satisfactory

[cunning siren]

The Stitched Iron Plate and Heavy Encased Frame alternate recipes cut out most of the need for screws. Having Cast Screws for Copper Rotor combo is a good plan too, Steel Rotor in combination with the first two alts removes screws almost entirely 🤷

[minor cedar]

Just got my Kickstarter mousemat and mugs! Looks great, minus a random drop of blue paint in the middle of one of my mugs lol

[candid torrent]

call me crazy but i think wire and screws are on the same level

[feral geyser]

Screws are a trade-off. If you want faster output per machine, use the screws recipes. If you want slightly better resource efficiency, use the non-screw recipes.

[cunning siren]

Except Copper Rotor, you get both with screws

[wild lotus]

Guys, need help, have a question. Can some please check the questions and help channel?

[feral geyser]

Screws only suck if you:
A) don't have Mk3 belts yet, or
B) have a tendency to over-manifold.

[brisk lantern]

yall I got a question, I'm in the early game (I think, I just unlocked advanced steel production) and I got the fine concrete recipe which uses silica to make more concrete per limestone but I wanna know if using that is gonna cause trouble in the future because I heard that quartz becomes an issue once factories get bigger and I dont wanna spend quartz on concrete if it's already a bottleneck in big factories

[limpid cairn]

yes itll cause trouble in the future

[feral geyser]

Yeah, silica is pretty important for aluminum later

Wet concrete is where it's at

[cunning siren]

Screws suck if you don't have the proper alts and do not know how to obtain them 😆

[limpid cairn]

no

you can cut out silica out of aluminum

[wild lotus]

Yup but for producing ingots it's better

[candid torrent]

mk6 belt full of screws be like

[limpid cairn]

you need too much silica out of 💀

[candid torrent]

i hate using quartz for aluminum

sloppy -> pure all day

[feral geyser]

You can but you really shouldn't

[wild lotus]

Yea but a lot of quartz nodes just end up lying around the map, so in case it's close it's pretty useful

[cunning siren]

Quartz is not a big deal IMO 🤷 I make it into silica and sink it mostly, some of it is used, most of it is not

[candid torrent]

although i could use more aluminum now that ficsonium is on the table

[limpid cairn]

its still not good

[feral geyser]

Just do Quartz Purification with nitric and double dip, get crystals and silica

[limpid cairn]

yes it gives more throughtput but you just waste more than a lot of silicia

[feral geyser]

If you're really crunching for quartz

[cunning siren]

Who is crunching for quartz? 😆

[candid torrent]

quartz is pretty abundant compared to bauxite i believe

[cunning siren]

There is SOOOO much of it

[candid torrent]

it’s uncommon at worst

[feral geyser]

Exaclty

[candid torrent]

sulfur on the other hand…

:(

[wild lotus]

Exactly, which is y I feel the ingots when with quartz is better

[limpid cairn]

arent you forced to use pure silica for aluminium since it gives way more silica than purification

[candid torrent]

sloppy -> base is the it yeah

[wild lotus]

Except for that bunch near the blue crater

[candid torrent]

that’s on the other side of the world 😭

[wild lotus]

I mean depends on where your base is😂

[feral geyser]

If you only need silica, doing Cheap Silica does get you more. But if you need both crystals and silica, Purification beats any other combination

[brisk lantern]

one guy is saying quartz doesnt matter, one guy is saying it does, and one guy is using emojis
ima just stick with normal concrete until I get the wet concrete recipe, better safe than having to rebuild the whole production line

[candid torrent]

im on the west coast for the most pasrt

[brisk lantern]

btw the desert is THE best biome ever

[candid torrent]

oil:

[limpid cairn]

kinda true kinda not true

[cunning siren]

All the biomes are good, cept maybe the noob grass field one

[feral geyser]

Even grass fields isn't so bad

[brisk lantern]

train:

[candid torrent]

snakes on the train:

[feral geyser]

Enough is enough

[candid torrent]

eveywehre is good we have globalization

infrastructure issue

[brisk lantern]

based

[limpid cairn]

theres oil pretty close to the desert lol

[candid torrent]

trains are cool but have you heard of the humble fugly sky bus

[dawn bramble]

i don't know where else i would say this
but hear me out..
truck signals would be crazy cool

like traffic lights

[candid torrent]

i tried to set up a truck to drive some materials around and the first thing it did was drive into the ocean

i built a train track in its stead

[dawn bramble]

seems right

[candid torrent]

i love trucks a lot theyre so fun and cool

[limpid cairn]

vehicle recording seems so weird in sf tbh

[dawn bramble]

bit buggy

[limpid cairn]

like my car once drove into the void and killed me

and i didnt record it into the void

[candid torrent]

yeah idk what went wrong but it just decided to keep going straight around a turn

[dawn bramble]

despite all my rage trucks are still pretty cool

[amber heath]

is there a way to fully automate packaged biofuel?

[dawn bramble]

requires biomass, so no.

[candid torrent]

nope unfortunately not

[amber heath]

damn

[dawn bramble]

very unfortunate

[amber heath]

yes it is

[candid torrent]

you can make a pretty effective organic junk -> biofuel machine but

never truly automatic

[amber heath]

whats that

[candid torrent]

just a line thats input is a chest u throw leaves n wood into

[amber heath]

oh yeah i already have that

[dawn bramble]

ive heard a tale of the oasis in the dune desert (3592 -2121) that gives you the most biomass in the game

better then the northern forest

[brisk lantern]

can confirm

it gave me so much biomass when I still relied on biofuel

[dawn bramble]

lets be real why is biofuel so expensive in the awesome shop (3 tickets is over priced)

[brisk lantern]

to discourage you from buying stuff parts in the awesome shop unless it's an emergency
parts in there are horribly overpriced

[dawn bramble]

fair
and yet i still buy some parts for unlocks (i purchased some plastic and rubber for the packager)

[plucky flower]

Im building a refinery for the first time and just want to get some product without doing all the HRF. Im using tons os fluid buffers and just flushing the entire network. MWAHAHAHAHHAA

No Heavy Residual fuel for me😂😂😂

[dawn bramble]

honestly thats a good start

[amber heath]

what do you rely on now

[brisk lantern]

coal

[amber heath]

as jetpack fuel?

[brisk lantern]

oh nah I still got biofuel for jetpack fuel lol

[amber heath]

yeah i figured

but it doesnt burn much biofuel right?

[dawn bramble]

you cant use coal as jetpack fuel lol

[brisk lantern]

but I have like at least 4800 biofuel so no shortages for the foreseeable future

[amber heath]

ik

[amber heath]

yeah no shortages for a long ass time with that

[wild lotus]

Guys, what is the max amount of parts i can input into a drone port per minute such that the drone can transport it without any overflow or clogging of belts? (Stack size is 100 and assuming there is a second drone always waiting above the port)

[brisk lantern]

no idea lol I havent even built a single drone yet best of luck on your calculations

[dawn bramble]

y'know what sucks
i made my save from an lfg about a little idea i had (4 dudes 4 bases) ((quick rundown, it's just 2 biome apart atleast bases for each player))
and then everyone left, now im playing alone

[brisk lantern]

aint this game meant for singleplayer and multiplayer is like just taped on top of the original game

also assume that everyone is gonna leave at some point, that happens on every multiplayer game server from minecraft to satisfactory

[dawn bramble]

i mean you are correct about that but mutliplayer feels more fun

[reef basin]

I'd say full belt

[dawn bramble]

now do i continue decorating my newest factory or make some sweet sweet fuel power

[candid torrent]

can i have a drone from my central fuel plant deliver fuel to foreign drone ports

[shrewd palm]

yes

[candid torrent]

alright looks like we’re upgrading to ionized fuel then

[shrewd palm]

why stop there

why not do plutonium

[candid torrent]

plutonium fuel rods…

also i think i should use pink diamonds

gives the impression of making the coal move a lot more

[languid anvil]

is there any material/foundation that looks pure white when swatched with white?

[willow storm]

haven't tried but perhaps plated concrete?

or whatever it's called

the one made with plastic

[grand quest]

is the interactive map up to date rn?

[brisk lantern]

nearly nothing relevant to the map changed in 1.1

so I would assume yes

[grand quest]

are there still three quartz nodes in the very top left

[brisk lantern]

if anyone knows help this guy out

[grand quest]

bc i cannot find them lol, even going right where they are on the interactive map

[shy mulch]

The ones in the cave?

[grand quest]

i think they might be

do you know where the entrance is

[shy mulch]

"going right where they are" are you going by all 3 coordinates or are you just going by X Y and ignoring height?

Caves are all marked on interactive map too

[livid creek]

hey guys, is 250 singularity cells too much or nah?

[grand quest]

just xy bc i honestly didnt realize theyd show up when not looking at the caves specifically

[shy mulch]

You should get into the habit of checking height of things

[humble epoch]

The math would be easy to figure out with some multiplication and whatever but the problem is there's a 54 second take off and landing time that you can't shut off the belts for each drone so you will have overflow or belt clogging or shortage of parts if you have the belts going very slow to accommodate landing and take off times.
This isn't worded as well as it could be but I don't have that kind of time.

[shy mulch]

Depends, if you have a use for them, no. If you have no use for them, yes

[livid creek]

well im endgame and im bored xd

oh well i wanted to say 250/min

takes around 1000 constructors and 1250 smelters in total

[shy mulch]

I can't remember how many I'm making but it's probably about the same

[livid creek]

wanted to do 500/min but calculator says no

[livid creek]

alr

[shy mulch]

Yeah you're gonna be struggling to use that many anyway tbh

Make more portals

[livid creek]

portals?

are they useful at all?

[shy mulch]

It's one of the two things you'd use singularity cells for

I've got portals dotted around all over the place, love them

[silent aurora]

Question

Are tgere gonna be build limits to satis console?

Like in SE. PCU system where you have a budget and each buildable has a cost subtrated from

[livid creek]

ah oaky nice, i just use hypertube cannons. one question, can trains pass trhough portals?

[hard ivy]

Only players can

[cunning siren]

Doggo portal when? 😭

[livid creek]

🎮 Console (PS5 / Xbox) Considerations

Because consoles have fixed hardware, the game may include performance warnings or soft caps (e.g., suggesting you’re building beyond optimal levels).

But no official announcement or developer comments suggest a hard PCU-style limit will be added.

It’s more likely they’ll use dynamic optimization and performance guidance, not restrictions.

[livid creek]

i asked chat gpt

[hard ivy]

It's not a thing on PC so why would it be on console?

The only limit will be performance

[shy mulch]

I'm astonished you've gone to the bother of making 250/min singularity cells and have never used portals

[livid creek]

i havent but i want to build something massive and i dont know what item i should pump everything into

[lethal scroll]

heyo, this is just a suspicion, but am I correct to assume that crystal computer and silicon cirquit board are a pretty good combination? Together they would seem to allow for the assembly of a computer without any petrolium parts

and both swap out the plastic components for the same core resource (quartz)

[mortal ginkgo]

quartz is not abundant so it might be a problem at very late game if you are scaling hard

otherwise yolo

[cunning siren]

Silicon Circuit Board is all good Caterium Computer > Crystal Computer IMO, who wants to make more Crystal Oscillators than they have to?

[shy mulch]

If you've completed all the actual tasks/achievements and are just building big for fun, the obvious choice is ballistic warp drives. Sinking those gets you the most points, unless you're going crazy full minmax on the world

[cunning siren]

And the more plast and rubber I can use for parts the better IMO 🤷

[lethal scroll]

I like recipes that allow me to set up production of a part in a different area from normally. For example, the core components of the computer seem to require copper, and plastic (petrolium). So, a good area to set up computer production would be somewhere where there is an intersection of oil and copper nodes.
Now, taking for example iron wire and electrode cirquit board, I can instead set up computer production at an intersection between oil and iron instead.
Or with caterium cirquit board and quickwire cable, at an intersection between oil and caterium.
And for the same reason, crystal computer and silicon cirquit board allow computer production at an intersection between quartz and copper.

Just allows you for more options for sites to set up production

[cunning siren]

Oil products are easy AF

[mortal ginkgo]

.... I guess!

[lethal scroll]

I don't like importing basic parts, so anything that gives me more options for locations I can use to set up advanced parts production are really useful to me

[mortal ginkgo]

In most cases, thats what the alt recipes are for, they make it easier etc

but ask for more power, space etc

[lethal scroll]

I like to set up shop on areas that have a bunch of useful nodes, and with alt recipes it increases the amount of things I can make from just the resources available

[coarse pebble]

What if there was some kind of integrated foundation that could carry electricity without any power poles (would automatically transfer electricity to other connected integrated foundations) that you could build with some Quickwire or something

[silent aurora]

Mucho grazie.

[elder apex]

you mean like this? https://ficsit.app/mod/PoweredFoundations

[dense violet]

Jesus Christ, this again

It USED to be a thing in vanilla. You didn’t need a mod. But it was very dumb and got axed

It’s such a mess for power management

[dense violet]

You like a good spot where you can use mostly local ingredients to build fairly high tier items from scratch

It’s a good method 🙂

[lethal scroll]

basically, yeah. I don't wanna be moving stuff like plastic, iron, copper wire, etc around over any large distances

[dense violet]

It’s what I too 🙂
It was fun building a 50.4 uranium rod factory on location, only having to import the uranium and a node of sulfur

[cunning glade]

Rcus are pretty important right

[dense violet]

I mean as important as any other part

Afaik you can’t cut them out of world product

[cunning glade]

Well I'm thinking of redoing my factory and making more of them

But heatsink is kinda the better recipe right?

So I'm thinking I make a factory of those first

Think it's heat sinks or cooling systems one of the 2

[dense violet]

Maybe consider what you’d be using them for first , to give you an idea of what you need and what recipes you’d use

[cunning glade]

That's fair ik I need them for some stuff I don't remember what without looking

[dense violet]

I would plan out the use for either 🙂

im not sure you can compare a heat sink recipe abd rcu recipe though

[cunning glade]

With drones now I can start just droning the low ppm stuff

[cunning glade]

I mean cuz it's the easier way too make rcu

At least that's what I thought I could be incorrect

Idk just unlocked so much stuff overwhelmed and idk where too start cuz normally I figure out what I wanna make then brainstorm how but RN there's so much too make I have no clue what too start but probs rcu

[dense violet]

They’re used for dif things though right?

But yeah figure out the items they make too to have an idea. You’ll need both 😉

[cunning glade]

Ik I'll need both

If I remember correctly I got told the more heatsinks u can make the easier late game is or something like that

I figured start the heatsink factory then expand when needed

But unsure

Idk all I do is think about the game and my next plan but RN I don't have a next plan so I'm idk feel lost

[coarse pebble]

Huh?

The way I would implement it you would still have to connect buildings to the foundations with cables

It just came into my mind after I thought about how cool itd be to just be able to plop a wall pole onto a pillar and have no visible cable going from some other pole to it.

Which can be done, it just takes nudging and some time

[tepid prairie]

is phase 3 at 35 Hours good?

[zenith fractal]

doesn't really matter how fast you complete this game

so if you think it's good

then it is

unless you're speed running, then completion time matters.

[tropic juniper]

satisfactory is like a piece of jerky. you should chew it more than usual food

[white dawn]

It's been dried out and salted? sounds tasty

[silent vector]

Hey, anyone with amd 5 9600x?! How's the cpu doing in late games?? Huge factory and a lot of machines?!

[tropic juniper]

it's delicious

[lime ermine]

As someone with this CPU in phase 5 it's fine, my 3070 is what's having trouble

Only because I'm at max settings

But still get 100-120 fps

[cunning glade]

Id say 12700k is close enough I think I'm at 50% usage well at 4k but def have a decent sized world

[silent vector]

I haven’t reached phase 5 yet, but I’m pretty sure this game eats the CPU alive 😅 so I’m wondering before buying it.
Also, do you play Captain of Industry? I think that last line might be a bit #off-topic 😄

[sour dew]

yo guys, im trying to get the achievement that says i need to go to every start biome, i did just go to all of them but still it says i only got 1/4. i dont know what to do, any suggest?

[silent vector]

Most of the single core performance test between 9600x and 12700k no even close, 9600x outperform it by 20 to 30%

[cunning glade]

Well yeah it's faster in single core

[cunning glade]

I'm doing just fine

I've already gone over the object limit

[sour dew]

😭

[lethal scroll]

start walkin

[sour dew]

in the start zone?

i was just doing that for like 20 minutes, still dont count

[knotty plume]

do you guys prefer pure or leeched alternate recipes to get more out of base ores?

[plucky flower]

I dont use them at all yet lol

I really like the functioing ones like stiched iron plates or iron wires etcetra

[cunning glade]

It means every start zone

[cunning glade]

Imo pure is better 90% of the time

But leached can have its uses

[sour dew]

yep, i was going one and another time to every zone, it just says i just have 1 of 4

[peak wasp]

Hey guys!, Looking to get back into satisfactory again. Last time played was Jan 2024 D: .
Just how much new stuff am I going to need to learn XD?

really hope I can bring my old save over to the new patch

[dense violet]

alloy recipes

[zenith fractal]

pure

just adding water is so easy

[dense violet]

alloy recipes are extremely convenient. Copper and iron generally exist next to each other. Only takes a tiny bit of copper to explode iron ingots. Copper alloy is essentially converting iron to copper and iron is a trash resource in general so thats fantastic

And very compact, no need for pipes for refineries and almost the same outputs

stops the game from becoming refinery simulator 2024

[limpid cairn]

It doesn’t eat that much performance

[shrewd palm]

performance only tanks when you build on insane scales

[limpid cairn]

I’m running on a somewhat old cpu (i7 12700) and it runs perfectly without any errors

[zenith fractal]

josh from let's game it out

[candid ingot]

Are there any mods that let you sink ficsonium?

[peak wasp]

is there any way to see what mods were used in an old game save?

[zenith fractal]

isn't the entire point of ficsonium to be used as disposal of plutonium waste?

why sink it when you can use it for fuel?

[candid ingot]

Because I NEED NUTS

NUTS ARE WHAT I NEED

IV'E ALR AUTOMATED THE BIGGIE SLOOP

[zenith fractal]

ya know what? fair

the nuts are very important

but i do not think a mod to sink ficsonium has been made

[sick falcon]

can i make double sided trains

or do i need an awkward turnaround at the end of my tracks

[zenith fractal]

do you mean a push and pull system?

[candid ingot]

Well MAKE IT and I'll give you 1/8th of a nut

how bout' that

[zenith fractal]

I have no game making experience

[leaden turret]

your stations and trains have to be facing the correct direction or they won't dock when automated

[sick falcon]

like a train with an engine on both sides so it can stop at a station and then leave the other direction

[zenith fractal]

ok a push and pull system

that is possible but I find it to be annoying to set up and I can't explain it well

[sick falcon]

ty

[zenith fractal]

youtube guides I say you must plunge into

[leaden turret]

"trains can't reverse into station on autopilot" is about it

[zenith fractal]

https://youtu.be/MGw8ngs--7o?si=sQQT6s3hre5ZsGlD I found this for basic push and pull systems

train guide

[dense violet]

Probably. At that point don't even make it thoguh

[zenith fractal]

see if it helps you if not then I guess try to engineer one

[leaden turret]

see also:
⬅️⬛⬛⬛⬛➡️

[peak wasp]

aw we cant post pics to this channel?

[zenith fractal]

#screenshots

you can here

I see you already have

and I must say

I have no idea how you're gonna figure out how to

I guess do your best to review the smart splitter settings and try to reverse engineer it?

[dense violet]

main tip is don't use things like this, hope it helped #screenshots message

[peak wasp]

I've figured it out 🙂

[turbid merlin]

My question is why

[peak wasp]

got a small section into the blueprint, and checked it's output

[zenith fractal]

ah

[peak wasp]

to have a centralized storage, where everything is automatically sorted into associated storage boxes?

I did this in jan, 2024 man D:

[dense violet]

still 'why'
you never have to mix all your items like this in the first place
even if you do want to mix some for some convenience you'd never have to mix more than a handful of items and a couple smart splitters fixes that

you have to actively create the problem youre solving for

what are you, GM getting rid of trams in LA to sell busses and cars?

[peak wasp]

it's also used to automatically sort out and distribute items from drone hubs, train centers etc

[dense violet]

"you never have to mix all your items like this in the first place
even if you do want to mix some for some convenience you'd never have to mix more than a handful of items and a couple smart splitters fixes that"

[peak wasp]

idk, i wanted to see if i could do it?, and i did?. It means I can be lazy when i was building new things, and join them up to the storage easier, while i figure said new thing out, optimize etc

[dense violet]

ok that's a fair answer. 'Because it's fun' can't be argued with

[peak wasp]

it started as a small structure used to split things from an outer production line, cause i didnt want to have to run 3 or 4 lines of conveyers

and then kind of snowballed to "This is one single place i can easily get everything I need, I can even dump my entire inventory randomly into this single storage, and it will convey to the sorter, so everything goes to it's designated box automatically, so i can be lazy"

plus i was also hoping for a feature to be released, like some kind of machine, i could go up to, type what i wanted and how much, and it would take it from the storage to my inventory (im a bit autistic)

[dense violet]

I've seen someone create a call system w/o mods on youtube. Basically levers that sent a train to pick stuff up

[peak wasp]

yeah i stopped playing in jan of 2024, only played for like 2 months

but recently been getting a lot of satisfactory videos pop up and i felt the autistic itch

[fluid glen]

Ah, yes, a fellow member of the “Rizz em with the ‘Tism” gang

[tough hamlet]

What's good

[fluid glen]

Everything, except Stingers! 😵‍💫

[peak wasp]

fr, it made me sad to see that even after all this time, the girl i played this with is still sitting there drinking coffee feelsbadman

[zenith fractal]

the factory is growing

[tough hamlet]

Nice nice

[fluid glen]

Darn… I only ever bring my completely, industrially insane friends along to build the factory.

[peak wasp]

gonna have to put some walls up or smth

[dense violet]

alloy recipes

[polar rose]

did Satisfactory get offical controller support yet?

[outer moss]

guys help im bored what do

[shrewd palm]

factory cart racing

[zenith fractal]

fellas

I have a question, I am on the final step of making a big plubber factory with the recycled recipes. what ratio of plastic to rubber should I make to export to factories?

1 to 1 or something?

[lone widget]

is this the right place because after almost a year of not playing i went back to base game after a fresh install of windows and all new drivers and loaded up the game only to crash my pc multiple times in a row. pretty frustrating. any advice greatly apricated.
i did verify all files through steam

[lament niche]

hey how do you use the console to force satisfatory to regenerate the graphics and models? my graphis are... perma fucked up

#screenshots message

[dense violet]

depends on what recipes you use. A lot of them use far more plastic than rubber. At least the ones I like?
And by 'final steps' what bit are you on?

[zenith fractal]

for your last part of your message, the refineries to make the recycled stuff are placed. I am gonna use OC supercomputers, caterium circuit boards, either caterium computers or default computer recipe

[lament niche]

hey @white dawn your services are requested
#1428203689012760677 message

[white dawn]

Something that KYO297 does is set up the recycled loop so that it's capable of outputting either entirely rubber or entirely plastic, then just taking whatever's needed. You're building more than you need to -- by the time the oil is completely used up, a bunch of the machines in the recycling loop will have never actually produced anything 'cause they're overbuilt. But it's one solution, at least

[dense violet]

it kinda sounds like you're done done if the refineries are place already? unless you haven't put pipes and belts on?

[zenith fractal]

it's not connected yet

[white dawn]

... ?

[zenith fractal]

just thhe refineries themselves are placed

[white dawn]

I mean it looks neat but I'm not even sure what I'm looking at there. :) (And I'm far from the go-to person for debugging problems, even though I'm too loquacious)

[lament niche]

...neat?!?

it'd look neat if my save wasn't permanantly looking like a Trove bug!

[zenith fractal]

my question seems to be in need of elaboration, i meant to ask what will I need more? Plastic or rubber from this facility?

should i do half and half?

[white dawn]

I'm not even sure what a "trove bug" is. Sorry, no clue how to go about debugging that kind of thing; not a problem I've ever encountered

[white dawn]

Like it or not, you sort of already got your answer: nobody is gonna be able to tell you that

If you're uncomfortable just guessing and risking being wrong, then you probably shouldn't be "overbuilding" in the first place. :)

[dense violet]

riiiight. ok. Well... I don't know. maybe more plastic than rubber?

But I'd also set it up so you plan the connections so that you have 2 independent factories. 1 for rubber as the end product, and 1 for plastic as the end product. A lot easier to manage

[white dawn]

Or, as I suggested, you could set up the recycling loop so that it's technically capable of going either way

And then whatever ratio you do need just gets figured out over time

(Or yeah, set up independent factories, etc)

[zenith fractal]

I see

[white dawn]

Unless you're literally planning out your future factories, any overbuild is going to "go wrong" in either direction unless you're sort of unfathomably lucky

You're either going to be producing too little of something (in which case you need to make more anyway), or you produced too much of something (which, so long as you had fun doing it, isn't really a problem, but it does mean you built factory you didn't need to)

I agree that with stuff like the recycled oil loop (and, for instance, aluminum), it's often kind of easier to make a big bunch of stuff rather than a bit at a time, but if you do that, you've gotta resign yourself to the fact that you're gonna get stuff wrong

(which, again, only really means "okay, I need another factory" or "oops, I built too much," neither of which are terrible outcomes)

[zenith fractal]

oh well, I suppose if it is wrong I can sink whatever is being overproduced and turn another oil field into a hyper industrial hell hole to produce more of what I am lacking.

[white dawn]

For my 1.0 save I actually coded myself a utility to assist with expandable most-efficient-oil-loop processing; would tell me exactly what to build out to increase production of rubber or plastic from a given already-in-place setup. :D

Was a bit mad, and probably more trouble than it was worth, but was kind of fun

[zenith fractal]

but either way I am kinda proud, 2550 oil per minute is gonna be used in this project.

I placed like 72 blenders, it was fun.

I guess I will do half and half of plastic and rubber.

thanks for the suggestions lads

[viscid bobcat]

automating phase 3 is gonna break me🫠

[coarse pebble]

Are inputs on multiple input buildings (assembler for example) exclusive to only one piece of the recipe per input?

[viscid bobcat]

and then I got phase 4

to worry abouit

[dense violet]

only for fluids

as in a blender with 2 fluid inputs will only accept water in one of them

[coarse pebble]

so I could've...
sigh

I will definitely use that in the future, thanks

[dense violet]

what were you trying to do?

[coarse pebble]

I was just curious as so far I have kept the two ingredients in whatever I was assembling separate

and I couldn't get on and check right now

[dense violet]

generally this is the way to do it yes
feeding more than 1 items in 1 input is quite the challenge

[coarse pebble]

It just would have simplified the logistics of a small modular frame factory I built earlier

[dense violet]

just to clear it up, are you describing feeding multiple items into one input

or just having multiple items on one belt and using a smart splitter to feed the items to various inputs?

[coarse pebble]

Feeding multiple different items into one input. For example both the iron rods and the reinforced iron plates into one input on modular frame assembler

[dense violet]

ok so like I said, it's possible, but it does not simplify logistics

you have to design everything around doing that

it's called Single Input Sushi
I've only seen one person do it

[viscid bobcat]

I swear producing rotors never gives you clean numbers

[dense violet]

now a basic sushi belt? just multiple items on one belt using smart splitters definitely can simplify logistics

[viscid bobcat]

satisfactory calculator always gives you .33 or .67

[coarse pebble]

those are easy bro

[dense violet]

'clean' numbers don't exist. Decimals are just demals. Change your time frame and they vanish.

[grizzled ivy]

i know snutt isnt doing community stuff anymore but i feel like i havent seen jace in a while either, where has my man been

[cyan valve]

does the water tower trick works for fuels as well?

[dense violet]

Jace left a loooooooong while ago

[dense violet]

you mean provide headlift exactly like just putting a pump on ? yes

[dense violet]

just use a pump 😛

[grizzled ivy]

wait what really?

no snutt OR jace. thats whack

[white dawn]

It's not that they stopped doing community stuff and more just that they quit the job to go pursue other interests (in Jace's case primarily to chase the dream of being a solo indie dev working on his own game)

Both Jace and Snutt are still active on streaming/YouTube and even have a show thing they're doing together. No need to miss them; you can catch up with them at any time. :)

(Also, the newer community managers at CSS are lovely folks as well. ❤️ )

[earnest oak]

realistically possible to make every item at once?

[dense violet]

you kinda have to as the end space products requires most of everything under them

with a decent computer, and a lot of effort, you could probably use up half the map's resources processed to end tiers and not have a computer that is on fire at the end

Can't guarantee fps though

[earnest oak]

only half nah we milking every last rescource thats what this game for right exploitation

im making a forever world so like ya im hoping to use every single rescource in the game

[dense violet]

your computer will crash before then, even with the best private gear

[earnest oak]

trust i got that

[dense violet]

even with
meaning not even the best gear will stop that

[earnest oak]

nah i still got that until i dont

trust i got that

[dense violet]

got what?

[earnest oak]

ill put every single rescource in sinks

[dense violet]

ok if you're just sinking the ore, sure

[earnest oak]

ill go until failure

[dense violet]

as long as you're ok with being unable to complete the goal, go ham

I highly recommend you spread out your factories then

avoid signs, over clock everything, have as few objects as possible

don't have huge floating platforms

[icy jetty]

anyone that likes sky platforms but overcame that urg and somehow kep thte scenery of the planet, how did you fight that urge to make easy platforms?

[dense violet]

just build in multiple floors. Easy to have lots of space

keeps it real looking

#1427848243273797632 message

[cosmic pawn]

how many smelters is too much for optimal ingot making?

[dense violet]

no such thing

[cosmic pawn]

ah so like 9 in a line is perfectly fine?

[dense violet]

yup. belt manifolds care nothing about number of machines

as long as you have enough ppm and throughput yu're good

[cosmic pawn]

i got 4 miners pumping iron

[dense violet]

Once I have a steady supply of power shards though I over clock everything, but that's a personal choice

[cosmic pawn]

is it still fine if they all aren't pure veins?

[dense violet]

only thing that matters is raw numbers

[hard ivy]

When you have more smelters than ore

[dense violet]

if you need 1 pure node or 4 impure to get what you need? no difference

[cosmic pawn]

i got 2 impure and 2 normal going into this

[dense violet]

When you have more smelters than ore it just means you're deep in the under clocking for power efficiency zone

[dense violet]

if the numbers of ore pm you need are being met? no issue

[cosmic pawn]

so if it works it's fine

[dense violet]

the only real difference with number of nodes and clocking is a small power difference.

but it's effectively a non issue

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[cosmic pawn]

is that a common thing here?

[spice patio]

Somewhat common thing on any open Discord server.

[dense violet]

it always gets stomped fast though

[cunning glade]

For phase 4 how much of each part did u make a min

I'm assuming around 1-2 a min is plenty cuz phase 4 takes a while

[hard ivy]

The only thing you really need to automate specifically to complete phase 4 is copper powder. The rest can easily be handfed

[dense violet]

yeah basically.
I mostly just linked up the items I unlocked and automated and by the time I did that I had big buffers of everything

was probalby doing 4 or more pm of each? but it wouldn't have been sustainable

[cunning glade]

Ewwww

Handcrafting no thx

Def automating them all

I have drones no reason not too

[cunning glade]

I see

[hard ivy]

No, not handcrafting. Handfeeding machines

[cunning glade]

I will prolly do mini factorys for them just cuz that's how I like too do it

[cunning glade]

Meh even still isn't satisfying in the slightest

[hard ivy]

It's faster than automating 🤷‍♂️

[cunning glade]

I wanna connect nodes and watch it go up on its own

Faster sure but IDC for speed

Plus within the week I get my new flight pedals I will probably be playing alot of star citizen

Plus Perseus soon

We shall see if the addiction stays

Waiting for Christmas event to show my friend

[coral bough]

Copper powder????

[hard ivy]

Yes? It's a phase 4 item needed for one of the project parts

[wary perch]

Phase four should unlock eggnog for you coffee cup

[coral bough]

I've never seen coper powder before

[dense violet]

it's a later tier item used in like 1 thing

[hard ivy]

It's unlocked by Tier 8 - Particle Enrichment

[coral bough]

So for nuclear power?

[cunning siren]

Hand fed builds, yeish... 😆

[hard ivy]

No, it's for one of the project parts. And only that

[coral bough]

Ahhh alright

[cunning siren]

Particle accelerators do all sorts of things other than make boom booms

Diamonds Pasta and Crystals... and Ficsonium, but we don't talk about that 😆 Failonium

[versed mesa]

Good morning all

👍

[cunning glade]

Shhhh spoilers

I hate phase 4

I can't brainstorm well not playing the game I hate it

[hard ivy]

It is the hardest phase if you don't come prepared

[cunning siren]

I've been learning the fine art of "cheesing" in a Mk.1 double wall outlets into my blueprints, feels good

And no, I don't have any walls

[versed mesa]

How would I go about creating vertical up curvy bubble shape factories going up

People have done this in the awesome builds but not sure how

[wheat musk]

Hello everyone I’m new

[cunning siren]

Sup?

[cunning glade]

Id say I'm prepared but like normally I can brainstorm the next part I wanna automate and roughly where

I did all the milestones in phase 4 and now I'm overwhelmed with where too start I think

Plus now I'm procrastinating I think

Cuz like I wanna smoke and start playing but like not knowing what too do I don't start up the game mainly cuz I haven't smoked

[wheat musk]

I’ve never played satisfactory bc I’m on console but I’ll get my first ever play through soon😅😅

[versed mesa]

Awesome

Not long now and will drop to consoles

[wheat musk]

Yep november 4th cannot wait I’ve been waiting for years

[versed mesa]

Is a long time to wait lol

[wheat musk]

Indeed it is that’s why I’m literally buying it the second is comes avalaible

[versed mesa]

@wheat musk surprised you can't preorder

[wheat musk]

Trust me if I could I 10000 percent would right now

Currently it’s announced but no pre order yet maybe there will be soon or they might just full release to console with no pre order

[versed mesa]

Lol

[versed mesa]

I think full release with out pre

[wheat musk]

Yeah that’s what I’m assuming aswell but I’m very very excited

[versed mesa]

@wheat musk I play for you until you can lol

[wheat musk]

Awesome!!! Appreciate it

[versed mesa]

Noproblem

[wheat musk]

I seriously don’t wanna wait though like I’m counting every second

[versed mesa]

Ive got just over 400 hours in niw and had the game like a month or so now

[wheat musk]

Nice man how is it ?

[versed mesa]

Cool and gets harder specially with phases and you unlock more lol

@wheat musk when you start playing you will see how many phases there is lol

Just about to jump on now

[cunning glade]

Will cross play be real?

[versed mesa]

Idk

[cunning glade]

Ur the Xbox guy right

Ye I'll play a game with u if u want cross play or not

[versed mesa]

@cunning glade the time of silence and no comment lmao

[cunning siren]

ZOMG auto-connect only needs "belt stubs" on one side of the blueprint! 🤯... time to "fix" some blueprints

[hard ivy]

Eh, it's sometimes better to have them on both so you can initiate the connection from either side

If the stub is only on the BP that's already placed, AC doesn't work

[cunning siren]

I don't understand AND since it requires work to do something that sounds like it will break something else I guess I'll leave the blueprints as they are now with stubs on both ends 🤷

[cunning siren]

OK, it sounds like "non auto connect" planned situations can still utilize auto connect with the "double stubs"

[bold heron]

Tryed play on steamdeck, game runs ok (no clue how later)
But i found i cant save.
I click save game create a savefile whit a name, but then im kinda stuck there i can change the name but not actual save under the name.
Am i fo something wrong ?

[cunning siren]

The only few disadvantage with auto connect so far seems to be, you have to set it up in blueprints and it creates smaller segments of belts and pipes sometimes. I'm guessing that may cause issues when upgrading belts or pipes 🤔 I'll probably miss one of those stubs 😭

[cunning siren]

#1038092680493801533 <--- Try this

[bold heron]

Ty

[cunning siren]

I may also be paranoid the pipes may cause issues and manually re connect them 😆 defeating the reason for using the feature

[granite wharf]

Can’t wait for ps5 release

[cunning siren]

I'm happy such a good game is happening for console folk

I hear ps5 will get 60 FPS, that's pretty good

Mah ~10 year old video card struggles to get 60 FPS sometimes 😭

[chrome otter]

hello everyone

I played Satisfactory a bit when I had an old pc but since it didn't run any good i forgot it, now I have a good pc and want to play it again

my question is, how is it possible to have such a flat area like this?

https://images.steamusercontent.com/ugc/10791705627341578/2CEE6A992E0B3C423797277F0972315DBEF2B4EB/

I remember that it was very zig-zaggy always, ups and downs, is there a 'terraformer' tool or something?

[cunning siren]

That looks like maybe the open water areas in the NE and SE, vast oceans of flat area with virtually unlimited water for the harvesting

[leaden turret]

that's just foundations on the water

[chrome otter]

so they built a platform above the ocean?

[cunning siren]

This game encourages players to build "up" mostly AND flat oceans are also tempting areas too

[chrome otter]

and is there an approach method if I want everything in order to avoid spaghettifying?

[cunning siren]

There are people who will attempt to tell you how to play 🤷 you'll learn through trial and error mostly or you can watch some video content I suppose, maybe gain some insight on what you may enjoy

[leaden turret]

how to play: have fun

[chrome otter]

i put ~100 hours in Satisfactory but got tired of the enemies and the constant pressure of the spaghetti, will try to leave this behind, thanks!

[cunning siren]

Pre-foundations it's pretty hard to avoid 🍝, one tip is holding the CTRL key while a hologram is parallel to another input or output. It will snap it in alignment with it the best it can 🤷 not really ground breaking but does help line things up without the grid of the foundaitons

[dense violet]

mostly practice and planning. You'll get there
also you can build in multiple floors and have infinite flat space anywhere you like. Don't have to be a numpty over the ocean

[leaden turret]

there's a game option to make the enemies ignore you

[dreamy nova]

There's also a game option/mod to delete spiders entirely :D

[cunning siren]

Maybe time to start a Dune Desert playthrough 🤔 I have yet to do Grass Fields though... Hummmm

[dreamy nova]

Its all the same map btw, you can just run to that new area

[cunning siren]

I seem to like the feel of a new start and objectives, the "end game" sandbox mode does not seem to "do it" for me? IDK 🤷 I am kind of an odd player with games sometimes

I tell myself "I can always go back to the old saves" but I never do 😆

[chrome otter]

thanks for all the tips!

[void gorge]

This is so real

RPG curse especially

[stone fulcrum]

Hey everyone, I'd like to know if there is a mod out there for decoupling trains and recoupling cuz I wish this was a feature within the base game so trains would work more realistically but that's just me

[feral geyser]

I don't think you actually want that

Trains can already auto-route and timetable and path schedule and all that.

[cunning glade]

ig so lol

[hard ivy]

Yeah, even if it was a feature, I definitely wouldn't want to use it lol

[cunning siren]

Anybody else avoid walking through the swamp? As if my feet will get wet and it will be "ooogy" 😆

[cunning glade]

Would 10 turbo motors a min be overkill for personal use

I assume so

[hard ivy]

Idk, I'm making 15 💀

[sterile blade]

I try to tell myself not to do that, so that I don't have to recall my unusable pre-1.0 nuclear sushi 😭

[cunning siren]

Turbo Motors sink ok and they can be used to make BWD 🤔, with sloopage only need 2.5 /m for 10 BWD though so... yea super overkill

[reef basin]

SF is not a train simulator, what you're asking for is mostly in train sims 🙂

[finite hornet]

Paintables, beams ( all the beams ) when ?

[cunning siren]

Can I make blueprints of water extractors if it's in the water 🤔 time for SCIENCE!

[reef basin]

afaik it's not possible

[cunning siren]

Oooof

Apparently it was able to be done pre 1.0 and "now" with infinite nudge mod? 🤷 I guess I'll try some pre made blueprints and see if those work

WOH, this blueprint seems to allow infinite nudge with water extractors AND no mod installed 🤔 Wuuuuut

[strong wind]

cant wait till nov 4th

[dense violet]

because of all the gunpowder treason and plot coming?

[shy mulch]

I

I'll be happy on nov 4th because I'll only be 2 weeks away from some time off work

good enough reason for me, but what's your reason

[cunning siren]

The symmetry on fully overclocked coal gens is much more satisfying than that nasty 3:8 ratio 🤔

[zenith pecan]

That's completely broken now?

[hushed canopy]

i fixed my pipe flow problem, the 600 to 600 fuel power i got going on needed a second pipe to connect to the network at the halfway point to fix the fuel flow with the manifold setup.

[dense violet]

you can have symetric 3:8s

[dense violet]

merging 2x 600 pipes?

[zenith pecan]

Coal is very temporary, I don't put more effort than needed, often not even a building shell.

[shy mulch]

everything is temporary if you look at it that way

[hushed canopy]

600 production, 600 consumption, and i may have not fixed it it seems, the flow was better for a bit and now the last two in the 6x2 line i have going on are not being fed enough fuel again

[shy mulch]

oops replied to wrong comment

[dense violet]

having a loop isn't the only thing to think about when running 600 flow pipes

[zenith pecan]

Naa, some things stay long term, just not coal.

[shy mulch]

in your build, maybe, I kept my early coal running

[hushed canopy]

i think it might be better to have a separate supply pipe for both sides

[zenith pecan]

My coal nodes get reused after I move onto bigger power sources.

[cunning siren]

TIL: Only have to snap one water extractor to the grid and snap off the others 🤔 I was making massive underwater platforms for extractors thinking they would not snap without it 😆

[dense violet]

running 2x 300 flow pipes is easier sure.
but w/o overhead images of your set up can't really add detailed suggestions

[hushed canopy]

i can grab a ss

[hard ivy]

It's still 3:8 if you overclock the extractors too. Or 15:16 if you don't.

[dense violet]

#math-and-meta is a good channel for trouble shooting

[shy mulch]

Just stick with biomass burners, then you have no problems

[cunning siren]

Yea, I guess what I'm saying is the junction points for the extractors match the water inputs closer with a 15:16 ratio

[hushed canopy]

its in screenshots now

[cunning siren]

It looks pretyer IMO

Like this #screenshots message so pretty no water extractor gaps, noice

[spark sky]

Moving lizzard doggos can be tricky, but rewarding. #screenshots message

(There, now it's in the right channel.)

[plucky flower]

Just got my hupertube cannons up, lets go

[fallow vector]

so I'm pretty fresh to the game and I was wondering:
How many times have you guys started/rebuilt the first factory over before you got a grip on starting efficiently?

[frail sleet]

It never really stops getting better, so long as you're putting in effort to improve

but definitely at least a few 😛

[haughty torrent]

That's the thing, depending on how much of a perfectionist you are you might never stop rebuilding your factories over and over.

[fallow vector]

okay, I'm officially doomed then XD

[zenith pecan]

I've demo'd & rebuilt so many times as I'e learned kessons from earlier failures.

[frail sleet]

I'd advise to just take it one step at a time, do your thing, move onto the next thing while keeping lessons in mind.

[fallow vector]

aye aye captain

also just unlocked coal, so that's gonna be interesting

[dense violet]

well, rebuilding yoru initial factory after coal power is pretty normal, automated power is a game changer, you get out of hte pre tutorial

after that, well the first times I restarted the whole game a few times, at tiers 4 5 and 7. Really helped getting the base skills down

[dense violet]

ah so you're out of hte pre tutorial 🙂

[verbal radish]

@zockomat hey ! How do you don’t have fog ?

[fallow vector]

if only I could figure out where the hell I am on the interactive map.
But finding my save in a linux/proton version is kinda tricky

[verbal radish]

@gaunt saffron

[gaunt saffron]

uhh

is it maaybe the biome?

[fallow vector]

I started at first spawn location and then went to a cliff with a bunch of normal nodes... kinda liked the view

[dense violet]

personally I would avoid the online map if you're new. Complete 100% exploration spoiler

[gaunt saffron]

#screenshots maybe its the distance?

[verbal radish]

Oh okay because if i desactivate the fog in the console the game is horrible

[fallow vector]

I don't mind resource spoilers. I wanna see the map itself

as in the landscape

[gaunt saffron]

Global Illumination is off, maybe that?

[verbal radish]

I need to Check !

[hard ivy]

r.fog 0 in the console or mods

[verbal radish]

Yes i already did it but when i do it the game look like nothing

[gaunt saffron]

Did it work?

I use direct x12

(forced)

if that impacts shadows

I mean fog

[spark sky]

Starting efficiently? What's that?

I restarted a few times in a couple different areas, finally decided on one and went on from there. Last year's Ficsmas came early in my playthrough, I spent most of my time and effort on that stuff, while it was available. I built a display of the stuff I was able to make and now that game is my permanent game. I'm not sure efficient is what you can call my stuff, I'm currently preparing to work on Phase 2, but I did most of the manufacturing of stuff by hand (watched a lot of YouTube videos while waiting for stuff to get through crafting).

Now I've been building various iterations of biomass and coal power plant blueprints in creative, trying to decide which ones to build in my game.

[fallow vector]

when I have to hand craft a bunch of stuff I just put something on my spacebar and do something else XD

like cooking food or doing chores

[spark sky]

You don't have to put something on your spacebar, just tap it and things will keep crafting until they run out of materials.

[fallow vector]

😮

thanks

[spark sky]

I've seen people in YouTube videos try holding the mouse for hours to hand-craft.

[fallow vector]

yeah... kinda hard with a vertical mouse XD

[spark sky]

I want to get a trackball, I keep running into my keyboard or ending up off the mousepad.

[fallow vector]

you have a mousepad?

[spark sky]

You don't?

[fallow vector]

nope

[spark sky]

I've had mousepads for decades.

[fallow vector]

they'd just be in the way for me

I also art on that desk

however, that's gettin a biiit off-topic XD

[spark sky]

Well, it depends on the surface of the desk. Some desk surfaces are inconsistant and would affect mouse movement consistancy.

Anyway...

@fallow vector Did you see my doggo kennel? I recommend you find doggos because of the items they give you. I was able to research geothermal power before Phase 2 because of the materials I got from them that I couldn't craft yet.

[fallow vector]

not yet, I was wondering how you can tame them

[jade swift]

Hey

[spark sky]

Drop a paleberry on the ground, close enough for them to see it. Once they come eat it, they will follow you anywhere (well, within reason).

[fallow vector]

^o^ that sounds so cute

[spark sky]

They won't jump too high or off of something that's too high, I've had to build ramps in some places to get them home.

[fallow vector]

too bad you can't just pick em up or put on a leash to take a walk

that would be kinda cool, if you could take a walk with them so they can dig up stuff while you're out and about

[spark sky]

And be careful how you bulld and enclosure, they can fall through foundations (or the world) sometimes, when meeting a barrier.

[fallow vector]

okidoki

[spark sky]

@fallow vector #screenshots message

I have a blueprint for the doggo kennel on the right.

(Oh, I have to do a little work on it, I added signs and lights in my game, but not to the blueprint, yet.)

[fallow vector]

I'd feel bad giving them such little space ._.

[spark sky]

The interesting thing is, they seem to like the windows and the little access hole.

If you leave them in a big open area, it's difficult to keep track of which ones you've collected stuff from, as they keep milling around.

(I tried that, once I got more than 8, it was time to separate them.)

Hm, we could use a wall with a door and a conveyor hole in it. That would make for a great kennel wall.

@fallow vector I tried a number of ways to confine the doggos so they were easy to access and didn't wander off, this kennel idea turned out to be the best.

Once they decide they can look out the conveyor hole and see me when I walk by, they're all content.

So far I have found 24 of the little buggers.

Though, I think a 25th fell through the world.

[fallow vector]

nuuu

so he a void doggo now

[flat girder]

anyone really good at train signals that could help me?

[spark sky]

Supposedly there's someplace you can upload your game file and move them back to where you can get at them, but I'm not ready to try that.

[white grotto]

whats faster fully overclocked mk1 miner or a normal mk2 miner?

[dense violet]

!wikisearch Miner

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Miner

[dense violet]

the wiki is your friend

[flat girder]

mk1 overclocked is 25% faster

[white grotto]

alright thanks

[white grotto]

didnt know it had a wiki

[hard ivy]

Not sure why you're even comparing those two

[spark sky]

If you're going for efficiency, you should take power consumption into consideration, as well. How much more power does the Mk1 take to get the results when fully overclocked compared to a Mk2 when overclocked to give the same (or better) output?

[dense violet]

power production is so simple and abundant it effectively makes no difference which miner you use to get the number you need

[spark sky]

Personally, I'm not too worried about how much output the miners do, if they are putting out more than I can use, well, that's just tough.

[dense violet]

even overclocking every machine in a system fully only increases total power demand by 1/3.

[spark sky]

Ah, that's good to know.

(But, if you're already close to matching your power generation, you need to work on power.)

[hard ivy]

Not exactly 1/3 but thereabouts (34.31%)

[spark sky]

I have to watch the valleys of my geothermal output.

I guess power lines, unlike pipes, can carry however much current that you can produce.

[hard ivy]

The only limit is how much you're able to dump into them

[spark sky]

Yeah, that part is unrealistic, but then it's a game.

Anyway, back to my doggos. 4 more to move.

[hard ivy]

Which I think is somewhere on the order of 250 PW?

Without mods

very theoretically

[reef basin]

depends wdym by "efficiently"

[shy mulch]

I want to find the most efficient way to increase my inefficiency

[spark sky]

If I understand you correctly, you want to increase inefficiency? You should watch Let's Game it Out's videos on Satisfactory.

[shy mulch]

I was just trying to make greeny bluescreen. But yeah, big fan of LGIO

[spark sky]

I think he tries to break every game he can.

[shy mulch]

Someone has to

[spark sky]

One interesting thing about his videos on Satisfactory, though, he started his world early on, before 1.0, and everything pretty much still works, which is impressive and says a lot about how Coffee Stain has developed the game.

(Comparing that to some other games I've played, where a lot of new stuff has required a complete restart from scratch.)

[shy mulch]

Yeah, it's the difference between quality programmers who understand what they are doing, vs vibe coded bullshit

[spark sky]

Viva la Dirt League has some videos that touch on that topic (even one on releasing a trailer for a game that no one has been working on at all, to get pre-orders).

"Is this in-game footage?" "There is no game."

[shy mulch]

That drives me nuts. The economy is geared towards everyone being in debt. I try my best to push back on it. If I don't have the cash in my bank to do something, then I don't do it. Mortgage is the only exception I've made

[spark sky]

Yeah, but now we're way off-topic.

I've forgotten how to change which toolbar is at the bottom of the screen. It's on 10 right now, and has an emote on it.

Somehow I think in the dark I hit a random key somewhere and now I don't know how to get it back.

[dense violet]

hold alt

and mousewheel

[spark sky]

Ah, thanks.

[unkempt blade]

Yeah and have you ever tried to buy a new cyberwagon from ficsit? Total scam, the 6mo old ones are like 60% below msrp

[leaden turret]

increase mouse sensitivity, move mouse shorter distance

[leaden turret]

VDL Satisfactory satire, when 🤔

[spark sky]

I tried that last Ficsmas, got in, had no charging station, the thing wouldn't go anywhere and wouldn't let me out, either.

[spark sky]

No, just game development satire in general.

[leaden turret]

(referring to their game dev / tech store / pubg / wow / ark satire)

[spark sky]

Yeah, I don't think they have done anything with regard to Satisfactory (or any factory game, for that matter).

But just the idea that a company might put out a trailer for a game that's got no code, no resources, no one's been working on it at all, and then ask for pre-orders... It makes you wonder how many companies have tried that.

[leaden turret]

looks at history of kickstarter scams

[shy mulch]

isn't that most of the YC business model 😄

[white grotto]

is there a creative mode?? i wanna test stuff out

[hard ivy]

How are you even playing this game with only one hotbar???

[dense violet]

sure? but.. you know anything you can test and use now you could just.. test in your world. and then you have it

[cursive totem]

not if you dont have it unlocked yet

plus flymode etc

[dense violet]

"you know anything you can test and use now you could "

[white grotto]

^^^

[dense violet]

people apparently can't read

[cursive totem]

never have

[dense violet]

so test it when you unlock it

[hard ivy]

Yes, advanced game settings

[white grotto]

was giving an answer that hard?

[spark sky]

I want to build something, I hit Q.

[cursive totem]

people also cant just answer straight instead of questioning the question itself apparently 😛

[dense violet]

"sure? but."

do you skip over most of what is written?

[cursive totem]

of course, do you have any idea how hard reading is?

😭

[dense violet]

apparently very difficult

[cursive totem]

took me years to learn!

[wild lotus]

Guys, does fuel type change the speed of the drone?

[white grotto]

wouldve been easier if it made sense

[spark sky]

I do recommend starting a creative world for that purpose, you can place a lot of foundations, then put up multiple blueprint designers so you can put together multi-blueprint designs (side-by-side so you can see where stuff should connect).

[white grotto]

where do u get blueprint designs?

[spark sky]

You don't have to wait in your main game to use those blueprints, either, even if you don't have the larger blueprint designers unlocked in your main game, as long as you have the reqauired materials.

You make blueprint designs.

But some YouTubers also provide blueprints they have made.

[shy mulch]

I get that everyone plays the game differently, do what makes you happy etc., but I do wonder where the enjoyment comes for people who skip the entire game and use mods/creative to get around every challenge/puzzle

[white grotto]

oh okay

[dense violet]

it was pretty clear. Try re reading things

[cursive totem]

some challenges are not fun

[hard ivy]

Some people don't like certain challenges. For example, I've never played Factorio with enemies on

[cursive totem]

yeeessss ⬆️

[white grotto]

has anyone played star technology mc?

[shy mulch]

both fair points, and I absolutely agree, play the game, find a challenge you don't enjoy, use a way around it
but there seems to be a lot of people who download the game and immediately want to start modding, asking about QOL stuff etc., just play the game?

[cursive totem]

i guess thats different for everyone. some people also just already know what they (dont) like beforehand

i for one played it vanilla once, and now i know what i want to change and mod it that way to be as i like it

[shy mulch]

you played it vanilla once, that makes you not the target of my complaint 🙂

[cursive totem]

true - but eg for factorio i disabled enemies right from the start

because i really dont like even the idea of it

[mortal ginkgo]

This game still got some issues that screams "Mod, fast." such as blueprints.

[cursive totem]

howver its slowly growing on me. maybe when i have a group to play with its easier to manage

[shy mulch]

I've got an unusually strong dislike for modding games in any way. If I don't like the game the way the developers released it, then I'll just play a different game

[mortal ginkgo]

The mod that allows one to create blueprint from the "remove tool selection" almost replaces what the blueprint preparation building does.

And some people likes the game so much that they rather play it modded.

[spark sky]

Here is an example of something I was designing in my creative world. #screenshots message

You will have to copy your blueprints from one saved game directory to another to use them in that game. The path is %AppData%\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\SavedGames\blueprints\

From there, pick the saved game directory for the game you created (and saved) the blueprint in, copy both the .sbp and .sbpcfg file for the blueprint(s) you want to use, then paste them into the other saved game directory and they will show up under Blueprints when building.

(The tab at the top of the build menu.)

[unkempt blade]

I get the appeal of the sandbox portion of the game but if I just want to play in creative mode and make fancy stuff I think there are games that do purely that part better

[spark sky]

Well, if just having a place to do creative stuff is your thing, then probably, but if your goal in creative is to experiment with blueprints so you can set a style for a factory or other build that you intend to use over and over, I think that is okay in Satisfactory. I built some power poles of my own, for instance, then I saw a video of what someone else did to combine power, water, conveyor belts and street lights into one logistics pole and decided to do some of those, too.

[cursive totem]

well, the "different game" is that game, with some tweaks

if you cant tell, i am a very "death of the author" kinda guy 😄

i bought the game, so i will do whatever i want with it

i really dislike how closed modern games are. it completely destroys the creativity of the players by locking everyone into the same "experience". games as a service is a scourge for players, even the ones who dont even want to use mods

also; it artificially elevates the developers to some ideoligical pedestal, as if their vision for the game is the one truth, and no one is allowed to question or modify it. when in reality, they are just humans like us and make mistakes that so often have been fixed by modders, even going as far as sometimes bringing those fixes back into the mainline of the game

and at the end of the day, modding doesnt take anything away from people not wanting to use them. it can only add to making the game more interesting, more accesible, more successful

[unkempt blade]

Yeah! Praise the great creator[s]. The all knowing and all awesome gods of satisfactory

[mortal ginkgo]

"if you dont play the game like I do, you are wrong" mentality that only got out of control with souls like community 😛

[cursive totem]

omg dont get me started on that folk 💀

[mortal ginkgo]

Someone can mod ADA's voice to a cute anime girl for all I care

The only thing that would bother me is that the person didn't share where they got the mod from.

[mortal ginkgo]

Tell them "Malenia is a terrible boss design." and they will rage endlessly with no stop. Then they suddenly shut up when I say "I beaten her 3 times, one with spirit summon, other one with a magic-mix build, and other only by melee. I still think she sucks hard."

[unkempt blade]

On the one hand people should play the game however if fun for them. On the other hand if you're not using factory carts as the primary logistical solution you're a blasphemer and might get burned at the stake or thrown into the pond when the great witch trials start up

[mortal ginkgo]

I can't fight againt this. Carts are too OP.

[unkempt blade]

I think I'm in mindspace of there not really being anything wrong with mods but especially for creative games what usually makes them interesting for me is working within limitations to do what I want to do not throwing out limits and doing "anything"

[shy mulch]

You're wrong in a different way to the way I'm wrong. Therefore wrong, and all of three. Covfefe

[unkempt blade]

for games that are less creative gameplay a large part of mods feel more like power fantasy stuff because the difficulty level just isn't consistent with the base game

[mortal ginkgo]

What comes in the end is, the person paid the same price as you did. He can use the CD of a game to play it or use it to test how strong it is against hammer hits for all one cares.

If it ain't competitive, simply let everyone yolo.

If a game is easier to mod, that means modders will work on it, modders will talk about it, and more people will buy the game, to mod it or just play it.

Thats why, Skyrim being so popular despite being an ultra meh game.

[unkempt blade]

another game I've only played vanilla 😆

It was fun for a playthrough/to experience the environment and story stuff but I have no desire to like... mod in better magic or something and play it again

[mortal ginkgo]

Regardless, modding is the norm now. I saw some art from eastern side about Satisfactory where the model of the player was a curvy female instead of what we have.

I loved it.

I wouldn't mind having that in game too despite that I hardly use anything that shows the model. Heck I dont even use hypertubes.

[unkempt blade]

I guess I also played oblivion and some of the older games in that series so I'm not sure it even felt like a meh game at release, people just haven't let it go for over a decade and some parts held up better than other

[mortal ginkgo]

Eh. Dont wanna go further off topic. There are 34958340958390485930845038509384590834095 amount of youtube videos about the topic anyway. Even my mom made a video I am sure.

[feral geyser]

I've seen that video

The one with your mom 😏

[unkempt blade]

she made some good points about the vehicle path recorder being fun overall but a little dated for the UI compared to trains or drones

[feral geyser]

Oh. We saw different videos then.

[mortal ginkgo]

***BRO HEADSHOT NOSCOPED IN A GAME WITH NO GUNS BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 ***

[mortal ginkgo]

I love this game's path recorder. One of the times I recorded 2 Beans were literally on the way. Like both of them at the same time.

[feral geyser]

We got a rebar gun and a rifle, that's all I need

[mortal ginkgo]

I was like... brotherman, now I know why people mod Beans out of the game.

Listen, Beans are cool, until they aren't.

[unkempt blade]

so more on topic, semi-recently someone was in here talking about this mod that added like a space-plane mod for satisfactory where you could like fly around and blow up factory stuff

[mortal ginkgo]

was it an idea or an actual mod?

[unkempt blade]

which great, we added something to the game and if it makes people happy that's awesome

[feral geyser]

It's probably one of Andre Aquila's mods

Which is gross

[unkempt blade]

but also it didn't feel at all in the same design spirit as the rest of the game

[feral geyser]

90% of his mods are either broken, cheats, or just plain stupid.

And yes, I'm hatin'

[reef basin]

90% of all mods are that

[unkempt blade]

so again, people should play however is fun but at some point it feels like you're not really looking for "satisfactory with mods" but you're actually looking for a space battle game or something

[feral geyser]

I was gonna do the Trump "WRONG" gif

[cunning siren]

Dune start has massive amounts of shrooms 🤔

[shy mulch]

myceliatastic

[unkempt blade]

Found it, you got the right guy 😆 https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/sbv78a/spaceship_wip_mod/

[feral geyser]

Called it

[cursive phoenix]

so im in tier 8 rn, do yall reckon 30 radio units per min is good enough?

[cyan valve]

and heres me who enjoys building factories 1 by 1 without utilizing blueprints 🙂 the joy of clicking

[feral geyser]

Oh yeah, that'll do

[cursive phoenix]

not that i dont have enough later on?>

[sterile blade]

Yes, it could not survive the change in recipes

[zenith pecan]

😞

[cunning siren]

If carpal tunnel wasn't a thing, I would be right there with you

[cursive phoenix]

is the instant plutonium cell alt recipe good?

[lament niche]

hey if I have nuclear power plants from U2 that are still somehow running, should I touch them at all

[mortal ginkgo]

Long Answer: Just restart the game bro, it got changes and things that you can love to have and make sure everything works properly.

Short Answer: Don't think so

[clever field]

allumina sucks

the game stops being fun when you get to allumina

[feral geyser]

Whaaaaattt, that's when it starts to get real fun

[clever field]

sure, if you like flushing out lines because they flood, or not getting enough water

[feral geyser]

Just say you're not good at math, bro.

Angry wall incoming

[clever field]

would you like to see my bad math?

[feral geyser]

I love bad math, lemme see

[lament niche]

I mean I have everything that's available even in U11,

[cyan valve]

i built another coal power plant just to deal with water overflow lol

[lament niche]

also, need opinions
#screenshots message

[feral geyser]

That is one way

[cyan valve]

adding valves to make sure water flows in one direction only

[feral geyser]

Oh no 😳 you said the V word

[feral geyser]

That's a lovely complex you got going there.

[clever field]

#1428405562042744994 message for bad math and screenshots

[tribal pelican]

no one talking about the ui that says auto collecting leaves on the bottom left of the stream

[white dawn]

There's various ways of dealing with the water byproducts in Aluminum setups.

The most straightforward way would be to just take the byproduct/waste water and use it up in some other process. Some folks like using Wet Concrete for that because it's simple and buffing up concrete production is rarely a bad idea

The most difficult way is to try and merge the waste/recycled back into the same pipes delivering the fresh. I personally wouldn't recommend doing it that way at all (it can be done, and done reliably, but IMO it's not worth the bother)

[mortal ginkgo]

I second above. If you are using Molded Beam / Pipe recipes, they ask for ridiculous amount of Concrete.

[white dawn]

My own favorite way is to send it back to earlier steps, but keep the fresh + recycled lines totally separate, underclocking (or overclocking) as necessary so that the numbers work out

For instance: #1397699649493536859 message (that may show up as #unknown since it's in a #1038092680493801533 thread)

[mortal ginkgo]

Real alpha males package all water before sending around, package even the output water and use priority merger. 100% works.

[lament niche]

speaking of questions and help, need help prettying up my factory. #1428411146955919383 message

[lament niche]

real

[mortal ginkgo]

Listen, I really like the idea.

Because water can't ever get stuck.

[lament niche]

no, I'm saying you're correct

[mortal ginkgo]

❤️

[white dawn]

Water also can't get stuck if you keep the fresh/recycled totally separate. :)

[lament niche]

yes it can

[mortal ginkgo]

ıt actually can.

[white dawn]

real alpha males introduce unnecessary complexity. :)

[mortal ginkgo]

assuming one that does not constantly sink all the products

[lament niche]

@white dawn incorrectly correcting other people ./s

[white dawn]

Not if you've clocked everything properly, it can't (barring, of course, issues with piping itself, but you'd have that anyway after unpackaging)

I mean, sure, if your input/output rates don't match, then stuff can munge up, but it just won't happen if you've clocked the buildings properly and matched input/output

[mortal ginkgo]

but PACKAGERS ARE COOL OK

RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-

[white dawn]

Sure, not saying that you can't package + priority merge

But that's far from the simplest solution. :)

[mortal ginkgo]

We are not here for simple solutions.

[white dawn]

#math-and-meta message etc

[mortal ginkgo]

We are here for ultimate alpha musclinity of a male.

[feral geyser]

Mixing fresh and waste isn't so bad if you are careful

[mortal ginkgo]

What if I am not careful?

[feral geyser]

Then it is bad

[white dawn]

ie: wasting effort on unnecessary production steps just because you think it looks cool. :)

[feral geyser]

Can't you read?

[mortal ginkgo]

Yesno 😭

[white dawn]

To be clear, I'm not trying to convince you to stop packaging+prio-merging your fluid; I'm mostly just responding to the cringy "alpha male" stuff

It's just not a "better" solution. You might like it, and that's fine, but adding in two extra layers of processing doesn't make it better. :)

[mortal ginkgo]

No need to response to cringy joke either.

I personally would just tell people to wet concrete it to send it to other places or just sink if cant bother

Obviously noone gonna package water

[feral geyser]

The only alpha I recognize is Alfa Romeo

[mortal ginkgo]

But I find it... interesting

[white dawn]

Mm, jokes are sometimes hard to intuit over text, apologies if I misread the tone. :)

[mortal ginkgo]

Its ok, I come from an era of age when everything in internet should be considered joke first, serious later.

People in internet cant even get "alpha male" joke sometimes and go "atchuallly mmmmmh player is female in this game mmmmmhgghghg 🤓 "

I am like... "brotherman..."

and they go "did you just assume my gender" and go outside and feel sad. There were happier times before. 😭

[white dawn]

Oh, I did too, but (waves hand at the real world). 'fraid my humor detectors have atrophied quite a bit in the face of unrelenting horrors everywhere. Alas!

[hard ivy]

I managed to get a correctly built split system to deadlock, so, no, it absolutely can

[mortal ginkgo]

Sure, let me clarify, feel free to yolojoke on all stuff I say

[lament niche]

uh, I do. Not having to deal with headlift is freaking amazing

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, packager solves a lot of stuff also you dont need to resupply it packagers

in the end problem is pipe system in this game

I rather see packagers on belts other than pipes whenever possible so I get less headache myself

[lament niche]

also still waiting on opinions for #1428411146955919383 message

[feral geyser]

In fairness, it's pretty realistic, cuz fluids are actually trickier to manage than solids irl too.

[lament niche]

cries in pneumatics

[feral geyser]

Wooow

Replies to me. But has me blocked so I can't react 😒

Imagine blocking me

[lament niche]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-blow-kiss-pretty-girl-smile-gif-17311523

[mortal ginkgo]

It is pretty enough for what you can do in that space. It is really hard to make something pretty after it is done or in a really tight place with other stuff. Like check this out: This is my design for 16 silly coal gens with road going between.

#design-and-architecture message

This game takes A LOT of space if you want something to be prettier and I slightly dislike it for it.

[lament niche]

no, I want it prettier

[mortal ginkgo]

You dont have enough space to make it prettier.

There might be better ways than I know tho'.

[mortal ginkgo]

Problem is, fluid dynamics dont make sense in this game tobegin with

Its pretending to be tryharding realism and there isn't away to debug it.

[feral geyser]

It's BeCaUsE tHe GaMe Is InSiDe A sImUlAtIoN, sO iT'S hArD tO sImUlAtE jUsT lIkE iN rEaL lIfE, iT'S a ReAlIsTiC sImUlAtIoN

[mortal ginkgo]

ok grandpa, time to sleep

[feral geyser]

BACK IN MY DAY, THE INTERNET USED TO COME IN THE MAIL

[mortal ginkgo]

I remember my 56kb days , thank you

[feral geyser]

AND THERE WAS A BOOK THAT THEY SENT TO EVERYONE'S FRONT DOOR THAT HAD EVERYONE'S PHONE NUMBER AND ADDRESS IN IT

AND LAMPWICKS USED TO COST A PENNY FROM THE GENERAL STORE

[mortal ginkgo]

ok calm down 😛

[lament niche]

why are you past tensing this

they still do this. those books are good for killing mosquitos and spiders and earwigs

[feral geyser]

Do they?

I haven't received a phone book in at least a decade or so

[lament niche]

that's because it's opt in instead of opt out now

[feral geyser]

Ahhh, makes sense

[tropic juniper]

the fact that phone books existed and were a normal thing is exactly why i think modern "privacy laws" are just social media lobbyists conditioning the public to think that the dread they feel about losing all online privacy isn't something they need to actually worry about.

[shy mulch]

I used to deliver phone books, was an awesome gig! In the late 90s
Once per year, some dude would just deliver 2 pallets of them in my driveway, and I'd have a big list of streets, had to put 1 in every door in each street on the list, took several days but the pay was amazing at the time

For a kid who had just learned to drive, it was a great excuse to drive around a lot with nobody bothering me 😄

[unkempt blade]

I'd take back phonebook-era telemarketers in exchange for the absolute tidal wave of robo calls and spam texts my cellphone gets

[shy mulch]

The world is a different place now 🙁

[sick falcon]

whats the point of the water (pure) deposits

[reef basin]

to... give you water?

[tropic juniper]

lots of water

[midnight fog]

If the ocean isnt enough then you use that

[languid anvil]

THE WEIRD ELEPHANT TICK GREY ANIMAL KEEPS GETTING ON THE TOP FLOOR OF MY WIP FACTORY

and i have to constantly delete the flooring under him to get him out

this mf is rage baiting me so hard

is there any way i can get rid of this thing without blowing up my entire factory

[tropic juniper]

you can just murder it

[white dawn]

Your weapons/explosives/etc don't actually affect any factory buildings, btw

You could carpet the whole thing with nuke nobelisks and the factory would continue on regardless

[languid anvil]

how

[white dawn]

(I mean, within the bounds of whatever happens to your FPS when carpeting the factory with nuke nobelisks)

[languid anvil]

why do i feel like this is bait

[tropic juniper]

a heavy injection of damage

[languid anvil]

all the foundation and walls will just stay?>

[white dawn]

Beans have a high HP count, but they can be killed. Even just prodding it with the opening xeno-zapper will eventually kill them

[midnight fog]

Yes, you cant damage ficist properties yet

[white dawn]

It's not, honestly. If you don't believe me, can just spam a few production machines away from your factories and try it

[tropic juniper]

i usually take them down early on by swording them a bunch

[white dawn]

Explosives only damage foliage + fauna

(well, and pioneers. :D And the destructible terrain that's intended to be weak to explosives)

[languid anvil]

i kept hitting it with the basher, and bro just floated off the top

and ran away

[white dawn]

In the end there's no permanent solution; Factory Inspector Beans will end up respawning eventually even if you do kill 'em (at least in the vailla game. Could be there's mods to deal with it more permanently)

But individual beans can definitely be driven away or killed

[languid anvil]

i dont mind their existence

i do mind him spawning on the top of my wip, and forcing me to constantly take time away to shoo him away

[tropic juniper]

they should make it so deconstruction tool "deconstructs" fauna

[feral geyser]

Don't kill beans 🥺

[feral geyser]

It's called a rifle lmao

[mortal ginkgo]

no need to add "yet" to that

[languid anvil]

ive killed everything

except beans i didnt know they could be killed i just thought they're indestructable

[white dawn]

Nah, just real high HP, is all

[feral geyser]

I killed one one time and ADA said, "I liked you better before you did that."

Honestly... same, ADA, same...

[languid anvil]

ive accidentally killed a lizard doggo before, never went back to an older save so quickly

[mortal ginkgo]

so problem with beans is that, instead of not spawning, their spawning code checks for Z location until it can.

I am very sorry to say that, until you kill them, they will always be on top when you go away and come back etc. you will at least have a few days of relief after killing them.

Other option is modding them out. I humbly think they look stupid and doesn't really fit the world by any means

[languid anvil]

nah it's not that big a deal lol

[tropic juniper]

they functionally provide nothing to the game except for displaying how good the unreal engine is at clipping and collision glitches

[languid anvil]

what if i wanted to do a little bounce

on a moving animal

[tropic juniper]

i feel like they were a place holder asset that just got left

[white dawn]

But who else is gonna give my factory a good inspection?

[mortal ginkgo]

I started to slightly go "dislike route" with them since they are messsing with path recording alot...

[tropic juniper]

piders

[mortal ginkgo]

you can go to SCIM and add other monsters :3

[cunning siren]

Caterium resarch unlocks some alt recipes in phase 1 right?

Or is that just Quartz?

[white dawn]

Unreliable, since they won't come back after I give them a little xeno-greeting. :D

[feral geyser]

Probably just Cat Wire

[mortal ginkgo]

dont kill the inspectors then!

[white dawn]

True, true

[feral geyser]

SpongeBob reference? Lmao

[mortal ginkgo]

nope but I take it

[white dawn]

I don't really watch streamers of any sort, but I did watch a bunch of edited Jace playthrough videos; was always amusing when he was just carrying on building factories while occasionally dodging stinger attacks

[limpid cairn]

but ada doesnt like you as much as before when you do it

[tropic juniper]

ada doesn't care about local fauna at all

[feral geyser]

brother

[cunning siren]

I forgot where SAM is for Dune start 😆, ||I know there is a north one in the caves|| I think the south one is closer but I don't know where it is exactly 😢

Giga ladder parachute strats pretty good

[tranquil maple]

what south one? the one in the titan forest?

Its like on a road down the cliffs

Southern area I think

[cunning siren]

I'm doing a phase 1 turtle so, no jetpack 😆

[ashen stream]

is there any use for assembly parts outside of, well, project assembly ?

[tranquil maple]

then the north caves are prolly ur best bet, go to the path in between the cliffs, you should see the cave entrance on the left cliff

[wicked nacelle]

Pasta yes. Otherwise just coupons

[ashen stream]

pasta ?

[tranquil maple]

VERY late game stuff, but other than that no

[wicked nacelle]

However each tier elevator parts require previous tier so don’t stop making them. Just bank them

[ashen stream]

well im on phase 2 thanks i can avoid automating it

[ashen stream]

oh.

[tranquil maple]

lol

[wicked nacelle]

And it requires a lot more of them 🙂