satisfactory

[weak radish]

cry harder i enjoy it

ur def my bronze jg kekw

[reef basin]

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[leaden turret]

<@&387163995947270144> baby troll need a timeout

[weak radish]

cry waaaa

[warm pendant]

yeah doing that rn since i can reroll them (like onces) havent tried it yet

[weak radish]

waaaaa

[hard ivy]

oh damn a double moderator ping lmao

[north cloud]

👍

[ornate saffron]

If its your jam ytou can save scum the rerolls too

[sullen gull]

Also remember that there are enough hard drives on the map for every alt. So you should never "miss out" on anything.

[placid stirrup]

Haha get rekt

[warm pendant]

noted thanks guys

[reef basin]

eh, I'd personally just pick anything and get more drives

[warm pendant]

now that i explore more and encounter more enemies i need tha automatic gun with me

nobelisk isn't enough anymore xD

[sullen gull]

The explosive rebar ammo is perfect for clearing rocks/walls as well.

[peak wasp]

should I show you the basement?

do you guys wanna see the basement...its loud down there

[sullen gull]

Well, That's not ominous at all ... 😏

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message

the basement

the basement produces about 20,000mw

[ornate saffron]

no particle accelerators yet i take it?

[peak wasp]

well more of 19,000mw the bonus power bonus from a alien power augmenter

none yet but I unlocked them...I am still trying to renovate

[ornate saffron]

fair

[peak wasp]

I need to take down this floating platform that used to make my old power setup

and a train station

[ornate saffron]

I segmented my powerplant away from the rest of the grid using the Priority power Switch. This way it stays running when i f up my power usage lol

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message

techinally my power setup is away from the rest of my areas

because the power generators are not the same place where fuel is produced

fuel production is a seperate area.

[sullen gull]

Priority power switches are good for setting up a way to "control" factories from any where on the map as well.

[peak wasp]

and that works so well for me because of my pipeline systems

and the fact rocket fuel is a gas so liquid mechanic stuff like pumps are not needed

[dusky aspen]

guys i got a pop up that told me i am playing 2 hours. i swear i started playing 30 minutes ago

[sullen gull]

Funny how that works eh? 😏

[dusky aspen]

yeah

[ornate saffron]

ya that happens.... i got the 8 hour pop up not long ago

[peak wasp]

Hopefully its not 2am for you

[sullen gull]

Not at this moment. But it comes around all too frequently 🤣

[sturdy mural]

damn what a loser

thank you moderators 🔥

[sullen gull]

Some just seem to feel it necessary to try and make others feel as down as they feel 🤷‍♂️

[sturdy mural]

"omg guys did you know about that one game? its the best. oh? you didnt play it? hahaha noob your bad"

the nuke nobelisk in my pocket:

[warm pendant]

typical r-word League player

man hard drives are fun to unlock. im getting alt recipes for making the HMF production little bit fast

[sturdy mural]

not fun to find

[sullen gull]

Not sure what "r-word", there are a few. But at the end of the day, no one knows thier situation. Best to just ignore and move on and more so now that they've been delt with. No sense in perpetuating insults.

[sturdy mural]

(im about to place a radar every 4 foundations to make an elimination grid)

[sullen gull]

Technically, if placed right, you only need 15 towers to cover the whole map

[sturdy mural]

15 to cover it

if you place 2 near one another, and only one has a X
then you know that the X is on the half of the other radar's radius

alsooo

[sullen gull]

I mean, I grasp the concept, just doesn't seem like an "efficient" use of time 😏

[sturdy mural]

#screenshots message
oh
oh no

[dusky aspen]

GUYS my copper wire lines are full. my factory is not good enough

[sturdy mural]

wdym lines are full

[sullen gull]

Mean they aren't using enough on the output side. 🤷‍♂️

[dusky aspen]

conveyor belts are full

only thing that matters now is completing phase 1

[sturdy mural]

anyone knows are there like
any parkour courses

[ornate saffron]

aEvery factory is if you want it to be

[sullen gull]

I've seen some make PvP courses that are similar.

[sturdy mural]

no like
specifically an obstacle course

[twin horizon]

are there any issues with the native controller support? my daughter tried to upgrade the hub, the button showed yellow, and also has a circled X, but pressing X does nothing

[dusky aspen]

why is ADA yapping so much

[peak wasp]

hi alienpower aug, what input want__

[sullen gull]

Alien Matrix

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch apa

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=apa

[peak wasp]

thanks

[dusky aspen]

okay guys. biomass is not as good as i though. it cannot be automated:(

[reef basin]

can, just not fully

[kind fox]

ik its been brought up before when 1,0 came out but are they going to implement an option for nanite
forgot what they said

[twin horizon]

ADA is amazing, and dont you say otherwise

[sturdy mural]

ada is bad

[kind fox]

bhad*

[shrewd palm]

you can get a ridiculous amount of biomass via sloops, but yeah it cant be fully automated

[ornate saffron]

HAve you unlocked trains yet? your view of ADA will change then

[twin horizon]

i have completed the game

[dusky aspen]

i am unlocking phase 2

[cunning siren]

Sloop all 3 stages of processing, that helps a TON

[dusky aspen]

but i don't want to get spaghetti and to get my biomass to every burner i need to walk almost all the time

[sturdy mural]

does ANYONE know why trains here #screenshots message decide to go to the right when they gotta go straight

like literally go there just to come back

[kind fox]

spaghetti is literally inevitable at the start

[empty canyon]

Greetings, quick question, do we know when the Lego factory cart kickstarter will be send out? Have there been estimations?

[shrewd palm]

theres an issue with 4 way intersections that makes them do stuff like that but all the signals look good and ive never heard of that happening with 3 ways so not really sure

[dusky aspen]

i am trying my best to not have spaghetti

[shrewd palm]

dont worry about that too much at the start of the game so long as you dont let it become a habit

[kind fox]

how long have you been playing

[dusky aspen]

at this save. around 3 hours and i have 72 hours

[kind fox]

yeah your still new

[dusky aspen]

i know

[kind fox]

so try to have chaotic neutral setups

once you start making actual factories is when you need to organize

[sturdy mural]

as a 300h save guy

start is spghetti
but yuo'll be crawling out of it soon

this ^

[kind fox]

you will tear down your factories many many many many times and rebuild it

[dusky aspen]

how can you have 300h in one save? my dad finished the game in around 150

[shrewd palm]

decoration/screwing around

[kind fox]

better automation theres more to do than just automate

[shrewd palm]

my main save is like 500 hours and im like halfway through phase 5

[dusky aspen]

okay

[sturdy mural]

autism

[shrewd palm]

that helps too

[dusky aspen]

do i have any fully automated energy at phase 2?

[ornate saffron]

Coal i think so yes

[dusky aspen]

yay

[kind fox]

coal is goated

[hard ivy]

Yeah, coal

[sullen gull]

Eh, one can have a good few hours in one save 🙂 #screenshots message

[kind fox]

when you reach nuclear age, have your coal setup on stand by. you will regret it if you dont

[pale dew]

What can i do with an overproducment of alumina solution? i really dont want to pack it to sink it it would be horrible

[dusky aspen]

OMG HOW?

[kind fox]

i mena i have 2k hours in one cyberpunk save

[shy mulch]

You don't need to stop when you send the space elevator...

[kind fox]

8k hours total

[shrewd palm]

theres a lot to do in this game

[dusky aspen]

yeah but what do people do after that?

[sturdy mural]

challenge themselves

[pale dew]

Grow their factory

the map is really large

[sturdy mural]

like rebuild everything but in the most efficient way

[shy mulch]

Build stuff. Many people consider the entire space elevator to be an elaborate tutorial. Once that's done you actually start to play the game

[sturdy mural]

make everything look good
get an X amount of end game thing per min

[pale dew]

un spaghetti everything

[hard ivy]

use it on more scrap? or don't make the excess?

[pale dew]

well i cant

unless i can

[dusky aspen]

i really want schematics transferring from one world to another. i do not want to waste time looking in the files

[pale dew]

wait

[kind fox]

set goals for yourself for sessions so you dont get burnout mid session

[sturdy mural]

schrodingers solution

[kind fox]

i have very very bad burnout

[cunning siren]

"Sandbox" mode 🤷 some folk enjoy it

[ornate saffron]

ww I set my own goals and meet them, personal Challenges and so on. Like every sandbox game

[sullen gull]

Build "pretty" things 😏 #design-and-architecture message

[fervent dust]

friends, is this coal gen arrangement modded?

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Coal_Generator?file=Coal_Generator_squeezed.png#250%_Miner

am i about to get banned

[reef basin]

don't use outdated wiki

[fervent dust]

...outdated?

[raven axle]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @reef basin

[sturdy mural]

shoutout to the time i started playing, pushed up to oil at once (~60h)
burnout
pushed up to halfway to nuclear powerplant(~270h)
burnout
came back rn to finish it, 326h

[vale quail]

heads up epic is down

[pale dew]

liquid dumping should honestly be in the game

[fervent dust]

oh my goodness

[reef basin]

yes fandom is outdated

[hard ivy]

it literally says that at the top

[silk rose]

pioneers enjoy the process, not the milestones

[ornate saffron]

you can just fill a buffer and manually dump it

[reef basin]

that's the extension probably

[kind fox]

for me its. make iron and copper fully automated
burnout
make copper things (wire and cable) automated
burnout
make iron things (sheet screws, rods) automated
burnout
make reinforced plates automated
doesnt play for months

[hard ivy]

I don't have any extensions related to fandom

[ornate saffron]

wiki.gg is tthe go to

[reef basin]

I don't have any banner on top saying it's outdated 🤔

[fervent dust]

thank you ;w;

[silk rose]

dont use fandom in any case)

we got minecraft wiki and satisfactory wiki

[ornate saffron]

me niether but i just read the landing page (its sayy last update was update 7)then looked else where. i sometimes link it still by mistake as it is often the top search result

[sturdy mural]

why tho (other than like ad flood)

[ornate saffron]

its not up to date.

[ornate saffron]

last update was

Major Update: Update 7 (released 1061 days ago)

[sturdy mural]

oh fair

what if update tho 🤔

[silk rose]

lmao

thats when i started playing

[ornate saffron]

same lol

[silk rose]

i remember that new banner with plutonium cells

i didnt know what was that

there were beacons in the game

and paint things i forgot

[tepid yew]

someone motivate me to start playing satisfactory again.. I really want to but can't bring myself to actually start over again

[silk rose]

i take 1.0 stuff for granted now

[silk rose]

start over

im on 4th save

its better every time

[ornate saffron]

like straight conveyer setting lol

[silk rose]

that feeling when they were talikng about 1.0 stuff on youtube and then i watched totalxclipse breakdown

[reef basin]

use wiki.gg 🙂

[silk rose]

i wonder if 1.2 will actually change liquid behaviour, not just add fluid trucks

[fervent dust]

i am now, thank you for sharing the link. sorry ;w;

[shrewd palm]

it probably will

[cunning siren]

Why not both?

[silk rose]

i mean they will add trucks but that aint change liquid problems

[shrewd palm]

i find it hard to believe that the devs have listened to us complain about fluids for so long and that they think the solution is a fluid truck

[silk rose]

ahahahhahahha april fools

[peak wasp]

my goal is to make my power storage bigger then my entire power grid

I am at 9,000mw out of 21,000mw

[reef basin]

why
also how do you measure "bigger"?

[silk rose]

he means mwh prob

[reef basin]

power storage is measured in MWh, power in MW

can't really compare those two

[peak wasp]

okay then bigger then my power grid for a hour

[silk rose]

pioneers dont waste whole hour fixing their power plant

[leaden turret]

they waste their whole week

[silk rose]

yes their live

[peak wasp]

so I am making my battery system run just as well as my power system for a hour

[turbid bear]

if its nuclear about a month lol

[peak wasp]

ewwww nuclear

[silk rose]

nuclear was never worth the effort for me

[leaden turret]

unspecified game mode

[cunning siren]

I made a battery skyscraper to the skybox and quit at that point 😆 turned out to be just over 1,000,000 #screenshots message

[peak wasp]

that's clean power...if it isn't pouring greenhouse gases into the planets air I am not interested

[turbid bear]

once you get the hang of it, and make some blueprints its just like anything else

[ornate saffron]

That guy has tuaght me sao much

[turbid bear]

the biggest struggle when i do nuclear is having enough filters for the nuke suit lol

[silk rose]

best use of blueprints

[leaden turret]

either they adding vfx to help you diagnose plumbing issues, or they adding a game mode for simplified fluids

[peak wasp]

wait a minute

fuck am I dumb

why I am placing these one by one

[cunning siren]

Anything that helps save me from carpel tunnel

[silk rose]

made factorio players cry

[turbid bear]

fluids are also not terrible if you forget that valves exist

[shrewd palm]

i think they're probably just fixing the bugs

[peak wasp]

when I can just fill a mk1 blueprint fuill of batteries

that's a fucking great idea I am the best pioneer

[silk rose]

fixing fluids would be huge ass pain

[shrewd palm]

hence an entire update for it

[reef basin]

full of batteries or power storages?

[olive condor]

Oh boy, I built a factory which processes all uranium ore on the map into fuel rod. Thats 21 uranium fuel rod per minute. I need 52.5 nuclear kettles @ 200% to burn them.

[turbid bear]

speaking of fluid woes, ima go build another aluminum factory lol

[silk rose]

i dont think storage requires battery too

[olive condor]

Can I have a bigger swamp please? 😁

[sullen gull]

Wasn't aware there was anything "wrong" with fluids 🤷‍♂️

[silk rose]

no sir its disgusting biome

[turbid bear]

there really isnt, if ya keep it simple

[hard ivy]

only 21 rods from 2100 uranium?

[turbid bear]

adding valves is usually the main culprit in fluid issues

[olive condor]

You're afraid of the stingers, aren't you?

[silk rose]

maybe hes on mk2 miners

[cunning siren]

I love swamp mah 🥔 GPU hates it though 😆

[silk rose]

the smell

[olive condor]

Isn't that enough?

[hard ivy]

that's still be 25.2

[white dawn]

To be fair, there are a lot of things which are main culprits in fluid issues. :) Valves are just one of them

[silk rose]

maybe no alts

[turbid bear]

you running mk2 belts? lol

[olive condor]

We don't talk about the bog of eternal stench here.

[peak wasp]

power storages

[turbid bear]

does smell go through the internet now? 😮

[cunning siren]

Free shrooms in swamp 4 daaaaays

[hard ivy]

whether or not it's enough power is entirely up to you. but it's low for all uranium

[turbid bear]

i sense the porn industry collapsing if thats the case lmfao

[white dawn]

There's some quirks of the fluid simulation which can start to bite people as flow rates go up, especially as people try to push all the way to 600/min on pipe manifold systems. The problems can manifest at lower rates too, but they tend to become more pronounced at that point. And when folks do run into those problems, the solutions are often rather unintuitive

[olive condor]

You need a stink device as peripheral.

[silk rose]

im fine without grayscale filter

[white dawn]

It can be especially frustrating because pipes tend to be a lot more forgiving at lower rates, and so folks go through a big chunk of the game with working pipes thinking that they've got them sorted. But then when they try to set up some 600/min systems, suddenly the stuff they've been doing so far isn't good enough

[merry mountain]

I hope for 1.2, they let the hover pack operate on batteries in your inventory.. batteries don't have many uses anyway, and it would be really cool to be able to hover around a new factory area.

[cunning siren]

Are you saying fog is overwhelm in swamp?

[silk rose]

just live in russia

[turbid bear]

for the 600/m stuff, i usually just create a "closed loop"

[white dawn]

Technically it's the fluid simulation working as-intended; it's not really bugs per se (though there have been bugs in the fluid system before). But it'd be nice if they figured out a way to smooth off the edges a bit while keeping fluids otherwise as-is

[silk rose]

i know its supposed to be sad and bad and dark and scarry but i dont like it too much

[cunning siren]

Disable fog in console, that may help

[peak wasp]

Are you trying to mansplain :vomits from making that joke:

[white dawn]

Looping manifolds is one of the things that often helps, yeah. :)

[sullen gull]

From everything I have seen/tested from these "issues", its almost always because players are attempting to treat pipes like a "belt". They aren't supposed to be a dead headed manifold, but people keep trying to do it anyways and claim that the game is broken when it "doesn't work" Evident with the way flow and "pressure" work.

[silk rose]

nah

[cunning siren]

Isn't a "pipe loop" basicly two 600 pipes fed from either side? So 1,200?

[white dawn]

I mean, there's definite pain points. It doesn't help that valves and buffers often don't act like people expect them to, and those end up just adding more problems (if done "improperly")

[sullen gull]

That's one way.

[white dawn]

More like: #screenshots message

I wouldn't personally recommend combining two 600/min systems. Keep pipes as simple as possible is (part of) my usual advice. :)

[cunning siren]

Oh yea, i get the mechanics of making a loop

[turbid bear]

exactly, but i wrap the pie around the building, although i like yer way better

[sullen gull]

As far as buffers go, it's usually because it increases the amount of head lift required if placed up high. As for valves, I've only ever had then "help" in situations.

[turbid bear]

pipe, not pie lmao

[still goblet]

I can't wait for a satisfactory version on PS5. I have about 200 hours on PC, but I had to work so hard to play it on my laptop, and it still stuttered like crazy. And on PS5, it will be such a pleasure to play 😄

[turbid bear]

200 huh?

[sullen gull]

Again, I do it consistently, and have had zero issues. Again, maybe my "style" of plumbing, who knows.

[olive condor]

@white dawn That's the reason why I drive my nuclear kettles only on 200% instead of 250%. The water supply doesn't work, because the Mk.2 pipe doesn't really have a 600 m2 throughput. It's effectivley a bit less so over time the kettles run dry.

[reef basin]

the pipe does have 600 throughput

[still goblet]

I would have more if gaming on a laptop wasn't a chore 😛

[hard ivy]

I haven't had issues getting 600/min to nuclear reactors, aluminium, HOR, and other setups

[turbid bear]

try the "loopback" method mentioned above and let us know ^.-

[cunning siren]

I have yet to encounter problems with pipes I could not fix 🤷 I'm super picky about the build running at 100% too so

[turbid bear]

this game is therapy for the adhd ^^

[cunning siren]

OH yea, the ADHD appeal is stronk in this game

[turbid bear]

glad to see im not the only guy that runs a belt 37 different ways before i decide which one i want

[plain tiger]

solving the most complex problems for 0 reason is a good time

[turbid bear]

oh theres a reason, just not sure what it is yet lol

[olive condor]

What the duck?! My setup for a nuclear power plant was as follows. 2 Water Extractors at 300 m³ each pushing water into a fluid buffer up on a tower from there the pipe goes to the kettle. All pipes mk.2 also pump up the water tower mk.2.

The kettle ran dry over time.

[reef basin]

removing the buffer would be my first step

[hard ivy]

... why a buffer???

[sullen gull]

Becasue water towers fix everything! /s

[reef basin]

also remove any unnecessary "going up"

[turbid bear]

get rid of the buffer broski

[reef basin]

just flat on the ground, 2 extractors, horizontal pipe junction, nuclear plant

[cunning siren]

It's true and it's most likely a bug? IDK though maybe not

[turbid bear]

buffers really only work if you are transporting fluids

[olive condor]

My reasoning was with a water reservoir higher than the nuclear plant I don't need pumps at this point.

[turbid bear]

if you are pumping fluids directlyy, buffers are usually bad

[reef basin]

you need pumps to get it there... at which point you already are at the height you need and don't need buffer

[olive condor]

What do you mean exactly by this?

[sullen gull]

The "going up" isn't difficult, just pumps. Though getting power to them can sometimes be/look annoying.

[turbid bear]

so lets say yer putting nitro on a train

[reef basin]

that you shouldn't use fluid buffers apart from buffering train platforms

[turbid bear]

bufffer it

otherwise, no buffer

cause when the train loads/unloads, fluids stop to the platform

[sullen gull]

Trains stop thier input/output when loading/unloading.

Which can effect "downstream"

[olive condor]

Mmm... sounds plausible. I think I try without fluid buffers when I rebuild the power plants.

[hard ivy]

if I'm putting nitrogen on a train, I'm packaging it

[cunning siren]

How high is Mk.3 blueprint designer? 🤔 maybe vertical pump blueprint + auto-connect would max it out

[ornate saffron]

more then 40m

[turbid bear]

packaging is a way around it, but the "flow" of products stops no matter what when loading/unloading

[native tapir]

Did you find us?

[hard ivy]

well, yeah, but then you use an ISC and not a buffer

[sullen gull]

Don' remember off the top of my head. Either way, a mk2 pump every 45 meters min is my personal "rule". So far my "record" is pumping up 485m 😏

[olive condor]

Oh, you meant transporting via other means than pipes. I see. Haven't done that yet.

[cunning siren]

PUMP it!

[sullen gull]

Well,. they are saying that even if you use a fluid train, you'll want to use fluid buffers.

[cunning siren]

How do you mesure that? Subtract some from snap point?

[sullen gull]

Great, now I have that Black eye'd peas song stuck in my head 🤣

[sullen gull]

Beams

[turbid bear]

my lovely lady lumps

lol im stupid

[sullen gull]

Or you can use walls.

[cunning siren]

Don't the pipes have 1 m markers on them for easy mesurement? 🤔

[sullen gull]

But usually always beams.

[olive condor]

Just between us. But please don't tell anyone. I don't like trains in this game and I don't use them. 🤫

[ornate saffron]

wi got lost what are you trying to measure?

[cunning siren]

OH yea, i guess beams would be nice cuz they extend and then tell you the total distance

[sullen gull]

I mean, sure, could do it that way. But it takes nothing for me to layout some beams for measuring. One full pull of a beam is 40m. Then one 5, then a 2m at 90. Continue till @ height, set pumps, run pipe.

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/eddie-murphy-gif-12875179

[ornate saffron]

if it Pump spacing .... the game highlights where to put them after the first

[cunning siren]

YEAH... the game lies too

[ornate saffron]

I always place them a little bellow the marker

[sullen gull]

If you snap to tha bubble, you run a risk of being "just on the edge" and may have issues.

To assure function 100% of the time, it's best to place pumps "within" the last pump/machine's headlift

[cunning siren]

I'm thinking this is a good plan, I'm not sure how many "notches" is 45 m

Easy enough to find out

[sullen gull]

So a pump at 8m min for machines, 18m min for mk1, 45m min for mk2

[cunning siren]

I think I use 8 m for machines and then VIP junction to feed or provide from them 🤔

[dusky aspen]

Phase 1 finished

[ornate saffron]

PRAISE THE SUN!!!!

[sturdy mural]

guys can anyone help

[cunning siren]

OH, Mk.3 designer lets one do 46 m pipe 🤔

[sturdy mural]

some trains keep switching themselves to "until freight empty" instead of single load

[cunning siren]

Well 48 if counting floor holes

[ornate saffron]

ive been working on my Brutalist Train station all day #screenshots

[dusky aspen]

looks good. is there a way to paint foundations?

[dense violet]

some foundations

I think maybe only concrete?

[ornate saffron]

after unlocking it in the Awe4some shop you can select diffrent Materials you can paint walls though

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

concrete can be painted but the m,aterial shifts the color

[cunning siren]

Das a lot O' pipes

[dense violet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB8mH5Rh8sQ

[ornate saffron]

thanks i saved it to watch later for when i want it.

[dense violet]

shows how to colour foundations properly

[ornate saffron]

i can see taht

[cunning siren]

Pipe floor holes be angry and take pipe when deleted 😆

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[cunning siren]

It seems like you like pipes

[ornate saffron]

likes Laying pipes

AYOOOOOO

[mellow spruce]

I have question is it true that screws are the only enemy because i heard Bad Things about it and i never played satisfactory but on the 4th November and i just want to ask for it

[hard ivy]

absolutely

[cunning siren]

"The best part of the game is making screws." ~ Snutt Treptow, August 15th, 2023

[sullen gull]

Screws are just one of the few that is a High input item, so people think that just because it can be emliniated from a chain, they must be bad and eliminated asap.

[pale dew]

ah yes, screews

nothing better then making something from screws and the thing that you make screws from

[placid stirrup]

Blows my mind that people don't see cat wire similarly

[sullen gull]

Some do.

[hard ivy]

I don't because recipes that use quickwire and wire are actually good. the ones that use screws aren't

[tulip tide]

ikr. Quickwire requires huge quantities

[sullen gull]

But at the point one is dealing with cat, they have faster belts and screws have just all but been forgotten 😏

[sweet light]

I like my steel screw factories

[sullen gull]

Alu beams + steel screws ... the goat

[frail sleet]

They have some uses, but they also have quirks that make them more likely to cause flow problems than pipes.

i don't connect anything faster than 2/3'rds of peak pipe flowrate (so 400 on a mk.2) to buffers or manifolds

[cosmic pawn]

is it just me or does the truck really like to slide when i turn

[frail sleet]

there's a bug with wheel grip on foundations

[cosmic pawn]

im on terrain

it just feels like it turns way faster than the tractor

[cunning siren]

I like Copper Rotor, works well with Cast or Steel screws feeding from above 🤷 or default screws with Steel Rod in a MASSIVE manifold 😆

[shrewd hearth]

Soon console release

https://media.tenor.com/AerN_5yD8N8AAAAM/10-workings.gif

[leaden turret]

soon cod players demaning vc

[mellow spruce]

Yeah im hyped to Played it for my first time im so exiting

[dusky aspen]

guys i spent more time automating rotors than i would spent making them myself

[nova shale]

is epic down? I cant start satisfactory

[dense violet]

you spent more time building a factory than it would have taken to hand craft infinite rotors?

[sturdy mural]

anyone knows why doesnt gas want to leave the machine

[dusky aspen]

no. i still cannot fully automate them bc of electricity

[reef basin]

https://status.epicgames.com/

[ornate saffron]

rough

[dusky aspen]

bc i can't actually hand craft ininite rotors

[reef basin]

Yeah but automation can

[dusky aspen]

yeah

[dusky aspen]

idk i have it on steam

[nova shale]

@reef basin Thanks! it appears something is going on...

[dense violet]

ah you haven't finished the first phase. You're in the pre tutorial. Just keep pushing forward

[reef basin]

Which is the point - you automate it and then have them available forever, without need to handcraft

[dusky aspen]

i have. i am getting rotors to unlock coal

[dense violet]

that's fine, make some coal gens and you'll get infinite rotors

[polar leaf]

I bet I have the lowest one #screenshots message

[dusky aspen]

and i have to get faster belts cuz assembler is in need for screws but the belt is full

[reef basin]

Or underclock

[dense violet]

plan shorter sections of production. Ones mk2 belts can handle

[dusky aspen]

wouldn't that be slower than it waiting for screws?

[dusky aspen]

i have mk1

[dense violet]

just make more groups of machines

[dense violet]

I thought you finished phase 1?

[dusky aspen]

not fully. just unlocked 2

[dense violet]

ok right yeah just make a screw machien directly feeding the machine that needs it

[dusky aspen]

i have 3 screw crafters. i took one line to a container and it is still full

[dense violet]

you don't use screws to build objects, just automated parts. Don't really need a container of them

[dusky aspen]

yeah but i can take them from there and place them in the assembler

[dense violet]

... just belt them xD

even if it's stuttering.

[dusky aspen]

belt is full

[dense violet]

ok well you've been given several solutions to your issues, gl with them

[dusky aspen]

if i take them and place in assembler it will always assemble

[pale dew]

how tf do i make a push pull train

i does each of points need 2 stations

[dusky aspen]

i will just get coal and mk2 belts

[ornate saffron]

yes one on each end

[pale dew]

mk2 belts ☠️

[dense violet]

station at both ends

[pale dew]

i have

[dense violet]

they are probably facing the wrong way

[pale dew]

it tells me that next stop is unachievable

[sullen gull]

Like Cobalt stated, station probabaly wrong way. Also need a locomotive on either end.

[dense violet]

the curved bit of the station is like an arrow. Have it pointing the direction the locomotive is coming in

[pale dew]

i think i fixed it

[sullen gull]

The station actually has an arrow as well 😛

[pale dew]

no i didnt

[dense violet]

well overhead images of your stations to show what is going on are needed

that is, if you've double checked the direction of the stations as mentioned

[civic reef]

how are the train car's weights calculating if at all?

[dense violet]

!wikisearch traing_car

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=traing_car

[dense violet]

though the weight really isn't something you have to specifically manage

[civic reef]

true, it's moreso for testing purposes

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch wagon

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=wagon

[polar leaf]

@cold wasp #screenshots message How many hours do you have

10 thousand ?????

😭

[hard ivy]

Also, https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Electric_Locomotive#Weights_and_forces

[pale dew]

im only using 1 station per end so maybe thats it

[dense violet]

"well overhead images of your stations to show what is going on are needed

that is, if you've double checked the direction of the stations as mentioned"

[hard ivy]

That's how many you should use

[pale dew]

oh sorry

nvm im pretty sure i fixed it thanks to you

the second station was facing against the track

[dense violet]

it's basically the most common newbie train error 🙂

[wise junco]

S a t i s f a c t o r y

[ivory condor]

Some of us have logged alot of game hours

[chrome vine]

Yep here in germ also

Shit epic, still down

[pale dew]

if i had a cent for each time i respawned cuz i dont have something id be a millioner

[dusky aspen]

#screenshots message i swear it felt like one hour

[hard ivy]

You might wanna look into depots lol

[pale dew]

honestly i just dgaf

[sturdy mural]

guys you think this #screenshots message will work as a train "waiting line"?
right sided, 3 signals far away are blocks

[dense violet]

no. Trains don't take different paths

the way trains and logistics work in the game means you want to avoid trains 'waiting' in any case

[sturdy mural]

damn. how do i make it so that a train does not block the whole track if the station is busy for some reason

[dense violet]

have a waiting space in front of hte station

or design the station to not need more than 1 train

[sturdy mural]

there's no space there 😭

[dense violet]

it looks like you have heaps of space from that image?

[sturdy mural]

not really

#screenshots message

on the right i can't build anything because it goes up

[dense violet]

you probably need a bit of a redesign then

how many trains are picking up/dropping off?
are they going to hte same place?

[sturdy mural]

2 stations (2 "sheds")

1st - fuel rods

• 2 regular trains
• 1 express with more uranium
  2nd - waste processing
• 2 regular trains

[dense violet]

so the first station is taking in 3 trains? you're moving much less than 1 belt per platform I take it?

[sturdy mural]

25 rods/m

[dense violet]

on each train/platform ?

what about the uranium?

[sturdy mural]

i think i got the mine up to 600/m

not sure how much it takes

[dense violet]

what are the '2 regular trains' doing at station 1?

[dusky aspen]

guys it is 0:30 am for me. should i go to sleep or let the factory grow?

[wise junco]

always factory

[sturdy mural]

regular - everything

[dense violet]

ok but how much coming in on each platform? from each train?

[dusky aspen]

but i prefer to wake up at 8 not 12 and play from 8 am

[sturdy mural]

up to 1 belt?? whatever you need for the 25 fuel rods in 6 freight platforms

[wise junco]

stay up late, and still wake up early to train

[sturdy mural]

im not really sure what you mean exactly-

[wise junco]

I think he's asking why you need 6 freight platforms for 25 rods/min

[dense violet]

so, pick a platform, between those 2 trains, how much are you dropping off?

1 belt each? more? less

[hard ivy]

You have space for all this so you can just replace it all with a zigzag

[dusky aspen]

okay i will play till 1am

[ornate saffron]

the factory needs you..... for now

[dusky aspen]

i will wake up at 8. i won't be "dead" when i go to sleep and start at morning

[sturdy mural]

6 diffirent resources
each platform has its own stuff
i just have 2 identical trains going the same route for more throughput on trians

[dense violet]

look, since you're not giving any numbers I can't tell you if it's going to work one way or another
but the more trains stop at a station, the lower the throughput of each platform

I'd reorganise how you're building yoru stations

[sturdy mural]

less than a full mk5 belt?? is that what you need-

[urban fractal]

Hey is there a hour for the release of satisfactory on console

[dense violet]

per train per platform? ok you'll run into significant issues

unless it's significantly less than a full belt each

[wise junco]

I think there has been no math performed

[pale dew]

bro what the fuck is water in this game

[wise junco]

a fluid

[dense violet]

fake

[pale dew]

im underpumping and still overfilling

[sturdy mural]

~500 uranium/m
~250 concrete
~250 steel
i think

[pale dew]

how

[dense violet]

on one platform?

[dusky aspen]

#screenshots message why is coal always so far (i know everyone has one world)

[sturdy mural]

platform as in 1 segment of the station?

[dense violet]

yes

[sturdy mural]

no then that would be on 3 platforms

[dense violet]

that's very close

[sturdy mural]

uranium on 1 platform, concrete on the other, steel on another, caterium on the next one etc

[sullen gull]

Pumps do nothing for flow. Only how far up fluids can go (headlift)

[dusky aspen]

rly?

[dense violet]

that might work out ok? you'd have to try it out.

[pale dew]

I HAVE 840 WATER PRODUCTION AND 1080 USAGE HOW AM I OVERFILLING

[sturdy mural]

#screenshots message

[dense violet]

but like you said you could have issues with trains waiting because yo uhave so many stopping in one place

[pale dew]

nah man i dont know anymore

[sturdy mural]

what are you making

[pale dew]

alumiona

[dense violet]

ok you'll have issues because you're not properly buffering the platforms either :\

I highly recommend you find some tutorials on basic train things

[sturdy mural]

how do you do it properly then

[dusky aspen]

IT IS PURE!

[pale dew]

i have 6 refineries making aluminium solution and 3 making scraps

[sturdy mural]

😭

[pale dew]

• 5 water pumps

[sturdy mural]

i've seen like 5 tutorials atp

[dense violet]

generally 2 belts out of a platform into an ISC, 1 belt out.

[sturdy mural]

maybe i am just stupid (i am)

[sturdy mural]

ooh

[dense violet]

take some overhead images in #math-and-meta or #1038092680493801533 to get proper help

[sturdy mural]

well thats a quick fix

[dense violet]

a partial fix for what is going on

[sturdy mural]

what else

[dense violet]

you mentioned 500uranium pm being dropped off by 1 train on one platform? whats the other 2 trains doing to that platform?

[sturdy mural]

2 trains dropping off everything, 3rd dropping off only uranium

[pale dew]

there should be a way to just dump liquids

automatically

[hard ivy]

there's several

[pale dew]

how

[dense violet]

ok but at that specific platform

you said
train one - drops off 500 uranium pm
train two- ?
train three - ?

[dense violet]

there's very simple ways to sort out what you're doing but

"take some overhead images in ⁠math-and-meta or ⁠questions-and-help to get proper help"

[hard ivy]

package and sink, use in another process, if it's water - burn in coal or nuclear plant, if it's fuel burn in a fuel gen

[sturdy mural]

train 1 & 2 -

• 500 uranium
• ~ 250 steel
• ~ 250 concrete
• ~ 150 caterium
• ~ 300 copper
  or smth like that
  train 3 -
• 500 uranium

and all take from the same spot

[dense violet]

yes but I was asking about that one platform

not all the platforms

[sturdy mural]

well its 500 uranium from 3 trains then

tho i might delete the 3rd

cuz it was the only resource that was not backing up n stuff

[dense violet]

right. It's 3 trains doing the same route?

[sturdy mural]

pretty much (the 3rd skips the non-uranium stations)

[wise junco]

if you're having trouble fixing it, you could add in another station and route the final train to it and merge belts

is the problem that the trains are holding up traffic because of getting stuck outside the station i take it?

[dense violet]

its at least a buffering mistake, if it's jsut 3 trains doing the 1 route

[sturdy mural]

GODDAMIT and now my trains deadlocked

[dense violet]

I thought it was 3 trains from different places

[wise junco]

agreed - just having trouble wrapping around the actual issue

[sturdy mural]

all of them
because of one messed up intersection
that is done right?

[dense violet]

so just to clear this up

the three trains dropping things off are the SAME route between 2 places?

[sturdy mural]

yes
but the internection thing was kinda unrelated to the stations themselves

[dense violet]

yeah but you possibly could fix it by only having 1 train. How long is the round trip for the train?

[sturdy mural]

#screenshots message WHY IS THE ONE ON THE LEFT STOPPING THERE

😭

[dense violet]

I'd imagine because the block ahead is occupied

[sturdy mural]

the one on the left is going straight

it just decides to stop on the ramp
and then the fataah can't get up

[sudden thistle]

#screenshots message my first time completing phase 4 :)

[sturdy mural]

yay

and for some reason they want to go to the left too

#screenshots message another one

the track is empty stop waiting bruh

[wise junco]

are you using all path signals?

[sturdy mural]

atp idk what to use
blocks before intersections
path into them

[stone python]

path in block out

[wise junco]

path in, block out indeed

[sturdy mural]

wait how do they work then

[shrewd palm]

path signals let multiple trains through a block so long as they dont cross the same "path" (will run into each other)

[wise junco]

path signals are used at intersection entrances to determine a "path" through the intersection

block signals denote ends/beginnings of blocks of rail

[shrewd palm]

they're really only useful going in to intersections

no reason to use them going out or across the rest of the track

[stone python]

that is their only use

theres no reason to use them otherwise

[wise junco]

i'm not sure with them being placed all over the track line if they will behave as expected

[stone python]

they start and stop constantly

like a spooky ghost is on the track

[wise junco]

2sp00ky

[sturdy mural]

any way to stop a train from just stopping on the ramp

[stone python]

if there is a clear path, they shoulndt stop at all

[shrewd palm]

unless you dont have enough engines and they're going up a hill

[stone python]

trains will only ever come to a stop if the block in front is occupied, theyve entered a station, or the path they want is already set asside for another train

[dusky aspen]

i am not going to sleep till i build coal generator

[stone python]

if they are stopping for other reasons, theres an issue with your signals

[stone python]

it has to be a steep hill, and quite a few cars

[sturdy mural]

well its right before an intersection

[nova shale]

anybody know what is up with Epic log-in? Can't start game -status says ss "investigating" - but I can't log in!

[frail sleet]

it's broke

[nova shale]

@frail sleet What a bummer! 🙁

[stone python]

Even if it is, it should only stop if the path it wants is already reserved by another train

Trains will blow through intersections at top speed, as they reserve the path as they approach the path signal

This sounds like we need a SS of your setup after you made corrections after being told about path in block out

A top down would be great where you mark path signals with one color line, and block with another. Will allow people to analyze your setup easier

[urban bobcat]

Does anybody use PermaDay or SkyUI to always have it on daytime? If so does it affect anything such as achievements or fps?

[stone python]

It doesn't affect either,

[shrewd palm]

mods shouldnt do anything to achievements, only ags does that

[stone python]

I thought Amazon shut their gaming division down

[dense violet]

mods don't
mostly I just advise avoiding all mods until you've unlocked all the tiers and recipes at least once. To give you a good idea of everything

[urban bobcat]

what is ags?

[shrewd palm]

advanced game settings

[urban bobcat]

I see

Yeah I was just thinking of this as I wanna see everything at all times and not have to struggle due to the day cycle

Is there a preference on what type of mod I should use?

[dense violet]

give it a go then. Doesn't really impact game play. But night time is cool
Perma day is fine if that's what you want

[dusky aspen]

guys i have every setting on max and i have 150 fps. my pc is bad. it should have 165.

[stone python]

[sturdy mural]

nooob, get a better pc
(says with ~30 fps on lowest)

[dusky aspen]

LOL. i want to get a hotas and then i want to get new motherboard, ram and cpu

but it will take me a year and a half or more

[shrewd palm]

thats just a new pc atp

[dusky aspen]

ssd psu case and gpu will be the same

[spark sky]

Hm, I would love to get a new PC, even piecemeal. I have a really nice tower case with a dead PC in it.

[cunning siren]

If my PC holds ~60 I'm happy 😆 if it gets below 45 I can feel / see it 😭

[regal socket]

hey, if i want bps like 5 constructors in a row to auto-connect, do the first and last splitters/mergers need a small belt attached or does it work without those? cant seem to get it to connect, havent tried it with belts yet

[spark sky]

I got in a place in my creative game where I think my FPS was down to about 10.

[shrewd palm]

you need to have an attachment point that isnt a merger/splitter

[sullen gull]

Need a belt for autoconnect

[dense violet]

do you mean with blueprints?

[regal socket]

is there an elegant solution besides having little stubs of belt sticking out of every final splitter/merger that im missing?

[shrewd palm]

not really

[regal socket]

yuck 🙁

does it needs belts on both sides to connect or just at the end?

[shrewd palm]

both sides

[regal socket]

ill give that a try, thanks

[shy zenith]

I have all the hard drives, 6 hours worth of researching, is there any point to hold the drives in library if i have them all or should I just pick whichever I want

[dense violet]

pick what you like

recipes in the library don't help you

[shy zenith]

holding bad recipes doesn't matter anymore?

it does cause then I wont roll them again

[dense violet]

bad recipes don't exist, so it never matered

[shy zenith]

okay tell me how often you use bio coal

[shrewd palm]

you have all of them so it doesnt matter right

[dense violet]

for my ammunitions factory, I don't need it running all the time

or when I want to turn pigs into uranium rods

[slender hatch]

Guys question, im expanding tapping more nodes, whats better to move with trains, smelted ores or raw material? At the factory they need ti be smelted anyways, would they have a better throughput over belts?

Like trains vs belts or smelted vs non smelted

[dense violet]

up to you - if you're considering throughput, processing thigns down to less parts per min is often more convenient

[shrewd palm]

if you're using base recipes its 1:1 so it doesnt really matter, although if you want more performance its probably better to smelt on site

[dense violet]

decentralising production can help with performance

[dusky aspen]

i ended the sesion for now. tommorow goal is: rebuild everything and make it more efficient. the day after tommorow has the same goal

[shrewd palm]

although with only a node or two the performance gains wont be noticeable

[slender hatch]

Copy that I have alot of impure iron nodes that are getting fully OC with mk 2 miners so.

This is for my heavy encased modular frame factory

Cause skrew skrews

[dense violet]

purity doesn't really mater. Just parts per min. 4 impure nodes is just 1 pure node spread out

(in general)

[slender hatch]

Right right

[dense violet]

I'm sure there's instances where you're at a certain tier with certain belts that you could pull more from 4x impure nodes than 1x pure?

[slender hatch]

We shall see, it will also be nice cause this will be my first ding at trains

All I have rn is mk 4 belts

[dense violet]

look into managing stations, and buffers first. Lots of newbie mistakes can happe with trains

[shrewd palm]

just a heads up: constantly rebuilding will only slow you down in the long run. there isnt really any point to rebuild unless you get new miners, and even then it sort of depends

[slender hatch]

Yea I think for now im going to run singularly trains on 1 track than learn junctions and stuff after

[shrewd palm]

odds are you're going to be producing enough of whatever it is anyways

but if you want to experiment with different setups and strategies and stuff to find what works that would probably be a good idea to do as you rebuild

[dense violet]

funilly enough, 2 lane trains are easier. And you can easily run more than 1 train on it

[sturdy mural]

#screenshots message

[slender hatch]

Its just rhe learning curve right

[shrewd palm]

there isnt very much of a learning curve to trains

and i think just going straight to a 2 rail network would save trouble over just doing 1 rail and then upgrading later

[shrewd palm]

so long as you put path signals at the entrances to intersections, blocks at the exits and intermittently across the track, and buffers on your train stations there shouldnt be very much to worry about

[frail sleet]

train stations off a fork at the side of the main line, too

if you put them inline then the train which stops at station will block everything behind it and it wrecks throughput 😄

[dusky aspen]

well. i said i ended the session for now. never said i am going to sleep. it is 2am. the factory must grow

[cunning siren]

Started first Grassy Field run, so biomass is poor here?

[shrewd palm]

yeah theres barely any

one thing i very much recommend is leaving all the trees and stuff intact because they add to the terrain and your factories a lot

[dense violet]

there's bushes everywhere in the grassy fields. just punch a bunch and you're good.

[cunning siren]

Yea, leaves mostly not much of any "ground wood" unless chainsaw for trees 🤔 and even trees seem sparce

[upbeat jacinth]

Damn I had a wacky dream where CSS announced a post game DLC called Escape Plan
You go to a brand new area of the map with even more unique biomes following a transmission of a pioneer before you and have to modify a truck into a spaceship mad max style by collecting resources like subnautica that can bypass the obstacles FICSIT put in place

I feel stupid for being excited until I got out of bed

[spark sky]

I guess you haven't explored much around there? There is a cave over near where the arch is (you have to look around to find the entrance). There is a lot of wood there to pick up, just watch for the stingers. Also, if you go north toward the lake with the 4 normal coal nodes, some places up there have a lot of wood on the ground to just pick up. There are other places to the east, as well. You can get all this without a chainsaw.

[shrewd palm]

when its a good dream but i wake up

[dusky aspen]

okay guys. i understand how people have over 500h in one save. i am just sitting there. rebuilding my factory, adding generators and other things while the phase 3 just waits

[spark sky]

Phase 3 just waits? Do you mean machines are working on the parts, or it's waiting for you to start making the parts?

[dusky aspen]

waiting for me

[spark sky]

Well, it can just wait, then. You don't have to be in a hurry. Play the game so it's fun for you.

There are other things to do besides building factories. You can explore, gather lizard doggos that give you stuff you can't make yet, which will help you with MAM research.

[latent meadow]

i always seem to gert to phase 7 or 8 or get bored

and quit

[dusky aspen]

my only problem is 2 coal generators are not enough

[cunning siren]

I found a spot with 3 normal iron close to each other and 2 more close with a copper and a limestone 🤷 seems good enough for me

[zenith fractal]

there's only 5 phases, do you mean tiers?

[spark sky]

Phase 2 is waiting for me, I've got geothermal, thanks to the doggos.

[latent meadow]

yea sorry banana

i always get the tirs and phases messed up lol

[zenith fractal]

ah, yeah phase 4 is what those tiers are in right? that phase is quite a large leap so it can get boring

[latent meadow]

yea espicaly late phases

near to the very end you get to that grind it like wow

it almost over bearing at times

[dusky aspen]

guys how to activate 3 fuses at one time without the others deactivating?

[latent meadow]

i love the oil and the train and the reactor omg that is somewat fun

till you relize how much work you have to do to get ride of the waste lol

[shrewd palm]

the waste is the best part ngl

[latent meadow]

lol

[shrewd palm]

getting to fuel rods is a whole lot longer

[latent meadow]

yea true

[dusky aspen]

guys i learned the satisfactory version of bhop and it is so fun

[spark sky]

You need a priority power switches and enough power generation to take the new load when added to your current load.

[dusky aspen]

what are priority power switches?

[shrewd palm]

also it sort of depends on what biome you started in but for 2 of them there are spots where you can get a whole lot more than 2 generators

[spark sky]

It's a power switch you research in the MAM.

[dusky aspen]

okay thanks

[spark sky]

It allows you to group power switches together, with different priority. I think Priority 1 will cut off last, priority 10 will "blow a fuse" first. That way, if you have something like oil pumps that need to run to keep a power plant running, set them at priority 1. If you have Awesome Sinks, set them at priority 10, as you can afford to have them lose power. (Well, unless you need the Awesome Sinks to get rid of stuff so your factories will keep running.)

[versed mesa]

#screenshots message

💪

At the moment theres 10 power plants but eventually ill have much more

When i next play like later ill bring Uranium Fuel Rods down on the belts to them so much work todo lol

[cunning siren]

Booo, I see many portable miners in my limestone future here 😆

Two nodes that are close are impure 😭

[dusky aspen]

guys is it normal that when i start one generator it like jumpstarts the other?

#screenshots message guys why do i have these falls in my generation? can it be bc pumps are pumping in that moment?

[lucid temple]

If its like mine, sometimes my generators just run out of fuel and it causes it to drop, i'll show mine to you there

[dusky aspen]

i have 100 coal in every one. but it is the water

[lucid temple]

Yeah water would probably be the issue. For me its fuel because I use fuel generators (i also use coal but my coal ones are chill)

I posted mine in #screenshots, you can see the huge drops too. Its a pain to make them all work

[dusky aspen]

how is it even keeping up with that consumption?

[lucid temple]

It doesnt right now but a lot of my machines aren't working because they're backed up, so what I'm actually consuming is less

[dusky aspen]

okay

[lucid temple]

I'm rebuilding my oil factory in a different spot, thats why the max consumption is so high but the production is low. All my power from it is gone

[shrewd palm]

these power graphs

[lucid temple]

Im in the process of rebuilding alot right now so ignore mine lol, its not normally that bad

[shrewd palm]

probably just because they arent getting enough water

[dusky aspen]

k

[shrewd palm]

each generator takes 45 water and 15 coal

[dusky aspen]

guys i am wondering why i cannot sleep but i just remembered that i drank a whole cup of coffe ONLY coffe. a big cup

[lucid temple]

I found a spot that had 4 coal mine veins things with a big lake lol

[dusky aspen]

and girls

[lucid temple]

I run like 20 generators off 7 extractors but I believe you could do it with maybe less extractors

[shrewd palm]

the exact ratio is 3:8

[shrewd palm]

i really like that spot

[lucid temple]

Oh so I'm right on par with what is needed

I think its 18 generators not 20, I just know its around there lol

[shrewd palm]

ye

with that spot mk2 miners should be giving you enough coal for 16

[lucid temple]

I want to switch over to oil as my primary power, but it feels impossible to keep the generators consistently going

[lucid temple]

I use mk 2 miners and 1 is overclocked at 150%

[dense violet]

you have to manage around yoru belt limit too

[shrewd palm]

on this scale i dont think you'll have to worry about pipe crimes but it would probably be good to take an oil node or two and use that exclusively for fue;

im not sure exactly where you're building tho so how viable that is will depend

[lucid temple]

I might need too, right now I just run 2 oil spots (one pure one normal, the pure one is overclocked 250%) and I am using it for plastic and rubber, and just using the residue for fuel

[dense violet]

are you tryign to fix a fuel power station or coal?

[lucid temple]

Well my coal is finally fixed and good once I figured out my belts. Its my fuel generators I can't keep running

[shrewd palm]

are you in the blue crater?

[lucid temple]

I'll send picture of my map to #screenshots, i dont even know how to describe where i am lol

[dense violet]

show some overhead images of it in a #1038092680493801533 post

[shrewd palm]

ok yeah that is blue crater

[lucid temple]

Gotchu once I'm done building this line of stuff for supercomputers

[dusky aspen]

guys shouldn't 2 water extractors be enough for 3 coal gens?

[lucid temple]

1 should be

[dusky aspen]

then idk what is happening

[pine bough]

currently trying to give water to coal gens and the pipes arent being nice to me 😭

[shrewd palm]

i think ive got the 2 pure nodes there for plastic and rubber each, a normal for jetpack fuel, the impure for random weapons stuff, and then everything else is for fuel

[lucid temple]

The hardest part of the game for me so far has been getting oil to work lol

[dense violet]

overhead image of what you're trying to do in #math-and-meta

[shrewd palm]

just barely not

wait nvm it shiould be

[dense violet]

1 is not

[shrewd palm]

3 coal extractors is 135 water, 2 extractors is 240

[dense violet]

do the number on it

[lucid temple]

Ah rip, I'm bad at math

[dense violet]

use a calculator or a planning tool or something. You really don't want to get it wrong for power

[dusky aspen]

okay my pumps were not nice for me and stopped working idk why

[shrewd palm]

yeah its tricky when its your first time doing it

[pine bough]

i have 2 overclocked water extractors for 6 overclocked coal gens is that enough

[lucid temple]

I have plenty more oil than needed right now though. I might turn one exclusively into fuel

I run 5 machines for plastic and rubber, and still have some oil so

Maybe having some extra fuel coming in would help my fuel generators stay running

[shrewd palm]

each generator takes 45 coal and base speed, should tell you how much exactly in the menu by the little fluid "window"

[shrewd palm]

fuel generators are one thing i would use a planner for early on

[lucid temple]

Before I found out residue can be used for fuel, I was legit packaging it and dumping it in an awesome sink 🤣 SO I"m still learning

[shrewd palm]

they usually have really weird numbers and figuring out the math can be kind of annoying

[lucid temple]

Yeah, I'm gonna have to look something up later for it

[dusky aspen]

#screenshots message it is starting to get dangerous

[lucid temple]

Not as bad as mine luckily lol

If I turn oil directly into fuel, should I just dump the polymer resin in an awesome sink for now?

[shrewd palm]

yes

[lucid temple]

Maybe set something up later to turn it into plastic but just for now lol

[shrewd palm]

it has its uses but you probably dont really need it very much

[lucid temple]

Nah not right now, I'm still figuring everything out

Working on the milestone Nuclear Power, but I know I'm no where near doing nuclear lol

[shrewd palm]

you need aluminum first (oil but on crack)

[lucid temple]

I do have aluminum automated already

I'm just rebuilding my oil production because it was scuffed. Couldn't see where anything was going, machines constantly failing to stay running

[shrewd palm]

ahh

just throw all the excess solids into an awesome sink and for the most part everything should run smoothly i think

so long as you didnt commit any serious pipe crimes

[lucid temple]

I don't mind if it's not the prettiest, I just want to see where stuff is going so I can debug any mistakes

[lucid temple]

Nah the oil flow is perfect, it was just a matter of figuring out how to use it 🤣

[shrewd palm]

real

[lucid temple]

That extra refinery specifically for fuel seems to have helped

I am now getting fuel faster than using it! Thank you lol

[dense violet]

jesus. pls math it out xD

[lucid temple]

Its like +0.1/3 second but it works lol

[shrewd palm]

at base speed each generator uses 20 fuel/min

[dense violet]

painful to listen to.

[shrewd palm]

do with that what you will

[lucid temple]

I did and still failed, I gave up earlier. 40 fuel/minute and couldn't power 2 generators, not sure which thing I screwed up lol

Thats why im just rebuilding the entire oil production thing i had before

[dense violet]

how much oil are you using? are you just using the base fuel recipe?

[lucid temple]

Now I make 80 fuel/minute, so in theory, I should be able to run 4 generators assuming everything is working right

[shrewd palm]

on a small scale this probably doesnt have an effect but maybe try topfeeding the generators?

[lucid temple]

1 is using base fuel. 3 making plastic 1 rubber, residue is being turned to fuel

[shrewd palm]

like have a pipe run on a stackable pole and then connect it downwards to the generator

[dense violet]

those aren't numbers xD I can see why you're having issues

[lucid temple]

I could try that if it struggles again

[lucid temple]

Well, its 60/30/30/30/30 oil being used. Oil stays full though so I'm chill. The residue is making 40 fuel/minute, and the one running just the fuel recipe is making 40 fuel/minute aswell

[neat berry]

any idea why my game would be running choppy asl

i validate files it still do other games fine but its so bad

[dense violet]

it sounds like you're making 73.3333 fuel pm

I highly recommend you don't mix factory production together and power production. Make dedicated systems

[lucid temple]

ahh alright theres my problem then. I'll have to get more oil spots so I can make a power-only one

[dense violet]

you really really want to be exact with numbers when doing anything for power

[lucid temple]

How did you get to the 73.333? I just added which each machine was producing, so thats where I went wrong

[dense violet]

well 1 machine of fuel with base makes 40 pm
3 plastic + 1 rubber refinery makes 50 HOR pm, which converts to 33.33333 fuel

assuming you're using residual fuel

[spark sky]

I have a question: I was able to get my Steam Session ID and invite several friends to my game, however, one of my friends, when he went to get his Session ID, the Session ID was blank.

Any idea why?

[feral geyser]

Was he in online mode, or single player?

[lucid temple]

oooh so i was just looking at the wrong numbers. that makes alot more sense.

I really have to learn how to calculate all of this better

[shrewd palm]

NAT settings might also have something to do with this, used to happen all the time to me

[spark sky]

Oh, I don't know. Can you change that in the session?

[dense violet]

if you don't want ot use a planner, pen and paper work

[feral geyser]

Yes, in session settings

[lucid temple]

Seeing my production be stable is something I thought I'd never see lol

[spark sky]

Oh, wait, I had him switch to Open to Friends, but the Session ID was still empty.

[lucid temple]

I'll have to use a planner since my math sucks

[dense violet]

this takes a little bit of practice but is truly excellent https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[lucid temple]

Lot of info to learn

[shrewd palm]

satisfactory tools (web) or modeler (steam)
they both do the same thing in the end but they're a little different
tools sort of just farts out factory instructions, modeler is more of a make your own instructions kind of thing

lots of people prefer modeler and lots of people prefer tools but its really up to you

[lucid temple]

I'll try both and see what I prefer

[dense violet]

modeler is more of a ... layout program. It's very manual and slow. Doesn't do the same things

[lucid temple]

Probably dumb question but the % on machines like most of mine say 100% but I do have a few that are lower, what difference does that number actually make?

[shrewd palm]

do you mean efficiency or clock speed?

[shrewd hearth]

Just 2 more days till console release

https://media.tenor.com/f4amaI51PgwAAAAM/peace-out-peace-sign.gif

[feral geyser]

Unsure

[lucid temple]

Efficiency

[shrewd palm]

100% means that its getting everything it needs and not getting backed up

lower than that means something is wrong

[lucid temple]

Ohh so more of a debugging thing rather than an actual function? I just wanted to make sure I didn't screw up by having some lower than 100% while rebuilding

[shrewd palm]

yeah

[lucid temple]

Gotcha thanks. I'm excited to finally be able to progress again lol

I got stuck for so long because my factory is a MESS. I'll show a picture in #screenshots, its so bad

[shrewd palm]

real

i've been stuck on my base for the last like 50 or 60 hours at this point

almost done finally but theres some stuff i wont be able to do until i get portals

[lucid temple]

I dont even want it to be the best looking. I just want to see where my items are going and easily be able to adjust production lines if i have too

[dense violet]

however the efficiency meters aren't super reliable

100% probably means 100%

but 97% could also be 100%

more reliable move is just to stare at the row of lights of your machines for 30 seconds, see if theres a flicker

[lucid temple]

That was part of my old production line for computers and those items in #screenshots. I gave up trying to fix issues because of it

[dusky aspen]

i said i am going to sleep at 1am. now it is almost 4am and i am not planning on going to sleep

[lucid temple]

Thats actually a good idea. I ignore those lights and now I see why I've had so many factory issues

10:49pm here and I work at 4am lol

[dense violet]

it's just absolute information. If you have a stuttering system 30 seconds is very usually more than enough to spot the stutter. Rarely you might need to stare longer but not common

and it lets you look at all the machines in one go

(usually)

[lucid temple]

I did learn too that sometimes it seems like its running fine because everything had time to build up before the end product, then it could end up running out of items and completely being stuck somewhere. Had that happen with the aluminum production

[dusky aspen]

LOL

[dense violet]

many systems need to spin up

bauxite has it's own things with recycled water

[lucid temple]

I just put the water back into the same line for now even though thats suboptimal. I was gonna just make a 2nd machine use it but it was just to get the milestone done

[shrewd palm]

average satisfactory experience

[lucid temple]

And I randomly get backed up on alumina solution so I just have it splitting into a fluid buffer (the one that holds 2400m) and just flushing it everytime as a band-aid fix

[dusky aspen]

i think that i want to live in satisfactory world. you get a whole planet just for yourself and you build factories there

[shrewd palm]

yeah but what about the pressure of saving a species that might already be dead

[dusky aspen]

does not matter as long as i have fun

[kindred fulcrum]

Im so nervous yet excited to play on the 4th. Ive watched this game for years. Its my dream game

From what ive been told its all about going slow and enjoying it. Also get a lizard doggo for early resource unlocks

[shrewd palm]

Yes

[dusky aspen]

#screenshots messagetime to rebuild my energy generators

guys help. every 2 times my generators use coal. the total coal value in them decreases by 1

THEY WILL TURN OFF!!!

i fixed it

guys how much normal is pure

[jaunty jewel]

2 impure is 1 normal, 2 normal is 1 pure, 4 impure is 1 pure

[dusky aspen]

okay so instead of 1 pure i can have 2 pure. thanks

[jaunty jewel]

what

whats the context here

[dense violet]

!wikisearch miner

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=miner

[dense violet]

please look at how much you clock your miners to, look at actual numbers. Don't calculate by node purity

[dusky aspen]

i have 1 pure coal but in another place i have 4 normal. 1 pure was not enough

[dusky aspen]

my belt was full

of ocal

[dense violet]

because of Overclocking, your limiter for 90% of the game will be your belts

[dense violet]

don't count by belt either. Look at what your mining. It tells you on your miner

[jaunty jewel]

"count" by the output

for example, constructor gives 20 iron plates so your belt will have 20 iron plates on it, pretty straightforward compared to "my mk2 belt is 1/6th full" or something

[dim cradle]

Your belt saturation also depends on usage speed too

At some point if you're not using the product at the speed you produce it, it's going to pile up

[jaunty jewel]

hi medical yellow berry

[wise junco]

good day

[jaunty jewel]

e.g your sending 60 ore into just 1 smelter at 100% clock the ore will back up into the miner or wherever its coming from

[dim cradle]

It's not going back into the miner, the miner just has no place to put it on the belt

so it'll be in its internal storage

[dusky aspen]

#screenshots message what is this?

[dim cradle]

A rock you can blow up if you have explosives

[dusky aspen]

:/

when do i get explosives?

[dim cradle]

Pretty fast actually if you rush Sulfur research

[tacit canyon]

Just got a harddrive, should i get plastic smart plating, ssteamed copper sheetss or rescan it?

[wise junco]

depends on your needs! personally, i'd rescan

[dim cradle]

It's whatever you feel like building or have excess resources for

[tacit canyon]

Heavy encassed framess

lets go, was just makinga heavy module frame factory

[dim cradle]

It's pretty easy to make a lot of plastic and rubber if you get the recycled recipes

[wise junco]

heavy encased is one of my fave recipes

[dim cradle]

I just wish HDDs didn't take 10 mins, I have like 30 of them do I actually need to keep putting them in for 5 hours XD

[jaunty jewel]

id still say its objectively one of the best recipes in the game

[wise junco]

hell yeah

[dim cradle]

I just got heavy flexible frame. Looks kinda good tbh

[jaunty jewel]

never used it personally

[dim cradle]

Just uses some Rubber and produces them faster... uses screws. People don't like screws but it's easy to get a lot of screws just by throwing a few steal beams into a constructor

Encased looks good too though, yeah. Lots of limestone out there

[jaunty jewel]

i cant imagine a world where i use a different recipe tbh

[dim cradle]

It just depends on how your factory is at the time and what you think would be easiest to produce based on what you brought in. I feel like both alt recipes are better than the default one for that thing.

[jaunty jewel]

yeah definitely the default is horrible

i mean i build dedicated factories for those things and i usually just do all phase 3 stuff in one place because its very straightforward imo

[dim cradle]

I wasted time making like 8 manufacturers (some overclocked) just to make over 11 crystal oscillators/min just so I could make more radars all over the map

[lucid temple]

I hate screws so much but I haven't unlocked any alt recipes yet. I haven't done much of the research stuff except caterium

[dim cradle]

Clearly I have a great grasp on efficiency

[jaunty jewel]

crystal oscillators are the bane of my existence i actually hate them so much

[dense violet]

research them as you're exploring

and you'll play 300 minutes of the game easily

that could be 1 factory

[dim cradle]

I do, but it's not really "exploring" anymore, it's just I've got 8 sloops left on the map. So it's gonna be me just trying to catch em all at this point.

[jaunty jewel]

1 section of a factory lol

[dim cradle]

The entire map itself has radars all over it lol

[wise junco]

I've been exploring the last few play sessions. I haven't had the energy to build

[dim cradle]

More sloops means more spiders, so my Large Spider Combat Hut (TM) will come in handy lol #screenshots message

[jaunty jewel]

satisfactory pve > minecraft pve

idk i love all my "little" "expeditions" to the swamp at night and killing spiders

[dim cradle]

I made them all night but I still only have like 14000 crystal oscillators

gosh they're so slow to make

[wise junco]

16 lifetime supplies?!

[jaunty jewel]

i would genuinely rather make an entire nuclear pasta factory than make a crystal oscillator factory producing the same output

[dim cradle]

still haven't filled up the box stack I made for them

[jaunty jewel]

at least nuclear pasta means particle accelerators and particle accelerators are very very fun

[dim cradle]

granted it's 5 stacked industrial containers

but at least now I can literally radar the entire map a few times over

[jaunty jewel]

you will not need that many crystal oscillators

[dim cradle]

Honestly I don't think crystal oscillators are that bad to make though

The worst part to me is the wire/cable

that's about it

[jaunty jewel]

everyone has that one part they hate and for me it is those

[dim cradle]

also I don't have a manufacturer manifold blueprint yet so I had to take my manifold blueprint and duplicate it several times per input

[jaunty jewel]

a lot of people seem to hate heavy modular frames for some reason

[dim cradle]

I can definitely see that one, because it's just like.. a box. With some black lines on it.

But it's annoying to make

[jaunty jewel]

i disagree

ive never had any issues with them personally

[dense violet]

HMF are the first moderately complex thing that gets tossed at you

same with screw hate. People don't know how to manage them when you get them

[dim cradle]

With a concrete recipe I think it's probably less annoying

Screws I've personally never actually had too much issue with

For some reason

[jaunty jewel]

screws are fine its just people try to merge them all together and then work with them (probably)

[dim cradle]

Well like wire and quickwire are pretty similar

So it's weird lol

[jaunty jewel]

Yes but screws are bad because you get them earlier? idk

[dim cradle]

Pretty sure wire is way before screws. I guess it's just not used in as much early on?

Unless you get Stitched Plate

then you have to manage it

[jaunty jewel]

you need way less wire compared to quickwire or screws for most recipes i think

[dim cradle]

Maybe 🤔

[jaunty jewel]

yeah i dont see a single wire recipe over like 80/min

[charred sandal]

#screenshots message

These tracks + signals + stations are all spaced identically far apart. Any idea why just a few are looping back into themselves? ( I dont really know what that means tbh)

[jaunty jewel]

oh wait no, just classic battery at 90/min thats the highest it goes

which is when you have mk5 belts available anyways, but screws are used in rotors at 100/min right at the start when making reinforced plates is harder

[lucid temple]

I hate HMF because I screwed up my regular modular frames production line and need to direct my anger towards something

[jaunty jewel]

• press f on keyboard
• hold ctrl
• hold left click
• repeat

[dim cradle]

I think it's more like early on any wire overflow is inconsequential so even if you manage it badly it just doesn't really matter. By the time cable starts mattering you're further in.

Screws are used immediately and the items they're used in can be done really suboptimally if you don't manage those screws

[jaunty jewel]

yeah cable is worse than wire

[lucid temple]

Cable is killing me, but mainly because I decide to do everything on 1 miner instead of actually getting more

[jaunty jewel]

(i hate automated wiring)

[dim cradle]

SO I think screws are like... the initial "this sucks" thing lol

If you don't do the math for them

[urban bobcat]

I can agree man. I've watched a decent amount of videos about the game and I start playing about 2 weeks ago and I now understand the hatred towards screws