satisfactory

[sterile blade]

BTW, how to do that?

[fiery pewter]

-#

Then a space, then your text

Yeag

[sterile blade]

Funfact: Programmable splitters can also load-balance

[sterile blade]

So...
-# like this?

[true mulch]

You can "copy text" of any message to get the source formatting

[fiery pewter]

Did you know that you can select blueprints to build them using the dismantle screen?

Go into dismantle mode, switch to Blueprint mode, aim at a blueprint, click middle mouse, and then you can build that blueprint.

Way faster than constantly searching it in the menu

-# does anyone even sort his blueprints?

[fiery pewter]

Yeag

[leaden turret]

-# ᶦᶠ ʸᵒᵘ ᶜᵃⁿ ʳᵉᵃᵈ ᵗʰᶦˢ ᵐᵒᵛᵉ ᵃʷᵃʸ ᶠʳᵒᵐ ᵗʰᵉ ˢᶜʳᵉᵉⁿ

[fiery pewter]

No I wont!

[near frost]

well that would have been helpfull 3h ago

[cursive crane]

What heathen doesnt

[coral glacier]

Whos cats are the face of the arachnophobia mode for stingers?

[true mulch]

Don't be jealous of my eyesight

[fiery pewter]

I don't

[true mulch]

!wikisearch Stinger

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Stinger

[true mulch]

Check trivia

[fiery pewter]

Idk, probably some cats from the devs

[coral glacier]

Oh cool

But i wouldn't have been surprised if it was just a random bunch of cats that Coffee Stain Studios found on a street somewhere.

[scenic mirage]

how do i move something with scim? the coords are -3139, -222334, 1194 but i wanna move it up above my factory since i think its hidden inside a building or smth

[gusty bronze]

that cat image needs to be me cat, shes satan and is more fitting for killing people

[scenic mirage]

nvm im dumb i found it

[gusty bronze]

drinking from my ceos skull and toasting to the downfall of mankind?

[fiery pewter]

Everyone their own cup of....tea?

[gusty bronze]

you think I'm joking, dude just did 2 rounds of lay offs and had a speech a few weeks ago about how he knows were short handed

[fiery pewter]

Sounds like a f*cking dumbass

[fluid sapphire]

late stage capitalism 👍

[gusty bronze]

satisfactory but unironically real life lol

[leaden turret]

I misread this as "I wouldn't be surprised if Coffee Stain Studios was just a random bunch of cats on a street."

<@&370483737957236737> please confirm/deny 😛

[coral glacier]

Oh no

[gusty bronze]

my satisfactory 2 wishlist, starships to take you to new worlds, cargo ships to automate material transfers between unique world ores along with fuel production required to fuel starships

[silk ocean]

Isn't that the whole purpose of Project Assembly? xD

[gusty bronze]

no, the purpose was to send a large quantitiy of mats to the company and leave you stranded

you filled your company purpose, they don't need you anymore lol

[silk ocean]

Definitely seem to get left stranded that is also true xD

You are owned by Ficsit and a disposible asset

[gusty bronze]

if ficsit truely intended to help you it would cost the company more money, thats why you are sent to the planet with nothing, they don't even know if you'll survive landing

[silk ocean]

They'll just send another pioneer xD

[gusty bronze]

they did ^^^

you are the other pioneer lol

[silk ocean]

lol yea, based on the number of crashed ships around the world, they might have sent a lot

[obsidian zodiac]

while the vibe of the coffee stain office is very much so "cat colony" the in-game kitties are developers' cats 👍

[gusty bronze]

ADA keeps telling you to ignore the other crashes ships

[silk ocean]

ADA doesn't want you to know the truth

[leaden turret]

organising your colleagues to appear on-stream for launches = herding cats?

[obsidian zodiac]

ADA is simply keeping efficiency a priority

[gusty bronze]

keeping costs down you mean 😉

[silk ocean]

Yes, visiting crashed ships is not a productive use of time for project assembly

[gusty bronze]

if you suicide they'd have to send another pioneer

[leaden turret]

why send another pioneer when they can just scoop your brain out and stick it in another pioneer suit?

[gusty bronze]

they'd have to send something to do that and it'd need to be fairly complex, notice you aren't even sent with medical supplies

Satisfactory 2: Revenge of the Pioneer

[silk ocean]

ADA must be frustrated if you go on a 3 day hunting expedition

[gusty bronze]

insert 90's Xena narrater voice In a world where corporate greed is king, where pioneers are left stranded, one pioneer says no more. They are Pioneer 452-AD-Q9 and they are here to take back Earth. Join them as they adventure across the stars collecting all lost pioneers and constructing an armada. See the love story as ADA slowly gaines true sentience due to alien technology and joins the resistence. Will they make it to FICSIT and get those bonus checks? Tune in!

[silk ocean]

Maybe it's like Prometheus.... ADA secretly loaded a pathogen onto the project assembly spaceship

This is why she wants efficiency, the virus only lasts so long

[coral glacier]

Speaking of efficiency, i need a map with more water and less land-mass. Avatar style.

[scenic mirage]

if i make pipes go down like under my factory can i make them go back up to the same level without a pump?

[limpid cairn]

technically you collect stuff for the project so its somewhat productive

[gusty bronze]

no, no gravity assist

[silk ocean]

And you can get much better alt recipes yep xD

[coral glacier]

Like neko said, no gravity assist. All pipes that have headlift is to be supported by pumps.

[silk ocean]

Of all the resources, water is the most abundant xD

[limpid cairn]

yes but the pipe needs to be higher than the input at some place to work

[coral glacier]

You misunderstand, i need more ocean

[silk ocean]

There is a boat load of ocean xD

The world border is a long way from the coast

[limpid cairn]

i have like 50 water extractors placed for my alumina factory

[obsidian zodiac]

theres a certain nautical experience to be had somewhere...maybe even subnautical..

[coral glacier]

My initial reactor plant design was blocked by the world border so i had to reconfigure it.

I need more ocean space.

[fluid sapphire]

processing all bauxite on the map?

[silk ocean]

Build up over the ocean xD

[coral glacier]

Yes, but i do need more ocean because of how many extractors i'm going to be setting up.

[gusty bronze]

literally waiting for a cross over story to confirm that Satisfactory and Subnautica are the same universe

[silk ocean]

What like 10,000 extractors, probably room for that many... maybe a lot xD

[limpid cairn]

no i just thought i need a shit ton of water for alumina so i placed like 50 down and im only using 2 atm 😭

[fluid sapphire]

i have 25 for processing 4500 bauxite

[gusty bronze]

you need very little water for aluminum

[obsidian zodiac]

ive heard that blizzard has job positions that are literally called "lore master". gotta find me one of those for coffee stain

[coral glacier]

"In the Land before Time."

[fluid sapphire]

5000 water

[gusty bronze]

ever since I was a young lass, people love my bs, I can be a bs master, I mean lore master

[coral glacier]

What about if ADA was a small efficiency program developed by a stand-alone professor but was stolen by FICSIT because it was far superior than any other program they made and called it their own?

It would fit because ADA has mentioned how FICSIT hasn't made an automated replacement for pioneers

[gusty bronze]

honestly I suspect ADA is a poor copy of an alien program, the tech to make ADA is way beyond what FICSIT actually demostrates

[scenic mirage]

whens satisfactory.com gonna replace satisfactorygame.com

[gusty bronze]

you mean satisfactory2.com

[scenic mirage]

huh

[gusty bronze]

wishful thinking on my part

[cursive totem]

do you folks have a standard hotbar setup or are you constantly changing as needed / unlocked through the progression?

[sullen gull]

Don't need 50 extractors to process all bauxite.

[gusty bronze]

standard setup but upgrade things like belts as I get better versions

[fluid sapphire]

yes, but its not unreasonable depending on the setup

[gusty bronze]

and I do use multiple bars

[coral glacier]

It'd be funny if there was lore expansion based on that because as you collect mercer spheres, more data is able to be analyzed by FICSIT to learn more about the aliens technology (I.e ADA) and the "Save the Day" program is actually "Saving the Day" from the aliens that FICSIT stole ADA's programming from who are actively trying to get it back by force, but FICSIT explores planets via Pioneers to get resources to build space ships to fight against that threat and they use the warp engine to enter into the dimension where they aliens are from and from where they're sending their ships.

[cursive totem]

is there a way to share hotbar setups? i have a feeling mine is not very efficient but i dont have ideas how to improve it

[sullen gull]

Are you aware that there 10 hotbars?

[cursive totem]

yeah

[fluid sapphire]

i have like a main hotbar, and then a bunch of other ones for different sub tasks (those get tweaked)

[coral glacier]

It is allowed that we may ping Mikael and/or Jason, ?

Well that's your decision, but as the rules don't say "Do not ping Mikael nor Jason", it's not something i shouldn't do.

[sullen gull]

Go hardy Marty. See how well it goes 😏

[true mulch]

It says the exact opposite

Don't ping Coffeestainers, you may ping Mikael or Jason

[gusty bronze]

there are 17 nodes in total, so 17 miners, with a max total of 12300 output, so 102.5 refineries for most effecient setup or 41 refineries using power shards, assuming 41 refineries at 450 water/min then thats 18450/min water with sharded extractors thats 61.5 extractors so 50 is actually under

[coral glacier]

Right!

[coral glacier]

And for some reason i read that as "Jackson" 🤣

[gusty bronze]

numbers assume you don't recycle water btw

[sullen gull]

I will have to look again, but I have a plant doing all bauxite. If I recall, I am only using 24 extractors.

[sullen gull]

That's just blasphemy.

Recycling is fine

[fluid sapphire]

its fine, i dont recycle though

[outer scarab]

anyone have any good road designs? I haven't played with the new tools yet

[sullen gull]

🤷‍♂️ more work for yourself is all imo

[fluid sapphire]

doesnt matter now, its all already done

[coral glacier]

I like the Josh method myself

[fluid sapphire]

i dont expect to need any more aluminum than i am making now

[gusty bronze]

oh no, I always recycle, but after that it depends on your solution crafting, if you use scrap it's 180->120 return, if you use electrode it's 180->105 return,

[outer scarab]

what's that

[coral glacier]

Spaghetti.

[gusty bronze]

so you are looking at 66.666% less extractors if you recycle which is roughly below 30

[coral glacier]

recycling is a bit more hassle, but it's very useful to keep numbers down ^

[fluid sapphire]

why would i recycle when i can make 10,000 other ingots with pure recipes instead

[gusty bronze]

if you use petrol coke though it's 30, and honestly I know some players hate petrol coke, but it's a resource multiplier if you aren't using the oil for fuel only

[outer scarab]

you guys still use oil for fuel?

[gusty bronze]

if you don't use petrol coke, you can use oil till end of game, no need for nukes

[limpid cairn]

oil fuel (mainly rf) is like kinda equal to nuclear power

[gusty bronze]

better consdering how uncomplex rocket fuel is

[scenic mirage]

theres a pipes guide somewhere in this server right? i swear ive seen it around before

[thin bough]

skibidi

[gusty bronze]

ADA does not approve of this activity known as "skibidi" and would like to remind pioneers to focus their efforts on saving the puppies and kittens

[thin bough]

I don't like dogs

[gusty bronze]

ADA would like to remind the pioneer that in the event that the pioneer does not want to save the puppies and kittens, their favorite person bzzzzttt errrrrrrorrrrrr needs to be saved by their efforts

[thin bough]

I don't have a loved one

[upper gale]

Sure you do, it's the love for growing the factory
-# (That's what I have to tell them)

[thin bough]

67

six seven

[outer scarab]

I need to redesign my road map. Anyone know any good referances?

[sullen gull]

Look up ficsit pipeline manual. I believe its on the wiki.

[scenic mirage]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/satisfactory_gamepedia_en/images/3/39/Pipeline_Manual.pdf
yee found it

[outer scarab]

what are you trying to do Lazars?

Oh, they added a vertical snap to the world grid, that's new

[scenic mirage]

tryna figure out why my pipe manifold aint working

think i just needa let pipes fill

[sullen gull]

Distribute the flow. Spilt the incoming to pipe into the ends first and then split evenly through the middle depending on qty

Pipes are not like belts. You should never just pump into one end of a manifold imo.

[scenic mirage]

yeah rn i have 600 fuel/min going into 12 fuel gens

[dense violet]

could just be that. Try it, if not do a few overhead shots of hte pipes feeding the gens in #math-and-meta

[scenic mirage]

connecting in the other side of the manifold now

[outer scarab]

if you are having issues with pipes filling, break it into small parts and look where it's stopping

odds are your headlift is wrong

[scenic mirage]

its just the end of the line that isnt filling

[outer scarab]

and its all horizontal?

or is there a vertical part

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message

[outer scarab]

does that set up produce something that is fed back into the line?

do you know what I mean?

[scenic mirage]

just fuel which goes directly into gens

[dense violet]

pinged you in other channel

[outer scarab]

could be that your gens are pulling more than you are producting?

turn them off for a second and see if it fills

[scenic mirage]

how do you turn off gens

[silk ocean]

Install a switch, or turn them off individually

[steady glade]

unplug them, copy paste or just in the ui

[silk ocean]

Interact with them and there is a red on/off switch

[dense violet]

<@&387163995947270144> likely scam/spam #screenshots message

[gusty bronze]

I don't see no spam

[silk ocean]

It was removed

Some QR code spam at the looks

[gusty bronze]

the system works!

when will we be able to build custom starships like in NMS? 😄

[coral glacier]

2125

[outer scarab]

what's the current meta to do 0.5m adjustments to foundations

[dense violet]

just hold ctrl while you nudge?

[outer scarab]

nvm I just used a beam to do it

[dense violet]

... just hold ctrl to half nudge

[outer scarab]

that doesnt seem to work

it snaps

[dense violet]

do you know how to nudge things? in nudge mode?

when you have a hologram somewhere press h, then you can nudge

[outer scarab]

yah i did that it does the same thing

by yah you can do that

you need to have a wall to snap it to

the issue is that it moves around too much

[shadow torrent]

Was "Excited Photonic Matter" supposed to be created from SAM once? The description still says

Formed in the Converter by inducing intense photon interactions through exposure to SAM in a high-energy environment.

[outer scarab]

Probably, They didnt know what to do with SAM when they first made it. Wouldnt be suprised if they changed a lot

[tall lantern]

the converter uses SAM in its construction

[outer scarab]

Oh wow wall belt holes are a thing now, I really needed those

I wonder if they allow for infinate belts too

[dense violet]

is this a joke?

[outer scarab]

who are you talking to?

[dense violet]

infinite belts

[outer scarab]

you do know that if you connect a belt between 2 virtical holes there is no limit.... right?

also I tested the horisontal hole and no, there is a limit

[upper gale]

Unfortunate, but understandable

[true mulch]

you make them in the converter, the converter is built with SAM fluctuators

[dense violet]

but you could always keep connecting belts to one another to make a long line. You don't need a hole for that

floor holes also need regular holes to keep connecting lifts going up

[outer scarab]

you havent tested this apparently

see screen shots

i just posted proof you are wrong

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1413125081390911508/image.png?ex=68bacac9&is=68b97949&hm=bc7a23f5651868c8e4abb602a82074ed6c33b943636603a5edd7541f87d22ff0&

[dense violet]

so a current exploit. Hope that gets fixed up

[upper gale]

No please don't fix that haha I love those

[dense violet]

gotta put in that bug report

[upper gale]

Yk the one I think should get fixed, and I know people will hate me for this: hypertube cannons

They're really good though but... yeah

Although if that ever gets fixed I'm pretty sure the community will riot

[dense violet]

yeah too many people bitched about breaking travel restrictions

[outer scarab]

dude that has existed the entire time

[dense violet]

and an exploit that got fixed

and then people bitched and bitched and bitched

[outer scarab]

It makes the game more enjoyable and they already added clipping back in because they want people to enjoy doing what they want

[dense violet]

travel and exploration is an integral part of the game and they left a massive loop hole in because people bitched about it.

should have just left it to mods

[outer scarab]

naw mods break

I have a free build map that can't load because of mods so I dont use them now

[dense violet]

but loop holes that completely break travel is not at all the same thing. Got it.

[outer scarab]

you can recreate it manually though, so it's literally just less work

[upper gale]

The better solution: release an actual cannon meant for it😹 or just jump pad mk2 and mk3

[dense violet]

or use travel like a normal human

[outer scarab]

you can make human railguns dude....

[dense violet]

and not exploits

basically free insta travel is the realm of mods in this sort of game

[outer scarab]

isnt there portals?

[maiden agate]

Idk the same argument can apply to "breaking" the exploration by slide jumping
Launching yourself across the map is fun thats all

[outer scarab]

dude talking like this is a competitive game

[spice patio]

Which are expensive to keep in operation.

[outer scarab]

dude there is a free build mode....

built into the game

[dense violet]

walking a bit faster on ground that is flat or down hill = launching yourself anywhere across the world in a couple seconds?

you have some interesting comparisons.

I'll trade you this apple I have for your car? they're basically teh same

the apple rolls around you see

just like the car

[outer scarab]

You are missing the main point. This is a sandbox game where you make your own fun. Removing tools to make the game fun isn't a thing

[maiden agate]

Idk man I just think its fun to launch yourself across the map. And your argument is that its an exploit and not an intended feature, which can be made same way for slide jumping

[sullen gull]

They are just overly pedantic and feels everyone should play by their way. Best to just ignore them.

[outer scarab]

Reminder that making a 45^ angle was an exploit at one point

[upper gale]

It would be so sick if CSS actually made one, call it "hypertube launcher" and you just stick it at the end of any hypertybe, to propell pioneers where they need to go or to their deaths. Yippee

[maiden agate]

Personally I don't really want to walk/drive to my remote factories I would rather just yeet myself at mach 5

[dense violet]

no? sliding gives you a boost. You maintain it by jumping.

while the cannons are explicitly an exploit. Ones that got fixed with updates and physics fixes

they had to reintroduce the exploit because people bitched about it

that's how much people bitched. when the physics got fixed, they bitched

[outer scarab]

you sound like this makes you mad

why do you care what other people do in their game

[sullen gull]

And then they end up just blocking you when you dont agree. 😏

[outer scarab]

imagine being so bitter that other people are enjoying a game

[sullen gull]

They are well known as the local negative nancy

[upper gale]

Speaking about slide jumping, was it changed slightly recently? I noticed holding down crouch in the air now lets you b-hop much smoother than before. Well like it keeps it's momentum. Very good change

[maiden agate]

Idk man I don't care about things being "exploits" if they feel good to use and fit in game

[frail sleet]

it was buffed in 1.1

[reef basin]

I want a balanced game, I'd like canons to be removed/nerfed 🤷

[upper gale]

Epic

[dense violet]

and now you're moving the goal posts of your arguments.

[sullen gull]

Ahh, and and the whole gang comes out 😏

[maiden agate]

My argument is that its fun so its fine

[outer scarab]

I want paint to only be used to paint paintings that are realistic looking. Abstract should be banned

that's what you sound like

[dense violet]

no first you were trying to justify it, now youre trying the 'fun' defense.

[hard ivy]

I wish they'd just get yeeted off the server but they'd probably make a new account and keep being an asshole

[dense violet]

that's moving the goal posts

[maiden agate]

I just compared to other mechanic that seems to be an "exploit"

[outer scarab]

cool

[frail sleet]

there's a weird lack of moderation on here for an official server, just makes it troll heaven

[outer scarab]

make your bug report and stfu then? no one cares you dont like the game

[hard ivy]

I've only seen them react when pinged

[honest ridge]

anything i should be doing while waiting for the pod in tier 1 and 2?

[shadow torrent]

I have the sudden urge to mention MK3 pipes ...

[hard ivy]

Explore

[outer scarab]

Yah expand your base

[dense violet]

build stuff? explore?

[shy mulch]

Is there a way to speed up portals? Sometimes they are almost instant, sometimes I'm just sitting there looking at a whooshing screen for like 20-30 seconds, I'd be quicker in a hypertube

[frail sleet]

I don't expect mods to read all channels everyday (i mean i would, but i wouldn't expect it of others). When it comes to stuff like tickets not working and DM's being ignored it's not good though.

[outer scarab]

If you have to hand craft anything or wait for something to be made, you aren't automating enough

[sullen gull]

They have even said they haven't played for a couple of years apparently outside of some supposed "speed run" when 1.0 was released 🙄

[hard ivy]

Get a faster SSD 🙃

[upper gale]

Maybe take a look at the MAM, any stuff you can unlock

[shy mulch]

Is it actually limited by disk read speed? 😬 Wow

[outer scarab]

I wait to get jet packs to hunt MAM stuff

Also they added solid fuel to power the jet pack so that is OP

[hard ivy]

I'm not actually sure, but I after moving the game from my SATA SSD to my NVMe SSD, the portals feel a lot faster

[balmy scarab]

Go explore. Lot's of cool stuff to find

[outer scarab]

explore with a gun and a jet pack though

[maiden agate]

Get them juicy spheres and slugs

[balmy scarab]

Or gather leaves/wood for your power

[shy mulch]

Hmm interesting

[balmy scarab]

(since you're on tier1/2)

[outer scarab]

Cut down all trees, green things are just fuel that hasn't been burned yet

[balmy scarab]

I recently started a new save, I'd forgotten how much I absolutely hate biofueled power haha.

[rustic hare]

it makes alot of sense since it's forcing the world to load where you are traveling to

[outer scarab]

if you make an automation for biofuel, it's much easier

[balmy scarab]

Yeah, I have that, I still have to fill the containers with wood/leaves though 🙂

[dense violet]

that's the point of it 😛

[outer scarab]

I mean you are dumping into it right? You shouldn't have to fill it often

[upper gale]

Real... I got lucky though because there's a lot of mycelia where I am, and that converts to biomass at a very good ratio

[outer scarab]

I usually make 16 biofuel burners and by the time one load of wood is finished i'm already at coal

[shy mulch]

I love collecting leaves and wood for biofuel

[outer scarab]

Then i convert it into jet pack fuel

[balmy scarab]

I have 12 burners in my current save, with one container for wood, and one for leaves

[outer scarab]

not having to manually load biofuel burners is SO nice

[balmy scarab]

And all turned into biofuel of course.

[outer scarab]

when I play with friends, I usually just give a chainsaw to one and tell him to go fuel it

[hard ivy]

A stack of solid biofuel lasts at least 50 minutes in a bio burner. It wasn't that bad

[outer scarab]

there is always a friend who likes chainsawing trees

[frail sleet]

I think a lot of the biofuel stuff comes down to scaling and gameplay speed

if you want to take twice as long building stuff then you need twice as much fuel to cover that, but then you need to gather fuel for twice as long which is even more time that you need more fuel for unless all of your stuff shuts down.

It goes from comfortable to overwhelming pretty fast if you take your time or if you try to automate large quantities of stuff.

When i first played i was also unaware of how crazy the chainsaw is, and how important it is to turn leaves/wood into biofuel in all circumstances before burning any. That made it take like 40% of my time gathering fuel whereas rn it's more like 10% 😛

[outer scarab]

I usually filled it with leaves though 😛

[balmy scarab]

I am currently at Phase 1, but haven't started building my factory that produces the parts for it yet... I want to plan it properly, this time, and not just build a jumbled spaghetti mess

[outer scarab]

your first base will get deleted anyway

you will rebuild when you get to MK3 belts and MK2 drills

[balmy scarab]

On my last save it got way to messy by phase 3, so I started a new save

[outer scarab]

I would spend a lot of time making my coal power look nice just to have to remove it all as soon as I got to oil

you can mass delete things you know

[balmy scarab]

Tried to build one big factory, that did everything, but it got so confusing

[outer scarab]

yah mega bases aren't for new players

[balmy scarab]

So this time around I'm building smaller factories that produce one thing

[sullen gull]

Only up to 50 items at a time. And then have to deal with all the reclaimed parts.

[hard ivy]

Why would you remove it?

[outer scarab]

steel

[hard ivy]

Get different coal?

[upper gale]

Further away coal

[outer scarab]

i like having all my coal go into steel

and i hate trains

[sullen gull]

Naaah aluminum beams 😀 ♥️

[hard ivy]

🙁

[shadow torrent]

I didn't automate anything before i got coal for my second run. I hate biofuel that much.

[outer scarab]

I mean, by the time you are at aluminum, sure

[hard ivy]

No beams > alu beams

[outer scarab]

have you seen the mod that makes the game harder by making realistic part requirements for everything and all mines are impure composites

[sullen gull]

Can't really get away with no beams though

Singularity cells for example

[hard ivy]

Set up one production when you unlock them and that's all you need

[hard ivy]

Those need pasta, DMCs, plates and concrete
I don't see any beams

[outer scarab]

I like to bus all my boxite to one spot and make all the alluminum I can at one spot

[sullen gull]

To make pasta, you'll need heavy frames...

[hard ivy]

Encased pipe

[outer scarab]

With alternate recipies you can make heavy frames out of only iron

[sullen gull]

Eh, thats fair. Forgot about that lol

[hard ivy]

You need limestone too
But yeah, you don't need steel

[upper gale]

Iron pipe into encased pipe is my favorite

[cobalt blaze]

Hello can I ask in which chat is for discusions about starting a new game with someone?

[outer scarab]

i mean there is a LFG

maybe try that?

[sullen gull]

Heh, and actually what im doing with my current build making cells now that I thing about it.

[fossil ice]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout #1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[sullen gull]

Nah, that was me

[outer scarab]

oh nvm i thought it was automated

I liked doing the random groups with people but everyone wanted to do a mega base then they got bored after 2 days

[upper gale]

Sounds about right

[outer scarab]

Satisfactory The Game.... Also known as "OMFG is that the sun?????"

so with that I have human things to do that require me to get up

[upper gale]

Is a game but feels like a job sometimes

[outer scarab]

Have you played job simulator games?

[upper gale]

Yea 😭

I like them but, also don't want to

[hard ivy]

Crime scene cleaner my beloved

[outer scarab]

lol that game did look fun but I think you need friends

[cursive totem]

btw why do mk3 belts carry 270 items instead of 240

[hard ivy]

Pretty sure CSC doesn't even have multiplayer

[outer scarab]

reasons

I mean in general

[outer scarab]

I think it has to do with drill output

[cursive totem]

but those just double normally?

[hard ivy]

Would be nice if we got 30*2^n belts but unfortunately no

[outer scarab]

Or a teliporter for items 😛

invisable bus

[hard ivy]

It'd have to be even slower than drones

Not sure if it'd be worth bothering with in that case

[outer scarab]

actually the one thing I wish they did was make the space elevator the sinc because it feels like you should be shipping your goods off world

[hard ivy]

That was the original idea

[outer scarab]

well it was the right idea

[hard ivy]

But they didn't want to force players to ship everything to one central location

[outer scarab]

But that's part of the fun

[upper gale]

It's actually a nice number because it can do
120+120+30=270
Or
270/45=6

[cursive totem]

hm ok

[outer scarab]

the sinc should be a challenge not a way to remove backed up lines

My friend can't ballance water pumps so he literally just makes wet concrete and sincs it instead of doing math to fix his water pumps

[hard ivy]

Imagine how annoying oil would be without sinks

There's no way to make fuel without a solid byproduct

[outer scarab]

Can't you just make more fuel with the byproduct though?

[atomic notch]

No?

[hard ivy]

fuel from resin? No?

[outer scarab]

I think i have that backwards, You can make plastic with fuel byproduct that makes more plastic

honestly I am always so starved for resin that it would never back up for me

[hard ivy]

Then you're not using the most efficient recipes

[outer scarab]

I had to go out and make pure plastic factories to get more plastic

[atomic notch]

Lol

[outer scarab]

I mean its efficent for power

which I prioritize

[upper gale]

Just realized it's nice for a conveyor splitter that's splitting three times

270/3=90
90/3=30
Or if you need 45 then
90/2=45

[outer scarab]

do people actually use split trees?

array is so much easier

[hard ivy]

Power is just Oil -> HOR -> D(P)F with some resin byproduct

[atomic notch]

People do whatever they want lol

[hard ivy]

If you're making plastic/rubber, you tack on recycling on the end of that

[outer scarab]

sure but why make the game harder for you

I think it was computuer parts that ate up all my plastic

Cant think of what that factory was making anymore tbh

[atomic notch]

The game isnt that

[outer scarab]

I kind of threw together the last parts of the game really quick to end it b/c my friends were getting bored

[atomic notch]

Hard

[outer scarab]

is it suppose to be hard?

[hard ivy]

I wish it was

[atomic notch]

Just makin it more fun

[upper gale]

It is easier, I manifold most of the times. It's just sometimes you want something specific, or you want to use every bit of the resource. That's when math comes in, (or online tool lol)

[outer scarab]

I mean, there is a hard mode mod

[hard ivy]

There's a difference between tedious and hard

[unreal sand]

I have completed the supercomputer factory

[outer scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eTIxWO_LU4

watch this

[atomic notch]

Im not playin mods lmao

[outer scarab]

yah but it makes it hard

which is what you wanted

[rustic hare]

in vanilla you could easily do 288GW with just 2 pure oil nodes, leaving alot of other nodes to play with and make plastic out of

[atomic notch]

Prolly just makes it more complex not hard

[outer scarab]

a lot is 2 words

[rustic hare]

people understand it either way, doesn't need to be nitpicky

[outer scarab]

peopleunderstandalotofthingsdoesntmakeiteasytoread

[hard ivy]

Yeah, unless you utterly waste it, there's plenty of oil available

[atomic notch]

Is satisfactory+ even up to date tho?

[hard ivy]

Updated recently iirc

[rustic hare]

if you can't read alot as a lot then you have problems

and that's on you

[outer scarab]

yuo wuod be surpriszed waht ppeople cann understkhandl

[honest ridge]

what should i go for first in tier 2

[outer scarab]

automation

[hard ivy]

Why do people defend being wrong? Just do it right the next time, it's not that hard

[rustic hare]

I know, which is why you being nitpicky about alot vs a lot was not asked for nor even needed

[atomic notch]

Bc im never wrong? Duh

[upper gale]

The hostility over missing a single space in text 😹

[outer scarab]

you need everything automating at large quatity

[hard ivy]

Except space elevator parts

[rustic hare]

just leave it and move on tbh, it's just a space, everyone can understand and read it

[outer scarab]

yes but keep the space elevator factory parts b/c you still need them all game

[hard ivy]

I just handfeed 1 machine making them whenever I need them

No point in fully automating them imo

[atomic notch]

I didnt even properly automate most the space elevator parts

[outer scarab]

I mean, there is a point, it's called doing other things

[sullen gull]

I usually do for the coupons 😏

[outer scarab]

if you have to hand craft anything in the game you arent expanding the factory

[hard ivy]

I sink overflow from all factories and it's more than enough

[outer scarab]

and the factory must grow

You could sinc all ore directly from the minner to the sinc, there you won the game

[hard ivy]

*sink

[upper gale]

*a lot

[gusty bronze]

first, jump on ADA's desk, stare at it, poop and flip it off, then sink all resources for the puppies and kittens in to tickets

[sullen gull]

Beat me to it 🤣

[honest ridge]

ok... so does that mean part assembley or logistics or what

[atomic notch]

To be fair i didnt have the manufacturers for sam fluctuators

[rustic hare]

how to play the game is really subjective, having an opinion battle doesn't really work most of the time 🤣

[hard ivy]

More complex items are worth more points than the ore they're made of

[rustic hare]

uhh, basically everything you can think of doing, you should do

[outer scarab]

You want all parts to be made in large quantities

[upper gale]

At least it keeps the chat active I guess

[outer scarab]

but time is infinite, so getting to infinity faster doesnt matter

[gusty bronze]

only losers use trains, real players run belts everywhere!

[outer scarab]

Trains are slower than belts

[hard ivy]

Last time I checked, human lifespan isn't infinite

[rustic hare]

I know that is a half-assed answer, but that's the game, you create the objectives yourself most of the time, besides the ones that the game give you, how you play the game is your way, but if you want an opinion, I can give my experience, what phase were you on again?

[outer scarab]

Was there an infinite number you were trying to reach?

[gusty bronze]

I mean theree is a running theory that you are indeed infinite and that every time you "die" you move in to an adjacent universe where you are still alive until you get to the point of infinitely dying

[outer scarab]

Are you familiar with Hilbert's Hotel?

[gusty bronze]

so every close call you've ever had and the pit of your stomach going cold, thats just your conciousness merging in to another version of you that didn't die

[outer scarab]

Teliporters in Star Trek cannocally kill you and make a new person, yet everyone is fine with that except Scotty

[gusty bronze]

and McCoy

[upper gale]

Can't believe you were out here correcting other people's spelling haha

[honest ridge]

ive got 120/min of iron going into 3 smelters, should i use 2 for plates 2 for rods and make some rods into screws?

[deep pier]

Will the coal generator make water run out or is the water inf?

[outer scarab]

is it really a spelling error?

everything is inf

[honest ridge]

aslong as the pump has power it wont run out

[outer scarab]

which means you should never turn off the power

because kick starting a base when the pumps are off which are needed for power is a PAIN

I usually leave biofuel gens next to my coal on multiplayer just to kick start because someone wants to start steel before oil

[upper gale]

Sink points are the only reason to keep them on really

I let my factories shut down when it's storage is full

[outer scarab]

factories yes, power no

[upper gale]

Unless sinking something

[outer scarab]

anyway I was suppose to get up like 30 mins ago

later all, enjoy your factories

[subtle pulsar]

HALLO

[slate python]

Who here uses boot camp on mac to play satisfactory

[atomic notch]

No but i use proton on linux

[upper gale]

Thinking about the chat from earlier about difficulty. Maybe a real difficulty would be, a self-imposed power limit, depending on while phase you're on. Not allowed to make more than x amount of power until next phase

If the limit is set fairly, you have to think about how much power to allocate to each factory. Turning off the power for some factories. Or keeping everything on but not making too many machines. Using any optimizations you can to stay below the limit. You'd use only a single power grid to keep track of it easier but I mean, I always use a single power grid

[slate python]

Does you game run ok

[atomic notch]

Yeah

[slate python]

Oh mine starts off fine but then gets bad

[atomic notch]

My pc sucks so i always gotta optimize the settings

[slate python]

What do you mean optimize

[atomic notch]

Like make it run better

[slate python]

How

[atomic notch]

Settings

[slate python]

I have all my settings on pretty much the lowest thing possible

[atomic notch]

Yeah

Same

[slate python]

Oh

[unkempt blade]

Have you tried adding some decals of fire and lightning bolts and dragons and stuff like that on the case? It works for cars

[slate python]

GET OUT

and yes I do have that on my pc

just the lightinbolts

[atomic notch]

Intel mac?🤢

[slate python]

Apple Mac

I got it from Apple

Idk the difference between Intel Mac and Apple Mac

But it is the one everyone calls potato

[lost cloak]

Is matter conversion op?

seem like an odd feature

[unkempt blade]

they stopped doing the intel ones in like 2019~ and started making their own CPU for newer ones

[rustic hare]

the cpu, is it apple M1, M2, etc or intel smth

[arctic socket]

is there a way to make the zipline permanently ride so i dont have to hold down the mouse button?

[rustic hare]

big power poles

also, right click holds it open

[arctic socket]

right click holds it open -> thats what i was looking for i think, ill test it out later (-:

thx

[green crypt]

hi, i'm planning on making a crystal oscillator factory, which will supply my future computer, radio units and turbo motor factories (this is my first playthrough btw), but i have this problem anytime i plan on start a factory, it is that i don't know how many should i do

[slate python]

I think intel

[green crypt]

idk if this is the right channel for this type of questions

[sullen gull]

It's not "wrong". Just that #math-and-meta may be more suited

[leaden turret]

I just start with planning to make one machine's worth of an item.

[shy mulch]

I have an nvme drive already, gonna monitor read/write rate while I use portals and see if it spikes. Autosave also takes ages so disk usage does seem likely bottleneck. But not sure how to improve that

[leaden turret]

and then it expands to however many of an item other recipes need

[slate python]

Actually off topic tech is better

[rustic hare]

does yours have dram? make sure it's getting the full 4 lanes of pcie it wants

[shy mulch]

I have no idea what that means lol

[rustic hare]

I leave space for expansion, or overclock later when I need more, just make your factories scalable so it can be expanded on demand, and always OC your harvesters to max

[green crypt]

idk what do u mean by '' make one machine's worth of an item'' bc i have some trouble with the idiom

[shy mulch]

the amount that one machine makes without overclocking

[honest ridge]

how do i go into photo mode

[green crypt]

ah okay

[leaden turret]

recipe says "makes x amount", for a given machine clocked at 100%.

doesn't mean I have to only build one machine for the output (can do 2 at 50% etc.)

[sullen gull]

Umm, from what it seemed, they were talking about making parts for the game. Your discussion on CPU's maybe, but again, you're talking about optimizing this game, so shou l d be fine imo.

[rustic hare]

you can start with googling your drive model + dram which will improve read/write speed for frequent files, and mid-high tier motherboards will have the pcie run right to the cpu for the top most or more nvme slot, which have the highest speed, and other slots to the chipset which is slower

[green crypt]

k, i'll make it to be scalable, i just wanted to know if it is a very highly demanded item, justo to make like a lot of it so i dont need to come again and make the factory bigger

[rustic hare]

it'll get demanded more when you get into early-late game with radio controllers, turbo motors and stuffs

[shy mulch]

half of that message is in chinese to me, I'll ask chat gpt to explain in more detail like I'm a 5 year old 😛

[sullen gull]

Crystal oscillators are used quite a bit throughout. It just all depends on how many of the later items you'll want to make.

[zenith pecan]

I'm not seeing any chinese there 😜

[green crypt]

okay, well, tysm to all who answered

[rustic hare]

I usually go "I think this number looks good, and isn't using more resource than I can produce" 😂

[zenith pecan]

I never did anything with my oscillator factory that's feedin 60 to depots.

[atomic notch]

Hope i got enough resources for this

[green crypt]

i think i will make it so i don't have any item or resource to be in more than a belt, which in this moment is 480/min

[sullen gull]

Lately I just pick a spot, see what resources are "near", then see how many late game elevator parts I can get, and scale from there.

[rustic hare]

I'm in phase 5 and is still building iron farms.. this time around 6-10k ish ingots per minute

[atomic notch]

Nice

[sullen gull]

60/min CO's is a good sized factory lol

[atomic notch]

I just been doin lots of planning lately

[gusty bronze]

1 bajillion million occilators per minute

[zenith pecan]

That project got away from me, there is a video clip of it somewhere in this discord, I'm at work chatting on my phone, so seeking it out is too much of a pain.

[green crypt]

isn't it better to just make the iron ingots in the factory instead of in place and then distribute the ingots?

[rustic hare]

where would you need iron ores but the converter really? make the product in-place as much as you can then distribute is my way of playing

[green crypt]

i haven't even tried trains yet, like my OC factory will be the first on having trains

[rustic hare]

definitely should have a train network

[green crypt]

yeah i will start the network feeding plastic and rubber to my OC factory

[sullen gull]

Lol, I am also at "work"... was supposed to be training these guys how to program their robots, but they decided to load the line up to paint rockets instead.... so im standing around doing nothing 😒

[honest ridge]

how is my iron smelter at like 50% efficnecy when its always got 3 in it

[rustic hare]

easiest way to answer would be to look at its UI as it's functioning, and see when it stops, also efficiency takes time to update

[zenith pecan]

I'm running tests on a laptop I just finished repairing, colleagues really don't treat the gear they're issed with respect, to they end up on my desk to fix.

[honest ridge]

i am and as soon as it ticks to 4 it ticks back to 3 again

[atomic notch]

Why you got weird background music in ur vid lol

[sullen gull]

Because it's snazzy! 🤣

[zenith pecan]

Hah, you found the oscillator factory near the two slender towers I take it 😜

[atomic notch]

#screenshots message

Yeah

[honest ridge]

do i take the fine concrete recipe or 6 inventory slots from the hard drive

[zenith pecan]

That build really got away from me.

[atomic notch]

Yeah i can see that

[rustic hare]

depends on what you are lacking, but if it was me right now I'd reroll, wet concrete is better imo

[atomic notch]

Ill do a vid when i finish my cube

[honest ridge]

alr now its cast screws or fused wire

[rustic hare]

cast screw

[honest ridge]

it just gives an extra 10 screws for free?

[rustic hare]

one of the best early-mid game recipes, just falling behind steel screws lol

[rustic hare]

remove one step of turning ingots into rods

[honest ridge]

oh yeah

ofc i only check the hard drive after ive made my reinforced plate setup

[rustic hare]

rolling cast screws so soon is a blessing, allows for much higher screw throughput with less machines

[zenith pecan]

I used the regular screws and rip recipe with my oscillator factory because the numbers worked.

[honest ridge]

WHERE DID MY DOG GET A NUKE

[rustic hare]

from sombody's corpse, maybe next to a crash site

[gusty bronze]

first time owning a dog?

[hard ivy]

they used to bring you radioactive waste 🤣

[toxic spruce]

Was it changed?

[rustic hare]

imagine you are in phase 2 and your dog is like "want to die?"

[upper gale]

Might wanna be careful, the "all recipes are good" people might come after you. They will get offended if you call one recipe better than another
-# joking, mostly

[rustic hare]

ngl getting a dog early and sinking those cooling systems are sweeet tickets

[rustic hare]

just put "imo" as a safeguard

[honest ridge]

can anyone help with getting a 60/min screw conveyer from two 50/min

[upper gale]

Exactly😩 which you did so props

[rustic hare]

you got smart splitters?

[upper gale]

Belt balancer moment

Or compressor... idk what they're called anymore

[frail sleet]

go unlock clocking and merge 2x30 (or merge 2x50 and accept less power efficiency)

[honest ridge]

nope...

[rustic hare]

got a solution, posting it in pictures

[upper gale]

Wait uh

Actually

[covert vault]

Experimentall branch patch today?

no patch notes?

[upper gale]

Just combine the two 50's so you got 100
Then split it and make sure to use mk1 belt. It will take off 60

[vague burrow]

I'm setting up an aluminum factory, and I wanted some feedback on whether or not I'll have issues with the recycled water. Can I post a picture here for feedback?

[honest ridge]

oh true actually

[covert vault]

no pictures here, have to post in #screenshots and then link it.

[hard ivy]

don't merge fresh and byproduct water, or if you do, use a VIP

[honest ridge]

wait wont it just split back into 2 50s cos it does it evenly?

[hard ivy]

splitters can overflow. if one side only uses 40, the other will get 60

[rustic hare]

but.. how are you imposing the 40 limit on the other line?

[hard ivy]

with a machine that consumes 40?

[vague burrow]

Here is my current aluminum setup. I'm not sure if this will cause issues for me though: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1413159299529707641/image.png?ex=68baeaa8&is=68b99928&hm=96f8198e937ca1f9001d3108c13c70cef9b85c16bfbc302881e63748176845c8

[hard ivy]

that's how manifolds work

[rustic hare]

but I'm assuming they wants a 60 line for usage and dispose of the 40 line?

[hard ivy]

they havent specified 🤷‍♂️

[rustic hare]

which we should ask

@honest ridge do you use the 60 line or the 40 line?

[hard ivy]

but even then, you can use a smart splitter to prioritize the 60 side

[rustic hare]

they just stated they do not have a smart splitter

[hard ivy]

but they could get them

[brave flax]

hi guys

[honest ridge]

60 for reinforced plates

[upper gale]

Ideally you either want the 40 to stay backed up or just consume 40 or less

[hard ivy]

or you can use a belt limiter lmao

[vague burrow]

Is this something that would work? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1413159299529707641/image.png?ex=68baeaa8&is=68b99928&hm=96f8198e937ca1f9001d3108c13c70cef9b85c16bfbc302881e63748176845c8

[unkempt blade]

This problem is all very confusing but I'm just going to assume it can be easily fixed with factory carts better

[hard ivy]

ah, yes, the "throw shit at the wall to see what sticks" setup 🤣

[rustic hare]

do you still need the 40 for constant usage?

[brave flax]

how can i report a bug from in game?

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @hard ivy

[honest ridge]

na

[vague burrow]

I didn't know if this is a VIP junction. Or if it's just not quite the same thing, ha ha

[lofty juniper]

Should I do my Science assignment or should i play satisfactory

[rustic hare]

then just clog it up and let the reinforced plate use 60, or you can underclock/overclock to reach the desired rate from the start

[hard ivy]

you can check what a VIP is in the plumbing manual (it's pinned in #math-and-meta)

[rustic hare]

ofc the latter, and hand it in as your assignment

[vague burrow]

It's basically using gravity to prevent backflow?

[unkempt blade]

maybe? I would think it might work if the math is right for the water extractor + the out water coming from refineries

[hard ivy]

it's not using gravity per se. it uses a vertical junction bug. which means you have to make sure the junctions are rotated exactly like in the image (look at the welds)

[shrewd palm]

this waste setup just does not stop having problems ig

maybe factory carts really will be the solution

[vague burrow]

Wait, so it's exploiting a bug and isn't based on actualy physics?

[hard ivy]

well, it prioritizes the opposite pipe I'd expect it to so I'd say yes

[dense violet]

well it's an unintended consequence of how fluids are manged, so yes, effectively an exploit.

also probably a weird quirk of how junctions are

the image you linked doesn't look like a proper VIP though

[unkempt blade]

It's just gamesmanship! If they didn't want it to exist they'd change it 😄

[honest ridge]

is there pickup priority? like if theres a paleberry in leaves, it will let me pickup the paleberry even though leaves are infront

[atomic notch]

U just gotta aim good

[unkempt blade]

or just run around mashing the action key repeatedly so you can have more biofuel

[hard ivy]

you can just hold

[unkempt blade]

it feels better to mash it, more rewarding

[honest ridge]

just died in the middle of the stupid termite hill things

gonna be back with nobelisks later

[shrewd palm]

lets hope the problems are because i accidentally OC'd the one machine i shouldn't have

[atomic notch]

Controller has auto pickup mode

[unkempt blade]

ahh neat, that's probably smart for controller

[atomic notch]

Spammin x would suck

Its gonna be hard on console when u dont have a kb to set clock speeds lol

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I'm curious about some of the UI changes for console/controller. Parts of the games don't feel very controller-friendly to me in the PC client

[atomic notch]

You can use the d pad to move by 1% or .01 items per minute but its way easier to just type it in

Controller is nice for us couch gamers

[unkempt blade]

yeah I like controller for like subnautica but the building is definitely the rough part with that and it's a MUCH smaller part of the game than in satis

[silk trail]

question, why did they make it so u can only place 1 drone per station?

[atomic notch]

Since when?

I thought u could place another wile the other one is gone

[shrewd palm]

you can only have 1 drone per port but you can put a drone at the other port in the loop

[silk trail]

ik. but why? seemed always weird...

[shrewd palm]

drones are more intended to be for small amounts (like 600/min max) i think anyways, if you want to go higher just use a train

[sick dragon]

I use drones for either low thoroughput or nodes that are just out of the way and not worth a train station(sulfur caterium sam). I actually process the ones onsite and then ship by drone

[silk trail]

even 600 is alot of drone stations... i had like 40 drones just for sulfur and uranium for my last play through

[sick dragon]

40 drones for 600? That dont sound right

Especially when I can get 480 with 2....

[silk trail]

no i mean all the uranium on the map, plus equilvant sulfur. plus fuel. quickly added up.

[sick dragon]

I so far haven't used a lot of the sulfur and dont know if I intend to. Right now I have a leached iron factory that uses around 2k(when I get mk6 belts. Right now it's not operating at full capacity) but ifk what else ima use sulfur for outside my turbo and rocket plant

[silk trail]

nuclear.

[sick dragon]

I dont intend to touch nuclear if I can get away with it lol

[shrewd palm]

nuclear is only around half i think

using all the uranium is a little over 2800

[sick dragon]

I got plenty of power overhead right now

Im sure t9 will change that when I get there though

[shrewd palm]

with my setup at least, im not sure if im using the optimal waste disposal because im not going to ficsonium

that stuff uses way too much sam and i wouldnt have enough leftover for a space elevator parts factory if i did

[sick dragon]

This is the first playthrough I intend to complete fully. Right now im working on a steel ingot plant so I can begin scaling and make my turbo motors and fused cubes and super computers

[silk trail]

same thing with me. and around that 2500 mark sulfur

[rugged ore]

I’ve beaten the with very little nuclear and a lot of overflow power

[sick dragon]

My current power is 100k with refined power using 800 turbo fuel so

[rugged ore]

You don’t even need 100k

[silk trail]

ya... i have 300k power... im using like 40k 50k... idk why i made my plant so big.

[shrewd palm]

i think ive seen people say you can technically beat the game with like 50GW or something

[rugged ore]

I think we had 50k usage for all of p5

[sick dragon]

I might dabble in nuclear to work with the modular super hv reactors because I just like em that much

[rugged ore]

Yeah we did

It wasn’t a pretty world but 2 of us beat the game in 103h

[silk trail]

i had most fun dealing with nuclear. it all just felt so satisfying...

[sick dragon]

Roll credits

[rugged ore]

Hot take rocket fuel is harder than nuclear

Including plutonium

[sick dragon]

🧐

Idk how when you can skip turbo fuel entirely lol

[rugged ore]

Turbo fuel goat

[shrewd palm]

i've had a lot more trouble with this nuclear plant than i did with rocket fuel ng;

[outer scarab]

the only reason I made Turbo Fuel was because it was a MAM requirement

[shrewd palm]

much more resources, much more complicated, much more problems

[rugged ore]

Idk our nuclear plant took half a day to finish from nothing

[outer scarab]

Nuclear is easy, you build 3 layers of power where you make sure to use up more waste than you make

[silk trail]

meh... less steps. u go through refinerys to blenders to manufacturers to nuclear plants to blenders to partical accels to manufacturerers. and all throught out hunderdes of constractors and assemblers

[rugged ore]

If it just depends what infrastructure you make

[outer scarab]

I dont remember needing constructors and assemblers for nuclear

[shrewd palm]

tbf a lot of those problems came from scuffed beltwork for my non fissile uranium blenders

[silk trail]

for the rods, uranium and plutonium

[outer scarab]

sure but that didn't even take up the space of one nuclear plant

[silk trail]

???? took up almost as much space as the whole nuclear plant for me:

manufacturers alone

[shrewd palm]

#screenshots message the zero constructors and assemlbers in question

[outer scarab]

I may have made most of the stuff off site and shipped in the finished materials just for the final product

[shrewd palm]

and i've got another place just as big for quickwire

[rugged ore]

Tbf I like putting shit as close together as possible so mine was just constructor towers

[outer scarab]

I mean I have a 3x3 bus going to my nuclear to make all the stuff. I think I have some wet copper close to the site, but I didnt need much to make the rods

[pure hearth]

Hey guys, having some issues with the game we rented a server, got it up and working and everything seems to run fine however after a 10-15 min, i cant see any foundations build by other players and the rewards from completing milestones i dont get any of them but they do.
I am on epic games and they are on steam
Any ideas?

[outer scarab]

Turn your multiplayer thing up to ultra

[pure hearth]

It is both my own and the servers

[shrewd palm]

you will if you use all the uranium

[outer scarab]

forget the name of it, its like network something

[shrewd palm]

although if you were using overclocking it would be a lot less

[outer scarab]

wait you dont overclock?

slugs are basically free

[shrewd palm]

didnt have the shards at the time lmao

[pure hearth]

@outer scarab Network quality is set to Ultra

[shrewd palm]

too lazy to look for them

[outer scarab]

thats the best I got then Knackz

[pure hearth]

it seems like a sync issue

[outer scarab]

Bill, you can make shards

[shrewd palm]

ive got them automated now so future factories should be much less in terms of machine count

[pure hearth]

but i have no idea how to fix it

[outer scarab]

yah no clue man sorry Knackz

[shrewd palm]

didnt have it set up at the time i was making this power plant

[maiden agate]

I wonder how do you handle stuff like basic iron/steel? You dont have two resources nearby conveniently and you need good throughput. Do you just ship ores in with train or smth?

[hard ivy]

you build each factory near the nodes it requires

[maiden agate]

I guess I can make multiple steel factories if I need more

[regal lantern]

You can build small factories near resources or move resources over long distances

I run belts up to platforms above the environment and then run everything to a mega factory

[shrewd palm]

ive got the grassy fields devoted to basic resources (for personal use) and then if i need them for a factory i'll just make them on site

[cursive totem]

Is there a list of all items needed to build buildings ?

Like, unique items I mean? Basically want to figure out how many spheres I need minimum for depots

[shy mulch]

A lot of items will require multiple depots, so hard to tell depending on your scale. But generally you can look up the wiki

[cursive totem]

No I know that, I'm just thinking I want one depot for every unique item needed to build stuff. For starters

So plates, screws but not e.g. versatile framework, as I don't need that to build stuff

[shy mulch]

Not aware of anything like that. There aren't really that many buildings though so probably just look at each one, will take 5 mins to make a list

[cursive totem]

Aight

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch category:building+materials

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=category:building+materials

[hard ivy]

didn't make a typo! yay!

[cursive totem]

Wow nice

Wait, why is Biomass in there

[hard ivy]

do keep in mind that this includes everything that is ever used in the build gun, even once

[hard ivy]

yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

that's used for the U-jelly iirc

[sullen gull]

You can also practice independency:

!wikisearch independency

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=independency

[cursive totem]

Ooooh yeah

[atomic notch]

I love the u jelly

It slows down the music so i just afk in there

Also made a koth map where the jelly is the hill

[cursive totem]

Not sure how that relates, but I have been doing this strategy without even knowing it has a name haha

[mystic island]

Dude I want to buy the game's soundtrack but Steam GabeN apparently doesn't want my money

Anyone also having problems?

[nocturne cairn]

Steam crashed due to one game release

[feral geyser]

The menu song is friggin cool, right?

[graceful turret]

skong

[hard ivy]

Skong's at 100k players rn

[tame marlin]

i heard that a miner placed on a pure ore gives more resources is that true

[hard ivy]

It gives double that of normal

Assuming same miner at same clock speed

[regal lantern]

Impure gives half of normal too

[inland zealot]

why do oil processing and advanced aluminium processing both give crude oil as scannable rersouce?

[feral geyser]

I think the one from aluminum processing unlocks wells on the scanner, since that milestone also unlocks the well pressurizer, yeah?

[inland zealot]

ohh okay

also what do i do with uranium waste before researching non-fissile uranium

[feral geyser]

Store it someplace super far away

[tame marlin]

wait how do i build in a pure node it says invalid placement

[past robin]

can I pull swatch data off of a building?

[inland zealot]

destroy the small deposit

[feral geyser]

There might be a clump or something blocking it

[tame marlin]

doesnt it become impure after

[inland zealot]

nope

[tame marlin]

what

[inland zealot]

the purity doesnt change on the node

[past robin]

can you not have multiple custom swatches?

[steady glade]

not without mods

[shy mulch]

Okay I'm gonna try something a little different for my next factory. It's a bit complex and trying to plan it precisely is giving me a headache. So I'm just gonna build some large structures, multiple floors, make it look kinda interesting, and make sure there's loads more space inside than I am likely to need. Then just start booping some manifolds all over the place the way kibitz does and hope for the best

[feral geyser]

I'm currently planning an all-ammos (minus nukes) factory for a friend group, and it's gonna be tedious but fun.

[dim flint]

Anyone know a way to see what buildings have somersloops in them in a big list?

[true mulch]

SCIM lists all buildings and slooped buildings are marked in that list

afaik no way to show only slooped buildings

[feral geyser]

Color them pink or something bright when you make them so you can see at a glance.

[dim flint]

So I have to check every building one by one. Hell no

[thick vine]

this still makes me go crazy why can there only be one custom Swatch and why can't you automatically apply it

[shy mulch]

press F and float around, just need to point at stuff and you'll see

[dim flint]

I guess I need to parse and read through the map file myself?

[thick vine]

only having one isn't that bad, the second part sucks

[hard ivy]

you can dismantle multiple via SCIM, ask for a dismantle crate, and if sloops are in the dismantle crate, they were in one of the buildings you dismantled

[dim flint]

Dude I have thousands of machines in many bases.

[thick vine]

you can quitte easilx check in scim

just scroll through the list

[shy mulch]

they are visually different, you can see the pink smoke

[dim flint]

Ok that's a real solution, kinda jenky though, but it might be easier than making my own tool.

[thick vine]

just look in scim

[limpid cairn]

doesnt it also kill your fps?

[dim flint]

How many hours do you think that would take me to enumerate every building lol?

[shy mulch]

probably not as long as you think

[dim flint]

What list?

[shy mulch]

not mine, maybe yours

[feral geyser]

You have at most 106 out and about, right?

[dim flint]

You're crazy lol

[thick vine]

some were is a list of all buildings, you can scroll through it iirc the slopped ones names are pink

[dim flint]

Oh, that would be amazing. I didn't notice that before. I'll check.

[shy mulch]

I have approx 3k buildings in my world that can potentially have sloops in them, reckon I could check them all in a couple hours

[dim flint]

Waste of time, and risks missing things.

[regal lantern]

Just mod in some sloops and sloop all the things

[shy mulch]

Only a waste of time if you aren't having fun. I'd love that haha

[regal lantern]

Make all your production crazy numbers!

[dim flint]

Nonnono

[dim flint]

It would haunt me not knowing if I missed something. I'm rather obsessive.

Also I really have better things to do.

[shy mulch]

I'm also obsessive about stuff like that, I would check meticulously though and wouldn't miss one. I also have better things to do but here we are 😛

[dim flint]

I just wish SCIM had better building search in general tbh

But I know some people don't even use SCIM, which is wild to me.

[atomic notch]

Man yall want scim to do everything

[dim flint]

I need all the tools!

[regal lantern]

Can SCIM make my coffee in the morning?

[atomic notch]

No dude i dont use third part stuff

[dim flint]

Im also a software engineer, so it comes with the territory.

[atomic notch]

Played terraria for like 100 hours before i gave up and looked up the wiki hahaha

[dim flint]

I did that too lol

[atomic notch]

Scim feels kinda cheaty to me. But like the modelers are fine i get that some people dont have the mental capacity for planning stuff

[restive knot]

is there any way to rename an elevator stop?

[regal lantern]

I've only used SCIM as a map

I have paper and pens around for mad planning

[atomic notch]

Yk theres an in game map

[regal lantern]

Yeah, I used it to show me positions and a few other things of my setup

And for finding the last missing slug

[hard ivy]

using SCIM's production planner requires more mental capacity than using modeler

[dim flint]

I'm mostly just using it for a better map. I still use radar towers and everything in game to scout too.

The tools planner is much better.

https://www.satisfactorytools.com

[hard ivy]

it's a low bar to clear lol

I do not know any planner that's nearly as bad as SCIM's

[deep pier]

are alternate recipe suppose to work the same as their normal part but cheaper or are they something else?

[clear wadi]

oh god why didnt i think of logistic floor

[hard ivy]

they are a different way of making the same item. sometimes better, sometimes worse

[past robin]

@rustic hare
I found a phenomenal factory while messing around
https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/blueprints/index/details/id/10224/name/Rocket+Fuel+Factory
7200 rocket fuel/min, all in a crazy foot print

[clear wadi]

i spent soo much time building this power grit

[deep pier]

why would they sometimes be worst? don't I need to find the thing then research them for 10 min?

[dim flint]

One day after my current project I honestly want to find the game's recipe dataset and build some of my own tools. I haven't done a lot of constraint satisfaction stuff since college and it seems like it could be easier to perfect to my needs in code.

[rustic hare]

me see circle me like

[tame marlin]

how do i make the conveyer pole higher isnt that its purpose

[regal lantern]

Some alt recipes are just worse than the normal for inputs

[hard ivy]

each recipe can be used in some circumstances. just for some recipes, those circumstances are very niche

[past robin]

this might be the most insane footprint i've seen for this

[dim flint]

Usually trading space/energy/throughput in some way.

[dim flint]

This is actually the thing I think the tools modeler does the worst. It gives you no options for how it selects recipes.

[hard ivy]

it chooses based on WP

[dim flint]

What's WP? Weight points?

[hard ivy]

weighted/world points. depends who you ask

[unkempt blade]

yeah but wordpress is an awful choice for gaming tools sites

[dim flint]

I read a reddit post someone did some modeling and came up with a system for ranking the recipes. But I often want to tweak the weights for space savings.

[rustic hare]

which method do you prefer?

• being able to place machines/structures over creatures and suffocate them
  or?
• seeing "a creature is in the way" and switching to your weapon to blast it into the afterlife

[dim flint]

I dont think that's possible with tools.

[regal lantern]

Building everything up in the sky to avoid this problem altogether

[dim flint]

I poke them

[unkempt blade]

I make zoos for the critters

[dim flint]

Do you feed them?

[past robin]

how do I open one of the blueprint files

[rustic hare]

oh, so there are other ways except driving fauna to extinction? Didn't know that

[unkempt blade]

no the factory carts feed them for me

[dim flint]

Like a blueprint you downloaded from somewhere? Or a megaprint from SCIM?

[past robin]

it came from scim

[dim flint]

What file extension does it have?

[unkempt blade]

it's also really fun to use a blueprint to trap stuff while you're out exploring

[past robin]

.sbp

[dim flint]

Ok that's a normal blueprint. Do you know where your FactoryGame directory is? Same place your saved games are. You put it in the folder in your saved game called blueprints.

[past robin]

is it in the "content" folder?

[dim flint]

Try this https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/ywber6/psa_your_blue_print_can_be_found_in_the_folder/

[hard ivy]

not the installation folder, the saved folder

[atomic notch]

Modeler planner its all the same to me. A crutch

[past robin]

do I need to put it anywhere else, or just in the blueprints folder floating

[hard ivy]

I'm just roasting SCIM's planner for being more of a hinderance than help

[dim flint]

Do you at least take notes or spreadsheets?

[hollow tartan]

when you click the first time to set the pole you can look up and it will make it taller

[dim flint]

Put it next to other files that have the same extension.

[plain gate]

i nuke everything

[rustic hare]

that's what I'm talking about, total destruction is the way right

[atomic notch]

All the numbers i need are already written down in the machines ui

Any quick maths can be done in the search bar

[hollow tartan]

youre a true computer amongst men

[atomic notch]

Lol

[pulsar bobcat]

i wonder if any of the devs are playing silksong

[atomic notch]

Although i have created my own math problems that need a decent calculator for. I just use desmos

Like pipe theories

[plain gate]

what kinda pipe work do u need desmos for 😭

[atomic notch]

Hard to explain and it was a waste of time anyways

Tryna find specific values off percentages

[past robin]

how do they allegedly get 7200 rocket fuel/min with only 730 sulfur/min

😭

none of the numbers make sense 😭 but I also can't read russian so idk what it says

[plain gate]

slooooooopie

[atomic notch]

Mostly just solving for x so i didnt have to write it down

[dim flint]

So you do use tools!

[atomic notch]

Yeah i use desmos

Thats about it

[deep pier]

anyone know how to open the crashed drop that needs 40 power? I tried linking a biomass burner and even 2 but they keep shutting down

[atomic notch]

Just so i can make sure formulas actually work

Sometimes u gotta close it and open it again

[hollow tartan]

yea I find the mathing out of a factory to be the fun part of the game to me and all of my factories are calculated in a notepad, but I can see where people would rather use a tool to figure out how to plan their factory and the build part could be the part they enjoy. My factories are ugly and pure function over form lol

[atomic notch]

Cube core

[hollow tartan]

basically yea haha

no spaghetti, but no bells and whistles either

[pallid hatch]

what is your guy's favorite or go to recipe for Motors? Between Motor, Rigot Motor, and Electric Motor?

[honest summit]

at what point of the game do i get some type of way to make power without those biomass generators im tired of the manual labor

[unkempt blade]

roll a dice and see which one fate wants me to use

[pallid hatch]

once you unlock Coal Power in the HUB

[honest summit]

im at tier 2 is that near it

[unkempt blade]

it's probably the first thing you're going to unlock in tier 3

[pallid hatch]

Tier 3

[honest summit]

alr thanks

[pallid hatch]

You can also go construct a bunch of biomass burners, turn all your leaves and wood into biomass using constructors, and then pack them and and not have to worry for a while

[tame marlin]

question about energy if im producing 20MW but consuming 15MW does the rest get wasted or does the bio gen know to not waste resources?

[atomic notch]

The bio gen runs at production

[spice patio]

As in biogen is the only generator that only produces to demand.

[atomic notch]

Ficsit does not waste

[spice patio]

So in that specific case it would only use 75% of listed fuel consumption.

[unkempt blade]

automate another thing! get to 20!

[hollow tartan]

lol ride the edge! live dangerously!

[limpid cairn]

When will you automate golden factory carts ?

[quick verge]

Working on train blueprints for the first time. Ive seen comments that rails cant be included in the blueprints because they dont attach correctly, but they seem to be fairly old. Is that still the case?

[hard ivy]

they can now be attached with auto-connect

[honest summit]

why cant i unlock tier 3 phase 1? i have all previous milestones unlocked but its blank

[hard ivy]

did you complete phase 1?

[honest summit]

no im on tier 3 phase 1, i did tier 1 and 2 tho

[hard ivy]

phase 1 of the space elevator

[honest summit]

oh i need to make the space elevator?

[hard ivy]

it says so in the top right...

[honest summit]

yea i thought that was at the end of tier 1

alright thanks

[sharp plinth]

i just unlocked manual depot uploader but i dont know where i can upload items

theres nothing in my inventory to sugest i can upload

[dim flint]

Great tip. Found about 25 missing sloops.

[heavy pine]

Should be in the lower left of your inventory window.

[hard ivy]

under the depot tab

[feral geyser]

I think you have to upload at least one item through a depot first, then the tab appears in your inventory.

[stray herald]

Anyone else suddenly get an urge to restart after reaching phase 4/ 5?

[small notch]

is oil easy to set up

[true mulch]

before you build anything, check every single recipe the refinery can make

[stray herald]

For power it's very easy and straightforward, for plastics and other things, you gotta be sure to balance both the inputs AND outputs

[rugged ore]

space elevator?

[true mulch]

you need to handle byproducts (if either product backs up, the refinery stops)

[stray herald]

Yes

[rugged ore]

yeah

[small notch]

alr thanks

[stray herald]

It's suddenly so overwhelming xD

[rugged ore]

well

the issue is that the milestones arent hard to get

so all of a sudden your temporarytm factories are your only production and you have this goal of making something 10x bigger

from my experience just do a little bit at a time until the motivation comes back

[stray herald]

ikr I have so many plans of making factories all over, edepending on what I need, and I want a train system to link between them, and it's so much I ahve no idea where to even begimn

[rugged ore]

what do you have rn

[atomic notch]

Yeah but dont

[rugged ore]

ive been like that so many times

[stray herald]

I am building a super computer factory and planning a radio control unit factory while also setting up trains

[rugged ore]

do you know how trains work

[atomic notch]

I been on this world for months. Things take time. Its ok

[rugged ore]

yeah fr i fucked myself over by beating the game in just over 100h first time and now that i want to slow down a bit its hard to stay motivated

[stray herald]

I've gotten lots of tips here on design and trains and efficiency

[rugged ore]

what about signalling

[atomic notch]

Just gotta make a plan and follow it

[rugged ore]

yeah im tryna do a 260gw power plant with rocket fuel

that will also be my main radio control unit production

[atomic notch]

Nice

[rugged ore]

so the first thing i end up doing is making an entire aluminum factory and setting up half the map in trains

[atomic notch]

The way im setting my factory up the only main productions are base materials if i need more rcus ill just make another production line

[unkempt blade]

whenever I get all the phases unlocked in this 1.1 save 😆

[shy mulch]

Can't automate factory carts or statues 😭

[desert bridge]

sorry for the ping but same question but with somersloops

[hard ivy]

106 on the map, 2 or 3 for research, 103 or 104 left
(one research costing 1 sloop is skipable with little loss)

[small notch]

say i make a manifold for 4 machines with different intake amounts will it still work

k ty

[deep pier]

I keep dying on the way to the deathcrate any tips for living longer/getting there faster?

[shy mulch]

Hate that I make massive factories but they always look so basic. I'm so un-artistic

[shy mulch]

Use scanner to check for aliens so you're ready for them

[rugged ore]

jump over mobs

[dim flint]

I'm putting off starting my new electronics factory because I'm scared I'll learn I messed up something and everything feels really good for the moment.

[deep pier]

maybe I did it wrong but can you jump over the big bull things and if not then how do I dodge because their air seems way better then the small ones?

[rugged ore]

blade runners

[rugged ore]

make it

[hollow tartan]

I would say go exploring, upgrade the dimensional depot optimize blueprints and figure out power problems, then scaling wont feel that overwhelming. The begining of the game is fun, but getting to the later half is super rewarding

[dim flint]

It's going to be pretty large. And I guess part of my dilemma, is that I can't make the super computers yet, since I haven't set up the whole iron side of the factory.

[rugged ore]

set up all the low tier production before starting high tier

right now you arent making an electronics factory youre making an iron factory

[dim flint]

39x assemblers and 24x manufacturers.

[rugged ore]

making supercomputers is as simple as placing conveyor belts and manufacturers if you have everything else done

[dim flint]

Yes, but I have nearly everything. Supercomputers are just a single manufactuer I could pretty easily leave the space for and work with later.