satisfactory

[dense violet]

to easily compare different versions of the same thing, or just keep things organised

[prime rampart]

help me with this #screenshots

[pale dew]

I wont be of any help youre much more ahead

[dense violet]

#design-and-architecture or #math-and-meta

you can post images there directly and actually talk about your issue

[pale dew]

ive benn playing for only 25 h

[dense violet]

this is literally teh worst channel to work things out

[prime rampart]

ok

[clever stone]

mannnnn i just started working on my nuclear plant and bro it took me so long to just get the remote plant train station up and running

I hope now that I can at least transport the necessary stuff it’ll be much easier to work on it

Other than that, jeez. This is a crazy bottleneck if you’re unprepared

[dense violet]

bottleneck?

[clever stone]

Idk if that’s what everyone calls the term, but the way I mean it is basically a problem point where progress becomes super slow and where you really gotta sit and work the logistics to keep it moving

[dense violet]

sounds like it's just a 'big project'

[clever stone]

Also a fair thing to call it

[pale dew]

when is nuclear energy avaible if i can ask/

[clever stone]

Late game

[pale dew]

phase?

[clever stone]

Phase 4

[pale dew]

alr ty

[clever stone]

What phase are you on rn

[pale dew]

end of 2

like i have no problem with power but i do with radiation

ive set up 32 coal gens already

34 total

im using avg 800 out of 2400MW

[clever stone]

That is

Well that’s better than my setup rn

4000ish out of 5000ish

[pale dew]

Man ive got only coal plants that are good

like the setup there is soild

all my factoriesyoud puke if you saw them

[clever stone]

I’m also on my first playthrough if that makes you feel any better I also had a really ass start-out with factory building

[pale dew]

https://imgur.com/a/kVxSjqc this is like the end of my factory

Im also

but ive got a few hundred hours in factory building games

I just wish satis wasnt so graphics hungry

[clever stone]

Trueeee

[pale dew]

i mean my graphics card is kinda old but 80C on card without undervolitng and fan overclocking

and 70 with

[clever stone]

#screenshots message here’s a slightly outdated version of my main factory

[pale dew]

(in most games ofc)

yours atleast looks like you got a plan

for me only chaos

[clever stone]

No no there was no plan

I just started building foundations lmao

[cursive phoenix]

Surely 1000 aluminum ingots is enough for a while... right??

[clever stone]

They don’t even line up since I built from different areas

[clever stone]

Hmmmmm

[cursive phoenix]

😭

[pale dew]

#screenshots message

[clever stone]

But what about 1001?

[pale dew]

look at that

[cursive phoenix]

👀

[pale dew]

if you made something better theres a high chance you can make it even better

[clever stone]

That’s pretty organized tho

And it’s a perfect starting point for if you decide to make highway infrastructure

[cursive phoenix]

Holy spagethhi

After being stuck on aluminum for a while i finally did it, im proud

[clever stone]

My Station Factory Hydra is named that because I like mythology stuff because it’s literally so much separate winding nonsense connected to a single main section

[clever stone]

Have you gotten to nuclear yet

[pale dew]

Buildings are organised

But containers and conveyors?

Oh hell nah

[clever stone]

That just happens man nothing to be ashamed of

[pale dew]

Ill prolly never touch the conveyors again from this

[clever stone]

You make it practical first organized later

[pale dew]

It just barelly works since ratios are slightly off

Make it first make it good later mindset

[clever stone]

I hoenstly just ignore the ratio stuff

I’m not a hardcore factory math guy ngl

The building part and the automation is the fun part for me

[quaint vine]

Anyone want to play a new save with me for fun?

[clever stone]

I would but I’m still working on my solo save so sorry 😭

[quaint vine]

No problem

[unkempt blade]

you could check out #1201555265942724758

[peak wasp]

ia limiter standard or alternative recipe ? D:

[quaint vine]

Don't have access to the group thing

[prime jasper]

It looks like to me that aluminium is probably the best way to do Ficsite ingots, am I wrong?

[unkempt blade]

there's not a "best" for recipes, it's based on other choices you've made

[sullen gull]

Everyone should have access?

[hushed canopy]

oh my days am i happy i have hunted hard drives, only needing to have cables in a box to make computers at an oil plant is such a lifesaver

atleast until i get around to setting up those trains

[prime jasper]

Yeah, but sometimes there is a recipe that is REALLY better than the other. Like solid steel ingot compared to the default recipe.

I am not saying there always is, but more often than not some stuff is preferable to other.

[unkempt blade]

there's a tradeoff between power and resources used for the example you gave, that's the situational decision you're making there

[prime jasper]

So i guess aluminium is the one using more power but saving some SAM?

[unkempt blade]

I haven't mathed it out but I wouldn't be surprised, it takes multiple steps to get to aluminum ingots and only 1 for the other two

[prime jasper]

Tbh I don't mind using more raw ressource/power, but getting 4 aluminium sounds like a better deal than having to do 24 iron ingots. A small aluminium foundry can supply a decent ficsite ingots factory, while I would need a big iron ingots factory to supply the same ficsite ingots factory

[split cosmos]

does the lizard doggo tp to me if i goo too far? or did i just lost mine?

[prime jasper]

They mostly stay in the area you found them

[sullen gull]

Imo, making aluminum is simple. It's nothing to get 600 ingots/min going.

[prime jasper]

They follow a bit around then they just stop

[unkempt blade]

there's like 6x as much iron as bauxite on the map too so would also be thinking about how much aluminum you're currently planning to use for other stuff

[split cosmos]

thanks

[prime jasper]

exactly, there is more step but it remains a simple crafting recipe

[sullen gull]

In my current save, I am producing all 12,300 baux. Currently only using 300 to make ficist ingots.

[prime jasper]

Yeah, but considering they are all pure nodes and that there is still a lot of them i can't run out of this shit

[unkempt blade]

unless you're doing a vanity project you're never going to run out of any resource just beating the game

[cursive phoenix]

can you use diluted fuel into making turbo fuel
and what is better, normal turbo fuyel or turbo fuel blend in the mixer

[unkempt blade]

you just might need to go further to get that resource

[sullen gull]

Yes. And iirc, using the diluted recipe will net you more from less oil

[cursive phoenix]

is the turbo blend better then normal turbo fuel?

[sullen gull]

Personally I like using the normal. Less sulfur. Especially if you go to rocket fuel with it and reuse the compacted coal waste

[unkempt blade]

Would you rather bring coal to use or mess with more oil stuff? One isn't better than the other

[cursive phoenix]

id rather use more oil so i have to bring less coal around the map i guess

okay so the turbo blend fuel use more fuel but no coal and little bit less sulfur

[unkempt blade]

personally I think people should just roll a dice to picks recipes

[cursive phoenix]

but when u use the normal one u can make more turbo fuel out of less crude oil

[unkempt blade]

it's way more fun than worrying about min/max stuff

[cursive phoenix]

i need to make 500 fuel generators....

[sullen gull]

Unless you overclock the gens?

[cursive phoenix]

if i overclocked them id need like 700 power shards or smth

[vocal nova]

Hi all. I'm in desperate need of some inspiration. I've been watching videos of community created worlds, but there's only so much you can get from videos. Does anyone know of a website, discord, subreddit, etc, where I can find community created worlds that I can download and explore for inspiration?

[shy mulch]

That's fine

[sullen gull]

Well, there are roughly 5k on the map with slugs and slooped machines to process them 😏

[cursive phoenix]

true

at what point can you make artificial shards?

[sullen gull]

Tier 9 iirc.

[cursive phoenix]

iirc?

[sullen gull]

Sorry, If I Recall

[noble timber]

Satisfactory is unplayable because no hand tools.

And no help from Coffee stain.

Yes they only said they never saw that kind of issue.

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont understand the hand tools part...

[noble timber]

The hand tools simply vanish of my hand or I cant choose one when I click on one of them. I saw only small square with each tools inside them and I cant choose one of them. That issue is from the 1.0 version of the game. Some other players on other community report that issue too.

[cursive phoenix]

Does any one know how much m3 there is with presurizers amd extractors + everything overclocked? ( crude oil

[mortal ginkgo]

"I think it’s the parachute. I’ve been testing some. When you jump and have enough room to parachute but jump again to start your flight your hands still disappear from the initial moment of parachute before it deploys. Then it’s stuck in that state. I took it off and tested and it’s been fine since. Honestly with flight you don’t need it anyways." - from reddit

I think this might be the problem. Yesterday it happened to me when I parachuted very close but also managed to jump before the landing.

However it only happened to me once in 300+ hours of playtime.

[dense violet]

you could make 50 nuclear gens instead and have the same power

[unkempt blade]

or... you could do 4000-something biomass burners which is way more impressive

[rigid mist]

is 1/4 of the shell enough for now or should i add the 2 missing walls

[cursive phoenix]

Those 500 fuel gens are only for 3600m3 crude oil...

[rigid mist]

is there a mod that plays a specific sound when getting in a train

[hard ivy]

12.6k

[dense violet]

that doesn't even sound like you're using very efficien't oil recipes :\

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @dense violet

[rigid mist]

huh

that was half a joke half real and i can't even get mods to run

[minor rock]

why not ?

[rigid mist]

linux?

[minor rock]

SML doesn't support linux ?

huh

[hard ivy]

3600 oil via HOR and DF is 480 gens

[rigid mist]

im not sure i've been reluctant to try cause it's always a hassle getting stuff designed for windows to work here

[unkempt blade]

which is a nice even 4000 biomass burners which seems pretty easy to manage

[minor rock]

i feel like sml supports linux better than the base game does, try it out sometime

maybe im dead wrong

[rigid mist]

i'll see

[near frost]

From 1-10 how satisfactory is satisfactory to you?

[unkempt blade]

this game needs more factory cart sized vehicles

just imagine how adorable a factory drone could be

[hard dawn]

-10
I NEED MORE INSERT RANDOM RESOURCE HERE THAT I HAVE USED UP ON MY SIDE OF THE MOUNTAINS

[unkempt blade]

just use sam ore instead! easy!

[hard dawn]

so uhh...

Yeah :)

[twin robin]

how do I report a bug?

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @hard ivy

[twin robin]

everything really is automated...

[hard dawn]

People are not efficent 💀

[unkempt blade]

they are if you put them inside a factory cart

[hard dawn]

i actually have a automated goldn cart running around in my plutonium refinement

[cursive phoenix]

Diluted fuel into turbo fuel

[hard ivy]

3600 oil into 500 gens with turbofuel is pretty awful efficiency. you could do over 1000. unless those 500 are overclocked

[steel spoke]

well, this is unfortunate

can't set a valve to 66.667 cubic meters

gotta be 66.7

[hard ivy]

why would you ever want to set a valve to anything, nevermind 66 2/3

[steel spoke]

aluminum water feedback loop ruined forever

[twin robin]

trying to report a bug on the satisfactory website but cant find how to open a post, can only veiw them

[hard ivy]

log in

[dense violet]

directly feeding waste into fresh with a valve isn't a good option

also setting the valve to something doesn't help

[unkempt blade]

to only use 1/4 of a mk1 pipe 🙂

[hard dawn]

just sink it

[steel spoke]

set sloppy alumina to 200 per minute, which needs 166.667 water per minute, synced with the aluminum scrap, so that it takes exactly 200 alumina solution, and the aluminum scrap outputs 100 water, so i was going to send those 100 back to the sloppy alumina

[dense violet]

yes. if you're going to direct feed the waste into fresh, you don't need a setting on the valve
though you're better off with a powered pump instead

[hard ivy]

using valves for aluminium water is a terrible idea XD

[dense violet]

that being said, direct feeding waste into fresh is an unreliable method

[cursive phoenix]

Huh? I guess satisfactory calculator calculated it wrong im confused

[unkempt blade]

even an unpowered pump if you're just trying to prevent backflow

[hard ivy]

satisfactory calculator's production planner is an awful calculator

[dense violet]

unpowered pumps kill any headlift. Just power it

[cursive phoenix]

What do u reccomend than?

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[unkempt blade]

You don't need headlift if you're just going in a loop around refineries though. Output and input are on the same height

[steel spoke]

how exactly is it to work, then? does using a pump on the waste side pipe give it priority?

[dense violet]

if everything is flat or your feeding from above. Sure. But I'm also not sold pumps are as good at directionality without it

[dense violet]

no, valves are just really shit at stopping back flow

[steel spoke]

well, my objective isn't to stop backflow

[dense violet]

a powered pump has a better % of working in that situation

[dense violet]

well you don't want fluid backing up the waste water. so yes it is

[steel spoke]

it's to stop the pipes from carrying more from the fresh source than necessary

[dense violet]

.... clock the source

[hard dawn]

I need Coffestain to fix the hoverpack bug btw...
Or i cant get close to my Nuclear stuff again ever 💀

[steel spoke]

good idea too, didn't think of that

[unkempt blade]

valves limit flow but it's like based on the amount going through the pipe so if the pipe before the valve is less than 100% utilization it does it relative to that amount

[hard ivy]

a valve ain't gonna do that well

[dense violet]

also, don't do direct feeding if you have repeating decimals like this.
Even worse idea

it'll eventually clog up

[steel spoke]

sadly it isn't an infinite decimal, it does really end in 7

the game has been very understanding when infinite decimals are at play

[dense violet]

the important part is what the water extractor is set to
if it has a repeating decimal on it's clocking

[dense violet]

it's a lot easier keeping fresh and waste seperate, like this

blue is fresh, red is waste https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1347741162018046083/1347747308623892551/image.png?ex=68ebb13e&is=68ea5fbe&hm=799e3c930772ec91e9a115803ac5b0a09a4d9c3664a9d6ce03b1aff0721b16d2&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[hard ivy]

I sincerely doubt you have exactly 66.67 water, and not 66.(6)

[unkempt blade]

this is why the best lazy pioneers just turn output water into wet concrete

[steel spoke]

actually true, since 66.667x3 is 200.001

[zenith pecan]

The repeating decimals showing are when I realise yeah that clock speed and recipe isn't working for me 🙂

[steel spoke]

all the other times i had repeating decimals didn't round the last number, that is the origin of my confusion

[zenith pecan]

That happening is why I used standard screws in my oscillator factory, because the numbers were clean.

[steel spoke]

but then again i can't recall if they were under or above 5 so the rounding was probably right every time

[steel spoke]

are those all running at 100%?

[dense violet]

yes? it's the most reliable method of recycling waste

basically unbreakable

you can use this method later for hte nuclear chain and dark matter residue

[zenith pecan]

You remember the disaster that was mine before it was simplified to 20 clusters of refineries with this system 😄

[dense violet]

when you tried linking up all your bauxite systems into 1?

[steel spoke]

but they aren't always running at a 100%, are they? the two fed by the waste need 400 water while they're only getting 360

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, my attempt at a cascade wastewater system that was amazing at clogging the whole thing in under two minutes.

[dense violet]

you clock them to need what they need

[steel spoke]

i see

[dense violet]

examples https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1364891243641049098/ratios.png?ex=68eb7086&is=68ea1f06&hm=94bdeb42ca0e77584deea9628c868c3a791ae8125e6fbb2c36bfefcba6cd38bf&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[dense violet]

you really need to think about clocking more

it is the single most powerful logistic tool you have the whole game

[dense violet]

those examples in the link is for sloppy solution and electrode scrap.

you'd need different ones for dif recipes

[steel spoke]

i do it fairly often, i just thought they were running at 100% when i asked and you replied yes 💀

[dense violet]

oh I thoguht you meant the up time

not the clocking

[steel spoke]

ye

[zenith pecan]

Here's how not to build wastewater in bauxite https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1379199612908474409 it chronicles my failure and the assistance I had fixing it.

[steel spoke]

apologies for not specifying

[dense violet]

eh it's fine, no real issues caused

[steel spoke]

i'll try this method out, though it's with regular aluminum scrap instead

i'll look at the ratios first

[dense violet]

these are examples of the ratiors for all the recipe combos.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1286300794311938099/1286343954157277307/alum_options.png?ex=68eb1c69&is=68e9cae9&hm=e993d060e3e547f6886ea49d525ab1831676c38ce453174fdef66806edfdaa07&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=860&height=1216

[steel spoke]

damn, where are you getting all of these

[dense violet]

you of course don't have to set them up exactly like this. Just so the clockings match

[dense violet]

well the first ones are mine that I made to help people

the last one is from the pipe manual

[steel spoke]

wowzah, very good

[dense violet]

This is one of the most common logistical issue people have , and I help with pipes a lot xD

the other most common issue is people not realising mk1 pipes can only move 300 water pm to their coal gens

[zenith pecan]

Pipes can be funky when you don't leep them simple.

[steel spoke]

i wish i could've pulled off the valve thing, it seemed great until it included repeating decimals

[zenith pecan]

And on top of that. they see then 8:3 and don't use the described pipe layout for mk1's

[dense violet]

in general just avoid valves. They are kinda weird and not as reliable as other methods

[steel spoke]

noted

[dense violet]

same with fluid buffers in basically any situation that isn't train buffers

[zenith pecan]

Ahh buffers, they can be used to make stuff look cool, but they are infamous things for hiding issues that snarl up the entire thign.

[dense violet]

yup, just clip pipes through buffers if you want cool shit w/o problems

[zenith pecan]

They do make good accumulators at rail stations as already mentioned, other than that, less ideal 🤣

[old widget]

Anyone have a very fast strategy for making a decent looking train track? The blueprints I’ve made are difficult to place at varying elevations and snapping the power and tracks is very tedious.

It takes me a lot of flying around to get stuff how I want it

[twin robin]

blueprints help

[lethal scroll]

bruh I was just manually crafting some shotgun rebar at my quartz plant and a lil stabber just started attacking me out of NOWHERE... where tf did it come from 💀

[old widget]

I’ve made some but it’s kind of difficult to get them to snap together. I’m curious what other people do when making elevated platforms

[twin robin]

use blueprint auto connect, snaps plus auto rail connection

[old widget]

The elevation is never where I want it

Is this like a mod or something

[twin robin]

nah, base game, like deafult and "zoop" or belt options

[old widget]

Ah interesting ok

[dense violet]

zoop a pathing line of foundations the entire way

make blueprinted pylongs that hold tracks on them, print them on the path you made

connect it all up

[old widget]

Pylongs?

[twin robin]

oh and blueprints for spirals

[dense violet]

pylons*

things that hold the tracksup

[feral geyser]

Damn, I'm back after week and the person I was talking to is gone now

[rigid mist]

i am at 56 metres below my factory floor and i am only just now starting the metro

[dense violet]

like this #design-and-architecture message

or this #design-and-architecture message

(an older one that isn't very nice looking but very tidy

[twin robin]

fyi keep inventory is buged and can delete (not just drop) inventorys, so probaly a good idea for sommersloops and mercersphers to be in dimensional storage

[feral geyser]

Are you sure it's not just merging dismantle crates?

[frail sleet]

You do if you're connecting multiple competing fluid sources. Lower headlift gets deprioritised, so the line with the unpowered pump won't flow properly.

VIP junctions that don't rely on the junction bug DO rely on this behavior, with a powered pump on one line and an unpowered one on the other.

[twin robin]

this is when dying with keep inventory, no crate should even happen

also a softlock / map collision bug

cords are (-3200, -525)

but prob can oucur other places to

[true mulch]

singleplayer? modded?

[twin robin]

no mods, single, official mainline branch

[true mulch]

you can load an autosave when you experience something like that

[twin robin]

yeah, also softlocked

had to load 1h ago

[true mulch]

load immediately after you die

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
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[true mulch]

^ for bug reports

[twin robin]

yeah submited one, just saying to be carful with map limited objects

[autumn lantern]

how do i get mycelia?

[white dawn]

Personally, up to maybe 1.5-2km one-way

My longest tractor route on my 1.0 save was actually a little over 6km round trip, making a wide loop that made four stops (pick up resin byproduct from fuel power, drop it off at computer+HSC factory, pick up computers+HSC, drop those off at my Central Storage)

[true mulch]

by cutting down mushroom looking stuff

tends to be found in caves and such, some biomes have it all over the place

[autumn lantern]

yea but is there a way to get renewable mycelia/fabric?

[true mulch]

polyester fabric recipe

[twin robin]

mam research

[white dawn]

Yes re: fabric (research in the MAM), no re: mycelia itself

Requires oil

[true mulch]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Fabric

[white dawn]

be the bot you want to see in the world! 🌈

[autumn lantern]

thanks

[hushed canopy]

trying to figure out aluminum production, ill return to this when i can do some beer math with an 8 pack

im apparently over flowing and its probaply something to do with the 12 cubic meters and 4 cubic meter stuff

[white dawn]

If it's the water "recycling" you're having problems with, my usual recommendation is to process the waste/recycled water in a totally different bank of machines than the ones using "fresh" water. Use underclocking/overclocking so that the ratios work out all right. For a couple of examples (one tiny factory using vanilla recipes, another using sloppy+electrode): #math-and-meta message

[charred widget]

Rn I just got to coal, I'm wondering if yall recommend building hubs for specific materials or hubs that have ore input but do everything ranging from smelting to making the ingredients until I have the final output of advanced parts. I was originally gonna do the first option but unlike factorio I feel there's a lot less need to belt share, and crafters are essentially free in the long run so it's fine to simply deliver optimal ore ratios to my structures and not care that certain crafters don't have full uptime

[true mulch]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency
ore in, result out

[old widget]

Ok that’s the solution I was looking for in the first picture. I made myself a problem that should have never been a problem with my blueprints

@dense violet Ty

The ones I made were too difficult to snap

[charred widget]

Okay cool just making sure that strategy scales fine. Only downside is I think it's kinda ugly

[true mulch]

how so?

I mean there's no "scaling", the same amount of machines make the same product

[charred widget]

Less uniform structures like "this is my smelter array building"

[true mulch]

except in one case you have to deal with ratios and distributing stuff and such, and in the other you just don't

you can still have that, just within that factory

[charred widget]

That's true

[true mulch]

a single factory can also produce multiple parts, it's useful to merge them if they share inputs

[ember moon]

Being tired and reading satisfactory chat has to be the most confusing thing I have ever read 😭

[true mulch]

e.g. you can have one factory for computers, oscillators, HSC, etc.

[prime rampart]

BRO TRAINS R SO TIME CONSUMING

tell me there is a faster way to place down train/foundations

[ember moon]

once you get them set up its so fun

[prime rampart]

thats true

im redoing it rn

ive got 3destinations done

time for the farthest one

[charred widget]

Also is it okay to not use cars? The throughput seems amazing on them but I don't like how the dang car keeps disappearing randomly and I imagine it's a bit CPU intensive if it keeps that loaded.

I'm thinking I just have miners with t2 belts into splitters then just transport the gigantic belt spaghetti to my base. Does anyone else do that?

[shrewd palm]

the upside is that once you're done with a train network around the map you probably wont have to worry about it ever again

[true mulch]

or maybe, look at it this way: instead of having a uniform "this is my smelter array building", you can look at it as "this is my (complete) rotor+motor factory building"

[ember moon]

yep

Saves on performance enough

[prime rampart]

OH MY GOAT WHO MADE ME LEARN ABOUT TRAINS

[ember moon]

seeing as I recently had a scare where my cpu got so hot it shut off my system

and I have a 7700xt

but my cpu is a 5 3600

12 threads

[true mulch]

far away cars are just faked (teleported along points on their path, their map position is interpolated)
I don't use them because I don't find them much more faster to set up than belts while being constrained by the need to supply fuel
I either run long belt stacks or extensively use trains

[shrewd palm]

^^

[charred widget]

Think it could be a RAM issue for you?

[true mulch]

that shouldn't ever be happening unless you live in a desert or something, you should check if the thermal paste is applied correctly and if the plastic cover was removed from the cooler

[ember moon]

32gb ram for me

[ember moon]

yeah thermals is correctly applied

[polar leaf]

Guys is a train with 24 freight cars a good idea

[ember moon]

It never happened at my house but did at my uni flat which is where I currently reside

[charred widget]

I'm looking forward to trains. Tbh I started abt a week ago then had to go on vacation and have just been mentally planning the whole time

[polar leaf]

12000 bauxite /min

[charred widget]

Rn I'm actually torn on if I should do a new satisfactory game or a factorio game

[true mulch]

good luck with inclines

[ember moon]

cant even get a satisfactory game past steel tbh

[mortal ginkgo]

cant he handle it well with like 4 heads?

[ember moon]

I get a massive coal plant set up but quit on steel

[true mulch]

steel? that's the early game 😭

[polar leaf]

Can't I just put 5 locomotives?

Actually 6

Choo choo

[true mulch]

depends if it's 1m/2m ramps and how long it is

[ember moon]

I know but like its so time consuming for my head to get around

[true mulch]

iirc 1:6 should suffice on either 1m or 2m ramps

[ember moon]

And all my shit is so ineffective

[polar leaf]

Can't 1 locomotive carry 4 freight full cars no matter what?

[reef basin]

Factorio obv

[mortal ginkgo]

I would say "just put more choo choo bro" is the answer

[true mulch]

afaik 3m slopes (achievable with beams) require a 1:3 ratio

[mortal ginkgo]

should we always have that much of choo choo if we want to go 4m slope even with a smol train?

[true mulch]

you can use a configuration that you put 1 loco in the front and the rest in the back

[mortal ginkgo]

Isn't that abit... much?

[true mulch]

you can't have 4m slopes

[polar leaf]

Yeah no at max 2m ramps

[true mulch]

the "3m ramp" equivalent is the steepest you can go, achievable with beams

[polar leaf]

Also I don't think the freight cars will fill at 600 /min either way

[mortal ginkgo]

oh interesting

[true mulch]

you can just calculate that

measure how long a round trip takes

you have X stacks per round trip, so you need to load that into roundup(X/32) freight cars

a 24 freight train seems a bit extreme to manage given the length of blocks and intersections, I would consider several shorter trains instead, but that depends on how your railway network is set up

[polar leaf]

What's the chance if I put 3 30 long trains in my global network for the traffic to be shit

[true mulch]

unless you're running it on an isolated system

I would be worried they'd deadlock intersections more than anything lol

[zenith pecan]

Imagine if someone actually used that 400 car train I made back i update 7 for an experiment.

[polar leaf]

Fuck around find out I guess

[polar leaf]

Josh is that u

Do we have info on how long was Josh's train?

[zenith pecan]

Not sure, mine snaked all over the dunes, and managed a whopping 13kn/h with one locomotive.

[zenith pecan]

Heres the train haphazardly strewn accross the sand #satisfactory-experimental message

[mortal ginkgo]

bro here trying to see if he can make a factory on a train

[polar leaf]

You should have used flex rails

[polar leaf]

Why isn't there any factory game about that

It'd be cool now that I think of it

[mortal ginkgo]

ngl I thought about it too but I guess it would be too limiting

[true mulch]

I think it could work

it would be comparable to designing a PCB

where space efficiency is extremely valuable

[zenith pecan]

All that track was just to make the train, I coiled up all 400 cars onto a small circle of track for a physics busting crash experiment, some rail cars made low orbit.

[polar leaf]

Id 100% make it crash on itself

[zenith pecan]

Heres the experiment #satisfactory-experimental message

[polar leaf]

lol 😭 it's raining trains

[prime rampart]

trying the train rn!

was this massive time really worth it

[polar leaf]

Share with us

[prime rampart]

the train route?

[hollow lance]

I just realized that you can dismantle those aircraft debris

[prime rampart]

i cant record<:

[polar leaf]

Aircrarft?

Bro playing war thunder 😭

[plucky flower]

Quick question, im about to make a new savefile, I had the other one at phase 2 but hated the biome, northen forest looks really cool but is it really that hard or is that just to scare of

[tribal pelican]

guys i found a way to bunnyhop on SLOPES

and also how to avoid fall damage along with it

[sullen gull]

Going down or up em?

[polar leaf]

Cap

[unkempt blade]

like jetpacking or parachuting?

[amber heath]

i just met a stinger for the first time and they're fast as shit (it was the smallest one and it scared the shit out of me)

[tribal pelican]

nah without any of that

[sullen gull]

You participating in that factory cart race? 😏

[tribal pelican]

but the slopes must be UNDER 45 angle

[mortal ginkgo]

its quite vertical, however really good resource wise

[tribal pelican]

basicly u start on a normal ground start bunny hopping and then go onto the slope and as soon as ur going to hit the ground turn 90 degress horizontaly then after touching the ground while on that side direction bunny hope and look back again

[plucky flower]

Okay vertical isnt really a problem, higher foundations or levels with foundations will work right?

[mortal ginkgo]

building vertically will be surely fine

[polar leaf]

Too much trouble

🙏

Tryharding bunny hopping in a factory single player game is next level

[tribal pelican]

bro its just jumping on a slope and looking left or right then instantly rotating back

like it sounds hard but it isnt because it isnt like the bunnyhop is slower on slopes

[mortal ginkgo]

You could also make a zipline system to go around just like I did 😄

[polar leaf]

Ok but I can just ionized fuel or sum and tap space

[sullen gull]

But .. But ... what if they can't turn left? 😏

[unkempt blade]

you're never going to win the annual Mirage Marathon with that kind of attitude

[mortal ginkgo]

oh please God no, not this, blz bro, BRO BLZ

[polar leaf]

🙏

[tribal pelican]

im only done with phase 1 elevator 💔

well i did have a savefile with phase 3 but i cheated a little so im not counting it

[viscid bobcat]

how to make pipes go straight up?

like elevate them without them going horizontally

[tribal pelican]

you wont

[sullen gull]

Use somthing as a scaffold... walls, beams, pillars

[tribal pelican]

idk how to do it either bro 🙏

[sullen gull]

And delete after

[unkempt blade]

he may not be able to help himself, he might just be really really really ridiculously good looking and the not turning left thing is a side effect

[viscid bobcat]

I was thinking pipeline junctions like vertical

but then would that leave a loose end?

nvm figured it out

you just make a vertical pipeline junction

[sullen gull]

Just use pipe wall adapters as snap points ...

and delete after

[mortal ginkgo]

btw I checked Grass Fields, it really REALLY looks like a bad start location wise.

I am glad to be a Rocky Desert boi

[viscid bobcat]

dont got pipe walls

[polar leaf]

Rocky desert is the best one 🙏

[mortal ginkgo]

I will fayt irl with anyone says otherwise yes indeed my brother

[sullen gull]

Ahh, need some coupons for the awesome shop 😏

[amber heath]

is it for experienced pioneers as the game says or should i have started there anyway?

[polar leaf]

You literally have every pure node you need until phase 3 within 500 meters and water 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[viscid bobcat]

what is that

[polar leaf]

And it's flat

[unkempt blade]

pretty sure rocky is one of the two "beginner" starts

[amber heath]

the desert?

[viscid bobcat]

whats the awesome shop

[polar leaf]

Rocky

[unkempt blade]

you might be thinking of the dunes

[sullen gull]

Not sure what phase you're on, but check under the Special category under the build menu

[amber heath]

ohhh

[polar leaf]

A good shop

[mortal ginkgo]

Yup, top for coal, bottom for oil, west for water, east for my mom

[amber heath]

yeah

[sullen gull]

Poor mom

[polar leaf]

Technically it doesn't have any oil but I count as it does

[mortal ginkgo]

She will learn the hard way to survive

[polar leaf]

Oil is like 200 meters south from rocky desert it's in another biome but still

[viscid bobcat]

So I automated computers before discovering the awesome shop??

[mortal ginkgo]

it is so close that you might say they are together

[viscid bobcat]

WHAT THE FUCK

[amber heath]

does the grassy one have oil nearby or decently nearby?

[sullen gull]

What ever is clever for you mate

[mortal ginkgo]

bro legit playing hard mode

[polar leaf]

Not really

[amber heath]

damn

[polar leaf]

It has oil to the west that isn't that hard to access but it's like 2km away

[amber heath]

so i just kinda fucked up by starting here

[amber heath]

2km isnt too bad tho

[unkempt blade]

the first thing you should unlock is factory carts, the rest can wait until phase 4

[mortal ginkgo]

Map is smaller than it looks but still.

[sullen gull]

You can just leave what you have built and go start building elsewhere

[amber heath]

that feels kinda horrible

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-why-confused-jack-black-gif-8714598

[amber heath]

cuz i wanna keep what i built bro

[polar leaf]

Super Massive embed fail

[amber heath]

yeah

[unkempt blade]

you can keep it, just walk to another area and visit the old stuff later 😄

[polar leaf]

You can keep it bro just bring some power to where the oil is. It's not that hard 😭

[sullen gull]

Lol, I just said, keep it built/running, and just go build other stuff elsewhere on the map

[amber heath]

yeah thats what i thought too

[mortal ginkgo]

I think I know why: It is kind of a "Home Syndrome" where you don't want to leave the starter place completely even if there is no cost.

Mostly happen with Dyson Sphere Program where the worst planet is the starter planet yet many don't even want to leave it despite other plantes having 10x more resources.

[amber heath]

oh thats what u meant

[amber heath]

i thought u meant abandon and go start up somewhere else

[sullen gull]

Not really, I am aware that gif's don't embed, still gets the point across though.

[mortal ginkgo]

You CAN still delete stuff. You ain't losing much but yeah, you don't have to delete your old base. Just go somewhere better.

[mortal ginkgo]

Not a fail, I clicked it. 🙂‍↕️

[amber heath]

nah honestly i aint gonna go anywhere, when i make a new world i'll start elsewhere

[sullen gull]

ANd then later, if you want to rebuild the old factory you can.

[polar leaf]

Can relate

[unkempt blade]

Yeah Satisfactory makes you roam a little bit at least to get scarcer resources but it's definitely not the same push as finite resource games like that will do

[viscid bobcat]

do manifolds work on pipes?

[sullen gull]

But, remember the game intends for one to spread out. Trying to make a central megabase can be a super pita

[polar leaf]

I had like 6 70+ hours save before starting seriously

Not counting the dedicated servers too

[sullen gull]

Pipes do not work the same as belts. Try to keep fluids in a loop

[amber heath]

yeah, no i will

[mortal ginkgo]

Heck, most people just make the resources infinite in other games that "forces" you.

[viscid bobcat]

wdym

[sullen gull]

When using pipes in a "manifold" you can end up with something similar to a "pressure drop" towards the end of it.

[unkempt blade]

I should try that game again and just turn off all the combat stuff... I found that pretty unfun last time

[viscid bobcat]

my entire world is built on pipe manifolds

my entire oil power plant design is build around pipe manifolds

[sullen gull]

The "design" or have you built it yet?

[viscid bobcat]

you're about to make me depressed tinker

[polar leaf]

That happened to me I should've had 600 turbo fuel /min at the end but it was oscillating slightly lower

[mortal ginkgo]

Meanwhile I increased the difficulty with mods 😄

Max difficulty is literal hell at start but the default difficulty is really chill. You shouldn't completely turn it off as enemy drops are needed for some end game buildings.

[sullen gull]

You can "manifold" it, what I am saying is that you will want to "feed" it from mutiple locations. Starting at the ends and working towards the center.

[viscid bobcat]

look in design and architecture

[polar leaf]

I fixed it by increasing the altitude of the machines while keeping the pipe lower

[viscid bobcat]

my refineries are on a manifold, my oil power plants are on manifold, my plastic and rubber production is on a manifold

also wdym by a pressure drop

[sullen gull]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/3/39/Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[viscid bobcat]

can't a pump just fix that

[sullen gull]

When you are using a manifold, being fed from only one end, what happens is that the pipe segments won't be full towards the end of the manifold. When a pipe section is not full, the next ones down the line CANNOT achieve max flow.

[viscid bobcat]

but I always spin up my oil extractors and fill up all the pipes before starting my system

[sullen gull]

So, you can still use manifolds, you just can't feed them from a single end like belts (if they are really long and trying to use max pipe amount)

[viscid bobcat]

is 10 ok?

[sullen gull]

and no, pumps ONLY affect how HIGH the fluid can go (head lift)

[trail marsh]

is there something like a blue print gallery you can get pre created blue prints from others?

[viscid bobcat]

I always fill my pipes up until moving on to the next part of the system

[sullen gull]

satisfactory-calulator dot com and satisfactoryblueprints.com

[viscid bobcat]

I never let my manifolds just go until they fill up

[trail marsh]

sick, thanks

[viscid bobcat]

if that makes a difference

[polar leaf]

@sullen gull rate my recycling blueprint

[sullen gull]

With a straight manifold being fed from one end, prefilling will only delay. It will eventually have issues.

[polar leaf]

#screenshots message

[sullen gull]

for aluminum?

[polar leaf]

Yes

[viscid bobcat]

🤦‍♂️

so what do I do

[polar leaf]

That's an unpowered pump

[sullen gull]

Feed from both ends of the manifold. The "common" coal gen setups have some ideas:

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[viscid bobcat]

wait wait

my coal generators are on a manifold

and they havent had an issue since hour 30, im on hour 68

[sullen gull]

How many do you have?

[viscid bobcat]

24 on each end, like 8 per manifold I think

so 48 in total

what is the limit to the pipe manifold?

[sullen gull]

The "common" setups assume one is using banks of 8, which each bank should use 360m^3 water

Double check to see if you have one or two in each bank of 8 not getting enough water and "stuttering"

[viscid bobcat]

my production of power is completely flat

[sullen gull]

Looks good if it's working. Recylcing waste fluid can be "tricky"

[viscid bobcat]

completely flat, not a single megawatt off

maybe I am overfeeding tho

been so long since I looked at that coal power plant

[sullen gull]

If I had to guess, I'd assume you are already feeding it from multiple points

[viscid bobcat]

im across the map

and I dont have hypertube access to my main base

im kinda on a journey right now

[sullen gull]

Make a HT cannon in the blueprint designer 😏

[viscid bobcat]

i dont really feel like checking right now

whats a blueprint designer

[unkempt blade]

did you not unlock it yet?

[sullen gull]

Under the "special" tab of the build menu. Allows for making things already built up.

[viscid bobcat]

nah im just joking with you

nah but anyway

so what I have to do is I split the pipe, and then I feed it through 2 ends?

[unkempt blade]

sorry the awesome shop thing hurt my faith in humanity 😆

[sullen gull]

Or just provide a "loop-back"... A pipe going from one end of the manifold to the other.

[viscid bobcat]

look in design and architecture

pipe junction will always equally split right?

[polar leaf]

Apparently they don't work the same in all directions

[sullen gull]

So long as the "loop" stays full, it shouldn't be an issue.

[polar leaf]

There has been some research about it

I don't remember now but it seems its slower going south-north than north-south

[sullen gull]

Oh boy ... do tell

[polar leaf]

Or the opposite I can't remember now

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/s/MZ2TpuFPx4

[sullen gull]

Oi vey 🤦‍♂️ ... Oki doki then lol.

[plucky flower]

Dang I dont even have arachnaphobia but the stingers got me scared so many times and made me scared in general of them so I had to toggle on arachnaphobia

:<

[warm basin]

moze zechce ktos podpowiedziec co z ta winda nie chce przeskoczyc na poziom 3?

[polar leaf]

You could play on retaliate mode too

Either retaliate / passive

[sullen gull]

Sorry mate, English only preferred here.

[polar leaf]

Personally I play on retaliate and when I go explore I turn on normal mode

[sullen gull]

I just wish retaliate actually worked heh

[polar leaf]

It does?

[sullen gull]

I have not had one thing fight back after hitting it, and I have been on retaliate for a long while now

In multiple saves.

[polar leaf]

It works normally for me

[amber heath]

does the conveyor merger have a transfering limit?

[feral geyser]

Output speed

[amber heath]

yeah

does it?

[sullen gull]

Heeeey, wb 😏

[feral geyser]

I'm back, baby 😏

[amber heath]

does it have an output speed limit

[sullen gull]

Yeah, the belt speed

[feral geyser]

Just the output belt

[amber heath]

nah cuz mine is messing up somehow

oh wait

[polar leaf]

Actually relatiate isn't working

[amber heath]

i might know nvm

[polar leaf]

It was a while back idk if it broke on 1.1 or 1.0

[sullen gull]

I believe it was 1.1 if I recall

[polar leaf]

Or maybe it's because I have AGS on

Did they fix on experimental?

[sullen gull]

Those saves I was referring were without AGS

[polar leaf]

Someone must have reported it already

[sullen gull]

Not sure, havn't switched because mods 😏

[polar leaf]

I play without AGS but I'm on my modded save making blueprints

[sullen gull]

same

[polar leaf]

Ngl it's the best thing to just turn on some music look at the planner and design blueprints

[pale dew]

How to change the rebars that rebar gun uses?

cuz i cant find any way

and i want to check out the quartz ones

[sullen gull]

Haha, exactly what am doing now lol. #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Hold R

[pale dew]

ty

[polar leaf]

Those are the 48x48x48 or the 24 ones?

[amber heath]

i have 2 mk1 miners overclocked to 120 each, and the conveyor belt is an mk2 one and when it goes into the merger it like lags into it if u know what i mean, and after the merger i have mk3 conveyors everywhere

[sullen gull]

48x48 tall 😛

[polar leaf]

I generally use the 12x12x12 but when I want to merge two big blueprints I use the 48 one

I'm designing the alumina thing rn I switched the smelters from above the refineries to below

It looks cleaner

Wrong reply

🔥

[sullen gull]

120*3 is 360. The mk3 is only 270/min

[amber heath]

120*2 is 240

[sullen gull]

Oh duh, you did say 2 miners ... Ugh, maybe I should just go back to sleep 🤣

[amber heath]

perhaps you should lol

nah but do you know the issue then or nah?

[pale dew]

one more question how do i get rid of the fly spowners

[sullen gull]

Not sure. If you have unlocked throughput counter, maybe put one of those on the mk3 belt

[pale dew]

spawner plants

can i boom it ?

[amber heath]

what's that?

[sullen gull]

You can approach them while crouched and they won't open. Using the bass boost on the boom box will kill the flys, but not the hatcher.

[pale dew]

Exploding them does not work.

[sullen gull]

It's attaches to belts and shows current throughput.

[amber heath]

from the awesome shop im assuming?

[sullen gull]

Using which ammo? It may just take a few shots

[amber heath]

cool, i'll try

[pale dew]

only got me a rebar gun.

[amber heath]

i dont have it unlocked

[sullen gull]

The quartz ammo, stun I believe, only stuns them iirc. Any of the other ammos should damage them I think.

[grizzled ivy]

i hate dealing with water in this game

[pale dew]

quartz is the shotgun

[sullen gull]

create loops, check headlift

[grizzled ivy]

always some weird issue

[feral geyser]

Seems like you might have a choke point further up the belt

[grizzled ivy]

did both, didnt fix

[amber heath]

i triple checked everything

[sullen gull]

If you're setup for others to join, you're welcome to DM me the link and I can help if you'd like.

[pale dew]

I just learned ou can stop parachutinmg by clicking c

[grizzled ivy]

err, its a dedicated server. dont really want to leak the ip to anyone

[sullen gull]

Ahh, no worries, that's fair.

[amber heath]

im stupid, you were right

[sullen gull]

Screen shots then

[sullen gull]

Happens to the best of us mate.

[feral geyser]

First off, don't use that word please (even if it's about yourself)

[amber heath]

nah cuz i did triple check

oh mb

[feral geyser]

Second, good to know you fixed it

[grizzled ivy]

sure hold on a second i can get screenshots. its a tightly packed logistics floor though so quite messy

[amber heath]

yeah, thank you

[sullen gull]

DM me the start point (extractor setup) and how it's getting there. Then the setup you have for the machines.

[pale dew]

is there any way i can get 50 plastic and 200 smokeless powder? pre phase 3?

[sullen gull]

You may be able to find enough laying around wrecks

Plastic for sure. Not sure about powder

[pale dew]

i really want the expolsive rebar

[sullen gull]

You can also find that laying around as well.

[pale dew]

well i guess this is the time i build 20 entrance hyper cannon

[sullen gull]

Or also tame some doggoes and they could potentially bring you some 😏

[pale dew]

huh

no way you can tame here?

also i looked at the list

[grizzled ivy]

done

[pale dew]

theres no smokeless powder around wrecks

but theres 18 explosive rebar total around all

[feral geyser]

You generally got make that stuff

Ammo factory is an excellent project

[pale dew]

but i want it NOW

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

blocked embed :(

[real shale]

Compose the notes and write them into a blood song

[surreal meteor]

Is this why people think CSS will add golf? https://lizarddoggo.com/products/ficsit-dimpled-utility-orb-not-a-golf-ball

[real shale]

whats a golf?

these are dimpled utility orbs

[warped hatch]

Yo i have 20 coal generators that are all operational why is the grid only showing 750mw of power?

[hard ivy]

some are probably disconnected from the network

[sullen gull]

It's find, the link is still there though, we get it 🙂

[cosmic pawn]

is it normal for a single constructor to take 4 seconds to make 2 iron plates with one power shard in it

[pale dew]

yes

it says in the constructor how long it will take

100% power makes 2 per 6s, 150 makes 2 per 4, and so on

[cosmic pawn]

ik but should i add more power shards to speed up plate production so i can make reinforced plates quicker

[pale dew]

no

just make a factory using ratioes

if youre in early game i wouldnt recomend

[cosmic pawn]

also my iron rods are being made so slow

[pale dew]

just use more construction

its 15 rods per min

just make more

[cosmic pawn]

it's going at 150%

[pale dew]

i have 3 constructors for plates and 10 for rods

no need for overclocking

[cosmic pawn]

i only have one

due to power rn

[mortal ginkgo]

the only things that you need to use shards at early game is miners as there is no other way of increasing ore output other than finding another source

[cosmic pawn]

even with 8 coal gens im only making like 300w

[pale dew]

then instead of putting dumb powerstrain just use more constructors

much more effective

[cosmic pawn]

300-500w idk which one is right

[pale dew]

max capacity

[cosmic pawn]

ah ok

so 500w rn

[pale dew]

light gray

im producing 2400 early game

its 3x more then i need

[cosmic pawn]

but idk how to make my factory more efficient and not look like a mess

[pale dew]

thats the neat part

you dont

[cosmic pawn]

so spaghetti conveyers is still ok?

[pale dew]

yeah

my conveyors are going thru foundations and machines

idgaf i just want it to work

[shadow crown]

is the consumption of a bioburner the same as the consumption of 2 bio burners?
just spread out between the two?

[cosmic pawn]

i'll have to remake the whole thing now

[pale dew]

pretty sure its spread out but it doesnt make a difference either way

[cosmic pawn]

oh i forgot i had another conveyor full of iron

[pale dew]

first time?

[cosmic pawn]

yes

[pale dew]

same ive remade my factory like 4 times by now

[cosmic pawn]

well first time playing the game or?

first time remaking?

[pale dew]

only 26 h

both

[cosmic pawn]

i've remade it twice now

[pale dew]

Use calculators

[cosmic pawn]

i have copper stuff making but that is going smoothly rn

[pale dew]

they will tell you what ratioes you need

[cosmic pawn]

which calculator is good?

i am not that smart

[sullen gull]

Personal preference. In your case, i would say use Satisfactory Tools, as it comes up with recipes and such for you. If you want a more "manual"(though it still auto-calcs) setup method, then Satisfactory Modeler is good as well.

[pale dew]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production this is pretty simple

[cosmic pawn]

i can try to figure out how to use that one

[pale dew]

it should be open on what i created

the 10/min iron reinforced plte

[hard ivy]

the only one's that's bad is Satisfactory Calculator. every single other one is good at least for some people

[hard ivy]

you sent the link to the calculator, not any of your plans

[pale dew]

Oh

[cosmic pawn]

it wasn't

[pale dew]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=7KyVgRPtbNLGVUKTPjvk

[hard ivy]

you need to use the share button to share a production line

[pale dew]

this the longest one

[pale dew]

it didnt copy at ffirst

i have no idea how to set up the type of miner and node here tho

pretty sure in the building tab it says for miner mk1 on a bad node

[cosmic pawn]

it says you have 4 smelters?

would i use 2 splitters for that?

[pale dew]

if you make 60/min per miner yeah

1 on each line

idk how this website works, ive been using a different one

[shadow crown]

alright thanks

[sullen gull]

Out of curiosity, why is the SC one bad again?

[pale dew]

ive been using the github one

but it says just clear ratio of buildings

and doesnt allow you to put your ore input in

[hard ivy]

1. Makes mistakes
2. Slow
3. Riddled with ads
4. It chooses recipes based on the order you selected them in (it doesn't optimize for anything)
5. Incapable of dealing with item loops and has issues with byproducts

[sullen gull]

Ahh, on the ads portion, ad block (ublock) helps 🤣

And I don't feel guilty as I do sub to Anthor's patreon only because I use SCIM ALOT...

[pale dew]

why cant someone make a good calculator

[hard ivy]

wdym? SFTools is very good

[pale dew]

it doesnt let me chose what miners and what nodes you have

the github one does.

each have minuses

[hard ivy]

it lets you set a limit for each ore

but I don't use that feature anyway

[amber heath]

would someone be able to help me in the questions and help tab? i've waited for an answer for an hour

[pale dew]

yeah but thats dumb

github one doesnt round up tho

[hard ivy]

you might wanna use modeler then

[pale dew]

so you have like 0.8 miners into 2.5 smelters

[spark needle]

Alguém br pra jogar ?

Br ?

[hard ivy]

that's how all calculators work XD

[pale dew]

i mean the sftools gave me rounded up tho

[hard ivy]

it doesn't round anything up

[pale dew]

really?\

maybe just a lucky production line?

oh yeah

lol mb then

[cosmic adder]

Oh man, yall want me to build factory with 4 inputs

Man, its gonna take "some" space

[cosmic pawn]

im guessing i should start using the mindset of "if it work, it works" even if it's a pile of conveyors

[cosmic adder]

Spagethi..

Yep, if it works, leave it alone

[pale dew]

FINALLY IM DONE WITH PHASE 2 YEAHHHHHHHHH

[cosmic pawn]

i got the reinforced going an well

[pale dew]

trains? noway

[cosmic pawn]

it's a mess but it works

[pale dew]

hell yeah

[cosmic pawn]

now i am gonna tear down the other side and use that space for automating rotors and stuff

[cosmic adder]

If recommend making automated factpry for each thing, from rods to whatever ya making

[pale dew]

https://imgur.com/a/SHwpePy

[cosmic adder]

I always was out of stuff, now i have for most big things

[pale dew]

no spaghetti here

[cosmic pawn]

also is there a limit do how far i can go off the map with foundations?

even if they are just floating

[cosmic adder]

Should be

There always limits

[pale dew]

yes, but map is big enough

also what are you doing off map

in phase 1 im guessing

[cosmic pawn]

my base is near like -1149, 2469

[cosmic pawn]

i have access to coal

trying to get that phase going

[cosmic adder]

Why? I was like on edge of map. But i went bit deeper in map, and made platform in air

[cosmic pawn]

i just wanted to know my limits for expanding my foundations

[cosmic adder]

Find pure vein of coal..it can power everything..well a lot

[cosmic pawn]

i have a 3 vein thing going

trying to get steel milestone rn

[cosmic adder]

My pure coal was powering 5 coal generators, 2 steel factories..

With mk2 miner, was crazy ngl

[cosmic pawn]

when i get mk2 miner

and mk2 pipes

[cosmic adder]

Pipes are with oil so tier 6 i think. Miner is like tier 3-4

Im new also; so im just working on tier 6

[cosmic pawn]

i see

you know what i wish we had

corner ramps

[cosmic adder]

There are in FICSIT shop i think

[cosmic pawn]

they are

thank god. i had one corner that looked so ugly

[cosmic adder]

Yeah, also, i realised to late into game, abt DNA capsules

Research em asap!! Way to get tickets

[cosmic pawn]

good that i had exactly 5 tickets in the sink

enough to get the pack

[cosmic adder]

W

[cosmic pawn]

forgot i had the sink placed down

i have a use for my collection of copper wires

[cosmic adder]

Dump em there yeah lol

[pale dew]

can jetpack use coal?

:(

[sullen gull]

Imo, Liquid bio is what you want at this stage

[pale dew]

i mean i just made it

i jsut want to fly a bit

[limpid cairn]

biofuel

[cosmic adder]

I made fuel finally, takes me higher than biomass

[amber heath]

would someone please be able to help me with my conveyors? i've triple checked everything and i've been waiting for a reply for 2 hours and dont get any reply and im confused af

[sullen gull]

Higher isn't always better. LBF has the longest burn time until you get to the late late game one

[cosmic adder]

Whats LBF

[limpid cairn]

liquid biofuel

[sullen gull]

Liquid Bio Fuel

[limpid cairn]

fuel is worse than biofuel

[cosmic adder]

And yeah, i was looking for brun time; but it is longer than biofuel

[limpid cairn]

and turbo fuel is as good as LBF

[cosmic adder]

Ohh

[limpid cairn]

but worse imo

[sullen gull]

Turbo also has a very short burn time. Rocket is "ok" .. But ionized is the goat

[amber heath]

i think my splitters are eating my coal guys. i have a manifold and its full to a certain point and then it just doesnt fill anymore, the coal seems to be split even tho there's nothing to split it with

[cosmic adder]

So whats the best in low tiers? I unlocked oil and now onto 6th tier

[dim harbor]

rocket is great, by the time you can produce ionized you've finished the game

[sullen gull]

Personally I would still be using LBF, and carry some tf or rocket if I really need/want that "high boost"

[cosmic adder]

Whats LBF tho..

[sullen gull]

Not necessarily, but close, yeah. Truthfully though I just buy it from the shop 🤣

[cosmic adder]

And tf?

[sullen gull]

We've said it mate

[limpid cairn]

liquidbiofuel

[sullen gull]

Liquid bio fuel and turbofuel

[limpid cairn]

turbofuel

[cosmic adder]

How do i get it lol

[limpid cairn]

press o

[sullen gull]

Make it 😛

[cosmic adder]

Damn..almost did not think of it

Thanks lol

[cosmic pawn]

i just found out something by accident

[cosmic adder]

What did ya find out?

[cosmic pawn]

i can just replace a whole conveyor line just by clicking on it

[cosmic adder]

Yeah..to better one

Or worse

[cosmic pawn]

i always tore down the previous one

now i wont anymore lol

you learn new stuff every day

[dim harbor]

the latest thing i learned with conveyors was holding E while one conveyor was selected and you can quickly swap to other marks

[cosmic pawn]

forgot you can do that

[livid creek]

can someone do me a favor and load a save from me and check the fps?

[dim harbor]

true never thought about doing that, 8 tickets for 100 fuel, i think my sink output can handle that

[cunning siren]

Few days ago, I learned one can "swap" existing splitters and mergers while mouse over + CTRL 🤔 That blew my mind 🤯 😆

[barren raptor]

Hi how I can generate electricity to my machines?

[woeful kelp]

Hi guys I'm undecided whether to take this game, I really like the various mechanics but I'm afraid of getting bored easily, even if I know that the more you play it the more you struggle to disconnect

[cunning siren]

Many ways: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Power

[hard ivy]

generators. presumably biomass burners

[cunning siren]

I'm a big geotheremal fan... geo early... geo often

[white dawn]

(Note that "early" geothermal generally involves liberal scavenging from crash sites around the map)

[dim harbor]

you can use Constructors to turn your leaves and wood into biomass, and then into Solid Biomass and feed into Biomass Generators

that'll keep your factory running while you unlock Coal Generators!

[cunning siren]

It sounds like, you like parts of this game and sometimes you fear boredom and there may be some kind of struggle to disconnect going on? Can you tell us more about this?

[woeful kelp]

I explained myself badly, I haven't bought the game yet, I meant that the more you play it the more difficult it is to detach

[cunning siren]

That is "one way to do it", doggos gift plastic computers AND high speed connectors AND one can also use the awesome shop to buy plastic and high speed connectors "early" as well. (I'm sure you know this, more saying it for other folk)

[white dawn]

Oh, yeah, I do always forget the doggo angle actually; good point. :)

[white dawn]

Really depends on psychology, of course. Different folks respond differently to it. It's true that the folks who get hooked on it really get hooked on it

But even then there's degrees. I get pretty obsessed over the course of a playthrough but then I usually have a many-month (or even year+) gap before I do another playthrough

[primal mist]

I second this, even though i haven't played through the whole game

[white dawn]

In the end I don't think anyone'll be able to predict exactly how you respond to it. If you're unsure you can always wait for a sale so that you're "risking" less money, of course. Unfortunately with a game like this, storefronts' usual refund windows aren't especially useful, 'cause it's gonna take you far longer than 2 hours to discover if you really dig it or not

(In general, anyway. If you end up taking an instant dislike to it then that's a different thing. :)

[primal mist]

I got to the hoverpack and aluminum and then i took a 6 month break, and now i'm back from scratch and trying to finish it

[cunning siren]

OK, so it sounds like you are considering purchasing this game and also have a concern about attachment to it. The term, disassociation with video games is more often understood "these days", there are communities "all about this" if you are interested check out Healthy Gamer GG

[white dawn]

For me, it's tough to get back into an existing playthrough after a long break; I nearly always just end up starting over from scratch when that happens

[lethal scroll]

anyone else having trouble with street lamps that just... dont turn on? they're connected to the power, and other street lamps work fine. sometimes they work after scrapping and rebuilding them a couple of times. it's really inconsistent and annoying

on this blueprint, for example, all 4 lamps are connected, but consistently, only 2/4 turn on

idk whats wrong with them

[amber heath]

how many of each steel item do you reckon i should make for my first steel factory?

[real shale]

I heard someone say electricity and I have been summoned

[amber heath]

72 of each item?

[plucky flower]

My CPU has started to hate me. CPU temp 94⁰ C and 90% usage

[amber heath]

dude not 720

[plucky flower]

😂

[amber heath]

have u built a lot?

[plucky flower]

Yeah fire emoji lol. More like literal on fire

[amber heath]

lol yeah fr

[plucky flower]

No not even. Phase 2

[amber heath]

u kinda fucked then i think

[plucky flower]

The laptop is a Alienware 13R3 from 2012

[amber heath]

im on phase 2 aswell and at least my factories are mad small compared to what i've seen others do

[plucky flower]

Hasnt changed cooling paste since. (may or may not be tthe problem)

[hard ivy]

ah, yeah, that'd do it 😂

[plucky flower]

The factory must grow😂

[amber heath]

no but legit, how many of each steel item? what do u guys think?

i dont know what i use the steel stuff for so i dont know how many to make

[plucky flower]

I think 60/min

[hard ivy]

I'm doing 120/min

[amber heath]

its my first one and its the simple ones

[plucky flower]

Depends what your patience is

[amber heath]

i have decent patience, but how many are realistically needed?

[plucky flower]

And resource nodes

[amber heath]

short on nodes

[plucky flower]

Yeah aim short for like 30/40 per minute

[amber heath]

sounds pretty reasonable

[plucky flower]

Or find a different location for it and branch with hypertubes

[amber heath]

and when i get into the advanced steel?

[amber heath]

i just finished t3

not on t4 yet

[plucky flower]

Idk but the more advanced ones I recommend doing like 1/4 of it. So you prob need to grab a different resource node

[plucky flower]

So hurry up kid😂

[amber heath]

i started yday

[primal mist]

yeah that's what i did hahaha

[plucky flower]

The factory must grow. You could have been further

[dim harbor]

aiming short is a good plan if you're building blueprints that you can just plop down and scale up. my steel needs vary a lot through the game and i have 3 dimensional depots for steel beams AND pipes just so i never run out while running rails

[amber heath]

what are pipes used for?

[plucky flower]

Were talking tier 3 here

[amber heath]

true that

[lime ermine]

Transporting Legos

[plucky flower]

MAM tree

[lime ermine]

Liquids forgive me autocorrect

[amber heath]

mk2 pipes?

[plucky flower]

Mmh

[amber heath]

like what are the steel pipes used for? the item

[lime ermine]

Transporting more liquids

[amber heath]

so mk2 pipes?

[plucky flower]

Transporting liquids

I mean legos

[amber heath]

ima kms

[lime ermine]

Oh building more complex items, also trains, trucks, and other stuff

[amber heath]

there we go, thank you

[plucky flower]

After phase 4 you can do that

[lime ermine]

Phase 5

[amber heath]

ur right

[plucky flower]

The factory must grow😂

[amber heath]

how many u reckon i need?

[lime ermine]

Typed this before I saw he meant steel pipes

[plucky flower]

The probability you will stull be alive then is highly unlikely

[dim harbor]

tbh i wouldn't worry too much about planning out a steel factory in t3, i think i ran like 3 foundries per output at that tier

[plucky flower]

Physically after phase 5 and mentally when you begin😂

[amber heath]

i wanna automate all items tho

and steel is part of it

[lime ermine]

For phase two I like at least one constructor

You can always expand later

[plucky flower]

I get that but you will build way biggers factories later on

[dim harbor]

you're going to unlock alt recipes that change everything and make you want to build a new factory later

[amber heath]

annoying to expand tho

[amber heath]

yeah true

[plucky flower]

You will have to. Mk 4 miner and overclocking needs to do your factory times 4

[amber heath]

so i dont need many steel pipes early but i might need some beams for mk3 conveyors, correct?

[plucky flower]

Your current factory will not last for super long

[plucky flower]

Yes. And for space elevator

[dim harbor]

yeah i needed like 2x the beams compared to pipes at t3

[amber heath]

yes, versatile framework

[cursive phoenix]

im making a 250GW turbo fuel factory, i need SO much sulfur bro holy shit

[plucky flower]

Yep

[amber heath]

like 10/min?

[plucky flower]

Lmao😂

[cursive phoenix]

6000 sulfur a minute

and 1000 fuel generators....

[plucky flower]

hahahahah

[amber heath]

damn bro

[cursive phoenix]

help me god

[plucky flower]

The factory must grow