satisfactory

[pale dew]

idk if satis is even 3 years old but yk

[leaden turret]

it's not.

it's older

[pale dew]

alr

theres a reddit thread from 1 year ago

[coral oar]

too high settings maybe?

4K too much perhaps....

[pale dew]

might be

yk maybe just hard restart pc?

not the drive ofc

[coral oar]

also did once

and it crashed after i set it to low

[pale dew]

you mean that by turing it off or

cuz usually when youre turning off pc it goes into a "sleep state"

And isnt actually turned off

[coral oar]

I always turn it off, no idle time

i could get in game with -vulkan

IF it does anything, yeah idk

[pale dew]

atp i cant help you

no idea

[coral oar]

i should have gotten that used 4090....

so much trouble

[pale dew]

im running the game on a 2060

70 C

[coral oar]

was not in full screen either. hmmm

idk, no crash YET

so perhaps it's fixed for now

[peak wasp]

question for you guys

is it wrong to build a space for my friend to work with.

the guy was building on dirt in his section of the map

#screenshots message

I built him this so he has some space to really work

[pale dew]

no, but a sign with the word "monkey zoo" should be near the entrance

or any road leading to that place

[pale dew]

Remember, anything you do is good as long as it benefits ficsit (and humanity too ig)

[coral oar]

played for 10 mins, then crashed again

[pale dew]

DAmn man

idk how to help you anymore

or atleast i dont have any ideas

gl tho

[unkempt blade]

Maybe it depends on your friends but since I do mostly MP saves I'll just say there's a big tone difference between helping someone learn to play "better" or collaborating on a build vs enforcing your own preferences without any discussion. I'd talk with them if you want it to continue being an MP save

[versed mesa]

Hello all

What a day ive had playing the game lol

Ive been doing extras for a factory that i build and wanted to produce batteries and or my liquid pain 8n my ass lmfao

Not sorted it yet came off to sleep and rest

[cosmic pawn]

how can i make the truck stop only put a single item on a conveyor and any others on another

[versed mesa]

Unsure my self

[unkempt blade]

truck station => conveyor => smart splitter => multiple outputs

[cosmic pawn]

do i have access to the smart splitter?

[unkempt blade]

if you don't you would unlock it in the MAM

[versed mesa]

Has anyone tried using AI images for build ideas in game ?

[cosmic pawn]

what would it be under?

[unkempt blade]

caterium

[cosmic pawn]

oh i can use that now can't i

i think there was some nearby

[unkempt blade]

I try to stay away from AI except for work-related stuff and I really only use it there because the current software engineering job market is pushing it so hard 😆

[versed mesa]

Lol

[cosmic pawn]

graphical jobs using ai for marketing be like

[unkempt blade]

the founders I work with love it but it's just for their linkedin slop so the image is basically just there to draw attention not mean anything 😆

[versed mesa]

@unkempt blade I try to use grok for first time earlier to see if it show me any ideas lol

[leaden turret]

who needs AI when you have #design-and-architecture and https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/

[versed mesa]

Yeah i know I dont want to steal lol

[leaden turret]

you don't want to steal but you think using a tool based on massive copyright infringement is a good idea? 😛

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[leaden turret]

[rick & morty voice]: that's just stealing with extra steps

[unkempt blade]

My main concern with using it more actively is there seems to be evidence that it kind of inhibits learning + causes your existing abilities to rot and I'd rather not just be a prompt jockey when the bubble at least partially pops

[polar leaf]

💀

[polar leaf]

is it rick or morty's voice

[cosmic pawn]

what color is caterium depots so i can look up for any

found one

[spark ruin]

post crash note and stuff in #1038092680493801533

[cosmic pawn]

i just met the radioactive animal thing

i didn't last long

[polar leaf]

whyd u kill my pet bro

[cosmic pawn]

i didn't kill him

[polar leaf]

RIP

[cosmic pawn]

he killed me

[polar leaf]

ah I read wrong

[deft wagon]

Would i use a manifold or load balancer sending fuel rods to reactors?

[cosmic pawn]

do tractors take any damage if i just drive them off a cliff

[deft wagon]

Unless you fling them into the void they'll be fine

[cosmic pawn]

ok i got my stuff back

the whole area is now radioactive

i just wanted a purple slug man

im glad animals ignore you if you're in a vehicle

this part of the map is so dangerous

i found the spiders

[tribal pelican]

erm guys where can i send images i found a bug that made me invincable

[amber heath]

when do i unlock smart splitters

[hard ivy]

MAM

[amber heath]

what category

[hard ivy]

Caterium

[amber heath]

oh really?

cool

[tribal pelican]

bro i managed to become invicable how do i send image

[viscid bobcat]

perfect, now I have 18 megawatts of power production

[amber heath]

screenshots

[viscid bobcat]

how much can I make with that?

[amber heath]

nothing

[viscid bobcat]

can I automate phase 3 with that

[amber heath]

oh u mean gigawatts?

[viscid bobcat]

oh yea 18k megawatts

[amber heath]

yeah

[viscid bobcat]

ok

so I can make HMF factories, computer factories, the whole that right?

and then I get nuclear power and we're all chilling

[amber heath]

i just unlocked phase 2 my guy

[hard ivy]

that's 18 GW

[amber heath]

what did u build now?

[viscid bobcat]

Oil

[deft wagon]

You have 18GW and you havent even unlocked nuclear?

[amber heath]

make a fuel one

[viscid bobcat]

i mean i just used the pure oil nodes on the west side of the map

just one power plant

[tribal pelican]

thx bro i sent

[viscid bobcat]

I overclocked my oil extractors

and I get 1800 m cubed a minute

[deft wagon]

You'd probably survive on phase 4 with that

[viscid bobcat]

really?

[deft wagon]

I have just over 8GW and im on phase 4

[viscid bobcat]

so thats my power issues fixed for now

damn

[tribal pelican]

bro u just gotte get hit with a specific hp on a frame perfect interval

[amber heath]

you need that little?

[tribal pelican]

easy fr if it gives invincabilty

[hard ivy]

my first fuel plant was 20 GW. and I made another one making 20 GW more. still don't have nuclear unlocked

[deft wagon]

I havent started production for the space elevator parts

[deft wagon]

Im going straight to nuclear 😭

[amber heath]

i mean i only have 1.2GW but i just got phase 2 but i thought i need like 50GW for phase 4

[viscid bobcat]

the thing is I didnt even begin automating my phase 3 parts and im using up 4 gigawatts already

I dont have a train network even

[deft wagon]

I doubt you need half of that
My new reactor is gonna be doing 25GW when i get it up and running, should get me to phase 5 on its own

[viscid bobcat]

I have to basically triple my factories cuz I unlocked clocking

[amber heath]

but i feel like 8GW is mad little

i used 1GW for phase 2

[deft wagon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[viscid bobcat]

you must be insanely efficient with your builds

[deft wagon]

I've tried my best to balance all my factories

The most complex part im doing right now is either supercomputers or heavy frames

[viscid bobcat]

omg i have to revamp my entire world

to make it train compatible , prep it for phase 3 automation and compensate for clocking my miners

[unkempt blade]

anything is train compatible if you want it to be 😄

[solemn crystal]

WHAT
IM STILL ON LIKE 800MW AND IM AT PHASE 4-

[amber heath]

no u aint bro wtf

[mortal ginkgo]

no.

[viscid bobcat]

ye but it doesnt look good

[amber heath]

if so u handcrafted everything

[deft wagon]

well this is just impossible unless you make everything once at a time]

[solemn crystal]

yea its just a nonefficent chain of factories xd

[unkempt blade]

yeah but it'll look better when you wedge in a few train stations 😄

[mortal ginkgo]

bruhterman

[viscid bobcat]

no

[amber heath]

what does that mean

[viscid bobcat]

my main factory looks like a shoe box right now

[deft wagon]

you need like 3GW to automate all the phase 3 comps

[unkempt blade]

classic industrial aesthetics

[solemn crystal]

thats the thing, theyre not automated :)

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, you dont need that much if he has things clocked to 15% 😛

[viscid bobcat]

you're a sinner

[amber heath]

so u just aint playing the game bruh

[viscid bobcat]

I mean i cant even lie i did that for phase 2

[solemn crystal]

portable miners

[amber heath]

half the game is automating

[deft wagon]

FICSIT is displeased with your inefficency

[mortal ginkgo]

He is NOT automating in an AUTOMATION GAME?!?!?!??!?!?!?

[viscid bobcat]

I was really tired of phase 2

[mortal ginkgo]

WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?! WHAT IS THIS TREACHERY?!

[deft wagon]

this has gotta be ragebait

[solemn crystal]

a copious amount of portable miners

[viscid bobcat]

but phase 3 I will actually try to make my world presentable

[solemn crystal]

it kinda half is, but i just thought it would be funny

[mortal ginkgo]

you will be so surprised to know that some people actually defends using hundreds of them due to their "good output when combined in hundreds"

there are really people like that

[solemn crystal]

i have a main save that actually automates, dont worry im not that insane

[mortal ginkgo]

yes we live in a society, how did you know?

🤡

[solemn crystal]

gut feeling

[mortal ginkgo]

meanwhile I need heckloads of concrete because I use the Molded Recipes...

[solemn crystal]

oh yea i dont use alt recipies in the stupid save i have

[mortal ginkgo]

ok now that IS a crime AND a SIN .

[solemn crystal]

its just a compilation of every satisfactory sin combined into 1 flow

[mortal ginkgo]

I go sleep now. This is too much sin for me to handle even as a religious person.

[unkempt blade]

yeah and the other half is exploration but some people don't want to play the whole game 😄

[solemn crystal]

let me give you the full rundown of the sinners road

[amber heath]

tbf i dont like exploration that much

[unkempt blade]

yeah I know, I remember from earlier haha

[amber heath]

oh yeah im dumb

[mortal ginkgo]

ultra hot take, despite being hand crafted, it can get really tedious and "boring" for someone who just wants to make a factory game.

[amber heath]

i thought i remembered u

[mortal ginkgo]

especially when the Signal Thing doesn't give you an exact road to take.

but I like the world regardless, its gud.

[unkempt blade]

I'm big on jetpack parkour so I can't relate

[mortal ginkgo]

thats the problem. Most people leave the game at phase 3.

[unkempt blade]

yeah I think they make it too cheap to unlock factory carts and skatepark foundation, everyone gets those in phase 2 and then skips out at the peak of satisfactory content

[solemn crystal]

portable miners -> iron plates constructor starving -> storage that feeds absolutley nothing(i dont even use it) -> reinforced plates assembler that is starving for plates because i split all of them so its getting 1/32 plates -> everythign is made with mk2 belts -> manual input into an AWESOME SINK that i havent used a single coupon from(and i dont plan on using any), the rest is handcrafted (excluding the project parts)

[mortal ginkgo]

[unkempt blade]

truly an engineering masterpiece

[solemn crystal]

truly an inefficent waste of human being

anyway i got my jetson orin nano working today so atleast i can look forward to that

so imma head out

[unkempt blade]

yeah but people should play however is fun for them and I support your inefficient low powered dreams

[solemn crystal]

my satisfactory quota of the week is now over

adios

[solemn crystal]

thansk

ill make sure to add a single factory cart that moves stuff at a pathetically slow pace

to honor your support

[viscid bobcat]

I have to delete literally everything

where do I start

this game is too time consuming man

[shy mulch]

why do you have to delete things? generally you don't

[viscid bobcat]

well you see

I just unlocked clocking

and I have a big bad boy factory

that uses no clocking

[shy mulch]

why does that matter

[viscid bobcat]

and also it looks pretty ugly, time for a renovation

[shy mulch]

there's plenty nodes, just disconnect what you have from the power and go build new stuff on some different nodes, that way if you need some resources for building etc you can easily turn your old stuff back on

also don't overclock just for the sake of it, it uses a lot more power, only do it if you need to

[viscid bobcat]

actually yea, I could just leave this behind and leave it running

where should I move though?

whats the best spot for HMF factory

[cosmic pawn]

what do i need to refine caterium?

[shy mulch]

a constructor?

[cosmic pawn]

oh im stupid

i didn't have the recipe unlocked

[peak wasp]

i have 3 line of pipe t2
every line is connect to fluid buffer then we have fluid buffer A ,fluid buffer B , fluid buffer C
if i want when enter and exit the pipe all 3 pipes union for split in 3 fluid buffer.
Basically, I want the three buffers to receive a balanced input from the pipes, so that if pipe A has less fluid than pipe B, buffer B still remains balanced.
In short, I want to make a balancer.
How can I do that?

[shy mulch]

you can't, but you shouldn't have to, what is the reason for needing to do that, or even needing buffers, this is generally unnecessary in most cases

a lot of people fail to manage fluids well because they try to overcomplicate it

[peak wasp]

i want add a buffer for heavy oil , this HO its used to be fuel then generate energy. i prefer have an buffer for this because overwise if my production of plastic/rubben is low/stop explode all XD

[lament niche]

#screenshots message

[swift cave]

hey guys a question, have they fixed the issues with conveyor lifts/vertical splitters in blueprints since the introduction of 1.1?

[dim harbor]

If it’s the issue where adding a splitter to a vertical lift can stop the flow of items up until you rebuild the lift, it’s still happening

[swift cave]

ok thanks I'm waiting to come back to the game until those are all ironed out

[shy zenith]

can anyone give me tips/ideas for progression, i'm just getting past the initial slop ground phase, whats the best way to transition to my first clean main base and should I keep in mind another further transition to a bigger better clean base?

[feral geyser]

I suggest plannin and making a series of independent factories for your next few project parts. While those go, take a look at what you primary building materials are, and make sure you are producing a reasonable quantity of those going into storage bins and, ultimately, dimensional depots.

[lament niche]

Build a foundation just above the top height of the terrain you're expecting, and then build a big flat foundation

[feral geyser]

Oh, God, lasagna...

[lament niche]

I then set up ten sets of 10x10 walled squares as the base for future buildings

[feral geyser]

I would say 12×12, cuz once you Mark up of designers, you can fit more per floor without dead space.

[reef basin]

don't plan for future, build what you need now. And get rid of "having one base" mindset

[feral geyser]

But I also would say, don't do that

[shy zenith]

I'm a factorio player, I can't resist

[reef basin]

as a factorio player myself, get rid of practically everything that is "factorio mindset"

[feral geyser]

It is pretty satisfying, ngl

[reef basin]

the two games share basically just "factory builder" genre

[shy zenith]

oh my god earth is in my hands!

[polar leaf]

factorio bases look big af but at reality it's just a satisfactory base without vertical

[frail sleet]

square vs cube scaling. Doubling machine area requires 1.41x width/height on 2d, or 1.26x on 3d.

Repeat that 16x and the 2D floor is 6.4x larger by XY area.

32x, and it's 40x larger.

[hardy wagon]

#screenshots message
guys thoughts on the factory progress

[cunning siren]

ALSO; git rid of the idea that somebody else knows how to play a game for you 😆

[shy zenith]

IM BUILDING A GLOBAL RAIL NETWORK

[hardy wagon]

i just never got out of the slop phase

[cunning siren]

If you want to play this game like you play Factiro party on, you are not the anitchrist because of it 🤷

[shrewd gyro]

is the quartz extra inventory research bugged? casue I didnt get a single exta slot from it

[polar leaf]

I'm blocking u 🙏

[hardy wagon]

nooo 😭

[shrewd gyro]

umm how many inv slots are you supposet to have? I have 42 and I only have the Quartz tree upgrade plus alls the tier 0, 1 and 2 milstones

[hardy wagon]

my factory is 🔥 thoo

[spare ice]

Hey guys, ive been seeing some clips about hypertubes. Is tehre anyway to "speed" it up ?

seen people fly almost 😛

[reef basin]

yeah you can use the exploit of stacking multiple entrances

[hardy wagon]

look at hypertube cannons

[spare ice]

Is that an upgraded version of hypertube or some?

[frail sleet]

There's an intended game mechanic where you can go faster if you put multiple entrances. They do double-duty as boosters basically.

[frail sleet]

No, just a way of building them

[spare ice]

I see 😉

Ill try right now 😄

[polar leaf]

yeeessss

[polar leaf]

nah you need to buy the dlc

[spare ice]

Really?

[polar leaf]

yeah bro its 100$

before taxes

and has 10 uses only

[spare ice]

LMAO 😛

[polar leaf]

whats the joke?

sike 🤓

[spare ice]

Lol 😛

[hardy wagon]

#screenshots message 😉

[polar leaf]

plz never tag me again

[hardy wagon]

😔

the world gets very laggy when i point a hologram of a structure at the factory

[frail sleet]

i think that is a bug

happens to everyone but lose like 70% of my fps

[hardy wagon]

then again my factorys pretty unconventional but not sure if its normal for the game to practically freeze

[frail sleet]

it is, but it probably shouldn't be

[hardy wagon]

is it a known bug?

[frail sleet]

don't think it's been confirmed by devs

[polar leaf]

blueprints decrease my fps a lot some reason too

maybe because there's like 300 stuff in it but idk

[ivory condor]

thats normal

the larger the blueprint the more my fps drops to

[polar leaf]

I mean when you want to paste like 12 in a row it's annoying but yeah

[frail sleet]

even just pressing the button to make a belt can make the game drop 10-100 frames in a row (as in, never make them because there's a hard stall) and then run at 25-50% of normal fps. It's not a blueprint issue

[hardy wagon]

i havent been using blueprints yet, i just get low frames from tryina place something like a belt

[ivory condor]

yeah annoying for sure but no real solution to blueprints fps issues

[cunning siren]

Does it happen with all versions of the conveyor poles or just the "default" ones?

[hardy wagon]

ye when in the middle of my factory, tryina build puts my fps down from 140 to 40 😭

[frail sleet]

Now that i'm thinking about it, it might be actually the belt that does that, and be related to having lots of the same type of belt/pipe/machine

[polar leaf]

thats weird I haven't really noticed that

man I'd hate my life it my game dropped that much when placing every belt

[frail sleet]

i am not sure, need to investigate it more

[cunning siren]

I recall there was a specific issue with MK.6 belt placement in "megabase situations" last I knew, it was patched though

[frail sleet]

but it's deffo a thing with building mode causing both stutter when entering it, and massive performance drops sometimes

[frail sleet]

if you have a lot of a specific object, say like a certain type of 4m foundation, whenever you place one of that object the game stutters

if you place a different variant, no stutter

it affects belts and pipes too, but they tend to just take a really long time to build instead of stuttering the game

like a mk5 belt will build in 1 second but a mk6 might take 5 to do the same thing, because you have more mk.6 belts in the world

#off-topic-tech message

[polar leaf]

u building em death star or what 😭

why u need so much water

sky filled with concrete

[frail sleet]

#math-and-meta message

[polar leaf]

ok why pal

some people like torture Ig

[violet brook]

Just to be clear, screws past tier 2 don't have any purpose for keeping offhand right? Purely for crafting advanced parts?

[polar leaf]

nah screw 100% usuless

you just use it for like awesome shop and that's it

[violet brook]

I am uber early game

[violet brook]

(Just hit tier 3)

So no alternate recipes.

[hard ivy]

If you're in tier 3, you can get rid of screws entirely from that point onwards

Just gotta go hard drive hunting

Now and again in tier 6

[spare ice]

Guys does anyone know of a mod or something that lets you MOVE storage without having to remove it and build again ?

[weak shoal]

YOOO finally tier 4

[violet brook]

Basically until I find a more favorable alternate recipe?

Because I still have to make RIP for smart plates

[spare ice]

Anyone know how to put an oil extractor on top of foundations? 😛

[reef basin]

why would you want to do such a horrible thing

[spare ice]

Im just trying to build on foundations and need it to be a bit higher than the ground cause its uneven

[polar leaf]

I on think u can pump oil from concrete mate

[reef basin]

why does oil extractor need to be on foundation lol

[spare ice]

I wanted to build RIGHT next to it

But sure I can move it 😛

[sour tiger]

i managed somehow to clip a foundation so its just visible but impossible to dismantle

[rigid mist]

960 iron ingots/min should be enough for now and all the infrastructure is in place to expand later

[sick falcon]

society if you could artificially limit how fast a conveyor goes

[hard ivy]

You can?

Unless you're talking about how fast it moves you, then no

[narrow canyon]

Just put the foundations down. If snap is blocked, remove 1 so you can see oil.. should snap and sit on foundations. Then put the 1 back in. Just don't go to high..

[spare ice]

THank you il ltry this 😄

[narrow canyon]

Works for all nodes except wells.. they only snap to ground. But can use foundations to get rotation right.

[cunning siren]

Is there an "advantage" with putting foundations under nodes? 🤔 Like... do they somehow fix a "problem" that existed before the foundation happend?

[sterile blade]

Vertical alignment of the miner?

[cunning siren]

Time to test that

The idea that walls / foundations around "something" for fixing FPS issues checks out... That may change how I do some stuff 🤔

[sick falcon]

you can limit how many items per minute they transport?

how

[cunning siren]

"Ballancer"

Basically a blob of splitters and mergers that math happens with and a specific result "comes out" the other end

Example: #screenshots message

[frail sleet]

lower tier belts move fewer items. Loopbacks reduce flow by specific fractions.

[hardy wagon]

oh god

[hard ivy]

that's called a belt limiter, not a balancer. and especially not a "ballancer"

[cunning siren]

Yea, I'm not sure what terms are deemed acceptable in the Satisfactory community 🤷 and it's not really that important to me

[hard ivy]

It's important to people who are trying to find information about it.

I've seen people ask "why is this balancer not working" when it's because someone posted a blueprint of something that isn't even close to a balancer and yet for some inane reason decided to call it one

[solemn crystal]

inefficient iron plates factory jumpscare 👻

[polar leaf]

you haven't seen this clearly #screenshots message

[solemn crystal]

yall must be terrified to the point you cant respond

[hardy wagon]

as someone whos somehow managed to start 6 worlds without completing a single playthrough, this is insane to me

[haughty snow]

Amateur

I have 15

[hardy wagon]

dedication to the lack of dedication 😭

[haughty snow]

Nuh uh

One of my worlds has like 1000 hours on it

[hardy wagon]

jeeez

and it isnt fully completed?

[haughty snow]

Nope

I stopped at trains. It had more spaghetti in it than Italy

[haughty snow]

What about you

[hardy wagon]

fair enough

[haughty snow]

I just started a new one

[hardy wagon]

ive mostly played co op worlds and worked on just tryina see how many of each item i could make without being very helpful to actual progression 😭

[hardy wagon]

same, started one about a month ago but past 2 weeks havent seen much progress until today

[cunning glade]

looks better

[haughty snow]

Haha yea I am having my 5 month phase

[hardy wagon]

currently just going thru each world ive had and taking a screenshot. gonna see if theres any significant difference to my play style 😭

[haughty snow]

The ish video really brought me back to Satisfactory haha. Don't know why

[hardy wagon]

oo fair enough lol

i always just get drawn back to it

[haughty snow]

It's my favorite game

Conveyor belts and factories are my tism

[hardy wagon]

yep same, making things as efficient as u can is just fun ngl, also tryina keep it organised even tho thats something i didnt do in my current world

[haughty snow]

I don't really bother with efficiency as much, although I try

I am just trying to make things look nice so far

[hardy wagon]

pretty much the opposite of what im currently doing 😭

i do have a certain aesthetic that im working on currently but its just a mess

[haughty snow]

What i do is I make a mess, but I don't make it permanent

At the start of the game

[hardy wagon]

i have a habit of just never getting rid of old factories

[haughty snow]

And then I take it all down when I have enough mats

[haughty snow]

Yep I do too

[hardy wagon]

i kinda like having them just exist as sort of memories

[haughty snow]

Yea same

The reason I couldn't take my first world down was because there is so much stuff it would lag the game

[hardy wagon]

ah makes sense

[haughty snow]

I miss my trains tho

That was the selling point for me

I love trains

[haughty snow]

What about you?

[hardy wagon]

oh yeah the trains

[haughty snow]

What was your selling point

[hardy wagon]

for me it was simply the automation / factory aspect as before getting the game i was obsessed with shapez (also played factorio a while back)

[haughty snow]

Same here, except it's my only factory game. I wish there was a similar game that was modern so I can use modern tech

The futuristic stuff is cool and all but i still want some modern stuff

[hardy wagon]

ye thats fair, satisfactory kinda just meets all my factory game needs so im probably gonna stick to it for a while

[coarse pebble]

is there any info on how the AWESOME Sink's points per ticket increases?

Like is there an effective limit on the amount of tickets you can ever make because the points needed per ticket will become so massive it will take literal weeks to make a single one?

[dense violet]

Check the wiki page

[polar leaf]

amateur

I have 17

[haughty snow]

😭

[haughty snow]

Your game is almost an adult

[polar leaf]

why ain't fishing no fishing

[haughty snow]

?

[polar leaf]

making 18 December

[polar leaf]

idk read your pronouns and I thought about fish

[haughty snow]

What do you do on them

[polar leaf]

huh

[haughty snow]

What do you do on the worlds that you made 17 of them

[polar leaf]

idk

I have like 10 I was joking

2 look good 1 is for blueprints, 1 is a friend's save and the other were when I was a noobie

[hardy wagon]

#screenshots message
made a little list of my past and current worlds

[polar leaf]

what happened in your life for you to turn out like that in your last save

[hardy wagon]

Combination of less free time, inspo from portal 2 and rain world, aswell as trying to see how quickly I can progress even tho half my playtime was spent afk 😭

[haughty snow]

You guys wanna make a satisfactory world @hardy wagon @polar leaf

[polar leaf]

bro

#screenshots message aside from the steel and the rocket fuel I still need to do allat

[haughty snow]

So your new

[polar leaf]

no? I have 700 hours of playtime 💀

[haughty snow]

Oh I see

[polar leaf]

I'm the master builder #screenshots message

🤓

[viscid bobcat]

do I choose the steel rods or do I rescan and gamble for cast screws

[cosmic pawn]

even though i am not afraid of spiders. they are very unsettling and i hate how my quartz area is full of them

i don't wanna leave my tractor

[viscid bobcat]

in the settings theres an arachnophobia mode that turns them into cat pngs

[cosmic pawn]

ik

[dense violet]

do you need either of the recipes you rolled in the near future? if not, reroll

[viscid bobcat]

hahaha i found a way

just save before picking the recipe and keep reloading till u get something for screws

[cosmic pawn]

i didn't think i'd be this afraid in a game like this

[viscid bobcat]

I got steel screws

i dont care if its ethical or not

[dense violet]

jesus, just use a save editor or AGS

[viscid bobcat]

ficsit shouldve given me steel screws in the first place

[dense violet]

they give you the tools to skip hard drive collection/scanning in game

[viscid bobcat]

no

thats cheating

I never exploit the game

[lost wagon]

save scumming is technically an exploit

[dense violet]

it's just especially dumb because you can just access all the recipes using in game settings and mechanics

[viscid bobcat]

ficsit said save earth by any circumstances necessary

[lost wagon]

which includes cheating

[viscid bobcat]

I can't hear you

over these new steel screws

[lost wagon]

who uses screws smh

[mortal ginkgo]

it might be indeed shocking for some that steel screws is indeed a good recipe

especially for HMF when produced right near the Manufacturer

[viscid bobcat]

u need 15 thousand screws a minute minimum to beat the game

[clever stone]

Do you guys prefer Heavy Flexible Frame or Heavy Encased Frame

[viscid bobcat]

heavy flexible frames

you'll get clean numbers with it

[clever stone]

Lowkey that is pretty good, I have excess rubber I need to route somewhere

[cunning siren]

According to tools Encased is more efficient AND if you plan on only using one and OC + slooping it Flexible has a higher output so 🤷 somewhat situational

[clever stone]

I was also hoping to eliminate nails for some of the late game recipes with encased frames

So I’ll see which one I like more when I get those recipes

[cunning siren]

If Ion Pipe... lots of other recipes synergize with it AND it frees up steel beam production for Steel Screws that pairs nicely with Copper Rotor and Flexible Frames 🤷

[earnest oak]

drones vs trains explained?

[feral geyser]

Heheh aluminum screw enjoyers are laughing right now

It's me, I'm laughing

[feral geyser]

Drones are trains minus all the infrastructure, except you need at least twice as many and some sort of fuel.

[earnest oak]

thats light then

[feral geyser]

Exactly

[cunning siren]

Dang Drones that good aye? I'm a belt hugger it seems, maybe I'll go crazy with drones and see how that goes

[feral geyser]

Plus they look like little owls 🥺 how could you not love them?

[cunning siren]

If they let me ride them then... it would be a done deal 😆

[earnest oak]

you can

[fierce quartz]

I barely use drones, pretty much just for cross-world movement of small items

[earnest oak]

sorta...

[cunning siren]

Maybe I'll do a tiny plutonium fuel build and then try drone crazy mode

[fierce quartz]

fuel factory -> reactors & reactors -> waste processing is usually a good route for drones

although I tend to build my processing/factories a way away from my reactors

[spice spindle]

I need to start building vertically 💀

I'm running outta room and I cant' produce enough DX

[viscid bobcat]

our biggest flex for this game is verticality

but then when someone uses verticality

they are insane

[frail sleet]

Satisfactory 2 with four spatial dimensions? 😄

[viscid bobcat]

wait someone help

when I search something in the awesome shop it uses my keybinds

like when I type m it opens the map

nvm fixed it

[white dawn]

Heavy Modular Tesseracts?

[frail sleet]

3d parts in a 4d world

[cunning siren]

TIL: Spiderbro's super easy targets in the water 🤔

🦥

[spice spindle]

...Is there a menu we can open to just turn machines on and off without going to each individual one? 😭

like how you can with work stations in Timberborn?

[vestal hill]

That’s called hooking up a priority power switch to a section of a grid and then turning that switch off

[spice spindle]

so there is no actual menu? 💀

[tall root]

Completely screwed up the aluminum chain on my fmf factory
Now I'm doubling it

[tall root]

Wouldn't be even remotely practical for this game

[frail sleet]

The power switch menu.

[hollow mason]

how do i add more stuff to my hotbar??

like foundations and stuff

[tall root]

Hover over it in the inventory and press the number key for the slot you want to bind it to

Are you also aware that you have multiple hotbars?

[hollow mason]

no??

[tall root]

Hold alt and scroll 🙂

[hollow mason]

oh i wondered what that number in the bottom was

[tall root]

Now you know

[hollow mason]

hell yeah, also can i somehow place multiple things in a line? like draw a line then drop and it builds a bunch of shit

[dense violet]

a trick to have more useful hot bars:

if you hold E while building an object - it brings up a radial menu of similar objects (in it's category) , that way yo ucan make your hot bars very compact

[hollow mason]

ahh okay ive always tapped E

[tall root]

That's called zoop, it's a build mode. You switch build and dismantle modes by pressing or holding r.

[swift grail]

zoop for walls or foundations, r to change modes I think

[dense violet]

you can zoop foundations and walsl and other things

[hollow mason]

ohh thats what zoop is

[swift grail]

zoop is amazing

[dense violet]

tapping E cycles through the radial menu w/o bringing it up

radial menu can be more convenient

[hollow mason]

damn this is all so helpful lol wtf

[dense violet]

middle mouse button to eye drop an object if yo uhaven't seen that yet 🙂

they've put a lot of work into making building as smooth as possible

[hollow mason]

yeah i had no idea hahaaha

[tall root]

Another one that a lot of people don't know:
If you open the codex and click on an item, you get a list of recipes for that item. If you click on that recipe, it expands it and shows you the per minute values. You can type in the overclocking percent and overclocking target rate boxes to have the numbers change without needing to build a machine.

[dense violet]

hold CTRL while building some machines or obj to snap them to others

CTRL C and CTRL V to copy paste settings

[hollow mason]

yeah i got the snapping pretty quick but didnt know the rest

[tall root]

Also, once you unlock blueprints:
If you're in blueprint dismantle mode, you can use mmb to sample an entire blueprint

[hollow mason]

im not really at that stage yet but still helpful

[dense violet]

hold CTRL also lets you half nudge
OR spin objects in small degrees

[dense violet]

yeah they are basically objs

[hollow mason]

cant seem to make this work, is this only on the ground?

[dense violet]

you have to lock the object first , then nudge

can't recall , H I think to lock a hologram?

then you can nudge it around

and the midle mouse button to spin certain objects, like pillars or beams

[hollow mason]

ah yep i got it didnt really understand what the lock option was for

[dense violet]

you can also control the tilt of some items with the middle wheel, things like pipe stands and other objects that require multiple clicks to place mean they have options to alter position or orientation

[hollow mason]

alright now i just gotta remember all this

[dense violet]

copy paste into a document 😛

it'll become second nature though pretty fast

[hollow mason]

oh and when the hell do i unlock ladders

[dense violet]

you buy them in the awesome shopw

should prob be one of your first purchases. that and wall sockets

[hollow mason]

damnit i actually have to use that thing

[swift grail]

what is eye dropping with the middle mouse button?

[hollow mason]

is it a good idea to just set it up at a random node and let it eat everything for tickets

[dense violet]

the awesome shop is filled with awesome things xD

[hollow mason]

selects the block you hover over, like eye dropping a colour, just learnt it pretty cool

[dense violet]

eh if yo uwant.

quick wire or crystal is simple to set up and can pump out a good amoutn of points for little effort

[swift grail]

oh, cool

or sloop alien dna

[hollow mason]

quartz is other side of the map for me 🙁

[tall root]

DNA is also good for ~60 easy tickets

[hollow mason]

alright ill sort that out soon tryna build a vertical smelting thingo

[dense violet]

what zone did you start in?

[hollow mason]

the first option desert area

[dense violet]

the first should be grassy fields

rocky desert or dune desert?

[hollow mason]

i started on the west side of the map

NWW

[dense violet]

rocky. There's crystal in the centre of the rocky desert in caves.

but prob easier to do quick wire

[hollow mason]

oh yeah its underground i did find that actually

couldnt find a way to get to it tho

[dense violet]

on the far east and west side of rocket desert, near the beaches, are entrances. the cave runs east to west the whole way

[frail sleet]

early game yeah

but combine nodes to fill your belt if neccesary

sinks cost a flat 30mw which is a lot

[hollow mason]

i have a few coal plants already so power isnt too stretched yet

[frail sleet]

definitely then

also get MAM research for caterium/quartz, make smart splitters overflowing into a sink belt for your part construction. They'll fill however much storage you have, but keep the machines running afterwards for sinking.

[hollow mason]

wall power outlets right?

[dense violet]

yup, very convenient

[hollow mason]

can you get floor ones??

[bleak canopy]

How do i unlock Mk2 power polls?

[dense violet]

no but there's tricks to putting them on floors

[dense violet]

MAM. But I don't really recommend them. Lots of connections means having a spider web of cables everywhere

bad for management

[bleak canopy]

@dense violet Thank you

[viscid bobcat]

bro disassembling my old factory

it has so many logistical floors

that it looks like a maze down there

like when they poured concrete down an ant hill

[shy fog]

remember it's not just chaos, it's your chaos... that worked for what you wanted it to do

never be ashamed of doing chaos, the spaghetti calls

related: almost finished preparing for the ai expansions

[viscid bobcat]

theres no reason I need 3 layers of logistical floors

[shy fog]

there is no current reason, perhaps there was a past reason

[viscid bobcat]

well i mustve been an absolute idiot because the most complex thing I was working with was an assembelr

so 3 layers of logistics is impossible

how is it even possible now that I think of it

[shy fog]

welcome to the rule of code writing

[main dragon]

the feature i want most in satisfactory is i think like, dynamic weather pollution, like the more smoke producing machines you have in the biome the scarier the clouds get, like a brown haze over everything, maybe you even need too use gas masks if youre outside if it gets bad enough,
could even have a similar system for nuclear fallout,
but then you can make like atmosphere cleaning machines, or you like connect a pipe from the coal gen too a different machine and it uses more space, but it doesnt make the sky yucky,
just as like another layer of stuff you need too worry about and manage would be cool, or you just ignore it and make cool smoke stacks everywhere

[shy fog]

"how was I so dumb" is an excessively large compliment to yourself

[viscid bobcat]

they already said no it hink

they dont want that extra layer of the player to worry about

[dense violet]

try a game called Eco for that

[viscid bobcat]

cuz the whole point is you're supposed to pollute the game to progress

[viscid bobcat]

goddamn i remember that game

I played it in 2018 when I had a shitty computer and It couldnt run above 50 fps

so I dropped it, wonder if I can run it now

[main dragon]

yeah i just feel like it isnt really a feature in gameplay, like the story of the game is you are stripping the planet of resources and fighting off the wildlife,
but there arent really any like, im ruining the planet roleplay things

besides like, getting a chainsaw and deforesting everything

[viscid bobcat]

also they said they dont want to add any clean energy other than nuclear reactors

[dense violet]

there really isn't anything about stripping the planet and ruining it. That's entirely projection from players

[viscid bobcat]

in a video they said they want you to be like destroying the planet as much as possible

[main dragon]

and geo

[viscid bobcat]

also I dont think you're making that much of an effect on a planetary scale, like 100 oil power plants is very little damage to the planet

there are 132 petrol refineries operating in the USA rn

[feral geyser]

Create, Automate, Explore, Exploit

[main dragon]

but yeah i mean, i dont exactly want the game to be about, getting clean energy, i more just want, too make the world yucky, i got all my machiens pumping out smoke and i feel like it should be smoggier

but also like, having a insentive too rush nuclear might be good

[viscid bobcat]

i do want a smoggy game like satisfactory

[feral geyser]

Realistic pollution when

[viscid bobcat]

like a steampunk vibe with satisfactory building

[dense violet]

I mean sure, you can want the game to be about that, but there's zero about it in any single way.

I recommend you find a game liek that. Like Eco

[viscid bobcat]

that could be a great dlc man

[feral geyser]

I want my streams to run red and the animals to get sickly

[main dragon]

or a mod maybe

[viscid bobcat]

steampunk satisfactory? dev when add this

[main dragon]

yeah let me spill oil into the water supply

[viscid bobcat]

the animals probably describe us as demons

[dense violet]

it would have to be an extreme overhaul

[leaden turret]

https://archive.satisfactory.video/topics/features/requested-features/pollution/

[viscid bobcat]

do I go to sleep or do I begin working on my factory

[leaden turret]

sleep + dream of working on factory, problem solved

[viscid bobcat]

but I have responsibilities tomorrow

I dont want to have responsibilities

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> tophats and monocles for all the mobs for international steampunk day

[leaden turret]

being well-rested is a responsibility

[viscid bobcat]

ok ill just do this oooneee little thing and ill go to bed

[leaden turret]

cut to five minutes later, morning alarm goes off

[viscid bobcat]

next clip is november

I have a fully grown beard

[main dragon]

an any way, i do think i want like, another thing to worry about in the game, like a different progression tree running parrallal, and i think like,
pollution mitigation machines would be nice for that,
but really it could be anything, just like another thing too worry about besides electricity

[viscid bobcat]

yea but it wouldnt make sense for pollution mitigation

ficsit dont gaf about this planet

why would they waste time and resources to mitigate pollution when they could be improving their factories

[shy fog]

all power buildings converted to release steam

[viscid bobcat]

ok, I got a clean slate, my entire factory is deleted

what now

[shy fog]

much spaghetti calls

turn to the pasta side

or build a factory from the space elevator backwards...

[viscid bobcat]

no I wont do it this time

this time ill make it organized

[brisk siren]

the amount of train-signal related questions are staggering. I have to admit - I didn't get it until I did, and I still can't explain it well

[shy fog]

look up gaming with doc on youtube

he explains a lot

[hollow mason]

oh no this is the first time ive had to open a note in this game

time to do math

[frail sleet]

I have 3, but it was meant to be 2. One of them is just "alright i wanna take 50 belts from A to B but the other 2 layers have shit in the way"

rather add an 8 meter subfloor to cut across that shit instead of routing 50 belts up a floor and around everything else and then back down

and it adds shape which is + for asthetics xd

[leaden turret]

press N for Nalculator

[limber plaza]

they let u out the cage bro?

[feral geyser]

i'm a rabid animal

[brisk siren]

his vid genuinely didn't help at all 🥲

it's a lot simpler than ppl make it out to be though once you understand how the signal works on its own

[neon kraken]

question what is the type of builing called if i use the frames stuff in SF if there is a name for it like there is for building Brutalism

[shy fog]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/S6S7VMCM4bg did ya find this one?

[brisk siren]

yeah, i think it wasn't as helpful when understanding how to signal up bi-directional rails

this guy's channel is so great btw, love his content

[shy fog]

agree, he hasn't done everything, but he explained almost everything you need to learn

[brisk siren]

it does explain how to set up a basic junction, but path signals don't allow entry unless the train can exit past the next block signal, rather than up to it, and that for example wasn't mentioned much when i searched the reddit and watched yt vids on it

[shy fog]

personally... I'm on https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/AI_Expansion_Server

ah, you need his second short

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KddrBl0JU9c this one?

[brisk siren]

i've already got a handle on it now, was just commenting on the lack of explanation of the signal-specifics. Instead I see more content on junctions - especially tidy junctions haha

[dense violet]

I suppose it depends what it looks like. Industrial could apply?

[abstract heron]

hi

[hollow mason]

do i need to create a buffer on all machines to run at optimal rates?

[cosmic pawn]

What type of power do i get after coal? I am about done with phase 1 now. Also i am honestly worried about getting to nuclear because i heard if it mess up slightly it go boom and idk everything around it go boom or if it becomes disabled

[hollow mason]

i thought it was oil after coal

i might be wrong tho

[cosmic pawn]

Ik oil exists but idk when i get it

[hollow mason]

yeah neither ive found patches but i cant use it yet, im at phase 2 atm

[cosmic pawn]

My factory is such a mess of conveyors but practically everything is automated except sulfur and quartz related stuff

[versed mesa]

Hello all good morning

[cosmic pawn]

Cables and rotors are my biggest pain rn

[versed mesa]

Ive been redoing piping at one of my factories and or my fluid and pipes are a pain to deal with lol

[cosmic pawn]

Fr

[versed mesa]

We in better spot now and pruning around 400 batteries a minute over clocked

[cosmic pawn]

Because I forgot the item it was but it needs wires and rotors iirc

My wire conveyor is too full because of the lack of rotors

[versed mesa]

@cosmic pawn just increase production for each

[cosmic pawn]

Id have to make my base like 2x as big

[versed mesa]

Yeah you have to lol

[cosmic pawn]

Hence why i was thinking about making a dedicated concrete base just to make more space

And having a tractor bring it over to my main one

Glad there is no limit to how much i can build within limits of course

[versed mesa]

Trains and vehicles i dont have automated atleast not yet do I plan to idk yet I do things my self then I know whats what lol

[bright lion]

hey what is a good way to transport coal give or take 500-600 meters? im just starting to unlock tier 4 milestone, and i need to start steel production, as im not sure if i should use the mk2 conveyor or tractor

[cosmic pawn]

I only have one tractor going

And thats for my steel factory

[versed mesa]

Tracker or truck

[bright lion]

i meant tractor, was thinking of playin ets2 later mb

got confused lol

[cosmic pawn]

Mk3 are gonna make everything so much better

Mk3 conveyor my beloved

Saves so much time

Is there a mk4?

[bright lion]

so i should get mk3?

[cosmic pawn]

Tractors are still nice

[versed mesa]

Am on mk5 making my way slowly for mk6

[bright lion]

i have no clue on how tractors work yet as im moved my base to a closer spot to the coal, it was around 1.2k iirc before, but i still need to get it up a steep hill so im not sure if tractors will work

[cosmic pawn]

I just built a bridge for my tractor and it works flawlessly

[bright lion]

oh so it doesnt mattter if its steep?

[cosmic pawn]

Not really

Like the tallest ramps work fine

[dense violet]

use a belt. fine early on while you're learning things 🙂

depending on teh terrain a truck could be an option too if you want to learn that

[cosmic pawn]

The ai just struggles with rocks and other uneven terrain

[dense violet]

just use the natural roads

[bright lion]

give me a second and ill send a ss into screenshots so you can see if the tractor will work

[cosmic pawn]

I've had times when it flipped over and turned around before it got to the checkpoint

[bright lion]

sent it

[cosmic pawn]

That was before i made the bridge

[dense violet]

I mean, with enough infrastructure anything will work

the positives of a truck is that it uses very little infrastructure. So using them where you need tons is .. not amazing

[bright lion]

so can it go up/down that bridge i sent in screenshot without falling into the lake below

[cosmic pawn]

Mine just goes in a straight line half the time

[dense violet]

just belt it. It'll be easier. Or belt it up the cliff

[cosmic pawn]

True

[dense violet]

what are you trying to do with the coal anyway?

[bright lion]

steel

too lazy to walk up and down all of that

[dense violet]

I'd just use the other coal nodes in the area for it honestly.
use everything around that lake for power

[bright lion]

ill just setup a small one here to get the mk3 conveyor

and then belt it to my main factory later

[cosmic pawn]

Like i said mk3 conveyors will save so much time

Especially with coal gens

From experience

[bright lion]

ye and i want to unlock the big power lines, as coal is the best power source for me rn

would the starter power pole be fine to power about 20 or so buildings from a coal gen, or do i get the better ones

[dense violet]

both do the exact same thing. I never use the power towers as they are huge and ugly

[cosmic pawn]

I only use the towers if it's a long distance

[dense violet]

eh even then ... huge and ugly

[cosmic pawn]

But for in factorys it's the mk2 poles

[bright lion]

its like a 20 second walk with the blade runners, mainly due to the climb down

[bronze atlas]

the big towers are great if you like ziplining around, or you have a spread out base and you want to only build one power station

[dense violet]

must look like a webby mess

[cosmic pawn]

I'll eventually have to build a second power station

[bronze atlas]

but functionally all power lines work the exact same for powering machines, just have more connections depending on the level of them used.

[bright lion]

so mk1 poles will power it fine?

[bronze atlas]

yes

[bright lion]

alright thanks

[cosmic pawn]

I spread them out pretty much at the max distance

[bronze atlas]

you will need to use a lot of them because they only have 4 connections

but they will work. Theres no limit on the power transferred

[cosmic pawn]

Plus i never really hated looking at that design before

[bright lion]

thats what i was wondering if it has, thanks for the help

[cosmic pawn]

Imagine if they did

[bronze atlas]

it would change the game so much

[cosmic pawn]

The lines people would make

Of like 10 towers next to each other

Also since i now have access to the air tube things i want to make a network to go between my 2 close bases and my power plant

[frail sleet]

They have an internal buffer which is large enough to take care of that and more

[bright lion]

with cables, they dont work like belts right? as i built a ''guide'' with them going down twoards the coal deposit, do cables work like conveyors where i have to place it going in a certain direction, or will it work

[cosmic pawn]

And probably others when i make them. Also hate how my quartz mine has the big spiders in it

[bronze atlas]

hypertubes are awesome once you learn the magnificence of hypertube accellerators.

[dense violet]

dcables have no direction

[frail sleet]

electricity is omnidirectional

[bright lion]

alright thanks

[cosmic pawn]

I am not afraid of spiders but damn are they uncomfortable to look at

[frail sleet]

or more specifically, it doesn't have a direction at all - stuff is either connected or it's not

[cosmic pawn]

And also to fight

I am not ready for the very massive ones

If i see one

Im done, no more

I never felt true fear playing this game until i made my quartz mine

[bright lion]

oh ye, how important is quartz

i saw a big ass spider in the direction of it and just left it for a later date

[bronze atlas]

helps make computer parts and i think glass so its pretty useful

[leaden turret]

🏃‍♀️

[cosmic pawn]

Wait till they start leaping at you

[bright lion]

i might research the rebar gun now that i think about it

[bronze atlas]

its not super good at first, but when you get new ammo it becomes situationally pretty useful. Definitely takes some practice if you want to use it in combat

[cosmic pawn]

Putting on aracniphobia mode doesn't help either

[bright lion]

is there a way to know why my fuse is constantly blowing up?

[bronze atlas]

the reason is always that your machines are drawing more power than you are producing

[bright lion]

so one coal gen cant power 20 buildings

[leaden turret]

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[bright lion]

dang i overestimated it

[bronze atlas]

either the generators are running out of fuel, or you have too many machines connected

[bright lion]

that might be it

[cosmic pawn]

I had to make 8 before i could have good power gen

[bright lion]

i got too much coal, but probally too many connected

[cosmic pawn]

Then i bumped it to 16 just to be safe

[bronze atlas]

go to a power pole in the network that is tripping the breaker, and press E on a power pole, it should give you a graph that shows stats about the network

another thing you can do that requires more math is just add up the power draw for each machine you have connected and then compare it to your generated power. If its less you should be fine and the problem is likely fuel for your gens. If its more, then you need to build more generators

you can get a summary of all that though by pressing e on a power pole

[cosmic pawn]

Me having over 1k watts even though im gonna need like 4x as much later

[bright lion]

is it a bad time to say i barely passed my maths gcse / exam whatever its called for you

[cosmic pawn]

It's pretty simple tbh

[bronze atlas]

nah, thats fine. use the power pole instead, you're just comparing graphed lines that way.

[bright lion]

ngl, i thought this game would be way more technical

more simple than i thought

[bronze atlas]

it gets a lot more complicated later in the game, but its like, simple concepts that spiderweb out into a mess of interconnected machines.

nuclear power is my current stumbling block, so complicated to set up.

[cosmic pawn]

It's only technical when things break after 5 seconds after turning on the power lol

[bronze atlas]

havent quite accomplished it yet

my current as yet unimplemented nuclear power station is going to require 130 interconnected buildings not including the remote resource generation networks, and it only generates 26 gw, so its kinda a small one.

[abstract heron]

Step 5 swear

[bright lion]

wait theres nuclear?

[zenith fractal]

ye

[bright lion]

what tier as if its close to 4 i might not bother with coal

[zenith fractal]

buit you won't use it for a long long time if you're new

[bright lion]

as i just started tier 4 milestone

0-3 done

[bronze atlas]

yeah its near endgame

[zenith fractal]

phase 4, basically tier 7 or 8 I forgor

[bright lion]

ah so i wont get it for a while then

so coal is the best power source rn?

[bronze atlas]

no you have coal and then fuel generators before you get to nuclear

[zenith fractal]

due to it being automatable yes

[bronze atlas]

and the fuel generators have like 4 or 5 levels of fuel i think

[bright lion]

also how far along does each water pump need to be

as i sent the hill i need it up in #screenshots

[zenith fractal]

I say use put the gennies at the water and conveyor the coal

solids are easier to transport than liquids

[bright lion]

ye but i want to place a coal gen closer to my main base, and i need it up that hill in screenshots

[zenith fractal]

a lot of pumps

probably

[bright lion]

is there a way to know how far along one needs to be?

[zenith fractal]

mk1 pumps i like pump up to 20M?

[cosmic adder]

how do i change drills in satisfactory calculator from mk3 to mk2?

[bronze atlas]

when you are placing the pump on the pipe, it makes a moving hologram along the pipe. where it stops is how far that pump can push the liquid vertically.

[bright lion]

alr ty

[bronze atlas]

if the pipes are all horizontal you dont need pumps at all, but if there is vertical sections you may need pumps depending on how far up the pipe goes

[bright lion]

very up

[bronze atlas]

liquid physics are applied to pipes so it actually gets very tricky to build a good pipe system, if you don't keep the rules for it in mind.

[outer scarab]

I have never once needed to apply liquid physics in the game other than 1 valve

[bronze atlas]

im having issues at my fuel gen base right now i think because i didnt pay close enough attention to it

[shadow crown]

What's the best layout maker for satisfactory? I tried salt but didn't click with me too complicated

[bronze atlas]

im using satisfactory modeller but it doesnt exactly do layouts, just tells me how many machines i need and what values to use

[outer scarab]

what do you need a layout maker for?

[shadow crown]

So I have a better view and can plan stuff faster

[outer scarab]

i mean, you look at what you want to make, look at what it takes, divide by a number. It's not harder than that usually

for example, I want coal power. I take the 270 coal/m i can get out of a node, divide by 15 because thats how much a coal plant can use, then I have the number I need to make

[shadow crown]

I don't need the math part

[cosmic adder]

anyone can help alternative recipes?

[outer scarab]

i mean its less work than puting in numbers into a planner

what do you need?

[shadow crown]

I got that one, but when you have to actually build the production you have to plan out where to put those buildings to make it efficient

[cosmic adder]

to help choose recipe

[outer scarab]

pick the one that removes screws

all other recipies dont really matter just get them all

[shadow crown]

Cast screws is also very good

Swaps out the iron rods for the ingots

So you only need one constructor

And it makes quite a lot of them

[cosmic adder]

alr

[hard ivy]

The game

[outer scarab]

there are 2 recipes that makes computers easier to make, but thats about the only 3 recipes i care about

[crimson lantern]

Does this game have combat?

I'm going in pretty much blind next month when it releases

On console

[shy mulch]

There are aliens that will try to hurt you. But it's pretty basic and can be turned off

[crimson lantern]

Fair

[frail sleet]

yes, then oil. Nuclear is one of the lategame power options

[crimson lantern]

I'm really excited to build a factory and take over the world

Please tell me i can make little robot helper dudes

Ima call one Steve

[shy mulch]

Hardly played at all the last few weeks, been so busy with work. Hoping things calm down soon so I can continue with my biomass bonanza save

[crimson lantern]

No idea what that means

[shy mulch]

I've completed the game properly long time ago, so I'm doing it again using only very basic (and quite manual) power generation. To make it harder for myself

[shadow crown]

No robot helpers but you have a lizard doggo you can tame

[hard ivy]

Kinda? There is no "helper", but there are vehicles for player and resource transportation

[leaden turret]

what you call people you recruit in #1201555265942724758 is between you and them 😛

[crimson lantern]

LIZARD DOGGIE? HE'S CALLED STEVE

[crimson lantern]

Soooo where do I post my spiders to scare the boss people into adding robot Steves?

[outer scarab]

there are already spiders in the game

[hard ivy]

Here?

[outer scarab]

no in your sock drawer

[leaden turret]

arachnophobia mode was added because some of the devs have arachnophobia, so don't do that 😛

[outer scarab]

wish you could change out the cat jpeg with other pictures

I dont want cat heads running at me

[versed mesa]

Am sure theres defo bugs with the pipes

[leaden turret]

there's mods for that

[reef basin]

why tho? screws are fine

[reef basin]

pick any that you like. There's no bad choice

[outer scarab]

Screws take up the most space and slow down production

[reef basin]

that sounds like you build them weird/wrong

[crimson lantern]

I see, so what you're saying is, it might work in forcing them to make "Robot Steves"?

[outer scarab]

sounds like you have never played the game

[reef basin]

screws are completely fine if you build them in front of machines that need them

[crimson lantern]

I haven't

[outer scarab]

do you talk to people who are on their phone in the bathroom?

[crimson lantern]

I guess? Realistically given I'm not there to watch you take a shit, the only way I'd know you were in the bathroom is if you told me.

[outer scarab]

woosh

[crimson lantern]

So maybe keep it quiet

[outer scarab]

dude I wasnt talking to you... read the room

[crimson lantern]

Tmi dude

[hollow mason]

is there a way i can stop my belts from doing this on slopes?? #screenshots

[true mulch]

Not that I know of, use lifts to run them along walls instead

[outer scarab]

no, slopes are a bad use of belts

it's gods way of punishing you for making circle buildings

[hard ivy]

Place 2 splitters on the belt: one right after it goes from horizontal to diagonal, the other right before it goes from diagonal to horizontal (so basically at both ends but where it's diagonal)

Remove the short belts between the splitters and poles, then remove the splitters.

You should end up with a piece of belt that's fully diagonal. Repeat that for every belt segment, then connect them together

I don't know if it'll be perfectly parallel to the ramp but it should at least be better

[hollow mason]

thank you

ill fix it all up later but its the best i can do for my steel factory

[clever stone]

#screenshots message

Hey chat, here’s my progress update for the night. This area has a lot of annoying enemies but it’s so fun being able to build out some names and lore for the sites that get built.

[cosmic adder]

tubes and wire is good recipe?

for rotor

[reef basin]

"good" depends on your preferences

[cosmic adder]

idk..

im new player so no idea

[reef basin]

well we can't really help you given we don't know your playstyle

[cosmic adder]

i dont have playstyle??

[reef basin]

as I said above, there's no wrong choice, feel free to experiment with recipes, pick whatever you like the most

you can get all recipes anyway, so you won't lose on anything

[clever stone]

^
There’s no one right way to play this game

You just feel around your speed and get at it

From what I can tell most alt recipes are just side grades not inherently better or worse overall, but some benefit factory setups specific to people

[reef basin]

all of them are just alternatives

[clever stone]

Mhmmmmm

Though if I had to give my personal opinion on steel rotor I think it’s one I wouldn’t pick out as a priority

[reef basin]

it's basically more expensive but slightly simplifies the production complexity

[clever stone]

Yeah I can agree with that. I wouldn’t personally use it because my main steel is produced offsite and it goes to a lot of different parts of my factories so having more accessible early game parts for me fills that void that’s easier to set up

[clever stone]

if you’re like, producing your steel right to some copper and such then you could go for it

[versed mesa]

Who here gets alot of issues with pipes ?

[reef basin]

people who think of them as covered belts

[versed mesa]

I don't understand what you mean ?

[clever stone]

Pipes have different physics

[reef basin]

many people build them as if they were just covered belts and then they are surprised it doesn't work

[versed mesa]

Hmm

[dense violet]

the only thing that Modeler does is layouts.
it's a garbage calculator.

if that doesn't work for you I recommend just getting the raw numbers and breaking things down on excel

[versed mesa]

Well my pipe are being surch tits

[clever stone]

They struggle a lot going upwards as well as settling in a direction to go in

[dense violet]

they're only as titty as how they are made

[dense violet]

only with poor layouts

[clever stone]

Real.

[bronze atlas]

works for me, i just wouldnt call it a layout, i guess i have a different idea of what a layout is.

[dim harbor]

I usually get burned out with complexity more than I have issues with resource or power throughput. Maybe it’s a side grade on paper but it keeps the game fun for me

[dense violet]

you can break up the machine nodes into whatever groups you want? Not sure what you want

[bronze atlas]

nothing i was answering someone elses question

[clever stone]

How do you have them setup

[versed mesa]

I redone my pipes for water and Alumina solution where they was doing ok not the greatest but steady to now struggling to get through to rest of the pipes to get to the blenders its like the stuck at a point and can't get past it

[reef basin]

headlift

[versed mesa]

The way you have pipes set up maybe ive done some mistakes i dont know

[versed mesa]

They got pumps

[clever stone]

Yeah check the spots the pumps are at in case there’s maybe a blindspot

Where the liquids can’t reach the next pump

[outer scarab]

or just use walls to measure to make sure your pumps are spaced right

[versed mesa]

See this one pump has gotten the fluid up little slope but it stops and dont go to the ones going in a line feeding into my blenders like they was just about getting the fluid but then stopped so now they struggling

[outer scarab]

that doesnt matter, its about height

[versed mesa]

Guess ill have to re look at them later

[clever stone]

Pumps don’t stack headlift so you have to check where a pump stops on a pipe to build the next one

You can use the little outline plus the H key to get an idea or you can use walls to measure it like talo said

[versed mesa]

@clever stone there was one spot where it marked blue so I put pump then but then it dont show any more still blue just moving blue how the flow will be

[versed mesa]

Right

[bronze atlas]

make sure the pump is connected properly on both sides to the pipe, sometimes they glitch and dont actually connect properly, and the pipe needs to be rebuilt

ive seen that a few times during long pipe runs

[versed mesa]

Ok thanks yeah I have been often moving pumps and trying different spots to see if it works

[bronze atlas]

i forget where the link is but someone made a manual about pipes in satisfactory, its got a lot of great info in it on how the pipe systems work and how to do things like priority pipe systems and such

[versed mesa]

Damn I think i need to look at it lol

[reef basin]

eh, it's more like "this is technically possible", but I wouldn't recommend using the priority system

(even the author himself kinda doesn't recommend it anymore)

[bronze atlas]

i havent used that either so far, but i was more talking about all the useful info in it

[versed mesa]

Let's hope i get it sorted sooner than later

[bronze atlas]

i did end up using the water tower approach.

[hard ivy]

I mean the VIP does work perfectly right now, but it's not guaranteed to work in future updates because it kinda relies on a bug

[reef basin]

yeah, that (water tower) I wouldn't recommend ever

[shy mulch]

The guy who made it even says not to use it any more. The fact it works at all is technically a bug. But I'm convinced it will never be 'fixed' because no many people are using it already, it would annoy loads of players if it was changed and suddenly their factories stopped working. For that reason I'm happy to be part of the crowd and just do the VIP thing wherever it benefits me

[bronze atlas]

why not? i havent noticed any problems with it so far

[shy mulch]

I've never felt the need to do a water tower

[reef basin]

no reason to do water tower if you can just build a pump

and connecting pipes between each other is generally not recommended in any setup

[hard ivy]

Imo towers are only remotely useful if you use the valve exploit (if it even works still). If you're using pumps to get the fluid up the tower, you might as well not have it

[versed mesa]

Is a water tower where it brings the liquid to the top then flows back down to the machines that need it ?

[clever stone]

Pumps are cool but water towers can end up aesthetically satisfying if you put your work into it

[reef basin]

water tower is that you use single set of pumps to provide headlift to multiple pipelines

[bronze atlas]

it was on a long transport line i didn't have any power lines near so i needed a way to get the oil up a decent sized cliff with no power. thats why i chose to build the tower near the source where i had power

[versed mesa]

Right

[bronze atlas]

my water tower is just on one line not multiple, im using it to get up a cliff without power at the cliff.

[versed mesa]

Is there any good pipe videos i cam check out that can help at all ?

[reef basin]

my guess would be no

[clever stone]

I like that gaming with doc guy

[reef basin]

what exactly is your "water tower" then? just a series of pumps? a buffer on top?

[versed mesa]

Why not

[clever stone]

Who posts tutorial shorts on satisfactory logistics

[reef basin]

because from my experience youtubers have surprisingly low knowledge about advanced mechanics

[bronze atlas]

just a tower with a buffer on top that gets the water level above the height of the cliff thats a fair distance away.

[reef basin]

I still find some that say that there's "mk2 pipe bug"

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[hard ivy]

Because pipes are fucked up and most people are wrong about how they work, what helps, what doesn't and what's straight up harmful

[bronze atlas]

well oil level, but yeah.

[reef basin]

that's just pumps then, not something people would call "water tower"

[clever stone]

In my limited experience, pipes want to fight you at almost every instance, same with newly made rail loops that connect back to the existing tracks

[versed mesa]

Thats what I am saying they got to be bugged or something

[bronze atlas]

its a tower with a liquid in it 🤷‍♂️

[reef basin]

there is one or two bugs, but they are not related in general to pipes

[clever stone]

Boy i do sure love having to hunt down the warning error loop junctions on like 50 miles of track I just laid down

[reef basin]

most of the "bugs" come from people doing weird setups

[versed mesa]

Pipes

[hard ivy]

They work exactly as the Devs wanted them to afaik. So not "bugged". It's just what the Devs wanted is dumb and doesn't work perfectly

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[clever stone]

Isn’t there a mod that makes all liquids act like gasses