satisfactory

[uncut trail]

10 hdds left to scan

[peak wasp]

i had it minimized :/

[fluid sapphire]

classic

[hollow tartan]

sorry hard disagree, they soo smoooth

[hard ivy]

I genuinely use the jetpack over the hoverpack when I'm not playing modded lol

[hollow tartan]

jetpack for shmovin, hoverpack for buildin

[hard ivy]

without modding the hoverpack to be better, I use the jetpack for everything

[uncut trail]

holy shit

i got heavy encased frame

wife will not get beat today 🤞🏻 😂

[warm phoenix]

is this game playable in steam deck?

i tried once but got stuck in title screen

[atomic notch]

Bro imagine touching a woman 🤮

[uncut trail]

i do NOT relate

is 50 computer in a min good number

[hard ivy]

for what?

[uncut trail]

for everything i seem to fall short on computers so might as well fix while scanning hdds

[hallow fox]

Why is the poison flower so unbelievably creepy?

It somehow scares me more than stingers

[hard ivy]

I wouldn't automate anything unless I know how much I want and for what

[uncut trail]

wait ill calculate how much computer im using

im using around 30+ on various stuff and making 20 with oc, so to automate it with alt recipes arount 50-60? what would be future proof

[bronze dagger]

how do I make walls and foundations appear shiny but still have their swatch color

[uncut trail]

HOLY SHIT CAST SCREWS

[dusty dragon]

how many gigapower is recommended for finishing phase 3 and unlock phase 4 nuclear generators? would 15g from turbofuel cut it? i'm planning on rails and specialized (one recipe) factories distributed horizontally, the machines are very big

[hard ivy]

why would you want that at tier 7/8 🤣

[uncut trail]

Thought it was good?

[limpid cairn]

why would you want a screw alt in general?

[limpid cairn]

it is good but not good in tier 7/8

[hard ivy]

it's good before steel

[limpid cairn]

since there you can mostly remove screws from everything

[uncut trail]

before steel i didnt even have mam

[feral geyser]

Bro what

[hard ivy]

so I consider it a waste od a drive because it's useful for literally like 5 hours

[feral geyser]

Field Research is literally Tier 1

[uncut trail]

yea ik but i slept on researching till now

[feral geyser]

Wtf

[uncut trail]

deadass

im using around 30+ computers on various stuff and making only 20 with oc, so to automate it with alt recipes arount 50-60? what would be future proof? 🙏🏻

[fluid sapphire]

im not sure thats something anyone can answer really, i only plan to make 30 myself, not use it for supercomputers or anything, and i imagine thats already enough for me

it really depends on what alts you plan on using for more complex stuff

[hard ivy]

if you have to ask how to futureproof, don't bother

[uncut trail]

fuck that mean

[hard ivy]

that's only a question you can answer yourself

[heavy pine]

The semi-joking answer, "Figure out how much you think you'll need, then double that."

[hard ivy]

if you can't answer, nobody can

[fluid sapphire]

doubling can be good for sure

[hollow tartan]

my thoughts are make efficient use of your resource nodes to make what you can then if you need more go find more nodes

[vale grotto]

Question, does the fluid freight platform also stop outputting fluid while docking, or is that only the item platform?

[atomic notch]

Yeah its not really that hard you just place machines down and make stuff

[atomic notch]

Yeah its the same iirc

[vale grotto]

Okay just double checking because the wiki doesn't say that it stops

[atomic notch]

Which wiki

[mortal ginkgo]

ok so for the first time, I saw that.. green Stinger.

the actual big bois. I can confirm. they are big. and I am NOT going back to that forest

[shrewd palm]

you will have to at some point or another

[vale grotto]

The official wiki.gg

[shrewd palm]

i think they're also in the swamp and some caves

[atomic notch]

Oh really? U must not get out much

[mortal ginkgo]

brother blz 😭

[pearl geyser]

Good day everyone, I need help with my factory and would appreciate any support. As a 1 handed player, I discovered a blueprint starter factory to produce basic items, along with a YouTube tutorial from TotalXclipse. Please contact me if you can provide assistance. I am willing to establish a 90 day server for 10 individuals. With my birthday in 3 days, your support would be greatly valued.
https://youtu.be/Q67rfeVUrbA?si=E4u1gS7s9KXglgGb

[atomic notch]

#1201555265942724758

[wise zinc]

How do you get Train signals to switch the direction they are "sensing the track is supposed to be going? Normally I just roll the middle mouse wheel and the signal will flip over to the other side. For some reason though it's just not working and I can't build signals because they are stuck on the wrong side of the track.

[atomic notch]

Theres an arrow pointing the direction its going

[wise zinc]

Exactlly. I want the arrow to point in the other direction. Normally rolling the middle mouse wheel changes that.

[atomic notch]

Hmm

[hard ivy]

place the signal wrong to split the rail, then you'll be able to place it correctly

[peak wasp]

shitty joke, domestic violence isn't funny

[wise zinc]

That works, irritating, but it does, thank you.

[uncut trail]

???

[atomic notch]

Funny to you*

[pearl geyser]

Thx

[limpid cairn]

they are right kinda

domestic violents isnt something you should joke about in a public server

[uncut trail]

Respectfully I just don't give a fuck

It's just the way it is

I'm just... I'm just a messenger

[limpid cairn]

🤷‍♀️

[mortal ginkgo]

Do you guys know a better joke? Here it is: Me missing the target completely with shotgun rebar in point blank range

I have absolutely no idea why I am so bad at this

[uncut trail]

It's just the way it is

[vague dune]

What exactly does the AWESOME Sink do? (I dont mean gameplay wise, Im aware I put items in and tickets come out) I mean in-universe. The description claims it "turns any and all useful parts into research data" but what is research data? What "data" comes from shredding leaves and screws?

[tame comet]

"Anti-Waste Effort for Stress-Testing of Materials on Exoplanets"

So... data on how much effort is required to destroy items, I guess xD

[topaz shale]

I have a feeling that I'm going to have a lot of belts going from one side of the map to the other. That or I decide to just get drone fuels up and running.

[hard ivy]

trains?

[topaz shale]

I only need to transport 20/min of sulfur to my phase 4 factory for making batteries for one of the space parts. I could technically use trains but I only want to use trains for anything higher than 100/min or more.

[fluid sapphire]

if you already have a rail network, the amount doesnt really matter

[tame comet]

Could just have a tractor running around getting it.

[vague dune]

I see, I must've missed it when I achieved the Milestone.
Also... "A.W.E.S.O.M.E." I get it now.

[topaz shale]

Yeah true. My rail network is tiny but I can easily add to it. Might as well.

I am definitely still stuck in factorio mode when it comes to trains. I really need to keep in mind that satisfactory trains are just highly dense and fast belts.

[fluid sapphire]

sort of? never played factorio

i have a train that has a single car that is carrying 15/min plastic, it does one trip every 9 hours

i think

7 hours? something like that

[hard ivy]

should be 7h

[topaz shale]

Now for trains like that, which setting should I even put for the scheduling? I've been doing for it to leave when it has completed one delivery since my trains are actually carrying 2 items. 1 for each car.

[fluid sapphire]

but its cool like, hey look, its mr fred frame again, been a while

ah, i dunno about having multiple items on a single train, i only do 1 at a time

for a single item type its best to leave when fully loaded/unloaded

[hard ivy]

most efficient setting is departing only when empty/full. but you kinda need 1 item per train for that

[topaz shale]

I'm not combining multiple items in a single car, just 1 item for 1 car. 2 cars per train.

[fluid sapphire]

unless they are in the exact same amount, it wouldnt stay in sync i think

with that setting

[topaz shale]

Yeah I might try to split my trains a bit but honestly, having 2 cars per train and just having it depart when a completed delivery is made is still making sure that items are moving at the rate that I need.

[fluid sapphire]

but that is for sure the most efficient setting

avoids so many pointless trips

[topaz shale]

I'm not worrying about the cars being in sync. Since I'm running with such low numbers, I'm not worrying if my train isn't able to get rid of all of what it has as long as items are moving.

And having 1 train move 2 items, it does help keep too many trains on the line at once. I only have like 2 trains going right now so definitely way lower to make a difference.

[fluid sapphire]

if the train can get back before the supply runs out, then it should be fine, i think

right now, sure, maybe you will have more trains later

[topaz shale]

For sure, I make sure that items going into a station are at the rate that I actually need for the factory, which I calculated long before I started building so it should always be fine.

[topaz shale]

Maybe but if the issue becomes worse, a second train network will be built lol

I actually really enjoy making train networks.

Especially after learning how to build a train network that can go anywhere I need it.

My world is eventually going to become a rail mess lol

[fluid sapphire]

separate networks sounds generally pointless, unless its like a small sub network for some very specific thing for the purpose of taking some load off the main network

the capacity rail can handle is so high that for most normal uses you dont need separate networks

[feral geyser]

I need a train-gineer rn tbh

Actually, not quite yet

[topaz shale]

Thank goodness. I also make sure that every 100 meters or so, I use block signals to split the long rail pieces in order to allow more trains to be on a single piece of track for more throughput.

[topaz shale]

I know enough to get by but I'm definitely no engineer with trains lol.

I actually like how train signaling is in this game over Factorio, where you have to use chain and rail signals at every intersection of rail. So annoying to do lol

[fluid sapphire]

100m seems a pretty small gap between signals

[hard ivy]

but what sucks is that the paths are red by default

nah, I do 100m too

technically, the denser the better

[topaz shale]

They really need to change that.

[fluid sapphire]

i do like 150

[severe plover]

im losing my mind, i have a 500 screw input to make 20 rotors/minute however i only have access to 270 belts and im trying to spread 500 screws across 5 assemblers but cannot figure out how to do it for the life of me

[topaz shale]

I'm only eyeballing 100 meters. Pretty much at every other rail seam, which turns out to be closer to 150m or so. As long as the distance between the block signals isn't shorter than your longest train, then you are set.

[topaz shale]

I definitely recommend to find alt recipes to get rid of the need for screws entirelly. Saves your mind later.

[hard ivy]

maybe I should write a bug report on that...
cause it's actually possible to deadlock a single train. no second train necessary

[severe plover]

oh i will be eventually

[hard ivy]

a 2:5 balancer 🙃

(and even tho I put a 🙃 there, I would actually do that)

[fluid sapphire]

or you can plug a constructor making screws before every assembler

direct feed

but yeah, screw hater gang unite

[severe plover]

oh i just did my first hard drive and got steel rotor

fair enough thats that issue sorted

[topaz shale]

My entire factory that makes all phase 4 elevator parts, there isn't a single screw to be seen.

Absolutely beautiful to behold

[fluid sapphire]

iron wire, iron pipe, steel rotor - GOAT chain for motors

[hard ivy]

takes a lot of iron, but being only iron is very nice

[plain gate]

iron isn't in much shortage either

[fluid sapphire]

thankfully there is a lot of iron everywhere

[hard ivy]

yeah, it's just that it takes 30 iron per motor

it adds up quickly if you want a lot

[boreal musk]

even if you use iron only recipe, you wont be having any shortage of it

iron pipe is such a huge change if you want to save coal for diamonds

[hard ivy]

by the endgame, I usually go with electric motor

saves 60% of iron only at the cost of some AI limiters

and 1300 iron is easier to get than 3000

[fluid sapphire]

i am about to start a recycled plastic/rubber contraption, will it spin up on its own? what about if i shut it down, getting it going again?

[limpid cairn]

only at some cost like ai limiters as in ai limiters dont need a shit ton of copper and quickwire

[severe plover]

ended up doing this and it just works

will switch to steel rotors eventually

[hard ivy]

it's 1 limiter for 2 motors. it's really not a lot. especially if I need limiters anyway

[hard ivy]

it can start on its own if you set it up for that

i.e. used the residual rubber

[fluid sapphire]

all machines are empty right now

i just built the thing

[hard ivy]

yeah

if the residual rubber is going straight to the output, then it won't start

but if you connected it to recycled plastic, then it'll start up by itself

[fluid sapphire]

i am basically using the scheme on the wiki page for plastic

[hard ivy]

same with stopping it. some setups can deadlock, some can't

[fluid sapphire]

i built it exactly as it is on the wiki

[hard ivy]

this one?
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Plastic_production_schematic.png

[fluid sapphire]

i find that harder to parse than the other one

but its the same, no?

[hard ivy]

the other one is just a screenshot from SFTools lol

[fluid sapphire]

i mean the planner screenshot

well, yeah

[hard ivy]

the recycling loop is best set up with prio splitters/mergers to guarantee correct operation in all cases

I've been setting it up like this for years and it has never deadlocked or broken

[fluid sapphire]

i just have a smart splitter collecting whats left over from the loop right now

for the rest of it, i mean, the machines produce set amounts, i dont see how it could lock up

long as i make sure not to take too much plastic out, which is handled by the splitter already

[coral sundial]

What a game this is

[hard ivy]

some dumb setups break unless the output is always fully used

[coral sundial]

I need more iron 😭 I have like 180 iron going into my smelters and it’s not even close to enough to make what I need

[fluid sapphire]

i sink it?

[polar pond]

I has dumb question. Why no curved or angled foundation pieces?

[fluid sapphire]

probably super hard to program

[fluid sapphire]

time to find more, and then some

[polar pond]

Could they program a stretchy foundation that curves like belts and pipes?

[coral sundial]

I mean should I just do a whole setup to make rotors at this location

I’ve been doing rotors and reinforced plates

Off one line of iron

[limpid cairn]

overclock your miners

[polar pond]

That's one thing I struggle with. Produce stuff at the node or ship the ore to a main smelter

[white dawn]

Development time / priorities, mostly. They've indicated in the past that they're not opposed to more architectural / decorative pieces

[polar pond]

Ok so they are aware at least

[white dawn]

You can get some curve-type stuff with half-pipe pieces, though probably not quite what you want

[leaden turret]

October 1st, 2024 Livestream
Q&A: Are there any plans on doing building round easier?
https://youtu.be/bekOyuhHZVg

we don't fully know what we want to do to solve that problem like there are many different ways we can do it and Community is very indecisive when it comes to this stuff like what you actually want to see, whenever we ask people about this we get very different answers and everyone is so certain that everyone wants the same thing, cuz like there are so many different ways to build round foundations and so many people do differently and some so many people think that like oh it's obvious we should do it this way, so, it's a very complicated problem is what I'm trying to say and just adding like triangular build pieces or whatever and just slapping that in there wouldn't necessarily solve the problem

[white dawn]

And I'm sure there are mods out there, if you're willing to use mods

[polar pond]

I still have a few achievements to get first before mods

[coral sundial]

How?

[polar pond]

Slugs

[leaden turret]

They don't disable achievements

[white dawn]

Mods don't actually disable achievements, btw, if that was your concern

[polar pond]

Oh well that changes things 🤣

[white dawn]

(I'm not saying you should or shouldn't use mods, just that they don't disable achievements. :)

[limpid cairn]

do you have a mam?

[polar pond]

I try to play it pure the first go round

[white dawn]

Yeah, a wise choice, IMO. :D

[polar pond]

Then we get the mods!

[coral sundial]

Yes

[leaden turret]

I didn't finish ficsmas in time due to work last time round, so I installed a mod to keep it going

[polar pond]

Find blue slugs research in mam build the magic crystal

[white dawn]

(though it's certainly possible to realize you want a certain kind of mod when partway through a runthrough. a "first go round" of Satisfactory could be hundreds of hours, so some folks are gonna want to start adding in mods before being "done". Still good to try and start vanilla, though! :)

[limpid cairn]

research the slugs

[polar pond]

I am 360+ hrs in

Restarted about 5 times so far. Working nuclear tree now

[leaden turret]

Still in tutorial then

[polar pond]

Yeah 🤣

[coral sundial]

Oke I will

What’s a good design for a smelter and constructor factory

Like basic layout that’s good

[leaden turret]

One thing in front of the other

[coral sundial]

Like what

[limpid cairn]

manifold

[coral sundial]

Oke I’ll google that I guess

[polar pond]

I've been building logistics floors more and more recently to hide the spaghetti

[limpid cairn]

!wikisearch manifold

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=manifold

[topaz shale]

I do the same. I don't mind clipping my belts if I can't actually see that that is what I'm doing lol

[polar pond]

Yes yes... If I can't see it it's not illegal 😂😂

[leaden turret]

🍝🥪

[warm phoenix]

Piping upwards is pain
especially when the content doesn't flow steadily

[leaden turret]

Package all the things

[coral sundial]

Why does the output go the opposite way

Of the input I usually do them the same direction

[fluid sapphire]

🍝 cramming a bunch of belts into a basement#streams-and-videos message

[polar pond]

It's your factory build it the way you like

[coral sundial]

Where can I post a pic of a factory

[topaz shale]

My current project is using blueprinted bare rooms with a built in logistics floor and so far, there is a ton of spaghetti just right out in the open. Connecting what is made in each room to another room. Once it is done, I'll be hiding even that.

[coral sundial]

To show u

[warm phoenix]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057

[coral sundial]

Ok I posted it

[limpid cairn]

reverse manifold

[signal shale]

I kinda regret waiting until I had somersloop research to process and start using slugs

[fluid sapphire]

shame to hide all belts, what good is conveyor if cant see item go brr

[polar pond]

That's what the main bus is for imo

[remote plank]

does level 2 pipes not increase the internal capacity but only the maximum flow rate?

[polar pond]

Get a 10 belt wide bus going into the factory

[fluid sapphire]

i dont like the idea of buses in satisfactory, sounds real annoying to manage personally

maybe if belts werent tiered

[remote plank]

is it normal to use a valve to stop the backflow of fluid

[boreal musk]

yes, capacity of pipe depends on how long each segments are

[fluid sapphire]

its not reliable afaik, you are better off designing your pipes so you dont need valves

[signal shale]

To a limited degree, you can make a bus work. Like, a bus tying all of your smelters into a single belt of iron that you tap off of to feed different processes.

[remote plank]

but what if i have another system connected to a buffer tank to store fuel and i link it to help supply fuel to fuel generators if they are full it will just push it into the buffer tank

[signal shale]

as far as I know, you'ree better off using pipe priorities instead to make sure your aluminum waste water gets used up and THEN pumped water.

[sullen gull]

Heya all you nifty Pioneers!

[fluid sapphire]

eventually that buffer will fill up, whats the point?

if its in-line, just in your system

[signal shale]

(specifically, if I remember right, the pipe coming into a junction from underneath gets priority over a pipe coming in from a side or above.)

[remote plank]

whats bad about using a valve for it though

[sullen gull]

Curious, anyone by chance have a Framework 16 laptop, running linux, and have happened to run Satisfactory on it?

[sullen gull]

Valve's can be problematic due to the way they calc things.

[warm phoenix]

Finally tried packed fuel for jetpack and omg its so much better than biomass

[sullen gull]

The liquid Bio fuel? or Other type?

[warm phoenix]

The solid one

[polar pond]

Wait till you try turbo fuel

[feral geyser]

Sonoda tried liquid biofuel and it is better than the solid biofuel.

[sullen gull]

Ahh, yeah, if you can/want, setup a single refinery to make some lIquid bio fuel.

[sullen gull]

TF really sucks for the jetpack. The burn time is horrid. The only two 'great' fuels for the jetpack are liquid bio fuel and Ionized

[feral geyser]

Lol late game, the argument is rocket fuel vs ionized for jetpack (ionized, obviously)

[polar pond]

I don't have that unlocked yet

[fluid sapphire]

turbo fuel is fine for a time, yes, the burn time is bad, but the lift can still be useful

[signal shale]

liquid biofuel has by far the beest duration of any non-stupid fuel, which is amazing giveen how simple and cheeap it is.

[feral geyser]

It's only too bad that biomass can't be fully automated in vanilla.

[fluid sapphire]

liquid bio is great for covering distance, not so much gaining height

[signal shale]

get yourseelf a running start off a belt or something and you can go a long, long ways with it.

[sullen gull]

No worries. When you do, a single refinery pumping into a container/DD will be more than enough

[polar pond]

Indeed

[sullen gull]

It's not intended to do so. The goal is to progress.

[signal shale]

you can just set up constructors for converting wood/leeaves to biomass and, especially with sloops, you won't need it completely automated. Espeecially if you dump alien DNA into biomass once in a while.

[feral geyser]

Absolutely not

DNA capsules and sink

[polar pond]

I like using the alien stuff to make biomass

[feral geyser]

Never turn remains into biomass unless you have used every piece of leaves, wood, and mycelia in the world.

[signal shale]

look, spitters are common, using 3 spitter remains to make 600 biomass is not going to cripple your DNA returns, but it'll fuel a LOT of jetpack time.

[warm phoenix]

Shame all biomass recipe require manual gathering

[sullen gull]

Or one isn't concerned about coupons... which would be insane, but to each their own.

[rustic hare]

there's mods if you want to change that

[sullen gull]

Again, it's designed that way.

[polar pond]

Coupons can always be made

[mortal ginkgo]

I absolutely disagree. Doing just a few minutes of run can give immense amount of biomass.

[polar pond]

And the wild life respawns

[mortal ginkgo]

Which is much easier and better than going around farming trees

Correct.

[signal shale]

I mean... I value coupons, but using like 1 in 10 monster reemains for biofuel is going to be barely notable in DNA resultss, but massively valuable by the time you get to liquid biofuel.

[polar pond]

Especially if you rent a server so the factory is always running 😂

[sullen gull]

While they can, DNA caps are a great source of early game coupons that can let you start making 'pretty' factories much sooner.

[warm phoenix]

Most of awesome shop items are decor anyway
except for goat cassette tape and belt holes

[feral geyser]

It just feels wrong still though to not get DNA points

[rustic hare]

one expedition gave me a full depot of spitters and hog remains

[mortal ginkgo]

just make another run solely for that. there is literally nothing lost since monsters respawn

[signal shale]

if it helps, DNA is infinitely renewable, at least until you pave over the whole world with powered structures.

[sullen gull]

If you're slooping, standard leave/wood/mycellia will last an incredibly long time.

[rustic hare]

spaghetti power grid when...

[polar pond]

Anyone else have the issue with homing ammo for the rifle going to the ground of you're not in the air?

[signal shale]

honestly, (liquid) biofuel and power shards are the first two things I sloop

[warm phoenix]

Using pump does not increase flow speed right

[sullen gull]

OK, laptop is dying while sitting at buffalo wild wings.. gotta jet 🙁

[feral geyser]

Full disclosure, I do have Vanilla Greenhouses, so i'm not hurting for biomass personally.

[rustic hare]

correct

[sullen gull]

No, only headlift (how high fluids can go)

Also, if you need multiple pumps on one line, never snap it to the blue bubble ... place it a meter or two below it.

[rustic hare]

if they implemented internal friction in the pipes and losses... then maybe the pump can help with flow rate

[feral geyser]

Navier-Stokes simulator

[warm phoenix]

My inability to make pretty structure remains true still

[rustic hare]

btw are turbo motors considered mid or late game

[sullen gull]

Lol, no worries, practice makes perfect 😏

[feral geyser]

Late mid-game

[rustic hare]

so neither, but I think that's accurate

[feral geyser]

It is the later part of the mid-section

[signal shale]

Maybe early late game

[sullen gull]

Baah, laptop died.... phone it is.

[rustic hare]

I remember the times I complained because mk2 conveyors are harder to build than mk3 conveyors lmao, now I just don't care anymore

[signal shale]

I tend to think of it as getting late game once you start dealing with nitrogen

[warm phoenix]

Well
now that i unlocked v2 pipe
I should revise my coal gens soon

[feral geyser]

Actually, I might have to change my stance

Turbo motors are definitely early late-game

[feral geyser]

Or do fuel gens

[rustic hare]

having a train system just make logistics effortless

plop down a station, a locomotive, set a timetable, run

[fluid sapphire]

its all the stuff like radio control units, supercomputers, cooling systems, turbo motors, i lump it all into that category

[sullen gull]

Well, not entirely effortless... still need to run rail 😏

[feral geyser]

Wouldn't it be cool

[rustic hare]

well yeah that.. a shitton of concrete every time I expand it 5 depots just for concrete isn't enough lol

[feral geyser]

If you could build bullet trains with turbo motors

[warm phoenix]

Lies
im having a stroke over my station placement and the effect of its causing to my lines

[feral geyser]

They can go faster, but they have to be on special track that can't curve as much as the current track.

[signal shale]

aside from laying new track and sorting out signaling for it...

[rustic hare]

I'm kinda lazy to go in depth now but build proper 2 way lines, those should not have any significant congestion unless designed poorly

it's just path in block out for intersections, and spam block signals along the way, what can be so hard

[warm phoenix]

Well
i suck at blueprinting or future-proofing (or any planning at all)
that should give you which one i am

[rustic hare]

are you a spaghetti lover by any chance too?

[warm phoenix]

i try not to but i can't escape the inevitable jank

Like unplanned ground leak

[signal shale]

I hate spaghetti, but my desire to avoid it can confllict with my desire to avoid long belts. 🙁 I eend up saying "Well, it's kinda ugly, but if I fit this HERE, that saves me running this component from way over THERE."

[rustic hare]

it's kinda funny how subjective every opinion is, not saying any of them is wrong, they all have their own merits, but yesterday when I said trains have the only downside of track investment and they say it isn't a problem since it grows with your need lol

[limpid cairn]

Are there actually only 5 uranium nodes in the entire game?

[warm phoenix]

I think yall will flip out when i showed what i did to the rail

[signal shale]

I kinda wish there was a lower profile rail station, it'd bee nice for fitting rail into some caverns.

[rustic hare]

my strategy is usually to gather local nodes to a factory producing a single item at max speed that the resource nodes allow, then train that product somewhere else

[fluid sapphire]

long belts can look good

[reef basin]

separate fresh and recycled refineries - no valve needed

[fluid sapphire]

it was about fuel generators, not aluminum

[reef basin]

those don't need valve at all

[warm phoenix]

I still havent found a spot for station that isn't miles away from factory and doesn't conflict with floorspace of factory

[rustic hare]

yeah, I keep my belting as straight as possible right to the resource node and gather them into a bus
#screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

looks good, truly we are playing like a different game

[signal shale]

well, you could do the Grand Central Station approach, and just move your factory up vertically until you can have your trains run in underneath it.

[rustic hare]

also started experimenting with rounded corners for buses
#screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

i think for long belts, in particular what looks good is when there are multiple

looks much nicer than a single noodle

i do something like this to run pipes/belts from nodes and between buildings
#screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Again, imo it just takes practice. I've got about 3700 hours under my belt and have only within the last 6 months or so start seriously spending time blueprinting and such. And, not to say it should take that long... I just spent way too long testing and trying other random things/setups.

[dim flint]

I ran out of concrete for the first time in like 6 months today repainting everything.

[fluid sapphire]

it took me about 400 hours before i really got into blueprinting

[signal shale]

ran out ran out, or just depleted your depot and had to wait for more to upload?

[dim flint]

Well my depot is being fed faster than it can deplete, so I guess the former later. But I usually end up with a lot in my inv, so I was surprised.

[lofty phoenix]

I saw a few Sam on the map, but i can't find it

[signal shale]

go spelunking!

(look out for demons if you do)

[lofty phoenix]

Not supernatural

[sullen gull]

Either high up or in a cave usually

[dense violet]

It’s not a reliable use of them

[signal shale]

demons are what I call stingers.

[lofty phoenix]

Tried,no cave ,nothing else more

[warm phoenix]

Feeling pain as i try to craft computers

[signal shale]

where about on the map are you talking?

[lofty phoenix]

At the desert

[signal shale]

dune deesert?

[sullen gull]

Which desert? Dune desert or rocky?

[warm phoenix]

If its rocky, entrance is near the coal nodes at top left of map

[signal shale]

if you mean the SAM up north, the SAM is inside a cave

[lofty phoenix]

Don't see no entrance

[signal shale]

oh, ugh, I can't set priorities on a splitter other than "overflow," right? So if I want plastic to go to a depot uploader by preeference, then to the rest of my factory, and overflow as last, I neeed 2 smart splitters. first one sending to the depot or overflow, and second sending to factory and overflowing to sink?

[fluid sapphire]

a more typical setup for me is "any" for the first smart splitter pointed at the factory, overflow to another smart splitter, which then does "any" into depot and overflow into a sink

that way you get priority order of factory, then depot, then sink

[signal shale]

that would also work, though my depot isn't maxed out right now, so it fills up quick.

[fluid sapphire]

it doesnt matter, the sink will handle it at the end

anything that doesnt fit in the depot will get sinked

[signal shale]

sure, I get you.

[fluid sapphire]

but i dont know what kind system you have, for me the goal is everything running constantly, so in this setup, in order to have anything for the depot, production must exceed what the consuming factory needs

so it makes sense for the factory to be first priority

[lost cloak]

drives are so annoying to research.. they could nerf it to 15 min per drive, but allow us to queue up 5 at a time

[sullen gull]

If you take a look at the interactive map at satisfactory-calculator.com, and enable the 'caves' layer, it will show where the entrances are.

[sullen gull]

I've just got used to throwing one into research and go off to do something else.

[rustic hare]

up at the northwest corner? there's 3 entrances, all at coastlines, one of them require explosives

[sullen gull]

Yeah, thats the thing, we haven't received any specifics as to where lol

[lost cloak]

i always forget, and i dont notice the ding. So it goes like 20-30 min between each drive

times that with 30 drives

[rustic hare]

I'll get my map and mark the entrances and send in #screenshots once my game fires up, it's actually my first node of sam along with 2 or 3 something quartz in there lol

[sullen gull]

Yeah, as do I. To me its only slightly annoying with new saves, where I already have a plan of action and am hunting for a specific recipe 🤣

[boreal musk]

the famous entrance is at the east near 4 normal coal nodes, very easy to spot

while its the furthest, but its the most free entrance

[signal shale]

oh, the rocky desert SAM node.

[lost cloak]

turbo, steel canisters, steel screws, residual fuel

you can add to the list, but there are many "must haves"

[rustic hare]

It's problem with me is it's in a cave and I don't want to do the elevator clip through the roof 😂

[boreal musk]

just belt to outside

[sullen gull]

Eh, for me its usually HOR, and any of the pure ingot recipes that I can think of off hand.

[boreal musk]

or train, the entrances are large enough to fit 2 way rails

[sullen gull]

I train it to the entrance 😏

[rustic hare]

or that.. maybe I'll build a monorail train to train it out

[signal shale]

you can do a train for that one, though it's a tight fit. I think you have to do through and through, is all, not enough room in the center for a turn around AND a station

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I usually just do a single back/forth rail for that one.

[rustic hare]

just do a 2 way monorail train with 2 locomotives on it

[boreal musk]

for me i belt all the quartz and sam to the west exit, and then train all of it alongside the coals

[coral glacier]

Dimensional depot is useful when you have no idea where you are

[sweet tusk]

Can you get more than one custom swatch?

[rustic hare]

alright, who needed the entrances? was it you? #screenshots message

the west entrance need explosives, the other 2 doesn't, go from the coast up, you'll see it

[lost cloak]

does bacon respawn?

[boreal musk]

no

only nuts and berries does

[signal shale]

bacon agaric does too respawn

[lost cloak]

damn so fully renewable huffers are tricky to make..

[rustic hare]

use the other swatches, the structure will be bound to that swatch and change as you edit them

[boreal musk]

you can always use alternate, like alien remains and berries

[sweet tusk]

That's the issue. I don't want the other structures to change

[rustic hare]

my 1-9 swatches are literally just different pipe fluid colors

[rustic hare]

there's 18 of them aren't any of them disposable to you?

[boreal musk]

they dont, they did respawn but thats caused by some updates which regrows all collectibles

[shut valley]

#screenshots message
could anyone give me a quick tip pls lol

[rustic hare]

oh damn didn't know that, bacon restores so much health

[boreal musk]

you can always make inhaler

without bacon

[rustic hare]

don't use vertical junctions unless you understand them

[sweet tusk]

If you can't get more custom swatches, then I guess they're going to have to be.

[signal shale]

Protein inhalers are 100% completely renewable

[lost cloak]

so protein huffers is the only fully renewable one. Which require a crazy amount of nuts

[glad drum]

Hey my fiance is curious how many people here potentially have some form of autism - I'm being accused

[boreal musk]

the belt? are you providing enough coal?

how much coal 4 gens consume?

[rustic hare]

oh belt system, I thought water system 😂

[shut valley]

i think its 60 coal/min

[sullen gull]

I was under the impression those only respawn so long as you dont cut down the tree that produces them?

[rustic hare]

60/min? 15/min each

it's a manifold, you gotta wait for it to fill up

[shut valley]

ah my mistake lol, i shouldve specified
do i just need a tier 2 belt on the farthest left?
also whoops typo

[boreal musk]

60/min, youre using manifold system which will take time to fully saturate

[boreal musk]

correct

[rigid glen]

Add full stacks of coal to each machine, a slow manifold takes a loooong time to fill up

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch cg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[sullen gull]

"Proven" setups for coal gens. They each consume 15/min @100%

[shut valley]

ahh alr thanks yall

[rustic hare]

if it's 60/min, you don't even need mk2, a manifold is just inheritly slow to fill up, but once working they'll go reliably

[lost cloak]

wait what are we talking about? you just set it up, coal is not hard at all

[boreal musk]

that manifold will likely saturate around 30-40 mins, but you can prime it with stack of coals from your inventory

[sullen gull]

Remember, not everyone has the same level of understanding

[lost cloak]

ok so we're dealing with a new player

welcome 👋

[shut valley]

fair point, but i have 10 hours in the game lmfao

[boreal musk]

did you know the average pioneer quit when reaching coal power?

[shut valley]

thank yall for the assistance its much appreciated

[lost cloak]

ah i didnt catch that, sorry after so long im assuming all of us have 2000+ hours 😄

[rustic hare]

dw, we aren't here to boo on you

[shut valley]

ik 😝

[rigid glen]

I actually quit the game when I start thinking about doing a real nuclear setup

[remote plank]

i hit 100 hours now

[rustic hare]

I just said f it, and went full rocket fuel

288GW max power from 4800m³/min of rocket I think?

[rigid glen]

I was able to squeak by on coal, fuel and a handful of rocketfuel gens

[boreal musk]

big nuclear plant project can easily reach 100hrs, burnout is normal

[rigid glen]

If I decide to do another late game attempt I'll def setup a rocket fuel plant

[rigid glen]

Also I am just not that organized. I've watched Kibitz do it twice now, his real super power is organization

[rustic hare]

also I don't OC my machines unless it's required to obtain a good looking layout lol, else I just spam the machine if I needed more output, so my power consumption isn't enormous

[shut valley]

whats the name of that guy that has the actual insane person base
like the massive vortex or whatever 😭

[rigid glen]

Let'

[rustic hare]

Game

[rigid glen]

s Game It Out

[shut valley]

ahhh yes lmao

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I have a bad habit of ' designing as i go'

[rigid glen]

His super spaghetti makes my eyes bleed

[signal shale]

#screenshots for the SAM node in the north of the Dune Desert

[rigid glen]

80% of my factories have no walls or ceilings 🙂

[rustic hare]

dude spent like 10 ish hours on just how his storage looks 😂 goddamn

[signal shale]

(that cave also has a purple slug... guarded by 3 jumping stingers

[sullen gull]

Most of money are 'pretty'. But it takes a lot to get there due to lack of planning

[lost cloak]

i try to make all my non-temporary builds look structurally realistic. So i build out a proper supported foundation, then use less and less structural parts the higher up i go, as its carrying less weight.

So due to this mostly applying to non-temporary builds, same. 80% of my builds without walls or ceilings

[sullen gull]

Put from: tinkeridiot has: image in the search if curious

[rigid glen]

The playthrough I'm doing now has been me trying to place more perm structures and have more resources avail before progressing.

[rigid glen]

His City Skyline vids are amazing!

[lost cloak]

and as per standard procedure, all temprary yank factories that look like spagetti monsters, end up being permanent, and in fact critical for progression far into the game.

[signal shale]

I was going to say, theree's nothing quite as permanent as a "good enough" fix.

[rigid glen]

whimpers no spaghetti....

[rustic hare]

I usually build higher output factory somewhere else, train it back, then scrap down the old build

are there no full foundation corner in this game? only outer corner extension which is half a foundation? :(

[rigid glen]

I really need to attempt a train loop soon too

[signal shale]

foundation corner?

oh, you want a curved foundation piece

[rustic hare]

yeah, I want one that's double, or triple the radius of the current one

and also a curved foundation piece

[lost cloak]

What would be your Nr 1 tip to a new player, here are a few contenders i could think of

• If you see a cave, and hear sounds. Turn around

• Somersloops are a must for producing biofuel, power shards, DNA capsules and some other parts that involve manual grinding

• Unlock parachute as fast as possible, and figure out that you can climb tall mountains with it.

[rigid glen]

I haven't looked at the mods in a long time, I have to assume they have solved curved roads and architechture issues right?

[rigid glen]

three great tip

[shut valley]

#screenshots message
is
a. something wrong with my assembly
b. manifold moment
or c. need faster belts

[rigid glen]

s

[distant pulsar]

don't bottom feed liquids

that sounds weird idk how else to say it lmao

[lost cloak]

what does that mean?

[distant pulsar]

#screenshots message

[rigid glen]

you need a mk2 belt to feed 8 gens, what are we looking at in that pic

[lost cloak]

whats the issue therE?

[shut valley]

ah thats the issue 🫡

[distant pulsar]

liquids are affected by gravity so pushing them up into machines creates problems

[shut valley]

from source to final place in the engine i assume?

[distant pulsar]

you want to go horizontal and even better, feed from the top

[rustic hare]

if I were to order it 1 > 3 > 2, also buy the ladder in the ficsit coupon shop, and zoop it on the go

[sullen gull]

Bottom feeding is fine provided there is enough headlift. Having said that though, i do tend to bring the feed 'up and above' before going into a manifold for refineries per say.

[rigid glen]

Ya, you can only feed 4 gens for max efficiency of the belt

[sullen gull]

Huh?

[rigid glen]

Was meant for bunger, sorry

[signal shale]

Spacebar - if you tap it and let go it will autocraft the craft you've selected in the crafting bench

[rustic hare]

yes thatt, removed the need for a weight on my keeb

[rigid glen]

Same for clicking E when manually mining

[lost cloak]

ohh who remember the good old days of putting a weight on the spacebar 😄

[lost cloak]

same thing, back in the days, you press E, then open inventory

[sullen gull]

This and that you can hold E to collect wood/leaves while running around.

[signal shale]

the ladder as your first awesome shop purchase is definitely some of the best value you'll ever get from it.

[shut valley]

edit nvm you have to start holding e WHILE collecting and then itll continue

[rustic hare]

also, explosive rebar automation + depot as soon as you get oil, it's good af. period
one shots tier 1 hostile mobs and 3 shot tier 2 (excluding hatchers, those are resistant to explosives)

[rigid glen]

honestly, one of the biggest things I learned about was adding a power pole mid-line by aiming at the line, click, then aim at the ground, click. It will pull the line with it when you place

[lost cloak]

Here is another one, if you sneak, you can walk up to the insect spawners and kill them without it triggering. This also works when shooting them, if you're sneaking while shooting, they wont wake up

[glad drum]

#screenshots message had to make a smaller steel spiral within my STEEL CYCLONE (registered trademark) but now I can finally begin to use it in factories!

[sullen gull]

When you go to collect the first batch of leaves or wood, just dont let go of E and it will "autonab"

[signal shale]

to add on to this, it even works (somehow) if you press the crouch button while flying around on a jetpack.

[rustic hare]

yeah but it isn't that fast is it?

[rigid glen]

it's easier than clicking, untiul you get the chainsaw

[rustic hare]

ohh that reminds me, jump boost by crouching + jumping soon after you hit the ground is also a must-learn

[sullen gull]

Some have said they can do it "faster" by tapping E, but too each thier own 🤷‍♂️

[lost cloak]

hmm i was just flying, so i decided to test it with parachute too. That went downhill fast

[signal shale]

not just downhill I eexpeect. 🙂

[rustic hare]

I use it to out-run mobs all the time lol, circling them with cluster nobelisks or explosive rebar

[rigid glen]

Explosive Rebar is my best friend

[sullen gull]

Also, the parachute can be used to 'glide' up on hills/cliffs

[rustic hare]

my only gripe with them is gravity, but you can learn that, and then delay, gotta anticipate their location before shooting, but you also learn that, after that it's an effortless weapon, also clear terrains freaking well, removes the need for normal explosive nobelisks

[rigid glen]

Ex Rebar + LIquid Biofuel = Death Rain

[sullen gull]

Eh, I primarily use exp rebar for clearing flora/rocks. Std or TF ammo for fauna.

[feral geyser]

cluster nobs, anyone?

[signal shale]

another jetpack tip, (though jetpack tips are not neewbiee tips) is that if you get a running start and just tap the jets every time you start to descend, you can go a long ways, much further than if you hold down the button.

[rigid glen]

I find Nobes too wonky to use in while moving

[sullen gull]

Again, for clearing flora/rocks, until I start automating nukes 😏

[vale grotto]

And you can get a running start off or your fastest belt for even more distance

[rigid glen]

but clusters are VERY fun

[rustic hare]

I prefer rocket fuel though it lasts for less time, most of my battles are on ground, and rocket allows me that boost to jump taller than radioactive hogs + avoid spider jumps

[signal shale]

for a NEWBIE tip, mycelia - if you neeed more, get the chainsaw. Most stuff you can chainsaw will give you SOME mycelia.

[signal shale]

that or the hypertubes are definitely in advanced tips, but yup!

[sullen gull]

Alright, bed time. Enjoy all!

[lost cloak]

no it wont?

only in some biomes

[rustic hare]

literally if you hear a spider jump you, just fly up if you have rocket fuel 😂

[rigid glen]

See you Tinker

Making a simple 9 gate hypertube cannon blueprint also makes the game very different

[lost cloak]

PROTECT NATURE AT ALL COST! Never make a chainsaw!

[rustic hare]

I never used the chainsaw, just ex rebars go brbr

[shut valley]

"protect nature"
is playing satisfactory

[signal shale]

aside from actual trees, (and even there, the dead trunks give some mycelia) I'd say you've got better than even odds of getting mycelia from anything the chainsaw works on that isn't purely a plant.

[rustic hare]

I wish the chainsaw could clear the big bubble trees near craters

[signal shale]

I mean, at least we're less dirty than factorio, if only in scale.

[topaz shale]

It is biome dependant. In the grassy fields biome, not a bit of mycelia to be seen.

[shut valley]

lol true

[topaz shale]

Yeah we have yet to turn the water green from pollution.

[signal shale]

grassy fields has the cave of demons, at least, though it lacks old tree trunks, true.

[sullen gull]

Nobelisks

[rustic hare]

it doesn't work, ex rebar or explosives doesn't work also

if you insist then I could try cluster or nuke nobelisk on them

[sullen gull]

If its the 'baby bubbles' then you are correct. Should clear the larger bubble trees though

Gotta throw then right onto the stem.

[rustic hare]

which part of the stem? top? bottom? middle?

just took a train to my alu factory to test it out

[sullen gull]

Afaik, that shouldn't matter. Again, only for the larger bubble
Trees. The small ones are still bugged as I recall.

[signal shale]

by the way, i had a thought - if you are arachnophobic, but also have cats, you may be better off turning monsters completely off so you don't start getting scared by your own cats

[rustic hare]

fr it gives me feline phobia

[sullen gull]

Ugh, I was going to head i to the hotel... but gotta curb that nic fit first 😒

@rustic hare #screenshots message lemme see the top of that tree.

[rustic hare]

just posted a follow up, shooting at the stem is what I was missing lol

[sullen gull]

Ahh, so it worked.. nice

@rustic hare yeah, those smol ones still can't be removed unfortunately

[rustic hare]

yeah the small ones are still bugged

[sullen gull]

Though, I've never tried with using SCIM

[rustic hare]

got a problem #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Huh, odd.

[rustic hare]

yeah all other big bubble trees work, but not that specific one, no matter where on the stem I shoot

[sullen gull]

You try a nobelisk instead of shooting?

[rustic hare]

tried nobelisks too

it's at the sam crater, can you try it on your world when you are online?

[sullen gull]

Strange. I'm unable to play for now or else I'd try

Mew

[signal shale]

she inherited it from a pokemon?

[rustic hare]

oh f me, just rebuilt the steel station and now it's not enough, even with molded recipe for beams and pipes

[sullen gull]

@signal shale meet @unborn gyro ... the meowest of mew's

[signal shale]

I'm going to have to rebuild my depot factory with the floor higher, I forgot to leave room for belting under the main floor.

[sullen gull]

#math-and-meta would be the best bet

[peak wasp]

oh my bad

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I've gotten in the habit of always building things on a 2m foundation spaced 4m up with a 4m foundation for that reason. I do the same in blueprints now as well.

4.37445 yards 😏

Ok, legitimately though, time for me to make like a tree.... ciao!

[signal shale]

honestly, the "4m" foundations aren't 4m tall unless the pioneer is huge, 4m is a bit over 12 feet tall.

[sullen gull]

A pioneer is roughly 3m tall iirc

[signal shale]

what are we, space marines?!

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[rustic hare]

switched to encased pipe recipe, tore down my molded steel beam section and beefed up pipes, the usage is barely below my steel factory's max output now

[clever merlin]

i though each world had a unique seed

so it would diffetn each time but it feels like pretty much it the same world setup

[plain gate]

kinda late, but you can just save edit it copy paste

[signal shale]

No I can't, unless SCIM lets me do that or something.

[plain gate]

yes you can

[signal shale]

how?

[plain gate]

filter Z axis, cut, move foundation up, center on pasting area, paste

[signal shale]

using what, the dismantle tool? I'm not sure what I use to select eeverything I'm wanting moved.

[stray herald]

What is the best path to make a train from the eastern oil fields to the red forest up high?https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1412990431947657317

[warm phoenix]

Am i stupid for training oil residue to base just to make smokeless powder

[stray herald]

@uncut pier Can you not use the rebar gun to kill the character?

[floral sinew]

@uncut pier #screenshots message

you gotta end him

[uncut pier]

ah that worked lol

https://tenor.com/view/gun-tears-cat-point-gun-crying-cat-gif-17741904

[stray herald]

RIP

[floral sinew]

the longggg way around, or build the station up in the red forest and just belt the stuff up

[plain gate]

big big spiral

[feral geyser]

Yes

But also, nah, do as you please

But also, where is your sulfur and coal? (In relation to your oil)

[warm phoenix]

Coal is supplied from rocky desert
Sulfer is trucked from somewhere else

[feral geyser]

I guess it does make sense to bring it all together in one place, at least. But I would just package it and send it along

Ammunition factories are so fun to make.

[warm phoenix]

Once i found good way to supply coal without train

Or find steel alt

[feral geyser]

Did you find the pure sulfur vein in the streams at the northern edge of rocky desert??

[warm phoenix]

Forgot purity but i think yes

[feral geyser]

Nice

[warm phoenix]

Wait
i might be wrong about geolocation at all

[warm phoenix]

#screenshots message

[feral geyser]

No, I misspoke, I was thinking about the dune desert.

[rustic hare]

just pinged you in the screenshots channel, that's a normal sulfur node, part of my rocket fuel supply chain, right next to nitrogen, and coal

[warm phoenix]

Yeh i was like "theres a pure node in rocky?"

[unkempt blade]

people are going to tell you a megafactory like that is a bad idea but they're wrong because a mega factory allows for a higher density of factory cart routes

[rustic hare]

I group whatever needs to be grouped, and modular anything that can be modular

[warm phoenix]

I should get factory cart someday

[rustic hare]

gotta engineer the logistics yknow

[feral geyser]

You definitely should, if only to have a good use for the rounded foundations (skate park)

[agile fern]

rounded foundations are pretty much useless except for factory cart parks

in my opinion

[boreal musk]

thats what i like from watching him, his math might be fucked, but i like how he organize all his build

[dense violet]

They’re a great design piece?
Not sure how they specifically help carts

[warm phoenix]

#screenshots message
Don't question why i did this way instead of laying down foundation like normal person

[atomic notch]

Its fine dude

[static gyro]

really dumb question but can i make a hypertube highway? i want to have 4-8 vertical platforms going pretty high up and then going to a factory far away, but im worried about the shadow itill put, any other ideas?

[atomic notch]

You can do whatever you want tbh

It should work

You can do a cannon straight up to a platform

[static gyro]

thats a thing?

[atomic notch]

Like a normal hypertube cannon but straight up

[rustic hare]

almost couldn't see the rail there dude 😂

[warm phoenix]

Wanted to get the whole segment to image

[rustic hare]

so, basically the hypertube entrance speed you up right? imagine what would happen if you are already going fast in a hypertube, and then get sucked into another entrance, speeding you up even more?

now imagine that but repeated 9 times

you have a hypertube canon

[static gyro]

how would you even know where to make the landing platform?

ngl I guess you'd just test it lol

[white dawn]

Yeah, just trial and error really, if you're going for a specific destination.

When you're at full health, a single fall can't kill you, so you technically don't even need shenanigans

[dense violet]

Fire yourself
Land

[white dawn]

A lot of folks just use the cannon to get up high and then parachute/jetpack to where they're going, though

[latent meadow]

@warm phoenix want to be a bit more clear since point left it like saying somehwere in the world lol

[warm phoenix]

About what exactly?

[stray herald]

300 Nobelisk ready, time to carpet bomb the red forest

[latent meadow]

about the world not being sperate seeds

feels like it each one is same gen each time

i confused wat that means tbh sorry

but when i look at the world the mine areas are the same as well in the world though i didnt clone it

interesting

kind of kills the play though doest it

knowing where everthing is

fair

i think for somone like me it proable wont make much diffent becaue honestly i have bad short term memory so i wotn remember world anyways lol

but it interesting they didnt do this game with seeds in mind but maybe that would been hard with teh way they do the worlds in general tbh

or gased

lol

[warm phoenix]

I havent ventured into south or westside yet

[rustic hare]

everywhere I go, explosive rebar clears

[leaden turret]

Make a conscious effort to not take advantage of knowing where everything is, problem solved.

Not making a bee line for the crash sites makes exploration more natural, for example.

[distant pulsar]

This is a blessing

4000???

[lofty phoenix]

Will we ever had wireless power?

[distant pulsar]

I'm imagining someone with 4000 hours but bad memory who never figures out it's the same map every time

[distant pulsar]

Probably not, but there's mods for that

[white dawn]

You can pretend to have infinite wireless power by enabling Advanced Game Settings and turning the no-power setting on. :)

[rustic hare]

I mean, isn't hoverpacks a kind of wireless power?

[exotic pilot]

Any good satisfactory YouTubers

[rustic hare]

you want scope creep or spaghetti?

[exotic pilot]

Huh

[exotic pilot]

What’s the first one

VRAM?

Mb my autocorrect made it uppercase

Ram?

[tame comet]

GPU RAM (Video RAM)

But I'm somewhat confused. What does VRAM have to do with youtubers? xD

[exotic pilot]

What does this have to do with my question

[exotic pilot]

That’s what I’m confused about

[shut valley]

does a 140 on the raads r test count ("130, The mean score of autistic people; strong evidence for autism." "160 Very strong evidence for autism.") do i get a prize :D

[exotic pilot]

Guys

Is petroleum coke just coka cola

They both look just as bad tasting

[past robin]

Is it worth it to mess with nuclear if I have 1,000,000mw without it

[exotic pilot]

How

[past robin]

Fuel generator

[tame comet]

I don't know many youtubers, tbf. I just watched the "Satisfactory News" channel. He has videos helping artistically challenged people like me make stuff look not horrible xd

[past robin]

200 of them

[exotic pilot]

But like heh

[hot saffron]

what fuel do u use

[past robin]

The one past rocket, it uses shards

[tame comet]

Rocket Fuel plants are awesome too.

[hot saffron]

im using heavy oil residue rn

im on phase 3

[exotic pilot]

That can go in fuel gens?

[hot saffron]

well i use that to convert it to regular fuel

[past robin]

Yeah, 5000mw per uses 3 a minute

Off one single pure oil node you can get 600 of it a minute, or enough for 200 regular fuel generators

Or 1,000,000mw of power

[exotic pilot]

Dang

So you use rocket fuel

[past robin]

I use the fuel past that, ionic fuel or smth

[tame comet]

Wait. That math doesn't math. Fuel Generator doing 5K a minute?

[past robin]

That's what the wiki says

[exotic pilot]

I thought ionised fuel is a net loss

[tame comet]

You sure you didn't look up Nuclear instead? Those do 5K a minute at 100%. Fuel generators are 625mW max overclocked.

[past robin]

Oh shit it's mj

Is that a factor of 1000 difference?

[shy mulch]

it's a net gain, but only very slightly, not really worth the bother if you're using ionized for power, stick to rocket. but ionized is good to make in small quantities for jetpack and drones

[exotic pilot]

Ok

[tame comet]

Not sure. But I can see what you mean. It lists the Ionized fuel as having 5K MJ, but it converts to 625MW of electricity. (I don't know enough about power to know the difference xD)

I do know, tho, that my 120 Fuel Gen rocket fuel plant converts around 300 liters/m of Crude Oil into ~72K MW

[ripe basin]

Good morning guys
Im going to fry some dumplings

[rugged ore]

Mj is for drones I think

Worry about mw for power

[past robin]

MJ is the basic form of power used here to include time with the measurement

(30MW for 1 second = 30MJ, 30MW for .5 second = 15MJ)

[past robin]

Does this include the power used to produce that, or is that just the end power amount

[tame comet]

Just the end result. That's a good point tho, I should probably count that in the total xD

[past robin]

If that is the end amount, off of just my rocket fuel I should have 360k MW (possibly? That's based of the 5x more fuel I make and your number of 72k)

If that's is the case, I should be able to very very easily scale 2400 rocket fuel a minute

Oops! I read that wrong 😭 this is what I get for being up at 1 am

I'd get 144k mw

However with how easy it is to mass produce rocket fuel

[tame comet]

OK so my plant is... 300 oil, 800 Sulfur, 400 Coal, 600 Nitrogen
120 gens at ~240% for a total of 71.994MW, using 1500MW for production.

Optionally using the Compacted Coal to produce 1879 more in Coal gens.

[past robin]

I have 3000 oil to use

[tame comet]

I'm gussing the bottleneck may be Sulfur for this setup.

[past robin]

I need 2000 sulfer and 1000 coal per minute to use all 3000 oil

Should be 720k MW but I'll probably also burn the compacted coal for that little extra

[rustic hare]

kibitz then

[rustic hare]

how many % of the world's sulfur did you use for 720GW lmao

[past robin]

Literally only need 2k

A minute

[ripe basin]

So i fried some dumplings

[stray herald]

LIZARD DOGGOS? NOOO

[ripe basin]

[No lizard doggos were harmed during this process]

[past robin]

Now comes the big question, do I overclock the fuel generators or not

[tame comet]

No reason not to overclock them, really.

[stray herald]

I usually do

[past robin]

Big factory = big serotonin

[tame comet]

This is true. I hadn't considered that.

[rustic hare]

huh? you aren't using nitro rocket fuel recipe? cause 4800m^3/min uses 3200 sulfur/min which powers 144*8 gens making 288GW

[stray herald]

Anyone here got a train network?

I'd like screenshots of your map if possible

[tame comet]

Actually that math seems a bit off now that I think about it. I'm using 800/m sulfur to process 300/m of Crude Oil. So 10x that would be more like 8000?

[trim vine]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1412621009747578910

xD

So many train pictures

[past robin]

I'm not sure what your setup is, I am using nitro rocket fuel, but 600 crude oil turns into 600 rocket fuel with 400 sulfur a minute

[rustic hare]

overclock = small factory = small endorphin, dopamine

[stray herald]

Can I see your entire map ?
I am trying to see how people navigate terrain in certain areas

@rustic hare Are you building up high? These are very straight lines

[tame comet]

I'm lazy. I build above the terrain xD

[rustic hare]

yes

[past robin]

I have like triple checked this math, and I'm like 99% sure that 600 rocket fuel a minute only needs 400 sulfur a minute

I'm on the experimental version ig? Maybe that changes it but I wouldn't assume so

[tame comet]

That part I agree with. I'm not sure about the 600 crude to 600 rocket tho. I'm seeing 300 turn to 1200 over here.

Here's a thought. Are you using the Diluted Fuel alt? That one massively boosts the Crude Oil -> Fuel ratio.

[sterile blade]

Experimental is currently the same as "normal" SF. There's no new stuff to be added to just one version of the game yet.

[rustic hare]

just sent some pics, can you recheck the math? cause I got aa 288GW rocket plant up and running with all 8 pipes at 600m^3/s consuming 3200 sulfur/min

[past robin]

Oil extractor is 600m3 per minute. I run that into 10 refineries on regular fuel recipe making 400 fuel a minute, then I run that into 4 blenders on the nitro rocket fuel alt for 600 rocket fuel a minute out

[tame comet]

Yea that may be the issue then. My pipline is: 300 Crude > 400 Heavy > 800 Fuel > 1200 Rocket

Using Heavy Oil alt, into Diluted Fuel, into Nitro Rocket Fuel

[rustic hare]

cause you stated here 720GW from 2k sulfur/min which isn't possible with nitro rocket fuel, haven't tried the conventional path that uses acid, but the acid path cost less sulfur

[past robin]

It was using some starter math from someone else 😭 the stated 300 rocket fuel made them 72k MW and I would have 3000 rocket fuel (or 10x) so I sorta assumed it at 720GW

[rustic hare]

no, 300m³/min rocket fuel run 72 generators at 100% clock

that isn't the same as power output

just take 300/4.16666666 in the satisfactory calculator

[past robin]

They said it was 300 rocket fuel a minute into 120 fuel generators to total them 72k MW

[tame comet]

No it was 300 crude oil into 72K MW 😛

300 Crude oil, into 1200 Rocket fuel = 72K MW

[past robin]

Ok ok that's making sense

[sterile blade]

Why trust others' math? It's best to do your own math so you can blame yourself for errors

[rustic hare]

okay that makes sense

[past robin]

Because doing my own math at almost 2 am is about as bad as trusting someone else

Or trying to decipher words

[tame comet]

My math is usually wrong, and I don't figure it out until I'm done building the last building. Then I figure it out and have to redo it all

[past robin]

Valid

[rustic hare]

nitro rocket fuel literally make me use 1/3rd of the world's sulfur just to use up 1200m³/min of crude oil which = 2 pure nodes

then I have so much oil left to do other shit

[past robin]

I may use convertors to give me more sulfur

[tame comet]

Yea. I currently have 150K MW, all using one Pure oil node.

That's not a bad idea. Iron to Sulfur.

[sterile blade]

My math is usually surprisingly good. So I just end up applying it for the wrong recipe and F up that way
(Eg: #satisfactory-memes message)

[past robin]

Time to make a monumental belt from the desert to the west coast

[tame comet]

Agreed. Or a monster of a train network xD

[past robin]

I honestly don't like how trains look as much as just a straight belt highway

[tame comet]

Yea that's fair. I'm biased towards trucks, myself.

I got trucks running right across the map, just for luls

[past robin]

I've kinda hated anything that isn't a drone

I'd rather run a really long belt than make a path for a truck or a train

Time to dig up this factory and start again

All because I refuse to place another nuclear power plant

[tame comet]

Very valid 😆

[rustic hare]

personally I prefer oddly straight train tracks

[past robin]

I saw a YouTube video earlier of a guy who spent like 30 hours on his nuclear power plant to automate it all the way to ficsonium, and it makes like 750gw

[rustic hare]

I don't use slugs at all most of the time, so yes, I did place all 1152 fuel gens

[tame comet]

👀 nice! I do need to do that one of these days. I usually stop with Uranium.

[past robin]

I'm contemplating using the full 3000 generators

Slightly less than 3000

[tame comet]

That's one hell of a fuel gen field

[past robin]

The west coast will become a baron waste scape of my own creation

[rustic hare]

1152 is divisible by 8, and coincidentally, each 8th use exactly 600m³/min of rocket fuel, so I just built 8 floors

1152/8 = 144
and 12x12 is also 144

instead of a gen field I just did a 12x12x8 cube of gens

[past robin]

You make 4800 rocket fuel/minute?

[rustic hare]

yes

[past robin]

That's with 2 pure nodes right?

[rustic hare]

yeah

[past robin]

So with my 5 pure nodes it could be a tad large

[rustic hare]

sulfur destroyer

[past robin]

Is that time worth the dopamine boost?

[past robin]

Most of it will be converted from iron in the desert, I don't care about the environment

Or the desert frankly

[rustic hare]

just blueprint it and bam bam bam, I have a modular megaprint of 4 refineries, 6 blenders with 4 of them OC-ed to 150%, each print makes 600m^3/min to fill one pipe

[tame comet]

I wonder how much Sulfur you can generate with the available SAM. Now I'm curious how much Rocket Fuel could theoretically be made xd

[rustic hare]

I oc-ed the blenders just because 3 blenders fit pretty darn well with 5 refineries

[past robin]

10 reanimated Sam makes 120 sulfur

Using the iron recipe

[tame comet]

Oh that's not that much, then. You'd probably run out of Crude Oil before SAM

[past robin]

Which should be 3600 sulfur from one pure Sam node

Unless I'm just stupid

The real issue there is the 9000 iron that would require

[stray herald]

How do people making light on buildings like this? https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1412985088148504768/1412985088148504768
I'm trying to figure it out but I think OP is sleeping

[tame comet]

I would guess those are labels, with the same bright color on all layers and the brightness turned up.

[rustic hare]

you could also convert from limestone into iron

[past robin]

This is a tempting idea

[sterile blade]

The asnswer is: ||just shy of 50k Rocket Fuel/min||

[past robin]

That's like 12k fuel generators 😭

[tame comet]

👀 interesting. Now I'm tempted to make a world for all of that

[sterile blade]

#design-and-architecture
People can answer with pictures there (and it's more on topic)

[rustic hare]

we need an air quality monitor in this game

[past robin]

Factorio style 😭

My map would be pure red

[tame comet]

That would always be my goal 😆

[past robin]

That is like 3000 gw if I'm not mistaken

You would NOT run out of power

And that begs the question, with somersloops available, what does that bring the max rocket fuel to

[rustic hare]

I just love the dev's slandering of the cybertruck lmao

[sterile blade]

Just 711 Blenders, 256 Converters, 621 Refineries, 96 Constructors and 11 Smelters, no big deal, rookie numbers really

[past robin]

Cyber stuck

[stray herald]

wdym

[rustic hare]

try buying one from the coupon shop

[past robin]

What if we used somersloops

[tame comet]

that's the next 6 months of my life sorted

[sterile blade]

They threw a steel ball at it and broke it. Shameful stuff really SMH

Now it doesn't even drive properly!

[past robin]

Load balance all of it too

[rustic hare]

|| the windows are cracked, the wheels are square, it runs on fossil fuel, and cannot turn left ||

[sterile blade]

You could make up to twice the output. But slooping any of the input items would be almost useless as we're already using completely most resources. Only if you had infinite Sloops you could squeeze out more than just what you'd get if you sloop the Rocket Fuel output

[past robin]

How many sloops are even available

[rustic hare]

imagine the splitter tree just to split one input into 711 lines for the blenders

[past robin]

I might make a 1 to 711 split for the fun of it

[sterile blade]

I think doing some sushi would be much more fun and incredibly less laggy, while keeping you busy for as much if not longer 😉

[sterile blade]

~106 or 109 iirc

So that's little more than 25 fully Slooped Blenders

[past robin]

It would probably be easier to make all of those alien power augments to squeeze out an extra 3000gw

[rustic hare]

while you are at it, fit it into a blueprint, then make a 711 lines into one merger lmao

[past robin]

1 to 711 to 1

😭

[sterile blade]

Did you guys ever happen across the 780 - > 480 meme?

[past robin]

No I did not

That's just like a mk 5 belt to an mk 4 isn't it 😭

[sterile blade]

Someone made a pretty sizeable Reddit post about ways to load-balance a 780/min belt into one carrying 300/min and one carrying 480/min, completely missing the most obvious (and quite compact) answer. It made for quite some memes in the following weeks

Ie: great example of overcomplicating a simple task

[past robin]

Honestly I would've done the same thing ngl 😭

[rustic hare]

I'd love to see a 711 manifold fill up

[past robin]

Once I unlock the next belt tier I never use the old ones

[past robin]

That would take so long, I hardly have the patience to wait for a 10 belt manifold

[sterile blade]

I love me some slow belts

[keen jacinth]

Finally finished my entire adaptive control unit factory. Gotta decorate it when i'm at phase 3

[past robin]

I really love the design of the highest belt tier

That's why I exclusively use it

[sterile blade]

Meh. I prefer seeing items on belts over seeing just belts :P

There's just something about seeing items slowly moving around all over the factory that is so alluring to me... (eg: #design-and-architecture message)

[left totem]

93 ish

[boreal musk]

106

[upper gale]

I only use higher tier belts when it's needed. It gives a rough visual of how much is supposed to be on the line, and also saves on using too much of one resource. All my manifolds reduce in belt tier as it gets split too

The main feeding line stays consistent though

But I gotta say, using all faster belts might be better for your pc's performance- if it's not keeping so many items on the conveyors present

[dim dagger]

Is there a way to move something by highlighting then repositioning? A mod or a way in game?

Sometimes I want to change the height or direction of a conveyor lift yet I have to delete and can't just edit

[upper gale]

Maybe a mod. But no way to in the base game

[coral glacier]

Blueprints are similar in that manner

[deep pier]

is there a way to get the convey splitter to sort what goes out where?

[coral glacier]

smart splitter

:)

[deep pier]

and how do I get that?

[sterile blade]

Do note that, with manifolds, that can increase the time needed they take to completely warm-up (not by a huge amount, but if one cares they can definetly notice)

[coral glacier]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Smart_Splitter

[sterile blade]

Explore the MAM ||in the Caterium tree||

[upper gale]

Yeah true

[coral glacier]

"The sun is warming up?"

[sterile blade]

You mean "the manifold"?

[coral glacier]

Making a reference to Megamind, haha

[sterile blade]

Flew right above my helmeted head

[upper gale]

I remember asking myself this when first playing satisfactory "I can't believe they don't let you just choose what goes where! In such a cool automation game!"
Discovers smart splitter ages later

[coral glacier]

I'm glad you had a jetpack to catch up to it. 😆

[fluid sapphire]

its just too powerful for a baby engineer

[sterile blade]

It's never too early early to do some sushi

[coral glacier]

Josh be like:

[upper gale]

And then the "man this programmable splitter is neat but I don't think I'll ever need it"
Later: "programmable splitter my beloved"

[sterile blade]

Tbh, the "latter" opinion is one I see extremely rarely

[coral glacier]

I'd love to use non-existent Conveyor Mk.6's with the reactor farm i'm making.

I hope the uranium nodes in the game and alternate crafting recipes can sustain it.

[sterile blade]

Most go: "wait, I can't set rates for belts with this?! Useless!! " and forget they exist

[sterile blade]

Well, I'm talking about actually organized sushi, but sure xD

[coral glacier]

How many reactors does everyone here plan to make for their world?

[coral glacier]

Oh i see, my mistake.

[sterile blade]

I usually can finish the game in leisure with whatever 300 Uranium/min can give me

[fiery pewter]

All of them

The Satisfactory Discord aparrently doesn't like it if you want to type in bold

[sterile blade]

Huh?

[cursive crane]

Just can't be a majority of the message
all of them

Or the dreaded

[fiery pewter]

#(a space) text

[sterile blade]

I use "** text (double asterisks again)"

[coral glacier]

I'm working on a long project, and once it's completed in my creative world i'll send the picture to show what i'll be building in my survival world.
I just have to work out all the kinks (The headache that is arranging the item conveyors.)

[fiery pewter]

What's wrongk with the words 'all of them'?

[cursive crane]

Was it caps?

[sterile blade]

What?

[coral glacier]

Bazinga

[fiery pewter]

Bazinga?

[coral glacier]

Oui

[sterile blade]

Very bazinga

[cursive crane]

ALL OF THEM

[coral glacier]

#- Bazinga

aw man

[upper gale]

Yeah lol
I bet they didn't add that because it would make things too easy maybe

[sterile blade]

#- attempt at "new" bold method

[fiery pewter]

Womp womp

[cursive crane]

Space after #

[coral glacier]

[coral glacier]

Not what i was going for lol

[fiery pewter]

-# bazinga?

[coral glacier]

• e

what

[sterile blade]

Oh yeah, server doesn't quite like that

[fiery pewter]

Yeag

[true mulch]

-# did you mean to type this?

[fiery pewter]

Yeah the server doesn't like the large bold

[coral glacier]

Yeah, just my memory is corrupted.

[upper gale]

This can't be posted because it contains content blocked by this server

[coral glacier]

-# ae

[cursive crane]

-# this is the text version of 🥺

[fiery pewter]

Yeah that

[coral glacier]

-# Oh, there we go.

[fiery pewter]

-# or just whispering

[true mulch]

Well said

[near frost]

fun fact if u press G like the fillter thing while deleting also works on the costmuzier

[coral glacier]

-# Plz fill your bathtub with plutonium waste 🥺

[fiery pewter]

Yeag

[fiery pewter]

Seems like a plan

[cursive crane]

Meant to do the pleading finger point but apparently thats not discord native

-# mikael gimme emote perms ples
🥺
👉 👈

[fiery pewter]

Mikael is asleep

[coral glacier]

-#

[fiery pewter]

I think

[near frost]

so did u know that?

[fiery pewter]

What was the full technical term for those again?

[fiery pewter]

Yes

[near frost]

oh i thought i discoverd something new

[coral glacier]

"Space Giraffe-Tick-Penguin-Whale Thing"

We, civilized and simple pioneers call them "Beans"

[cursive crane]

"Bouncy Boi"

-# wrong answers only

[coral glacier]

I personally call them Balloon Whale Sloths.

[fiery pewter]

You did, in a way
You did discover something new that you didn't know about. I happened to know it too.

There are a bunch of things in this game that I don't know about

[leaden turret]

if they were sloths they'd be crawling upside down on trees or working in the ficsit dmv

[fiery pewter]

So, a S.G.T.P.W.T.

[cursive crane]

Sergeant Pewt