satisfactory

[hushed canopy]

which took me a bit too long to realise i cannot make that one fluid yet

for the other recipe

[dim cradle]

Actually this is kind of funny, I think I can make all of the trains I need for transporting the oil, from the plastic and rubber I picked up from crash sites, in order to make the stuff that I need to make them

So that's another reason to keep that stuff

Like basically enough to make like 20 platforms I guess

What is Purity: Temp

[reef basin]

multiple nodes

[swift turret]

How hardcore would it be if satisfactory added bikes

[hushed canopy]

roller skates would be dope tho

[dim cradle]

Jet Set Radio Future

just lets you make grindable rails across the map and starts up the music as soon as you get on them

actually that would flipping dope...

... put graffiti on your own factory...

[swift turret]

Remove the zip line for hover blades

Cmon coffee

[hushed canopy]

ey ey the zipline is very fun as well, got a bit ofskillexpression in the early game too

very useful to get around after u unlock power towers

just poured myself a PINT of coffee, too damn tired today

[dim cradle]

I don't ever use caffeine, dunno how people just chug it like that

[hushed canopy]

about 0.6 liters to be specific

[dim cradle]

But my RL friend does the same thing lol

[hushed canopy]

im finnish, our most famous breakfast is coffee and a cigarette

this isnt something i usually do though

just unbeliavably tired

[dim cradle]

Do y'all know if there is a way to get rid of these Dismantle crates on the map

[hushed canopy]

yes

[dim cradle]

or some game option to just delete them

[hushed canopy]

if it does not have anything nice

click on it and press remove all

[dim cradle]

It just doesn't matter, the dimension storage will always have more of whatever it was

[hushed canopy]

deletes its contents, and the box vanishes

like a fart in the wind

[swift turret]

Very easily you just open your mouth and pour the contents inside and forget what you did that day :D

[dim cradle]

Wait do you mean I have to walk up to it and do that

I mean remotely >_<

[dim cradle]

Isn't that alcohol? Tho I don't drink that either lol

[hushed canopy]

im actually curious if swedes drink as much coffee as finns, out of the three countries norway still drinks the most i believe

[swift turret]

No I think theres studies that show caffinee can lead to short term memory loss or something similar, I havent checked it in a while so dont quote me

[dim cradle]

Oh well yeah I don't need any help forgetting anything short term

can tell you that much....

[swift turret]

repeat what you said I already forgot

[hushed canopy]

oh my working memory has been fucked on a genetic level so cant get much worse

[dim cradle]

repeat what you said I already forgot

[swift turret]

"How could things get much worse" ahh response

[hushed canopy]

well, its always been a bit wonky, cant handle a longer list of things to do at work than 3 unless its written somwhere, and ill still probaply forget i wrote them somewhere

its a bit of a pain

i now realize the pint of coffee will likely grow cold before i drink it all so perhaps i will ad some sugar to it and put it to the fridge for later enjoyment of ice coffee

[silk ocean]

or put it in the microwave

I seem to forever be microwaving my mugs of coffee that go cold on the desk

[hushed canopy]

ever forget ur coffee in the microwave? only to find it there next morning. not today

[silk ocean]

Not the microwave but certainly just a mug somewhere, kitchen, desk, etc xD

Probably even then I'd heat it up again lol

[hushed canopy]

on occasion i accidentally brew too much coffee in the morning, and then proceed to put the whole pot in the fridge so i can have some in the afternoon without brewing more

if it sits at room temp i find it becomes a bit too bitter for my taste

[silk ocean]

Yea I should probably do the same

[torn cairn]

you don't dump gallons of sugar and syrups into it like everyone else? why even drink coffee atp

[hushed canopy]

highly recommend another container than the pot itself, im just a bit lazy in the mornings

[silk ocean]

Oh I just have it black no sugar

[hushed canopy]

best coffee i ever had was freshly ground at a friends place

divine

it was better when drunk black compared to with milk and/or sugar

beans were nothing fancy either

[silk ocean]

Yea that's good. I just have a basic filter machine and I buy ground coffee

[hushed canopy]

but i do drink it with milk since i usually have the cheap stuff just to keep me awake when needed

same for me zatie

its a rare treat to have some good coffee

[silk ocean]

Yea I don't buy anything particularly fancy, usually just a bag of whatever is on discount

[wintry carbon]

you sound really finnish

[hushed canopy]

i wonder why

when you get a pay raise you get that presidentti coffee instead of the usual juhlamokka

i wonder what kind of coffee ficsit emplyees drink in game

do we have lore on that?

[wintry carbon]

must be ficsitcoffee

[willow storm]

dirty water probably

doubt they'd spend money on actual coffee

[wintry carbon]

@hushed canopy you play sf alone?

[pastel shale]

check #screenshots

[hushed canopy]

ficsit coffee. get your fix before automating for a boost in efficiency!

[hushed canopy]

ye

[dim cradle]

The boost in efficiency is not guaranteed lol

Sloth can be efficient too

[odd remnant]

Wait coffee actually does something??

[hushed canopy]

apparently

[odd remnant]

I never knew this, I thought it was just prop for the game lol

[hushed canopy]

oh, i just threw out a slogan that came into my mind. i dont believe it does anything in game

[odd remnant]

Ohh okay lol

It would be cool if it did though

[hushed canopy]

imagine if it increased output by like .01% or something, someone would still optimize around the mechanc of sipping coffee

lol

[odd remnant]

That would be cool if it did that, like a temporary booster in building efficiency

[hushed canopy]

ehh, i would probaply make a macro for sipping coffee automatically at that poin t for maximum gains

[dim cradle]

Hmmm... okay I dunno the math for this. I have 7 fluid platforms all for oil. I'm not sure what the transit time for the train is yet but how many oil sources do you think I should hook up to each

[hushed canopy]

it would be interesting, say if it gave a small movement speed boost. that would fit into gameplay as well

[dim cradle]

There are 3 pure oil sources, 2 normal oil sources, and then a couple of impure oil sources in this area

[hushed canopy]

how much are you consuming? compared to the haul size?

[dim cradle]

I'm not consuming any yet, I just want to make sure that none of it overfills

Like I wanna just use the oil sources 100%

... well I guess the transit time is necessary for that huh

oh well

[hushed canopy]

i mean

[odd remnant]

That could be a thing also. I’m sure the devs will do something like that in the future

[hushed canopy]

the way i do transporting liquids is i make a fluid buffer at both stations that fills up, so if im not consuming all of it at the end atleast its stored there incase something goes wrong later on

[limpid cairn]

Mind sending me an invite to your clan tag discord?

[dim cradle]

Even if there's a fluid buffer, there's a certain flow rate to all of the pumps

I kind of want to make sure I use 100% of that flow rate, or have up to 100% of it to use which would make the train "lossless"

[hushed canopy]

ya need pumps for vertical fluid movement? i just fill up the pipe network so no accidents happen when the machines turn on

kinda like the way i do my manifold belts

but ye, fluids are weird

[dense violet]

is this just buffering fluid platforms?

[hushed canopy]

sometimes i wish the discord had some voice channels. would be dope to discuss how you do your piping for the train

[dense violet]

pick a buffer style and replicate it exactly. They've been tested #design-and-architecture message

[shy mulch]

voice channels have 2 main problems

• they are harder to moderate
• everyone has wildly different accents, it can be much easier to understand each other with text communication

[lyric shale]

what are all the ways to transport items? like you have trains, trucks, drones, conveyers etc

[shy mulch]

pretty sure about 1% of people would understand what I'm saying if I joined a voice channel 😄

[shy mulch]

factory carts, if they count as little trucks maybe 😛

[ivory condor]

doggos as well

assuming we are including things that cant be useful for logistics anyways

[reef basin]

third one - the conversation isn't permanent, can't be read by someone else

[compact dome]

whats the best starting place

im creating a third world because i just updated to win 11 and got a clean install

[reef basin]

literally any place with copper iron and limestone

[compact dome]

is the "gold beach" or whatever its named good. The left side

[hushed canopy]

recently went to the dunes, never seen that much iron

[reef basin]

"good" depends on your preferences

[compact dome]

I want an easier early game, mid game i can juust move anywhere i want which will fit my needs

[reef basin]

yeah, then what I said before - you need iron, copper and limestone

[compact dome]

okey

[dim cradle]

Sorry when I said pumps I meant whatever extracts the oils lol not inline fluid pumps

[reef basin]

which is any of the 4 starting locations, plus tons of other places

[dim cradle]

I guess I'll just add those buffers, too

[reef basin]

fluid buffers are pointless (apart from train buffering)

[compact dome]

Are the dogs useful

in my like 160 hours i havent really had a use for them

[reef basin]

tbh I'd recommend you just play the game and figure out things yourself 🙂

practically everything in the game can be useful, depending on what your goals are 🙂

[compact dome]

wow

🙂

[dim cradle]

Well train buffering is exactly what I'm going to do

Anyway, is there a way to turn a platform somewhere between 45,90 degrees...

this is kind of annoying when I'm making the skypath for the train

[reef basin]

you can basically turn it freely

[dim cradle]

I can't get it exactly aligned towards the base

Well I'm trying to use mouse wheel and it's just swapping between 45, 90

[reef basin]

on foundations?

[dim cradle]

I see, I have to change the snap mode

and just put another foundation on top of the foundation I guess

[reef basin]

or not build on foundations 🙂

[spark blaze]

Hi, I'm trying to find out about sampling SFX from the game, not the in game music, and using it to make my own music. I'd like to do so legally, if there's anyone who can clarify the company's stance on using the game's sounds.

[visual harness]

Ok, am I the only person having issues using the vertical splitters and mergers with floor holes?

[dim cradle]

How do I just tell a train to drive to one endpoint

Do I actually have to edit the timetable lol

[limpid cairn]

yes

[silk ocean]

One could say good train training would be to play TTD or OpenTTD xD

[dim cradle]

I just added nothing but where I was at as the endpoint

Do I need to power the end station or does the rail take care of that

[feral geyser]

The rail carries power, but you should probably put towers carrying power too, in case you need to change your track.

[spiral summit]

any station on the line if connected can transmit power

[feral geyser]

Obviously, but if you break the track between A and B to change it, that breaks your power.

It's just an extra layer of precaution

[spiral summit]

then dont break it

[feral geyser]

😒

Bro doesn't understand redundancy

[slender hatch]

Why do heavy modular frames really feel like the first test when playing satisfactory

I have enjoyed this game so far.But now that I am on heavy modular frames.I'm scratching my head almost every thirty seconds

[feral geyser]

Cuz they are, kinda

[dim cradle]

It gets worse don't worry

👍

[slender hatch]

Ohh yeah thanks for that

[dim cradle]

YOU WANTED THIS (factory)

[hollow hazel]

inb4 Surface is too uneven

[slender hatch]

Also, does anybody know how to turn off the fog

It's really getting annoying

[dim cradle]

Nah I had no issues making a very long skybridge track all the way back to base from this crater thing

It's been 3 years since I've messed with this game so was just wondering if they added any QoL things to them

seem pretty much the same tho

[hollow hazel]

Open console and type r.fog 0

[slender hatch]

How do open that

XD

[mortal ginkgo]

To turn off the fog in the distance:

--

Press the tilde/grave button (~) to open console. (It is next to the "1" key if you don't know where to find it)

Type this: r.fog 0

Then hit enter. Make sure you have a space between the "g" in fog and the zero, or nothing will happen.

--

Fog inside building and outdoor fog blocking distant views are now gone.

You will have to do it again each time you turn the game on and off.

From Reddit

[dim cradle]

It's nice that this strain station can pump all of the oil extractors that are about to extract into it though

[slender hatch]

Thanks ❤️

[rustic pier]

Yall ever go to revamp a production area and the just kinda blank on what your doing and stop playing for a bit lol

[hard ivy]

With the right recipes, they're much easier

[silk ocean]

KYO that Rubber Factory on Satis Tools that you linked me a while ago, implemented it.. Did you design it or is that from a standard library?

[reef dirge]

Use factoriolab and scratch no head.

Then just slap number of factories randomly and wire, that's it, all the gameplay of the game

[dim cradle]

I don't think I ever revamp anything lol

Just add more crap

[rustic pier]

Lol i am trying to make it look less ew.

[whole drum]

Do you have any alt recipes for it?

[unkempt blade]

all factories are beautiful in their own way according to the magical robot voice in my head

[dim cradle]

Again, my solution to a "production line" was to just take all of my iron ingots and shove them into one stupidly overclocked constructor to make "MOAR IRON PIPES"

It will probably never be touched

[whole drum]

That would be DaftPunk.

[unkempt blade]

well now it might be...

[rustic pier]

Lol well i want to make it an actual building, end game of it was modular frames

[slender hatch]

No i dont

[rustic pier]

But im going to use alternate recipes to increase the amount. It originally was but i had turned it off for a bit as i didnt need them

[whole drum]

Harder. Better. Faster. Stronger.

[proud hill]

whats the next energy source after biomass? im still verry early at phase 1 but i hate collecting leaves by hand

[shrewd palm]

coal

[rustic pier]

Coal i think

[unkempt blade]

start of phase 2 is the next one, you're almost there 😄

[whole drum]

Except our factories don't kidnap aliens and produce industrial grade pop stars

[mortal ginkgo]

GUYS WHY DO I HAVE NO CONCRETE IN MY D DEPOT!?!?!

WHAT HAPPENED TO MY LIMESTONES?!!?! AAAAAHHHH PANIK

[unkempt blade]

YOU PROBABLY NEED TO MAKE MORE CONCRETE

[whole drum]

JUST ADD WATER!

[rustic pier]

That will achieve the opposite

[mortal ginkgo]

BROTHERMAN SMART SPLITTER WAS NOT SMARING SPLITTING

[whole drum]

He got the "special" splitter

[hard ivy]

I don't take anything from a "standard library". Idk if one even exists

[silk ocean]

Gotcha. It's a nice design either way, works good

[sturdy mural]

Help
I just realized i need to somehow make a 1:25 balancer

[unkempt blade]

what are you trying to do that needs that?

[sturdy mural]

Powerplant

[shrewd palm]

atp thats just a manifold ngl

[sturdy mural]

U Fuel rods

[unkempt blade]

more detail plz 🙂

[sturdy mural]

5 rods/m
So thats 25 reactors @ 100%

[unkempt blade]

odds are you just need to use a splitter and do the math for what gets consumed on each branch after the split

[shrewd palm]

use smart splitters and make it so that the fuel rods can only go on to the next reactor when the current one is full

[sturdy mural]

How the hell do i make that

[hard ivy]

Turn off the water supply while they fill and it'll only take a few hours

[shrewd palm]

not sure how much benefit that is over just regular splitters but it seems like its a lot more reliable

[slender hatch]

Mk2 blueprint maker now :YayHype

[whole drum]

A: Rods
B: Undefined
C: Overflow

[shrewd palm]

set the output going to the reactor to any, and then make the one thats going to more overflow

[unkempt blade]

if you have extra power and you're not already using sloops then you could also sloop the uranium rod step until it fills up too

[sturdy mural]

Won't the powerplant just eat like 100 rods tho

[whole drum]

It will fill up, yes, but the extra goes to the next

It'll take a bit to warm up

[sturdy mural]

Whats the stack anyway
100 right?

[shrewd palm]

it just makes it so that it fills up one at a time instead of the manifold trying to fill up all the reactors at once

50

[hard ivy]

50

[hard ivy]

When they're off, it doesn't matter

[hushed canopy]

argh

[sturdy mural]

Alr
Tbh i guess i might just have the reactors be off untill the rods fill up

[hushed canopy]

tryna fish for the iron pipes recipe

need to get my sam fluctuators without steel so i can make it more compact xd

[whole drum]

25 is just an uncomfortable number to balance. If you were doing 24 it would just be split into 3, then 2, then 2 each

Err, 2 more

You need 3 sets of 2

[sturdy mural]

Im not gonna be rebuilding the whole plant again ❤️
Guess i'll just hurt it through somehow

[hard ivy]

Regardless, you want to put the water extractors on a separate grid with a power switch so they can be toggled on demand. In case you want to stop the waste production for whatever reason

[whole drum]

Yeah, the smart manifold is probably a lot easier

[hard ivy]

Eh, 25 is 5×5, so you split in 5 and in 5 again. And a 1:5 isn't that bad

[whole drum]

Just don't build giant ships with a manifold design...

[sturdy mural]

I mean its a closed loop already (it will get instantly plutonium rod and sinked), but good idea

[sturdy mural]

Giant ships?

[whole drum]

Splitting into 5 is awkard when splittings have 3 outputs tho

[hard ivy]

Then it's an even better idea in that case. If you messed something up, the waste would accumulate. So being able to easily stop it is very useful

[whole drum]

Yeah, if you don't want to freeze to death, floating on a wooden door

[unkempt blade]

1:5 balancer would be easy to find how on google and that's not a terribly complicated one

[hard ivy]

Well, yeah, you need to split in 6, then loop one of them back into the input

[sturdy mural]

Fair

Very fair actually

I somehow hooked up raw uranium to packagers before

Instead of canisters

Also
You think its a good idea to focus on automating filters before starting it up?

[unkempt blade]

A stack of filters will normally last you a really long time so it just depends how long you think you'll be sitting in the radiation area

[round matrix]

i just handcrafted about half a stack and keep an eye on it while working around my uranium line, has worked out fine enough for me

[hard ivy]

Yeah, I would automate them into the depot just to have a peace of mind.

But some people have bought all their filters or handfed a slooped manufacturer to make a few stacks

[visual harness]

Question, I'm doing a overhaul of my rocketfuel plant, and at current I'll have a excess of ~108 fuel per pipeline.
If I wanna use some of that for packaging etc, what is the best way to siphon it?
Just a junction with a valve, or is there a better approach

[unkempt blade]

yeah I normally would just do something like this the next time I get up to make coffee or whatever 😆

[cunning siren]

This Nitro Rocket Fule in a blueprint idea is good, #screenshots message I'm gonna' do my own and see what happens 🤔

[hard ivy]

I'd split the production into production for power and production for packaging

[visual harness]

I'm using the same design for my reworked production

[true mulch]

Lower pipes fill first. If you just make an upside down U (as tall as your head lift allows), it will NEVER pass through as long as it can go elsewhere lower

[round matrix]

yeaaa right. especially now that there's a designated button to auto craft. i remember the days where we had to put a weight on the mouse to have it keep crafting lol

[cunning siren]

I'm planning to make a tileable design with underclocks and over clocks

[visual harness]

normally I'd do that, but with the current blueprint I'm using it just seemed easier to have it all in one place

[visual harness]

ah ok, so I could use that then, the headlift is pretty high because of how I set it up tho

[dim cradle]

I'm just going to name my oil train station LIIIIQUIIIID because I'm super creative, like everyone else that plays MGS

[unkempt blade]

I would guess that's more than you'll need for just packaging if you're mostly looking for jetpack fuel and not running a lot of vehicles

[whole drum]

Speaking of vehicles... I still need to make the truck and let it hit me

~550hrs in and never used it

[visual harness]

I'd like to use it for drones, however I'm not 100% sure how much it would take to fuel them for constant usage

[true mulch]

Doesn't matter, just make it go higher than everything else (in your case the fuel generators, I assume at floor level)

[whole drum]

Need to put on a bright orange hoodie first

[true mulch]

If you can make it 20 meters, good. It should technically work with any height difference but I wouldn't trust that

[visual harness]

#screenshots message
ok, so the fuel generators are at least at current at floor level, but I take it that if I were to have them stack that I'd need to have the packaging be at the top/higher than the generators?

[true mulch]

Exactly

[unkempt blade]

ahh ok, that might not be a totally crazy number for getting some drone routes going then!

[true mulch]

Bottom fills first, so the "overflow" is at the top

Doesn't matter whether it goes back down afterwards

[visual harness]

Yea, I'll have ~400/m excess rocket fuel so I think that should be good for maybe 10-15 drones?

(drone math is not that easy to understand)

[whole drum]

The drones will use a certain amount based on distance traveled, so it's hard to say without having a loadout pre-planned

[unkempt blade]

once you set up a route it should tell you the total fuel consumption when you look at the drone port UI and then you could get a general feel for how much you'll need at least

[visual harness]

yea, I have tried a few runs with turbofuel drones, but based of what the wiki claimed, rocketfuel should last a bit more that 2x compared to turbo

[whole drum]

Also, don't make the newb mistake I did when I first set them up and try to feed them fuel with the cargo. Make a designated fuel port that links to the other ports independently.

[dim cradle]

if I just keep my oil train station hundreds of meters in the air, I don't need any pumps, right? Lol

[visual harness]

Main thing is that I need to have a canister line in my aluminum plant, and unfortunately those will be voided by the drones o7

[whole drum]

As long as you don't build higher than it, but you might be gated by pipe throughput

Unless you're unpackaging into a series of pipes from there

[visual harness]

Yea, I have allready made a desegnated drone port for reciving drone fuel at my main base, to fuel the other drones

[whole drum]

I don't think pumps are so hard to work with as to be worth the effort of a sky-train tho, lol

[visual harness]

oh yea, I'm somewhat suprised that the pumps worked the first try on the production line I made.
Wanted to experiment with using water towers to have full headlift for the entire system, even if it was most likely unnecessary

[dim cradle]

Sky train is super easy though, I needed it to go super high to avoid all the garbage anyway, due to how low that lake or crater or whatever was

[whole drum]

Sky-train would be more worthwhile for the novelty if you were to fancy it up for a YT vid or something

[shy mulch]

Trains that follow the contours of the scenery look so much cooler imo

[charred sandal]

#screenshots message

Will this work?

Trying to attach an elevator directly from a smelter to a splitter

[whole drum]

They certainly look more natural

[tranquil maple]

it should, but you can always hover over the gap with a belt and see if it snaps

[charred sandal]

oh okay. that makes sense

[whole drum]

I've found that it almost never double snaps correctly. Always check.

[unkempt blade]

I like skyroads/trains but I like to build factories as "supports" under the tracks too

[dim cradle]

There are sky bridges all over the map, natural went out the window lol

[whole drum]

I do this too

It's so much work to try to snake your logistics through the forests or around cliffs

Plus, sky roads don't get harassed by the locals

[unkempt blade]

if I weren't using so many factory carts I'd consider using the natural roads more but driving carts on dirt is awful

[whole drum]

I don't use any of the wheeled vehicles, lol

[rustic pier]

Same.. i dont wanna make roads lol

[whole drum]

I just don't like how they hande

[warm pendant]

finished building roads aaaaa

from rocky desert to northern made a way

[leaden turret]

cut to 1.2 adding spline roads

[cunning siren]

WOH! I built a pipeline wall support on the bottom of a foundation and it went invisible! I can still see it with mouse over but not otherwise 🤔

[warm pendant]

its been 52hours since i rebuild my whole factories and made a road for myself

its so tiring

[charred sandal]

Not my dumbass just realizing you can use blueprints in blueprints

[final basin]

Do you guys know how to remove other players from the game? I have a friend sitting there, sipping MENACINGLY for now 3month....

[charred sandal]

No idea but try save editor lmao

[cunning siren]

If I experience stress while doing something it's a good sign my focus is to much on the end result vs. enjoying what I'm doing now

[warm pendant]

msg him/her to install the game again and move the character xD

[warm pendant]

im stressing cuz the output is nowhere to be found

[cunning siren]

Ok, that sounds like an example of to much focus on the "end result" (Output) maybe

[dim cradle]

I guess I'll just make the factory endpoint station BIG BOSS so that it'll take all of the liq-- wait oh...

[warm pendant]

personnel elevator is now my favorite afk spot

[dim cradle]

Do fluid buffers need a pump at the outlet

[hard ivy]

KILL THEM (no, really)

[dim cradle]

or are they ok without one

[hard ivy]

Both in and out, ideally. Or rather, ideally, you wouldn't use a buffer in the first place

[warm pendant]

buffer is like a reserve right?

[feral portal]

is it wise to use all the northern oil fields for a 28.5 GW fuel power plant or should I save them for other uses?

[shy mulch]

There's very few use cases where a buffer is helpful. Needing one is usually a sign that you're doing things in a weird and/or inefficient way. Maybe share details of your setup and why you think you need a buffer?

[shy mulch]

there's loads of oil, if you need the power go for it

[feral portal]

i mean rn not really i just set up a 7.7GW fuel power plant and i'm only using like 2GW, i was thinking of making this in advance for my megafactory

[cunning siren]

How much "magic head lift" does a "VIP junction" give? 🤔

[shy mulch]

depends on what scale you want your megafactory, decide roughly how much power you think you'll need

[hard ivy]

That sounds very low for all of the northern oil

[shy mulch]

if you use nitro rocket fuel, 150 oil is enough for 36GW

[feral portal]

well if i overclock every extractor to 250% i get 3450 crude oil a min (13 nodes)

[rough rock]

Guys quick question, do you think doing every single item modularly is better or connecting separate factories is better

[hard ivy]

It doesn't have any magic head lift? It uses pumps in its design so the head lift is whatever those pumps give

[feral portal]

that gives me 2280 fuel per min and i can use 114 generators to create 28.5gw

[feral portal]

i'm at tier 6

[zenith pecan]

Nitro rocket allowed me to keep my production floors in the three towers fairly compact and just focus on the colossal generator section.

[hard ivy]

That's 115 GW of regular fuel

[shy mulch]

don't make too large a system at the moment, you'll get more efficient types of fuel later, so just make what you need for now and scale up once you unlock the better ones

[ashen crane]

Ay guys, Im hella new to the game, can someone help me with the power graph?

[shy mulch]

Oh, and always fully overclock all miners and extractors, there's really no reason not to

[shy mulch]

if it's something simple then post in #screenshots and link the post here, if it's something complicated make a thread in #1038092680493801533

[feral portal]

how? 3450 crude oil generates about 2300 fuel (3450/60 = 57.5 times that by 40 is 2300)

[ashen crane]

How i know its smth simple or not? I dont rll know

[feral portal]

and i think that's like 28750mw

[cunning siren]

I'm guessing that also applies to the 10 m headlift for outputs

[hard ivy]

Alts

Heavy oil Residue and Diluted fuel (packaged or blender) specifically

[shy mulch]

come on, use some common sense and judgement, will someone be able to look at a picture and give you a 1 sentence answer

[feral geyser]

It might be better to just ask your question, cuz it might not even need a screenshot

[silk ocean]

You can't sink Power Shards?

[feral geyser]

No

[silk ocean]

Gah xD

[ashen crane]

Nope, probably will need to join in the game lol

[hard ivy]

Nope :)

[shy mulch]

why don't you just ask the question

[silk ocean]

Bleh XD

[feral portal]

i'm confused you can use the byproduct for energy?

[feral geyser]

Turn them into ionized fuel

[shy mulch]

nobody is going to join your game to help fix an issue with your power graph

[feral geyser]

Yes, alt recipe lets you blend it with water to make fuel

[hard ivy]

What byproduct?

[feral portal]

residue

[hard ivy]

It's not a byproduct of the Heavy Oil Residue recipe

It's the main product

[feral portal]

oh i see i didn't know u could use it that way

[feral geyser]

Yeah, it need alts, but you can get tons of fuel from the recipe line

[feral portal]

would 7.7gw be enough to complete phase 3? i haven't constructed much from oil stuff yet but my other factories from previous stages use like 2gw

[feral geyser]

Seems like it should be

It depends how much you build

[scenic mirage]

itd be cool if you could use a manufacturer as an assembler

[shy mulch]

that seems like a bit of a waste of space and power, what advantage would that offer?

[feral geyser]

You could finish phase 3 saving power with just a few machines at low rate, or build tons of machines for faster rate but use more power

[hard ivy]

🤔 you could easily mod it to do that

Idk why you'd want to

[shy mulch]

there's no lower or upper bound
more power = more machines = complete faster
build as big or as small as you want

[scenic mirage]

idk itd just be cool 🤷‍♂️

[shy mulch]

if you're modding machine usage, make converters act like smelters

[dim cradle]

Can't avoid that with a train. Also my train station endpoint at the factory will be hundreds of meters in the air, so question is do they actually need pumps, or is some amount of head lift to be expected

[scenic mirage]

im still in phase 4 i havent unlocked nuclear yet

[dim cradle]

The factory will be far below where the oil is at

[feral geyser]

If the fluids are flowing down, you shouldn't need pumps

[shy mulch]

if you're outputting liquid from a train, any machine below the station won't need any pumps

[dim cradle]

yeah this crater lake or whatever is pretty convenient

[hard ivy]

You can avoid it by using packaged liquid lol.

A buffer provides head lift proportional to its fill level, so if the pipe is going straight down, you don't need any head lift so you don't need a pump after

[final basin]

What if . ... i make an hypertube launcher loop... so when they log in they get stuck

[dim cradle]

all of the oil extractors are a little higher or the same height as the train station

and then the train is going to be high in the air lmao

at the end point

[feral portal]

is it better to smelt everything in the mining location then ship to the factory via trains, or ship the ores to the factory directly?

[shy mulch]

if they haven't logged in for 3 months, then that's unlikely to make any difference

[final basin]

They are a close friend tho

[feral geyser]

They won't be close once they log in 😏 😏

[shy mulch]

they'll be 15km in the air 😛

[final basin]

https://tenor.com/view/getting-thrown-out-evan-the-troll-the-barbarian-and-the-troll-throw-me-away-discarded-gif-21058977

._.

[feral geyser]

Embed fail

[final basin]

Well... the embed name gives the vibe

[dim cradle]

I'm trying to figure out whether I should use 2 oil compartments per pure oil source or just one on the train

rn I'm just blanket using 1 oil compartment per oil source

[warm pendant]

do you guys follow the world snap for foundations?

[shy mulch]

working stuff like that out and making those decisions is one of the core components of the game

[shy mulch]

sometimes yes, sometimes no

[heavy bloom]

Having a weird issue where machines aren't stacking all the way to a full stack, like I have assemblers with conveyers full of resources but it's only stacking let's say 30 iron plate and 60 wire

Or a constructor that only takes in a 9 stack of ingot but with a conveyer full waiting to go into it

[shy mulch]

are the machines powered and actively producing stuff?

[hard ivy]

Input probably clogged with something else

[heavy bloom]

Yeah everything's all good

[shy mulch]

delete the belt and add the belt again

[heavy bloom]

100% efish too

[shy mulch]

wait

so it's working at 100% efficiency

[heavy bloom]

Nada, just stops

[shy mulch]

so what's the problem?

is it using materials at the same speed they are being fed in?

[heavy bloom]

Hang on

[winged bronze]

Out of curiosity, on console do you think we’ll be able to transfer blueprints from saves? Or will we need to redo each blueprints every time we start a new save?

[unkempt blade]

💯 🇪 🐟

[heavy bloom]

https://streamable.com/51g93v

[hard ivy]

Well, can you access the save files of a game on console?

[heavy bloom]

The ingots are just sat on the conveyer although they could stack inside the constructor

[whole drum]

I usually think it's better to smelt on site then ship the products, but if the total output is going to be greater than the input, just belt the raw closer to where you plan to process it

[dim cradle]

this would be a lot easier if the train would have some sort of printout where it said, "hey each of my trips takes this long", though.

[winged bronze]

Yes but will we be able to access our blueprints. Because some of the ones I make on PC take a long time depending on how detailed it is. And fortunately I can just copy and paste into my new save lol

[warm pendant]

uh what do you guys use the 6 norma iron nodes in rocky desert spawn?

[whole drum]

Treat it the same as 3 pure

[warm pendant]

i mean do you use this 6nodes for mid to late game?

[whole drum]

Depends on where you start

[warm pendant]

or just a supply for making the basic iron things?

[whole drum]

That location can be a start location, for example

[hard ivy]

I don't have a console so idk. If you can access save files of other games, then no reason why you wouldn't be able to access Satisfactory's

[dim cradle]

seriously, the timetable doesn't have a round trip timer?

That's something really basic you'd expect them to put in by now

oh well....

[whole drum]

That would have so many caveats attached...

[heavy bloom]

https://streamable.com/t8unzc

Assemblers only taking in a max of 30 plate & 60 wire - with plate and wire just hung up on the input conveyers

Am I missing something obvious or is something funky

[dim cradle]

I mean sure but it's very simple just calculate transit time. I know unloading and loading takes time

but me having to sit on the train with a timer on is just silly

[whole drum]

What I would do is just use the belt monitors after it has done a few trips to see what the output looks like

[shy mulch]

do you have any mods installed

[heavy bloom]

I do

But this is only happening at a couple of factories idgi

[whole drum]

It can take a little bit, so maybe just record it and afk while you do something else, come back and just watch the recording, fast forward to the clock times

[dim cradle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Train_throughput Round trip duration is pretty critical in calculating train throughput...

ah yeah you're right i could record it, good idea

then I could use vid timestamps too

I've done that for things before but for some reason it didn't hit my head here thanks

[whole drum]

Yeah, it's not as clean as an in-game system, but it'll be accurate

[heavy bloom]

Scratch that, all smelters are 3/1 ore too

[white dawn]

I personally never bother mathing out train delivery stuff. I just set up the route and watch it; if it turns out that I need another car, I'll add another car

[shy mulch]

the answer to weird behaviour that doesn't happen to anyone else is usually "probably caused by a badly written mod"

[white dawn]

Shouldn't take more than a delivery or two to know if the one car/platform is insufficient. (Or 2 platforms, etc. Whatever you set it up as in the first place)

[heavy bloom]

i'm fuming, who do i sue

[shy mulch]

or be like me and just sit and watch your stations for hours on end, you'll eventually notice if something isn't working properly 😛

[shy mulch]

disable all mods and see if the problem still happens

[unkempt blade]

SCIM will show you the route distance in the timetable stuff (transportation section => trains icon in the upper right => timetables) and then you can do napkin math to get the route time. There's some guesswork for acceleration or like if you train network has lots of traffic where waiting would come in, etc. but you can get close

[dim cradle]

lol it's funny how different the transit times to and from the base are

because it has to climb to get the oil to my sky platform, but it can't even brake fast enough getting back down

[unkempt blade]

I'm pretty lazy (and I just like seeing vehicles driving around) so I usually just give it way more trains/cars than I expect it to need

leaving a little extra room on the sidetrack for trains to queue at the station is a lot less annoying that doing math or timing every route

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
10 HMF/min 🔥

[shy mulch]

Looks very compact, nicely done

[scenic mirage]

ty ty

i could prob squeeze like 4 more/min out of it too

[vast fable]

I can’t wait for console drop. Just do it today!

[leaden turret]

drops your console, is now broken

[vast fable]

Oh well, now I must read a book I guess 😓

[pearl geyser]

#screenshots for my first 1 update

[shy mulch]

When I build stuff like that, I like to do it all with no overclocking and under-utilised belts, so if I have a need in the future to x2 everything, I can just throw some shards at it and job done

[scenic mirage]

fair then it wouldnt be as compact

[shy mulch]

mine are very not compact 😛

[scenic mirage]

😛

[unkempt blade]

I liked all the "how much can I fit into [dimensions]" energy there was right after the blueprinter release. I just can't get excited about compactness outside of a 3x3x3 cube 😆

[whole drum]

wtb Explosive Turbo Rifle Ammo

[strong crater]

hey

My name is agustin and i need to do a work for my university about satisfactory i need to get to tier 6 anyone could give me a hand?

[dim cradle]

I actually didn't give this train anywhere near enough, but all the plastic I had was from crash sites so oh well

[whole drum]

What are you using SF for with regard to your assignment?

[strong crater]

Yes! i am from argentina and my professor loves satisfactory,and the subject is "
costs for decision making" so i need to do all de cost of production of my factory and everything but i am new to the game

I am currently at the hub upgrate number 2 but this game is a little complex and i need some sort a guide

[whole drum]

Is he looking for a breakdown of the raw materials you need, or is it more about the opportunity cost of doing A vs B?

[strong crater]

breakdown of everything

[shy mulch]

to be honest for something like that you're probably better off analysing the data on the wiki

[whole drum]

Well, if your connection can handle it, I can join you and voice to help explain some things. For really detailed stuff, you're probably better off asking some of the expert/veteran players here, or like WasIstDaz suggests, use external resources like the wiki or SF Tools site.

Getting to tier 6 can take a bit unless you have a very experienced/speed-runner player helping you

[real storm]

I am popping in for an important lore question: Is the coffee mug high tech that keeps your coffee(or other beverage of choice) hot even as the quantity dwindles?!

[whole drum]

That would be remarkable, lol

[silk ocean]

I need it, my coffee is always getting cold 😈

[whole drum]

Same

[strong crater]

okay thanks youu

were we can talk?

[real storm]

My tea is currently getting cold. Its supposed to be hot to soothe an aching throat!

[whole drum]

Just DM me

[strong crater]

okay

Give me a sec i am starting the game

[whole drum]

ok

[unkempt blade]

sounds like you should check out https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production and @reef basin was cool enough to put the code on github (which I don't think I can link from this channel but it's at the bottom of that other link's page)

[strong crater]

wow! thanks you so much for sure i will give it a look

[thorny prawn]

If anyone here hasn't yet, go to the satisfactory soundtrack on your preferred music streaming service and look up all the songs with the last word "effect" the different real effects they named some of the songs after are really funny

[leaden turret]

soundtrack is available on steam

[mortal ginkgo]

Guys a question if I may.

I am providing 107/min ore to a smelter setup that asks for 106,666/min ore. I am still getting one smelter starved.

Am I supposed to slightly overshoot it?

[silk ocean]

Just means the miner will power down every now and again, no biggie

[mortal ginkgo]

Gotcha, thank chu.

[silk ocean]

Not very often seeing as it's a mere fraction of overproduction

[iron idol]

Which T2 Milestone should I unlock first?

My brain tells me Obstacle Clearing

[scenic mirage]

before part assembly?

[charred sandal]

#screenshots message

Will I ever need this much steel? prob not

Still have 300 compacted coal to figure out what to do with...

[silk ocean]

Can't believe you can't sink Power Shards.... it's like nuclear waste all over again XD

[unkempt coral]

I.....I just finished the game yesterday......did not have time to try anything from phase 5 beside the belts.......

[leaden turret]

you should only start worrying if your bowls start telling you the same thing

[charred sandal]

Lowkey considering just making it 2400 steel/min and using that for my rods + plates. Opinions?

[iron idol]

Do i choose iron wire or more inventory slots from this hard drive i just researched?

[silk ocean]

If you have dimensional depot you don't really need much inventory

[iron idol]

Which I don't

[silk ocean]

Rush the depot in the alien tech tree you won't regret it XD

[iron idol]

But do I get more inventory space or the Iron Wire?

[scenic mirage]

do you need iron wire? or more inventory space?

[silk ocean]

Iron Wire is quite good but if you need the slots, go for that

[iron idol]

I went for mor inventory

[scenic mirage]

also you can choose to not pick a recipe and itll be excluded from future hard drives

[untold moat]

i've noticed a couple times if the pool for recipes is too small, it can come up again if it can pick nothing else

[iron idol]

Alright, I've unlocked underclocking, which should make screw production more manageable

[scenic mirage]

if the pool for recipes is too small itll only show 1 recipe
#screenshots message

[scenic mirage]

screw production will never be manageble until you get alternate recipes that dont use screws

[untold moat]

odd. I once had three different drives with steel rod in my scanned reserves.

[stuck thunder]

got sent to space with the pod, wish that death crates would fall down smh

[worthy marsh]

When update?

[white dawn]

If you mean for the game itself, we don't currently have any info when the next update will be. There's been a bit of activity on the Experimental branch to test out some newer bugfixes/improvements, but it'll probably be awhile before any of that becomes public (and unknown when the next v1.2 will be coming out)

There's the console release coming out next week

[leaden turret]

2026*

[silk ocean]

Soon™

[scenic mirage]

console is in 2025?

[iron idol]

Okay, I need some advice, do I sacrifice half of my iron rod production for screws or do i try and have them be their own seperate production line

[leaden turret]

☝️

[scenic mirage]

try it

the point of the game is to experiment and try things differently

[stuck thunder]

anyone know if you can dismantle death crates?

[scenic mirage]

if you dont like the results you can always deconstruct and get 100% of your materials back

[leaden turret]

they dismantle when you empty them

[stuck thunder]

well

i cant reach it to empty it

[scenic mirage]

SCIM editor works too

[leaden turret]

🏃‍♀️‍➡️
🪜
🪜
🪜
🪜
🪜 🪦📦

[stuck thunder]

thats what im trying but i cant get high enough into the death zone

and even survive

[dim cradle]

Might be able to just grab an invincibility mod or something temp

[scenic mirage]

reload an earlier save?

[worthy marsh]

Thanks for info

[bronze atlas]

why can you not get into the "death zone"? is ti radioactive or gas or just monsters?

[stuck thunder]

last autosave is after it happened

[stuck thunder]

constant DoT from something, asphyxiation ig

[bronze atlas]

gas can always be removed by destroying whatever is causing it. Get some explosives and blow it up

[stuck thunder]

if i could send a ss youd see lol

[bronze atlas]

doubt it, ive never been in a situation where the gas could not be removed by explosives. Post the ss in the screenshot group

[stuck thunder]

#screenshots message

[bronze atlas]

okay i admit never being in that situation.

[stuck thunder]

lmfao i rode the pod

[scenic mirage]

yeah just reload a save before you died or you can use scim to edit the location

[leaden turret]

yeah that's a save edit job 😛

[stuck thunder]

dont have a save recent enough

[bronze atlas]

i think there is a mod that will teleport death crates back to starting position that might be your best bet if you have no saves

[scenic mirage]

scim it is

[bronze atlas]

or that yeah

[stuck thunder]

ill look into it, tyy

[leaden turret]

scim linked in #welcome , save file location shown in #faq

[dim cradle]

#screenshots message dang your body must be higher up than where I filmed this garbage. I'm surprised the game would actually spawn a death crate that high up...

[stuck thunder]

scim says 2437m

[hard ivy]

iirc the game spawns the crate right where you press respawn. or at least in some situations

also, that's a very crunchy video lol

[scenic mirage]

ya i think so

[dim cradle]

It was long so I had to make it pixellated

I was wanting to see if I could somehow harness sloop beams to launch myself harmlessly across the map

the answer is no, it doesn't matter how you go in, you're not coming out the other side

I guess the math for oil+train is on a pure source I get 240/min and each platform has 2400 storage, so I guess theoretically it should take 10 mins to fill up just one platform? Round trip transit is 5:21, so do I actually even need a buffer? Maybe if I overclocked it to over 2x...

I guess on the output side I'd need it regardless though

[bronze atlas]

power gens and extractors are the best things to use your overclocking for. I basically never have less than fully overclocked unless i need a specific amount of resource from the extractor. I usually build for max output.

[dim cradle]

I overclock miners all the time

[small pebble]

Miners are perma clocked

[bronze atlas]

i count liquid/gas extractors as part of that

[dim cradle]

To get them to the max throughput of the belt

Also I have like 2 fully overclocked and slooped SAM constructors that are just throwing it right into the coupon machine

[bronze atlas]

i havent used many sloops in my regular machines, so far. Just one augmenter, and then a few machines i use for when i just want to hand feed something to make it quick instead of building a whole factory line for it.

Oh and for alien dna, gotta sloop that or you're being wasteful.

[dim cradle]

Says I'm getting 54k points/min

which considering I'm not throwing anything I'm actually using, I guess that's not too bad

I think late game I'm probably going to use those things tho

[bronze atlas]

for sure. I think mines getting about 330k right now, but im at the point where i only need tickets for the statues and the occasional handful of parts

[dim cradle]

Just assuming...

[cunning siren]

For the last 3 playthroughs I planned to gather ~64 sloops every time for a 10 BWD sink as kind of an end game goal thing, changed things up every time thought. I ❤️ to sloop !

[dim cradle]

Hmm... if a throw up a powered random mk1 pump in the middle of nowhere with some pipe that just goes to itself and contains nothing, does it count as a "powered building" for the purposes of mob spawns?

[mystic oriole]

Why would you want to disable mob spawns? That's like walking coupons.

[dim cradle]

I don't want them where I'm actually setting things up, or near that

Everywhere else tots fine

also has anyone tried to make a bunch of belts at a mob spawn that throws them off a cliff to see if you can make an automated meat factory?

[bronze atlas]

i know CSS has said they don't want base defense to be part of the game, but i kinda wish there was something like a tesla coil you could drop down to zap any creatures that get too close.

[dim cradle]

Just want a kill farm >_>

[mystic oriole]

you mean a coupon farm.

[cunning siren]

Unlimited meats!

[mystic oriole]

unlimited coupons

[dim cradle]

for some reason I feel like it wouldn't work though

probably because I'm assuming you have to be nearby for them to spawn

[leaden turret]

[mystic oriole]

rad hogs have an insane amount of HP. Where they can tank the fall damage all day.

[cunning siren]

Do creatures even care about belts?

[zealous mesa]

I should start a new game and disregard style completely

[dim cradle]

so you'd have to make like a closed in mkwhatever track to afk on while you just pass by mob spawns so they can die

[zealous mesa]

Is Satisfactory still fun in 2025?

[cunning siren]

I hear Chess is still fun in 2025

[dim cradle]

It's a few new things from when I played 3 years ago but overall pretty similar game. If it was fun then it's probably fun now

[versed mesa]

👋

[zealous mesa]

Chess will be fun in 50 years too

[dim cradle]

nah I'm sure those dudes don't actually like chess, they just wanna be good at it

for sure

[cunning siren]

Not all folk are the same

[zealous mesa]

Thanks for the input, you're legendary

[dim cradle]

was mostly joking lol

maybe a little not joking

[reef wasp]

Yes.

[mystic oriole]

lots of things are still fun in 2025

[fallow flame]

Is it possible to delete all our buildings with one click? I want to start over, rebuild from scratch, and keep everything I've unlocked 😄

I'm starting to dismantle everything and store it all in containers... but it's taking a long time ^^

[zealous mesa]

MTG is still fun, but not in the same way Satisfactory appears to be

[mystic oriole]

you can load your game in the map editor and just delete everything

[cunning siren]

I start a new game, that's how I delete everything 😆

[mystic oriole]

MTG is 'fun' but it is pay to win.

[dim cradle]

Would you want to do that though? Would get rid of slugs and sloops and whatnot right?

[zealous mesa]

Yeah I definitely agree

[fallow flame]

Ah, thank you! I've never used that before! I'll look into it, thanks 🙂

[dim cradle]

Not renewable...

[cunning siren]

Print your own cards 🤷 and then it's not

[dim cradle]

Lol I think I said that same thing to some dude in Diablo 3 in the main chat and they just totally lost their stuff and spewed so much vitriol at me. Some MTG people are...

[mystic oriole]

Yes but you can't enter a tournament that way. And there's plenty of people out there that wont play against those who own printed cards.

[cunning siren]

It sounds like those limitations are a problem for you specifically then?

[mystic oriole]

I found out the hard way. So yes.

[dim cradle]

Can only play against friends with printed cards probably. Anyone that's spent a fortune optimizing their decks will probably hold someone that just used a printer in some disdain

The publisher will also hate you

[cunning siren]

I would play with people who are not attached to paper and ink 😆

[mystic oriole]

I know this one guy who wouldn't play against me with printed tokens. Although his deck was something like $6000

[cunning siren]

Yea, can't do much about what other people do

[dim cradle]

that's a lot. Not as much as I spend on anime figures but still a lot

At least I can sell those, I wonder how much he could make back on that

[bronze atlas]

Might actually be easier to start a new save, open it in SCIM map editor, and then just unlock all the researches you have unlocked. That will prevent the loss of any harvested power slugs etc

[cunning siren]

I gave away a mint Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale to my friends brother, ~13 years ago. Still think about that sometimes 😆

[mystic oriole]

ROI's on MTG cards are debatable.
Although, you'd have to store them at mint condition for a very long time to get any kind of ROI

[charred sandal]

Some distances feel too long for a belt but way too short for a train...

[leaden turret]

🏭 🌲 🌲 🌲 🌲 🌲🏭

[charred sandal]

What does this mean

[white dawn]

Vehicles!

[leaden turret]

can use carts

[charred sandal]

Theres carts? do u mean trucks? Will google the carts

[leaden turret]

!wikisearch Factory+Cart

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Factory+Cart

[dim cradle]

I need to make a stupid truck route soon just to say I did it

wonder how hard it is to make it work

[charred sandal]

The cart only has one slot..?

[cunning siren]

MANY carts 😆

[charred sandal]

Why that over a truck lol

[cunning siren]

For the lulz maybe 🤷

[leaden turret]

requires no fuel

[charred sandal]

mmk. Trucks can use compacted coal right? Ill prob do that lol

[dim cradle]

I think since I unlocked oil I can probably use that on a truck somehow

Somehow.

[shrewd palm]

you can turn it into fuel and use it

or plasticor any other solid

[cunning siren]

I have yet to use a truck for transport 😆

I drove one once, hit a doggo never got back in

[shrewd palm]

i made one truck loop and it didnt work and i havent touched them since then

[dim cradle]

I'm assuming it's like factorio where better fuel makes you go faster?

[shrewd palm]

trucks were always falling off or somehow getting deadlocked

[shrewd palm]

im pretty sure they're always at the same speed and instead just get more efficient

[charred sandal]

I made exactly one truck route for coal at the start of my play through

and it hasnt failed yet :3

[shrewd palm]

like fuel and liquid biofuel would be c tier, turbofuel b tier, uranium rods and rocket fuel in a tier, and then ionized and plutonium in s tier

[charred sandal]

Oh does better fuel make them go faster

[shrewd palm]

no, they're just more efficient

[cunning siren]

OH, IDK battery stack size was 200 🤔 that makes it much better

[unkempt blade]

They take up so much space! Unlike the lean and efficient factory cart

[cunning siren]

I prefer my lean and efficient belts trains and drones 😆

I suppose since I've never used a truck that's a false statement though 🤔 I don't really know at that point

[unkempt blade]

trains are glorious but they're also chonkers

[cunning siren]

Yea, if they had more ability to be controled like other games I would be more inclined to use them

I use them sometimes

Rocket fuel is so easy to make though, it's hard not to use that for "everything"

The aluminum requirement for batteries seems a bit to much IMO, I mean I get the logic of how sulfur and aluminum can make a battery

[silk ocean]

Forgot to name one of my trains.... outrageous... heads will roll over this disaster xD

[cunning siren]

I would totally go for a Caterium Battery alt

[silk ocean]

CatBatt

[dim cradle]

wait is there no vertical pipe, like there is vertical belt

[frail sleet]

nope just pipe

same as there is no splitter or merger, just junction

[dim cradle]

oh but I can just make a very long wall going down from my sky train and buy the wall mounts I guess

[green fiber]

pipes have a lot more freedom with their angles

so you dont need a seperate buildable to go vertical

[dim cradle]

pity I can only fit about 4 pipes on one wall

maybe 5?

[cunning siren]

The "meta" seems to be to make a blueprint for a stack of "free floating pipes" and stretch them with auto-connect feature

[frail sleet]

four, they fit tightly with 2m spacing but not 1.5m

2m spacing forces you to clip pumps / powerlines a bit but no big deal

[dim cradle]

5 did actually fit it's just it's basically on the edge of the platform, like halfway off lol

[frail sleet]

if one at each side is halfway off, yes

but if you tile that, it's just 5/1.25 instead of 4/1, but now hanging over the edge

[dim cradle]

Sky oil dispenser train's done #screenshots message

[small dock]

I have a few friends we're looking for a coop game. We've played MC, and factorio.

Would satisfactory be too 'engineery' ? If we're looking for a sort of mindless co-op game?

[dim cradle]

I think if none of you want to think at all, then yeah it might be. But there are tasks that can be done sort of mindlessly like exploration and killing

you can sort of make most of your factory derpy garbage if you don't want to think. It's definitely not as hectic as factorio

[small dock]

Ah, I was thinking since it's 3D it would be even more hectic then factorio.

[dim cradle]

it makes it a little more annoying than factorio because yeah you do have to worry about falling off a platform while you're building sometimes

and there aren't any blueprint building drones though you do get blueprints in the game a bit later

but resources don't run out, aliens aren't attacking your base all the time

you can just coast off of a crappy factory if you don't mind just waiting objectives out

whereas if you mess up in Factorio your entire base could be getting destroyed or something

These "pure" ingot types look kind of appealing. Any downsides to them?

I have plenty of water up on that plateau in the desert so I can just pump it down...

[candid torrent]

refineries use a lot more power

but that’s about it

[frail sleet]

they take enough extra time and effort to set up, and there's so much ore on the map, that it's usually just easier to get more ore

[candid torrent]

oh and space

[frail sleet]

you need a top end pc and a thousand hour build plan to even entertain the idea of pure-ing all of the ore on the map and spending it

[candid torrent]

but if u have space and power pure recipes are lovely

[dim cradle]

Well I was mostly thinking that instead if I wanted to be lazy and just maximize how much I squeeze out of each ore source, going pure wouldn't be that bad

[candid torrent]

i use pure recipes if i’m feeling too lazy to import more raw material

[frail sleet]

yeah it's not terrible, it's just a waste of time/effort/space if you leave an untapped or undertapped node next to it until you quit the world.

[candid torrent]

it’s nice to be able to spread a single ore node just that little bit further w.o needing to add more ore

[dim cradle]

but if I'm actually going to stick to my terrible geothermal/sloop power only plan, idk if I could handle the power

[cunning siren]

Better build a mountan of power storage too if that's your plan

[frail sleet]

my (non overclocked) refineries for pure stuff on maybe 1/3'rd of the map resources eat 32 GW

[dim cradle]

I'm not gonna 100% commit to the geothermal idea I'll just decide later ig lol

[candid torrent]

40 smelters only uses 160mw of power

[cunning siren]

I did a low power run last time, compleated phase 4 with 13 GW 😆

[candid torrent]

i believe the same amount of ore into refineries would use 2400mw of power

it’s uhhh small difference

[dim cradle]

hmm... so if I actually turn 100 sloops into power things, they'd produce about 10gw by themselves

[reef basin]

Also some parts of the code (e.g. solver) are private, feel free to DM ne if you have questions or something

[dim cradle]

all the geothermal in the world with 100% amp would be about 14k average

I guess that's 24k

[candid torrent]

ish

[cunning siren]

Thinking of all the wasted potential of all that sloopage 😆

[mortal ginkgo]

Oh dear Lord.

I got emotional damage from just reading this.

[dim cradle]

I guess sacrifices have to be made for the sake of saving the planet

or I could just do nuclear and skip oil

[cunning siren]

OH, it sounds like you are attempting some kind of "green run" maybe?

[dim cradle]

Kinda? Not really since I have coal plants sitting here right now

But I'd be curious if skipping coal would even be viable

[cunning siren]

I do it all the time

[dim cradle]

Well your bio things

What do they do to make the power out of organic stuff

Like do they have stomachs and just crap stuff out

[frail sleet]

biofuel is kinda better than coal with midgame tech

because you can sloop it x2^3

[dim cradle]

Looks to me like these biomass burners are... well... burning the biomass

so they're not pollution free either

So the only "early game" clean electricity is sloops

[unkempt coral]

biofluel is for jetpack and player driven vehicle, I don't see it being used in production since it's not infinite

[dim cradle]

""""early game""""

[frail sleet]

You can make a lot of it. It also drops infinitely from animals.

If you sloop the remains of a uranium hog, it has more energy than a uranium fuel rod.

You can sustain easily 20GW, and possibly over 100 GW of power on biofuel and sloops (incl augs)

[mortal ginkgo]

Sloops are kinda doing this whole "energy out of nowhere brotherman is our reality doing ok because I don't feel so good" so dunno, maybe some smoke could be better for nature.

[dim cradle]

I'm sure it's fine, breathing pink smoke is a harmless side effect

[dim cradle]

seeing the existence of string theory and various otherverses is just your delusions

ah yeah... refiners are indeed a little large huh

[mortal ginkgo]

well I am not the one making ultra alien sounds with purple smoke that seems to be coming out of an unspeakable horrific void

[dim cradle]

I can't even really make a blueprint out of this on a 4x4 early game blueprint tbh

[quick idol]

i know its always difficult to say how many of an item one should produce but what is a good number fpr coolingdevices. i thought about 60pm, do you guys think this would be enough to power a Factory for turbomotors and have some to spare for the future?

[mortal ginkgo]

nop. Needs 5x5. just go for it. Its really easy to get the mk2 BP

[unkempt coral]

what's the point of portals? I finished the game yesterday.....I used it ONCE before doing the last elevator parts and realise I have no need to expand the base

[mortal ginkgo]

Well you were just being so efficient that you didn't need portals 😛

You either continue playing with them or before.

[frail sleet]

the biomass that makes up the body of the hog is built with co2 from the air, you're just releasing it back in an endlessly sustainable cycle

Would be the same if plants grew back, but they don't 😛

[dim cradle]

Then I guess the coal, which is compressed remains of things over millennia is also totally kosher...!

[mortal ginkgo]

Why is Ficsit hiring people that are concerned about an alien planet?

[frail sleet]

Bit different though, millions of years (if ever) to re-sequester vs only minutes for a hog to respawn 😄

[cunning siren]

Pipe junctions so slim compared to splitters, chonky boys, lots of clipping when used in the same space pipe junctions take 🤔

[dim cradle]

Wow yeah actually this pure ingot recipe is insanely efficient on the copper

[mortal ginkgo]

ok now explain us how can somethng "respawns" every night!

[mortal ginkgo]

It has the side effect of "needing to put refiniries in ridiculous amounts"

[frail sleet]

magic ✨

[mortal ginkgo]

.... you won this time. But I will be back.

[dim cradle]

even on mk3 track you can make an insane amount of copper ingots from this tho

I guess I just need to platform the entire desert

[mortal ginkgo]

Ah so you never heard of Copper Powder..

[copper belfry]

just a question guys

when you get the radiation suit

[mortal ginkgo]

Also I just saw a purple deep underground section that was close to a Greet Stinger I AM NOT GOING IN THERE and I am happy that devs made it.

But no.

[frail sleet]

you found the hole? 😄

[mortal ginkgo]

I found the hole and was not prepared to open mine.

[dim cradle]

Lol I blew up one big hole one time and put a latter going down

[cunning siren]

!wikisearch Hazmat Suit

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Hazmat+Suit

[mortal ginkgo]

I am NOT going in there even if there is 25 sloops and catgirls there.

[frail sleet]

It's perfectly placed to throw your Explorer down there if you're not ultra careful about driving 😄

[copper belfry]

I did the stupid idea to make a fabric close to a spot with some creatures that spread some kind of toxic gas and is annoying asf to continue building

[frail sleet]

https://youtu.be/bAIbvlobWDM?t=3

[copper belfry]

oh okay there's a suit for gases and radiation

[mortal ginkgo]

There is too much deepest lore moments you are stating that makes too much sense.

[unkempt coral]

62 000 MW.....and a couple of batteries for spikes in power with the accelerators and the encoders. Only 1 quantum encoder per recipe. main base in grass field, aluminium plant by the beach, nuclear plant upper in the grass field area, on the lake around the uranium node in the tunnel......that's it, that's my base

[dim cradle]

there were like a bunch of spiders in there, but the ladder was being wonky while I was throwing bombs so I kept falling in and my autosave had me respawn midair. Two more of the poison spiders spawned after I killed the other spiders and I had to just kill all of them somehow with no armor and nothing but standard bombs. Sucked but got the job done somehow

Actually idk if there even is armor in this?

[frail sleet]

blade runners count as armor

[cunning siren]

I would use cluster more if there was an option to deploy a stack at a time 😆 "Box O' "

[unkempt coral]

Didn't use ficsonium either, damn

[dim cradle]

don't have clusters yet lol, just using normal bombs for everything

[mortal ginkgo]

It was a good watch. Made me smile and expressed my feelings about that hole greatly!

[strong crater]

Okay thanks you too greeny

[jade root]

Is there a place to ask about load balancing questions

[hard ivy]

#math-and-meta or #1038092680493801533

or here ig if you don't need images

[jade root]

Thank you

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
25/min crystal oscillators 🔥

[sturdy mural]

i just died from a 6 foundation tall fall

with almost full hp
dang

[scenic mirage]

with full hp you wouldve survived

youd have a tiny bit leftover

[sturdy mural]

6 foundations.

hell
not even 6
prob 5

with the runners

how

[wicked nacelle]

Game hates you. It’s hard coded in

I heard them talk about that on one of the dev streams

[sturdy mural]

ok nvm it IS a lethal fall

but i died to lag

becuase game did not let me jetpack

#screenshots message
i cracked my ankles so bad just a sec ago i went into the aether

FICSIT Cloning Machine™ malfunctioned.

its eternity in there. /ref

[dim cradle]

Honestly? I don't mind refiners if they just make more even if they take up more space. In my mind that's just more space and complexity savings later down the line. Although they do take up a lot of space, esp considering even with mk3 belt I need like 18 refineries to actually use it all up

I did manage to make a connectable blueprint within mk1 grid bounds tho

just barely

[wicked nacelle]

4 refineries with water input is my most used blueprint by far

[dim cradle]

can't fit 4 in mk1 bounds at all

[silk lantern]

guys, help me urgently, tell me how much the character himself weighs or tell me what the acceleration of gravity in the game is in the game

[scenic mirage]

why do you need to know that lmao

[silk lantern]

I reached the hypertube phase and built a mechanism that sends me off the map and I want to find out at what distance the planet textures are and how high I can fly

[whole drum]

Wouldn't that be easier to achieve by going to sea level and building 4m wall sections vertically until you reach the boundary?

[wicked nacelle]

You can just ride the space elevator up 🙂

[amber basin]

Guys, I have an important question. Does anyone know the acceleration due to gravity (g) in the game? I just need it for ballistic calculations when building a ramp from a hypertube.

[cunning siren]

I didn't make a slooped turbo diamonds build this run and learned how much coal it really takes to make time crystals 😆

[wicked nacelle]

If you can do that calculation then you can measure and do it backwards and get it

On a little version I mean

[amber basin]

I don't want to do this by trial and error. I have a complex rapid-motion system, and I can't build everything accurately without (g). So, please tell me the acceleration due to gravity. My calculations of the mass versus time of fall don't add up.

[scenic mirage]

bro what are you on 😭

[amber basin]

I just need the acceleration of gravity. That's all.

[shrewd palm]

i dont think you can find gravity without mass and i dont think a mass has ever been given for the pioneer

might be able to find something on the wiki?

[whole drum]

It's 1

[amber basin]

The average person's mass is 70 kg, but when substituting, the maximum flight altitude does not match.

[amber basin]

THX

[whole drum]

Then do a ratio to figure out the difference?

[shut grove]

Maybe 1.2 will put the resource nodes aligned to the world grid 😝

[void cliff]

I watched the video, but I can’t tell what they did to fluids

[amber basin]

Thanks, I'll check it out.

[shrewd palm]

they're probably just making it so that there isnt as much stuff that trips people up

[sturdy mural]

guys
please tell me you can duplicate trains
or that you can just slap 2 trains onto one route

i started up my nuclear powerplant

[whole drum]

Players: We noticed fluids have problems.
Devs: Okay, have fluid trucks/trains.
Players: Those have problems too, though.
Devs: Yes!

[sturdy mural]

its too slow

[shrewd palm]

like there isnt really anything wrong with fluids in game compared to irl, its just that most people dont think of them that way so if i had to guess that they're making them align more with what the average person thinks

[shrewd palm]

yes

you can add as many trains as you want to any route

[void cliff]

You can’t just slap two of them on a track, you have to use blocks and paths to make them not crash into each other.

[whole drum]

Or slap a ton on and decide by survival of the fittest

[void cliff]

Blocks only work fine on simple loops, too

[sturdy mural]

yeah i have stuff for them to not collide to oblivion

[clever merlin]

werid i unlocked motors in steelproduction but when i try to use a assemlber it not showing up

[sturdy mural]

but idk if i can just place a 2nd train

[clever merlin]

oh nvm

[void cliff]

You probably have to program it, etc. might be able to just dupe the previous train with m3, I’m not sure

[clever merlin]

i compact my one section lol

[sturdy mural]

m3?

[void cliff]

Mouse 3 to copy existing buildings

[sturdy mural]

idk

CTRL+C didnt work

aand M3 spawns a brand new train

[iron idol]

Do I take fused wire or Catrium wire

[nova coral]

Heya ! is there a roadmap for post 1.1 ? :o

[whole drum]

Cat wire is nice just to have an alternate resource to produce with

[wicked nacelle]

You don’t “duplicate it”
You just make the same one again the same way you made the first one

[wicked nacelle]

If you don’t need an alt it’s better to not pick either. That way it locks out two recipes

Pick one later when you decide one would be helpful for what you’re currently building

[wicked nacelle]

Some of the 1.2 stuff was announced

But the game is basically done as far as we know feature set wise

[sturdy mural]

.......

my uranium mine says it has 5 ore per minute.

train came by and now its 62

[wicked nacelle]

Train throughput numbers are bad estimates. Don’t look at them

It can’t accurately tell you.

[nova coral]

oh snap! is there a link for that 1.2 stuff? :O

[sturdy mural]

oh

[wicked nacelle]

Maybe an announcement channel. Or probably pinned on Reddit?

I think it’s basically console stuff and fluid rework for it to not be stupid

I’m not expecting anything to add replay value

[wicked nacelle]

Train frequency is not predictable except for trivial configurations.

And every transport system in the game feels like it was made by a different person who had never talked to anyone else or played the game before so drones measure stuff way different than trains for example

[iron idol]

Too late :P

[sturdy mural]

wait

do freight platforms just

not dispense items

when in use? (unloading a train)

[mystic oriole]

that is what happens

use storage containers for buffers.

[deft axle]

can someone hop in vc and help me with my coal generator set up

[sturdy mural]

yeah i just did

my powerplant will be EXTRA spicy with a container now

[deft axle]

there isnt a vc huh

[reef basin]

no because they are impoissible to moderate

[wicked nacelle]

Still works for the next one though :). one of the best hard drives you can get is both the coal recipes because then you never have to see them again.

[reef basin]

share your issue in #1038092680493801533 with images. VCs are horrible way to do troubleshooting/help

[wicked nacelle]

That’s why you always buffer them with an industrial container or fluid container

[reef basin]

whichever you like the most. Don't ask us how you should play your game 😛

[wicked nacelle]

Both input and output I mean whichever one you’re using

[wicked nacelle]

You can just call someone from DMs if two people want to voice chat

[deft axle]

got it working for now

for some reason I had to jump start the water extractor with a biofuel generator

[hard ivy]

Correct

[deft axle]

I put a sc in #screenshots

[dense violet]

did you think they would extract water w/o power?

[mortal ginkgo]

yup, they need power to operate 😄

[deft axle]

no I just thought for some reason that the coal generators would start them up magically once they were online

[dense violet]

even jump pad and I'm pretty sure landing jellies need power

[mortal ginkgo]

coal gens need water to come online first soooo

[deft axle]

ye thats how I figured it out

😄

[dim cradle]

actually is there even a reason hard drives take 10 mins to scan

[dense violet]

to make you talk

[dim cradle]

With who, the people that aren't in my game or here

[dense violet]

you're talking about it aren't you?

[unkempt coral]

you can construct a M.A.M and upload it on spot and just deconstruct it, it will continue to decrypt

[dim cradle]

I know that, just I have a lot of HDDs to go through

oh well

[frail sleet]

9.8 and prob like 70kg 😄

[frail sleet]

There are several significant bugs

[dense violet]

scan them while exploring for them if you want

[scenic mirage]

Good thing beating the game takes a long time

[versed mesa]

👋

[dim cradle]

Sure but 30 of them is like 5 hours... I guess I shouldn't use all of them at once tho

[versed mesa]

Has anyone got any Nuclear plant builds to show me over the water i need to get an idea for mine if I am going to place mine over water

Please

[frail sleet]

put enough foundations over the water that water extractors comfortably fit under, but keep your pipe elevation below +50-60m so you only need one pump per pipe

that greatly cuts down on the pipe-distance that you have to lay, and makes more more efficient use of the water area (although that part doesn't really matter much)

[rustic quest]

And space things out, I made the mistake to have the reactors side by side and while that part looked greak below it was nightmare fuel

This to have the water extractors comfortably under each reactors and pipes somewhat neat

[versed mesa]

Thanks i still want to look at other people's builds to see how they got there looking like i want mine to look good but I dont think much can be done

[versed mesa]

Right

[rustic quest]

Unfortunately I don't have screenshots of my build

[shrewd palm]

#screenshots message heres mine, its not completely over the water but i was pretty close to the world border so that was about as far as i could go. had to get mods to let me place water extractors that far out too

[versed mesa]

Get them shared boy lol

[rustic quest]

It was my old save I have now started again on 1.1, but anyway it wasn't anything fancy just reactor next to reactor for a total of 24

[shrewd palm]

for my next nuclear build im gonna go down in the bottom left of the map with some sort of dam kind of thing

[rustic quest]

And everything else was under the foundations, the belts for fuel and waste and the pipes

[dim cradle]

I think if I had to do any water based thing now, I would make it underneath a water source instead

no pumping lo

or just out in the ocean on a floating island

[versed mesa]

Woah you got alot going on there and loads of nuclear active was wondering what the green and black area was but I relised they are dront ports

[rustic quest]

mine will be over the ocean, I'm not sure which one yet

[shrewd palm]

yea, just drone ports for uranium and a couple other things

in the future its been expanded to about twice that to get plutonium fuel rods moving around for other drone networks

[versed mesa]

Thats a shame I get it we got to start some where if 1st time not good 2nd will be better

[versed mesa]

Nice

[shrewd palm]

rocky desert, spire coast, swamp/dune desert are really the best places i think

if you want to go big it NEEDS to be over an ocean

for the power plant that i made there should be something like 100 600/min pipes of water

[rustic quest]

Yeah my tip is to make sure that it's reliable simply because it's a PITA to unclog if something goes wrong because you can't simply delete the stuck waste you have to store it or chew through it and it's annoying

[versed mesa]

Anything todo with radioactive I think should be together in same factory due to how strong it is lol

[shrewd palm]

one thing that would probably be good would be to give your waste system the ability to slightly overproduce the amount of waste you're making

[rustic quest]

I was thinking about the swamp but also using more than just that uranium node over there

[shrewd palm]

in case you need to burn through a stockpile or something for some reason

[dim cradle]

Hmm... this silicon high speed connector recipe looks kinda tempting

dunno how it calculates out tho

[rustic quest]

@shrewd palm in my first play I built the fuel manufacturing inside the cave with the uranium node in the grassy fields and the rectors on the other side of that cave above the lake but it was cramped. The reprocessing was also on that side of the cave next to where the nitrogen is

[shrewd palm]

if you do go with that have fun with the spiders

[rustic quest]

oh yeah I know but by then I'd have the rifle and homing ammo so it's hunting not fleeing

[versed mesa]

With all hard drives in game are they enough to unlock all Alternative recipes?

[shrewd palm]

more than enough

i think you'll have a couple dozen extra

[rustic quest]

yeah you end up with leftovers actually

[versed mesa]

Damn

[dim cradle]

The wiki mentioned something about a recycled loop for plastic and rubber, so I might set that up

already got a recycled rubber recipe

[shrewd palm]

i really want to get into those big projects like that and nuclear and aluminum but i actually need power for that

[versed mesa]

They we need more stuff tobe added todo with hard drive use

[shrewd palm]

and rn im sitting at a healthy 10GW

so probably gonna have to get a good sized rocket fuel plant up before anything else

and on top of that i need to finish my base which so far has taken like 2 weeks

[versed mesa]

But you got power alot of it

[rustic quest]

Aluminium is not big at all, it's a huge misconception. You can do a plant using a full pure node with literally 4 refineries and 9 smelters (and 1 water extractors)