satisfactory

[plush dawn]

exactly, game metrics are terrible, Xbox achievements for minecraft show that only 54% (or something similar) people ever opened their inevntory

[reef basin]

(and I play the game on epic anyway, so it's not like you could see if I play or not)

I'm not achievement hunter either. I don't care about achievements at all

[heavy pine]

The only thing I did that could be considered cheating on my first full run after 1.0 released was to set critters to Passive. Got all the achievements there, and on my new run I've enabled all recipes and turned on flight and god mode.

[slate python]

How did you make this

#screenshots message

And how do you know what numbers mean what

[hard ivy]

it's not afk if your production is fast enough

[slate python]

What

What is the 240 for

Oooooohh

Ok I thought that person had to put down 240 oil things

I have never used it

Well I have never used a modeler before

Is the moldler on steam something you have to download

[dense violet]

like any steam game

but it's more of a layout planner than a production planner. You have to do all the steps manually

[peak wasp]

My last world I put well over 300 down and overclocked them

[fluid sapphire]

oil things? refineries?

[heavy pine]

It doesn't pick the alt recipes for you, so you do have ot know which ones you're going to use.

[peak wasp]

This world I'm trying to keep everything even so I don't have to do multiple layers of unlevel platforms. Oil power plants

[fluid sapphire]

yall. for real? whats it even good for then xd

[hard ivy]

idk either

I use tools for everything

[quiet gust]

Doing it yourself

I hate using generators

[fluid sapphire]

same. like i put what i want as output, what i provide as input, select recipes i want to use. then it gives everything necessary to build it

[quiet gust]

I wanna make my factory the way I wanna

[peak wasp]

I need to use blueprints more but having to connect all the pipes and poles inbetween kinda makes it seem tedious still

[hard ivy]

this is an automation game. why would I want to do something manually? 🙃

[fluid sapphire]

i mean i am already doing the layout in game, why do i need a separate tool for that

[hard ivy]

tools doesn't prevent you from doing that

[dense violet]

you mean a fraction of what you would have to do w/o them? ^_-

[peak wasp]

I wanna make a factory that uses all the raw resources in the game and makes every item

[fluid sapphire]

if anything, it actually leaves every single implementation detail up to you

[peak wasp]

would it be better to train the items to a main facility or use drones

[dense violet]

depends on you , your preferences, and the terrain in between

[peak wasp]

I'm in the northwest desert by that uranium node

[fluid sapphire]

all the raw resources from the entire map?

[peak wasp]

with the 4 pure iron nodes together

[slate python]

Ok

[dense violet]

if you're going to have a dozen hubs sending stuff along? a train line that you can reuse the paths multiple times might be good

[peak wasp]

Not all but enough I'd need for the items I want to produce

[dense violet]

if youre only using a few distant nodes over terrible terrain? maybe drones

[fluid sapphire]

its much more effort to set up drones compared to trains for reasonable throughput, no?

[peak wasp]

idk either so

[fluid sapphire]

you would need a lot of drones, and that would mean a lot of fuel, i would think trains are much easier

haha i didnt realize cobalt was talking about me earlier easiest block

[quiet gust]

It also fits my play style much better (which is normally to do it by hand

[fluid sapphire]

i dont remember getting into a tiff with cobalt, thats funny

[uncut trail]

guys i js went into phasse4 and unlocked aluminum so how much and what aluminum items should i target to get in a minute?

like baseline avrg stuff

[hard ivy]

however many you need

like this is an impossible question to answer by anyone but you

[uncut trail]

yea i dont know how much i need either

[quiet gust]

Use a node for basic or small scale production for building imo then whatever else you need/want

Then you'll find out as you go

[reef dock]

I wanted to use every last bit of my 16 iron smelters which now produce:
Iron plate (3/min),
Iron rod (3/min),
Rein plate (10/min),
Rotor (10/min),
Modular frame (10/min)

And it took me 2 days to do it, now I can finally play the game xD

[boreal musk]

just focus on producing alclad sheet and casing for mk5 and blender, after that you can focus on rcu and other stuffs that needs aluminum

150-300/min baux as starter is plenty

[lofty lodge]

Heyo, uh had a small question, is it normal that I can walk through certain terrain features like rock cliffs and such? since consistently they do not have collision for me

[boreal musk]

some bug for sure, cuz i got that plenty of times this week

just save and load will fix it

[lofty lodge]

Seems to happen most often in far away regions

perhaps it's a loading thing yeah

thanks for the tip!

[faint reef]

do lizard doggos respawn?

[young copper]

did the remove Pure Aluminum Ingot?

[green fiber]

no

[young copper]

Since I can't get it

[green fiber]

bad luck

[young copper]

True

[dense violet]

server? multiplayer?

[lofty lodge]

nope, singelplayer

[dense violet]

that's pretty weird then. No mods?

[boreal musk]

it also happens in no modded save

it already happens in both rocky desert and grassy plain several times now for me

idk what causing it

[dense violet]

odd, even over all the years and using mods I've never just clipped through random cliffs

[fluid sapphire]

one of my trains is just sitting in a station for no reason?? its set to fully load, all the platforms appear to be full, but the train just sits here doing nothing?

[hard ivy]

hover with dismantle mode over all the wagons and see if they're full

[fluid sapphire]

one wasnt

i thought it was supposed to just fill up the cars, no matter the state of other cars

so far its been working fine, but now it was just infinitely docking?

[hard ivy]

it waits until all wagons are either empty or full

[fluid sapphire]

well yeah, thats what i want?

[hard ivy]

if one isn't full, it won't leave

[fluid sapphire]

of course, except it is supposed to fill that car

but it wasnt filling that car, thats the problem

[hard ivy]

does the platform have enough items to fill it?

[fluid sapphire]

completely full to the brim

with containers hooked up for even more

[hard ivy]

it is set to load, right?

[lofty lodge]

does foliage and trees respawn

[fluid sapphire]

i will go check again

i checked a few platforms,those were set to load, maybe i missed one

[visual cosmos]

Done with my 1.5k copper ingots /min
Well halfway done

End result is 3k/min

Which i dont need that much but I'll take it

[hard ivy]

also, while you're there, check if you can open that wagon that's still not fully loaded

[fluid sapphire]

well, i already docked it manually eariler, but no, i couldnt open that particular car

or the associated platform

they are all set to load, also

[hard ivy]

if you can't open it, it means it's docked

[fluid sapphire]

yes, if i tried to drive the train, it said "docking", but it wasnt actually doing anything, just sitting there

its supposed to be docked while loading, but no loading was happening

its especially weird, because this train had already done a few dozen trips successfully before this happened

[reef dock]

why is the mk.3 belt not 240? 270 is just weird

[visual cosmos]

What do i do with 1.5k copper ingots
Just copper powder?

[green fiber]

because belt speed growth is quadratic instead of binary

(roughly)

also because of ratios

[fluid sapphire]

you get 30 extra, why complain

[green fiber]

270 can handle multiples of 45, 240 belts cant

steel has multiples of 45 involved

[fluid sapphire]

270 belt can do 240 just as well as 240 could

[reef dock]

it's just curiosity my guy

[fluid sapphire]

well, i didnt mean complain literally

[white dawn]

Yeah, 270 can pop up a lot with steel production; it's nice having the extra headroom

[fluid sapphire]

is this somehow not how wait until fully loaded setting is supposed to work? i thought it was supposed to refill, even if it only needs to add 1 or 2 stacks to a single car of a total of 8

[visual cosmos]

Damn copper powder is expensive

[fluid sapphire]

1200 copper ingots to make a puny 200 powder

[visual cosmos]

With 3k ingots i get 500 powder/min

And to be fair I'll probably do 300-400 powder since I also want to make other copper parts

I can technically make 6k ingots in this location but 160 refineries is boring

[uncut trail]

guys i made my somewhat effective first aluminum farm making 240 a min:#screenshots message

is aluminum ingot useful on its own or should i js make aluminum sheet and casing?

[visual cosmos]

Nice
So long as you dont mix recycled and pumped water you good

[fluid sapphire]

steel?

[visual cosmos]

Ingot is for steel pipe and beams not much else

Alu ingot ?

[uncut trail]

oh i said steel mb i meant alu

[visual cosmos]

Alu ingot nah make it into casings
Sheets are for mk5 belts mostly

If this is your first alu factory make it half half

[uncut trail]

how much each should i make for 240 alu in min

okay 50/50 it is

ty

[fluid sapphire]

i use a ton of sheets to make heat sinks

[visual cosmos]

Late game you need more casing than sheets usually

[dire nexus]

where did you find that with the build limits?

[visual cosmos]

Early on when you first do alu half half is better

[heavy pine]

You'll eventually be able to use aluminum ingots for other stuff, but right off the bat just go for alclad sheets and casings.

[visual cosmos]

I mean theres already a limit for pc, it's just very high so most dont encounter it

[heavy pine]

Bauxite isn't as abundant as iron or copper, but there's enough of it to have more than one aluminum processing area.

[dire nexus]

There is a limit for pc? I watch ImKibitz and he builds so much that I never thought there was a limit for pc

[fluid sapphire]

i have heard this before, but i have yet to find out how this is univerally true? i looked through the recipes, and it can definitely go the other way?

[uncut trail]

my 1050 raw doggin this game fr

[fluid sapphire]

with some alts, you can get away with almost no casings at all

[shy mulch]

my first megafactory that's up and running is using 590 casing and 285 sheets, my new one that I'm building will need 1996 casing and 510 sheets

[fluid sapphire]

well, i use heat-fused frame, radio connection unit alts, i almost dont need casings at all

[fluid sapphire]

now the exact same problem is happening to a different train

car contains 3017 coal, platform is full, yet nothing is getting loaded

[hard ivy]

yeah, I have no clue tbh. never had that happen to me

[fluid sapphire]

this train also previously did its rounds just fine

[hard ivy]

but then agian, haven't done trains in 1.1 yet

[fluid sapphire]

super weird

[river oriole]

hi i back

[ivory condor]

same i have been playing other games, so haven't touched 1.1 much myself

[heavy pine]

I'm in the opposite side of that swing; finished a couple other games (Clair Obscur and Horizon Forbidden West) and have come back to Satisfactory since I couldn't decide what else to play.

[digital oak]

uncofirmed found it in a comment sectrion

[boreal musk]

the only thing that needs alu sheet is normal recipe of heat sink and super position oscillator, most of them use casing

[heavy pine]

Now we need a recipe that blesses water to make it holy water, and then applies that to alclad sheets to make holy sheet.

[fluid sapphire]

with the alts i mentioned, you dont need casings for anything though, outside of constructing things

like in production chains, dont need them at all

i made a post in #1038092680493801533 but fr this just seems like some kind of bug

[river oriole]

bru how am i supposed to get hard drives in bamboo forest with the radiaton things arounds

[fluid sapphire]

inhalers.. and speed

[river oriole]

im phase 3

[fluid sapphire]

and

[crystal void]

Hey y'all, what are your thoughts on my nuclear power plant plan? I'm gonna be making 1,800,000 mw and I need 55,000 copper ingots per minute...

[river oriole]

[crystal void]

You know imkibitz's power plant?

Child's play

[hard ivy]

then wait for the hazmat suit

[river oriole]

when

[hard ivy]

tier 7 or 8

[river oriole]

😕

[crystal void]

I think 7

I could be mistaken

[hard ivy]

but you can always outheal radiation damage unless you pick some uranium up

[river oriole]

i just got alot of bacon

gonna push through

[hard ivy]

use inhalers

[river oriole]

its that radiated hog

[heavy pine]

Yeah, there are plenty of other hard drives and such on the map. Just pin their locations and come back later.

[crystal void]

I never, in 520 hours (so far), really used the inhalers a lot

[river oriole]

alright i got the hard drive

[crystal void]

Also I think there's more hard drives than recipes, lemme check

[hard ivy]

like 5 more

[river oriole]

i went back for the items

[glad drum]

same - i did for my first playthrough then realized I could just die

[crystal void]

Yea 5 more

I have an unhealthy addiction to this game smh

[glad drum]

I couldn't stop thinking about routing water to my new coal generators last night while in bed

[crystal void]

I practically dreamt about copper

I have 12 pure nodes and 12 impure nodes to tap dude I'm actually deep fried

[shrewd palm]

130 turbofuel/min should be more than enough to fuel about 10 drones flying all over the map right?

[crystal void]

I barely use drones

[merry mountain]

I've got a quick question.. I've noticed that when I use a hover pack, it seems to sap power directly from machines I'm floating near, and when I'm looking in the machine, they go idle for no other reason than I'm using a hover pack. If I switch to the jetpack, they will run at 100% efficiency. The inputs are full and the outputs are clear but they still go to idle when I'm near them with the hover pack..

Is this known hover pack issue or by design? It's really frustrating to figure out why I'm not getting full output just to realize it's because of the hover pack. No issue when I've got the jetpack on.

[glad drum]

If they're going far enough... probably not.

[crystal void]

I've only used them once and it was to get packages nitrogen to my rocket fuel power plant

[shrewd palm]

normally i wouldn't but i need to get rubber and uranium and a couple other things somehow

[shrewd palm]

farthest one will be going a little more than halfway across the map i think

[dense violet]

should do yes

[crystal void]

I made a massive belt highway blueprint and just spammed that in the north, traveling east, and in that blueprint I have a train line that carries uranium

[dense violet]

known bug if you have multiple grids , eg split by switches. It doesn't impact anything but the weirdest systems though

[glad drum]

That might be OK then

[shrewd palm]

realistically it'll be more like 7-9 drones, im not sure what the throughput will be like for the pure uranium nodes

[crystal void]

I have 500 rocket fuel generators and I don't have anywhere near enough to get my nuclear plant online smh

[crystal void]

There are no pure uranium nodes

[dense violet]

1. that seems unlikely
2. use some power storage, they can output a lot

[shrewd palm]

i dont remember exactly how much i have but its enough for about 180-200 GW

[hard ivy]

yes, it a buggy interaction between the hoverpack and power switches

[shrewd palm]

booting up my nuclear plant is already gonna make the consumption go up to 113GW and i only have about half the machines placed

[shrewd palm]

normal*

[merry mountain]

I hope they put some focus on that, it's definitely not satisfactory. I can't believe a bug like this has gone unfixed

[crystal void]

Oh you have no idea. I have a blueprint for about 60 or sum batteries, and the fuel generators make a total of ~130 GW but modeler says I need ~400-700 gw

[dense violet]

modeler is stupid then

[hard ivy]

tf kinda nuke plant is that?

[shrewd palm]

yeah that seems like its way too much

[dense violet]

for the max uranium rods you only need 20gw

[crystal void]

Oh really?

[dense violet]

and once you have that going you'll have 600+ GW to run everything

[shrewd palm]

630 if you use every bit of uranium

[dense violet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=lNIMkysYY1hN0LU7f0Ms

[shrewd palm]

not sure 30GW matters on that scale tho lmao

[crystal void]

I'm using all uranium and more from bauxite

[dense violet]

eh I mean the bauxite conversion will increase it, but nowhere near 500 fuel gens

[crystal void]

Oh btw I'm going all the way to ficsonium

[dense violet]

you'll still be making more power before even plutonium kicks in

[crystal void]

I'm planning to make a showcase and put it on yt

[crystal void]

Yeah that's what I'm hoping

[hard ivy]

cheated sloops, huh?

[crystal void]

It'll all work out in the end

No, I'm using 104

[dense violet]

well if youre converting bauxite to uranium for it it'll be more than 600gw of uranium power

still not that much power needed to kick it off

[hard ivy]

brother there's barely enough SAM to use all 2100 uranium efficiently, nevermind if you make more

unless you're utterly wasting it by using inefficient recipes

[crystal void]

I have it worked out

I gotta go to school, but I'll download and send the modeler file if I remember lol

[willow glen]

there’s not enough SAM on the map to turn 2 uranium nodes fully into ficsonium, let alone all of it. How are you going about that?
I estimate it’s about 1GW needed per 45 uranium for plutonium, ficsonium increases that to like 1 GW per 10 uranium. But it does produce more than it consumes

[gusty bronze]

if you sing the pokemon theme song, anything is possible

[reef dock]

how long does it take for the rocks to disappear after you detonate them

[gusty bronze]

instant

[zenith pecan]

If it's blastable, the destroyed bit goes away right away.

[ripe elm]

are the 600 mk2 pipes fianlly fixed that you can use 600?

[gusty bronze]

they are going to be so fixed we are going to skip straight ot mk4 pipes

[zenith pecan]

Long runs with no dead ends (have loops etc) work fine at 600.

[ripe elm]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=sPwJskrUSOA5PldSSopU

im trying to do this then the 1800 in 3 mk2 pipes

[zenith pecan]

I have 1800 in 3 pipes at my three towers power plant, that place runs smoothly.

[ripe elm]

then i think i shoudl be fine

[zenith pecan]

My post history will show the power station, it's quite huge and makes a shed load of power 😁

[toxic spruce]

Did the devs say anything about cross progression or cross play?

[zenith pecan]

I'm not sure how well that would work, some saves would slag a console if cross loaded.

[toxic spruce]

And cross play?

[zenith pecan]

I have no clue, due to the limitations, I'd assume consoles could cross with one another, just I don't see how it would work with pc in the mix, one of my saves for example needs 48gb of ram just to load.

[toxic spruce]

Oh holy hell

[zenith pecan]

47gb sorry.

[shrewd palm]

wtf

[zenith pecan]

Kinda happens when entire biomes get eaten be individual production or power generation 🤣 , it's one reason my current save builds upwards, not outwards.

Though the tunnels under the map are back, just fewer and larger.

[untold elm]

I built a rotor factory and it has so much clipping because there wasn't enough space on the floor

from now on, one floor for one item.

Never combining again.

[peak wasp]

Hey, can we duplicate sumersloop and mercer sphere ?

[willow glen]

not in game, but you can via outside tools

[peak wasp]

Okay thanks !

[willow glen]

load up your save in SCIM and add as many as you want to your inventory

[hard ivy]

you can do it in game

unless they fixed it

but I haven't heard of this particular glitch being fixed yet

[visual cosmos]

There's a dupe glitch rn yeah
Not gonna give details though

Anyways I made train

I'm honestly very proud of my hexagon looking support

Only issue is I cant subway surfer

[cunning glade]

My brain doesn't work

[heavy pine]

I would build more vertically if I wasn't concerned about getting liquids where they need to be.

[cunning glade]

I have such a simple task ahead but my brain

It's prolly cuz I've never used trucks

[willow glen]

Liquids are almost always used in the first step of a process, or are exclusive to oil. So as long as you keep the first step of the process on the bottom floor, it’s not an issue.
It’s also not an issue if you just stick pumps on every vertical pipe. It can be an issue if you get creative with trying to lift many pipes using one pump tho

[heavy pine]

Yeah, that's more or less what I'm doing. If my process needs liquids, that part is near the ground and then any non-liquid stuff can go up to my roads either for transport elsewhere or further processing.

[willow glen]

I have a 6 story tower that has liquids going all the way up to floor 5 (aluminum for project parts). It’s a lot of pumps but it works flawlessly

[heavy pine]

When/if I decide to build up more fuel-powered generators, I might go with a water tower-type setup where I pump the fuel above all of them and let it flow down.

[hard ivy]

you can also use the newly discovered exploit to lift fluid without pumps, without valves, and without a water tower

[heavy pine]

The way I've got it set up right now is to pump it into a pipe that's a couple meters higher than a refinery's intake.

[willow glen]

wanna explain?

[heavy pine]

Yeah, but depending on an exploit means your build is likely to break when that exploit is patched out.

[visual cosmos]

Planning on making plastic and rubber on a larger scale than what i had
I think I underestimated how much 1350 crude oil is

[hard ivy]

#math-and-meta message

[hard ivy]

4050 plastic/rubber

[heavy pine]

Which is why speed runners will often work with an earlier version of a game. There's some glitch/bug/exploit they use as part of making the run go faster.

[willow glen]

yuck lol. Just makes me hate how this game does liquids even more

[visual cosmos]

With only crude oil/water?

Satisfactorytools is saying half of that

[hard ivy]

2025 of each, yeah

4050 total

[visual cosmos]

[midnight mulch]

how big of battery backup do you guys have?

[visual cosmos]

8k MW required and 189 refineries

[midnight mulch]

8k?

[visual cosmos]

None

[hard ivy]

0 MWh

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=APcg0qbb3sjPR32nR7vk

[midnight mulch]

now i feel i wasted time

[visual cosmos]

My total power production is x3 my max consumption though

[midnight mulch]

yeah i got 250k mwh but my factory is relativley small

[visual cosmos]

Yea same thing

Lot of refineries

[reef dock]

It was still there after like 20 min, when I relogged it was gone xD

[willow glen]

Where is the speedrunning boards? The biggest one I can find is for 1.0 package% NMG and it hasn’t seen activity since the games release

[midnight mulch]

how much power do u consume?

[heavy pine]

I watched a run last night from AGDQ 2024 (I think) for 2package% I think they called it. Lemme find the link...

[visual cosmos]

16k max rn

[heavy pine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbslNVzse28

[visual cosmos]

Actively around 6k since most of my storages are full

[midnight mulch]

ah

i activley consume 16k but max is 25

[willow glen]

I think Epiphane is actually the only active speedrunner in this game, he has a time on almost all the boards and for many of them he’s the only runner

[visual cosmos]

Like a factory that makes 1.8k iron ingots and 1k steel into a few heavy modular frame isnt on for example

[midnight mulch]

but like aint u worried if anything cloges up? power wise

[heavy pine]

I'm not really big into the speed running scene, but I do enjoy the GDQ marathons from time to time.

[visual cosmos]

When i get to around 40k max consumption (with 60k being produced atm) I'll double my power to 100k fairly easily

[midnight mulch]

fairs

[visual cosmos]

I check every now and then after making a factory to see how close I am to my cap

Rocket fuel power is goated

[willow glen]

I’m interested in speedrunning satisfactory but the way to get epiphane’s times doesn’t set one up to build/expand later, so it’s not really a good building block for a late game save to toy with later

[quaint vapor]

have people realised you can play in vr via remote desktop? yesterday i saw loads of people talking about it but didn't have time to say anything. i might be wrong about this though i'm just pretty sure I remember being in the game in vr - it was a horrible experience because it wasn't official support it was just like steams controller bindings i think

[midnight mulch]

yeah i have 6 nuclear plants

fully sharded and a couple fuel

[visual cosmos]

[strong wind]

so lemme guess this right

XBOX to PC = no crossplay
PS5 to PC = no crossplay
Xbox to xbox = crossplay
PS5 to PS5 = crossplay
XBOX to PS5 = crossplay

[visual cosmos]

Rocket fuel is exponentially easier especially the alt recipe

[rotund pivot]

i think theres a bug in real life like aint no way i have a gf and have 300+ hours in satisfactory

[visual cosmos]

Most likely yes

[heavy pine]

I like to put a spare power pole on a large factory to see how much juice it's gonna use before I connect it to the grid. If it looks like I'll be going over my production, I'll go add more power first.

Crossplay means going cross-platform, so XBox-Xbox isn't crossplay by definition.

[strong wind]

yeah cba to change the words the thought is there tho

[mortal ginkgo]

Man, I just saw that overclock production material needs and it really feels cheaty 😛

50 plates and 50 wires kek

[heavy pine]

Oh yeah, the tricks they use in that run are extremely broken. And probably have been patched out, which is why they run on an older version of the game.

[mortal ginkgo]

ya I thought it would be more "fresh" since its a video of 1 year ago but alas

[hollow kernel]

can a drone port support 1200/min feed demand

[mortal ginkgo]

not alone, you need like 3+ drones with really good fuel and fair amount of distance. but others can answer better

[heavy pine]

Probably closer to 18 months ago, since AGDQ is the event held in winter. I kind of wish YouTube would show an actual upload date instead if "5 years ago" or whatever.

[willow glen]

drone landing animation is 51 seconds. You’ll need multiple drones on this route but the short answer is yes.

[mortal ginkgo]

we shouldnt forget the startup animation too I think

[hard ivy]

depends on stack size

[hollow kernel]

multple drones means multiple stations too ?

[willow glen]

102 seconds then, I forget drone port size, but if it’s 50 stacks then that’s good for anything stack size 40 or higher (everything in the game)

[willow glen]

no you can have multiple drones going between the same two ports

[heavy pine]

I haven't tried using drones yet. It's a port-to-port journey though, right? Can't have like one port that sends drones to two or more other ports.

[mortal ginkgo]

each port can have 1 drone yes

[willow glen]

Drones are always A<->B, can’t make em do circles.

[hard ivy]

but you can have a drone at A and another drone at B, both going A<->B

[heavy pine]

I was thinking more like a A<->B and A<->C. So you'd need two ports set up at the source in order to send them to two destinations. A1<->B and A2<->C.

[glad drum]

You can do that, you'll just make B and C their home and they'll travel to A

[heavy pine]

Oh, ok. So it's more like B<->A and C<->A.

So a drone outpost could have Fuel Dropoff and Product Pickup. Fuel Dropoff would have a drone going to a central Fuel Pickup port, which could have several drones hovering over it, waitng for their turn to pick up fuel.

[mortal ginkgo]

they are not that clever and functional. you can use them to "drop water bottle", "bring back empty canister" but for fuel you will need a different port.

drones do not take off if they cant fully empty their cargo, they wait

[white dawn]

When a drone tries to make a delivery but can't fully unload its cargo, it'll sit there docked at the port waiting until it can get rid of all its stacks. If you're using a "Fuel Depot" type situation to fuel your remote drone outposts, the fuel-fetcher drones on your outposts will end up spending nearly all their time waiting at the outpost to finish their deliveries, so the Fuel Depot ports will mostly be empty, btw

The only time you'll have drones queueing up at the fuel depot is if you happen to have a bunch of remote drone sites finish their fuel deliveries all at the same time (but that's unlikely to last long)

[heavy pine]

Ok, I see. So situation is Fuel Distro port exists where I'm making and packaging fuel. I go out into the world and make an outpost with Bauxite Pickup and Fuel Dropoff drone ports. The drone going between Fuel Dropoff and Fuel Distro will wait unti its cargo is full or empty, depending on which port it's at.

[glad drum]

You can do that - just make sure to 1. Smart Splitter your drone output to sort out the fuel and 2. Smart Splitter OVERFLOW for your fuel so it doesn't back up your drone port.

[white dawn]

The only time drones will wait is when they can't finish their delivery, btw. There's no way to make them wait until their cargo slots are full

But yeah, I basically always use the "fuel depot" type arrangement, and every remote drone site has a dedicated fuel-fetching drone which then distributes the fuel to the other ports at the site

[heavy pine]

OK. So it'll wait at Fuel Dropoff until they're empty, but they'll only grab what's available at Fuel Distro, even if that's only one canister.

They won't hang out at Fuel Distro waiting for a full load, they'll just take what they can get and leave.

[white dawn]

I recommend having an ISC or two as a buffer in front of your Fuel Depot ports, so that when you spin up new drone sites it doesn't create a drag on the fuel supply. When you first spin up a new drone site, the fuel-fetcher will end up making about three fetches in a row (27 stacks), so having an extra buffer is nice

[heavy pine]

Oh yeah, I tend to have a big container on all of my production. Got a standard blueprint with a smart splitter that feeds everything into a storage container (withg an output to a dimension depot uploader) and overflow to an AWESOME Sink.

[white dawn]

For fuel in particular (on the delivery side) I wouldn't worry about smart-splitters and sinking, of course; it's fine for the fuel fetchers to spend the majority of their time idle

(overflow-to-sink on the fuel production side if you like, of course; I do usually do that just so that the factory remains running all the time, but that's mostly just 'cause I always do that anyway, regardless of factory type. :)

[heavy pine]

Yeah, I wouldn't put a sink on the delivery point. Maybe a second uploader for stuff I use a lot like concrete.

I've been chewing through concrete like crazy building up a road network, which I probably won't actually use beyong the truck routes I currently have.

My plan is to put rails above the roads, which I've already done in some places, and then start using trains.

Steam says I've got 868 hours in Satisfactory, but until 1.0 dropped I rarely got far beyond making plastic and rubber.

[zenith pecan]

At the voracious rate I burned concrete, even four uploaders were too slow.

[willow glen]

5 uploaders with speed upgraded to 120/min did the trick for me. Three wasn’t enough anymore

[prime jasper]

Can someone help me with my train signal problem? It says "it loops" but i don't see how. I posted a screen in #screenshots.

At the point where they are splitting?

[reef basin]

#screenshots is for sharing your builds, for getting help use #1038092680493801533

[prime jasper]

Well, technically i am sharing one of my builds. I am showing off my train station.🤓

[reef basin]

yeah but we can't write there and can't post images here

in #1038092680493801533 we can do both it one thread (and also the thread doesn't get mixed with other stuff)

[naive scroll]

when i get to coal do you guys recommend i still use biofuel or should i start scrapping it away

i mean, im in coal, just thinking of what to do with my old biofuel factory

[midnight mulch]

personally i keep my old biofuel as a backup if i go to my power limit

quite nice to have an extra 400 mwh backup if i need it

[main topaz]

You don't really need it anymore but you could keep it for the chainsaw or you could turn it into liquid biofuel for tour jetpack, it has a longer burn time.

[midnight mulch]

as they dont consume fuel when not being used

[naive scroll]

ah i see ok

[midnight mulch]

or well they consume fuel when they are needed automatically

[naive scroll]

then ill keep the backup and redo it

[midnight mulch]

yeah feel free to

[naive scroll]

i have no idea how the blueprint works btw

i did a nice layout id like to save but idk how that works

[royal falcon]

is console gonna be cross platform? I can't find anything only about it

[midnight mulch]

little difficult to explain atleast for me but u save with the main terminal

which is at the front

[naive scroll]

at the hub?

[midnight mulch]

no the bluprint plate

[vagrant oar]

it's very likely going to be cross console cross platform but not console pc crossplat

[midnight mulch]

the blue print has a build plate which inside you design a layout and save with the terminal infront of the blueprint thingy

[naive scroll]

where is the build plate?

oh right i have a blueprint tab

[supple dune]

How does one use signal and block path for trains, trying to set up a junction and the trains will just stop randomly even if there’s not a train in front of them

[violet needle]

o.O

holy shit

[violet needle]

path on entry, block at exit

[violet needle]

so i think i might make a 10/min of every t5 project part (5/min slooped, with the exception of nuclear pasta which i wont sloop)

and the resource reqs are INSANE

like 2k bauxite, 3k iron, 4.4k copper 😵

10k water :grief:

thats 17 pipes

[rustic kayak]

Can we pre order satisfactory on ps5?

[shrewd palm]

also if you're using signals you have to put them everywhere, or else a train won't enter a new block because there will be one on the other side of the map in the same block

recommended to set them up every 8 foundations or so, just make them big enough that you can fit a train in between block signals

[naive scroll]

if i put biomass fuel for leaves does it matter if i feed it wood at that point?

[glad drum]

yes cause wood is not leaves

leaves is leaves

you need to use a smart splitter, one side wood, one side leaves, each with their own constructer

[naive scroll]

yeah its what im doing

[leaden turret]

wood > paper [leaf is another word for a sheet of paper], therefore wood is leaf

[frosty grail]

I'm working on building a nuclear power plant, and holy cow it is so complex. lol

[zenith pecan]

My tracks? how so, I don't have a rail network up currently as I was midway through rebuilding tunnels before taking a much needed break.

[glad drum]

mmm I almost agree but paper is wood, wood isn't paper

wood could be paper but wood could also be chair

and paper isnt chair

[true mulch]

Sorry, I have spotty internet here and the message replied to the wrong person

[heavy pine]

Paper is chair if you're really good at origami

[zenith pecan]

It's all cool 🙂

[heavy pine]

I like to refer to a single instance as a "slice of paper"

[zenith pecan]

I have been out all day, just caught up on messages and was a bit uh, eh? 😛

[cursive totem]

was that infinitie conveyor lift height thing fixed in 1.1?

[heavy pine]

Still works fine. I'm thinking at this point it's been in the game for so long it might as well be intended.

[cursive totem]

i cant seem to get it working hm

[heavy pine]

I like to use painted beams to help make sure things are aligned correctly.

[frosty grail]

Are you sure your input/output directions are facing the right ways?

[small notch]

Just starting I alr know a little bit about the game but any tips

[silk ocean]

Rush the Dimensional Depot xD

[frosty grail]

For real

[shrewd palm]

nuclear plant has now gotten so big that if i turn too fast the game cant render everything immediately

[proud bough]

Don't turn your power slugs into shards until you get production output multiplier

[tacit ocean]

production output multiplier? i can get more than one shard from a blue slug?

[shrewd palm]

yes

you can use somersloops to double production output

very heavy on power tho

[violet needle]

yeah

i made a giga-plant on my save that makes like 300GW?

complete with waste recycling to plutonium and storing that

and it is big

[silk ocean]

Fully overclocked particle accelerator with sloops spikes at like 21 GW xD

[shrewd palm]

and quantum encoders i think go to 26

[silk ocean]

Yikes xD

[tacit ocean]

Thank you, I think I am still to early game to unlock that

[shrewd palm]

not much of a reason to sloop a quantum encoder past maybe space elevator parts or power shards imo

[violet needle]

yeah thats why i made it lol

[shrewd palm]

once im done with mine i might finally be able to play the game

[violet needle]

hm im wondering

[wicked nacelle]

300gw is only like 50 nuclear plants

[violet needle]

10/min of every t5 project part slooped, with 5/min pasta

should i go higher

[proud bough]

Yes it an alien tech upgrade

[shrewd palm]

thats fine i think

if i did that my pc would probably melt

[proud bough]

You put a sommersloop in a production machine and it doubles the output at the cost of a massive powerdraw incresa

[tacit ocean]

i need to find that SAM so i can unlock that tech tree

[violet needle]

rn combined im getting 360-380GW because my oil keeps oscillating

[tacit ocean]

and that perfect for my coal mega generation

[violet needle]

and using 60

[proud bough]

Just make sure you have the power for it

[wicked nacelle]

There are no small pickaxe nodes of Sam so you’ll have to run across a full ore node of it but they are often near other things you’ll naturally look for

[shrewd palm]

not sure where you're building but theres one in the grassy fields and another fairly close to it

fairly close as in on the other side of the biome

[violet needle]

there arent?

[shrewd palm]

no, only full nodes

[violet needle]

i see

[proud bough]

Oop mb its call production amplifier

That's the upgrades name

[wicked nacelle]

For other ore types you can find a little spot then use that to get it on your scanner for full nodes.

[tacit ocean]

That's the area i am in hopefully i can find one soonish

[shrewd palm]

look around in the caves

[proud bough]

If it's purple it's SAM

[shrewd palm]

but watch out for spiders

[proud bough]

They're usually in like caves

[wicked nacelle]

Or up high.

Really high

[violet needle]

i need
2k bauxite
250 cat (damn so little?)
4k coal
800 oil
3k iron
1.3k limestone
600 n2
380 quartz
920 sam
230 sulfur
10k water

damn

[proud bough]

The devs liked the idea of hiding them

[shrewd palm]

fisconium?

[willow glen]

The easiest SAM to find around there is gonna be next to your eastern quartz site

I think it’s lame there’s no way to search for it since all but like 2 nodes are very well hidden. But I don’t mind map-looking in SCIM, to me it’s just akin to memorizing the map

[violet needle]

no

the t5 parts

[shrewd palm]

ahh

[violet needle]

i am surprised how little cat and sulfur goes into it

tho you know its good when you need 300 refineries just for copper

[wicked nacelle]

Caterium is probably second to copper in least valuable raw materials in the game.

[zenith pecan]

Gathering all the worlds SAM was a slog when I did it, but it is all here now #screenshots message 🤣

[willow glen]

Well, I use about half the SAM on the map for my ficsonium plant that turns one impure uranium node fully into ficsonium, to give you an idea if you need it

[zenith pecan]

😁

[silk ocean]

Toast - what is going on with that plumbing XD

[proud bough]

#screenshots message
Here a screenshot of sam nodes near the grass feilds

[proud bough]

Even though it's literally gold

[heavy pine]

At some point I'm going to show a thousand hours in Satisfactory Modeler because I'll leave it running and forget about it.

[willow glen]

and gold is used in… not a lot of manufacturing. It’s pretty and has mild electrical conduction with good corrosion resistance, but it’s too soft to make anything sturdy out of.

Steel better

[violet needle]

i just realized

peoply cry over automating like 5 hmfs

i need 15

happy to report absolutely no screws will be used

[willow glen]

Well if it’s not iron it’s either limestone or oil

[plush dawn]

i need to check what im producing per minute

i 100% winged all the ratios

[violet needle]

satisfactory calculator has a stats page

[plush dawn]

i just steal items from other production lines and add more production if i see its going slow

[violet needle]

is it reliable? who knows

but gives rough estimate

[plush dawn]

doesnt that just check what the machines are set to though

[violet needle]

XD stored parts no1 - 426k uranium waste

[plush dawn]

that assumes the materials coming in are in enough amounts

[plush dawn]

where?

[willow glen]

this isn’t reliable if your machines are under-fed, which is likely gonna happen if you’re winging manufacturer ratios

[hard ivy]

good. if you're doing steelless, make sure you use steeled frame and not default modular frame

[violet needle]

maybe

again, gives a decent ballpark tho

[hard ivy]

it assumes all the machines placed in your world are running at 100% uptime

[plush dawn]

it says im making 14.063 per minute

screwless btw

[violet needle]

i need a touch stell to make mag field gens

[willow glen]

that’s only a few manufactures worth, but the supporting machinery behind each HMF manufacturer is quite a lot, whether you pick screws, limestone, or oil based

[fiery lotus]

Spend 20 seconds repeatedly trying to saw a tree
Why won't it cut
Look up
That's a power pole

[violet needle]

oh in general

yeah, biggest pain about hmfs are i think the standard frames? cos like youre making steel beans anyway so encasing them is not that much

but now you need to also make heavy plates

[hard ivy]

eh, if you use the right recipes, HMFs are easier than computers

[plush dawn]

mine is sulfur

[violet needle]

the gap is insane

no.2 is quickwire at 26.8k

[plush dawn]

i have 57,421 sulfur'

[willow glen]

Encased iron pipes my beloved, please use all my iron I have so much

[hard ivy]

like this isn't that bad
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=lgqLgRFEAagf7154sXRW

[violet needle]

waiit

why the fuck do i need bats

ew no throw that shi out

give me my normal supercomps

[hard ivy]

super-state comp is decent

[willow glen]

Batteries? Either drones or a supercomputer alt

it’s worth it if you use drones but if you don’t plan to use drones setting up batteries just for supercomputers is kinda a hassle

[tepid prism]

can power cables/wires autoconnect with each other in auto connect mode when placing blueprints or only conveyers and rails?

[violet needle]

i need like 6 of them

the batteries are not worth it

[plush dawn]

i really dont want to use batteries for drones but thinking about it i dont actually know the battery recipe

[violet needle]

question

why does it do recycled rubber and plastic

are they more efficient?

[hard ivy]

because it's by far the most efficient way of making plastic/rubber

[proud bough]

Dude you need to get your plutonium production online so you can clear that out

[violet needle]

i have

[proud bough]

Good

[plush dawn]

nobody wants to tell me

[violet needle]

tho all that is permament storage

[leaden turret]

do a google 😛

[wicked nacelle]

No and no

[wicked nacelle]

Look it up yourself

[slender quest]

You'll actually have to choose one of multiple available.

[silk rose]

use oil

[proud bough]

Or any fuel

Just know that they all effect the drones performance differently

[hard ivy]

rocket fuel and plutonium rods are probably the best choices

[proud bough]

I think turbo is fast travel time but burns quickly

Oh yeah rockets fastest right

[hard ivy]

not really

[hard ivy]

ionized and plutonium have the highest speed

[molten crag]

am going on a train ride tomorow someone got a good mobile game ?

[violet needle]

i need 17 full mk2 water pipes
still nothing compared to this shite #screenshots

i had to copy-paste the extractors in through the calculator because i went insane doing like 1/4th of them

and piping made me want to rip out my hair

[hard ivy]

the most extractors I built was 1045 iirc for my u6 nuke plant

[reef basin]

that's why you build the extractors directly in front of the nuclear plants 😉

so you don't have to route all the pipes

[proud bough]

Blueprint auto connect only goes so far

[wicked nacelle]

Drone travel speeds don’t matter much in real life. The docking time is long enough that it’s likely to either be fine or not even close to enough. You’d have to really be on the edge for it to matter. And if you are you should probably use a train instead.

[violet needle]

like i kinda realized it and wanted to do it

but i built the whole plant like 3m too low

[proud bough]

Or build the plants on top of the extractor

[violet needle]

but hey it at least looks cool of

[violet needle]

thats what i thought of

[glad drum]

dang i guess paper isnt chair... but chair isn't necessarily paper 😠

[wicked nacelle]

But plutonium and/or rocket fuel are likely to be plentiful at your power stations by the time you want to scale drones so the best options are the easiest too

[violet needle]

also is it just me or is the post-radiation sickness still a bug

[hard ivy]

if you sort your inventory with radioactive stuff in it, I think it stays

[violet needle]

if you pick up something radioactive and drop it the radiation doesnt go away

[wicked nacelle]

It would be neat if the space elevator inputs turned into awesome sinks after the story was over.

And maybe every billion points or whatever it lunched it to space just as a visual

[silk rose]

i want it to crash down every time i dismantle

[wicked nacelle]

Would it crash down or fly up to space?

[silk rose]

down down down

[remote field]

so i've got myself a bit of a tricky puzzle. wondering if anyone has suggestions for how to handle this best.

I've got a 7 story building of refineries meant for steamed copper sheets.

each floor has 22 refineries, but 2 on each floor are underclocked to 50% (so 21x refineries per floor, but I like symmetry.

each floor's refineries have 2 rows for inputs, and then merge in the middle for output.

I've got 4 belts of copper ingots load balanced coming in @ 825 / minute. (3300/m total)

I'm trying to figure out how to properly feed all the manifolds because the numbers aren't clean.
The factory wants 3300 items, but each floor needs 472.5 ingots. (each row wants 236.25 ingots)
#screenshots message

[wicked nacelle]

That’s a question for the math channel not here

Wayyyy too much for here

[glad drum]

manifold the manifolds and wait for it all to fill up is the lazy man's answer

[remote field]

yeah, you're probably right. i think the load balancer i have the 4 belt lines feeding into will take care of it eventually (like, as a line gets backed up, it'll start to feed the other lines)

[visual cosmos]

Alright 3.6k fuel/min done

[flint grail]

TIL supercomputers aren't efficiently held on the belt

[loud lantern]

did they patch out the infinite snap range with the conveyer floor holes?

[gritty sleet]

Ok we need a HUB upgrade like in the console release trailer

[cunning glade]

Is 10 versatile framework a min a okay amount for starting

[violet needle]

#math-and-meta wdyt?

[violet needle]

idk why youd automate it tbh?

[cunning glade]

Do I only need it for phase 2

I figured like smart plates I'd need more

[gritty sleet]

You need all project assembly items for all phases going forward. They get used for more-advanced parts later.

[violet needle]

you will
but unless you plan on automating everything to be a constant stream

[cunning glade]

I mean that's what I've been doing so far

Is automating every part so far

[violet needle]

i myself just always went 'let me automate all the parts except project assembly'

[cunning glade]

That's an interesting choice imo

[violet needle]

and semi-automate those whenever i wanted to progress the elevator

just your classic machine @ 250% slooped and crates for it

[cunning glade]

I automate everything and then overflow it too the sink when it's full

Idk what that means but sounds like spoilers

[violet needle]

the only parts im gonna consistently automate this save are the endgame, becuase they need so so SO much shit for them

[cunning glade]

Well this is my first playthrough so 🧍‍♂️

[silk ocean]

Some things I haven't bothered to automate, like Nuke Nobelisks and Power Shards, etc, I just chuck in the stuff from the Dimensional Depot when needed

[violet needle]

actually

i might need power shards

ill need 330 at the very least

[silk ocean]

alt recipe - synthetic power shards, no need for slugs xD

[violet needle]

💀

[silk ocean]

Oh I have something like 2500 of them xD

[violet needle]

no wait

i have 500 in my depot lol

770 total

[silk ocean]

Seems like plenty xD

[violet needle]

half of them will go just to copper refineries

:))

[silk ocean]

Seems™ xD

[violet needle]

you know 550 refineries seems like fun fun fun!

i dont even know where the other 300 came from

[silk ocean]

Yea I am basically at the point with this factory where I am slowly losing sanity and control of everything and just slooping / overclocking everything to try and fix problems xD

[proud bough]

Company mandated fun fun fun?

[feral geyser]

Contractually-mandated

[proud bough]

Opp mb

[silk ocean]

Ficsit mandated fun xD

[violet needle]

exactly

[proud bough]

Still love that ADA berates you for turning on the Ficsmas event

[peak wasp]

chat we got controllers

i wonder if its cross compatible with pc such as steam and epic games

[proud bough]

Yes I knew satisfactory was coming to console when 1.1 introduced controller support

[silk ocean]

Console?

I think someone said that crossplay between consoles is possible but not with PC but don't take my word on that xD

[proud bough]

Only with other consoles

[peak wasp]

dang

that would have been cool though

[proud bough]

Maybe in the future

[peak wasp]

Could you imagine how scary it would be to have satisfactory in vr though, you just look off the edge of your factory and fall off

[violet needle]

250 nukes - we can go have some fun :>

[proud bough]

Rookie numbers

[silk ocean]

Obliterate the swamp xD

[proud bough]

It's not enough unless I've filled a large container and my dimen depot with them

[peak wasp]

its contractually mandated fun fun fun

[silk ocean]

2500 nukes, raze the entire swamp and all those killer spiders to the ground XD

[proud bough]

Nah that what turbo rifle ammo is for

[silk ocean]

That's to finish the last survivors off XD

[violet needle]

fr

the cats are insane

[silk ocean]

arachnophobia mode is spiders in disguise xD

Going to admit that I recently switched the game to passive mode because I just got tired of killing when I was trying to build stuff XD

[proud bough]

Nah that's what cluster nobes are for

[feral geyser]

Not homing??

[wicked nacelle]

once you kill them once they don't come back if you've built basically anything there

[proud bough]

Nah cause turbo ammo go brrrrrrrrrrr

You use homing if you can't hit your shots

[silk ocean]

True, but it's a big world xD

[feral geyser]

True, but sometimes we do a lot of dodging, ducking, dipping, diving, and dodging.

The 5 Ds, if you will

And homing ammo helps a little bit

[wicked nacelle]

play however youw ant, obviously, but I've never found them a problem while building... that's all I'm saying

[nocturne ember]

I've been using homing to hit stuff around corners for epic trick shots to use as filler for my upcoming base tour video.

[proud bough]

Tbh I really only use homing and shatter on nests

[silk ocean]

Large parts of it are still unbuilt, there are railways and stuff all over the world but essentially not much else there, maybe a path junction, station, and a miner or something, like the red forest is mostly a total wilderness full of dangers xD

[proud bough]

Turbo and explosive are my go to for ammo

[silk ocean]

Yea I just need to get better at killing xD

[feral geyser]

I carry two rifles, one with turbo ammo and the other with homing, and a stack of each type of nobelisk for whatever scenario I might come across.

[silk ocean]

I mean I am not unfamiliar with FPS's and so forth, been playing them since the late 1980s in the computer labs at school, Wolfenstein, Quake, Unreal, etc.. I guess what I mean is I need to get better at scaling up weaponry xD

[feral geyser]

Pulse nobelisk are the ones I use least often

[silk ocean]

e.g. don't go on a hunting expedition with like basic ammo and a that little pea shooter, I forget what it is, like the nailgun xD

Basic idea is it's not so much a lack of skill but more a lack of preparation, equipment, etc XD

(although obviously I do lack skill in all areas, but that is a given xD)

I guess my preferred method of dealing with a hog is to call in a tactical airstrike from space, preferably nuclear like in The Creator movie, if you've seen that, just for 1 hog or some wasps XD

[dusky dagger]

@heavy juniper Trailer was published for Gamescon which is organized by IGN

[naive scroll]

lovely 1.500 mw 🤤

[silk ocean]

Coal era? xD

[naive scroll]

8/36 running coal factory

and then i just did a 20 massive biomass factory for the lols

coal era, soon rocket fuel is mine xD

[silk ocean]

Generally when you get to tier 3/4 / coal you kinda just obliterate the biomass xD

[naive scroll]

it was just fun to redo a biomass factory

thats not a spaghetti monster

i just need more coal.... from somewhere....

or convert the miners to mk2 finally

[silk ocean]

Resource scanner? xD

[naive scroll]

yeah but the next coal nodes are 1.5km away

[silk ocean]

Generally once you get a sustainable coal solution online you may as well delete all of the biomass stuff imo

[naive scroll]

i like it, its sitting in the bottom floor just existing

my first factory

[bronze dagger]

I’m new to this and I’m wondering if splitters are smart, e.g. if I have a splitter right after a storage container that goes to 3 different assemblers.. will it only direct the needed materials to each one or will it all mess up

[naive scroll]

it will direct material as long as the assembler can take said material

[feral geyser]

As long as their total consumption is less than the supply, it'll work

[bronze dagger]

Ah so it won’t send nails to a iron rod assembler for example

[naive scroll]

it will

[silk ocean]

Smart Splitters when you unlock them

[bronze dagger]

Ok so that’s a thing that exists

Noted

[naive scroll]

yeah down the liner

[feral geyser]

It's in the caterium research tree in the MAAM

[silk ocean]

Yea you can control the outputs and have an Overflow, etc

[austere lichen]

It's in the mam research station

[feral geyser]

Oh yeah it is only one A

[silk ocean]

There is a Merger equivalent as well, the Priority Merger, although I generally find I use that a lot less than Smart Splitters

[bronze dagger]

Yeah I was just hoping I could add onto my existing chain but those are too far away rn so some deconstructions gonna have to happen

[austere lichen]

I mainly use the smart splitter for overflow inside the process to fill buffers for easy access to some materials. And as a prep for later research

And for my automated trashcan. So it makes remains into dna capsules before it sinks

[silk ocean]

Fair, I've done plenty of that, if you're earlier tiers generally best to keep things separated etc, different belt lines and so forth, but you can ofc play however you think best

[vale grotto]

So y'all, how big of a challenge is 4/m of each of the final space elevator parts? I wanna set myself a high but achievable goal for this run

Without slooping, just raw

[silk ocean]

No right or wrong in this game, imo xD

[silk ocean]

I'm guessing 4/min of the final parts is achievable but don't take my word for it xD

It doesn't seem outlandish 😎

Only thing to bear in mind is you only need like 1000 or so of each

So after completing, you're basically sinking them for tickets

[azure ermine]

I'm discovering that it's one thing to go on an expedition and come back with 13 hard drives but then that represents 130 minutes in the MAM

[silk ocean]

I recently did a hard drive expedition (still need to go out again, that reminds me xD) but I had to process 43 drives 🤣

[proven grove]

Build another factory then go do another 😛

[silk ocean]

Took a few days XD

[main topaz]

I build a mam whenever one is done scanning and start another scan while looking for harddrives

[peak wasp]

good morning pioneers, just unlocked programmable splitters
I think this is a game changer, I can have node lines running into one main node line, and the same for production

[silk ocean]

Yea when you get the notification, while out on expedition, just plop a MAM, insert a new drive, then deconstruct it

Doesn't need power so you can plop one basically anywhere you are

Same applies for like Crafting Bench, Equipment Workshop etc, you can plop one wherever you are

(assuming you have the mats)

[azure ermine]

wait the HD is scanning even if you deconstruct what is scanning it?

[silk ocean]

Yep

Kinda view the MAM like a central computer system in the HAB, you can drop as many terminals as you like, if that makes sense

[heavy pine]

I made a blue print with MAM, crafting bench, and equipment workshop.

[silk ocean]

It's like just an access point to the system

i.e. you can drop down a MAM anywhere, insert a drive, start processing, then you can deconstruct that MAM, but it will still be running

[azure ermine]

good to know

[hazy sun]

Hi everyone, that's maybe a stupid question, but can i move HUB and space elevator by destroying them and placing in new place?)

[silk ocean]

Yea sure xD

[hard ivy]

have fun dealing with deadlocks and insufficient belt capacity 🙃

[azure ermine]

just know there can only be one of each

but you don't lose progress

and I THINK the little chest in the HUB keeps its contents

[silk ocean]

Welcome to my world of sushi-station pain XD

[hazy sun]

nice, i just thought, that i'll lose progress when destroying them)

TY

[cursive crane]

Nope, but anything in them goes in your inventory

or in a crate if you are full

[azure ermine]

ah ok

hadn't tried

[silk ocean]

You can go into settings if you like and select the option to retain inventory on death.. eeek controversial comment XD

[azure ermine]

my world has been expanding around where I first put down the HUB fresh out of the pod

[heavy pine]

If it's in the options and doesn't disable achievements, it's not cheating. 😄

[azure ermine]

I absolutely got keep on death turned on. That way respawn is a fast teleport back to the HUB

[silk ocean]

Yea I've moved my HAB and Space Elevator about 3 times so far xD

[hard ivy]

it's a singleplayer game. nothing is cheating unless you decide it is

[fluid sapphire]

creature hostility: retaliate - literally best setting

[boreal musk]

funny bcs retaliate doesnt work like retaliate at all for me

they didnt fight back when i hit them

[cursive crane]

Hot take, creature passive

[azure ermine]

no fight back should be passive

[silk ocean]

I have Passive yea xD

[azure ermine]

though they fight each other, seen hogs and spiders fight

[heavy pine]

I had passive on and switched to retaliate, but they still don't stand their ground and fight back.

[fluid sapphire]

im gonna go test that right now

[silk ocean]

But it makes me feel terrible if I have to kill one, like the hogs and their babies, when passive if not attacking me I try not to harm them xD

[azure ermine]

I used animal protein to get to coal power without having to denude the landscape of all trees and bushes

[heavy pine]

The anti-vegan

[naive scroll]

how do i get out from blueprint mode in the dismantle?

[azure ermine]

carnivore run

[hard ivy]

R

[wicked nacelle]

you mean bio? coal doesn't do anything to the landscape, bio does

[naive scroll]

thank you

[silk ocean]

I kinda wish you could plant trees and bushes, like in the early tiers where cutting down all the trees and grass for biomass, I'd like to replant all of that to make it look nice again xD

[azure ermine]

yeah that's what I meant, I used animal protein to make biomass for burners. it makes a TON

like 100 per protein

instead of grass and wood

[brazen jetty]

anyone else getting the bug where you can resource scan

[hard ivy]

yeah, 1 protein is 22.5 GJ when converted to solid biofuel
and that's without sloops

[azure ermine]

plants should respawn unless you build over them. Theyshould be able to, like the berries and nuts that replenish

[fluid sapphire]

oh yeah. its at least partially broken. hatchers fight back, hogs do not

[hard ivy]

hatchers spawn crabs even in passive

the crabs just don't attack

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, i figure. every time i walk by, they spawn

but they fight back when i hit the pod

[silk ocean]

Food plants do but I don't think trees and vegetation?

My areas aren't built on and still devoid of anything

[azure ermine]

yeah trees and plants don't grow back

I like the woodsy look of the world

[silk ocean]

Yea xD

[azure ermine]

but if they DID respawn, you wouldn't want a tree to spring back up through your foundations

shouldn't be hard, is spawn spot visible to skybox

or something

[feral geyser]

They should add vanilla greenhouses

[silk ocean]

Yea like stuff just doesn't respawn if close to a building or foundation I guess

[feral geyser]

That mod is super simple and fits perfectly in the game without ruining any balancing

[wicked nacelle]

powered building and like.. 4 other things stops baddy respawn

[fluid sapphire]

i have hogs and hatchers spawn right next to my foundations, it seems like if you dont build literally on top of them, they still spawn

[wicked nacelle]

yes, requires a powered building

[azure ermine]

still as the devs have said, they are mainly working on how people build factories and FICSIT doesn't care about plants

[rugged abyss]

like within x amount of meters from major construction dont spawn

[silk ocean]

Yea I think with creatures you have to actually build over their spawn point

[wicked nacelle]

it's not "major construction" -- you just need a powered building and a few other objects

[silk ocean]

Yea I guess, or maybe a better solution but something like that xD

[rugged abyss]

yea, that

[heavy pine]

Set up a sanctuary with no powered buildings that lets mobs respawn but keeps them contained.

[azure ermine]

if they only spawned where they COULD you could force all the monsters to spawn in one field and it would be a real monster movie in there

but they have set places they appear

[fluid sapphire]

eh.. i dont care enough about spawn points to have them dictate my building habits

[azure ermine]

there is some value to DNA capsules from protein, they are a cheaper progression and their own counter for tickets in the sink

[rugged abyss]

not yet anyway

[azure ermine]

but I got all the unlocks already and now tickets are just accumulating

[rugged abyss]

bragging rights

[wicked nacelle]

make a roundabout belt of golden nuts 🙂

[azure ermine]

hang them on the back of the truck?

[wicked nacelle]

that would be aweasome if you could put them on the back of the cybertruck

[heavy pine]

Set up a storage container full of golden nuts, surrounded by golden nuts, and with a big billboard that says "DEEZ NUTZ!"

[fluid sapphire]

my real endgame is having enough golden nuts to fill all hand slots

[azure ermine]

I haven't done vehicles or transport yet

just belts but I am just starting oil

belts and pipes need no waypoints

[naive scroll]

man how will i do motors and shit

i need literally everything to do everything

[hard ivy]

motors can be made with nothing but iron

[naive scroll]

oh real

true i need to hunt the alternates....

[reef dock]

for steel production should I underclock the foundry's to do 40/min instead of 45?

[slate python]

Why, wouldn’t that make you productive less in the long run

[cursive crane]

it depends

[minor rock]

i mean its not that expensive to hittrace from the tree to the ground

[prime jasper]

What are the best weapons to deal with the fart spiders? They can get quite annoying at times and I am not sure what is best to kill them.

[sinful carbon]

yes

[hard ivy]

... why?

[minor rock]

save power :5head

[sinful carbon]

no one ever wants to hear that

[naive scroll]

why is my mk2 miner mining only at 60 per min

[fluid sapphire]

impure node, and miner is not overclocked

[naive scroll]

oh god

ok gonna go find the clock shit im done with this

[cursive crane]

the power you are saving from a foundry for that small of an overclock is so minimal, i mean by all means if you dont need the extra 5 steel, then save the couple of watts
unless you are doing it to get the consumption changed, then thats a different story

[fluid sapphire]

one of the most important research branches

[heavy pine]

If there's one thing I always overclock, it's miners and other resource extractors. You can build more to get things done faster, but you can't put multiple miners on the same node.

[sinful carbon]

i was assuming he was just using a number of resources that is only divisable by 40 instead of 45

[reef dock]

mk2 miner mines 240/min the foundry's use 45/min, so you would need 5,33... foundry's. If I would under clock them to do 40/min then I would need 6

[sinful carbon]

like 120

[proven grove]

You can if they're portable 👀

[sinful carbon]

yea just do 40

youll need 6 foundries no matter what (if you dont overclock)

[fluid sapphire]

naaah
#screenshots message

[cursive crane]

assuming is the most antiproductive activity you can do
hence : it depends

[boreal musk]

rn only hatchers that work in retaliate, other mobs like hog, stinger and spitter doesnt

[fluid sapphire]

doesnt bother me too much really, i only attack them when they get in the way, and at this point they are all pushovers anyway

[minor rock]

wait ?? hatchers are suppose to retaliate ?
https://streamable.com/p1c5n0

[fluid sapphire]

jfc what is going on with your cursor

[minor rock]

im a gamer

[azure ermine]

I still have 7 more hard drives 🙂

[silk ocean]

Main problem is the last drives I have to find all need power xD

[hard ivy]

augmenter

[silk ocean]

As in what sense xD

[hard ivy]

just place one and it makes 550 MW

enough to open any drive

[silk ocean]

Thanks, didn't know that xD

[heavy pine]

I made a blueprint with a biomass burner pre-loaded with about 20 solid biofuel, drop a bunch of those and hook 'em up.

[azure ermine]

blueprints can put fuel in the machines it makes?

that's handy

[fluid sapphire]

shards too, and you can set recipes

[hard ivy]

you can put items into machines in BPs, and they'll be pasted together with the BP

[azure ermine]

nice

[peak wasp]

I figured starting small

had issues with smart splitters, but that is because of full containers

Guess I have to plan it out

[wicked nacelle]

programmable splitters are essentially worthless beyond smart splitters. really all that matters is "overflow" and smart splitters give you that

[limpid cairn]

theyre good for sushi belts

[fluid sapphire]

smart splitters can already do sushi belts

[peak wasp]

hmm

but tehy can do exact numbers per outlet, right?

[hard ivy]

no

[limpid cairn]

not good enough

[hard ivy]

I cannot think of a situation in which I'd choose to use a programmable splitter

[fluid sapphire]

1 specific item, and overflow, literally the only 2 things you need for a sushi belt

[wicked nacelle]

did you try one and see?

[boreal musk]

i used prio merger more than programmable splitter ironically

[wicked nacelle]

all they let you do is like.. "send two types left and two types right" which is.. worthless

[peak wasp]

I just did now, so I guess you can just do more than a smart splitter

[silk ocean]

Whole swamp creeps me out, especially at night XD

[limpid cairn]

okay look, you have 4 specific items on your belt (iron, rubber, plastic and copper) and you want rubber and plastic comming out from 1 side while copper and iron come out from the other two sides without building much

[wicked nacelle]

you can do more but what"more" you can do is essentially worthless. I have never once used a programmable splitter

[hard ivy]

when tf would I want that?

[wicked nacelle]

but when is that USEFUL?

no one is arguing that it can do more.

it's just that the "more" is worthless

[minor rock]

built more to build less later 5head

[limpid cairn]

i have absolutely no clue

but prob when youre trying to save space

[peak wasp]

I guess you could just use more smart splitters, but to avoid clogging, maybe looping back excess?

[wicked nacelle]

the only thing it does different is let you send multiple types the same direction.

[boreal musk]

you can loop back without programmable

[peak wasp]

like you could do a loop after every split, but would that affect belt transfer rates?

[peak wasp]

yeah I mean for both

[wicked nacelle]

if smart splitters didn't exist, programmable splitters would be INCREDIBLY useful

[fluid sapphire]

why does my mk2 pump think its headlift is 55m, if its literally doing 3-4 foundations worth of lifting

[peak wasp]

I guess it's fewer splitters needed?

also adding more later

[wicked nacelle]

maybe in some super rare cases if you tier programmable splitters multiple layers... but I odn't know when I'd ever want to do that

[noble stratus]

#screenshots message WOHOO

[peak wasp]

fun

[hard ivy]

programmables are only useful if you want to split a sushi belt into 2, each with different items

but I always just want to split off 1 item from a sushi belt, and a smart splitter does that

[silk ocean]

Yea what is even the point of a programmable xD

[peak wasp]

what if 2 here 2 there

[silk ocean]

They seem basically useless

[wicked nacelle]

but when would you WANT that?

[reef dock]

what is even the point of smart splitters when you have programmable xD

[peak wasp]

specific manufactured items that require 2 identical items? (i don't know)

[heavy pine]

I can think of a minor use case. Go out into the world exploring, dump everything into a storage container. That goes out to a programmable spliiter that sends... say alien meat to the left, slugs to the right, everything else down the center. Each of those then goes through more programmable splitters if they have more than three things to sort through. The center one eventually spits out anything that wasn't put into some production process and you can pick it back up.

[reef dock]

on a smart splitter if I have center output set to any and right output set to coal, would the belt lock up when the coal is overflowing?

[silk ocean]

I'd probably recommend a total rebuild tbh XD

[reef dock]

or would it just prioritize the coal until it overflows and then send it to the center output?

[noble stratus]

yes.

[hard ivy]

it'd send half the coal center and half right

[heavy pine]

It would send the excess through the "Any" exit. You'd want to set it to "Any undefined" to prevent that.

[noble stratus]

lemme show you my rebuild for power, though

[peak wasp]

I'm gonna use programmable splitters >_>

[silk ocean]

Generally after like tier 3/4 you rebuild and teardown the starter-fac xD

[reef dock]

so it would work in a manifold?

[fiery lotus]

Did some coal upgrades and now my max capacity is jumping around, is this normal for non-fully utilised coal power? All inputs are supplied

[boreal musk]

that means something is wrong if your power production isnt flat outside biomass

[hard ivy]

if the production/capacity keeps changing, then the inputs aren't all supplied

[fiery lotus]

I went down the line and checked all their supplies

I'm perplexed honestly

[silk ocean]

Tidy xD Plumbing looks a bit wonky but otherwise very nice xD

[fiery lotus]

I'm just turning it into an elevator feeder

[noble stratus]

ill clean it up in 8 hours after sleeping. but thats what my fuel gen looks like rn. they are clocked at 50% and the end ones 25%. It's layed out for 1800 oil/min but i still need to figure out how to balance the pipes : (. and the whole building around it

[little cobalt]

There is no voice channel here? ;-;

[noble stratus]

then im gonna build another for turning it into turbo

[noble stratus]

no : (. but in the german one : )

[little cobalt]

[silk ocean]

I guess like 600 per pipe as that's the limit, so you could divide it up on that basis

[fiery lotus]

Also dang Doragon that's some spaghet, my spaghetti doesn't even compare

[noble stratus]

it's temporary (exclamation mark)

[fiery lotus]

I wouldn't want to work with that even temporarily

[boreal musk]

temporary factory are the most permanent one

[noble stratus]

no. my eyes already hurt seeing all the clipping : (

i like perfection

[fiery lotus]

Taking the hypertube between my base and my coal plant is fun

[noble stratus]

but i wanted phase 3 now....

[fiery lotus]

I intentionally set it up like a rollercoaster

[noble stratus]

build it in rl. i wanna ride it : )

[limpid cairn]

what are the odds of not getting pure copper ingots in like 15 hard drives

[silk ocean]

Plumbing and water extractors look... interesting / wobbly XD

[fiery lotus]

Alright see you after 20 years of education, training, and certification

[peak wasp]

rocket league mentioned

[noble stratus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1282979085726912542.webp?size=56

[peak wasp]

fail

HAHAAH

[noble stratus]

: (

[peak wasp]

ohh u like space engine

[silk ocean]

It's tidy, much better than most stuff I can do xD

[boreal musk]

build elsewhere, let that one build up all the materials for building

and then clear them up as you will

[reef dock]

I have a pure iron node and two normal coal nodes, should I just turn all of that to steel and after that just see what I can automate with that?

[noble stratus]

ive lost the overwiew and hand fed some things xD

[silk ocean]

That's basically my situation, the original megafac basically just supplies all the materies and then rebuild elsewhere to a better standard xD

[fiery lotus]

Why not, steel is important, I turned my entire original energy farm into steel production

[noble stratus]

Phase 3 should suffice for now right? but i should unlock the hover thingy migingy

[boreal musk]

thats phase 4

[silk ocean]

Yea you're doing good, it's just a process xD

[fiery lotus]

I am genuinely impressed by the spaghet y'all get up to, I couldn't create such orchestrated chaos if I tried

[azure ermine]

I've been getting more and more alt recipes, I now can take extra iron ingots and use coal to make the excess into steel ingots

[silk ocean]

Oh almost through tier 6, nice

[azure ermine]

my whole iron processing needs to be ripped up and rejiggered

[fiery lotus]

I only got cast screws but they've been nice

Other than being a bit numerically awkward to handle

[peak wasp]

I do this every tier, currently doing it now and building a rail network

[azure ermine]

screws seem to be everyone's least favorite thing at least in the start

[boreal musk]

its basically a starter base, just making every build gun material for building

#screenshots message

[fiery lotus]

I didn't mind the screws but my screw building was a bit cramped to also be producing rods in it

[peak wasp]

im gonna try get most of the research done, too

[fiery lotus]

Anyways time to try out blueprints

[silk ocean]

I've almost completed an extensive junction upgrade process, to path signalling, like 25 junctions around the global network xD

[peak wasp]

oh around the map?