satisfactory

[atomic notch]

If you can get all the early ones then its easier to get newer ones as they unlock

[cunning glade]

Eventually u get all the alts u can during ur phase

[cunning siren]

OOof, so it looks like its easy to "loose" doggos when they clip through the map?

Maybe there is a better way to store them

[prime rampart]

my brain doesnt think like that

[plain marten]

alright so i am planning to create walkways around my factories but i dont know what would be the best way to add supports to them? whats the best block to use for supports? i tried using painted beam and it looked good until i saw that it didnt touch the catwalk....

[versed mesa]

I still can't figure out how to make circle even with a mod Rip

[real shale]

👀

[limpid cairn]

its not hard

i can do a vid soon if you want

[versed mesa]

Its feels like it its confusing my head wonder what am I missing like not doing right

[versed mesa]

Yes please i want to make round factory but I also want to make it round on a lake going around the Geo Gen and it will all be glass and I can still see it

[limpid cairn]

-# i dont know how to do it either btw ill just follow the instructions from wasistdaz out of my head

[versed mesa]

Right I see lol

[shy mulch]

What size circle are you trying to make. How many foundations diameter. I'll try make an example later

[nocturne orbit]

how do I turn

nuts oil and bolts may break my bones mind
but beer SAM will never hurt me
into a meme?

[versed mesa]

Probably like 3 then I can place batteries around

[nocturne orbit]

huh?
dumping explosives on a population of smell city?

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch either 3 or 4

[cunning siren]

When y'all get that first depot uploader going what are the FIRST items you dump in there?

[limpid cairn]

iron plates and concrete

[cunning siren]

Right now I'm dumping all the "rare" lootz that may be needed for drop pod unlocks 🤷 doing a phase 1 turtle strat

[shy mulch]

Doing one that small isn't really going to be possible, the larger it is the smoother the edge will be, that's just how geometry works

No wonder you were getting bad edges

[versed mesa]

Going upwards the build will be much bigger

@shy mulch so am wanting smaller circle going around geo Gen and then on top go much bigger outwards

[outer hatch]

Thanks for showing me that message style
-# I didn't know you could do that in Discord. (-# as a line prefix, for those who like me didn't know)

[versed mesa]

The smaller one I am wanting all in glass foundation then the bigger one I want like 4 glass in the middle so you can see Geo gen from standing above in the bigger circle

Its going to be over the lake

[shy mulch]

What's the easiest way to record a video in satisfactory? I'll do a quick one where I make a circle from scratch so you can see the process

[versed mesa]

Idk

[cunning siren]

Windows has tools built in but they are kind of meh

[shy mulch]

Yeh windows built in is a bit basic but I'll try, it might be enough, don't need anything fancy

[versed mesa]

No

[cunning siren]

WIN + ALT + R

[shy mulch]

Ooh nvidia has a built in thingy I'm gonna try that

[cunning siren]

Oh right Nvidia will use GPU hardware encoding, that will probably work better

[outer hatch]

OBS is also always a sure value. (While it's more known for streaming, it can also be used that way. After all, video recording is just streaming to your hard drive.)

[cunning siren]

Yea hard to beat OBS

[versed mesa]

It seams catwalks are the biggest help to making a circle

[winter ruin]

Would anyone be able to help me with train signals?

[boreal musk]

catwalk can do curve, but its 10° increments which has rough edges

smooth edges need 5° at least

[versed mesa]

Or right i see

[boreal musk]

i have nvidia app which let me record thing just by pressing alt + f9

very convenient

[boreal musk]

you can do 5° easily in vanilla, just aim to the edge of foundation while holding the hologram, and then hold ctrl to allow 5° rotation

you can bp them so its easier to curve

[versed mesa]

Yeah i think this is best needed todo for another time when I need a circle again

I am now into the deeper stuff now that need producing so alot me building is needed again so I need to steadily think on my movements on getting all set up and atleast for doing phase 4

Now sure how Nitrogen works with collecting ive got to work it out later already got a machine waiting on the node it needs power so that coming soon

Its amazon what others can do and specially with pipes and its all clean looking

[shy mulch]

why does everything need to be so complicated lol
nvidia first wouldn't record because chrome was blocking it, had to find a setting and restart the whole game to fix that, then finally managed to get it to record, and the recording is too big to upload, so now I'm using vlc to compress it
should have just streamed it for you lol

[boreal musk]

did you lower the quality from the recording first?

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[shy mulch]

I just left everything on default, I didn't expect it to give me a 2GB file for a 3 minute video

[boreal musk]

yeah thats the problem lol

[versed mesa]

Woah lol

[boreal musk]

i lowered the bitrate and it works wonders

[shy mulch]

Defaults should be something reasonable. That isn't reasonable

The whole point of default settings is they should be suitable for an average user. Advanced users expect to need to tweak things to suit, normal users don't

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch am off to have a nap will be back playing again later on

[shy mulch]

I'm off to throw myself out a window

[versed mesa]

Please dont or ill follow and i only live on the ground floor lmfao

@shy mulch before jumping make sure there a deep huge pool or ocean to then also refresh your self so you get a 2 4 1 lmfao

[cunning siren]

This game is funny... "OH you want to place that THERE! Absolutely not... OH you held the H key? 🤷 That's OK then" 😆

I need and H key IRL

[leaden turret]

XKCD 505

[limpid cairn]

load it up to workupload or something no?

[shy mulch]

At this rate I might just tweak the nvidia settings and do the whole thing again. Only took 3 mins. I refuse to accept that 2GB is a suitable size for a 3 minute video

Vlc said it was compressing it and it gave me a file that was perfect, except it was only the first couple of seconds of the video... 🤷

[wintry carbon]

is there a way to break down rocks?

[shy mulch]

Explosives

[wintry carbon]

does it work on bigger ones?

[limpid cairn]

idk what you did but all my clips are like 50mb max (720p 60fps recorded)

[wintry carbon]

and when do you unlock them?

[shy mulch]

The ones that are visibly breakable, have cracks, you can tell quite easily

[plain marten]

yo hol up why cant i place conveyor poles below lifts anymore?????????? i dont want my lifts to float unrealistically

[boreal musk]

i remember i recorded a 10min video and it took 50gb

[limpid cairn]

guys what are you doing with your recordings?

[shy mulch]

Was just whatever the default settings were, I didn't change anything, going to look now

[shy mulch]

Nothing, it's a single recording just to show someone how to do something

[limpid cairn]

i meant like what you did with it to become that big lol

[boreal musk]

i change the settings to 720p and lowered the bitrates by ALOT, now it only took around 10-30mb usually

[cunning siren]

40xx+ Nvidia cards support hardware AV1 video encoding and so does Discord so... no reason not to use that

[hard ivy]

I just pass my recording through handbrake and it's a fraction of the size

[shy mulch]

Turns out the settings defaulted to match my ingame settings, which were somewhere between 4k and 8k. Changing it now to 1080p should be plenty for this purpose

[cunning siren]

You can setup the Nvidia tool to record straight to AV1, that will fix a lot of the quality / size issues

[limpid cairn]

turn it down to 720p

theres no reason to have clips on 1080p

[nocturne condor]

When building your first automated power, how many coal plants do you generally place? or just try and max out one or two of your closest coal veins? (or something similar)

[limpid cairn]

2nd option for me

even tho i keep like 1 coal node for steel if theres no coal nearby

[cursive phoenix]

Oil power is sooo good

[hard ivy]

nvidia clips should still be passed through some kind of compression regardless. they're way too big even after accounting for the resolution

[cunning siren]

WOH two more doggos just walked into my base wtf

[boreal musk]

600MW to start modular frame and steel factories, and then expanding them to 2400-6000MW (basically enough to automate everything up to phase 3 for me) and then oil power once i unlock blender

[viscid bobcat]

first automated power I go to the crater lakes and you should have mk 1 miners so I generally place 24 coal power plants

that should generate 1600 MW

then you will get mk 2 miners and you can expand to 48 coal power plants

that should generate 3200MW

and then thats enough to move on to oil power

[shy mulch]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553257340108013568/1421505247599267890
@versed mesa

[nocturne condor]

I dont know the name of any places. im just at a place in the desert with 4 coal veins and plenty of water to use

[viscid bobcat]

are the 4 coal veins pure

[nocturne condor]

I just had a giant stinger spawn on top of me?! in the middle of nowhere?!

[viscid bobcat]

i mean i guess it doesnt really matter

[nocturne condor]

normal

[viscid bobcat]

if u want to be max efficiency the crater lakes arent too far away

wait

4 normal is the same as 3 pure

no nvm

3 pure will be 360 coal a min and 4 normal will be 240

[nocturne condor]

I dont even know where crater lake is

[shy mulch]

probably right, went with 1080p and it was still 200MB, better than the 2GB of last time though haha. As long as it's under the 500MB limit to upload to discord then idc much 😛

I'll use 720 next time

[viscid bobcat]

ill post it in math and meta

[hollow quarry]

how does one even calculate how well a train transports materials?

[shy mulch]

here's how I do it
if destination runs fine, done
if I run out of materials at destination, make more trains

[hollow quarry]

...

side questions, where is my save files again

[modern jungle]

is there a specific reason why mk3 belts are 270 items/m? I find it a bit strange

[shy mulch]

why not

would you prefer 300? or 327?

[modern jungle]

No, I'm just curious

[hollow quarry]

found them

[viscid bobcat]

everything in this game is strange

why are foundries misalignmed with constructors

[white dawn]

Multiples of 45 come up a lot with steel, so it often turns out to be a pretty convenient rate

[viscid bobcat]

gotta make the most of what you can make sense of

[alpine anchor]

anyone know how to just wipe all mods you installed? i havent played in forever and every time i launch the game it fails becuase it cant find a "SML" plugin

[modern jungle]

oh, and 270 is 45*6

I see

[cunning glade]

Bro I love ADHD why sleep when I can just think about the factory

Sleep isn't important

[cunning siren]

ADHD loves this game

[cunning glade]

Just spent 2 hours "sleeping"

[cunning siren]

Ooooh a piece of candy...Ooooh a piece of candy...Ooooh a piece of candy...

[cunning glade]

I layed in bed eyes closed heart racing thinking about factory plans

Love ADHD

[shy mulch]

#screenshots message
@wheat parcel if that's sustained and not just from a storage container, then very impressive 🤌

[wheat parcel]

it is

[cunning glade]

Now I work for 10 hours

[wheat parcel]

but its modded tho

[shy mulch]

I was just looking up the max theoretical amount and you're doing more, so was confused 🤭

[wheat parcel]

wait whats the max

[hard ivy]

the theoretical max is more than double that though?

[shy mulch]

186M according to the wiki

[hard ivy]

which wiki?

cause
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/AWESOME_Sink/Theoretical_maximum_of_points

[shy mulch]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/AWESOME_Sink

[wheat parcel]

i think the max is just the 32bit number

[frail sleet]

@prime rampart one or both stations are probably backwards

[hard ivy]

I don't see any mention of 186M on that page

[white dawn]

The display is limited to maxint, yeah, but afaik the actual sink events are all still processed properly even if the rate is above that

'cause as with the rest of the game, "per minute" is a bit of a lie. Everything's quantized. :)

[shy mulch]

That's the highest it will display, but you can still gain more than that. But to get anywhere near that you need to store stuff up and release it to the sink in 1 go. For sustainable permanent production the max is nowhere near that

[hard ivy]

I guess it hasn't been updated since U8 or whatever. because the max is well over 400k now, even over 500k if you underclock everything

[wheat parcel]

ama break it

[shy mulch]

Yeah that's same pretty wild extremes to go to hit those numbers haha

I'm happy with my sustained 75M/min, no mods or cheating

I did send everything to storage instead of sink for a while and let it build up, just cos it was fun to release it and see it cap out haha

[prime rampart]

how am i supposed to know if its backwards or not

[hard ivy]

the station hologram has an arrow when you're placing it...

[prime rampart]

i want it go from my quartz to storage system so the arrow should be pointing that way but in my storage system it should face the other way around which is not where quartz is coming from right?

[fleet geyser]

Anybody wanna be friends?

[hard ivy]

it should face whichever direction the train is driving in when arriving at the station

[prime rampart]

oh

load means stuff getting into train right?

[weak oak]

trains

i like trains

[shrewd palm]

amen

[weak oak]

-# im gonna hate setting these up

[shrewd palm]

its fun it just takes a while

[prime rampart]

does it matter where i place my freight platform?

[shrewd palm]

so long as its connected to and behind the train station, no

[prime rampart]

BEHIND GODDDDDDD

could i screenshare this paiN?

[shy mulch]

I already have 1 friend, and that is 1 too many

[prime rampart]

someone help ME PLS

[hard ivy]

#1038092680493801533

[shy mulch]

There's 8264829 guides on how to set up trains for beginners. Watch a YouTube video

[fleet geyser]

hm unlucky

[prime rampart]

wait just a question do i need railway signaling for 2stops?

[shy mulch]

No

[prime rampart]

1stop*

[shy mulch]

If there's only 1 station then where is the train even going? You need to have at least 2 for it to make sense

[midnight ocean]

does anyone have any good tutorials for setting up trains?

[shy mulch]

There's a lot on YouTube

[midnight ocean]

yeah i was just wondering if any came recommended

[steady glade]

you probably want block signals at the head of the station and tail of the freight platform

[shy mulch]

I don't knowny specific videos but gaming with doc is usually good for tutorials

[hard ivy]

you only need signals if you have multiple trains

[midnight ocean]

thanks

[shrewd palm]

^^

[shy mulch]

If multiple trains, yes. But sounds like he's only doing one train atm, so signals won't do anything

[nocturne condor]

I just learned you can dissemble crash sites

[prime rampart]

one train that took decades to setup

[hard ivy]

well, the good news is that that's a skill issue lol

[shrewd palm]

once you get them figured out they're pretty simple afterwards

this game could probably use a tutorial for trains tho

[cunning siren]

Deny trains! They are the Devil! Sky belts forever! 😆

[hard ivy]

I figured them out without any external help. it's not that bad

[shy mulch]

Everyone takes ages to do the first one. That's actually a good thing. The more time you spent on it the more you'll understand it, so it'll be easier in future. People who blindly copy a tutorial without thinking about it or actually learning, end up really struggling later

[midnight ocean]

is it worth having a freight platform for each product or should i just split them at the destination?

[shy mulch]

Platform per item is almost always better

[hard ivy]

I have separate stations for each item type

[shrewd palm]

although a sushi train might be fun

[midnight ocean]

different stations?

[shrewd palm]

but that is something i wouldnt bother with if it was anything beyond basic resource production for building use

[prime rampart]

yea but im malding

i changed everything all the way around

[midnight ocean]

im going to be using it to transport items from an iron factory to a central processing factory

[shy mulch]

In my main hub I have 5 stations, being fed 26 different products on 17 trains. It's a masterpiece of signalling and smart splitters 😂

[steady glade]

its probably better to have one station per item for high throughput, you can get away with a mixed item train if you need smaller quantities

[prime rampart]

could sm1 check uh screenshots

[midnight ocean]

how come multiple stations is faster than multiple platforms?

[harsh valley]

Should i build my smart plating factory with 6 iron miners connected?

Or should i use those 5 nodes near eachother for something else

[shy mulch]

Unload more trains at the same time, they probably don't all come from the same place

[steady glade]

each station will have multiple platforms behind it, but having a dozen platforms behind a single station means a dozen freight cars behind one or 2 locomotives, a pain to handle all the weay through

[midnight ocean]

oh its just for taking 6 products

[feral geyser]

Good morning, guys, gals, and NB pals 🫡

[harsh valley]

6

[midnight ocean]

so my original plan was to either do a platform per product or mix them in 2/3 platforms

[hard ivy]

because unless all wagons carry the same item in the same amount, you can't use the more efficient stop settings properly

[prime rampart]

#screenshots PLSSSSSSSSSS

[midnight ocean]

also is it worth geting railway signalling before i set up my trains

[steady glade]

depending on how your track network is laid out, id say its better to have one train for each product, maybe you can dedicate a single freight car to a product you dont need a lot of if thats faster to set up for you but i'd recommend one input and one output station for each

[hard ivy]

brother your locomotive is backwards lmao

[steady glade]

right click on your message, copy message link and paste here to make it easy to find your screenshot

[steady glade]

the front of the station is the rounded part on the roof

[prime rampart]

guys make easxy words

[feral geyser]

Hey, did you figure out building those refineries last night?

[harsh valley]

???

[prime rampart]

thats today for me havent closed the game since

[feral geyser]

If you want

[prime rampart]

so i change the freight platform aswell?

[feral geyser]

I guess it was technically today for me too

[prime rampart]

nyazsul help me wiTh trains pls

[hard ivy]

the locomotive is wrong.

unless you want the train to approach from where you are, then everything except the locomotive is wrong

[prime rampart]

let me explain once again where i ssed is the palce where i want ther train TO GET QUARTZ then come back to base

[hard ivy]

https://docs.ficsit.app/satisfactory-modding/latest/CommunityResources/TrainSignalGuide.html

[harsh valley]

I'm asking wether u should save those nodes for another factory or use it for smart plates

[feral geyser]

You don't typically need that much smart plating

Using one or two nodes for is fine, 6 seems overkill

[hard ivy]

I don't think you should ever use any nodes for project parts except pasta unless you really want to

[prime rampart]

0understand

[prime rampart]

wait so if i want the train to come to this trains tation then the locomotive si wrong right?

[harsh valley]

Okie

[hard ivy]

entirely depends on the direction you want your train to drive

[harsh valley]

That's what i wanted to know

[prime rampart]

check ss

[harsh valley]

It might have been an essential ingredient for all next recipes

[hard ivy]

that doesn't answer my question

just read the tutorial man

[prime rampart]

pls check

[hard ivy]

I mean the locomotive doesn't match the station. so it's either the locomotive that's wrong or everything except the locomotive.

it depends which way the train is driving when approaching the station

[harsh valley]

Do the hog's life regen?

[honest oxide]

Guys I need a suggestion. Steel rod or Caterium Computer? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1421522251437576324/image.png?ex=68d95743&is=68d805c3&hm=ff26fdcfd11001c3258ff010759429ca621d63ec67e57b0651fda59e83f52ce0&

[harsh valley]

There's a big one and it's trying to kill me

[shrewd palm]

if they regen it kicks in long after it takes me to kill them

[prime rampart]

OHHH

[shrewd palm]

the cliff and nuclear hogs just have a ton of health

[harsh valley]

Yea and a ton of damage too

Ny small tool is doing nothing

[shy mulch]

That's what she said

[prime rampart]

so if locomotive coming here where arrow point?

[shrewd palm]

the arrow just means what direction the station is pointing, it doesnt have to point in any direction in particular so long as you can connect the station to some tracks

[midnight ocean]

is smart plating worth automating?

[shrewd palm]

you want to have the locomotive coming IN the same way the arrow is pointing

[prime rampart]

TYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[shy mulch]

You'll need about 4k of it in total to finish the game, so it's at least worth having a machine doing it with a couple storages you can feed

[prime rampart]

does freight and station matter? back or front?

[midnight ocean]

so its not used in any production just the phases?

[shy mulch]

There's a wiki you can see all this on

[shrewd palm]

yes; the station is what controls the train and lets the autopilot work, and the freight platforms are how you load/unload freight cars to move items around

[prime rampart]

so should freight be infront of the train station where locomotive coming or behind train station?

[placid stirrup]

Loco in front and that's what needs to dock at the station

[shrewd palm]

behind

[prime rampart]

BRO U R THE GOAT OF TEXTING

but where locomotive starts freight is front?

[small notch]

Hello everyone

[placid stirrup]

You can technically do it either way, but it makes the most sense to have loco in front of freights. Just line them up at your train station with the proper building

[placid stirrup]

What did England do to you

[hard ivy]

last I checked, trains do not work at all unless you have a loco at front. unless that changed since then

[placid stirrup]

Yes but you can have a loco on both ends

[slate lava]

any idea on how to get rid of overflow water without having to flush it/ using a packer

[frail sleet]

consume it in a recipe, every recipe chain that generates water consumes an equal or greater amount.

That means that you can split the processing into two groups:

Group A which runs on fresh water only.

Group B which runs on the waste of chunks A+B only.

And have no waste left over

[hard ivy]

use it for something useful?

[shrewd palm]

what i assume you have going on is something like this, #math-and-meta message

the locomotive is entering the station the wrong way because it doesnt have an option to go in the right way, so to fix that you either copy the station setup in picture 2 and make a train with a locomotive on both the front and back facing in opposite directions (example for stations and train: #math-and-meta message)

or, if you dont want to do that, you can build a track that goes around the stations so that the train can come in the right way like in picture 3 (#math-and-meta message)

and it is important to note that this kind of system will only work with 1 train because of the omnidirectional track, if you want to scale up to more then you will have to make 2 tracks where one goes in each direction (and this is also going to need signals to work)

[shrewd palm]

typically people will put the engine at the front and then the freight cars at the back, although it doesnt matter so long as you have a station where the locomotive will be and freight platforms where the freight cars will be

[prime rampart]

FINALLY IT WORKED BRO TYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[shrewd palm]

no problem

[prime rampart]

nvm it didnt work let me show u the problem rq

it aint coming back

[shrewd palm]

did it just get stuck there?

[prime rampart]

yea

[shrewd palm]

the track might not be connected properly

[prime rampart]

its connected

[shrewd palm]

they usually dont just stop in the middle of nowhere unless its for something like that

[prime rampart]

no it stopped to the second train station but not bring materials

[harsh valley]

I'm an evil person and i deserve to be tortured and rot in hell for eternity

I decrafted one of those hard drive containing things not realising what it was

[prime rampart]

check screenshots

[small notch]

Shit weather, cold and boring

[shrewd palm]

no way for it to return, check out option 3 in this message ^^

[shy mulch]

You already removed the hard drive. You can't destroy them until the hard drive is removed so there's no risk of accidentally missing one

[harsh valley]

Then there was none?

Because i didn't remove it and then i found another one and only had one in my inv

[prime rampart]

so i need to make a railway connecting to the same railway like a uturn?

[shrewd palm]

yes

[hard ivy]

second locomotive at the back works too

[prime rampart]

what if i connect another locomotive?

[shrewd palm]

option 2 in the same message

[prime rampart]

with a extra locomotive no need for a uturn right?

[shrewd palm]

yes

[prime rampart]

damn this game

[shy mulch]

Would you be less frustrated if it just magically worked in a way that makes no sense?

[prime rampart]

yea

[shy mulch]

🤦

[prime rampart]

i thought bro would just reverse

[shy mulch]

You ever seen a train reversing between two stations?

[hard ivy]

the train not just not reverse, but it didn't even dock to the station properly in the first place because it's still backwards

[prime rampart]

eletric ones

[prime rampart]

ITS BACKWARD?

[shy mulch]

No, they won't ever go from one station to another fully in reverse. Drivers wouldn't be able to see for a start

[feral geyser]

If you want it to go back and forth, put a locomotive on both sides

[prime rampart]

ok nice now its not loading

[shy mulch]

Just make a loop back round so it can always go forward. Imo that's the neatest way

[prime rampart]

should it be load or unload if i want the train to take it

[shrewd palm]

load

[prime rampart]

it didnt dock

[hard ivy]

did you still not read the tutorial?

you can't just build randomm shit and expect it to work

[prime rampart]

I dID

i just dont get where arrow should be pointing at ARRIVAL

and where freight goes at arrival thats the ONLY thing

[shy mulch]

Please just watch a YouTube video

[hard ivy]

Then why did you put the platform after the station?

[unkempt blade]

why are you being so critical of my creative process?

[prime rampart]

idk

[shy mulch]

If you don't know, then you either haven't read what people said, or you haven't understood. Read it again and if there's a part you don't understand, say what part

You're making a fairly simple thing seem more complex than it is because you're not really thinking about it, just doing random stuff and guessing. This is a game you need to actually think about a little bit

[prime rampart]

the only part i dont understand is how do trains dock like should freight be infront or at the back of the station(loading) and at (unloading) should the freight be at the back of the staion or at the front

[limpid cairn]

🤦‍♀️

[shy mulch]

Have you ever seen a train in real life? Google some pictures of them if you haven't. See if the freight goes in front of the train or the back

[hard ivy]

3 people and the website already told you that

[prime rampart]

WHY WOULDNT U TELL ME

[prime rampart]

bro i put freight back it didnt work

[shy mulch]

And did it line up with your station? No

[prime rampart]

yes it did bro

[shy mulch]

The freight cars weren't where the freight platforms were. So they won't be able to dock

[prime rampart]

so i assume they shoUld be infront

of station

[shy mulch]

That makes no sense

[prime rampart]

How because when it was BEHIND THE STATION TRAIN WOULDNT GO TILL THJE END

[shy mulch]

It feels like you've never seen a real train station or train before

[feral geyser]

If your train goes Loco-freight-freight-freight,
Then you station has to go Station-Freight Platform-Freight Platform-Freight Platform

[shy mulch]

The train engine car stops where the station is. If the freight cars are behind it, it should be pretty obvious where the freight platforms need to be

[feral geyser]

In the order of the train cars, in the direction it will enter the station

[shrewd palm]

it doesnt matter where the parts of the station are where so long as they line up with the train and everything is running in the same direction

what nyaszul said

[prime rampart]

ohhhh i see why im doing this all wrong btw I MEANT FRONT AS IN BACK

[shy mulch]

Can anyone help me please. I'm trying to walk to the toilet and I keep putting my left foot forwards and my right foot backwards and my body isn't moving. Helpppp I need to get to the toilet

[limpid cairn]

the front references to the front of something

[limpid cairn]

just fly atp

[prime rampart]

shhh

time to test

YES IT WORKED FINALLYYYYYYYYYYYY

nvm station unreachable

[limpid cairn]

🤦‍♀️

[shy mulch]

Make a loop

[prime rampart]

it worked it worked

[shy mulch]

It's unreachable because it's at the end of the line, it can't move forward

[prime rampart]

no i have 2 locomotives

IT WORKED FINALLY

[shy mulch]

Great, 2nd best solution

[hard ivy]

Is the 2nd locomotive facing the same or different direction as the first 💀

[prime rampart]

different ofc im not that stupid

[shy mulch]

Well 😂

[prime rampart]

TIME FOR MULTIPLE TRAINS!!!!!!!

[shy mulch]

Please just do an entirely separate track for each train. My therapist charges too much for this

[prime rampart]

last question how do u connect rains together?

thats why i put 2locomotives

heh

should i transfer fluids or is that meh

[hard ivy]

I feel like someone's gonna die trying to teach you all the niche signalling rules

[shy mulch]

Yeah I'm gonna avoid that question 😂

[shrewd palm]

there are a LOT of videos on youtube explainaing all that, the ones by doc are all pretty good

[shy mulch]

There's plenty on train basics too, but he wasn't willing to watch them

[prime rampart]

who needs yt when i got u bro

how do i make heavy modular frames jk

[shy mulch]

You start by deleting all your factories

Let me know when you've done that and I'll share step 2

[hard ivy]

Like any other item

[prime rampart]

look at ss

[shy mulch]

Make a youtube channel next

[prime rampart]

YEAAAAA

[feral geyser]

You should make a munitions factory 😏 fun stuff

[prime rampart]

8hours in total playing satisfactory

[prime rampart]

do ui wanna see the fuel thingy?\

[feral geyser]

Yessss

[prime rampart]

ok watch

[feral geyser]

Is it working well?

[prime rampart]

very well

[feral geyser]

Hell yeah, mate 😎

[prime rampart]

i did 4because i ran out of motors

btw i added a pure crude node

[feral geyser]

That's okay, you can overclock them to each consume 25/min so the fuel doesn't back up

[wicked marlin]

3: hypertubes needs a booster ring. somtimes you go so slow in the pipes it'd be faster just to run.

[prime rampart]

fuel generators?

[feral geyser]

Yes

Put a shard in and set clock to 120%

Also, are you not storing any of the plastic/rubber?

[feral geyser]

Build an accelerator at the start of the tube, and at any place you want to go faster.

[prime rampart]

i was doing it quickly cause i had an tutor but at the end never connected them to storage

but i hvae another farm producing rubber/plastic

[feral geyser]

Ah okay then. You should manifold the outputs of each set of 5 so that you only have one belt for each resource

[prime rampart]

i think storing them would be better

[wicked marlin]

that ruins the aesthetic but its do able.
i was thinking of adding a multi-enterance accelerator mid way through the pipe but those are only one way...
i'd have to build a complex systemt to get around it lol

[feral geyser]

Oh yeah... one-way makes it trouble

[prime rampart]

whats after fuel generators?

[shrewd palm]

nuclear

[prime rampart]

FINALLY NUCLEAR

[wicked marlin]

actually talking about it gave me an idea for a two-way accelerator that works but focring you to branch off into a short loop that uses some enterances in the loop.
it'd work both ways. hopefully.

[prime rampart]

i watched too m,uch cherynobl

[viscid bobcat]

where tf do i find this quartz bro

this is like cleopatras tomb

[feral geyser]

Smart

[feral geyser]

Rocky desert savannah?

[viscid bobcat]

yes

[feral geyser]

Go east toward the bay that has the coal nodes

There is a cave entrance there

Also one on the northwest corner near those other coal nodes

[shy mulch]

Look on SCIM it will show you exactly where the entrances are

[feral geyser]

There is also a small hole in the wall on the north coast, but it's hard to find.

[wicked marlin]

I still think that just being able to plop an HT enternace down would be perfect.
maybe have a soft limit on how close they can be based on how vertical the tube is to prevent easy HT cannons.

[feral geyser]

NO, we are EXPLORERS

[nocturne orbit]

how many power shards is too many?

[feral geyser]

Undefined

[shrewd palm]

more than it takes to overclock everything i guess?

[shy mulch]

No such thing as too many. I'm making about 50/min I think

[latent meadow]

woot i got all 4 of my nuclear reactors online

[viscid bobcat]

too late man

[latent meadow]

went form 4k to 15k of energy

lol

i wont have energy problems for a while

[feral geyser]

Your F.E.E.T. badge has been revoked

[viscid bobcat]

i hate satisfactory calculator

15 ads on my screen

[nocturne orbit]

uh, out of what? and what for?..

[dense violet]

it's not the best.. Not the worst either.

Adblock it 😛

[shrewd palm]

you can automate them in phase 5

[shy mulch]

Out of whatever the recipe is, I forget, but they are used in a few recipes too

[feral geyser]

APAs and ionized fuel, mainly

[viscid bobcat]

omg this cave is amazing

so much quartz

[feral geyser]

Hell yeah it ks

[shy mulch]

Aha yeah that's it. I am feeding 4 augmenters which takes a few. Plus the ionized I just use for jetpack

[viscid bobcat]

and SAM too

[feral geyser]

And so many slugs up near the ceiling

[peak wasp]

which one?

[latent meadow]

some of the caves in this game are so beatiful

[shy mulch]

Yep just watch for spiders hehehe

[viscid bobcat]

the one near 4 coal nodes rocky savanna

[viscid bobcat]

creatures set to retaliation

and cat mode

[shy mulch]

Borrrrriiiiing

[feral geyser]

Bruh

[viscid bobcat]

cuz im a pussy

[peak wasp]

oh yehh, thats the one i go for my quartz usually

[feral geyser]

You can't even get your F.E.E.T. badge with critters on retaliate

[peak wasp]

i use those coals for either steel or spare plants depending on proximity or needs, so grabbing the quartz is sorta just second nature

[viscid bobcat]

i dont wanna play the game fighting for my life

those lava shooters are bs

I dont even care about the spiders

[peak wasp]

just brute force them lol

[viscid bobcat]

first time I played this game i kept dying

[peak wasp]

ive killed tons of the big spitters with the zapper alone just by getting under them lolz

[viscid bobcat]

I wanna build a factory

[peak wasp]

or you can play it like a cracked out cs:go player

[shy mulch]

If you like funky caves, look for the cluster of caterium nodes to the north west corner of the swamp

[feral geyser]

Don't attack me like this

[peak wasp]

I DO IT XD

[feral geyser]

You got an ammo factory?

[peak wasp]

i used to, i dont really play the game anymore due to life stuff

[feral geyser]

Awwww 😢

[peak wasp]

work 9 sleep 9, most of my spare time is management of self or playing VR instead

[viscid bobcat]

brooo

[peak wasp]

i dont have the free time i used to back in U5

[feral geyser]

I hope everything works well enough that you get some more free time.

[viscid bobcat]

i didnt even know I had t his much quartz

close by, I went to the cherry place with all that uranium

[peak wasp]

you'll need it too X3

[laughs in oscillator]

[viscid bobcat]

and I almost died from radiation poisoning

[peak wasp]

i never liked workin around uranium

but its easy points early game if you have an accessible node

[feral geyser]

Filters ain't so bad to make

[peak wasp]

gah, i dont mind it at all. rat race ceases for nobody -w-

[peak wasp]

it was more of not giving a damn lolz

[peak wasp]

not to count i have carpal tunnel anyways, i couldnt play this game reliably after a certain point without my wrist deciding to hit a nerve jiggy and start failing

same thing happened with minecraft ;w;

[wicked marlin]

the solution was much simpler.
have the uphill tube use a branch pipe with the primary exist going into a small accelerator, and have the downhill tube bypass it with a branch pipe's primary exit going around it.
edit: screen shot
#screenshots message

[feral geyser]

Smart AF

Now what i wanna try is, can we make a circular accelerator with multiple branches to go whichever path we want

[wicked marlin]

with my current understanding of HT mechanics (i've never used this system before, my 'co-worker' and I aways ignored them)- no. probably not.

er well
hold on...

[unkempt blade]

you need to unlock blade clickers in the MAM, they help a lot with RSIs

[outer hatch]

Well, you can make a roundabout with Junction Branches, which will accelerate you if you stay on it.

Make sure it is going clockwise, though, what with the junction going to the left. (We should have the option to have right-splitting junctions. (That or is me using the Controller mode instead of K+M locks me out of rotation options?)

[feral geyser]

You good

[feral geyser]

I'll have to try that out

[outer hatch]

Long day, should eat.

[wintry carbon]

wich one is better for suplying ores to a build line. 2 lines to 2 different asemble lines and 1 line for outtake or the otherway 2 outlines and 1 inline for both sides?

[unkempt blade]

there's not a better one, it just depends how you want to build stuff

[restive summit]

are save files saved client or in the steam cloud?

[steady glade]

yes

[hard ivy]

Both

[leaden dome]

saves go to the cloud and the local files. Blueprints go to local files only tho

[restive summit]

Gotcha

[wicked marlin]

I chose not to use looping HT accelerators because i've gotten stuck in a loop twice now and while they are stylish, they are uglier than a simple sequential accelerator.
looping HT accelerator loops are best used for cannons. not tube speed buffs.

keep in mind idk wtf im talking about and im illegitimate (i cannot read)

[wicked marlin]

i did it.
its not circular because i dont like making accelerator loops, (cannon loops are fine)
#screenshots message

just add a junction and more of these bi-directional HTAs to each path and you're gold.
extend the HTA as needed.

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah too easy to get stuck or accidentally send yourself flying out of bounds nearly instantly. You can fit a non circular one that gets you across the map in a blueprint what else do you need.

[feral geyser]

That's sick, decently compact, and easily blueprintable.
Daaamn, the big three 🫡

[prime jasper]

Gentlemans, I have the pleasure to announce you that my nuke production line is complete.

[wicked marlin]

The only problem is actually picking a path once you’ve gone through the accelerator.
When i can i’ll work on a v2 that accounts for that.

[uncut pier]

#screenshots message

hello was hopping to get this quick question answered about using satisfactory calculator website

[frail sleet]

use Tools or Modeller instead

for tools disable recipies that you don't want to use, for modeller just make the node as the recipe that you want

[uncut pier]

are those different websites?

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production so trying too brainstorm at work cuz it's all I can think about and refineries on bottom floor with blenders on top and then smelters would prolly be best yes? Cuz normally I like doing least too most advanced but the smelters would either need too be top or bottom tbh with how many bottom might be better idk looking for opinions always helps me think of new ideas especially when stuck or unable too play

[late tartan]

how do you switch branches in the hypertube when entering a branch or junction?

[shrewd palm]

tools is a website and modeler is a program on steam

tools will make a factory for you depending on what/how many resources you want, recipes, etc

modeler does the same thing but is more of a planner

[silk ocean]

I've done it again... loaded what I thought was SAM... turned out to be Quartz.. Really need to pay more attention XD

[shrewd palm]

happens to the best of us

[limpid cairn]

Are you blind perchance

[silk ocean]

Probably more just been playing too long, complacency, lack of attention, the usual

[meager fern]

In the menu you can choose the steel screws or whatever alt you want

[silk ocean]

Doesn't matter, I have a global rail network, I just redirected the train to Quartz incoming

[shy mulch]

Good evening pioneers

What interesting projects is everyone up to

[silk ocean]

Procrastination

[shy mulch]

Best thing to not do

[fleet geyser]

Anybody wanna be friends?

[silk ocean]

xD

[lucid pulsar]

drivin the explorer with jump pads set up around is so peak

[shy mulch]

I made a ramp up to the edge of the playable area, 2km high, drove my explorer up it and straight off the end

[hollow quarry]

#screenshots message
Why isnt this working? they are getting 600 from a pure oil, max overcharged and they take a total of 600? why are they stuttering?

[plain osprey]

how do i change how often my game autosaves?

[nocturne condor]

So what is the ratio for water and coal for each coal gen?

[silk ocean]

2 per 5 I think is optimal?

[hollow quarry]

Options, Gameplay, Autosave Interval

[plain osprey]

thanks

[shy mulch]

1 coal node + 3 water extractors = 8 coal gens

[hard ivy]

because the pipe is below the refinery inputs

[hollow quarry]

but but but, there are pumps

[hard ivy]

won't help with a 600/min pipe

[silk ocean]

Ah yes 3 for 8 not 2 for 5, less ideal xD

[vale valve]

does anyone have a sever i can play on?

[hollow quarry]

so what if i go up from the extractor and then make a line over there?

[silver notch]

i miss satisfactory 😭

[hard ivy]

put a horizontal pipe like 4m above and to the side of the refinery inputs, put horizontal junctions on it, connect them to refineries with short S-shaped pipes

connect the 600/min oil pipe preferably to one of the junctions in the middle of the manifold, though connecting to the end should work too

[hollow quarry]

#screenshots message
so like this?

[minor oracle]

you can still play it its not gone

[silver notch]

my computer is broken

[minor oracle]

how

was it really old or something

[silk ocean]

Spilt a beer into it?

[white dawn]

kurt russel losing a game of chess in The Thing dot jpeg

[hollow quarry]

does it matter if all pipes are horizontal?

(for the other side)

[hard ivy]

the output?

[hollow quarry]

yea, for the fuel powered generators

[hard ivy]

avoiding angled and vertical junctions is generally a good idea. they're a bit buggy

[hollow quarry]

#screenshots message
Clerification

that is not how you spell that word XD

-# i think

WAIT!, how fast can an AWESOME Sink, well sink stuff?

[hard ivy]

as fast as you can feed it items

[hollow quarry]

guess it just was the belts that wasnt high enough PHEW!

WHY WOULD ANYONE USE the alternative Recycled plastic?

cost rubber and fuel

[hard ivy]

it's part of the most efficient chain for plastic/rubber :)

[hollow quarry]

huh?

ohh give it some fuel and u esstenially double the production

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=4UkElQQN1E5aZRASIwG9

[silk ocean]

Seeing as that is basically just 300 crude, pretty awesome

water doesn't really count

[plush dawn]

water sometimes counts

[silk ocean]

Well only in terms of power

[white dawn]

Yeah, you feed Recycled Rubber + Recycled Plastic into each other, fed by HOR+Diluted Fuel (with Residual Rubber to "prime" the loop) and you get 3x the crude oil as whatever ratio of rubber/plastic/fuel you want

It's a somewhat complex setup but it's the most oil-efficient in the game

[plush dawn]

no, i dont like lots of water if there is none around

[cunning glade]

Phase 4 at about 110hours decent?

Don't really care for my speed but someone said I was making good progress pretty quickly

[silk ocean]

I have a spare oil node on the gold coast, lots of water, I think I'll build that tomorrow xD

[plush dawn]

my plastic and rubber plant is real jank

[white dawn]

People play at all sorts of different speeds. There's no good/decent/bad timing

[rocky elm]

I'm at 240h and I'm currently working on my first rubber factory

[plush dawn]

it was a fuel plant that i removed the generators for and spaghettified to make more rubber and plastic

[frail sleet]

pipe bottleneck

[plush dawn]

my base is like if i started making lasagna and ran out of the pasta sheets so i had to use angel hair pasta instead

[white dawn]

Open a #1038092680493801533 thread w/ screenshots; much easier to work when you can inline images

[outer hatch]

A good resource to (re)view on the subject of pipes : https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[silk ocean]

Can you screenshot from above? Kinda hard to see what's going on there

Looks like that 300/min pipe is serving a lot of coal gens

If they add up to more than 300 that's your answer

They are 45/min each I think

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch thanks mate

[shy mulch]

@versed mesa hope that circle thing works out for you
If you do 3 clicks (15 degrees) then you need to zoop out 3 foundations each way from the centre
If 2 clicks (10 degrees) then zoop out 5 each way
If 1 click (5 degrees) then zoop out 10 each way
Less clicks = bigger circle = cleaner finish
The way I showed you is about the best you'll get with that size, from distance it looks good but up close it might seem a bit out, nothing you can do about that though it's just geometry

[versed mesa]

Ah i get it thanks bro

[sullen gull]

Or Curvebuilder mod 😏

[versed mesa]

Tbh ive got it i dont know how it works and ive seen the curve mode I would need someone to explain it to me to find out

@shy mulch ill share my results soon

[sullen gull]

What are you trying to figure out? Use alt to switch the "curve" mode. parallel is good for making roads, Circles for making ... circles.. Though, it's based on number of foundations and not a radius. Zoop can be good for making circles as well, based on a radius, but doesn't lay them out "evenly" like with using the Circle option.

[shy mulch]

Mods to do things that can be done without them is a skill issue 😝

[sullen gull]

Which, all can be done in vanilla ofc, just takes a lot more time comparatively.

[versed mesa]

Yeah i know how to select curve i just not sure how to set it up to work

[sullen gull]

Time issue my friend, time issue.

[versed mesa]

It is lmfao

[sullen gull]

One thing that tripped me up is if you hit H when trying to do zoop or parallel, you'll have to "unlock" it to zoop.

After clicking once to start the zoop. With circle, you'll just have a foundation as the "center" that you can delete later if wanted.

[versed mesa]

Yeah sorry I dont understand fully and ive just waken up lol

[sullen gull]

I've spent plenty of time doing circles/curves via the manual ways. (catwalks, beams, rotated foundations, etc. And honesly, I got to the point where I would rather spend 1 minute vs 20 or more.

[real shale]

gotta love the boombox bug

[versed mesa]

Its just seams the same way @shy mulch showed me lol

[sullen gull]

Which bug is that?

[real shale]

the one where the music starts playing twice over at the same time

[sullen gull]

Ahh heh

[real shale]

not that im complaining, listening to tier 1 twice over boosts my productivity by over 300%

[vale valve]

anyone got a server i can play on?

[shrewd palm]

#1201555265942724758

[versed mesa]

@sullen gull is there a clip how the mod works in action?

[sullen gull]

Already working on it 🤣 uno memento

[versed mesa]

Or thanks mate

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

Stopped it too early so you don't see the circle built, but should get the point lol

[sullen gull]

Also, the increments I use: #screenshots message

But, you could go down to like .01 to make super fine adjustments

[versed mesa]

@sullen gull can it only be done with 2m foundation?

[sullen gull]

No, any foundations (though milage may vary). as well as walls, pillars, windows.

catwalks, and probably a few others.

[random shore]

how many coal generators did everyone build before switching to different methods of power

[versed mesa]

Well it dont look working tome

[sullen gull]

I did 5 banks of 8

[sullen gull]

On your end? or in the clip?

[versed mesa]

In game

[random shore]

thats about where I'm at, will 600MW be enough to get plastic, rubber, and fuel power going?

[sullen gull]

If you hit H to lock a foundation, you'll have to hit H again after clicking once to allow for zooping

[quick verge]

Can water be....too deep for extractors? I keep getting a must be in deep water message, but Im out on the edge of Rocky desert. Do you have to be closer to shore to use them?

[sullen gull]

Are you waaaay out in the ocean?

[white dawn]

There's some bugged areas of water which just don't count as water, alas

If you jump in for a dip, you'll likely discover that swimming doesn't work as you'd hope

[quick verge]

Probably here, considering if I fall into it I fall through the world to my death

[white dawn]

An annoying thing which I hope they eventually straighten out. Once you're aware of it you get used to checking your water fields for extractor viability before building things out

[versed mesa]

@sullen gull its just not wanted to move into a curve

[white dawn]

But if you're not aware then it's easy to get caught out by it

[quick verge]

Thanks!

[sullen gull]

Assuming you're in the ocean, way out away from the coast? That's the main area I've had issues.

[versed mesa]

Just straight lines

[sullen gull]

Mind if I DM?

[versed mesa]

Yeah sure

[cunning glade]

Fair enough

[quick verge]

https://i.imgur.com/MzMMKOd.jpeg - Not that far really

[white dawn]

Also, amusingly, I discovered on my 1.0 save an area where sea level slightly changes as you build out. Was building diluted fuel power off the gold coast (or whatever it's called nowadays) and my foundations which were comfortably above water nearer the coast were ever-so-slightly underwater at the "end" of the line

Glad I'd only been placing the alignment foundations; just raised the whole thing by 1 so the end of the "pier" didn't look too wet. :)

[sullen gull]

Firstly, you can poset screens in #screenshots. that way people don't have to leave the discord evironment. Secondly, another way that error has come up for me is if the extractor was encorching on a foundation

[quick verge]

Sorry, its just the capture software I use. Its easier than taking a screenshot and uploading, but Ill do that in the future.

[nocturne condor]

#screenshots message

A pipe with no water and I dont know why, everything else is working fine even ones with the exact same set up, but this one is not for some reason/ not pumping water into the gen when it does have water

[sullen gull]

Fair, and no worries. I always just stat because I'm sure some would have issues 🤷‍♂️

[latent meadow]

Ficist cause power it fun

lol

[sullen gull]

There is a chance that a segment didn't get connected right, Should be able to trace where it stops and try to rebuild after that.

[nocturne condor]

Nope this was in the middle of the build, everything past it was working normally without issue when built exactly the same

[sullen gull]

Also, you really should not need a pump at every machine like that. Only should need pumps to get it high enough to go into the manifold and that's it.

[real shale]

aww, i cant paint round concrete beams, was hoping to add metal paint to them to make substation busbars

[sullen gull]

Also, take a look at the CG setups on the wiki. 8 generators need 360m^3 and can't just be piped from one end if doing that by chance.

[nocturne condor]

I do know that but water wasnt going nearly far enough and i was trying to get pumps as i coujldnt get water where it needed to be. it WAS helping and doing its job other than that one that it wasnt

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[sullen gull]

@nocturne condor take a look at that link and the common setups towards the bottom. You'll want to try and mimic these.

[hard ivy]

wow the bot works now

[sullen gull]

-ish lol

[reef basin]

works fine

[sullen gull]

Where's the picture of the link though? 😏

[hard ivy]

the bot didn't get embed perms lol

[reef basin]

not fault of the bot

[nocturne condor]

yeah that would be the issue then i guess, i didnt realize how it worked

[sullen gull]

The main reason being due to mk1 pipe flow limits. 8 gens need 360m^3/min, and the pipes can only carry 300. You need to flow ,at minimum from both ends to achieve full supply.

if only trying to feed from one end, you will end up with at least one gen having issues.

[regal geode]

Is starting today and building the space elevator or whatever its called good?

[sullen gull]

I mean, sure. Really personal preference. Some only build it when ready to feed it items. But, if not built, it doesn't show what's required in the top corner.

[regal geode]

I started game today and built the space elevator and currently expanding my iron and copper stuff

Also when do you get nuclear?

[outer hatch]

Oh, that's far

[hard ivy]

tier 8

[regal geode]

Aw man...

I want my pasta with some uranium

[sullen gull]

That's ok, LOTS of learning the production side of things before you get there 😏

[regal geode]

And a glass of nuclear waste

[hard ivy]

unfortunately pasta in this game cannot be made with uranium

[unkempt blade]

first you must master factory carts then you'll be ready for nuclear power

[sullen gull]

I mean, it probably "could" lol. Just definately not very "effeicient" 🤣

[hard ivy]

how do you put uranium into the nuclear pasta production chain?

[regal geode]

?

[sullen gull]

Oh .... hah.. I see what you did there lol

[unkempt blade]

they're the most adorable vehicle in the game and they're "mandatory" to start doing cool stuff

[regal geode]

Ok

Oh yeah is doing phase one good?

[sullen gull]

I mean, kinda need to complete all the phases eventually to "progress"

[regal geode]

I also don't know why i put the space elevator ontop of a enormous mountain

[outer hatch]

Because it's cooler 😎

[regal geode]

Now i just gotta work for my uranium pasta and nuclear waste

I think i chopped down the whole worlds trees

Because i can't find any

Should i go into the void

[nocturne condor]

well i changed it up to (more) match one of the designes but still having flow issues. they keep running out of water despite the fact i have more than enough flowing in from left side, right side and the middle. i just dont GET IT. like why does flow rate keep dropping when theres a pump running full speed and its full of water

[sullen gull]

Using three water exctractors? All at 120? Didn't forget power on one by chance?

Or forget to power a pump maybe?

[nocturne condor]

all running pumps and extractors. ill post a new screenshot of what it looks like

[outer hatch]

And everything as flat and level as humanly possible?

[limpid cairn]

You consume nuclear power !!!

[sullen gull]

Also, it is "best practice" would be to let the gens fill completely by either putting things in standby or clocking the gens to .1% via copy/paste.

[nocturne condor]

no but thats why i have pumps, arent pumps supposed to negate that?

[sullen gull]

Not exactly an issue provided there is enough headlift

[hard ivy]

yeah, but even then the pasta still doesn't contain uranium

[sullen gull]

Take a look at your pumps as well. How much headlift are they giving.. are they going over thier max?

[rustic snow]

Hey would it be smart to use my tractor to transport all of my resource and factory locations to 1 certain spot on my map as a main base?

[regal geode]

Is this a game about engineering or architecture?

[sullen gull]

yes

[leaden dome]

@nocturne condor raise the manifold spine above the generators. As it stands when the water tries to flow up to a full generator it crashes down and sloshes

[regal geode]

Engineering or architecture?

[nocturne condor]

no not even close

[outer hatch]

The thing is, headlift or no headlift, the game will try filling all the low pipes first.

[nocturne condor]

I have no clue what that means if im being honost

[sullen gull]

Double check the each segment going to the gen, do they all have atleast some water in them?

If you find one without, rebuild it.

[leaden dome]

The pipes going into the generators should be above the generators because water flows down

[sullen gull]

And, also, I would try the steps mentioned before to let the gens fill completely first, then try running it.

[nocturne condor]

all of them are 100% full of water with no empty space other than the exit pipes to the gens

[sullen gull]

If the pumps are providing enough headlift, and not maxing out, it should be fine.

[sullen gull]

If you're setup for it, I don't mind connecting to see it and try to help. Or you could also just DM the save if you'd like.

[leaden dome]

regardless it’s easier to work with gravity than against it

[nocturne condor]

Well yes I know it does, but i have pumps not hitting their maximum headlift that should be pushing all the water where it needs to go

[outer hatch]

The thing is, even if there's enough headlift to clear the pipes' height, the game will first try and fill the lower pipe first. So nothing will go into any of the upper pipes until the manifold's common pipe is filled (and it will clog because 360>300!)

While, if the manifold is level or above the generator line, the to-the-generator pipes will be filled alongside (or even prioritised, if below) the manifold common pipe.

[nocturne condor]

this might have fixed the issue

They are working fine now and staying at 100% water, ill keep an eye for a while longer though

whats funny is I already tried the turn it off and back on stratetgy, idk why it didnt work the first time

[sullen gull]

They are, however, not wrong. A manifold laid even with, or better yet above, the machine inputs should always perform better, or at least more "reliable" than what you have setup. Having said that though, what you have 'should' work.

[burnt ferry]

it seems like you want t avoid too long segments of traintracks separated by path signals, as it seems like a train far away can then reserve a full path through the entire system, blocking trains that could get out of the way minutes before the train with the reserved path arrives

[nocturne condor]

Well yes I do agree fully with that and it is what I would have built if i didnt already build this platform super high up way higher than I should have and I dont want to rebuild it all

[outer hatch]

... which is understandable.

[sullen gull]

You can build as high as you want. Only thing that changes are the mount of pumps you would need to get it up to (idealy above) your required height.

[nocturne condor]

anyway the system is running perfectly now

thanks for the help

[burnt ferry]

my water setup never reach 100% efficiency, unless fed by a buffer that gets never empty (ie is filled faster than it is emptied)

[nocturne condor]

now i have to take the super long trek of power pole mk1 to my base!

[burnt ferry]

one machine always will idle and oddly enough, the water extractors seem to cause it.. they get blocked occasionally, making them idle for like a second, causing drops along the manifolds they fed into

[sullen gull]

This is typically when trying to feed a manifold from only one end.

[cunning siren]

The OCD battle of attempting to get every pole 100% length 🤦 If only the game would auto snap to the longest size vs turn red

[burnt ferry]

you only need to feed from two ends if you consume more than 600/min and the machinery are not dividing perfectly into the amount

you can track the flowthrough along the way in the sections between the machinery...

as soon as that is lower than one machine needs you need to feed an additional source before that point into the system

but besides that: i usally setup my pipes circular anyway, so the issue is ruled out for sure

[sullen gull]

I completely disagree. Fluids are designed to flow in both directions. If only feeding from one end, you now have the issue of "pressure drop". Where the following segment's flow is hindered by the capacity of the one before it. If you distribute the flow evenly among a manifold, the fluid will always find it's way to the machine.

[burnt ferry]

you cnt disagree.. i havent stated an opinion

you can prroof me wrong

[sullen gull]

SHow me a setup and I put money that I can get it working 100%

[rigid mist]

why can't we colour metal pillars pleaaaase

[sullen gull]

concrete pillars can be coloured though.

[rigid mist]

fair fair

[burnt ferry]

the system yoiu will face alredy is fed from two sides.. tell me what you plan to do else?

[sullen gull]

Idk, I'd have to see it 🙂 Mostly likely also split it to the middle.

[burnt ferry]

lul

[outer scarab]

my blueprints have stopped snapping. I just started playing again after 3 days, was there an update?

[nocturne condor]

you all ever think about how plants are a limited resource in this game? thus biofuel is limited

[sullen gull]

I would almost bet, that the pipe segments on either side of the machine having issues are not full.

[outer scarab]

no b/c biofuel isn't viable

also plants regrow

[nocturne condor]

Do they? looking it up said they dont

[outer scarab]

as long as you dont build on them

[burnt ferry]

without being judgemental.. thats rookie.. i mean i know where youre coming from.. just checkout your own setups you believe working 100% perfectly without overfeeding water

[sullen gull]

And, remains can be used as biomass if wanted.

[outer scarab]

I get trees growing in my base all the time

[dusky coral]

140hrs in i discovered the auto connect building function... gg me

[cunning siren]

IDK this was a thing

[outer scarab]

the auto connect is new

[sullen gull]

I never "over feed" The supply is always exactly what's being called for

[outer scarab]

the auto connect is the only reason I'm back playing

[burnt ferry]

then watch the graphs for a while

and the LEDs on the machineries

[sullen gull]

Lol, I do. Even went so far as using Ficist-Networks before to watch everything all at once 😏

[burnt ferry]

wild guess: youre prolly prefilling

[sullen gull]

And, all my lights stay a nice solid blue 🙂

[burnt ferry]

thinking that solves the problem when it just postpones it

[sullen gull]

Rookie if you don't imo

[burnt ferry]

blue??

wrong game? 😂

[sullen gull]

I overclock everything mate.

[rigid mist]

is there a way to build walls on an angle #screenshots message

[leaden dome]

calling someone else rookie and then not knowing that overclocked machines have blue lights is crazy

[burnt ferry]

that doesnt change the led.. at least not forpower shards

[sullen gull]

Ummm, yes, it does.

[leaden dome]

this has gotta be bait there’s no way

[sullen gull]

Normal is green, problems yellow, OC'd blue

[burnt ferry]

it white

[placid stirrup]

and then purple is Barney

[sullen gull]

Looks bluish on my screen, but will concede that you may be right and they are in fact white.

[burnt ferry]

i say its white, but i can see what you mean when i watch closely.. im overclocking everything as well, so i figured white was the normal light 😂

i continue calling it white because thats what it clearly looks like to me but i can see ho it has a slightly blue tint

could be my graphic settings

[placid stirrup]

Unless you've built only micro factories I'd say it's pretty impossible to OC every single machine before you get to producing your own shards

I would assume it gets more blue the higher your graphics settings are

[burnt ferry]

i havent build larger factories before phase 4.. also i dont overclock everything fully.some just take onye one shard

and with slopped shard production started right from the beginning, you can get a decent amount of shards early game.. i have like 400 in another savegame

and i am producing my own shards for some time now, so im not building anything not overclocked anymore

[burnt ferry]

im talking color settings my humble bro

[rigid mist]

do i make doof tower with ficsit walls or with steel walls

[cunning siren]

Checker board one of each

[rigid mist]

nooooooooooooooooo

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message see, that looks "bluish" to me 🤣

[cunning siren]

Willy Wonka this factory!

[burnt ferry]

#screenshots message light blue at best.. and when loooking from distance it just looks white

[burnt ferry]

brah!

thats WHITE 😂

[rigid mist]

blue

have you been checked for colour blindness?

[sullen gull]

So, first ones shown are doing 3k copper ingot, and the other bldg is doing about 6k iron ingot. To me, the first bank looks more white, but the ones in the "shade" look "blueish" #screenshots message

[real shale]

okay so today i learned spitters can detonate nobelisks

[placid stirrup]

The color is Columbia

[burnt ferry]

thats illusion..they all look white to me... if the devs actually put that to indicat overclocking level they did an insanely bad job on colors

[sullen gull]

But, all solid on the light, all at 100%, and no "lags"

[rigid mist]

wait steel walls can't be painted

[rigid mist]

i read that as splitters

[burnt ferry]

which they dont usually.. so i doubt theres any difference

[placid stirrup]

Or light cyan

[real shale]

you get a somersloop for effort

[sullen gull]

Nope. Only ones are concrete and standard ficsit. Though I think the standard look the "best" colored

[sullen gull]

But you can also "detonate" thier plasma ball they spit at you before it hits you as well 😏

[real shale]

well that i did know after discovering turbo ammo

[burnt ferry]

@sullen gull #screenshots message left one is at 1shard, second to left at 2shards, third t left has 3 shards, right most is at 50%

[sullen gull]

Yeah, they still look "bluish" on my screen 🤣

[leaden dome]

that’s blue bro

[sullen gull]

BUT, as I said, I do concede and agree they could be white lol

[burnt ferry]

were past that.. this screenshot is about there not bveing a difference

all blue/white/cyan/watever tones are the same

[sullen gull]

Ahhh, yeah, I agree... As I work in automation and integration, I agree that there could be a better "indication" of status'

[cunning siren]

"There are FOUR lights!!!" - Picard

[sullen gull]

Sup @cunning siren How goes the building today?

[cunning siren]

🤷 I think my wrist hurts from playing to much with bad ergonomics so... taking a break

[mortal ginkgo]

Guys I am at Phase 2 and game offered me Steamed Copper Sheet..

[sullen gull]

I feel that

[mortal ginkgo]

I get it, I can get water, I can get copper sheet, but brotherman I GOT NO REFINERY

[burnt ferry]

damn.... that game

😂

[burnt ferry]

keep it undecided... prevents the next hdd from rolling the same recipes again

[sullen gull]

Lol, pretty sure he knows ... it's just the funny audacity of it I think

[mortal ginkgo]

I needed the other recipe but I still think this is silly

Like brother, game can't even give the name of "Produced In"

[burnt ferry]

jin fact im confused. in my other save game i couldnt unlock any of the pure recipes before we had refineries.. could be an exception for the copper sheet but still strange

but we also unlocked refineries immediately.. might as well be the phase that had blocked it

[mortal ginkgo]

Something is wonky with some recipes I think. Some people reporting that they get fuel recipes that only Blender can make while being at phase 3.

[sullen gull]

I feel that.. when I first got this game, I binged it hardcore the first two weeks (Even had one 72 hour straight play time lol)

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, it is still better than having Charcoal and Biocoal.

If I get those recipes I SWEAR TO GOD-

[sullen gull]

That is odd.

[sullen gull]

Wait ... I'm not supossed to use Charcoal to feed 40 coal gens?!

[burnt ferry]

as we thouroughly did not pick ANY recipe we didnt wanted yet, we quickly reached the point where it said 'no more recipes available' when attempting to scan a hdd

without any pure recipes... we onlly got them after refineries.. but we didnt try to scan hdd after finishing the phase but before unlocking refineries... we unlocked refinieres immediately

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I've gotten that many of times. Never had the issue of having something unlocked and not be able to use it yet though lol. Then again, I may have not been paying attention 🤣

[mortal ginkgo]

Funny enough, 1 wood to 10 coal is REALLY good and hours of extra power incase you go "well I guess I dont want game to render trees anymore" mod.

ALso Charcoal and Biocoal is really meant for emergency poison filter making.. which isn't needed at all because you can spam Inhalers..

Devs just goofed imho 😛

[burnt ferry]

devs just did everything to make the game fun and not a burden

[leaden dome]

I don’t understand why both recipes exist

[sullen gull]

Ooof ... do people actually use the gas noblisk? I mean, I've heard they "could" be good for clearing out a cave lol,

[burnt ferry]

frag nob ftw

[mortal ginkgo]

can you add "including fluid system" to that sentence of yours so I can giggle like a cute little anime girl irl?

[leaden dome]

You can turn wood into biomass so why is there a recipe for making wood into coal and also a recipe for making biomass into coal

[sullen gull]

I just ignored them when I built my main weaons plant. (all ammo and filters, except for gas noblisk)

[mortal ginkgo]

for whatever emergency you are in, you can use both recipes to make gas filters with pure world drops

[burnt ferry]

you can hire tinker to fix your fluid setups. in fAct he even pays you for it

[sullen gull]

Because there are coal gens. And coal lasts a tad longer in vehicles as well afaik.

[worldly pelican]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[mortal ginkgo]

I got no problem with fluid system but I still wanted to giggle like a cute lil anime girl irl

[leaden dome]

that doesn’t answer my question

[sullen gull]

Lol, wait now ... I never said that ... I would only "pay" if I didn't win the bet 🤣

[burnt ferry]

biomass is for biomass burners whch dont feed batteries.. coal generators do

so you can feed batteries with your leaves and wood with that recipe

[sullen gull]

Oooh, well there ya go 😛

[leaden dome]

but you can accomplish the same thing without the existence of the charcoal recipe

[rigid mist]

huh the hologram is actually a light

[burnt ferry]

two different recipes for the same thing confuse you in this game??

[shy mulch]

alternates are just that, alternates, they give you options

[mortal ginkgo]

this is about having an option. also biomass to biocoal is very bad compared to other recipe.

Not everyone has those 2 recipes and it becomes extremely hard to get them as you progress, reason being the poll of recipes increase tremendously.

I know that I didnt see any of those 2 recipes for a REALLY long time once.

[burnt ferry]

you can get iron ingots without the pure recipe or without the leached recipe or without all the other alt recipes. but why sould you when you dont have to?

[sullen gull]

I kinda hate the way the hologram looks. Too hard to "see" certain things... LIke that dumb line on the asphalt foundations 😒

[rigid mist]

yea

[leaden dome]

two different recipes where the only difference is removing one intermediary constructor does yes

[mortal ginkgo]

again, whats being goofed up is that, those recipes are just probably "testing waters with how strong poison to be poison" and devs had to choose between "make poison really dangerous that gas filters may need to be made in world" or "just let them use inhalers bruh".

they went for inhalers.

[rigid mist]

should i put the water for my nuclear plants in above them or below

[burnt ferry]

thats how a good portion of the other recipes work as well?

[mortal ginkgo]

right in the middle

[sullen gull]

Plumb to a level above the inputs

[leaden dome]

really? which ones?

[rigid mist]

i'll do it above

[burnt ferry]

just cutting production steps... often having way higher production numbers, which is sometiomes 'hidden' by the in game recipe index

[rigid mist]

which means i get to put off building the 100.8 pipes yippeee

[sullen gull]

Doesn't have to be much as it looks like you're already going up... just 2m above the inputs are fine imo.

[sullen gull]

Auto connect is your best friend.

[mortal ginkgo]

This MaM be trolling me. Now it gives me 2 recipes that I want at the same time. I Q_Q

[burnt ferry]

wait a minute.. are you taliking about wood -> charcoal vs biomass to coal?

[mortal ginkgo]

What he is saying is "why 2 exists" and we are going "why not".

[sullen gull]

from#screenshots message

[rigid mist]

yup that's why i made a giant blueprint

[sullen gull]

#design-and-architecture message

[rigid mist]

i can't watch your videos

[burnt ferry]

na im adressing him saying 'its only missing one intermediate step' .. whereas biomass to coal has 4 different base materials you can make coal from vs charcoal only having one

that totally changes ratios and i unlocked all recipes in my save game, so i dont see what they could talk about else

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, I simplied the "issue".

[leaden dome]

yes

[burnt ferry]

basically you are righ t of course.. thats how ALL these discussions go

[mortal ginkgo]

Again though, it is common for recipes to "cut X", "cost more power", "question your sanity"

[sullen gull]

Any, or just the old ones?

[rigid mist]

are they MOV format?

[sullen gull]

mp4 iirc

[burnt ferry]

in this case , see what i wrote.. its a lot more of a difference then you think

[mortal ginkgo]

I will say it is a silly thing to ask but hey, I ain't to judge.

[rigid mist]

are you using h264 encoding?

[burnt ferry]

i wont... weve all been through this

[sullen gull]

@versed mesa Noice ... go the circle portion working. What'd you find out about zoop?

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, this community goes through "cast screws and its existence" in a daily basis and multiple times.

Nothing surprises me about this discord at this point.

[burnt ferry]

of course!!! because steel screws 😂 better yet, screwless

[finite egret]

If I overclock a mk 1 does it stay overclocked if i upgrade to mk 2?

[burnt ferry]

but i gotcha 😂

[burnt ferry]

no

[sullen gull]

You're right, It's steel screws + alu beams or bust! 🤣

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, I was once surprised that a guy in reddit with 200 hour gameplay never touched a Somersloop or Mercer Sphere.

People thought he was ragebaiting.

I think he thought those were just decorations of game because game never tells or even hints about them, and you really need to hug them to see "grab" command.

So I kek brotherman.

I kek, with all my heart and honesty.

[leaden dome]

why does this make a difference?

[burnt ferry]

i wrote it.. charcoal can only take wood to make coal.. biomass to coal can take leavse, wood, mycelia or alien protein to make coal

[sullen gull]

No, but you get the shard(s) back and you can just put them into the mk2/3

[mortal ginkgo]

to add this it got a worse /min ratio.

I mean.. this is not..

[versed mesa]

Its vanilla the way @shy mulch showed me

[leaden dome]

sorry, I understand that there exists a difference, what I meant is I don’t understand why the difference matters

is it fr just different to be different?

[sullen gull]

Making a BP of the radius you want I presume?

[burnt ferry]

those recipes are very different.. not at all an example of the cast screws situation 😂 hence i was investigat9ing further

[mortal ginkgo]

it is to have an option with various possibilities, thats why there are 69420 amount of different recipes that one can use with Iron.

[versed mesa]

@sullen gull ive been on it fir atleast a goid hour trying to get it right lol

[mortal ginkgo]

I am not sure what else we can tell you.

[burnt ferry]

all those mats have completely different ratio to get from base mat to coal????

[mortal ginkgo]

One recipe directly takes Wood with great ratio.
Other one takes all sort of world drops but with lesser ratio.

[burnt ferry]

mycelia to biomass is insane compared to wood

[mortal ginkgo]

Their main use is for Filters.

[mortal ginkgo]

but it is also.. "rare-ish"

[leaden dome]

ok this makes sense

[versed mesa]

@shy mulch what do you think mate #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Here is also a good video that goes into ways of doing it in vanilla: #design-and-architecture message

[burnt ferry]

depends on biome, but overall yes, theres more wood

[leaden dome]

Did someone say “charcoal makes wood into coal more efficiently” already and I’m just blind?

[burnt ferry]

thats literally what i said

[leaden dome]

bc that’s what I needed to hear

[burnt ferry]

i said the ratios are different, which suggests that one of which is

[sullen gull]

That's more or less what @burnt ferry has been saying 😏

[mortal ginkgo]

Another thing to keep in mind:

"Not everyone has those 2 recipes and it becomes extremely hard to get them as you progress, reason being the poll of recipes increase tremendously.

I know that I didnt see any of those 2 recipes for a REALLY long time once. So sometimes you just get none, or get only one."

[burnt ferry]

thanks 😂

[mortal ginkgo]

Ochibi has been crying out to sky and stars for a while now lol.

[leaden dome]

I assumed you were talking about ratios of machines my fault

[burnt ferry]

thanks guys lul

[mortal ginkgo]

Poor Ochibi man. 😭

[sullen gull]

Regardless, you can eventually catch em all 😏

[outer scarab]

pure iron fully upgraded makes way too much iron

[mortal ginkgo]

have mercy for ohcibi fr fr

[burnt ferry]

IT WOULD STILL MEAN THE SAME

😂

[mortal ginkgo]

I am gonna catch you if I ever get those charcoal or biocoal now at phase 2.

[mortal ginkgo]

Thats exactly the same thing my dear ultra friendly and glorious brotherman

[burnt ferry]

in fact im not sure but ima claim it

[mortal ginkgo]

Its like accepting "Trains go on rails." but not accepting "Rails are used by trains."

Ochibi is dying over here as we speak.

[sullen gull]

That confidence tho 💪 🤣

[burnt ferry]

chibi lul

never have seen it written.. pronounced a lot 😂

[mortal ginkgo]

chibi be cool but a niche thing

[versed mesa]

Yeah thats like the same Wasits showed

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I probably could have scrolled back to see what was going on before jumping in 🤣 Mah baaaad

[burnt ferry]

when i made up the name i was 17 and i wasnt good at building english words. If done properly the name should go ohcebe..... but the way i did it is more unique

[outer scarab]

I didn't do the math, and my small pure iron produces twice that can fit on a mk6 belt....

[burnt ferry]

yes

[mortal ginkgo]

your name is better than what I got my first mail address as "achygonzales".

like what was I thinking and why am I using it for 25 years

[sullen gull]

@rigid mist Wait, why the rail?

[rigid mist]

for bendy foundations

[burnt ferry]

i was afraid people could tell im a stoner.. now they j ust think ima weeb