satisfactory

[white dawn]

Nah, never store byproduct. You need to process it somehow

[nocturne condor]

sorry fuel was just my example. things like heavy fuel is isnt it

[past robin]

ohhhhh, but heavy oil residue can be turned into petroleum coke and sunk

[shy mulch]

there are some rare edge case reasons to, never say never 😛

[past robin]

no need to store it as a liquid at all

[white dawn]

For Heavy Oil Residue, when you've first unlocked oil, the usual thing to do is convert to Petroleum Coke, yeah

[nocturne condor]

but wont it back up and stop production?

[white dawn]

Which you can either sink, or send to some coal generators to get some extra power

[past robin]

by process it he means get rid of it. not storing it. storing it will eventually back up and stop production

[white dawn]

If you convert to coke and use in coal generators, your early oil processing will end up net-power-positive, which is nice

As you unlock more recipes and stuff, they'll be other things you can do with it

Coke is actually a pretty handy substance with the right recipes, as is Heavy Oil Residue itself

[past robin]

I use coke to make my steel, it is much better than regualr coal for steel

[nocturne condor]

tbh my early stuff isnt even that complicated, its just 1 plastic, 1 rubber and 1 fuel (in terms of machines being used) so i dont think it would be taht power hungry

[white dawn]

Once you unlock fuel generators, you could also turn the HOR into fuel (instead of coke) and send that to fuel gens

[white dawn]

Sure! Regardless: don't try and send byproducts to buffers or whatever. When you first unlock oil, the path of least resistance with the HOR byproduct is coke -> sink

[past robin]

also, note that it is ussually most effective to convert the oil into a bunch of heavy oil residue THEN process it into fuel or some other parts

[nocturne condor]

I dont have the ability to just make heavy oil residue

[past robin]

yeah, it is an alternate, but it is a really really good one

[steady glade]

i see, my bad

[nocturne condor]

How would i get rid of the stuff? the sink doesnt accept fluids

[silk ocean]

Get rid of what

[nocturne condor]

byproduct like heavy oil so i dont back up

[silk ocean]

Use the Heavy Oil

[steady glade]

make it into fuel, and burn that

[nocturne condor]

I dont have anything to use it for atm do I?

[past robin]

the residue is turned into fuel typically, because the recipes that go oil->residue->fuel make way more fuel than other ways. the byproducts there can all be sunk as they are solids. to get rid of residue itself, put down soome more refinerys on the petroleum coke recipe

[nocturne condor]

I just unlocked oil

[past robin]

it takes residue and makes petroleum coke. use that coke to power coal generators or just sink it

[nocturne condor]

Oh i assumed that was an alt recipe

[past robin]

I believe petroleum coke is base

[white dawn]

I will refer you to everything I said a few messages ago. :). Convert to Petroleum Coke and then sink, is the path of least resistance

[steady glade]

coke is a normal recipe, fuel too, but it does have alts

[silk ocean]

Convert it into Petroleum Coke at the very minimum

Burn it for power

[nocturne condor]

I missed it, oops

[versed mesa]

This guys builds are fresh https://youtu.be/x4coe19uo1A?si=L8xYab152wIfl0ke

[white dawn]

Heh, all good. Chats be busy! 🍻

[nocturne condor]

im also just tired and mutlitasking as i play lol

My gacha games wont play themselves

[lucid flicker]

i got a bean stuck in my base, btw who wants to see my base

uh check in #screenshots if so

[timid jasper]

can someone help me with my pipes i dont have any idea how they work

[silk ocean]

What's the prob xD

[lucid flicker]

ok posted in #screenshots

check it lol 💀

and n38x, are you using pumps?

[timid jasper]

ye

wait i send in screenshots

[lucid flicker]

can you dm me

and then like call and screenshare dw you can turn off mike

mic*, bc screenshot has time limit and i cant see very good that way

[silk ocean]

You don't need pumps unless you are dealing with headlift

[unkempt blade]

packaging your liquids and moving them with factory carts is more power efficient than pumps anyway

[silk ocean]

Just move 1200/min with Factory Carts

[silver mountain]

make it so we can attach cables from a power pole onto creatures and shock them

[silk ocean]

That's just mean

Don't do that, it's called torture

[next sequoia]

Beat game first time! 290h ||I'm stuck on this world forever all alone 😭 ||

[silver mountain]

the higher ur MW output the more they get electrocuted

[next sequoia]

Logmarathic increase in damage

[silver mountain]

perfect

[next sequoia]

So 10mw is 1dmg
10²mw is 2 dmg
10³ 3 dmg
Ect

[silk ocean]

Put them on passive and don't attack them?

[silver mountain]

not as fun

gotta optamize dopamine

[silk ocean]

Better than what you are proposing

[cunning siren]

Awwww... no directly up or down zipline 😆

[silver mountain]

unfortunately

[cunning siren]

Is ladder faster than elevator? 😆

[silver mountain]

ooo what about the more power in your system the faster your zipline

[silver mountain]

theres an elevator?

[cunning siren]

I think so, have yet to use it

Yea here it is 10 coupons

[silver mountain]

cool

[cunning siren]

Takes silica 🤔 that is kind of odd

[silver mountain]

well

get to the nether so you can get some quartz

[nocturne condor]

is there anything i can do about speed of a hyper tube going uphill?

[silver mountain]

add more entrances beforehand to make it go faster

or mid way through

[wise junco]

hewwo, facktoree time

[cunning siren]

OR... skip the hypertube and make cannon 😆... cannon fixes everything

[silver mountain]

true

[silk ocean]

I have about 20 cannons in the world

Best form of travel

[nocturne condor]

gotta say while it helped im going so so far uphill apprently that ill need quite a bit more.. welp guess i better get to it

[white dawn]

Periodic boosters can help too, of course. :D

[silk ocean]

Just use cannons, saves time, fly and control flight with the jetpack

[silver mountain]

peak

[fickle oriole]

does the speed of a train change as its number of cars / amount of cargo change?

[white dawn]

I'm not exactly anti-cannon but I hardly ever use them myself. A little too immersion-breaking for me

[silver mountain]

slower acceleration i believe

[white dawn]

Was originally an unintended side-effect of the cannon coding, but CSS did promote it to officially unofficial (or unofficially official, whatever) during Update 8

[white dawn]

Yes, each car has a base weight, and adding more cargo to the car adds weight as well (which affects the acceleration speed, as others have now said. :)

Can counteract it by having more than one engine on the train, if need be

[silk ocean]

I have 2 cannons in main base, clears near terrain, and I can literally land anywhere in the world from either, down to literally the square meter

[white dawn]

If it gets too "heavy" for the number of engines, it could have troubles going uphill; it's not impossible for an overladen train to stall out on hills

[versed mesa]

Does anyone have suggestion on how i can slightly keep Alumina solution drained the only option i think is to build more fluid tanks and i dont want Aluminium casings to get used in anyway i need to produce more

[silver mountain]

i think it ended up being a good thing because theres still other viable transportation options and they are fun for people who do use them

[white dawn]

Oh sure, I certainly don't mind that folks can build them if they want. :D

I tend to prefer just taking a leisurely train journey or something, though. :P

And I've used a few in the past, too -- as I say, I'm not really against them

[silver mountain]

fair enough, satisfactorys a very chill game, sometimes i just run around the map doing nothing but sliding and stuff

[versed mesa]

Currently its going to 6 big tanks and bunch smalked tanks that are connected with the with tanks

[silver mountain]

why do you want less alumina solution?

balancing quartz?

[versed mesa]

Because when it gets full up it stops production

[white dawn]

What I do with aluminum is essentially max out a bauxite node making Aluminum Ingots. Send all the ingots to a sink. Then, as I need aluminum products elsewhere (sheets/casings/tanks/heatsinks), I'll send some of those ingots to that processing and export. Over time, the amount of ingots being sunk shrinks. Eventually it's time for another aluminum plant!

[versed mesa]

So i need the production to keep going

[white dawn]

Or in other words: Just use all your Alumina Solution, silly. :)

[silver mountain]

if the next refinery uses alumina solution then having a surplus souldnt matter I dont think, alternatively slightly over or underclock

[white dawn]

It's not hard to just use the exact amount of Alumina Solution you're producing. Remember that sinking solids is trivial whereas "sinking" liquids is not. :)

[rigid glen]

You have to follow the math and arrange no shortages or leftovers

[versed mesa]

Soo ill still get some solution right ?

[white dawn]

Indeed! A suitable challenge for Phase 4, IMO. :)

[unkempt blade]

or don't recycle and use all the output water to make sweet sweet wet concrete

[silver mountain]

ficsit does not waste

[versed mesa]

Yeah your right thanks

[white dawn]

Alumina Solution is just an intermediate resource which shows up in the middle of your Aluminum production lines. You should™ be processing exactly as much as you're producing, right inside that one production line

[rigid glen]

Finally creating a stable, closed aluminum chain felt great, took several iterations

[white dawn]

(I mean, you're free to Not Do That, of course. :) Your save! That's my recommendation, though)

[versed mesa]

Right ok thanks ill get on to it now its because am working on crafting the next part for another so yeah and I need bunch of casings

[nocturne condor]

Its finally time, i can research trains

[silver mountain]

actively building my aluminum plant rn, it is complicated with all the byproducts but very possible to get right first try

[silk ocean]

Don't punish animals, they have a life too

[versed mesa]

Idk what id do with out you guys help i really appreciate it thank you

[nocturne condor]

Yeah, a life becoming protein and DNA capsules, a few inhalers too

[silk ocean]

Not specifically about the game, in general

[wheat chasm]

Just got smart splitters, have been told they are very useful. How are most guys using them or integrating them? have lets say reinforced iron plates go into a storage container, when the storage container is full then have the overflow go to the next stage of production??

[nocturne condor]

when we work for ficsit the point still stands

[next sequoia]

On the mod manager how do I veiw my list of mods so I can remove some

[lyric yoke]

huge bong rip bro, do you think you could make a bong out of a nuclear hog?

[rigid glen]

Yes, or overflow into a Sink for coupon points. This also keeps the production line in motion when the storage fills up

[silk ocean]

You can build a megafac without harming creatures

[nocturne condor]

what are you? a leaf lover?!

[versed mesa]

@white dawn tbh I dont have much ingot to sink in storage

[silk ocean]

No, I am just aying that you don;t have to kill to create

[nocturne condor]

That cuts into producticity as the animals could return while you are working, you have to remove them from the situation to increase productity as ada would say more than likely something like that

[rigid glen]

https://discord.com/invite/xkVJ73E Go here and ask pls

[next sequoia]

Kk ty

[white dawn]

In terms of storage, I'd generally advise the opposite: IMO storage should be the last thing your resources flow to. So like if you're producing a total of 40/min RIP and making use of 30/min of it in your factory, the Smart Splitter could let the remaining 10/min overflow into storage. (Though even more than that, I'd generally recommend just having that 10/min to storage be a dedicated production, but that's another topic. :)

I suspect overflow-to-sink is likely to be the most common way folks use Smart Splitters. One strategy for getting AWESOME shop coupons is to sink literally everything you produce: basically everything you send to storage, you have a Smart Splitter in front of the storage, which sends overflow to sink

[silk ocean]

Try doing it in the RL, pretty sure you will wake up with nightmares

[white dawn]

As soon as your storage fills up for that item, you start sinking it. Eventually you're accumulating points for basically everything you produce

[rigid glen]

I did close to this on this run, I am sinking everything I can as each line hits max storage

[white dawn]

The other main use of Smart Splitters is dealing with "sushi belts" -- ie: having more than one kind of item on the same belt. Can use Smart Splitters to sort them out. Requires some practice/trial-and-error/knowledge to be able to process that "safely" but it can be fun/useful. :)

[nocturne condor]

Optimization must make sacrifices..

[cunning siren]

It's time to get sloppy chat!

Alumina style

[nocturne condor]

huh? I dont like the sound of what you said

[feral geyser]

I do

[wise junco]

#screenshots message

this was genuinely not on purpose

[cunning siren]

With a liquid loop should I clock the outputs "perfectly" and or use a valve set "perfectly" or both? 🤷 IDK

[wheat chasm]

Yea im just having trouble incorporating the smart splitter into my setup as I am currently on phase 3 of the space ship. My factory has everything to process all the way down to my versatile frameworks and then i have end assemblers for Smart plating, motors, automated wiring, encased beams. But nothing is ever really backlogged on stock per say, maybe simple things like screws.

[white dawn]

Different factory-building paradigms may or may not have a lot of room for a smart splitter to do anything useful

[wheat chasm]

Im obviously new but how do you recommend building factories? like would you be making a factory for motors and a separate one for smart plating since they both are taking rotors?

My current set up is just max clocked mk 2 miners on mk3 belts to get as much iron going as i can and then overclocking from there to try and get everything running as efficiently as it can but it is all combined for the most part into 1 big factory for every resource i can produce, like i said there really isnt a steady enough flow of anything except the early game stuff to create storages of anything.

[white dawn]

I tend to recommend (and mostly follow myself) a strategy called "Independency": https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[wise junco]

one big factory is really, really hard to maintain without a super solid plan

[white dawn]

Not the only way to play, of course, but I find it bypasses a lot of problems that players otherwise run into.

Not that running into problems can't be fun; in my very first playthrough I did basically the opposite of everything I tend to recommend nowadays, and I still had a blast. :D

[unkempt blade]

if I do a loop from output to input I send the output to a portion of the refineries that use exactly the output amount for ALL refineries and then I use water extractors for the refineries that aren't party of the water recycling group

[cunning siren]

That sounds like fancy black magic right there 😆

[versed mesa]

@white dawn ive decided to send aluminium scrap to the sink from my storage units on mk3 conveyor that should defo help to keep thing running continuously now

[unkempt blade]

you can feed all output to all input and top it off with extractors but I've had more weirdness that way

the separate pipe groups have had fewer issues for me

[real shale]

its spooky month, i think i'll dress up as 0% efficiency for halloween

[cunning siren]

But but but... I has to maths then 😭

[wise junco]

big fan of smaller pipe groups

[unkempt blade]

yeah the only way to avoid some recycling math is to use the water for something like wet concrete or pure metals instead 😆

[feral geyser]

Recycling math is not so bad.

[real shale]

Yeah, it's just math that's been used over and over again

[wheat chasm]

This is good for sure, Im going to implement this more as i currently am just rebuilding a ton. do you not find it takes a lot of power to be building redundant things

[feral geyser]

You do (amount in) - (amount out) = (net amount supplied)

[wise junco]

I think you'll find you end up using similar power either way

You're either making it here, or making it there

[cunning siren]

You are talking like you think I am good at the maths. How dare you assume my level of education! 😆

[wheat chasm]

You would just end up building extra smelters, and constructors for things like metal plates, iron rods and wire as an example. You dont find it adds up much though?

[unkempt blade]

practice will make you good though 😄

[wise junco]

right, but for the same output of the same end product, you'll end up using identical amounts of ore, ingots, etc

regardless of whether it's made in a mega or silo

[silk ocean]

Don't hurt the animals, put the world in passive mode

[wise junco]

I find independency makes it easier to make bigger quantities for export

(which makes it consume more, but not because of building separately)

[cunning siren]

Wet Concrete looking like a pretty good option again 🤔 😆

Why mah pipe rings orange but my fancy pipe colors are not 😭

[silk ocean]

If bad factory is your game. Bit like whatever is killing animals

[wise junco]

did you copy a pipe? that's when i usually have that. have to recolor. not sure if it's been reported

[feral geyser]

You don't even have to recolor, just hover it with a different color and it'll fix it

[simple mango]

So what's the secret of modular vertical blueprints? Is there a core design principle for them?

[feral geyser]

Take a horizontal one, roll-rotate it 90°, bam

[simple mango]

wow it's so simple!

[feral geyser]

Refineries laying on their sides lmao

[silk ocean]

or just don't use blueprints in Satisfac because they totally suck, play Factorio and it will change your mind

[simple mango]

"don't play the game at all" wow thanks

Anyway, I usually try to build upwards, but it just turns into vertical spaghetti

[silk ocean]

wow thanks.. worst response ever. Are you American?

[real shale]

Are you an Earthling?

[silk ocean]

Can confirm probably

[real shale]

Wow, that sucks.

[silk ocean]

It really does xD

[feral geyser]

"Worse response ever" after this came outta your mouth 😂😂

(...not mouth, fingers?)

[real shale]

blows up factory with MIND

[simple mango]

Mass delete function for Satisfactory when?

[silk ocean]

Blueprints totally suck in Satisfac. If you play Factorio, you will know

[simple mango]

wow thanks.. worst response ever. Are you American?

[silk ocean]

Sigh

[real shale]

Are you an Earthling?

[simple mango]

Negative, I am a meat popsicle.

[real shale]

you broke the loop.... congrats, you prevented a computational catastrophe and me from self destructing

[feral geyser]

You green??

[simple mango]

But fr is modular vertical stuff just something everyone figures out for themselves? No one writes anything down or has nuggets of wisdom for sharing?

[simple mango]

Supergreen.

[feral geyser]

Yeah, more or less

[simple mango]

wah

kind of want to start fresh, but don't want to have to re-gather hard drives/sloops/spheres =_=

[real shale]

heresy

Consume.

[simple mango]

Does the save editor have a thing that will just blanket-delete all player structures? Can it also somehow give back my sloops and spheres?

[wheat chasm]

Like how crazy are we talking when it comes to independency?

Like are you going as far as making metal plates and having a storage for it and then the rest to the sink, and then doing plates and then in a completely new factory setting it up so it creates its own iron rods and then its own screws

[limpid cairn]

let me guess, youd rather be a ryzen 7 9800x3d with 128gb ddr5 ram?

[simple mango]

Sounds like the "Black Box" ethos from Dyson Sphere Program where you import only raw materials and export only finished products.

So like for my Heavy Encased Frame factory it just imports Ore, Coal, and Stone and poops out Frames

I wonder if a "neighbourhood" model would work with vertical modular. Smaller outbuildings making components and feeding a larger building housing the Manufacturers. 🤔

[feral geyser]

That would work

[silent grail]

Tired of trying to jump out of water and by spamming the space bar the game thinks I'm spamming q and keeps opening the builder

[wise junco]

that's exactly it

[wise junco]

i do this in my more complex regional factories

[steady glade]

is it the bug where when you fall in water while you build, the menu opens up whenever you rise above the water?

[wise junco]

that bug makes me wish i was never born every single time

[steady glade]

if so, you'll wanna spam q right about when you jump out of the water

weird, they should have patched that out \in the 1st or 2nd bugfix of 1.1

[silent grail]

Yea basically

[cunning siren]

I wonder what a Stinger burger tastes like 🤔 I mean... the meat package looks pretty tasty

[steady glade]

lean and chewy at best, likely stringy

they dont have a lot of meat, let alone fat

and they have really powerful muscles designed for quick movement bursts and high jumps

[latent meadow]

i got a question ok you got the mk2 that max out at 600 right

[steady glade]

ye

[latent meadow]

so a full nuclear full jucied with 3 shartds uses 6000

600

sorry so how is that i pumping 300 and 300 into a pipe into this reactor it still running out of water

lol

[outer hatch]

What would the best for a meal? I'm thinking Spitter - Hog would probably be too gamey.

[steady glade]

the

[latent meadow]

ahh it was headlift

ok i feel dumb

[feral geyser]

It took me an embarrassingly long time to notice that the Alien Protien packets are just little containers of ground beef lmao

[frozen shoal]

WE NEED SOLAR POWER NOWZ

[wise junco]

easy mistake - don't beat yourself up

[steady glade]

the birds i think, but you could also raise hogs to be less gamey over time, cuz the spitters have little meat and have a whole ass systen dedicated to hucking fireballs

[cunning siren]

Yea! I saw it in somebodys screenshot. For some odd reason I recall them looking like large single serving sauces you get from a fast food place 🤔 did they ever change the image for them?

[outer hatch]

The meat comes pre-cooked! (... OK, fine.)

[white dawn]

I think other folks already answered, but in general you're making the same amount of buildings either way. Like over a whole playthrough I might make like x/min Reinforced Iron Plates; whether I'm making them in one factory or in twelve separate factories, it's still about the same buildings, same number of belts, etc. But the nice thing is that in each case I'm making the RIPs right where they're needed, so you save on logistics.

I agree that there's probably cases where you end up building a little more than you might have if you'd consolidated. But overall IMO it mostly evens out

[limpid cairn]

Ficsit doesn’t care about renewable energy

we need more POLLUTION

10 sets of building coal generators

[white dawn]

(And also if you do it that way, you get to potentially make the same thing in a variety of different ways, depending on local nodes -- alt recipes become a lot of fun to play with.)

[simple mango]

shartds

[white dawn]

Yeah, for me at least, I especially follow it for early-game stuff like plates+rods and such

[latent meadow]

i swear headlift is the bane of my exsistence

[limpid cairn]

Making fun of someone English spelling mistake isn’t fun btw

[white dawn]

And to be clear, for that stage in the game, I don't necessarily have a building that just makes Iron Plates; I tend to end up with a "Basic Iron" Factory which outputs like six things (plates, rods, mf, etc)

[simple mango]

it is when the mistake itself is funny

[white dawn]

But yeah, the more basic stuff is so easy to just make from scratch that those are things I'd never bother centralizing

[simple mango]

I've also had an entire meeting room full of IT people giggle when I talked about "sharding our data"

[limpid cairn]

Entire different story when you’re native speaker and it’s your first or second language

[white dawn]

I do often sort of bend it a bit when it comes to late-game stuff. Like on my 1.0 playthrough I started planning out some longer-term Phase 4 + Phase 5 goals, and I ended up with just one single Supercomputer factory which had exports to the various things that need Supercomputers

[steady glade]

whether its in year 2 of cs or 20y into my job, ill still chuckle at the 1st mention of it

[white dawn]

But I had, like, specific Supercomputer-producing machines which were earmarked specifically for the export that needed them, and I sort of only did that because I purposefully planned out the factories which would need 'em

I ended up with I think three different HMF-production sites on that save

[restive river]

my urges after seeing the rainbow

damn you Arc Raiders

[simple mango]

anyway big soz for just assuming it was a normal funny typing mistake literally anyone could make and accidentally hatecriming Samira by proxy

[cunning siren]

Who gots Ingots?

[snow holly]

I'm new to satisfactory, but if I host a multi-player server do I have to be in the server for other people to join? Or can people play on that server even if I'm not on it at the moment?

[simple mango]

You either need to run the dedicated server, which is more or less just a copy of the game that runs unattended but still requires all the CPU/RAM of the regular game, or yes you have to be running the game and in the save file.

[snow holly]

Dedicated server? Can I ask what that is?

[simple mango]

Just what it says on the box. It will be in your Steam library along with the main game.

[feral geyser]

For more info or help, ask in #dedicated-servers channel

[unkempt fern]

is there any tools to view a save via an online site to see where stuff is? similar to mc chunkbase

[cunning siren]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[limber plaza]

just noticed u can change the shape of pipes lol

[unkempt fern]

ty

[limber plaza]

#screenshots will i need a valve here to prevent backflow?

its for aluminum

[versed mesa]

The manufacturer is producing turbo motors now

[cunning siren]

Noice

[versed mesa]

I know then I need toget to work on phase 4 items lol

Over 290 hour playing the game now

🎉

[limber plaza]

im at 252 lol

[versed mesa]

Yummy how does it feel ?

[limber plaza]

addicted lol compared to any game out rn i played a lil over a year ago with a friend decided to try it out again

[versed mesa]

Yeah it is addictive lol

[frozen shoal]

I have 335 hours in so far

expedition 33 is still GOTY

[versed mesa]

So is NMS but am having a break from it and needed to try new gane niw am here

[limber plaza]

stuck on aluminum rn i wanna build it differently then i have times before building it in a different location rn as well but having a silica problem rn not enough

[versed mesa]

Whats expedition 33 ?

[frozen shoal]

google it.

[versed mesa]

@frozen shoal thats a new game right

[frozen shoal]

it's the best game to come out in 2025 it's a turn base rpg

yeah it's fantastic. I don' tknow anyone that doesn't like it.

[versed mesa]

Cool but this is for Satisfactory chat only tbh

[frozen shoal]

ok and?

don't like what I szy don't responde fucking chat police.

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

It is Satisfactory chat after all

[frozen shoal]

I can tell the snowflakes are online time to close out discord.

[limber plaza]

baited lol

[versed mesa]

Another server they warn you nit to talk about other games lol

Am not even sure if they allow talks about other games in here it seans like it no one has mentioned anything lol

None the less I still want to keep this for Satisfactory talk mainly

[sullen gull]

To be fair, I think they have just been trying to politely say that the conversation could be taken to #off-topic-general. Though, your immediate reaction to delving to "name calling" (regardless of whatever name) shows your colors anyhow.

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[sullen gull]

Minor discussions here and there seem to be fine. Especially in the "off hours". But otherwise, you're not "wrong"

[versed mesa]

Yeah i know am not

Lol

[sullen gull]

Anywhos, what're all you pioneers working on today?!

[limber plaza]

building factory and giant green stinger jumped scared tf outta me out of nowhere and disappeared after hitting me once

[sullen gull]

Lol, it's stuff like that when I decided to put it on retaliate 🤣

[versed mesa]

@sullen gull finally produced turbo motor and handed 50 in to finish the tier 8 in 0hase 4

Yeah celebrate it is lol

[limber plaza]

not even lyin bro #screenshots

hes stuck now cant move

im just staring at em

[sullen gull]

My current "endeavors" : #screenshots message

[limber plaza]

wtf is that

[versed mesa]

What you building ?

[sullen gull]

Giant spiral power fac

[versed mesa]

Damn good luck lol

[limber plaza]

i left em there to continue building and he jump scared me again wtf

[versed mesa]

My starting location factory is like a one big hacksaw lol

[sullen gull]

Still playing with numbers of machines... it's going to be more relegated on the design ... It's looking like 84 fuel gens per arm right now... 8 arms = 672 fuel gens @250, and not sure how many nuke plants yet.

[sullen gull]

Kill it ... kill it ded... in the head ...

[limber plaza]

i useto have mine like that now i have stuff spread out ima train it all to one location and to produce more complicated items

[limber plaza]

yeah i blew em a new one with explosive rebar

[versed mesa]

Damn lol

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[versed mesa]

Bloody heck lmfao

[limber plaza]

i made a new factory for power using my blueprint and another blueprint somebody gave me love how it came out

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-14634295

[versed mesa]

I need blueprint designing learning course lol

[sullen gull]

Niice.. Blueprints are 🤌

[limber plaza]

here it is #screenshots

[versed mesa]

Thats going tobe insane lol

[versed mesa]

Cool

[limber plaza]

yeah i love how it came out the fuel gen was the other persons blueprint i used

thats my blueprint with poly>fabric>sink #screenshots

[sullen gull]

Hmmm, if I fill the 'arms', I can do 94 per arm ... for a total of 752 ...

[versed mesa]

Am not going to lie am looking forward to my next big build lol

[limber plaza]

what i need is a damn hoverpack

[sullen gull]

You gotta get some supports under those foundations! They're gonna fall! 😏

[limpid cairn]

step 1. get frustrated of placing 500 refineries per hand

step 2. place blueprint designer

step 3. build max refineries possible in blue print designer!

[limber plaza]

ima fixit up later trying to finish aluminum rn but im having a slica crisis

i need 600 silica to continue

[sullen gull]

Naaah, just one with auto connect is enough lol. I just placed 94 fuel gens in about 10 minutes ... already all connected 😛

[limber plaza]

i need blueprint designer mk3

[sullen gull]

You can go pretty far with the mk2, but, yeah, mk3 is nice 😛

[limber plaza]

can u fit 3 blenders in a mk3?

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[sullen gull]

I've been doing Mk1 for all "small utility" type stuff, mk2 for machines and med "mutli machine" builds, and mk3 for Going all out (Though, now kinda "cheating" and using the Mega's 🤣 )

[versed mesa]

Lol

[limber plaza]

do u guys know if ill need a valve to prevent backflow on my aluminum?

[sullen gull]

Blenders are one of the few machines that fit perfectly on foundation sizes. They are a perfect 2x2 foundation size.

[versed mesa]

Idk ive not used it once yet lol

Next automate is super computer

[limpid cairn]

best building oat after refinieries

[versed mesa]

But nit today lol

[feral geyser]

I have a BP with 4

[sullen gull]

If you are dealing with 500 baux, or 600 baux, I have a couple bp's where you can see how I do it with recycling of water. Just have to supply 150 or 180 water respectively. Using electro and sloppy. Though they are using power shards as well .

[feral geyser]

Several, actually, for various recipes

[unique peak]

Does anyone here use linux?

[zinc wren]

yes

[feral geyser]

Packagers footprint is exactly 1 foundation

[limber plaza]

i wanted to use sloppy but silica is my problem

[unique peak]

how is the proton compatibility with satisfactory?

[sullen gull]

I did a setup for two pure quarts nodes, with refineries and assembler single machine bp's in about 15 minutes. But then spent 3 hours trying to decide how I want to run up the ore 🤣

[zinc wren]

how do i get rid of the "authenticating" thing that happens every time i launch and then just times out

[sullen gull]

I did say one of the "few" 😏

[zinc wren]

it takes like 30 seconds

[versed mesa]

Actually am going to go set up production for copper powder

[limber plaza]

ima need that for rocket fuel plz lol

[feral geyser]

Oh yeah, I was just adding that in

[feral geyser]

Nitro recipe in blenders?

[zinc wren]

i've never had an issue

[limber plaza]

yessirr

[feral geyser]

I gotchu

[sullen gull]

Haha, suckeeer

[feral geyser]

But give me a little bit, I'm not at my PC

[limber plaza]

no problem take ur time

[feral geyser]

Should I be charging for my blueprints? Lmao 😂

[unique peak]

eh i think it will go fine for me i have the latest nvidia driver installed

so there shouldnt be gpu issues

[feral geyser]

Lol, you heard him, @limber plaza

[limber plaza]

setting up aluminum here #screenshots

[feral geyser]

My hands are tied 🤷‍♂️

[limber plaza]

ahhhh u gon do me like that

[sullen gull]

All you need are 200 pet coke, 150 water, and 500 baux for one, and 280 (I think) pet coke, 600 baux, anbd 180 water for the 600 ingots.

[feral geyser]

Giving things away for free? In this economy? Lol

I'm teasing lmao

[limber plaza]

lol nah i feel it

[unique peak]

I hate windows 11 so much i installed linux lol

[sullen gull]

@limber plaza DM's

[limber plaza]

new pc coming in soon too yessirr idk if i should sell my current pc as a whole or do a giveaway lol or part it ig

[limber plaza]

omw

[unkempt fern]

Is there a website for blueprints?

[limpid cairn]

🤔

[limber plaza]

yes there is idk if u can share it here or not thoe

i only have the tube launcher from there i like to build my own otherwise

[sullen gull]

SCIM has blueprints. And there is satifactory blueprints dot com as well

[unique peak]

my main issues with windows 11 is the whole ai and advertisements built in to the os and performance
yes i know debloating stuff exists for windows 11

[cunning siren]

Ahhhhhhh, feels good to finish the aluminum build. Some would say it's a specific emotion, I'm not sure I can place it 🤔 can anybody in chat help me out with this?

[sullen gull]

When you finish and nothing is halting, it's "Beautious" 😏

[cunning siren]

🥁 🎵 Benny Benassi - Satisfaction 🎹 🎼

I would link the song but... 🤷

[vestal hill]

satisfactory?

[limpid cairn]

theres only bing iirc

and as you said, is easily removable

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch aluminum

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=aluminum

[unique peak]

eh yes but imo if you need external software to make the os not spy on you i don't think i will like it

[limpid cairn]

there will always be people spying on you but not admitting it 🤔

[unique peak]

also i like the idea of having complete control of my computer

[limpid cairn]

i like that too tbh so ill prob switch to arch soon when i get another ssd

[unique peak]

i mean yes but at least they arn't taking screen shots of my computer every 10s if i remember

there is some spying that i can't do much about but i think microsoft took it a bit to far

[unique peak]

i installed something thats basically arch

but has a gui installer

[limpid cairn]

🤮

[unique peak]

i have installed arch in vms but i wanted to play it on the safe side

because unfortunately im not spending hours installing it

i will prob switch to arch in the future but im some what new

any ways this is going off topic

[feral geyser]

@limber plaza DMs sent with BPs

[cunning siren]

Whelp, time to run a few pipes of niro down the shore line 😆

[silk ocean]

A message for me, red notification, but can't find it using search. #Discordlife

[unique peak]

but uh satisfactory works well on linux

[limpid cairn]

yes because vulkan

[silk ocean]

Server does

[unique peak]

true

[feral geyser]

search "mentions: <your name>"

[cunning siren]

OH noz, mah base is eatin' all teh powhaz! Time for more geos 😆

[silk ocean]

Vulkan lolz

[limpid cairn]

oh wait

the mention was from me lol

@silk ocean would you rather be a human or a ryzen7 9800x3d 128gb ddr5

[silk ocean]

I'd possibly rather be a 9800X3D

[feral geyser]

(drops EMP)

[silk ocean]

Not with Double Data Rate version 5. Maybe with HBM

[feral geyser]

so i just noticed something

every machine can hold a number of Somersloops equal to the number of input slots, and requires that amount to get the full 2x boost

except for one

[limpid cairn]

Casual player btw

[feral geyser]

(packagers don't count)

who knows which one?

[limpid cairn]

refinery

[feral geyser]

nope, that takes two and has two inputs

[frail sleet]

encoder

[feral geyser]

nope

[silk ocean]

Refy takes 4 doesn't it.. or is it 2

[feral geyser]

warmer though

[limpid cairn]

converter ?

[feral geyser]

nope

[frail sleet]

accel?

[feral geyser]

it's the accelerator

it has 3 inputs, but takes 4 sloops

[limber plaza]

"not me looking for which one it is but never used or seen an accelerator before"

[feral geyser]

yeah, late-tier tech

[silk ocean]

2 Sloops in a Refy

[feral geyser]

yes, and it has two inputs

[silk ocean]

Yep can confirm that

[limpid cairn]

Guys do you think krispys power grid would survive a 250% OC slooped particle accelerator?

[feral geyser]

don't put my mans on blast like that

[limpid cairn]

it’s just a little bit of 20GW energy :3

[feral geyser]

(it will once he builds gens with the blueprint i shared 😏 )

[limber plaza]

hell nah it wouldnt im not even passed 10kmw yet 😭

[sullen gull]

OK you math wiz's (Looking at you @feral geyser ) .. How would/could I divvy up 168 npp's for a run all the way to ficsonuim ...

[jolly kindle]

quick question, I have drones flying through an area I want to build in. If I keep building will they clip through it or will they route around?

[limpid cairn]

What are npp‘s

nuclear power plant ?

[feral geyser]

i haven't done nuclear math yet

[limpid cairn]

They will flight straight into it and crash

[feral geyser]

i don't use it, i just make U Rods and sink em

[jolly kindle]

neat

[feral geyser]

they will pathfind

[sullen gull]

Uh, you can sink Uranium rods?

[limpid cairn]

Why wouldn’t you be able to sink them?

[feral geyser]

yes

[jolly kindle]

damit, my game freezes when I click on programs on my other monitor.

[limpid cairn]

Thats normal for less cpu usage no?

[cunning siren]

Build long lifts and power poles on top to hoverpack higher... why didn't I think of this before?

[sullen gull]

Heh, I just never though you could lol, And never cared enough to check. Figure if I was making rods, I'm burnin' them

[feral geyser]

i want nothing to do with nuclear

i started a factory to make up the chain, and i decided screw it, stop at Singularity Cells, and power a portal instead

[limpid cairn]

Love that attitude, FOSSIL FUEL FOREVER !!!

[sullen gull]

Starting a new "project" #screenshots message 😏

[feral geyser]

the spiral is sick

[sullen gull]

And, I guess, the better question is how can I divvy up 21 of them for the process to fics ...

Since it'll be 8 arms of 21..

[jolly kindle]

when it does I cant do anything on the monitor its running on, and when I bring up task manager if its on the same monitor its under the frozen game and I cant do anything but restart the computer and hope my autosave was recent.

[silk ocean]

This almost makes sense

Almost

[sullen gull]

Grrr, dang .. a combo of 4+12+6 requires 22 npps 😒 .....

(Uranium, plutonium, ficsonium)

[feral geyser]

longer arms 😭

or pack em tighter

[sullen gull]

Those in the vid were just placed a bit "haphazard", so yeah, maybe....

[silk ocean]

So why I rather be a human or a CPU

[limpid cairn]

#satisfactory message

[spare ruin]

Random question: How do you prevent Space Giraffe-Tick-Penguin-Whale Thing from getting into your factory? I spent like 10 minutes getting that thing out and then he magically reappeared in the middle of my factory on a level that is aboveground a few minutes later. I spent another 10 minutes getting him out and he reappeared in the middle of the factory again. I just got him out, but I really don't want to deal with this again.

^ enclosed factory

[limpid cairn]

you murder it

[silk ocean]

Still not computing... maybe I am a CPU

[spare ruin]

ugh, I really don't want to do that

[feral geyser]

ADA: "I liked you better before you did that."

(she does say that)

[spare ruin]

I would also like myself better before I did that.

[feral geyser]

i did it as a joke, then she said that and i had a crisis

[limpid cairn]

yall are just boring

i killed probably 50 beans in total by now

[feral geyser]

how tall is your largest opening? are they just wandering in, or are they spawning inside?

[limpid cairn]

@silk oceando you randomly have experience with HTML (forget it problem solved )

[spare ruin]

magically spawning inside

[feral geyser]

hmmmm

you could just open up the wall a bit and hit them with a stick until they leave

[limpid cairn]

simply build beams etc in your factory so they dont have enough spawn room

basically like in terraria or minecraft mob farms 😛

[spare ruin]

yeah, but it is annoying.

[feral geyser]

i know

[silk ocean]

HTML.. errr wat xD

[limpid cairn]

dw dw i fixed the issue

i placed a > wrong

[silk ocean]

ECMA maybe but HTML just defines the layout

You placed a pointy bracket wrong.. the mud gets clearer

[limpid cairn]

placed a bracket wrong by accident
compiler :
❌ 125235 ERROR ⚠️ 0 WARNINGS 🇮 0 MESSAGES

[silk ocean]

What are you compiling

[limpid cairn]

Nothing rn but im working on a c# project rn

[silk ocean]

Well you must be compiling/linking something if an unterminated bracket is producing 125235 errors

[limpid cairn]

it was planned for me to play factorio for another 10h but my mate went to bed and i dont wanna play alone so im just doing something else

[silk ocean]

Which I find hard to believe

[limpid cairn]

if you didnt it knew yet im known for managing to break libraries somehow

i managed to break a library from B&R which caused like 120k errors in one of my internships

[silk ocean]

That is not a normal output from a compiler/linker

Smells like a load of BS to me

[limpid cairn]

wdym

[silk ocean]

How are you actually compiling this? Link the command, link the git repo

[limpid cairn]

i think we are talking past each other lol

or i lost track of our convo

[sullen gull]

Muwhah, it worked.

[silk ocean]

Convenient

[limpid cairn]

do you mean you want the code of the compiler thingy?

[limpid cairn]

this

[silk ocean]

I don't want that fluff, what is the project you're trying to compile

[latent meadow]

i get end game is end game but man does it have to be grindy just to be grindy not really a purpose

[limpid cairn]

basically a program for school

its not finished yet

[silk ocean]

That generates a fake 125k "ERROR" from an unterminated pointy bracket? Sure

[limpid cairn]

the 125k error message was a joke bruh 😭

[feral geyser]

It's not so bad if you've been expanding your factories as intended. If you're hand feeding stuff, it's annoying

[limpid cairn]

only phase 4 is grindy imo

phase 5 is super chill and not that much grindy

[silk ocean]

So the only outstanding question is why am I being related to a 9000 series AMD Ryzen CPU

[limpid cairn]

because some guy asked you if youre an earthling and i asked if youd rather be a cpu since you own a server

#satisfactory message & #satisfactory message

[ionic forge]

producing 30 heavy plates per minute

[silk ocean]

And I confirmed I probably am an earthling?

[ionic forge]

very nice, thats enough for like 20 frames per minute

[silk ocean]

20 frames per minute xD

[feral geyser]

Hardly

[silk ocean]

You need like 100 frames per second

20 frames per minute, that's a frickin slideshow

It's a Powerpoint Presentation xD

[feral geyser]

Actually, 30 RIPs/min can get you 45 MFs/min

If you also have 150 steel pipes/min

[silk ocean]

We're not fealing with Minutes here.. We're dealing with Seconds xD

[limpid cairn]

if only there was an alt recipe for that...

[ionic forge]

im trying to use the teel recipes to try to get more screws on the belts for higher throughput

im probably going to rebuild everything when i eventually get trains

[limpid cairn]

why would you use screws in the first place?

[feral geyser]

Cuz screws are not bad

[limber plaza]

maxed out my dd finally

[feral geyser]

I'm tired of this screw slander

[silk ocean]

I think what is happening here is that you are talking about Factory and I am thinking about graphics cards xD

[ionic forge]

i dont have alternate recipes

[limpid cairn]

okay that makes sense

[limber plaza]

omg its uploading soo fast

[feral geyser]

Hell yeah, 240/min is good

And for concrete, you gotta put 5 uploaders so you get 1200/min upload

[ionic forge]

#screenshots this is what makes the bolted heavy plates

[feral geyser]

Niiice

[limber plaza]

2 boxes of protein making capsules lol straight into sink

[limpid cairn]

let us know how much points you made

[limber plaza]

will do

[feral geyser]

I think i have something like 10 ISCs full waiting to dump

[limber plaza]

calculated it to be 9600 capsules

when done beacuse they are also slooped

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch alien+data

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=alien+data

[cursive crane]

9,600,000

Points

[limber plaza]

oh shit thought he meant capsules lol

[silk ocean]

Concluded there is a bug in my global rail network but never when I am watching, only when sleeping

[feral geyser]

Did this revelation come to you in a dream?

[silk ocean]

Me?

It came in the form of I wake up, take a shower, go to the PC, trains are backed up

No logical reason, manually drive the train thru the signal, re-engage auto mode, everything is happy again

Then spend 2 hours staring at the intersection, comtemplating life choices

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

You are so welcome xD

Like scan for Pure nodes?

I think the planner just assumes you can source x/min

SCIM will help you find where to get it

[limpid cairn]

you can set the resources in the input tab to how much you have nearby

but by default all the resources are set to maximum available in the world with 250% clock speed and highest tier miners

also all the alt recipes are disabled so if you want to use a specific recipe for a production line youd have to enable it in the recipe tab

[silk ocean]

Where from North America are you xD

[nocturne ember]

Does anyone know if lizard doggos can follow through portals? I moved my main setup to the desert and didn't want to bother waiting for my doggos to walk all the way from the forest to where my main setup is. If not, are there any fast ways outside of the obvious mods?

[silk ocean]

State will do xD

Doesn't need to be more specific

[hard ivy]

Is it perhaps a block signal at the top of a downward slope?

[silk ocean]

I'll double check, I don't think so

[nocturne ember]

I've been having a similar problem. Does this so happen to be on a downward slope?

[silk ocean]

Downward slope seems to be all the rage right now, but there are no downward slopes nearby. A lil'bit near but not super near

[nocturne ember]

weird. My problem was that I had a block signal that went into a downward slope, and when a train stopped at it it wouldn't fully stop (it would slide down slowly) and would occupy the block and get stuck because the "next block" is occupied. I fixed it by just rebuilding the problematic area to just not be as steep.

the weirdest part is that it still did that after deleting the block signal

[silk ocean]

In Screenshots, there is a downslope but not super close

Signals are fine

The system works.. until I sleep

Then the trolling happens

[cunning siren]

This game in a "nutshell" <Build something and delete it 10x times till you get it how you want> 😆

[silk ocean]

It's not Satisfac if you don't rebuild at least 3 times

10 is a bit extreme but I like it

[cunning glade]

Man I don't like the input ratio for instant scrap

[hard ivy]

Where do the trains stop? Because the intersection in the screenshot is a prime location for a train to deadlock when trying to go down

[silk ocean]

Well there is this in screenshots

I don't know how to link images xD

[versed mesa]

👋

[silk ocean]

Intersection at the bottom of the slope

[limpid cairn]

Shift and then press the chain

[silk ocean]

#screenshots message

[limpid cairn]

[silk ocean]

Well blimey

[silk ocean]

Ta duck

[rigid glen]

Also in the 3 dots menu and also when you right click the pic

[silk ocean]

Shift just transformed my world

[limpid cairn]

Idk if we should be worried or happy for you 🤔

[silk ocean]

Probably worried is the best choice xD

[limpid cairn]

Good point

[versed mesa]

[hard ivy]

Yeah, idk. The train's half full, the slope isn't steep and there's no path signal at the bottom. It should just go.

Are you sure you don't have any signals bleeding over to the neighbouring rail due to them being too close?

[versed mesa]

Am going to have my morning sleep bye for now

[silk ocean]

There is a path signal, I shall post

#screenshots message

[versed mesa]

Wonder what we will see in the next game update

[hard ivy]

https://imgur.com/a/yyBKx13

That's the setup that breaks trains: steep slope, full (heavy) train, path signal at the bottom, block signal between the train and the path signal

[silk ocean]

I should point out that this isn't the intersection causing the problems, it's the one further downroute in the 1st screenie

Yea I agree the slope is a problem that needs a redesign

[outer scarab]

anyone have a design for Miners that make them look better?

[silk ocean]

Put it in a box and pretend it doesn't exist?

[outer scarab]

no....

[silk ocean]

Put it in the basement of a megafac building and hide it where nobody will ever see it and it will never see the light of day?

[outer scarab]

stop... stop it

[silk ocean]

Stop the Miner? Oh you don't want to do that

[cunning siren]

I jam lifts on mah Miners 🤷 do they look better? No, are they easyer to configure, OH yea!

[outer scarab]

lifts?

oh the vertical belts

meh i mean i'm already kind of doing that

[silk ocean]

Elevators?

[cunning siren]

I just made a big ol' steel build AND... no idea why 😆

[limpid cairn]

-#

[cunning siren]

YES... I suppose they pay me in coupons 🤔

WHELP, at least I'm also working to get off this rock right? Once the ship is built they'll take me home for vacation right?

[silk ocean]

It's almost as bad as not using SI units. It's an Elevator. Don't use non-standard terminology like "Lift"

[outer scarab]

Yes, that's what the 100 nukes are for.... to make sure you come with

[silk ocean]

It's almost as bad as pioneers that use x/m instead of x/Min

[limpid cairn]

does anyone know if having scim sftools and the plumber manual open, if its using more ram if the browser is open?

[silk ocean]

What xD

[limpid cairn]

idk man i didnt understand the sentence myself

hope its better now

[hard ivy]

Slopes are fine. Even steep ones. The issue is created by signalling.

If a train sees a red signal in front of it, it does a braking distance calculation and starts slowing down approximately early.

Slopes are harder to stop on than flat rails, and the train accounts for that.

If the red signal in question is right at the bottom or in the middle, the train will have to stop in the middle, on rails angled downwards.

If the slope is steep and the train is heavy, it might think that stopping on the slope itself is impossible (it'd slide down even with the brakes engaged, past the signal, which it can't do). So it stops before the slope, not before the red signal.

If the signal is red because there's a train past it, that's fine. It'll eventually turn green and the train stopped on the slope will just go.

But if the signal at the bottom is a path, it's red by default and only turns green after a train reserves a path through it. Which the train won't do unless the path is the next signal it'll pass

So with a path at the bottom or middle of the slope, the train might try to stop for it at the top if it's red. But if you have a block signal between the path and where the train wants to stop for it, the train will just stop before the block, never pass it, and the path will remain forever red. Because it won't turn green until the train goes down past the block, which it won't do because the signal at the bottom is still red

[silk ocean]

You mean having the tab open

[limpid cairn]

yes

[outer scarab]

man I never turned on the music in desert. That's just spookie

[cunning siren]

RAM has been somewhat cheap for a looong time now, if you need more, buy more? Or download it I hear that is also a thing

[limpid cairn]

i cant buy more atm since my motherboard doesnt support DDR 5 and i refuse to buy ddr4

but will be looking to do that in the future

i think zatie is writing another paragraph

[silk ocean]

Thank you. I skip the pre-block for this reason, so that trains don't slow before the path signal. I agree slopes are harder for trains to slow down, I have spent many hours watching and working on that issue

I add double engines to heavy trains, like the oil run that is 5 cars and 2 engines, to help it stop. Path signals are always red until the train enters the pre-block. The intersection in question is not the problem intersection. It's my 1st screenie, the path exit intersection, that's the one that blocked while I was sleeping, but other than proximity, I can't see anything wrong with it

[cursive totem]

Is there a mod that can autoconnect Power lines in blueprints?

[limpid cairn]

I think you’d be better asking that in the mod dc

[silk ocean]

Mods are mods, this is not the place xD

[cursive totem]

Fair enough, sry

[silk ocean]

Don't be sorry, be happy xD

[outer scarab]

does the autoconnect not work in blueprints?

[cursive totem]

Only for belts, pipes and rails afaik

[outer scarab]

ah yah if you are doing large blueprints like that you probably want the bigger power lines maybe?

[limpid cairn]

without looking i can already say there will be one most likely xD

[cursive crane]

I question how autoconnect lines would work. How would it differentiate between connecting to machines and connecting to poles?

[cursive totem]

That's not the issue, it's that the lines are not connecting

[cursive crane]

Would have to be a limited range or something which kinda defeats the point

[feral geyser]

I have not seen one that auto connects power lines

[cursive totem]

Well I am hoping someone smarter than me figured that out already 💀

[feral geyser]

It's a problem of over-determination.

[cursive crane]

Theres probably a reason they didnt add it to the existing autoconnect feature. Sounds like the logic for that would be a nightmare

And would rarely work as intended

[cursive totem]

From the top of my head I'd say it should never connect machines as those are expected to be connected inside the blueprint already so it would only need to find poles

But yeah I get the problem

[feral geyser]

Honestly, if your whole blueprint has a single socket/pole you can hook it up to, connecting that last one by hand isn't so bad.

[cursive crane]

But then what if you have a blueprint with say.. a connector for every machine? Should it only connect poles? What about wall/ceiling connectors?
What about mk3 connectors? Should it connect all those to the ones around it?

Sounds like you could just plan your blueprint to have a single connector to the outside and just... connect that up lol

[lunar ravine]

Its done. Its finally Done

[feral geyser]

Pics

[lunar ravine]

Finally finished my Distro Center.

[cursive totem]

Yeah sure, but that's what QoL mods are about. With that argument you could dismiss autoconnect belts as well

[feral geyser]

Different argument entirely

[cursive crane]

No. You are missing the point there. Electrical connections have up to 14 connection points.
Belts and pipes have 1.

[lunar ravine]

Posted.

[cursive totem]

Huh? It's still just one object no?

And doesn't even have directionality

[silk ocean]

The game is fine as it is, if you "need" mods and claim they are QoL, maybe you need to look at your gameplay in general

[cursive totem]

Lol ok

[lunar ravine]

I built two floors of this damn thing. And my factory has been at a grinding halt while i built it

[cursive crane]

Thats exactly the issue.

Say I have a blueprint with [conservatively] mk1 connectors, one for every machine, and theres 4 machines. Assuming I preconnect in the blueprint, thats 5 connections that are open to go... where? To the nearest connector? To the second closest?

[silk ocean]

It's "lol" not "Lol" unless you are starting a conversation, in which case "LoL" might acceptable but definitely not just "Lol ok", pretty slack behaviour xD

[cursive totem]

Blame my phone haha

[silk ocean]

Good ol'phones xD

[feral geyser]

Wtf are you on about??

[limpid cairn]

autoconnect belts are useful tho since some blueprints use like 25 belts inputs

[outer scarab]

It's actaully LOL or L.O.L. because it's an accronym

[surreal meteor]

For supercomputer production, is OC Supercomputers or Super-state computer better?

[silk ocean]

Correct / acceptable use of acronyms?

[hard ivy]

OC is expensive af

[reef basin]

whichever sounds better to you

[limpid cairn]

superstate

[feral geyser]

In what world is "LoL" acceptable for anything besides League of Legends?

[lunar ravine]

I play with mods. But i dont think the game needs them to be good. I enjoy them because they let me build much cleaner factories. I like my efficient orange cubes that house far more output than would normally be possible by removing belt bloat. I also like the idea of having hydro electric dams powering part of my factory for personal worldbuilding purposes.

But never would i say modded or unmodded satisfactory is better. Even QoL mods are just small tweaks for convenience, not excellence. Dont need them to do well, they just make doing well more accessible.

[outer scarab]

What about Solid State Comuptuers

[feral geyser]

Also capitalization matters nothing, so shove it

[surreal meteor]

OC seems a lot easier, and I can use the radio control units and stuff to produce other items

[cursive crane]

When it comes to alt recipes "better" depends on what you are asking. More efficient on power? On a certain resource? You need to evaluate your needs and the available recipes and decide for yourself. Theres always tradeoffs in alt recipes, you just have to decide whats worth it in your circumstance.

[silk ocean]

Probably as Talo said, it should be "LOL" but as it's a word and an acronym, the boundaries are a bit grey

[cursive crane]

[Pure recipe superiority though]

[cursive totem]

Valid take. This "the game is perfect if you need mods it's your fault" take is so weird. Anything can be improved, always. That's why patches exist. And mods are just user patches

[outer scarab]

Acronyms need to have at least 3 letters, or it's an abriviation

[feral geyser]

Acronyms are abbreviations

But not all abbreviations are acronyms

[lunar ravine]

@outer scarab The us military industrial complex wants to have a word. Its acronym soup in there.

[reef basin]

basically, calculate which recipe needs what, add your other recipes that you want to use, you can also use some planner or something to make the job easier

compare the results and choose which one of those you like more, or do a combination, or whatever. There's no single way to play the game, and recipes aren't "good" and "bad", they are all alternatives which you can (but don't need to) use

[silk ocean]

Not sure i f you noticed but "lol" has 3 letters

[surreal meteor]

For OC supercomputer, it seems like its mostly requires more nitrogen and aluminum.

[outer scarab]

25 years of military, trust me I know

this was in referance to his OC

[lunar ravine]

My sympathies. I tapped out after 8

[hard ivy]

If you already have both ingredients automated and you're willing to use them on SCs, sure. But if you're making everything from scratch, it's very much not easy

[cursive totem]

This so much

[limpid cairn]

mind if i ask how old you are if you already were 25 years in the military?

[outer scarab]

just turned 45

been retired for 3 years

[feral geyser]

NASA is an acronym
FBI is an initialism
Both of them are abbreviations.

[outer scarab]

Now I just play games

NEWS is actually North East West South

just FYI

[feral geyser]

"LOL" is either/or depending on the speaker

[silk ocean]

The thing about "lol" is that it#s a word and an acronym. It's an interjection/noun in the OED, albeit not officially listed (yet), it's a tricky case. It's used in general chat as a noun, but also in chat as an acronym

[feral geyser]

Initialism

[outer scarab]

Huh,... that's odd I have 3 auto saves then 2 more auto saves with different naming. Did they make a new type of autosave?

[lunar ravine]

"Lol" is most certainly not a noun. It's a verb if nothing else.

[cursive crane]

If you alt f4 or the game crashes or a similar situation theres a diff kind of save iirc

Can start a different string of saves

[outer scarab]

ah yah I do use alt f4 a lot b/c I can't be bothered to menu

[silk ocean]

Well it can be a verb too, another complexity of "lol"

[lunar ravine]

Alright, how is Lol used as a noun?

[outer scarab]

if its a name

[lunar ravine]

"That's a lol?" "Look at that lol over there"

[cursive crane]

Best practice to not to that, can result in save corruptions. We are spoiled with modern gaming but still happens

[feral geyser]

LoL = League of Legends

[cursive crane]

Acronym.

[outer scarab]

eh my power goes out enough that if it corrupts all 3 auto saves and my main save, I'll just get a new PC

[silk ocean]

Like a colloquial interjection?

[lunar ravine]

Right... I forgot that cess pit existed

Thanks for reminding me.

[feral geyser]

Already addressed this. Depends if you speak the letters or the word. Could be either/or

[cunning siren]

I get sucked into treasure hunting 😆 "OOH! A piece of candy!"

[outer scarab]

LoL is just DotA with extra steps

[reef basin]

the other way around

[cursive crane]

Nobody says "lole" and if anyone does they are insane

[lunar ravine]

@outer scarab Fewer now a days, actually.

[outer scarab]

dude DotA was the first game, I still have it

[lunar ravine]

Dota 2 is... Nuanced.

[feral geyser]

This is where you are wrong

[lunar ravine]

I know you meant Dota All Stars, etc. from WC3.

[outer scarab]

if you dont play DotA in WarCraft 3, then it's just sparkling cider

[lunar ravine]

Hence my stipulation of "now a days"

[silk ocean]

"That joke was such a good lol"
That is lol as a noun

[lunar ravine]

Also, i am not surprised in the least to see discourse and "arguements" (non confrontational or aggressive, but rather the literal definition of it) over the least important of things such as the use or dis-use of the word "Lol." Just like D&D players, engineers and factory gamers will quibble over anything if they feel they are correct.

[outer scarab]

you can say, that's a good laugh, but laugh isnt a noun

[silk ocean]

Using an acronym as a word

[feral geyser]

It literally is

You just used it as one

[outer scarab]

I stand corrected

I never did gud en egrish

I have had a pork shoulder in my oven for 5 hours and its starting to smell good

only 5 more hours

[feral geyser]

This is a simple case of definitions
An abbreviation is a shortening of a word or phrase. ("St." for street)
An acronym is an abbreviation that uses the initials of each word of a phrase spoken as a word (NASA, FUBAR)
An initialism is an abbreviation that uses the initials of each word of a phrase spoken separately (FBI, CIA, and so on)

[lunar ravine]

Break the sentence down: That (adj.) Joke (noun) was (secondary verb) such (prep) a (article) good (adverb) lol (primary verb)

Secondary verbs are used to enhance or add complexity to sentences by modifying the primary verb using words such as "be" (in all its forms)

[limpid cairn]

no way yall are still arguing about lol

[feral geyser]

This is incorrect diagramming

[outer scarab]

well what do you want them to do, play the game?

[lunar ravine]

I am playing the game. Im waiting on overflow to even out

[sterile blade]

Also, i am not surprised in the least to see discourse and "arguements" (non confrontational or aggressive, but rather the literal definition of it) over the least important of things such as semantics and definitions. Just like D&D players, engineers and factory gamers will quibble over anything if they feel they are correct.

[silk ocean]

Don't throw a load of constructs at me in the guise that you think you know what you're talking about xD

[limpid cairn]

off topic question but did you ever play factorio and if you did how good are sushi belts there?

[outer scarab]

dont suppose anyone likes watching Francis John

lol factorio sushi belts actually cause the game to lag

[hard ivy]

And how much easier 2.0 made them

[lunar ravine]

Thank you for the correction.

[limpid cairn]

how much easier did they become after 2.0? last time i played was 1.04 or something

[lunar ravine]

how?

[outer scarab]

i mean every arm is a filter so you can sushi if you do it right

[sterile blade]

My Factorio time is catching up with my SF time
Ironically, I don't do sushi there, so I can't quite answer the question without just spouting the little second-hand info I heard from others 🤷‍♂️

[outer scarab]

there just isnt a need for it because you dont use belts during end game

[hard ivy]

You can now read the contents of the entire belt with a single wire connection

[feral geyser]

"That was a good lol"
Subject-verb-article-adj-noun

[silk ocean]

We made the language, you get to type and speak it XD God I sound like a British asshole

[feral geyser]

"A lol" = "a laugh (out loud)" clearly noun usage

[outer scarab]

I mean English is really like 5 languages in a trench coat

[limpid cairn]

erm actually the americans developed / made english 🤓 👆

[silk ocean]

Oh surrreee they did xD

[outer scarab]

Yah, you think English came from England? Pfft have you heard them speak?

[feral geyser]

Read it as, "that was a good run", is "run" a verb in that case?

[outer scarab]

yes

its literally the definition

[feral geyser]

No, it is a verbal noun

[silk ocean]

Wat xD Of course English came from.. Oh I don't know... how about.. ENGLAND

[outer scarab]

yes that's the joke

[feral geyser]

You go for a run, that's a noun

[outer scarab]

yah words

noun is a noun

[sterile blade]

I think it's one of the easiest languages to learn.
But I also heard someone support the opposite opinion, like, just a few days ago 😆

[limpid cairn]

new theory, english came from the scotts

[feral geyser]

You have a laugh, that's a noun

[outer scarab]

English is actually catagorized as one of the hardest, along with chinese

[feral geyser]

You have a lol, still a noun

[lunar ravine]

Incorrect. "was" is being used as a secondary verb to modify "lol" which is the primary verb. Lol is, in this instance, an arconym for "Laugh out loud." Therefore, the sentence is expanded to "That was such a good laugh out loud.
"was Laugh" is the full verb broken apart in the sentence. The sentence implies that earlier you laughed about something. So your example sentence is simply stating "I laughed earlier." The formatting of the sentence is made complex with the use of artciles, adjectives, adverbs, and auxiliary (was) verbs

[silk ocean]

Oh dear lawd, they can't invent a pie let alone a language xD

[outer scarab]

it's a lvl 5 language, for example spanish is a level 3

[feral geyser]

Wrong

No one breaks it down like that

[lunar ravine]

You havent dealt with publishers.

[sterile blade]

Bot, ban @silk ocean for forcing others to explain a joke, the cardinal sin of the PunBle (aka Pun-Bible)

[feral geyser]

Publishers are snobs

[lunar ravine]

No arguement there.

[outer scarab]

did you know that English has built in inflections into the 2nd to last syllable?

[feral geyser]

Then quit defending their backwards views

[silk ocean]

Beep boop beep me bot beep boop

[outer scarab]

and if you see a ` then thats the exception to the rule

[feral geyser]

And recognize it for what you know it to be

[lunar ravine]

Their "backwards views" are still grammatically correct. This is a conversation about grammatical correctness. I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL

[outer scarab]

anyways

[sterile blade]

I was talking to the server's bot

[feral geyser]

I don't want to hear you ever using any verbal nouns then

[silk ocean]

FICSIT recommend not dying on hills

[sterile blade]

!wikisearch this guy

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=this+guy

[outer scarab]

i heard someone actually use "wierd hill to die on" in congress against the speaker of the house

[lunar ravine]

based?

[feral geyser]

Based is a verb

[silk ocean]

Bot is a happy bot

[lunar ravine]

Dont worry, you wont hear me say anything. Im typing <3

[feral geyser]

Can't verb without nouning

[outer scarab]

do you read people's texts in different voices, or are they all just your voice?

[lunar ravine]

My voice until i hear their actual voice. Then i match them

[sterile blade]

"I don't want to hear you ever tipying using any verbal nouns then"

[silk ocean]

"lol"

[lunar ravine]

"lmao"

"Rofl" for those inclined.

[silk ocean]

You don't say ell oh ell do you

[outer scarab]

i only use onomatopoeia

[silk ocean]

You say lol

[outer scarab]

My sister said LOL in real life and i punched her in the ribs

[feral geyser]

Or "roflmaowsmp" for the old folks

[sterile blade]

The voices in my head are affected by people's PFP.
Eg: when foxy chats, I just hear panda sounds in my head; don't ask me how I can translate them to human speech, that's a trade secret

[outer scarab]

ill have you know, it's ROFLECOPTER

[lunar ravine]

my brother in FICSIT, what the hell is that?

[silk ocean]

When someone says something funny, you don't respond by literally saying the letters
"That's really funny"
"Ell"
"Oh"
"Ell"

[lunar ravine]

I actually need to change my name in here to match my current IGN

[outer scarab]

ROFL:LOL:ROFL

[lunar ravine]

And done

[silk ocean]

You do say that that. you say Rofle

[sterile blade]

Isn't this the only really correct one?
That's just how French people laugh, after all, right?

[outer scarab]

I say Rofle only over the toilet when I'm puking

[silk ocean]

You don't say let me Roll on the Floor.. Laughing

[sterile blade]

"Le mao"!

[feral geyser]

How French people refer to the first leader of communist China

[outer scarab]

are rage comics alive again?

[sterile blade]

We're not talking about Charlie, right...?

[outer scarab]

no that kills people

[silk ocean]

There's a reason why French as a language is dead xD

[outer scarab]

I gave a French hitch hiker a lift once and he smelled so bad, I knew he was French

[sterile blade]

Because it choked on its own accents during breakfast

[outer scarab]

Sad thing was, he was a vegan, and he was on his way to live on a farm. He said he was going to grow veggies and shit. I dropped him off, it was a cow farm slash slaughter house

[silk ocean]

It's not a good language bottom line

[outer scarab]

hope he is doing well

we were crossing the border and he couldnt stop throwing himself under the bus

"Oh yes I have all this drugs and fruit" like dude stfu no one asked

[cunning siren]

This is how French cats meow

[silk ocean]

English is just so versatile. There is* basically zero conjugation. On the downside it has a huge vocabulary. But you can basically write trash and most English speakers will understand. It's a daunting entry but actually easy to get into. (imo)

[outer scarab]

you sure about that?

[sterile blade]

Coming from a language with conjugations, I don't really get the "daunting" part at all 😅

[silk ocean]

Well no, if you learned it in the first place, English seems pretty easy

I went, you went, they went, we went, everybody went

No conjugation in English required xD

[feral geyser]

I will have gone (future perfect tense)

[sterile blade]

Go-went-gone-forgone

[sterile blade]

Io vado, tu vai, egli va, noi andiamo, voi andate, essi vanno.
Easy! Now for the other 69 conjugations...

[feral geyser]

English doesn't have as many conjugations, we just have tons of auxiliary verbs to do the work.

[silk ocean]

And yet nobody speaks Italian xD

[sterile blade]

Don't argue, Vencam, don't eat the rage-bait...

[rare mantle]

Tf u talking bout

[feral geyser]

Have you seen that video of the Alaskan Husky with an Italian accent?? 😂

[rare mantle]

Привет всем. Как дела

[sterile blade]

😆
I have now

[rare mantle]

Why is vro writing down his thoughts

[rare mantle]

🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀

[sterile blade]

"vro" was apparently part of a conversation with more context than just one sentence

[rare mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-stupid-brainlet-wojak-meme-gif-17170021

[silk ocean]

Just accept that we made a pretty good language. It's versatile, big vocab but a relatively low barrier to entry, zero conjugation. Spanish is a strong contender

[feral geyser]

All languages are equally bad compared to telepathy

[rare mantle]

Заткнись ебаный

[sterile blade]

... Spanish has conjugations............

[silk ocean]

Spanish does yep

[sterile blade]

Double-ended neuro-USB plugs for the win

[silk ocean]

It's also quite easy as a language

[outer scarab]

spanish has male/female desk lamps

[sterile blade]

As it should

[feral geyser]

Any language with grammatical gender is awful

[ancient dirge]

Здаров

[feral geyser]

I said it, fight me

[outer scarab]

Spanish has 3000 commonly used words, English has 8000

[feral geyser]

Brought a basher to a rifle fight

[outer scarab]

I feel like I'm talking in Orc when speaking spanish

[silk ocean]

Just stick to English. It's the global language. Go anywhere in the world

[slender quest]

Ah, languages...

[sterile blade]

Any gendered language without "neutral" gender is very lacking

[mortal ginkgo]

The only language I understand is DESTRUCTION

CHAOS

[outer scarab]

Exterminate

[mortal ginkgo]

THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS, ALWAYS

[feral geyser]

Okay, Dalek

[sterile blade]

Just speak in math

[silk ocean]

It is. Go anywhere in the world and you can survive with English

[mortal ginkgo]

My country hardly knows English brother, good luck.

[outer scarab]

010101001011010101100101011010101010101010101000101012

[sterile blade]

The language of the future gods

[silk ocean]

Well good luck going anywhere in the world only speaking French xD

[outer scarab]

Same,... and i'm in the US

[slender quest]

Gestures and drawing with stick on the ground/snow is more universal.

[silk ocean]

Gonna have a bad time

[sterile blade]

Like... Half of Africa might understand you fairly well 😅

[feral geyser]

-/../-

[outer scarab]

Arabic has no vowels because it's a short hand written language. so all the vowels are implied

[feral geyser]

That's true of most Semitic languages, Hebrew included

[silk ocean]

Great - some poverty stricken parts of Africa might understand you like French parts of Morocco. Bravo. You're not getting anywhere in this world with that tosh

[sterile blade]

||#off-topic-general mention in 3... 2... 1...||

[outer scarab]

I mean, Somali is a bastard French, so you might go there with no problem

[feral geyser]

This is giving some sort of -ist vibes

[silk ocean]

No need to sob, just be happy that we made a better language

[feral geyser]

This is amplifying those -ist vibes

[outer scarab]

Korean is proven to be the best written language because it's logical

[silk ocean]

No way lol

[sterile blade]

Like... Englishist ||Joke disclaimer||

[feral geyser]

Hangul is pretty cool as far as syllabaries go

It is very logical

[silk ocean]

Painting hieroglyphs? are you having a laugh? English owns all of this poop

[feral geyser]

Serious question, where are you from?

[silk ocean]

England of course

[sterile blade]

The US, the motherland of English

[feral geyser]

So do you have any exposure to any other languages, or even speak any other languages?

[hard ivy]

*the motherland of bad English

[sterile blade]

All English is equally bad

[silk ocean]

Spanish I guess, fairly fluent in that, or at least was, don't use it much these days

[feral geyser]

Let's be real then.

The boasting of English being best is just thin nationalism.

It's honestly pretty cringe

[silk ocean]

And yet here you are, writing English

[sterile blade]

Cringe is in the eye of the beholder

[cursive crane]

Im convinced its ragebaiting at this point

[hard ivy]

I'd say that English with egregious grammatical and spelling mistakes is at least slightly worse than correct English

[feral geyser]

Puedo hablar en español pero este grupo no permite

[sterile blade]

!ban @feral geyser breaking #rules on language

[feral geyser]

Brother

[cunning siren]

I vote that pipes like rails can keep hover pack goin', <As I run a long nitro pipe>

[feral geyser]

I legit hate that most "official" communities are English only, cuz then shit like this happens and spreads

[silk ocean]

English is the definitive best western language, there is no contest. Zero conjugation, zero accents or weird letters, zero tomfuckery. It's a big vocab but very easy to get into. Why do you think it's used all over the net