satisfactory

[green fiber]

sound like a fun edge case

[wicked nacelle]

yes, just move them as specified and they'll all work

[naive dagger]

XD

[neat hinge]

is there not an interior light?

[willow glen]

blueprints are probably the answer here. Since I’ve narrowed it down to a snapping issue, if you can place a signal in a blueprint and get that blueprint working in one intersection, it will always work.

[hard ivy]

if that signal was a block that was red because of another train, the train going down would've stopped at the top too

I'm assuming they take slopes into account in their braking calculations, and it determines the slope is too steep for it to stop on it, so it stops before it

but because it's a red path at the bottom, it won't turn green until the train passes the previous block. which is also at the bottom

it's very much an edge case, it took me several tries to make this happen

[naive dagger]

i get that but building a train station only to have the solution be to basically rebuild the entire thing cause my intersections dont work cause they're too close or too tight... is not really minor imo

[modest nest]

Awesome shop

[neat hinge]

i got all the lights and there isnt one that isnt giant

[wicked nacelle]

if you have things that close together you're going to run into problems anyhow. Trains like larger sections of rail. Blocks that are shorter than trains cause problems

[willow glen]

It’s extremely frustrating, I’ve dealt with it plenty myself. And yeah in a few cases for my shorter routes I just belted or piped it instead. Hopefully a fix comes soon

[wicked nacelle]

the distance you have to move a signal back is.. probably about a foundation's length? we're not talking a long ways

[topaz shale]

Alright, got my plan set up. I'll just use the default recipes. For now, I want to maximize the amount of aluminum I can get unless I get the sloppy aluminum recipe.

I did a reroll on a harddrive and got a choice between pure copper ingot and sloppy alumina. What a roll. got sloppy now, I guess.

[slate python]

I know but you need circuit boards

[naive dagger]

yeah but especially with the new way of placing rails, I take the smallest curve possible... so for my station there is no way for me to put the signal back since the curve is as tight as possible, thats what I mean

[wicked nacelle]

if you have two junctions within a train's length then you should likely treat them both as a single junction and not have signals between them

[neat hinge]

anyone know what "nightmode" does for the street light

[topaz shale]

You can find those at crash sites so you can get the somersloops a lot faster.

[wicked nacelle]

changes it when it gets dark I always assumed

[neat hinge]

ah ok

[willow glen]

I’ve observed it turning the lights off in daytime exactly once then it seemed to break lol.

[neat hinge]

makes sense

i couldnt figure that out since its night anyway

[modest nest]

Ah use signs, set them to neon and color to white and remove icon

[neat hinge]

ok

[fleet gale]

i just built a stupidly big factory just to make components for power production but only now i realized i cant power this

[hard ivy]

with enough power storage, you can :)

[fleet gale]

i am on a new playthrough, setting up coal power

i thought i might as well go big

but i dont have the rotors to make buildings to power the rotor factory

[onyx siren]

Oh, just place a few biomass burners for a miner and a water pump. Once you get one set of generators stable, they will power the rest of the system

[hard ivy]

ah, yeah, you can't charge power storage with biomass burners
and you probably can't make storage yet

so you do need more biomass gens

or turn it on in parts

[fleet gale]

nah, i got coal power via handcrafted rotors

i just need more

and thus more rotors

i probably should have settled for 1 assembler instead of 3, but this will certainly help when i will need to make motors in the future

[topaz shale]

Yeah a lot of the time, only having one machine for making building stuff is good early on. And if you need more, then you can build another machine.

[unkempt blade]

and another and another and... then you're hooked and building huge factories filled with factory carts and trains

[tame vortex]

200H in mi solo game, and i 'hv don't start the phase 4 ;,D

[unkempt blade]

Yeah but how many factory carts do you have? That's the only important measurement of progress

[dense cave]

is ther any arachnophobia mode 😭

im not arachnophobic but everytime when i see those stinger mutants it just gives me goosebumps

[unkempt blade]

did you look in the settings yet?

[dense cave]

didnt see anything related in video

oo

accessibility

i better not see any floating blobs

[unkempt blade]

it's way scarier than the spiders are

[dense cave]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1088677635304980500/1106077364158484560/IMG_0595.gif

right-

no gif perm

[fleet gale]

epic embed fail

[unkempt blade]

it's so monstrous...ly adorable!

[fleet gale]

and as expected, my 12 rotor/m abomination consumes more power than everything i built on this save up to this point

[wary perch]

What if you could have a floating blob of whipped cream on hot chocolate in game in your ficsit brand coffee cup perhaps changed via a vending machine

[dense cave]

i'd buy that even tho its got the same price as golden nut

[grim trellis]

Im intrigued to see where they take this after all the updates over the last couple years.

[distant pilot]

Idk if CDawg and Ironmouse were the last people I expected to play, let alone beat Satisfactory, but they were definitely low on my list

[unkempt blade]

probably got addicted to factory carts, happens to everyone

[latent prawn]

btw, i did a test a while back on how much i could push between two truck stops with a gang of factory carts, the transfer rate capped out around 450 item/min before they started bumping into one another

[unkempt blade]

interesting, here's my own science-ing with a large stack size item #screenshots message

[latent prawn]

yeah, i think i was using 100-stack ore for the test

[unkempt blade]

I haven't tried a speed test since like pre-1.0 though so I'd be interested how it looked with mk6 belts now

the actual delivery speed I saw seemed higher than the mk5 would be able to handle for stuff with bigger stacks

[latent prawn]

what i do know very well is that if you're moving concrete, a tractor has enough capacity to keep both the station outputs saturated, so it doesn't surprise me that you're getting that sort of rate with a factory cart

[royal arrow]

Did they change how the blueprint designer handles things "outside" the box in 1.1? I have blueprints from before that have a double wall outlet but now I can't place them on a new blueprint/the previous working one

[latent prawn]

yeah, annoyingly

[slate python]

Oh ok

[royal arrow]

gdi
time to go see if someone has modded that out

[ivory condor]

Well we already have megaprinters👀

There is definitely much larger modded designers

[modest nest]

I accidentally made 60 iron plates a minute at tier one and I have way too many and they're already going into the sink

I thought 60 was reasonable, I needed maybe 20

[royal arrow]

I'm almost at the tier 9 when I installed my first blueprint mod so just stuck with it
Just added a 3 more since I didn't realize there were so many others lol

[ivory condor]

Yeah there is depending what you need

Im definitely a megaprinter enjoyer, such a nice bp mod

[royal arrow]

Added that one too
it's going to be soooo nice
Was planning on doing railway blueprints soon anyway

[ivory condor]

Railways bps weren't really viable pre 1.1, because no auto connects

[modest nest]

I wanna zoop bps

[ivory condor]

So you couldn't even tile the bps for them either, same with loading and unloading stations, bps were really bad with that to

[royal arrow]

Oh true
My original plan was to do everything except the final bit. Mainly so I could have my hypertube underneath it already done
Autoconnect is going to make that so much nicer!

[ivory condor]

I can zoop bps, power of mods

[royal arrow]

How is that blueprint zoop mod? I glanced at it but didn't look too closly

[modest nest]

I should get that mod

[royal arrow]

I mainly do big blueprints though so that might be a part of it

[ivory condor]

Works nicely for me

[royal arrow]

Autoconnect doens't work tho, right?

[ivory condor]

Wait it doesn't hmm, did I not test that

Well if it doesnt i have ways to make it works anyways

[modest nest]

Is it compatible with infinite zoop

[hot plaza]

Is the issue with mk6 belts not keeping up with 1200 still here?

[mortal ginkgo]

It never was?

I mean,that would be a huge deal...

[hot plaza]

Well the last machines in my manifold sometimes stop working for a sec cuz they dont get input, feeding from a 250 oc tier3 miner

[mortal ginkgo]

you sure there is no lower lvl belt that is stuck somewhere?

like literally inside the splitter etc

[shy mulch]

When was that? I've been playing this since 1.0 was released and I've never heard of that bug.

[mortal ginkgo]

I am sure it is a manifold splitter that is put later on the belting issue

so there is a tiny belt that is lower version somewhere

[hot plaza]

The issue is not that obvius its like it works fine for 10 mins and then the efficiency drops to 97 or whatever

[shy mulch]

Seems most likely

Are you prefilling your manifold?

[hot plaza]

No but its been running for the past 2 decades

Its filled

[mortal ginkgo]

could it be that your hoverpack causing a stall in the entire power when it connects? Its a well known bug

like for a second entire grid stops, so you will see a drop in percentage

and that percentage takes REALLY take time to go back being 100%

[hot plaza]

Playing on creative with no power

[hot plaza]

Yes but it has to starve to go below 100

[mortal ginkgo]

At this point I am out of options. This game got bugs but never heard someone having mk6 speed problems.

Again, slower belt segment inside splitter might be the cause. Try rebuilding if you didnt do so before

[lofty phoenix]

Hey guys

[hot plaza]

Yeah idk its like the miner or the belt runs 99.9999 speed

Its barely noticable but it fucks my shit up

[lofty phoenix]

The more I build the APA the more boost i get,is that correct?

[mortal ginkgo]

I think same issue happens with mk2 pipes too. I dunno how this game's code work (all I know is its wack) but it is probably a ultra tiny game tick skip from either belt or the machine

[split pewter]

research smart splitters

[modest nest]

Yeah I have it auto fed in already

It's just that I only have mk2 belts right now and it's taking up half of my overflow capacity haha

[keen oriole]

Soo, what are the best free blueprint packs?

[mortal ginkgo]

accidental? when decorating etc it can really ask for a lot of iron plates, 60 is hardly alot

[ivory condor]

Actually it was, at least in the past anyways, they technically did deliver under 1200 and css had to fix them

[spare furnace]

What are some tips for building big? Like I see all these mega factories and mega power plants and I look at my “massive plants” and they seem small… is there a trick to it or something… I love satisfying massive builds but personally don’t know how to go about doing it

[keen oriole]

Link blueprints

[spare furnace]

Wdym

[wicked nacelle]

Just put down the manufacturers to make 25 HMF/m and then try to feed them. You’ll end up with a large factory

[spare furnace]

Mkay

[wicked nacelle]

The numbers just demand the machine counts.

[spare furnace]

I’m running thin on power so my next thing will be oil processing and fuel burning

And I want to maximize it

[coarse epoch]

do any mods exist that allow manual editing of vehicle paths? Maybe just nudging nodes, adding new nodes, something like that?

[spare furnace]

Last factory I built was big but only produced a faction of what it could

[spare furnace]

I bet there is lowkey sounds like a great mod

[coarse epoch]

Micromanage used to be able to do it back in the day, but

I kinda get why they did it, ie a great to way guarantee a path is valid is to make the player actually navigate it first, but I feel like a better approach overall would have been more like rails

[tardy seal]

did you know that there is special voice lines for going too high

[spare furnace]

There’s voice lines for everything and I love it

[tardy seal]

yep

[spare furnace]

I love getting insulted after being rammed off a cliff

[river oriole]

i just died because of that

[tardy seal]

and its a really fun thing to have placed ladders up for 15 miutes and get told off by ADA

[ivory condor]

Micromanage I remember that mod, looks like its not being developed anymore and is dead

[wicked nacelle]

The base fuel recipes and a handful of fuel burners will get you a long way when you first unlock them. It’s not worth “maximizing” until you have the fuel alts and turbo and rocket fuel.

[topaz shale]

I love hypertubes so damn much

Probably my favorite way to move around the map between factories.

[wicked nacelle]

They’re fun but just too slow to build to go anywhere far away. Cannons just make every other form of pioneer transport seem silly.

[topaz shale]

Oh for sure. With boosters, you can definitely make the travel time go way down. I just enjoy the ability to go in one and tab out while I plan the next factory. I think for something wiht 2 km or so, just a regular hypertube with a booster is nice but anything further, cannon.

I still have yet to build a cannon.

[unkempt blade]

I built a hypertube booster into my skyroad BP for my 1.0 save and it was insanely fast to get across the map but I did wind up with around a thousand HT entrances in that save 😆

[topaz shale]

But it sure is fun lol

[molten lintel]

help my game crashes when my train tries to navigate through an intersection but doesnt switch tracks!!!!

anyone have a fix?

[heavy pine]

Finally got around to setting up some truck deliveries to bring fuel, silica, and quartz crystals to my HUB area.

[peak wasp]

good morning, pioneers

[cosmic laurel]

in satisffactory modeler i set nitro rocket fuel to 3300/min, but when i drag the inputs off rather than setting them to what i need for 3300 it uses default values and shrinks the fuel down to 90/min. how do i get it to do the opposite so i dont have to manually change values to get back to 3300?

[gilded goblet]

My MAM is almost done

Sulfer is my least complete one

[vague dune]

What input are you having trouble with?

[cosmic laurel]

it was all of them, itll say i need 1100 coal, when i drag off and select coal itll create a coal node but set it to 60/min

[vague dune]

The dark grey bar at the bottom is the limit you can set. For example, I drag coal out from the 3300 rocket fuel, Itll show "60" with another "60" underneath. The bottom-most number is the limit you set. (Like if you have a Pure Coal node with a mk.2 miner you can set to 240). Just set the number to whatever you need or delete it.

[vague dune]

If you want it to be a permanent change and not have to worry every time you want to place a miner/extractor, just go to the 3 lines in the top right > Settings > Machine Defaults, and change them there

[unique zephyr]

Is there a way to have more than 1 custom color swatch saved at a time?

[steady glade]

with mods ye

[unique zephyr]

Sadge, ty

[vague dune]

@cosmic laurel did that help?

[molten lintel]

nobody?

[wide hedge]

Is something wrong with my game? It's off centered #screenshots message

[vague dune]

Nothing seems off centereed

[wide hedge]

it is, the input is slightly off the the right side, i remember it used to be dead on where the guide line is

[fluid sapphire]

thats more reliable when you place stuff on foundations

[wide hedge]

ok! i guess im too OCD for just starting a new save haha

[burnt ferry]

1100 coal required a fully overclocked mk3 miner on a pure node... it works for me by configuring the mk1 miner at lowest speed that is put by default for you as well as for me, accordingly=

wenn i put a single coal generator, demanding 15 coal/min instead, i get a miner set to 15/min as expected.. so it doesnt seem to automatically apply necesesary augmentations for certain numbers to be valid

[onyx siren]

i remember there use to be a way to zoop in 2 dimentions (for building walls and floors) is that still a thing? if so, how do i do it?

[fluid sapphire]

thats definitely a mod

[lunar jasper]

can i load 2 780 belts in one wagon or should i use two?

[hard ivy]

due to the loading pause, you can never transfer 2 full belts per wagon

[lunar jasper]

then why does it have two inputs

[hard ivy]

1 per wagon is almost always guaranteed to be possible, and you could usually do 1.5 or more, but never 2

[hard ivy]

for a buffer

also, if it only had one, you couldn't transfer one full belt either

you have to use both inputs to transfer a full belt

[lunar jasper]

really?

why

[hard ivy]

because the platform stops accepting items for 27 seconds every time a wagon is loaded or unloaded

so every time the train comes by, you lose 27 seconds of transfer rate

the only way to get a full belt in/out of a single input/output is to never have a train dock there

[lunar jasper]

ah okay that makes sense

but maybe you need two trains?

on the same line if its long distance right?

[hard ivy]

2 trains means the pause happens twice as often. on long routes, the extra wagons carried by the second train give you more throughput than the extra pause loses, but on short routes, adding extra trains can actually decrease throughput

well, if the trains are on default settings

if the trains are set to only depart when empty/full, the pause happens once every full wagon transported

[lunar jasper]

ah that makes sense

thank you

is one container buffer enough then?

[hard ivy]

the buffer isn't always necessary. you just need to be able to handle 27 seconds without items. which with 2 mk6 belts is less than 1080 items

so if you're transporting something that stacks to 500, even the internal machine buffers can be enough

I always add a container to be safe
one is always enough, sometimes more than enough

[lunar jasper]

so if you are transporting, the amount you can use is lower then what you are making because of these 28 seconds?

or you mean that its not cause of the buffers in machine

[hard ivy]

items don't just disappear during those 27 seconds. they just stop moving

if your train can handle all you're producing, then you'll get the same amout out the other end

[willow glen]

It depends on the machine recipe, sometimes a stack is minute worth or more of a buffer, sometimes it’s less

[kindred seal]

Hi guys, can someone please tell me how to set up the train signals for this intersection please?

damn, cant send images

[hard ivy]

if trains' paths cross, path in, block out
if they don't, block in, block out

[willow glen]

#1038092680493801533 to show what you’re working with

[lunar jasper]

thanks

[kindred seal]

yeah, i don't understand what that means. I have an X intersection, both tracks have a small common section

[shut belfry]

anyone keen on a vc to help a noob put down a flat slab? 😅

[steady glade]

ctrl

[willow glen]

Path in: as the train approaches the intersection, it should see a Path signal on the way in.
Block out: as the train exits the intersection, it should encounter a block signal on the way out.

[shut belfry]

Hahaha, valid response. It's moreso dealing with unruly terrain, and logistics as there are complex parts involved. I have the footprint on Sat. Tools, but im struggling to impliment it in my save

[steady glade]

press r twice to go to vertical mode, stack uip until 1 or 2 foundations higher than the highest terrain

[shut belfry]

there might also be a world arch involved too 😬

[steady glade]

oof

is it the arches north of the grass fields near the beach?

[shut belfry]

Even better, Northern Forest, around those pure iron nodes

[willow glen]

I need to try to actually build over there.

I did a titan forest complex last save, it was super neat building around the unremovable giant trees. They’re now load bearing trees

My rocket fuel factory might have some leaves as its roof, I couldn’t figure out if I had already built roof there or not in all that mess. Looks great on the inside tho

[ivory condor]

I have wanted to blow up the titan trees so much, but alas😔

[visual cosmos]

Hmm
What do I do with 6k quickwire/min

[willow glen]

That’s a lot of AI limiters

[azure linden]

or cat. pc's

lol

[willow glen]

ya there’s a few alts that can use it, AI Limiters are the only item that requires quickwire tho

[azure linden]

#screenshots message

Alu finally done

[hard ivy]

HSCs too

[hardy island]

looks awesome once i learn the game im hoping to build stuff like that lol

[azure linden]

you'll get there eventually, learning is key in this game

👍

[jaunty jewel]

Hi

[hardy island]

fs im currently going around farming hard drives, idk if i should but i am lol

[jaunty jewel]

what is happening here

wait hold on is there not an argument

this is the satisfactory discord yes?

[azure linden]

yes, it's worth it

[hardy island]

okay cool

[azure linden]

wait a sec

[willow glen]

funnily enough, you can eliminate either HSCs or AI limiters entirely, but not both. HSCs are only used by 1/3 supercomputer recipes, and AI limiters used by 1/2 ECR recipes.

[azure linden]

#screenshots message

[willow glen]

But the other ECR recipe needs HSCs

[jaunty jewel]

now can we eliminate crystal oscillators 😃

[runic bolt]

There's no difference in left and right side when it comes to rail signals, as long as the direction is the same?

it's just visuals?

[azure linden]

i got like 40 drives in one go

[runic bolt]

Thanks :)

[jaunty jewel]

does this include scanning them

o i didnt look at ss

[azure linden]

nope, i scanned then over a span of 4 days lol

most of the time i forgor that i have them xD

[willow glen]

nope sorry, live with the yellow CD stands

[wicked nacelle]

there is a front and back of a signal and that matters. But R lets you flip which side is front and back for the signal being on a side

a track is only usable by trains entering a block where there is a signal facing them as they enter it

[runic bolt]

yuh

[azure linden]

@hardy island he're some more things i built/did
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[wicked nacelle]

please don't do that

[runic bolt]

I would call myself quite good with the trains in Factorio, but these I really havent been able to wrap my head around
mostly the block sectioning (see #design-and-architecture)

[azure linden]

Also i printed the golden nut lol #fan-art message

[cosmic laurel]

ive been running into this bug a couple times now, not sure whats causing it i think it has to do with something when im dealing with blueprints, but pressing numbers doesnt build up the hotslot item, all other buttons work, only solution ive found is save and go to main menu. anyone know what this is?

[hardy island]

awesome stuff

ive got 2 hours on this save so yeah im not close to any kind of stuff like that

im still working on the space elevator lol

[azure linden]

as i said, you'll get there eventually

[runic bolt]

oh yeah when you press 3 for wire (or smt) and the build tool doesnt select it?
I've had it, but idk what triggers it

[azure linden]

just be aware that this game WILL get rid of your free time lol

[cosmic laurel]

ye, its for any number, but i can still manually open build menu and select the item

[azure linden]

i've had this issue once, changing the hotbar to a different one and back fixed it

[runic bolt]

When I've gotten it I couldnt even do that

only response I got from numbers were when I was using them to search / do math

[visual cosmos]

Do i do crystal oscillator or the alt recipe

[exotic pilot]

What’s up chat

[runic bolt]

That feeling when you realise where 1/3 of all the somersloops on the map went

[unkempt blade]

it's in my automated solid biofuel rig that I use to feed the 800 biomass burners, right?

[royal arrow]

I swear I was able to do this previously. Can you no longer place a blueprint and nudge it down then resave it? (In this case I made a blueprint then removed a part and want to recreate it without it being 30m in the air)

[shy mulch]

Snapping point should be automatically the lowest point of the blueprint

[viral thunder]

.

[neon kraken]

i need help with loading up satisfactory + and when i make a new save the game crash on me and idk and i download it all right and ik u can play it bc my friend plays it just fine

[hardy island]

how do i invite someone to my game?

[unkempt blade]

1. is your hard drive full or something like that
2. if you make a new game and try to save it does that one crash?

[hardy island]

i have it set to steam type

[neon kraken]

2 - then i make a new save on the rip with a new name it just crash when i load it

[neon kraken]

while u are in game there is a ID u give to your friend to join u

[shut belfry]

They can join your game though their steam friends list, provided the server is online

[unkempt blade]

If you're on steam I'd check the game files' integrity (right click in the library, go to installed files tab) and see if it still happens after

and if it that doesn't work you're beyond my help, maybe see if someone posted similar issues to https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[neon kraken]

ok doing the verifying files now

[hardy island]

thxs

[neon kraken]

np u got it working now?

[hardy island]

yea i got it

[rustic otter]

i apparently need 1198.5 screws for a damn 3.75 a minute hmf factory, i have a belt capacity of 480

[wise junco]

split 'em up over various belt lines

[rustic otter]

thats what im doing, but steel screws are an absolute savior i will tell yall that

[ivory condor]

I would generally remove screws via alts

[rustic otter]

heavy encased frame doesnt take as much screws but makes such an awkward amount

im using flexbile frames

[ivory condor]

What we need is compressed screws that are easier on the belts

[rustic otter]

we do

[ivory condor]

Time for compressed screws mk2 then

[rustic otter]

i dont get the next belt until aluminum and i still have to unlock get the project parts for the space elevator

[ivory condor]

When even mk6 belts aren't enough for screws

Time for mk7 belts

[rustic otter]

what material is gonna be used for that?

plutonium waste?

[ivory condor]

Trigons and time crystals

No really thats what you need and time crystals come from diamonds and diamonds default recipes take insane amount of coal

Only 600min coal to make 30min diamonds

[vague dune]

What does .5 do in a manufacterer? Im making some radio control units in a manu and I have 3/4 somersloops in it crafting 3.5 radios and it spits out four. Putting another one also spits out 4 but at a faster rate??

[wary perch]

Wouldn’t that be cool to have sloshing around in your coffee cup with its blue hue perhaps changed via a vending machine

[elder apex]

machines cannot output a partial unit of something, so if the slooped result is not a whole number then game will output +1 every so many cycles to make up for the fractional pieces

[ivory condor]

Not as cool as having nuclear pasta infused coffee thats for sure

[vague dune]

Makes sense. I guess I just caught all the times where it did lol

[unkempt birch]

how should i prepare for base rebuilding?

just got the space elevator and my base cant fit assemblers

[main topaz]

Build a new base elsewhere and use your old base to build parts you need.

[lunar jasper]

just spend wayyy too long on 1800 plastic and 1800 rubber

[wicked nacelle]

Hope you’re using recycled right?

[tropic juniper]

recycling is a scam. resist recycling propaganda. reduce and reuse. recycle only as a last resort

[storm talon]

Just posted a pic of my mid-game factory

Gonna set up another floor just for iron rods. Might fuck around and set up another floor after that for copper, and then another for quickwire.

[wicked nacelle]

While is something you should make with the machines that use it

Just belt cat ingots

[storm talon]

Is it work? Yes. Is it fun? Debatable. Is it satisfactory? A

[wicked nacelle]

*wuickwire

[storm talon]

Cat ingots are belted.

[wicked nacelle]

Stupid phone. Quickwire.

[storm talon]

The machines that use it are on that floating floor next to the constructors that will make it quickwire.

[wicked nacelle]

Also copper stretches caterium very nicely with wuickwire alt

[storm talon]

Thank yoooou

The one thing that's bothering me right now is that belt highways aren't uniform because I need different belt highways for different things.

But I made a belt highway using concrete pillars so I might just use that for anything that needs to be belted in from far off distances.

It also doubles as a power inlet.

[tropic juniper]

the pillars are nice

[storm talon]

Power lines*

Yeah they are.

[limpid cairn]

Guys I fucked up my water pipes for my aluminium factory

Do I just use the by product water for my copper ingots?

[lunar jasper]

yesyes, first took likie 25 harddrives to get it. then messed up a couple of times, by not realising that the rubber or plastic you put back into the system, cannot be made by the last machines in the manifold XD

[tropic juniper]

using water biproduct for stuff like wet concrete or pure ingots is a best choice

[limpid cairn]

How do priority junctions work?

Like for fluids

[tropic juniper]

something about head levels

i've never got one working reliably

[limpid cairn]

😔

[hollow hemlock]

Just had a hard drive scanning result in biocoal and...charcoal, harsh

[boreal musk]

gratz, now you will never encounter these 2 recipes again

[hollow hemlock]

Except I rescanned it because it's early enough I want something useful for my limited attempts at exploring 😁

[limpid cairn]

Had the same, thankfully rerolls exist

But Tbf biocoal can actually be useful

[tropic juniper]

yeah if you hold the recipes and never chose one, they won't appear in the future scans. so that's useful sometimes

[hollow hemlock]

Yeah I know but I was really hoping for cast screws early on

[dusk wadi]

where is the channel that i can send pics

if there is one of course

[limpid cairn]

#screenshots #off-topic-media

[dusk wadi]

thanks

[slate python]

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#satisfactory

[wise junco]

Yes

[terse flower]

Is satisfactory calculator the best website to plan a factory design?

[dense violet]

I would argue satisfactorytools.com has a much better UI, and it doesn't have a stroke when you have byproducts or loops

[terse flower]

Thank you

[dense violet]

it takes a little bit of practice but is very worth it.

just remember to turn off SAM ore or the conversion recipes, as sam is low valued and it'll try to incorperate that into the production line

[terse flower]

how do i do that?

[dense violet]

in the input tab where all the resources are set, or hte recipe section

you can also turn off the converter building in the building section

many ways to do it.

[terse flower]

I dont have the converter so i turned it off

[rigid mist]

finally got all the materials for the nuclear power plant

[cosmic laurel]

#screenshots message if i put a path, or block signal, on the part of the track where my cross hair is i get a signal loops into itself error...why?

[terse flower]

@dense violet Sorry for the ping but alternative recipes are not working for me ;-;

[dense violet]

you have to check them

[terse flower]

i did-

[dense violet]

in the alternative recipe section

[terse flower]

ye

[dense violet]

pinged you in other channel

[cosmic laurel]

trains are really starting to annoy me ;-; why cant i flip block signal to the other side

[sick dragon]

What do you mean exactly?

[cosmic laurel]

like my my rail road is set up going in a direction but when i try to put a block signal on itll only go on in the wrong direction

[sick dragon]

Depends on where you are pointing at the joint should determine the direction. If i point it on the other side of the joint(in otherwords when im looking at it im on the other side) it usually directs it to me. If i drag it to my side of the joint it points it forward

[cosmic laurel]

ye i tried that, for life of my couldnt get it to change

[topaz shale]

Man getting the boxite near the western dune forest void was tricky but I got it.

[cosmic laurel]

also ive given up on this intersection xd just all block signals

[sick dragon]

When you said it wasn't letting you was it physically not letting you or was it just giving you looping errors and what not?

[wicked nacelle]

Or use a better tool that doesn’t do that

[lime ermine]

That's what I did my first playthrough, works but path is better after you learn to understand them (300 hours in and I'm just beginning lol)

[wicked nacelle]

for junctions that could potentially support more than one train at a time -- path signals in, block signals out - that's all you need to know. They're actually incredibly simple once you just follow that one rule.

[peak wasp]

Is there a mod to have. 24 hour real time clock?

[wicked nacelle]

never heard of one but never heard anyone ask for one before either

[limpid cairn]

It’s probably not hard to implement tbh

could just ask a modder ig

[wicked nacelle]

it'd be weird since the game is day 2/3 of the time, right?

well, I mean if you wanted 12h day 12h night

[peak wasp]

Weird? I just like real time. Like wow was, Arma etc

Perpetual real time

[limpid cairn]

its weird to implement + why would you want that

having different day and night cycles from irl makes the game feel more surreal

And it being surreal is the only point people play games

[keen oriole]

that's just Canada in the summer.

Id like a mod that matches my local time specifically.

[wicked nacelle]

I'm just about in canada. I know about long summer days

well, I'm near the populated latitude of canada

not the silly parts 🙂

[keen oriole]

it's still long days. also things weigh 0.1% more here than in the southern states.

[gilded goblet]

what gives +3 inv slots? i have 75 and was told 78 is max

[peak wasp]

Different from IRL? That is what I am after a 24 hour day night cycle like IRL.

[topaz shale]

I now have aluminum going and sinking whatever I don't use.

Hell yeah.

[gilded goblet]

do that with everything

smart splitter overflow into awesome sink

[peak wasp]

good idea, I also want to make a high end part as fast as possible and sink that

[earnest ingot]

i made a slug coaster

[peak wasp]

a rollercoaster that slugs ride on?

[earnest ingot]

yes

[peak wasp]

sounds cool af

[earnest ingot]

go to screenshots

[boreal musk]

yes, its called "skyui"

theres a setting that let you sync irl time to ingame

[peak wasp]

awesome, script isn't long, either, failing that

#include "Subsystem/ModSubsystem.h"
#include "FGTimeOfDaySubsystem.h"
#include "Misc/DateTime.h"

void AMyModActor::BeginPlay() {
    Super::BeginPlay();
    AFGTimeOfDaySubsystem* TimeSubsystem = AFGTimeOfDaySubsystem::Get(GetWorld());
    if (TimeSubsystem) {
        TimeSubsystem->SetTimeMultiplier(0.0416667f); // Slow to 1:1
        FDateTime Now = FDateTime::Now(); // Local time
        int Hour = Now.GetHour();
        int Minute = Now.GetMinute();
        TimeSubsystem->SetTimeOfDay(Hour, Minute); // Sync to real time
    }
}```

[earnest ingot]

i wish programable splitters could be math based...

is there a mod

that lets me calculate how many screws PM im making

one tiny part of my factory is producing 4K

[hasty peak]

then the logistic side of calibrating splitters and overclocking for effeciency would just be skipped lmao

[hasty peak]

theres the satisfactory calculator site

shows the entire tree of what is needed to make an item

[topaz shale]

I love getting sidetracked to fix some fluid problems within the oil power area. Actually the only game where doing chores is fun

[cosmic laurel]

me giving up on intersections was because of the path loop errors. i think i might know why it did that but i ddint wanna bother rebuilding

[sick dragon]

ive had intersections be wonky with that lately. ive had to repalce the track for it to recognize properly sometimes

[gritty sleet]

Apparently even being near a tree makes this light not cast any light (green for testing)
#screenshots message

[earnest oak]

this game actually getting more and more fun by the minute i might be addicted

[blissful fable]

i did a programmer move and put a rubber duck infront of me... it helped... WHY DID IT HELP!!!

[exotic pilot]

Chat I’m doing satisfactory for the hero’s journey in English

[peak wasp]

you guys are insanely good at this game, holy moly

[blissful fable]

give it time to click then itll be easier that was literally me yesterday

[shy mulch]

rubber ducking always helps, part of my job involves giving presentations on very technical things, and I always do a trial run to my rubber duck and see if it has any questions

[shy mulch]

I get those errors all the time, I'm sure it's a bug but is easily resolved. I just replace each section of track in the intersection 1 at a time, then replace each signal one at a time, and that fixes it in 100% of my experience. Your mileage may vary

[tropic juniper]

i bet your good at things too. just transfer all those skills into your satisfactory save and you'll be sailing

[storm talon]

I wonder how I'm going to get my entire floorfull of iron rods up, considering the resources are going to becoming from the exact opposite end of the map.

[tropic juniper]

train full of rods

[storm talon]

Don't have trains yet.

[tropic juniper]

drones

[storm talon]

Or drones, silly.

[tropic juniper]

i guess you're left with one option. belts

process of elimination

[storm talon]

Yep lol.

It's just a matter of where to put them.

[tropic juniper]

sky belts

[storm talon]

Already on it.

I have two big obstacles to clear before I can start working on a factory with just assemblers. I need to get my copperworks up and running and I need to complete my steelworks factory.

Again, that's just gonna take time.

[tropic juniper]

sky copperworks

[last jackal]

#screenshots message @lost bramble I'll rather call this the worst choice you never have to make. Since both of these are here, as long as you keep this unselected, you will never see either of these in your choices in the future. It's rather great that it's like this.

[lost bramble]

Agreed lmao

[empty frigate]

is there a better way to produce mass amounts of base resources like ingots other than a bunch of oil refinerys for the pure recipes

[steady glade]

copper alloy is technically better

but by an amount so marginal in comparison that there's almost no reason to use it except if you cant be bothered to pipe water all the way

otherwise pure ingot is the best recipe to make the most of all resources

[empty frigate]

im building on a giant platform on the water so thats not an issue

pure appeals to me more so i dont have to pipe multiple reasources

[steady glade]

then ye making a tower of refinery groups is the best way to go about it

[shy mulch]

what's wrong with automated miner? very simple to set up 1 assembler and feed into a dimensional depot, never have to think about stock of portable miners ever again

[astral knoll]

Never got one of those from my hard drives so I had to check and WOW, I'm doing alloy's right now and the difference of switching to pure is crazy

[steady glade]

there's not much of a point i automating it, you'd fill up a storage and have more than you'll ever need, or just take a break and craft a few dozen every so often

[astral knoll]

Afk at the crafting table once, make enough to fill up depot, don't have to worry about making more for another 400 hours

[steady glade]

if you're tier 5-6, you should take a break from base building and explore a lot, get as many hard drives as you can, make sure you have more hard drives than recipes left to get

[astral knoll]

Literally where I'm at lol, just got back from my mercer sphere hunting to max out my depot

[steady glade]

itll take around 70 to get there, 1 speed, 2 stacks, 2 speed, 1 stack

that's' just about the most convenient order to get upgrades in

[astral knoll]

Don't remember which order I did, definitely was prioritizing stack after the speed was decent though. Think I maxed stack and had the last two speeds to get.

[steady glade]

doesnt matter now that its maxed out, do it however you want

[feral geyser]

Sorry to do this right after joining but

Devs

[steady glade]

they dont often answer here if its a bug

[feral geyser]

I have an issue with the ammo sorting

[astral knoll]

Bro called it

[feral geyser]

Image in screenshots since I can't put it here

What is that disgusting sort there? Why?

Please fix it, yuck, excellent game besides that

[steady glade]

sounds like alphabetical

[feral geyser]

Gross, it should be categorized

[steady glade]

and that's a suggestion, no chance they answer that

[feral geyser]

Ammo, then nobelisk, then rebar, then alpha within that

[steady glade]

there's a website for those

[steady glade]

then you could do that with almost all types of items

[feral geyser]

Sure why not

If it makes sense

[steady glade]

because its an unneeded annoyance, whats the criterial for sorting? alphabetical again, rarity?

[feral geyser]

I argue it wouldn't make sense for most other items

[steady glade]

ingots

[feral geyser]

Wouldn't make sense

[unkempt blade]

literally unplayable! except for the factory cart skate parks of course

[steady glade]

why not?

[astral knoll]

Ngl, I felt like that about the scanner not having mercer spheres next to somersloops, the heal items not being near each other, etc.

[steady glade]

its a bunch of types of similar items

[feral geyser]

It makes sense for equipment and equipment-related items.

[steady glade]

theres 2 wire types, a load of plate types too

[feral geyser]

Those should be sorted to the top, then sorted by category, then alphabetically.

[last jackal]

Nothing is particularly wrong with it. I personally just don't bother using it since I don't mind carrying a few, or just collecting resources on the spot to make a few miners.

But if anything, I rather have this choice never done so that I can get my steel related recipes faster.

[steady glade]

what you want is a change to the sorting algo, with a carve-out for your own logic

[feral geyser]

Equipment sorting to the top isn't even controversial, they already do that (for most pieces, not all)

They just need to make it consistent for all equipments, and then re-sort the ammo/nobelisk/rebar thing

Since they already give certain categories priority over alpha-sort, give me a logical reason why this wouldn't work/be consistent

[unkempt blade]

tbh the only reason I ever use sort is to collapse multiple stacks that are less than full

[steady glade]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[astral knoll]

Realistically most games with a sort button have another button/menu/setting that allows you to choose what you want to sort by, be it catagory, alphabetical, amount, etc.

So I see the qualm

[feral geyser]

Why?

I'm here asking

[unkempt blade]

and the devs don't respond here but they might to tickets, you're arguing with people who can't help you

[steady glade]

refer to my first answer

the Coffeestainers you'll find here are known as community managers

[feral geyser]

I was just kidding about the devs, I just wanted to show other players lol

[steady glade]

some devs may come around but for the most part they dont pay much attention to people talking here, otherwise they'd be swamped with pings all day

[astral knoll]

Pretend I'm a dev and spam DM me about any and all issues so I don't feel lonely

[steady glade]

here, someone thought similar to you https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6719465addb9d97e07206ea0

[feral geyser]

Glad to know that CDO runs in the community at least

[oblique aspen]

i never really minded about ammo and things because you dont access them through the inventory, but the gun/detonator and the ammo picker

[feral geyser]

Yeah, but just seeing them in there like that is gross.

I do carry a stack of each nobelisk type, and two rifles for turbo and homing

[astral knoll]

Hold up, you're really out here carrying around gas nobelisks?

[steady glade]

arent you?

[astral knoll]

Lol no

[feral geyser]

Two rifles so I don't have to switch between ammo types while i'm fighting.

[feral geyser]

Super handy for Hatcher clusters

[last jackal]

I kinda just... pick turbo for rifles. Basic&Pulse for nobs. Stun&Basic for Rivet... and that's it.

[steady glade]

its a neat deterrent againt spitters

[steady glade]

||boombox||

[unkempt blade]

huh, maybe I'm the weird one for only using a basher and basic nobelisks

[feral geyser]

I only recently started carrying it around, cuz I love the Sanctum soundtrack

[astral knoll]

I just felt like the gas one was the absolute worst and very niche, by the time it does anything I could have killed whatever in 5 different ways

[steady glade]

oh yea thats why i said deterrent, i'll generally use it to get a hard drive and dip

[feral geyser]

Thats why it's good for hatchers, drop it on them, the wasps die immediately, then you can do cleanup

[last jackal]

Stun Ammo + Basher is so fun and amazing against everything that isn't the radio hog & Crab nests.

[astral knoll]

Fair enough

[unkempt blade]

bash stuff -> hork berries -> occasionally throw nobelisks at spawners

[astral knoll]

I love that the stun duration is just long enough for me to grab that mercer sphere, etc and bail

[feral geyser]

I go out with ionized fuel, nobs, and two rifles, and I bully wildlife.

[astral knoll]

Just spam nuke nobelisks honestly 🤷‍♂️

[feral geyser]

I could, I have a factory for em

[shy mulch]

this is what I do, nuke everything and don't worry about it

all this carrying a bunch of different types of ammo, multiple guns etc., just unnecessary complication

[peak wasp]

haha I'm ok. I kind of know what I'm doing now, and know how to keep improving, it's just a time issue atm
love the game
love seeing everyone's creations, inspirational

[dense cave]

about this arachnophobia mode

cognition filter hits hard

[terse flower]

For the dimensional depot, is there a way to filter the items other than pin and search? like alphabetical or smth

[ivory condor]

If your fine with having a phobia of cats go for it

[dense cave]

im allergic to them

[ivory condor]

[vivid orchid]

Can I manually fly the drone?

[reef basin]

no

[vivid orchid]

:(

[valid lark]

Hi! One question about nuclear waste. Can I load a truck with it and throw it outside of the map?

Or a train

[leaden turret]

🏃‍♀️

[steady glade]

techically you can

the train/truck will still exist at the bottom of the map though, so dont complain if you abuse this feature and get some spikes

[reef basin]

yes, but actually no

the truck won't despawn and will continue to both eat your FPS due to physics being calculated and radiate the world due to waste still being there

[limpid cairn]

Just craft the waste into plutonium rods and sink them

[silk ocean]

This ^ xD

[reef basin]

or burn and do ficsonium
or store any of the wastes

[limpid cairn]

I haven’t reached ficsonium yet so idk how to make it

I only heard it’s super complicated

[silk ocean]

Uranium --> craft into Plutonium --> sink it xD

[reef basin]

well it's a cost for sink/waste-less uranium

and tbh storing waste is completely fine for majority of people

[limpid cairn]

But at some point you don’t have enough space…

[reef basin]

that's hardly the problem.
the more earlier problem is "radiation is everywhere"

HOWEVER that happens after playing for several thousands of years

[silk ocean]

But you want a fac that is 100% sustainable, like runs for a million years xD Storage is not a solution xD

[reef basin]

it very much is. Not million years, but basically storage can last for your lifetime easily

[silk ocean]

Eventually it will get full

[valid lark]

Oh alright, yeah thats not good then hahaha

[reef basin]

sure, but realistically it won't affect you

[limpid cairn]

When I’m old I’m giving the savefile to my youngest kid

so he can expand the factory…

[reef basin]

at that point SF won't be playable due to no longer being supported and hardware/software being outdated

[silk ocean]

It kinda did xD

[reef basin]

no, because at that point you'll be long dead

[limpid cairn]

Realistically can’t I just use old hardware with old software?

[reef basin]

no, because you need e.g. Steam to launch it

(which needs to be updated and online - either Steam or Epic - to log in to your acc)

[limpid cairn]

Well, time to keep satisfactory alive

[silk ocean]

What if you live forever, the fac will run but storage will fill up xD

[reef basin]

no, there's still the problem of outdated software and hardware

[limpid cairn]

Well, time to develop a mod that gives access to speeding up the world

[silk ocean]

These things can be updated/replaced xD

[limpid cairn]

Btw will there ever be dlc for satisfactory?

[reef basin]

that would mean you'd have to update SF as well, which means gaining access to the code and such

[limpid cairn]

Like another map or something

[reef basin]

map? no
dlc? maybe

[shy mulch]

There is a large thriving global community dedicated to reviving/restoring/playing retro games and the amount of effort they sometimes have to put in to get games that are 30+ years old to even work, is sometimes quite astonishing

[limpid cairn]

Also is it possible to add custom paintings to walls and foundations?

[reef basin]

the problem is that usually that means rewriting the game from scratch, at which point it's no longer the original game

(I'd argue that even small mod-like changes are no longer in the spirit of "it's original Satisfactory")

[limpid cairn]

Can’t you theoretically reverse engineer the game to get source code to rewrite the game?

Or does that only work for programs

[silk ocean]

OpenTTD? xD

[reef basin]

theoretically maybe, but again, that's no longer the original game

[shy mulch]

'programs' everything is a program

[limpid cairn]

Yeah but games like satisfactory run through an engine so I wanted to kinda exclude „games“ yk?

[shy mulch]

Theoretically you could, but just writing it from scratch would probably be quicker and easier

[reef basin]

engine is basically just "here's some code you didn't write but is in your game anyway"
it's no different to me copy-pasting a code snippet from internet to add to my game

[limpid cairn]

You got a point

[fiery lotus]

Yeah ultimately an engine is just a way to view data + some libraries

& (sometimes) compilers of course

[silk ocean]

and like 10 million lines of C++ ? xD

[fiery lotus]

Big libraries (:

Anyways my first factory is going along neatly, I tried not to spaghet it too much

[limpid cairn]

Not only c++ there’s different engines but yeah

[limpid cairn]

They usually have custom editors for objects too no? (Like a workshop in Roblox and unity for example (I only used them so I got no clue about ue or other engines))

[fiery lotus]

That would fall under a way to view data, I was intentionally being broad with it lol

No experience with any actual in-engine editors though I do all my object creation in Blender, the 3D editor in an engine is just for placing environment pieces & triggers/spawners/etc in the scene as far as I'm concerned.

But the integration is nice

[unkempt blade]

all I know is factory carts have the best engine for games

[fiery lotus]

Oh that's adorable, guess I've got to start using the AWESOME sink

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1289229079001825280/1406956716658266253/image.png?ex=68a45a0d&is=68a3088d&hm=38738d2002bd9f0782baf7778a6fc43741a37580eb81a009f400d78a4b2cc90f

Too me longer than it should have to setup what I have already but I do have a lot of excess now

[wary fox]

any way to directly choose an alternate recipe when scanning hard drives or is it luck of the draw?

[hard ivy]

yes, scan enough hard drives and it'll show you every single recie. then you can choose the one you want

[lunar jasper]

is the alternate plutonium fuel rod worth using? or is normal recipe better

[reef basin]

it's luck, but you can get all recipes anyway, so usually the way is "scan enough hard drives"

[reef basin]

"worth" and "better" depend on your preferences and priorities.

[hard ivy]

depends what you want. default makes less plutonium rods per cell, the alt makes more

[lunar jasper]

hmmmm

[astral knoll]

Don't choose a recipe when you scan btw, just hold onto it for when/if you're gonna use it. The rolls you're holding on to won't pop up again so long as you didn't choose a reward.

[reef basin]

that's only relevant if you're looking for a specific recipe

[silk ocean]

The nightmare of nuclear is upon me, why didn't I just build Fuel xD

[astral knoll]

Correct, or just not wanting the bad recipes to keep showing up

[reef basin]

well imo there's no "bad" recipes 😛

[fiery lotus]

Very happy I made blade runners before going 1400m to setup coal power

[astral knoll]

I wonder how you feel about charcoal/biocoal

[fiery lotus]

Oh hey I found a quartz node

[reef basin]

the same was as I feel about any other recipe

[viral egret]

thinking about staring a new playthrough in the desert

I don't believe it's that hard, no? and it's flatter

[fiery lotus]

Seems like a fun place to build megastructures

I started towards the edge of it so I have good access later

[reef basin]

basically - every recipe is useful for something, whether you reach the situation where the recipe is useful depends on your playstyle

[astral knoll]

Elaborate on a theoretical situation where you'd actively think your best course of action was to use biocoal

[reef basin]

when making things out of coal and not near coal

e.g. ammo production (which by definition has very limited use), you just dump bio stuff you get from clearing out things and get ammo back

[fiery lotus]

Ow, is the pink slug doing damage to me or is it something else

It was something else

Apparently the gas emitters don't emit gas on my screen half the time

[astral knoll]

Picturing myself in this sitation

Chop tree - Wood to biomass - biomass to coal - coal to smokeless powder - rifle ammo - just to kill a few more things out during my adventures
(This implying you have the sulfur and copper sheets just chilling in my depot but for some reason I didn't think to put my infinite supply of coal in there, I also wouldn't have had the thought to automate any of this ammo and put it in the depot either)

By the time you get done with that whole rigmarole, you coulda just sprinted to the nearest coal node, or better yet, back to base to now make an ammo factory

[reef basin]

the ammo production is automated

it's near nodes and such, just no coal nearby

you dump your biomass into a container and it gets sorted and converted to coal

[hard ivy]

Or you could just... build it near coal and not wast a HDD on biocoal?

[reef basin]

there's more HDDs than recipes, it's not a waste

and locations with coal and sulfur and other things are rare

[fiery lotus]

I've still only found a single HDD, where are these crash sites lol

[hard ivy]

everywhere

[fiery lotus]

Just went on an entire adventure & found a total of zero

Although half of the adventure was underground

[astral knoll]

Literally looking at the interactive map, you have to go out of your way to not be near a coal node

[reef basin]

that assumes none of the nodes are used, which won't be a thing as soon as you reach T2

people always are like "X resource is everywhere", but they never think about situation in which the player is, they just look at empty map

[astral knoll]

Yeah, because you can just run there, set up a miner and a belt line, literally anywhere

[hard ivy]

well, yeah, there are no underground crash sites

[reef basin]

or just use the recipe that allows you to skip "running a belt line"

[astral knoll]

That involves you constantly refilling a factory with biomass instead

Your choice I suppose 🤷‍♂️

[reef basin]

"constantly" is like three times during entire playthrough because you don't use ammo "constantly"

[fiery lotus]

Sad I was half-expecting there to be a space dragon equivalent hoarding a dozen of them in a cave somewhere

[reef basin]

also, it's perfectly valid for you to not like the situation

I'm not saying "all people should use the recipe for this"
I'm saying "some people like to use the recipe for this"

[astral knoll]

I can agree to that, but to say that all recipes are of equal value while admitting that some are vastly more niche than others would be a contradiction.

[fiery lotus]

I kinda want to make logistic chaos

Every factory using different recipes

[sterile blade]

I think that saying biocoal is as useful as any other recipe is about as nonsensical as saying that Sushi-load-balancing is as useful info as knowing about manifolds or balancers. A very very small percentage of people will ever put themselves in a situation where they might agree. It's something one has to really dig themselves into (usually due very specific preferences)

[reef basin]

I never said "they are equal value". I said "all are useful in some scenarios"

(though again, the "value" of a recipe depends on the player)

[fiery lotus]

Manifolds & balancers were self-evident as someone who is technically not an engineer & has never played a logistics game before

What is sushi though lol

[astral knoll]

Equal value was the implication with this statement in my opinion, but I'll agree to disagree

[reef basin]

sushi is when you have a mixed belt and use that to feed machine(s)

[reef basin]

that statement was explained in next message

basically - every recipe is useful for something, whether you reach the situation where the recipe is useful depends on your playstyle

[sterile blade]

Sushi is a belt carrying different kinds of items. Sushi-load-balancing is using programmable splitters to load-balance such belts (other splitters need to filter out the individual items first)
Ie: sushi-balancing is a niche in a niche; comparing knowing about that VS knowing about manifolds/balancers is kinda nonsensical

[fiery lotus]

Ah so what I accidentally did & definitely did not have the overflow belts to handle

Or the technology

[sterile blade]

That's not a problem, if you don't have overflow

[sterile blade]

"I feel the same about X as about everything else" seems to heavily imply that (equal value) 🤷‍♂️
I'm not trying to twist your words, just telling you how I perceived that in context

[reef basin]

I feel the same (where what I'm feeling is "this recipe is useful in some scenarios, depending on player's preferences")

^ is what I meant

[sterile blade]

And to be honest, I also have yet to see someone actually using that recipe (and not cursing about it)

[warped crane]

I use that recipe all the time, it's one of my faves

[reef basin]

I've seen several people telling that they used it (unironically)

[sterile blade]

I can't tell wether you're joking or not

[warped crane]

Not really my problem 🤷

[sterile blade]

Uhm... Thanks for clarifying o.O

[warped crane]

Happy to help!

[astral knoll]

Certified jokester

[onyx siren]

I am making the nitro rocket fuel recipe, is there anything I can use the compact coal byproduct for? Or do I just sink it

[reef basin]

loop it back?

or basically anything that needs compacted coal

[warped crane]

Naw I'm chronically unamusing

[astral knoll]

Prove it, tell me a knock knock joke right now

[warped crane]

Knock Knock

[astral knoll]

Who's there

[sterile blade]

If you open the codex and look for "Compacted Coal", you'll have a list of all productions that make use of it (excluding powerplants)

[warped crane]

Edge of

[astral knoll]

Edge of who?

[warped crane]

Hold on

[shy mulch]

Me sitting with 40 industrial storages full of solid biofuel and nothing to use it on since I've got 7k rocket fuel per minute at my disposal. Wish the biocoal alt worked with solid biofuel not just regular biomass, feel like I should be able to use that biofuel for something

[hard ivy]

I keep all my biofuel in protein form lol

[modest nest]

Send it into a truck route for like an not super important truck and just use it up

[atomic notch]

Why would you ever need 40 iscs of solid biofuel

[shy mulch]

also is it just me or does liquid biofuel make no sense, it makes less power than solid biofuel?

[shy mulch]

I wanted to make more, but felt I should stop

[hard ivy]

great for the jetpack

[pulsar bobcat]

guys i made a dual line t junction and like every single signal is erroring

[shy mulch]

better than ionized?

[hard ivy]

for building, yes

[fiery lotus]

Truly a lord of procrastionation

[shy mulch]

I generally use hoverpack for building

[runic bolt]

Even worse
It was in a dogshit factory that made modular engined and adaptive control units, yknow, tier 3 SE parts

[hard ivy]

also, I'm pretty sure it doesn't make less power

[boreal musk]

dont forget you also need refinery and some plastic for canister for packaged lbf

[molten lintel]

my train keeps crashing my game

[hard ivy]

you can use steel or iron and copper for the canisters

[shy mulch]

You're right, I did the calculation backwards
6 solid biofuel (450MJ each) turns into 4 liquid biofuel (750MJ each)
So you're turning 2700MJ into 3000MJ
Not a massive jump though

[boreal musk]

ye, which means more power for smelters and constructors

[shy mulch]

Power isn't an issue

Well, not in this save anyway

[boreal musk]

im talking about power gain wise

comparing to solid biofuel

[shy mulch]

ah, gotcha

[astral knoll]

Or, hear me out

Sink them all 😎

[shy mulch]

I wouldn't be using it for power I reckon, interesting to try it out compared to ionized fuel

[boreal musk]

comparing them in jetpack is not even close

lbf win by miles

[shy mulch]

vs ionized?

[atomic notch]

Unless youre goin up lol

[boreal musk]

both has the same uptime, but lbf is more stable if you want to hover around

[shy mulch]

370 sink points per packaged liquid biofuel, not even worth the bother lol

[reef basin]

if you want to hover around, you want hoverpack

[shy mulch]

almost like there's another item for hovering

[astral knoll]

Better than it just taking up space but yeah, you're not wrong lol

[clever sandal]

how do i make 90 degree conveyor belts

[silk rose]

giveaway like 1 000 keys, that would help

[onyx siren]

I never got this far before, but one of the things me and my friends are working on after finally getting our rocket fuel power plant up and running is to make fused modular frames. We just made a factory to produce 6 hmf/min so does 6 fused modular frames/min seem reasonable? I noticed they are needed for 2 different elevator parts, so I am worries we'll have to make that whole thing again

[onyx siren]

I gave away 3 to my friends, so if you could give away the other 997, we'll reach 1000 in no time

[fiery lotus]

Turn your head 90 degrees

[silk rose]

wait isnt source code public

[silk rose]

how do they make mods

[reef basin]

no

[fiery lotus]

APIs?

[onyx siren]

Press R to change the build mode for conveyers. One of the option is straight which gives those tight corners with long stretches of straight lines

[reef basin]

afaik there's no public API

[silk rose]

you can burn it in coal gens

[silk rose]

make liquid biofuel for jetpack

[silk rose]

• 3

[naive orchid]

hi how do i make complex parts without having to make conveyor spaghetti

[silk rose]

plan stuff before you build

[naive orchid]

idk how to plan stuff

its my first world

[reef basin]

I know?

[reef basin]

plan one thing at a time

[naive orchid]

ok

[silk rose]

1. what part
2. how much
3. machines and square
4. layout
5. building and correcting
6. decoration
   works for me

[silk rose]

wrong reply

i wanted to tell to the guy who asked

[silk rose]

add 2-10 'correcting' steps scaled with factory complexity

[sterile blade]

Making spaghetti is perfectly acceptable. You are always free to turn them into non-spaghetti at anytime.

It's actually quite hard to make complex things "perfectly" in one shot, most people iterate over their designs (eg: rebuilding belts to make them more orderly)

[naive orchid]

ik i just don't want to forget where i put all my stuff 1 day

[sterile blade]

Organization items can help. Look into the MAM and awesome shop

[reef basin]

I mean generally the suggestion is to not connect existing factories to new factories, instead make brand new factories not connected to existing ones

[unkempt blade]

yeah you'd be putting them to much better use making solid biofuel too

[naive orchid]

yea... i have SAM, caterium and quartz seperate

although i think i'm going to connect caterium to my main factory soon since its needed for many thing

[unkempt blade]

followed closely by: build stuff all over the place and connect it all with trains to handle dependencies

[onyx siren]

Elevate your builds and have half the conveyers go under the build platform. There are no machines in the way down there so it's much easier to work with, use conveyer holes and those ceiling conveyer mounts from the awesome shop to help with this.

Also you can place splitters and mergers directly onto conveyer lifts so you can set up very compact manifolds that way (works both above and below your factory

[naive orchid]

yea i did something similar, made the 1st floor conveyors only

[silk rose]

add logistic floors in general

[unkempt blade]

logistics floors just hide the spaghetti which if that's the goal is just fine but doesn't make troubleshooting easier

[silk rose]

not necessary, you can make them look good if you have enough space

[naive orchid]

oh yeah i cant post my factory pic here

[onyx siren]

I tipically don't reserve a whole floor for logistics, I just build taller than I need (4 of the 3 meter walls) and have production on the floor, and conveyers for the second floor on the ceiling. The first floor is usually refinement so there isn't much spaghetti there anyway

[silk rose]

#screenshots

[unkempt blade]

you can also make above-ground conveyors look good with space 😄

[reef basin]

#screenshots for showing off, #1038092680493801533 or #design-and-architecture or #math-and-meta if you want help with it

[naive orchid]

its in screenshots now..

[silk rose]

use. foundations.

[unkempt blade]

use more foundations to start with, once you're using foundations leave yourself a little more space to build than you think you'll need

[slate python]

[naive orchid]

i can use foundations, but im too lazy to remove alla that

[slate python]

That’s crazy

[reef basin]

don't remove, build elsewhere

[naive orchid]

isnt that like

the "best" spot?

[reef basin]

nah, there's no "best" spot in general

[unkempt blade]

you're going to have to expand at some point and there are lots of good spots

[clever sandal]

hi @unkempt blade

[reef basin]

there may be "good" spots for certain factories, but there's practically never a "best" spot

and the map is huge, so go expand and explore 😉

[naive orchid]

im gonna try looking something up

[slate python]

You can either use foundations or the dune desert is also kind of flat which is good

[clever sandal]

should I restart my world i fell that because I didn't like build stuff nice tidy on foundations and made the rookie mistake of making it all like spaghetti

[reef basin]

nah, just carry on, move hub if you want

[unkempt blade]

nah that's how you learn, just make the next factory slightly nicer 😄

[naive orchid]

but, removing everything is also an option right?

i can remove everything and place it back nicer

[clever sandal]

yeah now I have just a nightmare of trying to add new stuff because of that spaghetti world, i even had to make a special highway bridge so I could move around with my tractor

[reef basin]

well yeah, but that wastes a lot of time

if you instead build new, you'll have two factories instead of one 😉

[unkempt blade]

it's your save you can do what you want but a running factory that's messy still produces parts

[naive orchid]

running a messy factory is just like playing satisfactory with 1.2k cockroaches

in your room*

[clever sandal]

💀

[unkempt blade]

I'll build a new factory next to my early game slop then just switch over where the ore goes all at once and remove the mess. Usually later in the game when I want to use more of that node's resources

[clever sandal]

what the helly

my game just crashed

[hard ivy]

the cockroaches are coming for you too

[onyx siren]

I have restarted 5 times now, so i am a bit biased. But each restart i found new and better ways to build factories so it may not be a bad idea to restart.

First game I didn't use foundations
Second game, I used them, but didn't hold ctrl to line stuff up (it's a game changer)
Third game I only built horizontally not vertically
Forth game i built vertically but all my spaghetti was above the surface of the foundations
My current game i figured out how to make use of conveyer lifts to put half my conveyers under the platforms massively reducing spaghetti and making stuff much easier to see and comprehend

[naive orchid]

ok everyone thank you for trying to convince me to not waste 5 hours rebuilding everything, but i'm actually going to waste probably even more than that on building the best factory i can

[clever sandal]

well Im still kinda new but I have alr some hours so I aint so fool no longer and I have watched some videos too on some advice

[unkempt blade]

yeah I don't think anyone is saying people shouldn't try to get better over time what we're mostly saying is you don't need to restart to do it (unless you want to, it's your time!)

an organized factory tends to get easier as you have more tools to use (BPs, awesome shop unlocks, more logistics stuff, the hoverpack, etc) and restarting puts you further away from those QOL options

[onyx siren]

Dismantling stuff piece by piece is probably gonna take longer than just restarting from scratch, at least with how much stuff I had been putting down

[clever sandal]

55 hours is still like low compared to some other players among us and usually I think avarege game that saves the earth takes like 120 hours

[shy mulch]

I've done similar, except did it all in the same save. I didn't see any reason to restart. When I am unhappy with a factory or system I just move to another part of the map and do it again, but better. I love doing a history tour and looking around old factories that are inefficient, small and badly designed compared to more recent stuff

[shy mulch]

I'm a little over 1100 hours now in total, about 800 hours on my main save, and I'm still learning. There's always something new to learn

[onyx siren]

Wish I could, but I started satisfactory on epic games store and lost all my progress at some point, I bought the game again on steam cuz I never had that kind of problem there

[clever sandal]

Damn that's a lotta logistics and engineering

[shy mulch]

I've never used Epic, but I would have assumed the save games were transferrable. Are they not stored locally on your machine?

[unkempt blade]

just in case you're unaware you can dismantle multiple things at the same time

[onyx siren]

Oh, maybe they were stored locally. I did have to re-image my computer cuz windows was acting very wierd so I guess I lost the saves then. but steam saves a backup on cloud so I never lose progress using steam.

[river oriole]

😂

[onyx siren]

How???

[unkempt blade]

hold ctrl and move your cursor over stuff

then dismantle it all at the same time

[onyx siren]

So i guess I didn't have to restart those times...

[unkempt blade]

yeah it would still take some amount of effort but I don't think it's quite as bad as you'd think without mass dismantle

[dense turtle]

yo it says my block has conflicting entry signal types on my junction can someone help

[onyx siren]

I found this out too late, cuz I dismantled my whole compact coal power plant to make steel for HMFs

But this will help for the future

[odd remnant]

I spent 2 days figuring out my power outage and had to delete all of it to separate each section to make the power turn back on

[onyx siren]

That was half the reason I restarted so often. (Tho if I knew I could mass dismantle then I could have just remade the factories/power plants)

[odd remnant]

I almost quit playing, I had to separate each section. My mistake was that I only had one section of power and overwhelmed it.

[shy mulch]

probably way to solve having conflicting entry signal types is to not have conflicting entry signal types 😛
check each entrance to the junction and look what signal type is at each, replace the one that's different

[dense turtle]

lmao easiest fix ever

yeah i had 2 block signals

[shy mulch]

😄

yeah you generally want a path signal on each entrance path and a block signal on each exit path, and another block some distance before each path signal, to avoid trains slowing down unnecessarily

[dense turtle]

yeah i know i just misplaced

[onyx siren]

Lucky I won't have that problem anymore with 2 overclocked blenders producing nitrus rocket fuel. I can seemingly just add on as many fuel generators as I want whenever I need more power, I haven't even used somersloops on the blenders yet so things can get ever more crazy if I did

[odd remnant]

I haven't unlocked it yet I'm still in coal 😔

[shy mulch]

Just scale it up massively now then never need to worry about power again 🙂

[dense turtle]

i still dont understand how block singals work tho

[odd remnant]

My mistake is that I overclocked it

[dense turtle]

there are constant problems with it

[onyx siren]

Exactly what I am thinking, why bother setting down all the fuel generators at once, when I can plop down 16 more at a time whenever I need more power.

[shy mulch]

overclocking is fine, it makes everything simpler, less connections, less machines etc., only uses more power, but making more power is pretty easy

[onyx siren]

I wish I could help with train signals, but the only trains I use are just on a circular path for long distance liquid transfer...

[shy mulch]

why wait though, just put them all down now, then you can forget about it forever 🙂

[odd remnant]

Hmm good tip I will keep that in mind

[keen oriole]

because fuel you're not using yet should be vented or saved

You shouldn't just burn a lot of fuel for no reason

That's just a waste of coupons

[onyx siren]

Cuz i will get bored out of my mind placing down 80ish max overclocked fuel generators (without even somerslooping the blenders)

[shy mulch]

block signals just separate sections, trains on autopilot won't enter a section that already has a train on it, so put block signals down to separate sections of track so multiple trains can run smoothly without blocking each other
for junctions, put a path signal at each junction entrance and a block signal at each junction exit, and that's all you really need

[acoustic heart]

If I hit standby on a droneport, will its dedicated drone come back and dock until I activate it again?

[topaz shale]

Big decision: Should I try to build an 80 fuel generator power plant from one pure node or just build a little 20 fuel generator build and get nuclear instead.

[shy mulch]

that's what blueprints are for, you can fit 2 fuel gens with pipes and power poles already fitted into a blueprint, stamp that down 40 times with autoconect on, will take no time at all

[dense turtle]

sorry that u said so much i mean i know how they work but theres always some errors, i know how to use them on junctions but anywhere else theres either, no exit signal, looping or some other shit

[unkempt blade]

yeah especially with autoconnect now BPs are absolutely worth investing a little learning time into. You'll get that effort back in no time when you're building stuff at mid-endgame scale

[shy mulch]

there's a known bug that they sometimes misbehave when set on junctions and display errors when they shouldn't. the solution is just to destroy and replace each piece of track in the junction one at a time, then do the same for the signals, then it will work

[acoustic heart]

What happens if you delete a drone port before the drone is able to come back?

[naive pendant]

Afaik the drone who uses the deleted port as its home port also gets deleted leaving a crate behind at its current location. @acoustic heart

[onyx siren]

Blueprints are the greatest thing that i have never actually used.

[balmy lake]

Gamers

Is there a roadmap?

[dense turtle]

roadmap? u mean just map?

[naive pendant]

SCIM has a map of all the roads

[balmy lake]

Its what the devs have planned for the future updates for the game*

[hard ivy]

afaik, no

[dense turtle]

oh

thats what roadmap was

[balmy lake]

Kek

[balmy lake]

Hmm I see, did they talk about future plans?

[hard ivy]

they're currently working on the console release, and I don't think they said what they're gonna do after that

[unkempt blade]

not sure when their summer vacation ends but I'd think you'd probably hear more about future plans after they're back

[balmy lake]

I see, thank you all for the reply

[dense turtle]

#screenshots like rn i placed the closer block signal and there isnt even any color change

[onyx siren]

I wonder if they will ever add something like the conveyer monitor to pipes. Something that can average out the flow over a longer stretch of time rather than the fluxuating instantaneous flow readout in the pipes

That would be a nice qol improvment, even tho I can just do the math

[subtle swan]

is it possible to know far before hitting a hyper tube junction to know what way you are going

[onyx siren]

Yes, there are blinking rings of light that show which path you are about to go on

[subtle swan]

im putting a cannon on the front so i wont be able to see but i think i can fix it by making an intersection that will default to the right and only when i intereact ill go left

[onyx siren]

There is always a default direction so that should work

Maybe put some signs near the entrance as a reminder

[subtle swan]

i did a little bit of testing and i noticed it will store the latest input

[onyx siren]

Oh wait, really? I must have been thinking about the branch then...

[subtle swan]

yea i will use those now

[steep creek]

hi so i decided that i would take a ride on the little hub spaceship thing up to space and i died does the deathcrate teleport to the ground or does it stay in the sky?

[subtle swan]

since they default straight

[onyx siren]

Wherever you are when you click the respawn button is where the crate will be, even in the air. Idk what happens if you respawn from that high up tho...

[steep creek]

😭

at least i have my coffee mug

[onyx siren]

Oof, I hope you weren't carrying any somersloops or mercer spheres

[steep creek]

i think i had 1 mercer sphere

at least i got the max height achievement

[onyx siren]

Ah... there are about 300 mercer spheres in the game iirc, so only losing one is a small price to pay for learning that lesson. Dimensional depot uploader is your friend. I toss all those non-renewables into there as soon as I grab them.

[steep creek]

yeah i dont know why but i dont use the dimensional depot much at all

[shy mulch]

it appears on the last solid thing you stood on

[steep creek]

like i only have 1 and i upload iron plates

[hard ivy]

I'm pretty sure the crate can't spawn outside the map boundaries. at worst, it should be at the height limit

[steep creek]

oh so in that case it will be on the spaceship thing

[steep creek]

ah alr ty

[onyx siren]

That's definitely not true, I have gotten launched by hogs many times and the crate is always where I click the respawn button. Sometimes If I am rolling around after dying, I time the respawn to where I can most easly get the crate back

You can even see the crate spawn in after pressing the respawn button

[shy mulch]

rolling around on the ground?

[onyx siren]

Yah, with enough momentum

[shy mulch]

so, on a solid thing...

[topaz shale]

Ok mk5 belts are actually really nice and fairly cheap.

[onyx siren]

Not necessarily, sometimes the in the air is a better time to respawn than in a pit

After checking the wiki, looks like if you die to a death plain, then it will spawn on the last spot you have touched the ground.

Otherwise, it's where you respawn from

[shy mulch]

Don't think I've ever hit the respawn button tbh

[onyx siren]

How??? Have you never died?

[shy mulch]

When dying normally yes of course, I mean when you choose to respawn from the menu

[hard ivy]

when you die, you get ragdolled and have to press a button to actually respawn

[shy mulch]

I thought he was talking about the menu option

[onyx siren]

Oh, not that

[steep creek]

ohhhh my god i shouldve waited for my body to fall before i hit respawn 😭

[hard ivy]

did you even check where your crate actually is

[heavy pine]

In my current game I've turned on God mode and flight. Sort of RP'ing as Rogue from the X-Men.

[onyx siren]

Since you died to a death plane, I think you should find it on the ground somewhere

[steep creek]

yes its not there

its not on the ground

[hard ivy]

there's a marker on the compass

[steep creek]

yea ik its not there i checked

[onyx siren]

Oh... that's rough

[gaunt tulip]

🚩 @obsidian zodiac - I saw your #announcements message about Version 1.0 "Memories". Could you possibly post this on the Official Reddit. While I could do it, I feel it would be better coming from you. Thanks.

[obsidian zodiac]

great idea! i wanted to give discord some love but reddit would be good too

[acoustic heart]

I want to be able to ride drones bro

[sterile blade]

*solid thing you rolled around on

||Sorry, I had to... ||

[sterile blade]

Did you possibly hit a tree or something else during fall?

[steep creek]

for some stupid reason i immediately pressed respawn

the crate is at max height

im already pretty far up with this ladder so no turning back ig lol

[sterile blade]

Yeah, you really drew the short end of the bug-stick with this one

[steep creek]

i just reached max height

its not here.

[sterile blade]

You might want to use SCIM to check where it is and just move it at this point (if you're not afraid of possible spoilers)

[steep creek]

i mean the only real big loss was the 13 coupons and the 1 mercer sphere but the rest is just resources i can easily restock from my warehouse

[shy mulch]

how do you know it's at max height? you looked in SCIM?

[steep creek]

no ill have a look now

tbf i prolly shouldve done that before i made the ladder

[shy mulch]

I'm curious what led you to conclude it was at max height

[steep creek]

well it wasnt on the ground

[shy mulch]

Could be at min height for all you know haha

2km underground 😄

[steep creek]

and i pressed respawn as soon as i died

[steep creek]

god i hope not

[hard ivy]

Min height is actually ~-250

But I guess that's the instakill border

I have no clue how high or low can you build or where a crate can spawn

[steep creek]

turns out its right next to my space elevator at 93m so thats odd

so the crate has some stuff in it but not my equipment and some other stuff is missing

this is really odd

oh yeah and i have a ladder to max height leading to nowhere

[hard ivy]

Sounds more like a dismantle crate than a death crate

[steep creek]

yeah it was because its been there for a while its just had a load of random crap in it

but for some reason it has some stuff that never was there

i only just recently got to aluminum production and there was some bauxite in there

[shy mulch]

I wasn't going for accuracy was just making a joke, but yeah 😄 I've built all the way to the lower limit, its creepy down there

[acoustic heart]

Anyone have recipe suggestions to make super computers use less buildings and setup?

I gotta automate Neural-Quantum Processor and Im really not wanting to have to build another super computer factory lol

[steep creek]

oh wait nevermind i found the crate its pretty high up

2366m high

[hard ivy]

Since 1.1, dismantle crates can combine into 1. So the stuff is probably from multiple different dismantlings

[steep creek]

wow im suprised they combine from such a distance

like my space elevator is like 5 floors up from my aluminum production

[topaz shale]

I'm actually kinda glad that I handfed to phase 3. Since making the phase 4 factories is gonna need a lot of space.

[sterile blade]

Should've avoided dying in the first place, easy peasy
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[hard ivy]

Super-state is the cheapest overall, so I'd say it's probably fewest machines too.

Whatever SFTools spits out in default settings is usually pretty close to the lowest effort option

[steep creek]

i was planning to jump off but i didnt

it was like divine intervention

[sterile blade]

Iirc it's supoosed to pool items only in a certain range (~100m?)

But bugs be bugging

[steep creek]

yeah its defo further away than that

[cunning glade]

It's right next too league imo

Does amd just fucking hate this game

[modest nest]

Not that I've noticed, I'm on full AMD and haven't had any performance problems

Unless we are not talking about satisfactory

[onyx siren]

Why do people talk about fused modular frame factories being big, when stuff like super computers exist, this is insane how many resources they take and they are all rare stuff like caterium, oil, and copper

[steel tangle]

that sounds like you answered your own question xD

oh wait, nevermind, I got mixed up

[hard ivy]

Because FMFs take HMFs and people have PTSD from HMFs because they use dogshit recipes that make the factory 2x larger and more expensive than it needs to be

[steel tangle]

Yeah, after rereading, ☝️ is the correct answer

[onyx siren]

Ah, I guess not everyone got the encased pipe, wet concrete or that heavy modular frame recipe, I guess it would be much harder without those. But the default recipe only super computers would take 1512 crude oil per minute to make just 6 super computers per minute

[feral geyser]

I go with the flexible frame recipe

Screws ain't so bad with steel screws and aluminum beams.

And i have 2700/min of rubber that idk what to do with

[shy mulch]

Send it to your limestone nodes, adding rubber gets you more concrete per limestone than water does

[feral geyser]

I'm already doing that too 😭

[shy mulch]

I intentionally made my rubber factory overproduce by 720/min for that purpose

[unkempt blade]

send it to the sink, rubber gets you more tickets than water does 😄

[feral geyser]

But also, I need some of my limestone as is for the silica blenders

[shy mulch]

I'm gonna make a bunch of factory carts and send them to the sink