satisfactory

[cunning siren]

So much planning desired

To try to avoid having to re-do stuff

[regal lantern]

You should get comfortable redoing stuff

[zenith pecan]

You're wanting to actually build underground?

[regal lantern]

At some point, you're going to need to scale

Look at my 256 coal setup, scaling up from some puny amount of coals using non over clocked MK2 miners

[unkempt blade]

yeah! YOBO!

[regal lantern]

Awesome shop sells walls, sink some stuff

[static bramble]

i mean how to hide in a good way all the floor with the belts

[static bramble]

i tried but i dont find how to make something look good

[unkempt blade]

don't redo stuff, just remember ABAB instead

[static bramble]

what is ABAB

[cunning siren]

One plan is to do as much work as possible in blueprints so its simpler to remove it if I want to 🤔

[unkempt blade]

all builds are bad

[static bramble]

🤣

[zenith pecan]

Your logistic area does look quite thick, my approach literally moved logistics under the map and into a tunnel network as shown here #screenshots message

[rustic hare]

not sure of the general scene, but on my 1080p setup, it's gpu bound

[static bramble]

how did you do

this look awesome

but for me personnaly i like to keep thing as vanilla as possible without exploit or anything

[zenith pecan]

Here's a primer, hoverpack is a requirement as is patience in punching through the floor repeatedly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc9T_ZlDv68

No mods, just base game.

[unkempt blade]

Even with a great CPU you're going to see the tick rate go down at some point for a certain save size/build amount. I think higher end GPUs can basically crank the settings all the way up and it'll run though

[static bramble]

thanks

i dont have the hoverpack yet tho

im still going trough phase 3

[zenith pecan]

For logistic level without the whole building tunnel networks, I'd recommend reducing their height to one or two walls, one sec, I'll find an old video I have with that solution.

[blissful atlas]

What is the average playtime for 1 playthrough (finishing all elevator phases)
Currently at 80hr about to finish phase 3 in another 10 or so hours feel kinda slow pace rn

[wise junco]

all pacing is unique in this game particular to your playstyle, and also i think you're doing fine

[static bramble]

yeah i made them a little too higher, thanks bro

[zenith pecan]

One approach could be to have glass floors and the belts visible, here's a logistics pit #screenshots message

[zenith pecan]

Here's my primary solution #design-and-architecture message , the belts run through frames under the floors of the varying factories.

[unkempt blade]

the save I did for 1.0 was around 110hr I think when we shipped the last package but I did a decent amount of vanity projects and decorative stuff too

but I'd already completed the game in U6 and U8 so I had some practice

[blissful atlas]

Ye spent easily the first 40hr just getting used to the game mechanics etc

[solid storm]

Anyone know how to get the flashlight working when using a xbox controller?

[blissful atlas]

Building and rebuilding factories also took q Abit of time ig

I think I've rebuilt my copper factory like 3 times alr

[coral glacier]

@static bramble Concrete :) #screenshots message

[peak wasp]

morning, pioneers

[wise junco]

mernin

[static bramble]

ill try something like that

thank you

[static bramble]

what ? u mean wall ?

[coral glacier]

yes

[wise junco]

wow, I really slept on blueprints for a long time

[zenith pecan]

One use for the blueprints for me is this, a selection of light arrays embedded in glass foundations, which I can then build in-line with roof/floors instead of the 10x10 monstrosities that are irritating to line up : #design-and-architecture message

[wise junco]

that's super cool!

[zenith pecan]

You can see here #screenshots message , this place has the white lights embedded into the ceiling spaces.

[dapper seal]

I wonder if the devs will ever add binoculors to the game

[rustic hare]

photo mode -> scroll is the closest ig

[dapper seal]

I like the coffee cup and all, but a pair of binoculars would be great too

[dim flint]

You can see so far.

[coral glacier]

What if.......

👩

[glad drum]

WHY can the Chainsaw ONLY use Solid Biofuel?!

[wise junco]

imagine shoving the solid biofuel angrily into the chainsaw

[white dawn]

Essentially just development prioritization. The ideal time to have changed it was when they updated the jetpack to have configurable fuel, but clearly they never got around to it

(That plus the only real downside to only taking solid biofuel is needing to spend an inventory slot on it, which isn't a big deal with the Depot nowadays)

[glad drum]

That is fair - I hope it's switched at some point... I got liquid biofuel and it seems silly I gotta carry around solid just to collect more leaves and wood

[zenith pecan]

It would have been nice to be able to use regular petrol in the chainsaw though, easy to automate.

[winged basalt]

Wait a minute

That doesn't make sense

How does a chainsaw run on solid biofuel?

[leaden turret]

FICSIT HR: Pioneers want something to deal with plants
FICSIT R&D: We made a chainsaw powered by the plants you cut down
both: high fives all round

[leaden turret]

@glad drum wait until you notice the chainsaw does zero damage to something that isn't a plant

[winged basalt]

I already knew that

They said it before in the dev commentary

[rustic hare]

you guys still use chainsaws?

[winged basalt]

They said it was too violent or something to make it do damage

[zenith pecan]

Not a big issue in the long term, I use nuclear fire for vegetation clearance insteads of the chainsaw, more automated #screenshots message

[winged basalt]

They probably collecting the material from the trees

[leaden turret]

: uses only solid biofuel
community: "does not make sense"
also : does zero damage to non-plants
community :"seems legit"

[shrewd palm]

i am oh so close to just giving up on trying to fix this factory

heavy oil/fuel pipes are being weird because im not make enough plastic/rubber, but im not making enough plastic/rubber because there isnt enough heavy oil/fuel

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac reminding you that you work for a company with staff that both:
a) said this
b) can't play any multiplayer game without engaging in pvp even when it's a co-op game

[zenith pecan]

Could you open a #1038092680493801533 thread and add pics and/or video to show us the layout, we'd be throwing random and often unhelpful solutions due to guessing otherwise.

[rustic hare]

I really thought I could chainsaw down mobs when I unlocked the thing

[zenith pecan]

I tried that when I first got the chainsaw, got my clock well and truly cleaned 🤣

[winged basalt]

Gore mod when?

[shrewd palm]

i'll try but im not even sure if that'll help ngl

[winged basalt]

Tried that on my teamate when I first got it

[shrewd palm]

i've tried everything i can think of but im starting to lose sanity over this thing

[zenith pecan]

It could be an imbalance somewhere or when I did an epic fail at bauxite processing that was a vast example of this doesn't work, the best we can to is take a look and see.

The refinery failure is shown in all its ugliness here #1379199612908474409 message 🤣 , took some patience from our regulars looking at my train wreck in slow motion before it was finally fixed 😄

[shrewd palm]

yeah im working on the post now

[uneven chasm]

when will the hub stop blaring this awful music

[upper gale]

In 2 weeks

[zenith pecan]

You can turn events off in settings if I remember correctly.

[upper gale]

Options > gameplay > disable seasonal events

[uneven chasm]

thanks a lot

[zenith pecan]

Speaking if which, it's not all that long until ficsmas comes back around and the monolith I have in the dunes wakes up to make snowballs again by the thousands.

[glad drum]

I know, right? It doesn't even have LEGS! insert laugh track

Please don't ban me.

[glad drum]

I noticed that immediately, unfortunately. I feel like once you get a chainsaw in a game, you try to chainsaw EVERYTHING. The more things you can chainsaw, the better game it is.

Hell, they should make those explodey rocks chainsaw-able but just have it take A LONG TIME.

Make it so you can chainsaw nodes for ore too

[leaden turret]

chainsaw would go blunt

[glad drum]

Ah, the perfect excuse to make a chainsaw-sharpener factory! (or a Chainsaw factory for new chainsaws)

Automated Chainsaws when?

or maybe a Totally-Not-A-Super-Sledge Sledgehammer to go along with the chainsaw for POUNDIN'

[blissful atlas]

wld be cool for a jackhammer of sorts to remove rocks too (even those currently non removable ones)

[feral geyser]

explosive rebar/nobs

[blissful atlas]

ye i get the explosives but a straight up jackhammer wld be nice since personally games with chainsaw for wood usually comes with a jackhammer for rocks etc. just me maybe

[white dawn]

Yeah, agreed that it'd be nice to be able to swap, even if there's not much functional difference to using different types

[shrewd palm]

#1415871122670358550 message here it is if you want to have a go

[wise junco]

Is there a way to remove groups of markers from the map? I see where you can show/hide the entirety of all markers, but not individual subcategories

[noble topaz]

how do train signals work 😭

[trim vine]

670 hours from start to end of phase 4

680 to win the game

No hand feeding
Everything automated
~600gw power

[violet oyster]

So, I bought satisfactory 6 weeks ago, And now I have 255 hours. I thought i'd try have a break and play something new. So I got BL4. 30 minutes in, the performance is so bad ive refunded it and already back making Heavy Modular Frames.

BL4 seems to have the same frame output as my factory, About 10 per minute.

[dense violet]

oh, border lands.

[deep solstice]

I was thinking Bloodborne doing a blood level 4 run.

[main topaz]

Signals break the rail up into separate segments known as blocks. Only one train can be in a block at a time.

[noble topaz]

can you show me where i have to place them based on my setup?

[main topaz]

You generally place them before and after a station, before and after intersections, and then spread them out along lengths of rail. You'll want to space them at least as long as your longest train.

You'll want to mostly use block signals and then use path signals for a train where it will enter an intersection.

[feral geyser]

Two block signals on the same side of a track will create a "block" between them. Only one train can occupy a block at any given time. If another train is approaching an occupied block, it will wait until the block is clear to proceed.

[noble topaz]

#screenshots message

hope yall understand that

[dense violet]

do you have more than 1 train on this system?

[noble topaz]

yeah

black is one, white is another

[dense violet]

your biggest issue is that then. You have a bi directional system and don't really get how to build it

[shrewd palm]

the signals break the paths up into blocks, and there can only be 1 train per block
block signals are fairly basic and do only that
path signals allow there to be multiple trains in a block so long as they dont run into each other
and then everything else is what nalathi said, something to keep note of is to keep the same distance between blocks before intersections so that your trains can go through them at full speed

[noble topaz]

well

that didnt take long
#screenshots message

[dense violet]

well yeah. Doing bidi systems is annoying even when you know what you're doing

build two lanes

[feral geyser]

☝️

[noble topaz]

i dont wanna :(

[shrewd palm]

it will pay off

[dense violet]

then find some videos on bidi trains. They are massive pains in the ass though

and a lot more work

[shrewd palm]

2 lanes is the way to go if you want any kind of train system going across your world

[dense violet]

also less throughpout as it'll slow down all your trains

[noble topaz]

i dont really care all that much about thoughput or if my manufatures are running the whole time anyway

[dense violet]

sure but it'll get worse with every train

also your trains are crashing so you're getting zer othroughput

[main topaz]

Parallel one direction rails are a bit more effort to build but are much easier to signalize and much easier to start running more trains on.

[dense violet]

that's... basically the opposite of reality

[feral geyser]

I see what you're trying to, and it may be doable.

But it would be easier to redesign it

[dense violet]

or do you mean by one direction, 2 lane train lines?

[main topaz]

A rail that only allows one direction

[dense violet]

cause then, sure. But also not much effort to build with BPs, about the same amount. Especially with auto connect now

[feral geyser]

Well, if you look at his breakdown, each section only allows one direction of travel.

[dense violet]

straight lines

[feral geyser]

Straight lines are circles with a center at infinity and infinite radius

So they are still circles

[noble topaz]

is everything a circle?

am i a circle?

[feral geyser]

Circles all the way down

[noble topaz]

this is the satisfactory version of the bucket question from stanley parable

[feral geyser]

There is a flaw with your design that can deadlock it though

[noble topaz]

anyway i fixed it for the time being (kinda) by setting the time they stay at the station without loading or unloading to 1 second

[feral geyser]

Imagine a train comes in on the black line, and while it is unloading, a train comes in on the white line and goes into the loading/waiting loop. The one on the black line wouldn't be able to leave the station cuz the loop back to its line is blocked, and the white one couldn't enter the station cuz it's full.

[noble topaz]

i could also fix this by just removing the white train, and having the black train do the white train's stuff

[feral geyser]

You could

[noble topaz]

since thats the easier solution

im doing that

[feral geyser]

Are they both bringing the same resource?

[noble topaz]

no, but they arent using the same platform

[feral geyser]

Ah okay

[smoky nimbus]

just make 2 lanes.

[noble topaz]

again, i dont wanna :(

im too lazy to do all that

[smoky nimbus]

you're going to get fucked over later in the game if you intend on doing anything else with your train line

[plain gate]

building a one way train line is the same idea as a conveytor

it can't do anything else

[smoky nimbus]

please just make a 2-directional train network and expand it as-needed, trust me
it is SO convenient when you need X, but its far away, but since you have a worldwide train network its no sweat at all

[dense violet]

it's less work. You're being so lazy you're doing more work.

or stop going on about it. either way

[dense violet]

there's 1000 threads in #1038092680493801533 that go on about how to do this if you really want.

It's very annoying. Go look at those

[smoky nimbus]

if you don't set yourself up for the future in this game you're going to suffer

[dense violet]

eh , future proofing is also a fools game, but two lane rail is very very useful and easier

[feral geyser]

I do respect the dedication to monorail though

I, too, use bi-directional trains/tracks, and they can be a bit touchy.

[wary perch]

Wouldn’t it be cool if you could put different solutions in your coffee cup instead of only coffeee

[rose lotus]

can one adjust the maximum travel range of the pump head lift indicator

I have a long pipe with a fairly shallow grade and so the indicator animation stops well before the actual elevation limit of the pump

leaving me with zero hint as to where the actual limit is reached

[dense violet]

follow the pipe backwards, find the last section that is full full. Put a pump at the start of that pipe section

this is one of the many reasons to not run long pipes

[rose lotus]

the pipe is not that simple

[dense violet]

that's the second problem you have, keep your pipes simple

how are you doing a not simple very long pipe though?

[rose lotus]

https://i.imgur.com/uFjQUP0.jpeg

[real dagger]

without context, yes or no

[rose lotus]

another perspective https://i.imgur.com/vGZZXw2.jpeg

[real dagger]

need to make a decision

[dense violet]

"follow the pipe backwards, find the last section that is full full. Put a pump at the start of that pipe sectionfollow the pipe backwards, find the last section that is full full. Put a pump at the start of that pipe section"

[rose lotus]

except the sections are very long and no section is entirely level or entirely sloped

hell they are not even monotonically increasing

I used the curved build mode

[dense violet]

that's why you pick the pipe that is FULL. Meaning it's below headlift the whole way. AND put a pump at the start of that pipe section

and or build your pipes more neatly.

this is a small mess

[rose lotus]

there is a second problem

there is an alpha spitter down there

meaning I cannot spend more than a couple seconds next to the lower areas of the pipe

[dense violet]

drop bombs on it

[rose lotus]

is there a way to respawn him later?

ie "reset" the spawn point

[dense violet]

have a powered machine nearby

[rose lotus]

as if there was no infrastructure nearby

[rose lotus]

other way around - I want it to behave as if there was nothing nearby, so he respawns

the oil extractor will prevent it otherwise

[dense violet]

unpower your oil extractor.

this is a binary choice

have a powered machien and stop spawn points or don't have a powered machine.

[stray herald]

Got 6 Turbo motors per minute!:D

[prisma thicket]

Where do I find saved photos again? From in game photo mode I mean

[dense violet]

#faq should be here

[feral geyser]

Yes

[distant badge]

If the you can't find the folder listed in the FAQ, you can open the game, boot photo mode, and at the bottom there will be a button for opening the folder that the photos are sent to. You can track it down that way.

[coral glacier]

Tip:

Don't stress about making things perfect the first go, make it work, then refine the design.

And that takes a long as you want it to.

[coral glacier]

Me when i find a mercer sphere:

[real dagger]

aight, imma dupe some spheres

[feral geyser]

I changed my mind

[stray herald]

Phase 5, still doesn't have automated (building) wire 💔

[dense violet]

there's hundreds on the map? just use a save editor, jesus

[real dagger]

im not duping forever, im really in the flow but ran out so imma dupe 3, use them, then delete 3 next time I go exploring

there are very few left anywhere near me

[dense violet]

the game does force you to spread out

[outer scarab]

builds virtical tower of death

[dim flint]

Whelp. I've got my baseline depot factory operational. All 35 parts I planned on making are being fed into the depots at the appropriate rates.

[shrewd palm]

huge

[real dagger]

what Im trying to do right now but ran out of spheres lol

[dim flint]

Do you have a good rocket pack?

[real dagger]

ive got all the equipment I could need, just dont wanna get more right now

[dim flint]

I find running around with my rocket pack to be pretty enjoyable.

[outer scarab]

I use rocket pack as my safety net for if I fall

Though the addition of solid fuel for the rocket pack is so huge

[dim flint]

solid fuel?

[outer scarab]

solid bio fuel

can be used by the jet pack

[dim flint]

Why would I use that over rocket fuel?

[outer scarab]

b/c you get it early and by the time you have rocket fuel you have a hover pack?

[dim flint]

Hoverpack isn't good for exploring.

[outer scarab]

it's perfect for it, just drop power lines

[dim flint]

w.e man

[outer scarab]

When you go exploring and pick up CPUs you bring power with you too

[drowsy kelp]

If i’m going with power lines i’m just going to power tower + zipline

[dim flint]

No I don't

[smoky nimbus]

i don't even want to start aluminum...

[dim flint]

Though early game I did a lot of ziplining.

[drowsy kelp]

You’re mostly out of danger and the power’s there if you really need it

[stray herald]

LMAOO I just shipped a train of COOLING SYSTEMS instead of FUSED MODULAR FRAMES because the storages were right next toeach other...

[outer scarab]

yah zipline exploring is really hard... not recomended

[drowsy kelp]

Shipped it to where

[outer scarab]

China

[dim flint]

I mean, ziplines are how I collected all the geo on the map.

[drowsy kelp]

Eh? You can zipline miles with one click, you can go almost vertical

[stray herald]

It sucks with the poles but once you get the large power towers it's beautiful

[outer scarab]

you have to build the poles first?

[smoky nimbus]

just use tubes

[drowsy kelp]

Do you know what a power tower is

[stray herald]

It's like only 1KM out but I filled up an entire train's worth and I won't even use them there xD

[outer scarab]

do you know what exploring is?

[smoky nimbus]

ziplining for exploration is worthless, just bhop

[dim flint]

Ziplines are faster uphill, unless you spend the time to build accelerators like you need to with hypertubes.

[smoky nimbus]

the almighty ladder

[drowsy kelp]

You can just like… stop ziplining mid-zipline if there’s something interesting

[outer scarab]

how would you explore with hypertubes?

[dim flint]

Not if you need to bring power for geo anyway.

[drowsy kelp]

Or crash sites

[smoky nimbus]

biomass burner

[outer scarab]

there are some crashes that take 20 bio burners

[drowsy kelp]

Kinda hard when it needs a bajillion watts

[dim flint]

Honestly, I almost quit this game because I was sick of walking around. Then I unlocked ziplines and I was hooked.

[outer scarab]

no one said to walk

[smoky nimbus]

the almighty blade runners and rocket fuel

[dim flint]

I'm gald you don't get it right away though, helped me appriciate the scale of things.

[drowsy kelp]

Blade runners are amazing

[outer scarab]

they use to be easier to get too

[smoky nimbus]

ziplining is useless when you can go 5x the speed by crouching and hitting space with bladerunners

[outer scarab]

glad you can wear blade runnera and a jet pack at the same time now

[drowsy kelp]

But that takes active attention

[outer scarab]

you use to have to hot swap them

[dim flint]

Not if you don't have good rocket jets and want to get on top of stuff like I did.

[smoky nimbus]

i thought we were talking about exploring

[dim flint]

And the fact you can afk while you travel allowed me to multitask.

[smoky nimbus]

if we're talking about transport ziplines are just garbage

[drowsy kelp]

Yeah i guess…

[smoky nimbus]

use a hypertube cannon

[outer scarab]

or afk hypertube

[dim flint]

I mean, I already needed to connect power, so it was just really nice that it also let me travel for free.

No need to build a hypertube.

[outer scarab]

They should have time skip trains. Get on a train with destination, appear there instantly with time skip

fast travel

[smoky nimbus]

fly through the air for 30 seconds or zipline for 3 minutes

[dim flint]

No

[smoky nimbus]

❌

[dim flint]

I mean, for long distances now I use portals.

[drowsy kelp]

One downside i discovered when using power towers to ascend into the unknown is you have no idea what’s up there, on an unrelated note elite gas stingers are terrifying when they fly at you at mach 10

[dim flint]

Hypertube cannons always felt too hard to aim for me.

[smoky nimbus]

the elite gas stinger when i send it tumbling off of a cliff

[smoky nimbus]

this is quite literally a skill issue

i have never had an issue with aiming hypertube cannons

make one cannon for the four cardinal directions

[drowsy kelp]

It pulled out an uno reverse card and i was the one who ended up dead at the bottom of a cliff

[outer scarab]

reminder that the original way to travel was a Mk5 belt and a jet pack

[dim flint]

I mean, without mods you only get so many angles to work with...

Or maybe not... but still

[outer scarab]

i will never trust mods again

[smoky nimbus]

you only need 4 cannons to go anywhere

[outer scarab]

I lost a 2000 hour map to mods

[dim flint]

Then you have to actively steer.

[drowsy kelp]

Ouch

[dim flint]

Meanwhile trains and ziplines you can hop on and AFK.

[stray herald]

Are these indestructible?
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1415911026779619529
I can't nobelisk them

[drowsy kelp]

Chainsaw

[outer scarab]

some items in game are indestructable

[stray herald]

I hope these are

[outer scarab]

I once found a tree you could get infinite wood from because chainsawing it didn't destroy it

[smoky nimbus]

ts why you make backups 😭

[stray herald]

I'll try

[smoky nimbus]

i'd rather steer for 30 seconds than wait 3 minutes to reach my destination

[drowsy kelp]

That sounds like really bad lag

[outer scarab]

I have the save file but it crashes on load

[dim flint]

I only really use mods that aren't required to make my save functional.

[drowsy kelp]

I remember a backups folder somewhere, it saved my save from deletion because little brother found computer

[outer scarab]

I still use a bios password

[drowsy kelp]

I don’t know how often it backs up

[heavy pine]

Alrighty, got a single machine building synthetic power shards. No more slug hunting for me.

[smoky nimbus]

real

[stray herald]

They won't go 💔

[dim flint]

That's next on my list.

[drowsy kelp]

Hmmm… then i guess it is indestructible

[outer scarab]

try to build around it or hide it in a wall if you have to

[smoky nimbus]

but... the illustrious 100%

[dense violet]

nah, no exploit bs pls

[smoky nimbus]

cannons are a feature now??

[drowsy kelp]

What counts as 100%

[outer scarab]

hypertube cannon is cannon

[smoky nimbus]

you cannot seriously call a cannon a bug anymore

[drowsy kelp]

Physics exploit?

[smoky nimbus]

its been merged into a feature

[dense violet]

it's an exploit, that was fixed and then people bitched and bitched and bitched about it.

[smoky nimbus]

would've been fixed a long, long time ago

[dense violet]

it was fixed.

[heavy pine]

Already got all the slugs in my last run. ((Almost typo'ed that as "sluts", and that would be a much different factory game.))

[smoky nimbus]

😭

[heavy pine]

Only 5 power shards per minute, but it's not like I'm constantly burning through them.

[dim flint]

not yet...

[smoky nimbus]

have you tried fully ocing and looping a encoder yet?

[drowsy kelp]

and looping a what

[heavy pine]

That'd probably use like 10% of my whole power grid. I still need to get nuclear power going.

[dim flint]

Ionized fuel also.

[smoky nimbus]

late game machine

[dim flint]

Which is mostly just for the rocket pack, but still.

[drowsy kelp]

i know what it is, what does looping mean

[smoky nimbus]

somersloop

[dense violet]

just go explore and get hard drives or something. Or plan a new factory while more are made

[drowsy kelp]

slooping sounds better

[smoky nimbus]

expanding train lines has to be the most miserable part of this game

[unkempt blade]

free yourself, come to the factory cart side

[smoky nimbus]

rs

[limpid cairn]

It’s the best part of the game

[scarlet storm]

any train experts feel like helping me with attempting to plan out my 2 lane railline? just have a simple loop rn that only goes between 4 diff factories and feel like it's quite inefficient and i need to upgrade but just dont know where to start. made a bunch of blueprints to make the track easy but idk how to incorporate the 2 rail lines instead of one

[limpid cairn]

I love building trains

[smoky nimbus]

send screenshots of what you mean in dms twin

[dense violet]

there's really not much to it. Plan where your factories are, then zoop some foundations along the path you like until you like what yo usee

[unkempt blade]

just add more trains, don't overthink it 😄

[limpid cairn]

#1038092680493801533

[meager patrol]

How do you start to build factories at the constructor with 4 input conveyors its starting to feel more annoying than anything at this point

[dense violet]

you mean manufacturers?

[meager patrol]

Yes

[dense violet]

just like every other factory really. Plan the whole thing out into groups.

you can feed them with 4 manifolds

[meager patrol]

Having to manage 4 different belts efficiently is getting annoying

[dense violet]

sushi feed it then

[unkempt blade]

make a blueprint for it if you don't like adding them all every time

[glad drum]

Spaghetti.

But for real, vertical conveyors to align all the conveyors then use the stackable poles

[meager patrol]

What is that

[dense violet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/941374033650413578/Screenshot20220121-09075200000.png?ex=68c44de3&is=68c2fc63&hm=3bc6a166f6acc4269309aa492766adbb9e783c49d2b9249792fe8e7be68e17ee&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=309

[meager patrol]

So basically second floor for manufacturers than first floor for like conveyors?

[stray herald]

40 REFINERIES to make 250 copper powder 💔

[dense violet]

an option but not much different from doing 4 regular manifolds

[scarlet storm]

use the stackable conveyor poles and have belts go across them and bring it down into the manufacturers w lifts

[glad drum]

Either way - depends on the style you want but I do find the lifts help with making everything tidy

[meager patrol]

Rn my stuff is super bad its everywhere and its at the point where i’d have to basically rebuild everything

[glad drum]

I like having them go up and over the manufacturer

[unkempt blade]

this is all crazy talk, manufacturers clearly call for a cartifold setup

[dense violet]

did you bother to look at the image? just 1 belt can feed them

[meager patrol]

And its just annoying and making me not wanna advance

[meager patrol]

Yeah i never thought of that

[dense violet]

once the system is balanced you can remove the sink too

[meager patrol]

Are those just smart splitters?

[dim flint]

Only 14 if you use tempered.

[dense violet]

it's a bit less useful with recipes tha tneed screws or tons of wire. You might want to run a 2nd manifold for those items? but really up to you

[glad drum]

That is pretty cool

Personally I like load balancing but that's a really satisfying looking manifold

[limpid cairn]

i can give you my design for inspiration if you want

[meager patrol]

Sure

[dense violet]

but for most Manufacturuer systems, most of the 4 belts will be running mucher lower than their max throughput anyway

[stray herald]

Tempered copper ingot? I don't think I have it but I got 15 drives

[unkempt blade]

Screwless recipes? That seems like a recipe for disaster!

[meager patrol]

I think rn i should just rebuilt and make it clean looking (ish) at least cause rn its horrible storage containers everywhere random belts etc

[dim flint]

Sushi belts make working with prior splits difficult though because they cannot back up.

[dense violet]

go alloy copper. It's real good

[glad drum]

I just unlocked Manufacturers so I'm 100% gonna have wild sushi belts to feed em now

[heavy pine]

#screenshots message An example of how to use manufacturers.

[meager patrol]

Where should i make the base ? Where is the meta spot?

[dim flint]

It uses sulfer, which I'm not generally a fan of using. But it's very space efficent.

[stray herald]

Oh

[dense violet]

... for?

[stray herald]

I can feed 4 accelerators with that!

[meager patrol]

General stuff

Main crafting only not power or anything

[glad drum]

Okay I have an idea but I'm in bed and can't test it... do belts make trucks/tractors/carts faster when driven on top of?

[dense violet]

no meta spot. Too many recipes, too many output options

[dim flint]

Yea, with alloy it's only 15 refineries.

[meager patrol]

Hmm

[dense violet]

the east swamp has some of everything not far off?

bout as good as it gets. But you can't make shit tons of any one thing. Or even TONS of everything as... well it's only one spot

the game is very good to force you to spread out

[glad drum]

Also can factory carts actually auto load and unload goods

[outer scarab]

yes

[dense violet]

it's a spot that is fine. but not particularly great for any one method or goal

[dim flint]

lol, @dense violet blocked me for some reason. WTF could I have done 🙁

[meager patrol]

I could send a screenshot of crafting base right now its pretty bad you are gonna look at it and be like wtf

[glad drum]

Don't suppose you know if driving them on belts makes them.faster do you

[meager patrol]

My fuel plant is really nice its super organized and etc than that is just ☠️

[dense violet]

that's fine. Just progress through the tiers until the end.

then you can play like a sandbox to build what yo ulike

[meager patrol]

Yeah this is my first run since like 2019 i played it for like 10 hours and it was pretty rough back than but now its pretty fun

I just gave up and what i did when i was newer was so bad i kind of gave up on trying to make it look nice

[limpid cairn]

#screenshots message

[feral geyser]

lol were you being "tedious"?? 😭

[dim flint]

I have absolutely no idea. I don't troll, so I'm a bit confused.

[feral geyser]

they're a bit of a pillow anyway, so i wouldn't worry about.

[limpid cairn]

people use the block function on discord?

[outer scarab]

some people do yah

[sour vessel]

i certainly have

[glad drum]

I've tried but it's pretty lukewarm in it's effectiveness on servers

[mighty zinc]

I have made my first automated Tractor Run!

It's not that long. Mainly picking up and dropping Coal to fuel both my tractor and steel production

will try to make a video about it

[limpid cairn]

are there 2 bio coal recipes?

[feral geyser]

biocoal and charcoal

[limpid cairn]

i somehow got bio coal twice

even tho i unlocked it already

also theres 3 alt recipes for coal

ah one is with sam

[feral geyser]

two of them are late-game Converter recipes, then there's biocoal and charcoal

[scarlet storm]

anyone know how to get a small concrete pillar to run diagonally

[feral geyser]

press R, get diagonal or freeform mode

[scarlet storm]

default and zoop are only options apparently

[feral geyser]

oh, my b, i was thinking about the round concrete beam

[limpid cairn]

guys, do i convert my excess oil into hor (with the alt recipe) and then into fuel to create rubber with fuel and plastic?

is there a way to see how much rubber i can make with given inputs in satisfactory tools?

[dense violet]

limit the input oil and then maximise

[feral geyser]

you can turn 600 crude into 900/900

[limpid cairn]

i only have 450 oil

[feral geyser]

then 3/4 of that = 675/675

also, you should turn the resins into rubber instead of plastic to start thing, cuz you get more out the residual rubber

[tall plover]

literally clocking in at 7:45 AM for Satisfactroy on the first day of my vacation

[wicked grove]

yall idk if im doing my calculations right, if im using mk5 belts (480 per min) and i have assemblers that produce 25 compacted coal per min, and i have refineries that need 15 per min, i should be able to route about 19 and a quarter assemblers to 1 belt and it should fuel 32 refineries right?

[feral geyser]

mk5 belt is 780, mk4 is 480, which one?

[wicked grove]

shi mk4

[feral geyser]

480/25 = 19.2 so yes.
480/15 = 32 so yes.

although i recommend breaking it into lower speed "batches" so you don't have to deal with the effects of manifold

like, 6 assemblers feeds 10 refineries

[wicked grove]

yeah thats what i was thinking but idk why i was trying to do 1 belt per assembler

[feral geyser]

and that require just barely more than a mk2 belt

[outer scarab]

there is no half wall, right?

[feral geyser]

like, 4m long instead of 8? no

[outer scarab]

i guess i can overlap :/

[feral geyser]

that does work

[cunning siren]

The new mount points on lifts is pretty dang handy

[outer scarab]

the best change IMO was there is no longer an inside and outside wall placement

that was so annoying

[feral geyser]

except with frame walls

[outer scarab]

no i think they are centered

[feral geyser]

i sent a picture of what i mean in #screenshots

the only difference is the rotation

[outer scarab]

is that the framed window?

[limpid cairn]

guys i need help

when i have 2 inputs of a fluid

[feral geyser]

no it's the frame wall

[limpid cairn]

and one comes from above

[outer scarab]

what is a framed wall?

[limpid cairn]

do i put a valve on the bottom input or do i just keep it clear?

[dense violet]

show what you're doing in #math-and-meta ?

[outer scarab]

is framed wall a mod?

[green fiber]

No valves needed usually

[feral geyser]

part of the AWESOME Shop set

[outer scarab]

i dont see a frame wall in the game

oh its not a wall wall

thats why

[feral geyser]

oh yeah, it is in Architecture

[outer scarab]

its part of the block thats why it cant be centered

because if it was it wouldnt line up

[feral geyser]

right, i figured, i just wanted to point out that that one does still have inside/outside placement

[outer scarab]

yes, true

i find it hard calling this a wall though

[feral geyser]

i mean, it's in the name 😭

it identifies as a wall

[outer scarab]

yah its just... a bad name

[feral geyser]

wow, so you're wall-phobic

[outer scarab]

i noticed they name a lot of things Frame

[feral geyser]

cancelled

[outer scarab]

there is a "Wall Frame" and a "Frame Wall"

[feral geyser]

there's not?

there is a Frame Window

[silk ocean]

You can buy drives at the Awesome Shop xD

[outer scarab]

cool

I think you can only buy the 1 though? I could be wrong

Haven't bought them in ages

[silk ocean]

As many as you like

If you have the tickets xD

[hasty lion]

is there any way to turn off that… wonderful music in the hub? Please…..

[outer scarab]

audio settings?

[dense violet]

settings , turn off events

or just walk away. The sound drops off like 5m from the hub.

[stray herald]

Settings -> Gameplay -> 'Gameplay'

[hasty lion]

doesn't count as "music"

[silk ocean]

Options -> Audio -> Music ?

[hasty lion]

I'll try that, thank you

[cunning siren]

Geting acustom to all the changes in the last year 🤔 seems like they fixed a lot of stuff

[silk ocean]

Sound Effects? xD

[hasty lion]

ye ik but I just started a new savegame and have to be at and in the hub very often haha

[outer scarab]

Yah the blueprint fix is what is making me want to play again

[cunning siren]

Vertical nudge and unlimited nudge! ❤️

[outer scarab]

eh, i used objects to nudge for years, im use to it

[scarlet storm]

is there a blueprint button or do i have to click like x and then click the tab everytime

[dense violet]

put them in your hot bar

[outer scarab]

Posted in design, but trying to make this roof look better

[scarlet storm]

they all look the same hahaha need to change the icons ig

[outer scarab]

the fact you can put letters or numbers on the blueprint icon is stupid

[silk ocean]

It's just labels?

How do I make a blueprint that's 0.175beta2? xD

[outer scarab]

what?

[silk ocean]

CopperPowderVersion1.274ConstructorEditionRecipe

[outer scarab]

idk what you are saying

[silk ocean]

This? xD

Admittedly Icon

[outer scarab]

you can? How?

[silk ocean]

Using the keyboard? xD

[feral geyser]

You said it?

[cunning siren]

T key allows finger guns though! Glad that has priority over blueprint key 😆

[feral geyser]

Fuck sakes

[outer scarab]

tf you talking about?

[feral geyser]

I ain't gonna spread falsities

[outer scarab]

you just did

[silk ocean]

There are a row of numbers or the numpad xD

[outer scarab]

in the Icon?

[silk ocean]

On the keyboard, the bit above where you type words xD

[outer scarab]

Your options are Buildings, Parts, Equipment, Other

what words?

[feral geyser]

Zatie is fucking with you

[silk ocean]

Words like hello and I love my life

These kind of words

[outer scarab]

Zatie are you an idiot?

[silk ocean]

Most probably

Don't worry, I am unoffendable xD

[true mulch]

I wish there was a way to quickly toggle whether sampling a building copies the recipe too

[feral geyser]

There is

Oh, not to quickly toggle

But you can turn it off in the menu

[true mulch]

Yeah I don't want to go all the way into settings

[stable berry]

Can someone tell me how can I copy and paste a recepie and overclock from 1 machine to other witout opening the machines window ?

[true mulch]

It breaks my habits, I rarely ever use the build menu

[feral geyser]

You could always just select the building from your hotbar

[true mulch]

Ctrl+C Ctrl+V just while looking at it
I strongly recommend rebinding it to something like F5 F6

[stable berry]

Mousebuttns work too ?

[feral geyser]

Technically yeah, but dont do that.

[stable berry]

The side ones

[true mulch]

Probably, if you have enough buttons

[stable berry]

Not the left and right

[silk ocean]

Console peasants are going to have a nightmare 😈

[stable berry]

XD

[true mulch]

I have copying on mouse 4 and lock hologram on mouse 5

Copying on mouse 3 made me scroll accidentally too often

[limpid cairn]

#stopmakinggamesforconsole

[feral geyser]

well what's this then, peasant?

[true mulch]

I've always been of the stance that this game will be terrible to play on a controller

UI heavy building game with precise aiming to build things straight

[stable berry]

I tried the game on the ds5 I quit trying after 5 minutes

[last jackal]

I'm surprised it even ran for 5 minutes.

[true mulch]

I couldn't slide jump on a controller xddd but that's due to lack of practice

[stable berry]

The game was running on my ps just connected the controller to try

pc *

[feral geyser]

Even games that are "made for gamepad" (Stray) are better on mouse and keyboard.

[stable berry]

The only exception if you ask me is elden ring

[last jackal]

There's some argument to be made for souls-like games. Those are better with controllers imo.

[stable berry]

YEAH

[feral geyser]

Never played em, so idkm

[stable berry]

You should

[true mulch]

Then that's just you preferring to play on KB+M. I pick up a controller for platformers or story games

[feral geyser]

Not my style

[silk ocean]

Didn't CSS say on the stream, nobody has completed it using a gamepad xD

[severe plover]

is there actually any use for all my animal remains or should i just turn them all into animal dna and sink them?

[last jackal]

Playing with the controller is just a matter of habit.

And actually using a good controller that has things like gyro sensors.

[stable berry]

Thats the use

[feral geyser]

Sinking mainly

[severe plover]

ohh okay

[true mulch]

Turn them to DNA, use sloops on both steps to get 4x as much

[feral geyser]

You could make inhalers, or worse, biomass

But why would you do that

[severe plover]

forgot sloops existed

[true mulch]

Don't forget to sloop power slugs, to get 2x as many shards

[last jackal]

If you finished researches. You could make some inhalers.

Take a breath when you're bored.

[severe plover]

i did consider it because im taking alot of damage but i realised i can just make the rifle instead of using melee

will save all my remains for now and then sink them when i actually need it

[feral geyser]

Also inhalers from berries or mycelia is better

[last jackal]

Using consumeables for the sake of using consumeables is fun in Satiafactory.

[severe plover]

most of my stuff is in the desert so i haven't had much access to berries

[limpid cairn]

Tbh if I think about it it’s not even that bad, some games are made for mobile but have pc / console support

[civic ferry]

Hello

[severe plover]

man i love beryl nuts

[last jackal]

I mean... biofuel is fun.

[true mulch]

They should put Geometry Dash on console and see controller sales skyrocket

[limpid cairn]

Do you have the jetpack unlocked ?

[stable berry]

Hey having all architecture unlocked is cool

[feral geyser]

Liquid Biofuel, sure

[severe plover]

ya

[last jackal]

Hey, I just like making biofuel for the sake of making biofuel. Cover the world in green containers.

[limpid cairn]

Craft liquid biofuel

[true mulch]

Liquid Biofuel is much better out of combat than Fuel

I mean both Turbofuel and LBF are better, each in their own way

[last jackal]

Compared to fuel it's a direct upgrade... so... yeah?

[limpid cairn]

I disagree, it’s also better in combat since you can stay in the air significantly longer

[severe plover]

will probably skip lbf

just go straight for turbofuel

[true mulch]

Depends what you're looking for really

[feral geyser]

I forgot about all those, I've been spoiled with ionized for so long in my world.

[limpid cairn]

Are we allowed to breathe the same air as you?

[severe plover]

i have pretty good infrastructure around the world with hyper tubes so i rarely need to fly far or high

[feral geyser]

I'm wearing a mask, it's fine

[stable berry]

Whats liquid biofuel better for

[last jackal]

If you like using the jetpack a lot. Especially for hovering around or exploring. It's arguably better than turbofuel as it has significantly longer burn time.

[scarlet storm]

im on phase 4 still dont have turbofuel hahahah

[stable berry]

Never crafted it

[last jackal]

Jetpack go burrr.

[feral geyser]

Super long burn time

[limpid cairn]

Let me guess it’s a gas mask with expensive filters so you don’t have to breathe the same air as lbf users ?

[severe plover]

haven't even finished phase 3 yet here 🤣 been procrasinating for so long

wanted to automate everything i can before i start making phase 3 parts

[stable berry]

Take ur time

[scarlet storm]

dont think ive even researched it, how do i do that lol

[stable berry]

Space elevator

[scarlet storm]

no to get turbofuel

[stable berry]

Ah

[scarlet storm]

anyone on YT you guys would recommend watching while you play?

[stable berry]

You research sulfur in mam

[stable berry]

I like kibitz

[last jackal]

Josh.
No unironically yes. :P

[feral geyser]

3blue1brown

[stable berry]

Yeah josh is also fun to watch

[feral geyser]

You didnt say it had to be a satisfactory player

[stable berry]

But I cant I mess up my world if I watch him

[limpid cairn]

imkibitz is fun to watch but he’s kinda maniac so you’ll get an impostor syndrome feeling from it

[stable berry]

Whats that supposed to mean ?

[limpid cairn]

the impostor syndrome feeling or that he is a maniac?

[last jackal]

Josh is pretty much the reverse impostor syndrome.

As in how can one make everything so outrageously messy but so much.

[stable berry]

Impostor syndrome *

Im slowly becoming like him xD with the megaprojects

[last jackal]

It's a real psychological term... yes? Consider googling it for the full explanation. But basically one can end up comparing themselves to such large builds and be discouraged to progress.

[limpid cairn]

Impostor syndrome is basically when you feel like youre an impostor in a group, for example you think everyone is better than you so you think you’re the impostor since you’re not as good as them

[stable berry]

Ahhhh

[last jackal]

Basically "they make such great beautiful things, but all I make is a square orange box of a mess."

[stable berry]

Thanks for the explanation but Idk I get the urge to do same megaprojects when I watch him

Idk it fueles me or motivates

[last jackal]

Basically don't chew off more than you can swallow.

[limpid cairn]

Fandom is still on top when I google metal plates satisfactory
(Using chromium if that’s important)

[stable berry]

Hey you can always do it bit by bit

I have 3 megaprojects that I hop from 1 to another

[stone python]

if you do it bit by bit, you can eventually get to bytes!

[severe plover]

genuinely hope fandom burns in a fire

[last jackal]

Me? I don't give a shite. I love building nosense. Conveyor belts in the sky. Rails through the terrain. Scaffolding to weird places.

[severe plover]

such an awful website

[grim ermine]

How do i stop playing satisfactory

[last jackal]

You pick up a new fun game.

[stable berry]

Have you ever tried leauage or factory

Factorio

If satisfactory is cocain than those 2 are crack xD

[severe plover]

overwatch 2 is pretty good right now, better than peak overwatch 1

[grim ermine]

I completed factorio many times. Satisfactory is just so Satisfactory I cant stop playing it.

[stable berry]

Try leauage then xD

[stone python]

now why would you do this to someone

[stable berry]

You will regret but wont be able to stop

[limpid cairn]

|| 1. you press escape to go into normal mode

2. you type a

3. type wq if you want to save the changes, type q! To force quit

4. press enter ||
   

[stable berry]

Beacuse someone did it to me

[limpid cairn]

I hope yall get it

[boreal musk]

overwatch? more like, overrated

[limpid cairn]

Me when I purposely spread misinformation on the internet :

genuinely still feel hatred towards blizzard for cancelling the pve mode

[stray herald]

Just got my first particle accelerators running https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1415959421980512347

[severe plover]

i never really cared about pve but the game is genuinely in the best place it has every been right now

[stray herald]

3 nuclear pasta made, 997 remaining

[limpid cairn]

You mean you only made 3 so far right? Not 3 per min

[stray herald]

6 made, 994 remaining

[stray herald]

Nah 1.5 per minute

[limpid cairn]

good man

I was about to say

[stray herald]

Copper shortage

[limpid cairn]

Sam can create copper

[stray herald]

If I can get more copper I can feed up to 9 accelerators

[limpid cairn]

💀

[stray herald]

HOnestly I can just go somewhere and get more copper

I didn't feel like expanding my railroad track

[stable berry]

Just make a new one

[stray herald]

So I settled for 900 copper + iron

[hard ivy]

Pure copper would've given you more ingots

[stray herald]

40 refineries tho 💔

[hard ivy]

And? I've got like 1200 in one of my past saves

[stray herald]

wdym

I think there's only one recipe?

I am using spare materials from other factories to make pressure conversion cubes

[stray herald]

Satisfinery 😭
I honsetly would have but I was so not feeling like it

You boil the cubes and fry while adding powder

54 Rocketfuel generators

I also have a 19GWh emergency battery

[true mulch]

Depends which pages

Fandom came up for the Alpha test weekend

[limpid cairn]

overclock?

[stable berry]

Whats the max per min drone can carry ??

Oh my bad

I didnt place them yet

[stray herald]

An option, but can'tbeat 6 foundries xD

Now I gotta figure out what the hell dark matter residue is

[stable berry]

Don't know where should I place em until I figure that out

[hard ivy]

Depends on distance and fuel. Anywhere between 0 and 5 stacks/min

[stable berry]

So I have to place a test drones to see the rates ?

[hard ivy]

Actually, I should probably amend that to 0-4, because I've never seen a drone do 5 stacks/min, even at 0 distance. Even though that's the theoretical max

[hard ivy]

Basically, yeah. It might be possible to estimate, but not perfectly accurately

[flint grail]

How do I download a mod that requires dependencies, like Redefined Power? One of it's dependencies isn't showing up in the Mod Manager

[stable berry]

Okay thanks ima do that now

[hard ivy]

If you're using the SMM app, it should download dependencies automatically

[stable berry]

Also since when did they change that only 1 drone can be placed per platform ?

[flint grail]

How can I verify that?

[hard ivy]

Pretty sure that has always been the case

[hard ivy]

By launching the game and seeing no "missing plugin" errors

[flint grail]

Mk

[limpid cairn]

space wont ever be an issue in this game

also refineries look badass when you place 25 of them

[hard ivy]

Wdym I'll never use up the 100 km³?

Sadge

[limpid cairn]

you can end up using all of 100km^2 if you want

[glad echo]

Has anybody experienced DLSS turning back on mid-session after being turned off in options? It seems to be happening to me on this new system and I can't figure out why.

[hard ivy]

Build a 15 TW power plant and then fill the rest with hypertube entrances to actually use up all of the power lol

[glad echo]

I'm not sure if it's Satisfactory or if it's nVidia's control software doing it.

[cunning siren]

Fused Wire seems... good?

[limpid cairn]

its more than good

if you are resource efficient and have a lot of space its the best wire recipe iirc

if you have too much catherium you can just use catherium wire tho

[boreal musk]

best wire recipe is iron wire cuz it use no copper

[limpid cairn]

erm actually 🤓 👆
you get more wire out of catherium wire if you only use smelters and constructors since
the caterium wire recipe gives 1.56 more wire than the iron wire recipe while using the same amount of recources

[dense violet]

it's fine? caterium isn't super common along the map though

iron wire is extremely convenient

[boreal musk]

caterium is just too precious for me to be used for normal wire

im using shit ton of quickwire for my ai limiter

[limpid cairn]

how much ai limiters are you making?

[boreal musk]

i dont remember how much, i think it was like 250-300/min

[craggy oar]

Why so many?

[boreal musk]

just for my electronic factory alone

not counting some for ecr

[craggy oar]

😵‍💫

[boreal musk]

cuz i like big build

[sturdy fulcrum]

daily reminder that a speedrunner somehow managed to complete satisfactory in 7 hours start to finish

[shy mulch]

Vim is a test. If you can't escape, you don't deserve to escape

[limpid cairn]

agreed

apparently its a super good tool IF you can use it properly

its like the high elo/rank of text editors

[shy mulch]

I love vim

[limpid cairn]

dont you need excell for your job?

[shy mulch]

tbh in my job I don't use vim at all, I do use excel almost every day, linuxy things are more of a hobby, I did in previous jobs and continue now just for fun

[limpid cairn]

sounds like youre an leet code expert...

[shy mulch]

I wouldn't say that

[limpid cairn]

btw are you an alumina expert ?

[craggy oar]

U what?! 🤣

[shy mulch]

I wouldn't use the word expert, but I have a perfectly functioning large scale alumina plant that worked first time, if that qualifies me then yeah ok

[limpid cairn]

can you split 3 pipes into 2 pipes without an issue?

[hard ivy]

Yeah just place 5 junctions in a row lol

Connect the 3 pipes to the first, middle, and last and the 2 into 2nd and 4th

Alternatively build a 2x3 grid

[green fiber]

3 into 2 sounds like merging them down

[limpid cairn]

I forgot to mention that the fluid rate is above 600 in those 3 pipes

That shouldn’t be an issue tho right?

[green fiber]

Be specific, not vague

[hard ivy]

As long as no single segment has to carry more than 600, it'll work

[green fiber]

above 600 if you add up all 3 pipes is what i assume because otherwise it would not make any sense

[shy mulch]

What is the flow rate of each of the 3 inputs, and what is the flow rate you need at each of the 2 outputs

[scarlet storm]

if im running a 2 lane train system with 4 freight cars on each train , and it is stopping at a station where i'm only picking up 2 or 3 materials, do i need 4 freight platforms? or what do i do there?

[leaden turret]

my brain reading this:

Luke Specific and Darth Vaguer

[green fiber]

Darth Vaguer my beloathed

[limpid cairn]

the 3 input pipes have 240m^3 per pipe

the 2 output pipes need 360m^3 per pipe

[shy mulch]

Any more of that chat and I'll have 7-11 assimilate you into the romulan empire

[shy mulch]

then yeah just have 5 junctions in a row, inputs go into junctions 1,3,5 and outputs from junctions 2,4, will be fine

if you have any problems, I'd be tempted to make a loop on the manifold, I find that almost entirely eliminates sloshing, I do it on most of my pipes and never have any issues

[green fiber]

Rare case where you can slap a limited valve on each output pipe if you want 360 exactly

[shy mulch]

probably not required but can't do any harm

[green fiber]

Else the flow in each one will likely oscillate somewhat

But that should not be an issue if you have enough patience and wait for the entire thing to fill up completely

[limpid cairn]

#screenshots message so like that basically?

@shy mulch each of my alu factory blocks does 420 water as a byproduct and needs 600 water as input, i need a water extractor that delivers extra 180 water per min right to make it flow perfectly right?

[shy mulch]

yep

I do a similar setup, but for mine I have the water extractors clocked a little bit more than needed, and use a VIP junction to prioritise the byproduct water, so the extractors run a bit lower efficiency as they will only produce the water that's required to fill the gap

[limpid cairn]

#screenshots message that is a vip junction that works right?

[shy mulch]

no, the junction needs to be vertical

[limpid cairn]

oohhh

[shy mulch]

I'll get a screenshot of my setup shortly, in a work meeting atm

[limpid cairn]

now it makes sense why my first alu factory didnt work

[limpid cairn]

dw take your time

[limpid cairn]

#screenshots message is that right?

[reef zinc]

Does anyone know if Block Signals are Bugged? After I complete making a loop with a section of track the "Correct" side for the block signal to be on flipped. So when I placed new ones down it wanted them on the right vs the left. I replaced all block signals to be sure it would work but I found that really confusing.

[limpid cairn]

the signals are bugged since 1.1

[reef zinc]

Good to know, did I need to fix them or was it fine as it was?

[reef zinc]

As long as it follows this guideline it should be solid #screenshots message

[limpid cairn]

so basically the priority pipe has to be higher than the other pipes at some point?

[reef zinc]

the priority pipe has to be lower

the extra pipe comes from above

sooooo if we hooked it up to an aluminum factory it would looke like this.... #screenshots message

[green fiber]

The safest VIP design is still the same one from the manual i believe.

The weld marks of the junction should be noted.

[reef zinc]

weld marks?

[limpid cairn]

mind sending it over?

[green fiber]

Its on the wiki

[reef zinc]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[limpid cairn]

[green fiber]

When you look at a junction, you can see "weld marks" on them
Those give you a clue as to what rotstion the junction is in

VIPs only work if those lines are horizontally aligned

[coral glacier]

I wish CSS had a metal plutonium waste container keychain. :(

[green fiber]

carry some around in your pockets for that nice warm fuzzy feeling inside ☢️

[leaden turret]

cc @open bone

[coral glacier]

What is "cc"?

:|

[limpid cairn]

content creator

[tall lantern]

carbon copy

[coral glacier]

ah

[tall lantern]

like when you cc someone in an email

[silk ocean]

Do you know what cc stands for xD

A fun fact

[obsidian zodiac]

creative cloud. used by content creators. CCCC

[silk ocean]

Close xD

[limpid cairn]

guys instant plutonium cells are better than the normal recipe right?

[green fiber]

Better in what way

[hidden sparrow]

Heloe

I do sure hope i didnt do some ungodly creations once again (aka building a wh40k hive city is this game)

[hard ivy]

Depends what you want

[green fiber]

Instant Plutonium makes less Plutonium Cells than default per Uranium Waste

[hard ivy]

Iess? It makes more

[limpid cairn]

was about to say

[hard ivy]

That said, more Plutonium is not what you always want

So when you want less, default is better

[green fiber]

Oh wait wrong bases

[limpid cairn]

im aiming to make ficsodium

[green fiber]

I used waste as a base

[hard ivy]

That still doesn't say anything about whether you want more or less plutonium

Arguably, the less Ficsonium it makes, the better the nuclear plant is

[green fiber]

18% more plutonium or whatever

[limpid cairn]

also isnt it better if you make more plutonium for less resources since you can use it for drones or other stuff, while still being able to sink it if you need

[hard ivy]

If you're making more then it's not less resources

[green fiber]

Just use the lesser amount you make to fuel whatever drone or trucks you may want

They use almost no rods to begin with

[hard ivy]

Max uranium → min plutonium makes 12.6 Pu rods/min. More than enough for drones

[green fiber]

Enough for 4200 trucks to run for 1 minute

[silk ocean]

Use trains xD

[green fiber]

Trains only use electricity.

BOOOOORING

[silk ocean]

Build powerplants

[green fiber]

BOOOORING

[silk ocean]

Trains good.. Trucks bad xD

[green fiber]

Boring opinion too

[hard ivy]

It's true tho

[green fiber]

Everyone knows that trucks are hard to use

[limpid cairn]

btw why is nuclear pasta not made with uranium?

[green fiber]

Because its only nuclear in name

Its neutron pasta

You can get those neutrons from anywhere you want really.

[hard ivy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_pasta

[silk ocean]

Trains are the best, Trucks are the worst xD

[green fiber]

Stop stating the obvious already.

[limpid cairn]

wait till mcl3 is here

[silk ocean]

mcl3 ?

[limpid cairn]

factory cart

[hard ivy]

A general formula for a metal trichloride

[green fiber]

Factory Cart Enthusiast

[limpid cairn]

i wonder if theres a mod that actually makes factory carts useful

[leaden turret]

makes more sense than a sushi belt enthusiast

[silk ocean]

Oh yes I forgot xD

[green fiber]

They are useful.
No fuel consumption

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=skatepark

[coral glacier]

mmmm Jason gimme Plutonium Waste Keychain. Stonks

[hard ivy]

Truth isn't always interesting

[green fiber]

Thats why im playing games and not building factories IRL

[limpid cairn]

@green fiber are pumps needed for the VIP junction?

[green fiber]

Im not here for truth im here for fun

[green fiber]

Better to just go with it

Instead of risking it

[silk ocean]

Nobody knows what CC means or did I miss it xD

[leaden turret]

Canadian Crêpes

[silk ocean]

Close

Carbon Copy

[limpid cairn]

it means content creator

what are you guys saying

[leaden turret]

Curry Club

[silk ocean]

From the old days where we used a sheet of carbon to copy the paper

[limpid cairn]

@shy mulch when are you back from your important meeting

i need those screens from your vip junctions

the manual is giving me too much of a headache

[green fiber]

How. Just scroll to page 16 or something it has images

Just build what you see in the image

[limpid cairn]

[hard ivy]

Mine: #math-and-meta message

[limpid cairn]

are mk2 pumps also useable or do only mk1 pumps work

[hard ivy]

I use mk1 because they're cheaper and a bit smaller

But I don't think it matters

What matters is that the head lift is the same

(I think)

[spice patio]

Mk1 Pump has 20m headlift.
Mk2 pump has 50m headlift.
Neither has flow limit, so are limited just by pipes on either side of them.

[limpid cairn]

the priority pipe should have a higher flow rate than the other pipes right?

[hard ivy]

Doesn't matter. Priority is priority

[spice patio]

Those pumps in default VIP are there just to reset headlift or something like that.
Aren't needed when doing custom VIPs, but those are much more finicky to build.

[limpid cairn]

nvm the non priority has no a 600m^3 flow rate and the priority a 0m^3 flow rate

[cursive totem]

i build on straight mode on foundations but it still ends up crooked somehow? #screenshots message

[hard ivy]

Classic straight mode. It's only perfectly straight if stretched between 2 already existing connections

[cursive totem]

sooo... pole first, then connect?

[limpid cairn]

i found the issue

[hard ivy]

But only if it bends. If the belt you're building is straight and you're just doing it in straight mode, the pole won't be crooked (I think). It only happens after straight mode has gone through a bend

[cursive totem]

yeah i noticed its always after curves

so like, do bends in default/curve mode and then straight after that maybe the easiest solution

[hard ivy]

Default mode makes the same bend as straight mode if the distance between poles is 2m in x or y so you can just do that most of the time

[limpid cairn]

I swear scim is so nice 🙏🙏🙏

[atomic crest]

Damn

[limpid cairn]

I don’t have to manually search every slug, mercer sphere, sloop or hard drive per hand

[atomic crest]

I really suck at building big things that aren’t purely machines and belts

[limpid cairn]

Same

[red sun]

what does everyone think of the new boombox tape

the fourth one is my favourite, friend of mine said "bro the melody is ass"

but that's why i love it so much, it's so goofy

[limpid cairn]

Haven’t listened to it yet

Will do when I’m home

[fresh dagger]

hey guys, just completed tier 3 and i just realised my whole factory is a mess. spaghetti/clip everyhwere, some parts i dont even have in reserve, and im lacking space etc. I also used long conveyors instead of trains for all ressources. Is it a good idea to delete absolutely everything and start fresh ? do i rlly need to use trains ? im kind of lost bcs theres so much to do all at once with aluminum etc

[rustic hare]

train or not is your choice, but I really like their looks, design, and sound, a well set up train network is really nice to have and easy to expand

start changing things you don't like one at a time, break the tasks down, don't try to tackle the whole big block at once

also space is plentiful in this world, I'm pretty sure you can find another area with plenty of basic resource nodes to build in

[lunar phoenix]

If you want to give it a different look you can go a couple ways; rebuild one at a time (not reccomendable), destroy it all in one go and rebuild from scratch or rebuild it somewhere else.

[cursive totem]

is it normal that the object scanner detects hard drives that i already collected? this is really messing up my exploration

[fresh dagger]

i see, but i feel like if i wanna bring all the ores to my base, it wouldnt be that much more efficient than a conveyor you know, and like calculating the exact items/min seems complicated with a round trip yk

[fresh dagger]

but should i like make 1 factory where i make everything, or like "modular" and bring the parts to my "base" only for the more complex ones ?

till now i basically "rushed" all the phases without bothering with design/efficiency but now its catching up, i dont see how i will craft phase 4 parts haha

(and why is there a birthday party in my hub?)

[unkempt blade]

if it's working well enough to give you items leave it running and just build a new factory instead. Just try to make each new factory a little neater. If you absolutely run out of nodes to use then build a new factory next to the one you want to tear down first then switch over the conveyor to the new factory and delete the old one.

[fresh dagger]

okay i see

[red sun]

i personally would take one factory down at a time and rebuild it. doing it all at once is going to be incredibly tedious

[fresh dagger]

i was kind of " attached" to this one spot like its my "base" yk which may be a dumb way to go about the game but yk

[red sun]

if you'd be left without a factory producing something while it's being rebuilt at least make sure you have a decent stockpile of that item if you need it

[kind glacier]

Why is there still no cool DLC’s 🥲

[fresh dagger]

but rn my factory is procuding almost only like the highest tier items i can make

[lunar phoenix]

I like both ways, It can be fun to make one massive building for everything, but when you need something new it can look like an eyesore. That why I would go with seperate factories that focus on specific aspects, you can make them as big as you want and in the late game I think it is really cool to have multiple different factories transporting goods by trains to a warehouse.

[fresh dagger]

i dont rlly have a reserve of like rotors or like plastic haha

[lunar phoenix]

What would you want as a dlc?

[unkempt blade]

It's really common for people to kind of overthink their existing builds and want to either tear it all down or start a new save so you're in good company. The main reason I think this is a bad idea is because you're restarting progresss from 0 and a lot of the progress stuff (research, MAM unlocks, hoverpack, etc) will make building clean factories MUCH easier to do

[kind glacier]

Expansion of the map

[red sun]

if they say "another map" i have my boxing gloves at the ready

[lunar phoenix]

DAMNNN

[lunar phoenix]

delete your message fast bud

[red sun]

you're on THIN ICE my friend

[kind glacier]

I don’t want a new map

[lunar phoenix]

What do you need as an expansion tho?

[fresh dagger]

ok i see guys thanks for the advice

[kind glacier]

Just additional territory

[cursive totem]

just make the terrain destructible, then make your own maps

[red sun]

good luck

[lunar phoenix]

Like the map is big enough, you can only realistically ask for it if you have fully built our your world.

[fresh dagger]

i think that im going to keep playing with my factory, create ssome new ones and complete phase 4 the same way i did the others

[rustic hare]

put a container before/after the station, hook 2 conveyors from the container to the station, but only 1 conveyor to to container, it acts as a buffer, and your train station effectively work as 1 belt/station, if the trains are lacking behind the belt speed, add more trains

[lunar phoenix]

Goodluck with it

[red sun]

i still have my boxing gloves

[fresh dagger]

and then get a big stock of building materials, then build a train network and do a mega factory

[lunar phoenix]

Calm down buddy

[lunar phoenix]

YES DO THAT!

and then I would end with a massive warehouse where you store everything till yuo need it

[cursive totem]

what are your ideas then

[lunar phoenix]

Not a map expansion

[fresh dagger]

the only thing i dont know how to do is like : getting a stock of parts that arent like high tier. for example if i calculate well, all my reinforced iron plates will be used for the next recipe. but how do i get a stock of them then ?

and if i stock them somewhere, what if it overflows yk

[red sun]

someone restrain me, i'm one "add a snow biome" away from throwing hands

[lunar phoenix]

Please dont

[cursive totem]

whats the issue tho?

[red sun]

golf

[cedar socket]

Add msnow biome pls

[fresh dagger]

isnt it like unefficient if i use like "too much trains", and that its not the exact number required for the ammount of item ?

[red sun]

the map is FINE

[unkempt blade]

if you've unlocked the smart splitter (in the MAM) there's actually an "overflow" rule. You'll overproduce those items somewhere and when the storage/depot space fills up for them you send the overflow to a sink and get points for trashing them

[red sun]

it needs not be touched

[cedar socket]

only needs snow

[red sun]

that's what ficsmas is for

no

[cedar socket]

does sjnow come in ficsmas?

[fresh dagger]

whats a good storage ammount. bcs concrete for example i might need way more than like heavy modular frames yk

[cedar socket]

like even on the floor?

[red sun]

you can make it in constructors which is good enough

[cedar socket]

bruh

[red sun]

next question

[cedar socket]

nty

i want real snow on floor where footsteps show

[unkempt blade]

Concrete and iron plates are usually the ones I need the most of but you'll probably just need to figure this out a little as a you go. Some stuff you need more of than others to build/decorate factories

[red sun]

black and white filter, dune desert

[unkempt blade]

if you're using blueprints or building huge factories you can blow through a lot of materials pretty fast though. It wouldn't really hurt to have a storage container of each thing

[cedar socket]

why dont u want snow😢

[unkempt blade]

the depot (unlock from MAM) has a few hundred items limit depending on how much you've researched it and that's often going to be enough for like heavy mod frames that you mentioned

[stable igloo]

will satisfactory ps5 have kyb+m support?

[red sun]

i'd be surprised if not with it being a pc-first game

[stable igloo]

im really excited for it to come to ps5 but hearing controller experience wouldn't be great as it's a UI heavy game

[unkempt blade]

I still need to get my xbox controller out sometime and see how it plays on the PC version. I just have such a difficult time believing the UI will work well for controllers with all my PC bias 😆

[red sun]

i've not experienced the game with a controller just yet but i've heard they've actually done a pretty good job with it