satisfactory

[gritty zealot]

im proud of you man

[naive orchid]

nah mk4 is cheapest

or mk6

[hardy thistle]

Hi guys, does anyone have a blueprint for making simple engines without any frills? Thanks

[dim flint]

what's a simple engine?

[naive orchid]

wdym by engines? constructors or anything

[spark oracle]

:3 i would bet your factories dont give people aneurisms like mine 🙁

[hard ivy]

since the last time you asked, you could've just made it yourself at this point

[gritty zealot]

They give orgams

[spark oracle]

😮

[naive orchid]

im a first time player and i think i finished phase 3 like 60 hours in

normal or no? ...

[hardy thistle]

Seriously? I thought you hadn't asked, sorry.

[spark oracle]

idk

[stray herald]

It's okay you can take your time it's about making things and having fun:)
Did you automate the assembly parts?

[spark oracle]

depends on how your factories lookk ig

im now on hour 133 first playthrough but I also move slow

[gritty zealot]

DAMN

[stray herald]

I just checked yours on #screenshots And idk about no aneurysms mine look probably worse 😭

[gritty zealot]

we got mr speedrunner over here

[naive orchid]

i dont automate assembly parts, i just automate them after i do every hub tier available

[opal ledge]

can someone help

[hardy thistle]

But I'm trying but I'm having some difficulty just for asking

[spark oracle]

the oil rig is an exception thats the one thing I really tried on

[naive orchid]

but i make most of my materials trough exploring, i automated sc before hmf :)

[opal ledge]

for some reason im not getting enough water into my coal gens i have 3 per 6

[smoky forge]

what exatly are you asking for, what "engine" do you mean

[naive orchid]

overclock?

or click "N" on the keyboard and you can start calculating

to see how much water you need*

[opal ledge]

no theyre running on 75% (water gens)

[stray herald]

Can we see the pipe layout?

[hard ivy]

check whether you're not overloading the pipes

[spark oracle]

how have i lived without the hover pack 😭

[naive orchid]

same bud

[stray herald]

As long as the concrete emergency fund is there you're golden

[spark oracle]

LMAO

[naive orchid]

but its a late game item, so no offense we all ask ourselves that

[spark oracle]

i love my concrete emergency fund

[opal ledge]

i got it off youtube and copyed exactly how it was layed out but i can only run 2 gens on each side without running out of water

[wanton sluice]

so got my friend into satisfactory, but as soon as he joins my server, he d/cs

[naive orchid]

i got 4 industrial storage containers of almost every basic item

[wanton sluice]

anyone willing to join my server to see if its just his problem not the server?

[stray herald]

Is it in the same physical location? Are the pipes going more than 10m high?

[carmine aspen]

Sandn'more coin

[opal ledge]

the water stays at about 198m and fluctuates

[naive orchid]

although i never automated iron plates in my world and im still rocking phase 8 of the hub

[stray herald]

Oop did they just release a patch? I quit my game and there's an update

[opal ledge]

yes and i have the pumps on them to extend the range

[naive orchid]

yea, #patch-notes

[stray herald]

Well in that case, @wanton sluice make sure you both got the new update. It just released

[opal ledge]

is anyone able to join my world and take a look this is all confusing to me

[wanton sluice]

this was before todays update. thikn that may help>? i dont understnad the update

[stray herald]

No hurt in trying

[naive orchid]

i automated almost every item and still not this lol

[stray herald]

I could also try to join you

[stray herald]

I added you:)

[opal ledge]

discord or steam?

[stray herald]

Steam

[naive orchid]

i got enough iron plates for life from my dismantle crate

[opal ledge]

mind if we can get in a chat??

[stray herald]

Sure! I am updating my game so give me around 5 minutes maybe

[opal ledge]

sounds good. im updating as well

add you on discord as well

[naive orchid]

what do i do next chat?
automate iron plates or
automate radio control units + turrbo motors

[spark oracle]

why are iron plates not automated

[void yacht]

oh my. when you are laying in bed a realise that you can make somthing better so you jump on just before work so you can get it done. no.....not addicted at all

[shy fog]

benchpressers united

[naive orchid]

i thought it'd be funny ever since i dismantled my old factory

now i got enough in the crate everything dropped

[hardy thistle]

I'm looking for a blueprint to make the engine

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/satisfactory_gamepedia_en/images/0/0f/Motor.png/revision/latest?cb=20200311142112

[smoky forge]

yeah what engine

thats a motor

[naive orchid]

ohhh

[spark oracle]

oh motors

brotherrrrr

[smoky forge]

yo wasup greeny

[reef basin]

honestly, I'd recommend making own blueprints, you learn things that way, instead of just copying other people's factories

[spark oracle]

also you wont fit a whole production line for a motor in a single blueprint

[naive orchid]

fr i actually made a blueprint finally which makes turbo heavy fuel (alternate) and plastic

[smoky forge]

theoredicaly

[naive orchid]

what i wanted to say

[spark oracle]

ofc ofc

[leaden turret]

best avoid linking to the ad-laden trashfire old wiki

[naive orchid]

yo ts tuff? #screenshots message or should i make storage better? this was my first blueprint i ever made xd

[gritty zealot]

horrendous

[spark oracle]

gues who got diluted fuel RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[void cliff]

Anyone play the game with a 32:9 or more specifically the Samsung G9 57”?

[dim flint]

How is it possible more people who play this game on steam have collected a power slug then have placed a portable miner!?

[hard ivy]

people continuing pre-1.0 saves

[naive orchid]

me :p

[spark oracle]

Less fucking go twin

[rare rivet]

does satisfactory have an in-game like creative mode?

[naive orchid]

and also sorry i was wrong about that 60h thing i have 90 hours

[naive orchid]

yeah u can create a world with advanced game settings

where u can do everything for free and give yourself anything

[dim flint]

I guess techincally you could skip ever using a portable miner too, it would just be a little nuts.

[naive orchid]

fym xd i never use them

[dim flint]

You just hand mined for a while?

[naive orchid]

yeah

[dim flint]

.<

[naive orchid]

i didnt even automate iron plates for most of my playtrough

[mortal ginkgo]

Mods. Yes. This is the madman. Get'im. He is mad!

[hard ivy]

insane behaviour tbh

[naive orchid]

i automated them for the first 10 hours, rest of the time i just took them out of the storage

[dim flint]

I mean, I hand crafted a lot of turbo motors tbf.

[placid stirrup]

How did you make anything that required plates?

[naive orchid]

wait you can do that?

[dim flint]

indeed.

[naive orchid]

i still got left more than 3/4ths of all the plates altho im pushing tier 8

[dim flint]

I originally hacked together a cooling system setup with some drones and then just went AFK building turbo motors by hand.

Not proud of it, but it happened.

[naive orchid]

life saver, gonna handcraft alla that too

[spark oracle]

Seems kinda stupid ngl

I mean you play how you like but that does not sound like fun

[dim flint]

This guy likes their hammer.

[naive orchid]

same, i js made some heat sinks, then i spotted that i can trash rubber by just making 30 unvigintillion cooling systems

[hard ivy]

why would you ever do that and not handfeed a slooped machine???

[naive orchid]

all i do is grind somersloops, that was probably like 2/3rds of my playtrough

[spark oracle]

Ayo?????

[dim flint]

Honestly, I didn't discover the sloop machine tactic until way too late.

[naive orchid]

rookie kinda

[dim flint]

Never said I was a pro 😉

I also played without looking stuff up for a while just to see how far I'd get on my own.

[spark oracle]

I’m glad I saw it in a tips and tricks video before I researched overclocking

I would’ve missed out on like 120 power shards

[shrewd palm]

I love how you can automate them now

You trade performance in exchange for nuking your power grid every time you build a large factory

[unkempt blade]

games are more fun that way the first play through at least

[hard ivy]

250% only consumes 34% more power per item than 100%

[dim flint]

Yea. You have so many more memories trying to figure stuff out and feeling silly when you were doing something dumb.

[kind tartan]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1414696941186449540 its prob eazy question for yall. but i have no idea how..

[shrewd palm]

Not entirely sure if you can tbh, the only rocks you can break are the cracked ones

And you do that with nobelisks or explosive rebar

[kind tartan]

ah i see. thank you

[kind tartan]

i found out and posted which cave "type" it is if that changes anything

[deep pier]

best use for turbo bass? if there is any

[hard ivy]

killing flying crabs

[deep pier]

goated

[odd hawk]

Hi Everyone - Is ANYONE who knows about train signals willing to VC with me for what I hope to be less than 2 minutes? To tell me what I am doing wrong - I've read and watched everything about block and path signals, and I understand but I can't get this damn y intersection to work 🙁

[mortal ginkgo]

Allows you to unstuck those weird tick like things so they can go away

[mortal ginkgo]

if its a path signal before a train that goes into a crossing, can you put that signal slightly backwards before the entry?

[odd hawk]

one sec

no 🙁

[mortal ginkgo]

what is the error you are getting?

[odd hawk]

flashing yellow warning signs, can they get more specific?

[mortal ginkgo]

you can click on them to see, press E I think it was

[odd hawk]

ohh shit no way

signal loops into itself

[mortal ginkgo]

it means your crossing is not finished, do the signalling after progressing on your rail system

what I mean is, continue doing the railing

[odd hawk]

it is done :/

[mortal ginkgo]

ok, use #1038092680493801533 to show screenshots of your rail setup

we need to see the section colors etc

[odd hawk]

will do thank you

[dull flare]

is it bad to have more stuff going into a pipe than coming out?

other than clogging of the inputting machine

[hard ivy]

if you're trying to use more than 80-90% of the pipe's capacity, it could theoretically cause issues due to the excess fluid reflecting of the end and flowing backwards

[dull flare]

ok ty

[vale grotto]

Huh wait am I stupid. The recycled rubber/plastic loop is way easier to setup than I thought. I just need to make a blueprint with 3 refineries, one feeding the other two, then loop the other two's output back to the first with priority

Why did I spend like 20 hours obsessing over a complicated feedback loop giant belt mess when I could have just made a tileable blueprint with 3 machines

[fluid bluff]

at best it's inefficient but tolerable (machine filling the pipes periodically stalls)

at worst it can deadlock something or starve you of a product (ie, Oil refinery can't make solid products because HOR is blocked, entire Aluminum plant stops working because the loop deadlocks)

[hard ivy]

the recycling loop is very easy if you do loops with priority splitters as outputs. I would usually build up to one belt total, but smaller loops would totally work too

[vale grotto]

Yeah I don't know why I didn't think to just loop back with a priority splitter. I gotta share screenshots later of the disaster I made instead lmao

[silk ocean]

Have some fun with Alu recyc, Princess of Vampires. Just keep it in the darkness. I recommend just south of the coral reef under the giant mesa. Good location for Vampires

Just don't use valves xD

[vale grotto]

Good advice, thank you xD

[vale grotto]

Oh I also gotta share my aluminum build. It's ....... something

[silk ocean]

Dark I hope?

[vale grotto]

Hol up I actually have a video of it somewhere because I was showing a friend at some point, could link that here somewhere lol

[silk ocean]

No silver involved would be ideal

[vale grotto]

I mean, there's absolutely no lighting except for the underside with the trucks so yeah it's pretty dark lol

[silk ocean]

Excellent xD

[vale grotto]

Can I link videos here btw?

[silk ocean]

#screenshots I guess

[vale grotto]

Aha! There's a videos channel, yippee!

[silk ocean]

I am expecting a lot of blackness, or Salma Hayek

Ever seen From Dusk Till Dawn, good movie.. mid 90's

[vale grotto]

I'll have to check it out!

[silk ocean]

It's good.. and it's Salma Hayek

You know....

Big boobs

and it's a good movie.. what can go wrong xD

[stark summit]

Peak in that movie. Maybe even... twin peaks.

[deep pier]

can we use drones to explore or are they like trains?

[silk ocean]

Neither? XD

[stark summit]

drones are really long kinda slow conveyor belts that require fuel, and you just set up point a and point b

[deep pier]

🙁 ggs

[hard ivy]

at that point you might as well use a hypertube cannon to uncover the map

[silk ocean]

Build a global train network and hypercannon with the jetpack

Here is the reality of trains

Go sick for a week off work

Spend a week building the rail network

... ... ... profit

Don't use trucks or drones for the love of your sanity xD

[small notch]

So for the diluted fuel canisters alt how you need canisters then get canisters back and I need 400 per min do I make like 600 and then have a smart splitter to sink overflow until it’s balanced out

This oil stuff is too complicated for my brain 😩

[hard ivy]

no, you blueprint a closed loop with canisters already in it and DON'T MERGE canisters from multiple refineries

[unkempt blade]

I hear bird flu is still going around and that can last at least a week or 2. That should be a good start on a train network

[small notch]

Would I put some extra canisters on the line to make sure it always has some

[silk ocean]

YES! There is nothing better than a pandemic to get a global rail network started xD

[green fiber]

you put a fixed amount in and it keeps cycling the canisters

works best if its one loop line per individual packager + refinery combo

[hard ivy]

you make a closed loop with the right the right amount already in it

[small notch]

Right I get it now thanks

[stoic oak]

Hi, Im returning player, didnt play since 0.5 I think (stopped before drones). I'm looking for blueprints or schematics for starter factory (Tier 1), which will produce all basic components and reinforced iron plates. Where can I find something like that? The days I played Nialus (quite known youtuber) had some nice blueprints but now I can't find on his confluence Satisfactory content at all.

[silk ocean]

You don't need blueprints for Tier <5 xD Just build the starter fac

[green fiber]

you cant even use BPs before you unlock the designer in Tier 4 (i might be wrong there tho)

[unkempt blade]

if you just want to skip ahead I'd use the advanced game settings

[small notch]

Pretty sure ik what it is but it’s this right #screenshots

[stoic oak]

No, I don't want to skip anything. A made a pause to enjoy game again after 1.0 🙂 And I don't want to build sphagetti factory at start. I can't progress when there is a mess 😛 It's probably some kind of spectrum, but I like it that way 😛

[shell badge]

Hello there, my game keep crashing everytime i load it like in 10 secondes, any ideas ?

[wooden mural]

welcome console players

[ripe basin]

Good day guys

Er-
I mean night

But who cares

[wooden mural]

will we expect 2.0

lol was about to play helldivers and i saw seaf

greeting fellow helldiver

[ripe basin]

Dont you see the flag on my pfp

Im the only automaton that doesnt want to hurt people

[wooden mural]

calls 500kg on your location

[ripe basin]

Why

I didnt do anything

[wooden mural]

for democracy of course

[small notch]

Only thing I could think of is if you have any mods installed that are incompatible that are bugging the game

[rustic pier]

Does radiation ever dissipate if you remove the ore rocks?

[narrow elm]

Hey guys got a question I’m just getting ready to start teir 7, how many heavy modular frames and modular engines should I be making

[hard ivy]

items generate a radiation zone around them. once they're gone, so is the radiation

[shell badge]

nope no mods, everything was working fine 2 days ago

[rustic pier]

Ah. I went through and removed the ore from one of the hdd locations and i was still radiated next to it.. must be a rock i missed

[small notch]

I’m not sure then but I’ll have a look to see if I can find anything

[dull flare]

what’s the most efficient way of looking for hard drives?

[wooden mural]

internet or scanner

[unkempt blade]

Super NES version when?

[silk ocean]

I think you need a Factory Cart to be honest

[unkempt blade]

all of the factory carts!

[silk ocean]

At least 120 carts to move Bauxite from the swamp. Take weapons xD

[plain gate]

map

[topaz coral]

is there a bug making items disappear instead of going into dismantle crates when the inventory is full? i just lost twenty five refineries worth of materials

[small notch]

Does the error message say smth like fatal error?

[rustic pier]

Lol nontech convoy

[cunning glade]

Chat I didn't make enough motors per min

Figured 2 a min would be fine now I need 83 fuel gens and have non😔

[silk ocean]

Yep xD

[small notch]

Only 2 a min 🤦

[hard ivy]

I'm making 30 😂

[cunning glade]

I didn't think I'd need that many

What all do u need for them I do have a factory I could have make them like what raw resources

[small notch]

Tbf I’ve had mine turned off to save power but uhh I might need them to setup up fuel

[rare rivet]

is there like a good ratio of items/m to train cars needed?

[cunning glade]

See after this I wanna do trains too

[steady glade]

not exactly

[cunning glade]

So I'm gonna need even more

[small notch]

Yh i wanna do trains to tbf there js cool

[hard ivy]

no. the transfer speed of a train depends on a lot of factors

[cunning glade]

I need 1245 motors which I did not have enough for

[small notch]

Get handcrafting

[cunning glade]

That's what I'm doing

[small notch]

Or awesome shop

[silk ocean]

You can offload like 12,000/min off a 5 yard, minus train per dock, like 7800/min xD

[cunning glade]

True I do have over 100 tickets

[small notch]

If you have surplus of other materials to sink

[hard ivy]

why would you hancraft anything after like tier 2???

[cunning glade]

Cuz I don't need many more

And after the fuel gens are setup I'll make a factory make more motors

Then do plastic plant then train everything around

Then I can finally start a hmf and computer factory

And then phase 3 stuff

[small notch]

Not looking forward to hmf 😩

[cunning glade]

I haven't even looked at them so

[hard ivy]

just don't use shit recipe and you'll be fine 🤣

[cunning glade]

Keeping it that way too not stress myself out

I think way too far ahead

[small notch]

Which ones the good one

Heavy encased frame?

[hard ivy]

the encased alt

[fierce granite]

learn how to use blueprints, that made HMF factory so much easier for me

[small notch]

Thought so

[shell badge]

I've loaded another world and it didn't crashed, I guess my save is corrupted (auto saved crash too), anyway to repair it without losing my world ? It's weird because it work fine last I played

[cunning glade]

Crashing how? And what GPU

[small notch]

Any crash report?

[cunning glade]

My game was crashing every 2-3mins before I switched between the game engines and it fixed itself

[small notch]

I find if big games like this start crashing cleaning out my pc helps a lot if it could be performance related due to save file size

[steady glade]

a freight car has 32 stacks, count the amount of items you want, time a round trip to move items and the decide how many freight cars per train you want (you can stay at around max speed with about 4 or 5 freight cars per locomotive), if one train inst enough, maybe add more

[cunning glade]

See I have 7tb so I don't have that issue

[shell badge]

I have an RX 9070 XT

[cunning glade]

Do wanna get another 4tb drive so I only have 2 ssds

[small notch]

You do not need more storage bro

I only have 1 tb

[cunning glade]

I'm on 7900xtx have u tried switching between the in game engines that helped me weirdly enough

[small notch]

Although I could get another ssd if I want

[shell badge]

how do you do that ?

[cunning glade]

U misunderstood

[small notch]

Update drivers potentially could help

[cunning glade]

I want 2 4tb drives so I only have 2 drives instead of 3

[small notch]

Oh mb

[cunning glade]

Cuz RN I have a 4tb 2tb and 1tb

[hard ivy]

I want a NAS

[cunning glade]

Cuz bandwidth is a thing I think

And I'm planning on having 2 x16 GPUs in my next build

[silk ocean]

Yes xD

[small notch]

W

[cunning glade]

I'm not gonna have enough inventory space for 83 fuel gens

[small notch]

I’m just running my 3060 and it’s going good so it’ll do

[cunning glade]

Well simple mod will fix this issue

Figured inventory slots would only be needed for blueprints

[hard ivy]

depot?

[small notch]

I’m only running of an impure node rn so I only getting 20

Depot annoys me for no literal reason even tho it’s good

[cunning glade]

Haven't really upgraded it and I still need another 2k copper sheets and 4k rubber or something

And I'm at the northern forest the oil plant is in the blue crater

[small notch]

Should I automate Sam fluctuater

[small notch]

Mines in crater too great spot

[cunning glade]

I just automated the first step

[cunning glade]

Ye I have 2550 oil a min

[small notch]

Dam

I’ll squeeze 5 gw out of 150 oil so it’ll do for at least an hour or two

[steady glade]

you need some for mam, it's gonna be less than a container, then you wont need more until end game

[small notch]

Alr might aswell automate it why not

[sullen gull]

One of the things about this game that I feel is not complimented enough, and that's the scale of the pioneer to MASSAGE-2(AB)b and the machines we build: #screenshots message

[small notch]

Not that expensive

[hard ivy]

with iron wire and iron pipe it's just SAM and iron

[honest summit]

for phase 2 the 3 parts that u need are they going to be always needed or just for the phase? in their description it says phase specifically so im just wondering?

[small notch]

Yh quite easy with alts

[hard ivy]

every part you need for one phase you need for all the next ones too I'm pretty sure

[honest summit]

alright thank yuou

[small notch]

I delete the space elevator parts auto if I don’t need them next phase personally. The ones for phase 2 anyway as there decently easy to setup

[hard ivy]

I don't automate them in the first place

[cunning glade]

So even with 50 extra slots I have 4 slots left fucking hell

[sullen gull]

Time to make a run to the sink 😏

[topaz coral]

okay i'm guessing there is bc it just happened again 🥲

[cunning glade]

No everything on me I need so I can make 83 fuel gens

I don't think I have enough space for 83 here hmmm

[sullen gull]

Check your map. There is a bug that places them farther than they need to be. You can adjust in settings

[sullen gull]

Do you use dimentional depos?

[cunning glade]

Not really my exploration friend hasn't been on in a hot min

So they ain't upgraded

I can do 30 gens a pipe tho

[hard ivy]

I wouldn't recommend maxing mk2 pipes unless you know what you're doing

[spark sky]

Does the inventory space of Dimensional Depots increase when you build more of them?

[hard ivy]

no, you get 5 stacks per item type at max upgrade and that's it

[cunning glade]

Why

[hard ivy]

multiple uploaders just give you faster upload

[hard ivy]

idk, ask the devs

I've never needed even 3 stacks of capacity tbh

[sullen gull]

I typically explore a ton as soon as I have Jetpack/LBF, and for every time, there is a ind container with a dd on top, setup to send overflow to a sushi sink line. This way, the dd always has every time one could need. and usually double/triple up on concrete and steel dd's.

[sullen gull]

Just more stable when you keep runs just under maximum. Things will flow better.

[cunning glade]

I mean fair idk how I'm doing it tbh there's so many gems just trying too figure out a good layout

[sullen gull]

But, as long as you distrbute flow, you're usually fine.

[silk ocean]

It's never too early to automate. It's in your blood now, FICSSIT employee

[cunning glade]

The pipes of fuel are coming down from the ceiling into the gens

My biggest concern is the oil flow rate but it should be fine

[sullen gull]

So long as you're pumping it up high enough to begin with, you should be fine.

[cunning glade]

Cuz now that u mentioned it that's exactly what I'm doing is maxing 4 MK2 pipes of oil

[spark sky]

So, if I've got the DD maxed out for an item, then a belt of that stuff going into a DD will stall until something pulls that item out of the DD, no matter how many of them I place.

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch cg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[hard ivy]

Yes

[hard ivy]

I hope you're getting a little more out of your 4 mk2 pipes of oil than just 83 gens?

[cunning glade]

No that's what the numbers tell me so

[rustic pier]

Cant wait till i can make nuclear power.. the fuel gennys are so blasted loud. Feels like my explorer is going to have hearing problems lol.

[hard ivy]

Do not feed multiple different items into one uploader. Or at least not as your main upload method for those items

[sullen gull]

@cunning glade Imo, the reccommended coal gen setups, in regards to flow layout, should be a good starter template for most anything that needs fluids. The biggest thing these setups teach imo is to distribute the flow. feed from both ends of a manifold first, then spread the rest through the middle for long runs, etc.

[hard ivy]

With the right recipes, one full mk2 pipe is 80 gens

[sullen gull]

This changes a bit when doing things when you start trying to recycle fluids, (aluminum....), but that's for a later day 😏

[spark sky]

Right now, I have only the DD access in my inventory, I have not actually built a physical one. However, many items I commonly use are maxed out (things like iron plates and rods, concrete, copper wire, etc.).

[cunning glade]

Well there recipes I don't have so womp

[sullen gull]

Another reason exploring a lot early on is very rewarding 🙂

[cunning glade]

Well womp womp

[placid stirrup]

A quest for the HOR!

[cunning glade]

Only other fuel I have is biofuel and I ain't trying too keep feeding the factory

[hard ivy]

the 80 gens per 600 oil number is with regular fuel

[cunning glade]

Huh

[sullen gull]

Are you talking about 80 gens on one straight manifold? Being feed from one end only?

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=OT66acfyUSaeIQhDP6Ij

or https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=I0HC2hrv84OBmvNPZ3mT if you have blenders

[placid stirrup]

That's a silly question

[hard ivy]

no, I'm talking about oil efficiency of making fuel

[fierce granite]

That is alt recipes

[placid stirrup]

"with the right recipes" is how they started that comment

[cunning glade]

Ah that looks like unfun I'm happy with my 83 gens

[sullen gull]

Ahhh, I see what you're saying now... sorry, still had pipes on the brain lol. But you're saying 600m3 oil > 80 fuel gens

[cunning glade]

Plus im assuming this will either get me too nuclear or close but we will see

Haven't looked at the end numbers

But with this and then a plastic and rubber factory I should be fine for power

[placid stirrup]

Don't discount geothermal if you're close

[cunning glade]

I hate having short headphone cables

My 3.5m one is on the way🕺

[cunning glade]

I forgot about this

But also true so I ain't worried I'm just having fun

The other one looks like a lot more work

[proud bough]

yay the servers back up

[faint flint]

Is there a server browser like factorio?

[static phoenix]

Chat is back yea

Finally

[true mulch]

there's #1201555265942724758, no public matchmaking or such

[shrewd palm]

this is more of a solo game imo anyways

[leaden turret]

I see discord's back up

[rigid mist]

Anyone else get an outage here

[proud bough]

everyone did

the entire server went down

[leaden turret]

@true mulch

September 5th, 2023 Livestream
Q&A: How likely is it to implement the EOS Lobby Interfaces to lighten the load on Discord LFG?
https://youtu.be/l_6mmqeuiUo

that is so much work and it's not worth it it's so much work it's just like not that many people would use it it doesn't warrant the the effort

July 2nd, 2024 Livestream
Q&A: Will there be a public server browser for 1.0, or will that come later?
https://youtu.be/SODkrcAthYU

at the moment we don't plan to do anything like that

[rigid mist]

Oh

[vital elk]

Yeah Discord is having outages overall

[hollow vector]

for the first time EVER i had to touch gr*ss

this is a terrible day

[shrewd palm]

i dont do that

[hollow vector]

lucky

[leaden turret]

irregular reminder that grass is where dogs pee
-# why you wanna touch where dogs pee?

[hollow vector]

i hate gr*ss enjoyers

[dim flint]

Does anyone actually use non-alt recipes for aluminum. They seem like the best QoL.

[unkempt blade]

I missed all of you very briefly while discord was being sad but at least I had my carts to console me

[leaden turret]

console release not out yet, how can carts console you

[hollow vector]

he is the cart.

[frail sleet]

Middle first is most beneficial

end is the worst possible place to feed from, it's just good enough if you have low flow rates or loads of other spread out inputs

[leaden turret]

🐛

[unkempt blade]

it's about time! I can finally live my dream

[sullen gull]

It's not if also going to be feeding from the middle. Flow goes both ways 🙂

At least, I should say not my my experience.

[hollow vector]

the pipe does not have 2 lanes

[sullen gull]

Liquids are more forgiving ... they like to hug up and share the space.

Though, so long as you're the same type in the instance 😏

[hollow vector]

what if one of them supports skibidi toilet

[frail sleet]

If you have say 9 buildings in a line such as:

123456789

if you want to feed a manifold with a single pipe, definitely plug it into 5 (or even 4 or 6), and avoid plugging to 1 or 9

if you are going to feed from two places, then roughly 3+7 would be optimal

if you are going to feed from three, then 2+5+8 i believe.

Feeding from three sometimes i would plug end+middle+end because it works anyway - if you're splitting your 600 pipe into three 200 inputs, it can easily handle that - but it doesn't flow quite as well. If you're closer to flow rate limits it can fail earlier than one which isn't at the ends

[hollow vector]

will they avoid each other?

[sullen gull]

Yeah nah, over thinking it. Just feed from the ends, watch the middle, spilt and feed the middle as required. Works all the time, every time 🙂

[frail sleet]

you have not seen the gremlins that i witnessed these past few days screwing with fluid variables 😄

[sullen gull]

🤷‍♂️

[frail sleet]

exact positions for multi feeding are not that big of a deal, but for single input, definitely middle first. It's one of the most impactful variables in manifold flow issues

[sullen gull]

Would bet 100 it's an easy fix with better flow distribution. It should just be a big loop. So long as it's being fed with the max required, everything gets what it needs.

[sullen gull]

Yeah, single input is dumb imo. should never 'dead-head' fluids.

[frail sleet]

If you connect to an end, then nearly 100% of the flow has to go through only 1 pipe after the junction, which is worst case scenario

the best spots to connect are the ones closest to 50/50% each way, and middle nails that every time. Depending on the number of machines, it can be a bit awkward to evenly split multiple inputs (but if they're not each at the flow rate cap, you don't have to be perfect)

all inputs spread their fluid outwards in every direction

[violet schooner]

can anyone hop on my server and kill me (im stuck in the ground)

[frail sleet]

press esc and respawn

[violet schooner]

im dumb i forgor about that 😭

[hard ivy]

dw I once nuked myself to respawn 😅

[sullen gull]

What are you talking about? the fluid flows in both directions, you just create a loop so that the 'feed line' always has max flow cap. then just don't try to min/max the feed line 'sections' (if that makes any sense.) Again, so long as you're feeding the loop with max (Or a squeak more if can afford (I.e two gens at 250% to one line, etc)), ya can't co wrong. 🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️

[tame marlin]

is it possible to save scum the drives or do they always give the same

[sullen gull]

The only 'dead-head' should be the machine consuming. Or, "maaaybe" a buffer.. for a place for this famous 'sloshing'

[wicked marlin]

ADA really thinks shes GLaDOS huh?

[hard ivy]

it's possible to save scum rescans, yes

I mean you can save scum the initial scan too, but the outcome is determined at the start of the scan, so it'd take 10 mins per attempt. rescans are instant

[sullen gull]

save the 'scum', it doesn't come into play next scans.

[wicked marlin]

the game is amazing, but i needs two more things.
1: gondala, sideways elevators, preferabbly they'd use power lines and each stop would be any power tower with a platform
2: xenobasher should have an altfire that jabs the target to deliver a short stun, like stun rebar but about half as long.

[wicked nacelle]

I'd settle for a good bugfix patch

[tame marlin]

I think we need plushies

[steady glade]

we had one recently

[feral geyser]

I want slugs and a Doggo

[tame marlin]

We need Blahaj with LGBT colours nod nod

[sour vessel]

omg a lizard doggo with the lesbian pride flag colors would go hard

if i knew how to 3d model, i'd mod it into my game 😂

[hard ivy]

you probably don't need to know much, the model is already made and you can pull it out of the game files and color it

[sour vessel]

true, but i'm not great at coloring/shading either

Maybe i'll practice with it, idk

i never took art class

[leaden turret]

• https://lizarddoggo.com/products/mini-magnetic-plush
• https://lizarddoggo.com/products/lizard-doggo-42-plush-set

[sour vessel]

god i wish i had a job, i'd buy the ficsit coffee cup

[feral geyser]

I know about the big doggo, but I can't justify that cost for a plushy 😭

[sour vessel]

what about $975 for a 40" xeno basher?

[unkempt blade]

you could make that in no time donating plasma between satisfactory binges!

[lunar gale]

Does anyone know of a satisfactory calculator tool where I can say (for example) I've got 960 iron, 300 limestone, 300 water and it shows you the maximum amount of HMFs you can create from that?

[sour vessel]

if they'd take my plasma :/

I have cardiac issues, chronically low BP so they'll never let me donate

[unkempt blade]

that's unfortunate, we'll have to think of a new side hustle that can enable your game merchandise habit

[sour vessel]

real

[sullen gull]

Modeler does that.

And I think you can set inputs for sftools as well.

But, modeler doesn't "give" you which recipe is best. You need to try different ones.

[lunar gale]

Cool thank you, hadn't heard of that

[unkempt blade]

let the dice decide for you and modeler do the math!

[sullen gull]

This post and the one below it is just a recent screen of what it looks like. You can find it for free on steam. #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Ooooh, it's going on the list ... The "chance" factory. First roll will decide end product, and then then next subsequent rolls will decide the recipes for each item needed to make the end item.....

Things like assembly director, turbo fuel, nuke plant, warp drives ofc.

[spark sky]

Well, I have figured out the layout for a BP of the floors that would allow stacking of 4 coal generators on a 2x6 base, but, the logistics for 4 coal generators is more complex than for 3 (if you're trying to load balance the coal input). #screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

are you just load balancing for the fun of it?

[sour vessel]

manifolds ftw

[spark sky]

I prefer load balancing.

[unkempt blade]

those stepped smokestacks look pretty cool though

[sour vessel]

to each their own, but manifolds are simpler, at the cost of a few minutes to reach peak efficiency

[feral geyser]

tree manifolds for the win

[unkempt blade]

ahh ok, if you're doing 4 you should just need one splitter into 2 splitters to balance it

[sullen gull]

Yeah, manifolds balance them selfes. Just because it SAYS 120/min, means that it's only it's max. the belt will eventually only pull 113.24/min for example

[spark sky]

Yeah, I had to move the floors down so that the powered indicator is sticking into the floor above. I did that to make sure the floors would fit in the BP (you can't put the generators in the BP, but you can stub in the logistics for both the water and the conveyors).

[sullen gull]

The belt TRIES to pull 120(through a splitter eg), but just gives what's needed. If over 120, well then the belt/machine/etc starves

[sullen gull]

My single "All up round" Auto connectable assembler BP 😏

#design-and-architecture message

The orange beams are just to force the "hit box" to a "standard size".. So that I can nudge it

[unkempt blade]

manifold are great and all but have you ever tried a cartifold instead?

[spark sky]

Well, if fully overclocked, how much coal does a coal power plant take?

[hard ivy]

15*2.5

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch coal+generator

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=coal+generator

[sullen gull]

Or like @hard ivy said. Max*2.5 (depending on what you're burning). for coal, it's 15 @100%

[spark sky]

Someone posted that before, but my setup would be either 3x3 (3 stacks next to each other) or 2x4 (since that seems to be the suggested layout, only vertically instead of horizontally).

[feral geyser]

it'll also use 2.5 * 45 of water/min

[sullen gull]

That also takes you to the page that shows what you asked. As far as numbers and such.

[unkempt blade]

or 2.5*.75 packaged water if you're a cartifold enthusiast

We need to keep pipe networks as simple as possible! that's why you should do truck stop => packager => tiny pipe segment => thing consuming liquids

[spark sky]

Cartifold, I've never seen a video on that.

[sour vessel]

I was about to say, gimme a tutorial on cartifolds 😂

[feral geyser]

yeahhhh, i ain't doing that

pipes are really not that bad

[spark sky]

From what people say, no, the pipes themselves aren't that bad, it's the troubleshooting problems with the liquid flow that is bad.

[unkempt blade]

Mk2 pipes are what's destroying society as we know it! Only the cartifold can save us!

[leaden turret]

it's the lack of visual / audio feedback to diagnose problems that's bad.

which means the pipes are bad in a different way 😛

[sour vessel]

Coffee Stain should add glass pipes to visualize the liquid inside the pipeline :p

probably already suggested

[spark sky]

Now, I saw a video where someone was making "hoses" from smooth pipes. I can't imagine those being easy to troubleshoot.

[leaden turret]

November 19th, 2024 Livestream
Q&A: Do you have any plans to make Fluid dynamics more transparent?
https://youtu.be/HfR91OOh_zw

[spark sky]

Perhaps for Ficsmas?

Hm, Ficsmas. Imagine this: clear pipes with water and ornaments flowing through them.

And some kind of combiner/separator to allow belts to feed ornaments into the pipes and extract them at the other end.

[feral geyser]

are the gauges on the pipes not enough for you? they pulse with flow direction, expand with volume, change color with type, etc...

[sour vessel]

glass would be really cool though

ik it'd be resource intensive to render fluid dynamics, but it'd be really cool

[pseudo nebula]

Where do we find the place to report gliches?

[spark sky]

Glass windows for straight runs, only. It might be easier than otherwise. They could even have bubbles in the water.

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @hard ivy

[pseudo nebula]

well i guess that works

[sour vessel]

I wish the SMART mod was still being worked on ;-;
i miss my outputs auto-connecting to my inputs

[spark sky]

Well, dog walking time... BRB.

[keen coral]

uhh, how do i tell the blueprint designer to not autoload a blueprint I select with the build gun?

[rigid mist]

is building culling a thing

[solid storm]

Just curious. What is supposed to go into those 6 ports in the space elevator? Are they just for show? The reason I ask is because they are functional, meaning you can place belts in them?

[rustic hare]

elevator parts ofc

[leaden turret]

stuff gets culled, large amount of instance meshes so less than you'd think

[rigid mist]

so like stuff behind walls or just stuff out of the frustum

[keen coral]

Replacing the designer fixed it, wonder where that setting was

[leaden turret]

[both is good]

[rigid mist]

because one of my buildings lags the crap out of my game and i was wondering if it would lower the lag if it's behind walls

[smoky nimbus]

how many modular engines and adpative units should I aim for at phase 3?

[leaden turret]

game is more cpu bound than gpu bound, so maybe

[leaden turret]

more than zero, less than infinity

[rigid mist]

we'll just have to see
and i was planning to put walls around it anyways

[rigid mist]

i did like 3 per minute not very much but make sure to stockpile cause you need a lot for phase 4

[solid storm]

Is it possible to place those short basic walls on ramp foundations? Or do you need a mod for that?

[spark oracle]

chat why is the sloppy alumina recipe not available after i unlocked all of t7

[hard ivy]

It's an alt

[rigid mist]

because nuh uh

[spark oracle]

correct

alr nvm i reloadeed n it works now

my MAM was saying there were no more available recipes but I still hadnt gotten alumina

[rigid mist]

lmao it has 373 buildings

[spark oracle]

gorp

[smoky nimbus]

#math-and-meta message

[crude cave]

Is hording hard drives until farther into the game a good idea? It seems you only get recipes for things you have unlocked, meaning that researching them all now would prevent me from getting alternate recipes for new stuff later

[warm phoenix]

You could mass read it now and reroll later

[crude cave]

But I only get 1 reroll per hard drive

And I'm also assuming I cannot get an option for an alternate recipe if it's already an option for a different loaded hard drive

[warm phoenix]

Lot of fundamental alts are on early stages

[warm phoenix]

Yes
ppl use it to remove unwanted alts from draw

[slender quest]

Great idea. If the alt recipe is already in the list in one of the drives you researched, it won't appear again when you research a new drive.

[shrewd palm]

yes

[merry perch]

yes but after youve gotten good hard drives that are basic like cast screws

cast screws makes life so much more sunshine and rainbows

[crude cave]

Is that the iron bars to screws?

[warm phoenix]

Or cast wires

[merry perch]

yh

[crude cave]

My favorite
Until I could just turn 1 steal into 50 of them

[slender quest]

If you reroll, 2 alt recipes are going back to the roster of "alt recipes you can get after drive research".
If you claim a recipe, the other alt goes back to the roster.

[merry perch]

^ too

[slender quest]

Fused wires my beloved.

[merry perch]

ig

coal isnt everywhere though

[warm phoenix]

Theres also inv upgrade in there too

[merry perch]

ye

[merry perch]

whats alt recipes you can get after drive research? i just assumed it went back into the pool

or what does that mean

[warm phoenix]

Prob meant possible alt recipe draw

[slender quest]

Yes, back in the pool of "recipes you can get".

[merry perch]

okok makes more sense ty

i was worried bc ive skipped out on some sick recipes solely bc its not what i needed at the time

[slender quest]

The recipes you can get actually depend on your game phase. Wiki has the requirements list.

[merry perch]

like when i was getting sloppy aluminum i passed on a couple of good ones bc i needed that recipe

[warm phoenix]

I'll have you know
That i've been slacking on drive unboxing until tier 5 and im regretting hard for it

[merry perch]

100% not the name

ive really started doing drives since i made my control unit factory for phase 3

[warm phoenix]

Lot of junk alts diluting the pool

[merry perch]

you need like 100 of those but i made it churn out 9 per minute

[slender quest]

Also, as soon as the game doesn't let you research another drive, or the new drive has only 1 alt available, it means that you researched everything available for now.

[merry perch]

and they arent used anywhere else i think

but i got really efficient farms for heavy modular frames, comp chips, and computers bc of it

[warm phoenix]

You reminded me that i need to make computer production line

[rustic pier]

How do yall like to lay out your fuel gennys?

[merry perch]

straight line

[warm phoenix]

Which one

[rustic pier]

Lol pipe down the middle between two rows?

[slender quest]

Next to each other in one direction, put tube junction in between 2 gens in other direction.

[merry perch]

two rows would have been smarter

[warm phoenix]

I do 2 rows of coal gen

[merry perch]

i just have a 20/10 gen line for every pure/normal node ive done

[feral geyser]

I have a BP that fits 3 in a 5×5, staggered so the one's pipe is on the line between the two, then a central pipe above them feeding all 3

[slender quest]

You can also fit 4 gens + pipe in MK2 BP designer.
Or you can go full clipping and stack 4+ generators in one spot.

[feral geyser]

Auto connect compatible, compact, no clipping

Then I just nudge them into nestling, and all is good in the world.

[merry perch]

i really gotta start doing bps for things

i have them for smelters, constructors, and assemblers and thats basically it besides hypertube cannon

[feral geyser]

I can send you some cool ones

[merry perch]

bet

[warm phoenix]

I got the coal and water down but man im struggling with actually utilizing spaces

[merry perch]

height

[warm phoenix]

Got a lot of empty spot thats good for nothing

[rustic pier]

Currently i have mine in two rows with the fuel line down the middle connected to a buffer thats a 4m foundation higher. I put valves in each segment before the next pair. Closed them all when i was starting them up and let the pipes and buffer fill and i crank it open, waiting for fill and hit the next.. was neat to avoid the trickle effect i think

[merry perch]

real space efficiency is using height to your advantage

[warm phoenix]

Out of way for belts and too small for 2nd rows

[rustic pier]

Bout to set an overflow for fuel to turn it into turbo. Because i know i produce more than it uses

[warm phoenix]

Wish i could hang pipes from ceiling

[merry perch]

cant you?

[feral geyser]

i can't dm you

[feral geyser]

they can

[merry perch]

W

[rustic pier]

I thought there was an item in the shop for that

[floral sinew]

There is i think haha

[warm phoenix]

I know belt one exist
but i dont recall one for pipe

[merry perch]

ik its for walls at least

[rustic pier]

Never tried to hang pipes xD might try it when i get home for the heck of it.

[spark sky]

More peoples! My stacked coal power plants (you can only do the floors and stubs for the logistics in BPs). There are 3-high in the background and the start of a 4-high in the foreground. I build the things and measure where stuff has to go, then build the floors in the BP designer and put in markers for where to place stuff (or what logistics I can that will be connected later once the power plants are placed). #screenshots message

[crude cave]

Maybe the pipe wall mount can be put on ceilings

Is it normal to overclock every single coal plant to 200%?

[shrewd palm]

no reason not to other than saving power shards

[merry perch]

ngl i barely did coal power

i rushed to thermal because i didnt know how to do manifolds

[crude cave]

It would be a challenge to find a spot where slugs are not in range of the hand held scanner thing

[rustic pier]

I just did enough till i got fuel and i am slowly phasing them out like my biomass ones

[warm phoenix]

My entire base is running on coals rn

[spark sky]

I have geothermal now, thanks to my 24 lizzard doggos giving me the materials that I can't make, to do the research.

But, I still want to do this coal powerplant for the challenge.

[shrewd palm]

i think theres only a few hundred power shards in the world (with slooping) and you run out quickly if you make larger factories with overclocking

[rustic pier]

Lol. I have some geos but main power is fuel with batteries

[shrewd palm]

once you get them automated they arent a problem tho

[crude cave]

Not really any need to overclock anything other than coal plants. You can always build more constructors and stuff, but coal plants are way too big

[shrewd palm]

in the future (maybe some parts of phase 4, definitely for 5) you will need to overlock

[limpid cairn]

coal?

[warm phoenix]

Hm
maybe i could use the empty space for biofuel line
...no theres no source of container nearby and i cant be arsed to build trainline up top to mountain

[shrewd palm]

my phase 5 factory is gonna have over 2000 machines and that is going to nuke your fps

[warm phoenix]

If only there was single patch of iron nearby

[feral geyser]

Doggos are so OP for that

[warm phoenix]

How does one tame doggo

[spark sky]

I built a kennel to keep them in, they seem to be content.

[desert bridge]

would anyone be willing to assist me with load splitting my pipes so my machines dont run out?

[shrewd palm]

paleberries i think

[feral geyser]

I need to build mine a nicer kennel.

[shrewd palm]

manifold them, just remember to put the input pipe into the middle of the manifold

[spark sky]

I have a nice BP for one.

[feral geyser]

Share?

[spark sky]

It holds 40 (if you can find that many).

[feral geyser]

👀

-heavy breathing-

[desert bridge]

how would that work if i have a 1600 out that i need to split 13 ways?

i think that equates to 3 diff pipe splits

[shrewd palm]

just put in a new pipe whenever you need to

[feral geyser]

You don't need to split it down to exact flow rates

Just do a manifold with 3 input pipes (1600/3 < 600)

Input in the middle and at both ends.

[spark sky]

@feral geyser Can you do voice so I can show you stream in Discord?

[shrewd palm]

#screenshots message something like this i guess

[feral geyser]

I cannot rn, sorry.

[spark sky]

Hm. Well, let's see...

[feral geyser]

You can share blueprint files

[spark sky]

How do we do that?

[feral geyser]

In the savegames folder where you game is, then the one labeled blueprints.

I forget the exact file path

[spark sky]

I know where they are, how do I share them, other than posting them to my Dropbox?

[feral geyser]

You can DM me.

[rustic otter]

%LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames\Blueprints

[spark sky]

Well, I'm going to go watch a movie.

[peak wasp]

good morning peoples, struggling to find motivation to keep playing

[shy fog]

question for you then ruby. What have you completed?

I'm finally working my way thru the 4

[peak wasp]

I'm setting up a heavy modular factory atm

and then a computer factory

[shy fog]

ah, so still phase 3?

[spark sky]

Heh, I did most of phase 2 by hand.

[deep pier]

just finished phase 3 and no idea what to do next anyone got a tip?

[shy fog]

I'm tapdancing my way thru the phase 4 completion so nothing else left to do but make the power enough...

[sullen gull]

Remeber, no matter what ADA sez.... breaks are a-ok 😏

[shy fog]

Bauxite

[sullen gull]

Easy-peasy

[shrewd palm]

aluminum is oretty fun tbh

gets you ready for the kind of complexity you can see with nuclear/phase 5

[sullen gull]

I have a nice bp for 600 baux, 180 water, ~200 something pet coke, and puts out 600 ingots. Recylcing waste as well

[shrewd palm]

nice

[zenith pecan]

How big did you build it 😄

[sullen gull]

Just plop down 24 of those, boom, all the bauxite processed.

[peak wasp]

I did too on my first play through, just trying to automate everything

[shrewd palm]

12000

[sullen gull]

I need to recreate them for autoconnect ...

[shrewd palm]

everything except for one impure node because i couldnt be bothered

[zenith pecan]

You left out the last 300? 🙁

[shrewd palm]

12000 was nicer to work with than 12300

[sullen gull]

I brought it over, haven't done anything with it either lol.

[zenith pecan]

I did the full 12300, though 12000 in the main refinery & production facility, the last 300 in a smaller separate structure that feeds the ficsite ingot production by itself.

[feral geyser]

I just put up some screenshots from my Pioneer Safety factory

#screenshots message

[rustic pier]

I would really like a control console to control my smart splitters lol

[wide sinew]

anyone got a slick method for aligning corners of beams vertically?

[sullen gull]

Not sure what all ficsit networks mod has... but I know it can at least network machines and see status'

[sullen gull]

#design-and-architecture message

[dense violet]

there's methods with pillars, but w/o mods I'm not sure you could do it with beams

[sullen gull]

One of these days mate, you should just unblock... then maybe you'd see the question was already answered ... 🙄

[wide sinew]

thanks

[carmine aspen]

Something cool to have is a tesla valve:
Reqiures no power and reduces sloshing, but reduces flowrate and capacity

[dense violet]

what would that do?

regular valves already don't do anything

[sullen gull]

As per usual.. difficult to implement, "does nothing" is a bit of a stretch. But tyhose who only played during EA would probably thing that way I guess 🤷‍♂️

[carmine aspen]

a tesla valve is a valve that lets fluids flow in one direction but will meet with heavy resistance when it tries to fight the current, and has no moving parts

[dense violet]

I didn't ask what it is, I'd ask what would the point be of it"?

[carmine aspen]

efficiency

[dense violet]

of what?

[warm phoenix]

Is there good layout for using one export of tall container for cloud and other for further processing

Or am i better off making dedicated line for cloud storaging

[sullen gull]

Not sure how you mean, but I use an industrial storage with a dd on top, even as a buffer between things like plates, beams, etc, mk3 lift connecting it. And then a smart splitter before the input for overflow if required.

[dense violet]

you could just smart splitter over flow?

prioritise your dimentional depot, over flow out to wherever

[cunning siren]

Ahhhh... feels good to get T3 belts, out of T2 belt hell

[dense violet]

you know the machines consumption rates are what, in the end, control the rate of flow right?

[limpid cairn]

how bad are alumina scrap manifolds?

with the pure alumina ingot recipe so theres smelters instead of assemblers

[carmine aspen]

id say theyd be pretty good for uphill

[dense violet]

how so?

[dense violet]

wdym?

its just like nay other manifold

[carmine aspen]

they would reduce backflow

[dense violet]

valves don't reduce back flow.

fluids can get knocked back and hit the fluid behind them

[carmine aspen]

the working theory on how this valve would work is there would be so much pressure behind the valve due to reduced flowrate, that high pressure forces the liquid to move forward incresing the average speed of filling machines or storages

[shy mulch]

I always just build a loop whenever I do a fluid manifold, seems to eliminate sloshing and has worked perfectly for me

I don't get why people make such a big deal about it

[dense violet]

there isn't really pressure in the game. liquids flow to the more empty space

[carmine aspen]

thats where this valve would help, it reduces the bounceback effect of fluids filling the empty space faster

[shy mulch]

I think it's a good solution to a problem that already has easier solutions

[limpid cairn]

500 Stack size and refineries output a lot, I’m worried that they are like screws

I don’t wanna get screwed up

[dense violet]

you're thinking about real world pipes. I'm talking about in game pipes
valves don't stop back flow, fluids can be knocked back against them

[shy mulch]

what's wrong with screws?

[dense violet]

just like any other manifold. Plan around the throughput

[dense violet]

screws expand on production and people don't know how to manage them well early on.

[limpid cairn]

They clog up belts

[dense violet]

... only if you don't manage your belts right. Which is the same for every part

[shy mulch]

people should take the opportunity to learn when first using screws, it's very simple to deal with, then they won't have any problem applying the same techniques to alu scrap 🙂

[limpid cairn]

You forget that you only have mk1 belts when you first have to deal with screws

[dense violet]

yeah just keep the manifolds to 60 or less

[shy mulch]

all the more reason to manage them properly

[blissful fable]

so i just unlocked oil production and holy fuck i need to travel to get oil

[shy mulch]

at the point where you only have mk1 belts, you also don't have any machine that can output more than 50/min screws, so there shouldn't be any issue. apply some common sense and don't merge or manifold them at that stage

[dense violet]

people get screw ptsd early on though. It happens

[blissful fable]

im lucky i didnt

[shy mulch]

you'll get used to it, there's a lot of travelling in this game, the world is pretty big, hypertubes help a lot in middle game

[blissful fable]

fair but i dont have power across the map yet

[dense violet]

run with a cable. You can put them down as you sprint

[shy mulch]

I hadn't used them in ages because my previous endgame factories avoided them purely accidentally, my new one involved a section last night where I had to make 4500/min screws and it was absolutely zero issue, just dealt with it like any other part of the factory. When I saw that number in the plans I got concerned because people here had conditioned to make me think screws were an issue, they really weren't

[blissful fable]

i have power towers

[dense violet]

eh whichever you want. I hate hte looks of hte towers

[dense violet]

oh yeah, I love me my steel screw

[blissful fable]

but they can have the longest cables

[hollow halo]

Satisfactory time :D

[dense violet]

and? xD a few less clicks while you sprint along doesn't matter much

[sullen gull]

It's amazing how this guy likes to bully people into thinking they way he does 🙄

[dense violet]

way too big and ugly

I tend to hide my power poles in rocks and trees

[dense violet]

it's amazing how you think stating an opinion is bullying and how you're surprised you're blocked because yo uwaste people's time

why ever would I keep such a person blocked

[sullen gull]

Lol

[dense violet]

a mystery that will never be solved

the great sages of the future will ponder this to no avail

[sullen gull]

Dude, you talk down to EVERYONE ... like you're some messiah. Instead of live and let live, you love to tell everyone how what they are doing is wrong. That is why I have an issue with you. Noone else in the server talks to people like you as consistently.

For someone who doesn't even play the game ... smh

[shy mulch]

I made a blueprint that had 2 overclocked constructors turning a small amount of steel beams into 1125 screws, and fed them into 4 assemblers which combined the screws with 225 iron rods to output 45 rotors. Booped that blueprint down 4 times, hooked it all up, done

[dense violet]

Yeah I'm not uncovering your msgs so you're only wasting your time.

[sullen gull]

🤷‍♂️ , got nothing but mate. no skin lost here

[dense violet]

I really fell in love with steel screws with this bolted frame/plate combo https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1393068256214122637/1393093916668198922/image.png?ex=68c05c90&is=68bf0b10&hm=f2cb29f53a7d11da5be110adba8a96a1c95557dcb9b6dc4c3d338ef975921ed8&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

sushi fed into a unit that outputed 10.6 frames pm

[shy mulch]

perfect!

[dense violet]

sadly this uses the old pre 1.0 steel coated plate
it was fed a bit of plastic, steel ingots, steel beams

they murdered my baby

[shy mulch]

Where did that even come from? I didn't see anything negative here until you appeared and went on a rant. What's even going on?

[sullen gull]

On going issue mate.

[dense violet]

they go into verbal abuse because I've had them blocked for ages. And then wonder why I have them blocked

[sullen gull]

Lol, I have no qualms with you having me blocked. Only with how you treat people and act like you're an expert for someone who doesn't even play. 🤷‍♂️

[shy mulch]

I've blocked a couple of people here and can't even remember why lol

[dense violet]

You aren't the first to reply to a blocked msg from them going 'what the hell??' , you won't be the last

[hollow halo]

Uh… why are yall beefing 😔🙏

[sullen gull]

Which is funny considering I get more comments in agreement than I do in question 🤣

[dense violet]

notes are very useful to remember them by. Just to keep away the urge to unblock. I don't need a note for this instance.

[shy mulch]

Maybe if you both block each other then nobody will need to care about what each other says or does, and we can all be happy 🙂

[dense violet]

I wish.

[sullen gull]

Nah, I like to correct them when being a pedantic "know-it-all" and treating new players like someone beneath them

[shy mulch]

And you think the best way to handle your feelings is to attack the people who made you feel that way?

[sullen gull]

🤷‍♂️ again, definately not the only one who feels this way. Just the only one bored enough to challenge.

[dense violet]

I swear they're just more annoyed that I've got them blocked and am ignoring them. And they can't stand it. Because they keep going on about being blocked by me.

instead of letting it go and getting on with their lives

[shy mulch]

I'm going to go to bed and leave it at this, but you're coming across exactly the way you describe, have some self reflection

[dense violet]

sleep tight!

[sullen gull]

Lol, nah mate, only made one comment about you having me blocked, and that is when you come in with some rude answer to someone when it's already been answered. 🤷‍♂️

[carmine aspen]

but he was the one to answer first

[shy mulch]

Here's a fun ideal. Let's leave it 🙂

[sullen gull]

And, I'll say it again for the newbies, I have said before that he helps a good bit. It's his demeanor that I have an issue with.

[carmine aspen]

i just scrolled up further, the plot thickens

[sullen gull]

Heh, which time, if just recently, I am referring to a question about beams.

Which, is basically, admittedly, where my "tirade" started. 🤷‍♂️

[dim flint]

I'm too lazy to scroll up.

I'm also too lazy to finish rerouting my sinks tonight.

Or making the stairs I need to make.

[sullen gull]

Heh, I was rebuilding this cave to try your suggestion on a "prototyping cave" .. Sadly it doesn't fit a mk3 bpd very well 🙁

[dim flint]

🙁

It's for smaller builds then.

[sullen gull]

I'm trying to figure a good way to build in such a way that leaves the little water pool open.. for some "ambiance" 🤣

[rose lotus]

how do I avoid getting overwhelmed looking at the next factory I need and then just burning out

[sullen gull]

Taking breaks imo.

[dim flint]

Modeler has helped me with that.

[dense violet]

first time going through the tiers?

[sullen gull]

Lol, modeler just adds to it for me 🤣

[rose lotus]

no not at all

[dim flint]

Just like with programming, I break things down into smaller builds and then it doesn't seem so bad.

[rose lotus]

I have been playing since 2020 (not nonstop obviously)

[dense violet]

huh, so fairly practiced with the basics?

[rose lotus]

and more than the basics

but when I plan out the next factory section I just...lose all motivation to actually do it

[dense violet]

hmm I guess I'd have to ask what you're wanting out of the game and how you're approaching it

[rose lotus]

I actually get that kind of overwhelming feeling with all games like this, but for some reason it is a lot stronger in SF

[crisp edge]

so i've got a train station, and the incomingrail that's furthest away from me works great. train comes in, enters the station, leaves. i want to connect a push/pull train to it, so i've added a straight track that you see coming in frmo the bottom. i try to add both path and block signals but it just says the signal loops on itself. how do i fix this? is it possible to have a full loop train and a push/pull train share a station? #screenshots message

[dim flint]

I get that way if I'm not confident what I'm doing will work out.

[carmine aspen]

i usualy build what i need in preparation for the next phase, then once all the current tiers are completed i move on to automating the elevator parts nececary for the next phase

[rose lotus]

currently this is where I am at https://i.imgur.com/4MACIPp.png

I just...cannot bring myself to start building it

[dim flint]

why the path signal?

[sullen gull]

You can post screens in #screenshots. Saves anyone having to click out to another service.

[dense violet]

do you have an end goal for when you unlock everything?

[crisp edge]

novice train user, just tinkering, don't know how to do what i'm trying to do

[rose lotus]

what do you mean

[dense violet]

like, the tiers are basically just kinda tutorial to get t oa sand box stage after phase 5.

do you have a plan other than 'finish phase 5'?

[dim flint]

Path signals are for tracks which overlap when you want trains to be able to occupy one "color" at the same time.

[crisp edge]

i tried a block first, it had the same looping error, just placed a path hoping it would do something different

[rose lotus]

no, and I could not possibly

[dim flint]

Also try adding block signals after the station too. But generally, I'd go online and watch some videos. It really helps to get the fundamentals in your head a bit.

[rose lotus]

once there is nothing left to work towards I have no reason to continue

that is not unique to SF, or even logistics/automation games

[crisp edge]

so your answer to my specific question is go watch some videos then

[rose lotus]

but I am nowhere near that point yet in this save so it is not really relevant

[dense violet]

just a general feeling of 'meh'?

[peak wasp]

I wonder if they will go the minecraft way with endless random map

[lethal prawn]

I’ve been needing to do supercomputers after I had built my turbo fuel plant. I realllllly didn’t want to do it. So I just decorated heaps of things in my factory for a few hours to take my mind off of it, which seemed to “cure” my “overwhelmedness”

[dense violet]

I've got to walk my giant idiots of dogs but I can help break your fuel factory down into more manageble chunks after if you want? might find it easier

[dim flint]

I mean, from your screenshot, you only have one signal, so the error kinda makes sense, no?

[dense violet]

back in 30ish

[rose lotus]

when I do not have anything to work towards it is impossible to have motivation because it all feels pointless

[crisp edge]

no. i don't understand what the error means. that's why i'm here asking for help. how am i looping on myself? i don't get it

[rose lotus]

but the overwhelmed feeling I am describing now is distinctly different from that situation, and is much more akin to the kind of feeling you might get when looking at a giant messy room, knowing you need to clean it

that kind of dread

[rose lotus]

I have done that, but it only helps a little, probably in a large part because I am not good at making builds that are remotely aesthetically pleasing

so decoration itself is both slow and feels like it is not accomplishing anything of value

[sullen gull]

That's an issue this game may only exacerbate mate.

[rose lotus]

as I said I get it in other similar games, notably Factorio, when I look ahead to what still needs to be done

[sullen gull]

Outside of trying to maybe make things "easier" with blueprinting and such, the challeneges can be pretty daunting.

[rose lotus]

but there it is a lot less severe, and I can just "dive in" and do it incrementally without that feeling being a real barrier

perhaps the main difference is that for Factorio I only get that when I look at the entire progression, or very very big-picture goals (eg "automate Fulgora")

whereas for SF I seem to get it for every factory "module"

[sullen gull]

Yeah, it's when you have that "plan of action" in mind I would assume. Other times, there may be just that one thing you haven't decided on yet and it seems to derail the whole drive

[rose lotus]

building being slower and more difficult in SF is probably a major contributor yes

the lack of a copy-paste in particular is something i constantly struggle with

[sullen gull]

I have factorio, but haven't played much. It just doesn't scratch that same "itch" personally.

[rose lotus]

the opposite actually; having a plan seems to make it worse

like my first couple playthroughs never really had this problem, but those I just kind of winged it

built a little at a time, as I unlocked/needed it, with little to no planning ahead

this of course comes back to bite you in the ass, in any game like this

massively mismatched ratios, severely underbuilt production, etc

so as of my U8 playthrough I started doing planning ahead

and as it happens that is also when this feeling of being overwhelmed when looking at the next project bgan

[sullen gull]

All I can really say is I feel I sympathize, with the only caveat for me being having a hard time planning out and just trying to "wing it" with a "concept". For me, I just take a break and go do something else entirely.

[arctic timber]

hi

bye

[sullen gull]

And, not saying it's the same for you, just giving my opinion from someone who has faced "burn-out" quit a few times and has clocked over 3800 hours since starting at the end of U8

[lethal prawn]

Gahd Dayum

I wish I had more time on my hands fr

[sullen gull]

Lol, I love the game and have admittedly become addicted, what can I say! 🤷‍♂️ 🤣

[lethal prawn]

I get like
14 hours per week to play
It’s saddening really

I’ve only got like 1600 hours and I started on Update 3 😭
Although there was a period where I hadn’t played for a long time

[sullen gull]

For me, it curbs an itch of wanting to create "something"

I go down to my "tinker shop", with basically every tool imaginable almost, and my brain explodes. I feel in that regard, I am much better at helping others through thier projects 😏

[lethal prawn]

That’s what I love about satisfactory.
Systems and Production lines running at 100% efficiency . Items travelling along conveyor belts I find very satisfying

If a game has conveyor belts, it has my attention

[sullen gull]

I find the "production" aspect rather easy. It's the "beautification" that drives me. Constantly trying to find new ways to arrange machines and build factories that "blend in" to the landscape as best I can lol

[lethal prawn]

I’m horrendous at decorating
I’ve been actively trying to work on it however.
Gotten slightly better but still abysmal 😂

[sullen gull]

Oh, yeah, I don't consider myself great by any means lol. But I keep learning new "tricks" and methods for sure.

[warm phoenix]

#screenshots message

Pain.

[sullen gull]

I feel this lol.

[lethal prawn]

I’m going for a neon/futuristic/cyberpunk theme at the moment
I will say I’m happy with its turning out so far

[sullen gull]

For me, lately, it has been trying to create hidden wireing BP's for macines and getting annoyed with trying to align wall outlets to a specific point.

[sullen gull]

Nice. And 'you' being happy it what it's all about imo

[dim flint]

My problem with factorio, I don't have in satisfactory is A) the feeling like idling is wasting resources and my base is slowly depleting from underneath me, and B) the sense that I can build many bases at the same time and hop around between them more easily.

[dim flint]

Time to rebuild everything.

[dim flint]

I'm so sick of aligning ceiling outlets.

[sullen gull]

Leanring the blueprinting system, especially with auto connect now, makes a bit more tolerble for sure. But I have heard that factorio "wins out" for some in this category as well

[dim flint]

Copy paste would be amazing.

With drones to build larger plans.

2.0 should absolutely have this.

[sullen gull]

Same. Hence why I started designing "hidden wiring" systems

[silk ocean]

But what happens if your megafac trips? xD

[sullen gull]

sec

[silk ocean]

Do you have a restart facility xD

72,000 MWh restart building

Everybody has fancy facs and then when the poorly designed supply to powergen fails and it trips, you're screwed XD

[dim flint]

I have a plan for how I'd restart, but it was sketchy until I built my new turbofuel plant.

I still need to add some more priority switches to really keep things foolproof though.

[sullen gull]

@dim flint for example:#screenshots message

[shy mulch]

The solution is to plan it properly so there's never a power outage 😝

[silk ocean]

My solution is 3-fold:

• powergen is protected, resources are guaranteed
• hyper cannons everywhere to all locations
• 10% emergency restart facility last-resort

[silk ocean]

Never had one yep XD

No drones are allowed when it comes to powergen. Trains only

Drones have randomly failed me over the years

[sullen gull]

Nah, if bringing in nitro gas, drones all day 😛

[wicked nacelle]

drones have a bug where they get stuck in the middle of their flight

only restarting the game fixes it

[silk ocean]

You're gonna have a bad day xD

[sullen gull]

Hasn't happened yet

[silk ocean]

Soon™

[dim flint]

This would drive me insane.

[wicked nacelle]

using drones for nitrogen is super weird. You need a ton of it and you ideally want to return empties

obviously it's possible, but it just seems like the worst possible way to do it

[sullen gull]

Eh, it only looks bad because I had overlapping foundations. Because the dang nodes don't seem to line up with anything.

[dim flint]

I'm impressed you got a miner to line up with a floor hole.

[sullen gull]

Again, have done it up to 1920 (or somwhere around there) nitro gas needed. No issues yet on my end.

[wicked nacelle]

sure. with enough drones you can do any number. just a very odd choice

[sullen gull]

Snap a barrier to the input, and then a foundation to the barrier.

[dim flint]

Ah yes, I've heard that before now that you mention it...

But in general getting it to line up with the rest of my factory is impossible.

[sullen gull]

Yeah, hence the over-lapping of foundations 🤣

[dim flint]

yea lol

[sullen gull]

Like so, for those that may not know: #screenshots message

[rose lotus]

I sometimes get that too, particularly in the early game (and the fact I use mods that reduce the richness of ore near the start area does not help) but the effectively infinite ore due to worldgen after that means it tends to stop being a feeling

even before Space Age and its new near-infinite metal

[dim flint]

I guess I've never made it that far.

But it's also just not as nice to sit around and soak in the sights.

[sullen gull]

"reduce the richness" whaaaa?

[woeful gale]

I try to be as efficiency as possible in oil product but the only have diluted packed not the diluted one so I have to build 1 bazillion refines and packeting and lots of canister, it so daunting

[sullen gull]

@dim flint What I have so far ... not liking the waterfall on the foundations though.... #screenshots message

[silk ocean]

I am progressively decommissioning powergen on the north coast.. next prject is to take offline this northern fuel plant xD

[dim flint]

Hard to tell it looks bad from the screenshot.

[sullen gull]

Different angle: #screenshots message

[dim flint]

Love the light.

[sullen gull]

Video may show better what I mean: #screenshots message

[dim flint]

Yeaaaaa

[sullen gull]

It'd be cool if foundations could redirect the flow of water 😏

[silk ocean]

What xD

Of all teh things.. following water xD

Get outta town xD

[sullen gull]

Well, in this case, I could 'redirect' the water fall lol

[silk ocean]

What is this, baptising the newborns XD

[sullen gull]

Anywho, I'm outy five thouty... Night!

[silk ocean]

Night xD

Where are you like west coast

West Coast Best Coast xD

[sullen gull]

Rust belt US

[silk ocean]

Oh yea kinda late xD

Could just skip that sleep 😈

[sullen gull]

I do ... WAAAY to often 🤣 🤣

Trying to be 'smarter' 😏

[silk ocean]

Kinda almost 6am here in London xD

Yea lol sleep is good xD

[sullen gull]

Way to often I end up pulling 24's or even worse, 48's

[silk ocean]

In the old days of LANParty's we pulled 72'ers xD

[sullen gull]

It's amazing I still function as I do to be honest.

[silk ocean]

Yea, human body is remarkably good at dealing with video games XD

[sullen gull]

When I was introduced to this game in August of last year, I think I maybe slept 4 hours the whole week 🤣

[silk ocean]

I can relate to this XD

[sullen gull]

Used vacation days and all ... it was saaad

[silk ocean]

I have been known to quit my job over video games 🤣

[sullen gull]

Lol, it's not even 'video games' for me lmao. Just this one 🤣

[silk ocean]

lol yep XD

I think I got fired over Skyrim xD

[sullen gull]

Currently, steam shows 3886 hours for this game. Only one with more hours listed (that I can tell) is Eve Online, with 846 🤣

[silk ocean]

Yes that is a good playtime xD

I'm about 1450 on Satisfac

[sullen gull]

Haha, I have a total of 2.2 hours in Factorio 🤣

[silk ocean]

Factorio is great but the kinda game you fall into xD

...and then get addicted

[clear wadi]

im building a factory for computer but i dont know how many should i make

i have mk4 belt

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I tried. But, I think with the way Satisfactory does it, With it's scale and being able to be able to "live" in your world so-to-speak is what gets me.

[sullen gull]

Are you overclocking?

[silk ocean]

Just make what you need, make more in future

[clear wadi]

cause if i want i can make a lot

i used the planner and 10 computer is a bit to easy

[sullen gull]

This is true. Are you bringing everything to a main base, practicing "independency", or what? What would you like to 'accomplish'?

[clear wadi]

nah

i like mordular factory more

[vague burrow]

This game has made me hate fluids. I'm never drinking water again.

[sullen gull]

Modular in the sence that you can just easily add-on when needed?

[clear wadi]

good luck on living =))

i want to make computer and other related stuffs without using oil

then produce space elevator compartments

[sullen gull]

Don't falll for the hype mate. Basic principles imo: pay attention to head lift, distribute the flow (feed) across the machines. Valves and buffers can be annoying to use.

[kind rose]

I just make it saturated

Than I don’t think

[sullen gull]

And when recyling, no matter how big the manifold, "Total needed - waste byproduct = how much should be pumped into the feed loop."

[silk ocean]

So which state are you, Rust Belt.. like Pennsylvania xD

West New York xD

[limpid cairn]

can someone tell me what setting adds those white walls when building stuff?

[sullen gull]

Is New York really rust belt though? Indiana, Ohio, Illinois, Michigan .. maybe Wisconsin... Kentucky maybe, if it flows that far south, can't remember.