satisfactory

[silk ocean]

Like to make Plutonium Rods?

[quick hound]

pellets

[silk ocean]

Let me fire myself to my nuclear plant, one sec xD

[quick hound]

Let the radiation wash over you.

Atom’s glow is divine.

[silk ocean]

nom nom

[fluid sapphire]

no basis for a religion quite like an undetonated warhead

[brazen coral]

Finally unlocked the nobelisk

[quick hound]

I’ve made a full nuclear power plant functional with NO aluminum factory :>

[scenic mirage]

why

[silk ocean]

So the Uranium Waste comes in, goes into blenders to do Non-Fissile Uranium, that goes into Particle Accelerators (with more waste - split some off at the start) to produce the Pellets

[quick hound]

I don’t know..

[nocturne warren]

dont some recepies need aluminum

[quick hound]

Yes.

[steel kelp]

https://youtube.com/shorts/SxrjY9T1gC0?si=UNA7394H_0bV6nky

has anyone been able to get this to work on console? Im able to edit the numbers but it seems like it doesnt save?

[silk ocean]

The Particle Accelerators are easy - that's just the Non-Fissile Uranium and some of the waste. The Non-Fissile Uranium itself needs a bit more involved ingredients - Silica, Nitric and Sulphuric Acid

[quick hound]

Nitric?

[nocturne warren]

nuclear energy is either you spent 100 hours bringing water and automating plutonium or have a nuclear meltdown

but it pays off

[remote pasture]

@silk ocean guess what

[quick hound]

How do I make nitric acid?

[silk ocean]

Yea so Nitric Acid is made in a Blender using Nitrogen Gas, Water and some Iron Plates

[quick hound]

Fuck

[silk ocean]

Sulfuric Acid (which I can't spell, been spelling it with a "ph") is just Sulphur and Water in a Blender

[quick hound]

I got that :)

[silk ocean]

That's the hardest stage in the reprocessing, but there is another step

Nice

[remote pasture]

@silk ocean check your dm

[silk ocean]

You got it baby xD

[brazen coral]

Still trying to automate getting the stuff for phase. I think I'm on two, what phase is nuclear power unlocked?

[remote pasture]

Its downloading as we speak

[quick hound]

4

[brazen coral]

I'm on whatever trains are on apparently

[silk ocean]

Depends where your nuclear is, North West there is one, a few others around the world (Nitrogen veins)

[scenic mirage]

dont stress about that for now, you still have a long ways to go 🙂

[quick hound]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

[brazen coral]

Oh for sure! I just unlocked turbo fuel though which is nice but still need the bottling process

[quick hound]

I hope they make optimizations for console soon, it’s starting to lag whenever I try building haha

[steel kelp]

Really? I dont get any lag unless im dismantling complex bps or 50 items at a time

[clear aspen]

Hello chat

[quick hound]

What phase are you on?

[steel kelp]

5

[clear aspen]

How is everyone’s day?

[steel kelp]

I have a megabase which produces all the prior phase items, is right next to an 8 train station and has a bus with like 15k+ items per min on it

0 lag

[quick hound]

then what did I do to my game

[scenic mirage]

🙃 tryna fix train throughput... i have enough alum casing but my machines keep going idle bc theres no casing 😭

[clear aspen]

Me personally, I’m happy that today is last day of school until thanksgiving break

[quick hound]

What do you play on?

[steel kelp]

Are you on PlayStation

[quick hound]

YES!

[steel kelp]

Im on a series x, ive only seen issues w ps

[clear aspen]

Maybe more carts?

[quick hound]

mother fucker

[clear aspen]

Not trying to be condescending but I think that it would help

[quick hound]

Is crossplay fixed??

[hard ivy]

More wagons/trains

[steel kelp]

Sorry to hear lag must make the game v shitty

[clear aspen]

I thought there was no cross play

[scenic mirage]

no theres enough... enough casing going through but it just keeps going idle. im only using one output of the train tho maybe thats why

[quick hound]

Crossplay between consoles

[clear aspen]

Oohhh

[steel kelp]

It is

[clear aspen]

My bad

[steel kelp]

They fixed the epic stuff a few days after release

[quick hound]

yeah, like moving around and stuff is fine, however when I try building every time I move to another part, the game freezes for 2 seconds

[quick hound]

Ooo! Then would you like to play with me later?

I could really use the help..

[steel kelp]

That really sucks. What do you need help with?

[hard ivy]

Yeah, you need ISCs on both loading and unloading, connected with 2 belts to the platforms, and then 1 belt between container and factory

[steel kelp]

I’m currently almost done w my “mega” factory so im kinda prioritising that atm

Sorry :((

[quick hound]

I need help setting up a nuclear waste processing plant.. and also to get stuff to finish phase 4..

[steel kelp]

Oh hahaha ive not touched nuclear yet

[quick hound]

Awww!

[steel kelp]

I have it all planned out but it looks like its gonna take a while

[quick hound]

HOW? You’re phase 5 and still no nuclear?

[steel kelp]

Mine is gonna make 900gw

[scenic mirage]

ye gonna take a few minutes to do

[quick hound]

😱

[quick hound]

GIVE ME GIVE ME GIVE ME

[steel kelp]

Rocket fuel is so op, i have 130gw from just 600 crude

[hard ivy]

There's no requirement to do nuclear to reach and even finish P5

[quick hound]

how do I make rocket fuel?

😭

[steel kelp]

If you dm me and remind me later, i can show you the screenshot from modeller of my plant - it requires all the sloops jn the game so not the most optimal

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch rocket fuel

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=rocket+fuel

[steel kelp]

Its mam research

[quick hound]

I have.. a lot..

[steel kelp]

Yea i mean like every single one lol

[scenic mirage]

i think imma be phase 5 when i start nuclear

well i could start nuclear now but i think i needa build more power

[quick hound]

Check screenshots..

I think I have way more than enough

[steel kelp]

Lol ye that was gonna be my plan b if i ran out

Using the truck thing i was telling you about

[quick hound]

oh, it wasn’t with a dupe glitch haha

[steel kelp]

Yea i remember you telling me

[quick hound]

oh yeah I remember

[steel kelp]

Ok if you dm me ill send you my plan for it if you wanna try it out

Its v resource heavy tho, lots of iron esp iirc

So probs not feasible without mk6 belts unless you enjoy making lots of belts

[quick hound]

what does phase 5 give you?

[quick hound]

😭

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch milestones

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=milestones

[steel kelp]

Idk by heart but its all the t9 milestones

[scenic mirage]

a headache

[quick hound]

how do you make what ever the fuck is ficsium

[clear aspen]

What is everyone thankful for?

[quick hound]

lobotomies

[scenic mirage]

the simple fact that i was able to move to denmark this year

[quick hound]

fuck I can’t buy ficsonium

from the shop even when I’m the level

[fluid sapphire]

indeed, why build stuff when you can make a game breaking amount of sloops heheheheh

[quick hound]

looks like I’ll spend the next 4 hours today building power augmenters

[silk ocean]

Why would a resource-rich alien world, with predominately creatures akin to Avatar's Pandora (i.e. ubiquitously hostile) orbiting a gas giant around Alpha Centauri, a near but remote garden world, like this world, have two strange features - Lizard Doggo's, and a Toilet where you can flush certain things. Do you think this whole situation is a bit strange XD

[fluid sapphire]

we are here to work, not ask questions

[silk ocean]

Back to work y'all xD

[quick hound]

I’m being forced to do this

[fluid sapphire]

are puppies and kittens not enough motivation for you

[quick hound]

no and yes.

[hard ivy]

Why would you want to buy it???

[quick hound]

from the awesome shop? So I don’t need to spend forever grinding all of the stuff to make t6 belts

[hard ivy]

Ficsonium is in no way required to make t6 belts???

[silk ocean]

You just woke the KYO, my son xD

Uh oh XD

[quick hound]

help me

[fluid sapphire]

ficsonium =/= ficsite

[brazen coral]

||It was never about the puppies and kittens 😭||

[hard ivy]

You mean Ficsite?

[silk ocean]

There be no help from the master of eduction xD

[quick hound]

this

[silk ocean]

Son.... you are on your own now xD

[hard ivy]

You can buy trigons

[quick hound]

THANK FUCK

[hard ivy]

You need time crystals too XD

[brazen coral]

I would think eventually you could buy anything given that you unlocked the appropriate tier

[quick hound]

can I buy those?

[hard ivy]

Yes

[brazen coral]

Pretty sure you can also buy hard drives eventually 😀

[quick hound]

don’t need them, I got every single one :)

[hard ivy]

Yep, for the low, low price of 100 tickets

[brazen coral]

But extra hard drives just means more slots for your own inventory if you already unlocked everything lol

[hard ivy]

It's a great deal

[hard ivy]

There are only 2 +6 inv upgrades

You don't get more for scanning more HDDs

[fluid sapphire]

fantastic deal, fr fr, it only takes me like 3 weeks to get that many tickets

[brazen coral]

I got one from a hard drive that I've seen

The +6 to inventory

[hard ivy]

Yeah, there are 2 of those

[brazen coral]

Also I just unlocked geothermal power. Why is it so sad?

[hard ivy]

Because it's free and easy

[teal cobalt]

With 1.0 being a thing, is my pc gonna suffer? (1050ti, ryzen 5 2600 and 16gb ram)

[brazen coral]

I mean I get that it requires no extra supervision but the power output is so much on the lower end

[hard ivy]

I don't even bother unlocking it tbh

7 GW is nothing

And it makes the graph wavy

[brazen coral]

I'll probably still claim all of them just to have that little bit of extra power, but I'm not going to do it unless I have an automation for the parts, but I still got to hunt down all those somersloops first

[teal cobalt]

I'm asking for when I reach endgame

[livid geyser]

Think I’m gonna stop playing Satisfactory for now because aluminium factory is stupid, lmao.

[hard ivy]

Skill issue

[tall lantern]

gotta learn how to handle byproducts

[livid geyser]

Yup.

[zenith pecan]

Aluminium isn't that bad.

[tall lantern]

each tier teaches you to deal with new stuff

[fluid sapphire]

if you keep your builds small, you might be ok

[brazen coral]

I'm not even to aluminum yet but I just got a manufacturer, can start making computers and other complexities

[sterile blade]

1.0 made things more optimized. While it did add some productions, that probably doesn't end up making the endgame worse thanks to optimization

[teal cobalt]

Thanks for the detailed answer

[sterile blade]

Nobody teaches you how to deal with ADA's relentless mockery

[tall lantern]

that's tier 0 😆

[pine ore]

i just finished computers/high speed connectors with silica and crystals in one factory, was so much fun lol

[zenith pecan]

Did you ever go back to fix your earlier save, that one was proper mixed and was cool to tour.

[whole drum]

"Interesting. Most pioneers already had coal power set up by now."

Don't worry. She's not mad, just disappointed.

[silk ocean]

If ChatGPT does a male voice is he...a he? xD

or Copilot does a female voice conversely She a She? xD

[whole drum]

They won't allow this because nobody would listen

[sterile blade]

Hell nah.
I considered the idea, but it would take quite a bit of effort for a pretty bad result (eg: modifying unload balancers for the factory station, adding a rotor production with its own input line... And I only have space to do the former nicely)

TLDR: Too much work, I never seriously considered doing it

[silk ocean]

Seems to happen with satnav xD

I mean I don't care what the voice is, hell, I'll take any help I can get with my useless driving navigation skills xD

[whole drum]

I'm the total opposite. My gf is bewildered how I can use backroads that I have driven once ever to find my way to places and avoid a lot of traffic.

[sterile blade]

@zenith pecan My efforts are on a different and more ambitious project, that kinda dwarf the Sushi Fuel Rods factory... Actually, it includes its production line and extends it to Ficsonium, so there'll be even more sushi there ||I'm thinking of sushi-ing the Nuclear generators too...||

Aka: Omnifactory 2.0, outputting everything except a few items (Plutonium Pellets, nuclear wastes etc)

[silk ocean]

I'm fairly okay at driving but my navigational skills basically rely on the sun, luck, Venus (when available), a star tracker (when stars visible). So basically because I don't own a star tracker and Venus is not usually visible, I am usually lost

Oh and in the night I am basically doomed, no sun and all that

[whole drum]

I think navigating by sun would result in driving in circles, lol

[silk ocean]

You would have to take into account the rotation of the earth that is true

Star tracker would be better, but try living in the UK... clear sky? what? wait it's happening™

[mortal ginkgo]

What if you drive too close to the sun? 😭

[silk ocean]

Send a WhatsApp to Icarus xD

[scenic mirage]

52/100 nuclear for phase 5 🙏

making 5 per minute

[fluid sapphire]

dis crazy, some time ago i designed a perfectly balanced train loading system to transport aluminum

except some idiot didnt build it properly

that was months ago and i only discovered it today

[scenic mirage]

damn bro some idiot really out here fucking up your hard work 😭

[fluid sapphire]

ikr

fortunately it should be as easy as a split and 2 merges to fix

[scenic mirage]

🔥 hell yeah

[cedar vault]

uh

i mean it's not ideal

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots messageLETS GO

[fluid sapphire]

nice

[cedar vault]

what is it?

[silk ocean]

Women rule men, we know that xD

[scenic mirage]

wdym

[hearty kiln]

can someone help me with my power factory?

[silk ocean]

What's wrong with said "power factory"

[mortal ginkgo]

Its not powering I bet 😭

[silk ocean]

Is this a factory is is making power components for powerplants

[silent dust]

hey gang, been thinking a lot about playing satisfactory recently but black friday is near, is there any guarantee satisfactory will go on sale?

[hearty kiln]

welp im dumb i need help with my coal generators

[silk ocean]

Line 8 of them up

3 water gens for 8, have a look at the wiki

Feed in the coal using a Manifold (also wiki)

You're all set

[mortal ginkgo]

Feed the water from two ends AND from the middle

it will be fine

[hearty kiln]

i know what to do is just i aint geting enough water in them

[mortal ginkgo]

you can make/play around/beautify it later.

For now, it needs to work

[silk ocean]

Do you have headlift?

[hearty kiln]

yeah

[mortal ginkgo]

you need 3 water bois as I told above

[hearty kiln]

i have alot more then 3

[silk ocean]

Can you SS this situation?

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes we need actual proof.

Btw Water extractors need to be well powdered as well

[hearty kiln]

aight

[brazen coral]

I just got finished running a quartz line into my factory to incorporate the oscillators and the high-speed connectors

[silk ocean]

Is this a swimming pool, like talcum powder XD

[mortal ginkgo]

shhh. powder your factory

dont question, just make sure it is well powdered

[fluid sapphire]

@mortal ginkgo you aint seen nothing, thats nowhere near the worst of it

[silent dust]

is there a guarantee that satisfactroy will have a discount for black friday, anyone know?

[mortal ginkgo]

I am trying to understand why we need balancers for trains...

[silk ocean]

I like to take care of the toes of my Assemblers xD

[hard ivy]

There's never a guarantee

[brazen coral]

I only just unlocked the Mark 3 power lines, need the wall connectors but I ran out of tickets earlier lol

[hearty kiln]

hold up whare do i send it tho

[mortal ginkgo]

only CCS knows and so far there isn't an announcement I think

[silk ocean]

Which platform, it only just released on console xD

[mortal ginkgo]

why do you need mark 3 power line wall connector brotherman

[brazen coral]

Mark 3 is really simple to do though

[silent dust]

the games been out for more than a year, did they do it last year?

[fluid sapphire]

output exceeds belt capacity, if no balancing is done, some cars load faster than others, the train will wait too long to leave, thus creates throughput issues

[hard ivy]

You can just check steamdb

[silent dust]

console

[brazen coral]

I mean I don't but they look nicer

[silk ocean]

no lol, it released 5 minutes ago

[brazen coral]

Less tall crap flooding the vision

[hearty kiln]

whare do i send the ss

[silk ocean]

#screenshots

[mortal ginkgo]

cant we have cars specialized for factories? like in station, Cart 1 always outputs for Iron Plates, Cart 2 always for Iron Rods, Cart 3 always for my mom etc

[brazen coral]

What did?

[hard ivy]

#1038092680493801533 if you have a question or require help
#screenshots if you want to show off

[silk ocean]

The console release, sorry if I got messages confused, chat is busy XD

[fluid sapphire]

specialized cars is not enough for me, i have specialized trains

mixed trains are far too complicated for me

not worth the effort when i can do a simple single product from A to B

[hard ivy]

Nah, 1 item type per train is the optimal way

[brazen coral]

Console release was on the 4th, been gaming at least over 130 hours doing random stuff, only just now do I actually intend on making a working automation line that actually looks nice

[silk ocean]

What can help busy chat, type faster 😈

[hearty kiln]

i send it

[mortal ginkgo]

HOLY WATER

[hearty kiln]

😄

[silk ocean]

Kinda need a better SS than that, above xD

[mortal ginkgo]

HOLY GOSH DARN MADNESS WATER

[hearty kiln]

whare above tho?

[mortal ginkgo]

All I see is MADNESS

That poor one pipe trying to send water for 345983509830598390 coal generators!

And people says this game does not need Horror tag!

[hearty kiln]

3 belts.

[silk ocean]

BROTHERMAN it is madness right now

[hard ivy]

Brother that's a few dozen generators and how many water pipes? 2? They're not even mk2

[mortal ginkgo]

ok so, 3 water extractor for 8 coal generators

start from there

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Coal-Powered_Generator#/media/File:Coal_Generator_Schematic.png

Check this out before we lose our minds

[hearty kiln]

i send another one

[fluid sapphire]

split it up into blocks of 3:8

[mortal ginkgo]

I AM NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO CHECK IT BROTHERMAN

[hearty kiln]

it aint the water is the generators

[mortal ginkgo]

I doubt that brother.

That screenshot also shows nothing, we need pipes, belts 😄

[hearty kiln]

a

[hard ivy]

It is the water

[mortal ginkgo]

b!

[hard ivy]

Unless you hid a dozen pipes somewhere I can't see

[silk ocean]

Which PS wanted my help xD

I have lost track in the MADNESS !

[hearty kiln]

i send the pipes

want more pipes?

[north summit]

mfffmgmgmgg caterium computer

[hard ivy]

How many generators did you put on one pipe

[north summit]

less need for useless copper

[hearty kiln]

all of them

[north summit]

more caterium

[hearty kiln]

dont have that yet

[hard ivy]

And how much can 1 pipe carry?

[hearty kiln]

5.3

[brazen coral]

Depends on the length of the pipe

[hard ivy]

Carry, not hold

Per minute

[hearty kiln]

how to hell do i check that

[hard ivy]

Description or the pipe gui

[hearty kiln]

300 then

[brazen coral]

The rate of flow is always constant or at least the maximum limit unless you set a valve and depending on what type of pipe. Mark II Mark 3. Mark 1

[lucid storm]

which fuel should i use for jetpack, best fuel i have access to technically is turbo

[hard ivy]

And how much does 1 generator consume

[brazen coral]

And whether it's horizontal or vertical?

[mortal ginkgo]

biofuel, packaged one

[hearty kiln]

45

[hard ivy]

Liquid biofuel probably

[mortal ginkgo]

turbo lets you go up faster, but liquid biofuel lasts WAY longer

[hearty kiln]

a min

[hard ivy]

So how many can 1 pipe supply

[hearty kiln]

a shit

it gonna be to much pipes bruh

[north summit]

Jetpack is

based on different types of fuel right

[hearty kiln]

ccan one of yall help me move all the water pipes better 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

split it up into blocks with a ratio of 3:8

[hard ivy]

Yeah it works differently with different fuels

[reef basin]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 and explain your issue with screenshots

[north summit]

can i stick leaves in it

my entire factory runs on leaves

[hard ivy]

No, it only accepts solid biofuel and all packaged fuels

[ivory condor]

you can, but that has the lowest efficiency of all biomass

[blissful agate]

If you need to move a ton of fluid blueprint a pipe stack like a 4x4

[north summit]

leaves rights

[hard ivy]

Also, why would you do that to yourself

[ivory condor]

ideally you want to use solid biofuel, that has the highest efficiency for biomass

[north summit]

10 thousand biofuel burners

[hard ivy]

You never do

[north summit]

go through leaves

quite fast

[reef basin]

why would you move so much fluid ever?

[ivory condor]

its better to process the leaves though before burning it but your choice i suppose

[north summit]

processing the leaves removes the purity

[ivory condor]

purity?

[north summit]

Nature must burn

[ivory condor]

im confused

[mortal ginkgo]

wat...

Are we in the correct discord server?

[blissful agate]

Water for pure recipes, dilute fuel in a spot with insufficient water

[ivory condor]

[reef basin]

build near water, ship other resources there

[north summit]

[hard ivy]

Build them near the water/oil

[mortal ginkgo]

Even I try not to joke about non-existent gameplay stuff because newcomers may be confused

[blissful agate]

Also we used a 4x4 for this #screenshots message

Actually 4x3 I think

[median rain]

If I have an uneven splitting like 240 into 160 and 80, could I just split it into half and just wait for one to overflow so it distributes at the right amount?

[reef basin]

yes, you could also not merge it and instead make two groups of machines, one making 80 and the other 160

[untold halo]

This game stole my house and killed my family

Worth it

[scenic mirage]

i wish you could enter an input of smth into a buildling, like 20.5 water instead of tryna guess the right clock that uses 20.5 water

and yeah you could use another tool for it but itd just be nice to be able to do it in game lmao

[untold halo]

I wish there were dlcs and different maps but im content as is

I mean I guess considering you can make the map whatever you want it to be that option is available

[vague creek]

I'd prob buy dlc for this game preorder with no details

[brazen coral]

Ok so I know there are servers available for PC but is anything else coming up for console?

[vague creek]

nothing announced iirc

[lucid storm]

should i upload fuel for jetpack

[vague creek]

dont see why you wouldnt

[reef basin]

[wanted number]/[default number]*100

[zenith pecan]

I look forward to seeing it.

[reef basin]

New maps are practically never happening

[vague creek]

I'm hoping for a procedural dlc like a repeatable asteroid mechanic.

[untold halo]

Fine by me

[hard ivy]

Asteroid mining would be cool

[reef basin]

They tried that in the past and didn't like the results

[vague creek]

ah didnt know 🙁

tbh if they say something didnt work well, I trust them

[craggy vector]

Just unlocked crude oil, closest node for that is what I remember to be an alpha stinger haven..(I’ve had many run-ins with alpha stingers and I haven’t survived a single encounter)

[hard ivy]

TBF, I think they tried procedural map generation, which really doesn't work for this game. But something like asteroids could work

The issue is figuring out what you're supposed to do up there and what benefits does it give

[craggy vector]

omg I just stopped staring in shock and the freighter already came back

[hard ivy]

Being able to get theoretically infinite resource mining throughput at a big effort could be a nice thing

[blissful agate]

Jump to bait the leap attack, run behind where they're going to land and then punish with batong or rebar gun

[hard ivy]

Just to make huge-ass endgame builds only limited by PC performance and nothing else

[craggy vector]

Okay, is it a good idea to bring the generators all the way here? And just bring the power lines home?

[lucid storm]

whats the best ammo to use for rifle

[ornate saffron]

That's the easiest

[blissful agate]

Seeker + liquid biofuel jetpack for actual brain off gaming

[ornate saffron]

They all perform differently. I like the homing ammo personally.

[blissful agate]

Turbo ammo if you like to think

[fluid sapphire]

The rare instances I need to fight anything, I only use homing ammo

[blissful agate]

You're doing a dilute fuel plant or?

[hexed phoenix]

=

[craggy vector]

I don’t even know I just started like a week or two ago and I genuinely don’t even know how to make oil yet

[blissful agate]

You'll need to make a bunch of rubber quickwire encased beams and motors to start on fuel power

Rubber from oil refining

Could be worse it used to take computers

[devout wharf]

I found unbreakable plant and it is messing up my project a bit. is there any way to get rid of it?

[blissful agate]

If it won't explode it's there to stay

[quick hound]

is new friend now

[lucid storm]

which ammo deals most dmg for rifle then ig

[craggy vector]

I didnt even want that stupid oil anyway

[blissful agate]

Turbo has highest DPS

[fluid sapphire]

If you are talking about the small bulbs then no. Fingers crossed they fix it in 1.2

[lucid storm]

ty

[quick hound]

chatchatchatchat hi

[devout wharf]

yeah, the bubble things in growing phase that after fully developing float

[hearty kiln]

i fixed my factory ty for helping me:)

[fluid sapphire]

Add it to the list of limitations that breed creativity, at least for now

[scenic mirage]

matter conversion unlocked 😎

[craggy vector]

What’s the most dangerous biome?

[scenic mirage]

swamp prob

[leaden turret]

yup

[craggy vector]

Where exactly would that be

[leaden turret]

east coast

[scenic mirage]

holy wtf the power shard recipe is EXPENSIVE

it dont even say what its produced in 😭

[mortal ginkgo]

Well it is automating POWER SHARDS

[craggy vector]

How do you automate power shards?😭 I thought you could only craft them

[mortal ginkgo]

very late game recipe

[scenic mirage]

man wtf is phase 5 i aint ready for this

[mortal ginkgo]

BWD recipe is just pure madness.

So is Fisconium Fuel Rod. Enjoy. 😄

[abstract heron]

Hello u

[quick hound]

chat, how do I do do I do do do do I do

[hard ivy]

Not really? In power, maybe

[quick hound]

I forgot what I was going to ask

[quick hound]

Hi Kyo, how are you?

[livid geyser]

Oh god. Is it bad? I’m barely in phase 4 and I’m struggling, lmao

[hard ivy]

Barely alive XD.

Coming home after spending, I shit you not, 11 hours at uni. Thankfully that's never happening again, but still

[quick hound]

Hmmmm.. is it against the rules to offer a PlayStation gift card to get someone to build me stuff?

[quick hound]

Jesus fuck man. get some Z’s.

[livid geyser]

Bro, there’s no rush. Take your time and experiment with stuff.

[quick hound]

nah, I’m just lazy and my brain just isn’t computing anything anymore

[hard ivy]

Whose rules would it be against?

[quick hound]

the rules in this discord

I don’t see one, but I don’t wanna get in trouble by el modioso

[hard ivy]

Take it to DMs then

[quick hound]

I was gonna put an ad out in looking for groups..

[livid geyser]

Bro.

[quick hound]

bite me

[hard ivy]

If you're feeling daring, you can ping mods to ask for permission XD

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, the main problem is how are you gonna trust them?

[quick hound]

pretty sure they’d smite the shit out of me

[scenic mirage]

Yeah I'm at like 98 gw

[quick hound]

Saving before they do anything

[livid geyser]

And I thought 7k MW was alot

[mortal ginkgo]

what I mean is, cant they just yoink the game and say goodbye and play on their own?

[hard ivy]

I mean a guy paid me a steam gift card for doing math for him.

The difference is I didn't ask for it

[livid geyser]

If you’re hosting, no

[scenic mirage]

I mean it can be, it depends on what your needs are. If you only need 2k mw and have 7k mw, thats a lot

[mortal ginkgo]

isnt PS Gift Card is just gifting the game?

[scenic mirage]

But I'm making 98k mw rn and use 70k ish

[quick hound]

@echo plover (don’t smite me) but am I allowed to put an ad out? I was gonna offer a PlayStation gift card for someone to help me make a super great factory. Just didn’t want to break any rules

[quick hound]

no..?

[livid geyser]

I thought he meant a gift card so you can buy whatever game you want, with £10, etc

[quick hound]

I meant this

though is in Canadian dollars

[mortal ginkgo]

oh so its paid labor, I see

[livid geyser]

Yup

[quick hound]

yes

[mortal ginkgo]

I thought he was going to give game as a gift

[quick hound]

our dollar isn’t even a dollar anymore 😭 😭 😭

[mortal ginkgo]

o'well, thats just "friends with benefits" at this point, there is nothing wrong with that

[hard ivy]

Wdym?

[quick hound]

Check out CAD to USD

CAD isn’t even a dollar

A single Canadian dollar isn’t even a dollar in the US

[mortal ginkgo]

at least its not 0.024USD like our currency here

[hard ivy]

I thought that was always the case

[primal obsidian]

just realized mk.5 can transport 780/min not 720 so all my calculations are messed up

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean... you carry more at least!

[unkempt blade]

on the positive side they're not messed up they're just not using 100% of the conveyor 😄

[hard ivy]

Yeah it literally hasn't been over a US dollar for over 12 years wdym

[quick hound]

it used to be Atleast 1 dollar American

[primal obsidian]

uhh i need to place only 4 more smelters and 6 more construcors nvm not that big of a deal

[quick hound]

or wait my brain hurts

😭

I can’t think straight

[unkempt blade]

but what's the conversion rate to awesomeshop coupons?

[quick hound]

none cause I eat them

[shell lava]

Guys, where can I find my lizard doggos that I have tamed? I'm searching for them

[unkempt blade]

you shouldn't eat dollars only smaller coins

[quick hound]

I eat the coupons duh

[livid geyser]

Is there like a pipeline manual or something like that? My understanding of pipeline is not good.

[quick hound]

pipes are pipes it’s not that hard

[unkempt blade]

those won't make your stomach jingle either though 🙁

[hard ivy]

There is! It's pinned in #math-and-meta

[quick hound]

it moves liquids or gasses

[livid geyser]

Brilliant, thanks.

[quick hound]

Alrighty, I’ll come back to harass all of you later! Bye!

[azure reef]

are ficsite trigons worth making out of aluminum?

[shell lava]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1441498192435871875

[unkempt blade]

Have a great day. Make sure to eat some nickels for your gut health!

[hard ivy]

Depends what you value more - bauxite or SAM

[livid geyser]

Outside of the purple sphere void, is there any other use for SAM? Currently in phase 4.

[azure reef]

depends what i need more of later

[hard ivy]

It's used extensively in tier 9

[livid geyser]

Understood.

[unkempt blade]

A normal save doesn't use anywhere near all of the available resources on the map. A lot of recipe choice is just personal preference

[azure reef]

alright i'll probably do aluminum then actually if i need a ton of it

[hard ivy]

If you're planning on doing Ficsonium and/or Matrices on a large scale, you might wanna save the SAM. If not, it's not that much of a bottleneck

[glad quest]

well apart from that one steel recipe

[unkempt blade]

I agree, everyone should use coke steel

[glad quest]

thats just worse

[primal obsidian]

is 20 oscillators/min enough

[hard ivy]

Anyone who doesn't use Heavy Encased Frame is either ignorant or dumb /j

[unkempt blade]

depends how you value coal vs oil 😄

[glad quest]

true lmao

[hard ivy]

Everything except default plutonium rods can be steelless

[fluid sapphire]

i make 20/min, i expect it to get me through the game

[glad quest]

rlly? i have a save using over 100 pm

[shell lava]

Can anybody help me?

[hard ivy]

For personal use? Like an order of magnitude more than enough. For anything else? Hard to say, probably not

[glad quest]

sure

[primal obsidian]

#1038092680493801533 just post there it lets you use images

and no slowmode

[shell lava]

Is it a way I can find my tamed lizard doggos?

[glad quest]

no u should of put it into a cage unfortunatly

[shell lava]

Bruh, they should add that

[hard ivy]

It's possible that it has despawned, untamed itself and respawned already

[glad quest]

just use 4 glass walls

[shell lava]

Well wel

[hard ivy]

Ig you can check SCIM, maybe it still exists somewhere

[mortal ginkgo]

If you dont lead your doggos to a foundation (cage), their respawn location reset so they go do their thing.

Very low chance is they can sometimes drop under the map but in your case I think they just reset their location.

[shell lava]

What is SCIM?

[fluid sapphire]

you dont need that at all to get through the game, i dont have anything that uses it even at the scale i produce it at, my target is 1 of each phase 5 elevator part per minute,

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=kN9k5twi1R2Qxx98tOcw

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=t2dOGtgy1Hs9R9ceHqJc

note there are some gaps there, but 20/min is easily enough to fill it, and then some

[mortal ginkgo]

A question if I may; What is the most flat zone in the game aside from ocean and sky?

I know Grasslands and Dune are but I was wondering if there is another place!

[hard ivy]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[pine ore]

guys where do i find photos i take with photomode ?

[hard ivy]

There's literally a button in photo mode that takes you there

[pine ore]

never seen that

[glad quest]

i used it to make motors and i think computers (it was a while ago) and made a bunch

[hard ivy]

Neither of these are things I'd use oscillators on lol

[primal obsidian]

go into photo mode press tab or wahtever the show settings button is and then it shows up

[fluid sapphire]

i make motors from iron only, and for computers i use caterium computer and silicon circuit board

[glad quest]

i was low on a bunch of stuff and had loads of oscillators on hand

[primal obsidian]

it should say open screenshot folder

dunno about console though

[fluid sapphire]

using rigor motor makes no sense to me with iron being so abundant

[pine ore]

that actualy helps thank you

[primal obsidian]

your welcom

[glad quest]

i was still using mk1 miners and i had a spaghetti factory and couldnt be bothered to get more (was being lazy tbh)

[fluid sapphire]

not judging, but that to me sounds like you were too lazy to go the store to get bread so you decided to start a grain farm

[shell lava]

Lets go my doggos didn't despawn, they were just right outside my base!

[leaden turret]

cba to go get milk, buys cow

[lament wraith]

hmmm trying to from 24 pipes of 350 to 14 pipes of 600

[hard ivy]

gl with that XD

[unkempt blade]

what're you making?

[lament wraith]

80 refiners with electrode aluminum scrap

[gentle lion]

Should I be able to grab the pod and other stuff before it kills me? Uranium that is

#screenshots message

[hard ivy]

correction, even luck isn't gonna help with that

[hard ivy]

radiation you're gonna be able to deal with. maybe pop an inhaler or 2. the radioactive hogs might be a different issue though

[lament wraith]

im using 12,000 bauxite for this factory

[glad quest]

can valves do limiters or was that a mod i cant remember

if so do a pipe manifold with valves (its finna be FUGLY)

[fluid sapphire]

dont do it

[hard ivy]

bauxite processing benefits a lot from a smart design
putting all pipes in one place is not that

[blissful agate]

Snipe those hogs in advance, also very high odds the only way to open that at this stage is to scavenge the parts from other crash sites

[lament wraith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1441508257561575425/20251121131837_1.jpg?ex=69220cae&is=6920bb2e&hm=a08e09fd8ac4c94ef517ba8d82359e33e5d67a7269ad4baf8ba3ce1e4bced4fb& to late

[quaint sundial]

What is the best provider for a server

[glad quest]

what u putting in the pipes?
is it sloppy solution? if so just do custom refinery size per pipe

[lament wraith]

water

[glad quest]

yeah good luck

wait if its byproduct cant u feed it back into the system?

[lament wraith]

technically i have 96 refineries on electrode aluminum scrap but some of them are underclocked

[glad quest]

or make canisters and sink it lmfao

[lament wraith]

that's what im doing

[glad quest]

so thats why u need to be balanced

[blissful agate]

You gotta throw darts to pick the alts and then spend multiple hours trying to get the water to work it's the only way

[fluid sapphire]

you know, you could make thousands of unrelated ingots with the waste water

[lament wraith]

8400 a minute of waste water

[blissful agate]

Recycling the waste water is not that bad if you don't try and make it pretty and symmetric

[fluid sapphire]

use it to make copper ingots, use that later for powder

[blissful agate]

Just feed the first X earlier machines with nothing but waste water and comp the rest with extractors

[hard ivy]

recycling water if not that bad, but only if you do it in small setups, each handling <=1 pipe each. merging them is a recipe for disaster

[lament wraith]

at the end im going to making 14100 ingots a minute

[blissful agate]

I love how often the first reaction to aluminum is "how do I make all of this"

I also did this

[glad quest]

i always sink water lmfao i can never get it to work

[hard ivy]

there are several methods that just work

[fluid sapphire]

sink it? use it with pure ingot recipes

at least you can use those later for something

[glad quest]

it was the same base as the 100 oscillators for motors

[fluid sapphire]

aah, well fair enough

[brazen coral]

What generators are available after fuel but before nuclear?

[blissful agate]

Geothermal I guess

They're not very good and limited in number but if you fully tap it with some battery reserve you basically have a nice coal plant worth of power

[fluid sapphire]

fuel generators accept a variety of fuels

different burn rates

[brazen coral]

Yeah I'm getting ready to make turbo fuel soon enough but got a build up the automation for stuff after I get set up with compacted coal

But I'll definitely get batteries forges for the geothermal. Basically like a coal generator

[white dawn]

Honestly, especially when you're first starting to work with pipes, it pays to keep things nice and simple

[fluid sapphire]

personally dont think turbofuel is worth it, rocket fuel is not that far (if you handcraft/shop your way through milestones, well worth it)

[white dawn]

You've got a fun-looking setup there, but if you stuck to 8 coal gens to 3 extractors, with everything just clocked to 100%, and have each set of those be a totally-independent pipe setup, it'd be a lot easier to debug

[glad quest]

250 fuel gens

[lament wraith]

if i grab all of the copper and caterium near me i can use up the waste water which would make me build at least 600 more refinery's and give me 15k copper ingots and 2.4k caterium ingots

hmmm not fun

[brazen coral]

I don't think I'm ready for rocket fuel yet. I don't have the stuff to store gases yet but either way, but also what is nitrogen used for?

[lucid storm]

if i make blueprint for power poles how do i make them connect automatically

[lament wraith]

try 750 overclocked 250% rocket fuel

[brazen coral]

Yeah I already have. I overclock everything almost immediately

[lucid storm]

if u are using rocket fuel setup fully with alt recipes then u prob dont need more power

[glad quest]

last few teirs

[lucid storm]

ig could put some power augmenters for more power

[brazen coral]

No, I'm just barely getting turbo fuel right now. I don't have the ability to process rocket fuel until a little later

[lucid storm]

ah u are at normal fuel

[brazen coral]

Yeah right now normal fuel

[lucid storm]

then next is just rocket fuel at tier 7 and 8

[brazen coral]

Yeah I just got the manufacturer a little while ago so I can make more complex stuff easier

[lucid storm]

u using the 2 alt recipes for fuel?

[brazen coral]

Haven't found them yet

Just the regular recipe and the reserve fuel

[glad quest]

bro u can legit like 3x ur oil

[lucid storm]

if u feel like it u can make your current fuel setup on 2 alt recipes, diluted packaged fuel and heavy residue
when u get those

[hard ivy]

4x

[glad quest]

wow yh bro do it

[lucid storm]

also if u dont mind a lil bit of cheese u can save scam alt recipes

save, reroll recipe, load if its not what u want

[brazen coral]

Oh, I already save and reset for recipes if I don't like it

[glad quest]

i just use a mod for it as i dont like looking for em

[brazen coral]

But right now I got recipes just sitting there in the library, haven't used them yet but still got like seven more. I need to process on the hard drives

[lucid storm]

its worth to get diluted package fuel and heavy residue recipes if u like to take yourtime in phases

[azure reef]

does anybody recommend some alt recipes for the superposition oscillator and neutral quantum processor production lines?

[lucid storm]

or u can just cope with what u have and in next phase make something easier with different alt recipe

[brazen coral]

Right now I only put down one fuel generator because I didn't have a automation for motors and those are a pain in the butt right now

[glad quest]

motors r easy its legit 1 rotor and 1 stator u can legit make like 20 pm with 3 nodes

[lucid storm]

any1 knows how to make blueprint connect to each other? or maybe it only works with belts

[glad quest]

nope

[lucid storm]

need to connect cables manually?

[brazen coral]

No I get that. They're easy but I didn't have any sort of automation setup for them and I am definitely going to sloop

[glad quest]

nah i didnt even know u could connect blueprints

[hard ivy]

it works with belts, pipes, rails and hypertubes

[glad quest]

fair enough

[zealous valley]

Is the best use for alien protein to turn them into DNA capsules and sink them?

[glad quest]

once research is done yes

[lucid storm]

crazy it doesnt with cables, but ig it's what it's

[hard ivy]

you can also turn it into inhalers and liquid biofuel for the jetpack

[brazen coral]

But I was getting Mark 4 lines set up for factory redesign cuz I have a storage crates set up for everything and just need to run lines and splitters to the new more modular design

[lucid storm]

i was just on animal hunt trip to turn alien protein into biofuel

very good value

10 minutes and i got full big storage of packaged biofuel and a lot i can make more

[azure reef]

might use the dark matter crystallisation for simplicity

[zealous valley]

The codex does not show alien protein being able to make liquid biofuel

[leaden turret]

alien protein > biomass

[hard ivy]

protein -> biomass -> solid biofuel -> liquid biofuel

[zealous valley]

Oh

[lucid storm]

its alien protein -> biomass -> solid biomass -> liquid biomass/biofuel -> packaged biofuel

[zealous valley]

Ok

[lucid storm]

missed a step

[azure reef]

how about oil-based diamonds? worth using over coal or nah

[glass pagoda]

Today I'm gonna finish teir 2 space elevator I only need 870 more things and then 100.more smart things

[brazen coral]

I do have a question though. Are the explosive rebar worth getting or is that like an anytime thing?

Cuz I just unlocked the nobelisk and those kind of have it beat already

[hard ivy]

rebar shoots faster so I use it instead of nobelisks for clearing rocks

[blissful agate]

Afaik crystallization is the most power + resource inefficient alt in the game

[azure reef]

dang really? so not worth using at all

[brazen coral]

Do they also deal with the poison flowers as well?

[glass pagoda]

It's bio coal

Lol

[zealous valley]

Anything the nobelisk can destroy the rebar can too

[lucid storm]

damm i didnt know rebar's game

[blissful agate]

Biocoal and charcoal don't really have values you can't automate them

[hard ivy]

it's not about efficiency. it's about getting rid of DMR without spending diamonds on it

[lucid storm]

ig imma embrace it again instead of nobelisk

[glass pagoda]

Ik i was joking

[azure reef]

alright im gonna try get lucky then

[brazen coral]

Okay cool

[azure reef]

i have a ton of hard drives saved up i was just waiting until i actually needed a later game alt

[hard ivy]

not entirely true, actually. one type of swamp tree can be broken with nobelisks but not rebar. for some reason

[brazen coral]

Also, what the heck are the nuclear nobelisk supposed to do? Irradiate the area

[hard ivy]

big boom

[wind marsh]

any tips for dealing with a ton of packaged fuel? i don't have recycled plastic (or whichever alt uses the heavy oil residue or polymer resin) so i made it into fuel and i'm storing it, but i only have enough space for 9 hours of storage (can make more but id like a better solution)

[hard ivy]

sink?

[zealous valley]

If you find a nest of stingers, nuke it from orbit

[wind marsh]

can you sink packageed fuel?

[hard ivy]

yes? you can sink the vast majority of items in the game

[wind marsh]

oh lol, i thought you couldnt because i wasnt able to sink packaged heavy oil residue

thanks

[blissful agate]

Heavy oil residue can be sunk, is the grinder powered?

[wind marsh]

im pretty sure it was, but i found a use for it before

im not sure 100% though, it was like 4 in the monring lol

[glass pagoda]

Blade runners are so useful

[blissful agate]

stupid good

Buffed crouch jump lets you really fly if the terrain is good

[glass pagoda]

The only thing stopping you is going up a hill and rocks

[unkempt blade]

and yet still slower than a factory cart

[glass pagoda]

Train is faster

[blissful agate]

I miss infinite zipline acceleration, was so unhinged

[unkempt blade]

yeah trains also crush blade runners

[glass pagoda]

But carts taste better

[blissful agate]

Train slide jump with liquid biofuel jetpack 💡

[fluid sapphire]

this game makes it way too easy to find side projects that dont provide any meaningful progression hehhhehhh, i will never finish

[sonic verge]

is there a way to remove the big Ballon trees or whatever theyre called? the chainsaw doesnt work with the one in the way of my foundation

[fluid sapphire]

sulfur research in the MAM

nobelisks

[sonic verge]

thanks!

im new to this game, I cant stop playing it. im on console so im late to the game. its actually inspiring me to get a new PC to play it. found out about it by looking up games like Factorio

[fluid sapphire]

i got it at the end of last september, became the only thing i played non stop for the entirety of october

if it hits, it hits hard, its also a lot more just... chill than something like factorio

and now i have 1100 hours

[leaden turret]

things that make satisfactory better different than factorio:

• is 3d
• is first-person
• actually looks nice
• no base defense (70 references available on that statement)
• can build up

[fluid sapphire]

on my first save still

[sonic verge]

I havent played Factorio much, I bought it in 2016 and only have a few hours played. but I had a dream about it like a week before this was released on console, I searched "games like Factorio" at like 2 in the morning and this game came up. I read about it and got extremely excited.

[fluid sapphire]

you are in for a real treat for sure

[muted pier]

Hey, I've got question. Just finished my firsrt coal factory. After fixing the water headlift, I now have the issue that my production and capacity are pefectly flat, however, there is a big gap between production (1.200 MW/s) and capacity (1.680 MW/s). Running 16 coal generators + 16 biomass, so it should have 2.000 MW/s. Am I misisng something? I've tripple checked all my wiring.

[sonic verge]

its so good. I refrain from looking up things father than where I am. I DI however look up load balancing/multiplex manifold though because it was confusing for me at the beginning

[crisp mortar]

Should I go for the copper rotor recipe?

[fluid sapphire]

biomass only adds capacity not production, while its not being used, as biofuel only burns when its actually needed

[fluid sapphire]

steel rotor 💪

[muted pier]

Lol, that makes sense. Thanks!

[brazen coral]

I'm actually starting to use more liquid biofuel while I can, especially for the jet pack cuz it's just sitting there otherwise

[muted pier]

but why then is my capacity lower then 2.000 MW\s, or did I miss calculate?

[fluid sapphire]

that would be my guess

[blissful agate]

Progression is also much longer run than factorio, speedrun is ~7hrs vs ~1h

[fluid sapphire]

it can be a slow burn and be very fun that way too

you could finish the game in 100 hours, or 150 hours.. or 1000+ hours

[crisp mortar]

Lol i had steel rotor saved in my library 😅

[fluid sapphire]

steel rotor is part of the chain that lets you make motors from iron only

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=izc7Yqtnlu47kNPNBW8p

[lament wraith]

hellhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1441530155364384859/20251121144551_1.jpg?ex=69222113&is=6920cf93&hm=50834bd274d0b4b8cd5be5eb69be59638b9da719fd21213d086e6da1a039f46b&

[junior arch]

Does the game have a companion app?

[hard ivy]

self-made hell, might I add

[lament wraith]

true lol

im going to have all the aluminum

[fluid sapphire]

no, but there is stuff like production planners, and an interactive map

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[lament wraith]

nope but there is Satisfactory Modeler on steam

[junior arch]

Im on console

[blissful agate]

copper rotor very fast and efficient but more complicated than steel

[crisp mortar]

Side question, I've made my oil power supply on the western central beaches, should I combine the four nodes there for max efficiency?

[fluid sapphire]

modeler has a learning curve, has some extra features that you dont necessarily need, sftools for the people that like simplicity

[brazen coral]

Is there a limit on how many train cars the train can have?

[fluid sapphire]

not one you could reasonably reach, but the rule of thumb is you want 1 locomotive per 4 cars, most of my trains are 2 locos + 8 cars, large amount of cars provides lots of legroom in trip time variation

[blissful agate]

Crude oil is relatively easy to transport so I wouldn't worry abt it if you don't need the extra power

[brazen coral]

I'd probably use it to transport something like it, water or oil that doesn't have either or

[crisp mortar]

Thankfully Josh from letsgameitout pushed the game so far that the devs kinda boosted its performance 😅 as insane said, probably not a limit we could ever reach like his

[brazen coral]

Yeah I already saw that playthrough it's crazy busy

Like the tornado

But I've also learned that belts snap in place and you can remove the supports once they're snapped in place, they don't really do anything different as an extra piece that isn't necessary anymore. XD

[fluid sapphire]

for aesthetics

[brazen coral]

Yeah for aesthetics but if I were going for aesthetics I'd use way more of the stackable belts

Which have been for long distance tracks

[junior arch]

Ill have to look at these on my laptop. These dont work well on my phone

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, they can be very information/ui dense

[fluid sapphire]

fr fr, stacks are cool af
#screenshots message

all the way around

[brazen coral]

I'm especially trying stacks in different lanes when they meet up in the the main factory, from there they enter boxes. Go up to get processed from the boxes into either smelters or constructors and then back down to different boxes and repeat for assemblers on the next floor

[glad quest]

tf this is insane

[fluid sapphire]

thats just some pieces of my aluminum factory

theres probably more belts in that factory than the rest of my map combined

[shell lava]

Bro my lizard doggos are insane! One of them gave me 12 fused modular frames!

[fluid sapphire]

nice score, those are worth a lot of sink points

[brazen coral]

Don't have aluminum just yet but did find the raw ore for it, just got to make it to phase 3 first which I should be able to by tonight

[fluid sapphire]

hell yeah man, aluminum is where things get hairy

its fun

[brazen coral]

I'm just setting up for the maximum amount of raw or the belt can handle to move into smelters and so on

And dividing it from there

[fluid sapphire]

which ore

[brazen coral]

Right now I'm handling just mostly iron

[fluid sapphire]

aah, cool, cool

[brazen coral]

Copper I make too much of so I just dumb that down

Can only make so much copper into so many things and even then it's way on overflow but I could just put it into the sink if I wanted to

[fluid sapphire]

absolutely, sink everything

[brazen coral]

Got a set of more power chains and fuel generators onto that first to handle that

[fluid sapphire]

keep those points flowing

[glad quest]

dont rush aluminium is hella rss intensive

[brazen coral]

I yeah, I don't intend to rush aluminum because I don't know what it actually does yet but I'm fine with just having overclocked fuel generators cuz the benefit of those far out paces coal right now

I'll probably redirect the coal to doing both black powder and steel production

And compacted coal when I can

[fluid sapphire]

no sense in making compacted coal for its own sake

[ornate saffron]

My goal every save is to rush aluminum

[ornate saffron]

Faster belts

[glad quest]

you prob wont have enough power then

[brazen coral]

I mean, what is compacted coal used for? I don't intend it to use as fuel. I know it's for recipe

[glad quest]

fuel

[brazen coral]

I mean you use it to unlock turbo fuel. That's about it right now

[glad quest]

and explosives

[fluid sapphire]

thats an alt, and its not a good one

you use it to produce turbofuel, a fuel that isnt worth producing at all (objective fact)

[glad quest]

rlly? why not

isnt it like 3x more efficent than fuel

[fluid sapphire]

just skip straight to rocket fuel

more return on less effort

[brazen coral]

I mean, don't you have to research turbo fuel? You have to produce some compacted coal and give it some sulfur and a hard drive

[hard ivy]

1. it's not
2. more oil efficient, sure. costs other resources too. fuel doesn't

[glad quest]

i was thinking of coal mb

[fluid sapphire]

yes, but you dont have to mass produce it

[wanton summit]

satisfactory dlc confirmed?

[brazen coral]

Yeah right now I'm not Mass producing it because I saw no sense in putting sulfur into coal for the generators at the time

[glad quest]

RLLY?

[brazen coral]

For even a little extra burn time

[shy mulch]

I found use for it. I'm a big fan of turbo diamonds

[fluid sapphire]

i mean for power

[wanton summit]

i'm asking

[glad quest]

oh not that im aware off

[wanton summit]

because will i get to play satisfactory on new steam machine

if no satisfactory on steam machine then i won't buy the steam machine when it's out

[fluid sapphire]

its a computer basically, of course you can play the game on it

[wanton summit]

can i plug it into a keyboard and mouse

[fluid sapphire]

no, thats the catch, you can only use voice commands and eye tracking

[wanton summit]

what about new satisfactory dlc that's confirmed

will it be able to run the steam machine

[fluid sapphire]

ocean biome expansion, automated fish boats and shashimi

[glad quest]

lol

[fluid sapphire]

of course

[wanton summit]

no that's not an industrial process like mining which fits satisfactory

[fluid sapphire]

of course it is, the boats will be manned by robots

[wanton summit]

if there was a ocean expansion then it would be like oil rigs and stuff

[fluid sapphire]

big fishing robots

[wanton summit]

buddy do you like make a robot farm on land in satisfactory

[fluid sapphire]

i do

[wanton summit]

i mean a alien farm

yeah lizard doggo factory

[fluid sapphire]

the fish are special you see, a new source of unprecedented levels of power

[wanton summit]

wow 🤩

so amazing very industrial satisfactory

[glad quest]

lol stop baiting him

[fluid sapphire]

hire me CSS, i am available

[craggy vector]

Dumb question, are there red slugs in the game?

[vestal reef]

How do people make truck systems? I cant even make a route without it adding pauses at stations which i didnt even set it to load. Am I doing something wrong here?

[fluid sapphire]

dont drive past those stations

the pathing automatically sets the truck to load or unload at a truck station thats in some proximity of the truck's path

[vestal reef]

I see

[fluid sapphire]

i dont know the exact distance

[frail sleet]

For the most part they don't, tractors/trucks are barely used because of their quirks, awkwardness (and for multiplayer, netcode issues)

Most people use belts, trains and drones.

You can make stuff work with tractors/trucks, but it takes longer and is more expensive (fuel). It's more of an "if you really want to" thing.

[vestal reef]

So if i just have a line of stations, I should space it out so that the truck doesnt cross and go into the loading/unloading zones

[vestal reef]

Ah man that really sucks, i just finished setting up roads for them

[frail sleet]

If you have roads and stuff you've already done most of the work and you can make it run. Some people do use them despite having to fight with stuff like pickups, routes and deadlocks. I just don't wanna enthusiastically give you tips for the right way to use the wrong tool unless you're informed about it

[fluid sapphire]

if its crossing other loading zones you are going to have collisions

[vestal reef]

I guess i need to just make the loading/unloading areas huge to prevent overlaps

Is there a way for me to add nodes manually by any chance?

[fluid sapphire]

you basically probably want to avoid crossing paths anywhere really

[vestal reef]

Two lane road should be fine right

[fluid sapphire]

probably, if its wide enough

i tried making roads at one point and gave up entirely

if you have to make roads, its easier to make rail

at least you can reuse that

[vestal reef]

Only reason i wanted roads is to make my world nice

[fluid sapphire]

its hard to make good looking roads

[vestal reef]

Have the devs said anything about trying to improve trucks and such?

[frail sleet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfYtbsmFyxw

This person uses trucks for example, but i can tell that they had to fight for them 😄

e.g. 3:20

[fluid sapphire]

well, we are getting fluid trucks, i doubt there is anything crazy planned for trucks at this stage

[vestal reef]

Thats crazy asl

Hopefully theres a surprise update to trucks

[frail sleet]

wouldn't surprise me if there were some improvements. Tractors/trucks and pipes stand out as kind of janky and difficult to use, and that's exactly the sort of thing to hit with postlaunch patches - but IDK (:

[fluid sapphire]

building roads like that is an absolutely insane amount of work

but that really applies to* anything this guy builds

[vestal reef]

If they add fluid trucks while still keeping the current trucks as is theres no point to adding it tbh

So im hoping they give some improvements as well

[fluid sapphire]

i cant even look at that video, my own world is so bland by comparsion xd

[quick hound]

Do I need fluid pumps on a nitrogen pipe?

[fluid sapphire]

no, is gas

[quick hound]

yo answered after I finished placing 3 fluid pumps mother fucker

[glad quest]

will satisfactory ever get a dlc??? a new map could be awesome but obv alot of work so it could be a cool dlc

[gentle lion]

I found a bunch of higher end stuff that I can't even make yet should I dump it for coupons?

[quick hound]

NO.

[gentle lion]

Found a computer , quick wire and some rubber , and heavy modular frames

[fluid sapphire]

can come in handy for research

the frames and computer in particular

[gentle lion]

I went on a trek found 2 crash sites and lots of slugs and some weird creature that spit oht little.Flying bugs

At the mam now using what I can found lots of quartz , caterium and sulfur

[quick hound]

Don’t open your mouth near them.. or keep windex for your visor

[wicked nacelle]

They’ve said they don’t have plans but aren’t ruling it out.

[glad quest]

peak

i hope they do

[whole drum]

I just want a flamethrower that scales dps with fuel quality.

[wicked nacelle]

The i don’t know that I would find a different map that compelling without at least one significant new gameplay mechanic. Like underwater or something

But I’d be down for the same map but some late game challenge modes or something.

[glad quest]

or like factorio where u can go to space and diff planets

[whole drum]

What if they shuffled the resource nodes and randomize the purities?

[frail sleet]

game would be a lot harder, they are manually clustered right now in the quantities and ratios that you need

like starting areas are premade with loads of iron, 1 copper and 1 limestone node

and stuff like blue crater exists with oil, coal, sulfur, nitrogen all there

[leaden turret]

-# coughunspecifiedgamemodein1.2cough

[white dawn]

They've said in the past that they're not necessarily opposed to that as an alternate game mode, so we'll see. As-is, though, the resource node placements (and rarities) were done with quite a bit of thought, so they'd be staying how they are for the "main" game

[whole drum]

Ofc. This would only be intended for veteran players looking for a change/challenge.

[sterile blade]

Are you still reworking or adding new things/plans?

[sonic verge]

how many smelters should I put down with 1 Miner @ 240 iron?

[granite ether]

240/30

[sonic verge]

a manifold im assuming?

[granite ether]

8 smelters

whats a manifold tho?

[white dawn]

The recipe will tell you how much material it requires

[sonic verge]

I was thinking 16 smelters

[leaden turret]

!wikisearch Manifold

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Manifold

[granite ether]

why

[white dawn]

You can either set up a smelter, set its recipe, and read it there, or you can open the codex (using o or n, if you're on PC) and look up the resource. It'll show you the rates that the recipes need

[granite ether]

why does this even work

[white dawn]

It'll be good to get in the habit of looking up those recipes, 'cause you're gonna need to do so all throughout the game

[fluid sapphire]

each smelter can do 30, so math it

[wicked nacelle]

You can always set up
More smelters early if you can upgrade belts and miner later and use them it can help planning for space I guess. I don’t though.

[white dawn]

What happens in a manifold is that at first, the first machine in the line is getting way too much material. But before too long, that machine's internal buffer "fills up" and its feeder belt likely starts to back up. Once that's done, then it's the next machine down the line which is getting too much material. That, too, will back up before too long. Once you've waited long enough, all but the final two machines will have full input buffers, and feeder belts which are nearly always totally full, and the last two machines in the manifold will be getting exactly the amount of material they need (with, probably, nothing much to speak of in their internal buffers)

So long as your initial feeder belt is supplying enough material to supply all the machines in the manifold, it'll just even itself out over time. The only real downside is waiting for the machines to back up so that that happens

(You can bypass the waiting time by pre-filling the input buffers on the machines, though whether that's worth it or not would be up to you. Usually manifolds don't take too long to fill)

[granite ether]

does that mean manifolds are just better than balancers in any situation

[white dawn]

Well, "better" is in the eye of the beholder

Balancer fans generally like seeing exactly the right amount go into the machines right away

But manifolds are indeed much simpler overall. Just one splitter per machine, etc.

[leaden turret]

looks at monster manual
looks at dictionary

um actually

[wicked nacelle]

You’ll make way more progress faster with manifolds.

[granite ether]

dang that makes me sad, ive spent so much time on my factories because of that

[white dawn]

In general most folks will end up doing nearly all manifolds over time, but some folks will continue to balance at least occasionally. :)

[fluid sapphire]

sometimes you still need a balancer, if you are in a situation where your output exceeds what your belts can carry (only for trains really, i think)

[white dawn]

Eh, (nearly) everyone starts out doing balancers. Very common experience. :)

[leaden turret]

#satisfactory-memes message

[white dawn]

Remember that so long as you're having fun, you're playing the game right. Just 'cause someone's got a "more efficient" way of doing something (or whatever) doesn't negate whatever fun you've been having

[granite ether]

been doing that for 150 hours and thought that manifolds only work with liquids

[granite ether]

i guess my fun is just making everything as efficient as possible

[white dawn]

And of course that depends on how exactly you define "efficiency," but that's another topic. :D

[leaden turret]

#satisfactory message

[fluid sapphire]

the resources in a manifold have to go somewhere

[white dawn]

At least you'll be well prepared for if you spin up nuclear and want to keep ambient radiation to a minimum!

[fluid sapphire]

so it makes sense they work

[leaden turret]

[insert central heating joke here]

[granite ether]

not that far in the game

[whole drum]

It's fine to use balancers. Manifolds are just faster/simpler. The concept of balancing matters a little more for pipes, depending on how you're trying to set them up.

[fluid sapphire]

on the contrary, i would say dont try to "balance" pipes

[whole drum]

An obvious example is that if you are trying to feed 3 extractors to 8 coal gens and you are still on mk1 pipes, you can't just put all 3 exts at the start of the system.

At least one has to be at/near the end of that line.

[gentle lion]

Did a bunch of mam research , got the rebar gun,blade runners can scan for a few diff rhings, and I unlocked hypertubes...now to make hype tubea to all my places 1km out...😂 Just need to wait for more material

[granite ether]

thats obvious

[whole drum]

That's what I said, lol

[hard ivy]

that's not balancing

[granite ether]

bruh, didnt notice, mb

[quick hound]

I read that as buttholder ans I was gonna comment on it.. I guess I just did..

[whole drum]

Not in the strictest sense, but in the context of contrast to a manifold, it applies.

[hard ivy]

I don't think you know what a balancer is

[whole drum]

This is a nothing statement at best, a personal attack at worst.

[granite ether]

wouldnt have to do this if i knew manifolding
#screenshots message
#screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

live and learn

[granite ether]

im actually so lucky to learn about this

[whole drum]

That is excessive, lol

[quick hound]

Hi kyo, what should I make for dinner irl?

[azure reef]

can i make a train pick up/deposit two freight cars from the same node in one go

[hard ivy]

that's not balancing either lol

[sterile blade]

This is a properly balanced pipework :D
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558721941410807812/1188931746528514160/Screenshot20231225-20233100000.png?ex=692213f9&is=6920c279&hm=21a535ceb38da6aed72f558cdd3ab4d95b0b6748539a9fc5faf43af8c9d4d1a4&
Choosing where to add input points into a pipe manifold just makes it work, it doesn't quite "turn" it into a balancer/balanced system

[granite ether]

why

[quick hound]

Kyo, what should I make for dinner irl please I need help, I can’t think of anything

[hard ivy]

several reasons. not every output is connected to every output, outputs not equal

[whole drum]

That's why I said it's not balancing in the strictest sense. The concept is applied, though. A manifold is suppose to feed in from just one end. The 3-8 pipe configuration is something like a hybrid.

[hard ivy]

tagiatelle carbonara

[wicked nacelle]

You can put two stations in front of a freight platform and tell it to dock to both

[quick hound]

what?

[wicked nacelle]

But I’m not sure why you would

[azure reef]

true never thought of that lol

[whole drum]

Outputs don't have to be equal. They just need to match whatever the needs of the inputs are.

[hard ivy]

an injected manifold is nowhere close to a balancer

[whole drum]

Agree to disagree then.

[sterile blade]

Manifolds don't have that restriction. "Injection manifolds" are a thing (the "injection point" being mergers or junctions along a manifold)

[azure reef]

i gotta transport 1260 crude oil/min over a pretty long distance so it wont be able to transport all of it

[wicked nacelle]

It’s just two manifolds

[hard ivy]

my previous statement about you not knowing what a balancer is is proven correct yet again

[granite ether]

??? didnt understand the first part, and about the second one, i needed to have my last constructor working at 50%

[whole drum]

Except not. But go ahead and charge that ego up. Has nothing to do with me.

[hard ivy]

a balancer has a very specific definition and properties, and a lot of people call a "balancer" is not one

[granite ether]

can u describe it for me then

[wicked nacelle]

A balancer delivers equal output to each input at exactly the same time.

Every spot you take items off is exactly the same

[granite ether]

each conveyor has to sync with eachother?

[hard ivy]

1. every input connected to every output
2. all inputs have equal priority, all outputs have equal priority
3. the connection have a full belt's capacity

[whole drum]

If you have 2 A machines that output 40/m each and you have 2 B machines that need 30 each and 1 C machine that needs 20, your balancer isn't going to output equally

[quick hound]

Packagers

[whole drum]

It will be balanced tho

(This setup probably would work with a manifold just as well, though)

[primal obsidian]

do i need PCC for anything other then nuclear pasta

[azure reef]

why not just do a fluid freight train, that's a lot of plastic

[green fiber]

theres a single alt that uses PCCs

and its for ||plutonium fuel rods||

[shy mulch]

No plastic needed. Once you make a bunch of containers you can recycle them

[fluid sapphire]

there is another one

[dense violet]

you send the empty containers back to be repackaged

[green fiber]

oh right

[dense violet]

some people prefer to work with solids like that

[azure reef]

true

[green fiber]

turbo pressure

[sterile blade]

Just remember to throw them in the appropriate container, else you might get a fine

[quick hound]

plastic is cheap.

chat, I’m contemplating whether to eat spaghetti with whipped cream

[whole drum]

Yep

[quick hound]

Am I mentally insane for wanting to try this?

[frail sleet]

bring me some

[frail sleet]

dropping out of this convo sorry cause i realised there is way more history and i dont wanna read rn 😄 gl

[quick hound]

reading is for nerds

[whole drum]

You're fine. No worries. People like to get into these weird technical definitions that don't make sense to the context of the game, and are completely unusuable for teaching newer players how things in the game work.

[azure reef]

i still don't really see what the benefit is, is it just because trains hold more packaged oil than just crude oil?

[summer swift]

How did it take me this long to realize you can not only copy buildings with mmb, but that copying a building also copies all settings for it including power cells

[quick hound]

Yes.

[pine patrol]

uranium

[quick hound]

That was for lunch tin

[pine patrol]

damn

[whole drum]

You know you can mouse over a building and Ctrl C to copy its settings too?

[hard ivy]

the context is that people don't know what a balancer is

[dense violet]

you're good forever then, that was several trillion calories you had

[pine patrol]

im admiting you to a mental asylum

[summer swift]

like the copy settings button in the menu?
yeah i seen that before

[pine patrol]

how tf you dont know what a balencer is

[quick hound]

son of a bi-