satisfactory

[feral portal]

are trains any better? i don't wanna make 2km long conveyors all across the map tbh lol

[shrewd palm]

VERY much so

[fleet star]

Yeah, use belts 💀

[shrewd palm]

hands down the best long distance transport method, drones come in second

[feral portal]

thanks

[fleet star]

I made a 5k belt because trains are scary

[zenith fractal]

vro

trains aren't that scary

a 5k belt sounds awful

[feral portal]

i just completed space elevator 2nd phase tho would it be more viable to use conveyors until i get trains or go with tractors?

[shrewd palm]

if you're keeping in the same sort of area just use belts

[reef basin]

how do you define "efficient"?

[fleet star]

It's pretty easy to make a belt bus with beams because of freeform buildmode

[shrewd palm]

when you inevitably expand just make a highway that you can drive with the tractor on or make a hypertube to get to the new area faster

[charred sandal]

resource in vs resource out

[fleet star]

I just point and click, and I never expend any resources after the initial build cost

[shrewd palm]

and keep all the new stuff over there

[reef basin]

how do you value different resources? is it better to use 1 iron or 1 coal? etc

[charred sandal]

Its a fairly generic question. Im sure anyone willing to answer has a preferred method.

I have every steel recipe unlocked but I still just have my original base steel factory

[reef basin]

well you asked for "most efficient", so I'm asking what do you mean by that so I can answer (and it has a specific answer once you define what the "efficient" means, otherwise it's basically just "what do you like" question)

[charred sandal]

so im trying to decide which to build

[fleet star]

In the sense of using resources, there are alts that simply take more power to utilize fewer resources/output. However recipes with different resources or more expenditures in certain resources that make others more favorable, there are not clear winners and losers

[reef basin]

why do you want to make a bus? it's pretty horrible in SF

[reef basin]

the question shouldn't be just about steel recipes, you should consider the whole production chain from start to end product.

[fleet star]

Using more power to make more utilization of your resources is "a truly good alt", but that comes at its own expense

Certain areas of the map are better suited for some alts/ratios than others

[charred sandal]

Yes, I understand. I just want peoples preferred methods without having to write an essay for a question.

[fleet star]

Just burn the oil ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[fleet star]

I tend to use every alt over the base recipe because the base recipes are balanced in nature. The alts amplify and favor certain resources over others in a way that the main game would not, which can act in your benefit if you choose the right location/combination of alts

So alts are on the forefront of my game, but the choice revolves around: is the factory feasible with increased power usage (if it's a power burner recipe) or is it better than the base recipe given my location

You might even realize you need to change locations to be more efficient

[reef basin]

the problem is that answer depends on tons of things, even if it's just "what do you use"

I'd use any of the recipes, especially since locations are different and offer different things. All recipes have their place

[cunning siren]

Most of the steel alts are about coal conservation so in that light Iron Pipe cuts out a huge chunk by bypassing coal and steel entirely 🤷. It does use more iron but, I mean... who needs more iron? There are a lot of alts that use steel pipe too so steel production can become sort of a meme after a certain point in the game as steel beams are not used for virtually anything after Mk.4 belts are a thing with Encased Industrial Pipe + Iron Pipe. I mean, if you need rods there is Steel Rod 🤷 not much besides that IMO

[fleet star]

One thing in specific that I guess I would say because it is echoed by almost all of the community is that you should probably avoid screws in your factory if possible. The throughput and transportation will always be a problem and require a great amount of belts and/or a great amount of machines to handle

Other than that, just keep in mind your local resources and your power and the answer should be clear most times

[azure reef]

anybody recommend alt recipes for heavy modular frames?

[sturdy mural]

i think i just missed a secret animation becasue i was goofing around

[fleet star]

Heavy encased frame

[zenith fractal]

the concrete one

[hard ivy]

encased

[sturdy mural]

flexible /j

[cunning siren]

"Hey man, want some alt? I got the good stuff yo."

[fleet star]

Very easy to set up and has way better resource utilization of the more "expensive" resources you'll likely want to preserve. Also screws are pesky

[azure reef]

do you guys reckon i should automate aluminium before heavy frames

[fleet star]

I used encased frame in my last file and I never even automated it. Just took a couple stacks of each ingredient in left them in chests feeding to 2 slooped manufacturers

[fleet star]

I've done this‼️

[azure reef]

also why is it better, just less iron input needed?

[fleet star]

Less modular frame, also really easy to build because the resources involved are minimal compared to the other recipes and the ratios are cleaner

[hard ivy]

it's half the price and effort of default

[azure reef]

might just make 3/min and sloop

[feral geyser]

Say goodbye to all your limestone

[zenith fractal]

you should automate aluminium just for the conveyor belts

then work on HMF

[fleet star]

Does limestone ever really get over utilized though fr

[zenith fractal]

conveyors always help

[azure reef]

might actually do this too

[cunning siren]

Removes screws as a requirement is the big reason, some folk hate screws 🤷

[fleet star]

Get rubber concrete and profit 📈

I beat the game with no automated screws past coal phase out of spite for screws

[azure reef]

dont really need to tbf, i could use mk3 belts and still make the hmf's

[zenith fractal]

I mean if you want to go for HMF then do it. it's just imo mk5s are well, a better conveyor belt.

[fleet star]

Yeah but with the mk4 you could get more iron, so more mod frame, so more steel, so more limestone, etc

[reef basin]

same conversation as the one before - depends a lot on tons of things, best is to look up options yourself, especially combinations with other recipes

[azure reef]

yeah i think i'll do hmf's then i can worry about aluminum

[fleet star]

I like when alts are more beneficial for the "main" (first) resource used, but worse for every other input 👹

[azure reef]

actually im kinda tight for power right now i might need to do nuclear fuel

[hard ivy]

doesn't encased pipe cost less limestone than default EIB?

[fleet star]

You can't without aluminum‼️‼️‼️

[azure reef]

yeah i mean after aluminum

[zenith fractal]

you need aluminium for nuclear

ah

[azure reef]

i can just make augmenters for now

[shrewd palm]

it might be prudent to set up a quick and dirty rocket fuel plant

[zenith fractal]

also nuclear gives the most power at the cost of complicated production lines

so be prepared for that

[shrewd palm]

its not that bad honestly

probably gonna be the most complicated thing you'll have done up until phase 5 tho

[fleet star]

Nuclear is scary 😞

[zenith fractal]

it could be worse, but still. a bit of a pain.

[azure reef]

wait do the circuit boosts from the augmenters boost other circuit boosts

[fleet star]

Also it takes a lot of combat to get nuclear because of the evil creature features. Featuring, the creature

[zenith fractal]

they don't multiply with eachother

[azure reef]

ah right

[zenith fractal]

I don't think

[elfin cradle]

#screenshots message
what is this location for??

no items / collectibles / nodes / wells

it just.... exists....

[zenith fractal]

I think it's flavour land

[fleet star]

I never did nuclear because the lag of storing waste before you get plutonium is scary, but also radiation is annoying and nuclear power costs so many valuable resources to get

[zenith fractal]

with no real thing to do there other than be factory floor

[elfin cradle]

damm seems like a waste tbh

they could've done the funny and placed one of the uranium impure nodes there

[mortal ginkgo]

it was actually going to be removed, devs just left it there with a purple slug because people liked the place so much, its a neat thing

[fleet star]

Needs a Walmart and 10mi² of parking lots installed pronto

[reef basin]

lag is minimal afaik and radiation doesn't reach anywhere if you place the storage somewhere far

and basic nuclear is very cheap

[fleet star]

Potato computer 😔

[elfin cradle]

hmmm can't see a reason to build this far from everything else

[mortal ginkgo]

there is a misunderstanding here. stored items do not cause lag.

[fleet star]

Build something nice-looking but non-functional

[fallow vector]

I feel that, I wonder how far I can get with mine XD

[mortal ginkgo]

my brotherman in all sort of beliefs, there are people who create magical (literally) looking buildings because they can.

Trust me, that place is loved by many

[elfin cradle]

fair enough

i mean yeah, i could see nuking everything, paving and building things on it

[shy mulch]

Considering moving my space elevator to that area in one of my saves, just cos it's a cool visual place

[elfin cradle]

nuclear could go hard

[shy mulch]

One of the big YouTubers did a nuclear build there. Can't remember which one, but I'm sure you'll find it if you search

[elfin cradle]

i was considering nuking the daylights out of swamp and going nuclear power there

[shy mulch]

I did nuclear over the water to the east of the swamp

[zenith fractal]

the swamp is where the devs dumped all the cute cats. why nuke it?

[tame kite]

Hello there,
just finished my first playthrough.

I really liked the game, but few parts were a bit annoying 🙂

1. Why the train is so slow? After I finally built the rails, put the train, setup schedule etc. I though I will use it for fast travel. But its almost same speed as zipline.
2. No priority splitter? There is priority merger already, why the hell devs dont also create priority splitter?
3. Why I cannot reduce amount of slots that are being used in Storage? If its "storage at the end of produuction line" its fine, I can put there some other items as blockers. But if it behaves as buffer and then it continues to sending items next, I dont want to fill it (especially for some expensive late-game items)

[elfin cradle]

too much cuteness, must balance out

[zenith fractal]

I see

[rustic quest]

Go with solid steel if you have it

[flat rain]

we need a harddrive research queue since we can now store the finished research for later

[rustic quest]

@charred sandal and you'll soon learn you won't get any straight answer from greeny so don't even bother

[zenith fractal]

the train isn't meant for speed, the drones do that. the trains however are meant for transporting A LOT of resources due to the cars high capacity and you can always attach more cars.

[charred sandal]

Yeah i blocked him. dudes not here to help anyone, just wants to sound smart

[shy mulch]

1. Trains are not intended for personal travel, that's just a side effect. They are for logistics and moving things
2. What is the use case here that you can't do with existing things?
3. Again, what's the use case here? Seems like a non-issue

[abstract heron]

i always say play the game u want to play

[zenith fractal]

trains are long distance resource haulers

also isn't the smart splitter basically the equal to the priority merger?

[rustic quest]

I just took care of steel stuff myself...at the opposite side of the map from where my hub is. Dying wasn't an option lol

[alpine anchor]

how to i automate sam flucatotors for the depots?

[charred sandal]

You go to the far east with sulfur and coal pure side by side?

[rustic quest]

You need to unlock the manufacturer first which is late game stuff, until then they are only manual

[tame kite]

For transportation the trains are amazing, it can quite easily transfer huge amount of anything. But why not having it also as quick transportation option? At least some research or Phase 4 or Phase 5 projects could have some improvements for train speed

[shrewd palm]

steal pipes, wire, and reanimated sam all in a manufacturuer

[peak wasp]

hello!

i reach the aluminium, now .... how i can consume the output of water?

[shy mulch]

Same way you automate anything. Build a machine and send the inputs into it

[zenith fractal]

you get sam, use a constructor to make reanimated sam. then use a manufacturer make sam fluctuators

[charred sandal]

I was conisdering that, but Im just gonna train a pure coal node to a pure sulfur node, make it all into compact, and then train it to the double pure iron

[shrewd palm]

either send it to more refineries to get more aluminum, or turn it into wet concrete and sink it

[alpine anchor]

ohh i need a manufacturer, ty guys

[shrewd palm]

it would be much better to just get more aluminum, although with the default recipes i think that might be a little tricky

[peak wasp]

thanks for tips ^^

[zenith fractal]

I mean I guess, I always felt the drones were meant for more personal transport or supplying small factories due to their speed and low carry capacity

[shy mulch]

Drones are not for personal transport either

[fleet star]

They are good for low-quantity items like computers or high stacking items like copper wire or quick wire

[shrewd palm]

although we shouldnt discourage people from trying

[shy mulch]

If anyone can manage to stay on one they are doing very well 😂

[fleet star]

Just hypertube cannon around. Imo that's the most fun way to travel anyway

[shy mulch]

They are the fastest for sure. I've got a ton of portals and still use my cannons most of the time

[zenith fractal]

they aren't? so are the drones just small fast things for supplying small factories?

[shy mulch]

Mostly because I've got so many portals I can't remember where most of them go 😂

[cunning siren]

So If I send phase 4 parts with the Space Elevator and then delete it before it sends... GG ADA, suck on that! 😆

[shrewd palm]

letting humanity die just to spite ada 🥀 💔

[shy mulch]

They are very good for low volume high distance goodl transport

[zenith fractal]

I see

interesting

[tame kite]

1. Trains are not intended for personal travel, that's just a side effect. They are for logistics and moving things - well in factorio they are quite fast and can be used for both :). But thats the point - the zipline is quite fast and its nice, but beside that there is really no quick transportation option.
2. What is the use case here that you can't do with existing things? - sending some items to Awesome SINK, but only after the production line is 100% fulfilled. In this regard I needed it for Plastic - as its production was tight with fuel production, if the plastics completely filled all the storages, the Fuel would stop and Fuel Power Generators will be soon without the fuel.
3. Again, what's the use case here? Seems like a non-issue - for things like supercomputers or similar I want to fill only few slots (i.e. 4) as buffer and as some takeaway place if I need it directly. It can consume too much resources to fill it completely, taking the resources from other part of my factory where I actually need it more.

[shrewd palm]

they're good for transporting up to about 600 items/min i think

[hard ivy]

more like up to 3-4 stacks per drone

[shrewd palm]

more than that from a decent distance and you have to build like 3 drone ports for the one item

[charred sandal]

You think zipline is the fastest transportation method?

[zenith fractal]

for number 2 you need the smart splitteer

the smart splitter has a overflow is split function

[tame kite]

"also isn't the smart splitter basically the equal to the priority merger?"
Nah, you cannot set which direction has priority. Only which item goes in which direction.

[shrewd palm]

with a smart splitter and priority merger you can sort of jank together a priority splitter

[rustic quest]

The hyper cannon is the fastest, you can literally break the game if you overdo it lol

[charred sandal]

Yeah i was questioning someone elses statement l;ol

[peak wasp]

LGIO found out what God looked like. . .

[hard ivy]

smart splitter also has a priority option. you only have 2 though: low and high (i.e. any and overflow)

[shy mulch]

1. This is not factorio
2. You can do that with a smart splitter, send overflow to sink
3. Smart splitters will do this too, send main output to the machines that use them, and overflow to storage

[rustic quest]

Oh that's new

[shy mulch]

It's not new?

[hard ivy]

... it's as old as smart splitters

[shrewd palm]

this explains how it took me like half a day to try and cram the 2 normal uranium nodes into drones i guess

[peak wasp]

this game has a solution for any technical issue, give or take the precision of said solution.

[rustic quest]

Ah... I don't remember any priority option 🤔

[peak wasp]

if i remember correctly it isn't called that, just the functionality acts as such.

[shy mulch]

Overflow is basically the main point of smart splitters

[shrewd palm]

they're just saying how the "any" and "overflow" outputs are more or less a priority system

[rustic quest]

Yeah drones are not good for bulk transfers, you could use them later for the fuel rods for example

[zenith fractal]

overflow has saved me when oil hits me with byproducts

love the smart splitters

[shy mulch]

They are exactly a priority system, not more or less

[rustic quest]

Ah I see that's what threw me off thanks

[peak wasp]

smart splitters are especially good for those who don't want to make every number down to the inch.

[shrewd palm]

ive been planning out my next nuclear plant for this save and i might do that for the sake of performance

[peak wasp]

outside of the use-case for overflow, their usages are niche but still useful in the necessary situations.

[shrewd palm]

but having a biome spanning city that produces nuclear power would be really cool too i think

[reef basin]

I literally just asked question to give you more "correct" answer. It's very common practice in here, imagine getting asked "what car would you recommend?", you'd need more info as well

[tame kite]

"The hyper cannon is the fastest, you can literally break the game if you overdo it lol"
Hmm, did not know this hack. When I just built hypertubes around my factory, it did not seem (significantly) faster than zipline or train, so I did not use it for lontime travel.

[cunning siren]

Completed phase 4 with only 13 GW 😆

[shy mulch]

Yeah absolutely. I use them a lot on train station outputs. So I can have multiple trains feeding the same station and the outputs are sent in an appropriate direction

[zenith fractal]

the hyper tube cannon is where you stack hyper tube entrances to launch yourself, usually accross the map.

[peak wasp]

hypertubes by default are not fast, however modified into cannons they can put you to speeds that'll straight up crash your game.

[reef basin]

1. trains are fine for personal transport, but usually we don't need to move around map much (due to dimensional depots)
2. there's literally a smart splitter
3. usually storage is built at the end of production line, so it doesn't matter if it keeps filling with items, you sink excess anyway

[peak wasp]

this. sushi lines take good advantage of the default modifiers that they present, which i havent used often; but otherwise would have struggled without.

[rustic quest]

How fast they go depends on how many you stack but also from the angle of the last piece of tube, you can screw the cannon quite a bit if the angle is wrong.
With a dozen or so you can easily go across the map, if you add more you can easily go out of bounds and if you add even more you can go too fast for the game to handle

[peak wasp]

pre-engine change performance changes especially in U5 made this especially presentable, lol.

you'd go so fast the game literally could not render.

[rustic quest]

In this second playthrough I'm starting to miss the jetpack + cannon, you could literally fly everywhere since it's easy to change course pulsing the jetpack (it's basically as if you were a rocket with RCS thrusters)

[tame kite]

Oh damn me, I was looking for something similar (in terms of UI) as is priority in Priority Merger and I completely missed the "Overflow" option 😄 , thanks guys, if I do the second playthough I will use it

[peak wasp]

my first experience with cannons turned me into a FOX-3

[wicked nacelle]

Especially if you make a circular accelerator.

[rustic quest]

From particle accelerator to pioneer accelerator

[peak wasp]

pioneer blender*

[wicked nacelle]

It would be neat if the switch part they introduced had a velocity setting on it where it would switch for you

[tame kite]

"1) trains are fine for personal transport, but usually we don't need to move around map much (due to dimensional depots)"
Dimensional Depots come so late in a game, its basically over (if you play just to finish Phase 5 and thats it

[zenith fractal]

the overflow will save you so much time as it did me.

[hard ivy]

? You can have them in tier 1
3 if you don't scavenge crash sites for steel

[reef basin]

dimensional depots are like T3 afaik?

[rustic quest]

Not really you can start unlocking them basically from the get go, just need to find SAM and of course the spheres. This second playthorugh I focused hard on unlocking it ASAP and it was rather easy I have to say

[wicked nacelle]

You need computers but you can find those

[zenith fractal]

to automate sam fluctorators you need tier 5 which is about T3 I think

[hard ivy]

You don't need to automate them to make them

[wicked nacelle]

But you don’t need to automate to make them incredibly useful

[reef basin]

can handcraft them

[rustic quest]

No it's already in tier 1, as soon as you get the mam

[zenith fractal]

true

[reef basin]

you need steel pipes to unlock/craft fluctuators, which are T3

[fleet star]

Better to find them laying around

[wicked nacelle]

You can find any items you need

[tame kite]

"? You can have them in tier 1"
How? I had them in Phase 5 milestone

[rustic quest]

yes but you find a lot of steel pipes from crash sites so it's perfectly doable very early

[fleet star]

Every part you can get from ship crashes

[shrewd palm]

you need manufacturers if you dont want to handcraft

[hard ivy]

Explore the map. Find mercer Spheres, SAM and steel pipes and you can have them very early

[wicked nacelle]

Don’t you need computers to get it to show up in your inventory?

[rustic quest]

Also crash sites

[charred sandal]

Me and my gf unlocked hoverpacks like 4 days ago.

She walks by me building, struggling with a jetpack, and asks why I havnt made a hoverpack yet

Good question

[wicked nacelle]

For sure. Just adding to the list

[cunning siren]

Lizard Doggo can gift 18 steel pipe sometimes too

[wicked nacelle]

And then you gift him a stack of plutonium waste and wish him well on his travels

[fleet star]

Spoiler about locations: ||The area directly near the same/quartz cave in the rocky desert has pipes in it, some crashes around northern forest have computers||

[rustic quest]

You also can get iron pipe early which is nice

[wicked nacelle]

Never thought about that benefit of the recipe

[reef basin]

1252 pipes

• 100 for unlocking fluctuators (which are then 3 pipes per)
• 33 for 11 fluctuators to unlock DD
• then 30 for each DD

allows for 37 DDs before need of automation

it's a question whether that means "having DDs available" to you or not (mind you, this means you have to get ALL the pipes in the world)

[hard ivy]

You can't get it before getting default steel pipe anyway

[wicked nacelle]

Oh

[hard ivy]

Doggos

[sturdy mural]

guys anyone knows why the hell do resources not want to go into a freight platform??

[rustic quest]

Yes but enables you to have steel pipes before having to deal with steel proper that's what I meant by "early"

[zenith fractal]

are you putting them into the input or output?

[sturdy mural]

into the input??

it would not let me put it into output

[zenith fractal]

frieght platforms can unload and load

[tame kite]

Oh sorry, I am reading one part and thinking about other. Dimensional Depots are useful, yes 🙂 and its quite early in the game. But it does not solve the part that I have to travel from time to time to my "Crude Oil" area to build some new Oil products.

[reef basin]

for that trains are fine imo

[sturdy mural]

i have it set to Load
and i am shoving them into the input

[zenith fractal]

send a picture?

[sturdy mural]

i was confused because you cannot connect an "inserting" belt into an output

[tame kite]

well they are fine, but if they have like double or triple the speed I would be more happy 😄

[merry perch]

just use more train cars then

[reef basin]

well fair, but the transportation methods kinda have to be balanced 🙂

[zenith fractal]

try the lower part I guess? not sure what's wrong if that doesn't work@sturdy mural

[tame kite]

For cargo transportation the speed of train does not really matter. But for my personal travelling between the locations it does 🙂

[sturdy mural]

tried lower, tried upper

[zenith fractal]

idk what's wrong, does it have power? maybe there's a faulty power line

other than that I hhave no clue

[rustic quest]

For a second playthorugh with hindsight is very doable (I just did it basically), for a first playthrough if someone knows about it and wants it ASAP it's still just a matter of exploring which again it's doable.
IMO it's completely worth the effort to get it ASAP with the help of crash sites even just the first speed/stack tier is still nice enough to have (especially from inventory)

[sturdy mural]

OH WAIT THEY NEED POWER?

[zenith fractal]

yes?

[dire harness]

Two loops - sets of refineries one runs on fresh water one runs on the waste water.

[zenith fractal]

did you just, oh well. we know the problem

[sturdy mural]

i had no idea they need power to load into the storage itself

[zenith fractal]

plug it in and see what happens

[sturdy mural]

and i replaced the station so no wonder

[reef basin]

I'd say that getting autopower would be a bigger priority than depots, since before autopower you're probably in a single place or very close to it anyway. depots kinda make sense when you start expanding further, which is (or should be) around T3. But yeah fair, doable even before

[rustic quest]

By autopower do you mean coal?

[feral portal]

would a 30x30 base be enough for pre oil stuff?

[zenith fractal]

guess so, if you need more you can always expand. if you over produce the sink lovingly looks at you.

[sturdy mural]

this ^

[sturdy mural]

yeah it worked

420 hours in the game and 290 on the save.

[zenith fractal]

it happens sometimes

we've all been there

[spark sky]

Interesting, so a power outlet can go on the bottom or edge of a foundation, but not on top of one. It's a good thing I've come up with a solution for feeding power through foundations.

[cunning siren]

Use a beam, makes it so you can use the double outlets vertically 😆

[sturdy mural]

just like how i did not automate quartz up until 280h

[rustic quest]

@reef basin anyway the game changed quite a bit in the early phase, being able to also dismantle the crash sites beside looting them means you get a lot of basic materials from the very beginning so much so that you can quite easily establish yourself way before powering a single machine with minimal manual grind.
It's a very different "feeling", in this second play for example I was able to basically not have anything on the ground (besides the hub) and started building and automating stuff directly on foundations with like very little manual crafting and just exploring a lot

[reef basin]

yeah that

[spark sky]

Yes, and I had to fiddle with the height to get the double ones centered vertically, but I got it. Unfortunately, if you use a 1-high beam, it's very difficult to delete it. I found out that replacing the beam with a beam connector works even better, as you can easily delete the connector and leave the double outlet intact.

[cunning siren]

Yea connector also makes it harder to use the outlet though 🤷

Concrete beams are what I've been using cuz cheap and does not block line of sight for connections

[spark sky]

Nope, as the outlet sticks out the same ammount on the top and bottom, remember, I centered it vertically.

[rustic quest]

Personally I think dd is a much higher priority because it's just that good, having to stay a little bit on biomass burners it's not that bad because you can get a lot of biomass from the animals (I know many prefer to use them for points but in reality you can do both and still get stupid amount of fuel)

[cunning siren]

Yes, that is true it can stick out AND it also blocks line of sight if you are in-between the beam connector and the outlet 🤷

[spark sky]

I'll show you a screenshot of them side-by-side...

[vale quail]

It makes me wonder about #announcements like I wonder if we will get mk 3 pipes and mk 2 pumps because I feel like that would solve the fluid problems in 1.2 update

[rustic quest]

I don't expect higher tier pipes but I hope they fix what we got now especially the mk2 when used at max capacity

It's the single worst thing in the game

[reef basin]

yeah, as with anything (e.g. alt recipes, starting location, ...), it's a personal choice 🙂 in the end it's up to OP to decide what they want to do, I was simply pointing out that DDs are easily built around T3, though yeah, definitely can be built before

[fleet star]

1.2 seems underwhelming tbh, make smth useful and creative, not fluid tankers

[rustic quest]

Of course but again I think DD is like an S tier feature and it's the one thing I would easily recommend anyone to "rush" it's really really worth it

[rustic quest]

UNDERWHELMING??? They mentioned pipe stuff, it's like a small miracle

it could be just that and it would be PERFECT

[zenith fractal]

the fluid tankers are a red herring. they will fix all the pipes, they are just trolling us with the tankers.

imo

I am not crazy

[fleet star]

Pipes are much less of a problem than people make it, all you need is a bit of physics and extra headlift on your side

What difference would it make if they changed the fluid mechanics

[rustic quest]

If anything they are much more of a problem that some make it out to be

[zenith fractal]

pipes are just so wonky, sometimes I use the same system in 2 places and yet have different results

pipes aren't very consistent and buggy in a few ways

[rustic quest]

To me it's the biggest...stain...in the game

[zenith fractal]

one could say

a coffee stain

[fleet star]

I've just always seen it as a non-issue I guess, I just always make a water-tower physics pipeline with extra fluid in store, and it never fails. I even made a pipeline system with 1200 water/min by having a connected pipeline with 2 mk2s feeding from either side and moving water inwards

[shrewd palm]

if you build them wrong they are incredibly weird

if you take precautions there arent really any probloems

[rustic quest]

I had my fair share of grief even when building them "right", it's what killed the fun for the game for me the first time I played (more than a year ago now).
I started a second playthrough with the promise to myself to avoid using mk2 pipes at max capacity like the plague

[fleet star]

Fluid physics are complicated but the building principles are very simple to implement. The input fluid pipe must go higher than the splitter/distribution pipeline, and you can even do multi-tiered distribution like exact splitters with ease by building top-down

[reef basin]

nobody said it's just fluid trucks

[fleet star]

I guess. We'll have to see 👀

[new alts, new alts, new alts 🤞]

Underwater bases‼️‼️‼️

[zenith fractal]

coffee stain likes to troll, take every trailer lightly.

[fleet star]

TOWER DEFENSE

[zenith fractal]

they will add a lot more than they reveal

[fleet star]

SPACE UPDATE

[zenith fractal]

and even be misleading in some things

[hard ivy]

would be great. especially for endgame parts. all the endgame alt budget seems to have gone do diamonds

[winged bronze]

I don’t know about you guys but I’m so happy about the fluid trucks. I’m so tired of having pipe issues. I’m going to use the crap out of them lol

[shrewd palm]

99% of pipe issues would not be helped with the fluid trucks ngl

[zenith fractal]

if fluid trucks are anything like fluid trains, they are just gonna be a fun side project.

[shrewd palm]

yeah

[zenith fractal]

then forgotten

[shrewd palm]

ngl i dont really think i even see a reason to use them over trains

[fleet star]

Yooooo what if there were low-altitude speeder bikes or hover cars

Power with batteries or nuclear rods

Or any fuel, but more expensive fuels = faster speeds

[plucky flower]

In 24hr of the mutiplayer server we have surpassed my 90hr playtrough lol

We have been grinding

[spark sky]

Here is the comparison with the normal beams and my blueprints: #screenshots message

[frail sleet]

that's the milestone for "if you don't have depots already you did something terribly wrong, so here, have em for free"

They do it with quartz, caterium etc too.

You should absolutely get blade runners and quickwire in P2 at the latest, preferably P1, and dimensional depots everywhere at the start of P3 (which is like 20% of the way into the game)

[zenith fractal]

I don't think sandbox games like satisfactory can ever translate well into shows or movies

[fleet star]

But there's so much untaped lore!

[spark sky]

Untaped or untapped?

[zenith fractal]

the lore in satisfactory is a bit, unbaked. the mercer sphere logs stop suddenly. also what would the story even be about?

[spark sky]

Someone did a video on why Earth no longer exists, or at least is no longer habitable. Kittens and puppies no longer exist, you are just a clone created by an AI that is just using you to perpetuate and propagate copies of itself. I guess that means that all that's left of Ficsit Corporation is the cloning facility and the AI.

[charred sandal]

There a way to sink extra fuel? ...

Like, without a ton of plastic

[zenith fractal]

package them or use them

[tame kite]

Just burn it 🙂. Fuel Powered Generators are going nonstop, even when you are not using the electricity. + you will get some extra energy, which is always nice.

[zenith fractal]

it's either the sink or the gennie

[charred sandal]

There a way to only send overflow into a generator? Similar to a smart splitter

[zenith fractal]

no

I don't think so anyway

[digital holly]

In the rocky desert, are all the Raw Quartz sources in that same Cave?

[charred sandal]

Think I can figure it out, thx for the answers

[zenith fractal]

if you mean if the resource nodes move then no

resource nodes stay in the same place

[plucky flower]

Some outside on the west side too

[digital holly]

I started a new game and am now in Need of the Raw Quartz nodes again, i found 3 in a cave,

[zenith fractal]

or if you mean you need the locations of resource nodes then scan for them,that's your best bet.

[plucky flower]

Yeah best option is to scan your way

or use satisfactory map

[zenith fractal]

get quartz, research it in the MAM. you will then be able to scan for the quartz

[spark sky]

Are those the three next to a SAM node?

[digital holly]

I didn't find the SAM node yet

[lament niche]

#screenshots message

[plucky flower]

Just use the satisfactory map or scan

[plucky flower]

Nothing to see really

[spark sky]

Way to the north along the water there is a cave with stingers in that has quartz nodes and a SAM node.

[lament niche]

look again

[plucky flower]

No

There is nothing really to see except from a hoverpack

[lament niche]

so, trolling. got it

[plucky flower]

No. Look at your picture and tell me what you see

[frail sleet]

@zenith fractal You can.

Put a powered pump BEFORE a junction, and to the junction connect 1 pipe to feed regular stuff and 1 more overflow pipe. The overflow pipe needs to climb vertically, 20m is safe.

This configuration causes sloshing so make sure that the original pipe has at least +20% flowrate headroom, preferably +50%.

[plucky flower]

Looks like your ragebaiting me

[zenith fractal]

really? this is interesting, I shall screenshot it and see if I can put it into future systems.

thanks for the idea

[plucky flower]

If your posting an image with almost nothing on it and someone says about it you cant say trolling

[spark sky]

Is he talking about the bridge? If so, that's a very lousy screen shot of the bridge.

[lament niche]

hey @zenith fractal does #screenshots message look like it was placed by Hannah, or by a player

[zenith fractal]

who's hannah?

[plucky flower]

Yes but nothing else to see. Its like you shot a picture of an wall. Yes theres a wall but still

[lament niche]

the world design/level design dev.

[zenith fractal]

ah

I mean the structures are very much player made, the landscape seems to be natural but shaped in such a way to be pleasing. effectively landscaped

[lament niche]

I did that.

[zenith fractal]

very cool work

I like the aesthetics

wait, how are there those plants in the desert? can you place plants?

[lament niche]

with mods anything is possible

[zenith fractal]

I see

[spark sky]

You did what? You can't place trees and plants or rocks, even in creative mode, so the bridge seems to be the only thing there.

[zenith fractal]

so you made the landscape yourself

very cool

[sturdy mural]

#screenshots message
guys am i doing this right?

[zenith fractal]

I mean, it will certainly will give water

[plucky flower]

yes

[lament niche]

#screenshots message

[plucky flower]

Stop referring to your screenshot

Stop trolling

[lament niche]

it's a different one, dumbass

[plucky flower]

Calm down girl

Be kind and respectful

Rule number 1

[sturdy mural]

brother is the Evil pioneer

[spark sky]

Okay, that must be a mod, I don't have anything like that in vanilla, even in Creative mode, and there is nothing in the Awesome Shop like that.

[lament niche]

#satisfactory message ...

[worldly pelican]

And now it's time to change the topic

for everyone.

[zenith fractal]

the evil pioneer grows trees and cleans the atmosphere. despicable

[spark sky]

Just admit it's a mod and move on to the next topic.

[lament niche]

I literally fucking did.

Go troll somewhere else.

[supple marlin]

Hey guys I recently just got into satisfactory and I reached tier3 and 4 so I can start using coal generators and steel manufacturing and its safe to say I am very overwhelmed, is their a good youtuber who does like playthroughs where he explains or makes things easier to understand just so I can learn

[spark sky]

::throws his hands up in frustration::

[lament niche]

EJ_SA sometimes streams Satisfactory on Twitch. he's fantastic to pick his brains about the game

[supple marlin]

Ah im not really a twitch or livestream person, id rather watch a youtube video so I can rewind missed bits or whatever

[fleet star]

Gaming with Doc!

[shrewd palm]

Imkibitz I think has playthroughs for almost every version of the game

[lament niche]

Twitch has VODs.

[zenith fractal]

I mean totalxclipse is doing a series where he plays and explains goals, that may help you.

guided playthroughh I think he called it?

i am not sure

[shrewd palm]

Although I think he tends to really breeze through the early game stuff and then spend a year on space elevator parts

Kibitz^^

[fleet star]

YT Shorts by gaming with Doc are the best imo for beginners. Never overwhelms you and gives really useful information in a quick amount of time

[supple marlin]

Huh awesome thank you for the many suggestions I'll check them all out thank you

[zenith fractal]

good luck

[rustic quest]

One tip to avoid being overwhelmed is to focus on a single thing at time, for example forget steel for now and just focus on coal power. Perhaps build a single generator to get familiar on how it works.
Generally speaking at this point a coal generator is not that different from other machines it's just that one of the inputs is a liquid so instead of a belt you use a pipe but the principle is the same you need a certain quantity of each.
This page also has diagrams on how to build a complete power plant:
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Coal-Powered_Generator

[supple marlin]

Yeah but still isnt as good as youtubes video playback, also ads are annoying as hell which i dont have to deal with on my "totally legit youtube app"

[supple marlin]

Huh that's helpful cheers I'll keep that in mind

[rustic quest]

If the streamer uploads on youtube it's best to watch there because it helps the creator more compared to the VODs if you care about this aspect

[lament niche]

they dont.

[fleet star]

Youtube is the 🐐

[reef basin]

while it may look good to watch videos and tutorials to learn, I'd personally recommend to not watch anything and rather experiment with the game yourself. The ingame tutorial guides you naturally through the game and usually when you find something to be very very much annoying, it's the game telling you to try something else (and often ADA drops some hints as well)

if you're stuck on a problem and have tried options you can think of, ask here for help, but usually I'd suggest not asking for these kind of "give me tips" questions, because it very often leads to people blindly following something in a game that's a lot about experimentation and alternate options

[supple marlin]

Also when should I start building all my stuff on platforms? At the moment I just have all my smelters constructors assemblers ect just running across the ground and it isnt very neat or tidy when I need to change things haha

[rustic quest]

Videos can also spoil you of stuff

[reef basin]

(obviously feel free to ignore the above if you're set on looking up tutorials and "cloning" someone else's gameplay)

[zenith fractal]

always put everything on proper foundations

the clean factory set up is not only useful and easier but looks nicer

[fleet star]

Do it whenever you feel the need to stack factory floors or have extra concrete. It's not a necessity, and don't feel pressed to conserve ground-floor area anyway because you will almost definitely delete and restart your factory at one, if not multiple points in the game

[rustic quest]

I'd say as soon as you can and one of the first things you can build and automate on foundations is the iron plates that you need for the foundations themselves alongside with concrete and then iron pipes which are also a basic need

[supple marlin]

It's not that I want to just mindlessly copy someone's else's work but my way of learning how things work is mainly by seeing someone else do it, my autism makes it hard for me to look at things and figure it out even if im actively building it out as im going, I learn from somebody actually explaining how stuff works if you get what I mean

[supple marlin]

I wasn't sure if it would be wasted doing it to early lol cheers

[lament niche]

like you should have everything on proper foundations

[reef basin]

well yeah that's what I mean - things can very often be done in so many different ways and by looking up how someone did it, you inherently end up doing it the same/similar way, without considering other options.

but again, if you feel like it's best for you, go for it. I'm just giving a tip I give to everyone who asks similar question. And afaik it's pretty common tip to give from other people as well

[supple marlin]

I have 2 iron plate constructors along with 2 iron pipe constructors a wire and cable constructors automated screws and automated reinforced iron plates, basically any resource that I currently have I have automatically infinitely produced

[reef basin]

the beauty of the game is that there's practically no way to "waste" something. Anything can be returned for full value, and things are infinite with very few exceptions (and for those exceptions there's more than enough for anything you can reasonably think of)

[rustic quest]

Nice so you're set to start using foundations

If you're worried about the looks you'll gain options soon enough to change colors etc

[supple marlin]

Yeah i had these setup since basically the beginning of the game, I figured out within an hour or so how to automate them (very simple lol) and figured i needed alot so I did it, i have 2 storage boxes filled with iron plates and pipes lol

[rustic quest]

One thing I learned watching someone else build was how to make power grids neat, seems obvious in hindsight but yeah it was very useful to see that way of laying out power poles etc

[supple marlin]

Yeah i guess that's still something im getting use to in this game, my main problem is have is if I aint making progress i feel like I wasted my time, so if I do something and I have to delete it all because I messed up I get mad at myself for wasting my own time and I've always been like this and its something im trying to change but its hard haha

[reef basin]

well, one tip I'd give you is to not delete things 🙂 even a bad factory is still better than no factory 🙂

[rustic quest]

Well I would say at least the initial stuff built on the ground might be worth deleting, everything else not really necessary

[reef basin]

if you delete and rebuild, you spend more time than if you just built new one, and you have less than you'd have if you kept the old factory as well 😛

[supple marlin]

Yeah, well I brought the game for my dad so we can play together so im gonna have to restart to play with him so I can just use all these tips you guys have given me for a fresh start

[shrewd palm]

As soon as you have concrete foundations unlocked

You should NEVER not be building on foundations and concrete is the cheapest

[supple marlin]

What's the best sorta size to make my foundation layout? Like 50x50 ect

[shrewd palm]

Start with what looks like a good sized base and then expand outwards

I usually just end up paving over good chunks of biomes and then that’s usually enough

[rustic quest]

Oh that entirely depends on what you need, if you want just something as a starting point make a square a bit larget than the lenght of the hub and go from there as you expand

[supple marlin]

Alright 1 last question

If im building up on foundations what's best to do, should I have like iron for example come up to the foundation and then get smelted and processed or should I have a smelter next to the miner so that once it reaches up to the foundations its all in ingots ready to be processed? Or does it not really matter

[shrewd palm]

It doesn’t really matter but you can also put miners on foundation s so long as they’re not more than about 2m above the node

[placid stirrup]

Generally folks will have a line or group of the same process they can manifold into before going to the next step

[zenith fractal]

what do you think is nicer? imo it's easier to just work horizontally and occasionally making a new floor vertically

[rustic quest]

@supple marlin it's worth mentioning now that you are starting with foundations that there's a thing in the game called world grid, if you press CTRL as you have the hologram of a foundation (so before you click to build it) you see it will snap. This makes it so everywhere you build things will be aligned.
I'm saying this not because you must use it but because if you care about such things it's better to know from the start than later after you have a lot of foundations placed (guess how I know....)

[supple marlin]

Oh right that's good to know I'll keep that in mind cheers

[shrewd palm]

It’s a nice thing to do because aligning everything in the same direction can make things in the future a little cleaner

[supple marlin]

Did not know that, that's useful

[reef basin]

as big as needed by the factory

[rustic quest]

It doesn't really matter, personally I also put the miners on foundations. One tip though: don't be afraid of spacing things out. Like it doesn't have to be all cramped next to the miner

[fleet star]

Yeah also the world grid makes everything perfectly aligned to the cardinal directions, which is good because angular just feels weird but also because factories built far apart will be equally directional at all times if you use world grid

[supple marlin]

Yeah that does seem very handy and good to know

[rustic quest]

Others prefer the miner directly on the node for the looks, do as you please really

[supple marlin]

Alright cheers

[shy mulch]

Just eyeball it. If it turns out to not be big enough, make it bigger

Also, it's etc, not ect. Pet hate of mine 😝

[supple marlin]

My bad didnt even realize I misspelled that haha

[random berry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGw8ngs--7o

on this video, on 2:40 it seems like there is a triangluar shaped foundation. How is it done? I can't find anything in the game to be able to build that

what kind of foundation is that on the ground under the railroad track? on this video at 2:40

[rustic quest]

Could be inverted corner ramp, you find these extra foundations in the shop

[random berry]

structured metal fram is it not?

Can you do triangles in the game at all without turning the foundation?

[shy mulch]

misspelling triggers me and I find it very hard to resist the compulsion to correct people, not my fault

[tacit barn]

would you recommend playing this game i am thinking about buying it

[shy mulch]

if you like this kind of game, then yes

[lament niche]

to be fair, didn't me electrifying lego track instead of buying track that was already electrified mildly annoy you at one point? Or am I thinking of someone else

[shy mulch]

that doesn't ring a bell, must have been someone else

[lament niche]

fair

[spark mason]

should i just start over if i havent played my save after some months

[lament niche]

Only if you want to

[weary stream]

is there a way to vertically nudge

[latent meadow]

pageup pagedown

[weary stream]

wait really

[latent meadow]

yea

[weary stream]

sweet

[latent meadow]

there are some things though you cant nudge if it says cant nudge

i never totaly got why they did that to some items

but i sure it a game thing to stop certin things form crashing a game

or jst limiation i guess

tbh it not a big deal but i would like to nudge water extractors

[leaden turret]

you can snap water extractors to foundations, so if you can nudge foundations underwater, then by the transitive properties of snapping you can nudge water extractors

[rustic quest]

I added a mod just for that, well mostly to align miners (Infinite Nudge). Not having the wonky belt stubs out of miners is sooo nice

[lament niche]

let me introduce you to a mod called infinite nudge

[latent meadow]

i will check that out

ty so much

[lament niche]

if you wanna see something else mods can do...
#screenshots message I placed these rocks, arches, cliffs, and trees.

[latent meadow]

nice

[rustic quest]

One tip for more granularity I would reduce the default "Tiny Nudge Amount" in the mod settings from 20 to like 10. With the default I found I still couldn't properly align some miners, it missed the spot. With 10 I haven't had issues

[latent meadow]

will do ty

[rose saffron]

@minor ocean ya know it’s a bit ironic that you react to my screenshot with when none of them relate to it, did you check the pins?

[rustic quest]

Not being able to nudge miners (and similar) is one thing they really missed on for 1.1. Since they expanded nudging they got so close but then left out that final touch

[latent meadow]

yea true

but 1.2 is gonna bring big changes i looking so foward too

[versed mesa]

Hi all

[latent meadow]

i love the devs of this game feels like they really do listen

[rustic quest]

And I still think you should be able to just snap miners to the grid with CTRL when placed on foundations, and again the miner not the node (or maybe they should align by default when on foundations like any other machine)

[charred sandal]

Im not sure I understand what sloshing/head room means

[versed mesa]

I seek some deep advice please with the game just need that helping boost please

[lament niche]

have you ever shaken a water bottle? the water inside sloshes around.

And head lift is a fancy term for the amount of force/pressure water has to overcome the force of gravity, but measured in distance. e.g. a headlift of 50 meters means the water can go up 50 meters straight up vertically before it'll stop and you need another pump to force it to continue going

[cunning siren]

Got a pre 1.0 water extractor blueprint from a infinite nudge mod user AND it works without the mod somehow 🤷

[versed mesa]

Ive taken a little few days break the reason for it is because I feel like I came to dead end and unsure where am going with my factories and getting to Nukeclear kind dud not help because I started wondering what should I even build for the Nukeclear Gens and factories for everything else

Any suggestions please on what I maybe can do

[cunning siren]

I'm guessing google drive links are not allowed here 🤔

[versed mesa]

Idk

[rustic quest]

Well focus one one thing at the time. For nuclear the first thing you should do is to unlock the hazmat suit and then make the iodine filters.

Next thing is of course the fuel and that's just following the recipe

[frail sleet]

Individual units of fluid flow back and forth, so a 600/min pipe may only be able to support say 450/min travelling from A to B.

The flow rate rating on pipes is a maximum, not a guarantee of effective flow at that rate.

[cunning siren]

Infinite nudge water extractor blueprint: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zd_Ch9mWgRaOyKRBB0oGUw5SxMxTWgTW

Oh... it does work? 🤔

[rustic quest]

@versed mesa if you do the alt recipe Infused Uranium Cell you can avoid dealing with sulfuric acid (at least for now)

[versed mesa]

Ive already got all that and 4 nukeclear gens built but I am not happy how its looking and not sure where to take things from here and also am going tobe needing much more water for then witch i know that I did and kind if nit a problem for me to sort out

[frail sleet]

I've posted an "easy" plan here (but anything nuclear is still more complex than most other stuff in the game)

#math-and-meta message

Given that most of the difficulty is in the amount of production steps and the number of different types of resources, i don't think it's worth bothering with on a small scale. If you tap a sulfur node for example, you've already got sulfur right there and might as well spend it.

120-240 GW is the lowest i would do

[cunning siren]

Here is a link to that water extractor blueprint that is "nudgeable" #satisfactory message

[versed mesa]

@frail sleet my issue is that ive got high functioning Autism and I think differently and ive also been struggling to think of anything due to my mental health Anxiety which am trying to recover from and taking tablets for it

[rustic quest]

Oh also one trick to get water extractors to align is to put a piece of pipe on a foundation near to where tou want the extractor to be and pressing ctrl will align the output with the pipe. (just a pipe support doesn't seem to work I noticed you need a pipe proper).
(Basically extractor in front of pipe on foundation)

[frail sleet]

You and half of the factory community 😄

don't worry bout it

[cunning siren]

I do it for the "unlimited / faster" drone fuel and the Nuke Nobelisk 😆

[versed mesa]

Really lmfao

@frail sleet I think its just me going through a phase with my head as I normally do i normally take step back and try reset

@unborn gyro where is Satisfactory ghost trains at lol

Ive not heard of ghost wood lol

[queen edge]

I noticed I only have two hand slots in an older world, is it possible to update it to the current patch or am I just being dum

[versed mesa]

I bet lmao

Am going back to watching House Of Guinness been watching this lately i had not been watching anything for abit and just playing games

Who's old you or me lmfao

Am 34 years old

ARE YOU 40 LOL

Not sure what that is but ok lmfao

@unborn gyro are you high or just drunk lmao

Yeah i can tell lol

👆 😂

[frail sleet]

https://youtu.be/D6VQDNIZH7U?t=90

[slender hatch]

Oml just started manufacturing parts, and my god 60 seconds for a single engine.....

[versed mesa]

Lmao

[versed mesa]

Welcome to manufacturing lmao

[slender hatch]

Im not excited

[shrewd palm]

the times are really only that long for space elevator parts

[frail sleet]

I have particle accelerators set to take 10 minutes per item

you technically can set them to take 200 minutes per item at least 😄

[versed mesa]

Make more power to then increase production to creat more a minute

[shrewd palm]

some of the late phase 4 stuff and the phase 5 stuff can take a while tho

[slender hatch]

Like I need to do ALOT befor that step, I have so many resources nodes I need to tap first, luckily I just git trains aswell so im gonna learn them

[stoic spear]

When I make the mega factory should I smelt at the nodes or smelt at the factory

[versed mesa]

Woah lol

[frail sleet]

factory, because good ore processing recipies make more ingots than ore. You transport and distribute the lowest amount of items/min that you can.

[shrewd palm]

how is it a megafactory if you're not doing everything there?

[frail sleet]

trick is you just have 64 of them so they make 6.4 per min. And just afk for 10 mins when they turn on lol

[versed mesa]

Damn

[slender hatch]

I think i'm more so gonna play on the modular kind of factory style

[zenith fractal]

you heard Max, 15 billion more cats in the swamp area.

[versed mesa]

Should I put my nukeclear Gens at swamp ocean instead ?

[frail sleet]

It's not a bad place. For the plan that i made, i put it at the west coast because the required resources are closer. Transporting fuel rods is not difficult, although i prefer to make fuel rods and process waste right next to the generators consuming them rather than shipping rods halfway across map and then shipping waste back halfway across map.

You should really have generators on ocean for ease of feeding water.

[slender hatch]

Wait, you're telling me there's more power.After fuel generators

[versed mesa]

Yeah thats what am thinking of because alot of water is needed for this big suckers and it only need like 1 conveyor belts to the gens to feed them Rods

[shrewd palm]

yes and its so much more fun

[shy mulch]

Maybe even more that you've not discovered yet, depends how far along you are. What are you currently feeding into your fuel gens?

[slender hatch]

Currently only the stuff refineries make as a byproduct

[frail sleet]

there's another 6 fuel types above that

[shy mulch]

Byproducts don't go into fuel gens, do you mean fuel?

[slender hatch]

Yea that

[frail sleet]

HOR > fuel can be a byproduct 😄 (from bad recipies)

[versed mesa]

I think i can add extra 2 or 4 more gens to my turbo fuel factory but need to make factory abit more bigger

[shy mulch]

There's 5 different things you can feed into fuel generators

You'll discover them in time 🙂

[slender hatch]

I'm kind of just really going into satisfactory blind i haven't really watched anything.And i've only really just been playing the game

And i'm super enjoying it

[shy mulch]

That's the best way imo

I avoided discord/wiki/youtube anything at all like that until I'd finished my first play through

[slender hatch]

But I'll tell you one thing, my thirty six coal gen has so much clipping, it's not even funny

[versed mesa]

Thats what I did and I came here for abit of help on stuff am struggling with

[shy mulch]

If you're ok with that, then fine. If you're not, then fix it. That's the thing with this game, do it the way that makes you happy

[slender hatch]

Same tbh

[slender hatch]

It works for now so im leaving it

One thing i'm learning very fast though, is that I do not like pipes

Or fluid transport

[shy mulch]

They are easy once you get the hang of it

But there's a bit more of a learning curve than belts

[slender hatch]

Like my crude oil refinery for rubbers and plastic if I did the math correctly i used the pure node and overclocked it so I make three hundred per minute and then I put that into ten refineries, but the last two, don't fill up so I used the pump and they still don't fill up so I left it, and I have no idea.What's wrong

[versed mesa]

@slender hatch one thing I am learning is it seams out factories need tobe much bigger when we think its big enought then its not big enought at all we need to go bigger but then start to think witch production line should we make bigger this is me wondering and not sure lol

[shy mulch]

that's not what pumps are for, they only affect how HIGH the fluid can go

[slender hatch]

I have rebuilt my starter factory like five times now

[shy mulch]

do you want help with that? (some people prefer to figure it out by themselves)

[slender hatch]

I did not know that I just learned something new

[slender hatch]

Im kinda just winging it atm

[shy mulch]

enjoy 🙂

quick tip without giving too much away: think about fluid sloshing in the pipes

[versed mesa]

So if I am needed to make Uranium fuel Rid to power the gens then ive just make everything in the sane factory is it a good idea ive got not clue am just trying to learn to then try understand lol

[versed mesa]

Yeah ive not dont this part from slit machine improvements to try get extra production out

[slender hatch]

I'm just trying to maximize everything.I can

[versed mesa]

Like its cool in all but expanding is insane lol

[slender hatch]

1000%

[shy mulch]

what I did when I was learning nuclear, is I brought raw materials in and made everything in 1 place, total spaghetti, just enough to fuel 1 plant, just so I could get a feel for it
then when I had that stable and understood how it worked, I took my time to design a bigger one and planned it out a bit
then when I got that stable, including plutonium refining, I then designed another, even bigger version
just keep improving and expanding and building bigger and better, don't try to pretend your first build will be your last

[slender hatch]

And than you try to be efficient and than you have no room for materials cause you make to much and than BOOM storage containers everywhere

[kind oriole]

is there a way to automatically collect lizard doggos?

[versed mesa]

I agree this is best way todo it when first beginner step 1 you just learning and getting to know how todo things step you try do better with 2nd factory step 3 you improve your skills and understand abit more lol

[unkempt coral]

Hey, has anyone else had problems with connecting conveyor lifts to wall holes? I'm staking my blueprints, like usual, but now I swapped to a version with wall holes to enable the auto-connect, but now I can't line up conveyor lifts at all. Even weirder is the fact I can do it on my other blueprint with wall holes, but not this one.

[versed mesa]

When i first started just about every resource had its own storage unit until I started getting up high in phases to realise many if them are no longer needed because they going to the production that knce i used to hand craft is no longer hand crafting lol

[shrewd palm]

bit of a weird question but doesnt anyone know what the default amount of inventory slots is?

[versed mesa]

Am not sure

Ive still not automated my Ammo lol

[versed mesa]

So what do you have coming in to one factory now and producing ?

[sturdy mural]

guys is it just my game being broken
Or are you unable to transport empty canisters with a drone

[shy mulch]

My biggest nuclear plant was a bit of a silly thing, but it worked eventually. All raw materials are brought in by belts and built up on site. There's 8 uranium, 4 plutonium, and 2 ficsonium plants

[sturdy mural]

the drone keeps eating my empty canisters bruh

[shy mulch]

I know a lot of people have built much bigger, but I really was just doing it for fun, I didn't need the power

[versed mesa]

8 Uranium plants ?

[shy mulch]

They don't disappear, but the drone will hold more than it shows because it has its own storage, separate from the drone port

the drone will hold 9 stacks

[shy mulch]

yes, at 250% of course

[sturdy mural]

so if i have a port with a drone on it
the first 9 stacks will just "disappear"?

[shy mulch]

no, they don't disappear, they are in the drone

[sturdy mural]

yeah thats what i meant

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch so am guessing you got a bunch of gens to eat Uranium fuel rods and then more for the other 2 products

[rustic quest]

If you point at the drone in disassembly mode you should see your canisters as part of the materials you would get back

[shy mulch]

not sure what you mean

[versed mesa]

Why so many plants is 1 nit enough?

[whole drum]

The way the pumps work is actually simple. They determine the max height that fluids can go within your system. This means that if you have a closed loop that has two verticle pipes, you actually only need the pumps on one side. Anything that outputs fluids has a natural lift of 10, so you make your first pump at 8 or 9 (just to be safe). You can measure the height by using the 4m tall walls and just stack them up and count them.

[shy mulch]

1 at 250% produces 6250 MW

[versed mesa]

Am trying to understand how many gens is taking ok what products

[shy mulch]

!wikisearch nuclear+power+plant

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=nuclear+power+plant

[rustic quest]

the number of generators depends on how many fuel rods you make

[sturdy mural]

wait how many rods/m a plant takes

[versed mesa]

I see

[sturdy mural]

was it 0.2? ( Like 5 plants for 1 rod/m)

[shy mulch]

click the link above ^

[reef basin]

depends on rods

[shy mulch]

it explains all, it's why the wiki exists

[sturdy mural]

my pc will explode if i open a browser😔

[whole drum]

Use your phone

[rustic quest]

It's 2x the rods if you overclock them at 250% (I think it's worth overclocking them also to save space)

[sturdy mural]

oh yeah it was 0.2 U rods/min @ 100

[shy mulch]

it's clearly 2.5x the rods if you're running at 250%...

[reef basin]

it's 2.5x the rods?

[shy mulch]

that's kinda what 250% means lol

[rustic quest]

No it's 0.5 rods/m at 250% so 2x

[versed mesa]

@rustic quest ive got 7 manufacturers making Uranium fuel rods at overclock but I dont recall if they have sloops as well I dont think so just over clocked with shards

[reef basin]

0.2 x 2.5 = 0.5

[shy mulch]

please use a calculator if you can't do basic multiplication in your head

[sturdy mural]

underclock them to 50% so you need to place twice as many plants so you make a big looking plant :trollface:

[rustic quest]

I meant the number of reactors is 2x the rods, that was OPs question

[versed mesa]

250% is with power but it increases product output

[shy mulch]

what?

[versed mesa]

But to beable todo this you need the power todo so lol

[rustic quest]

OP asked about the number of reactors which is 2x the number of rods at 250%

[whole drum]

He means overclock

[shy mulch]

you didn't make it clear that's the question you were answering, seemed like you were just making a statement

[whole drum]

Just carry stacks of them and hand-jam them as needed o.0

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch 250% is the power unlocker using shards which then increase output per minute

[mortal ginkgo]

Guys a smol question if I may; will I still get a good like of power usage if I have a Sink getting 180/min items via 270/min belt?

Or will Sink constantly go on and off?

[shy mulch]

yes, I just didn't understand what you were saying

[shy mulch]

interesting question, never thought about that, I'd assume it would fluctuate, do let us know if you test it 🙂

[rustic quest]

@shy mulch not to overwhelm you but you need to decide what to do with the waste from the nuclear reactors, once you start running them you will start to accumulate the waste which you can't just delete so you do need to decide to either store it or to reprocess it

[mortal ginkgo]

Thanks for the response. Will see what happens!

[whole drum]

Eat it

[reef basin]

afaik sink only uses power when actually sinking item, but idk if that means "1/1200 of a minute worth of power used" or something else

[versed mesa]

Yeah some times it can be hard to understand serton things I say lol

[sturdy mural]

doesn't the Sink constantly take power?

[reef basin]

only when sinking

[whole drum]

This was my understanding.

[sturdy mural]

huh
so it does not take when not sinking

[zenith fractal]

I think the sink takes a max amount of power of 30MW

while idle it takes like none but still like 1 MW

or am I dumb?

[reef basin]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/AWESOME_Sink#Trivia here's some interesting info

[zenith fractal]

could be either or, I do not pay attention to the sink much.

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch so how many gens you got running off od Uranium fuel rods and the other 2 then ?

[mortal ginkgo]

Cheers mate, will check it out!

[whole drum]

According to wiki, it doesn't use power if it's not working--like most other buildings.

[sturdy mural]

huh....
from what i can see it jumps between 0 and 30 every 2 seconds

[cloud lantern]

What does the 'Relevant Port' mean on drones? I can't find any answer to that anywhere.

[glossy venture]

So i can see shadows being drawn like.. Directly infront of me. Prob only a few feet infront of me.. Anyone know why? My view distance, and far trace shadows are set to the highest

[sturdy mural]

like if you sink a single item it will use 30 for 2 s and tur noff

[shy mulch]

@versed mesa I said here ^

[versed mesa]

Hmm well that dont sound alot is this because its your starter setups ?

[shy mulch]

I don't think it's a lot

[sturdy mural]

or for 3?4 seconds??
i sinked 1 biofuel and got a 30MW spike for 2-4s depending on how you read it?? cuz im not sure myself (4 including the spike walls) (just 2 counting the time its on the top)

[versed mesa]

So you using 8 Gens for Uranium Fuel rods

[shy mulch]

My first nuclear setup had 1 uranium plant at 100%, spaghetti extreme
My second nuclear setup had 4 uranium plants at 250%, 2 plutonium plants at 250%, and stored the waste, with most of the stuff pre-made in other factories and imported by drones
My third nuclear setup had 8 uranium plants at 250%, 4 plutonium plants at 250%, 2 ficsonium plants at 250%, with all raw materials brought in by belts and assembled on site

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch when you say plants I was maybe thing you have 8 Uranium Fuel Rod factories witch really dies sound alots and maybe over the top lmfao

[shy mulch]

I'm saying plants because that's what the building is called, "nuclear power plant", you keep calling them gens but that's fuel gens, different building

[peak wasp]

Mmmm nuclear spaghetti

[versed mesa]

Ok far I call them fuel gens lmao

[mortal ginkgo]

@shy mulch @reef basin in case you guys are curious, there is a buffer timer before Sink actually stops. From my tests, 1/2 mk1 belt still lets it constantly use 30 MW power.

However it starts to power up and down at 1/4 mk1 belt speed. Otherwise it is pure yolo.

Thanks both. ❤️

[versed mesa]

Nukeclear Fuel Generators lmfao

[shy mulch]

Sounds messy, glad I don't care about flat power graphs 😛

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch it make mire sense now to me lol

[sturdy mural]

yeah that matches my experiments that it burns power for 2s when it gets fed

or for 3

[cunning siren]

Are there any "tricks" to getting the drone animation sequence to be "faster" 🤔

[sturdy mural]

would you mind trying to do a third of the belt?

[mortal ginkgo]

Unreal Dev here. Unreal Engine's dynamic shadow system is brutally inefficient and costly. Since this game is constantly casting dynamic shadows (due to moving suns in sky etc), other shadows are cut heavily to save cost.

I got everything in max and got engine.ini edits to make it all look better. Shadows are still wonky as heck

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch which Biomes are your Nukeclear power plants in ?

[mortal ginkgo]

I will try this once before I hit trains just to test. Then gonna go pure yolo. Don't care about it myself THAT much too but alas.

[shy mulch]

The big one is over the water to the east of the swamp

[mortal ginkgo]

No. It is meant to be "meh" as a way of downside to having pure direct connection of sending goods around. Also to make sure to not use it in low distances etc.

[cunning siren]

Thanks

[sturdy mural]

did i shoot myself in the foot by making my nuclear powerplant on the bottom left corner of the map
(like between the "island" and the main land next to the waterfall void)

[versed mesa]

Ah yeah thats where am at more or let i built starting factory fir Uranium fuel Rods at the top of the waterfall where swamp is at but am th8nking that ocean us best place for the plants tobe

[mortal ginkgo]

just send the water around if thats the issue. I dont think there is any shooting involved regardless

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch have you done anything in the dessert yet ?

[rustic quest]

I would also build the reactors over the ocean, plenty of space for the water extractors

[shy mulch]

done stuff everywhere

[versed mesa]

Reactors do you mean the other energy creation machine ?

[sturdy mural]

no like its in the literal corner of the map

the problem will be getting resources

[dense violet]

... no?

[dense violet]

drone the rods in there. No other resources needed

[peak wasp]

So is massive amounts of fuel generators a good idea?

[dense violet]

eh, if you enjoy placing hundreds of them down... you do you

[sturdy mural]

no like
the fuel rod factory along with the powerplant

[rustic quest]

No I mean the nuclear reactors for the nuclear power plant since you need a lot of water and water extractors are farily large over the ocean makes it easier to space things out

[peak wasp]

I plan to put them in the generator room below my base

[versed mesa]

Hope you dont mind me asking i only need to get an understanding what others are doing and to what I mite need tobe doing

[dense violet]

one train line if you like but you're making more work for yourself

[shy mulch]

@versed mesa https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1432168998631510201/Screenshot20250331-15400400000.png?ex=690012d1&is=68fec151&hm=e1e2fea5b2407861a0df43b45319864c1f836aa4ecc20342edce6af274a487bc& there's the one off the swamp coast

[peak wasp]

How far down does a generator need to be to prevent noise pollution

[versed mesa]

True

[dense violet]

depends on how many hundreds you're talking about, generally if you're doing a big power station to keep you going for the game you want it in it's own corner away from everything

[cunning siren]

There is a volume slider for stuff like that

[shy mulch]

which desert are you meaning

[peak wasp]

Oh I plan to put it here

[dense violet]

the main issue is that putting everything in one spot is really hard on your computer

[rustic quest]

In my first play I built my nuclear power plant over the lake next to the entrance of the cave with the uranium node (the one that connects grassy fields with that other side) and that was too cramped for the water extractors, below the reactors it became an unholy mess

[versed mesa]

So i am guessing the resources are being fed from underneath the foundations like I mean the conveyors are underneath

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message

[shy mulch]

yes there is a lot of belts underneath the platform

[peak wasp]

how does the game render stuff...is it within view?

[dense violet]

nearby

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch I think there only one desert biome in game

[dense violet]

one of the many reasons to not do 'mega factories'

and having a huge power station far the fuck away is very convenient for that as you ahve no reason to have it close by

[shy mulch]

rocky in north west and sandy in north east?
or are they called something else?
I don't pay a lot of attention to biome names

[dense violet]

just having all those objects nearby is an issue

[peak wasp]

how close is close?

[dense violet]

same part of the map

[versed mesa]

Idk me to lol

[peak wasp]

so there is no change at all

I am setup all in blue crater

[dense violet]

hiding it in the basement will not improve anything

[shy mulch]

are you thinking of north east or north west

[peak wasp]

because this is my current power section compared to my base

[versed mesa]

Idk ive only recently open first start of deset left of the swamp land lol

[shy mulch]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1432170645608730676

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message

like my power source is really not that far from my base

[dense violet]

ok?
look, I'm not your mum. I'm telling you that fire will burn you.
It's up to you whether or not you want to stick your hand in this particular fire and accept the consequences

It's not like you'll die or anything but you do have issues having tons of crap going on in one spot, especiallly if you're computer isn't great

even if you're comptuer is 'good' it'll probably struggle depending how big you go

[versed mesa]

So is this big bit only rocky desert ?

[shy mulch]

that's rocky desert, yes
there's another desert called sandy desert, I think, or dune desert, or something like that

I don't have much production there, it's mostly just train stations picking up raw resources

[versed mesa]

Really wow see the other day is when I first enter abit of rocky Desert and tbh I thought this leads to dune desert maybe it dont then

[peak wasp]

okay well I am not sure what I'd do since everything is already set up and spent hours and hours on this save building this area up

#screenshots message

[dense violet]

don't build your main factory on top of it then?

[versed mesa]

Like what resources please?

[shrewd palm]

dune desert has a ton of iron and copper mostly

[shy mulch]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1432171662991953950

[shrewd palm]

decent amount of coal and limestone too

[versed mesa]

Woah

[hoary galleon]

jeez

im doing trains wrong

[versed mesa]

Interesting

[hoary galleon]

just building everything off the coast.

[shy mulch]

if they work, then you're doing it right

[hoary galleon]

idk if they work tho.

[versed mesa]

Yeah ive not gotten trains property setup yet atleast not for Auto deliveries i dont it my self lol

[tacit valley]

why do we have a glados emoji in a satisfactory server

[hoary galleon]

ADA

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch thats for sharing you info it help my mind to understand lol

[shy mulch]

you can't see it properly in that screenshot, but that big platform-looking-thing at the coast, is actually a refining factory, where I send a lot of copper and iron and use pure recipes (with water) to make more efficient ingots, then other trains take the ingots away to other places for further production, also make aluminum there too, I'll see if I have a closer screen of that area

[versed mesa]

Awesome

@shy mulch have you automated trucks also ?

[shy mulch]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1432173572574412914

[shy mulch]

I messed with them a bit but never found a good use case for them

[versed mesa]

Or my lord so cool so many refineries how can I come visit your factories?

[shy mulch]

You can make your own 😛

That save has about 1100 hours in it

[versed mesa]

I want to visit your factories

So i can drawel down my face lmfao

[versed mesa]

Great job you doing awesome 👌

[shy mulch]

btw that screenshot I showed of rocky desert, see the big long platform with all the buildings on it, that area is making 25/min ballistic warp drives and sending to sink

[versed mesa]

Not sure if i had seen lol

[shy mulch]

combined with a bunch of random other stuff, I'm getting average about 80-85 mill sink points per min

[shrewd palm]

almost enough

[shy mulch]

I know a bunch of people have done way more, and it's nowhere close to theoretical max, but it's literally my first save so go easy 😛

[versed mesa]

Wow alot

[shy mulch]

I just kinda wanted do experience a bit of everything

[versed mesa]

I get it lol

[peak wasp]

rocket fuel or nitro rocket fuel?

[shy mulch]

I like the nitro alt

[white dawn]

Nitro is a much simpler production chain, but I believe it's more expensive in a few ways

Nitro certainly has a lot of devotees

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch what about drones you got those set up ?

[white dawn]

(Also it lets you produce rocket fuel before you can usually do so, since Nitrogen is a somewhat late-tier unlock)

[shy mulch]

god yeah, can't even count how many lol

probably overuse drones tbh

[versed mesa]

Damn lucky ive not yet lol

[shy mulch]

love drones, so easy to set up

[versed mesa]

Yeah i bet lol

@shy mulch ive also not set up hypertubes

[shy mulch]

I find them very good for collecting awkward stuff, like uranium and sam
Stick a drone port at each miner, and they can bring all the raw materials to a central place, and you just need to have fuel in the central place to feed all the drones

[peak wasp]

Wait how does it do that

[zenith fractal]

nitro is less resource efficient but much easier to make

so i usually go nitro if I am lazy

[versed mesa]

Yeah like batteries for one of the fuels

[lament niche]

@shy mulch @mortal ginkgo #screenshots message

[shy mulch]

I use packaged rocket fuel for my drones

[versed mesa]

Ok nice

[shy mulch]

red forest desert 😛

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch so every drone station you should have fuel at them for the drones

[sick falcon]

just finished phase 3, why is phase 4 about 50x as complicated

i aint built for this

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[zenith fractal]

phase 4 is the biggest difficulty jump in the game

just

focus on one thing at a time

[peak wasp]

Is phase 4 the nuclear one

[zenith fractal]

make each space elevator part 1 by 1, phase 4 takes very long.

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch ive got thousands more questions to pick your brain with lmfao

[sick falcon]

yea everything from aluminum to particle accelerators

[sturdy mural]

yes

[shrewd palm]

yes

aluminum and all that fun stuff too

[sick falcon]

before WHAT

[zenith fractal]

nothing

[shrewd palm]

dont worry about it you'll get there when you get there

[sturdy mural]

i got Complete Phase 4 and im at nuclear so im glad to say that its phase 4

[zenith fractal]

shut up, i didn't say anything

[shy mulch]

The answer is 42

[versed mesa]

Lol

[sick falcon]

not a huge fan of nuclear being at least 4-5 stages away, my current power grid is barely keeping up as is

[versed mesa]

42 minute befor answering each one lmfao

[sturdy mural]

build more 🔥

[shrewd palm]

the bare minimum you need to get set up for it is aluminum

[zenith fractal]

don't worry, better fuels and more oil efficient recipes has your back.

until you get nuclear power

[lament niche]

counterpoint: order 66

[sick falcon]

:steamhappy:

[vocal patrol]

hi yall this is my first time playing this game tips?

[shrewd palm]

and you can also make a quick and dirty rocket fuel setup to either be your main power plant or to get you going until you get nuclear online

[sturdy mural]

i'd personally recommend unlocking everything
so you dont have to suffer with 2000k waste

[shrewd palm]

hence the bare minimum

[sturdy mural]

trust the process
dont give up

you can always expand
ficsit does not waste

[vocal patrol]

best start loco?

[mortal ginkgo]

what is this belting brother, where are the trains?!?!

[shrewd palm]

build on foundations as soon as you can (you can unlock concrete ones from the awesome shop which are dirt cheap)

[shrewd palm]

imo the grassy fields and then in close second the rocky desert

[lament niche]

also on the same bridge

[vocal patrol]

uh

[lament niche]

The bridge is built with blueprints @mortal ginkgo

[vocal patrol]

ok😭

[shrewd palm]

technically there isnt a "best" starting spot and you can choose whatever, but grassy fields and rocky desert are the best set up for new players

[shy mulch]

No, I automate my question answering. The answer to every question is 42

[zenith fractal]

be prepared to spend hours on a build only to tear everything down multiple times

[versed mesa]

I see lol

[vocal patrol]

welp i have 1000th houers in wt so i think i can take it :b

[shy mulch]

Read everything the game tells you, there's lots of tips and help as you go along, don't just click away from stuff to get rid of text boxes

[zenith fractal]

war thunder? I am sorry for your loss, you can in fact take it I think then.

[shrewd palm]

hell reference!!!! (im in the same boat i need help)

[vocal patrol]

8.9 germany 💔

and 11.9 air

[shrewd palm]

never get to top tier 9.0 is far enough

[versed mesa]

Lol

[shrewd palm]

go have fun with other trees

[vocal patrol]

welp thanks im gona spwan in now wish me luck

[versed mesa]

Think ill go have a beer to celebrate my talks lol

[shrewd palm]

you must get to the typhoon

[vocal patrol]

YESSS

[sick falcon]

start in dune desert

[shrewd palm]

its so good

im working on the rafale but im waiting on some sales to get a premium to get that out of the way

[vocal patrol]

your late by 20 sec's

my gole to get glowing green goop power

how long dose that take?

[small pebble]

Very long

[shrewd palm]

gonna be a while if you're just starting out

[zenith fractal]

depends, from like 104 to 280 or something

[vocal patrol]

104 ?

[zenith fractal]

but yeah, it's gonna take a while. the factory must grow

[zenith fractal]

measured in hours

[vocal patrol]

kill me

[shrewd palm]

i think in my first save i unlocked it around the 100-150 hour mark but didnt actually make a good power plant until like 500

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch thanks for the chat mate

[shy mulch]

42

[versed mesa]

Lol

[vocal patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-nod-yes-oui-bobbing-head-gif-9640268849193044139

[shrewd palm]

unlike the war thunder this grind is fun and you probably wont notice where the last 2-4 weeks went

[vocal patrol]

yayay

[versed mesa]

Beer

[sick falcon]

hundred hours minimum

[shy mulch]

If you don't get the 42 reference, you need to read Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

[zenith fractal]

the factory game phenomena is you play at like 21:30. then boom. it's 06:00

[versed mesa]

I dont lol

[shrewd palm]

that reminds me i need to bully my friends into getting bf6

[shy mulch]

You've missed out on a piece of literary genius

[vocal patrol]

in usa time

[zenith fractal]

9pm to 6 am

time flies in this game

[vocal patrol]

welp

its time for me to lock in :b

[zenith fractal]

good luck

[shrewd palm]

if you're not careful this game actually will make your time disappear

[cunning siren]

TIL: Sinking Trigons pretty good points 🤔

[versed mesa]

Beer

Am now trying Milk Stout beer from Berlin lol

[shy mulch]

my style is finish work at 5pm, make some food, eat, then play for a couple of hours, then whoops when did 4am happen

[zenith fractal]

so true

[lament niche]

@mortal ginkgo @shy mulch @zenith fractal looki at muh trainz
#screenshots message

I LIEK TRAINZ

[mortal ginkgo]

bro blz no more @

[zenith fractal]

is that, a damn coal powered train engine?

[shy mulch]

very trains, so choo, many wow

[zenith fractal]

at least a replica of it

much train me like

[versed mesa]

Lol

[lament niche]

no, it's still electric to boil the water

[zenith fractal]

[zenith fractal]

how did you make a replica of a steam engine?

[sick falcon]

@hexed willow ur factory in #screenshots looks super cool

[versed mesa]

MOD ?

Am going back to watching House of Gunness just about finished it on the last Episode

Its made me fancy a Guinness lol

[lament niche]

correct

[versed mesa]

Awesome

Steam Engines was the first ever trains made

[zenith fractal]

what's it called?

I would like to use it someday

[small pebble]

How is it ? Been contemplating starting it lol

[versed mesa]

Yeah is good almost like Peaky Blinders i love films and shows like this

[small pebble]

I was hoping it’d have some business vibes like succession lol

[long ingot]

is anyone able to help me with this https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1432182587270496327

[versed mesa]

Well its do with th first owner if Guiness to him Dieing to him given his children everything and then serious drama lol

[hexed willow]

Thanks! I got one more big ss comin... 👀

@whole swan and @void bridge are the other guys in the game

[hexed willow]

we wanted to go bigger but the server cant handle it, so many crashes

[long ingot]

bro i will do anything fore someone to help

[sturdy mural]

dang guys i just found out the hard way
do not put train signals on the splits

[graceful burrow]

Hello guys, I haven't played since the 1.1 update but now I am missing the gold build gun. Is this a common issue or do you know how I can get this back?

[sturdy mural]

you bought the game pre 1.0?

[zenith fractal]

I think your best bet is the braided cables located in the awesome shop architecture section. or using power cables cosmetically

[long ingot]

how thick are they

[graceful burrow]

No but I had it before the 1.1 update. I know, I wasn't suppose to have it but still lol

[zenith fractal]

braided cables are pretty thick, power cables the one used for powering things are pretty thin.

[long ingot]

do they sag

[zenith fractal]

no, I don't think so.

[long ingot]

can i simulate sag

[zenith fractal]

but they are the only things I know that are cables, power cables are thin but sag a bit.

[grim carbon]

i may need to write this down, but how do i craft a portable miner?

[zenith fractal]

in the hub if you progress enough you will get a building called the equipment workshop

you can build them there

[long ingot]

yes you can bro lets go

[grim carbon]

yes, thank you

[zenith fractal]

yippee

[long ingot]

kinda

look in the thread

[sturdy mural]

iirc gold things are only for those who supported the game pre-1.0

[zenith fractal]

that bridge looks very cool

[long ingot]

i didnt build it

i js found it online

[zenith fractal]

alright, well good luck on your city building adventures.

[sturdy mural]

dang guys
i wish they added colorblind mode to train blocks

cuz this is absurd #screenshots message

[zenith fractal]

that is an eyesore

[shrewd palm]

why are there

why are there so many path signals

[long ingot]

are they that thick

[sturdy mural]

im trying okay?

[zenith fractal]

lemme do something in screenshots

[shrewd palm]

put paths on the entrances and blocks on the exits

[sturdy mural]

you are talking to a factorio player
where you separate every single tiniest intersection of the rails for throughput

[zenith fractal]

I posted the 2 cables

[sturdy mural]

y not paths on exits?

[zenith fractal]

you can make them thicker by placcing them next to eachother

[spiral summit]

no way you can put the factory carts in lifts

this is groundbreaking

[long ingot]

put a pipe next to it so i can see the size

[shrewd palm]

#screenshots message assuming you're donig right side = forwards

[shrewd palm]

you can but there isnt really a point

block signals break the track up into blocks, and path signals do the same

except path signals can allow more than one train in a block so long as they dont cross the same "path"

[long ingot]

first of all why do your pipeslook that cool

[sturdy mural]

mk2 pipes

[long ingot]

second of all yea thats perfect