satisfactory

[leaden turret]

that's the CDN link for fandom

[scenic mirage]

i mean its still a good resource, even if its from an old wiki

[leaden turret]

☝️

[scenic mirage]

is there a more recent version? or have fluids changed?

ye but when ppl asking about fluids and stuff in here im not gonna say go look in #math-and-meta pins 😭

[spring root]

i mean i never really asked about fluids

[leaden turret]

"plumbing manual linked in #math-and-meta pins" takes less effort than googling for the plumbing manual and finding the wrong link

[fervent sand]

ye but it's more work for the person you're helping

much better to find the pin yourself and link it

[warped holly]

anyways, I checked it, I wasn't expecting such document, I generally just plug things together and see if it works or not. Maybe I need that some day, thanks for the resource

[whole drum]

I just have it bookmarked so I can copy/paste it

[leaden turret]

#math-and-meta message

oh lookit that

[whole drum]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[leaden turret]

^up-to-date, non-trashfire link

[scenic mirage]

i have it open all the time

its the exact same bruh 😭 its just a different link

[leaden turret]

the proliferation of links to fandom and fandom CDNs positively impacts their SEO.

would rather not have fandom's SEO get a bump again.

[scenic mirage]

whats wrong w fandom

[glad quest]

SEO CDN ????? tf r those

[scenic mirage]

search engine optimization, content delivery network

[glad quest]

huh

[leaden turret]

elaborating on that point is #off-topic-general by this point

[scenic mirage]

seo is basically tags ppl put on their sites to boost their ranking in search engines. content delivery networks let you type in google.com instead of 142.250.31.101

[mint fossil]

I just tore down all of my iron derivative production and rebuilt some of it, I'm going to do my homework before I lose my entire afternoon to this game

[plain gate]

without ublock their ads take up half ur screen lmao

[leaden turret]

losing an afternoon is small potatoes 😛

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message
@serene cargo steam is trying to detect hour farming, they might have deducted hours from your count

[leaden turret]

that's wrong on both accounts

[mint fossil]

I have like 4 assignments that will take all afternoon not factoring in the time it will take to do an oil change on my car 🙃

[scenic mirage]

it took me like an hour and a half to get an impure, normal, and pure quartz node connected and transported like 300m 😭

[leaden turret]

300m is small potatoes

[scenic mirage]

its pretty much an eli5 tho

[plain gate]

thats DNS not CDN

[scenic mirage]

oh shit my b 😭 im hungover asf and tired

[leaden turret]

"computer go beep boop"

[visual cloud]

alguem 🇧🇷 ???????

[mint fossil]

Bro didn't pay attention in networks class

[plain gate]

cdn's work after the dns is resolved, basically data highway for the website

[scenic mirage]

cdns do smth w making sure everyone everywhere can access pics and vids and stuff

[glad quest]

so if im afk

they just finna delete my hours tf

[scenic mirage]

i didnt even take a networks class, it just what i remember from my intermediate java class

[visual cloud]

como acho alguem do brasil pra jogar comigoooooooooooooooo??????? 🙁 alguem 🇧🇷 ???????

[leaden turret]

☝️

[peak wasp]

yes

[leaden turret]

a: #1201555265942724758
b: english only server (outside of #1201555265942724758 one supposes)

[leaden turret]

inspired to meme, one moment

[peak wasp]

they're trying to delete those hours because you actually didn't play...

[glad quest]

but i may of needed hundres of an item i was only making 2pm off

[peak wasp]

I understand your frustration, but I think Satisfactory is not exempt from detection

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
edging blowing a fuse rn 😳

[leaden turret]

@peak wasp @glad quest #satisfactory-memes message

[glad quest]

lmfao i have hella beef with teh uk power industry

[leaden turret]

landlord: we can install solar but we aint gonna install power storage
satisfactory: we can install power storage but we aint gonna install solar

[scenic mirage]

solar and wind would be dope

[leaden turret]

there's mods for that

-# s.o.l. if you're on console tho

[glad quest]

I DETEST THE R&D MOD

[scenic mirage]

thank god im not on console 😆

pc >>>

[leaden turret]

blurb why or #off-topic-general if rant?

[glad quest]

nah i had to quit my sf+ playthrough cuz of it

thats all

[leaden turret]

This mod is currently in an Alpha state and will receive many changes in the future!

oh no, one mod broke another, how terrible

[glad quest]

no its just tedious and not worth the effort

[scenic mirage]

@sage viper whats that factory for

[whole drum]

Could be worse. Bethesda games require mods in order to function well.

[leaden turret]

imagine if CSS came along 10 years later and put out a next-gen update for Satisfactory, breaking all the mods right before someone releases Satisfactory: Jersey

[whole drum]

I hard passed on 76 and see no reason for hype on TES6

I only got the Oblivion Rm because it was more stable than the original version on my system

[peak wasp]

I haven't played an elder scroll since skyrim in 2013

[ornate saffron]

same, and it was a buggy mess on the ps3

[peak wasp]

I've played almost every major resident evil game asides 5 and 6 tho

[whole drum]

So it was a Bethesda game

[median rain]

Bro I just got fuel power and it's so much better than coal, the one problem thought is that you have to make sure the excess items dont overflow and stop the generators, but still each fuel generagor gives over 3 times the power of a coal generator

I set up just 5 of them and my capacity increased by like 2x

[whole drum]

Feed the non-fuel products into storage with a smart splitter that goes Overflow into a Sink

[void mason]

Today I was working around the electric fuel system to recycle the resin, damn me that I touched two cables and fucked up the entire power plant!!!

[whole drum]

Then you don't have to worry about it stopping

[median rain]

From one pure node you can get rubber, packaged fuel, and like 5 generators going

I really like the progression system in this game, it teaches you things one at a time

[nova igloo]

welp, finished the game. while it was kinda cool I was at least hoping to || leave the planet||

[median rain]

First It shows you how to automate veins and lower tier items, then items that need multiple things to craft, then liquids and pipelines, and then crafts that make a secondary item so you have to keep it moving so everything keeps working

[median rain]

You technically can send yourself to space with a hypertube cannon pointed up 🤷‍♂️

[nova igloo]

yeah I've stood on the cargo pod as it's taking off a few times

[median rain]

I'm pretty sure the top of the space elevator actually has collision so if you fling your dead body up there (cuz you die if you get too high) you can actually hit it

[nova igloo]

I remember someone posting pics of that

question is, what do I do now?

onto the next game I suppose

[rain spindle]

Man im kinda happy i dont have nuclear power yet

Cuz all of this for power plant fuel…

Wtf

[median rain]

New playthrough? Or just completely automate everything and make THE BIGGEST FACTORY IN THE UNIVERSE!!!!! or you could just play something else it's your choice

[median rain]

Yeah I'm probably gonna hold off nuclear power until I get plutonium or ficsonium

[honest sleet]

I HAVE TRAINSSSS

[scenic mirage]

someone hold me 🙁 i need 160 water extractors for nuclear

[hard ivy]

that's not that many

I had over 1k in my plant in U6

[scenic mirage]

im thinking of building in the lake in the southeast but idek if i can even fit that many there

so either a TON of pipes or move it away

[plain gate]

that's not bad

[hard ivy]

never move water for nuclear

[plain gate]

always build reactors over the ocean

[hard ivy]

build the plants right above or on water

[whole drum]

Oceans are probably easier

[plain gate]

no exceptions no it will not work in the desetrt never do that

[honest sleet]

pls don't tell me that's for one reactor

[plain gate]

no its 2 water: 1 reactor

[scenic mirage]

yeah its crazy, i plan on having 72 reactors too

[honest sleet]

oh phew

im fine then

[scenic mirage]

oh fml i didnt connect smth in modeler, i actually need ~300 extractors

[plain gate]

the max is like 200 extractores, lol not that bad, 630gw/6250mw=100*2

[scenic mirage]

you cant do extractors in blueprints right

[plain gate]

megaprint, save ur sanity lol

[whole drum]

No, but holding ctrl for grid snapping may help

[scenic mirage]

imma just do the foundation trick

[abstract heron]

WOW!

I DID IT!!!!!!!

[scenic mirage]

huh

[abstract heron]

4k hrs on my world

[whole drum]

How many actually played tho? 🤨

[abstract heron]

all 4k

I am thinking how to much steel i want to build

[whole drum]

I can't imagine what my world would look like with that much time of active play

[abstract heron]

i had 6800hr world once pre 1.0

[gentle lion]

So if you pause one coal generators they all just stop?

Or did soemthing else happen

Oh crap. When yoh uograde the mines does power stay connected

I didn't even pay attention to that lol

[mystic cradle]

does the christmas event start at 1st December ?

[red sun]

i think so yes

[leaden turret]

I don't recall if they fixed it, but at one point if you upgrade your miner and a conveyor lift was the first thing connected it'd break the belt node graph

[abstract heron]

Yes maybe a blog or 2 on how and what and maybe new calender and bug fixes maybe

[gentle lion]

Well I noticed for some reason 4 of them didn't even have coal lol

So I redid the manifold and loaded them manually and uograded belt to mk2/3

Now it's running correctly

[abstract heron]

Just thinking how muchs teel si gooder to make

[scenic mirage]

only make as much as you need

[abstract heron]

I am making factorys of factorys atm

[scenic mirage]

wdym

[abstract heron]

cause i need it to be more oringined etc etc

[scenic mirage]

what

[red sun]

yeah i'm with lazars

what

[whole drum]

How long have you been together?

[red sun]

two months <3

[scenic mirage]

???? what

where tf you hiding

[red sun]

that is to say i've been in lazars' walls for two months

i'm running out of food here, there's no insulation left

[abstract heron]

Making it more looking cooler 🙂

[silk ocean]

2976, no sobbing now

[scenic mirage]

i will sob if i want to! or even if i dont want to!

[gentle lion]

Woukd a truck station be an easier way to transport coal from 1k m away?

[glass pagoda]

Do you think spire coast will be a good spot to put my oil refinery

[silk ocean]

Trains

[glad quest]

no

[glass pagoda]

Guys I'm willing to bet your first factory was built next to the mountains with a lot of iron next to them in grassy feilds

[silk ocean]

Mountains xD

[glass pagoda]

Lol

Look close enough man

I dont get why yall don't like the swamp

[scenic mirage]

its just dangerous

[glass pagoda]

I mean sure it's not my favorite and I think it should be a bit smaller but like it's very cool

[glass pagoda]

True but people don't often say they hate red bamboo

[scenic mirage]

🤷‍♂️ iunno, i dont rlly like that area either but its not so bad. im at a phase now tho where all that isnt dangerous for me anymore

[glass pagoda]

The only reason I slightly dislike red bamboo is becuse of the plants that can only be destroyed via nuke

[scenic mirage]

those giant ass fart spiders 👎

[swift loom]

is charcoal alt recipe useless?

[sage viper]

aluminium 3k+3k

[hard ivy]

not completely, but yeah

[swift loom]

i just started and im struggling expanding my coal power production plant because there isnt any extra coal nodes nearby

[hard ivy]

then find coal. gathering wood by hand to burn for power completely defeats the entire purpose of coal power

[swift loom]

thank you for the redditor response 👍

[hard ivy]

I mean there isn't any better way than finding more coal. unless you can get better miners and/or belts without having more power

or overclocking the miners if you didn't do that yet

[cyan valve]

can someone enlighten me how much nuclear waste does 1 uranium fuel rod produce? i think its not written anywhere in the game?

[hard ivy]

50 per rod

[hasty cairn]

You can also get alternate recipes to turn wood or biomass into coal, but those require manual effort and can't be automated

[scenic mirage]

what train wreck are you talking about 😭

[hard ivy]

which is a complete waste of time, effort and a drive, because there's a fuckton of coal on the map

a lot of it right near water too

just pull cable back to base

location barely matters

[whole drum]

And you can use oil to make petro-coke as well--if you're really desperate

[scenic mirage]

yeah but you needa focus on finding stuff to convert so your power doesnt go out, you cant run around the map trying to find more coal nodes

[scenic mirage]

fuel >>

[silk ocean]

UPS 2976 is that

[scenic mirage]

huh

you keep bringing it up tho 😭

it has nothing to do with trains or satisfactory

[whole drum]

True. I didn't realize the person asking was still on coal and not merely in need of it.

16 coal gens is overkill for completing phase 2

[scenic mirage]

overkill is my middle name

[whole drum]

If you're still running out of power, you're overbuilding unnecessary things

[scenic mirage]

overbuilding and unnecessary are also my middle name

[winter fable]

Surprised we dont have hydro power

[scenic mirage]

theres geysers

[winter fable]

You can use em for power?

[whole drum]

Dams would probably be difficult to code right

[winter fable]

Steamturbines

[winter fable]

Wish it was real, hydrodam for alot of power would be huge

[gentle lion]

Getting ready to expand my coal generators adding 16 more just because.

[whole drum]

20k concrete, 10k steel, bunch of electronics and misc other parts...

I think if there were pre-determined place on the map that were suitable locations, they could be treated like a mini project part task

[winter fable]

Does vegetation grow back? Since you use that for biomass

[sullen gull]

no

[winter fable]

No wonder people say coal fast as possible

[sullen gull]

Can use animal remains if you must. But ideally you want to move on to some other type of power

[whole drum]

That's part of it, but mostly because you can't fully automate bio

[winter fable]

Thats good info

Definitely keeping that in mind for my first playthrough soon

[whole drum]

That said, until you do set up coal, there's more than enough sources of bio that you should never have to worry about it. It's just extra leg work.

[winter fable]

Those veins are infinite right? And impure was 1, normal 2 en pure 3?

[sullen gull]

yep

[winter fable]

I think it was per second/mine for the number part

[whole drum]

Not sure what you mean by 1/2/3

Each resource has a default output rate from the node (once you place a miner) that depends on the miner used. Impure gives half of this and Pure gives double.

[winter fable]

I saw a video where someone explained the pure:impure nodes and said something with impure produces less than normal/pure and i think it was said 1/s or something

But i could be wrong

Oh do thats what the purity does

[abstract heron]

I have so much iron and copper tto play with and plan

[winter fable]

Close but now i know lol, thanks, that will help alot for my first play

[whole drum]

Right. The early game has a lot to do with balancing your miner output, belt throughput, and machine processing speed.

[winter fable]

And later you deconstruct everything and untangle the spaghetti

[whole drum]

No

You just leave it and build elsewhere

No reason to lose the production unless the rest of the map is tapped out

[winter fable]

Oh i didnt even think of that

[whole drum]

Unlike Factorio, resource nodes don't dry up, so it's all about your production rates.

[leaden turret]

-# unlike factorio, game looks nice

[winter fable]

Factorio is just 2d satisfactory

[hard ivy]

it's really not

[fervent sand]

no

[winter fable]

It has its charm tho

[fervent sand]

and I feel qualified to say this having 2.7k hours in factorio and 600 in satisfactory

[winter fable]

Only 2.7k? /j

[open swallow]

my numbers are very close 😄

Factorio is a lot easier to sink thousands of hours into, I find

[whole drum]

I usually desribe it the other way, "Satisfactory is 3D Factorio where the wildlife doesn't harass you and the scenery is much more pleasant."

[fervent sand]

that steam has recorded, at least

[winter fable]

Wait so factorio is its own thing? Thought satisfactory was a bit like that

[fervent sand]

they're both they're own thing

they just both are automation games

[whole drum]

I love the verticality of SF tho

[hard ivy]

I love to completely ignore it

[winter fable]

In first person you feel the immersion

But that early 2000 look also has its charm

[whole drum]

Climb to the highest point and start laying foundation for your Infinite Skybase™

[open swallow]

Completely unrelated: I'm having a weird annoyance in-game. One day, I got tired of being in the wilderness, and made a quick hypertube launcher to get me back with some biomass burners. The problem? Now, every time I load a save, I get "One of your fuses has blown". The other problem? I don't know where I left that launcher. Any way out of this?

[fervent sand]

I have a PyABCMSPMTBIx100 run on a separate download of Factorio, as it requires an older version of Factorio. Didn't get that far though

[fervent sand]

if you want a great comparison go watch doshdoshington's videos on satisfactory

[compact flicker]

I built a hypertube cannon :3

The accelerator takes 1:13 to get through

[fervent sand]

To sum up the differences for me, Satisfactory is a lot more focused on aesthetics whereas Factorio is a lot more focused on automation

[whole drum]

SF is a lot more chill

[open swallow]

My feel of the differences is that everything is "smaller scale" in Satisfactory, in that one or two machines on a line can satisfy your needs, whereas in Factorio you're building dozens of machines at a time

[whole drum]

I like Factorio, but it's the harder one to sink hours into

[merry granite]

Wouldnt that be larger scale

The machines themselves are scaled bigger

[open swallow]

from a different perspective than mine, sure

[glad quest]

wait u guys dont do that??? my starter base has 24 smelters in lmfao

[whole drum]

SF is easier to organize, imo, because the verticality gives you a lot more options for logistical issues

[merry granite]

Yeah true actually

[whole drum]

Well, I've been up for 22+ hours. Time for some sleep.

[merry granite]

Yeah you were literally talking in this channel before i went to sleep

[whole drum]

lol

[merry granite]

And now ive woken up and ypur still here

[whole drum]

Played D2R most of the night, but also in channel here, and watching YT

Decided not to play Ladder this time around since my friends weren't, so playing Offline finally got my Sorc to Hell Act 3 for some Lower Kurast runs.

Got a few good drops last night, including my first Shako and an Um rune.

First for Offline, that is

[lyric hull]

what is the best rail network megaprint?

[whole drum]

Anyhow... 🫡

[fervent sand]

and I'm actually the opposite. Satisfactory is harder to sink hours into, and Factorio is easier to organize because of the top-down view

[hard ivy]

whatever you make

[reef basin]

none, best is to build your own rails

[candid marsh]

bro this stupid space giraffe keeps respawning on the top of one of my coal generators lol

good for him i'm getting rid of this gens

[solemn basin]

Maybe someone can help me, I'm a little confused. I only have two power plants, one powered by coal and one by fuel. All the machines are running, no stopping or anything, but my power still fluctuates between 21.997 MW and 22.370 MW.

[reef basin]

"my power" meaning what? production? consumption? capacity? max consumption?

[dense violet]

You can be either in SF?
Sf is just about dedicated production lines rather than building something that uses random inputs

[solemn basin]

production I mean the total output

[dense violet]

None. Build rail to where you need it instead of someone else’s

[reef basin]

all gens are full of water and coal?

[solemn basin]

Yes no stops and its only 400 Watt

[dense violet]

Go to #math-and-meta abd show an image of your power graph

1x coal + 1x fuel should be betting you 325 mw so there is definitely some misunderstanding here

[candid marsh]

do you have a buffer between your refineries and your fuel generators?

cause sometimes pipes are full, a refinery stops for a couple of seconds and suddenly makes something stop

[reef basin]

if yes, remove

[candid marsh]

oh really? it saves me a lot of headaches

[void mason]

I still don understand how signal work for the train

[reef basin]

yeah, they do nothing or hurt your setup

[hard ivy]

https://docs.ficsit.app/satisfactory-modding/latest/CommunityResources/TrainSignalGuide.html

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Train_Signals

[void mason]

Can someone help me?

Thx

[sullen gull]

#1038092680493801533

yw

[solemn basin]

No, but I've observed it for a while now; they all run at 100% without a break. But I'll add a buffer to see how it goes.

[candid marsh]

I wouldn't do that before finding the root of the problem

you can make it so much worse

I mean, you are producing like 22 GW with fuel right?

[fervent sand]

ye but sf has terrain and limited resources

and it's harder to spam assembly lines in sf

[solemn basin]

24GW with both coal and fuel

[dense violet]

Buffers either do nothing or cause issues - fluid systems often take time to stabilise so when you’re slapping mules pipes down and random buffers and you see it suddenly work? It wasn’t the buffer

[stray field]

Yo i need some help
Dm if u can help me
Greatly appreciated thanks

[dense violet]

‘Limited’ infinite resources for dedicated systems.

Also your computer will catch fire before you use it all

As for spamming assembly lines? Multiple floors.
It’s a logistics design and problem solving game. Using 3D space is easy

You could also be boring and create sky factories if you really wanted

[dense violet]

Please post an image of your power graph with what you mean in #math-and-meta

You seem to be contradicting yourself

Or make a #1038092680493801533 post

[silk ocean]

2976 , not cool

[fervent sand]

ok well let me know once you figure out how to place multiple buildings by holding your mouse down. Let me know when you figure out how to make a blueprint of a factory you've already built. Let me know once you've figured out how to make Satisfactory as efficient as Factorio.

[dense violet]

thats because factorio is basically a solved game while SF is more about create bespoke solutions for unique factories

ther'es no single path to produce items in any particular location in SF

there's no monsters at your door

[leaden turret]

can't be as efficient as factorio.

there's a whole extra dimension

[dense violet]

it's just 100% about creating problems and finding solutions to them

[leaden turret]

-# johnny

[fervent sand]

I mean like computer resource wise

[leaden turret]

see also

[dense violet]

no idea how it compares to fact on impact on computers, going to guess SF is a lot more heavy duty though

[leaden turret]

see previous statement, only with technobabble about topology

[fervent sand]

ye and Factorio is more about spamming up large factories. My point stands.

[dense violet]

just because you can repeat the same factory over and over doesn't mean it's more about automation\

that just means its more about boring automation and 1 click finish the game

[leaden turret]

I mean you can, it just takes effort 😛

[dense violet]

I mean... sure 😛

[leaden turret]

point seems to be "I are factorio fan[person]"

[dense violet]

if you jsut want to 1 click paste teh same factory over and over again - yes, this is not for you, because the whole point is 'create a problem, solve it'

like Marv said, you could just create the same problem over and over again and have a few blue prints that makes them in a few clicks

totally an option. But at that point why are you even playing SF?

[leaden turret]

or use scim megaprints

counter-point: "it's easier to optimise the fun out of factorio"

[fervent sand]

aesthetics, logistical problem solving, etc.

[ivory condor]

Kind of a mute point given both games have bps, and with things like auto connect of logistics between bps, satisfactory and factorio bp wise share quite a few similarities now

[leaden turret]

-# is satisfactory more about aesthetics because factorio is fugly?

[reef basin]

I like Factorio's style more than SF's style 🤷

[fervent sand]

no my point is that they're both quite different games. Factorio is about building huge factories mainly. Satisfactory is about aesthetics and problem solving with terrain

[ivory condor]

I would say there is some differences to be sure, like being able to copy what you already built, satisfactory doesnt have that feature, but overall bps, both games are quite similar

[fervent sand]

Factorio's aesthetics come from huge factories

[coral glacier]

Want more resources?
Use modded miners and belts!

( so called "downsides" may include broken transfer rates and item loss )

[dense violet]

more about design and logistics to dedicated systems - since you have permanent continuous parts instead of random resource drops

any case gl and maybe go play factorio

[leaden turret]

looks at me building in sky

what terrain?

[dense violet]

yeah never really saw much point to those. Kinda kills large parts of the game

[ivory condor]

style, what do you mean

[reef basin]

visuals

[coral glacier]

But Cobalt, here's the thing, i need more uranium

[ivory condor]

Oh visuals, factorio i love the style for sure, they pull off that very well indeed

[versed cosmos]

does headlift get divided across multiple pipes going up?

[dense violet]

no, they all get it

[ivory condor]

I would say visuals, factorio for a 2d is basically perfect for what it is

[versed cosmos]

epic ty

[fervent sand]

I love Factorio's visuals (I like a lot of older games), but Satisfactory allows for a lot more customization in the small things

[ivory condor]

Enjoy all your uranium

[coral glacier]

Learning engineering dynamics of real nuclear power plants, you see how weird the nuclear power plant model in satisfactory is.
Like why is the core in the cooling tower?!?! 🤣

[ivory condor]

Look we don't ask those questions around here, it just works, its future tech after all, anything can work

[silk ocean]

Not part of 2976 xD

[leaden turret]

ficsit does not waste

-# time building separate cooling infrastructure

[dense violet]

gotta be modular!

[ivory condor]

I mean we have a magic gun, they could easily make it work at that point

[fervent sand]

or you could look at it and say that the core is right next to the cooling tower

[coral glacier]

[leaden turret]

there's a mod for that

[dense violet]

I'm vaguely curious how Refined power has turned out, but they tweaked minor number changes several times during pre 1.0 breaking shit. Very annoying with no real impact other than to break systems

poor development

[coral glacier]

I've seen a mod that reduces the thing to strictly the conveyor input/output and water input.
I'm just going to assume the nuclear power plant is in a pocket dimension at this point 🤣

[dense violet]

that one surely is in any case

[ivory condor]

I would definitely

pocket dimensions in satisfactory is very much a thing, pioneer for example uses it

[glad quest]

esp with the larger inv mod

[coral glacier]

I was going to build my power plant around that design, but then i remembered i wanted to make it vanilla friendly for when i build it on my friends server.

[glad quest]

its rubbish

it used to be sooo much better

[dense violet]

how did it get worse?

[ivory condor]

refined power, cant say i used it much, i just took a look at the over powered wind power in that mod and realized how unbalanced it all was

I dont know if it got better and wind power isnt so game breaking but im just going to assume it still is

[glad quest]

their burners and steam thingies dont feel as fun good

[dense violet]

they don't work the same wayt ? burner boiler steam release thingy?

[glad quest]

they work the same they just feel worst than normal coal power

[ivory condor]

What about wind power, its still game breaking right

[swift loom]

are hypertubes good for long distance travel ?

[dense violet]

very useful, yes

[glad quest]

limit on how many u can have

[dense violet]

can set up automatic travel, get a drink while you travel

[glad quest]

plus i believe they made them worst when nearby to each other

[dense violet]

that seems odd

[swift loom]

okay thank you

[ivory condor]

so finally put in some balance to them, interesting, thats good, wind power was to strong because in the past there wasn't any limit to how many you could place

[dense violet]

oh do you mean the renewables? that makes sense

[glad quest]

yh

used to cap at 10mw now it goes to less

[dense violet]

I never used them as ... it kinda fully broke what little power balance there was.

[ivory condor]

needless to say refined powers wind power was very strong indeed, it really was in need of some kind of balance, because it made normal power games power progress pointless

[feral geyser]

Refined Power is meh

[ivory condor]

but its mods, still that was way to strong, even for a mod

[feral geyser]

I used it pretty much exclusively for the dams

[ivory condor]

basically i dont like things that simplify power generation that much

[feral geyser]

But even then, i removed it

[ivory condor]

but its suppose to be a effort vs reward, not spam wind power turbines and enjoy all of that power with very little effort beyond that

[glad quest]

u know the waterfall in the grasslands the big one no longer has about 50 dams

[ivory condor]

probably a good thing also

[feral geyser]

I no longer have the mod, so 🤷‍♂️

[ivory condor]

50 dams was a bit much for that waterfall imo anyways

[feral geyser]

Tbh I haven't even really played in a good month or two

[glad quest]

ive come back after about a year

[stable tulip]

Good to know. So that may be why my hours change from 786 before launching to 1000ish after starting the game.

[glad quest]

is there a way to play satisfactory map before they added the bit to the N of the map

but still have stuff like converters

[dense violet]

I suppose you could

1. load up old beta
2. create mods for old version of the game and try to import buildings and recipes
3. cry at the amount of time you've spent on this for no good reason

[glad quest]

its broken a bunch of my saves as there is miners on nodes that dont exist anymore

and factories engulfed in terrain

[wicked nacelle]

t’s a great excuse to just start over right?

[glad quest]

ig but i rlly liked that save 🙁

[ivory condor]

to be expected to play on a older map, cant really work around that

[glad quest]

my entire bauxite build is inside a cliff now

[ivory condor]

But i have most major versions backed up, u1,u2,u3,u4, etc, its fun to play the older version of the game sometimes

[glad quest]

looked better imo aswell

tho maybe its cuz im getting used to photo realism in games

[ivory condor]

just long as you try not to migrate newer saves, as that can lead to issues, as the ones you mentioned

[glad quest]

ig i could always install a node builder and place the nodes back

but thats cheating

[hexed badge]

Any way to unpotato the screenshot quality in photo mode? I'm playing on 1440p and the screenshots are coming out at 2048x1152, and look worse than they should at that resolution.

[ivory condor]

Just look at it as map editing, this is fine well as long as you get rid of the node your moving or put a sign to not use, as that would be cheating via giving more resources than the map normally has

but either ways, i would view it as fine, as long as your trying to move the node in some way and not outright cheating, like giving yourself multiple resources nodes, etc as that would start to get dirty cheating wise

Like my cheating saves, where I copy miners and place them anywhere, duplicating resources, that starts to get really dirty indeed

[glad quest]

true true

[unborn nova]

could i get some help in #1038092680493801533

[pine adder]

Is satisfactory crossplay?

[white dawn]

PC players can crossplay with PC players (regardless of Steam/Epic), and Console players are supposed to be able to crossplay with other console players (regardless of PS/Xbox, though there may be some bugs with that at the moment). No console-to-PC crossplay though

[pine adder]

damn, do we know if pc to console crossplay is coming anytime soon?

[ivory condor]

it might happen, devs have mentioned it isnt off the tables all together i think, just not a thing yet

they probably want to get cross console stable first though

and mp on console as that still has some issues i think

[white dawn]

I wouldn't hold my breath in the near-term. :)

[ivory condor]

yeah i wouldnt either, there are more issues they probably need to sort for pc to console crossplay to be stable

nvm trying to load up mega factory saves on console, which probably wont be a great time

[unkempt blade]

I heard it's coming when they add Switch support

[wicked nacelle]

Are they adding switch support?

Or is that a “never” joke. I’d be shocked if it could run on switch

[white dawn]

Yeah, it's a "never" joke; not a great one to make since people might not know

Better to just be clear about that kind of stuff; easy for folks to misinterpret that

[unkempt blade]

sorry I'll stick to factory cart memes

[gentle lion]

Wondering why my steel beams were going so slow Imto storage...looks around...what's this constructor doing...ooooooh I split them into storage and into another for the encased beams...🤦‍♂️

So pausing that for a bit lol

Are signs worth getting out of the awesome shop?

[wicked nacelle]

Every build thing you can unlock in the shop is a reasonable number of coupons. No reason to not just get them all

Every build gun recipe unlock I mean

[unkempt blade]

I like signs. Especially the really big ones I can see easily with my old man eyes

[gentle lion]

I really need to sink more stuff but I don't really have overflow or I'm just dumb

[gentle lion]

And you also know what's what and wonder why you aren't getting enough of your stuff lol

[unkempt blade]

You should automate some extra stuff just to sink it. It's a fun diversion

[gentle lion]

I wear trifocals ..😉

[wicked nacelle]

Creature dna gives a lot of points especially double slooped

[gentle lion]

I think I have spare copper just making bookoo rolled sheets lol I coukd sink that

[unkempt blade]

yeah if you're not using it up while building it's just sitting there doing nothing anyway

[wicked nacelle]

Unless the source I gots are manifolds to other copper things. Then it can stop you from reaching equilibrium

[gentle lion]

I have a full copper setup at my second factory doing sheets wire etc ps this is redundant

[unkempt blade]

if you've got some free power uranium and SAM ore just straight from the miner isn't too bad for coupons early game

[gentle lion]

Uhhh

I don't think I ça get thag yet

[unkempt blade]

or the T1 crystal stuff is pretty low effort and you don't need tons of it early on

[scenic mirage]

I was sinking like 2400 nuclear pasta/min earlier and I hit like 500m points a minute or smth

I had an industrial storage and it filled

[sleek kettle]

Where do I unlock the gas filters?

[sharp basin]

Just realizing MAM’s game changer.

[fervent sand]

in the MAM, mycelium tree

[sleek kettle]

Perfect, thanks didn’t even think to check there. 👍🏻

[sharp basin]

Just unlocked the Explorer and I think I’m gonna LOVE it but my best fuel for now is solid biofuel

I guess that’s a shitty fuel?

[wicked nacelle]

coal?

[sleek kettle]

Tell you what getting that Bauxite isn’t half fun, then turning it into aluminium is even more fun! 🤣

[sharp basin]

Coal’s better?

[wicked nacelle]

coal just shows up -- that's all the "better" I need

[sleek kettle]

I had coal power first then moved onto the orange fuel from oil - not sure which is better but sure you get more power from turning the oil into fuel

[dense violet]

coal can be automated - but burns faster than solid I think?

[native frost]

Oily merica

[solid idol]

I’m keeping my coal plants until I have a shit ton of fuel plants and even then I might keep them around Ngl

[wicked nacelle]

unless you want to use the coal for something else there's no reason to tear them down -- and if you do want the coal for anything else no reason not to tear them down

[solid idol]

Yeah and right now I have plenty of coal for steel

[sleek kettle]

Yeh I have both running just not adding to coal anymore if I need more power will be fuel plants

[native frost]

I got rig of my coal plants asap cuz i wanted to use the coal some where else i think oil is a abundant reasource if used correctly

[wicked nacelle]

yeah for sure you can get all the power you need for the game just from fuel-based power

[native frost]

Yeah its pretty sick im looking forward to getting my system up dated it looks like ill make 30G of power

And ill use like 1/3 less oil

[whole fable]

Its always crazy to me how big of a factory you have to build for a whopping 6 HMF per minute 🤣

[wicked nacelle]

it's super easy to blueprint though. Not the whole thing but each subsection and then you can scale it trivially by just plopping down more copies

[dense violet]

theres a lot of recipes that compress it

with a few alts you can cut your iron use by like 75% iirc

[unkempt blade]

yeah but what's the most iron you can use?

[whole fable]

I used steel screws, wet concrete, encased steel pipes, and steel frames. Was decent

[ocean frost]

The alt cuts down that size by half

[quick hound]

POV I’m making BWDs without aluminum factory

[unkempt blade]

@reef basin is there a way I can get your magic tools to give me the least efficient solution automagically?

[whole fable]

Worst part is between my son and I we hand crafted the 200 needed for bauxite and hovercraft and now I made HMF build but need Aluminum

[quick hound]

Respect

[ocean frost]

Just keep disabling the recipes it spits out

[sharp basin]

I might turn the enemies back to hostile now that i have the REBAR GUN 🔫

[quick hound]

If you want least efficient, use multiple splitters leading to sinks, and with a small remaining going to storage or whatever

[ocean frost]

Have you tried the crafting bench

[sharp basin]

Is there a Mercer Spheres detector?

[ocean frost]

It's the normal detector

[wicked nacelle]

it's a setting in object scanner

[sharp basin]

The different Nobelisks do what? Are they necessary to do some stuff?

[unkempt blade]

Yeah that's why I was asking about automagic. I could do that but maybe there's some option I didn't notice 😆

[wicked nacelle]

!wikisearch nobelisk

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=nobelisk

[sharp basin]

Yeah they all seem a little pointless to me

[wicked nacelle]

the most important thing they do is blow up rocks and they're mostly the same for that

[sharp basin]

Yeah that’s the point, normal Nobelisks do just that

[quick hound]

And blow up foliage for building

[wicked nacelle]

and blow up ducks for fun 😄

but don't let the duck police catch you

[whole fable]

My son is interested in using the gas nobelisk, is it any good for killing enemies?

[wicked nacelle]

try it and see how you like it 🙂

[sonic verge]

man i hope they keep adding more stuff to this game. its a masterpiece the way it is though

[sharp basin]

Is there like a MK2 rebar gun?

[whole fable]

Met my first rad boar earlier, he ran down my ramp and I dismantled a piece to strand him while I grabbed the hard drive 🤣

[wicked nacelle]

rifle is the upgrade but it's not a "mk2" it's just different but mostly better for combat

[whole fable]

Also fancier rebar types

[wicked nacelle]

yeah fancier rebar ammo

[quick hound]

I like it because it looks like it could guve me tetanus, also how are you Xan?

[sharp basin]

Yeah explosive rebars seems cool

[unkempt blade]

and then you slowly realize all you ever really needed was the basher and it makes you feel like a super cool jedi jetpacking around and smacking stuff

[merry granite]

Ive just started working on my first aluminum factory and oh my god; it takes an unprecedented amount of resources and processing

[wicked nacelle]

one of my challenges this playthrough is no ranged weapons (also no nobes, no trains)

[ocean frost]

How so

[clever lagoon]

what is next for satisfactory

[ocean frost]

Coke, water and bauxite

[wicked nacelle]

or just coal

[hasty fable]

Just thwack it till it stops moving

[merry granite]

you need refineries, foundries, assemblers all for one thing

[unkempt blade]

as long as you're willing to hork down food and/or inhalers for tougher enemies melee really isn't bad

[merry granite]

i thought you needed quartz too but I figured out now you dont

[wicked nacelle]

or just avoid 🙂

[clever lagoon]

it gets way worse when u have to start automating heavy modular frames
complexity grows exponentially

[sharp basin]

Protein/vitamin/therapeutic inhalers are in fact the same item?

[merry granite]

ive already done that lol

[wicked nacelle]

yes diff recipes same item -- instant full health

[ocean frost]

I think you just need more alts

[merry granite]

I guess i just expected alclad aluminum sheets to just be a few smelters and constructors and bam

[ocean frost]

Little bit of copper on top

[sharp basin]

Problem is I don’t kill creatures

[quick hound]

their flesh is tasty

[ocean frost]

You don't need a huge amount of alclad

[sharp basin]

I just might now that I have the rebar gun

[unkempt blade]

just gotta kick it up a notch then BAM you have aluminum products

[ocean frost]

Time for blueprints

[quick hound]

I still don’t have literally any aluminum factories, yet I’m almost done phase 5

[ocean frost]

2 refineries and some smelters

[sharp basin]

I need MORE doggos their items are CRAZY good

Just 3 for now

[ocean frost]

You can squeeze them into a blueprint

[merry granite]

time to use satisfactory planner

[sharp basin]

Doggy-boy, Doggy-bag and Doggy-bro

[unkempt blade]

in that case you need to kick it up a notch and research trains (BAM!)

[quick hound]

I HAVE TRAINS, DRONES AND WHATNOT. I’m just dedicated to not making an aluminum farm until after I finish phase 5

so it’s just coupons for me

[random garnet]

Ngl I’m so happy I decided to continue with my project of transporting Bulk crude to a differnt location for power for more space this has turned out perfectly well

[unkempt blade]

but how are you making aluminum screws without aluminum to turn into rods and/or beams?

[quick hound]

what screws?

[unkempt blade]

How are you transporting it?

[random garnet]

Train

[unkempt blade]

good choice!

[random garnet]

My trains moving between 240-280 ish crude x3 per minute

[quick hound]

.

[ocean frost]

Do you have 3 stations of crude or something

[random garnet]

No just one train station

[ocean frost]

How are you getting it to deliver 3 times per minute

[random garnet]

X3 is Becouse of its freight cars it has 3 fluid freight cars

[ocean frost]

What is a fluid 3 car

[random garnet]

I noticed the freight platforms don’t like connect and show the income all together they show their own individual incomes

[sharp basin]

No way to get inhalers with ingredients you don’t find in the overworld?

[white dawn]

Correct; any of the recipes will require manual resource gathering

(and unfortunately none of them show up as recipes that can be applied to machines)

[merry granite]

satisfactory planner is suggesting me to receive quartz for my aluminum factory but i just want to use the silica produced from the aluminum, how can i modify the planner to not receive quartz?

[white dawn]

You need to supply extra quartz, otherwise the system will stall out. The silica produced as a byproduct isn't enough to power the whole chain

[merry granite]

damn really? that sucks

[white dawn]

I mean, it's just game balance, eh? :)

If you find the Pure Aluminum recipe you can do without the Silica requirement altogether, at the cost of bauxite efficiency

[merry granite]

now its coal, quartz, copper, water, and bauxite 🙃

itd be easier to make a real life factory at this point

it sounds like im complaining that the game is making me innovate im not its cool

[random garnet]

Man trying to figure out where to put my storage hub is proving annoying

[white dawn]

Heh, read up at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer_process and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall–Héroult_process and then see how you feel about that. :D

[unkempt blade]

inside the hole over the void in the middle of the map

[random garnet]

The what

[dense violet]

for bauxite?

[noble topaz]

im on phase 4, how the hell do i still not know how WATER goes up

[dense violet]

pumps

[unkempt blade]

evaporation

[random garnet]

I keep seeing screenshots of people making their pipes go sloped down into the machines??? Instead of just level and straight into them why is this?

[noble topaz]

oh no duh, but like its a pain to get water to go up, the issue of head lift

[unkempt blade]

because it's pretty

[noble topaz]

some times the water heads to the end of a pipe full, then it goes empty

[dense violet]

you want pipes at least level to the input slots - sometimes it seems you get benefits from feeding form above? not needed though

[random garnet]

It don’t look pretty

[unkempt blade]

then build it how you feel is prettiest 😄

[dense violet]

just don't feed from below

[random garnet]

The ONLY factory I have feeding from below is a copper factory using water to make steamed copper sheets. But I have pumps to force the water up anyway

[dense violet]

it's not really a question of pumps pushing it up. But fresh water systems are more stable generally

[quick hound]

MUAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA! I am almost close enough to finish phase 5 WITH NO ALUMINUM FACTORY!

[unkempt blade]

aluminimum

[quick hound]

Aluminininininininiinininiininininininininininiium

[sharp basin]

Stupid question but I don’t understand Equipment Shortcuts above the invent

How do you access them?

[quick hound]

I don’t understand much of anything :>

[quick hound]

Also my completely train powered oil to rocket fuel refinery is almost finished by the way! :>

What about your completely factory cart factory?

[unkempt blade]

I got confused and went outside instead. It was nice weather today

if only this game was on the Switch then I could have done both

[quick hound]

Remember, 1 building to truck station.

Like miner to truck station, truck station to smelter to truck station, etc.

Every single step requires a truck station to and from it

[quick hound]

My completely train factory is MASSIVE haha

[loud flax]

Boop

[quick hound]

aaAAAAAH! I HAVE BEEN BOOPED!

[fervent sand]

poob

[quick hound]

that is a not nice word >:(

[random garnet]

I’m starting to realise my life would’ve been easier building in the big flat desert

Pretty much everything seems to be able to be made relatively easily up there

[dense violet]

build multiple floors - everythign is flat then

[quick hound]

my man, I’m almost done phase 5 without an aluminum factory. I think my life is pure hell compared to yours.

[dense violet]

3D game remember?

[quick hound]

I thought it was a 2d sidescroller

[fervent sand]

Me building in the titan forest

[dense violet]

multiple floors , still flat

[random garnet]

Ima still stick with my plan for having lots of factory’s making the differnt things I need outputting them tis hub/other factory’s that need the certain resource output of other factory’s

[dense violet]

you just have other towers next to you

[fervent sand]

*above me

[random garnet]

Even if the trains take to long to get to another factory making production pause every now and again while it waits for resources I don’t really care

[quick hound]

yo stealthy, want some of this yummy nuclear pasta spaghetti I’ve made?

[fervent sand]

Or, rather, all around me: #design-and-architecture message

[dense violet]

'beside' wasn't exclusive to also above

[random garnet]

I don’t like radiation

[fervent sand]

true

[quick hound]

it’s not irradiated.. atleast my Geiger counter doesn’t go off

[random garnet]

I accidentally mined a chunk of it and now have a perma death box with radioactive stuff in it on my map I can’t get rid of…

I love how long I spent building these roads just for them to be made obsolete decently fast by trains lol

[fervent sand]

wait till you get a hazmat suit

[quick hound]

I ate a Geiger counter before so now I always have one with me

[fervent sand]

then get rid of it

[dense violet]

trucks are best used when you don't need to buidl roads 🙂 that's what trains are for

[random garnet]

Ima keep my roads as they look nice connecting my starting area up more, plus I may just for looks have some trucks driving between factory’s or locations aimlessly

[ocean frost]

Trucks would be so good if you didn't have to drive them

[random garnet]

I mean you don’t really have to just set up auto stuff and leave them to it

[ocean frost]

I more so meant driving the loop

[random garnet]

I kindaaaa wish you used trucks longer before trains. Like yeah the little tractor you use for ages before trains but the trucks I unlocked them used it for five minutes then had trains unlocked

Felt so pointless to unlock the truck

[quick hound]

What do you guys think of my perfect train track?

[ocean frost]

It depends on your needs

[random garnet]

Wtf

I was about to say I disliked how you just built them on the ground no like supports or anything but then I saw whatever just occurred in that video lol

[ocean frost]

Where is it

[clever lagoon]

is there a spot on the map where theres sulfur and coal close

[quick hound]

It’s perfection, isn’t it

[ocean frost]

You can use scim website to have a look

[random garnet]

I’ve been struggling to find a decent way to make circuit boards for ages but just realised there is a recipe for copper sheets and silica which can be found in one place together

[quick hound]

you must eat my nuclear pasta spaghetti

this shit slaps

[hasty cairn]

Near desert has this, go west till you hit an oasis. There are like 4 coal nodes and a sulfur node between them.

[median rain]

Why is there a thing in settings to enable crossplay if you cant even have crossplay

[dense violet]

not many. Maybe like 2?

[sullen gull]

You can between steam and epic on PC as I recall

[median rain]

How does that even count bro😭

[clever lagoon]

what is the best fuel in the game?

[dense violet]

best for what?

best regarding which resource?

[clever lagoon]

like for jetpack

[dense violet]

!wikisearch jet_pack

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=jet_pack

[dense violet]

look at the info, evaluate what you like - there's preferences

[quick hound]

I FUCKING DID IT. I completed phase 5 with NO Aluminum factory!

[median rain]

I got my first train track going 🙂

[quick hound]

I can’t tell if I’m happy or crying internally because I had to gather so many freaking coupons

[icy jetty]

the coupons should just be tied right into your player profile when you hit print, i don't get why we have to store them in a chest or carry them around like a physical item in a modern age

[hearty moth]

anyon else havng issues with conveyor lift mergers just not working when you have multiple conveyor floor holes connected?

[quick hound]

how do I use the portals??

damn it I’m gonna need to make a singularity cell farm arent I?

[ocean frost]

Press alt + F4

[quick hound]

I’m on ps5

[ocean frost]

My condolences

[candid marsh]

sell the ps5, get a pc, install satisfactory, launch it... press alt + F4

[quick hound]

😭

[candid marsh]

no honestly I still dont have em, so i cant help you

[merry granite]

How do i think with portals?

[leaden turret]

use portato

!wikisearch portal

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=portal

[icy jetty]

just discovered: parachute has more E to interact range on storage than just walking up to them does.

[glass pagoda]

How do I put heavy oil residue in my inventory

[quick hound]

Packagers!

[glass pagoda]

Huh

[quick hound]

You must use packagers

[glass pagoda]

What are those

Is it a mechi

[quick hound]

Feed them with empty canisters and liquid and it’ll package them for other use

[glass pagoda]

Is it unlocked in teir

5

[quick hound]

Yes!

[glass pagoda]

Huh

How

[quick hound]

I think.. I think a bit to check

[dense violet]

!wikisearch heavy oil residue

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=heavy+oil+residue

[dense violet]

look at the wiki it shows all available recipes with an item

[quick hound]

Tier 5, fluid packaging.

[glass pagoda]

How will I research it in the mam

[dense violet]

hub

[quick hound]

hub

[dense violet]

pls just look at your milestones, one of them will show packager

[ocean frost]

I don't think I've ever seen packaged HOR

[candid marsh]

it's a thing aparently

[random garnet]

I just realised the train stations and lines kinda eliminate the need for the big long distance power towers

[ocean frost]

Power towers came after rails

[candid marsh]

they do, but power towers are an easy and cheap way to fast travel

[ocean frost]

I call them Zipline towers

[random garnet]

I guess cheap yeah plus you unlock them before trains so easy first way to get around

But after trains just use a train to get around

[silk ocean]

Upside Down xD

[candid marsh]

does anybody uses trucks?

[random garnet]

If I need to get to a factory on the other side of the map I can just plop a train down and set it to auto go to where I need to go hope in and go downstairs grab food while o transport lol

[random garnet]

I REALLY tried and wanted to but god they are awkward

[dense violet]

sure, you just have to plan your factory locations and build around the idea of trucks

most people don't like planning that much though

[candid marsh]

yeah like, I've tryied a lot of times to set them up properly, but they always get bugged at some point

[dense violet]

just gotta make sure there aren't any head on collisions. Bout it

[random garnet]

Their turn radius upsets me

[dense violet]

take turns more slowly

[random garnet]

I did, I even set my roads up AHEAD of time with them in mind but the ai struggles to drive them properly even if I did turns slow and smooth they still struggled

Plus I unlocked trains like not even half an hour after trucks

[candid marsh]

I dont know... I feel Im just using belts this time

dont really want to set up a train

[quick hound]

as celebration I’m huffing a shit ton of inhalers (I’m up to 200 inhailers used now

[random garnet]

I personally feel trains are so incredibly worth it and nice to just have. Like yeah they can be a pain to set up but personally I find it so nice to just see my work once it’s done and see trains constantly moving around transporting stuff, it makes my game feel more alive

[candid marsh]

dont get me wrong, they are extremely useful

I just dont know if I want to spend that much time

[random garnet]

Tbh wouldn’t setting up a train line be the same amount of time as a conveyor?

[quick hound]

You’re playing satisfactory. You’re going to spent approx 400 hours on small shit that doesn’t even work

[candid marsh]

319.7 and counting lol

But I end up quitting before reaching the end game

[quick hound]

I got it day 1 of console release

[random garnet]

I’m on ps5 and have little over 100 hours so far

[quick hound]

I’m up to 200 hours

[random garnet]

I got it day 1 console release aswell, but I work night shifts so I don’t get much time to play when working

[candid marsh]

honestly... I pirated it, played it just 1 day and said: ok I don't want to lose my progress here

[quick hound]

!wikisearch rocket fuel

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=rocket+fuel

[ocean frost]

I find trucks work best if you have a loop that looks like a circle and the trucks go clockwise. Or you have separations between the lanes.

There are some mods that help with the node placement.

The current implementation feels like it was developed 6 years ago and hasn't been updated since.

[random garnet]

I don’t even know what fuel ima use till nuclear lol, part of me just can’t be bothered to go further than turbo

[candid marsh]

I mean, my problem with trucks is I try to set up multiple stations in an samll area. so they start loading and unloading in the wrong station, no matter how many times I try to make them work

sometimes i feel i should make some kind of tunnels for them but meh... long live noodles

[ocean frost]

You need to space the stations out sadly

[random garnet]

My issue with trucks is you also gotta plan out so they won’t hit each other lol

[ocean frost]

Maybe if enough is put in a bug report they will fix it

[dense violet]

same with trains, you just lay out specific tracks

[random garnet]

What’s the same with trains?

[ocean frost]

Trains you can fix with signals

Trucks you can't

[dense violet]

you build paths so they don't hit each other

[random garnet]

Oh yeah trains are mad good with signals. Granted I’m stoopid and don’t understand the path signals yet… but gonna be so good when I finally get it set up

[dense violet]

rails too close? blocks clip

[hasty cairn]

Trucks are easy enough to work with as far as not hitting. I find it easy (and aesthetically pleasing) to lay out asphalt-tiled foundations, with lines through the middle of the road. Trucks only use one 'lane' going either direction, so there are no collisions.

[icy jetty]

disabled machines need to have their own status color.

rainbow maybe?

[hasty cairn]

Is it possible to do this with signs? Link them to the structure and display a given message when the machine is on or off?

[random garnet]

Why would you need to know if a machine is out of resources? Compared to if the machine is just backed up either way you can see a light showing the problem and go look

[icy jetty]

would actually be kinda cool

[hasty cairn]

Let's say I want to make a "control center" kind of thing with signs that display given values/messages according to signals given by machines. Like the air traffic control tower at an airport. Partly flavor, partly a big monitoring system for my conveyor throughput and so on.

[icy jetty]

it's just weird, having something that's intentionally done, having no visual idicator unless you're looking inside the machine

[hasty cairn]

I haven't yet found a 'circuit network' or at least wireless input/output signals framework

[ocean frost]

Not in the game

[ivory condor]

yeah...the game supports nothing like this but interesting idea

[ocean frost]

It was developed before it was a big feature in factorio

[hasty cairn]

I loved that so much about Oxygen Not Included 🙁 doing all the automation, the signals, the ability to make indicators and all that

[random garnet]

I’ve never really experienced a machine that’s run out of resources considering all of the base resources just get pumped out instantly. The only time a machine would be kinda out of resources I guess is when it’s waiting a few seconds for a differnt resource to be made

[ivory condor]

yeah factorio has that logic but not this game

[icy jetty]

it would also be nice if clicking into a machine, would show you the uptime in the last minute, or 10 minutes. anything other than "only right now"

[random garnet]

I guess it would be kind of cool though being able to set up monitored that can show the info on your differnt factory’s saving you from going to them in person though

[hasty cairn]

Other question, is it still viable to make a "main bus" network in this game like in Factorio? I am used to that, but it seems it might be more complex to work with here

[ocean frost]

Factorio has had so many new features added to it over time

[hasty cairn]

SSSHHHHHHPPPAAEEEAAEEEEZZZZZZZZZ

[ocean frost]

There is a guy on YouTube that did it, nilus or something.

[random garnet]

Tbh I wish there was more decor items lol.

Like furniture or something so I could design myself a little chill room

[stone python]

close! Nilaus. he has a large playlist showwing how he did the bus, and talks about the positives and negatives of it

[random garnet]

I planned to build a large tower with an elevator that the top floor is just my crib so I can overlook my factory but then I realised there’s no actual decor

[icy jetty]

i suppse there is an indicator in the machine but i have no idea what time frame it's set to

and it's proobaly popwer not uptime

[stone python]

if you are on PC, and dont mind mods, there are some decor mods

[random garnet]

I’m on ps5

[hasty cairn]

The bus is meant to secure massive throughput and delivery of all base materials. Its biggest issue was how to keep re-balancing the belts as you take resources off, and add new ones in to replace

[random garnet]

I can’t decide which way to extend my storage hub…

[hasty cairn]

But since Satisfactory works in all dimensions, and you can run belts under and over, that simplifies matters greatly. Factorio already had underground belts, and most balancers relied on those already.

[merry granite]

I have a train system where it uses the same freight (2nd freight), on the same train, pick up coal -> drop off coal -> pick up water -> drop off water, problem is, theres excess water and now the train has water all the time and cant pick up coal. Is there a better solution for this than to just split them into separate freights?

[frail sleet]

no

[merry granite]

ok, thanks

another freight it is

[ivory condor]

So many features indeed, combine with space age dlc its a feature rich game indeed

[hasty cairn]

If you have the alternate recipe for it (from a hard drive) you can use the excess water to make (wet) concrete or (steamed) copper sheets

Use a priority merger to ensure what you want to get the water gets it first, the overflow feeds a refinery to make those things

[fickle oriole]

is there a good way to see/debug my train signals at a high level? Especially without the hover pack?

[dense violet]

photomode

[fickle oriole]

that lets me take a screen shot, how does it show signals? Is that a mode in it?

[ivory condor]

Drones in factorio are pretty powerful to and have infinite speed research, meaning there are no limits to how fast logistic drones can become and you can get spicy throughput with them

I don't know if this game would benefit from a factorio style drone that can essentially be given close to infinite speed, but it would be pretty cool to see regardless😃

[wicked nacelle]

You can go around and look like you’re flying. It lets you “hoverpack” without a hoverpack you just can’t build

[sonic verge]

I spent so much time on these raised pipe pillars just to find out theres not enough pressure to get the residual oil to a refinery from 2 fluid buffers. 😪

[hasty cairn]

Ugh. I hate using drones for all my logistics, though, it just feels wrong. I prefer belts

[sudden flint]

alright.... most of phase 2 milestones complete, mark three belts, mark 2 miners, but not much infrastructure yet. I'm told that about thi point in the game is when you really set up something more permanent?

[fickle oriole]

in a perfect world, i'd just like to see a graph representing the rail network, with arcs for the rails, nodes for block and path signals. anything like that?

[wicked nacelle]

If you want. I don’t consider anything permanent until I get a hoverpack

Until then I hand feed slooped buildings for elevator parts

[sudden flint]

Another question: where does one put their HUB in a modular factory type world?

[wicked nacelle]

What are you trying to “debug”? This doesn’t sound anything at all like how I deal with rail issues.

[ivory condor]

my main reason is beacons and speed modules in factorio, you can have input and output that goes so fast belts cant keep up, this is where logistic drones come into play

[wicked nacelle]

I never move it from my spawn point. Hypertube canons will get you anywhere you need to go in 30 seconds so it doesn’t matter

[fickle oriole]

when i get those error messages about a bad block or path signal ("loops into itself", "has conflicting entry points", etc.) it can be head-scratching to me to figure it out.

[ivory condor]

but logistic drones for keeping up with hyper fast buildings, especially legendary buildings, speed modules and beacons becomes more of a late game problem

[fickle oriole]

@sudden flint +1 to what Xaxxon says

[quick hound]

xannon might be a duck racist, but he is pretty smart

[wicked nacelle]

By the time portals come around hub is almost useless but you could make a portal hub at your hub

[quick hound]

how you doing xan?

[wicked nacelle]

When I was a young girl a duck killed my grandpappy. I’ve harbored a grudge ever since.

2 lies and a truth 🙂

[quick hound]

you’re a girl?

[wicked nacelle]

See here

[quick hound]

man I’m too tired for this shit

He/she, his/him, they/them, screw the pronounce cause everyones a dumb fuck these days

[hasty fable]

You were never young, you were born your exact age and you haven't aged since

[wicked nacelle]

I can’t prove you wrong.

[ocean frost]

I was relieved that it wasn't the other icebreaker game

[sudden flint]

Okay, that makes sense....

[wicked nacelle]

I’m doing a no trains run and vehicles are making me so sad. I’m probably going to end up doing mixed item trucks and an overflow sink places but I hate having to manually change ratios of production to match consumption. But not as much as I would hate running stacked roads everywhere for every truck

[quick hound]

How about you use factory carts?

[wicked nacelle]

Not you too. But I guess at least it would be narrow lanes.

[ocean frost]

They need a mini truck stop for the factory cart

[quick hound]

@unkempt blade I summon thee

[sudden flint]

what production lines do you guys set up? or do you not set up much until stuff it set in stone?

[ocean frost]

All of them?

Sometimes I will just craft things in a box just for the unlock

[robust brook]

Just use belts

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah I set up the stuff but small quantity but I expect to tear it down when I get hoverpack because at that point it’s reasonable to start spamming out buildings. And also by then you’re getting good rate from overclocked mk 2 miners

And maybe you’ve unlocked someone ingot alts too

[robust brook]

Just use mk115 belts

[quick hound]

No jetpack/hoverpack run when?

[wicked nacelle]

When ducks fly.

Wait. What??

[quick hound]

we can fly..?

…

[robust brook]

Nah uh

[quick hound]

I’m sending my goose cousins after you. beware the cobra chicken

[robust brook]

Have you ever seen fly and duck in the same room?

[sudden flint]

Uses an entire project assembly space elevator array to build.

[robust brook]

Real

[robust brook]

Along with 1000000000000000 screws

[wicked nacelle]

A zero g version of satisfactory could be fun. Maybe you’re building the thing in space that gets resources from the planet?

[quick hound]

We’re all screwed

[wicked nacelle]

Some of us are stitched

[clever lagoon]

are there pipeline hole walls

[quick hound]

Yes

[wicked nacelle]

In the awesome shop I think to unlock them?

[random garnet]

I’m making my storage Hub. Quick question there’s like no point in storing ingots is there. Like no buildings require it to my knowledge

[wicked nacelle]

Way better use of time finding Mercer spheres and putting stuff in dimensional depot than a storage hub. Way better. But some people love their storage hubs

[random garnet]

Yeah, tbh I’m mostly building this cos why not looks nice lol

[charred sandal]

getting kinda disappointed by the lack of wall options..am i missing something

Basic steel or stone? thats it?

[random garnet]

Most are in the shop

I mean you got the FISCIT wall, concrete wall and Steel wall

[pine patrol]

me personally i put it anywhere im currently working on it moves often

[charred sandal]

yeah idk none of those looks any good to mer

[random garnet]

I always build using the 1M walls even though it costs extra resources I feel stacking the 1M design looks way better than the 4M

[wicked nacelle]

Looking at all the fancy people that make videos about their designs it doesn’t seem like wall options are holding them back

[charred sandal]

and you cant seem to really color steel or concrete ones

[random garnet]

What do you mean I colour my concrete walls?

My mate literally has a concrete cube that pink 😂

[pine patrol]

Most things have a base color pattern if you are using the same default pattern the object is using it wont work because its already applied

[random garnet]

Although yeah you can’t colour steel walls or even apply a finish to them sadly

[merry granite]

Concrete is my favourite foundation and wall personally

[random garnet]

Concrete is great makes it so I just need concrete to build all my factory’s

[ebon vessel]

it’s been soooooo long, i miss satisfactory

[pine patrol]

?

[charred sandal]

I guess concrete walls do colors, its just a lot duller then with foundations and my colorblind ass can barely tell

[random garnet]

I guess cos I’m reality concrete would turn out to be a more dull colour when coloured atleast I think

I don’t think I’ve ever seen like BRIGHT coloured concrete in real life only ever more dull colours

[ocean frost]

You can use negative numbers or some other B's to make concrete more vivid

https://youtu.be/Ipg3CIRP7Ns

[quick hound]

quick question, if I went with a rocket fuel fuel generator power plant, would that be worth it? (I’m doing it anyways, but just curious.)

[compact flicker]

Its optimal

[quick hound]

Elaborate.

[compact flicker]

You can power an absurd amount of generators with rocket fuel

Idk the exact numbers, but its much more than regular or turbofuel

[quick hound]

Elaborate.

[compact flicker]

https://youtu.be/MJTta-WoSHQ?si=20WR5sa7ytpXt3KL

[dense violet]

define 'worth it' ?

[meager plume]

Does anyone have a TIER 4 base pre aluminum save file i can look at, I am struggling with mine to make aluminum really at all possible to mass produce and need some help figuring out other people have done this. I might be some complete restructuring of mine but im not sure rn. If you could DM me that would be great to follow server rules

[dense violet]

to have a decent chunk of power you'd want like 600 fuel generators with rocket fuel
you could do the same with nuclear with 60 gens

and basic nuclear is very simple - and the more uranium efficient recipes ... aren't a huge deal

[hidden spruce]

Real men go rocket fuel, Nuclear is for sissies.

[quick hound]

I want to huff the rocket fuel

[hidden spruce]

Just blueprint like 4 Fuel generators

then it'll just take you like 24 hours to put them all down

[narrow canyon]

... how slow you going?

[dense violet]

it's the huffing of rocket fuel that slows them down you see

[compact flicker]

Finally got my new monorail operational

:3

[ocean frost]

Pobably wanting for all the construction materials to be crafted

[lofty forge]

watching a bi-directional rail that uses path signals function is one of the most joyful experiences in this game.

[quick hound]

It’s so good.. 🤤

[lofty forge]

unfortunate that they are technically slower, and more complex

[compact flicker]

Just a big loop with a few stops, totalling 8 freight cars

[ocean frost]

Call or the snowpiercer

[compact flicker]

But now my cooling systems, turbo motors, fused frames, and radio control units are automated

So thats nice :3

[lofty forge]

correct, normally the brightness value can only be between 1 and 0. but turns out you can just... manually enter values in there. over 1 gives you super white. (pure snow white) and below 0 gives you pure black

it bypasses the color filters of plastic concrete and concrete too

[lofty forge]

yay <3. those are really difficult to do

[lofty forge]

still really good. no signals, no secondary trains to maintain, just a nice simple loop. did it in my first playthrough, functioned really well.

[sudden flint]

Using basic recipies and any amount of over/underclocking, what is the cleanest way to make quickwire with one pure node?

[compact flicker]

Goes from the red forest, purple forest, the starting planes, then the western oil islands

[sudden flint]

*assuming mark 1 or mark 2 miners, and taking into account mark 3 belt throughpur maximum

[random garnet]

Man I love how with trains I don’t even need to be at the station I want it to go to and from.

I can just go like to the middle of nowhere and aslong as the stations are in the same train line it will just autopilot it’s way to it’s loop

[compact flicker]

Wouldn't it just be miner -> smelter -> constructor?

[sudden flint]

yeah. It's just got annoying ratios because 45 ore into a smelter is 15 ingots out and 120 isn't cleanly divisible

[split quail]

Miner Mk2 Clocked at 150% for 360 Caterium / min (pure node). Run this through 8 Smelters for 120 Ingots feeding 10 Constructors producing a total of 600 quickwire.

Edit: Everything runs at 100% (except the miner @ 150%) and consume all ore and ingots produced.

[dense violet]

that's why clocking exists. Makes those sort of thing meaningless

[sudden flint]

thanks those numbers are nice

[merry granite]

is it theoretically possible to run out of biomass/fuel on the map and just have no source of power with no other source unlocked

[compact flicker]

Enemies respawn so nah

[merry granite]

enemies dont give biomass? is there a way to make fuel out of remains?

[compact flicker]

Yes

1 protein can make 100 biomass

[idle brook]

Ok solid question, satisfactory is all about maximum effeciency which uses a lot of math through multiplication and devidation, SO WHY, WHY IN GODS NAME, do mk1 belts transport 60 items pr min mk 2 120 items pr min BUT MK3 FOR SOME UNKNOWN GOD DAMN REASON TRANSPORTS 270 items a minute?????

[merry granite]

really

im on phase 4 and i never knew about that

recipe never showed up

[idle brook]

u gotta research it in the mam

[merry granite]

oh okay interesting

[idle brook]

BUT WHY

why are the belts all perfect multiplicators of each other each one doubling the one before EXCEPT MK3

Surely there must be a good explination for this, because if not, im afraid to say it, but then it isnt very "satisfactory"

[void cliff]

Anyone play on the ROG Ally X? Curious how good it is compared to steam deck. Steam deck graphics and performance leave me a little bit sad 😔

[sullen gull]

The belts should just be thought as of "total amount that can be moved" imo. Trying to match production rates and such to exact belt speeds will just cause annoyances.

[flint grail]

Tmw when you have to restart the game right when you were about to go to bed cause your frames dropped for no reason 😭

[visual valve]

Hey, I played satisfactory a while ago and loved it. Now it's on console I've recommended it to a friend but he's an extremely casual gamer. I think he'd love the actually factory side but hate the combat and finding mercer spheres, hard drives, slugs etc. He'd also play on ps5.

Is there a way to lessen those aspects? Like disabling combat for example?

[analog dragon]

my bf and i use his to host our world LOL. it runs at a stable 30-40 fps with lowwwwww graphics settings on our phase 4 world

[sudden flint]

I dunno. a nice little bonus throughput for some supply lines?

[sullen gull]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1onf7xn/mk3_belts_being_270min_actually_makes_more_sense/

[idle brook]

Theres a post that on that reddit thread that literally says that a large reason why some belts dont have the belt speed that would logically make sense mathematically speaking is bc the devs and i quote literally wanted to "fuck with the math lol"

[merry granite]

mk4 is 540 isnt it? a perfect double of 270?

[sullen gull]

480

[merry granite]

okay nevermind lol

[idle brook]

U SEE WHAT I MEAN?

[merry granite]

to me it feels satisfying though

[idle brook]

its breaking my brain, and i dont like it

[merry granite]

like im not a big numbers guy but 60,120,270,480 are pretty satisfying numbers to me

multiples of 30

[idle brook]

the numbers might be satisfying but 60,120,240,480 wouldve been "satisfactory"

[ocean frost]

maybe one of the devs accidnetly has a build with 9 smelters and needed a 270 belt so they why we have it.

[split quail]

FWIW: 270 == 450% of 60. If it helps your brain feel better that it can math.

[idle brook]

honestly i diddnt think of that, thats is kind of a good point but 240 is also a multiple of 30 so 🤷

[merry granite]

yeah

[sullen gull]

Regardless, the belt is just a carrier... so long at the input or output belts are greater or equal to than needed, no issues.

[idle brook]

thats not my issue, my issue is why does it perfectly double every level, but then mk 3 is all quirky and decided to say "fk the system im doing my own thing"

i dont like it

[merry granite]

moores law :)

[idle brook]

ive seen many posts and reasonings and theories trying to justfy it, but theyve all been from players, the only thing ive seen from devs is them saying "haha funny, math dont work tihi"

and it makes me ANGRY

Grrrr

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-why-confused-jack-black-gif-8714598

[ocean frost]

guys its so we could have steel screws at 260/m

[idle brook]

BUT BUT BUT

its 270/m not 260/m so even then

ITS NOT PERFECTLY EFFECIENT

[merry granite]

i prefer 270 because its a multiple of 30

than 260

[idle brook]

but so is 240????

[merry granite]

cant help you there

it is what it is

[idle brook]

it shouldve been 240 since mk 1 is 60 mk2 is 120 mk 3 SHOULD be 240 but its 270

[sullen gull]

It's an "issue" that they are creating for themselves..

[ocean frost]

we can make a mod just for you

[merry granite]

isnt mk5 like 1200

[sullen gull]

780

[merry granite]

oh really

why did i think it was 1200

[idle brook]

yes, but i havent gotten that far so as of now i refuse to aknowledge its essistance

[merry granite]

is there a mk6?

[sullen gull]

Mk6

[ocean frost]

bolted iron plates used 250 screws

[idle brook]

WAIT WHAT

[merry granite]

ah ok

[idle brook]

480 +480 DOES NOT EQUAL 780???

[lofty forge]

there is since 1.0

[idle brook]

why am i getting less value from my belts now?

omg i cant, my brain cant handle this

[sullen gull]

Dude, again, ignore trying to match production rates to belt speed, and you'll be fine.

[merry granite]

its kind of logarithmic