satisfactory

[ocean frost]

also what's the schedule at the stop

[crude ether]

yeah i fixed that, it's supposed to be unloading. I have the freight platforms but it only loaded the back one

[ocean frost]

is the other platform set to load

[crude ether]

yup both are set to load

[median geyser]

Is your train set to only depart when fully loaded?

[crude ether]

yes or wait 600 seconds but for some reason it's not properly loading the middle train

[median geyser]

Right so as I recently learned, no matter what setting you use, the "or wait" and "and wait" have the same functionality

If you have a timer set longer than 20ish seconds, it will always wait the full duration. In this case, 10mins, between departures

[somber monolith]

Power shards seem easy to automate a lot of when I map it out in satisfactory modeler is it easy in game?

[median geyser]

But besides that, if it is set to only leave when fully loaded, it might also delay loading until the platform you're loading from has enough materials to load said full cart? Ive not made use of fully loadeds before, Ive always just had my trains run whatever is there

[crude ether]

yeah i think youre right. im used to factorio where it will still load the train in the meantime but this seems to wait and does nothing as long as it cant fully fill the train cart

[crude ether]

so you just do one load/unload? wait 20 seconds?

[median geyser]

Correct

I originally had it set to "one load/unload or wait 120 seconds" because I used the train to get between locations as well as for freight. I assumed this would mean "If i can be loaded, load me and I will leave when loaded. If I cannot be loaded for some reason, I will wait 120 seconds and then leave"

In practice and through some testing over a few hours yesterday, I was able to determine that any time you set in that box must be reached before the train can leave, regardless of your settings. It uses and-gate logic, no matter what

[crude ether]

Thanks!

[median geyser]

Best of luck 🙏

[crude ether]

good to know, i assumed the same thing... weird

[median geyser]

Yeah Im not sure if the logic is bugged or if the game just presents the information in the wrong way

[shadow isle]

i got a very important question.
i found lizard doggo near iron and need a name for it
"iron department manager -blank-"
i need a name that maybe relates to iron

[median geyser]

Bolt, obviously

Because at that factory, Bolt manages the production of screws

[shadow isle]

ill note that suggestion

any other?

[feral geyser]

Balto

He deserves our respect forever 🫡

[glass pagoda]

Is the ada using us as a way to speak to ???

No spoilers

[feral geyser]

Technically #story-spoilers but yes

[median geyser]

My assumption thus far has been that when whatever it is connects to us during our contact with the materials, we are forced to speak the words we hear, like a possession. They can also hear what we hear, and so ADA can just speak into our helmet like normal. Is that accurate? If not, don't correct me because spoilers, just a simple no plz ❤️

[glass pagoda]

Does ??? Speak more clearly as time goes on

[exotic nymph]

Does anyone know any good default color combinations for a dessert save game I watched a lot of Yt vids and I saw a lot of people used white i also asked ChatGPT for main color combinations and its suggestions looked so ugly I searched up a lot of Yt vids for default color combinations and couldn’t find any pls help

[wicked nacelle]

Did you post in the design channel like I suggested before?

[tulip tide]

Spoiler: ||not really but their words kinda start to make a little bit of sense after enough of them||

[glass pagoda]

Im early into the game and I think it uses our brain as a form to communicate and they see ada as an artifact. No spoilers

[lapis plume]

How does one rotate a pipeline junction on the x and y axis so the inputs are facing up and down on pc.

[dusty harbor]

twin i dont know if you do 😭

[sonic verge]

anyone know how to open the calculator on xbox?

[shadow isle]

ill name him Bolty

[ornate saffron]

you put a pipe on the horizontal plane you want your juncctionm at then aim the junction at the location along the pipe then rotate. after you get your desired loaction and angle place and delete pipe

[median geyser]

When you attach it to a pipe, you can roll the mousewheel to rotate it to a verticle position. Until you attach it to a pipe, it will rotate horizontally

Beef too fast, damn

[ornate saffron]

there is no quick access by defualt you need to go through menus

[somber monolith]

how can i make this look better? #screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

new keyboard. itching to use it so i can stop making typos lol

[glass pagoda]

You said you like to kill doggos so write "I am a bad person" out of blood

[median geyser]

Chat how do we feel about lynching and public executions? >.>

[ornate saffron]

mnove this to #design-and-architecture ill try to think of some insperation for you

[somber monolith]

but im good?

[lapis plume]

@median geyser and @ornate saffron thank you both that did it

[median geyser]

🙏

[lapis plume]

I was trying to rotate it both using logical means like page up and down and was trying to figure it out for like 15 minutes 🙂

[ornate saffron]

No Problem, you pick up tricks over time. that one can be a pain so i like making a blueprint for quick placement

[median geyser]

#screenshots message Im trying to think more cleanly with my belt lines. This is my first attempt, with a photo reference of what I was doing before. Any advice or tips on how to improve further and/or add interesting design?

[unborn nova]

ive seen alot of people color code stuff

[ocean frost]

what's your goal with clean.

[ornate saffron]

I like it. Personally if I'm building on foundations ai like to use the straight mode. I use curved mode for conveyors traveling across raw undisturbed landscapes. That way the belts curve and form to the landscape

I like i like

[ocean frost]

i do love the offset angles

[median geyser]

Simple, ideally straight, lines. 90 degree turns. Consistent belt heights (if two belts are travelling within 5m of each other, I want to snap them to foundation, or to equal height supports). I want something that is Satisfactory to look at when Im done.

With the titlecard pun complete, I am happy to make use of inefficient paths to adhere to the above. Belt design that is simple to look at and follow at the cost of efficiency is not only acceptable but preferred. I want anyone, even someone who's never played the game before, to be able to look at my belts and instantly understand "That item is going from A to B on X path. Idk why or what it is, but thats what this is doing"

[ocean frost]

It is a little crude but this is what I would try and do,

[ornate saffron]

you get your point across

[ocean frost]

oops,

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1440507881693773965/image.png?ex=691e6902&is=691d1782&hm=c47974cb229202ac9bd71059b4b9d8c0cc786c079623dd6848b6ef06cf4f7b04&

[random garnet]

I’m currently making a factory to make copper goods. I plan to have it produce Wire, copper sheets and circuit boards. Is there anything else copper wise I could have it produce so I can pre plan it out

[ocean frost]

late game copper powder

[reef basin]

generally the suggestion is to not plan ahead, build only what you need now

[random garnet]

But then I’d have to tear down the copper factory and rebuild it?

[reef basin]

no, you just build new factory

[random garnet]

A new copper factory?

[reef basin]

no, new factory for [final product you're doing]

[fleet star]

Don't even tear it down. Just find a new node fr

Just make your old factory produce lower tier parts for storage purposes

[random garnet]

My copper factory im building now I’m going to have produce copper sheets, wires and circuit boards so I guess any future copper stuff will be made at a second copper factory then

[reef basin]

don't centralise like that. Make copper intermediates in factories that need them

[fleet star]

I guarantee you will want to tear that down when you get the late game copper alts 🫠

[reef basin]

or just keep it and use the new alts in new factories

[feral geyser]

these are suggestions

[signal shale]

iron wire lets you avoid needing to belt/train copper for a lot of things, fwiw.

[feral geyser]

play however you like to play, centralize if you want

[rough rock]

hey guys im thinking of making a train dominant base but i'm not too familiar with the trains in this game, any tips/tricks for me to not fuck myself up for the next 30 hours

[coral glacier]

Mmm, delicious circuit boards

[fleet star]

Use a loop system if you're a true beginner, signals might be confusing otherwise

[signal shale]

don't assume trains work the same as in X other game, Satisfactory trains are their own thing

[rough rock]

no i'm familiar with singals thanks to factorio fortunately

[fleet star]

Oh

[coral glacier]

Conveyor everything >:)

[random garnet]

Ima just stick with my plan for having different factory’s for stuff then just having a train take it all to a storage Hub near my main factory

[rough rock]

i love trains

[fleet star]

I love conveying everything sm twin

[rough rock]

if i could i would be a train choo choo

would you be a conveyor though

[fleet star]

Yes

Specifically mark 3 because it's the goat

[rough rock]

thats a solid idea

[coral glacier]

Wormhole

[rough rock]

it really is the sweet spot between early and mid-game

[random garnet]

I’ll just need to figure out how to have the resources from the hub be taken to the main factory to be turned into late game parts but that’s future me problem

[fleet star]

Pure nodes on mk1 miner HATE to see me coming in with the mk3 belt 😈

[rough rock]

in my current playtrough i didn't even bother using mk2 belts, went straight to mk3

[shrewd palm]

path signals go at the entrance to all junctions, blocks go at the exits and spaced along the track (you want at least enough room between each signal for a rellyy big train to fit), 1 engine is enough for 4 cars, and do a proper 2 way system from the start

[reef basin]

good luck with that, you've been warned 🙂

[coral glacier]

Bill, it's been 84 years since you last touched grass.
It calls your name.

[shrewd palm]

never

[coral glacier]

But you must!

[signal shale]

speaking of trains though, if you want to have 2 cargos on a specific train, do you need 2 stations per stop, or could you, say, have caterium as the front station, and quartz as the second car, and just not bother with stations for it when I don't need to on/offload quartz?

[coral glacier]

Concrete isn't the answer to your problems!

[rough rock]

alright and let's say i was planning to make big train intersections, would that be possible like in factorio or would it just be too much?

or just use vertical space to make trains dodge eachother

[random garnet]

I’ll somehow figure out how I want things to go. I mostly plan for this factory to just make extra copper like to be put into storage for when I need them for specific build stuff

[fleet star]

Yeah but you can also have empty platforms to separate out really long trains where some cars do not load or unload for a particular stop

[median geyser]

What logistis options can reasonably match a throughput need of 500 coal/min? Trains obviously, but which other ones?

[coral glacier]

conveyors

[shrewd palm]

i dont know enough about factorio trains to really answer that but theoretically any size junction is possible. 4 way is about as big as you'll realistically need and most of the time it will just be 3 ways

[fleet star]

The humble 2 mk3 belts:

[rough rock]

belts honestly

[plain gate]

drone

[shrewd palm]

there are some people here that make really insane intersections so keeping an eye on #design-and-architecture or #screenshots wouldnt be a bad idea

[plain gate]

yeah grade seperated junctions work fine in this game

[median geyser]

How many drones would be needed to match that throughput?

[signal shale]

"reeasonable" is doing a lot of work in that sentence.

[plain gate]

1 if less than half the map away, otherwise 2 should cut it

[rough rock]

so you would say 4-way intersections are more than enough then

[plain gate]

assuming you fuel with nuclear rods, might be a bit iffy w batteries

[fleet star]

For trains, there's a video on YouTube called smth like Smallest Intersection in Satisfactory that shows you how to make 4way roundabouts

Could help

[rough rock]

lovely

[shrewd palm]

yes. and thats pushing it sometimes ngl

[median geyser]

Obviously, else there will always be that one guy going "just use 800 tractors. You didnt say it had to be a good method"

[rough rock]

alr thanks guys

[glass pagoda]

Guys could someone please help my coal plant is making me very stressed rn

[rough rock]

im all ears

[plain gate]

a full cloverleaf is the max you'll ever need

[median geyser]

I dont have nuke power yet sadly. Currently fueling my drones using the red fuel, forget its name. Between regular and rocket

[glass pagoda]

It's broken

[signal shale]

coal plants should be relieving stress, not adding to it, what's up?

[random garnet]

With Crude oil nodes am I able to split one extractor going into two refineries? Or does one extractor only work for one refiner

[fleet star]

I never do anything other than belt and pipe personally but trains are pretty good

[rough rock]

how

[shrewd palm]

what you can do with a 4 way can be done with a 3 way 90% of the time if you just plan your tracks better

[plain gate]

hmm yeah might be a bit tough, try it out and see haha

[glass pagoda]

After running for 30 hours it randomly stopped without me adding to it

[coral glacier]

But what if you want to intersect 6 lanes? It'd be a Hexa-leaf! Huauhauauhhuauha

[rough rock]

yeah but its not an even number so i prefer not to 😭

[signal shale]

extractors go into pipes, and pipes go into as many machines as you like, albeit only up to the flow rate of the extractor.

[plain gate]

you're hired to the texas DOT

[rough rock]

well then there might've been a coal shortage or water shortage

[shadow isle]

i got terrifying news.. "Iron Department Manager - Bolty" has been lost.. if you seen THIS lizard doggo please contact immidietally :c
atleast CEO Licky is still here

[glass pagoda]

I checked but when I restarted it. The thing shut down after using 9 coal with 91 to spare

[signal shale]

did you turn on a new machine/factory just before it shut down?

[median geyser]

NOT MY BOY ;-;

[glass pagoda]

Nope

[signal shale]

sounds like a water issue, then.

[median geyser]

Its either not getting enough water or youre dealing with large surges of power

[glass pagoda]

Water is completely full and was full when shut down

[rough rock]

maybe your pipes are not pressured, do they run vertically?

[shadow isle]

😭

[glass pagoda]

As flat as possible

[rough rock]

oh were they :/

[fleet star]

Are the pipes load balanced or manifolded

[signal shale]

If it has coal, and has water, then you're facing a power spike.

[median geyser]

Do you currently have 0 draw on your network for some reason?

[glass pagoda]

They are just pipes in a straight line

[median geyser]

Seen a lot of people in the last 24h saying "i shut off all my machines when not in use" 😂

[fleet star]

Like one water extractor to 1 coal plant??

Or are there junctions

[glass pagoda]

1 water to 3 but it's been like that for 20 hours

[rough rock]

Not a coal problem, not a water problem, probably a power grid problem. Did you accidentally cut them off the power grid? Did you check your connections

[fleet star]

Hmm

[glass pagoda]

I'll check

[fleet star]

I'm out of ideas. Must've been the wind

[glass pagoda]

Nope

[rough rock]

Idealy your coal plants should be connected to the miners and the water extractors to be self-sufficient

[glass pagoda]

Alr ill send a photo in #screenshots please help

[median geyser]

There's only 3 points of failure possible. Water flow, coal flow, and power grid. If you are 100% sure they are full on both fuels, the only reason they would stop producing is if the grid dropped to 0. The only reasons that would happen is A) a broken line or B) you tripped your grid and it all shut down

[rough rock]

why are your power plants overclocked

[glass pagoda]

Cuz my power grid is huge

[fleet star]

Wait if each coal generator is taking 120 water you couldn't possibly power 3 of them with one extractor

[rough rock]

but overclocking does eat up more coal and water mind you

[glass pagoda]

Here is my water chunkle

[fleet star]

There's no downside to over clocking them. Coal +water costs are linear to power increases

[rough rock]

yeah but i mean maybe he got his ratios off

[median geyser]

The ss provided shows water tank full

doesnt matter how he did his pipes, its working

Do you have multiple disconnects in your grid?

[glass pagoda]

Check my new screenshot

[median geyser]

Priority switching, etc?

[fleet star]

That could be temporary though. Maybe it experiences outages because the flow isn't enough

[glass pagoda]

Should I add a water tower

[rough rock]

well first of all it doesn''t look connected to any power grid

[median geyser]

There's 0 draw on your machines, thats why they arent running

[glass pagoda]

It's connected to my coal

[median geyser]

If they are connected to the grid, theres a disconnect somewhere down line, youve blown fuses

If you have priority switching, something snapped them off

[fleet star]

It's one water extractor to 3 coal plants. The capacity for pipe mk1 is 300/min of water. There's no way to power three coal plants with one water, or one pipe to talk three

That's 360 water per min

[glass pagoda]

But how has it been somewhat working for 20 hours

Key word somewhat

[median geyser]

A small leak is still a leak

[fleet star]

It probably switches on and off but it would still work ⅚ of the time

[median geyser]

Once one of your genes died, you stopped burning water, so they all filled despite the lacking supply

Making it look like they were all full

[fleet star]

Just put in three water extractors to power the three gens

1:1 is the simplest way

[glass pagoda]

Alr

[sharp basin]

Replacing ALL my early game factories into my new building, doing one factory per pruduct, takes SOME MUCH time! And when I’m done, i’ll still be tier 4! 😲

[fleet star]

Now I'm wondering if partial function could work in other areas. Clearly it doesn't work in power plants because the power might shut off, but the effective rate of production would just be a bit less with not fully supplied factory machines

Could be useful in starting up temp builds

[rough rock]

The factory must grow and be efficient but if you take too much time being efficient it won't grow. Paradoxical 💔

[icy jetty]

but if you don't spend enough time being efficient, it doesn't grow either

[shadow isle]

bolty has been found!
he just went on a stroll

yipppeeeee

[rough rock]

who's bolty

[sharp basin]

It’s efficient based on 120 ore/min at the start of each chain, so relatively, AND YET my countainers are already FULL

[rough rock]

yeah usually that's how it goes

[shadow isle]

also CEO doggo is refusing to move at all, idk why hes ai broke, how do i fix it

[coral glacier]

800 plutonium power plant huge?

:)

[rough rock]

quite small actually

that's like what, 5gw

[fleet star]

Gotta play post game so I can actually justify using nuclear

[coral glacier]

Try 5 TW

[rough rock]

equivalent of 2 coal generators

[fleet star]

I like turbo nitro fuel, sloop, 250%

That's unlimited power right there

[coral glacier]

Ah yes, 5 Teeny Watts 🤣

[rough rock]

hahahahaha

[shadow isle]

how do i unstuck a doggo that just froze in place

[fleet star]

I wonder if save editor could do that

Idk if there's any way to do it in-game tho

Wait, do doggos respawn?

If so I have an idea..

[sharp basin]

Only solution is the Dimensional depot I guess?

[gritty sleet]

My current save I started when 1.0 came out has officially crossed 800 hours...

[fleet star]

More than my total playtime...

I'm close tho

A light 700hrs

On my first save I got to tier 6 in 140 hours, now I'm about to beat the game in like 35. Progression goes crazy

[gritty sleet]

I've never actually beaten the game. I'm at the very end of Tier 8 still. I need to build my nuclear power up, because I don't have enough power left to do nuclear pasta, and I refuse to go the "spam rocket fuel" route.

[full thorn]

Is it worth shipping items from 1000 meters with trains, or is that overkill

[ornate saffron]

many people have used trains for less

[shrewd palm]

do you want to spend a fortune on belts

[feral geyser]

250 m is my limit for long belts most of the time

So a full kilometer is definitely getting something else

[full thorn]

Ok, thanks

[frank narwhal]

anyone else having the problem when using the straight build mode with belts? it's like curved at the end slightly when you extend it too far

[feral geyser]

Usually because the first one isn't exactly grid straight

[shrewd palm]

yeah it can sometimes bug a little bit going around corners

you can fix it by building a short segment in regular or curved mode to straighten it out

[frank narwhal]

weird.. i swear i'm on the grid...

[shrewd palm]

its just a weird bug that happened with 1.1

[cobalt onyx]

I find it turns the pole at the end sometimes when I extend the belt and have to scroll to make it in line again

[frank narwhal]

exactly what i'm seeing

[median geyser]

IS there a way to see how many materials are being stored at a drone port? I can only find the drone's inventory, not how many items are waiting to be loaded

[shrewd palm]

either interact with the drone port or hover over it with the dismantle gun

[rough rock]

if you have too much of an unneeded item you use the item sink, which gives you coupons

[wild hare]

Nah its smarter to make a 75x100 setup of industrial storage containers.

[ocean frost]

I swear you could use the map to look at the contents of a drone port unless it was a mod

[steel kelp]

You can to see what the drone port is holding, but not the inventory of a drone

[frank narwhal]

ok i've noticed it's only when you build a long belt after a turn

[median geyser]

Turns out you cant see the items until you power up port and it is capable to load the drone. Despite this, it will still pack into the inventory of the port

[median geyser]

Its a known issue, supposedly itll be fixed when update 1.2 happens

[frank narwhal]

aight

only noticed it now since i came back to it after a long break

[north summit]

are tractors and trucks good for getting through decently bumpy terrain like the Rocky Desert Cave

I want to get those quartz nodes but dont really want to conveyor pipe them

would rather set up truck system

[ornate saffron]

thats how i got quartz the firs time

[north summit]

fair

i guess i could

[ocean frost]

They should be great, just build a few ramps at the entrance

[rough rock]

yeah i set up like 4 rows of conveyors all the way out, fucking annoying that was

trucks or tractors i recommend for that

[craggy vector]

Yooo just equipped my first pair of blade runners

[ocean frost]

Sweet as it's a game changer

It would be nice if you could use a nuke or something to blow a hole in the roof 😭

[craggy vector]

Yeah, now my slide jumps go much faster

[livid geyser]

Spent about 3 hours exploring, and uh…map is big.

[craggy vector]

Yeah, saw the desert dunes in a let’s game it out video, thought it looked pretty, ran from grass fields to desert dunes with no vehicle cause I suck at the game and it took me like 30 minutes

[livid geyser]

Yeah, I started from up north, and with vertical, collected about 30 spheres, 12 HD, and 17 sloops. It’s ridiculously huge. Now I’m back at the base, and I am going to bed, lmao

[feral geyser]

Is your name just a random string of digits, or does it mean something?

[craggy vector]

You sound pretty good at the game, how necessary are rigor motors after tier 4, got my hard drive scanned and I wanna know

[craggy vector]

I saw someone with a weirdly long name so I wanted to mock them by changing mine but I thought my name was kinda cool so I kept it, just random

[livid geyser]

I’m a console player, so I’m pretty new to this game like you. I’ve just spent more hours in the past few days than I ever did, lmao.

So I still don’t know which recipes or stuff like that is good yet

[craggy vector]

Dang, console player too, what tier are you at

[feral geyser]

Rigor Motor is okay if you already have Oscillators being made, but it significantly increases the footprint of your factory

[livid geyser]

Pretty much finished phase 3, haven’t sent stuff off yet, as wanted to explore and do up factories.

Otherwise I’ll be at tier 7

[feral geyser]

I like the one that uses ECRs

[craggy vector]

So what your saying is if I have oscillators it’s good but it uses up a lot of power, I haven’t unlocked oscillators but I pretty easily could, I haven’t even touched any sort of motor yet so I’m just wondering if I wanna start with a rigor motor or a regular one

[plain crown]

Trying to build a warehouse is hard

[craggy vector]

I’m just about to finish phase 2 tonight, just need to get the easy automated wiring and I’ll be good

[livid geyser]

I will say, my biggest advice as a new player, collect a lot of HD before you move into phase 3, try and unlock alt recipes because the alt recipes open up alot, and it’ll be harder to find useful recipes mid game

[craggy vector]

Scratch that, I JUST finished it

[livid geyser]

lmao, nvm

[plain crown]

Nice

[craggy vector]

I’m picking up what you’re putting down

[plain crown]

I’m still on phase two. Been disassembling my lines a lot.

[charred sandal]

Anyone got a nice BP for 1 nuclear reactor above 6 water extractors?

[craggy vector]

oh lord…… WHAT IS PHASE 3

[craggy vector]

How far are you?

[livid geyser]

It’s oil time baby

[plain crown]

120 smart plates. That’s it.

I do have coal power now

So… that’s something

[craggy vector]

It’s probably just me not caring about them at all but I literally was automating smart plates at all times since after phase one and it still took me days to get it, idk what to say cause I’m new but I feel like you should make like atleast more than one assembler

[plain crown]

Most likely

I’m very new to games like these that I have to force my lizard brain to actually think

[craggy vector]

same, I’m very stubborn and scared to mess up so I’ll be bad at this game forever cause I don’t want to get rid of conveyors and replace them with another material so I’ll never progress

[primal sigil]

mine throws a tantrum if i even think about thinking

so i'm usually putting up with spagettit somewhere

[plain crown]

I know that I can spaghetti my conveyors but it feels better when it’s nice

[primal sigil]

ya, or its the old mind trick, i'll do that later....

🙂

[zenith pecan]

I generally try to avoid spaghetti, generally, I have had a few nightmares in my time.

[plain crown]

Tomorrow I might just toss that to the side so that way I can progress.

[charred sandal]

Theres no half walls?

[zenith pecan]

Half width right?

[charred sandal]

yea

[zenith pecan]

Alas no, I sorely wish for them myself.

[craggy vector]

is there any good use for concrete in tiers 5-6 because I have like 5k right now and my storage is full

[plain crown]

Foundation is all I can think

[zenith pecan]

Concrete can get burned off by the thousands of tons if you go wild with building construction.

[livid geyser]

You’ll use them a lot for foundation at the very least

Also works with steel pipes

[night summit]

What version is the game in? Last time i played awhile ago i had it on experimental

[zenith pecan]

I built a concrete facility for one job, supplying my construction needs because I kept nuking my supply as I built my tunnels 🤣

[livid geyser]

Unlocked few recipes, and leaving like 11 HD alone as the recipes doesn’t seem good atm

[plain crown]

Same but it’s only one miner and constructor for the moment for concrete.

[craggy vector]

Is foundation REALLY necessary?like what exactly would you use it for (no clue because I haven’t used them at all yet

[night summit]

To make a flat surface to build on? So its all neat

[livid geyser]

You don’t have to use them, but it helps with making factories so much better

[plain crown]

Sky factory

[zenith pecan]

If you build heavy that will get overrun big time, my setup produces 1600 concrete per minute feeding into twelve storage cans.

[livid geyser]

Flat surface is great

[primal sigil]

foundations, you'll learn, help keep your conveyor belts and everything all snappy and neat looking, easier too,

[feral jacinth]

Downloaded this game on ps5 as a early birthday present 2 days ago and have 21 hours already, I need to stop playing.

Anyone else or just me.

[craggy vector]

What’s the fun in having a good factory, spaghetti is awesome and even if I tried to make it good I’d fail and quit

[livid geyser]

87 hours and also a console player

[livid geyser]

It’s dopamine rush

[zenith pecan]

Here's a small example of going nuts with foundations #screenshots message

[craggy vector]

I mean not as much as you definitely but I got it like a week ago and I have 31h

[primal sigil]

spagetti is good, but i'm striving for a cleaner look on my current 2nd playthrough

[craggy vector]

That’s actually a beautiful tunnel but I’ll cross that bridge when I cross it or whatever

[feral jacinth]

back in 2017 I was playing Factorio, stuff happened and now same addiction.

[livid geyser]

Consider this. A sky factory.

[craggy vector]

hmmmmm that’s a lot of plates for conveyor belts

[zenith pecan]

No thanks, I build actual tunnels.

[wicked nacelle]

The game literally has warnings about playing too much. It’s not a coincidence.

[livid geyser]

I ain’t there yet, I’m suddenly aware how tricky it’ll be as a console player to make tunnels.

I haven’t even tried doing transports, outside of hypertubes.

[plain crown]

Anyway, good talking with y’all.

[zenith pecan]

Tricky sure, shouldn't be impossible though, here's a primer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc9T_ZlDv68

[wicked nacelle]

More than what is necessary to buffer dimensional depot and the occasional mass local pickup is actually an antipattern. Huge buffers hide production problems until you’re confident and move on. Then they bite you. But you don’t realize it until the effect is often felt way downstream.

[zenith pecan]

Definitely, there's twelve uploaders to boot, ensuring I never overrun my supply again.

[livid geyser]

I’ll give it a watch tomorrow morning.

[wicked nacelle]

As long as they don’t also feed into production lines then whatever but the chances you need one container per uploader seems small

[zenith pecan]

Fair dues, it is just an 89 second introduction rather than a full on guide.

[wicked nacelle]

With lift splitters it’s super easy to just stack up loaders on a container. You’d need more upload capacity than a belt to have too many

[livid geyser]

Oh no, I’m deaf, so I need subtitles. So I’ll focus on that tomorrow morning, my brain is absolutely shattered arm

[craggy vector]

Is it true that crude oil can only be found in the desert? It’s very far from me and I don’t wanna go to Iran and back to have a tiny bit more power

[livid geyser]

Where are you at?

[zenith pecan]

Understandable, also I don't speak in the vid 😄 , just text 👍 , have a good night.

[craggy vector]

The first starting area, I think it’s called grassy fields

[livid geyser]

Should be some oil northwest of grassy area.

[tropic heath]

[can't mod my game] is there a command to set the time of day using debug?

[craggy vector]

Okay thanks, are you talking about the scary purple forest (the less scarier of the two purple forests) with all the alpha stingers

[plain gate]

crude oil is all around the map

[livid geyser]

Nah, if you stick to the coast, you’ll be fine.

[craggy vector]

that’s nice

[plain gate]

there's actually none in the desert...

[ocean frost]

Run them over with a truck

[plain gate]

only a group of shitty nodes at the edge of the big desert

[craggy vector]

I must’ve been thinking that oasis place not the dune desert

[craggy vector]

I’m lowkey forgot to build that

[tropic heath]

you've been hit by
you've been struck by
truck

[craggy vector]

That one meme of Anton ego eating the ratatouille

[livid geyser]

Anyway, sleep time. Have fun y’all, see you in the morning

[ocean frost]

I have a truck loop that does around all of the spider spawns, every so often I go and collect the goods to turn into DNA or Jetpack fuel

[wicked nacelle]

Does it kill then by hitting them?

[ocean frost]

Yep

[wicked nacelle]

Oh. Trains don’t though right?

[ocean frost]

Well I've never tested it

Do rails disable mob spawns?

[fathom shuttle]

Yes

[spark sky]

@solar warren Awe, now I want to know how you were able to do that #screenshots message , it looks amazing.

[solar warren]

flat roof pieces painted copper and chrome

the foundation circle was pulled in 1m so it would fit in the 5x5 blueprinter

[spark sky]

In the 5x5? Wow! I thought it was much bigger than that.

@solar warren Did you see this #screenshots message , I'm doing it in the 6x6 BD.

It would be nice to put a nice roof on it, later (well, on the second part of it).

[solar warren]

that looks pretty cool

here is the base of that battery, the foundations are rotated 2 clicks and pulled in 1m which gives it the funky design
#screenshots message

[random garnet]

I am setting up my train system now.

One of my train (train 1) lines is transporting bulk plastic and rubber to a secondary factory for the plastic to be turned into circuit boards. But I’m wondering if I should also have that train (train 1) pick up made circuit boards and transport that and rubber to the hub or if I should just set up a second train line that simply collects made resources at this factory and drop them at the hub instead

[spark sky]

Thanks, I'll have to try to figure that out. I've been having my own struggles with what I'm building. I had trouble getting the center conveyor centered down the middle of those 8 conveyors.

[solar warren]

nudge is your friend. put a foundation down that is lined up with the ones you want and aim at it, then move it over to the center. ctrl nudge for 1/2m increments

[spark sky]

I just saw a video on YouTube where someone was discussing how trying to return empty containers to a packaging site caused delay problems with his trains, as the trains were unloaded and then had to be loaded (I didn't understand it all, but it sounded like they got unloaded twice when normally they would only be unloaded once).

[ocean frost]

You can add 3 cargo slots to the train 1 rubber 2 plastic 3 circuit boards,

Just make sure you tell the schedule to unload and load the correct items

[random garnet]

But what do I do if I also want plastic to be taken to the hub to be bulk stored?

[spark sky]

That sounds reasonable, probably not what the guy in the video did. I haven't gotten to trains, yet.

[random garnet]

Would It be a good idea to set it up so I have a splitter on the plastic? So it will put half of the unloaded plastic back into a cart on the train which then gets taken to the hub?

[ocean frost]

The good rule is that each segment doesn't share different items

[ocean frost]

No

[random garnet]

So how would I get plastic to be taken to the storage hub aswell

[ocean frost]

You have a train with 2 cargo segments

One for plastic and the other for rubber

Stations can't half load trains with plastic is the problem

[spark sky]

It sounds like he needs 2 trains.

Or a train with 4 cars.

[ocean frost]

One train with 2 cars

You can add more

[spark sky]

I thought he had 3 different items he wanted to move, but wanted the plastic to go two places.

[ocean frost]

One train can unload at multiple stops

[random garnet]

I know trains can unload at multiple stops but I need plastic to go to the copper factory and the storage hub

[ocean frost]

1. Load train
2. Unload at copper 1x
3. Remaining goes to storage
   Go to 1

[random garnet]

So I’d have to rely on the train being unable to unload all the plastic?

[ocean frost]

What do you mean

[ocean frost]

Yes

Or you can add another train

[spark sky]

@ocean frost If you have one train with 2 cars, each having the same cargo, can you empty one car at one stop and the other car at another stop?

[random garnet]

This games such a struggle for my smooth brain

[ocean frost]

Yes, you just add an empty platform

[spark sky]

Ah, I'll try to keep that in mind when I get to trains.

[ocean frost]

Just add another train form plastic to storage to keep it simple

[random garnet]

:8 I wish my brain could comprehend this stuff easier. I don’t even know if I set up my oil factory correctly it’s got two pure crude nodes and two normal and I’m unsure if I can have a extractor fuel two refiners or not

[rain spindle]

Man my base is a complete mess

Now i gotta destroy it and completely rebuild

[real dove]

Anyone here willing to jump into my world sometime and assist me with my train network signals?

[quick hound]

why does the plastic taste like soap

[spark sky]

Where would I make a suggestion (blinking signs, they could simulate blinking lights, too)?

[ocean frost]

To stop your cats from chewing it

[spark sky]

Hah, hah, a "chew, chew train."

[quick hound]

why does the rubber taste like asphalt?

[spark sky]

The real question is: why does everything else taste like chicken?

[quick hound]

I think chicken tastes like turkey and turkey tastes like chicken

[spark sky]

"Doggos roasting on an open fire..."

[gleaming moon]

ew

u might goto hell for that

[spark sky]

Well, at least PETA can't find me on this planet.

[gleaming moon]

there was a study where scientists asked canibals what human meat tasted like and they said chicken

[quick hound]

Some said chicken, some said it tasted like bitter pork. It was described as addictive.

[gleaming moon]

[spark sky]

Hm, I wonder what the scientists tasted like?

[quick hound]

Like bleach

[charred sandal]

I totally thought that my nuclear factory was far enough below my mega factory

🥲

[wicked nacelle]

Time for SCIM 🙂 (if you're on PC)

[quick hound]

Radiation feels good :>

[charred sandal]

wym

[quick hound]

You can feel the tumours growing

[wicked nacelle]

You can just move your megafactory up 🙂

[charred sandal]

Ah. Might try that. Sounds like a lot of work even with that but idk

[wicked nacelle]

set the height filter so that it excludes your nuke stuff then copy and paste what's left

(I'm assuming you can change the height when you paste)

[charred sandal]

Yea i mean it prob works, but theres a lot of work to do with the trains still after that lmao

[ocean frost]

Just turn off radiation

[charred sandal]

Is that something that negates achievements

[quick hound]

Why though? It feels good

[charred sandal]

#screenshots message

[ocean frost]

Bask in the glow

[quick hound]

Atom’s glow is blessed.

[wicked nacelle]

dogmeat disapproves

[ocean frost]

They should introduce lead paint into the game

[quick hound]

YUMMY!

[wicked nacelle]

they did when they released the console version 😛

[quick hound]

hey, what’s this glowing pill thing on the grou~ AAAAAAAAGGGHH

[ocean frost]

What's the problem

[fossil geyser]

Fuel power generators, let's gooooo

[wicked nacelle]

I've decided for my 190832 playthorugh I'm doing no-trains no-drones all vehicle transport. I will force myself to love the truck stop

and if at the end of that I still think they suck the butthole then I won't feel like there's any chance I didn't give them enough of a chance

[quick hound]

okay, but be prepared to do a lot of tire changes because I’m going to eat your tires

[real dove]

I have a LOT of entry and exit points. Every junction is a roundabout for easy transitions. I have one rail that breaks off and goes into separate entries to train stations. I just need help understanding where to place blocks and where to place paths to get all of this to work correctly

[wicked nacelle]

what about a no-nobelisk no-rebar gun palythough?

[quick hound]

How about.. pacifist run, no attacking!

[wicked nacelle]

too late for that 🙂

[quick hound]

How about.. NO COAL POWER!

[wicked nacelle]

it would make collectin gstuff really hard. also too late for that but "only bio power" would be the interesting one.

[quick hound]

I never said you couldn’t use fuel generators, but you aren’t allowed to use coal power.

[wicked nacelle]

yeah I'm saying that's too easy.

[quick hound]

Biofuel until you get nuclear power?

[feral mortar]

hey ppl how are you ALL

[wicked nacelle]

biofuel until you complete the story

probably not QUITE as bad as you'd think since you can sloop multiple stages of power production -- wood -> biofuel -> solid biofuel -- so you get 4x

can fuel generators burn liquid biofuel?

oh and biocoal would be allowed

!wikisearch fuel_generator

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fuel_generator

[quick hound]

Yes

[wicked nacelle]

yeah so ... anything bio-related would be allowed but it has to not come from a miner

[quick hound]

Sounds super interesting! And painful.

[fossil geyser]

I just set up my first fuel power plant and still don't understand the refinery

[wicked nacelle]

weren't you the insanity that was still on biofuel?

[ocean frost]

If you are free a little later I can have a look. Not home at the moment

[fossil geyser]

No? I was the one with eight coal powerplants running mk1 belts

I had coal and water problems

Now I don't

[quick hound]

Challenge, mk1 only! You are only allowed mk1 buildings.

[wicked nacelle]

no.

[quick hound]

DAMN bro shot that down FAST

[wicked nacelle]

oh HELLS no. if nothing else just beacuse it takes so long for anything to get anywhere

[quick hound]

you’d rather use biofuel for an entire playthrough?

[wicked nacelle]

1000% yes

mk1 belts and mk1 poles for a whole playthrough??????

[quick hound]

Okay, you can use mk2 poles

[wicked nacelle]

then it's a BS challenge -- it's the "almost mk1 everything challenge" - no one wants that achievement

[fossil geyser]

I think I'm good on power, producing 1,637 mw, max consumption is 926, and currently consuming 482

[wicked nacelle]

yes, you're extra good. I find that 50% above current consumption is a good number for making my next factory

[quick hound]

I think it’d be funny if someone did a handcrafting only playthrough, and they used a mod to make everything handcraftable

[wicked nacelle]

I have a program that speeds up game time, so maybe then. 50x speed

[fossil geyser]

You make multiple factories?

[wicked nacelle]

it would just be afk simulator though

[fossil geyser]

I just force everything into one spot

[lethal geyser]

That'd be painful

[quick hound]

No foundation playthrough

[wicked nacelle]

oh you mean my first playthrough? 🙂

[quick hound]

Can I create a strangely specific challenge for you to defeat?

[wicked nacelle]

no I've already disqualified you for your mk1 challenge including mk1 power poles

but I'm still a little curious 🙂

[stable prairie]

Sulfur isn't in the smart splitter?

[wicked nacelle]

cat?

!wikisearch smart_splitter

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=smart_splitter

[stable prairie]

I've got a smart splitter system for my tractor transport system

Only issue is that I need to redesign it entirely to accommodate sulfur seeing I can't just add it at the start

[quick hound]

Okay, Biofuel only, maximum mk3, must start your base in a location with only TWO pure nodes inside it. Xeno-taser only, no bombs, rebar gun or rifle. To complete this challenge, complete all phases and connect all uranium nodes to a singular point in the map and place your only hub in the middle. What do you think?

[wicked nacelle]

I don't have any problem with locality of nodes. I don't really understand why I'm connecting all the uranium stuff. mk3 stuff is fine.

[quick hound]

Basically, once you complete the phases, you’re going to complete the save by entering an infinite death loop :>

[wicked nacelle]

oh I see. yeah just don't die until you get iodine filters

oh if you have drop inventory on death then you're f'd

[quick hound]

Is that a good challenge?

[wicked nacelle]

not for me 🙂

actually wait... if I just sink all the uranium then it's probably fine

[quick hound]

Too easy?

[quick hound]

Is it too easy?

[wicked nacelle]

too easy? probably not. Too tedious? absolutely. 😛

a starfield like new game + would be fun though.

[stable prairie]

Wonder if the devs will add sulfur to smart splitters in the patch for consoles

[wicked nacelle]

more fun than starfield, thats for sure

[wicked nacelle]

is it missing?

[quick hound]

If you can prove to me and complete an entire playthrough with mk1only, I will PayPal you $50

[wicked nacelle]

like its just not in the drop down?

[wicked nacelle]

let me tell you what you can do with that $50

O:-D

[stable prairie]

A few things were missing in the smart splitter earlier, and restarting the game fixed it, but it didn't fix it this time

[wicked nacelle]

crazy

[stable prairie]

I now have to rely on the undefined option to properly sort sulfur

[wicked nacelle]

you don't. There is a MUCH better option

ibuypower 🙂

[stable prairie]

What would that option be?

[wicked nacelle]

get a pc 🙂

I don't actually recommend IBP, btw

[stable prairie]

Spending $5040 seems like a reasonable solution

[wicked nacelle]

yes, if you want RAM then it will cost $5040

I want to put my PC back in vertical orientation but I have to find my GPU support so it doesn't crack 😕

turns out wedging your 🐈 under it isn't a good long term solution

[random garnet]

Where is the best location to get crude from?

[stable prairie]

I recommend going as far north as you can go

I've found like 5 pure ones

[wicked nacelle]

yeah north/center is the most oil with another near in the west desert.

[random garnet]

5 pure together?

[stable prairie]

Spread out

But in the general area

[wicked nacelle]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#3;49935;-27832|gameLayer|worldBorder;caves;oilImpure;oilNormal;oilPure;oilWellImpure;oilWellNormal;oilWellPure

some oil requires fracking which unlocks 2 phases (tiers?) later

[random garnet]

Do you have like the cords for them? As I wanna set up a location just purely to drill up the oil then have a train transport the oil closer to me to make into power

[wicked nacelle]

why would you move the oil to make power? just burn it where it is -- and if you have rail you already have a power connection .. from the rail

[random garnet]

I wanna try Utilise all the features the games offering me and transporting liquids is one of them. I just think it would be cool having trains moving oil to be loaded at a oil power plant

[wicked nacelle]

ship nitrogen not oil 🙂

if you REALLY want to ship liquids send some water 🙂

[random garnet]

Nitrogen?

[wicked nacelle]

it's a couple bits later in the game

[random garnet]

A lot of the oil guides I’ve seen people have used trains transporting large amounts of oil further away to day a larger flattened location to have the power plant

That calculator is straight lies

[ocean frost]

Honestly it's a great and unique project

[random garnet]

On the bottom left it says there’s lots of oil nodes including impure nodes but that’s where I have my plastic and rubber mini factory and there’s only 4 nodes there 2 normal and 2 pure?

[rain drum]

The factory cart dupe glitch is gone....

[ocean frost]

Do you mean the beach

[wicked nacelle]

You can do whatever you want. Advice here generally
Follows what is easiest

[random garnet]

It’s like bottom left of the map with mini islands

[random garnet]

I may be making the game more complex for myself but I feel it will be fun in the long run

[ocean frost]

You are just making a robust logistic network

There is beauty in being able to build wherever you want on the map.

[rain spindle]

Man

[random garnet]

Plus I can just claim like more oil nodes from differnt areas and just have all the trains go to the same place dropping off the oil

[rain spindle]

Rebuilding ur world is such a pain when you arent in creative mode with infinite power and flying

😭

[ocean frost]

Just be careful trains don't hold much fluids

Might change in 1.2

[wicked nacelle]

Again you’re fine doing this but there is a LOT of oil at all the large spots. You’ll need hundreds of fuel generators at each site. You’ll need a thousand if you centralize it.

[ocean frost]

Thousands

[wicked nacelle]

That’s not true.

[random garnet]

Might change ina. Good way or bad way

[wicked nacelle]

There is no indication train fluid numbers are changing

[ocean frost]

I personally think in a good way

[random garnet]

Tbh I’d rather have loads in one spot than loads at random spots

[ocean frost]

Play the game your way 🙂

[random garnet]

I like to center differnt things in differnt spots

[ocean frost]

I was just letting you know of some of the speed bumps you will face. But there is something amazing about a build that does one thing at scale for me it was aluminum

[wicked nacelle]

What you’ll find is that you have to process it in batches of 600 since that’s what mk2 pipes move so you’re just doing work to then build the same stuff just somewhere else. But anyhow do what you want 🙂

[random garnet]

Does aluminium Need crude to be made?

[wicked nacelle]

No. Bauxite

Which is a belt through the middle of the map

[ocean frost]

I used petro coke for mine

Honestly petro coke is so underrated

[random garnet]

Oh so I can just use my plastic/ rubber factory which also makes petro coke to be wasted in the sink

Just instead of me sinking it I’ll use it later for aluminium

[ocean frost]

Also fuel

Turbo fuel and rocket fuel

For all of the fuel gens, you need them most of the mid and late game, with an optional transition into uranium

[quick hound]

But those are too tasty to be used in.. bleh.. fuel generators

[feral geyser]

Rocket fuel gens go crazy

Sooo many generators

Fields upon fields of generators

[near thicket]

Trying a new piping setup for coal I'm not crazy that this would work right? One extractor into the first two ending in a junction at the third gen that the other two extractors also connect to, would put the pipe at 270, after the third gen and the other 5 just eat off one straight pipe, right?

https://i.gyazo.com/d381a961b7f6bd410ca74edbb7217196.png Like this

[ocean frost]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Coal-Powered_Generator#/media/File:Coal_Generator_Schematic.png

[near thicket]

I've always done the first one and I don't see what I'm suggesting on there. The second one is close. Would they HAVE to be on the end like that or is what I'm suggesting fine

[quick hound]

Gill! Can I drink some of your oil?

[ocean frost]

this is water sadly

[ocean frost]

do it see how it goes and report back

[quick hound]

gib me oil :<

[feral geyser]

Okay, American

[quick hound]

I’m Canadian

[feral geyser]

Quit appropriating my culture then

[quick hound]

I’m just thirsty

[little shale]

Anyone else finding it hard to move the base to another location and get a fresh start because you're already producing so many things at the base?

[feral geyser]

Don't try moving everything

Just leave the factory there, sink its outputs, and build new elsewhere

You could also leave uploaders there and sink overflows only.

[little shale]

Do you mean the dimensional uploader? It can only deliver 5 stacks of different materials right

[icy jetty]

glitching under the world still a thing?

[south idol]

5 stacks in total... but 240/min per uploader

5 uploaders is a mk 6 conveyor into your inventory, if you have the production capacity to back it up

[wicked vector]

isn't it 60/min

they're 30 without the research and all of the research totals to 100% increase

[south idol]

100% per upgrade

30/60/120/240 per min
1/2/3/4/5 stacks

[wicked vector]

?

i'm looking at them right now

they're 50%, 25%, 12.5%, 6.25%

so actually it's not even 60

[south idol]

take a screenshot and post it in the screenshot channel?

i dont have the game open in front of me, but the "240" is very clear in my memory

[wicked vector]

wait it says 240 at the top of the last upgrade but it says the reward for it is a 6.25% upload speed increase

i think the ui might just be garbage

[south idol]

still, send a screenshot, i wanna see :p

there is a kinda logic to it: 100 / 6.25 = 16; 16 * 15 = 240

[wicked vector]

you're probably right but i'm sure you can understand my confusion here lol

[south idol]

yeah, it's not clear what the % referres to

[wicked vector]

yeah like 30 > 60 is not a 50% increase

[south idol]

it starts at 15

takes 50% of the time

there we go.

[hard ivy]

It refers to the time between item uploads

[wicked vector]

ah, makes sense

[random garnet]

What would you guys say the best recipe for making circuit boards is out of the base recipe and Caterium circuit boards?

[wicked vector]

that's still kind of a janky way to put it but 🤷‍♂️

[ocean frost]

Electrode Circuit Board, you can make it with oil
Silicon Circuit Board, if you have access to quartz

[ocean frost]

whatever you have access to honestly

[random garnet]

I have the electrode circuit board unlocked. Maybe that could be a good idea as then instead of my plan for moving plastic, rubber to my copper plant to make circuit boards thete will change and make my life easier

I have accesses to all the alt recipes for circuit boards

[ocean frost]

I more so meant where you want to build

[wicked vector]

god I hate screws

[random garnet]

I think it’s between caterium circuit board or the electrode one

As the electrode one means I can just make the boards at my plastic/oil plant then have a train with 3 carts transport th to my storage hub instead of an extra stop just to have boards made

Only issue is it’s less per minute 🤔

[hard ivy]

Electrode costs a fuckton of oil

[random garnet]

So it’s not really worth it you’d say?

[near thicket]

I am now of the opinion that the new conveyer belt walls are bad

[hard ivy]

And I don't see a reason to make CBs out of only oil when whatever you use them for cannot be made out of only oil too

[near thicket]

Sure you can place them anywhere on the wall but you can no longer go through them

[remote pasture]

How well does the game run on ps5? Iam so tempted to get it on ps5

[random garnet]

I guess I’ll either stick with making them at my copper factory or I’ll make them at my cTerium factory

[south idol]

fused quickwire -> caterium circuits is nice and easy if you have plastic in the area

[random garnet]

I’m on phase 3 just unlocking trains with aloooooot of stuff built all over like roads etc.

And so far the games running quite well it has a few hiccups here and there and abit laggy but I’m not sure if it’s just my internet playing up

[remote pasture]

So u say its worth it on ps5?

[random garnet]

I mean I’d say so. The controls seem ok and it’s running decent for me.

The only downside to console I’ve seen so far is console can’t use the train horns 😢

[near thicket]

It won't look nearly as good as it CAN on the PC but it's optimized and runs fine on the ps5

Coffeestain aren't bad at programming

[remote pasture]

That settles it then. Iam getting the game for ps5. Gonna be a few weeks though. Need to save up money for it.

[random garnet]

I plan to use trains to move my plastic to wherever I decide to make my circuit boards

[remote pasture]

@random garnet how big is the game on ps5? I mean storage

[peak wasp]

i know you never asked me but its 9.15gb @remote pasture

[random garnet]

Saves me looking lol

[remote pasture]

Oh that is perfect

[blissful agate]

Silicon circuit board is best resource wise but I'd definitely do caterium otherwise for the plastic efficiency

[random garnet]

I’m so torn now as I set up this copper plant MOSTLY to make steamed copper sheets to make circuit boards lol

[blissful agate]

Pipe in a bunch of quickwire and you can make AI limiters and circuit boards

[random garnet]

I mean I have a alt receipt to make sure limiters out of plastic 🤔

So I could knock down two things with caterium wires

[peak wasp]

so if some one knows where did the golf thing originate ? also have the devs teased something that they said they will never add but have ended up adding it ? im asking as im so confused with the yt videos

[wicked vector]

my brain is not working tonight 😢

[coral glacier]

Hamburger

[median geyser]

Is there a way to make the zipline faster? Im currently just jumping near a power pole and left clicking

[small pilot]

As a long time player on PC, I just started on console and having a blast. And I just got cast screw as my first alt, feel like I won the lottery

[hard ivy]

One mouse button requires holding to stay on, the other you can just click once. Might wanna try the other if you're holding right now

And sprinting works too and it does make you faster

[median geyser]

Ty. And is there a way to see a drone's inventory? I can see the docks 2 inventories, incoming and outgoing, but I cant find a way to interact with the drones themselves?

[green fiber]

not really except for hovering over them with the dismantle tool

[icy jetty]

holding shift gives a sig speed boost

[wicked nacelle]

they didn't make the console ports

[wicked nacelle]

yeah same with trains/stations during the docking process

[wicked vector]

is anyone good at math in here

[wicked nacelle]

don't ask to ask just ask

[leaden turret]

#math-and-meta

[wicked nacelle]

and asking here is fine at first -- if it's too much of a long discusison answer/converstaion then move it there

[median geyser]

Is there any easy way of figuring the ratio of coal genes to turbo fuel powered genes?

[south sinew]

is.. that ratio a thing? why would there be a ratio of those things?

[median geyser]

How many of X = Y is a ratio question, is it not?

[south sinew]

yeah, it's just that I don't really get where the equality comes from

are we talking about just power produced?

[median geyser]

That is the unit they deal in

[south sinew]

not.. always

usually you just leave the old coal generators running and don't care what the ratio is

so I'm going to guess that you want to tear down your old coal generators to put the coal into making turbofuel?

[leaden turret]

that's basic division & multiplication?

[south sinew]

so maybe the ratio you should care about is power produced per coal input rather than per generator?

[median geyser]

Ill be downsizing coal to make room for a significant expansion to my oil field, complete with fuel generators. Not eliminating entirely, but I built them relatively close, and in an area where the natural land around me doesnt permit any other option.

So Ill be going from coal to either turbofuel power or rocket fuel power, depending on how miserable rocket is to make and/or if its even gene friendly, Im just now working on unlocking it

Any freed up coal will go into other production processes, possible being shipped elsewhere

[south sinew]

so, usually people go with diluted fuel rather than turbofuel as it's way easier to set up and you can turn diluted fuel into plastic/rubber as well

there's a rocket fuel alt which skips turbofuel which is usually the preferred one

from what I can see it's normally thought that turbofuel just isn't worth the effort

[zenith pecan]

I went with large scale rocket fuel, it can definitely run the whole show until the game falls over.

[wicked nacelle]

you use diluted fuel to MAKE turbofuel to MAKE rocket fuel

it's not one or the other -- it's both

[south sinew]

you can do that, but it's easier to not and use nitro rocket fuel instead

[median geyser]

imean I have lots of coal and sulfur around the same area, so my plan was just to use a combination of all recipes, diluted into turbo, residue into turbo with comp coal, and regular fuel into turbo

[south sinew]

blue crater?

[median geyser]

And then convert the system again when rocket fuel is attained. I do not currently have any alt options available

[median geyser]

The one with a geyser on the middle, south edge of map?

[south sinew]

yeah

[median geyser]

Yup

[south sinew]

it's a good spot for rocket/turbofuel because there's also nitrogen gas close by and plenty of water

[zenith pecan]

I went with nitro, the resulting compact coal byproduct gets fed into a nearby foundry that produces 4800 steel ingots.

[median geyser]

Oil field on north shore, coal and sulfur on south, they cross near the middle

[wicked nacelle]

That's why I love the default turbo/rocket recipes -- it's all self contained - you don't have to do any weird games

[median geyser]

And I have a massive power backup array building covering most of the western half of the crater as well

[south sinew]

so

[zenith pecan]

That's fair, my byproduct steel has taken over from my earlier steel mill so it isn't a loss, just a redirection of production.

I still need to get around to making a replacement alclad plant etc, I took the basic one down, but now I'm on a clock since I have 4 industrial cans full of plates and no production atm 🤣

[wicked nacelle]

I'm not willing to sacrifice both nitrogen and sulfur for "easier" and then have to deal with byproduct that I can't feed back in

[south sinew]

fuel generators are worth more than 3 coal generators, but you also get more fuel generators out of a turbofuel setup than you can power coal generators from some coal nodes

so the generator to generator ratio is not really useful

really the turbofuel setup will produce vastly more power than the coal setup so you just build that up to your desired target

[zenith pecan]

Never remove a spaghetti factory until you have its replacement in place, otherwise you can find yourself without building materials 🙂

[wicked nacelle]

coal power is basically just a holdover until you get fuel generators. Then you should just tear it down and use the coal for better stuff

your fuel generators essentially scale forever from the same oil as you get turbo then rocket fuel

[zenith pecan]

I do need to tear out my old coal, I might just redirect to diamond production.

[median geyser]

Happy to remove it too, Im just not specirically looking to do so. If I need to in order to make room, and its also logical progression, so be it 😂

[zenith pecan]

Not this morning though, I should be going to work in 5m.

[wicked nacelle]

you can never have enough diamonds -- in the max points build, coal is actually the most valuable resource in the game

you actually use converters to make more coal than the map can provide normally

MOAR DIAMONDS!!!

[zenith pecan]

Exactly, I'm using petro diamonds to keep me in depot time crystals, just overproduction from my coke that goes to bauxite processing, the rest, I'll decide down the line.

[wicked nacelle]

I don't get people that use that aluminum alt.

[south sinew]

you don't need to remove it unless you want to re-use those resources, and if you do, you can definitely tear it down (after the new one is done) as the new one will totally outclass the coal power

[zenith pecan]

More ingots, what's not to love, I'm only burning an otherwise spare impure oil well in the swamp.

I do need to revisit that petro facility, I want to get its resin output converted to cloth, not clock > filters.

[remote pasture]

@random garnet renember i said i was gonna have to wait a few weeks before getting the game. Well its changed. I can get it on friday (2 days from now)

[median geyser]

Mhm I know. I dont plan on removing all of it, just any that gets in my way. I dont currently need the coal for anything besides what I siphon for the turbo fuel 🙏

[median geyser]

So I just realized my next progression unlock is nuclear power 😂 Ive not even done a proper fuel setup yet. Should I just wait for that, or is it going to be a misery to set up?

[sterile blade]

People who don't appreciate the complexity of nuclear often stop at Fuel. It can offer a lot of power for relatively little effort (and low complexity in production chains)

[novel heath]

is there a showcase of a super simple nuclear power plant? want to personally try it out but im kinda intimidated by the scope of it lol

[reef basin]

super simple plant is basic recipes and storing uranium waste

[true mulch]

Doesn't nuclear without plutonium work out to be way worse than rocket fuel?

[reef basin]

question is "showcase of simple NPP"

and "worse" is subjective as we know 🙂

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=43C9YuGlaC3QS9OqaJic here's a plan for basic uranium (it's 10/min, but you can change it to whatever you want)

[novel heath]

oh ic i was planning on handling waste as well if i ever touched nuclear power plants

[sharp basin]

So there IS a working duplication glitch. Just found out. Thinking about using it for things like coupons, Mercer Spheres, Somersloops and slugs. 🐌
May be for hardrives too!

[reef basin]

you can store it and you can then later decide to process it further if you want

[sharp basin]

That way I just focus on building and don’t stress about exploration/missing out these fine items.

@reef basin I guess these glitches are patched regularly?

[reef basin]

why are you asking me? 🙂

[sharp basin]

Oh just because I know you have the KNOWLEDGE about the game 😂

[reef basin]

and it may or may not be patched, I mean it's not a competitive game so if you want to cheat, go ahead

idk if they will patch it or not

[random garnet]

I just bought the golden nut statue how do I place it?

[leaden turret]

iirc, like a portable miner

[random garnet]

You can’t place them very well…

[shy mulch]

It takes some practice to be able to place them exactly as you want

[random garnet]

Why did I buy this

[shy mulch]

Cos it's awesome

It's kinda a thing to only buy after you've already bought/unlocked everything else anyway. So no reason not to if you have the coupons

[sterile blade]

Yeah, just look up Sushi Galore on YouTube
||Joke and self-promo disclaimer||

Tbh, you can probably look it up with the exact words you used ^^
I reckon there should be quite some content on that topic

Also, for a first time, it can be handy to just build the production yourself with as few machines as possible (no logistics), starting from one machine processing Uranium, to see how the production actually plays out 😉

Depending on your existing factories and their logistics, making Fuel Rods can be as simple as placing two production lines!

[sturdy mural]

I personally first checked how much fuel i could make with up to 600 uranium per minute
Then i calculated what i need for that amount of fuel
Simple but it can feel intimidating🔥

(I think i settled with 5 fuel for 500 uranium?)

[sterile blade]

Yeah, that's the harder way to run your numbers (for the first time), imo 😆
Starting from oneachine rather than a fixed final output is often easier to wrap your head around the production; then you can just scale it up as you like

[scenic mirage]

ah shit i was plannig for 5 nuclear pasta/min. i just realized thatd need 6000 copper ingot/min. or 64 refineries

still not gonna back down tho

[sturdy mural]

That copper better be pure m8

[scenic mirage]

ofc 🫡

would yall bring all the copper ore to the factory and do the smelting all in one place, or make the ingots by the nodes and then transport to the factory to make the powder

[reef basin]

I would make the factory near nodes I need, if there's no such place, I'd make it near most nodes and ship the rest to it

[sturdy mural]

Same, near the densest ore spot

Or a dedicated place

[scenic mirage]

theres a group of 3 normal nodes, id just have to figure out the last 600 copper

[sturdy mural]

Another normal

[scenic mirage]

ya there just isnt one nearby

[sharp basin]

@reef basin Stupid question but I guess…. if i DO dupe Mercer Spheres and Somersloops, I’ll still get all the story related messages no matter how many of these items I have in my inventory? You probably don’t have the answer to that question, it’s just that I don’t want to miss any of the story, it’s a really cool part of the game.

[reef basin]

I have no idea, idk why you keep asking me

[versed mesa]

👋

[sharp basin]

Sorry bro. I (often) have weird thoughts/questions, I know you know a lot, excuse me if I pinged you specifically.

[reef basin]

just ask the channel then? if I know answer, I can reply, but no reason to ping me with questions if they aren't specifically asked to me (e.g. about something only I can know or answer)

[sharp basin]

Got it. 👍

Since you’re here, just thank you for Tools, I’m using it a lot! ❤️

[steel kelp]

Check dm pls

[umbral sparrow]

At that point why not just add a mod that will allow you to craft spheres and sloops?

[ornate saffron]

Or just use the advanced options to put them in your inventory

[wild lotus]

Can you unload only specific parts from a freight car?

[hard ivy]

You can set filters in the stop settings

[wild lotus]

Also can a freight platform do both load an unload into one freight car, or should I use separate wagons for it?

[hard ivy]

Though mixing items types in a wagon is generally not recommended

[hard ivy]

No, you'd need 2 stations to first unload then load the wagon

[wild lotus]

Where can I find this?

[hard ivy]

In the timetable, settings for a specific stop

[wild lotus]

Oh okay, thanks a lot

Also, is the loading unloading time fixed or varies based on the amount of items to be transferred. And the ascent descent time for drones are fixed right?

[hard ivy]

For trains, loading or unloading always takes the same time - 27 seconds

For drones iirc it's 50 something seconds to land, transfer items, take off

[small pilot]

Been finding that I keep falling out of hyper tubes on the PS5 version

[exotic garnet]

can some one pls help me in #screenshots

[wild lotus]

Okay, one last one: Suppose if I have a freight car partially full with some parts? I can still load new parts into it right?

[haughty torrent]

Quick question, does the water tower trick still work? As in you pump one pipe of fluid up to the desired height then bring it back down and connect it to the system to gain headlight up to the maximum height of the water tower pipe.

[hard ivy]

1. Why would it not work
2. why would you bother using it when you can just use pumps

[haughty torrent]

1: I don't know, it seems like fluids work strangely in this game.
2: I have to pump a lot of fluid and this would make it significantly easier.

[wild lotus]

1. are you extracting enough water?
2. are you sending less or more than 300 water in mk1 pipe?(As it's max flow rate is 300pm)
3. is the head lift enough?

[reef basin]

why post in a channel where we can't write? why not #1038092680493801533 or anything like that

[exotic garnet]

oh sorry

[exotic garnet]

well my pipes ar not going up hill and im using one extractor with mk 1 pipes

[wild lotus]

You are using 10 generators, which. I assume it is 450 water pm. So if you are using only 1 extractor, it ain't gonna be sufficient

[exotic garnet]

i only have 4 active for now not all are on

ok yep seems i can only have 3 generators with one extractor wow

[wild lotus]

Well I had the similar problem before and at the same location, and the problem was I didnt get enough headlift. So you might as well double check on that. And make sure your pipes arent making weird shapes

[wild lotus]

45*3=135, and one extractor produces 120 water pm

[exotic garnet]

oh i did calculate right is just didint take notice that it was above 120 so one can only work for 2 unless i over clock

[wild lotus]

Exactly

[hard ivy]

The standard ratio is 3 water extractors, 2 mk1 pipes and 8 coal generators

[exotic garnet]

il just over clock in next stream

[remote pasture]

Its now confirmed. Iam getti g satisfactory on friday

[exotic garnet]

👏

[swift tulip]

Can we add a water pump gasket for 1997 Tacoma 2.5 as an alternate thing to send in the space elevator

Wood rubber and copper sheet

[chrome oak]

Hello. Is there someone from Turkey?

[remote pasture]

Untill i do get it, i have mh wilds and hd2 and palworld.

[tranquil maple]

Perfect time to do NOTHING else over thanksgiving break!

[remote pasture]

Maby not the only thing. Seeing as i have stuff that is incomming for the 3 other games i just mentoid. So i gotta keep my skills sharp. But i will play satisfactory the most of those games over the break.

[tranquil maple]

No no, I'm telling whats GOING to happen

You will play nothing else for at least 20 hours of gaming life

[leaden turret]

#1201555265942724758

[remote pasture]

I will do my dailies in those games atleast. And nothing can change that

[tranquil maple]

You'll see

[remote pasture]

Atleast let me do my dailies in the other games (takes like an hour or 2) then i can spend the other 10 hours of gaming each day on satisfactory.

[leaden turret]

multiple monitors, play multiple games simultaneously

[silk ocean]

I sometimes do xD

[remote pasture]

Only 1 problem with that

Iam playing on ps5. And i only own 1 monitor.

[leaden turret]

check if tv has picture-in-picture mode for multiple inputs, use multiple consoles

[silk ocean]

Process Explorer -> Suspend, good tip

keeps using the mem ofc, but not much else resources

[remote pasture]

I just ssid i only have 1 monitor/ tv
Ffs satisfactory is allready getting 90% of my daily gaming in the break.

And that is enough

[silk ocean]

Referring to PC land 🙂

[remote pasture]

I did say iam on ps5. Or did u miss that

[silk ocean]

Nope, just writing because there are other PC uses here ya know

Was a general "tip"

Wasn't directed at you in other words

[remote pasture]

Ok

@silk ocean sry if i snappt. Tough day at work today

[nova igloo]

kinda wish ADA gave more insight on the planet, like the PDA in subnutica

[silk ocean]

You didn't snap, it was a perfectly fine point. Sorry it's a hard day!

[remote pasture]

Iam on my way home now. To cook my favorit recepie, then helldivers 2 untill i go to bed.

[silk ocean]

I probably should have made myself more clear and said "while on the subject of running 2 games...."

[remote pasture]

@silk ocean while i got your attention. Any tip for begginers? Or atleast anything i need to know before starting satisfactory on friday.

[silk ocean]

I guess build on foundations as soon as you can (after the starter fac), get the dimensional depot from MAM research as soon as you can, progress research in general asap (helps make things easier in general), and generally just build what you need at the time and worry about expanding in future, try to leave as much space as you can (you can never leave enough).. Amongst many other things xD

Nothing is mandatory in Satisfactory though, if you don't want to do foundations, totally fine too, there's no right or wrong

[remote pasture]

Can you say all this in a more simple way please (sry i got ad-hd)

[mortal ginkgo]

adding to that, dont stay in phase 1 too long. Go phase 2 and get coal. Automate dem power stuff.

[silk ocean]

Build on Foundations
Research Alien Tech Tree for the Dimensional Depot
Generally just make what you need
Progress to Coal as soon as you can to avoid gathering biomass for the burners
+many other things 😉

As Limestone says, once you're on coal with automated power you can kinda relax a bit and maybe go exploring a little

[remote pasture]

Is there any combat in the game (just curious)

[silk ocean]

Yea but you can switch to passive if you prefer

(quite a lot of combat in fact)

[pliant gale]

automatic is smooth
smooth is fast
thats how i do the elevator

[pliant gale]

i hate the fucking red biome

[silk ocean]

automatic is life xD

[silk ocean]

and the swamp XD

[pliant gale]

dont get me started on it 😭

[pliant gale]

3 hours afk for a single item 🔥

[silk ocean]

Yikes XD

[mortal ginkgo]

Listen, that PINK FOREST looked cute.

So I thought it was SAFE. Because it was CUTE.

CUTE = SAFE I THOUGHT.

I WAS WRONG BROTHERMAN

I am NOT going there ever again.

[silk ocean]

It is dangerous, and then just when you think it can't get worse.... nuclear dangerous XD

[pliant gale]

nuclear aint nothing compared to the fucking spores

[silk ocean]

Yea definitely take protection to that place

[pliant gale]

omg how i hate making filters

[silk ocean]

Can be automated at least

[pliant gale]

i forgot my silica farm and was doing that shit by hand

[silk ocean]

Easily done with so many recipes and products

[remote pasture]

Aslong as it dosent destroy tge stuff i build, iam fine with some combat.

[pliant gale]

elevator fase 3 is beating the shit out of me, at least im finishing it

[silk ocean]

They are only out to get you 😉

[pliant gale]

not when ur 1200m away from ur base XD

[red sun]

nah, it's not like factorio. you only really need to engage in combat when you're exploring, and it's not too difficult to dodge attacks

just need to watch out for the elite pricks before you get some decent weapons

[pliant gale]

except the jumping giant spiders, they scare me

[red sun]

I got chased out of the red forest off the cliff one time, I have a recording of it somewhere

it was unreasonably scary

[ornate saffron]

Somehow the cats are worse

[red sun]

oh yeah that's another thing, if you're squeamish with spiders there's an arachnophobia mode which turns them into cat pngs

[remote pasture]

I tried factorio before. I couldent go 5 sec without getting attackt so gave up on it pretty quick

[red sun]

yeah I don't like how involved it is. satisfactory is much more relaxed

[remote pasture]

I think iam gonna turn those spiers completly off

[red sun]

that works too

[dusky dagger]

Is there something such as "Highest cliff speedrun" in Satisfactory ?

[pliant gale]

i just wanted a automation game and now i gotta make a rifle so i can fight for me right of being alive

[hard ivy]

You can disable enemies if you want

[red sun]

or set them to passive or retaliate

you have a lot of freedom there frankly

[clear aspen]

Hello chat

[ornate saffron]

The wildlife aggression settings are not tide to achievements. Feel free to turn them to peaceful if that is the gameplay style you are looking for

[ornate saffron]

If there isn't you can make it

[south sinew]

most automation games seem to involve some combat as a side activity, but it's optional yeah

[dusky dagger]

I have trying right now to see if all jumps are doables without jetpack or parachute, my goal will be to climb the mountain from bottom to top with only blade runners. It seems to have been built for this so I think it can be done

[ornate saffron]

I did a lot of bladerunner and parachute parkour. The parachute gains momentum and height on natural sharp slopes

[pliant gale]

i know that i choose to play that way, but it still make me angry lol

like when i spend 1 whole hour trying to get my itens back

[dusky dagger]

Yes I know this trick with parachute but I wonder if you actually need it for the mountain.

[clear aspen]

How is everyone doing today?

[quick hound]

HELLO INTERNET AND WELCOME TO GAME THEORY! Wait.. this isn’t right..

[atomic forge]

Losing my mind, 6 days til I get the game x_x

[shy mulch]

Get it now?

[atomic forge]

Can't, paycheck's next week

[kind jewel]

Trust me, this is a much better game than the tag you have on your name.

I have that game too

[golden plank]

My friend drove of the map, is there any way we can recover or make it disappear from the kompass?

[atomic forge]

Ik, but tarki's my guilty plwasure

I hate and love it in the sqme time

[hard ivy]

Save editing

[kind jewel]

I'm getting laughs out of the Steam reviews about it though.

[atomic forge]

Typpical slav jank tbh

[clear aspen]

I see a lack of coal tags

[atomic forge]

6 morr days

[hard ivy]

Because it's roblox

[kind jewel]

Why would I support a company that supports pedo's?

[golden plank]

That’s to late… I was afk then, is there any other way?

[hard ivy]

? You can edit the current save file. Just delete or teleport the vehicle. You just have to be on PC because I don't think consoles give access to save files

[golden plank]

I’m on ps5

[hard ivy]

Then you can only hope that the vehicle is reachable with dismantle mode from the edge of the kill zone. Or hypertube yourself through it. Though I'm not sure if that's possible on the bottom one.

You can also check map settings. You can disable vehicles as a category but maybe it's possible to disable just that specific one, idk

[atomic forge]

factorio at home be like (sorry, couldn't resist the joke)

can't wait to make endless lines of trains and trucks

[north summit]

Coal or gem chat

[silk ocean]

How come 6 days xD

[mortal ginkgo]

gem?

[kind jewel]

He said waiting on payday

[silk ocean]

Ah missed that

[kind jewel]

no worries

[silk ocean]

Was thinking away from home or something xD

[north summit]

certified coal post

[real dove]

I'll take you up on that today, coordinate a time with me. I'm EST, I get off work at 2p.m then head home to watch my son and work from home until about 6:30pm today

[prisma wagon]

Morning!

[atomic forge]

waitin on za muney

[honest sleet]

ello!

new player here (a few days in, just got coal up and running yesterday)

i have no organization whatsoever at my base lol (like half of my main factory is a giant clippy mess)

[mystic oriole]

wow, lots of new players, and it's great to see them get to coal stage

[honest sleet]

i can still navigate it tho

[honest sleet]

just got the Explorer this morning

[mystic oriole]

nice

[honest sleet]

great car, kinda impossable to steer

[mystic oriole]

it can be

[kind jewel]

As long as you don't turn into Josh you'll be alright

[honest sleet]

lol i got that refrence

[kind jewel]

lol

[honest sleet]

not gonna do too much clippy magic on mine

[mystic oriole]

still, play the game your way and have fun, there's no wrong way

[honest sleet]

will do alchemy with plastic and oil(or rubber, i don't remember)

bcus there's a little exploit there

[mystic oriole]

lol, my save is an exploit. So yeah, just have fun

[plain gate]

exploit on oil?

[honest sleet]

6 plastic to 12 oil, and 6 oil to 12 plastic

[plain gate]

that's just a recycled loop

[honest sleet]

yea but over time it makes more stuff

kinda broken

[plain gate]

not really...

[mystic oriole]

not as broken as you think

[honest sleet]

it litteraly breaks conservation of energy

or one of those

[mystic oriole]

The blueprints are pretty much an exploit

[honest sleet]

you make matter from literal nothing

[plain gate]

welcome to video games

[honest sleet]

tell me how that's not broken

[mystic oriole]

still costs power to run, and you can sloop it for more resources.

[honest sleet]

yea ok that's valid

[kind jewel]

if you think that's an exploit wait till you see what people do with megaprints

[honest sleet]

oh no

[mystic oriole]

lol, my base runs on miners that are blueprinted, so I can place a miner anywhere and get resources.

[honest sleet]

i'm still working on getting steel online (the only coal deposit i can get to is like a kilometer away and i don't have trains)

[kind jewel]

Ya but you're not putting 4 and 6 miners on one node

[honest sleet]

how tf do you do that

[mystic oriole]

I also run it in the void, and I've got more sloops than what's available than what's on the map

[kind jewel]

remember expoilts?