satisfactory

[dim flint]

yea that would mess me up for sure.

Even for things like storage space in a computer?

[left totem]

english sextillion is a french trilliard

[dim flint]

Giga should be SI, no?

[left totem]

we use standardised names I reckon

[uncut trail]

finally after whole day of playing ts i made 104 fuel gen and producing 35K mw of power,hope it doesnt shut down

[left totem]

kilo = 1000
mega = 1000000
giga = 1000000000
tera etc...

[limpid cairn]

Bits are calculated the same you calculate them iirc

[dim flint]

whew.

[rustic hare]

I hope you meant GW

[left totem]

it's like other names

[uncut trail]

Yea 35k

[hard ivy]

bits alo have kibi, mibi, gibi, tibi, etc

[silk ocean]

YW - YottaWatt

[uncut trail]

NW

i dont wanna elaborate on that

[late pier]

hey guys, are Mercer Sphere spawns randomized? Because it looks like this ones inside the floor....

[uncut trail]

from that one meme sound

[silk ocean]

kibibyte is 1024

Everybody normally justs uses kilobyte

[left totem]

you will get yourself killed for having wrote 35K mw

technically K = 1 million
it's MW not mw

so it'd be 1k MW but that's wrong because conventions so you gotta do math and say 1GW

[left totem]

2048 bits is 2048 bits

[dim flint]

I made 120 fuel power generators and I'm getting 30GW, so yea.

[hard ivy]

1. it's k, not K
2. k is 1000, not 1 000 000

[dim flint]

Ah yes, powers of 2 and powers of 10 scales.

[uncut trail]

🙏🏻 🥀

[left totem]

i recall some systems use k for 1000 and K for one million

[hard ivy]

kibiwatts

[dim flint]

SI units use the short scale, so it's easy for me.

[hard ivy]

not SI, that's for sure

[silk ocean]

You can get caught out with SSDs when they are quoted as 512 gigabytes for example, which is actually 500 gibibytes

[left totem]

yes but some systems

[dim flint]

no no no no, please no.

Kilo is SI.

[left totem]

I gotta love my 1To SSD being 910ish Go

[uncut trail]

kinda ironic i wanna degree in electrical bs

[rustic hare]

the game uses SI, so we speak SI now

[left totem]

how young are you

[uncut trail]

how does that matter

[silk ocean]

Might be some overprovisioning going on there too

[left totem]

if you're like 20 and about to have your diplomna? but you're not great with k, g, t etc... that seems compromising

[left totem]

what is that

[uncut trail]

not 20

still in school all im going to say

[silk ocean]

Additional allocated space used by the firmware to perform wear-balancing more effectively

[dim flint]

@hard ivy one more question, since I'm curious. What's you perfered method of getting raw materials to your factories? Do you just have a few trains that run around picking up and dropping of ignots and stuff?

[uncut trail]

but thats direction im leaning INTO

[left totem]

I got everything except wear balancing

ig some things to optimise storage efficiency ish

[silk ocean]

You can normally check in the utility program for your drive to see if any has been set

[left totem]

no like, I understood everything but that x)

[hard ivy]

belts for the most part. the vast majority of my factories are built as close to the resources they need as possible. the only exceptions are some very endgame factories, which get some resources trained in

[silk ocean]

Which make of drive is it?

[left totem]

like brand ?

[uncut trail]

4 oil nodes powering 104 fuel gen is nutty

[silk ocean]

Yea brand / manufacturer

[left totem]

I've got no idea

[hard ivy]

that sounds low?

[uncut trail]

tf how

[silk ocean]

Ah okay XD

[uncut trail]

im squezing every drop of oil from nodes

[left totem]

I can't really check it now though since I'm far from my pc

[rustic hare]

with rocket fuel, 2 pure nodes with full overclocked extractors can fuel 1152 gens

[left totem]

(in bed)

[dim flint]

I get 900 oil into 900 turbo fuel with less than 2 pure oil nodes and a single sulfer node.

[uncut trail]

with regural fuel i might add

[hard ivy]

I mean 1 pure node can power 80. with just fuel

[silk ocean]

No rush, tomorrow maybe xD

[uncut trail]

how

[rustic hare]

dilute

[hard ivy]

heavy oil residue and one of the diluted recipes

[dim flint]

wait that math sounds wrong...

[uncut trail]

im using that recipe

[left totem]

so technically they give us 1To but they actually own some of that space to make the hardware run better?
For dummies basically

[dim flint]

but I haven't looked closely at rocket fuel... I just use it for my jetpack.

[uncut trail]

although i might also add that i dont have anything overclocked outside of oil extractors

[hard ivy]

both?

[rustic hare]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/production/index/json/{"Desc_RocketFuel_C"%3A"4800"%2C"altRecipes"%3A["Recipe_Alternate_RocketFuel_Nitro_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_DilutedFuel_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_DilutedPackagedFuel_C"%2C"Recipe_Alternate_HeavyOilResidue_C"]}

600m^3/min of rocket fuel can do 144 gens btw

[uncut trail]

only heavy oil res

[dim flint]

interesting... though that's a lot of sulfur.

[hard ivy]

diluted fuel triples the output of residual

[rustic hare]

more than 1/3rd of the world's sulfur resource

[left totem]

i read it as suffer xD

[uncut trail]

like i have 2 overcloked pure nodes making 1600 hor and then making 1040 fuel

and i have two of there layout

[hard ivy]

1600 HOR could be 3200 fuel

[uncut trail]

well ill try to acquire one

[uncut trail]

with that recipe you js told me?

[dim flint]

Yea I wish I had it.

[hard ivy]

ew not SCIM's calc

[dim flint]

I have blended turbo which is nice, but diluted would have made my build more efficent.

[hard ivy]

Diluted Fuel or Diluted Packaged Fuel, depending on your tier

[uncut trail]

i have never heard of term diluted im on tier 8

[dim flint]

It's an alt recipe.

[uncut trail]

i know now

[rustic hare]

using a packager loop would cost a lil less power than using the blender lol (60MW vs 75MW) (wait, my math is wrong)

[hard ivy]

then take the Diluted Fuel. the packaged version is less convenient, but available from T5. Diluted Fuel needs blenders so it's T7+

[uncut trail]

saying take like its so easy

[hard ivy]

incorrect. the blender uses 5 MJ/m3 of fuel less

[uncut trail]

ill farm hard drives ig

[dim flint]

Is there some magic way people end up with the recipes they want?

I have a bunch of useless choices.

[hard ivy]

don't take anything you don't want and don't rescan

[rustic hare]

sorry my math was wrong, I forgot to count the machine's quantity

[dim flint]

rescan?

[hard ivy]

the button on the bottom to rescan the drive?

[rustic hare]

uhh, save your gamefile, rescan, if it doesn't pop out the one you like, reload the save you just saved, rinse, repeat

[dim flint]

lol I don't think I ever looked at that.

[dim flint]

genius!

[rustic hare]

more like cheesing the game

[dim flint]

hard drive farming isn't my favorite part tbh.

I'd be OK just unlocking them with a cheat.

[reef basin]

do that then

[sharp sundial]

So basically - when you delete a foundation ...and your PC stalls - shutdown the game - get some coffee
start again ...

this is the first sign of crash

[hard ivy]

good news! you can. in at least 3 different ways, even

[dim flint]

Yea, I've considered it. I can never decide how much of a puritan to be.

[hard ivy]

if you're going to save scum, you might as well straight up cheat.

[dim flint]

Getting lost farming slugs and health mats is kinda fun. Hard drives are less fun because you need to bring power with you and clean up your mess.

[hard ivy]

though ig you still have to gather enough HDDs for the recipes you want

[hard ivy]

use biomass burners or an APA and no cables to drag

[dim flint]

I would have liked some mechanic where you can scan the map to find the recipe you want. Then just have to go out and grab that one in the wild.

[wicked nacelle]

you can make a blueprint of biomass burners including one solid fuel in each and just drop it down

[dim flint]

what's an APA?

[hard ivy]

alien power augmenter

[dim flint]

Oh yea

[hard ivy]

gives 550 MW so it can open any drive

[silk ocean]

I "borrowed" an APA from base to open them XD

[dim flint]

I should really revisit that. I have one, but it's not being fed mats.

[slender quest]

Still good

[hard ivy]

well, the matrices are only worth it when your raw power production is 100+ GW

[rustic hare]

some drop pods that require power are also near geysers

[dim flint]

I'm at 75GW

[silk ocean]

I also got a bit lazy and purchased 10 drives from the awesome shop 😄

[dim flint]

Once I fix my nuclear production it will be well over 100.

[hard ivy]

well, no, correction. they're a net positive at 100+ GW. they only become worth it at a much higher power production

[dim flint]

good to know.

[slender quest]

Actually you can make them using multiple underclocked machines to reduce power consumption of the process.

[placid valley]

Ah the feeling of hitting phase 3 and wanting to tear everything down and make the functional factories into ones that are efficient and look nice...

[hard ivy]

true. they're a net positive if your raw production is 5x more than you spend on 5 Matrices/min

and by "raw" I mean without any augmenters, with matrices or without

usually, that's 18-19 GW, so ~100 GW is the break even point

but if you significantly over/underclock the power hungry machines, that value is gonna be different

[dim flint]

God damn it, why are train stations directional. I have a birdirectional passenger line I just want to put in.

[reef basin]

two stations

or build a junction so that you can enter from any direction

[dim flint]

Yep, I have to rethink my design.

It's a monorail on top of the two directional tracks.

And it really ruins the look to have two stations... I think I'm going to have to make a weird junction.

I still haven't figured out how to work with train tracks in a way I like.

[shrewd palm]

they're very finnicky sometimes

[dim flint]

I also really wish I could group things in the map and searches, because I have like 70 train stations and drone ports

I shouldn't have this many, but my friend didn't know you could make the trains larger than one car and he gave a bunch of places like 6 train stations.

[shrewd palm]

searching in the map would be really nice

[tulip adder]

I might do that once I'm at phase 5.. maybe..

[dim flint]

me atm

But I'm not tearing anything down. I just moved.

I spent the morning trying to salvage my friends "additions" to my base... it's hopeless for now.

[rustic hare]

one reason why I'm so picky about who I play with lol

[dim flint]

Yea...

[feral geyser]

I'm nowhere over 100GW, make APMs, and the one APA I have using them covers the entire consumption of my whole network.

[hard ivy]

makes more plutonium so if that's what you want, yes

[peak wasp]

how do I straight this bridge? #screenshots

@dry crag legend

[dry crag]

I got chu

[peak wasp]

what about curved roads?

[dry crag]

beyond my area of expertise, you need one of the spaghetti cult members

[peak wasp]

hahaah

[willow glen]

if you hold ctrl (?) you can rotate foundations in really small increments, then by overlapping lots of those you can make smooth curves.
I’m far from an expert because the z-fighting it causes bothers me, so I don’t use circles.

[sick dragon]

im making an iron ingot factory thats making 20k ingots. on 20 eventually mk6 belts... and i dont know how i want the trains to be split

something i prolly shoulda taken into account lol

[frosty basin]

I finished the game once and I'm looking for some sort of challenge or addition to replay with, any recommendations?

[sick dragon]

satisfactory plus...

hope you like screws

[frosty basin]

Is that like a hard mod or something?

[sick dragon]

you could call it a realism mod

[frosty basin]

Oh no 😭

[sick dragon]

adds alot more complexity and recipes

more its a modpack

[frosty basin]

I think I should maybe play base game a bit more before diving into a challenge like that

[sick dragon]

hey you asked for one i gave you one 😛

[stray herald]

What is the best lcoation for a turbo fuel power plant?

The South East corner?

[frosty basin]

Yeah but I should probably get used to clean factories and less spaghetti

[rigid glen]

Crater lake has space and lots of nodes nearby

[coral sundial]

how come one mk2 belt isnt enough to feed even only 4 coal gens

[wicked nacelle]

because it's not?

[coral sundial]

how come??

[rigid glen]

It is,

[wicked nacelle]

how should we know?

[coral sundial]

it should be right?

[rigid glen]

120 coal pm feeds 8 generators

if you're feeding it al lfrom one end, it will take a long while for the last generators to catch up

[coral sundial]

so why is it just filling uip the first 2 and not sending any further down

[rigid glen]

just shove a stack of coal into the machines to help

[frosty basin]

With a manifold it's going to take a while to fill

[coral sundial]

Ok

[rigid glen]

if it's actually not feeding it down the line, your belts are off

[coral sundial]

manifiold?

[wicked nacelle]

15 coal a minute is how much they burn. so it seems like 120/15 is... something you can do yourself

[rigid glen]

There are two ways to feed a set of machines, either manifold (all items feed from one point to an end point) or load balancing (using splitters to feed each machine equally and evenly)

Both work, load balancing takes more room, manifolds take time to fill uop

adding stacks to the generators will offset that time

[coral sundial]

ohhh i see

Ok im adding stacks thank u

which do i add stacks to first

[rigid glen]

the far ones

[coral sundial]

ohh

[rigid glen]

Also, make sure you don't have a mk1 belt or elevator somewhere creating a bottle neck

it's easy and happens frequently

[coral sundial]

how do i know my bvelty is actually carrying 120

[frosty basin]

If it's MK2 and full ig

[rigid glen]

it will look full with no spaces

[coral sundial]

oh ok

i have mk1 feeding the machine from the splitter

[rigid glen]

there is the problem

[coral sundial]

that shouldnt matter right?

[rigid glen]

no, it matters, every belt and connection needs to be mk2

[frosty basin]

I mean once past the splitter going into the machine it doesn't really matter right?

[coral sundial]

each machine only takes 15 coal per miunute

[frosty basin]

If anything it helps balancing

[rigid glen]

Oh, sorry, I get you,

yes, shouldn't matter, but also, if you have the plates, using mk2 everywhere isn't a bad decision

depends on your parts setup

[coral sundial]

oh i found a mk1 piece

[rigid glen]

it's really easy to do, you'll learn to check every section on a belt when you have throughput issues

(ie: numbers not matching up or working)

[coral sundial]

it was a smallll single piece going into a splitter

[rigid glen]

Yep, it usually is 🙂

[wicked nacelle]

sometimes the small section will be hidden by a splitter/merger

trust the math

[solid storm]

I think steam had some weird update today. My controller (x-box) is no longer detected by the game. I took all the steps needed to try and fix it. The controller still works on other games? EDIT: I reinstalled the game and verified....controller is working now, so something must have happened with the game?

[peak wasp]

!wikisearch cg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[peak wasp]

@coral sundial

was this what you were looking for?

[coral sundial]

i realized im overloading my belts lol

i had 10 iron smelters feeding one mk2 belt

one belt can only feed 4 smelters right

[rigid glen]

right

[peak wasp]

I'm getting 'next stop is unreachable'

Enters into station, freight / freight / freight/ freight
all set to load/unload correctly, and timetable back and forth, with 2 locomotives( one on each end) 4 freight cars

[dense violet]

odds are the station is facing the wrong way

[shy fog]

uh... mk2 belts can feed out at 120... creating more than 120 needs better belts...

[peak wasp]

|) ----> correct?

[shy fog]

anyway... did you finish building a loop out on the rail ruby?

[peak wasp]

it's ended with a buffer stop, just 1 line 2 stations

[shy fog]

that would be why

[dense violet]

the train coming back

[shy fog]

trains aren't like bumper cars

[peak wasp]

same

[dense violet]

(| --------- |)
like this

[peak wasp]

wait you must loop the track?

[dense violet]

for bidi trains

[shy fog]

to do a circlle, it must be a circle

[dense violet]

it doesn't have to bea circle

[shy fog]

to drive it manually, doesn't matter as much

[peak wasp]

auto pilot

[shy fog]

you can at least loop it back onto itself

[peak wasp]

interesting thank you ! 🙂

[shy fog]

so it enters the station and goes to the point the station says to...

[dense violet]

no stress , the stations have to be pointing in the direction of the incoming train as it docks

[peak wasp]

so docks behind the (| correct?

ashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[shy fog]

short version: put the station at the point it stops at

if going left/right, you need station all the way left, and all the way right

so dock at (| and lay down all the rail between |)so it can dock again

but if both docks (|~~point the same direction(| you need a entry

otherwise it doesn't complete

loop is easy if it's the only train too

the best part of the train loop method is that the middle is shared for both directions

so you only need one train

[sleek pine]

Is there any way to reveal the entire map with cheats or something like that?

[shrewd palm]

could check out SCIM

[shy fog]

removing the fog of war?

[sleek pine]

Yeah

[shy fog]

or just having the entire map visible?

[sleek pine]

I want to remove the fog of war

In game

[shrewd palm]

should show the entire map along with where everything is + also being a save editor

[shrewd palm]

you could set up hypertubes and bring enough resources + fuel for an explorer or something

hypertube yourself to one side and then drive back

and then repeat until you have the whole map

[shy fog]

the easy method is to not really bother and use scim to unblock it, but that's editing the save file

and frankly just read scim if you want item locations

@peak wasp you probably want/need this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3m0D8bt3ac

that's how you go A--------(load)B--------------(unload)C

[sleek pine]

What’s scim

[shy fog]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

[sleek pine]

I haven’t figured out how to remove fog of war in game using it

I’m trying to make a train track to move raw materials across the map

I just don’t have all the areas shown yet

[shy fog]

did you place the rails?

[sleek pine]

I’ve found map_Reveal in the console but that doesn’t work

I haven’t placed the rails yet, I just want a good path, and I need to see the roads in the map on scim

[shy fog]

ah... load map, click roads

it will overlay giant purple lines

[sleek pine]

can you add waypoints on scim?

[shy fog]

you can throw down foundations... but it's a very easy method to look at the web map and build a railroad

like I kinda cheat at it... I just built a foundation over a lake

[sleek pine]

I thought you couldn’t place buildings like rails in the map

[shy fog]

there's a blueprint stamp for it... personally don't like it

easiest way to know you're doing it right is just build power poles on the route, clean up the foilage, then build the rail back home

do you require a visual?

[sleek pine]

No I’m good I guess

Thanks

[shy fog]

no problem... I shall just toss a screeny in direct message anyways

[arctic socket]

that satifactory-calcultor site doesnt seem to let me change the miner from mk3 to mk1

[shy fog]

why would you want to downgrade it?

[arctic socket]

idk to match whatever tech i have to start with

do people only use end game stuff for this?

[shy fog]

no, we upgrade as we go along

so when I have T2, all my T1's are upgrade targets, then their belts, then the production chain, then I do more research launches to get T3

by then I need more power

[arctic socket]

so if i have 45 iron ore per second from a node

i cant represent that in the calculator?

[shrewd palm]

you'll remember it in time

[shy fog]

the calculator doesn't care about the input, it only cares about what you're doing

[shrewd palm]

all resource nodes are the same, and a mk2 miner only gives double a mk1 and a mk3 gives double a mk2

[peak wasp]

Somersloop biomass and build massive biomass generator farms. They only run when the machines do so when they build up they won't use power

that's what I thought of doing at least

[shy fog]

wana know something funny deer? I usually just build a few thousand batteries

[peak wasp]

batteries? Wym I've never used them much

[peak wasp]

thankskl, it's working, choo choo!

[shy fog]

because they charge up when not important

no problem ruby, remember to refer to his channel for tips later

[plain gate]

when are they even important given you don't accidentaly nuke half your power plant

[willow glen]

batteries could be useful if you exactly match your production and usage, but then you cant expand without expanding power first.
so when i use them, all it does is delay the time between me overbuilding and me noticing my power grid cant keep up. and any buffer that just delays problems instead of solving them is a detriment to my factory, not helpful.

[peak wasp]

anyone know how to turn off highlighting in #screenshots

[willow glen]

link to post not channel please.
but to answer your question, highlight it with your deconstructor, or reload from a save.

[peak wasp]

how do i do that (link to chan

[willow glen]

depends on your platform, either long tap or right click, “copy message link”. Otherwise it loads the channel to the topmost unread post, which for me is very far back.

[shy fog]

remove ui?

[peak wasp]

#screenshots message

[hard ivy]

Hover over it in dismantle mode

[peak wasp]

yay

[dim flint]

What's the reason I read somewhere for not using the 1m foundation as a baseline?

[plain gate]

doesn't snap to world grid

if you snap then a 2 or 4m foundation they'll be at least 0.5m apart vertically, and impossible to connect

ie it'll be centered at x.5 metres Z

[boreal musk]

already fixed long ago

1m align with 2m foundation in world grid

[dim flint]

Oh, that's nice. I like using 1ms

[tiny orbit]

@little wolf

Is this game a shooter

I just bought

How do I level up my weapon and get gun, I’ve been hitting the big bean things with my zapper, but I need stronger weapons

[boreal musk]

#screenshots message
@peak wasp just hover your mouse in dismantle mode to the freights, it will remove the outlines

[boreal musk]

most of them are in MAM research, but direct upgrade of zapper is in milestone

[tiny orbit]

I have no idea what you just said

[boreal musk]

just progress the game and you will know

[coral sundial]

Just realized miners mine at diff rates

I’m learning so much

[boreal musk]

the purity also matters

not just the miner itself

[placid valley]

I am not sure why you would but has anyone used an Explorer to transport items

[violet oyster]

So I have to finish Phase 3, I dont have a production line for Modular Engines or Adaptive control units, Should I build a factory for those or heavy modular frames first?

[heavy pine]

Heavy modular frames, you'll actually use those outside of project components.

[violet oyster]

Oki will do. Thanjs

Whats a good output number for HMFs to aim for. 10?

[shrewd palm]

that'll be good for now

you need a LOT more than in the future tho

[spiral summit]

smn remind me how to enable experimental build plz

[keen crane]

after over 8 hours i finally have ONE set of 8 coal powered generators up

[spiral summit]

rookie numbers

ive spent like 12 hours designing a modular set of 3 coal generators

only because im doing an aesthetic run

[keen crane]

the good thing is i've set up these sets of coal powered generators so many times it doesn't take me more than like half an hour to get them going if i actually lock in and i dont spend 20 minutes parkouring on the generators

[spiral summit]

tired of stilt foundation factories

[boreal musk]

for what? both stable and exp are in the same build

are you in epic or steam?

[spiral summit]

steam

[spiral summit]

an existing or new save file

[boreal musk]

setting > properties > beta

[spiral summit]

in advanced game settings?

[boreal musk]

in steam, duh

[bronze dagger]

it took me 20 hours to make a modular frame factory 😭

[spiral summit]

right i see

i had the mandela effect of thinking experimental was just a checkbox in the game itself

[keen crane]

it took me like 2 and a half hours to get 10 reinforced plates and 10 modular frames a minute going

[bronze dagger]

I got 20 frames and 10 plates from the same factory

making 40 plates in total but 30 of em are going to frames

[keen crane]

i just turned on alternate recipes unlocked instantly so i didn't have to spend time hard drive hunting for cast screws

saved a bunch of time with the factory since i needed to get 300 screws running

[bronze dagger]

mine eats like

its 12 per plate yeah

[keen crane]

its funny i have over 250 hours in this game and i've only gotten to the very beginning of phase 4 once

i keep resetting my saves

[bronze dagger]

yeah im ab to reset now

I just didnt get enough early game factories going so Im screwed tryna build these big ones

[keen crane]

rn im just automating a little bit of everything from phase 1

i gotta start on steel soon though

[stray herald]

Is this a correct setup for merging outputs to pipes? Turbo fuel. I heard you can sometimes overload the pipe and it skips a tick or something (e.g when your water output from making aluminum collides with the water coming from the water pumps)
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1411552859568345139

[dense violet]

it's the input of pipes that generally cause issues, not the outputs like here

[dense violet]

you can also ask questions with images in channels like #math-and-meta so it's easy to go back and forth

[stray herald]

Oh that's great. Thanks!:D

[coral sundial]

My iron setup is beautiful and all 100% efficient now 👻

[hollow halo]

50 hours and only teir 4…

[hollow halo]

I’m currently trying to get to this point- but I’m so.. lost and confused…

[coral sundial]

Oh me too it’s spaghetti

[cunning cloud]

hi will there be pre order Satisfactory on ps5 also will there be mods, and dlc's for Satisfactory on ps5

[dense violet]

no info

[cunning cloud]

ok thanks

[dense violet]

except for whatever is in #announcements but I don't recall anything about that in the vids

[hollow halo]

Hhh- wanna compare factories?

[cunning cloud]

will Satisfactory on cd and or digital download

on ps5

[dense violet]

no info xD

check out the vides in #announcements

doubt there'll be hard copies though

[hollow halo]

Rip the life of hard copy…

[surreal oasis]

load balancers go crazy after tier 4

[white dawn]

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if there was an eventual hardcopy. CSS seems to enjoy the physical artifacts

Though I wonder if they'd wait until they were more or less done updating the game

(though that'd be a weird time to suddenly release a hardcopy, so eh)

[steady cedar]

I always forget that by CSS people mean coffee stain studio here and not the web CSS

[quiet rapids]

how would i split iron accuratly from 168.75 ipm to 112.5 and 56.25 ipm

[dense violet]

1 splitter would do the job

it'll self balance

[boreal musk]

granted if you have fast enough belt to handle that throughput

manifold will always work

[hollow halo]

I’m crashing out

[surreal oasis]

you can split 168.75 by 3x56.25, and then merge two of them. you will have the output you want

[hollow halo]

It shouldn’t be THIS hard to automate iron up to modular frames

[quiet rapids]

smart ty

[surreal oasis]

always happy to help the Load Balancers Brotherhood

[hollow halo]

Okay.. I fear I can’t figure this out myself… pioneers.. please help me 😔🙏

[surreal oasis]

whats wrong?

[hollow halo]

I can’t find an efficient way to automate iron + all the parts I need for tier 3 and 4 stuff

[boreal musk]

try using planner

[surreal oasis]

interesting, im stuck exactly at the same point in the game

[boreal musk]

and set how much end products you need, after that you will get x amounts of resources you need

[dense violet]

how much of each part do you want?

[hollow halo]

Uh-… math… ig… atleast a stack of each..?

[dense violet]

per min?

[hollow halo]

Planner sounds smart (I am EXTREMELY bad at math…)

[jovial sapphire]

does anyone know approximatly how much biomass there is in all of satisfactory
-# (leaves and wood already in biomass form)

[hollow halo]

Oh- misread the question…

[plucky wren]

a million billion jillion gazillion

[boreal musk]

in general, working from end product is much easier than trying to guess how much item you can get from x/min

for example, i want to make 20/min of encased industrial beam, then you can get the number of how much coal/iron/limestone you need for it

[dense violet]

stick what you want per min in this planner https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=SVkd7mHRakG34gEsRY1m

[surreal oasis]

how do you guys use the blueprint planner for factories?

[dense violet]

wdym 'blueprint planner' ? just blueprints?

[surreal oasis]

yeah, how do you use blueprints in your base?

what's the logic behind it

[dense violet]

going up the tiers, just really basic sections of machines that are pre connected

things that can be used for most anything by pasting in the recipes when you need to

later on, custom made things for repetitive sections of factories

[hollow halo]

This deff helps :D

Time to figure out how to organize this…

[dense violet]

what I do , to keep it simple, is to dedicated 1 normal or pure node to each basic part. Then I just smoosh parts together as need it and let it overflow

[surreal oasis]

i've been using by tiers too. So I have a blueprint for smelting, for plates, for iron rods.... not sure if its the smartest way to do

because there are many

[boreal musk]

i use blueprint on something that will be placed repetitively

for example, 250+ smelters

im not placing each one when i can place 10 at once with blueprint

from 250 clicks to just 25 clicks

save so much time

[surreal oasis]

my case is that, for example, I have a blueprint that process exactly 300 ipm. If i find a impure iron vein, i just need one of that block, if its normal, i will need too, and so on

its ok for smelters, but brains waste fast when thinking of a process for tier 3 or 4

[hollow halo]

I realize I’m also tweaking cause I have no extra items in a storage…

[surreal oasis]

right now, I've calculated that all the sulfur in the world cant be used to process all the raw material in the world with refineries. its not enough

[dense violet]

if you use all the sulfur recipes? sure. You'll destroy the supply quickly

the solution is delicate and complicated:

Don't use all the sulfur recipes for everything

[surreal oasis]

alternative way: process any raw materials in refineries with water

[dense violet]

or alloys, or coke

the pure recipes can be obnoxious

[feral geyser]

They are so slow

Copper alloy > pure copper

[surreal oasis]

the only limited resource in the world is the number of nodes. thats why i want to extract more from each. greedy efficiency

i mean, limited resource for factories

[dense violet]

your computer will catch fire before you can effecitively use everything

[surreal oasis]

just use water on it. Thats what the game taught me

[hexed phoenix]

Disclaimer, pouring Ionized Fuel on your PC, doesn't overclock it..

So maybe Water will work :)

[dense violet]

you know, fuel powered machines to over clock systems WOULD be fun

add fuel to it to provide extra processing boost

[surreal oasis]

next AMD processors will come with a gasoline input

[shut fractal]

hey just wanna ask, if I delete all my spaghetti all the things I've done. Basically redoing all my factory what is the smartest thing I should rebuilt like some central hub or place where I could store all my items.

[dense violet]

well with dimensional depots you need a central storage even less

just find a spot with coal iron and copper in one area and make a bunch of basic items

[shut fractal]

I haven't unlocked the dimensional depot yet so i might do that next

[dense violet]

yeah just do that first.
central storages weren't mechanically useful before them either, but now with them there's relaly no point unless you find it fun

[cunning glade]

Is it worth making a factory for computers and heavy modular frames or whatever and just train them around

Was thinking circuits too but idk how much they're needed later

[peak wasp]

afternoon, pioneers

[dense violet]

sure. Play aroudn with how you like your logistics 🙂

[cunning glade]

Cuz they seem annoying too make

Same with frames I'd rather make a factory for each and train it around where needed

Computers also seem important late game

[dense violet]

sure 🙂

but you'll be adding new factories things will change. And once you're done with the tiers you may want to make different factories all over

[fathom shuttle]

Hello

I missed you everyone

[hollow halo]

So… I’m cooked

I managed to auto up to the modular frames

But I have a feeling that when I get to steel production I’m gonna have to change a lot of things…

In the meantime, wire production :D

[stray herald]

"Aluminum Rod" why would I ever make that

[stray herald]

👋 HELLO

[stray herald]

Nice tag

[stray herald]

Great!:D

I like steel, it's not so tedious as most other resources

[hollow halo]

If it’s less tedious as less things but more annoying than iron, I’m crashing out

I’ve spent 20 hours redoing my whole factory just to have a more efficient iron factory (as well as every thing else)

Cause I think I’m doing what people here call a warehouse build

-# tbh i just need someone’s help in cleaning up this place cause it’s really messy and it’s driving me nuts…

[outer moss]

how bad is it?

[hollow halo]

It’s.. not great… not terrible.. but not great..

[stray herald]

With 240 iron and coal per minute you can have 45 beams and 40 pipes with only 5 constructors it's a neat split IMO and you can modify it easily

[hollow halo]

Just need to find pure nodes :D

My luck is so trash I’ve gotten nothing but impure nodes near me :D

[outer moss]

can i see it?

[stray herald]

What area are you in?

[hollow halo]

Uhhh yeah I can see if I can get a few screens

[hollow halo]

I chose the first map

[reef basin]

Generally I'd recommend to make things from scratch where needed

[stray herald]

My first steel factory on my first save was also there. I made my first steel plant to the east of spawn. There's some sort of small valley-ish looking area with coal around it

[reef basin]

See e.g. https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[outer moss]

when you know a discord link is an ip grabber but you cant prove it:

[prime jasper]

I watch some documetation on train signals. If i understand correctly we only place them at the entrances of the junction? But not at the exit right?

[silk ocean]

Path signals only at entrances

Block signals on the exits

[prime jasper]

ok thanks!

[ivory condor]

but all of the internet is a ip grabber, its over

[outer moss]

pull a cyberpunk and kill the internet

[silk ocean]

Just imagine for path signals is that you're creating an imaginary "fence" around the entire block that you want pathing to occur within, so all entrances around that area need an entry path signal, and the exits are a normal block signal, once cleared that block signal that path is free'd up again

[ivory condor]

my life is over

[hollow halo]

Sent screens in #screenshots :3

[stray herald]

@hollow halo For the coal power, are you familiar with manifolds?

[hollow halo]

No idea what those are :D

[silk ocean]

You may also find that putting signals, especially path signals, right on the point where the tracks split can cause problems, you may find that adding a short piece of track and placing the signals just a little bit away from the intersection solves a lot of problems

and also for the approach to the path signal, I generally skip a pre-path block signal, i.e. have that signal further away otherwise trains will start to slow down because they need to be within that pre-block before reserving the path so if you want them to maintain full speed, have that signal further away, but the exit signals can just be in the normal place

[stray herald]

Let me show you

[prime jasper]

And concerning rail networks, do you advice more 4 ways junction or roundabouts? What are the pros and cons of each?

[silk ocean]

I don't think roundabouts are very efficient, but I have plenty of 4-ways and they are pretty decent

Roundabouts tend to clog up the paths because the roundabout part covers so much of the intersection and crosses over so much track they usually only accommodate one train at a time, just not very efficient. The 4-ways can often permit at least 2 trains at the same time, e.g. one turning right, one opposite side turning their right, or various combinations

but you can experiment, you might get some good results with either xD

[small notch]

Anyone know how to appeal to be unbanned from the server?

[frail sleet]

I think that's more a problem of sizing, a roundabout won't be efficient unless it can fit at least like 5 or 6 vehicles on it but after that it becomes the most efficient option.

So if your trains are long, your roundabout would have to be enormous

[silk ocean]

Yeah an enormous roundabout intersection is probably quite good

I generally find the main benefits of path blocks is they are quick and easy to construct on foundations (no complex fly-overs/unders, etc) and they are compact

[stray herald]

I sent a screenshot!:D

[hollow halo]

I see it :D

Looks more simple than how I’m doing it LOL

[silk ocean]

I think that a conventional fly-over/under style block intersection might be the most efficient of all but it usually results in spaghetti XD

[stray herald]

I've been using them a bunch they're very convenient IMO but they are slow to start as I said, you gotta wait until the machines fill up and all

[vale grotto]

There's only one map!! You just choose where in the map you spawn!!

[hollow halo]

What. 😃

[stray herald]

xD

[dim dagger]

At the start how many rods, screws and plates should I be making for unlocking Tiers and base parts? I was thinking plates 40/min, screws 160/min, rods 60/min as each will use a 60 ore node

[silk ocean]

It's one huge world

[stray herald]

It's a big map yeah

[vale grotto]

Yep!! Always fun when a newcomer finds that out haha :3

[hollow halo]

I should… I should sleep before I crash out…

[vale grotto]

Sleep is good!!

[hollow halo]

50 hour save and I’m still struggling with good automation…

They told it was only math.. MATH gets dragged away

[stray herald]

Welcome to Satisfactory

[vale grotto]

Honestly, for unlocking tiers, even 5/min of each part is totally good enough

I have about that much, and by the time I'm done automating the next thing, I have thousands of parts ready to go to unlock stuff

[stray herald]

If you find hard drives you can eliminate screws basically

[vale grotto]

Not basically, you can actually fully eliminate them from all production

There isn't a single recipe that needs screws and doesn't have an alt without them

[stray herald]

✋🤵‍♂️🤚

[peak wasp]

based pfp

[stray herald]

That is such a satisfactory outcome

[vale grotto]

Yep! Only need screws for the AWESOME shop and for crafting personal equipment like the rifle and rebar gun

[stray herald]

NGL I have been using it to buy stuff and it has been annoying to keep making screws just for it ebcause I keep throwing them away xD

[vale grotto]

Pffff fair yeah xD

I keep like one constructor somewhere feeding a depot so I can build them whenever

[digital swallow]

just make a smart splitter on any of your iron rod constructors to split overflow to make screws then just dimensional depot it

[boreal musk]

i automated screw for build gun cuz why not?

same with superposition osci and quantum processor

[frail sleet]

It depends how many routes it needs to connect to

If you have 16 different exits, then you can't connect them all to each other because that's 240 connecting paths. Roundabout fixes the scaling to be more linear

[silk ocean]

Oh yeah that would be mildly insane XD But then are there many 16 exit intersections in operation 😉 But I get your point, only really viable with 3 or 4 at most

[stray herald]

Anyone else leave the game open to collect resources even fi they're not on the game playing?

[frail sleet]

most roundabouts are also working within 2d constraints because IRL tunnels or bridges are expensive

[digital swallow]

3 days straight for tickets

[silk ocean]

Yea for sure

[digital swallow]

i sink everything then go on vacation

[frail sleet]

you get all of the tickets that you need just by playing the game

[silk ocean]

I think a 16-exit conventional intersection might consume the entire Swamp xD

[digital swallow]

whenever i restart i get realy anoyed that my factory looks bad so i spend to long making it look perfect

before i got coal i spent 20 hours building things

[stray herald]

I'm the opposite

[dense violet]

all nodes are static. No rng

[stray herald]

I build random stuff
'I'll make a fatory when I get Mark 3 belts'
Then 'When I get mark 4'
xD

Same for trains rn I am delaying them so much

[stray herald]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[digital swallow]

im doing trains right now ive been buidling a single rail for 3 hours and i just now left the plains lol

[stray herald]

Can I see it?

[digital swallow]

ill take a screen shot

[stray herald]

I am concerned I'd start working on mine and suddenly I hit bad terrain

[reef basin]

what

[silk ocean]

A link where someone or some bot can see the server logs and grab your IP address when you make an HTTP/S request basically, from my guessing

or some script that does the same thing

[reef basin]

I know what IP grabber is lol

I'm just not sure why that reply was to me sharing a wiki link

[steady glade]

ye but the confusion comes from the fact that this is the OFFICIAL site

[silk ocean]

I wouldn't be worried about that then xD

[reef basin]

I'm not lol, I'm just asking what do they mean

[digital swallow]

question once you take a photo in photo mode where can you find it?

[silk ocean]

Maybe just a mistake? xD

[hollow hazel]

#faq message

[hybrid nymph]

just started up a new world with a friend today

we're on tier 1 right now

[covert marsh]

Hello i am here to complain that the chainsaw does not run on liquid biofuel it literaly makes no sense. Or that chainsaw does not run on normal fuel. It just clutters the inventory.

Thats all thank you

[reef basin]

hello, you're in a wrong place to complain

that's all, thank you

[covert marsh]

aw

https://tenor.com/view/like-a-dragon-gaiden-joryu-damn-kiryu-damn-gaiden-joryu-gaiden-kiryu-gif-15664409657407658415

No embed

damn

[dense violet]

worst day of your life I'm sure

[silk ocean]

It is a bit odd that it runs on solid biofuel I must admit

[reef basin]

yeah, they are disabled for the very reason you just shown

[dense violet]

So far.

[hybrid nymph]

it's dumb sorry to hear, it makes no sense I know, should allow you to use gasoline and turbifuel

[covert marsh]

Bro i am arguing with my friend over adding a chainsaw fuel mod. He says its too "gameplay changing"
BRO

[silk ocean]

Just going to cut down a tree... do you have any of those blocks of compacted leaves anywhere? I'm outta fuel

[dense violet]

how often do you ever even use it? it's almost a pointless tool

[reef basin]

^

[silk ocean]

Rarely, usually a nuke

[covert marsh]

I HAVE THE AUTISTIC URGE YES

[hollow hazel]

Once you've uprooted all the brush, all you have left are the sky brushes. xD

[dense violet]

why would yo ueven uproot all that? you barely need any biomass to get to coal

[hollow hazel]

Plus, I'm sure they are following Josh's example: Crates upon crates of biomass and using nothing but burners for power.

[covert marsh]

Aw man.

[grand dew]

hi im new

[covert marsh]

Its no use. Only nerds are here 💔

[grand dew]

i am a nerd

[covert marsh]

yeah me too. But these guys are nerd nerd

[hollow hazel]

hi, peter new, i'm--- wait.....

[hybrid nymph]

peter?

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
why isnt my truck moving? autopilot is enabled

[hybrid nymph]

Peter Griffin?

[covert marsh]

Anyway ima head out. This is not cool server. Cya guys

[hybrid nymph]

umm okay lol

[reef basin]

usually it's better to ask in #1038092680493801533 rather than having conversation split in two channels

[scenic mirage]

gotchu my b

[stray herald]

@digital swallow Nice looking rails:D

[digital swallow]

thanks

[stray herald]

Man Supercomputers are a PAIN

300 copper, 473 oil and 234 caterium a minute just for 1.875

[hybrid nymph]

kinda weird that guy left lol. "not a cool server..." I'm offended

[stray herald]

I've been here for a week and I've seen nothing but friendly and nice people

It's been a blast and I usually never text in servers

[hybrid nymph]

exactly

[stray herald]

@scenic mirage What is the truck for?

[scenic mirage]

that was bauxite

[reef basin]

it's the type of person whose idea of "cool server" is "everyone agrees with me and praises me for my wisdom"

[minor surge]

😂fr

[peak wasp]

evening, fellow pioneers

[steady glade]

good morning

[silk ocean]

mornin'

[hybrid nymph]

lol, exactly what a noob

If anyone around here should be getting praise it's me for being so knowledgeable

[steady glade]

as dictated by your title

[hybrid nymph]

I'm still learning things about this game, but I know like 90% of what it on thw wiki

[hollow hazel]

Please, all praise goes to Josh for bringing this game to most of our attention. 😄

[scenic mirage]

morning from denmark 🇩🇰

[hybrid nymph]

Josh lol

Beltnado

Ahh Denmark, you guys are awesome with your democratic socialism, I salute you

[scenic mirage]

ye it rlly saved my life a few months ago, wouldnt be here without it 😅

[hollow hazel]

What you tælking about? It is almost 11am. Surely you should use the term 'fore-mid-dæy. xD

[hybrid nymph]

dude, our heathcare in the US is the worst of any developed country. 3 million americans a year! go bankrupt over medical costs, with insurance by the way!

[peak wasp]

lovely! what are you working on today

[hybrid nymph]

I'm so jealous of you guys

[scenic mirage]

aluminum for like the 4th day in a row or smth lmao

[hybrid nymph]

with your universal healthcare and universal higher education, and how you actually make your rich people pay their fair share of taxes

Denmark is a pardise

so jealous of you @scenic mirage

I'm stuck on tier 7 right now

[silk ocean]

Helps to have a load of oil and gas xD

[peak wasp]

australia is p cool too, free healthcare

[hybrid nymph]

rich people here are all but tax exempt, they only pay a measly 2%!

only the working class pay taxes...

enough of going offtopic

could someone help me with tier 7 please?

[limpid cairn]

there arent cool servers on discord

[prime jasper]

Guys, am I the only one that gets absolutely pissed of by the fact the blueprint designer SOMETIMES swap its content for whatever blueprint you select in your menu? I want to stick two blueprint together, so I load the first one using the blueprint designer menu, and then I select the second blueprint to add in my building inventory but when I do that, the first blueprint loaded disappear to be replaced by the one i just selected in my inventory.

It does not seems to do this all the time so it gets even more frustrating

[limpid cairn]

its supposed to do that no?

cant you just place the blueprint you want into the designer / nudge it in place?

[steady glade]

no

its a bug

happens sometimes to me too

[hollow hazel]

Maybe you are the only one if there aren't any QA posts about it or highly upvoted posts.

[prime jasper]

no, this time i can't, even if usually it works

because when i select the new blueprint the first one vanishes and the second one get loaded automatically in a place i didn't chosed.

I am restarting my games hoping this will fix the thing

[odd agate]

Hello, I'm running my game on ultra settings, etc... but is there a way to increase the display distance for shadows and scenery, please?

PS: If so, will this disable Steam achievements?

Thank you in advance for your help.

[hollow hazel]

I don't think inputting some render console commands will disable achievements...

[limpid cairn]

dont you have to enable the console for that?

pretty sure it disables achievements

[odd agate]

I have never used the console

[boreal musk]

console doesnt disable achievements

only AGS does

[odd agate]

AGS ?

So I imagine there is a console command to fulfill my request, is that right? 🥹

[boreal musk]

just press ~

[true mulch]

!wikisearch command+console

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=command+console

[boreal musk]

it will open the console command

[true mulch]

ah mb

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Debug_console

info on how to access the console

[boreal musk]

altho the shadow distance from console alone is only maxed at 2, so iirc you need to play around from the config itself

[true mulch]

as for the exact commands in question, I've definitely seen Steam guides/Reddit posts on this topic, but I don't have any on hand

the console is not persistent (changes are lost after closing the game), but editing configs is

[odd agate]

Ok, thank you !

[fervent umbra]

When will the FICSIT hat will be out on lizzardoggo shop ? In the last videos it was here 👀

[ember moon]

Struck making rotors till I have enough to make a coal power plant

[minor oak]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1391833888510181469

[small notch]

hello

[hybrid nymph]

just found bauxite

[scenic mirage]

W have fun (im not)

[hybrid nymph]

totally should be able to murder animals with the chainsaw, so lame lol

[silk ocean]

Boooo xD

I switched to passive so I don't have to

[hybrid nymph]

same here, but turbo rifle ammo is so busted

[ivory condor]

As long as we can use acid as a ammo type to go along with it

[hybrid nymph]

one clip kills those boss hogs, espicially the radioactive ones

if you can kill zombies with a chainsaw, why not animals? how are hostile animals different than zombies?

[silk ocean]

Combat isn't hard if you're vaguely used to playing an FPS, I just found it got in the way of factory building

[ivory condor]

I'm going to go turn my nuclear waste into rebar now, really go give the wild life a taste of its own medicine

[small notch]

at what tier do i unlock something better than coal

[silk ocean]

Tier 5, oil processing

[small notch]

alr thanks

[silk ocean]

Well, oil processing and petroleum power 1/2

[boreal musk]

pretty much every new phase offer more ways to generate power

[hybrid nymph]

goddamnit, why does aluminum have to be so DAMN HARD to make!?

[silk ocean]

I did spend quite a lot of time working on alu yeah

[true mulch]

technically you can get geothermal instead

[hybrid nymph]

now I need to setup a new train station to deliver coal and quartz to the aluminum plant

[silk ocean]

Yea, it's just not very good

[true mulch]

wdym not very good

free power is free power

[silk ocean]

Sure but it's spread all over the world, big effort to harvest, and even with 15 or 20 geothermal generators you're still only producing like 4 or 5GW

[true mulch]

you're going to explore the world for hard drives anyway

and power towers are not only easy to build but also look dope

[cloud crown]

I would just build the ones near me, but then it wouldn't be worth accounting for the fluctuations

[scenic mirage]

how do i get more consistent throughput with trucks

[true mulch]

0.5/1/2 power storages impure/normal/pure, that's it

hardly any "accounting for"

[ember moon]

Its only tier 3 you get to generate it automatically

Rather than manually

[silk ocean]

I've got about 20 of them, it's better than nothing, not saying they're totally useless, they just don't really add much to my power mix

Maybe about 2 or 3%

[true mulch]

my point still stands, free power is free power

[silk ocean]

All power is free - it's not like you pay for the uranium xD

[true mulch]

I leave my 4.8 GW coal power plant running the entire game even though it barely contributes to the total

[hybrid nymph]

okay just got the train depot setup, now I need to hook it up to power and route the coal and silica over to it

[silk ocean]

Yea my original coal plants are still running but mainly because I can't be bothered to tear them down until I need the coal xD

[dense violet]

All you need is enough trucks

[true mulch]

I mean other power sources except for coal have some sort of process to make the fuel, which takes setup
notably producing UFR is so complicated that you might be better off just making rocket fuel

I haven't reached RF in my 1.0 playthrough to give a fair comparison yet

but based on SFTools math, RF seems to outperform nuclear

[silk ocean]

UFR isn't that hard, yes it requires building 3 or 4 support factories, if you want the plant to be entirely self-sufficient / guaranteed, takes time, but the effort pays off in terms of power generation

[true mulch]

lemme make the plan once more

I'm working with the assumption that UFR manufacturers are slooped to make double, reprocessed and sunk

[silk ocean]

My Fuel generation solutions generate a lot more than my nuclear, but I could scale nuclear up significantly so maybe not entirely fair

[scenic mirage]

how much can one truck carry?

like per cycle

[silk ocean]

48 stacks

stack sizes vary so can't give a specific x/min

[scenic mirage]

bauxite ore, it looks like my truck station says max 18 stacks/min?

[silk ocean]

bauxite stacks to 200 I think

Depends on the journey time, etc

19,200 bauxite ores per cycle, if it's 200/stack

[boreal musk]

all ores stack to 100

[ivory condor]

A interesting approach to use sloops to double UFR, problem with that though would be doubling the amount of nuclear waste you have to deal with as well

[silk ocean]

9,600 per cycle XD

[true mulch]

accounting for that

[silk ocean]

You're not really space constrained if you build your nuclear out over the ocean so slooping is a bit of a waste when you can just double up the machines

[ivory condor]

lets see quick math shows maxed out UFR production slooped would put power at 1.26TW, interesting

[silk ocean]

Probably more power than I'll be able to leverage xD

[ivory condor]

dealing with 5040 nuclear waste/min would also be fun

[silk ocean]

A lot of particle accelerators and blenders XD

[ivory condor]

many yes

[silk ocean]

Lots and lots of silica and concrete as well 🙂

[ivory condor]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=5n1aKSTWfIqsLRGwrQZ3

only 51 PA's, actually not as bad as I thought

[true mulch]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=spWPoJ8mwTE2M6mPpHYg
150 buildings to make 60 GW in nuclear (slooped UFR, plutonium reprocessing) in 10 overclocked NPPs
takes just about every resource in the game

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=byvF9LaLRWNzcECqPBGe
56 buildings to make 60 GW in rocket fuel in 240 fuel generators (that's just BP spam, not equivalent to a 250 building factory)
takes oil, water, nitrogen and a wee bit of sulfur and iron

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=2BqcjXFdOumHExKAqqlM
26 buildings to make 60 GW in rocket fuel in 240 generators
takes a bit more coal and sulfur over the option above

make it make sense
@silk ocean@ivory condor

note that I mangled with the alts somewhat to make it more appealing to myself

wasteless UFR power is easily beaten by RF

[silk ocean]

I need to count how many buildings I have to generate my 65GW

[true mulch]

WAIT, I used the wrong RF alt

[tropic storm]

Does anyone know if there is a map that shows all the no build zones where that flying thing goes through?

[true mulch]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=2BqcjXFdOumHExKAqqlM
there, for a notably higher coal and sulfur cost, you can produce 60 GW of rocket fuel in ...26 buildings

ridiculous

[silk ocean]

I have 95 machines at the Electromagnetic Fuel Rod plant alone XD

[ivory condor]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=L5qJ6SGJEJWLQVQjLewz thats what I made, 8400 RF is really cheap to make

[silk ocean]

But it has the capacity to double my nuclear

[true mulch]

imo 1.0 broke how power used to be balanced

[limpid cairn]

Why and how are you planting electromagnetic fuel rods

[true mulch]

nuclear is not worth doing unless you burn plutonium rods due to how ridiculously cheap rocket fuel

[ivory condor]

RF is really OP for how simple it is to make, resources and power you get from it

[true mulch]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Giant_Flying_Manta

[ivory condor]

it in many ways makes so many other options just look bad by comparison

[tropic storm]

legend

[hybrid nymph]

now to run power to everything

[ivory condor]

even my 8400/min RF plant only has 429 buildings, which is kind of insane when you think about it

[silk ocean]

I think it's 269 machines, miners, pumps, drone ports (excluding train logistics network and stations) to run my nuclear installation, but it can relatively be easily doubled so the number of machines wouldn't hugely increase if it went to say 120GW, mostly in the reprocessing

[hybrid nymph]

RF? we aren't palying Minecraft lol

[dense violet]

like 48 stacks? but if one truck isnt' enoughn, add another to the route

[ivory condor]

RF = rocket fuel

[true mulch]

yyep, and I wonder how does IF fit into this

[hybrid nymph]

oh okay

[ivory condor]

IF?

[true mulch]

ionized

[ivory condor]

thats awful, it doesn't

tier 9 has the worst power options by far....

[true mulch]

thought so

[ivory condor]

yeah.....

[boreal musk]

also very brain dead to make with nitro alt

[true mulch]

the nitro alt eats a lot of sulfur

while only about halving the building count

if there's enough sulfur nearby to support it, it's a no brainer though

[ivory condor]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=BsOgN1d4esfTPbOr5haD enjoy making that ionized fuel, but i sure wont

[boreal musk]

sulfur isnt a problem, i would worry more about nitrogen consumption

[ivory condor]

whats this only 105 quantum encoders.....how about no

[true mulch]

nitrogen isn't used for a lot of things

[boreal musk]

i do, i make a ton heck of cooling systems and fmf

[ivory condor]

also using 281 convertors sounds fun to....

[true mulch]

hm, still, you can build power plants completely isolated from everything else and claim an otherwise remote nitrogen well just for this

[ivory condor]

fun in a way that i just look at this and want to run in the opposite direction

[boreal musk]

just underclock all quantum encoder so you get more net per m3

[true mulch]

build 10500 of them at 1%

pioneers hate this simple trick

[ivory condor]

go ahead and do it

[boreal musk]

i did actually, with turbo blend + normal rocket recipe, i can make 3k/min rocket fuel with just 900 sulfur and 1200 nitrogen

insanely cheap

[silk ocean]

Sounds like one of those ads

[boreal musk]

2400 goes into power and 600 packaged for drones

[rustic hare]

anybody have a suggestion on a 3 to 4 belt balancer that's on one level (no vertical transportation)?

I did a 2 to 2 but 3 to 4 is breaking my brain

[ivory condor]

oh i realized what i really hate about ionized fuel, 221 converters to make 1050/min time crystals, because you have to make synthatic power shards for that fuel, which makes it so bad indeed for making power with

[dense violet]

split each into 4 and merge one of each?

[ivory condor]

yeah you know what....im never going to try to use that to make power, this is just awful

[rustic hare]

yes, but planar, no vertical height, no clipping

[dense violet]

rip, try putting what you need on the belt in teh first place. Or using what's on them

[ivory condor]

no wonder it spikes up to 437GW of power to make this fuel

[boreal musk]

no clipping? yep good luck

[ivory condor]

all of those converters and encoders take alot of power indeed....

[rustic hare]

yeah I'm breaking my brain to do it

[silk ocean]

"Are you tired of running out of power? Just follow our 3 step guide... build 104,500 constructors, clock them to 0.01%, throw yourself off that nearby cliff" xD

[rustic hare]

or anyone have a suggestion for a 6 to 8 balancer?

[boreal musk]

its going to be a really long 3:4 balancer if you against clipping, like real long just to get the belt onto the other side

[dense violet]

flat? how would that be easier?

[polar trout]

Hello, im a new player looking to get the game but looking for someone that would play with me and start a new

[rustic hare]

oh the 6 to 8 doesn't need to be flat, only the 3 to 4 needs to be

[dense violet]

#1201555265942724758 , but I really would start out on your own so you can learn the basics

[ivory condor]

so I could put down 2.54m convertors clocked at 0.01%, this will only take me one eternity and probably make my game unplayable

[dense violet]

gl with life, it sounds aggrivating

[silk ocean]

I think my PC would explode before I reach step 3 xD

[polar trout]

I would want to learn with someone because i get too bored by myself y'know

[boreal musk]

6:8 is not a problem tho, you just double the 3:4

since vertical is allowed, its easy to do

[ivory condor]

Mine well to, its not surviving this

[silk ocean]

and then getting to the cliffs at the dune desert would be like a slideshow lol

[dense violet]

you mean the one not being able to be made flat in the first place?

[wild sky]

I knda just started the game we can start together

[polar trout]

How long?

[boreal musk]

it kinda can, but the belt will be really long just to cross the other side

[rustic hare]

idk why I put myself in this place

[dense violet]

you'd still need the 4 outputs to clip or go over other things eventually

[ivory condor]

welcome to FPY

[boreal musk]

also, why are you restricted to a level balancer anyway?

that sounds like you need to redesign

[dense violet]

or just not use them

[ivory condor]

though I'm pretty sure the game would crash, I think the game has like a 120 second exception on the render thread, so if the game reaches on render thread just gives up existing

[rustic hare]

cause I want to stack them to make a 6 by 8, I have multiple sources of sulfur coming in, so the sulfur input is skewed, and I need to split them into 8 for my rocket fuel plant

[ivory condor]

i have gotten those 120 second crashes on the render thread, so im familiar with this

[dense violet]

either clock the groups to use what's on the belts or use smart splitter over flows

[tawdry walrus]

Dont build 4 alien power generators. 50+h later still in progress making factory for matrix. And math for sinkink is blowing my mind

[ivory condor]

I never made the matrix myself, so have fun

[cunning glade]

Yeah but hauling all those raw mats around seems mad annoying

When I could just make a few at a site and then expand it when needed🤷

[small notch]

#screenshots will these splitters evenly distribute material?

i dont feel like it will

[fluid sapphire]

if the material you feed matches or exceeds the total amount used by the machines, then after the machines fill up (sans the ones at the end), it will, this is called a manifold and its the most common way of solving this problem

[reef basin]

You build near the raw mats

[reef basin]

Yes

[boreal musk]

as long as you feed the exact amount, it will self balance

[small notch]

ok thank you everyone

[reef basin]

even if you don't

[hybrid nymph]

alright, I have plenty of extra coal and power slugs, may aswell setup 4 more coal generators to get an even 10,000MW

[small notch]

#screenshots so this should work

[reef basin]

yes, once it stabilises

[small notch]

ok thanks

[hybrid nymph]

okay gotta rebuild my coal plant from scratch wow

[small notch]

how do i make pipes lift up above conveyors i cant figure it out

[steady glade]

clic once, flick up a bit

or click on the conveyor

[hybrid nymph]

question?

[small notch]

ok thanks

[steady glade]

or ||buy a stackable pipe support from the awesome shop||

[small notch]

didnt know i could do that ty

[hybrid nymph]

should I setup 10 fully overclocked coal generators, or should I just setup 3 more fuel generators?

the ladder would save 30 power slugs

[mortal ginkgo]

why are you bothering with coal gens if you got fuel gens?

[hybrid nymph]

huh

fair point

[steady glade]

get it twisted

you should save space and concrete by overclocking all your machines wherever

[hybrid nymph]

so should I just devote all of my compacted coal straight to turbofuel then?

[steady glade]

compress all your factories as much as possible

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean... yes? 😛

[hybrid nymph]

I am generating 500 compacted coal per minute

[prime jasper]

Either use the coal for the turbo fuel or for crafting stuff (air filters, aluminium scraps etc...) but building coal plants once you unlocked fuel is a waste of time and ressource.

[hybrid nymph]

okay sounds good

I will disable my coal generators once I get the 3 fuel generators setup

screw it these coal generators are dumb

they take up a ton of space and generate hardly any power

plus I wasted 30 power shards on them!

I could get the same amount of power from turbofuel generators with just 3 of them and only using 9 power shards

[reef basin]

Space is practically infinite

[hybrid nymph]

once I get conveyor mk5s I can setup 4 more assemblers for a total of 600 compacted coal per minute

[limpid cairn]

You can set up infinite assemblers with mk4 belts

[hybrid nymph]

i need mk5 bels

i am producing 600 coal per minute but I can only pull out 480 because I only have mk4 belts

[silk ocean]

Double up the belts, split the system? Assuming >1 miner

[hybrid nymph]

I need to see exactly how much turbofuel I am generating

[austere lichen]

I think hes referring a single mk2 miner fully overclocked on a pure node

[tulip adder]

how long does the game take to beat,,,,

[hybrid nymph]

about 150 hours if you don't goof around

if you do goof around and take your time, about 225 hours

[austere lichen]

No goofing and decorating

[hybrid nymph]

then about 170ish hours

according to chatGPT at least

[silk ocean]

For a new player I'd say up to 300 hours

You're going to want to explore and find things in the world etc

Depends how much YT you watch XD

[primal flax]

will downgrading my belts help improve performance or do i just need less belts?

[earnest ginkgo]

Where is a good spot for a radio controll unit factory?

[hybrid nymph]

apparently I can run 12 fuel generators off of my turbofuel

[slender quest]

Anything with copper, caterium and iron close together.

[earnest ginkgo]

But I need bauxite, quartz and oil and I couldn't find a spot that has all those relatively close by

[slender quest]

I know a spot on the eastern shore of the desert, but you can also aim near Grass Plains waterfall.

[slender quest]

Move these via trains.

Or the opposite - find a spot with these, and move the rest in.

[earnest ginkgo]

Can you please send me a picture of a map where these are marked?

[slender quest]

Forgot the wiki command, so... Sec...

[limpid cairn]

.!wikisearch

[slender quest]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/World#/media/File:Biome_Map.jpg

or

#screenshots message

Basically, eastern shore of the desert is on around top right corner of the map.
Grass Plains is the first starting area, you can see the waterfalls if you are high enough.

[earnest ginkgo]

Thanks but why the desert? no bauxite, no oil and no quartz

[slender quest]

Move bauxite and oil products from the south, and quartz from the north.

[earnest ginkgo]

Seems like more work than necessery but thanks. I will try the spot above the titan flats I guess. Just have to move bauxite there

[slender quest]

In my case, i was already making stuff elsewhere, so had to extend the railway that brought me what i wanted.

Enjoy building!

[small notch]

#screenshots im pumping in 360 water per min which is enough to sustain all 8 gens yet the fourth from the right keeps turning off due to lack of water any fixes?

[nova tundra]

can anyone help me i cant join my friend through direct connect and i get an error message if anyone knows pls answer in questions-and-help

[ember moon]

whats your water pump setup

[slender quest]

How are water extractors connected?

[small notch]

3 extractors

2 going to one side 1 going to the other

[ember moon]

how are they placed

[small notch]

there all next to eachother

not all connected tho

[hallow flicker]

Wow. 1.2 detail teases in the YouTube video from Mikael.

My favorite feature to see in 1.2 (or sooner) would be functional internet multiplayer without crazy workarounds.

[boreal musk]

mk1 pipe can only hold 300/min while youre producing 360/min, to fix this you need to separate one extractor to the other end so both side receive equal amount of water

@small notch

[fossil ice]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @boreal musk

[boreal musk]

!wikisearch cg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[boreal musk]

you can follow this layout too

[small notch]

i have i have 2 pumps going into one side and one pump going into the other

#screenshots thats how the front looks

should i get rid of the pump thats on there

[boreal musk]

you dont need the pump in the middle

what about the extractors? do they have enough headlifts?

[small notch]

yeah i have pumps down before the pipe travels up

[silk ocean]

What's the use for valves in general, I can't say I've ever needed one

[ivory condor]

not even teases though tbh, as there was basically no information about what might be after 1.1

[slender quest]

Prevent backflow if you mix fresh water and recycled water.

[hard ivy]

The head lift exploit and that's about it lol

[silk ocean]

xD

[small notch]

the vid i watched used a valve so i thought i needed it 🤷‍♂️

[ivory condor]

I know the devs have continued to talk about trying to bring rain back for example, but really who knows if that'll happen

[boreal musk]

i never once put valves in all of my fluid system

[small notch]

i think thats fixed it tbh

[hallow flicker]

Rain would be cool.

[ivory condor]

it was in the game pre ue5 upgrade

[frail sleet]

@small notch Use horizontal junctions, not vertical ones. There's a bug with vertical junctions connection height calculation that can massively screw up flow

[lost cloak]

how does void storage work in multiplayer? do we both just take from the same pool?

[boreal musk]

cant wait for the rain weather to obliterate my performance

[small notch]

ok i wont do the vertical ones again ty

[boreal musk]

when the lumen is already bad enough

[dense violet]

its really unreliable for that too

[small notch]

ty for help @boreal musk

[slender quest]

It used a really easy setup before, now engine devs changed it.

[ivory condor]

yeah, idk if it'll come back, maybe, maybe not

[hallow flicker]

Internet multiplayer networking fixes would be much cooler than rain

[ivory condor]

it did add a interesting atmosphere to the game, that it doesn't have anymore, which is a shame

[boreal musk]

void? you mean dimensional depot? it should shared as one in multiplayer

[lost cloak]

yes tj

that thing. ok nice

[reef basin]

None

[reef basin]

Can't prevent backflow with valves

[cunning glade]

But I don't wanna have too make plastic and rubber everywhere I have factory for those

[hybrid nymph]

there's always something wrong, first it was the trains, now I can't get my power backup

whatever, I'll worry about this tomorow