satisfactory

[dense violet]

ah xD

don't even need all uranium for that

[dim cradle]

besides with a PC you can always upgrade the parts easily if they don't suffice

Even if you have like a very old AM4 you could technically just shove any x3d chip in there from that gen and then buy some cheap DDR4 RAM (if even that is cheap anymore though) and done deal

[amber ruin]

I have a question

[dim cradle]

Only problem is RAM prices are skyrocketing

[dense violet]

Yes.

[halcyon kite]

I also really think the 1.2 update will make things run even smoother, which would be nice.

[dense violet]

I wouldn't pin things on 1.2 much.

[amber ruin]

Does anyone have a picture of the satis map from link super high up so you can see the scale of the map compared?

[dense violet]

look at the online map. SCIM

[vague creek]

I just want vertical splitters/mergers fixed

[dense violet]

it is though a 100% exploration spoiler though

[halcyon kite]

The only thing I'm hopeful for from 1.2 is getting some of the megafactories to be less laggy... I just want to play a world where I just turn a whole biome into my only factory and import every resource to it. lol

[amber ruin]

Dm me it then

I have beaten the game

(Automated everything)

[dense violet]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

it's a common tool for people who either don't care about exploration or seen it all 🙂

Best online map available. Not a great calculator though

very few people on the server don't know about it, and those that don't learn about it pretty fast after getting on

[halcyon kite]

Okay, I just thought of something... What is the deal with Satisfactory Youtubers who profess to hating the Spiders, but then rurn around with two guns, no homing ammo, and no melee weapon? Like... bossman... You're gonna need either homing ammo or something to smack them with. lol

[amber ruin]

Not the actual map the entire map including the outside terrain

[halcyon kite]

Join the Church of the Calculator Map.

[dense violet]

turn on the layer that shows the terrain

theres 'game map' and 'realistic map'

[dim cradle]

You can just use radars though, dunno if there's a reason for it unless you wanna get spoiled on sloop/mercer locations...

[lethal geyser]

Sup

[dense violet]

you can, but that's part of the exploration

[halcyon kite]

Or the Clicky Device of Dopamimine.. AKA the object scanner.

Object Scanner also teaches you to look for caves.

[dim cradle]

radars are OP, you can use them to triangulate sloop locations and stuff

show all resources too

[dense violet]

Hot take on what's op or not 😛

[sharp basin]

Well I don’t know how much coal I’ll need in the future but that pure coal node south of the map got 12 countainers around it now

[dense violet]

just as a thing, storing ore and ingots is fairly pointless 🙂

[dim cradle]

Well you can build unlimited anything, but with radars you know where everything is so you can plan anything you want out. I'd say radars are the most OP thing in the game tbh.

[sharp basin]

Really?

[dim cradle]

If we exclude the existence of that web site, but it's a 3rd party tool and not in the game

[dense violet]

as everything is produced in per min, you'll either use the most pm you mine or less right?
because if you ever use MORE pm than you mine, it doesn't matter how big your storage is, you'll run out eventually

[dense violet]

storing parts though? useful
you can use them for building , or setting up temporary production lines ect

[halcyon kite]

You want to balance how much you're processing against how much you produce, or vice versa, that's why the machines have output %s you can change.

[sharp basin]

I mean, I’m not talking about energy, yeah, just to store some

[dense violet]

sure, you could make like a container of coal if you wanted to use it to fuel trucks or something right?
but make them for very specific uses. Otherwise? pretty pointless.

[sharp basin]

Yeah may be when I’ll use trucks, why not?

I dunno, the 12 countainers are there anyway 😂

[dim cradle]

I made one screwup in my math though. Fluids get a bit more complicated. I grouped out two aluminum lines, each with 4 refineries. I split a water source into 2 with valves to supply the missing water. Turns out if one of the lines isn't getting used up 100%, the water fills up since it was meant to supply two. Don't be like me. Split the water line into 4 valves.

[dense violet]

that's a hell of a typo from 'don't use valves'

just fell all over your keyboard I assume

[dim cradle]

They're working fine for half of it

[dense violet]

xD

[dim cradle]

just the other half the nuggies got backed up so the water filled up

[sharp basin]

Trains use coal?

[dense violet]

only if you consider the electricity they use to be using coal, (if you use coal generators)

[halcyon kite]

Trains run off your electric grid, and also act as power lines for your electric grid, so whatever is powering them.

[dense violet]

although, imo, you're better off running power lines under the train lines too

[halcyon kite]

Speaking of Trucks though, I kind of want to turn Green Fields into a giant residential district this map and just have trucks "going about their day before going home" in a massive loop. lol

[spark sky]

Okay, how do you get a beam to be, say, 5.5m long, instead of 5m or 6m long?

[dense violet]

you can if you angle them?

[halcyon kite]

Welcome to nudging! You make a smol beam, lined up with the main beam, and tap it into place.

[spark sky]

Yeah, but the nudge moves it .5 on both ends, and what I need is .25 over so both ends are .5 into the beams they are connecting.

[dim cradle]

What I did with this was just make an overflow smart splitter for every aluminum scrap refinery, so if any of their scrap isn't getting used it just gets dumped. That way the water doesn't ever back up if any of the scrap isn't getting used.

[halcyon kite]

Are you doing the Alt nudging or regular nudging? Alt is a smaller nudge.

[dim cradle]

Not the most efficient since that scrap could be used for something else but it works.

I'm just not using all of my aluminum rn since the sheets aren't used for much.

[spark sky]

Wait, there is Alt nudging, not just Ctrl nudging?

[pine patrol]

Okay dumb question

Do automated trains need to go in a loop for 2 points or would one track do?

[feral geyser]

Then sink the excess sheets

They're worth more than the scrap anyway

[halcyon kite]

No wait, I got them backwards. Ctrl is the half nudge, Alt is another nudge but it seems to be slightly longer instead of slightly shorter... Have you tried using a sign aligned on the beam as a pinned point?

[dense violet]

a back and forth works

[pine patrol]

epic

[halcyon kite]

You can do once track, with two stations, a train engine on either end.

[dense violet]

however it becomes very obnoxious if you need more than 1 train on the line
make 2 way rail at that point

[pine patrol]

i only need one line im only moving a few oil products into my base (WHY DOESNT RHE DESERT HAVE ANY OIL)

[dense violet]

it's almost like a logistics problem solving game gives you logistics problems to solve 😛

[pine patrol]

not lore accurate to real life 😔

[halcyon kite]

Is the closest Oil spot for the Desert actually in the Northern Forest/Lagoon area?

[dense violet]

or to the west in the northern spire

[pine patrol]

ibhave no idea what the biome is

[spark sky]

No, and using beam connectors, the first connection seems to connect to the center of the beam connector, but the other end doesn't want to connect to the center of the next beam connector, instead it wants to connect outside the connector (in freeform mode).

[grizzled orchid]

You will notice the higher in phases you go the more logistics you need and travelling, it's a fun design choice.

[dense violet]

if you're trying to problem solve something this specificl #design-and-architecture is good for that. Can do images too

[pine patrol]

well yeah im fine doing that for sulfer its a more valuble resource but like its oil

[dim cradle]

hmm.. even if I sunk the 2/min bwd's I was making for a bit as I went out I'd be making so many points/min lol, these are worth so much

[dense violet]

oil is very important
a ton of alt recipes later use plastic/rubber to pad out or simplify production

you can cut coal entirely from a world production line, but not oil

[dim cradle]

Like wtf I'd be making 5.6 million points/min?

[halcyon kite]

Oil might be one of the most important resources for late game, in my opinion, because of Plastic and Rubber. You're gonna be annoyed when you run out of it.

[pine patrol]

the closest oil to my base (east of the center desert) is 1600 meters

[dense violet]

not far at all then

[spark sky]

Okay, I may try there if my next idea doesn't work. Since freeform beams seem to be able to connect to foundation edges, I'm going to try putting in a couple of temporary foundations to see if I can get it to work.

[halcyon kite]

This is going to worry you, but that's fairly close tbh.

[dim cradle]

but with the recycled loop how do you actually run out of plastic or rubber...

[pine patrol]

im used to my 500 meter coal 😔

[dim cradle]

It barely takes any buildings to make a lot of rubber/plastic at the same time...

[dense violet]

if you go giant and use all the recipes that use plastic and rubber?

[halcyon kite]

I mean, some people don't know about the loop, or don't have it set properly. lol

Also, I think Cobalt and I might be thinking from the aspect of, what is now, "Phase 6" where you're just having fun and making things bigger.

[dim cradle]

I'm choosing to use recipes that use plastic/rubber a decent amount but I guess the 400-500 of each that I have going around my factory is just keeping things way overfed.

It's just backed up

well yeah if you're in the infinite build stage sure

you can run out of anything

[pine patrol]

choo choo mother…… this is the best part of satisfactory so far to me

[dim cradle]

Trains are pretty cool yeah

[dense violet]

like most resources, you can always pick all the recipes that go ALL IN on a resource

like quartz? you can use like... no quartz for your whole world making tons of end tier stuff

or use every drop of quartz on the map

[halcyon kite]

I mean, you can enter the infinite build stage without beating Phase 5. You just never finish because your brain goes Brrr with new ideas.

[pine patrol]

I NEED PLASTIC FOR TRAINS 😭

[dim cradle]

I could see that for people that get distracted easily

[halcyon kite]

Me yeeting out any recipe that has Screws in it, no matter the cost of other resources. lol

[pine patrol]

THE ENTIRE REASON I WAS GONNA MAKE TRAINS WAS TO TRAINSPORT THE STUFF

[dim cradle]

I always have an excess of quartz but I chose the aluminum route that used no quartz at all

[dense violet]

this makes 10.6 mod frames pm using bolted plate/frame 😛

steel screws go brrrr https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1425811234363801732/1425812876182163496/image.png?ex=691128f8&is=690fd778&hm=f7171c4cc28a510202f24279e125c9aeadd220f09bf79df07331cabc131660e9&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1201&height=934

[pine patrol]

truck routes it is 😔

[halcyon kite]

Like, I'm 50hrs into this current world, I've accomplished literally nothing but built a whole bunch. And I'm still in Phase 3 because I'm just running around with my gun.

[charred sandal]

Is there any reason to put space parts in dimensional depot?

I autopiloted my set up to include depots at the space part machines, and just realized...I dont think theres a point in uploading?

Kinda weird that it lets you upload parts that have no use-case for building

[grizzled orchid]

Yep, just wait till you need mountain climbing gear for for some of the last nodes which you'll need. Also it's generally easier to bring the materials to the liquid than vice versa so all the more reason to start on logistics like trucks/trains.

[halcyon kite]

Some of the space parts are used in later stage space parts, but you will be able to steadily drop them into the trash and gut that part of your factory.

[halcyon kite]

Also, you can Sink them for points. And get the precious Golden Nut Statue.

[pine patrol]

mhm#screenshots message

[spark sky]

Okay, it looks like using a foundation corner as the end point worked. #design-and-architecture message

[dense violet]

all, iirc

[halcyon kite]

Smart Plating is used in later stuff? Did I space case that...

[pine patrol]

How large is the map like in meters?

[shy mulch]

Anyone any tips for tractors? I'm a fairly experienced player but avoided trucks and tractors forever cos they just seemed hassle. But I'm giving them a try now and I was right, they seem so unpredictable. Just for testing, I made 2 stations, one set to load, one set to unload, made a tractor and drove it a route (this seems an annoyingly imprecise way to set a route, but regardless...) I turned on autopilot and half the time it doesn't even follow the route, it does spins and random circles and sometimes drives miles away from the route. Wtf is the deal with these things

[dim cradle]

Do hard drives that you get from the awesome shop count for the achievement?

[dense violet]

in the next space parts 🙂

[dense violet]

about 7km wide I think

[dim cradle]

Anyone know?

[pine patrol]

epic

[halcyon kite]

Make a road at least 1.5-2 foundations wide per "direction", don't use the same road unless you have a massive turnaround at the end, setup barrier walls on the "road" to stop Dumdums from driving off, pray.

[dense violet]

no idea sorry 🙁 you could start a new save, edit in a ton of coupons and see?

[dim cradle]

I have 450 and I'm thinking of leaving the game on dumping these 2 bwds/min for a while to get some more while I do dishes and stuff

That'd be like 5m points/min I guess? so around 1 coupon per 1.5 mins or so?

[dense violet]

for a while until the costs increase

[dim cradle]

yeah they went up pretty rapidly when I drained out my nuclear pasta from the long belt going to the elevator

just set up overflow splitters into a sink

I guess I should try to get the golden nut statue or w/e first then.

hdds can be gotten through exploration anyway

[halcyon kite]

I just realised I didn't redo my Steel Factory section when I got those alt recipes... I have to rip all of that trash out now...

[dim cradle]

geez 9 billion points to get to the 1000th coupon

Gonna be a bit huh

Only at 530 now or so

[dim cradle]

Why not just build more

I never rip anything out, just make more

[shy mulch]

If I have to go to the effort of laying foundations for the whole route, I might as well just use belts. The whole point of trucks is to avoid that effort. What's the point in trucks then?

[halcyon kite]

Alt Recipes, like the steel ones, let you free up resources in the processes, get more things per item spent. You will, I hate to tell you this, be replacing whole factories if you want to optimise your production lines to their fullest potential.

[halcyon kite]

They look cute?

[dim cradle]

But is there a point? There's so much iron on the map...

Unless you're building something rather insane, at which point I hope you like refineries and/or maybe blenders

[feral geyser]

Not needing to go to a new location is nice

[shy mulch]

I'm not aiming for looking cute. Is there no practical purpose to trucks? Should I just forget about them

[pine patrol]

is sam used for anything other than research?

[feral geyser]

Yes

[shy mulch]

Lots of things. It's probably the resource you'll run out of first, relatively scarce

[feral geyser]

Do the research first though

[royal gazelle]

I'm with you actually. Clever uses of support structures can even make belts look awesome, and trucks are still limited by belt speed input and output

[halcyon kite]

So, for instance, one of the most basic Steel Alt recipes is Iron Pipes, that lets you remove Coal from the creation of Steel Pipes entirely, and simplify them for the creation chain. There is one that lets you smelt Iron Ore first, then Foundry that with Coal for more Steel Ingots than you would get otherwise. There is a cement recipe with Steel to get more Encased Iron Beams.

[dim cradle]

I've built a lot of refineries to use the "Pure <insert ingot>" recipes for efficiency and they get biiig

Yeah I'm using the Iron Pipes recipe everywhere

but I didn't tear down the coal based ones, I just left it alone and upgraded the coal source and then split a new line off of that

If I know how much coal the old process is using, it's trivial to just reuse the leftovers elsewhere

[shy mulch]

The playthrough I'm working on has extremely limited power (self imposed rules). So I've been using belts for everything as they are obviously the most efficient. Trains and drones aren't possible because they use too much power. I thought trucks would save me a lot of effort for long distance routes, but it sounds like they won't. Really struggling to understand why trucks even exist in the game

[dim cradle]

I think tearing down and redoing is a last resort unless maybe you just want to keep it very neat I guess...

[halcyon kite]

I just know of some of the later recipes I want to use, and factories I want to build pre-infinite stage, so I'm trying to leave as much stuff free as possible.

[dim cradle]

Also someone told me that trucks have a hard time on created platforms and stuff so I left all my trucks on just ground

[royal gazelle]

Not for automation, but personal exploration. Load them up with everything you need to build your next factory and supply some power, and any pioneer can head out into the wild yonder

[dim cradle]

If you've got a huge plan then fair enough, I guess that's not necessarily common play

[shy mulch]

Slide jumping is faster 🤷

[royal gazelle]

Inventory space is limited

[shy mulch]

Dimensional depots aren't

[dim cradle]

Dimensional depots kind of solve the inventory problem lol

[royal gazelle]

True, but you'll usually have trucks before DDepots

[halcyon kite]

They are though. I cap my depots all the time.

[shy mulch]

You can get depots at phase 0 if you want

[dim cradle]

If you explore a lot you can have depots pretty early yeah

But for a newbie that wouldn't be common play I guess

[shy mulch]

Then you need more depots

[halcyon kite]

I quite literally can't get more depots. I have hit the limit for what Ada will allow me. For she deems me a Good Worker.

[shy mulch]

So the single use case for trucks is for exploration when you need to carry lots of resources while exploring, but don't have depots yet. That's extremely niche

[shy mulch]

You're capping out the throughput for 200 depots?

[halcyon kite]

I'm capping out the storage space for depots. Which is what we were talking about.

[south canyon]

got a question about the quartz area under the desert biome: is tehre an alternative entrance?

since the only entrance I could find is ||next to the coastline||, so it would be hard to route conveyors and power

[shy mulch]

Put a storage inline that feeds into the depot. If you're using more than 240/min then create multiple depots. In my main save I have 10 feeding concrete with multiple storages backed up in line behind each one so I would need to use 2400/min concrete for 3 hours straight in order to run out

[dense violet]

either west or east, by the shore

[dense violet]

you could also have a lift clip through the top of hte cave

[south canyon]

yeah

was thinking about using nobelisks somewhere

[dim cradle]

Wait what, there's a depot limit?

Do you mean stack limit?

Lol yeah concrete is usually the one that would take multiple depots

[shy mulch]

Each depot can hold 5 stacks once fully researched

[dim cradle]

Yeah that's the stack limit.

[halcyon kite]

Yes. Because we were talking about having an inventory limit, depots got brought up, depots will hit a limit, especially when hooked up to a production line.

[dim cradle]

Yeah you just delete what you don't need from your inventory because it replenishes infinitely anyway

[shy mulch]

I don't see why the stack limit would be relevant here though

[dim cradle]

Unfortunately you can only take 1 stack out at a time and not specific quantities

[shy mulch]

When you take stuff out or use stuff, it will replenish at 240 per min per depot, so it's really never an issue tbh

[dim cradle]

Well it totally is when you first get them, 30/min is very painful. Later not really. The issue is if you disassemble or are using it for goals or something, it goes in your inv and you can only take out full stacks

Can't put it back when it's getting filled up that fast

[shy mulch]

That's not the situation here though. We're getting wildly off topic now, searching very hard for a use case for trucks

[dim cradle]

Oh trucks

Yeah they're ok, kind of silly and cute but not something I used for anything aside from novelty

[thorny pagoda]

Finally getting around to building tier 8 space elevator stuff

[dim cradle]

IMO trains are just easier

[shy mulch]

This conversation started because I was trying to understand a use case for trucks
As far as I can tell, they are only actually useful for new players to explore who for some reason need to carry massive amounts of materials with them while exploring and don't have depots yet, which seems like an extremely niche scenario

[shy mulch]

For reasons explained earlier, that's not possible

[dim cradle]

Sorry where at, I probably came into this at the wrong time

Ah

what is your power limitation?

[tender quarry]

are pipe floor holes usable without flow issues?

[shy mulch]

I've completed the game thousands of hours ago. The playthrough I'm on atm due to self imposed rules I am very limited in power. Trains and drones use too much power to be feasible. I'm using belts for everything for efficiency but wanted to sacrifice some power for long distance routes to save having to make arrays of belts several km long. But seems like they won't actually work at all, which is annoying

I'm using biomass power only

Not allowed any automated power

[thorny pagoda]

I haven’t had any issues with flow using pipe floor holes

[grizzled orchid]

That's a lot of biomass .. like you'll run out of biomass potentially?

[shy mulch]

That's the whole point of this self imposed challenge

[grizzled orchid]

True, well best of luck with that 🫡

[tender quarry]

i remember they were bugged a while back

[thorny pagoda]

Yeah at the time I just phased them through floors

[wicked nacelle]

Yep but I think it was fixed in 1.0

[tender quarry]

it was 1.1 maybe

[wicked nacelle]

Nah

[tender quarry]

i never used them

[wicked nacelle]

I did a new save when 1.0 shipped and didn’t have the issue. 1.0 was probably least buggy version

[tender quarry]

oh ok

[wicked nacelle]

1.1 screwed up a lot of stuff

[tender quarry]

theres rendering bugs every once in a while

[wicked nacelle]

And we’ve gotten no gameplay bug fixes that I know of. Some crash bug stuff but no behavior bug fixes that I remember tha affected me

Oh yeah that’s true.

[tender quarry]

low poly titan forest and weird shadows

[wicked nacelle]

1.0 had a ton of rendering issues.

[marsh heath]

I need sea block(factorio) but for satisfactory.

[frozen falcon]

My power towers aren't working for something

How do I use power towers?

[tender quarry]

you connect a power pole into the lower power connector of the tower

[cunning siren]

What part is confusing?

[tender quarry]

and the top lines are for setting up more towers in a line

[frozen falcon]

I have a series of power towers, one has 22% juice in it but the one its connected to has nothing and isn't powering anything

So where is the juice at cause it's not giving any juice

[cunning siren]

🧃

I took your juice 🤷

[frozen falcon]

How do I use the power towers?

[frozen falcon]

Doesn't work

One has 24% power the other isn't doing anything and not giving any power to be used by power poles

They're connected so I have no clue why it's not giving any energy

[cunning siren]

There are strange things that happen with power storages and power towers that I've experienced. Any chance a power storage is involved?

[frozen falcon]

No

[tender quarry]

screenshot it?

[frozen falcon]

#screenshots message

[spark sky]

@terse kindle For blueprints, have you tried doing a search on Google for blueprint sites. I'm not sure this discord server allows outside links.

Yeah, it removed the link.

[exotic needle]

Im running into an issue with my coal power atm... Got 2 rows of 8 generators on this save each row with their own mk1 pipe line that is looped around the generator row with 3 water gens on each line so 6 in total. Headlift is good but not getting enough water to each generator. I havent had any issues with this in the past with the same/very similar set up. Anyone got any ideas?

[frozen falcon]

More water

[tender quarry]

there is power storage involved

its on the right

[dense violet]

overhead images in #math-and-meta

[frozen falcon]

Because it's connected to a series of 6 where the first one is connected to a power storage

It's not connected to a power storage

[tender quarry]

are you sure its not powering anything

[frozen falcon]

Yes

[terse kindle]

I looked at satisfactoryblueprints.com, but couldn’t find what I was looking for sadly

[frozen falcon]

It's very easy to discover

[tender quarry]

red indicators?

[frozen falcon]

I see no red, no

[tender quarry]

no red indicators on machines?

[spark sky]

Yeah, I downloaded some blueprints from there, but there must be other places. Otherwise, as was suggested, look on YouTube and follow the instructions.

[dense violet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59g9qUh0-iA

[frozen falcon]

One second I have to walk back

[tender quarry]

ur at coal power stage of the game right?

[spark sky]

@dense violet Are YouTube links the only ones we can post here?

[exotic needle]

I did my best

[dense violet]

among a few other things

[frozen falcon]

All machines it's supposed to be powering are red

Because I can tell when a coal generator and water pump isn't being powered

[spark sky]

Okay, I tried posting the link to satisfactoryblueprints.com and it got deleted.

[frozen falcon]

Satisfactory links aren't allowed gngey, everyone knows that

[spark sky]

I know that some of the YouTube channels also have their own blueprint repositories, I've downloaded some of those blueprints as well.

[tender quarry]

send a screenshot of ur coal setup

[frozen falcon]

What coal setup

Why

[tender quarry]

alr then

[dense violet]

most aren't white listed

[tender quarry]

wherever your problem area is

[frozen falcon]

Why though

[tender quarry]

according to the power graph

there shouldnt be any machines unpowered

idk where the problem is

[frozen falcon]

One second

20, actually

[tender quarry]

orar

[frozen falcon]

#screenshots message

[frozen falcon]

What

[tender quarry]

are you running off biomass rn?

based on the 450mw capacity

[frozen falcon]

No

Coal which I'm gradually running out because the shitty ass power lines stopped my coal miners from giving me coal

[tender quarry]

oh alr so 6 are running and these ones refuse to work?

[frozen falcon]

These are different coal generators

I have 3 others and they work because they're not connected by power towers

Cause I guess power towers are autistic or inept

[shy mulch]

Just connect everything in one power grid, you're overcomplicating things for no reason

[frozen falcon]

The fuck you think I'm trying to do?

[tender quarry]

coal gens directly into power towers??

or poles

[frozen falcon]

Poles

[shy mulch]

If you've got everything connected, then what's the problem

[tender quarry]

thats what im asking too

[frozen falcon]

What do you think

[tender quarry]

that one coal gen second from right

[shy mulch]

Why be aggressive to someone who's attempting to help for free? Fuck off then

[feral geyser]

There is some ineptitude going on, but it ain't the towers

[frozen falcon]

Do you even know what I'm talking about

[tender quarry]

has coal and water entering yet it has a red light

[frozen falcon]

Then why aren't the towers giving any juice

[feral geyser]

Well, have you hooked up the coal gens? 😂

[frozen falcon]

Pipeline MK.1 directly connected to a power line connected to the power tower, ha sno power

The power tower isn't giving any power

[shy mulch]

Obviously we don't. Power grids are very simple and you're not doing it right, somehow, and we're trying to work out what you've done wrong. First step in debugging stuff like this is to simplify it. But if you're just going to be aggressive and insult people then I won't bother

[frozen falcon]

Okay, so do you have any prior context or are you just assuming things

[feral geyser]

You can't connect power poles to the top of the power towers, they have to be connected to the socket on the bottom.

[tender quarry]

red indicator on a generator mean that it cant output power because it isnt connected to anything OR is fuel of nuclear waste if that ever happens

[frozen falcon]

I would like to but sadly they're not being given juice to the main onee

[frozen falcon]

They are

[tender quarry]

power pole to bottom power connector

[dim cradle]

How many bio burners do you have hooked up to the grid, and are any of your coal plants actually fully operational?

[tender quarry]

and the top two for chaining

[frozen falcon]

None, I'm purely coal

[shy mulch]

I'm not assuming anything, I've read some previous messages and didn't understand your setup so asked for clarification, and was met with insults

[dim cradle]

Do you have other coal plants that are already up and running?

[frozen falcon]

I have 3 at my main base but there's little to no water and I'm bringing my power to a big ass lake for more coal gens

[feral geyser]

So how do you expect to get water into them?

[dim cradle]

hmmm

[feral geyser]

Without power?

[dim cradle]

Thought maybe you were having trouble getting the water extractors started without initial power

[tender quarry]

the pipes in the screenshot they sent appear to have water in them

[frozen falcon]

Power tower connected from my main base with power (3 coal gens) jumped to the bigger water pool

[tender quarry]

but the gen isnt connected to a power pole

[gilded steeple]

I'm super new (only 30 hours in), is it better to separate the constructors and assemblers? Whenever I build all of them for my motors, structural frames etc., together I always just end up with a whole lot of messy conveyor belts

[tender quarry]

either that grid blew a fuse and is separate

or gens arent connected

[frozen falcon]

Coal gen wasn't connected, but you ignore the entire message where I said a pipeline MK.1 was which had no power

[tender quarry]

#screenshots message

[feral geyser]

Pipes don't need power

[frozen falcon]

Correct, pipeline MK.1's do though

Pumps I mean

[shy mulch]

Place foundations and spread stuff out a bit

[feral geyser]

Do you mean pipeline PUMP?

[frozen falcon]

Yes

Tomato tomato, really

[feral geyser]

See, sis has been saying the wrong shit and getting mad at everyone else

[frozen falcon]

Both push water

[dim cradle]

Can you go into photo mode, detach your camera, and take an overhead picture or two of the setup?

It's hard to see what the issue is with that one image

[frozen falcon]

I would've insulted if I was actually mad

[frozen falcon]

My photo mode is broken

I go into it and I see a white static hell

[dim cradle]

Then go on the power tower I guess....?

[frozen falcon]

No platform

[dim cradle]

Hard to see what's hooked up where

[frozen falcon]

I'll climb up the mountain

[dim cradle]

I've had simple problems where I didn't notice that my mess of power poles weren't actually connected to each other

[tender quarry]

lemme load up the game

[feral geyser]

Replace it in place with a platform tower

[frozen falcon]

I don't feel like grabbing steel beams

[feral geyser]

They cost the same

[spark sky]

Have you started building on foundations? That can help some with organization.

[tender quarry]

orar press r and then p then fly a detached camera

[frozen falcon]

Too much work to walk back,

[feral geyser]

They cost the same

Tear down the one replace it

[tender quarry]

im gonna load up the game

[frozen falcon]

#screenshots message

No can do chief

[frozen falcon]

Oh okay

[tender quarry]

reset ur filters

[dim cradle]

Lol I'm sinking those BWDs now for 5.9m points/minute. Raining coupons

[frozen falcon]

How

I didn't even know the game had camera filters

I found them on image, still broken

[tender quarry]

they arent on by default

but alr

[frozen falcon]

I think the wire connecting fucked up

[tender quarry]

orar

[frozen falcon]

I replaced it and now it's a power tower with a battery storage

[tender quarry]

check screenshots ill send 2 images

[frozen falcon]

Previously it had no power storage

[feral geyser]

Bro

[frozen falcon]

Which is confusing cause I checked 4 times to make sure the two power towers were connected and satisfactory kept saying they were connected (yes at the top part)

[feral geyser]

What even is happening

[frozen falcon]

Power towers weren't connected and satisfactory lied saying they were

🥀

[tender quarry]

yea

[feral geyser]

I told you there was some sort of ineptitude going on here...

[gilded steeple]

I haven't yet, just on my coal gens. It's weird cause when I was building stuff for phase 2 space elevator like the versatile framework, I end up with one side having short belts while the other side have long belts

[spark sky]

The towers have to be connected to other things from the middle of the tower, the top only connects them to each other.

[frozen falcon]

The towers, yes

[frozen falcon]

They were connected at the top, I checked many times

The first 2 (closest to my base) were connected the same was the last 2 (the inept pair) were

[tender quarry]

orar a red indicator means no connection is its a generator

[shy mulch]

Some people are unteachable and think everything is wrong except themselves

[frozen falcon]

Womp womp

[spark sky]

Again, the top only connects them to each other, to connect them to other things like power generators or machines, you need connections to the connector in the middle of the tower, below the double connections.

[dim cradle]

I think they just had a break in the actual poles on the ground

[frozen falcon]

Yes, so what I did

[frozen falcon]

I think it was the power towers themselves, when I replaced it, it had a power storage on the right

[dim cradle]

Well whatever, fixed now anyway

[frozen falcon]

Inept ahh towers

[feral geyser]

Towers don't just make power storages themselves

[frozen falcon]

Now I can have 2x coal cause so much water

[shy mulch]

"I'm too dumb to do basic stuff myself and want help, but instead of explaining myself ill insult and abuse people who can actually help me"

[frozen falcon]

womp womp

[shy mulch]

Why are people still helping this clown

<@&387163995947270144>

[frozen falcon]

Yeah, the first one was conencted to a power storage but I forgot why I did that, and the last one wasn't connected to the main system

[frozen falcon]

You seem a little mad for a conversation I'm putting two words of effort in to respond

[north cloud]

Hakuna Matata folks

[south idol]

"others cannot give you what you deny yourself"

[feral geyser]

So you made a separate system attached to just a power storage instead of your main grid, drained it, couldn't get power, then blamed the towers for the problem? 😂 😭 🤡

[frozen falcon]

?

I didn't drain any power?

It just wasn't connected to the main system somehow, how do you drain a power storage?

[feral geyser]

By using all of its stored power lol

[north cloud]

9 times out of ten. Pebkac.

[feral geyser]

99 out of 100

[shy mulch]

2 words to respond is more effort than you're putting into the game it seems

[frozen falcon]

I don't actually know why I placed down a power storage

[north cloud]

So double check lines

[frozen falcon]

womp womp

[frozen falcon]

The power towers? I did like 4 times to make sure the top parts were connected

[feral geyser]

But you didnt check the bottom parts

[tender quarry]

a power storage charges WHEN you are consuming less than you are producing and you store that charge

[spark sky]

Power storage is a battery, it gets charged up and when the generators go down it discharges, when the charge is gone, the fuse blows and you need more generators.

[north cloud]

Orar, knock it off with disrespectful womp womp junk. Please and thank you.

[tender quarry]

it DRAINS when your power consumption exceeds power production at any given time

[frozen falcon]

Fine

[north cloud]

Thank you kindly

[tender quarry]

instead of tripping your grid

[frozen falcon]

Oh, so that's their purpose

[tender quarry]

it drains and gives you warning that it is draining

[frozen falcon]

I think I was onto that but I forgot it

[tender quarry]

so you can try to fix an issue with power before your whole grid shuts down

[shy mulch]

I try to help people as much as possible here, but this kind of nonsense really puts me off

[feral geyser]

But somehow the towers are inept

[tender quarry]

was check dms

[frozen falcon]

They are

They thought they were connected because they're dillusional

I had to give them a reality check

[feral geyser]

No, you thought they were connected

[frozen falcon]

My power system is shit cause I forgot why cause I haven't played in months and it kept tripping whe neverything was on

[frozen falcon]

No, I was told they were connected, they're dillusional

[feral geyser]

Who told you?

[shy mulch]

Skill issue

[frozen falcon]

The towers

[spark sky]

How could the tower tell you they were connected?

[feral geyser]

What exactly did the towers say?

Are they in the room with us now?

[frozen falcon]

I click on the top part, drag it to the othe top part, and it says "Already connected with another wire!"

[tender quarry]

orar for future

[frozen falcon]

Omniscient, so yes technically

[feral geyser]

Yes, so you checked the top part

[frozen falcon]

I mean omnipresent

[feral geyser]

But not the bottom parts

[frozen falcon]

And it was topping (so I thought)

[frozen falcon]

It wasn't an issue of the bottom part because the towers weren't connected

[spark sky]

Yeah, it's connected to a tower. That doesn't say it's connected to power.

[tender quarry]

if you see an indicator showing red on a generator it either isnt connected to a pole/tower or it doesnt have fuel or is full on nuclear waste

[frozen falcon]

They weren't truly connected because all the towers were connected to a power storage system, and that tower had no power storage thingy on the right

[frozen falcon]

I know

[feral geyser]

This is literally just a skill issue

[frozen falcon]

Tower issue*

[feral geyser]

Nope

[frozen falcon]

The towers need to straighten up

[spark sky]

The power storage "thingy" doesn't show up if the grid doesn't have any power storage.

[feral geyser]

You hooked them up wrong

Get good, nub

[frozen falcon]

Nope

[frozen falcon]

Correct

[frozen falcon]

I am skilled (80 hours in, still on phase 2)

(I'm taking my time, trust me)

[feral geyser]

🎻 🤏

[frozen falcon]

Pinching a guitar?

[feral geyser]

Bad player

[frozen falcon]

I don't play the violin

So yes I am a bad violin player

[feral geyser]

Just refund the game

If you're having problems with towers, there's no hope

[frozen falcon]

The towers are having problems with me because I'm too skilled

[spark sky]

@frozen falcon So, get this, the top of each tower can connect to 3 other towers, no more. If you try to connect another tower it will say it has no more connections left. That's the same with power poles. If you try to connect it to a tower it's already connected to, then it will say it's already connected. That still doesn't connect the power grid to generators. You have to connect generators to the connection in the middle of the tower. I think it connect to 4 other devices/power poles.

[runic sand]

👀👀👀

I have waited years for this

It’s really here!

[frozen falcon]

I did the power towers just werent connected (despite SAYING they were) 🥀

[feral geyser]

Pics or gtfo

Quit clowning, nub

[frozen falcon]

They're connected now so I can't but you can trust me

[feral geyser]

I can't even stand you

Much less trust you

[frozen falcon]

I'd hope you wouldn't stand on me so thanks

[spark sky]

At this point, I don't know that I can trust you to pet a doggo.

[frozen falcon]

I know how to pet dogs (so I've heard)

[shy mulch]

A brand new player who's just started somehow has a "bug" that nobody else has ever seen, including players with thousands of hours, and the evidence of this "bug" is "trust me bro"
Embarassing. Go back to minecraft if you can't understand absolute basics

[frozen falcon]

good for you matey

That's a nice tale to hear

[shy mulch]

This game has an age advisory of 10+
You should ask your parents to refund it

[frozen falcon]

good for you matey

That means you're not allowed to play the game, right?

[feral geyser]

"I know you are but what am i"

Spoken like a true nub

[shy mulch]

was thinking the same thing, this kid is embarassing

[frozen falcon]

good for you matey

[frozen falcon]

?

Am I not allowed to ask questions?

[feral geyser]

Unfortunately, yes you are

[frozen falcon]

I mean if he's not a little kid he can just say he's not 🤷‍♂️

[frozen falcon]

Stone a man for asking questions, smh smh

[shy mulch]

You've got a horrific attitude, if you want to ask questions then ask them respectfully and put some basic effort in first, we're not here to play the game for you. You're basically right at the very start of the game and putting zero effort in to understanding stuff. This isn't the game for you

[feral geyser]

You are baby

Baby nub nub

[frozen falcon]

good for you matey

[shy mulch]

Don't lower yourself to this child's level

[feral geyser]

Nub nub wah wah wires no work

[frozen falcon]

Nah, hella skilled and 105 years old

[frozen falcon]

Your wires don't work? Or..

[feral geyser]

1+0+5=6

[frozen falcon]

Oh good job, you learning math?

[south canyon]

who is being acused of being a kid

[frozen falcon]

I dunno, I said a moderately aggressive message to a dude, hit him with a few womp womps (to odd effectivity) and now he's mad

[remote crest]

Is there a way to do diagonal foundations without clipping (please don't rip me apart like that orar guy, I'm a noob)

[south canyon]

Use mouse sroll wheel

[feral geyser]

Sadly not without clipping

[south canyon]

Corner foundations don't exist, closest thing you can do is orner ramp

[feral geyser]

We need triangle half-foundations asap

[remote crest]

I'm on console 🥲

[feral geyser]

Orar, shut up

[frozen falcon]

What about mass selections for stuff like SAM that's super far away that I throw 30 portable miners in and don't wanna manually select

[remote crest]

My day is ruined 😭@feral geyser
Thanks anyways guys lol

[frozen falcon]

You didn't say please

[remote crest]

What does F.E.E.T. stand for?

[stone python]

fully errect erotic teases

[feral geyser]

Forward Exploration and Examination Team 🫡 at your service

[shy mulch]

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<@&387163995947270144> really sorry to bother you again, but why is this clown still here

[remote crest]

@feral geyser I think you're wrong, Chaous seems like they know what they're talking about

[frozen falcon]

I stopped talking to you, you proceeded to re-engage with an insult

[turbid merlin]

Is your first name bob?

And are you doing an unboxing?

[remote crest]

I'm so lost lol what's that mean

[turbid merlin]

Bob the necromancer

[south pecan]

bub

[frozen falcon]

Reference is lost on me

[feral geyser]

Cuz you are too young, baby boy

[turbid merlin]

Reference wasn’t for you. So that’s fine

It’s a vine from years ago

[frozen falcon]

Googled it, looks familar but that's probably because he's a plague doctor

[feral geyser]

I mean... maybe on certain days

[remote crest]

That's hilarious, I've never seen these before, fantastic pull 😂

[turbid merlin]

Glad to be of comedic service

[dim cradle]

I'm going to make the dumb mistake of trying to keep my BWD factory up while creating another one of the phase 5 parts.

time for the first grid shutdown in a while 🫡

[shy mulch]

Expand your power first if that's at risk

[turbid merlin]

Full send into the abyss

[dim cradle]

I can't, my power restriction is geo and sloop energy only (with some leftover coal plants)

There is no more energy there's just me hoping my batteries are enough

[shy mulch]

Ooh nice restriction, in that case you just need a massive array of power storages

[remote crest]

If I put a pump on a vertical pipe, does the head lift count beyond that pipe?

[dim cradle]

Not really, geo energy doesn't vary that much but yeah

these spikes from the machines do...

[feral geyser]

It reaches however high for the mark of pump

[remote crest]

Like, I already have the pipes pumped up 17 meters of head lift, if extend the pipe another 17 meters with another pump, does it work?

[feral geyser]

Yep

[remote crest]

Neat!

[stone python]

just remember pumps reset headlift, they are not additive

[shy mulch]

that's the idea though, if you have a very large amount of power storages, then you can safely have more power drain than your peak power production for a while, long enough to complete the elevator parts you need

[wicked nacelle]

Elevator part power requirements are tiny compared to your overall factory. No need to do any specific planning

[remote crest]

I have no idea what u mean by that

[stone python]

it means that when you place a new pump, your headlift is reset to zero, and then the pump adds 20 or 50 to the headlift from that pump

so if you place 3 in a line, the leftover headlift doesnt get added to the next

[wicked nacelle]

Also some things not called pumps mess with your headlift

[remote crest]

Ohhhhh thank you!

[hollow schooner]

Not sure if it's just me but I started playing again after a few months and the whole game just looks... AI generated. I have frame generation turned off and only at 75% but all the shadows look terrible with horrible flickering even though most of my settings are high/ultra. Is this just me or a bug?

[urban bobcat]

I've gotten power slugs from lizzardoggos and does it count to the limited amount of slugs in the map? if that make sense..

[frozen falcon]

Does SAM stand for Sentient Anti Matter?

[toxic glade]

A deos satisfactory have Xbox servers/ console ones just asking please

Like dedicated ones for 24/7 use

[exotic needle]

Sentient Alien Matter I believe

[shy mulch]

No it doesn't, slugs on the map are not affected at all, any you collect from doggos are bonus

[urban bobcat]

SWEET thanks

[exotic needle]

You can eventually automate power shards so the cap on slugs available doesnt really matter

[urban bobcat]

I mean yeah but still

doggos giving me power shards are sick

[exotic needle]

They are beautiful creatures

[dim cradle]

#screenshots message I dunno if this is gonna hold up, but I'm trying...

15Gwh of storage total

[verbal cloud]

idk if this is the right chat but is Satisfactory complete crossplay or no?

[exotic needle]

Just between consoles, not PC

[shy mulch]

I'm so proud someone got the units right, well being pedantic it would be GWh but close enough, so many people get GW and GWh confused 😄

Hard to say if it'll be enough without knowing how long you are running over, and what your average will be

You should be able to calculate it precisely though, if the mood takes you

[dim cradle]

I'm just doing these AI servers while still producing 2 BWD/min for the points

hopefully it'll hold up to 256

[shy mulch]

how long will it take to produce 256 for the elevator

[dim cradle]

the only reason the grid is at 81% is because some of the batteries were just put down so it didn't get time to charge

I think it may actually be charging

just very, very slowly

because it's at 82% now

[dim cradle]

I think I'm doing 2/min?

So about 2 hours I guess. I had to underclock it to half

[shy mulch]

Okay so for 2 hours, if you have 15GWh stored, that means you can run at 7.5GW over your power production for 2 hours

[dim cradle]

yeah I think it'll be fine

... well maybe...

[shy mulch]

You only seem to be about 3.5GW over your power production, so those storages will take around 4 hours to discharge

[dim cradle]

It's not running consistently over it anyway, it's zigzagging around it and more than half the time it seems to be under

but it's so hard to math it because the geo is varying too

[shy mulch]

You should be able to easily calculate the average from your geos though

[pine patrol]

liar

[frozen falcon]

Alr

Will I be given more lore (besides interactions with SAM having the AI go insane, I'm on phase 2 still) about SAM as the game progresses?

[dim cradle]

It does work, you might have set it up wrong though

[dim cradle]

It's probably easier to just visually inspect how much the usage curve spends above and below the geo line. I'm at 83% now so I think... it is actually charging, not discharging

So probably fine then.

It's charging incredibly slowly, so I'm basically on the razor's edge though.

[unborn nova]

is there any purpose for alot of alternate recipes that seem just 5x more inconvenient than the original?

[shy mulch]

Yeah, it's a balance between putting effort in to calculate it precisely vs eyeballing it. If you want to be absolutely sure of course you can run the numbers, but tbh at a glance you seem to be completely safe for now

[dim cradle]

Some of them can be more convenient for other people, it just depends on what you have set up.

[shy mulch]

all recipes have a purpose, some of them won't necessarily suit you, depends on what resources you have nearby / suitable

[dim cradle]

Some of them are technically always more efficient than others I guess. For instance any "Pure <insert ingot here>", since water is basically unlimited, and so is energy kind of

The tradeoff is just that refineries are bloody massive

[pine patrol]

how then?

[shy mulch]

Are there particular recipes that you are wondering about, maybe we can tell you a use case

[unborn nova]

yea i use some of them like the cast screws, but some seem sorta odd, i do notice some of them use the same materials but create more

[dim cradle]

I mean we'd have to see what you got set up to see

[unborn nova]

none rn that come to mind

[pine patrol]

i just deleted one of statuons gimmie a sec

[high peak]

Hello, I have a question: if my friend buys Satisfactory on Xbox and I have it on Steam, can we play together?

[pine patrol]

catastrophic error

[dim cradle]

make sure that the station is actually facing the right direction, too.

That's an easy mistake to make

[pine patrol]

?

[stone python]

no

Satisfactory does not allow PC and console players to play together.

for now

[high peak]

deam..

thx

[fierce granite]

curve edge of the station to the outside (][][]------[][][) and and an engine on both ends of the train

[stone python]

sorry to be the bearer of bad news

[pine patrol]

mine was the opposite 😔

[high peak]

It's fine, at least it's already on consoles

[dim cradle]

Ah you got an answer here, I posted an image in the screenshots chat to help too lo

[stone rose]

Anyone else having issues trying to join a crossplatform friend?

[stone python]

see: #satisfactory message

[stone rose]

Thanks

Wait, they’re on Xbox and I’m on PlayStation

[stone python]

oh, then im not sure then

[pine patrol]

my dog just howled out of nowwhere she has NEVER EVEN HOWLED BEFORE shes like 6

Scared the crap outa me

[wise junco]

thats a cool story

[abstract heron]

What did i miss now?

[south canyon]

TIL you can throw nobelisks

What gas do obelisks emit?

[shy mulch]

If you weren't throwing them, what else were you doing with them?

[south canyon]

Placing them

Gently

[worthy cosmos]

i got so much color on me

[dim cradle]

Managed to sloop the blender making the bio sculpting thing too

Turns out when you get to phase 5, it's always better to make more buildings instead of overclocking existing ones, the power difference is massive...

Or even making more and then underclocking them...

100% converter is like 400 MW max. 4 25% converters is 64 each

savings of like 36%

Well when you're power constrained anyway, and obviously unless you need to sloop. Slooping encourages concentration.

[feral geyser]

Same gas as the gas pillars

[south canyon]

Gas pillars then

I thought they were called obelisks?

[feral geyser]

I thought you were misspelling "nobelisk" like

There are naturally occurring gas pillars, and there are also gas nobelisks you can craft.

[shy mulch]

There's Gas Pillars, and Gas Nobelisk
Which thing are you talking about?

[south canyon]

Gas pillars

[feral geyser]

Well, according to the Refined Power mod, the gas they emit can be refined into methane

So something based on that

[south canyon]

Tekto thingie....

In NTM:Space, Tektonic Crude can be refined into Methane iirc

[feral geyser]

I wouldn't know 🤷‍♂️

[south canyon]

(Completely unrelated mod, it's for Minecraft. But tektonic crude is also a dark green)

It's probably some kind of hydrocarbon

Do the SAM/Reanimated SAM/SAM Fluctuator have "glitchy" textures?

[feral geyser]

Yes

[south canyon]

Good to know it isn't just my monitor. Or maybe it is.

Also, is it safe to hold Reanimated SAM?

[solemn glacier]

i am pretty sure

[feral geyser]

Yes

The only thing that will kill you from holding it is nuclear stuff (not counting nuke nobs)

[dim cradle]

SAM isn't radioactive no.

[south canyon]

Why would it be?

[feral geyser]

It wouldn't, that's why it's safe to hold

[dim cradle]

I mean why wouldn't it be, it's weird transdimensional dark matter, one wouldn't know what to expect with it.

But yeah it isn't radioactive

[south canyon]

digamma matter

[dim cradle]

Welp time to do other stuff for about 4 hours and then phase 5 will be done.

[solemn crystal]

if you pour water on a rock, youre being inefficient, go back to making more factories, FICSIT doesn’t pay you for pouring water on rocks

[south canyon]

They could be busy drawing a blue circle around their acoustic guitar

[solemn crystal]

But would that still be efficient?

[south canyon]

Yes

It makes the acoustic guitar have a blue circle drawn around it, fufilling the person's goals

[solemn crystal]

yes, but FICSIT doesn’t pay you for fulfilling your goals, they dont pay you for exploitation either, but its what FICSIT wants, and they get their way for some reason

[feral geyser]

Wait, you guys get paid?

I thought i was here for debt slavery

[south canyon]

Satisfactory oil processing is so NOT amsterdamptomatic

[solemn crystal]

We are, but we also arent

We just came here for fun

[south canyon]

iim having intrusive thoughts

you only need a few thousand smart plating to complete Satisfactory right???

what if I don't fully automate smart plating...

oh nvm there's no point

[pine patrol]

#screenshots message not sure where else to reply since it auto deletes my messages without abscreenshot but thank you it was solved a bit ago, and im sorry i didnt realize the trains were sensitive to stuff like that @dim cradle

[barren arch]

good morning

[south canyon]

hi

im mentally insane

NOT AUTOMATING? in a factory AUTOMATION game?

[barren arch]

fr

[pine patrol]

the parts aint that bad just rotors and reinforced plates IIRC the automation wouldnt take too long

[barren arch]

ill have to do a thing which will take a good time

[south canyon]

i've automated everything except the plates themselves

[pine patrol]

wouldnt be that bad then assuming you can afford drawing from them

[south canyon]

drawing?

oh

yeah I can

got a stockpile of basically everything

[pine patrol]

Epic

just said that bc i have a few machines that feed straight into another machine that cannot afford pretty much any drawing without it messing up the other one

[south canyon]

Should I bother making high throughput for smart plates

Also, why are balancers/manifolds used?

[pine patrol]

wdym?

[grizzled orchid]

You probably are already using a manifold , balancers take a bit more setup also you need 4300 smart plates in total.

[pine patrol]

i use manifolds and i have only completed phase 2

[south canyon]

Yeah but

Why are they used, instead of just a line of splitters, to split enough for one machine off

[grizzled orchid]

Using splitters like that is a manifold

[pine patrol]

Yeah thats litterally what a manifold is#screenshots message

mason do be typing

[grizzled orchid]

I was trying to come up with a good reason for why use load balancing but ended up deleting it as the best I got was because some people think they are neat 😅.

[pine patrol]

I think manifolds look better than anything

balencers are used to balence evenly

manifolds cut in half each time an extra machine is added

assuming the machines consumtion rate total is the same as the production of the input

Its not an issue if its over the input production

[bold ice]

Recycled plastic & rubber recipes are ridiculously efficient to create either one. Just add fuel, preferably dilluted and you get so easy plastic & rubber.

[cunning haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1017647033059909724/1407113219037728902/togif.gif

[barren arch]

im now making 2km of tubes and convenior belts

[cunning haven]

Awh

[pine patrol]

laugh at this man

[cunning haven]

It's a cute gif

[pine patrol]

cat

[grizzled orchid]

I agree that manifolds look nicer and are much easier to maintain/scale , sure blue prints can make setting up balancers easier but not my thing although get it's more important in other factory games.

[pine patrol]

how much are you transporting? Better question how many varitys of items

[barren arch]

i dont know.

but its like rubber, plastic, etc

[pine patrol]

Bro is building a convayor bus without know tf they transporting

[pine patrol]

if its less than like 8 id just train it

[barren arch]

maybe one day

[pine patrol]

as in the vehicle the way i worded it was weird

[barren arch]

lol

but im like 60% done

im dumb? ye

[grizzled orchid]

By tubes do you mean pipe line or hyper tubes ?

[remote crest]

Hey y'all, so I'm running a manifold system for my coal generators, and the last 2 generators aren't getting any coal

The belts are mk 1 and there r no overclocked generators, halp

[barren arch]

pipe line

i forgot the name

[barren arch]

on mine i did the other one system which i forgot the name, but manifold were not working

[grizzled orchid]

Are they getting coal and water ?

[bronze atlas]

are your belts delivering more than the amount all your generators are consuming?

if they are delivering equal to total consumption, then they will eventually get enough it will just take a really long time before they all run consistently, as is the nature of manifolds

if they are delivering less than the max usage of your gens, then you ahve to either lessen the number of gens or reduce their clock rate so they use less, or add in more coal so it increase the amount available above how much its consuming.

[pine patrol]

increase the tier of conveyors lower your production rate (power production) if all else fails swap to balencers

[grizzled orchid]

Also check the output of the miner to ensure you can support that many generators

[pine patrol]

injected manifold would also help

[remote crest]

So specifically these lines are coming from a pure node running on mk 2 then I used a splitter to send 60 to 2 sets of 4 generators, I added in coal and it was running out fairly quick, I'll try a manifold and see if that fixes it

@grizzled orchid funny enough the water is working great lol

@barren arch it's a load balancer, I'll give that a shot rq, thanks!

@pine patrol what the heck is injected manifold lol

[barren arch]

if u want i can send u what i did on mine (its pure 🍝 )

[pine patrol]

an injected manifold is where in the middle of your manifold you put a merger that feeds into it

it helps get items to the end

[stray wagon]

I have a question I got the game recently and I was wondering why my coal generators are running out of coal I have a mark 2 miner but the problem seems I can’t empty it out fast enough for my 6 coals gens

What is the issue or is there a way to empty the miners out faster?

[grizzled orchid]

You have mk1 belts so you are bottle necked at 60 items per minute so it doesn't matter how much the miner is pulling up. If you have a mrk 2 miner though you should have access to better belts ?

[pine patrol]

that too

[bronze atlas]

You seem to say its using mark 1 belts, if its a mark 1 belt before the 1st splitter after the miner, then that is the problem, because its only sending enough ore to send 30 in each direction instead of 60. If so, that means you can only run 2 coal gens on each branch.

If its a mark 2 belt before the 1st splitter than it should be fine with 4 gens down each line.

[pine patrol]

how many gens do you have necromancer

[bronze atlas]

he said 2 lines of 4, im just not sure if he said he was using mark 2 belts before his first splitter or not, but he did say sending 60 to each of the 2 lines, so maybe he is

[pine patrol]

if you have coal you should have T3

i think?

[south canyon]

coal is t3

mk2 miner is t4

[pine patrol]

ye

[remote crest]

I'm sorry for the confusion here's my set up:

2 pure nodes
2 normal nodes

Mk2 belts running from the pure nodes to the coal generators

Mk1 belts for the normal nodes

I split the mk 2 belts into 2 mk 1 belts

Each mk1 belt is running to a group of 4 coal generators

For a total of 6 mk 1 belts (supposedly carrying 60 coal /min)

And 24 coal generators

[grizzled orchid]

Did you just start the generators as each has to fill with 100 coal buffer which can take some time

[pine patrol]

those last gens are getting 2.5 coal a MINUTE

assuming they are on the same line

i didnt read the entire thing mb

[pine patrol]

yup just put em all on standby except maybe 1-2 just for the drill power

[remote crest]

I tried filling the generators up with coal and they were still losing pretty quick

[bronze atlas]

okay in that case theoretically as long as each mk1 belt is full before it reaches the gens, it should be enough to run all 4.

Its just that since splitters in a manifold are top heavy they have to fill up before all of them will be running consistantly.

[pine patrol]

your setup lines up the last gens will get (if i did my math correctly) 15 per minute and do you know what the coal power plants need? 15 per minute

i would disconnect the gens from main power grid and have 1-3 running (preferably the first in a row) to keep the water and coal running

[grizzled orchid]

Yeah suppose it's the one downside to manifolds is having to let things saturate but generally it's easy to work around

[pine patrol]

Oh and wait until all the coal gens and conveyors are filled up

[remote crest]

Okay so I replaced all the conveyors with mk 2 and filled up the generators again and they seem to be working now

Even though the conveyors were only moving 60 per minute!

But I'm probably just dumb 😂

Thank you all for your help!!

[pine patrol]

the mk 2 just make the filling process faster it would still fill with mk 1 just a lot slower

[steady mesa]

Anyone know a good, easy bank to rob? 😂 It's finally out on console but $40 is a no go at the moment. I've never waited so hard for payday🤣

[bronze atlas]

might have to take some old stuff to a pawn shop

[orchid pine]

Do you have one or 2 kidneys. in what condition are they

[bronze atlas]

or take like 80 old games to a gamestop maybe

[grizzled orchid]

The half foundations having a rough and finished edge is not very satisfactory 😅

[bronze atlas]

imo - even more unsatisfactory is that the foundations that are not square cannot take patterns.

[grizzled orchid]

Haven't really tried those out yet although do have them. Surprised there isn't a curved wall for them though or if there is I missed it.

[somber monolith]

Finally done with my coal power #screenshots message

[steady mesa]

A-Ha! Hold on, where's my knife😂

[orchid pine]

Do it in hospital because hear me out your in a bed and theres only so many hours for visitors

[dense violet]

banks carry almost no money, bad target

plus it'll be a federal crime.

[steady mesa]

I don't care. I'll play this in jail if I have to🤣

Nah but seriously. It's actually well priced. I'll wait for payday.

[somber monolith]

Is there a easier way to transport sulphur and coal across the map before trains

I don’t wanna spend a hour building a big long conveyor belt

[orchid pine]

Trucks

[sterile blade]

Sushi is Shrek, Sushi is life :3

[grizzled orchid]

What do you need it for ? I assume black powder ?

[somber monolith]

Yeah making some noboliks

[south canyon]

help

#screenshots message

[somber monolith]

But I make my steel across the other side of green feilds im getting my sulphur from nearby the big coal lake

[south canyon]

:reading:

[mellow spruce]

How do i tame a Doggo?

[somber monolith]

Drop pale berry’s in front of it

[grizzled orchid]

Do you have the mercer sphere tech tree unlocked ?

[south canyon]

Wiki has a turtorial

[mellow spruce]

Ah okay thanks then i fought i need that baconmushroom😅

[somber monolith]

Yes but that doesn’t help since I can’t make the nobalisks from that

[south canyon]

Dimensional Depot I assume?

[somber monolith]

I’m making a automatic Nobalisk factory just 5 a min

[grizzled orchid]

I'd just run power out to them and have miners dump sulphur and coal in to the dimensional depots, pull out materials as needed and chuck them in to setup at base.

[somber monolith]

That’s more effort than just building a big line cause it’s manual and only can take 15pm at the moment for me

What’s needed to make the power augmenter?

[grizzled orchid]

10 somersloops and some computers mostly. As for the nobleisks only manual part is moving the material once in to a bin otherwise you could setup a truxk route since it's a pretty open area.

[south canyon]

is there any way to extend a conveyor lift

[somber monolith]

Yes place a foundation at the top then put a conveyor lift hole in it and then go to the bottom and place the conveyor lift and look up at the lift hole it’ll connect at any distance

If u don’t understand I can send a SS

[south canyon]

hmmmmm

okay so it doesn't work if you place the top lift first

that's 😡

[somber monolith]

Yeah you gotta do bottom it’s a bit annoying

[south canyon]

wait

what, you CAN go top to bottom???????????????????????????

[somber monolith]

You can?

[grizzled orchid]

Yeah it just needs one connection point to start then can go up or down, not even sure it needs the connection point but can't say I've tried to place one with out it.

[south canyon]

i think? i demolished the part that was sticking out of the bottom, and the part on the top stayed

ngl I'm realy sad conveyor floor holes aren't actually holes

[grizzled orchid]

I assume hyper tube ones are though if you just want a hole ?

[fervent garden]

I have a question

[forest mirage]

How do you go about demolishing everything? Like do you place a bunch of storage boxes off to the side? 🫠🫠🫠

[zenith fractal]

personally I would just move to another area

rebuild there then tear down the previous factory and repurpose it

[civic reef]

with pipe manifolds should i keep the pipe tier consistent across the board?

[fervent garden]

Is there a specific sandbox mode?

I just started and wanted to mess around with stuffs

[late epoch]

@fervent garden use the advanced settings when your setting up the world your playing in

[fervent garden]

Everything's enabled but I only have four things in my build thingy

[edgy swift]

I wish I had friends that I could play with 24/7..

[late epoch]

@fervent garden i believe you still have to research it on console

[civic reef]

#1201555265942724758

[fervent garden]

How

[edgy swift]

Yes I need. I've been on there

[late epoch]

@fervent garden you have to start with the hub and research the tiers

[fervent garden]

Okay so I should've started with tier one and just speed through it all

[late epoch]

@fervent garden honestly it teaches you alot going from landing to teir 1 so enjoy

[somber monolith]

Finally finished my big steel factory #screenshots message

[fervent garden]

Ada called me a bum

[somber monolith]

Is it true

[fervent garden]

Yes :c

[somber monolith]

Ada the goat

[fervent garden]

Car fun

Vroom vroom

[peak wasp]

why all good sulfuric node are in south east of the map ? T__T

[fervent garden]

I just started but I'm pretty sure Ada gets off on torture and suffering

[mortal ginkgo]

it is kind of designed to be a turbo + rocketfuel zone.

got everything it needs when it comes to default recipe

[peak wasp]

oh oky, thanks!

now i only need to create a train route between starting zone and the extreme south east XD

[remote orbit]

How exactly do the conveyer lifts work? Like ik they move stuff vertically but I've got a mk2 hooked up to both my storage containers and the top one has all the slots filled but some of the items aren't fully stacked even tho there's clearly some in the bottom one, is it random or does it go left to right top to bottom?

[south canyon]

It depends on if you placed it on an input or output first

[remote orbit]

But wouldnt it be siphoning everything to whichever it hooked up to? I clicked between torn and nothing had moved

[south canyon]

Yeah, it's set up wrong

[remote orbit]

And there definitely hooked up properly cause whenever id grab a stack sobering from the bottom one would instantly take its place

[south canyon]

Try placing it again-or double check that the conveyors are flowing correctly (It will show you when you try placing Conveyors)

[grizzled orchid]

Items get moved from the last filled slot but if that item has no space in the other container it will jam the conveyer till there is space

[remote orbit]

So even if there are items that aren't full stacks it won't add to that stack?

[grizzled orchid]

If they are the same item they should but it won't smart sort things if it's a mishmash

[remote orbit]

Hmm weird, cause I've got a stack of like 40 smth smart plates and its not moving any from the bottom container to the top even when there's some in there

[grizzled orchid]

Is the conveyor full with something else ?

[remote orbit]

I'll have to have a look tomorrow afternoon and see if I can figure it out

[remote orbit]

Possibly, I didn't check to see if the conveyor had smth in it before I got off 😅

[grizzled orchid]

It's probably that, also the smart plates need to be in the last spot to get moved otherwise it will just jam again

[remote orbit]

Ohh is that what has to be done with everything thats not a full stack?

[grizzled orchid]

I assume the storage bins have a bunch of mixed items in them ? It will try to transfer the bottom right stack first , if there is no space it will just sit on the on the conveyer and jam it so if you want the smart plates moved then yeah need to have them in the last spot and a cleared conveyer

[remote orbit]

Ohhh, and yeah, ove currently got everything im making being piped into the bins 😅 im not producing enough of the stuff from the assemblers to really warrant having a bin for every resource

[flint grail]

Is there a limit to the programmable splitter?

[shy mulch]

Volume doesn't matter. It's almost always best to have a different storage container for everything

[dense violet]

64 commands on one side I believe

[shy mulch]

Storage containers are not limited and are very easy to build. You don't need any justification to create separate storages,

[flint grail]

Ah, I thought it was 23, so I got confused when I could add a 24th, lol

[shy mulch]

If that's not enough you can chain them

[shy mulch]

Curious why you thought it was 23, seems like a random number

[dense violet]

that's just something I vaguely recall. The use case for having any prog splitter is fairly low though

[remote orbit]

This is true, but then if have to completely have to over haul my base (again) and im not exactly looking forward to doing that

[flint grail]

I felt like someone told me this before

[flint grail]

looks at my massive storage warehouse

[dense violet]

the only time you'd ever really use a prog splitter there is if you've got 1 belt that is going to be split to more than 1 branch being sorted

probably easier to just snake the belt around the branches

[shy mulch]

Sounds like you're at a fairly early part of the game so your base probably isn't that big. Use it as a learning experience, there will be many of these moments as you go along. It's quite common to actually not tear down a base, leave the old one as it is, disconnect the power, so you can go back to it if needed, and go just create another one around some other nodes. There's loads of resource nodes you won't run out

[dense violet]

otherwise smart splitter with <item> and <overflow> does the trick

[flint grail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1m84j70/i_think_my_friend_is_a_little_crazy_about_storage/

That was in our Vanilla playthrough

This one is much more efficient

[dense violet]

looks very smart spliterable.

how many belts of mixed items are you bringing in?

[flint grail]

The excess feeds into a sink before going into a second floor for more processing

[flint grail]

Right now? 5 trains and 1 truck

[shy mulch]

The awkward moment when there's an 'extreme example' with a whole reddit story about it and I'm sitting here with an even bigger system thinking it was normal... 🤷

[dense violet]

and you have the same item mixed in on multiple platforms?

[flint grail]

The playthrough we're on now, the warehouse has 5 floors

[flint grail]

Ye, bottom bus is the main feed, top one is from the above floors and an inventory dump chest

[shy mulch]

Do you really want to know the size of mine 😭

[dense violet]

right. I would have just made sure every item had a unique drop off. I've never been a fan of intentionally mixing things like that

[flint grail]

Well, each train goes to a spearate factory

[dense violet]

yeah, multi stop trains. Just design in a very different way

[flint grail]

No, 1 train per factory

[dense violet]

oh wait so do you manifold items into the platforms?

instead of dedicated an item to a platform?

[flint grail]

Ye

[dense violet]

oh yeah taht's why. don't do that and you can easily avoid progs

[flint grail]

Eh, I have priority switches controlling the power to each factory, so I can remotely turn them off in emergencies

[dense violet]

in general, imo, it's much simpler to always direct feed belts with specific numbers onto a platform

easier to manage throughputs

[flint grail]

If the industrial storage crates had more than two inputs, I would do that

[fervent garden]

Ada talks too much

[flint grail]

Wait until you install mods and meet ElevADA

[fervent garden]

No way she just said "Choo choo motherfucker"

[shy mulch]

I have 5 stations, each with 4 platforms, being fed by can't remember how many trains, probably about 20. Bringing in every item from all over the map, there's an array of over 200 smart splitters ensuring that I can handle 24000/min of everything, regardless of which train it comes in on. Each item is fed into 4 storages, and here's the piece do resistance... I don't even consider this a storage warehouse, that whole thing is just a buffer that leads into my factory, which has a 1.1km x 300m logistics floor 🤮

Some people might say I overdid it

[fervent garden]

#console

[flint grail]

Oof

[fervent garden]

I started almost 5 hours ago

Not me playing satisfactory for four hours not even knowing

[stone python]

start after work on a friday, have drinks and snacks at your desk, next thing you know you see light coming through the windows

[fervent garden]

SUCKS FOR YOU I DONT HAVE A JOBBB WOOOO

[pine patrol]

Is there a way to keep this on the right? I have the station in a way where it will flip the train so its always facing forward to properly dock on the next one the issue is every time you pass that sign with the train it flips and its becoming a pain to flip it each and every time #screenshots message

that is a bit longer ill put it in the questions channel

[dense violet]

it doesn't change automatic trains. Don't worry about it

[pine patrol]

yippe

[dense violet]

it only affects manual trains

[bold ice]

I'd never put excess resources into sink, then you'd just waste them instead of efficient usage.

[pine patrol]

i dont know why it does in the first place there should be a switch on the side of it to toggle if you want it to do that or not

[dense violet]

that is the switch you toggle

[hard ivy]

Trains in automatic switch them to the direction they're going in

And in manual you can switch them with A/D when you're driving the train

[dense violet]

but as I said, only matters for when you're driving manually. Which is probably very rare

[flint grail]

Well, if I don't need them, they would have to go in there, otherwise the belt gets jammed up

Plus, I'm pretty sure three industrial storage containers of an item is enough

[hard ivy]

? Resources sitting in a container not being used are even more useless than when sunk. At least from sinking you're getting points

[bold ice]

Just saying it's still waste of resources. If you create more than you use then you are not using enough.

[fervent garden]

What's the limit of freight cars I can use

[dense violet]

points are useful for the shop

[shy mulch]

Oh I've definitely had that experience 😂

[flint grail]

4 per engine

[dense violet]

sink a ton of crap

[hard ivy]

Resource nodes are infinite. It's impossible to waste them

[dense violet]

also unless you create infinite storage you'll have to sink stuff to continue producing anyway

[hard ivy]

There is no limit afaik

[flint grail]

And don't forget about by-product

[pine patrol]

Whats the best jetpack fuel?

[bold ice]

Ionized fuel

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch jetpack

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=jetpack

[pine patrol]

👍

[pine patrol]

i needed to know that command existed holy

this gonna solve like 80 percent of my problems

[hard ivy]

Depends for what. For building - LBF. For exploration - probably ionized. For combat - probably rocket

[dense violet]

it's mostly used to point people to the wiki. So you can then just know the wiki exists and use it's search function 😛

[shy mulch]

You don't need to use that command to go to the wiki. It's just a website, go to it and browse/search. The command is just a shortcut to put a search result link in the chat

[pine patrol]

why tf is LBF better than fuel i hate it

mainly bc i spent like 5 hours making a fuel setup

[fervent garden]

TRAIN GO CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKER

[dense violet]

much longer burn time

[shy mulch]

LBF is harder to make, makes sense it has some kind of advantage

[pine patrol]

i meant burn time wise

[pine patrol]

damn

[dense violet]

oh you hate that it's better, I got you

[pine patrol]

ye

[wheat musk]

Just built my first somewhat large scale factory

[fervent garden]

Okay uhm

[versed mesa]

👋

[fervent garden]

Satisfactory is too addicting

[shy mulch]

Large factories are the best

If you have a lot of time