satisfactory

[sullen gull]

I would totally look into making one all setup in a bpd if you aren't already.

[rigid mist]

i did

[spark sky]

Yes, and I've also taken that into account, partially with the biomass burners, but also am incorporating into the build of the biomass power plant (since there is room in the build) some energy storage.

[rigid mist]

4 in one max size

[sullen gull]

Cool

[spark sky]

I've already got a biomass PP built, but I'm trying to make a more compact design that can produce more power.

And I decided to use the biomass burners on the HUB only for powering the manufacture of solid biofuel (that power grid will be isolated from the rest).

[rigid mist]

#screenshots message all 10 connection points actually auto-connect

nvm 2 don't but that's still way better than i though

[spark sky]

With the biomass I already have, I don't think I should have to collect much more than accidentally happens while exploring, unless I come across a critter that wants to see me dead.

[rigid mist]

#screenshots message this is half

[limpid cairn]

Guys, I’m going nuclear, wish me luck that I don’t create nuclear pasta by accident

[rigid mist]

gl

[hard ivy]

Might even have to make some on purpose if you're doing Ficsonium

[limpid cairn]

[rigid mist]

is there lore behind the giant arches that look like ribs everywhere

[limpid cairn]

Aliens liked ribs, that’s the lore I guess

[tame comet]

Help. I just noticed the gap under the elevator and I think I may not be able to recover.

[rigid mist]

who else remembers when clipping didn't exist

[tame comet]

Clipping is strictly restricted to maintenance floors.

[sullen gull]

Only 'acceptable' clipping is with lifts going into machines and splitters/mergers 😏

Well, and with building materials to achieve aesthetics of course ...

[cunning glade]

How many hard drives in the game?

[versed cosmos]

like 100

[cunning glade]

And how many alt

[versed cosmos]

enough to get every alt

[cunning glade]

Oh there is?

I thought there wasn't so that means 113 drives

U can turn autosave off this is good too know may just have too do that

[sullen gull]

There are 118 drives on the map.

[cunning glade]

That makes sense

Cuz there's ones that give inv

[sullen gull]

The different things come up as a "lottery". No specific drive gives a specific alt/bonus

This is why it's said to keep the ones you don't want in the list. That way they don't come up the next scan.

[cunning glade]

Uhh

I just found a drop pod with 972 frames in it

[dense violet]

there's essentially no way for you to lock yourself out of content in the game.

[cunning glade]

I didn't take them don't need them

But weird

Why so many

[dense violet]

I guess unless you toss a bunch of sloops , spheres, and hard drives into hte void

[dense violet]

it'd be a bug

[cunning glade]

Makes sense

[sullen gull]

972 frames IN it? or around it?

Or, can you place items into a drop pod after taking the drive? would be a fun prank when playing with others on a server 😏

[cunning glade]

In it

[dense violet]

either that or you mislooked. NEver heard of a glitch like that. shouldn't be nearly that amount of stuff near a crash

[sullen gull]

Odd

[cunning glade]

Same thing with this second one wtf

[sullen gull]

screenshot?

[cunning glade]

#screenshots

With phone cuz easier and if I tab out my game has a chance too freeze

[sullen gull]

Oh

No,

That is saying to need x amount of copper sheets to open the pod and you have 672 on you

[cunning glade]

Oh

Fair enough

[glad drum]

Why my game crash if I try to access a container (anything containing an item) too soon after hitting the Respawn button 🙁

[cunning glade]

That's my bad

[sullen gull]

Fyi, if you weren't aware, you can also dismantle the pods after you remove the drive. Also the wreckage around it.

[cunning glade]

Ye I'm just running around grabbing them don't need mats I want alt recipes

When I expand more if I find them I'll remove them

I care for hard drives nothing else rn

[sullen gull]

At the very least, it may be a good idea to dismantle the pod, as an indicator that you've collected it already.

Then just trash/sink the materials you get

[cunning glade]

I'm legit just running and grabbing the hard drives leaving the mats too

Inv is almost full

I mean if I see nice stuff that's high phase I'll take it

But if I have it automated why grab it

Slows me down

[sullen gull]

I get that. But, there is no indication that a wreck has been looted. Outside of some placing a power pole or something. Or dismantling the crate now.

Well, and I guess outside of the scanner maybe not picking it up (never tried that one myself)

[cunning glade]

Ye scanner doesn't pick it up

I'm just b hopping with blade runners till I get a signal

[sullen gull]

Wish you could attach maybe a larger range scanner to the Explorer or something.

[cunning glade]

Real

[sullen gull]

@cunning glade If time was of a concern, you could also use SCIM to point out where all the drives are as well. 😏

[glad drum]

I'm so sad. My Satisfactory just crashed 3 times. 🙁

[sullen gull]

But, imo that takes the fun out of exploration :P. Overall, it is a pretty intricate world that one may not see if they spend all their time hovering over a factory 🙂

[sullen gull]

Mods?

[glad drum]

Nope, vanilla

Gotta start with the basics, restart PC

Just gonna be sad if my spaghetti world has become too much

[cunning glade]

Do u have too restart too change the the autosave interval or for it too apply and work

[sullen gull]

What's the crash? Have you already made a post in #1038092680493801533?

[cunning glade]

I've got 8 so far

[sullen gull]

Should not afaik.

[glad drum]

Game just freezes and doesn't close aside from End Task in task manager

[cunning glade]

I'm on the 9th

[sullen gull]

Immediately? or after a period of time?

[cunning glade]

Well I've turned off auto save and it's still doing it every 5 mins

[sullen gull]

Also verify files?

[glad drum]

After a period of time.

It used to happen like maybe once a session when I opened a container but it just happened twice where I was just moving in the world. The most recent one was about 5 seconds after loading my world.

Thanks will restart computer and verify files.

[candid ingot]

WHY THE FUCK ARE ADA AND THE MERCER MEN FLIRTING

"Your curves are beutyful"

[sullen gull]

Lol, though, you are seemingly trying to give Josh a run for his money with your save lol. I'd be curious to try and load your save here to see what happens 😏

[sullen gull]

You thought she would eventually flirt with you?

[candid ingot]

with me?

I wasn't expecting that tbh, it went from "what's the shape of the universe" to "I like your curves"

[glad drum]

It's not even that bad!! Hard to know for sure how many items are being loaded in one spot all at once though lmao

I'd be surprised since I've only just recently gotten minor framerate drops while playing

Files verified! Let's see how it goes

Yay -- It crashed again

[sullen gull]

Have you tried loading an earlier save?

[glad drum]

I could try - I only have 3 autosaves on so it'd only be like 15 minutes before

I also wanna try to NOT click Respawn to see if that's connected to the issue at all

[sullen gull]

Ahh, I save mine as a different one every night lol. So I have 'permenant' stages I can go back to.

[glad drum]

I used to do that 🙁 Shoulda kept doing it lmao

[sullen gull]

Try loading one of those, if you still have. May tell if it's game or save. 🤷‍♂️

[glad drum]

I DIDN'T hit "respawn" and instead just walked back to my base and I haven't crashed yet - so possibly linked to the respawn feature

[sullen gull]

Die in void or something?

[glad drum]

Nope, I just use it as a way to quickly get back to base. I'm gonna try it in another (less chaotic) world and see if it happens there

[cunning siren]

Ahhhh, unlimited power shards and ionized fuel automated 🤯

[sullen gull]

Haha, the counter in the hub is probably trying to do negative numbers and it don't like it 🤣

[sullen gull]

Shame shards can't be sent to the sink lol. Working on a 140/min power shard factory currently 😏

[cunning siren]

I slack so hard getting all the treasure because I want the best gear when I do it AND by the time I get the best gear there is no reason to get all the treasure 😆 what a cruel game!

[glad drum]

LOL well it didn't happen in the other save so I think I may at the point with my spaghetti that it can't handle loading all of that at once or something lmao

[cunning siren]

Wow... like truly no reason for that besides that you'll enjoy doing it

As if coupons are that big of an incentive, maybe that's part of the message being sent 🤔 work toil and suffer for tickets like at an arcade to buy a stuffed toy 😆

[glad drum]

YUP 100% if I click respawn in my spaghetti world and go to open a nearby assembler, I can make the game crash LMAO Should i report this somewhere

[shrewd palm]

reality collapsing spaghetti

[glad drum]

I'd hate to have to move my HUB because of this 🙁

[carmine aspen]

youd figure hed done shattered a somersloop on accident

[glad drum]

I've got my spaghetti woven INTO my HUB - a conveyor literally goes right through the opening and my catwalks all start from on top of it

[sullen gull]

I mean, I can easily burn em making power matrix or Ionized. Just not that far yet 🙂

Not that far as in, not sure which I want to do

Just trying to decide (still 😒 ) how I want to lay out 8 quantum encoders, 8 particle accelerators, and 16 Converters

lmao, if I were to use all 140 shards, I could make ~47/min power matrix ... but would need 140/min crystal oscillators 😭

Would power 9 power augmenters though 🤣

[cunning siren]

Got a single blender making rocket fuel powering everything besides some geos and 8x coal gens 😆 batteries at 16% HOOOOOLD!

Batteries pretty handy. Only have 25,900 MWh too 🤔

[sullen gull]

I've always made way more power than needed. Tried batteries once to see if they could help with thermo gen fluctuations.

[cunning siren]

Charge rate on batteries is somewhat low so need to build a bunch of em to pick up the slack on flucuations 🤷

[sullen gull]

With 20 refineries, and 8 blenders, you can make 37,500MW (60 fuel gens @250% so that 64 )

[cunning siren]

Yea, rocket fuel is nice

[sullen gull]

Not sure where my idiot self got 64k from ...

[cunning siren]

This single blender making rocket fuel is powering the majority of the base and making rocket fuel for the drones and ionized fuel for me right now 😆 "The hardest working blender"

[crisp edge]

FML. after having spent the time to build out an iron building consuming 900 ore/min, i discovered that my constructor blueprint that i decorated up has a flaw. every single one of the conveyor lifts on the output side is misaligned from its merger, so now i have to rip out every single one of them and replace it. here goes an hour. #screenshots message

[cunning siren]

Ooooof

[zenith pecan]

Ewww!

[brave thorn]

What's a normal output amount for Aluminum

It's so complicated i hope I'm doing it right

[zenith pecan]

crap? ingots? alclad sheets?

[sullen gull]

Since they are blueprints, is it easy enough to just delete them inbp mode, fix the bp and replace?

[brave thorn]

Ingot

I'm making 1300 scrap

[zenith pecan]

Depends on how many you need, my refinery produces 12300 ingots.

[crisp edge]

not now that i've connected all of them up, added catwalks overtop and surrounded them with pillars, added a roof to the second floor, etc. like i built the whole building and turned it on, and of course i made mistakes

[brave thorn]

Ok I guess I'm still in the green range

Thanks

[sullen gull]

It's easiest and simpler imo to break them into 'sections' producing 600/min

[zenith pecan]

The numbers also shift based on your recipes. , sloppy and pure simplify the chain but have lower output, swapping to electrode and you raise output.

[brave thorn]

The mk4 belts just don't help me with that, I can't balance it no matter how much I try

[sullen gull]

I mean, that stuff will still be there, just have to nudge a bit more

[brave thorn]

My refinery produces like 300/300/300/300/100

And it needs to be fed into a foundry, which I think i need 14.4 of

[tacit trellis]

is it possible to stack stackable supports on ground pipes?

[tawny vault]

@left aurora when are you resigning? You’ve ruined the good name

How many people watched that video

[rigid glen]

Not sure what you mean, but what would stop it?

[plain gate]

#math-and-meta message math pre-made for ya

[tacit trellis]

Like is there an easy snap mode to just put say like a stackable pipeline support on top of a ground pipe

[vocal wolf]

is biomass edible

[rigid glen]

Unfortunately no, no ctrl to place in line etc

[sullen gull]

You can try holding ctrl and aiming at the pipe.

[tacit trellis]

thats so ass tbh

[sullen gull]

If you had a ground support there, you can hold ctrl and snap to it. But not over just a pipe segment.

[plain gate]

if u try hard enough

[sullen gull]

for that you'd want a foundation under it or some fancy nudging if trying to place in on the ground.

[vocal wolf]

i wish there was a mod that made every item edible

[tacit trellis]

yummy coal

[vocal wolf]

yummy packaged liquid nitrogen

[tacit trellis]

Yummy ram sticks lmao

[vocal wolf]

protogen moment

[glad drum]

My fiancee was having trouble sleeping so I just started talking about how I'm going to upgrade my limestone miners to mark 2 and overcloxk them to produce 300 limestone each and connect them to 9 refineries to make wet concrete and after about 5 or 6 minutes of talking she told me I could stop, rolled over and fell asleep

Satisfactory truly is the best game

[tacit trellis]

💀 Mf is playing the game that consumes your sleep to put your fiancee to sleep

[candid ingot]

Are there certain alts that you NEED to unlock to get other ones? Bc I’m shooting for caterium wire but it REALLY wants me to unlock pure catirium ingots.

[tacit trellis]

Bruh i wish you could zoop factories

[dense violet]

no

I believe you do have to unlock the tech for it though

for example I don't believe yo ucan unlock Diluted Fuel until you unlock Blenders

iirc

[versed mesa]

Ive unlocked Geo and Alien gens

Now

[tacit trellis]

when factory zoop coming :(

[versed mesa]

Whats zoop

[tacit trellis]

you know how you can zoop build foundations

[versed mesa]

No

[tacit trellis]

press R while you're building foundations to put them into zoop mode where you build in straight lines of platforms

[versed mesa]

Ah you mean straigh up line connect mode

Ive only just recently found this out lol

[tacit trellis]

Factory zoop would be so nice man

[versed mesa]

I see

@tacit trellis you mean for blueprints

[tacit trellis]

I mean yeah that too but like just zoop like constructors n shit

[versed mesa]

You can

[tacit trellis]

No you cant?

[versed mesa]

Sort up you can

A white line will show if its lined up to the other one

[tacit trellis]

So you cant

[versed mesa]

Yeah you kind can

[tacit trellis]

Yeah i want to do it in 2 clicks instead of trying to line it up like 5 times

[versed mesa]

Yeah you can do that instantly

[tacit trellis]

??????

How?

[sullen gull]

If you hold ctrl and aim at the side of the building, it should snap to it.

[versed mesa]

Ive been doing it

[tacit trellis]

Yeah i've already been doing that i just want to be able to zoop man

[sullen gull]

Yeah/no, that much I get. same.

[tacit trellis]

I'm just wishcasting into the void i alreadly know i can ctrl snap it

[versed mesa]

@tacit trellis easy you select what build place next to another build and then the maje sure its in the blue so you can build it and you will get to see white lines arrow to show its in line with others but not the white lines of the build its self

[tacit trellis]

Yes i understand the concept of holding Control to snap I want zoop

[versed mesa]

I play with controller

[tacit trellis]

Oof

That's rough '

[versed mesa]

Its way better and easier

[tacit trellis]

This fr a KBM game man but you do you

[versed mesa]

Not sure what that means but ok

[tacit trellis]

as in it's like easier on kbm

[versed mesa]

Nooe I disagree

[teal geyser]

What is KBM?

[tacit trellis]

Keyboard and mouse

[teal geyser]

I just realized that as I pressed enter lol

[teal geyser]

Yea, I would not want to try and play this on controller

[sullen gull]

I've only tried on the steamdeck. wasn't bad for moving around and things. Didn't too much building with it yet..

[tacit trellis]

bruh TFW you just realised you can do a logistics floor but you're like already halfway done building the factory

you just have like more buttons you can do shit with

[sullen gull]

I've been making single machine bps with everthing connected underneath, then just remove the foundations.

[tacit trellis]

💀 i havent been using BPS

[sullen gull]

Zoop a big slab, another 4m up, boom, perfect for most logi floors. Less you have a ton of routing, then maybe 8 or 12m i'd say.

[tacit trellis]

tried it once and had issues with the chirality of the splitters and conveyer belts and didnt bother with it again

[sullen gull]

Firstly, good word lol. Second, how do you mean? I mean, for mine, I end up making a base, then 4 others being LIRO, LORO, RILO, etc.

left in-right out, etc

[tacit trellis]

ah

couldn't be bothered with it tbh

[rugged ore]

why are train signals so bad

like it just decides a direction for the track and you cant go against it even if its wrong

[sullen gull]

🤷‍♂️ takes me about 10 minutes to setup one machine and it's other vairients anymore. Saves SOOO much time in the long run. But I am also utilizing autoconnect. Would be a bit more of a pain with autoconnect though if you plan on upgrading the belts later.

[tacit trellis]

also i'm at the oil shit rn and man they're way too big to fit into MK 1 blueprints

OMFG when you go back to main base to pick up shit and then when you get back and forget you needed another thing

[sullen gull]

For one with a logi floor, yeah. Mk2 should be just round the corner though iirc.

[sullen gull]

DD's may man, DD's 😏

[dense violet]

just build like 1 or 2 refineries in a BP hooked up to all the pipes, belts and power. that's like 90% of the work

[sullen gull]

If not doing a logistics floor for refineries in a mk1. Since they apparently don't have a mk2 yet.

[tacit trellis]

I gotta make every factory with love or some shit idk

[sullen gull]

Otherwise, if not doing a logi floor, then yeah, a mk1 would work.

[cursive totem]

refineries are 10m wide, you can easily fit 3 in the mk1. not to rain on your parade, its fine if you wanna go without BPs, but at least know what youre talking about please

[sullen gull]

We were talking about doing one with things connected underneath. The refinery is too tall to fit 4m up in a mk1

[dense violet]

depends how you want to do things. Persaonally going through the tiers I just use a very basic BP of every machine that is all purpose. I don't bother with bespoke BPs until I make big permanent factories and those BPs are dedicated to like... 1 factory and will probably neve rbe used again

[cursive totem]

oh right, i am sorry then my bad. thanks for clearing up

bein on the topic of BPs - are there any BP collections to download out there? while i do like to build them myself i kinda wanna see how others are doing things

[sullen gull]

Yeah, tis why I started making them with no floor and only in single machine variants, then I can put down on any foundation config/angle, and just color to match.

[sullen gull]

Satifactory calculator site and satisfactory blueprints dot com

[dense violet]

on SCIM but you do learn 10x more by trialing things out

[sullen gull]

They did preface by saying they're just curious after building thier own ... 🤷‍♂️

[cursive totem]

i have already made BPs for every machine as singles and multiples in 2 different mirror orientations

i love blueprints, its my #1 feature request for any factory game i play lol

basically if i cant copy/paste i very probably wont play a factory game

its also why i waited until 1.1 to do an actual playthrough to have proper blueprints with autoconnect - any save before i played until oil and couldnt be bothered anymore

[plucky plank]

whats the best spot to produce radio control units

[dense violet]

depends on the recipes you want to use, how much you're wanting ot make. if youre already making some of the parts

are you building them from scratch?

[plucky plank]

i have the aluminum already and im making radio control systems

[dense violet]

well you can edit a plan like this and see what's going on? add the aluminium ingots to the input tab, change the recipe you want.

make any other alterations and compare to spots on map with SCIM https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=DHd0m1s3wqPw3Wtfmz1S

[plucky plank]

forgot to mention im maing 165 per minute

[dense violet]

add that in 🙂

[tacit trellis]

Is there a way to add production rates into your to do list or do you have to write it down manually

[dense violet]

can't help you on that one sorry, I've ignored the to do list completely :\ I suspsect you can't make pm lists.

although you could have like 10 HMF and jsut know yhou mean pm?

[tacit trellis]

I mean yeah i just write it manually but it would be nice to see rates

Like consumption/ production rates from a single constructer etc

[dense violet]

I mean if you'd find it useful sure

wait, wdym "Like consumption/ production rates from a single constructer etc" that seems liek a completely dif thing?

[tacit trellis]

Like 1 constructer makes 40 screws out of 10 rodss

per min

[dense violet]

oh do you mean mean recipe rates on your to do list?

[tacit trellis]

Yeah recipe rates on to do list

[dense violet]

yeah nah, that's not going to happen soz. You have the codex to refer to recipes, as well as the wiki

plus the rates are all negotialble with clocking

maybe just do like suggested before and have like 40 screws on your to do list and you'll know it's about rates

[brave thorn]

Thanks

[dense violet]

personally I've always found the to do list extreemely awkward

like using the ingame calculator

[tacit trellis]

Yeah ingame calculator is kinda iffy but like it's fine

I assume ppl just pull out a real calculator or an app calculator

[dense violet]

if I'm doing anything that needs a calculator I need to sit down and do a bunch of stuff and take notes. Just easier to use a hand one. Much faster

[tacit trellis]

Man am i gonna have to pull up an excel table on my second screen lmao

[dense violet]

I do that for big really planned systems 🙂

but mostly to keep track of what belts and going where, what clockings I need.

not much actual math

[cursive totem]

does any1 know what happens when i have blueprints for machines in a save i dont have those machines unlocked yet

[dense violet]

afaik imported bps ignore all restrictions

[cursive totem]

hm ill give it a try before i break our server lol

[dense violet]

it's a little weird honestly. I imagine it would have been annoying to make a filter to stop it.

and you can always just use advanced game settings to unlock thigns so it's just up to peopel how to use themn

[cursive totem]

as long as it doesnt break the save i dont mind. so i can import all my BPs in the save and be ready to go

[neat hinge]

could someone knowladgable help me quickly with a wierd train station unreachable error

[dense violet]

#math-and-meta is a good channel for it, or a #1038092680493801533 post. You'll want a few overhead images

probably showing hte block colours of your rail

[neat hinge]

#1419188507666284715 message

its just a simple through rail

[wooden mural]

anyway to continually farm bio matter?

[oblique prawn]

Wait are stators no longer used to build anything and are just a part for other parts?

[wooden mural]

do animals respawn or anything

[oblique prawn]

Sadly no you either have to kill animals or chainsaw/grab stuff

Yeah they respawn

[dense violet]

yes they do, but can't automate it

[wooden mural]

was thinking of making biofuel but its not in a sense "unlimited"

[dense violet]

it is, just need animal abuse

[oblique prawn]

Yeah you can’t automate it

[wooden mural]

HAHAHHAHA

[dense violet]

and you can sloop the bio mass process to make quite a bit

[wooden mural]

but good thing creatures respawn

[dense violet]

There's not much use case for it though

[wooden mural]

best fuel for jetpack?

[dense violet]

even if you like liquid bio fuel for hte jet pack you don't need much

It's very good early on?

I like rocket fuel for jet packs though. Much later

[wooden mural]

im still in the midgame tho

was thinking of swapping from turbo fuel to liquid biofuel

is it worth the hassle or no?

[dense violet]

I wouldn't unless you were planning on making turbo fuel anyway

and you can easily get to nuclear or even complete all the phases with diluted fuel

[wooden mural]

turbo fuel is good but it runs out so fast

im heading there

designing my aluminum factory rn

[dense violet]

bigger boosts. It depends on how you like to move. If you land more frequently and fly like that? TF is solid

[spark sky]

Is there anything that actually colors a round concrete beam?

[tacit trellis]

Quick q do double wall outlets transfer power through the wall or do you gotta hook it up on the other side?

[spark sky]

The double ones are pass-through. Hook power up to one side, draw power from either side.

[tacit trellis]

sweet

[vocal wolf]

im new to satisfactory, are all the biomes connected or are there just a single big biome in the world? kinda dumb question ig

[spark sky]

If you put a single one on both sides of a wall, though, you will have to connect them if you want them on the same circuit.

[spark sky]

You start in one of four biomes, but you can go from there to any of the others.

[teal geyser]

What do you mean? stators are used in motors

[vocal wolf]

cool, thought the world was teeny cuz i made the hub rlly close to the border

[oblique prawn]

Yeah but I mean it’s no longer used for building with the build gun

[teal geyser]

New players often mistake the starting areas as 4 different worlds

[teal geyser]

Oh I see, I thought you meant recipes

[oblique prawn]

That’s what I was asking to see if I still needed a separate stator setup

[spark sky]

Okay, I don't understand that, but then I started with 1.0. Explain having to use stators to use the build gun.

[oblique prawn]

No I mean some things used to use stators to build like the power storage

I think 1.1 changed that

[vocal wolf]

are there batteries in the game

[oblique prawn]

Yeah the power storage

[vocal wolf]

cool

[teal geyser]

Do you know that the dimensional depot is?

[oblique prawn]

?

[spark sky]

Okay, I started just before 1.1, so didn't have time to get to stators before that.

I just figure that, whatever I need stators for, I'll build them when I need them.

[teal geyser]

As in the part or the “power storage” building?

[tacit trellis]

bro i hate the tech broey shit but like bro imagine building shit on the neuralink lmao you just think factories into existence

[teal geyser]

Bro what

[oblique prawn]

Yeah last time I played you still needed a separate stator line for certain things

[spark sky]

Well, I'll assume you still need one if you need motors.

[oblique prawn]

No I mean separate as in JUST stators to go in a box to grab when needed NOT in the production of something else because obviously you still need them for that

[spark sky]

One thing I noticed: if a blueprint needs something like motors, it will just use the raw components that go into making the motors as if you made them on the fly.

[teal geyser]

Dimensional depot would be the thing you need then, so you always have them on hand

[oblique prawn]

Why would I need that if I no longer need them for builds anymore?

[spark sky]

Anyway, yeah, dump a bunch in the dimensional depot and you won't need to worry about it.

[teal geyser]

Really? Ive never had that happen before but I either always have motors on me or my dimensional depot full of motors when building stuff

[tacit trellis]

uh what happens if head exceedes maximum head?

[oblique prawn]

Noooooo I mean that I don’t need them stand alone anymore

Like I don’t need them by themselves

[teal geyser]

It doesn’t hurt you in anyway to have stators just sitting in storage/dimensional depot

[spark sky]

I've been building stuff in creative mode (power plant builds) and placing them, and noticed that I don't need all the in-between parts, if I have the raw materials in the dimensional depot.

[oblique prawn]

Because the old build recipe for the power storage used to require stators

[teal geyser]

Sounds like you need those resource nodes real bad I guess

[oblique prawn]

Yeah but I just don’t want to have a separate production line clogging up my stuff anymore

[teal geyser]

Why would it be clogging up your stuff? What do you mean?

[oblique prawn]

Just another thing to try and ratio out and to floor plan in a cramped factory

[tacit trellis]

also lmao i'm a weirdo that does roof logistics instead of floor below logistics

[teal geyser]

So it’s a space thing? Sounds like your factory is too small, or just build a small dedicated stator assembler somewhere out of the way

[oblique prawn]

No matter what I somehow always build too small

[tacit trellis]

always build the foundation like way too big tbh

[teal geyser]

Just spam foundations everywhere and then you will have tons of space

[tacit trellis]

Fr just spam zoop 10 at a time lmao

[oblique prawn]

Yeah I just usually start with max zoop

10x10

My biggest build yet is a 12x12 16 reactor coal plant

[teal geyser]

I don’t build proper factory buildings, just endless foundation spam with production lines all around

[tacit trellis]

Fr

[shy mulch]

Or make a 6x6 blueprint foundation. I can place a blueprint which is 36 foundations faster than I can zoop 10. Make it real easy to spam out a big factory floor

[tacit trellis]

Like spam zoop until you think you have too much space then add like 2 more layers around it lmao

[oblique prawn]

Oh I like to make Inclosed buildings, I try to make things look nice

[teal geyser]

Build bigger I guess

[spark sky]

I've made some buildings enclosed, some open on the sides, depends on what I'm building.

[shy mulch]

Build the machines you need, THEN make it nice

[oblique prawn]

Yeah I should, I just feel like everytime I try to do one thing it takes hours

[tacit trellis]

💀 Enclosed? wym enclosed what does enclose mean #screenshots message

[oblique prawn]

Yeah that’s usually the way I do it

[spark sky]

Anyway, back to what I was asking before, is there no way to recolor concrete?

Well, concrete beams.

[shy mulch]

I guess you haven't got to mega scale yet where things take days or weeks or months 😛

[oblique prawn]

The furthest I’ve gotten was to aluminum but never doing anything with it

Also I swear aluminum used to be phase 6

[spark sky]

Heh, I've built 3 different versions of a solid biofuel power plant, working on my 4th now, just because I want to see what I can do tho compact it or make it look interesting.

[cunning siren]

I don't do sandbox play for some reason 🤷 I start another run

[shy mulch]

Up to you how you choose to play. Sandbox is my favourite part. I think of the entire space elevator as a massive tutorial, THEN the fun starts hehe

I just hit the point where coupon point requirements stop going up, and I haven't even finished my megafactory yet

[peak wasp]

I am not really supposed to say this but according to ada I am her most valuable pioneer

[tacit trellis]

Omfg i'm blowing my ears out when i run past my oil power generators lmao

[spark sky]

I think, from what I see in the game, as far as ADA is concerned, you're the ONLY Pioneer she knows (or knows is still alive). I think she has a bit of a disconnect from her "sisters".

Well, I think she has a disconnect from reality, really.

[peak wasp]

nope this clearly means I am better then all of you...ada says so

[spark sky]

Well, keep the illusion up. I think she's just trying to get you to work harder.

And it sounds like it's working.

[tacit trellis]

Also like what does exceeding maximum head lift do?

[cunning siren]

Was burning through filters fast, then I realized I wasn't near anything radioactive 😆 Looks like radiation bug is still a thing

[spark sky]

I thought filters were for the green gas.

Those gas pillars?

[cunning siren]

There are other ones for radiation too

[zenith fractal]

iodine infused filters

is that it's name? I forgor

[dense violet]

liquid doesn't go past it

[tacit trellis]

Oh so it just caps at like 20m and doesn't explode your pipes

[dense violet]

nope.

you can put a mk1 pump every 20m and be fine. It also resets the headlift

so puting like 5 next to each other doesn't give you 100m

[tacit trellis]

Yeah ok

[surreal meteor]

What do I do if I accidentally drive a train into a lake and the train falls to the bottom?

[dense violet]

dismantle the train

[surreal meteor]

I can't

[tacit trellis]

💀 thought i was gonna explode my pipes or smth

[tacit trellis]

Bro dismantle the real unstuck of the game

[dense violet]

get in the water and try

force yourself down using ramp foundations

[surreal meteor]

Its too deep

[dense violet]

should be able to then I think

that's why you force your way down

or reload autosave to a previous time

[tacit trellis]

omg autosaves exist lmao

[surreal meteor]

Nvm, a ghost of the train appeared on top

[fickle arch]

i just unlocked the particle accelerator and when i have 3 power shardes and 4 sloops it draws more than 2x of what my current entire factory draws power wise :/

[weak oak]

there are so much new things...

[clear aspen]

Why not xenon infused filters

[barren dove]

Build a foundation tower jump off then F under water?
Maybe they took dismantle mode out tho when under

[torn token]

But its a lategame upgrade right

[dull flare]

u can take them out

[shy mulch]

No, you can unlock somersloops immediately in the MAM if you have the required stuff

[dull flare]

it’s not a big deal just do it

[dull flare]

most advanced item u need is a PCB and u can find those next to drop pods

[shy mulch]

Just go to the MAM and look for production amplification

[boreal musk]

you can unlock amplification tree upgrade as early as unlocking steel

thats always the first thing i did after unlocking steel, so i can double all my slugs very early

[dusky coral]

Are there any mods that provide the Factorio style graphs that track per item production/consumption and more granular power?

[peak wasp]

should I be making turbo fuel to power trucks?

[dense violet]

ugh. try the modding server

[dusky coral]

okay thanks!

[reef basin]

Up to you

[dense violet]

but the main reason why that's pointless in satisfactory is you build stable production lines

you don't have variable inputs and outputs like in factorio

[cunning siren]

Swamp is no joke, forgot how angry this biome is 🤔

[dense violet]

so once you build a factory that outputs X parts per min, it'll always output X parts per min

[peak wasp]

Sounds good speaking of which I need to redo my entire factory due to getting better belt

I went from 270 to the 450 belts

[reef basin]

Uh, why not keep ir as it is? No reason to upgrade just because you have better belt

[peak wasp]

Because I am making sweeping changes to my entire factory

Plus going for 9 smelters to 15 per line

[dusky coral]

as i upgrade belts/pipes/miners for coal power (for example) i have to track where the bottlenecks are in a notepad so that i dont overbuild gens, trick myself into thinking i have more power cap than i actually do, couple of gens run out of supply, power trips - notepad is working fine but an inbuilt stat monitoring would be preferable

[dense violet]

split the line at the miner, make a new system

[peak wasp]

There are no miners

[dense violet]

absolutely keep your power station and factories split up.

[dense violet]

if you have no miners outputing more ore, you don't need to upgrade to faster belts

[peak wasp]

Lol my factory is made by me a dufus who decided to truck everything in

[dense violet]

still doesn't change anything, they pick up from a miner

[peak wasp]

And right now I'm getting about 1000 iron ore in a minute

[barren dove]

I just switched from coal powered trucks to ionized fuel.

Guess it depends on the distance, and if you want to or not.

[dense violet]

just split the incoming ore to another belt system

[peak wasp]

The thing with these new fuels is they are much more efficient so you are using less of everything

[barren dove]

Exactly so it comes down to if you need it and if you want it.

[dense violet]

depends what you mean 'efficient', they just use other resources on top of hte oil

[peak wasp]

This will go down from 10 per minute with fuel canister's

[peak wasp]

I mean fuel is a dump product anyways

[dense violet]

?

[peak wasp]

I make rubber and plastic then get heavy oil which gets made into fuel canister's for trucks

My entire trucking system is made off a side effect

[shy mulch]

Welcome to how fuel works in real life

[peak wasp]

So yeah I really don't count fuel as a important thing

[wary perch]

I want a sweeping change to the game so I can have a different liquid in my coffee cup

[shy mulch]

It's an extremely important thing

[peak wasp]

Weird

[shy mulch]

Why is it weird? It's one of the key power sources in the game

[reef basin]

usually I'd recommend to just build new and keep old

see also https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[harsh valley]

Good morning

It's time for my build to not work again and have no idea why

[cunning glade]

Plastic Smart plating good?

[dense violet]

depending on your situation and needs? sure

[cunning glade]

Well I'm phase 3

So idk if needed again

But idk what it makes

[dense violet]

you need smart plating for the next tier of space parts, then the next and the next

[cunning glade]

I see

[dense violet]

but if you're already making them? you may not need to change things up

[cunning glade]

I'm making 10 a min rn

[dense violet]

really depends how you want to go about things

[cunning glade]

I see

Other option is recycled rubber

[dense violet]

recycled rubber is part of the most oil efficient rubber/plastic chain.

and plastic/rubber is often used in alt recipes as padding resoruces

replacing others

[cunning glade]

Well rn I'm making uhhh 900 a min

[dense violet]

sure, but you may make more later right?

[cunning glade]

Probs

[dense violet]

for the recycle chain you need
heavy oil residue alt
diluted fuel
recycled rubber
recycled plastic

[torn token]

So its recommended to do it right away
Getting twice the power fragments is huge

[dense violet]

kinda. there's more thant 2500 shards on the map possible without slooping

and the only mechanical benefit you get from them is on miners, increasing raw resource output

otherwise overclocking other machiens is space saving.

which isn't nothing? but is aesthetic

[cunning glade]

Cat wire seems horrible no?

[dense violet]

again , depends entirely on yoru situation and needs xD

[crystal lynx]

Hello

[cunning glade]

Ig I didn't look at the amount

[dense violet]

if you have caterium nearby you don't need anything else for? it's an extremely compact recipe

[cunning glade]

Fair

[reef basin]

not really given they are infinite

[dense violet]

and think about this, you could use the FUSED wire recipe, which is Copper and Caterium to make wire

and then make the copper ingots out of copper AND iron , and make wire from a combination of iron , copper and caterium 😛

be silly with it

[shy mulch]

Personally I would, but I understand why a lot of people don't. The best way to play this game is to understand stuff and decide for yourself rather than relying on advice for everything

[cunning glade]

I think I'm gonna get more hard drives before I make a computer or hmf factory

[dense violet]

sure. there's quite a few recipes that afect them.

especially computers

[cunning glade]

I'm seeing that

Already getting some very nice ones

I want more

Only thing I very much dislike

Is running around and suddenly a 7ft tall spider jumps at me

I am not excited for a VR playthrough

[boreal musk]

do you mind bringing in oil for less iron?

[versed mesa]

For the location where geynor is what sort of factory is best to build there its the deposits that create auto electric when you place Geo on the node

[cunning glade]

So

[dense violet]

if you're making further tier space parts with it you'll probably be bringing in oil anyway

[cunning glade]

I dislike life

I'm assuming the alt hor recipe

[versed mesa]

Any ideas would be great please

[cunning glade]

Hor alt recipe more efficient for fuel gens?

[boreal musk]

hor alt trades 3 oil for 4 hor, which is a great recipe if combined with diluted fuel

[dense violet]

part of the Recycle loop I mentioned

[cunning glade]

I see

[dense violet]

you basically turn all oil to HOR and then diluted fuel, then go fromthere

[boreal musk]

hor + diluted is basically turning 3 oil into 8 fuel

which is the most efficient fuel recipe you could ever get

[cunning glade]

Steel screws hello

That looks good

[dense violet]

very convenient to supply screws to screw heavy recipes

[cunning glade]

I'm seeing

[dense violet]

you can treat Steel Beams like boxes of screws that get unpacked with a constructor right before used

[cunning glade]

Fused quartz crystal seems pretty good too it seems

[dense violet]

like all recipes they all have their situations where they can be useful 🙂

Fused quartz doesn't really output much more than teh base recipe though

it's a fairly heavy coal cost. But if you have a ton of coal you don't need? yeah solid

[cunning glade]

I did screw's

If early game taught me anything

[dense violet]

Quartz purification is a funny one 😄 I really want to use that at some point

[cunning glade]

Iron screws were amazing

[dense violet]

cast screws? convenient early on

[cunning glade]

Didn't remember name

Very convenient

[dense violet]

but if you do regular screws with STEEL iron rods? woooo the efficiency there

you make 4 rods from 1 steel ingot

[cunning glade]

I see

I'm back on my hunt for drives

[tacit trellis]

Yo can you make vertical splitters where like you split up or down from a placed conveyer belt?

[cursive crane]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Conveyor_Lifts#Vertical_Splitter_and_Vertical_Merger

[tacit trellis]

Like a T where the - of the T is a conveyer?

[cursive crane]

place the splitter on a vertical section of belt first, then delete the top portion.

[tacit trellis]

ty

[cunning glade]

Hmmm there's a rad hog

I don't think I can kill it

Desert is scary

[tacit trellis]

How do i do it as a T but the input and output is inline with the - and not the | ?

Lmao I want a hole in my belt that's not there half the time

[shy mulch]

Go high out of its range above it and rain nobelisks on its head until it gets bored of being alive

I find the radioactive spiders to be the hardest because they are usually inside caves where going high isn't really an option. That's why I made my kill box blueprint

[cunning glade]

I just stole the hard drive and ran

[true mulch]

Time saving tip

You can pull the lever, close the UI and interact again and not have to wait for the animation

[bright helm]

What is average time to complete phase 4 space elevator?

[tacit trellis]

Wyd with heavy oil residue?

will you have issues with pipes losing prime if you're feeding more generators than residue fuel can sustain?

[solar hamlet]

Unlocking a new phase is enough for alternate recipes research or do I need to unlock the specific techs?

[frail sleet]

from start of game or start of p4?

[mortal ginkgo]

For an alternate recipe to appear in the selection, certain prerequisites (Milestone, MAM Research, or another alternate recipe) have to be met.

I saw Blender recipes appear despite the fact that one cant make Blender machine

[spice patio]

Lot of alt recipes that have multiple unlock sources have "OR" type, and not "AND" type requirements.

[shy mulch]

Between 5 hours and 250 hours depending on your play style

[spice patio]

Even when AND would seem much more logical.

High-tier example:

Electromagnetic Connection Rod: Tier 8 - Nuclear Power OR MAM Caterium Research - AI Limiter

Not blender recipe, but as idea.

[hard ivy]

recipes are always locked behind either milestones or MAM research (or both)

and like 2 or 3 aren't locked behind anything

[reef basin]

There have been some reports about wiki having OR wrong and it should be AND, idk if this is the case or not

[spice patio]

Might be wrong in all or most cases.

[hard ivy]

I'm reasonably sure all alts should have an AND instead of OR. some defaults actually do have OR, but I don't remember seeing an alt that does

also, biocoal and charcoal have a compacted coal requirement on the wiki but in the game files they just require coal power

[oblique aspen]

pretty sure you get something simple as pure ingot recipes before refineries still as well

[hard ivy]

wet concrete and copper sheets are unlocked with coal power, instead of oil processing, like they should be (and like all pure recipes)

[cunning glade]

I got so many new alt recipes

I got like 20 drives

But I need too sleep or should

I wanna use them 😔

[dense violet]

well you'll empty your pipes and stutter your generators. And that could cause back flow

[tacit trellis]

Quick Q will trains go back and forth on a single line for transport or do you need to set up a loop?

[dense violet]

they can go back and forth if yo uset them up to

if you don't want a loop back an engine on both end is usually teh solution

[tacit trellis]

oh ez ty

also do you gotta set up foundations from base to base?

[dense violet]

do you have to? no
is it useful for keeping your rails tidy and for planning the route so you can avoid problems? yes

I'll zoop foundations the whoile way and paste train pylons on top

[tacit trellis]

Train pylons?

[dense violet]

pillars that hold tracks

[tacit trellis]

Oh

[dense violet]

like this. This is avery old, quick and dirty train line I made #design-and-architecture message

you can remove the zooped foundations after

or this #design-and-architecture message

if you just want to make a quick and dirty train line though you can do w/o the foundations

[tacit trellis]

Lmao my way from my oil factory to my main factory is over the sea and the abyss

[dense violet]

could still make it quick and dirty 😉

[tacit trellis]

how do you do curvy foundations?

[dense violet]

there's various methods. I like the wan method

[tacit trellis]

Express train to the edge of the world lmao

[dense violet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jxfy2_Iw6U

[tacit trellis]

also do trains actually need to curve? they cant take like 90 degree angles right?

[dense violet]

well

effectively the tightest 90 degree turn you can do is over a 3x3 foundation turn

which is still pretty curvy

[tacit trellis]

oh a 3x3 isn't too bad

[tacit trellis]

Do train lines work with just single zooped foundations?

[hard ivy]

you can fit 1 rail on 1 foundation. 2 rails need 2 foundations width. or vertical stacking

[tacit trellis]

ty

[unkempt blade]

I think you can actually run 2 rails on a 1 width but they'd both being hang off the sides of it

shouldn't have train collisions at least though

[frail sleet]

The minimum 90 degree turn was 2.5 foundations at launch, but 1.1 reduced it down to 2 foundations

If you can build the rail, trains will follow it

[steel dome]

guys can you have more than 1 drone on 2 ports

[frail sleet]

you can send A to B and B to A for 2 drones 2 ports

[hard ivy]

you can make even tighter turns lol #screenshots message

[steel dome]

Thank you

[frail sleet]

that is a bug 😄

[hard ivy]

well, the game allowed me to just build a rail like that. that means it's intended, right?

[unkempt blade]

Check out that turning radius! Some engineer put in work on that

[solemn relic]

do Spore Flowers respawn?

[tidal ivy]

hey guys

i'd like to showcase a bit of my current build, a radio control unit factory that'll be upgraded to a nuclear pasta factory, then to a singularity cell factory

which channel is best suited for that?

[hard ivy]

#screenshots or #design-and-architecture probably

[tidal ivy]

thanks!

[harsh valley]

Any idea approximately how much will satisfactory cost on ps5?

This might be my only chance to play it without one biomass burner causing 2fps

[dense violet]

2 lanes also work with one foundations if you use pylons like in the image

[tacit trellis]

I dont think i got pylons unlocked yet so kinda unlucky

[unkempt blade]

those are blueprints people made not a whole piece that gets unlocked

[tacit trellis]

oh

[dense violet]

could just be a few foundations up and across. Real simple

or real fancy. Up to you

[tacit trellis]

💀 surely 1 train will be enough

[dense violet]

I mean for now? probably

[small notch]

where has the most iron?

[dense violet]

but the Train's super power is reusing the same infrastructure for multiple trains

[dense violet]

basically every start zone

use SCIM if you need specific numbers of them

[hard ivy]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#4;91507;76214|gameLayer|ironImpure;ironNormal;ironPure

[mighty rivet]

do you still get achievements with mods?

[mortal ginkgo]

north west of the map has really alot for a starter zone

[spark sky]

I suppose that we don't have any way of making blinking lights (like you put on water towers and radio towers to ward off aircraft)?

[neon cloak]

what kinds of lights does awesome shop have?

i doubt there is a big catalog of them for now

[spark sky]

Well, it has street lights, flood lights and ceiling lights.

[neon cloak]

wth are flood lights

[spark sky]

And you can sort of make light bars out of signs.

[neon cloak]

is it a typo or i didnt know about it

[spark sky]

Flood lights are those rectangular lights on buildings, usually sodium vapor, but the new ones are LED. They light up large areas (flooding the area with light) for security.

[spark sky]

This is a flood light in Satisfactory (unlit) #screenshots message

[crystal lynx]

Who wants to play satisfactory on my server??

[mighty rivet]

playing with the fast craft mod is actually really fun as its not a slow grind

[hard ivy]

I mean realistically there's no reason to handcraft anything past coal power

[crystal lynx]

I play on slow mode because I like discovering this game.

[limpid cairn]

cheater !!!

[dense violet]

is that about hand crafting?

[mighty rivet]

yeah

[dense violet]

so.. .the thing you're supposed to avoid doing in the first place

[limpid cairn]

hand crafting isnt even that bad

i hand crafted supercomputers for t3 miners

[gilded ginkgo]

I have a question.
Should I start building the Turbofuel factory (I already have blenders) along with using half of these for the power generation and another half for vechicles and jetpack?
Or should I build Radio control unit factory and go straight then for rocket fuel with half of those transported for the vechicle/jetpack consumption?

[dense violet]

up to you. You can avoid turbo fuel and rocket fuel entirely too

[gilded ginkgo]

The problem with Rocket fuel is that I still need to unlock it and the containers would need me to bring aluminum

[limpid cairn]

youll need to build the turbo fuel factory either way but id go with radio control units since then you wouldnt have to destroy the factory again

[gilded ginkgo]

while containers for turbofuel I can produce on the spot

[gilded ginkgo]

I understand but the packaging would still be a problem and I wonder if turbofuel would be enough I need

[dense violet]

do you need more power?

right now?

[limpid cairn]

why would you package the turbo fuel from your powerplant tho?

[gilded ginkgo]

My max consumption is reaching my production since previously I made 12000 MW regular fuel factory with diluted packaged fuel

[dense violet]

sounds like you need more power

[gilded ginkgo]

I already told that half of it I wanted to transfer for vechicle consumption since I might not need as many power

[dense violet]

you won't need a full half to vehicles either unless it's quite a small TF plant

[gilded ginkgo]

I also think so since it reached higher after building AI Limiter and High speed connector factory

[gilded ginkgo]

Alr

[dense violet]

personally I'd just make a nice diluted fuel system or TF system that would get you to nuclear. It's not nearly as sily as Rf

[astral plover]

do ppl uaually oc the power plant ?

[dense violet]

quite often

[astral plover]

seems like no side effect like reducing the power that generate.
im thinking about oc it, build up 80 nucleear with 100% co spd power plant is a nightmare

[dense violet]

it's purely space reduction. But generators are huge so a lot do it

[limpid cairn]

its space saving without any downside

why wouldnt you overclock

without overclock id need to place 480 fuel powerplants

[astral plover]

im going to oc it rn.

[limpid cairn]

make sure to have enough resources to deliver to the machine after the overclock

[astral plover]

yeah all perparetion is done, all i haave to do is build the power plant

32 if all build is oc 250%

less painful than 80 with 100% oc

[upper gale]

Mine was 84 at 250% and it just barely fit on the lake surface at blue crater lol

The blenders were there as well

[limpid cairn]

im at 192 with 250% 💀

i can probably go up to 200 since i somehow have 200 fuel per min excess

[upper gale]

The excess rocket fuel I used for a drone port which refuels other drone ports

[limpid cairn]

i have a completely other factory for that

i just convert like 100 fuel per min into HOR and that into fuel for rf

[upper gale]

Having things separate is usually better

[limpid cairn]

It is

[upper gale]

I'm almost trying to do the opposite xd
It's not a mega factory or independency. It's something in between

Spread out factories but they each make as many different things as they can in the spot they're built in

[small notch]

hello

[jolly flax]

i finally built my first coal gen setup

making 600 MW

[shrewd palm]

huge

[jolly flax]

took me a while

since i needed lots of resources and my biomass gens kept shutting down

it feels

Satisfactory

[shrewd palm]

make sure you upgrade it later

[jolly flax]

i will

now with all this power I can finally start making the factory and build on platforms

[small notch]

hmf seeming like a lotta effort

[jolly flax]

it was

[shrewd palm]

the 4 (3 without nobelisks) normal nodes there should be enough to fuel 32 coal generators (24 without nobelisks) with mk2 miners

[small notch]

time to build a big hmf factory 👍

[jolly flax]

i just got into coal

[shrewd palm]

the cube line gets insane

[jolly flax]

i did use 2 normal coal nodes tho

the one in the big lake

[small notch]

yh ive seen nuclear pasta and fused frames

[shrewd palm]

theres another one right next to them

[small notch]

hella effort

[shrewd palm]

and a 4th hidden under a breakable rock

in that area

[small notch]

u need a nobelisk right

[shrewd palm]

yes

[small notch]

time to finish my train line to my plastic plant and then rot making hmf

[upper gale]

I remember using pure iron ingot alt for mine, needed a lot of iron

[shrewd palm]

fused frames arent bad but ive reached the point of conversion cubes and pasta and i am more than a little worried

my space elevator factory is gonna need a bunch of pasta, and my phase 5 factory will also need some

[small notch]

once i get rocket fuel at phase 4 i should have enough power to make a huge hmf factory

[shrewd palm]

so im debating whether or not i should make one big pasta factory or 2 smaller ones

[small notch]

big pasta

just looks cooler imo

[shrewd palm]

unless you're doing something insane you probably wont need more than like 40-60

[limber mulch]

I'd make the blueprints while making the small one, and then use the blueprints to make the second small one - but I'm a Lazy Satisfactory Guy lol.

[small notch]

sooo spend 20 hours on making 100

[shrewd palm]

whatever ends up happening the small one will be separate from my phase 5 factory

[small notch]

i like to make sure i have a lot lol

[shrewd palm]

and i sort of have the space elevator factory planned out (will be something like a city in the red desert)

but i think theres room for another 2 pasta/min in there

[small notch]

before phase 4 js gotta get circuit boards, high speed connectors and computers and hmf automated for personal use

[limber mulch]

Bill, Un-Toucher of Grass, Urban Planner of the Red Desert

[shrewd palm]

i need more high speed connectors but i dont think i have the plastic for that lmao

[small notch]

i made a plastic plant but it only makes 300 a min rn

cba to do more at the min

[shrewd palm]

im making 3600 but i think im already using about half of that

and then all my phase 5 stuff will be using the rest and i'll only have scraps left

[small notch]

i could do a bunch more but its mostly power at the min that stops me

[shrewd palm]

i think i have like 4 oil nodes that im not using tho so i might be able to do something with that

[upper gale]

What is using 18,000 plastic? 😭

oh myb i mean

1,800

I made do with 200

[shrewd palm]

using i think 1600 for some phase 3/4 stuff (computers, supercomputers, turbo motors, motors, radio control units)

space elevator + phase 5 stuff will be using the same

[upper gale]

ah yeah

[shrewd palm]

and then random little factories are using up a couple hundred

[unkempt solar]

Where can I post a screenshot to ask which alternate recipe get?

[hard ivy]

#math-and-meta?

[unkempt solar]

ty

[jolly hawk]

Hey guys

[pliant rapids]

Sorry if not allowed but if anyone could spend a minute helping me understand why my coal generator setup isnt working I would be grateful, I'm stuck

[fiery lotus]

I can help I'm too sick to work on more complex things right now anyways

[hard ivy]

post in #1038092680493801533 with pictures of the setup

[fiery lotus]

^

& it's usually liquid so first thing is to check all your pipes to see if you actually have consistent flow

[modern jungle]

I unlocked production amplifier at teir 2 because I ran around the map and grabbed all the stuff from drop pods that I needed

[pliant rapids]

Thank you, sorry about posting in wrong channel^^

[fiery lotus]

Same but I end up never using them because I know I'll have to rip them out of the machine eventually and then expand the module

So why not just build it at the right size right now

[modern jungle]

I'm using production amplifier to get more power shards and alien DNA capsules, that's it

[fiery lotus]

Now that's a good use for them

[fiery lotus]

(And the best way to have consistent flow is to bring the fluid above the machine inputs then drop it down into them/their loop)

[gusty helm]

T ZTGF

[vast bear]

Hi, first time posting/asking here ... what is a good factory planner currently ? Satisfactory Tools doesn't work beyond plutonium it seems.

[white dawn]

It does! But you need to manually enter how much Uranium Waste you have

[hard ivy]

I use satisfactory tools for everyting

[white dawn]

Nuclear Power Plants don't use recipes, and sftools just uses auto-recipe-extract data from the game itself. So you've gotta manually plug in the waste value for it to generate the next step

(Via the "Items, Input" tab, fwiw)

[vast bear]

I did add the 720/m i'm creating, it doesn't get the recipes for Plutonium Fuel

[white dawn]

Vanilla recipes, w/ 720/min Uranium Waste: https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=NPAjJQ9iLlHXui0gbbRi

[hard ivy]

works fine for me
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=ZmMJYcNTu85z1ni4AaAY

[vast bear]

Weird, i have the exact same setup on another tab and it didn't put out the shemes ... but man, thanks ❤️

[hexed phoenix]

Is there a way to get Through put monitor to "snap" to belt for better alignment?

[compact herald]

am i misunderstanding expected efficiency?

i am currently in a bit of a primitive factory setup and i am able to supply 30 rods a minute to 2 assemblers that require 20 rods a minute for rotors

they have infinite screw etc

with a splitter, each assembler receives 15 rods a minute

should this not result in a 75% efficiency? or a number approximating that? both of my assemblers are functioning at about 40% efficiency

oops, never mind :3, i got lost in my factories spaghetti :D

there was another splitter flying in the sky halving the production further lol

[shy mulch]

@weak oak why not put it in a constructor with a somersloop, it'll do it automatically and you'll get double the output

[weak oak]

reasons of uh id have to go grab one

[shy mulch]

definitely worth doing imo

[weak oak]

ok ill ho look around for one

[shy mulch]

have you researched power amplification?

[weak oak]

nope

just unlocked the mam tho

[shy mulch]

Aha, definitely worth looking at the research trees and unlocking stuff that you can, those will really help make your game easier 🙂

[weak oak]

i just hate early game screws

so i do it all last

[shy mulch]

they aren't too bad, just make only what you need

[weak oak]

fair

one day ill how enough biofaul to make them auto

spelling of a god😭

[shy mulch]

the earlier you automate it the better

you hardly need anything to get started

[limber mulch]

Do them first so you can enjoy the early game a little more 🙂

[weak oak]

i gave up and toss together what i needed

it feels so slow without 150 percent

6 secs a iron pipe

[hard ivy]

just get alts to get rid of screws

[weak oak]

i gotta find the alt

i forgot how long they take without the speed mod 10 mins

[upper gale]

Alt to get rid of screws
Or alt to make screws easier
Alt either way

[weak oak]

ill grind to the alt

[hard ivy]

if you scan drives as you find them, you can have over half of them scanned by the time you finish your expedition. prolly even all of them if you aren't using SCIM to just go straight from one to the next

[weak oak]

fair enough

[unkempt blade]

or classic screws + screw based recipes because I'm not a weak pioneer

winning the hardest involves flexing all your unoptimized decisions

[zenith pecan]

Basic screws was the only recipe whos numbers worked for my quartz processing facility in the north,

[upper gale]

That's funny I usually pick up screw alt because I like those numbers better

[upper gale]

Facts

[jolly flax]

Uhh does satisfactory + mod still work?

[hard ivy]

pretty sure it has been updated for 1.0

[honest ridge]

yo how do i choose the type of nobelisk the thingy uses

[hard ivy]

Hold R

[cunning glade]

If I use a mod too make trains faster

[honest ridge]

i mean i tried that and it just reloaded the regular one

i have gas ones in my inventory tho

[cunning glade]

Trains therefore have different throughput?

[hard ivy]

hold, not press

[smoky forge]

yes ofcorse

[honest ridge]

yeah i did hold it

[cunning glade]

I see

Is that a good or bad thing

[smoky forge]

good

considering that its cheating tho....

[cunning glade]

Cuz I just like faster trains

[honest ridge]

oh is it cos i havnt actually researched has nobelisks yet

my dog found them

[cunning glade]

It goes too 199kmh idk what stock is at least on autodrive

[hard ivy]

I mean the same formulas apply because they're time based. your trains will just complete routes faster

[cunning glade]

Manual I can go 800

[hard ivy]

120

[cunning glade]

I see

[honest ridge]

trains go 800kmh?

[cunning glade]

That felt too slow

[cunning glade]

Mine can cuz mods

[honest ridge]

oh right

thats fast bro

enter ur train in f1

[cursive phoenix]

guys how do i make a thing where if the machine gets full an item of it ( assembler to make the thing for phase 2) how do i only sort out the modular frames if its full? since i make 6 modulair frames per min and i need 5

[cunning glade]

I probs should've not used that mod for my first experience using trains but meh

[honest ridge]

just underclock an assembler to make 1 a minute instead of 2?

idk what ur really saying tbh

[hard ivy]

the machines will just back up with frames and produce 5 instead of 6?

[cursive phoenix]

im new to satisfactory so yeah\

[upper gale]

I'm not understanding it either but pretty sure it can be solved with smart splitter

[cunning glade]

Underclock 1 too make 1 less?

Unless I misunderstood but that's what I would do

[hard ivy]

you don't need to underclock anything. the machines won't produce what you aren't using

[cunning glade]

I mean need too

No but then u get that nasty yellow light

[cursive phoenix]

my question was how do i take that one frame away and get it somewhere else

[cunning glade]

And aren't being efficient

[hard ivy]

then you need a smart splitter

[cursive phoenix]

when do u unlock those?

[cunning glade]

And that's not the fiscit way

[tame comet]

Caterium in the MAM

[cursive phoenix]

fml

[cunning glade]

Should be able too if u have smart plating made

[upper gale]

Once the side using 5 fills up, the extra 1 will go to the overflow direction

[hard ivy]

MAM Caterium tree whenever you want

[cunning glade]

I normally get them around there

Smart plating and ai limiters normally get automated one after another

[cunning glade]

Cat tree blade runners?

[hard ivy]

blade runners are in the quartz tree

[cunning glade]

Ah that's right

I don't remember I just know there the best

[cunning glade]

I'd do a lot of mam stuff if u have a gun or the xeno basher

Especially the quartz tree if u haven't

[upper gale]

"Why can't I get over this 4m foundation? Oh yeah I don't have bladerunners yet"

[cunning glade]

Run around explore find hard drives too there goated

[cursive phoenix]

I am rn but i cba

So annoying finding new ores

[cunning glade]

No it isn't?

U scan and walk towards them?

Well b hop if u have blade runners

[hard ivy]

you can use SCIM if you just want to get them faster

[cunning glade]

If u have coal power u should go explore

[hard ivy]

or cheat in the HDDs without exploring. or AGS all alts

[cunning glade]

I automate all the basics get coal power and then explore massively

Best way too do it tbh

[upper gale]

Whoaa there buddy slow down 😹

[hard ivy]

I did that when often when I cba to collect HDDs

[fallow urchin]

INEEDTOKNOWIFSATISFACTORYWILLBEONGAMEPASSORATLEASTBEONCLOUDGAMINGIHAVELITTERALLYJUSTFOUNDTHISOUTANDMYEXCITEMENTISIMMESURABLE!

[upper gale]

It does get tedious

[true mulch]

no info about that

[hard ivy]

especially when you're on your 10th playthrough collecting the same drives

[upper gale]

The 10m wait on every scan

[fallow urchin]

I'm surprised you were even able to read that. But thanks.

[honest ridge]

what should i go for in tier 4?

[hard ivy]

everything?

[fallow urchin]

Yes.

[upper gale]

This question was asked recently
And I had said faster belt
Don't remember what the other person said

[honest ridge]

sorry the question mustve been too complicated for you

what should i go for first in tier 4

[fallow urchin]

Idfk. That's why I said yes to the original question.

[honest ridge]

so whats the point in replying? let someone else answer it

[hard ivy]

I always rush mk3 belts asap

[fallow urchin]

Uhhh... For the Lols ig? Idk.

[true mulch]

as in milestones or items or

[cursive phoenix]

is there any way to make ur conveyor belt go straight down

[sullen gull]

Whatever you want dude. There is no right or wrong way to play. Just do whatever you feel best and stop being a twat to others on the internet maybe?

[true mulch]

conveyor lift? lol @cursive phoenix

[hard ivy]

no? that's not how conveyors work. but there are lifts for exactly that

[honest ridge]

sorry how am i being a twat?

[sullen gull]

Take a look at the milestones, decide what you are lacking to build the factories you want, and enjoy

[true mulch]

automate motors and encased beams before taking on tier 5, and don't forget to make parts for the elevator

[cursive phoenix]

thats whaty i meant mb oops

[true mulch]

R for reverse mode, if that's what you're asking

[small notch]

Hello 👋

[upper gale]

Here's what happens in this server
"Guys, which option should I do? 1 or 2?"
Everyone's response: "Just do 3?"

[broken valve]

im at this step, how many motors/mins you think is enough ?

[true mulch]

"I'm going to run into oncoming traffic, should I stand in the left or right side of the road?"
let's see your answer

[small notch]

I just did 5 a min for personal use plenty imo

[hard ivy]

like the milestones are so cheap I don't even have the concept of going for something "first". I just unlock fkin everything and automate whatever I need for the next milestones

[true mulch]

I personally made 10

usually, the ballpark of 10 of any resource should be enough for building, with some exceptions ofc

[sullen gull]

People seem to think there is some "master key" on how to play this game. There isn't. You take a look at whatever your options are, and just progress how you as an individual feels like progressing. Then, when someone doesn't give them the answer they want, They go all karen or ken ... smh

[broken valve]

ok ok i didnt want to make a whole new factory just for motors

[hard ivy]

meanwhile I went insane with 30

[cursive phoenix]

omg im stupid, i dindt realize you could drag conveyor lifts. lol

[sullen gull]

As has been said before, there is no potential for being locked out of or not being able to complete every piece.

[true mulch]

counterintuitively, making new factories might be easier than distributing intermediate parts https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[true mulch]

I could've gone for 30 if I wanted, but I wanted to be done with it just to progress, there are untapped iron and copper nodes nearby to support that in the same location

[shrewd raven]

Nah I finally got back into the game nearly finished tier 2 and when I go to build an actual factory I lose all motivation

[hard ivy]

I totally didn't spend like 1500 iron on it lmao

[small notch]

How do you make production lines on that satisfactory tools website I can’t figure it out I just use modeller

[broken valve]

For the space elevator parts do you guys use a factory for each one ? i was making mine with my personal storage of builing materails but i think i need to change this

[shrewd raven]

Or just use the good ol pen and paper it’s what I do

[small notch]

Fair enough lol

[hard ivy]

just type in the output you want? and then turn recipes/machines/resources on/off. like it's literally easier to use than modeler

[shrewd raven]

Also I’m still low-key confused about that purple bean that’s in the weird forest like…why

[small notch]

Yeah if I tried enough to figure it out probably but I personally like modeller

[true mulch]

the first two or three with temp setups

[sullen gull]

Modeler is not hard to use at all. Only "hard" part is maybe not knowing the recipes 🙄

[small notch]

Is it weird I find modeller easier to understand than anything else

[shy mulch]

So I probably shouldn't admit to my 103/min 😒

[hard ivy]

I complete all phases with handfed factories. the only exception is copper powder forP4 and P5, which does get temporarily automated

[hard ivy]

for personal use?

[small notch]

103 is mad

[shy mulch]

Oh, no. My bad. That's in total

[broken valve]

ok thats what i did. Small building for the parts wich was fed by my main storage, but if i continue like this its going to deplete all my stuff

[shy mulch]

You hardly need any motors for personal use

[small notch]

Is mk3 miner phase 4?

[true mulch]

tier 8

[shy mulch]

Can you share what exactly the difficulty is with Tools? It's literally 100x easier than Modeller. I'm really confused why some people just don't seem to be able to use it. What are you trying to do and what problems are you facing?

[sullen gull]

They are used for quite a few buildables.

[upper gale]

Tools is nice cuz it's easy to edit something in or out. Remove or add alts, machines, resources ect. I haven't tried modeller cuz well tools is already doing everything I needed

[true mulch]

except for manufacturers, refineries, blenders, oil extractors, ...

[small notch]

Idk I just don’t understand all the recipe selections and that I turned on the recipes I want and it didn’t use them, I just personally prefer modeller

I’ll try it again when I’m on next

[true mulch]

modeler charts are completely unreadable when shared

[upper gale]

The basic recipes are on one side and alts are on the other

[shy mulch]

I just checked, I'm making 3 per min. Only time I ever remember running out was when I was building 600 fuel gens

[hard ivy]

oh, nah, in total I was in the 200s in one of my past saves. at 60-80 now, but haven't even completed P4 on my 1.1 save yet. the 30/min I mentioned was exclusively for personal use in my current save

[true mulch]

interesting, but proves how little you actually need to progress through the game
people tend to overbuild a lot

[small notch]

What rocket fuel and turbo fuel recipes u guys use?

[shy mulch]

I think there's a misunderstanding with what tools is for. You don't choose what you WANT to do. You tell it what you have available and what you want to produce, and it tells you the most efficient way.
Tell it what resources you have available (everything on the map is set by default, reduce it if you want), what recipes you have available (all standard recipes are default, tick alts if you have them) and what buildings you have (all are enabled by default, untick ones you don't have)
Then tell it what you want to produce, and it'll show you the most efficient way to do it

[hard ivy]

that's because Tools uses the most resource efficient recipes. if you enable a recipe that's worse than the one it's currently using, then ofc it won't use the new one

[upper gale]

Might just have to mess around with it a bit more and then you'll understand

[hard ivy]

imo it's always best to enable all recipes you could have at that point in the game. not the ones you actually have. because you could be missing a great recipe and not actually know it

[small notch]

Ahh i did not know it picked the best recipes and the best ways to make it I’ll have to give it a try it sounds good tbf.

[shy mulch]

yeah I agree

[small notch]

I’m ngl since I first used a manifold I’ve not used a load balancer since I just manifold everything

[sullen gull]

Firstly, its personal preference/level of understaning imo. Tools is fine for when you don't know what recipes you want to use. It sucks imo because it's purely based off the pretence that one is calulating everying from world resources. Also, it's layout or flow diagram (not sure the correct name) leaves a lot to be desired. Lastly, it's a heck of a lot more of a pain, and not as intuitive, on making multiple factories and 'easily' 'connecting' them all together. The SC's calc is only 'better' in the since it seems 'easier' when when trying to 'automagically' calc things with over clocking.

Modeler is plan manual with an automatic calulator. MUCH better layout and factory management abilities than the other two options. Ability to utilize those 'stackable' blueprints and, again to have things contained, yet really easy to connect inputs and output between them. Also now does auto rounding for when your 'plan' calls for 13.2 machines, etc.

[hard ivy]

I've used all of them in the past. depends what I'm making and where

[sullen gull]

The very last bit that I think may be part of it, some are just upset because the modeler author wants nothing in return. They are working on the program purely for the enjoyment of the community imo.