satisfactory

[violet needle]

i cant even split it into 5 machines

cos then i get 784 per group

aaaaaa

alu scrap

i have to do 2 machine blocks

[wild pawn]

aluminum so annoyin lol

man im trying to make a Cooling Systems factory but building the trains is kickin my badoodle gotta bring my heat sinks in from across the map

[unborn spindle]

is there a bug reporting channel?

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @hard ivy

[unborn spindle]

its a graphic bug with climbing ladders

when climbing ladders buildings behind it flicker

except pillars

they seem fine

[feral geyser]

For being a small dev team, these folks sure do keep putting out bangers

Sanctum is hella fun still

Goat Sim is a classic

DRG is great

Wait huh

Oh yeah, dev'd by Ghost Ship, published by Coffee Stain

Still, the point stands.

[bronze dagger]

i can delete everything off the blueprint designer right? it doesnt have to stay?

[wild pawn]

yea Ghost Ship got some serious potential DRG is my second most played game before Minecraft

have 600+ hours

i love draves tm lol

[feral geyser]

Mine go Astroneer, Satisfactory, Fortnite, Minecraft -_- lol

Actually, Fortnite might have more hours than any of them 😭

DRG is on my list though, I've been watching some friends play it and I love it by proxy.

[wild pawn]

omg i played Astronner so much i really need to finish it its been so long i stopped before i activated the last planet aaa

digging through the planets used to be so buggy lord

[halcyon dawn]

why is epic keeping you going

[fallen orbit]

Left satisfactory 6 months ago after playing 150 hours+
Thinking to get back into it but there's no way I would be able to get back to my old save it'll just get too complicated
Any tips

[halcyon dawn]

wdym "because unreal engine 5" unreal engine 5 is completetly seperate from epic

[shy mulch]

Just do one thing at a time

[halcyon dawn]

you either figure it out or restart idk

also if your save was before 1.0 the world might be messed up

[fallen orbit]

I logged in it after 1.1 release

It was fine didn't play it much tho

Idk what I would do without the mercer spheres i had collected lol
That's the only thing that holds me back to restart

[wild pawn]

yea honestly if you remember what to do then hop back in it maybe even tear down some of what yyou did to do it better or reteach yourself whats going on its not bad i just hit 150 hours myself feeling slight burn out so i slowed down because im getting into the phase 4 content

[eager palm]

Yeah, going back to pre-sphere-collection on a fresh playthrough is rough

[fallen orbit]

What I rember doing was working on a really big fuel plant which was half done but had multiple I mean tons of issues which made me ragebait and quit lol

[halcyon dawn]

mercer spheres are used for the dimensional depot, they allow you to put items into another sotrage you can access universally

[wild pawn]

nd also pro tip if u ever died and lost anyy mercer spheres or sloops they have to be in a death crate somewhere they all teleport to a single one like an ender chest tho

[fallen orbit]

And that is a BIG BIG thing

[fallen orbit]

I played on the most peaceful difficulty lol
No attacking and keep inv

[wild pawn]

yea keep inv for sure idc if it seems cheaty the spiders are evil yo

[fallen orbit]

I might just delete my old save
Thatll help me to not get back to it and not quit again

Cuz damn it was getting hectic lol

• the 6 months gap I'll have no clue what am doing xd

[halcyon dawn]

yeah i get the same issue too

[wild pawn]

well if u mean its disorganized bad or spaghetti then i get it but maybe playy it for like an hour or less to see if you want to start from where you left off or go ahead and make a new save to see if you want to start fresh personally id make a new save but not delete my old worlds i always save old worlds on any game

[fallen orbit]

Idk the urge am getting to play satisfactory again is for organization I just want a save to be so clean lol

[wild pawn]

do a new one if you want nothing bad can happen

[feral geyser]

Yeah, start a new save and load back into the old one once you feel warmed up

If it's too cluttered, load back into the new one and start proper

[fallen orbit]

It wasn't spaghetti tho that's one thing but not organized still
My power plant was fkd up for some reason when I turned it on
I went crazy scale on the uh turbo fuel you call it and mis match calcualtions

[wild pawn]

like for me i got iffy once i reached aluminum but now im excited to build all the seperate factories and link them together

[fallen orbit]

It was rough

[wild pawn]

yea def use a claculator or the satisfactory calculator to work on energy plants thats what i do

the math gets funny

[fallen orbit]

What I have plan in mind this time around is
No particular base
Organised train routes and if vehicles always on roadways
No making 1 single BIG factory to produce that particular resource

I produced like a billion aluminium just to produce it so far back in the map again

Even if i do it will be on again archanophobia mode on + no attacking

[wild pawn]

oh yea i made a bomb factory just for spiders

if u get back into it i reccomend figuring out basic nuclear because it makes power easier

[feral geyser]

Stingers are kinda cute actually, when they're not trying to kill you

Same with the hogs

Also, I kinda wish we could feed the flower birds and have them become friends too.

[halcyon dawn]

the huge ones are scary

[humble osprey]

Guys did y'all check the Twitter for satisfactory

[halcyon dawn]

theyre so frail yet large

i did not check twitter

[humble osprey]

Got news coffeestain might be colabing with nms

[cinder jay]

i dont feel like making a factory what are some other fun things i could do

[feral geyser]

Go hunting

[cinder jay]

anything else?

[feral geyser]

Make a factory cart skate park with the curvy foundations.

[cinder jay]

ooo i like that

what abt for the cyber wagon

[feral geyser]

You mean the trashmobile?

What about it?

[cinder jay]

make a skatepark for it

[keen oriole]

cyber trucks are so bad lol

[feral geyser]

If you build that horrendous blob, you will be lucky to get it to drive in a straight line, let alone use it in a skate park.

[cinder jay]

oh iv never driven itr

[feral geyser]

You're better off unlocking it for the achievement and never building it ever.

The Explorer is better by miles, but the king of vehicles is THE SUGAR CUBE.

[cinder jay]

whats that?

[feral geyser]

The tractor lol

[humble osprey]

Did someone ping me

[wild pawn]

wait collab w NMS???

[humble osprey]

Yess

[keen oriole]

imagine

[humble osprey]

They replied to Sean's emoji with a coffee emoji

[reef basin]

explore

[wild pawn]

brooo i love NMS

had like 300+ hrs

[humble osprey]

You know they already have a no man's Sky reference in satisfactory

[feral geyser]

Lmao there is a Futurama reference in Satisfactory

[humble osprey]

Go to photo mode and look for the filter option, in there keep switching thru the filters and you'll find one called "Somebody's sky"

I'm 90% sure this is a no man's Sky reference

[humble osprey]

Where

[feral geyser]

One of the books in the Hub is called "The Mathematics of Wonton Burrito Meals"

On the desk near the computer

[humble osprey]

What does that have to do with Futurama

[feral geyser]

https://youtu.be/3hvzmxarAh8?si=Ybubec8ueeYj1sI5

[wild pawn]

honestly i think NMS did a btter comeback then Cyberpunk NMS was a flop when it first came out lol now its crazy

Cyberpunk still good to ofc

[feral geyser]

S2E2 - Mars University

[wild pawn]

should i watch futurama i never have

lol im uncultured

[feral geyser]

Yes, but only up to season 6 and the movies

[lost wagon]

maybe now NMS will actually have a fun farming/factory system

instead of that basic ass thing that works even when you're not playing the game

[spark sky]

Okay, this is annoying. I'm trying to tear down my old power plant, and everything I try to dismantle I get a "ding" and an exclamation mark.

[lost wagon]

but that's probably a joke, like how Sean's emoji can be a hand waving "Hello" and the studio is called Hello Games, a coffee emoji for Coffee Stain Studio is on the same vein

[stable cipher]

are elevators vanilla now?

[lost wagon]

yes

[stable cipher]

so they just copied linear motion?

[burnt ferry]

'now'? havent they been added in 1.0?

[stable cipher]

ive had linear motion installed since 1.0 and i havnt noticed a difference

lol

[lost wagon]

the elevator aren't even close to eachother

[stable cipher]

are they post aluminum or something, cause ive seen nothing

[burnt ferry]

shop

pre almost everything

[stable cipher]

ive looked through everything

[spark sky]

Yeah, I can't dismantle anything now.

[lost wagon]

it's on Awesome Shop

[burnt ferry]

apparently added in 1.1 only

[stable cipher]

that would probably explain it

[burnt ferry]

not thourough enough

1.1 is vanilla

[spark sky]

Oh, whatever the problem was, it's fixed now.

[burnt ferry]

was your dismantling beam not highlighting the buildigs you pointed at?

[spark sky]

I don't recall, but possibly.

[burnt ferry]

if you press G in dismantling mode you enble a filter

like point to a foundation, press g.. now dismantling will only affect other foundations

[hard ivy]

and R enables blueprint dismantle mode

[burnt ferry]

right

[spark sky]

No, didn't do that, I had just reloaded the game.

[burnt ferry]

that will also prevent the dismantler from highlighting everything thats not a blueprint

[spark sky]

I have run into this before, didn't know what happened then, either.

[burnt ferry]

im talking about you doing it accidentally.. you cant konw whether you did or not with this precondition

[spark sky]

When you hit G, doesn't it come up with something asking for the filter, or does it just filter what you are looking at?

[burnt ferry]

no

[hard ivy]

the latter

[burnt ferry]

like i wrote. you point at wsomething, press g and then the filter is active

only thing you see is a small 'filtered buildings: foo' in the ui

[spark sky]

Okay, well then, I have no idea what I was pointing at.

[burnt ferry]

easy to miss

[spark sky]

Anyway, it's working now, so, onward and upward. Lots to dismantle and then I can try my new blueprint.

[distant badge]

After very light experimentation, I believe I have discovered what makes rail signals placed directly on rail junctions so finicky in 1.1 (with the 'signal loops into itself' error)

It has to do with how the rail junction is built, not how the signal is placed.
You have to aim 'forward' of the rail into the junction when placing both ends of each rail in the junction
If you aim too far backwards (onto the non-junction segement), the rail will place normally... but the game's code with read it backwards and a signal placed on that specific rail junction will error

[clever merlin]

I would love to see electric car types in the game

[placid stirrup]

have I got some news for you

[arctic socket]

whats the news lol does the game already have electric cars?

[rough swift]

😭

[violet needle]

#screenshots wdyt

[placid stirrup]

Easter egg ||you can unlock the cybertruck||

[slate python]

Can someone make a new game and send me the save file

By dms

[feral geyser]

Are you unable to start a new save, or are you testing something?

[slate python]

Testing something

[slate python]

.

[wary fox]

Just set up my basic factory making iron plates, rods , screws, concrete and copper products. Should I use these products to make the stuff needed for the elevator or find new nodes?

[slender quest]

Use these unless your plan demands more materials.

[silk trail]

Can you awesome sink plutonium cells? Or do I need to make rods?

[violet needle]

late game exploration be like:
begone cats, i cast the power of a thousand suns! detonates nuke nobelisk

[sick dragon]

have to make the rods

[hard ivy]

non-fissile uranium, plut pellets, plut cells, ikea lamps and fics rods are not sinkable

[sick dragon]

ikea lamps lol

[violet needle]

honestly just store plutonium

like it has such a low rate of profuction

[burnt ferry]

handling by products is a core aspect of the gameplay

[violet needle]

like just plut refinement brings it from what 720 to 144?

[burnt ferry]

i dont understand why people even consider not to handle it... why are they playing the game in the first place then?

i mean i dont care, but dont suggest not to play the game in order to play the game, it make no sense 😂

[hard ivy]

I mean storing the waste is, in fact, handling it lol

[lime ermine]

It's called put batteries in your explorer

[violet needle]

trains:

[naive pilot]

Does anyone know if there is a command to make things like generator steam appear fro ma further distance?

[peak wasp]

good morning, pioneers

[noble plaza]

i was wondering why i was producing barely any screws and i forgot to put the conveyor belts connecting two of the iron rod constructors to screw constructors 😭

[spark sky]

Hm, it seems that large blueprints don't snap, either to the world grid or to existing foundations (even though the base of them is made of foundations).

[dense violet]

wdym 'large'?

mk3?

[spark sky]

Well, it's not a 1x1, it's a 1x6, the base for my stacked coal power plant.

Everything moves too fast.

[dense violet]

there's no reason it shouldn't be hitting snap points on foundations

[spark sky]

But, I did get it to snap to world on top of another foundation that was snapped to the world grid, it just wouldn't snap to the edge.

I had to nudge it into place after getting it to snap on top of the other foundation.

Now to see if the second one will work the same way.

[dense violet]

oh I think you need blueprint mode or something to be able to do that?

[spark sky]

Yeah, the first blueprint that I did was a stack of personal storage chests on a 1x1 foundation, it wasn't easy, but I got that to snap.

[azure ermine]

yeah blueprint (auto connect) is great for tiling blueprints

when placing

[violet needle]

eh they dont connect for me

for some reason

[azure ermine]

anyone else got this big red HIM in the sidebar of discord, claiming it's a "video adventure" and reward available? is that an ad?

[sweet tusk]

With console edition announced now, I don't know whether to continue with my save I just started recently or wait for the console release.

[silk rose]

can trains make power capacity fluctuations? i dont mean consumption, i mean capacity

[azure ermine]

the autoconnect only snaps to where previous blueprints were placed so if you need to move it over you'd need to go to default mode and carefully place it, then return to autoconnect and they should tile as you want

[azure ermine]

wiki says trains draw a variable amount of power depending how hard they are working, uphill, coasting....but if you're making a lot of power it's probably not going to trip any breakers

[spark sky]

This is the start of my stacked coal power plant (test setup): #screenshots message

[silk rose]

I. mean. capacity. not consumption, not 'drain'

[sweet sapphire]

does the clipping not annoy you?

[azure ermine]

your capacity is your capacity, there are either power producers adding to it or users drawing from it?

[spark sky]

Nope. I've got storage containers clipping into each other. It's just the chimneys.

[sweet tusk]

If you're just talking about the chimneys, I think that's fine. They could be built through the foundations and they all reach above the top most platform so I think it looks pretty good

[sweet sapphire]

wow each to their own i guess

[silk rose]

fluctuation is like 0.8 mw, i dont thinky my power plant has any issues

[azure ermine]

train isn't going to change how much power you're making, only use some of it up. There is mention of it slowing itself down with regenerative brakes but I don't think that's adding power back into the network appreciably, and even if it did, only when going downhill and using brakes

[silk rose]

ok, so it can i guess

there are much hills on the way

[azure ermine]

if it did, it would be very small

[silk rose]

yes, 0.8mw fits

[azure ermine]

the wiki mentions the brakes but doesn't go into any detail

even an idling machine uses 1mw doing nothing but being plugged in

[hard ivy]

0.1 MW

[silk rose]

for that yellow light 💀

[azure ermine]

even smaller then 🙂

[hard ivy]

and yes, trains have regen braking that can generate up to 33 MW iirc

[azure ermine]

I mean, can you count that as power generation, it can only go downhill by going uphill previously.

[silk rose]

oh nice thank you, thats the case

[azure ermine]

potential and kinetic energy

[silk rose]

its not generation but it fluctuates my power grid making me feel bad

[azure ermine]

though the game being a game is only vaguely tied to the way things work in the real world

[hard ivy]

I mean it's still a net loss, but the regen braking appears on the production graph

[violet needle]

damn

i want to go vertical somewhere

but like theres no point

[azure ermine]

sloshing pipes makes my power graph wiggle but it wiggles between 1399 and 1405 so I don't sweat it

[violet needle]

oh SHIT

[silk rose]

dont you dare saying i cant make nukes same way

[violet needle]

something went AWFULLY WRONG

WHY IS MY URANIUM OFF

[azure ermine]

it would need to be like parents talking about the old days when they went to school uphill both ways. Except downhill

[violet needle]

oh FUCK

[spark sky]

An example of storage clipping: #screenshots message

[violet needle]

FUCK FUCK FUCK

[azure ermine]

eh, I like the way tall stacks of containers

they look substantial

[spark sky]

Double the storage while only adding 1/3 of a container to the height.

[azure ermine]

sort of like Dyson Sphere program, when you really built up factory worlds the stacks of stuff made the planet look spiky

[violet needle]

das ist SEHR NICHT GOOD

my drone ran out of fuel somehpw

[azure ermine]

it is not doubling anything, it's still 2 containers just occupying the same space

[violet needle]

and he was responsible for plutonium processi

[spark sky]

The two are attached by a vertical conveyor on the back, or didn't you see that?

[azure ermine]

well unlike the real world, there's no pollution so you can just reset whatever went wrong

I mean sure it's cli[pping

[static oar]

That's what you get for trusting a drone

[azure ermine]

parking two cars close together doesn't make the cars smaller

[sweet sapphire]

takes up less space tho

less vertical space*

[silk rose]

stacking anythig makes it take less space

[azure ermine]

there is so much space in the game though 🙂 You saved a few cubic yards for...

[hard ivy]

less footprint, sure. but not less volume

[spark sky]

Stacking them in the same space, though, takes up even less space.

[sweet sapphire]

same volume smaller surface area

[spark sky]

The thing is, I don't have to make the next floor so high as I would with 2 of them stacked on top of each other.

[silk rose]

less volume, considering that you are not only using cubes. look at this example
\\\\\ + ///////
vs
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

[static oar]

I think this community has more autistic players than any other specifically autistic community...i love this

[silk rose]

damn

[azure ermine]

you clipped 2 items into each other, but it's not a TARDIS. Both objects exist and hold as much as they would unclipped

[sweet sapphire]

no, smaller surface area same volume

[silk trail]

Soo… how long will it take to restart your nuclear plants?

[spark sky]

Yes, but, though they hold the same ammount of stuff, the volume they take up is less.

[azure ermine]

yes you've invented item clipping.

[sweet sapphire]

no cant change volume unless you remove parts of it you are only changing surface area

[silk rose]

yes, as i said in #satisfactory recap with percentages

[silk rose]

#satisfactory message

[spark sky]

No, I've seen it in videos on the game, especially videos on making compact splitters and combiners, clipping the ends of vertical lifts into the splitters and combiners. I just decided to do it with storage containers.

[azure ermine]

for what purpose

[static oar]

And %99 Autism

[silk rose]

inefficient

[sweet sapphire]

only midnight its fine

[spark sky]

For what purpose? So that my building layout fits in the blueprint editor?

[silk rose]

thats players recap, my message was chat recap

[static oar]

When i sleep i dream of conveyor belts and constructors

[spark sky]

Instead of a 6-story building, I can get by with a 4-story building and do the same thing.

[atomic notch]

Same but then i find out im not asleep just down in the factry

[silk rose]

dream industrial fluid buffer filled with coffee

and wake up when i drink it

[violet needle]

i just need to get the backed up waste out

nothing quite permament as 'temporary' waste storage

[azure ermine]

you realize you can put structures and factory floors all the way down to -240 under the world. I challenge you to run out of space in Satisfactory. There's no need to get a whole factory into a cube you can't interact with or reach the parts of.

[static oar]

But isn't Bigger better?

[silk rose]

'and nothing like the man loose inside this building'

[hard ivy]

the volume of the map is like 100 km³

[spark sky]

I can't see or get down there to work on such things, so, irrellevant.

And the blueprint designer has limited space.

[static oar]

Lucky you
If i dream of so much fluid I'm going to wake up with wet pants

[atomic notch]

Compact goes hard

[azure ermine]

this is like putting a car in one of those junk yard crushers and pointing to the mangled cube of broken metal and saying "I fit a whole car in there!"

[silk rose]

with 5x5 mk5 conveyor bus

[atomic notch]

Not bc it saves space or anything it just looks better

[silk rose]

one sip is enough for me to wake up

[spark sky]

Well, it's not quite like that, I can still put stuff in the car, you can't put stuff in a crushed car.

[static oar]

For me
I wake up when it's too late

[silk rose]

id make a meme about that but i dont think i can post it here

[hard ivy]

#satisfactory-memes

[static oar]

You can send it to me

[silk rose]

neither i cant there, only dms for my own risk

[silk rose]

i dont think ill make it

[spark sky]

Anyway, connecting two containers together with conveyors increases the storage, I just put the containers overlapping.

[silk rose]

yes, if they overlap, density increases

comaperd to industrial storage

[spark sky]

Using the normal containers, I can stack them as tall as I want and still have them clipping, connected and storing the same thing.

[azure ermine]

ok I made the discord ad go away by watching a movie trailer

[silk rose]

dreaming about it is already too much for you

[azure ermine]

never thought discord would have ads

[silk rose]

there are 'ways' to make discord better

but discord doesnt want me to tell everyone on their servers

yes just sip more coffee

[spark sky]

Anyway, I'm wasting time here instead of moving doggos.

[silk rose]

[ADA] Time spent daydreaming will be deducted from your sustenance budget.

leo

wake up

leo replace me imma sleep

im out of coffee

[ADA] I just called the FICSIT doctors. They told me there is definitely no danger from repeat exposure to these signals.

[azure ermine]

what's the best way to get rid of extra water. Making sloppy alumina and using it to make scrap gives leftover water

[silk rose]

wet concrete

[hard ivy]

put it back into alumina production

[bronze dagger]

how many constructors does 8 smelters power

[silk rose]

deppends

[bronze dagger]

on

[silk rose]

recipes

[hard ivy]

the production of the smelters and the consumption of the constructors

[static oar]

Don't click on his profile guys
Its on light mode
You go blind
My eyes are bleeding rn

[silk rose]

@static oar may i go sleep

[static oar]

This has to be war crime or something

[bronze dagger]

ok ive probably been ignoring those numbers

[silk rose]

im not evil, mom

[hard ivy]

you won't get far in this game by ignoring numbers lol

[static oar]

You may
Be sure put a coffe mug next to your bed

[silk rose]

i dont have kids 💀

so to step 2

go sleepy

'gone'

[bronze dagger]

so if I have 8 constructors making 30 iron plates a min and 8 smelters making 30 iron ingots a min I cant add anything else from that smelter line right?

i guess im terified of splitting my iron ore lines up

[topaz shale]

I'm going to go all free-form for my train network. Might even plan it based on the roads to have a nice natural look. How does on plan a dual rail system without using blueprints for the actual rails anyways?

[silk rose]

ok sleep

[static oar]

Brother i promise you, you will eventually end up splitting something

[bronze dagger]

im just so confused about how youre supposed to get all these ores to places because i keep end up getting my ores to run too slow and holding the line up

[hard ivy]

CMs exist to be @ed

[violet needle]

#screenshots

draining the backup as well as the old 'temporary' storage

[static oar]

Just chill and don't sweat it
You'll get the hang of it eventually

[bronze dagger]

yeah but that phase 2 rocket staring at me something bad 😭

[static oar]

screams in aluminum processing

[graceful crystal]

guys can you help me pls?
Am I the only one who`s game lags every time I use a builder, especially with belts?

[bronze heart]

please if any dev is reading this I can't play the game because I need an controller to play on linux I love the game I just can't play it after I moved to linux

how can I fix thia

this

realy

[eager palm]

The trick is to play the game in your head while you’re lying awake at night with insomnia anyway, uses far less GPU/CPU.

[graceful crystal]

I got 4060ti and 7 5700X, 32GB RAM
I tried to set graphics to low, turn off DLSS and like-it stuff - didnt help

[eager palm]

Render scale?

[bronze heart]

but like I need a fix for this

[graceful crystal]

for belts - low
other... as the in-game stress test set

[eager palm]

Leave render scale at 100%, no reason to push above unless filming a documentary.

[graceful crystal]

may it be because I downloaded the game on HDD?

[eager palm]

Possibly.

[violet needle]

predicament sorted

[graceful crystal]

well damn it, i guess i`ll get used to it

[wheat parcel]

do dropped items like nuclear pasta disappear?

[eager palm]

Post up in questions and help, someone will see it eventually 🙂

[eager palm]

No despawn mechanic afaik, you can sprinkle leaves everywhere to ruin your save performance 🙂

[keen oriole]

that means u can use any item to decorate!

even slugs which looks great.

oh why not

[eager palm]

For best results, make stack size 1 before decorating

[spark sky]

I have a Sinking feeling.

Recycle, regardless of the cost!

Soylent Green.

[static oar]

You know i think depending on the cost
At some point recycling will become manufacturing if you think about it

[eager palm]

Sometimes it’s more expensive

[violet needle]

next fuel checkup - 700h

[spark sky]

The problem with recycling is that, it always costs more than you want it to. Everything has to be clean, that means either you wash your recyclables, or someone else has to. If you do it, you have to pay for soap and water. If they do it, you have to pay for it anyway, through the cost of the recycled material. And someone pointed out that not everything that says it's recyclable really is.

[keen oriole]

Wait until you find out where your recycling goes

[spark sky]

Oh, I know that a lot of it goes to landfills.

[wicked nacelle]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/556448894993563659

[spark sky]

Anyway, Ficsit lies, too, you don't always get all your materials back when you dismantle stuff.

(When you dismantle something and try to place it somewhere else and are told that you are missing materials, you know something disappeared.)

[eager palm]

If only I could put it back in the void when I dismantle, instead of having it all shoved in my bags

[hard ivy]

dismantle crate?

[spark sky]

Nope, empty inventory before dismantling, standing right there, something missing. I don't recall which items I dismantled or which resources were missing. Perhaps it dismantled the components, too? I didn't think of that till now, will have to check next time it happens.

[slate python]

Can anyone make a new world and give me the save game

I want to try something

[primal flax]

hey just wandering if rocket fuel is any better than turbofuel in the jetpack?

[slate python]

Wiki

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch jetpack

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=jetpack

[spark sky]

How would that be any diffierent than you creating a new world?

[slate python]

I can’t right now

[wicked nacelle]

check dm

[primal flax]

thanks

[slate python]

Thanks

[violet needle]

the suspiciosly machine-looking crate

[dim badger]

It has been a week and im still working on the space elevator

[spark sky]

I know about the crate, there was none, just what went in my inventory.

Unless it stuck the crate under the map.

But, doesn't the crate only appear if your inventory is full?

[violet needle]

ever thought the eggs in the swamp are spider eggs? yuck

[elder apex]

if there was a portable miner involved in the dismantling it might have merged into existing portable miners in a hand slot and therefore be unavailable for building with

[violet needle]

yea

[spark sky]

Hm, didn't think of that.

[feral geyser]

That's exactly what it is, huh?

[spark sky]

Not necessarily, since I don't know what it was that I disassembled.

We're talking months ago.

It could have been some Ficsmas stuff, for all I know.

Anyway, I'm done for today. Trying to move 24 doggos, one at a time, is tedious.

[elder apex]

also, if you have an existing dismantle crates around 1.1 will try to put newly dismantled overflow items into them first, not sure how far away it will do that at

[violet needle]

HOLY FUCK HE WENT FLYING LOOOOOOOOOL #screenshots

[sweet tusk]

I doubt there's any information yet, but do we know if console release will be in the same state as PC when it releases?

[keen oriole]

I want it to have mouse and keyboard support.

[keen shuttle]

how do you get the different suits? like i see multyple different kinds of suit in the menu but it seems there no option in the menu to switch and the body equipements dont seem to help

[celest kestrel]

in the room in the hub on the left side

[keen shuttle]

honestly the more i watch stuff about this game the more i realize that i should builth all of my stuff on fondations and not just pilled atop each other

[celest kestrel]

yes its better and often more organized

until you unlock new stuff

[white dawn]

Lessons to take with you to the next factory, eh? :)

(Another good reason to avoid trying to centralize production! Each new factory is an opportunity to avoid old mistakes and start making new ones. :)

[violet needle]

Imho
Centralized with satelite plants for basics is the way for anything big

Like make plastic and oil in smaller plants then ship to the main building for final parts

[white dawn]

Nah, IMO decentralized is nearly always simpler in the long run

Especially for big projects like final parts. Fewer resources to gather locally, nice smaller factories which are easier to manage and plan out, etc

Though of course that's all personal preference. :D

[keen shuttle]

welp, mistakes where made, im on stage 3 and i kinda wanna start over, like the factory cant produce all that well and it is kinda hellish whit all the conveyors on the floor and shit. #screenshots message
should i restart?

[rancid plover]

is biomass/biofuel more efficient than leaves/wood, or are they just more compact?

[keen oriole]

it's more efficient especially because you can slooop each step

so it's 4x+

[empty hatch]

is there a way to see all current item production in a single list view?

[dense violet]

mods or save editors maybe? otherwise just keep track of your factories

[empty hatch]

sounds good, wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking anything...

[dense violet]

this is a solid planner to use for keeping track of things, just need to save the links to a spread sheet or something https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[empty hatch]

definitely familiar with that. i've been working on exporting it into a 3rd party drawing tool because I hate how it loses my placement anytime I update amounts or refresh

[dense violet]

faster to just break up the groups of machines and belts in the spread sheet

saves tons of time

[sick dragon]

Can use satisfactory modeler as well

[cunning glade]

how do the 2 outputs on trucks work

like if i wanna have 2 diff items coming out of them how does one do this without them switching outputs

[shrewd palm]

i dont think it does, you'd have to have a belt coming out with a smart splitter on the end

the extra outputs/inputs are just to help with throughput

[lost wagon]

you don't, the two outputs is just to empty the station faster

[cunning glade]

i see

[shrewd palm]

If you want to put more than one item on a station you’ll have to use smart splitters

[cunning glade]

dont have yet

atleast ion think

[shrewd palm]

You get it from the caterium line in the MAM

[lost wagon]

you don't need smart splitter to put more than one item, you just make a sushi belt

you need smart splitter just to separate the sushi belt by pulling specific items from it

I have a factory that feeds 7 different items inside the same station for the truck to transport and in the destination smart splitter separate them

[neon cloak]

how tf did i overlook truck stations getting unlocked

btw should i use foundations for roads or specific roads will be unlocked in future tiers?

[shrewd palm]

you can get asphalt form the awesome shop

[neon cloak]

oof i've never built it yet

[lost wagon]

you can use the natural roads too and foundations in places for ramps, bridge and stuff, that's what I do

[shrewd palm]

you should

[neon cloak]

what's better cost-wise?

[shrewd palm]

thats how you get all the cosmetics and stuff

[shrewd palm]

use the natural roads, although concrete isnt exactly expensive

so long as you can fill up a large container with concrete every now and then you'll never run out

[lost wagon]

it's all about the looks, if you want to pave the roads or make use of the natural terrain

[shrewd palm]

i prefer to pave over things and use trains if necessary, otherwise i'll just belt things around

once you have a decent train network set up trains are so much better than trucks

[lost wagon]

for me trains is just for cross biomes transportation, trucks for within biomes and belts only if the distance is a stone throw away

[neon cloak]

i have constructor that makes 37.5 concrete per minute

oh hell naw my industrial storage is full of iron ingots i need to get back to work

[shrewd palm]

you arent

hand crafting everything are you

[neon cloak]

ye i just got rid of everything to rebuilt anew

[shrewd palm]

fair enough

[sweet tusk]

Not that it's anything major for the people here, but I just finished my first tractor highway. It's so much faster and nicer looking than stretching belts across the map.

[halcyon dawn]

wdym faster? faster to transport items or faster to setup logistics from resurces to your factory

[sick dragon]

Ultimately it's only as fast as your fastest belt anyway so

[halcyon dawn]

exactly

[sick dragon]

Trucks are just fun to use

Like trains

[halcyon dawn]

i hate the setup for trucks and trains, but thats also bc ive never made a factory large enough to need resources over 2km away or in large quantities

[sick dragon]

I use trucks for regional logistics

[halcyon dawn]

so i just find a place reletively close to all needed resources

[zealous spear]

Hello I just have a quick question I'm using packaged water for my alumina solution is it able to keep up with the sloppy aluminum recipe?

[sick dragon]

Like a factory from one end of desert to the other end

[sick dragon]

I mean ultimately depends on how much water you inputting and if you are recycling

[halcyon dawn]

well that depends on how much water youre producing and how much you need

[sick dragon]

Without knowing the numbers we can't say

[zealous spear]

Well that's the thing should I produce exact amounts or more than enough

[halcyon dawn]

how are you bringing it in

[sick dragon]

You always will have to deal with the water
And will not be Ble to recycle

[halcyon dawn]

trains or belts?

[sick dragon]

Enough to make a closed loop

[zealous spear]

belts

[neon cloak]

lets gooooo asphalt foundation

[halcyon dawn]

realistically you only need to make enough for what you need

[zealous spear]

I have an idea for this already

[sick dragon]

I mean sure but how are you dealing with the scrap refinery water

[zealous spear]

I'm just gonna send the excess water from making scrap into a packager that's using the emptied containers and loop it back into the unpackaging system

[halcyon dawn]

how are you even using packaged water to make alumina?

[zealous spear]

after the waters unpackaged split off the empty containers into 2 resources 1 goes into the packager with the excess water one goes into the system bringing water back to the main machine

[halcyon dawn]

why are we packaging water anyways 😭

[zealous spear]

Because I hate the area that this resource is

[tawdry forge]

Anyone know why I can't manually load or unload from truck stations? Is it just tractors that have that problem?

[halcyon dawn]

is it on autopilot? are there items in the truck or station? are you positioned close enough?

[shrewd palm]

theres a lake in the middle of the red forest and another nearby, those 2 spots are probably the best places for an aluminum build

[halcyon dawn]

i think i made my aluminum in the giant forest

[shrewd palm]

also on the crater plateau next to the red forest

[shy mulch]

That's enough for tonight. Setting up my new aluminum plant is making my eyes turn inside out

[shrewd palm]

real

[zealous spear]

Yeah except for I'm not really willing to keep my aluminum half way across the planet

[shrewd palm]

most complicated thing until nuclear at least

[halcyon dawn]

i dont understand the sturggle with aluminum

istg its like 3 steps 😭

[zealous spear]

Rather use the three pures right next to my base

[halcyon dawn]

make slop, make scrap, smelt it

[shrewd palm]

dealing with byproducts is tricky to wrap your mind around when you're new to the game/dont have a planner tool i guess

[shy mulch]

It's not complicated, just the scale is a bit frustrating. I've challenged myself to do it in a tight space, and there's soooo many belts and pipes

[shrewd palm]

that what it was for me

[halcyon dawn]

good thing were in 3d

[halcyon dawn]

idk byproducts made sense to me, if i can use it somewhere just merge it, and if i cant find a way to sink it

[zealous spear]

Yeah and water and liquid is still finicky in this game that I don't even want to attempt to bring water into an area that's not 2 inches away from it

[topaz shale]

I'm not gonna lie, making rail by going through the roads is actually quite fun to do.

[halcyon dawn]

what does this even mean

[shy mulch]

I've already got a few alu plants up and running but I need a much bigger scale, got most of the bauxite in the world being used now

[topaz shale]

The map has roads that are relatively flat places and so building railways on them is actually quite fun and easy to do.

[halcyon dawn]

in my world im gonna use all of my aluminum for my nuclear power plant 😭

[halcyon dawn]

thats what you mean

[shy mulch]

In fact I'm gonna check on SCIM, I might actually be using all of it now

[halcyon dawn]

theres 12k bauxite if you overclock it if i remember right

[shrewd palm]

so long as you use pumps to transport long distance everything should be fine, water cant backflow when its being force in one direction (only up hills anyways, horizontal it doesnt matter)

[shrewd palm]

something like that? last i checked it was 12300 but the plant i built is only 12000

[halcyon dawn]

sorry i roudned down 300 units i is 12300

[shrewd palm]

impure node isnt worth the trouble and 12000 aluminum is more than you're ever gonna need

[shy mulch]

Yes, according to SCIM theres still some left. Good I can use that later when I don't hate myself. Using 9300 out of 12300 atm

[halcyon dawn]

guys converting is such a weird concept

i think ive used the converter like once or twice outside of ficsite

[shrewd palm]

you need it a lot for the base level tier 5 resources i think

im nowhere near actually using them, i just have mk6 belts automated while i catch up on t4 stuff

[halcyon dawn]

need what alot?

[shy mulch]

Plenty other things to use converter on

[shrewd palm]

converters

[halcyon dawn]

wth

[dense violet]

they aren't very good no. Usually SAM is nowhere near you and if you have to import something anyway you might as well just import the thing you need

[halcyon dawn]

sorry i mean converting raw resources to other raw resources

[shy mulch]

Yeah I don't do that.

[shrewd palm]

my run up to 1.0 launch was very messy which resulted in a bit of a speedrun to get t5 unlocked

now i need to automate a bunch of stuff from t4 that i should have ages ago, as well as a handful of things from tier 3 that i tore down with 1.0 launch

[halcyon dawn]

oh you kept your save through 1.0?

[shrewd palm]

yeah

everything was designed very poorly but i didn't want to let it go

on the bright side i have a small island of nuclear waste!

[halcyon dawn]

idk just heard id miss some story if i kept an old save is why i restarted

[halcyon dawn]

thats so nice!

[shrewd palm]

i've started a few new ones but only end up making it to t2 until i get bored and make a megafactory in my main save or something

[halcyon dawn]

why not make a mega factory in a new save

ngl im scared to make mega factories, i just dont know what i need and how much

[boreal musk]

use planner

[shrewd palm]

things like satisfactory tools and satisfactory modeler really help

absolutely no way i'd be able to keep track of everything in my head

[halcyon dawn]

yeah but dont people sometimes expand their factories over time, or do they have an end goal and just build what they can atm until they reach their production goal?

[halcyon dawn]

yeah i use modeller alot

[shrewd palm]

the way i've done it is get basically everything unlocked

and then almost completely start over and rebuild with the best belts and whatnot so that i have all the basic resources out of the way

and then go ham from there

[halcyon dawn]

so you mega factory each phase?

[boreal musk]

no such thing as expanding for me, i planned all stuff i need until post game

for example, my last save was 20/min bwd project, and then i just break down how much things i need for it

[halcyon dawn]

or deconstruct your old mega factory aswell?

[shrewd palm]

set up train network, etc

[tawdry forge]

It works on autopilot, yet I can't get it to work manually.

I was just trying to simplify delivery of some project parts

[halcyon dawn]

whats bwd

[wicked nacelle]

ballistic warp drive -- highest sink point item

[halcyon dawn]

ah

and just the highest tier item

[wicked nacelle]

if you want to max sink points, you make almost entiretly slooped BWD's

[halcyon dawn]

makes sense

[shrewd palm]

it used to be a bunch of smallish factories scattered around, now i have the entire grassy fields for basic resources, some largish area of the east side of the map for aluminum, west coast, for plastic/rubber, currently working on a nuclear power plant in the rocky desert, planned mega space elevator parts factory in red desert, and then planning SAM refining in the plateau covered in craters next to the red forest

still not sure if i want to put the SAM there, might move it to the red desert

[halcyon dawn]

i see, yeah im still a tiny factory builder

[shrewd palm]

i really like putting everything in one place but it hurts my pc so hard

[halcyon dawn]

make like 1-4 items at 1-2 machines worth a minute

that was a small part of my choice to play like this

[shrewd palm]

my nuclear plant already runs at 20fps and i dont even have uranium fuel rods automated yet (getting very close tho, just need crystal oscillators)

[halcyon dawn]

oof

maybe we dont let it run yet

[shrewd palm]

im very scared for when machines are actually running

because that 20fps is when its idle

[halcyon dawn]

oh.

yeah my end game plan for the game is to make a mega nuclear power plant which makes 1,470,000mw

[shrewd palm]

gl with that

im only doing uranium for 630GW

[halcyon dawn]

yeah i min maxxed all three rods

[shrewd palm]

i was thinking about going all the way to fisconium but decided against it

used too many resources for other things i wanted to do

[halcyon dawn]

it gets really expensive on sam and bauxite

[shrewd palm]

yeah

[cedar kestrel]

does anyone still have the particle accelerator "why do girls only want" meme? I cant find it, thx in advance

[halcyon dawn]

especially since i needed to purposefully make dark matter residue, and ironically the cheapest and still sinkable item for the case was the ai expansion server

the only thing that kept me under world limits were power shards but i couldnt sink them so theyed overflow eventually

[shrewd palm]

i just want to get t5 done and beat the game

by the time ive done that it will probably be time for college or something

[halcyon dawn]

im literally hours away from beating the game but i dont feel like it bc my friend quit and it feels so depressing to be on that world now

its like a wasteland

[shrewd palm]

real

[tawdry forge]

I always got bored around tier four, but a friend of mine tipped me off that my sense of scale was waaaay too small for the game.

So now I'm trying to bumble my way through building a megafactory.

[halcyon dawn]

no scale is too small if youre patient or slow enough

[topaz shale]

I'm planning on building only a single machine's worth of production for each of the phase 4 parts. Though will make it so that I can expand, if needed.

[thick oak]

Your name is excellent and I wanted to tell you.

[shrewd palm]

ty

[tawdry forge]

I've got a pretty good smeltery in the desert near the one coal beach/spidercave. Once I unlock the max tier miner, I'll be able to reduce it from using 4 miners to 2, and then just build another smeltery to double production.

So at the very least I'm producing iron at a ridiculous rate.

Takes a couple minutes to refill an industrial storage crate

[halcyon dawn]

thats nice

[shrewd palm]

i need to get a decent steel foundry online

i just have beams/pipes automated rn

[halcyon dawn]

ive never realy made factories that rely on other factories :P

[tawdry forge]

I cut out as much steel as I could, but some things still need steel beams.

[neon cloak]

is it ok to use power tower platform only for zipline purposes?

[halcyon dawn]

it all comes down to im too lazy to belt things far or setup rail/roads, and once i get drones why not just make it all in one spot

[neon cloak]

or is there cheaper method

[halcyon dawn]

ofc

[halcyon dawn]

wdym cheaper method

[neon cloak]

ehhhhhh idk i doubt i can make long enough wires without power tower

[shrewd palm]

cheapest way to get around is hypertubes

[tawdry forge]

I did that once. After I had all its component parts fed into the dimensional depot. One run I made something I called "the grand circuit", which basically looped around the whole continent.

Good way to get around, and made a fine power grid.

[halcyon dawn]

oh.

[neon cloak]

reminds me of Death Stranding zipline network

[silk ocean]

Cheapest and fastest way is hypercannons and the jetpack xD

[halcyon dawn]

idek what this means either

[tawdry forge]

I'm trying to use the new hypertube tools to make a cheaper version of my vertical relay.

[shrewd palm]

basically just bigger power poles that are really good for long distance

power towers^

[halcyon dawn]

duh

im so confused what this zipline convo is about

[shrewd palm]

just getting around the map i think

[halcyon dawn]

he asked if there was a cheaper way, i said wdym and baboon said a sentence i couldnt comprehend

[shrewd palm]

ahh

i think they just want to know if theres a better way of making long and uninterrupted wires to zipline on

[halcyon dawn]

oh

[last jackal]

Power towers are extremely cheap though.

How cheaper does one want it?

[halcyon dawn]

i mean you dont even get interrupted on the power towers in fact if you have 2 wires going different directions you can hold that direction like it is a road

[last jackal]

I have a nice zipline starting from the grass plains all the way to the west coast oil field. It's like a 3-4 minute zipline ride that's pretty scenic and gives me nice time to afk while going between them.

[tawdry forge]

I'm thinking I might try to make trains work this time

[neon cloak]

it's scary ziplining above abyss

[tawdry forge]

So don't?

[neon cloak]

but not scary enough to use truck to get to juicy caterium

pure caterium

[tawdry forge]

Caterium is basically only used for quickwire. As soon as I find a source, I set up a quick and dirty factory to dump all I'll ever need into the depot.

[shrewd palm]

so long as you put blocks every 8 or so foundations, put paths at the entrance of every intersection with blocks at the exit, and use multiple trains along with buffers to get the right throughput there shouldn't be very many problems

[last jackal]

"Only for quickwire" is like. A pretty bold thing to say. Considering it's one of the most used mid-late resource ever.

But if you just don't use any of the alts, I guess.

[shrewd palm]

its like the cheapest resource after copper iirc

[last jackal]

Eh more like aluminum for that imo.

[wicked nacelle]

It's not even close. You can run out of bauxite on the map much easier than cat.

You could do a build that focused on ai expansion servers, and maybe then it would matter... but there's really no reason to do that other than just a different build challenge for .. funsies

[frail sleet]

quickwire is like screws, it's 5x easier to transport the ingots and then process them in front of the machine that needs them

and it's needed in a lot of mid-lategame recipies

depot can't automate

[topaz shale]

Non-straight rails look much nicer than just straight rails. At least for traversing across the world.

[wicked nacelle]

sort of? You likely need to belt in copper too to stretch the ingots... and then the assemblers are large. I find it easier to just belt in 3-4 belts of quickwire vs 2 for cat and copper ingots

[hybrid nymph]

Hey guys, I just fixed my electric bike. I am just finishing up my homework right now, then I'm going to hop on the game 😀

[dense violet]

#design-and-architecture message

[topaz shale]

Yeah much nicer, indeed. Though I'm running with dual tracks for my first train line. Connecting the red desert starting area to the plains.

[dense violet]

oh these are dual. Just Top and Bottom drive rather than left and right

stacked rail can hug terrain very well

[topaz shale]

Oh yeah I meant mine are just left and right. Yours look quite nice. I'm mainly following the roads to make the train line and using a support blueprint to attach the rails to.

[topaz shale]

#design-and-architecture message

That's what I got. I might look into having the rails be top and bottom though I might just stick with a single design to keep everything uniform.

[dense violet]

top and bottom tracks are ... basically exactly like side by side rail.

in how you work them.

[heavy pine]

Took me a few days of planning, procrastinating, and building but I've finally got 5 supercomputers/min.

[topaz shale]

Hell yeah there we go!

[rough swift]

after 300 hours of gameplay and I finally built a train system

holy fuck i was missing out

[topaz shale]

I wish I could blueprint a station set up with the rails so I wouldn't have to keep hand placing the station rails.

Being back in the rocky desert is a wild feeling since that was the last starting area I used though that run did not last nearly as long as my current one does.

[rough swift]

yep the rails are very annoying, im considering installing some mods for it to spline longer

[heavy pine]

Of course, now I still need to set up heat sinks, cooling systems, and fused frames. That's gonna be a while.

[boreal musk]

do mind you by installing that mod, your entire rail network will depend on that mod bcs everything will broke if you uninstalled them after placing all the rails using it

[dense violet]

your rails will be different objects

[topaz shale]

It isn't too bad if you use supports to place down the rails. Helps over very difficult terrain.

[dense violet]

keep pylons about 12 foundations apart and just connect them

[topaz shale]

Or just place them down freely. They are spaced about that far but I just eyeball them.

Also I'm very happy that satisfactory does the rail signals a lot more simply than factorio. Just having a single signal for an intersection area is amazing.

[dense violet]

you probably want signals in between too unless you have a lot of intersections along teh way, otherwise you can only have 1 train in between every junction

[topaz shale]

I may need to do some testing but I thought that as long as another train hasn't taken a single rail path inside the intersection that another train is allowed to go through.

But yeah as long as a train can get out of the intersection, it should be fine.

[dense violet]

well it's more that if you've got 1 km of rail going in a direction, you have multiple blocks on it so multiple trains can all go down that length of track

[hybrid nymph]

Okay I just finished my homework. I'm here for the rest of the night 😄

[topaz shale]

Oh yeah for sure. I think every other pylon has a block signal just in case if I ever decide to use large trains for my future bases.

[topaz shale]

I swear just learning to build my factories in a modular way has really helped me fall in love with this game again. My old way of building was just not good at all.

[tawdry forge]

So apparently ADA calls you a psychopath if you kill a lizard doggo.

[peak wasp]

i fell in love with this game when i started making videos for it, like last month

[tawdry forge]

Deservedly.

[limpid cairn]

why would you do that

you monster...

[peak wasp]

ive had thi game for like 2 years?

[peak wasp]

imma reply to!!! HOW COULD U!!!

[tawdry forge]

I was just too curious!

I regret everything!

[peak wasp]

its okie i forgive u

[limpid cairn]

how could you forgive a monster

[past robin]

ok why are mergers not merging

[dense violet]

you pissed off the gnomes inside them

[past robin]

honestly if they stop working like this i'll make them even angrier

[dense violet]

you've probably got a bugged connection

[willow glen]

reconstruct the belt, my guess is it’s snapped to a really closeby pole (possibly one clipped inside the merger) and not the merger itself

[past robin]

i've tried that several times

I haven't tried remaking the merger, i'll try that

[dense violet]

make sure there isn't and old belt stand clipped inside

[past robin]

rebuilding the merger worked, not sure what was wrong but it works ig 😭

[tawdry forge]

Is there a way to get the giant stilt whale things out of your factories without killing them?

I'm suddenly feeling very environmentally friendly.

[past robin]

love taps with the zapper

[willow glen]

uhh, they run if you hit them, but they need a path outwards. And they can just respawn inside anyway, I’ve got a few residents in my spire coast factory

[past robin]

where is this sam ore

[willow glen]

Imo just use SCIM to map look for it, but once you find it you really can’t miss it (bright purple)

often in caves or really high up

[past robin]

I scanned for it, but it's like in the floor

[willow glen]

find the cave entrance, also viewable on SCIM if you’re stumped

[tawdry forge]

Cave then. My go to SAM node is the spider cave next to the glyph beach in the desert.

[past robin]

this one is like south of the desert

[tawdry forge]

Once you lay enough infrastructure, the spiders stop spawning

[past robin]

my go to node is the one on that tall pillar next to the waterfall

pure node, with a fully overclocked mk3 miner there is exactly enough impure iron nearby to get many trigons

[tawdry forge]

I don't think I'd found that one yet. Noted

[past robin]

thats where i've done my initial sam related stuff in past play throughs

[neon cloak]

i've discovered all biomes and now cruising around desert

it's less scary and more resourceful than i thought

[noble topaz]

wheres the best place to make a adaptive control unit, i want it in a place where everything i need to close, or semi close

[dense violet]

depends on the recipes you use.

make a plan and scout locations at the same time

also depends on the volume yo uwant to make

[noble topaz]

base recipes, and just one manufacturer at 100% speed

[dense violet]

100% speed doesn't matter, it's final output pm

[dense violet]

all basic recipes. Have a scout around either in game or using an online map https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=K4uBRpogfrnwaFIG30CS

you could dramatically reduce the resources you need though with some alt recipes

[noble topaz]

unless theres alt recipes for everything that doesnt require me to use oil in the production line, irdc

[dense violet]

I think so yeah

[past robin]

I made them in the bottom right lake area

[dense violet]

Crytal computer plus a different circuit board recipe

[halcyon dawn]

what item

[noble topaz]

adaptive control unit

[willow glen]

I don’t think there’s any way to eliminate oil, you can eliminate copper for computers tho with a lot of oil and some iron wire

heavy modular frames just need a lot of iron and some coal. Then combine those 2 somewhere else

[halcyon dawn]

youd have to use copper and quartz mostly

[dense violet]

they don't know what they are talking about
crystal computer + silicon circuit board

[dense violet]

no oil https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=usWg376HilyWEwxP8Vg4

[willow glen]

there’s so many alts in this game jeez

[boreal musk]

crystal computer and silicon cb my fav alt, just need to bring in quartz and i can make computer without oil in grassy plain

[dense violet]

depending on your location though you'd probably want to edit the plan further

[willow glen]

oil is usually the one thing I embrace more of, try to eliminate quartz and caterium where possible cuz they’re not in good spots for me

[past robin]

opinion on triangles

[dense violet]

they're fine?

[past robin]

what about circles

[dense violet]

Pretty great 🙂

[past robin]

seems biased

[dense violet]

misspelt 'based'

😛

[past robin]

what if I took the circle and put it in a box so it had 4 sides of equal length

[dense violet]

sounds like the circle would be hidden. Less interesting.
a square inside the square would at least have some external curves

[past robin]

we should ban all curves

[cunning glade]

Man trucks are fucking annoying

[past robin]

trains are far better

[cunning glade]

Well I don't have trains yet

[past robin]

drones are also amazing

[cunning glade]

So u can't add a custom node too a route is what im seeing

[white dawn]

They definitely take some getting used to. I do also think that Tractors are a bit easier to drive with; depending on your route needs you may not even need the extra capacity provided by trucks

[cunning glade]

Cuz for whatever reason my truck isn't loading the stuff now when it was

[white dawn]

Correct, you can't add nodes to an already-recorded route. When a vehicle enters a vehicle station with a yellow "pause" node, the station should perform whatever action it's configured to do (and the vehicle will wait there for however long the pause node is set to -- the station loads/unloads at 2 stacks per second)

[cunning glade]

The pause node isn't there anymore

[white dawn]

Ah, that's a weird one then

[cunning glade]

So too fix I'll need too re do the whole route

[boreal musk]

you dont need to, just use the recorded path

[white dawn]

Maybe save the game and try deleting + readding the truck station? I believe that the route should actually auto-add a yellow pause node in that case

I've not seen disappearing station-pause nodes myself but it could be that you're hitting some edge case

[cunning glade]

I'll replace it see if it replaces

It's doing the run back so

Just riding it too see if it loads

Am enjoying

After playing Factorio some hard too say which is harder tbh

But I am early game

[dense violet]

the games are very different.
the milestones are basically a tutorial towards a sandbox like game about designing dedicated systems
Your own personal projects can be anywhere in the complexity chart

[cunning glade]

Oh I agree

There different

Both alot of fun and super addictive

[dense violet]

if you want a giant challenge, create a giant factory that only uses only Single Input Sushi Load Balancing

[past robin]

the idea of that hurts

[dense violet]

it should, yes

[cunning glade]

Okay so yeah my truck just drives past the stop cool

[dense violet]

yeah you gotta record a pause, but it will transfer items as it drives past. Just probalby not as much as you'd like

[limpid cairn]

i just fixed my train signaling problem... just took 3h

[noble topaz]

ive seen a particular frog play end game (with space exploration) and its gets complicated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYcAsNCH7Zc
this video to be specific

[limpid cairn]

factorio is easily harder than satisfactory, just alone that you dont have infinite nodes makes it hard

[frail sleet]

https://i.imgur.com/TCcTtWT.png o no

The QA site security certificate expired an hour and 20 minutes ago

[limpid cairn]

what other fuel types can you use for drones ?

besides batteries and turbo fuel +

[frail sleet]

fuel, rocket fuel, ionized fuel, uranium/plutonium/ficsonium rods

[neon cloak]

i managed to get 7 hard drives and it will take 70 minutes to scan dem all

[frail sleet]

you can put down a MAM as you are hard drive searching and set them researching

and then delete it again

[neon cloak]

sounds like trolling

im falling for it

nah i tried it before

[tropic juniper]

it works. all mams in thew orld access the same queue

[limpid cairn]

yeah sadly

[limpid cairn]

with uranium you mean raw uranium right? like not processed or something

[neon cloak]

cyrillic nicknames 🔥

[limpid cairn]

also can i transport uranium with drones while the drone runs on uranium

[neon cloak]

stumbling upon uranium was DAYUMMM WHAT'S THE SOUND
also some green beast wondering around

[frail sleet]

fuel rods, not raw uranium

[limpid cairn]

😔

[frail sleet]

i consider rocket fuel the best accessible fuel for drones (alternative: batteries), and ionized the best overall. Rocket is nice because it also runs the jetpack and you can process it another step into ionized for direct replacement later.

[limpid cairn]

i cant use rocket fuel yet since i dont have nitrogen gas

also im too lazy to craft batteries

[frail sleet]

you unlock nitrogen and drones at ~ the same time

[limpid cairn]

yeah but i dont have it unlocked yet

[hollow vector]

batteries are so simple

its like 2 refineries and 1 blender

[frail sleet]

first thing to do in p4 is make some basic aluminum (gives better and cheaper belts too), then you can handcraft some RCU's and you have it. You already do those things to unlock drones because they use the same unlock materials, and drones cost RCU's.

Handcrafting or feeding some RCU's at the start of the phase is fine IMO because automating them in the quantities that you'll want is quite a big event.

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> QA Site Let's Encrypt cert expired

[quasi frigate]

question, when you make a hypertube cannon, to get far, how are you supposed to get back? if you shoot out to random places, it needs power to do the entrances right?

[hard forum]

Game crashed again, so here's the crash note I sent for this one.

Now this is a tale, a fresh little scene,
About a Constructor crash while makin’ proteins.
The game was smooth sailin’, performance was tight,
Frames were rock steady, everything felt right.

No lag in the build, no stutter, no scare,
I clicked that Constructor to peek what was there.
But outta the blue, with no warning sign,
The game up and crashed—factory’s still mine.

So I’m droppin’ this rhyme, reportin’ with flair,
Inspector went boom, left me stuck in the air.
Coffee Stain crew, just lettin’ you know,
Constructor plus proteins made my session say “No.”

[limpid cairn]

you build another hypertube cannon

[quasi frigate]

and somehow power it if it is far? lol

[dense violet]

build power lines out there

[limpid cairn]

biomass generators

[hard forum]

Maybe carry a biofuel reactor and fuel on you?

[quasi frigate]

ah ok, not a bad idea, power lines far, or biofuel gens 🙂

[dense violet]

you would need a number of them

and they'd burn through all their fuel while you're gone

[limpid cairn]

you have to eventually build powerlines everywhere

so why not start early

[limpid cairn]

1 fuel for 1 ticket back

[dense violet]

you'd need multiple bio burners, an dthe time it takes to put 1 fuel in each? it'd be very annoying

[hard forum]

Might be worth the time saved though.

[dense violet]

just build power lines out while you explore

[quasi frigate]

true, I might try to do that, and then I can do hypertube cannons later when I feel I have power around
I wish the map would show my power lines around easily without a future radar tower (I'm still fairly early on)

[hard forum]

I wonder if you can just spam the build button while flying though the air to spam power towers as you fly out of a hypertube cannon?

Would be a stupid fast way of building power worldwide early if it's possible.

[limpid cairn]

its prob possible but you need an autoclicker for it

[quasi frigate]

I haven't done a hypertube cannon yet, because I felt I wouldn't have an easy way back lol

[hard forum]

You could always experiment with an alt save.

[quasi frigate]

true

[hard forum]

Just realized how Smart Splitters worked, and I love them already. Just built a biofuel factory in which I can throw anything in, and it will sort out everything, and throw back Solid Biofuel, and Misc stuff in different storage units.

It's simple, but so helpful.

[neon cloak]

it's hard to choose between recipes from hard drive

maybe i should think harder

[neon cloak]

im working towards unlocking them, didn't expect for things with "AI" in them to pop up in the midgame

[silk ocean]

or unlock them all

Problem solved xD

[neon cloak]

recipes?

[silk ocean]

Yea

[neon cloak]

if i get 100% of hard drives are there gonna be unused recipes or i will get them all?

[silk ocean]

Something like 8 spare

[dense violet]

all of them
you're never locked out

[hard forum]

I was highly disappointed when ADA didn't say anything witty when you unlocked the AI Limiter.

[dense violet]

there's basically no choice in this game that ever locks you out of anything

[neon cloak]

so peak

[boreal musk]

118 drives

110 alts
3 for MAM
5 leftover

[dense violet]

it's a very sandboxy game 🙂

[neon cloak]

i hated buildings roads in minecraft because of, you know, blocks
but here it sounds entertaining

closer to sandboxy than MC imo

[dense violet]

well, here you can rely on the natural roads. Really the benefit of trucks in that case.

if you're makign a highway you might as well jsut build rail.

[neon cloak]

ehhhh idk

vehicles seem janky

maybe with a good route

[dense violet]

like everything, they have a learning curve

[dense violet]

you have to plan factories with terrain in mind and how you put down the stations

a lot of people feel trains are easier because tracks are locked in and physical

[leaden turret]

belt all the things

[dense violet]

or belt all the things 🙂

[abstract heron]

slugs all types in game

[limpid cairn]

Is it worth transporting aluminum stuff with drones

[dense violet]

like most things in this game, depends on you

you can transport everything with drones if you want

[hard forum]

That's a "Yo Mama" joke waiting to happen..... XD

Jokes aside, I can't wait to reach drones.

[dense violet]

they could transport their mama if they modded her into the game

oh I lied, you can't transport dark matter residue or excited photonic matter with drones

[hard forum]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-kelso-that-70s-show-gif-26311276

[limpid cairn]

Why not

[dense violet]

you can't package it

[limpid cairn]

Oh

makes sense

[dense violet]

but on the plus side, you basically always want to use it where you produce it anyway

[limpid cairn]

Wonder how many points you’ll get from a packaged dark matter residue

[dense violet]

there's probably a point value for for just the residue, even though you can't sink it

you could estimate the change by comparing something like oil and packaged oil and see what it might be worth packaged

not that you can package or sink DMR

[hybrid nymph]

hey guys just improving my copper production, since I wasn't making enough

[neon cloak]

my copper production is non-existent except some portable miners and manual conveyer up

i need to work on it

[hybrid nymph]

I am only producing 300 per minute

now I will be producing 900 per minute after my upgrades to my production

[halcyon dawn]

are you making a mega factory?

[regal arch]

is there anything wrong with having a long pipe of liquid that branches off into separate lines of machines? in my experience this doesnt work and some machines will run out and not be filled properly, but now im not sure if it was because of another issue x.x

[hybrid nymph]

I want enough copper wire and copper sheets for my factory

[neon cloak]

i will never understand megafactory mindset

[halcyon dawn]

from my knowledge the demanded water obviously needs to be less than or equal to what a pipe can hold, and often filling the pipes full helps

[halcyon dawn]

so then why does your general copper production matter

[neon cloak]

BECAUSE IT'S 0

like zamn i need to work

[halcyon dawn]

oh i was talking to the other guy

[neon cloak]

oke

[hard forum]

I'm fairly confident that even the devs don't really know how water works.

[halcyon dawn]

ngl me neither

[neon cloak]

enough of the satisfactoring for today

[halcyon dawn]

lmao

[neon cloak]

imma fortnite

[halcyon dawn]

how did you get to zip lines and power towers but have no copper

[neon cloak]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MdZ8Xr8P_SF_FL7B6WDjCZGS-x9Cwt-x/view

[hybrid nymph]

iron wire?

[dense violet]

depends on the layout

[neon cloak]

sheer focking will

[halcyon dawn]

you’re something else

[dense violet]

if you want you could show some overhead shots of your pipes in #math-and-meta

[neon cloak]

i dont really interact with copper for some reason

maybe lucky alternative recipes

[halcyon dawn]

cable??

[dense violet]

they do, it's not hard. Just some basic ideas to know

[halcyon dawn]

you need ALOT of cable just for building

[neon cloak]

oh i just put storage near copper portable miners and then conveyer belt up the hill

and then manually switched all my smelters to copepr

still didnt run out of dem cables

[halcyon dawn]

huh

[hybrid nymph]

ahh there we go, 600 copper per minute

[neon cloak]

he is beginning to believe

[halcyon dawn]

what are you making

[hybrid nymph]

a train station that delivers copper 1 KM away because I don't want to run a 1KM conveyor belt

[neon cloak]

i like reading stuff like this but it's too much

[regal arch]

well my friend made a turbo fuel plant and it took me like an hour and a half to fix it. before i say anything else my other question is if you have a line of refineries making 600/m fuel and for some reason your last farthest refinery is like 300, the next is 150, and the others are all like 25, does it make sense for the refineries making larger amounts to get backed up and start idling because they make more faster? hope that makes sense

[halcyon dawn]

is it for a mega factory

[hard forum]

Okay, this is actually pretty helpful. Thanks!

[hybrid nymph]

Because I need more copper for my copper wire, cable, and copper sheets

yes I am making a megafactory, I'll show you it in #screenshots

[halcyon dawn]

i see

[dense violet]

it shouldn't back up because of that. Almost all sloshing comes from where you input the fluid , not hte outputs

it just works it's way backwards until your producers stutter

[regal arch]

thats what i thought.. but i was having some crazy issues trying to figure out the issue and somehow this one refinery making 80 while the rest made 40/60 was filling up in the machine and not going anywhere fast enough even tho i checked the math like 20 times. but oh well its working now

[hybrid nymph]

Take a look in #screenshots It looks messy but trust me, everything os organized and functions

[dense violet]

running pipes at 600 needs very clean layouts. 🙂 possible but you don't have much leeway for mistakes

[neon cloak]

chat, morally speaking, is it ok to always rely on blueprints made by other people?

or im losing smth in the experience

[dense violet]

it's a sand box. do what you want.
the main issue is you won't actually learn how to build yourself

but if that's not important to you? then do it

[neon cloak]

that's

[hybrid nymph]

ugh I HATE rocks!

I just blow them up

[regal arch]

yea ijust deleted everything and made all the refineries a closer number to fix it 😭

[dense violet]

you likely fixed it just by rebuilding the pipe in a different way 🙂

[dense violet]

pipe layouts are confusing until you have some basic understanding. If you get that then it's pretty simple

[blissful fable]

i need help on what one i should do i have 3 hard drives researched

1: copper alloy ingot/automated miner

2: fine concrete/bolted frame (one rescan remaining)

3: steeled frame/steamed copper sheet

no idea what i should go with

[dense violet]

pick what you might use next

they're all useful

you're never locked out of recipes so ... 🙂

[green fiber]

If none seem convincing rn, just don't pick anything at this time

[hybrid nymph]

okay copper train is done

[limpid cairn]

2
1 or rescan (id go with rescan)
2

that would be my option

[blissful fable]

rescanned the second and got steel pipe alternate recipe

[limpid cairn]

but,
copper alloy is kinda useless next to pure copper ingot
bolted frame sucks because of screws

[limpid cairn]

thats really good

[north wren]

Hi, I'm looking for someone to play satisfactory with, someone who speaks Polish

[limpid cairn]

#1201555265942724758

[dense violet]

how is it useless?
you can output an absolute shit ton of copper with iron, which is absolutely everywhere. And you don't need a million refineries

and you can increase your Iron Alloy by using a few drops of copper. All without turning the game into Refinery Simulator 2025

[limpid cairn]

i dont see a problem in refinery simulator 2025

[dense violet]

that's one of the reasons recipe tier lists are shit

everyone has different priorities
imo it's easier to just bring in more copper instead of using pure.

and 1 foundry outputs 110 ingots pm w/o clocking. So deliciously compact

[limpid cairn]

1 foundry makes 100p/m (from wiki)

[dense violet]

woops looked at the one below it. 100 pm! amazing output 😛

copper alloy basically converts Iron to Copper. So good

[limpid cairn]

1 refinery makes 37.5p/m and uses way less copper ore per min, if you scale the pure copper one to the same size as the foundry one (both basically use 50copper per min) you get more copper with the refinery

3 refineries make 112.5 copper per min while only using 45 copper ore and 30 water

[dense violet]

2 vs 2.5 output. I'll take the two every day when I can replace 3 refineries with 1 foundry

bring in more iron or copper if I absolutely have to, but there's so much on the map

[limpid cairn]

theres not

[dense violet]

There's way more iron on the map than you'll ever use

and TONS of copper. Your computer will catch on fire before you use it all

[limpid cairn]

actually?

i lowkey have ptsd from not having enough copper / iron on the map

[dense violet]

yes.
you couldn't realistically use all the resources to the last tiers BEFORE 1.0. when ther ewere less resources

[dense violet]

you'll never run out of iron. And you can pick copperless recipes very easily.

[lone blaze]

haven't played in a while, has hoverpack disconnecting machines from power when connecting to a power switch bug been fixed yet?

💔

[dense violet]

but it also doesn't impact your factories unless you're doing really weird things

[lone blaze]

the one reason i dont want to use power switches

[lone blaze]

oh really?

[dense violet]

unless you're doing sushi load balancing, or using less than reliable waste+fresh water systems that are merged, it won't have impact

and you're better off not mixing fresh and waste products

[lone blaze]

ah alright

[dense violet]

it's a very small portion of the players where that could impact your game 🙂

and there are ways around it even if you're doing that