satisfactory

[white dawn]

The map will provide; resources are plentiful. :)

[dim cradle]

Well if they ban oil usage for power, they sure as heck won't run out

[sharp basin]

I did all the calculations with @wicked nacelle for 16 coal powered plants and 2 mk1 Miners

[granite pike]

I have 4 Normal Coal Nodes close to each other which is near a huge Lake which is where my Other 4 Coal Generators are..

[turbid salmon]

Not Alts, no dismantle, no sinking...

[sharp basin]

That’s EXACTLY where I’m building mine

[dim cradle]

Lol no sinking is where you're getting into sadistic territory

This'll be entertaining

[wicked nacelle]

No coupons sucks

[granite pike]

So I could build 16 Coal Generators on 2 Mk1 Miners not bad..

[dim cradle]

Not only no coupons, can't have any overflow ever

[white dawn]

Yeah, "no alts" and "no sinking" would to me be merely Tedious, not actually enjoyable

[dim cradle]

Convert everything to something.

[wicked nacelle]

I’d rather have the coupons

[turbid salmon]

You can have overflow... Just have to store it...

[white dawn]

"no dismantle" could be amusing if you're streaming or whatever, but I feel like for a personal playthrough you'd find limited enjoyment with that

[sharp basin]

Yeah with 4 Power shards and only 2 normal coal nodes

[dim cradle]

I suppose, better not have any high rate overflow XD

[white dawn]

IMO a more amusing challenge run would be, like, "factory carts only"

[wicked nacelle]

Basically something for your viewers to laugh at you for

[dim cradle]

Then again storage is cheap in this game

[white dawn]

Or yeah, require that all used resources go through a Converter or something. :)

[dim cradle]

and if it's not nuclear waste, it doesn't hurt

[wicked nacelle]

You don’t need to store anything you just back up your production like a normal manifold.

[granite pike]

My Main problem is I have Coal on the Same line going to the Steel Factory as well as 4 Coal Generators which is why I'm trying to decide how many I can Safely put down.. I have 3 Mk1 Coal Miners I think overdrived with I believe 3 Power Cores or whatever its called on 3 of them

[wicked nacelle]

There’s LOTS of coal on the map — it’s easy to move coal power out somewhere remote and just run a single power line out to it

[granite pike]

I know if I did 8 Coal Generators I'd need 3 Water Extractors & at the Moment I have 6 tied together

[wicked nacelle]

And keep your steel line convenient

[dim cradle]

I got lazy and used one 240/min valve leading to two aluminum lines, and didn't realize like an idiot that if one of them gets backed up, that's 120/min just saturating the line for both of them so they both can't make anything. Slavic engineering.

[granite pike]

I have my Electrical Grid tied to everything so thats not my issue..lol

[wicked nacelle]

Careful you’re not trying to flow more than your pipes can handle

[median geyser]

How do water pumps even work? Ive got 8 coal generators, fueled by a lucky pure coal node, and then I built 3 pumps pushing 120m³ each. I then built an array of holding tanks for storage, but down line, Ive got almost no pressure

[granite pike]

What do you mean

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[wicked nacelle]

Pumps are only used to get water to go up vertically. It doesn’t make a slow flow flow faster

[wicked nacelle]

Mk1 pipes can only move 300 water/m and that’s less than 3 extractors worth

[granite pike]

When you build those storages you have to let them fill up completely before pressure is restored but Pumps are used if you are going up hill with water pipes

[dim cradle]

Although apparently if any one section isn't exceeding 300/min, it's still fine

According to that diagram

[wicked nacelle]

So you can combine them on a coal plant water manifold in different spots but if you just put them all together first you will only get 300 no matter how many extractors

[granite pike]

I need to work on getting the Mk2 Pipes..😆

[dim cradle]

Those are a ways away

[wicked nacelle]

That’s after oil so you’re probably a ways away

[sullen gull]

Also be aware that buffers affect headlift.

[wicked nacelle]

Mk1 pipes are fine. Just think of them like a belt that moves 300 per minute. Doesn’t matter if you make 600

[granite pike]

I'm actually on Oil right now.. I unlocked that last night.. I have 2 Oil Extractors too

[turbid salmon]

I'm thinking no alt, dismantle, sink is too grindy... But I'm at a loss for other ideas. I thought a biomass only run but that truly seems grindy.

[wicked nacelle]

Or better just don’t use buffers for anything except train stations

[granite pike]

I also have 2 Tanks before the Coal Generators too

[white dawn]

Factory Carts Only

[sullen gull]

Misinformation. Buffers are fine

[wicked nacelle]

Don’t do that

[wicked nacelle]

They’re fine if you use them correct but they don’t help. They only can hurt

[dim cradle]

Are you going to try to skip fuel gen power, too? It shouldn't be that hard tbh.

[turbid salmon]

Like instead of trains, trucks? Or no belts either?

[wicked nacelle]

You have to use at least some belts

[white dawn]

Correction: buffers are fine if you understand them and build them correctly, but also don't actually provide tangible benefits to factory lines, and make diagnosing pipe problems harder

[sullen gull]

I do agree with the "not helping anything". More for show imo

[turbid salmon]

Well as most of my runs I only use belts... Not sure how to approach a carts only run.

[lapis marsh]

Iron pipe or cast screws?

[sullen gull]

Yeah, what I was basically getting ready to type out after responing to xaxxon 😛

[wicked nacelle]

You’d have to at least belt to a truck station.

[white dawn]

I've always thought it would be fun to require factory carts inbetween individual manifold steps. Want to turn those iron ingots into iron plates over there? Factory Cart Time!

[median geyser]

Right. Tanks are full, all 12 of them, one for each extractor. Then I gave 2 line out and over a small 6m hill to my coal generators. One pump on each. Water flows at a full 300/min at the start of each line, but then when I split those lines into 4, which should break into 75/min, but in practice 2 or 3 are getting like 20units/min

[wicked nacelle]

Cast screws 100%. Iron pipe seems good until you realize how much iron it takes

It’s convenient for a bomb factory or something but not any serious production

[white dawn]

(Though by the same token, you've got like 3x the iron as the second-most-available resource on the map, so who cares if you're iron-inefficient)

[dim cradle]

You're gonna have to be real careful with factory cart trails though, collisions everywhere lmao

[median geyser]

My best thought I can figure is that pipe joints work as splitters and not actual pipes?

[wicked nacelle]

It can easily use all the local iron is the problem

[dim cradle]

Uses iron pipe for serious production >_>

[white dawn]

All depends on scale. :) If you're going for Independency, your individual factory iron needs are pretty likely to stay within bounds

[dim cradle]

Look all I"m gonna say is that it just takes a couple of constructors for iron pipe and that's all it took to get me sold

[turbid salmon]

Yeah, I'm passing on carts... I do another overhaul... but I've done 2x SF+ and one Fexpan. There are a couple new ones, but very few downloads...

[white dawn]

If you're centralizing resource production of something for a whole playthrough, then yeah. :D

[dim cradle]

I think iron pipes is totally fine, never had an issue with too much iron being used. But the desert has a lot of iron

[wicked nacelle]

Local steel production is a core part of independence. And then you need iron to do more stuff to combine with the steel parts. So you have to be doing baby independent factories. It’s trivial to eat a full pure node of pure iron ingots into a small number of iron pipes that isnt enough

[granite pike]

I have good enough power but gonna disconnect the 1 Mk1 Miner & feed it directly to the Factory.. I have 2 Other Coal Miners mk1 going to 4 Coal Miners.. gonna have to Rearrange the area to make 16 of them git where I have them at..

[pliant magnet]

Is it possible to connect a conveyor lift floor hole from the floor of a ceiling to the roof so it can go to the floor above? I see it connects but not sure if it actually works

[dim cradle]

I guess one other benefit is you can just sloop a fully overclocked constructor and also make twice the iron pipes for pretty cheap

[white dawn]

Looks like I made use of Iron Pipe in seven factories on my 1.0 playthrough, including as part of three Elevator part lines (and Turbomotors!)

I'm not arguing that it's not impossible to exhaust local resources in a variety of ways, but there's plenty of circumstances in which the iron-inefficiency of Iron Pipe just isn't an issue

As always, fit the recipes to the factory, etc

[lapis marsh]

So….

[dim cradle]

I also find that you use coal for a heck of a lot of things in this

[lapis marsh]

I’m mainly thinking for a motor factory btw but I’m thinking about what’s better long term

[dim cradle]

maybe just my impression

[sharp basin]

Then why did I see on a video to put my water extractors to 75% with 4 coal generators?

[granite pike]

@wicked nacelle how many Extractors can run 16 Coal Generators at once since I only have mk1 Pipes at the moment

[white dawn]

Because there's a lot of different ways to solve problems in this game?

[wicked nacelle]

Look at the wiki someone linked like 5m ago. The 8:3 ratio is a great approach

[sharp basin]

Yeah I guess 🤣

[white dawn]

(Also rando youtube videos can often give bad advice, though underclocking extractors to 75% for coal gens isn't uncommon, and not a bad idea so long as you've got the room on your local body of water)

[wicked nacelle]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[sharp basin]

I’ll stick with that solution, works just perfectly

[wicked nacelle]

^^^ that wiki page

[granite pike]

Okay, my bad.. I didn't think about 16 is 8 + 8..lol so Need at lease 6 Extractors for 16

[wicked nacelle]

Note how all three water extractors aren’t linked together at the same spot — that’s critical

That keeps the flow at any point in the pipe under 300

[dim cradle]

or you can do 120/150 to 6 coal gens that I do but I'm the only one that does it

[granite pike]

I have 2 Coal Nodes that are normal with mk1 Miners i have them Clocked at a higher level so so they would be enough to keep steady Coal to the Generators?

[white dawn]

Though so long as you do have the room to spare on your body of water, the extractor-@-75% thing really isn't bad, and lets you avoid the piping weirdness altogether

[dim cradle]

My 150/120 avoids pipe weirdness too >.>

[wicked nacelle]

Just do the math. How much coal does one eat then multiply by the number you want to run

[white dawn]

That can make things tighter on some of the lakes which are often used for coal power, but there's far worse suggestions out there

[sharp basin]

Feeding 4 gens!

[dim cradle]

and uses less space

[wicked nacelle]

I got some bad news — the math gets a lot harder in the future so you gotta start doing it yourself when it’s easy 🙂

[granite pike]

Can you overclock the Generators to produce more power or is that just factories

[wicked nacelle]

I mean not a “lot” harder but it sure doesn’t get easier

[wicked nacelle]

You can. It increases their input and their output

[white dawn]

I often find it somewhat amusing that we've got (what I feel are) conflicting bits of advice for pipes, related to coal gens in particular. We're always "make your pipe systems as simple as possible" but then folks' first introductions to piping is generally the 8:3 coal gen thing which is definitely not as simple as it could be

[wicked nacelle]

It doesn’t change the coal efficiency at all

[white dawn]

(I mean, it's not that the usual coal-gen piping recommendations are super-complex or anything, but still; if someone was doing similar things on a 600/min setup they were having problems with, I can guarantee we'd be all "simplify your pipes." :)

[wicked nacelle]

So many people simultaneously want buildings running at 100% so the goals conflict too

[granite pike]

I have considered Overclocking the Coal Generators but I'm wondering if it will be better than making more generators.. I know down the Road I will need to make more for sure..

[dim cradle]

That's why I like the 270m^3 water to 6 coal gens thing, it's as simple as it gets. Hook 2 extractors together, overclock one to 125%, spread the water out. You lose 6.9 MW per set of 6...

I know everyone's gonna do the other thing tho

[wicked nacelle]

Often this early in the game you don’t have enough shards to overclock stuff that you could just build more of. Spend shards on miners where you can’t just build more of them.

[granite pike]

So far I'm using like 600 or so MW I have a maxed capacity of Like 1200 or something like that.. my Power Stuff is using Mk3 Belts

I have over 20 Power Shards on my character too

[dim cradle]

If you just go exploring for hard drives/sloops/mercers for a few hours, you should also come back with like a bajillion slugs

[granite pike]

I been overclocking my Miners since they are still Mk1.. I will eventually get around to updating them to mk2

[wicked nacelle]

It’s true. And if you get enough sloops and find some Sam you can sloop your slugs

Do you need Sam for sloop research? I forget

[granite pike]

What do you mean Sloop your Slugs?

[dim cradle]

I do think you need a little to start it?

But it's not like it's hard to find.

Can look at the tree

[wicked nacelle]

If you process your slugs in a constructor you can sloop it and get 2x the shards. Vs processing them on a crafting bench I mean

[granite pike]

Is there where you turn them into what looks like a power core

[dim cradle]

Actually I think alien tech tree starts out in 3 separate paths.

[wicked nacelle]

Same with making alien dna to sink for coupons. You can sloop two parts of that process to get 4x

[dim cradle]

I'm not sure if finding SAM is necessary

[granite pike]

I used Power Slugs in the Crafter bench in the field

[dim cradle]

But slooping one constructor hooked up to a SAM node and then sinking the output is a great way to get coupons early game

[wicked nacelle]

Once you research sloops do it in a constructor instead 🙂

[dim cradle]

You don't need to worry about it, plenty of slugs out there.

But in the long term, best to do it in a constructor that's slooped.

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah early it’s worth doing it by hand for normal output so you can overclock miners

[dim cradle]

or for anything, it's not like in the long run power shards are even limited so... just do it whenever you need to.

[granite pike]

On the MAM I have all except the very last one for the Power Slugs

[peak wasp]

If I merge 2 mk2 conveyers into a lift then use mk2 conveyers will they bottle neck?

[sullen gull]

Need to research under the Alien technology tree for sloops

[dim cradle]

if those mk2s are at full capacity yeah they will

mk2 lift is like merging it onto one belt

[granite pike]

Oh Thanks for that..

[peak wasp]

Ive got 2 mk1 miners going into a merger then a lift.

Both are sat on normal nodes.

[dim cradle]

well mk2 is 2x mk1 so if the lift is a mk2 it's fine

[peak wasp]

Oh okay

[wicked nacelle]

That’s great if your belts support it. But if you overclock you may be able to get more output if you don’t merge

Run each on a separate belt on 200% overclock setting

[peak wasp]

Either that or ill do 2 lifts instead of 1

[dim cradle]

They'd need to change the mk1s out to mk2s on the miners

Throughout this game your mining is limited by your belts, not your miners

Literal fact of life forever

[peak wasp]

Fair enough

[dim cradle]

(till Mk6)

Except impure nodes, they can't saturate

[wicked nacelle]

Right eventually it evens out but your belts aren’t ever ahead of your miners

In terms of what they’re capable of

Used to be your belts never caught up

[ivory condor]

specifically fully overclocked mk3 miners

those had 1200/min, mk5 belts werent nearly fast enough

[peak wasp]

Im trying to set up a reinforced plate factory. For tier 3

[ivory condor]

that was before 1.0

[dim cradle]

I think I like using stitched plate, till the plastic recipe anyway

[wicked nacelle]

Especially with iron wire stitched plate is great

[feral veldt]

Hello, I am a new player. I just build the Space Elevator and now I am asking myself. Is it normal to think about completely restructure everything? I now need so much more items and everything seems so convoluted

[granite pike]

Where do I find Mycelia?

[white dawn]

It's very common for folks to teardown + rebuild at that stage of the game, yes. Personally I recommend just leaving your current stuff as-is, and building new factories for the new things you're building.

[sullen gull]

Blue Crator area and near any cave

[white dawn]

(ie: just leave your original stuff and don't touch it)

[wicked nacelle]

Mushrooms/coral/dead wood. It’s lots of places

[white dawn]

But you'll be in good company if you do decide to teardown and rebuild. :)

[wicked nacelle]

You can tear down your space elevator and move it trivially. But don’t tear down factory that’s working

[dim cradle]

100% agree with just leaving stuff down and making more stuff personally

[granite pike]

Okay.. just wondering because I'm over here where these Coral like things are

[wicked nacelle]

You can also move your hub.

[wicked nacelle]

Are you chain sawing them?

[feral veldt]

Thank you! So I should go to the next Iron node and just build a new Factory the way I am imagining it right now?

[wicked nacelle]

The pink stringy stuff right?

[white dawn]

Also in caves, fwiw; if you find yourself underground there's almost certainly mycelia about

[half notch]

take a chainsaw to catus too. most anything thats not tree-like

[void moat]

Hi folks, quick question - is SF crossplay? Can I join PS5 session from PC?

[white dawn]

Yep, that's generally how I do it, at least. I like building smaller totally-independent factories for nearly everything

[gleaming drum]

No just Xbox and PlayStation crossplay

[white dawn]

(much later in the game a single "factory" of mine might actually involve several geographically-dispersed "sub-factories" with some logistics inbetween, but I still consider the whole conglomeration one "factory" generally)

Though play however you like, of course! Plenty of folks don't do that and still have a great time

[feral veldt]

Ye its alot right now 😄 just don't want mistakes that ruin the lategame

[gleaming drum]

The only time I tear down and rebuild is right after starting because I don’t have enough concrete and plates for foundations so everything gets built on the ground lol

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, the game can be overwhelming. Once you have fully automated power (available after completing your first Space Elevator delivery) there's literally no "pressure" in the game, so you can take it easy and play at your own pace

[feral veldt]

And when I watched gameplay I saw people build factories with falls and roofs and build them pretty. I don't know if I can do it when I build like I do right now ^^

[white dawn]

And definitely don't worry about early mistakes -- you can always just start building elsewhere. :)

[void moat]

Next question: can we play on the same dedicated server?

[gleaming drum]

Not sure about that but I don’t believe so. Pc has mods that can break consoles game so I believe it’s all pc crossplay or console only

[tiny orbit]

How much health do the big walking whale things give

[white dawn]

I will say that building smaller independent factories (see also: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency) is, IMO, the best way to ensure that earlier mistakes don't come back to bite you later

[tiny orbit]

I’ve been chasing one for ages

A few minutes at this point

And what loot do they drop

[gleaming drum]

A ton and you don’t get anything for killing them

[swift junco]

thank you

[white dawn]

One thing that often ends up overwhelming folks is that they try to keep expanding their original factories as the game progresses, and that can quickly become kind of a nightmare, because your past "mistakes" really do kind of multiply (and on your first playthrough, you really won't have a sense of how to build a factory that "permits" expansion more easily)

[tiny orbit]

Thank you, goodergordon

[white dawn]

But you can still have fun even if that happens

My own first playthrough was a pretty centralized mess of stuff which was kind of hideous (and not at all what I recommend to people asking stuff like this nowadays), but I still had a great time and am still playing the game.

[swift junco]

i just beat phase 2 with a ninghtmare factory that is NOT expandable

[white dawn]

So, like, Having Fun™ is the most important metric, in the end. I'm sure many folks are sick of me constantly mentioning Independency in here, but really just play however you like, so long as it's a good time. :)

[dim cradle]

did someone say centralized mess #screenshots message

[feral veldt]

It looks beautiful

In my head, I wanted to build the "first base" and made other nodes run into it and build it bigger as more stuff comes into it

[white dawn]

That's an extremely common thing for folks to do. :)

[peak wasp]

ANYONE WANNA PLAY

sorry caps

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[peak wasp]

ah

[reef basin]

my personal recommendation would be to not build expandable factories 🤷

[dim cradle]

your factory is always expandable.

There isn't a situation where you couldn't expand it unless you were in a cave I guess

[dim cradle]

even if it's sarcastically that's the first time anyone has ever called it beautiful 😭 🤝 🤗

[feral veldt]

I mean it ❤️

[peak wasp]

drone for working need battery right? i can do an droen prot to trasport battery near other drone port ??

[grim carbon]

how am i supposed to select a milestone when they're all greyed out?

[shy mulch]

it tells you on it why - because you haven't unlocked that phase yet

[grim carbon]

I have an objective on my screen that i don't know what it is or how to get to it

[shy mulch]

which tier are you trying to look at

and what is that objective

[grim carbon]

the padlocked one which is number 3

the objective says to complete phase 2

[shy mulch]

so, complete phase 2 then

[grim carbon]

1*

[shy mulch]

or phase 1 😛

have you built the space elevator

[grim carbon]

how? when i don't know what it is

yes

[shy mulch]

sending the space elevator is how you complete a phase

[grim carbon]

take a look at my screenshot

i don't know what phase 1 is to complete it

[shy mulch]

you definitely built the space elevator?

[grim carbon]

yes i have

[shy mulch]

go to the space elevator and see what it tells you to send

[grim carbon]

oh right

i'm still new to this game

[shy mulch]

50 smart plating, right?

you need to put the 50 smart plating into the space elevator and send it

go up to the space elevator and inspect it, it will open a screen showing you whats there

and some cool animations when you send 🙂

see it?

[uneven edge]

Is it possible to like copy and paste your foundations out upwards for the next floor

[shy mulch]

you can make foundations in a blueprint

but if you've already made them, no

[white dawn]

Yeah, there's that, and also "zoop" build mode, if you're not aware of that (hit "R"), which will let you build up to 10 foundations at a time

Though blueprinted foundations are quicker than zoop

[grim carbon]

i see the objective details

[uneven edge]

How boys the blueprint thing

[grim carbon]

working on it right now

[wicked nacelle]

and MUCH faster to tear down if you make a mistake

[uneven edge]

How big is the blueprint thing

How big can I make it

[wicked nacelle]

4x4x4, 5x5x5, and 6x6x6

[white dawn]

4x4, 5x5, and 6x6 (the last one is a very late-game unlock)

[dusk star]

How to I change the build mode on a controller while placing belts?

[white dawn]

If the controller port is like the PC version, you should have the button reference onscreen in the lower left

[wicked nacelle]

yeah it should give you all the options on the screen for what you can do

[white dawn]

(I don't know offhand, but on PC at least there's a reference which'll tell you the key, though it might require interpreting some icons. :)

[dusk star]

Im asking for my brother

He’s on ps5

[wicked nacelle]

tell him to look at the screen 🙂

[white dawn]

I mean, you can tell him what we just said. :)

[uneven edge]

Ok Ty

[floral trellis]

running a full scale throughput test of my factory. you know youre on the right track when you flip the switch and you half your fps

[shy mulch]

and heat your room

[floral trellis]

oh, my gpu is singing the song of its people alright

[wicked nacelle]

nothing about turning on a factory should impact your fps much.. unless you're way low on CPU to simulate the belts

it wouldn't affect your GPU at all

certainly not halving it

[floral trellis]

im watching 9 t6 belts going full speed here

[wicked nacelle]

Probably cpu bound if you’re having issues.

Geometry instancing is trivial for a GPU and belt speed is irrelevant just the number of items on screen which is constant for belt length

[peak wasp]

how many packaged fuel use the drone?

[white dawn]

Technically the answer depends on how long the route is -- you can get the number yourself ingame, though. Set up a drone route, let it run the route a couple of times, and then the "home" Drone port will have two displays which should be accurate: Round-Trip Time, and Fuel Per Trip

[wicked nacelle]

Depends on path distance but it will tell you in the drone port

[white dawn]

The Drone Port does also have a "fuel per minute" meter, but in my experience that is calculated incorrectly

(though also in my experience it over-reports the fuel per min, so if you use that to gauge your fuel needs, you'll have too much instead of too little, which is better IMO)

[wicked nacelle]

You can also just fly one and see how much fuel it sucks up to start.

That’s the true answer.

[white dawn]

Once the drone's finished a couple of routes, you could save the game and load it in SCIM, too -- SCIM's drone port readout does the per-minute fuel usage math properly

[white dawn]

Ish; the specifics of how the drones consume fuel is actually bizarre

[peak wasp]

oky thanks!

[wicked nacelle]

And it’s maybe per travel minute but they can hover waiting forever

They can’t run out of fuel and crash or whatever

[white dawn]

If there's enough fuel in the input hopper, the first flight of a drone actually consumes far more than it needs

(and if the fuel hopper ever runs low later, it'll eat into that excess to make up the difference if needed)

[wicked nacelle]

Oh. Weird. Okay.

[white dawn]

But the port's fuel-per-trip and round-trip-time numbers should be accurate

[white dawn]

Yeah, it's bizarre

[peak wasp]

andi can use a drone for refuel other drone port?

[white dawn]

SCIM's the easiest way to get an exact number for a route, since you don't have to contend with fuel-per-trip rounding on the ingame display

[plucky flower]

|| nothing here, what an extremely long sentence that contains zero usefull information, I love satisfactory and other games and I would like to get to the new update ASAP. Still kinda uselss tho ||

[wicked nacelle]

In general they don’t use a ton and you can just overproduce the fuel for them and let it backup and only make as needed once the manifold
Fills

[white dawn]

Yeah, for each of my drone sites, I have a dedicated fuel-fetcher drone which grabs stuff from a fuel depot somewhere. That drone will spend most of its time idle at home port waiting to offload, after a few trips to fill all the buffers

[peak wasp]

ok thanks and to do this i nee 1 drone port connect output to input fuel of other drone port ?

[wicked nacelle]

Very common approach. Just siphon off some fuel from your fuel generator site. Make a drone port there but don’t assign a drone with that as its home port. It’s just for other drones to pick up from

[wicked nacelle]

And itself. It needs to fuel itself

[white dawn]

Reference bugs re: the drone-port-reporting weirdness, btw: https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6780c209c10ae65555c7a5ad / https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6780c4b2c10ae65555c7a5af / https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6780c6efc10ae65555c7a5b2

[wicked nacelle]

You can bootstrap it from the same fuel type from dimensional depot but make sure to use same fuel type

Or after it sucks up the fuel remove the other fuel type

[peak wasp]

ahhhh ok i can create a single droen port only for refuel ?

[white dawn]

One other suggestion, btw: for your fuel depot site (whether that's fuel, batteries, rocket fuel, whatever), make sure to have some ISC buffering in front of the fuel-pickup ports. When you spin up a new site, the fuel-fetcher drone will grab a few full droneloads, since it'll be filling up the buffers of the drones at the site, plus the fuel-fetching-drone-port's internal storage. So you don't want a newly-spun-up drone site to starve other established routes of fuel

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah one that’s for other drones to pick up from only.

[white dawn]

I actually tend to split up my drone fuel depots into 2-3 ports, each with their own ISC buffers, and then sort of load-balance my drone sites between them, but that's probably overkill

[wicked nacelle]

You’d need a LOT of drones to not keep up with steady state from one port

[white dawn]

Yeah, more for making sure that new-site spinups don't end up starving anything, but I acknowledge it's almost certainly silly

[wicked nacelle]

I’m usually at rocket fuel by the time I’m droning so it’s quite stack efficient.

[white dawn]

But hey, this way I can consume some more power for free!

[peak wasp]

ok thanks, first time i reach the drones \o/

[wicked nacelle]

also note there is a rare drone bug where they will just freeze mid air and you have to restart the game to fix it

[peak wasp]

lol oky XD

[wicked nacelle]

i have one drone that when it freezes always freezes in the same damn spot. and it's on my nuclear power logistics so I lose half my power when it happens and I don't catch it

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, can be frightening when you see that. I've only seen it once myself. I know Mikael mentioned they've been actively looking into that one; hopefully that'll land on Experimental in the near term

(Though the once I saw it was for a drone that was supporting nuclear power. Hadn't actually activated the NPPs yet, thankfully, but heh)

[wicked nacelle]

I have a ISC of uranium power rods on standby so I just click that on and then can recover normally

[feral veldt]

I have another question. If I have a conveyor belt on the other side of the map. Does it roll across the map regardless of my location? Or is there a maximum render / loading distance?

[wicked nacelle]

and a bunch of offline battery storage, too

[white dawn]

Your whole factory continues to do stuff no matter how far away you are

[mortal nexus]

Im suprised at how good the game runs because like everything is working at the same time

[wicked nacelle]

the rendering stops but the simulation continues -- belts hit your CPU all the time but your GPU only sometimes

[mortal nexus]

Like how did they do that

[white dawn]

Yeah, the optimization is actually really good, though it can sometimes feel like it's not when you start running into your hardware limitations. :D

[wicked nacelle]

I kinda F'd myself when I switched all my oil to packaged fuel. CPU is crying all the time

but I don't have pipe flow problems - but I quit playing because it wasn't fun because it was so bad fps

[white dawn]

They've been steadily optimizing throughout the whole development process

[wicked nacelle]

and overall they've done a great job for a low budget open world game

low budget compared to RDR2, for example.

it's still a real budget game.. .but 7 figure not 9 figure

[feral veldt]

I almost dont want to go to bed xd I want to 🌠 e x p a n d🌠

[zenith pecan]

Considering I've had thousands of hours of gameplay from it, total bargain.

[wicked nacelle]

when 1.2 comes out assuming they make pipes work as most people expect, I'll be moving all my oil back to piped and hopefully fix my CPU issues

but that oil is something like 24 full mk6 belts

but damn if unpackaged liquids don't flow 600/m perfectly every time no messing with weird workarounds

[heavy anvil]

was it ever confirmed if miner mk 3's at 250% not extracting the max was a cpu issue?

[wicked nacelle]

I thought it was a belt issue?

you mean the early 1.0 bug?

[heavy anvil]

did it get patched i feel like its happened in 1.1

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, they fixed that one pretty quick - I don't recall a root cause being mentioned but... may just not have cared

I've not heard of any problems though I do have production issues when I use a third party tool to speed up game time multiplier beyond my CPU abilities

[charred sandal]

There a good way to mass delete stuff? lol...

Like. I kind of want a fresh start, but I dont wanna restart progression...

[wicked nacelle]

SCIM?

[charred sandal]

whats that :3

[wicked nacelle]

are you on PC?

[charred sandal]

Yea

[wicked nacelle]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map in the top right corner in the dashed box upload your save, make modifications, downlaod your save. open the game with the downloaded save

[charred sandal]

You can just delete buildings on that?

[wicked nacelle]

you can build stuff, delete stuff, copy/paste stuff

it's incredible as a tool -- it can even FIX broken saves

[charred sandal]

Aight thx ill try it

[wicked nacelle]

it's a better save game loaders/saver than the game itself

[white dawn]

The one thing I'm aware of was very much a performance issue; I've got quite a potato, and 1200/min manifolds which ran fine in a "clean" AGS savegame would start to lag when copied over into my rather-busy 1.0 world, in which I'd often noticeably dip on FPS

This was long after the initial belt-speed issues on the 1.0 release got patched out

I have not taken the time to try to reproduce that in v1.1, though, so no clue if it got better at that point. It was definitely still there (for me, at least) in 1.0

As I say, my PC's increasingly potatoey; not sure exactly what the cause is but I'd assume just the core handling the main game thread getting too busy

Anecdotally, I also had 1200/min systems which worked great when constructed and then later on in the game (after a lot more building) had started to lag, but that's a less useful datapoint (though at least that one doesn't involve having used SCIM to copy+paste a factory down)

[narrow wraith]

So are we allowed to post server invites?

[barren condor]

is thwere somewhwere for feedback?

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @reef basin

[white dawn]

#1201555265942724758 if you mean multiplayer

[reef basin]

most likely not

[white dawn]

Though I do think that the server guidelines recommend you not post the actual server info publicly, and instead DM the folks you've decided to let in, etc.

[granite pike]

Something tells me that won't work on Xbox will it?

[wicked nacelle]

sorry, that's why I asked if on pc

you have to have access to the save file

the map there is still super useful for finding stuff (especially like cave entrances) but... you can't edit the game

[white dawn]

Ah, I wonder if Anthor (or a contributor) was considering adding console-save support for at least loading. I know there's often TOS-type things which often prohibit that kind of thing on consoles; possible they may want to steer clear of that

(To say nothing of needing shenanigans to even get to the saves in the first place)

[wicked nacelle]

aren't those environments locked down similar to like an iphone app?

[austere wyvern]

Tier 8, Turbofuel vs Rocket Fuel for power

[wicked nacelle]

eventually rocket fuel but turbo is good until then

[white dawn]

Yeah; I know that stuff like savegames is a bit easier to get to on one versus the other, though I don't remember which

If you're in Tier 8 and don't mind Fuel Gen Spam For Days, Rocket for sure

Rocket's a pretty remarkable leap ahead of Turbo in terms of power output

[reef basin]

diluted fuel into nuclear

[wicked nacelle]

RIP my prawn suit just fell into the void 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁

[charred sandal]

Is there a way to make sloped rail BPs auto connect?

[austere wyvern]

Ngl I am not yet degenerate enough to deal with nuclear waste...

[reef basin]

then store it 🙂

[white dawn]

Nah, degenerate matter only shows up in collapsed stars

[austere wyvern]

If I do that, do Not look under my map lmao, all you'll see is storage containers

[reef basin]

why under? 🤔

[austere wyvern]

Cuz it's the best place to hide it

[reef basin]

up in the sky is imo better, it's farther

[spice vector]

What do I do after setting up the space elevator

[austere wyvern]

I already have all my batteries down there lol

[reef basin]

do you mean power storages?

[wicked nacelle]

eventually you have to feed it the parts that it wants that are special parts (mostly) just for the elevator. That unlocks the next set of.. unlocks.. in the HUB

[austere wyvern]

Ye

Also, how much sulfur do I need for 600/m of crude to rocket fuel

[wicked nacelle]

!wikisearch rocket_fuel

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=rocket_fuel

[wicked nacelle]

it's all in there

[ornate saffron]

1600 assuming you are using Nitro Rocket fuel

[wicked nacelle]

no, it depends what alts you're using

also depends how you're making fuel

but hopefully you'd be using a diluted fuel recipe

also, base rocket fuel recipe is best rocket fuel 🙂

[austere wyvern]

Turbo blend fuel, diluted fuel. Heavy oil residue, nitro rocket fuel

Also I hope fluid trains get buffed in 1.2

[wicked nacelle]

nothing pointing to that that I've seen

a fluid truck and hopefully sane fluid physics

[austere wyvern]

Sane fluid physics would be the best lol

[reef basin]

why would they need a buff? 🤔

[wicked nacelle]

I agree. I wouldn't mind a complex fluid simulation if the information were exposed to the user and tools existed to deal with the idiosyncracities (??) but the current system is yucky

[wicked nacelle]

presumably since packaged gas is so much more efficient.

[austere wyvern]

Bro they transport so little, it's more worth it to pipe all the way

Or package

[dense violet]

thats a subjective opinion
and packaged works to be about the same since you need to bring hte empties back

besides packaged gas of course.
but the main reason to package gas is gas don't like buffers

[wicked nacelle]

as opposed to an "objective opinion"?

[austere wyvern]

I'm probably going to start working on better aluminum production and then work on rocket fuel

[glacial geyser]

hi is it normal that sometimes my walls go transparent when i face exactly in north west east or south? already verified the files

[wicked nacelle]

it's a bug but it's not entirely unheard of no

[glacial geyser]

is there a way to fix it?

[wicked nacelle]

I don't know a fix per se. reinstall graphics drivers, delete upipeline cache... the usual I guess

@spice patio you around?

[glacial geyser]

okay then i guess my walls will turn into windows randomly

[true mulch]

make a #1038092680493801533 post and list your PC specs and what you've done to try to fix it

[glacial geyser]

okay thanks

[reef basin]

packaging is practically equal

[reef basin]

they transport enough. Main advantage is needing just single train to transport any number of "pipes" worth of fluids

[sturdy mural]

mixed trains: 💀

[dense violet]

mixed trains are fine if you build them right

[glass pagoda]

Hello

[quick hound]

I still think it’s really funny how they use Josh from LGIO’s save to fix bugs and optimize the game

[wary field]

tbf he was intentionally trying to break it

[leaden turret]

BLAndrew575's saves cause more bugs 😛

[crimson lantern]

Uhhhh

My game appears to be updating

[quick hound]

I want to see him break the game so hard that it’s virtually unplayable.

[wicked nacelle]

what platfom?

[crimson lantern]

Anything interesting in the update?

[wary field]

lmao

[crimson lantern]

PS5

[quick hound]

So hard that it runs at 1 fps no matter where he goes.

[wary field]

but tbf i zhink building a very dedicated to zhe bit MGS3 ladder climb doesnt match his chaos

[glass pagoda]

Would you rather fight 50 crawler sized hogs or fight 5 radioactive cliff hogs

No nukes

No bombs

Just with a xeno basher

[quick hound]

I wonder if it’s even possible to build up to the space elevator

[hard stump]

Sucks the update didn’t hit cuz now who knows when it will hit 🙁

[glass pagoda]

Ask let's game it out

He built a train system in the void

[quick hound]

oh hi eminent

[quick hound]

#HOG

[glass pagoda]

Speaking of hogs answer the question or face the flying hog

[quick hound]

If he can build to hell, he can build to heaven, that’s your thought process right?

[glass pagoda]

Ye

[south idol]

hey @unkempt blade - I made a 900pm SAM factory cart conveyor 😄

[wary field]

to zhe space station itself yes

to zhe actual station in zhe sky no

[south idol]

need to jump from 25 carts to 30 to get the full 1200

[wary field]

zheres a killbox at 2km

[quick hound]

Awww..

[glass pagoda]

Would you rather fight 50 crawler sized hogs or fight 5 radioactive cliff hogs with just a xeno basher

[quick hound]

I’d rather eat the bombs cuz yummy

[glass pagoda]

Yay

[south idol]

first one, single cluster bomb no?

[wary field]

anyways i am gonna make zhe ladder climb go from to zhe hurtbox to a 3 minute climb like in MGS3

[glass pagoda]

No

[south idol]

oh, it was ambiguous, both are with a xeno basher

[wary field]

I AM DEDICATED TO ZHE BIT

[shy mulch]

Why do you replace every T with a Z when writing? It's weird

[wary field]

why do you look like you were in a room wizhout atmosphere

[quick hound]

paragraph incoming

Nvm

[leaden turret]

¶

[shy mulch]

Instead of answering the question you try to insult... Badly. I see

[wary field]

i type how i want and its just a text replacer

[quick hound]

you pretending to be German or smth? (Curious, not insultin’)

[wary field]

nah

[jade heart]

No Germans would replace T with ch

It's just their accent

[wary field]

ch aint even zhe zhing

anyways

[shy mulch]

I'm just gonna block this trainwreck

[wary field]

i must commit to zhe bit of zhe MGS3 ladder climb

[jade heart]

Fuck you

I was talking to waslst

[crimson lantern]

What was in the update for PS5?

[quick hound]

NOW PRESENTING THE MAGIC-TASTICAL BACKFLIPPING RUBBER DUCK! THAT SPITS FIRE!

[leaden turret]

• Be kind and respectful to others.
• Don't go too crazy with the inappropriate language, this is a SFW server.
#rules

[leaden turret]

@crimson lantern this, probably

[wary field]

AGH MY LAST AUTOSAVE WAS 10 MINUTES AGO

i gotta climb back up now to find zhe 3 minute point

[jade heart]

Damn I already got it

The update

[wary field]

what a zhrill

[jade heart]

I should change my pfp since I'm not into HH anymore

[quick hound]

wHAT? into the void with you!

[wary field]

INTO ZHE VOID

[jade heart]

Nah

[wary field]

aw

[feral geyser]

Everyone knows we only watch that show for Loona

[quick hound]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-gif-20327562

[quick hound]

Wrong show

[feral geyser]

Same difference

I don't watch either one

[quick hound]

Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are different things

[feral geyser]

All I know is dog girl = 🥵

[jade heart]

OMG @quick hound THAT WAS AMAZING

[quick hound]

.

?

[wary field]

zhats helluva boss

[tranquil willow]

What does EOS stand for that was referred to in the announcement?

[wary field]

anyways im back at zhe 3 minute mark of zhe ladder climb so i gotta dismantle everyzhing above zhis

[glass pagoda]

Why did you tell me bombs taste good 🙁 #satisfactory-memes message

[feral geyser]

Already been corrected

Point still stands

[glass pagoda]

🙁

[jade heart]

I changed my pfp and name

Do ya like it? 😉

[sharp basin]

@wicked nacelle So I managed to bring my 600 MW from my coal-powered plant to my shitty base in the Hills, at least everything’s working again! No more Biomass burner filling and chainsawing the world! Next: make my coal-powered factory produce double (1200 MW) and start REAL production somewhere, with factories both fonctional AND beautiful.

[wicked nacelle]

that's awesome! Nice job

[jade heart]

Do you have mk 2 pipes

[wicked nacelle]

that's oil tier. he's still on coal tier

[jade heart]

Oh damn

I'm at oil tier

Does anyone play on Xbox?

I want someone to help me redesign my base

[wary field]

modded gaming

[sharp basin]

@wicked nacelle Don’t understand why but 2/4 of my water extractor’s tanks weren’t filling up with water (with the 4 at 75%), but it’s working with 2 at 75% and 2 at 100%.

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[wary field]

im over here wizh like 2 turbine halls wizh refined power

[sharp basin]

Nop, not yet, tier 3

[wicked nacelle]

seriously, Do. Not. Use. Fluid. Buffers. (except at train stations)

fluid buffers do not act like you'd think they would and they don't fix any problems but they can CAUSE problems if you don't fully understand their mechanics

[stray field]

How do I like merge pipes and the water to flow in the right direction? I don't have a valve

[sharp basin]

Didn’t buff! Just debuffed!

[reef basin]

never use valves anyway

[wicked nacelle]

water always goes where it's needed you don't have to worry about direction

[stray field]

So if I have a pipe junction and connect it to 2 other pipes will it flow in the right direction or would it js flow randomly?

[green fiber]

the sources fill the pipes and the water goes where theres less water.

[wicked nacelle]

fluids want to flow towards consumers

[stray field]

Ohhh

Okay thanks

[green fiber]

since the 2 other pipes will practically always be more full, it goes to the one pipe that lead to consumers

[sharp basin]

@wicked nacelle Got 4 water extractors and 8 coal-powered generators. 75+75+100+100 =350%, I don’t need ALL my water extractors to work at 100%. Just what I’m saying.

[wicked nacelle]

when you match consumption to production exactly then it just sits wherever it is. This is the same thing that happened with your coal burners not filling with coal.

if you put $1 in your empty wallet and I take $1 out of your wallet, how long before you have $10 in your wallet?

never

[tribal ingot]

can you combine eletricity producers? or will it blow a fuse?

[wicked nacelle]

if you put $2 in for every $1 I take out if will fill up eventually

[wicked nacelle]

electricity in this game is SUPER simplified/dumbed down. You can run everything over any wire

the only thing that causes failure is using more than you have available instantaneously

[lethal wave]

why not have them all maxed out than than have the coal gens to complement the water production? before i switched over to thermal gens and 12 full gens on rocket full, i had a minimum of 12 coal gens

[sharp basin]

I tried waiting and closing some coal-powered generators to try and refill my tanks, like I did with coal. With all 4 tanks at 75%, didn’t work.

[lethal wave]

theres a mod for that

[stray field]

How do I get rid of boulders on coal nodes?

[quiet dagger]

got the game the day it came out on console and have 30 hours already it's so good 🥹 ✌️

[lethal wave]

nobs

[wicked nacelle]

yeah it would have. but honestly, the solution is to stop caring about the internal buffers of yoru buildings.. They're running at the expected rate (100%) so you're done

[lethal wave]

explodsives

[stray field]

How do I unlock it? When?

[lethal wave]

mad with black powder and steal pipe

[sharp basin]

They are.

[wicked nacelle]

build a MAM and then look in the sulfur tree

[stray field]

K thanks

[bitter lodge]

so I am debating replaying satsifactory. Idk if I want to attempt to replay my old world or start a new. Last time I played was like mid june (right after 1.1 update)
need some advice on what to do

[quick hound]

It’s so delicious, kind of like spicy ramen

[wicked nacelle]

yep, so don't worry about the internal water buffer nubmers

[feral geyser]

Do you know where a sulfur vein is nearby?

[wicked nacelle]

it's the same game so pick a personal challenge that sounds interesting and start over

[stray field]

Yeah I found one when exploring not too long ago

[sharp basin]

Just because it’s working that way. I’ll try 100% on all tanks though!

[lethal wave]

where are you located?

[crimson lantern]

How tame lizard doggo?

[bitter lodge]

I never even beaten the game once xD

[wicked nacelle]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map here's a map you can use to show whatever resource types you want. Click the "resource nodes" tab then click on the 3 sulfur node options

[wicked nacelle]

oh well then why not beat your old save?

[feral geyser]

Oh i don't need the help

[feral geyser]

I was offering to guide him to one

[bitter lodge]

Cause I am worried I don't remember anything

[sharp basin]

It’s just that I NEED everything to work PERFECTLY. You probably understand. ☺️

[pine patrol]

#screenshots message Randomly opened the boom box menu while playing the goat sim track why was i just insulted 😭

[wicked nacelle]

oopsies 🙂

[hazy birch]

Got to loveeee power issues

[wicked nacelle]

it is working perfectly.

[feral geyser]

Lol

[sharp basin]

Yep.

[feral geyser]

Throw on the Sanctum 2 soundtrack

[quick hound]

You’re the kind of person who’d spent 500vhours on a single machine.

[sharp basin]

Pretty much. And we didn’t talk about design.

[stray field]

Where is the sulphur one on the mam?
I only got alien megafauna
Alien technology
Caterium
Nutrients
Power slugs
And quartz

[jade heart]

You have to mine up sulfur for it to appear

[feral geyser]

You gotta collect some sulfur first

[pine patrol]

alr

just finished the goat sim track anyways i think

i did

[feral geyser]

"Stellar" = 🤌 😘

[pine patrol]

Startin off with a banger i like this

[hazy birch]

I’ve fixed my power issues for the moment anyway finally got coal power self sustained

[feral geyser]

If you never played it, get the game too, it is solid

[pine patrol]

maybe

[wary field]

like snake?

[feral geyser]

No

[wary field]

damn

[pine patrol]

i hate that the chainsaw cant run on fuel

[quiet dagger]

how many hours should it take to complete phase 2 for a new player

[pine patrol]

why?

[shy mulch]

between an hour and a few months

[quiet dagger]

just wanted to know

[shy mulch]

depends on your play style

[quiet dagger]

i got the game recently

i've done the smart plates already

[pine patrol]

yeah it really depends on what the player does there isnt a pace despite how much ada insults your time

[quiet dagger]

i have 30 hours since the 4th and i mainly focus on just making as much as possible

albeit a lot of that time is me being afk getting materials

[shy mulch]

no need to afk anything

if you need to wait for something to be produced, then you could be doing something else in the meantime

[quiet dagger]

i built a race course already

[quiet dagger]

school work

[pine patrol]

i mainly focus on doing the phase but since completing phase 3 i am gonna branch out mainly bc tf is half the shit in phase four 😭

[quiet dagger]

i'm just gonna try complete stage 2 tomorrow

i think i could

[midnight forge]

what is this patch for

[reef basin]

which patch

[midnight forge]

the one that just dropped

on console i should say

[wicked nacelle]

Console network issues I think

[dense violet]

#announcements

[pine patrol]

ada just called me flat tf does this mean

[wicked nacelle]

Did you get hit by a truck?

[pine patrol]

no 😭

ill link to to sum its a semi spoiler

[wicked nacelle]

Spoilers aren’t really a huge deal in this game. Spoiler.

[pine patrol]

#story-spoilers message spoiler link dont click unless you have gotten most/all mercer sphere dialoge

[craggy vector]

Took me like a few hours

Nevermind I thought you said tier 2

[crimson lantern]

Alternate Basic Iron Ingot or Alternate Iron Alloy Ingot?

Honestly not sure what the different is

[pine patrol]

you gotta say rhe recipe and units per minute

[quick hound]

One tastes good and the other tastes better

[pine patrol]

ig that works 😭

[crimson lantern]

Basic iron ingots, 5 iron ore and 8 limestone

Iron Alloy Ingots 8 iron ore and 2 copper ore

[pine patrol]

and the units per minute?

[quick hound]

Definitely number 2

[pine patrol]

yeah so far the

2nd

bc its just cheaper

especially in early game

[quick hound]

Concrete when mixed with water is too tasty to be used for ingots

[crimson lantern]

Basic Iron ingots = 50per min

Iron Alloy Ingot = 75 per min

[pine patrol]

by far 2nd

[crimson lantern]

Okie dokie, will get alloy

Ta

[quick hound]

You want some concrete water?

[pine patrol]

Limestone is much rarer in early game

late game i have a pile of 3 industrial crates filled to the brim with concrete gathering dust

[quick hound]

LETS FEAST!

[pine patrol]

late game feels wrong to say where im at even tho im on phase 4 😭

[quick hound]

Concrete pale berry smoothies are yummy 🤤

[pine patrol]

tru

[quick hound]

And if we blend up our dead clones then we get a real treat :>

[pine patrol]

half of mine are laying near uranium for extra flavor

[quick hound]

Yummy!!!

[wicked nacelle]

@sharp basin you kickin' ass?

[reef basin]

depends on situation, like always

[wicked nacelle]

hold them both so you don't get them from other hard drives

[sharp basin]

I always forget I can use the Crafting Bench for the small things I need…. Steel ingots? Who needs a factory? Just got 900.

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, if you find a SAM deposit make sure you do the dimensional storage research

[fossil rampart]

Is it normal to play for 10 hours straight?

[nocturne orbit]

@median atlas grow up

[sharp basin]

Quietly. Unlocking stuff. Give my machines some time to fill up. Preparing myself to double my coal-powered factory to 1200 MW. Then I’ll think of HOW i wanna build my factories. Like, aesthetically.

[wicked nacelle]

make sure you explore too. the dimensional depot in the alien technology tree is game changing

[sharp basin]

Yeah I’ll keep that in mind!

@wicked nacelle Don’t know why cuz it’s probably bullshit but I wanna try that buggy. See if that can make exploration faster and cooler.

[wicked nacelle]

yeah try it 🙂 then come back and tell me what you thought of it 😉

[sharp basin]

Got the feeling it won’t be so cool

[wicked nacelle]

it's just frustrating.

[sharp basin]

But with good fuel?

[wicked nacelle]

There are areas of the map that are clear and you can use them like roads... but if you go off of them it's hard to keep your tires on the ground

the fuel isn't the problem its' that most of the map isn't conducive to vehicle use

[sharp basin]

OK got it. I’ll give it a try. Or I don’t know. BUILD ROADS.

[wicked nacelle]

yes, you can do that though it's a lot of effort for limited rewards and trains don't need roads per se.

[rose saffron]

my lizard dog just found a nuke nobelisk

[wicked nacelle]

you should send him to go fetch it 🙂

[rose saffron]

true...

[sharp basin]

Finally got the DETONATOR

[wicked nacelle]

that unlocks a ton of new exploration stuff you can do

all the stuff that spews poison gas can be blowed up as well as the big cracked boulder looking things

[exotic needle]

Got a question for you kings... Just started up my first diluted fuel/heavy oil residue alt recipie power plant. I set up the plant by the oil nodes due to the size needed, and I am transporting water from water near my coal factory in the form of packaged water by train. The factory produces the diluted fuel, unpackages the fuel for use and the empty canisters are sent back to the water facility via the same train. This causes several issues, all of which I have solved except one: The unpackager facility produces 960 empty canisters/min split between two mk4 lines (the max of each). During the unloading/loading phase of the train, the conveyers stop so the last couple packagers in the manifold get clogged with empty canisters. Since the belts are maxed the canisters stay in the packagers. I would like to keep the already produced canisters in a loop so I dont have to constantly make more. I have thought of a couple ways to solve this:

1. Deliver the water as liquid to the facility and add the packager line there (which I dont really want to do because I already built the facility by the water)

2. Have mk5 lines going into the train to help with the overproduction of empty canisters (I dont)

3. Add a smart splitter on each mk4 line for overflow and loop this conveyer to the water packager facility > I have this in place for the meantime until I get mk5 belts. Any other solutions I havent thought of?

[sharp basin]

100 Nobelisks should be enough for now

[wicked nacelle]

for now 🙂

[hard stump]

I want to scream the update is out

[reef basin]

I know this is probably not helpful in this case, but usually I'd recommend making diluted packaged fuel in 1:1:1 modules with a small belt loop to handle the canisters

It's also easily blueprintable, including the canisters placed in a machine

[exotic needle]

The equivilent of this would be to have the packagers for the water at the power plant I just dont want to rebuild when I already have the infracstructure in place

[hard stump]

I screamed when I saw the update show up

[exotic needle]

I guess the temporary overflow belt will work for now, I just dont like having the spaghetti. Once I get mk5 belts the problem goes away

[sharp basin]

SAM can be mined with Miner?

[exotic needle]

Sam can be automated

[wicked nacelle]

yes, pick axe, manual miner, or powered miner. for where you are if you find some, put like 20 miners on the node and come back when they're full 🙂

also, sam immeidately converts down 4:1 so it's worth doing that on site so you can carry a lot more

plain sam ore is worthless

[rose saffron]

I used it to blow up an irradiated hog

[sharp basin]

@exotic needle @wicked nacelle Found a node in the middle of the large large in Crater Lake. Should build a Miner there.

Wdym 20 Miners?

[wicked nacelle]

yep, hook it up to a few constructors and then put it in a container

[dense violet]

jesus yeah can you change what you're doing? most oil is already next to water

[wicked nacelle]

well, never mind because you have power there, but the little miners that you can put down by hand

[sharp basin]

Why not a MK1 Miner?

[wicked nacelle]

yeah that's fine since you have power there 🙂 usually the first sam I find I don't have power so I put down the ones that you place out of your hand inventory

the thing you need one of to build a mk1 miner

[sharp basin]

Well there are 3 pure coal nodes there!

[exotic needle]

Im in the desert, my oil node is close so a very small amount of water and I didnt want to overclock extractors so I just added some extractors to my coal plant and used those to package the water. Didnt realize the train docking stopped conveyer movement so I didnt think it would be an issue

[dense violet]

yeah that's the most distant water to oil on the map - Just over clock your water extractors my good person. That sounds like a nightmare and you don't want a stuttering power system

one of hte beautiful things about diluted fuel is that all you need is water + oil and you get ass tons of power easily

[wicked nacelle]

you'll likely want that water for the nearby cat node, anyhow. go to any other oil node 🙂

[exotic needle]

Everything works perfectly except the little bit of downtime on empty canister conveyers, I have the temp belt in place so its not stuttering I just was trying to think of ways around having the spaghetti belt all the way to the water extractors. In any case the problem goes away at tier 7 which Im automating here soon so its fine

[dense violet]

fair enough 🙂 just in general I highly suggest you build things that need any substantial use of water right on it.

like nuclear reactors? put the gens above water. Drone the rods to them if you need to. (for example)

process the fluids at point essentially. Makes life easier

[exotic needle]

I generally do just with this particular set up I had a fuck ton of room right next to the oil nodes. If I knew about the docking conveyer stop I would have just transported water in liquid form and all would be swell

[dense violet]

ah, first train system?

[exotic needle]

First one using conveyers at max throughput

[sharp basin]

Oh! Compacted coal! Oh! Turbofuel!

What’s a Cluster obelisk do compared to an obelisk?

[south idol]

more booms per boom

[south idol]

(shoots out tiny bombs on explode)

[exotic needle]

If my packager facility was only producing like 900 instead of 960 fuel/min this wouldnt be an issue

[dense violet]

ah maybe you just never noticed the lock out yeah. It's very manageble though

[wicked nacelle]

yeah a bunch of little bombs -- honestly not very useful because whatever you want the little bombs to hit they're basically guaranteed to miss

[dense violet]

you generally can't move more than 1 full belt per platform

[wicked nacelle]

but they look cool

[exotic needle]

yeah it was never a problem because nothing was maxed at my belt speeds

Lesson learned the hard way

[sharp basin]

What a about compacted coal? Very much efficient than coal?

[south idol]

i find them quite useful, though you gotta chuck it under your target, or in a little nook or cranny, then all the booms

[wicked nacelle]

they're super fun but I find the normal and the nukes to be the most useful

[south idol]

love them nukes.

[exotic needle]

Another problem this caused was the manifolds never filling up the diluted fuel refineries because of the lock out. Had to have enough water made to fill all the refineries and the belts just to start it up

All is in working order now but it was a pain in the ass lol

[wicked nacelle]

complex fluid manifolds don't work like most people would expect. rumor has it 1.2 fixes this

[ivory condor]

fluid manifolds in my experience only work correctly if you loop both ends, otherwise, at best it can hit or miss

but my general advise is, no matter how you do the pipes, always loop both ends to get best results, especially for mk2 pipes

[wicked nacelle]

that's not consistently been sufficient for me. flooding, looping, height matching, etc. basically having to do all the things

for complex producer/consumer combinations, that is

[ivory condor]

have you seen cases where looping both ends still doesnt result in system being able to output 600m3?

[wicked nacelle]

honestly I've tried so many different combinations of things I don't remember at this point. I gave up and just ran packaged everything. Unpackagers easily create 600/m flows... but then that killed my FPS with 1200/m belts

so when 1.2 comes out I'll go back to pipes I think

[ivory condor]

sesh maybe mk2 pipes are more problematic than i thought, thankfully i havent seen cases where looping both ends doesnt usually work

but that likely means i just havent designed a system yet where the issues arise

[wicked nacelle]

maybe I didn't fully loop both ends. maybe I made a pipe that went towards the consumers then branched off. dunno

instead of having each end of the producers loop to each end of the consumers

[sharp basin]

Why do I feel fluids are hardly comprehensible in that game?

[plain gate]

since 1.0 yea

oops my scroll is so delayed lmao

[wicked nacelle]

pretty sure it could be before, too... it just did nothing

[sharp basin]

Dw ❤️

[spark sky]

You know, I just realized about an hour ago that I had not done my duty to symetry in my biofuel production part of my biomass power plant. I had used the road barrier to make a nice looking 60 degree corner with some catwalk pieces on one end of part of the build, but not on the other end. No wonder where the beams came together looked wrong.

[sharp basin]

I’m doing tier 4 manually, meaning with the Crafting bench

Why the fuck not

[ivory condor]

imo the devs perhaps made the fluid simulation to complex and inherently unfun in the process, might a unpopular opinion around here unsure

[steel kelp]

Tier 4 has me so lost ngl

[wicked nacelle]

complex fluids COULD be fun but they don't expose the complexities or give you tools to deal with them. the fact that there's a 27 page third party manual on how to use fluids is a game dev failure

[ivory condor]

though i think most of the issues would be fine in pipes just worked, but the problem is mk2 pipes have....issues with them

[plain gate]

it's not too complex. its right in the middle of oversimplified and realistic that it makes no sense to either fluid engineers nor idiots

[steel kelp]

Started out by making 240 aluminium sheets and casing each per min. Then i upper my tubber and plastic production to about 1k a min but i just cant figure out where to build my supercomputer

[dense violet]

yeah it's why 1:1:1 for packager refinery packager works well, with a packaged manifold you pretty much have to have a buffer container of empties right before the packagers to make sure the entire system is constantly flooded or you get infinite stutters

[sharp basin]

Coal and iron ore

[steel kelp]

For what?

[sharp basin]

So many things in tier 4

[steel kelp]

Where did you build your supercomputer automation

[reef basin]

near resources it needs

[steel kelp]

There arent really any good spots ive found w that

Unless im missing smth which i must be at this point

[plain gate]

then don't make factories for intermediate parts

go straight to spelevator

[sharp basin]

Grassy fields got iron and coal, making tier 4 EASY

[dense violet]

depends which recipes you're using 🙂 what are they?

[ivory condor]

yeah that third party manual having to even exist shows for me that the fluid simulation imo really could use a rework, imo anyways, because as you say all explainations, tool, etc should exist in the game, you shouldnt have to go to a third party pdf just to understand how pipes work, it should all be explained in the game, so yeah failure indeed

[steel kelp]

I have all the alts i can get at this stage, I’m pretty flexible but tools and modeller arent rly helping me lol

[ivory condor]

though im more upset with how buggy and unintuitive mk2 pipes are

[dense violet]

you've got to swap out recipes manually - planners will give you recipes based on resource value if you check them all

[median geyser]

Do pipes with more than 300/min flow unlock later in the game?

[wicked nacelle]

yes double that with oil

they build with copper and plastic

[sharp basin]

Buggy update 🙏

[dense violet]

that's why I start with only base recipes, then swap recipes in and out to force the plan to change to see the results

[ivory condor]

U3: Now introducing buggy pipes, enjoy

[reef basin]

go with where most resources are and then ship the rest

[dense violet]

for example, super computers with only oil and caterium https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=9pKplOChbXRfyl16VGaL

[median geyser]

Does the game have any known memory leak issues or any other reason why I shouldnt leave it open when Im at work?

[exotic needle]

Yeah this is what I had to do. Ill keep the 1:1:1 in mind for later. As of now I got 360 crude oil & 48 generators working without any stutters so Im happy with this. If I switch to turbofuel before nuclear I will try out the 1:1:1 but I probably wont do that lol

[dense violet]

it can happen, but not to everyone afaik.
that's to say I've seen people talk about it , but haven't really experienced it myself

[steel kelp]

thats some wizardry ngl

[median geyser]

Noted

[steel kelp]

that is so helpful

i guess i have just wasted the last like 5 hours trying to figure out where i was gonna build

[dense violet]

that's what manually swapping out recipes can get you (it waas quick for me because I know the recipes well, but that just means it might take you a bit longer)

[steel kelp]

i guess so, at a certain point i just decided to use no alternates and i got this: https://u6.satisfactorytools.com/production

[dense violet]

midn you I probably wouldn't use this set up myself, but that's because I tend to make bigger systems later in the game and this goes too hard on oil and caterium

[steel kelp]

but caterium just sucks

[exotic needle]

Also since Im using a train for water/empty containers I have about 80 extra stacks of empty containers lol

[dense violet]

you have to hit the share button to get a link 🙂 but if it's just the base recipes I get yah

[median geyser]

How do pipe junctions affect flow? I assumed it would work as in reality, where you would divide your flow evenly assuming no other factors, but in my making of my first coal generator station, it seems to act more like a splitter?

[reef basin]

(also don't use u6 version 😛 )

[steel kelp]

it was a link i found on reddit

https://u6.satisfactorytools.com/production?share=HHsM9PNo7hM2PSzgY5Ln

[dense violet]

oof yeah didn't notice that.
That will lead you down the wrong path

the link I shared with you is current

[reef basin]

it doesn't act like anything - it's just 4 pipes connected to one point. Fluid flows in all directions as needed

[dense violet]

preferably your pipes will be flooded and the rate they flow will be based on machine consumption. Full pipes are happy pipes

[ivory condor]

absolutely do not use a u6 calculator, those production numbers are just wrong

[steel kelp]

😮

noted

[dense violet]

recipes have changed since u6 🙂 new items too

not many, but even one wrong recipe can be disastrous

[reef basin]

well not wrong, they are just based on old recipes

[ivory condor]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[reef basin]

they are correct for U6

[steel kelp]

at least i learned how to make a train spiral from this 'experiment'

[median geyser]

Thats what I was trying to achieve, but I had 3 water producers (forget the proper name) making 120m³ water, so 360units/min, and pipes that carry 300. Yet at the end of my lines, I was only getting 30units/min

[south idol]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[dense violet]

show me a more overhead iamge of your coal system in #math-and-meta ?

[steel kelp]

wrong link btw

[ivory condor]

huh?

[steel kelp]

i assumed u were trying to link an actual production line

[median geyser]

On my lunch at work atm, but ty for offering. I got it working in the end but it was a crazy work around with 3 different water lines feeding 8 genes 😂 ill drop back in on my day off to get someone to help me fix up and optimize it

[dense violet]

ah well the most common issue is needing 2 pipes for that

!wikisearch CG

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[ivory condor]

oh no, but that takes you to the correct version of the calculator that you should use

[dense violet]

like these layouts for coal gens

[steel kelp]

yeh i found that other link on reddit, i usually use the 1,0 one

i was just so down bad lmao i thought id try it

glad i asked in here tho lol, now these supercomputers are easy

[ivory condor]

recipes were changed with 1.0, i forget all that was changed

but the calculator shows the correct production numbers, so use them

[paper stump]

Toggle crouch is pretty much necessary for the console port.

[wicked nacelle]

computers used to take screws, is one

[steel kelp]

can anyone recc a good battery production line? I think i want to make around 500 a minute, this is what i have now: https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=8s45y3nC6q1veFgZvlYL

[wicked nacelle]

pc is pretty much necessary for playing satisfactory

[south idol]

..is there a way to copy paste vehicle pathing info without doing it manually?

[wicked nacelle]

I haven't made a battery since 1.0 made them optional. You know you can power drones with fuel now right?

[reef basin]

well, if you like it, it's "good"

hard to say what's "good" for you

[ivory condor]

screws, i love those truly

[south idol]

i want to assign path set to auto pilot all in one go ctrl-c/ctrl-v :/

[wicked nacelle]

your mom loves screws!!!

from.. uhh.. your dad 🙂

question mark

[steel kelp]

yeh, i have a big turbo fuel plant at the moment which i could use for it once i make rocket fuel

[plain gate]

yeah its good

[steel kelp]

idk which would be more effiicent for powering drones though

[plain gate]

usually js use plutonium rods

[wicked nacelle]

that's what I do -- I syphon some off for a drone pickup port - it backs up and then the rest gets burned

[plain gate]

unless you mind splotches of red everywhere

[reef basin]

see the drone page on wiki

[plain gate]

a container of Pu rods would last until the heat death of the universe

[wicked nacelle]

I do that for my drones at my nuclear plant and then sink the rest but I don't want to introduce radiation elsewhere

[wet tide]

I was using turbofuel for drones . Leftovers from RocketFuel powerplant

[wicked nacelle]

it literally can't because they can't exist at the heat death

[steel kelp]

i feel like ill use a lot of drone so id want a lot of fuel to make the refuelling hub

[dense violet]

efficient in this case is whatever resources you're willing to put to it.
power and resources are effectively infinite on the map as you can't reallisticly use all of it

I just use whatever fuel I have made early on for drones. Later? plutonium rods

[pine patrol]

#screenshots message my steel production would give those “use foundations” mfers a heart attack

[plain gate]

there are some resources you can exhaust in which case you should be planning around those resources in particular

[wicked nacelle]

drones don't really use that much fuel

[wicked nacelle]

not within the course of just beating the story you really can't

[exotic needle]

lol wtf

[wicked nacelle]

I ran into resource limitations going for 80 BWD/m for sure, but i could work around those because you can theoretically get almost double that

[exotic needle]

I love that you used foundations for only the storage

[zenith pecan]

That looks a lot like what I used to complete all the space elevator phases 😄

[pine patrol]

it was a bridge over the river bc i didnt wanna swim each time bc it would cancel my slide jump

[wet tide]

After 609 hours of playing this game I finally beat it. Did it take too long or is this a good result for the first time?

[zenith pecan]

Only you can be the judge of that, the most important part, is did you enjoy the playthrough 🙂

[dense violet]

I've got 3500 and never finished xD so you're doing well on some metric

[wicked nacelle]

you should play another 81 hours

[wet tide]

I was so afraid of the lack of electricity in phase 5 that I made power plants for 400 gigawatts, but only used 120 gigawatts :0

[dense violet]

you can finish phase 5 on even less than that 🙂

I was making all the phase 5 thigns with 30gw

[wicked nacelle]

i mean you can beat the game with essentially any amount of power

whatever the biggest building is at 1% underclock

[zenith pecan]

And here's me building north of a terrawat and being proper lazy (also lost some data migrating to W11) ~whoops!

[reef basin]

with a single power storage, you can finish the game on a single coal gen (clocked to 1%)

[dense violet]

how much are you actually using though?

[zenith pecan]

In my case, not much at all due to epic demolitions of most old crap & spaghetti, I wanted to build properly but I was exercising proper haste clearing the space elevator checkpoints just to get the objective off the screen.

[south idol]

hmm, interesting, can you though? I wonder how long it would take, taken to the extreme, is there a challenge that would take longer than the average human life to complete :?

[reef basin]

you pretty much for sure can

handcrafting would carry that run though

[wicked nacelle]

yeah you'd only want to power elevator parts

[south idol]

mm, it's mathematically possible, yeah, im just wondering if you automate everything, how long would it take in hours

[wicked nacelle]

you can figure out the amount of kWh/item

[pine patrol]

me when i pump fuel into my refining systems bc i didnt realize polymer resin auto refines into fuel

[dense violet]

... auto refines into fuel?

[hard junco]

heyy i need help in trains i dont like them they made me quit playing the first time but i have to figure them out this time, so i want to get some parts from factory A to factory B factory A is on the ground factory B is elevated its on a mountain how do i make the tracks go up while having a foundation under them?? i made a train pillars but i know now they only work if i move on the same level the more i go up the uglier it will look i dont want floating tracks lol so any ideas or screenshots i can get inspiration from i sent screenshots here #screenshots

[wicked nacelle]

look for these four alts: heavy oil residue/diluted (packaged) fuel/recycled rubber/recycled plastic -- it makes oil MUCH more efficient and creates a very straightforward set of production lines

[pine patrol]

Yk how the oil recipes have alternets to make fuel? This one has fuel from the get go

[dense violet]

use foundations and ramps the whole way, zooped.

[wicked nacelle]

easiest way is just 2m ramps and 1 engine 4 car trains

or 2 engine 8 car

[dense violet]

right, you mean you get resin from the base fuel. Ok cool.

[wicked nacelle]

you can also make a double helix shape to do it nearly vertically

[pine patrol]

ill be sure to look out for them?

[wicked nacelle]

you get a ton more power and a ton more plastic/rubber when you combine those four

[quick barn]

You need to unlock overclocking

[hard junco]

ok but ill have floating foundations now, but thats better than floating tracks and floating pillars, ill try ramps i remember using the first playthrough and they made the tracks float a bit but ill give them a try now

[dense violet]

you can remove them later if yo uwant

[hard junco]

i believe its better to have them and add some details like a bridge or something

[dense violet]

if it's aesthetics?
well a lot of that will have to do with choosing factory locations and the terrain in between. That's gotta be part of your train and logistics planning

[south idol]

just gotta get some vertical foundation blueprints and seal off the sides, then it's just foundation, and noone can say otherwise without looking inside :p

[dense violet]

pinged you in other channel

[hard junco]

yea another thing to add when building factories the location and how well can it be connected to other factories

[dense violet]

critical part of planning 🙂

[wet tide]

#screenshots #screenshots message . This is how i made mine traintracks 🙂

yeah i was using those pipes

[hard junco]

yea i think thats better this way ill try to do that

[hard junco]

beautiful, when connecting a track from a pillar to another did you put anything between them?

i mean when u were going up

[wet tide]

nope . Just extend pillars holding tracks and thats it 🙂 i will drop screenshot in a sec

[hard junco]

@dense violet the one u just pinnged me to is perfect that exatly what i need somehting similar to this ill add some details and its perfect

[dense violet]

there's also this that I used basically teh same method, #design-and-architecture message

[wet tide]

@hard junco#screenshots message . Like this

[dense violet]

I find stacked rail to be able to hug terrain much better, and might look better hugging cliffs. Sticks out less

[wet tide]

works for me

[hard junco]

alright this is amazing i love this i guess ill copy this one lol

[hard junco]

i really love the details how does someone come up with this omg

is there somehting insdie the glass part

like a room or something>

[dense violet]

playing around with things mostly 🙂
the glass part is actually just there temporarily to help set up the pipes xD

[dense violet]

I set them up along the curved foundations leading the line https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1423745447477903480/image.png?ex=691386c6&is=69123546&hm=75f53dba14de4fda05f8c422c6892ac79a530b8ea223872a8c4736ce5f5c3582&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

and then used pipe and belt wall supports to have some logistics running underneath

[dense violet]

this is probably more clear https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1331451976629747813/train_pylon.png?ex=69134988&is=6911f808&hm=84dd361f0101a41d29b899e5416d57a337c76fc8809a625ff307522f041bec3c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[wet tide]

I love trains

[hard junco]

you even have a hypertube entrance ahhhh u guys are making like trains now lol, i see that you have a curved foundations too, i saw a video about how to make them and i knew ill have to use them and learn them one day guess its with trains

[wet tide]

I personally hate heavy modular frame

[dense violet]

I mean in that first image I linked all I did was angle the leading line a bit. Don't have to curve things.
I just love curving things

[novel heath]

does anyone here use automated miners?
didnt look useful at all but crafting is starting to get annoying after unlocking mk3

[reef basin]

yeah just hook it to depot and never care about them again

[south idol]

yeah man, just set up a teeny factory for them on an unused node, speed isnt an issue when you depot them

[novel heath]

alright

[dense violet]

I also run power lines underneath the rails. I don't want my system to rely on a rail line for power. You go to edit one bit of rail and BOOM, your whole system could go down

[wet tide]

Or you can use ur friends who cant build shit and just exploring man for slugs and other things

[hard junco]

i didnt like the idea about using trains as a power system to other factories i have power lines in those track pillars i made theyll look better too adding more details

[tribal ingot]

is the planet random? like is it generated... or always the same?

[wet tide]

same

[bitter lodge]

what are the two main websites people use to factory planning?

I know satsifactory manager is one, but what was the other one?

[dense violet]

a person after my own heart 😄

[shrewd palm]

satisfactory tools which is a website and satisfactory modeler which is on steam

[wet tide]

#screenshots messageJust imagine that you are a crazy berserker and run around a map with huge power lines . Works for me 🙂

[bitter lodge]

Thank you.

I forgot one was a steam application

[dense violet]

well, the layout seems cool at least xD

[novel heath]

i wish i could 😭

[shrewd palm]

my favourite is modeler but you should probably try out both

[wet tide]

let me have some lemon flavor slugs please

[bitter lodge]

I am use to manager personally, but I gotten a lot of recommendations for modeler

[dense violet]

I've never heard of 'manager' ?

[bitter lodge]

I was way off, it is the satisfactory calculator

[ivory condor]

oh

[dense violet]

ahh ok, Calculator doesn't have a greate user interface

[bitter lodge]

its been a minute since I played ;-;, but I wanna get back into it.

[dense violet]

this one is very solid and fast https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

modeler is more of a layout tool

[bitter lodge]

#screenshots

I did not realize I was using this way before LMAO

[dense violet]

yup! that's tools, not calculator 🙂

[bitter lodge]

I have so many tabs saved

[dense violet]

I find it's very useful to save the links in a spread sheet or a word document

that way I don't have to worry about deleting the tabs

[bitter lodge]

I am afraid going back into my world...I gotta find all my factories and remember what I was working on

I think I ran into a train layout issue and said fuck it then quit

[reef basin]

why not export/import? 🤔

[dense violet]

was it pre 1.0?

[ivory condor]

satisfactory calculator production planner imo is horrible and I wouldnt use that garbage

[bitter lodge]

1.1....

[dense violet]

so not so long ago 🙂

[bitter lodge]

which I know is bad, but I was struggling ;-;

[dense violet]

I like having them individually? and I can keep them next to my break down in spread sheets

[wet tide]

I have to go to work in 3 hours ( a specialist in removing dents on cars), but I continue to play and did not even go to bed . :c

[ivory condor]

i dont who designed that ui for that planner, but its just so terrible I have no words to describe it

[bitter lodge]

I have this crazy idea of bringing every resource on the map into one central location. Then just going super vertical for crafting.

[reef basin]

fair, just asking

[dense violet]

look. Don't.

[bitter lodge]

Just don't XD

[wet tide]

Yeah . I was trying to do this and fail

[dense violet]

your computer will catch fire

[bitter lodge]

OH

[dense violet]

maybe aim for like... 1/4 of total world resources

[bitter lodge]

OMG. The amount of like lag that would make is actually...ya.

[wet tide]

10fps gang?

[bitter lodge]

but like it be really cool.

but also. Maybe several seperate factories would be best.

[dense violet]

often yes 🙂

[wet tide]

No no no imagine . Loooooong trains full of resources

And smoke effect from ur pc

cool right?

[ivory condor]

I just had to look at the calculator production planner, its just as bad ui wise as I remember, this is horrendous

[bitter lodge]

LMAO