satisfactory

[lament niche]

^^^^^

[cunning siren]

Naw, I just figured it out. Changed to fullscreen and all is well

[silk ocean]

195 makes it seem like it gonna 'splode

[lament niche]

I mean, you try running it at 195F

"Another"?

[cunning siren]

I also bumped the Nvidia shader cache to 10GB and cleared those and rebooted so maybe that was a big part of it 🤔

[silk ocean]

Not my card, a hypothetical one xD

[lament niche]

yes 95C/195F is very hot

[silk ocean]

Way too hot

[lament niche]

marv blocks everyone

9/5 +32

[cunning siren]

OH dang, the FPS is so solid I can enable some quality features

[lament niche]

you know who else is solid

MY MOM

minecraft clouds

sir, thats all skies

damn more people should watch Snutt's channel

[unkempt blade]

what this game really needs is clouds shaped like factory carts

[cunning siren]

Ahhhh, so happy with the game performance change, I think I'm done here 🤔. I guess besides shaders I did change the launch option -norhithread maybe that "did it" 🤷

[heavy anvil]

i legit noticed the diffrence one update

[cunning siren]

It seems to be. Gobbles up my GPU when it "needs it" and then "lets it go" when it does not. Not saying that's a clear cut indicator but it's not nothing 🤷

[heavy anvil]

i cant remeber which one but i was able to turn graphics to medium in my massive factory and still get 100 frames

[unkempt blade]

EA => 1.0 was definitely a noticeable improvement and it already ran well before that

[heavy anvil]

also why is the gamma so high by default i think it looks way better when its dark

turn it down and it looks wildly better

[cunning siren]

There is a lighting "mood" game config 🤷 maybe that got changed on ya?

Go dark mode

[undone kestrel]

The optimisation currently is insane compared to what we used to have. It has come such a long way

I wonder if anyone has hit a new entity limit yet

rip

what is it these days?

Yeah I remember I think it was a save he started in U6 that was just so bad. Took like 10 mins for an autosave lol

Taros save is insane to be fair

[quick verge]

No headlift, but last coal gens are struggling for water., cant figure out why - https://i.imgur.com/PuLbzWb.jpeg

[faint locust]

How can I fill in a 1/2 foundation by 1/2 foundation gap without Z fighting?

[quick verge]

Didnt have the explosives to remove the annoying mushrooms, but not sure why that should be an issue. Its all flat still, and Ive not had the issue before.

[faint locust]

#screenshots message

[placid stirrup]

Pillar hardly know er

[cunning siren]

Every game load I have to change the "Screen Percentage" setting to 50 from 75 🤔 Not a big deal for solid 60FPS everywhere

Not sure why that setting does not seem to want to "save"

[lament niche]

pillars sorry there isnt any way

[reef basin]

with mods

[iron parrot]

anyone know if the autumn sale will make satisfactory go on sale or should i just get it rn ?

[reef basin]

sales of the game are (obviously) not announced in advance

[versed mesa]

Hey guys

[iron parrot]

ah alright

[hard ivy]

put it on your wishlist and buy it when you get a notification

[versed mesa]

So ive got my Bauxite factory up and running and producing products

[faint locust]

#screenshots message

[shy mulch]

look at pipe limits and think about how much water you are sending through 1 pipe

[cunning siren]

The game seems to like to be switched to fullscreen and then back to fullscreen window too? I get a FPS bump with that for some reason 🤔 🤷

[dull flare]

mk1 pipe supports 6 coal gens

6. something

but i just put 6 on one line

[limpid cairn]

6.6667

[hard ivy]

6.(6), actually

[cunning siren]

AHhhhh, so satisfied with solid performance now. No more laggy AF hyper tube cannon rides

[limpid cairn]

1 coal gen needs 45m^3 per minute at 100% clock speed

[dull flare]

ye sounds abt right

[minor cedar]

any help with #1420890269867446363 would be appreciated

[narrow geyser]

I think the best option is 8 coal generators on single mk1. U use exactly 3 water extractors. Just have to build 2 at the ends of pipe and one in the middle

[lime ermine]

Hi

[shy mulch]

Who else has 1k hours on 1 save https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1420890040388817066/image.png?ex=68d70a78&is=68d5b8f8&hm=7bc4ccff7eaec5f7e9e7a6b7483d407df710b6fab7b23ff70025506eb75ca946&

[mystic oriole]

I had one but modified it recently.

[abstract heron]

I have over 3khr on mine

[shy mulch]

that's a lot, can I see what you've built? must be pretty awesome if you've put that much time in 😮

[abstract heron]

I am still working on mine

1.0 save

[twilit tinsel]

damn thats crazy

[abstract heron]

I had over 6khr on one

[shy mulch]

how do you spend that much time on a 1.0 save, that's like 8 hours a day, every day since 1.0 was released, do you have a job lol

[abstract heron]

Sometimes I play 12hr a day or 13hr

[abstract heron]

And yes I do have a job

[shy mulch]

so you don't sleep? lol 😒

[twilit tinsel]

did you sacrifice your sleep?

[limpid cairn]

sleep is optional

[abstract heron]

I do sleep too

If I did not my hrs will be massive

And be tired

[shy mulch]

I work and I spend average maybe 20-25 h per week, that seems plenty, you're doing more than double that. I'd love to see what you've spent that time on

[twilit tinsel]

okay im starting up my like concrete factory ❤️‍🩹

[mystic oriole]

sleep is optional, I can go a few days without it regularly. There's just more to life than Satisfactory.

[unkempt blade]

yeah like minecraft

[twilit tinsel]

yeah factorio also exists

[mystic oriole]

like life, I've got a wife and son, homeshooling him is a pain.

[abstract heron]

Minecraft live this weekend and Minecraft mods

[mystic oriole]

I also fly drones, and write.

[unkempt blade]

gotta send them off the to bauxite mines during the day so you have more time to game

[abstract heron]

I still have so much to do in my world @shy mulch

@unborn gyro

[shy mulch]

Can you share? 🙂

[mystic oriole]

That's what minecraft is for.

[abstract heron]

Not nearing pc

[twilit tinsel]

i have close to like 250 hours in this save and still havent automated heavy modular frames

fused*

[abstract heron]

I think THINK I have 3842hr in my world I have to check

[unkempt blade]

yeah but how many factory carts does it have? that's the key to impressing me

[abstract heron]

None

I do have regluar unlocked

I am phase 4

[unkempt blade]

you should use more carts, they're the best use of time

[abstract heron]

I use TRAINS

[mystic oriole]

I have this one area of my map that has like a dozen or so just runnng around doing nothing. I often think I should make a skate park and automate a few of them just having fun.

[unkempt blade]

yeah but what takes stuff from the train station to the factory?

[abstract heron]

Belts

[placid stirrup]

Peasant rail gun

[twilit tinsel]

wait you can automate factory carts doing stuff?

[mystic oriole]

all vehicles can be automated

[twilit tinsel]

wait this might be revolutionary in my words logistics

[mystic oriole]

I once did this for ficxmas 2023.

it solved the package issue for a limited area

[unkempt blade]

normally carts are like little vehicular oompa loompas but during the holiday season they're more like ficsmas elves

[cunning siren]

😭 I got excited to see a planner that allowed me to do a Solid Biofuel calculation AND it don't work for some reason... sadge

https://satisfactory-logistics.xyz

[mystic oriole]

it was cute

[rigid mist]

going fro this game to factorio and seeing 90kw/2mw is kinda crazy

[mystic oriole]

The game only realy uses mw.

[rigid mist]

yeah

[mystic oriole]

just wait until you get to the point of making 1tw in the game

[atomic notch]

Off topic but do you gotta change ur username everytime you play?

[ripe heart]

Man I’m trying to drag coal over to an iron node but the conveyors look so crappy… is there any way I can make it look decent?

[mystic oriole]

hmm. I do it manually yes.

[rigid mist]

which one

[twilit tinsel]

i think... my end goal is automate every item in the game that is like automateable

[mystic oriole]

I should update mine, it's at 1254.1 hrs.

[atomic notch]

Foundations

[ripe heart]

Like how’d I lay them out? Sky high or along the ground or something? Both the nodes are like 600m away from eachother and on different elevations

[atomic notch]

Wherever you want really. I wouldnt go up or down unless you need to

[shy mulch]

Wait, hold up, 3842h and you're at phase 4. I'm really curious what you've spent that time on, I'm hooked on this story. Do you mostly do designs and cool architecture?

[ripe heart]

Every time I have tried making multiple nodes go to the same place it ends up in spaghetti

😭

[shy mulch]

I put my hours in my name for like 3 days then realised it was annoying to update it so removed it lol

[shy mulch]

use foundations

[mystic oriole]

these days I don't game often, so it's not a pain.

[rigid mist]

i only update mine every 5 or 10 hours of playtime

[ripe heart]

I do, but every time I try it looks like something right out of the let’s game it out videos

[heavy pine]

You say that like it's a bad thing

[shy mulch]

hahah. have a scroll through #screenshots and #design-and-architecture for inspiration

[limpid cairn]

use straight mode

[ripe heart]

I always do

[limpid cairn]

then how do you end up in spaghetti?

[shy mulch]

how far apart are the nodes you're trying to connect?

[ripe heart]

600-700m

[abstract heron]

Huh

[shy mulch]

? it was a very simple and clear question, which part is confusing

[shy mulch]

just make your factory in the middle, and run foundations out from the factory to the nodes, and put your belts along that

[ripe heart]

I wish there was a way to transport all materials around the map for my modular factories easily

Too bad I dunno how to bus and use trains

[shy mulch]

there is, it's called trains

[shy mulch]

nobody knew how to do it before ever trying it for the first time, just dive in and try it, get it wrong a few times and learn as you go

[cunning siren]

Turned on the driver level Vsync vs game level and no more screen tear! ✅

[ripe heart]

I’ve placed trains down like the past 6 saves, Still confused abt them

[shy mulch]

did you know how to place a conveyor belt before you'd ever done it for the first time?

[ripe heart]

Yeah

[cunning siren]

Nvidia does not do freesync over HDMI <Shakes fist>

[shy mulch]

there isn't really that much to learn, what problems did you have that you couldn't work out?

[ripe heart]

I couldn’t figure out how to automate them

[shy mulch]

open the train menu, set a timetable, and click on autopilot and let it go

[true mulch]

Tools can calculate anything if you input resources in the input tab

what did you want to calculate?

[cunning siren]

The issue is they do not have leaves wood and shrooms in the drop down 🤷

[true mulch]

@reef basin

[unkempt blade]

literally unusable!

[atomic notch]

real

i need those leaves numbers for my starter biofuel

[cunning siren]

But but but can has 🍃 ?

[shy mulch]

is a calculator really needed for a single step with a single ingredient that you do in a constructor?

[cunning siren]

I'm to lazy to ask AI 🤷 😆

Ok... there are other options i get it

[true mulch]

I mean it should be possible

[reef basin]

you shouldn't anyway

[atomic notch]

with this logic its not neede for anything

[shy mulch]

what, specifically, are you trying to calculate?

[mint wind]

How do yall go about transporting uranium?
Im using trains but the random radiation around the joint is kind of annoying.
Do drones fly high enough to solve that issue ?

[atomic notch]

i usually just get like a bunch of ionized filters automated

[true mulch]

the solution is generally to build nuclear factories away from everything else

[shy mulch]

that's a false equivalence
I can walk 300 metres to the corner shop, I don't need a car for that
"with this logic a car isn't needed for anything"
Yes, technically I could walk 400 miles, but that's not reasonable, use a car
Use tools for complicated calculations, not for a single step with a single machine, do that in your head

[true mulch]

drones do emit radiation, but fly by fast

[atomic notch]

if you can run 400 miles an hour its just a quick jog

[mint wind]

Well its in the middle of the Black swamp and i literally got nothing else there but trains do emit radiation on ground level around the world

[true mulch]

how much uranium per minute are we speaking

[mint wind]

I thought drones might fix that issue depending on how high they fly and/or the range of radiation

[mint wind]

All of it

[true mulch]

ah that would be quite a few drones

[atomic notch]

its more of like if u need it use it

[true mulch]

I don't think radioactive trains running around will affect you too much

[mint wind]

Well i do have packaged ionized fuel i can feed them with and i dont mind how many drones. I just want to avoid having random ground radiation if u know what i mean

[true mulch]

if you have fuel to spare and don't mind potentially having 2 drone routes per node

then drones are probably the best solution for you

[mint wind]

Nah i dont mind even if i had 3 or 4 drones per node. My main question is if they fly high enough to not emit random radiation onto the ground level

[limpid cairn]

is there even a reason to not use drones?

theres only 2 normal uranium nodes

which will prob cause trouble with drones

[shy mulch]

if drones aren't getting you enough throughput, use more drones

[true mulch]

they could eat a lot of fuel and drone ports have a somewhat high power draw of 100 MW

I can't think of other disadvantages

[shy mulch]

someone using all the uranium on the map is unlikely to need to be concerned with the power draw of the drone ports

[unkempt blade]

only that factory carts exist

[true mulch]

I'm answering the question in general, not just for this specific case

[shy mulch]

fair 🙂

[mint wind]

Im currently using an ionized fuel plant for about 350gw, whats 100mw 🤣

[true mulch]

it's why the least amount of NPPs you should have is 3, because having less could result in a net loss if too much transport is used

[shy mulch]

NPP?

[true mulch]

nuclear power plants

[shy mulch]

aha

[mint wind]

All i really want to know is if drones will get rid of the random radiation of points where the train Passes by currently due to the height of the drone flightpath
If it doesnt theres no reason to, if it does ill change my transportation network quite a bit

[true mulch]

radiation is a sphere around the source

[limpid cairn]

isnt ionized fuel the worst fuel for power?

[true mulch]

you will still get irradiated, but much less, not only because of the height, but also because they carry 9 stacks instead of 32 * freight car

the train would run less frequently but be far more radioactive in comparison

[unkempt blade]

can you tell us through a parody of the classic song O.P.P. instead?

[true mulch]

I only know Mr. Boombastic

[mint wind]

May not be efficient but i just wanted to have it 🤷‍♂️

[mint wind]

Thankyou good sir. Ill just put 2 drones per node then and Transport it that way

[true mulch]

drone ports list the throughput, so you'll immediately know if it suffices or not

remember that you can have 2 drones per a pair of drone ports (each owned by the other port), if that won't suffice, add more ports to either side

[feral geyser]

Drone swarm go brrr

[ripe heart]

Holup… how much raw iron would I need per minute* to automate everything I needed in the game?

[true mulch]

unanswerable

[ripe heart]

Everything has an answer

[true mulch]

you can make 0.01/min of everything or 100/min of everything

also depends which alt recipes are used, whether you're optimizing for the lowest iron cost or other factors

[ripe heart]

fair enough I suppose. But I just would like a rough answer

Just anything that would consume iron, I’d like to make 60/min of it

[true mulch]

you can still optimize away iron from some parts based on recipe choices

[ripe heart]

I suppose so

[true mulch]

if you really do want an answer

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production probably your best bet is to punch in all items here and see what it makes

and just look at the iron consumption

you can then enable all alts and see how it changes

[ripe heart]

Right-o

[true mulch]

you may want to disable SAM conversions

[unkempt blade]

I stopped using iron in favor of SAM ore and limestone that I convert to iron

[last vortex]

Is there a height QOL / snap visual for Lifts? Something to show it's the same height as another lift nearby?

[feral geyser]

The main problem why it's unanswerable is: in what time frame?

[last vortex]

eyeballing heights is killing me

[feral geyser]

If you make 1/min of everything and are just patient, you could use very little iron/min

[true mulch]

if you don't get green lines, you can also measure height by the build cost

no exact alignment guides though sadly

[feral geyser]

If you want it all done in 30 minutes, that's gonna require a different rate.

[unkempt blade]

you can turn on debug in the console and it has coordinates that include height

[true mulch]

time to make parts is just inverse of the per-minute rate, what I said earlier

you aren't wrong but you're saying what I already said

[feral geyser]

Yes, I am restating you

[true mulch]

please don't restart me

[feral geyser]

To be clear of what he said: I should not restate him.

[unkempt blade]

yeah but if you want it all done in 20m you're going to need 50% more stuff than if you do it in 30m

[shy mulch]

Ada reserves the right to restart pioneers at will

[feral geyser]

Restate, not restart 😑

But also yes

[last vortex]

that's big brain, thanks

[true mulch]

but afaik there are 2 steps which cost the same

[feral geyser]

An actual answerable question would be: how many and of what kind of raw materials are needed to craft every project part in the game (given certain recipe chains)

[true mulch]

so you need to remember the cost and upper/lower

[ripe heart]

I’ve got my answer

[true mulch]

if you put those into SFTools at a rate to produce everything in 1 minute, it should provide an answer
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Space_Elevator#Total_number_of_parts_needed

[ripe heart]

I will max out every Mk.2 miner with power shards and take every pure iron node… that’s my answer

[feral geyser]

That is a premium solution, sir.

[ripe heart]

Just feed it into a storage container and drag out as much as I need, screw math

[unkempt blade]

sam, limestone, oil I think could do everything though you might be able to bypass oil somehow with enough alt recipes

[ripe heart]

Yk what, I’ll just drag all raw ores into a road of containers

As much as I can

[feral geyser]

For the purposes of answering it simply, I would avoid convertor loops.

[ripe heart]

But the question is… where’s the best location to access all the materials?

[feral geyser]

But that would also be a fun problem.

[feral geyser]

What biome did you start in?

[ripe heart]

Rock sands

But it doesn’t matter where I start, cuhz I can cannon my way anywhere

[feral geyser]

There is a cool spot near the waterfalls in the south east ish of that biome that has 3 pure iron nodes right next to each other, and a pure copper, pure cat, a bunch of limestone

[ripe heart]

aw.. my drive is asking me to pick between rigor motor and cast screws

[ripe heart]

Nice

[atomic notch]

thats where im builing the cube

[feral geyser]

There are a bunch of good clusters over there, and quartz deep in a cave in the center of the region

[limpid cairn]

dont take screws take motor

[feral geyser]

And nitrogen on the northwest coast

[hard ivy]

I wouldn't take either

[ripe heart]

what if I… rescan drive?

[limpid cairn]

do it

[unkempt blade]

cast screws is a great recipe

[limpid cairn]

no balls

[ripe heart]

iron pipe or bolted frames

I love iron pipes, no need coal

[limpid cairn]

take iron pipe!!!

even tho the recipe is horrible

[ripe heart]

is there iron beams aswell?

[limpid cairn]

its still somewhat good

[lime ermine]

No

[ripe heart]

Dang it

[feral geyser]

There is Aluminum beams though

And that is pretty solid

[ripe heart]

Okay guys, molded steel pipe or steel rod?

[feral geyser]

Pipe

Trust, bruv

[ripe heart]

fine concrete or steel cast plate… both suck ngl

[feral geyser]

Save it

[ripe heart]

alrighty

Im hoping for a better reinforced iron plate recipe

[true mulch]

imo, only choose recipes you immediately want to use

[feral geyser]

Stitched Plates is the one you want

[ripe heart]

Frrr

[true mulch]

otherwise, keep them in the library, unclaimed drives block 2 choices from the pool, instead of just the 1 you choose

[ripe heart]

how much RIP would I need to produce per min for the rest of my game? 🤔

[true mulch]

I have 20+ drives in the library

[true mulch]

don't futureproof

!wikisearch independency

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=independency

[ripe heart]

?

[unkempt blade]

I always pick a recipe immediately, the saving drives meta is boring

[true mulch]

check the wiki page

[feral geyser]

You should make about 10-20/min for yourself

[true mulch]

@worldly pelican no embed

[ripe heart]

Right

[true mulch]

make just enough for building and nothing else, the wiki page details why

[feral geyser]

But also, lots of things are gonna use them as a component, and it doesn't make sense to take from a central site for every process that's gonna use them.

So you make what you need for the thing your producing in that line, out of raws.

[ripe heart]

Independency.. mmm

[unkempt blade]

or.... overproduce all the things and send the extras to the sink for sweet sweet coupons

[zenith fractal]

personally I just have giga ingot factories to transport them to the places where they're needed.

[true mulch]

you can do that with the independency approach too

[zenith fractal]

the more I use trains

the happier i am

[feral geyser]

That makes sense for some things, especially caterium and aluminum

[ripe heart]

Sigh, time to automate phase 2..

[true mulch]

every factory has a smart splitter -> ISC -> depot / -> sink

[unkempt blade]

for some reason the word independency rubs me the wrong way

[true mulch]

got a better term in mind?

the strategy is the opposite of a megafactory

and we had a problem with calling it decentralization

[feral geyser]

It fits, cuz it means each factory is independent of the outputs of another factory, only on its own raw inputs

[true mulch]

because, in a way, while factories are decentralized on the map, the production of each target resource is centralized (you only make it in one place)

and I mean that, if you think you have a better name for it, I'm all ears

[feral geyser]

Decentralization isn't too bad, I do like independence better

[ripe heart]

While my phase 2 automates I’ll search for Moar slopes

Sloopies

[feral geyser]

🫡 godspeed, soldier

[ripe heart]

I’m gonna cheese early game by finding computers and getting alien power augmenters

Light work early game power

It’ll carry me till I get turbo fuel… which I’ll waste it all for my jetpack!!!

[twilit tinsel]

fuckass project has me using either 600 refineries or 300 if i overclock it

[feral geyser]

What are you doing?

[atomic notch]

copper?

[ripe heart]

imo… If you can craft more power shards, overlock. If you can’t yet… get more fineries

[twilit tinsel]

just a bit of rubber :3

and plastic

[ripe heart]

You don’t make 1k per minute as a byproduct of turbo fuel? SMH…

[cunning siren]

Are you gonna raid the crash sites or pray to RNG Jesus for computers from Doggos?

[twilit tinsel]

no... i lowk didnt know abt diluted fuel

[feral geyser]

I see you 😏 😭

[twilit tinsel]

what

[feral geyser]

Overclocking 300 refineries will use 22,500MW compared to 18,000MW for 600 regular speed ones

[twilit tinsel]

yeah i already did like a sheet thing

[feral geyser]

So if power isn't an issue, fuck it, cut em up

[twilit tinsel]

its good i have power

[feral geyser]

But that leaves you less upward leeway to adjust any errors that may occur

[twilit tinsel]

ill have like a good bit left over idk

[feral geyser]

Personally? I'd do the 600, but that's cuz i hate myself

[twilit tinsel]

actually

ill just make less i dont think i need 5000+ of each

[versed mesa]

Am having a strange issue i can't seam to get a lift and a conveyor to connect to one of the inputs on the foundery like it should connect but just dont want to and ive got 4 others connected to one of there inputs wond why this is happening

[atomic notch]

might just do pure aluminum ingots need so much silica for the other one

pure is 4200 ingots normal is 5600

[versed mesa]

No way your onto that as well meto lol

[atomic notch]

no this is my second aluminum

[versed mesa]

Damn

[atomic notch]

got mk6 belts so im redoin it and adding a few more nodes

[versed mesa]

Ill be crafting the ingots soon as I can get them connected

[zenith fractal]

I always use pure aluminium for large ingot factories

the amount of quartz needed is too much for me

[versed mesa]

Lol

[zenith fractal]

also pure aluminium with sloppy alu solution simplifies production a lot

[atomic notch]

im doin instant scrap

[zenith fractal]

that's good too

[atomic notch]

too many refineries around here

[lime ermine]

I love instant scrap with pure ingots

[outer hatch]

Finally finished ~5000 Fused Frames. Time to plop those 500ish Mk3 Miners everywhere.

[limpid cairn]

5000 fused frames as in per minute or just storage?

[shy mulch]

Is it even possible to do 5000/min?

[limpid cairn]

If there a a will there’s a way to make it possible
(It probably is possible if you dedicate every resource to crafting them)

[outer hatch]

Storage, obviously. I'm addicted, but not that addicted.

[lavish panther]

https://tenor.com/view/cookieking-cookie-cookie-king-cookiekingmog-cookie-king-mog-gif-6267308176668479974

[outer hatch]

(Also, I wouldn't be able to reach that rate without already having the MK3 in place)

[white dawn]

Max FMF with resource conversion (but without taking sloops into account) is about 746/min: https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=vmHdNiRZ1BuYLrszx3ag

I doubt sloops would get you to 5000/min. :)

[lavish panther]

i thought the resources were practically infinite

[limpid cairn]

They are infinite but finite in the production rate

[shy mulch]

They never 'run out', but they are rate limited, so you can only do so much per minute. You can do infinite if you leave it running forever

[white dawn]

For 99% of players out there they are. Not many players reach actual resource limits

(but yeah, it's infinite quantity, not infinite rate)

[lavish panther]

i mean you could still reach 5000 a minute although not infinite sustainable

[shy mulch]

You'd need to store a ton of resources first, so still net truly 5000/min

[white dawn]

And of course I'm not sure how you're going to power that 746/min with practically every resource maxed out. :D

[limpid cairn]

AGS

🤔

[shy mulch]

If you're going down that route, just edit your save and add 1 million of everything

[white dawn]

Actually that plan does have a good amount of coal available, and doesn't touch sulfur at all

Could do 10800/min compacted coal

[candid ingot]

Why can’t we js… dump water BACK into the ocean

[white dawn]

Which, amusingly, would be plenty to power that plan

So, there's someone's next project sorted. Max FMF, powered by compacted coal gens. :)

[outer hatch]

... the resource popup with the resource purity on Radio Towers doesn't pop up if you're on Controller instead of K+M. Oh, well, to questions.satisfactorygame we go.

[outer hatch]

FICSIT doesn't waste.

[limpid cairn]

Flushing does that

[zenith fractal]

why waste valuable byproduct?

if it has a pricetag we will use it

[limpid cairn]

But fluids don’t have a price…since you can’t sink them🤔

[zenith fractal]

but you can use them to make sinkable things

like wet concrete

[cunning siren]

It's getting colder out at night! That means it's time to OC the video card more! 😆

[atomic notch]

soooo many refineries

im just gonna stack em😎

[peak wasp]

how many motors per minute should I go for I'm thinking 20

[swift turret]

2

😎

[zenith pecan]

Don't melt that, the pc market is insane rn, buying a new one would cost the earth.

[hasty peak]

same energy as pour oil on self, hold pc with battery, float to part of moon with oxygen, space is cold, run game at max graphics

[static bramble]

im doing 10

[cunning siren]

What's a "thing" that y'all learned in this game where you spent HOURS "doing it wrong" and they you learned "a better way"?

For me it's "If you can use a lift for an input or output... do it". It's so much simpler to configure and reconfigure stuff with a lift vs a belt

[dense violet]

that's very much just a personal choice.

[cunning siren]

If by personal choice you mean objectively better than yes I'll agree with you 😆

[zenith fractal]

I didn't realise i could use middle mouse wheel to copy a machine until near the end of phase 3

[cunning siren]

A few days ago I learnt that if you click on the blueprints menu you can press spacebar to enable the search function, that's pretty handy

[ripe heart]

Guys, Quick wire stator or Solid steel ingot

[cunning siren]

Solid steel ingot 100% best steel recipe there is

Pure iron ingot makes it even better

[ripe heart]

When’s that one unlock?

Which tier?

[zenith fractal]

when you get oil refinement

via refinery

[ripe heart]

Right… I LOOOOVE TURBOFUELLL!!!!

[cunning siren]

T U R B O O O

[zenith fractal]

you can get pure recipes when you get refineries

[ripe heart]

I don’t even use it to power my factory!!! I SPAM IT WITH MY JETPACK!!!!

[zenith fractal]

so get those hard drives

[cunning siren]

OH, in that case use Liquid Bio Fuel instead, it's waaaaaay better

[ripe heart]

Does it send me higher?

[zenith fractal]

isn't liquid bio unautomatable?

[ripe heart]

but does it send me higher faster?

[zenith fractal]

due to the need for bio

nuggies

[cunning siren]

Yes and if you sloop the process in 3x areas you get like a bajillion items out of it

[ripe heart]

Don’t get me wrong but…. ROCKET FUELLLLLL!!!

[outer hatch]

Could someone who also plays with a controller (and/or plays K+M, but has a controller available) see if the issue https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/68d5ea1305e9db29b452ab35 happens to them as well ?

[opaque shadow]

tbh, same
liquid bio has the longest flight time of any fuel (incl. ion fuel) but rocket is just so much faster

[ripe heart]

I rather fly faster than longer fr

[atomic notch]

oh yeah controller is aids in some uis

iirc hes right u cant read the purites

i remember bein super confused and havin to fly around lol

[outer hatch]

Of course he's right, he's me.

[atomic notch]

oh

[outer hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-kenobi-hes-me-gif-23727931

[atomic notch]

wel yeah

i like the auto leaf pickup tho

[cunning siren]

If you E + TAB while moused over a leaf often the game will "glitch" and hold down the E key for auto leaf pickup untill you hit the E key again

[real shale]

Yes, I have one now

#screenshots message

Surprisingly mine didn't go through customs

I bought mine and it got to Ireland without any customs involved which was....strange I was 100% expecting customs

I want the new box set

I might get it, I really want that map and the coupons

[frozen oak]

yall js ever mega factory then cry bc its not efficent

[real shale]

Sorry, what is ... "Not efficient"?

[frozen oak]

who else got a satisfactory notebook 🔥

[real shale]

Not familiar with that concept

[frozen oak]

you scare me mr or mrs person man women

[real shale]

I achieve efficiency figures that break the laws of thermodynamics

Yeah

Or no, the new one

There's another one that released on preorder

Alongside a FICSIT cap which I REALLY want too

I do not, although if the vinyl had tier 1 in it....maybe I might get one

There's so much merch I want to get, the key chain, the hat, the new box set, all of it, I love this game and would support coffee stain anyday

As Fry would say "shut up and take my money"

I would love a FICSIT hoodie or something, or a checkit one

[steady glade]

checkit would work better for casual wear

[vital mango]

Important question. Do lizard doggos have toe beans?

[feral geyser]

I hope so

[vital mango]

I'm making a design for a sticker/keychain and I'm gonna add beans to the lizard doggo

[feral geyser]

Send it in #fan-art when you're done

Oh yeah, can't send text in screenshot channel

[vital mango]

Just canonically in general I guess

[vital mango]

Lmao I realized. I was taking about the paw pads on like a cat or a dog

[feral geyser]

Hmmmm, I guess we gotta take them out to the sand and look at their paw prints. I know we leave bootprints in the sand, so i assume they leave prints

[vital mango]

Ahh screw canon, I'm giving them toe beans

sf pen? What's that?

[cunning glade]

Is there another resource I should have near aluminum if I'm making a factory for it

Or just bauxite

[feral geyser]

Quartz for silica

[shrewd palm]

big 2 are oil and water

depending on the recipe you'll want quartz or oil tho

[cunning glade]

Oil for what?

I see so alt recipes will impact it

[shrewd palm]

pet coke for an alt recipe

[cunning glade]

I see

[shrewd palm]

ngl with aluminum its probably best to go out looking for alt recipes

[feral geyser]

My favorite recipe is the Instant Scrap blender one

[shrewd palm]

the default ones are a bit of a hassle to deal with if its your first time around

[feral geyser]

Sulfuric isn't too hard to make

And i get silica from the distillation process, cuz I also needed crystals for other parts of the factory (plus high throughput rate)

[cunning glade]

Why pet coke and not coal?

Looking at the recipe now

[shrewd palm]

recipes need coke and not coal

the best ones do at least

[cunning glade]

Ah the scrap one just needs coal

[shrewd palm]

buying it from a certified coke breeder or something

gotta make sure its from colmubia so that you know its authentic

[feral geyser]

CO-LOM-BIA

You're gonna upset to Colombians by calling it "Columbia"

[shrewd palm]

#math-and-meta message typical 1:1 bauxite to ingots would look something like this i think

you can go higher than that but then it gets a little more complicated and you have to deal with quartz

[zenith fractal]

mixing a bit of white into your silvery aluminium?

[feral geyser]

Instant Scrap is
A) better conversion ratio (bauxite: scraps)
B) much less water-hungry (even considering sulfuric requirements)
C) uses the same things anyway
Downsides:

1. introduces sulfur, which wasn't needed before (big whoop)
2. doesn't output any silica to use for ingots (hardly relevant)

It's not though

Pay the dang sulfur tax and you get a bunch more

[shrewd palm]

and also with aluminum it'll probably be most efficient to make a bunch of ingots and casings/sheets and then move them around as needed, or just make a bunch of ingots and then move them around as needed

one more thing you will need is copper

[feral geyser]

Which is also good to leach for the high output rates needed for aluminum

[shrewd palm]

i am afraid to use sulphur because i tell myself i'll need a bunch later but then later never comes and i dont use sulphur for anything

[feral geyser]

I know pure is "better" that leached

[shrewd palm]

the sulphur recipes are nuts but like

[zenith fractal]

that's me but with quartz

[shrewd palm]

i might need that sulphur for something that cant be fixed by building more refineries

[feral geyser]

But the difference is 18:44 for leached vs 18:45 for pure, but the output rate is waaaay higher with leached.

[shrewd palm]

unlike sulphur there is a ton of quartz

[zenith fractal]

yeah I also use sloppy alu and pure alu with default or coke recipe

[shrewd palm]

although you do need a decent amount for phase 5 stuff

[zenith fractal]

I need that sulphuric acid

[shrewd palm]

but not nearly as much as you will need coal and oil

[zenith fractal]

true

[feral geyser]

So tl,dr; Sulfuric factory for Instant Scrap + Leached Copper, Nitric factory for Quartz Purification/Silica Distillation

[zenith fractal]

you ever, eat the sulfur?

[feral geyser]

It is crunchy

[zenith fractal]

taste like eggs, mostly in water.

[exotic bison]

hey, someone speak spanish?

[surreal meteor]

Fresh pie and sauce does sound pretty nice (also please share the rest of the opening sequence) #screenshots message

[feral geyser]

Crunchy and eggy is oral dissonance

[shrewd palm]

yeah that does not sound pleasant

only thing that should be crunchy in eggs is if you somehow take a bite out of your fork or something

[feral geyser]

If i feel a crunch in my egg, I'm throwing hands

[exotic bison]

I know, but this game uses words that I don't know the translation for haha

[shrewd palm]

i think a lot of translations got nuked with 1.0

[exotic bison]

Yes, there is, but if I play with people who speak English it is difficult to agree

[feral geyser]

Send some screenshots in a #1038092680493801533 thread, and we can help translate

That way we can see the items, and keep this chat free

[real shale]

Uh, on a global context it's the exact opposite

[feral geyser]

English is easier than some languages, and harder than others (I'm looking at you, tonal languages)

[real shale]

I am native English and I can see why English can be one of the hardest ones to learn

So many niche rules for so many little things that it'll drive anyone crazy

[exotic bison]

It is not one of the most difficult, it is relatively simple

[feral geyser]

English is a handful of different languages wearing a trench coat pretending to be just one.

[real shale]

It is, it's just muddled by the fact that it's easier for those who come from a country whose language shares similarities to learn

For the significantly different languages culturally, it is insanely difficult to learn

For native English speakers it the equivalent of trying to learn mandarin for some people

[feral geyser]

But that's true for us too, like, learning Arabic would be hard for me, cuz it's a whole different language family.

[real shale]

Yeah exactly

[shrewd palm]

english is so god awful

why do we have 3 different theres

and 2 yours

[feral geyser]

Cuz they have different purposes?

[shrewd palm]

true but like

english is a mix of like at least 3 different languages istg

[real shale]

Because it is lmao

[feral geyser]

Yes

[shrewd palm]

although once you learn another latin based language they all get pretty easy which is nice

[feral geyser]

You mean "spell Czeching" 😏

[shrewd palm]

😭

[real shale]

Czech chess players winning a game and saying "Czechmate"

[feral geyser]

We better be careful, bad puns result in a lifetime ban.

[real shale]

You did it first!

SACRIFICE!

[latent meadow]

i feel like laying track is the toughest part of this game lol

[real shale]

Wait till you get to train signalling

[latent meadow]

i already have

🙂

[real shale]

"Signal loops into itself" where

[feral geyser]

Lmao drone swarm go brr

[latent meadow]

alreayd ran into that

[real shale]

me on my way to stuff someone's drones full of nuclear fuel rods so they can never go near them without getting a lethal dose of radiation sickness

[feral geyser]

Lmao like I don't have filters automated 😏

[wide cradle]

yo why is this game fun btw

[real shale]

Check the drone that's transporting them....

[feral geyser]

Fun? Get back to work, slave 😒

[wide cradle]

when yall think next upd gonna be?

[rustic hare]

idk, playing it just feels like I'm on crack, and coming back from the game I feel withdrawal with how overwhelming and busy the real world is

[feral geyser]

Depot

[latent meadow]

i feel like i need to do the spirtal idea for climbing this mountain with my train

[feral geyser]

The little engine that could

[latent meadow]

yep

[wide cradle]

fr

[shrewd palm]

if factorio is crack this is crystal meth

[whole drift]

How do I put 4 constructors on 1 splitter?

[feral geyser]

Split to two, then to four

[shrewd palm]

if you dont want to manifold

[feral geyser]

Or manifold it

[rustic hare]

but life dragged me away from the crack #screenshots message

[whole drift]

I don’t remember how to manifold

[shrewd palm]

just place a splitter at each machine and then connect them all together

you're basically just making an overflow system so that when one machine gets full the resources go to the machine down the line

[real shale]

Petition to add fault conditions to this game so I have a reason for actually taking trees near my power lines down, I both love and hate being an electrical engineer when it comes to that

[whole drift]

Thank you

[shrewd palm]

no problem

you can also manifold the same way with pipes although it can get more complicated depending on how merciful the game is feeling

[real shale]

Actually I'm realising now this is a terrible idea because the power lines would all have phase to phase faults

[whole drift]

I’m not doing the pipes 🥲

I’ll figure it out

[feral geyser]

Pipes aren't so bad, just avoid vertical junctions and dead ends.

[real shale]

And just fill them up before you start the machines that use them

[feral geyser]

Unless you are looping recycled water

[shrewd palm]

if those dont fix any pipe problems you are probably going to spend the next 2-72 hours troubleshooting

[real shale]

There's a reason there's a whole ass guide to how pipes and fluid works in this game

[shrewd palm]

and if they still arent working either just give up or tear it all down and rebuild it properly

[feral geyser]

And it is whole ass, cuz they did not half-ass, it is thorough

[shrewd palm]

i think they hinted at a fluid rework recently didnt they?

[real shale]

Proper fluid dynamics????

Will I have to whip out Bernoulli's equation now?

[feral geyser]

Navier-Stokes simulator confirmed

[shrewd palm]

iirc it was "realistic fluid dynamics" or something

i have no idea where the hint was tho, probably one of their recent videos/trailers

[real shale]

Oh they are going to have to improve the functionality of the calculator

[feral geyser]

I haven't tried, can it even do sqrt()?

[real shale]

Yes

[feral geyser]

Okay, nice

Factorial?

[real shale]

That's about the height of what it can do

[feral geyser]

Does it know e?

[real shale]

It can't do factorial no

No

It doesn't know constants at all

[feral geyser]

Dang

[shrewd palm]

we should teach it pi so that it can do circles

[vital mango]

Finally finished my lizard doggo sticker

[feral geyser]

I guess we hardly need those as it stands

[shrewd palm]

how that would be useful i have no idea but it would be cool

[real shale]

This game is the only game that has made me use Pythagoras theorem unironically

[sharp sentinel]

#screenshots message

Doesn't the quartz cave system have an entrance from where I am somewhere? I need that one unused node.

[real shale]

Take that math doubters, "when will you ever need to use this in the real world" here. Here I do.

[feral geyser]

Not even Minecraft?

[real shale]

Where do you use it in Minecraft

[shrewd palm]

biggest entrances are on either side of the desert iirc

[feral geyser]

Good point

I guess measuring long distances

[shrewd palm]

math doubters when you end up in a niche engineering subject or something

[real shale]

I am in an engineering degree and there are a LOT of doubters

[feral geyser]

To the northwest near the four coal nodes, or to the east near the bay and the other four coal nodes

[real shale]

"I'll never use this in the real world" is a very frequent sentence actually

[shrewd palm]

isnt the whole job of an engineer to use it in the real world?

[real shale]

No

The job is to look up the datasheet and find the figures there LOL

[shrewd palm]

although in defense of math doubt 2 engineers (one of them a rocket scientist) have told me that i will never need to use trig identities

and for that i am so glad

[real shale]

I work in power so trig identities kinda come in handy

[shrewd palm]

just for finding out stuff for wires or something?

i am too tired rn

[feral geyser]

Phase and other electrical shit

[real shale]

Wires is a simple datasheet/standard job, it's mainly for dealing with the voltage and current quantities

[shrewd palm]

ahh

my experience with math as of now is 4 highschool classes + calc and i dont think i was ever taught the applications of most things

[real shale]

Although in fairness, most of the trig can be completely eliminated by the fact that you can just work in the imaginary domain since everything is assumed fixed frequency in steady state

[shrewd palm]

if i was i certainly dont remember

[real shale]

we don't talk about the transient state

😧

[feral geyser]

So crazy how imaginary/complex numbers end up being the most technically useful constructs from high school algebra, and we basically don't cover them hardly at all.

[real shale]

I remember my first year of university math class and no one knowing complex numbers nor having encountered them before except me

[feral geyser]

That is wild

[real shale]

Which is funny because I was the ONLY one without any prior electrical engineering experience

Walked into a degree and had zero prior experience in that field, what a journey I've had lmao

[feral geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-glasses-sparkle-gif-10669548

You:

[real shale]

Polite way of nerd emoting the nerdmojer

But yeah, I've uh, definitely taken a complete 180 in career path prior before going to uni

[shrewd palm]

i really like teachers that teach you stuff they arent supposed to but will probably be useful

[real shale]

You know it's funny, I've had people say the zipline in this game is unrealistic but it's actually funny knowing that's it completely, entirely feasible in reality

So long as you do not touch the tower itself

[feral geyser]

It'd still require a good chunk of upper body strength

[shrewd palm]

this is why i go to the gym

so that i can whimsically zipline across the countryside along the power lines

[real shale]

Oh yeah no it would but like, that is entirely doable, you wouldn't be electrocuted so long as you end up at the same potential as the line

In fact, people go near them in helicopters to change spacers and stuff while they are live, it's crazy

[versed mesa]

👋

[latent meadow]

when the wildlife gets smart and usees the railroad your building to get to you

😐

[cunning glade]

okay so theres an alt that takes coke i assume

[shrewd palm]

yes

electrode aluminum scrap

[cunning glade]

i see

i havent done my hard drive sweep yet

plan too soon

[shrewd palm]

better get around to it, phase 4 is when things start to ramp up a little bit

[cunning glade]

was just trying too figure out where i plan too make it

i think rocky desert border

[shrewd palm]

near a lake would be best i think

[cunning glade]

will i need buax for anything else

[thorny pagoda]

Question I have a long train setup with multiple train stations that are supposed to load freight at each with different ores. Train is only loading from the first station then stopping at the other ones but not loading up. It won’t fill up the other train cars that are empty. What’s wrong?

[versed mesa]

Bauxite

[cunning glade]

like i could potentially make one factory use all of whats on the map

[shrewd palm]

theres a lake inside the red forest and another (larger) lake to the east of the forest

[shrewd palm]

if you're going big like that you probably want to build in the latter location

theres enough room and resources to do whatever you want with aluminum

[feral geyser]

Bauxite will not be used for anything else unless you wanna do Converter loops in the end game.

[shrewd palm]

although the game is yours to play however you want

[shrewd palm]

and i think the only recipes are just uranium or something right

[feral geyser]

Idek, I don't use them like that

[cunning glade]

#screenshots thats where

huh

[feral geyser]

Ah yeah, bring it down to that oil at the beaches and that's 👌

[real shale]

a little bit?

[feral geyser]

Again, if you're gonna do electrode

I still say Instant Scrap is better

[shrewd palm]

#screenshots message this is the spot that im talking about
lots of room, relatively nearby oil, quartz and copper are close, caterium if you want to do stuff like that (oscillators or something idk), pretty central so trains and drones take less time to move around

[cunning siren]

Woh! I found the motherload for paleberrys area 🤔

[shrewd palm]

the arch in the grassy fields?

[cunning glade]

i will see what i do for it

[shrewd palm]

or is there somewhere i dont know about

[cunning glade]

first plan is getting drones

i wannna get them and then just drone hmf and computers around

training them is a pain in the ass

[shrewd palm]

a factorty built into the cliffs with a bunch of train spirals going up/down the cliffs on the west coast would probably be pretty cool

[real shale]

ugh that reminds me I need to automate radio control units for those things

[cunning glade]

after drones idk

i either wanna tear down the starting factory

or just make it more efficient

[shrewd palm]

mk5 belts is a better time than any until you get to mk6 to rebuild everything

[real shale]

Usually there is no or there, usually you just end up tearing it down and then making it more efficient

[cunning glade]

but making it new is so much work

[shrewd palm]

although dealing with full 780s is kind of weird so it'll be nicer to try and keep things around 600/min with them i think

[cunning glade]

it already is efficient its just its uses 4 nodes when i can make it into 1

[feral geyser]

Then just redo the input lines

[cunning glade]

the factory itself isnt bad imo

[feral geyser]

You don't need to rebuild everything

[cunning glade]

need too clean it up mostly

gonna get drones and make everything looks nice along with aluminum then i shall progress

[shrewd palm]

angel and devil on each shoulder ahh sentence

[real shale]

LOL

[cunning glade]

so annoying lol

[feral geyser]

I mean, you might need to rebuild some

[real shale]

my brain always goes to "past me was TERRIBLE building this, TEAR IT ALL DOWN AND BUILD IT AGAIN"

[cunning glade]

its possible we will see

[cunning glade]

see i build so future me is happy not current

[white dawn]

You're legally required to rebuild exactly half of it

[shrewd palm]

yeah but why only do half

if half of your factory was mk6 belts and the other half mk4s that wouldnt be very nice

that would drive me insane

[real shale]

I try that too, and then realise it's a Sisyphean feat because future me will see the engineering flaws of my design and will rip it all apart and rebuild it

[feral geyser]

I always do belts at whatever speed is need for the machines

[white dawn]

Hey, I don't write the laws!

[real shale]

Which reminds me I need to tear down a train station and rebuild it

[feral geyser]

So my factories are all mixed belts

[white dawn]

Satisfactory police gonna getcha.

[shrewd palm]

i try to use all of the same belt mostly for aesthetics

although i do wish they made mk6 belts look better

[real shale]

At the moment one of my train stations has the incoming and outgoing line crossing over each other and it's hurting my brain because of how I did the orientation of the train station railways originally

[shrewd palm]

basically just mk1 belts except the middle is transparent

[feral geyser]

Let em come, I ain't going nowhere

[vestal hill]

@past nest #screenshots message

are those smart splitters being used as a crossroads?

[cunning siren]

One can double bind a mouse key to paste settings and reload and only paste works? Uhhh... wut?

[shrewd palm]

the factory takes priority over the wildlife

[true swallow]

shouldnt I be able to restart after power failure if I have a bunch of power storage units? Breaker flips right away while batteries are full

[shrewd palm]

they basically just hold on to power so that you have an emergency supply to run while you sort out the problem

if you're underproducing batteries will help out until they run out of juice

[true swallow]

Right, but do they have a max discharge rate? They are all full.. 4600 Mwh. But breaker flips right away

[real shale]

Their discharge rate is unlimited iirc

[shrewd palm]

i dont think they do, ive never really used them

[real shale]

Charge rate is limited

[shrewd palm]

they should just empty at a rate of whatever your consumption is

[cunning siren]

I know batteries have a limited charge rate do they have a limited discharge rate? 🤔

[real shale]

No, it's unlimited

[cunning siren]

IDK, never tested it

[true swallow]

Must be something else wrong here then. Thanks!

[real shale]

I actually use batteries for an alternative usage that's kinda nice

Being able to get the max capacity out of geothermal without having to worry about accidentally overdrawing is nice

although seeing my capacity graph have a sinusoidal shape awakens the electrical engineer in me

[cunning siren]

With enough practice power is super easy and one can be very lazy about it. I'm living proof 😆

[real shale]

I really want to try out the refined power mod when I'm eventually done with my vanilla playthrough, looks like a whole lot of fun and definitely would entertain me

[cunning siren]

I have ~1k hours and have yet to play a mod

Played a lot a year ago though so kind of rusty

[latent meadow]

my first attemp at a train spiral #screenshots

[desert bridge]

so how does one stack buildings together in blueprints?

or is that a mod

[feral geyser]

Nudge vertical? Build floors?

[dull flare]

yeah

[desert bridge]

i guess i shoulda worded that better like, compacted where buildings are inside each other, ex- like 9 refineries all mashed up

[wintry carbon]

why there is no chat here?

[vestal hill]

You’re in it

@minor sierra #screenshots message looks sick ty for all the help

[wintry carbon]

thought it would be more active 🤣

[vestal hill]

Americans are all asleep or going to bed and Europeans are either asleep or getting ready for school/work

Asia is at work/school

[wintry carbon]

im european. going to work, but still active on discord 😁

[vestal hill]

Fair, most people aren’t bothered

[feral geyser]

Glitches, probably

Or disabling building clearances (which is a cheat)

[wintry carbon]

whats a good way to setup the first automations in game? just started the game. and already tryed 3 different approaches 🤣

[vestal hill]

If you ping me in maybe 8 hours I’d be happy to help

Or just shoot me a DM

[feral geyser]

Like, JUST started, or have set up a few small things?

[vestal hill]

I’m busy now tho, won’t be on here anymore for a few hrs, o/

[dense violet]

Like most things in the game there’s no single best all purpose way

Figure out how you like it in different situations 🙂

[cunning siren]

I'm procrastinating on a new playthrough currently. Hunting for treasure is so easy with all the gear

[feral geyser]

Honestly, until you get logistics in the first tier, just find impure veins. You can't split anyway, so there's no point in going straight for a pure.

4 impures = 1 pure, except you can use the whole thing immediately without splitters.

But also, logistics should be the first milestone you complete anyway.

Once you get Mk2 belts and Part Assembly, head for a pure vein and set up your first assembled parts (RIPs, MFs, rotors, etc.)

Research AI Limiters/Smart Splitters (in Caterium Tree in MAM) as quickly as you can so that you can control overflows wherever you need to.

[feral geyser]

I hope any of these tips help, idk what stage you're at

[wintry carbon]

thanks, its great advice.

[dense violet]

purity of veins is really not a big impact early on as you can unlock machine 'clocking' very easily, and over clock yoru miners to produce more.
for the majority of the game your miners will be bottlenecked by your belt speed

[feral geyser]

Actually read what I wrote

Instead of nay-saying

#screenshots message
@clever merlin reminds me of... something.

[latent meadow]

it was my first real attempt at a spiral

wat you think

[feral geyser]

Wait, two Horyos??

[latent meadow]

i found the 3 foundation rule help so much in building it tbh

[feral geyser]

Did I tag the right one?

[latent meadow]

there both me

[feral geyser]

Ah okay

[latent meadow]

yes it ok

i have 2 pc so i use diffent account on both

but i keep the name the same so people know it the same one

[feral geyser]

I like it, but my reactions give it away 😏

[latent meadow]

lol

[cunning siren]

If crouched you don't take any hog projectile dmg? Maybe just a bug

[outer scarab]

I did something where I crouched and the critters stopped paying attention to me

[feral geyser]

Hatchers do that, they won't hatch wasps if you crouch

[rigid glen]

Hatchers will ignore you if crouched

[feral geyser]

Jinx

Another Dr Pepper

[rigid glen]

lol

Only Zero Sugar, but sure

[real shale]

You know what's odd, they don't even hatch when you shoot them while crotched

[feral geyser]

That's correct

[real shale]

Zero survival instinct

[rigid glen]

They will with exlosive rebar, but not regular rebar

[real shale]

Never tried explosive rebar, only ever shot it with the rifle

[rigid glen]

Explosive rebar is my best friend

[feral geyser]

What i wanna know is, why the wiki page for Creatures doesn't list their hit points.

[real shale]

But I find it so strange that you can crouch with a long range weapon and it doesn't hatch but the second you let go it's like "oh it's YOU"

I swear the hatcher is like Dr doofenschmirtz

[feral geyser]

T-Rex vision

[real shale]

"A pioneer?"

"HUH PERRY THE PIONEER????"

[cunning siren]

Whelp, I've procrastinated long enough. Time for a new run

[rigid glen]

Starting over?

[cunning siren]

It's what I do

[rigid glen]

Me too 🙂 Where are you starting this time?>

[cunning siren]

IDK 🤔

[boreal musk]

no, doesnt matter what type of rebar, as long as you crouch it won't hatch

i know bcs i always use ex rebar

[rigid glen]

Then why did I have to switch or kept getting attacked. It may have changed, but it was sure like that not too long ago

opening now to test lol

[cunning siren]

I use crouch with a rifle and hatchers don't pop 🤷

[rigid glen]

i havent made a rifle in my last two plays

[cunning siren]

Pretty good weapon at a distance

Better up close with turbo ammo

[rigid glen]

turbo ammo?

[cunning siren]

Ye

It's got turbo in the name, you know it's good

[rigid glen]

I have never enjoyed the experience

rebar feels easier

[real shale]

Rocket fuel ammo when

[cunning siren]

If you want easy, build this panic room ---> #screenshots message It's not 100% bullet proof AND it is 100% melee proof

Can shoot out of it too

I may make it elevated 🤔

[latent meadow]

wonder if there any chance they put in a way to void liuqids

[cunning siren]

Well, there is for water

[latent meadow]

i have nitrogen

[cunning siren]

bottle and sink 🤷

[latent meadow]

not a bad idea

[cunning siren]

What recipe has nitro as a byproduct?

[latent meadow]

doest it used as a main ingreent

[cunning siren]

Ok, confused why you want to sink it

[latent meadow]

train is ouputitng it

i was gonna say i dont want to just keep adding it to tanks

or adding tanks for it and i was gonna use the train for mutiple liquid

or was gonna try but i guess i wont be

train station i should say

[cunning siren]

I'm not a train person so IDK, most folk say stuff like, if problem make another staiton and another train 🤷

[latent meadow]

doest help if the station has the liquid but i dont feel like makng another station just for nitrogen tbh

[feral geyser]

There, I fixed that issue

!wikisearch creatures

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=creatures

[cunning siren]

Stingers are cats ❤️

I want to hug them

[feral geyser]

They are pretty cute

[cunning siren]

They DO want to hug me 😆

[rigid glen]

Ok, I'll take it back, expl rebar do work, but less effectively than normal. The regular rebar kills small hatchers in 2 and large in 4, expl rebar took 3-4 hits for a small, which makes sense, their shells can take pressure but not puncture dmg

[cunning siren]

Want turbo homing ammo combo 🤔

[feral geyser]

i'm a bit confused, because i know it takes 4 shots from the rifle to kill a regular hatcher, and the rifle does 5 dmg per shot, so i thought they had 20 HP, which wouldbe consistent with 2 rebar shots (15 dmg each), but the wiki says 10 in one place and 15 in another

and you are saying they have a resistance to explosion damage?

[rigid glen]

That's my guess, it's hard to nobelisk them as well

but I've been using regular rebar for a couple years now, I'm confident it's 2 and 4

[feral geyser]

interesting. can you get some more data for me on exactly how many direct explosive rebar shots they can take?

really, 4?

[rigid glen]

4 for the large ones

and this is all from the crouch

[rigid glen]

Not tonight, but maybe

[feral geyser]

if it take two explosive rebar shots to kill a small hatcher, and assuming they do have 20 HP, that would mean they are 80% resistant to explosion dmg

[rigid glen]

no, it takes 4 explosive, 2 regular

that's why I switch when I see them

[feral geyser]

that's even worse, then they are 90% resistant

[rigid glen]

easier to kill with regular

or basher, 3-4 hits

but I never get that close

i hate hatchers

[feral geyser]

that's wild

i just throw gas nobs at them and disable the wasps

[rigid glen]

I'm not sure I've ever made those,

crap, it's bed time, i'm old af

night

[versed light]

so i see satisfactory is coming to console so when is the pc patch for full controller support?

[lavish panther]

never.

[versed light]

wouldn't be surprised

[upbeat lintel]

it's already playable on PC on controller

[white dawn]

That came with v1.1 on PC; been out for awhile

[versed light]

ah really why the steam page say partial controller support?

[upbeat lintel]

no idea... it seems fully playable to me

from actually using a controller

[white dawn]

Dunno, maybe a holdover from pre-1.1 which has yet to be updated?

[versed light]

ok

[cunning siren]

Wipes out 6 creatures to get to drop pod... didn't upload heat sinks

[feral geyser]

big oof

didnt find any around?

[boreal musk]

can find heat sinks easily in swamp's crash sites

[cunning siren]

Oh yea

[boreal musk]

or just hand craft it, it only took alu sheets and copper iirc

[feral geyser]

also, if you have the mats uploaded, you might be able to handcraft a few

jinx

[cunning siren]

Panic room saves my Bacon again!

[past nest]

Yup XD thought I was a genius when I placed those

Only conected to one belt, but it makes it look like a crossroad

[cunning glade]

Have a question is uranium only used for fuel?

[abstract trail]

They are also used for nuclear warfare

[cunning glade]

Cuz I'm thinking put it all in one place and use it for fuel

Ig I'll just wait

Best way too find out without spoiling it for myself

[vocal wolf]

they make for delicious fries also

[feral geyser]

the Top of the World spire in the rocky desert is a decent space, it has everything you need in the surrounding area

[cunning glade]

We will see what I do

Thinking so far ahead

I still have 20gw before I run out of power

The plan is hard drives

46 out of 118

What's the best stuff for the sink

[feral geyser]

any and everything

sink all your overflows from all your factories

[cunning glade]

Ik but like it still slow I'm only at 140k parts a min

[feral geyser]

DNA capsules are nice, cuz their points are separate

[cunning glade]

True

Smart cookie I have 0

Okay hard drives liquid biofuel too

And commit genocide

On my too do list

Very excited for mid too late game ig

Frick I wanted too play deadlock

I forgot well this will have too wait cuz otherwise I will only play satisfactory tonight

Cuz now I don't have too stop playing till I get phase 4 done ig

Yeah phase 4 and all that stuff doesn't look fun

[boreal musk]

which mean youre not sinking enough advanced item

that number can be easily surpassed with a couple of hmf/min

even a small alu plant by sinking the sheets and casing will get you around 300k/min

[cunning glade]

I see I'll look into adding more sinks in spots that are backing up

Currently have some hmf and computers being sinkes

[cunning siren]

Do 🍃 take up less space than the converted biomass it's created out of? 😆

[boreal musk]

500 leaves (1 stack) = 250 biomass (1.25 stack)

[dense violet]

but also convert the biomass to solid biomass after

each step increases burn time

[feral geyser]

= 125 Solid Biofuel (5/8 stack)

[cursive crane]

Then convert it to liquid biofuel.

[cunning glade]

im doing both

woods and leaves cuz im gonna get both

It's just gonna be for jetpack fuel

[agile knoll]

I didnt know they allowed biomass gens to have a conveyor input

[boreal musk]

500 leaves = 500 biomass = 500 solid (slooped)

[feral geyser]

sloop all the biomass and solid biofuel and liquid biofuel, and you can get a ton of it super fast

[agile knoll]

God early game is so much less manually

[feral geyser]

three steps of slooping = 8x the fuel

[cunning siren]

Wood is pretty OP as far as conversion into biomass 🤔 🍃 are like trash vs. wood. Wood is like brown gold

[boreal musk]

its added in 1.0, a pretty good qol

[feral geyser]

mycelia also

[boreal musk]

if you talk about conversion, alien remains = biomass

[cunning siren]

🤔 ^

But DNA capsules

[boreal musk]

i dont have use of dna capsules when im done getting everything from shop

they're only useful in early game for me

[cunning siren]

Wiki seems to suggest that the HUB biomass burners are more efficient? IDK

[feral geyser]

but how am i supposed to get 7 Golden Nut statues? just through sinking factories?

[dense violet]

they burn at different rates but produce less power

[boreal musk]

50-100mil/min points from sinking bwd in question :

[shy mulch]

they are exactly the same efficiency

[cunning siren]

Wiki lies!

[shy mulch]

sinking items and dna is the only way to get points

[boreal musk]

6.666/min biomass for 20MW and 10/min for 30MW is the same thing

[shy mulch]

I haven't looked recently, but I think it's more likely you just misunderstood it

[feral geyser]

i know, but DNA points are easier

[shy mulch]

at low scale yes, but if you want a lot of coupons (such as the 7 golden nut statues you mentioned) it will be quicker to automate some endgame production than kill that many enemies

[boreal musk]

iirc its either biochemical or ai expansion server that has high value sink point while being cheap to produce

[feral geyser]

i was mostly joking, i do wanna get a second one, but i dont need 7

[shy mulch]

ballistic warp drives are the best