satisfactory

[storm talon]

Well, come to think of it someone said the gravity of it is higher than earth so I guess it's a pretty big moon

I was gonna say that it must be a small world, but scratch that.

It's a big world after all.

Also it wasn't the titan forest it must have been near the red bamboo fields. But still, watching that thing fly into the abyss was satisfying

[silk ocean]

KYO is the boss xD

[lyric cliff]

I forget, how do I know what's on experimental?
Haven't played in a while and am deciding if I should download experimental or release.

[silk ocean]

Release? xD

[steady glade]

no real need to play on experimental, releae was like 2 months ago and they're focusing on console now, except for bugs here and there

[hard ivy]

There's currently no difference between the 2 versions

Well, other than experimental having the annoying experimental ribbon in the top left corner

[lyric cliff]

easy choice then, tvym!

[hasty peak]

wasnt there a vertical conveyer belt bug where it didnt work until it was rebuilt on experimental one time

[peak wasp]

100s not at thousands yet

[willow glen]

small factory then, make it bigger!

[shy mulch]

for 500 power storages to discharge over an entire week, consumption would need to be on the order of 300MW, that's a very small factory, go build things!

[peak wasp]

Okay I will build my favourite stuff...more batteries

[ionic forge]

Currently baby sitting the PowerPlant so it doesnt dip under 525 (its a 600 Mw plant)

I love coal power, 1 0ure node feeds 8 coal plants, which need 4 water turbines

[storm talon]

Oof. Compare that to my spaghetti mess of water extractors behind my plant. Oh well lol

[glad pollen]

Hi guys, I’d like to submit a suggestion to satisfactory. How should I do that?

[silk ocean]

#1038092680493801533 ?

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @hard ivy

[hard ivy]

^ there

[glad pollen]

Thanks!

[heady ether]

is there a reason why multiplayer is so laggy for the people who join, no matter who hosts it?

[silk ocean]

The boss has spoken xD

[dense violet]

do a search in #1038092680493801533 , there's been answers about mp lag there. I think there's often a few simple solutions

[twin bay]

Did they say if this game would be crossplay when console drops?

[peak wasp]

The US healthcare system is stupid...you donate one liver and you are a hero....but if you donate ten you get arrested...make it make sense America.

[dusky pelican]

Got lazy and built a conveyor belt on top of a hypertube. Looks like total crap when I use the hypertube. Oh well, nothing to be done

[willow glen]

using ceiling mount hypertubes was a mistake. They work great but my view is just face-being-dragged-on-foundation

best hypertubes are the ones that go thru forests imo. Trees whizzing by is interesting to look at

[empty hatch]

I love the map but if this game has a procedurally generated map, my life would be over

[ivory condor]

I dont think organ harvesting is a legal practice

[versed cosmos]

ada would absolutely support organ harvesting

its part of the save the day program

[willow glen]

ya, it’s a great map, but after a few factories I have to force myself to relocate the resources to build in a different spot. Otherwise every save ends up looking quite similar (in the biome development at least, not necessarily machine placement)

[versed cosmos]

Harvest.

[ivory condor]

Probably yes....

But I dont want this to become a legal practice right now for obvious reasons....

[topaz shale]

Really should have been using the autoconnect feature for the blueprints for manifold systems sooner. Setting up HMFs have never been easier.

[crisp edge]

i just had ada's choo choo motherfucker voice line 😂 this game is incredible

[versed cosmos]

ada is a fucking gem lmao she's awesome

love when im doing a bunch of research and she gets mad at me

[crisp edge]

oh does she get sassy if you back to back to back your research?

[versed cosmos]

yes

[rigid mist]

3/4 done the round map train route
got the uranium in the cave

[crisp edge]

lmao i just speed ran caterium for 7 nodes. she's hilarious

[topaz shale]

Never ask a satisfactory player to show their spaghetti.

[versed cosmos]

there's a few lines she can choose from

[crisp edge]

she went with something about how the message i just skipped was an award winner of some kind, then 'i see i'm talking too slow for you' followed by unintelligible superfast talking, then 'i hope that was helpful'

[versed cosmos]

incredible

[topaz shale]

Moments like that that really make me enjoy the game.

[versed cosmos]

also the interactions with her and mercer spheres and somersloops

i won't say too much since it's spoilers but it's interesting and funny stuff

[split pewter]

with ||consume more blood?||

iirc thats the name

[crisp edge]

i got one today about how || there is definitely no danger from repeat exposure to these signals. in fact, they said it's good for you. the the good news is you should run towards these dangerous looking objects whenever you see them. doctor's orders' ||

[versed cosmos]

there's an order to them

[crisp edge]

it was #5

[versed cosmos]

i've gotten most of them but i think i'm still missing some

[fast spade]

This seems like it would be really fun to play with people, but i dont see any servers in the client?

[undone crow]

In heading off for the night but if anyone sees this and can tag me with a screenshot of a well laid out train depot I would really appreciate it. My fuel plant will need at least 6 different stations and id like to set it up in a way that doesn't get congested.

Tha k you. 👊

[dense violet]

you make your own server
also, most people play alone

[dense violet]

just have a 6 stations paralel to each other off the main line

[crisp edge]

there is an lfg channel in this server, but my play schedule is too erratic, i'd feel bad trying to find someone to play with on a schedule and be unable to play with them

[onyx siren]

just set up rocket fuel, and i can fully overclock 69 generators. i won't, but i can

[dense violet]

ore plan your power station so you don't need to bring in that much. You can do most fuel things in one spot

[topaz shale]

Got the HMF factory up and running. Makes about 1.76/min so I'm happy with that. I don't really need a whole bunch anyways and could always sloop. That did not take me too long to set up.

[wicked nacelle]

That’s cuz 1.76/m

[steady glade]

nice

[topaz shale]

It's still a decent amount but I know what you mean. It eats up iron like crazy.

[wicked nacelle]

A pure node and some coal can make way more than that. I’d shoot for st least 5x

[topaz shale]

I'm not overclocking the node, yet.

And I only have mk2 miners anyways.

End game area, sure, but not yet.

This is more to just have some in storage for when I need it.

[wicked nacelle]

Ahh yes especially without over clocking that’s a good amount. But overclock your miners. And sloop your slugs

[willow glen]

using a lot of alts I’m somehow making 3.7 HMF/min off just like 300 iron ore/min

I really thought it would take more iron that’s crazy.
I’m also using a small amount of rubber and plastic tho, that makes the iron go a lot farther

[wicked nacelle]

I try to stay away from other resources when iron will suffice. Other than coal for steel.

[viscid bobcat]

fine concrete or molded steel beam?

will I be using steel beams more than concrete?

[willow glen]

Rubber and plastic already on the train network, easy to just borrow a bit

[wicked nacelle]

Both are useful. Pick whichever you need first. If you don’t need either now just wait

[ivory condor]

Solid steel ingots is the true mvp

[topaz shale]

Truly

[topaz shale]

I always make sure to sloop the slugs, for sure. When I build another one of these HMF factories, I'll probably be overlcocking as much as I can but until then, I'll just sloop the HMF.

And it looks like making the computers and circuit boards is gonna be way easier. And burning the extra fuel that it mkes will offset the amount of power that it will take to make the computers in the first place. Very nice.

That will be a tomorrow thing, though. night everyone.

[storm talon]

So one normal coal node with a MK2 miner can feed three smelters, with one set on 85% underclock

Okay.

[dense violet]

don't math by node, because you canalways clock things

math by numbers.

[knotty smelt]

Math is hard

I usually just slap some crap down on the ground and spaghetti stuff together

🍝

[storm talon]

True chad.

[dense violet]

I mean if you don't care about things working well? sure. then don't bother trying to do 'building' math either

[storm talon]

Just slapping things down and spaghetti-ing it all together is how Let's Game It Out's session ended up on their official images lol

I found two quartz nodes and one SAM node near where I'm making my foundry

[placid stirrup]

Doesn't mean there was organization and understanding of the interconnected production lines

[storm talon]

@dense violet sorry for the ping, but I can overclock the two coal nodes by 15% and run eight foundries. Is that correct?

Mmm wait...

No, I've gotta overclock by 40% for each.

Yeah that tracks

[upbeat rain]

I want to change some things in my save using satisfactory-calculator.com.
How can I make sure I don't add or change something by mistake?
Refresh the site and upload a file to change what I want and download it?

[heavy pine]

Phase 3 done, now to get into all the fun of phase 4.

[storm talon]

It's 50%, not 40%

If anyone ever asks.

[dense violet]

go into SCIM's discord, there's a link at the top if you want to know all the ins and outs

[upbeat charm]

If I leave blue power slug for an extended period of time, will it transform into yellow power slug?

[heavy pine]

Nope

[upbeat charm]

unfortunate

[peak wasp]

my mind is blown opening up new phases

[scenic pasture]

man all i want to do is play satisfactory its like the only fun game i have but because of my situation computer wise i literally cant play my save any more

lenovo yoga sim

cant handle anything

my nuclear plant remains abandoned because its no joke 4 fps

now i have to get a JOB 🙄

[upbeat charm]

You seems to find your laptop

Un-Satisfactory

[somber cedar]

@slate python #screenshots message
Hey I was just scrolling through the screenshots and I have to say, please don't make those gigantic space elevator part builds. I also made that mistake.
As soon as I sent the parts, I realised...that build will remain idle forever now. 5-15 per minute instead of 100 should do

[scenic pasture]

indeed

it isnt a satisfactory piece of technology

[white dawn]

On the other hand: golden nuts for days!

[upbeat charm]

You can start your job search with that one

[scenic pasture]

hm?

what one?

[upbeat charm]

Indeed

It's the job search program that happen to have the same word you just typed

so I thought it would be funny to connect the 2 part together

[scenic pasture]

oh lol

[stone python]

coal nuts for nights?

[scenic pasture]

yeah im 14 tho, dont think indeed is a good idea

[upbeat charm]

I can only hope my mid-tier spec can carry me

[scenic pasture]

my towns woolies is hiring

along with a couple roadside cafe

[upbeat charm]

If you can, try some part time on these stores

[scenic pasture]

yeah thats the plan

[upbeat charm]

Not for the money, but to see what the bottom line looks like

[scenic pasture]

yeah

i have a good idea of the bottom line. especially since i live on a farm so i have to get my hands dirty quite often

so a dish pig isnt out of the picture

hoping i get atleast 10 aud an hour

i dont know what bottom line is

$6.50 american

[upbeat charm]

Depends on where you live and whether it's urban or rural

[scenic pasture]

rural

very rural

[upbeat rain]

How do you guys play late game?
I'm almost at the end of Tier 8.
I don't expect my map to look like ImKibitz's but I don't know how to plan everything because I want it to be neat and look serious and I'm willing to invest in it...

[scenic pasture]

in my opinion

just build really big concrete flats

with large elevated concrete foundations

and in the end build a control tower, doesnt have to work none of mine do anything

[silk ocean]

Expand xD Optimize, build megafactories xD

[scenic pasture]

that just look really good, mine literally just controls the nuclear fuel rod shut off production thing and has a hypertube

[upbeat rain]

Do you have an example?
I can't imagine it.

[wicked nacelle]

Sink the parts

[upbeat rain]

This is what I want, but I thought about it. What happens if I overdo it with one production line and then I will be limited in resources for other things?

[faint reef]

Is this the kind of endgame power I will need to finish the game??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbugricB-dI
Because I wont even bother continuig. I wont be something this big lol

[silk ocean]

Well it's a big world, lots of resources xD Not infinite tho

Apart from maybe Water xD

[upbeat rain]

I even want to create the max of each item.
The problem is that if I do it early on, I could theoretically have a shortage later on...

[silk ocean]

Water needs power so also probably limited xD

I guess worry about that later on? xD

[upbeat rain]

I want to build some kind of image in my head now to avoid this.
I follow ImKibitz and what he does is crazy...
I want to do something on his scale...

[silk ocean]

Best get to building, son xD

[daring pawn]

wait guys if you like going fast ingame go into picture mode and zoom out
it doesnt change your speed but you feel faster when moving

[scenic pasture]

sure!

give me 40 years im booting up satisfactory

[wicked nacelle]

Hold down alt to skip warning screens

[silk ocean]

You can skip photo epilepsy with alt?!

[wicked nacelle]

Nitrogen and quartz were my issues.

[high eagle]

Hey guys, my coal generator pipes water is disappering even I didn't turn the generator on, I've try to fix it for like 3 hours, can some help me, maybe watching my dc stream or come into my world and help fixing it. I am kinda new :D

[silk ocean]

Yah xD Shortages

[upbeat rain]

dm me

[scenic pasture]

@upbeat rain check screenshots

[upbeat rain]

What's wrong with the power plant you made?

[scenic pasture]

its just so small

my computer physically cant handle it

i dont even have the WATER HOOKED UP

and its 7-12 fps

and i play on ultra low!

[high eagle]

@upbeat rain I've dm you

[silk ocean]

7-12 fps.. Yikes xD

What is this.. SatisSlideShow xD

[lofty juniper]

we need bullet trains but only for passengers

[silk ocean]

aka... hypercannons xD

My Copper Powder situation is a trainwreck xD

[earnest oak]

what is the tool/website that people use to map out factories

becayse this game really starting to annoy me with efficiency

[silk ocean]

SCIM? 😈

[earnest oak]

idk

scim has been loading for a min now is that normal

[silk ocean]

Loads straight away here

[earnest oak]

how do i change from minermk 3 to mk1

[silk ocean]

Build a Mk1 on it? xD

[earnest oak]

bro idk how this works 😭

[silk ocean]

Go to Builder, select Mk.1

Replace it xD

[willow birch]

Or middle scroll button click down then press e until you get to mk1

[earnest oak]

what water can be impure bro what is this

[willow birch]

Purity refers to how much you can extract

[silk ocean]

No Purity with Water tho? xD

[willow birch]

They’re looking at an extraction node

Not bodies of water

[silk ocean]

Ah okay

[green fiber]

Resource wells, yea

[round vault]

guess who up manually crafting 3600 screws and 300 reinforced iron plates for modular frames

[silk ocean]

Manual? xD

[green fiber]

Skill issue

[silk ocean]

Are you crazy xD

[storm talon]

[reef basin]

Why tho

[round vault]

for fiscit blueprint milestone

[reef basin]

Automate

[round vault]

feels like this is faster

[storm talon]

it is not

[round vault]

alr ill try to automate this

[silk ocean]

Automate xD

[storm talon]

build everything on foundations, trust me.

you will thank yourself later.

[round vault]

alr2

i think ima lowk rebuild all of my factories

[storm talon]

you dont have to. build on top or a little bit away from them

[round vault]

its an actual mess rn

and the world is pretty new so there isnt even that much going on

[storm talon]

foundations will fix the mess.

[round vault]

theyre all on foundations

[silk ocean]

Foundations are Life xD

[storm talon]

also build big towers where your conveyors can go, elevated so they arent in the way.

[round vault]

big towers?

[reef basin]

Not at all

[storm talon]

splitters and mergers are your friends. look up manifolds and balancers

[round vault]

alrite

[reef basin]

You're gonna automate anyway, so any handcrafting time is extra

[storm talon]

@round vault yes. people call them conveyor highways.

just cleans everything up

[round vault]

bet

[reef basin]

Don't think people call splitters and mergers "conveyor highways"

[silk ocean]

Manifolds 4 Life ❤️ Don't tell KYO xD

[ivory condor]

Few can appreciate perfectly balanced sushi

[blissful fable]

i have absolutely no idea what im doing in satisfactory got the game like 2-3 days ago and i have no clue what im doing because i literally just started

[dense violet]

normal. Just keep going forward 🙂

and upwards, and always twirling, TWIRLING towards freedom!

[shy mulch]

just follow what it tells you to do, phase 0 is a tutorial that really guides you through everything, read what it says

[dense violet]

the milestones are your guide.
also the MAM building

[silk ocean]

1400 hours later xD

[ivory condor]

Good time to turn you to the dark side of mods

[blissful fable]

im at tier 2 on the milestone i know it have to automate stuff but i have no idea how to make a "factory"

[blissful fable]

i wanna enjoy the base game abit first then jump in with mods

[storm talon]

I'm building a giant bus highway to take some pure iron deposits and a pure limestone deposit down from the highlands back to my foundry.

[silk ocean]

I've never used a mod xD

[dense violet]

i highly recommend going through all the tiers at least once before modding

also you're in the pre tutorial, just make lines of machines that make stuff. That's a factory

[storm talon]

such a pain, but nicely rewarding.

[ivory condor]

How could you😇

[storm talon]

I haven't even touched the milestone that gives you MK.4 logistics yet. Too busy trying to get this foundry running

might regret that later, c'est la vie.

[silk ocean]

By never using a mod? xD

[storm talon]

Vanilla Satisfactory is incredibly good. Mods can make it better but I haven't found the urge to use them yet.

[ivory condor]

Fine, thats more mods for me

[blissful fable]

i have 11 hrs on the game i have zero clue how make a semi functioning line the closest i got was a screw line and even then that was terrible

[storm talon]

@blissful fable Look up manifolds and balancers.

[dense violet]

that's normal. Unlock coal power and get out of the tutorial

[dense violet]

also, use a calculator and some paper or a spreadsheet. Just do some basic maths. All the numbers per min that the recipes need are there

[blissful fable]

i have the satisfactory calculator open on a browser but idk how to turn that into something that resembles what i have in my head

[storm talon]

There's a calculator?

[dense violet]

tools is a bit more user friendly.

just turn off SAM ore from the inputs

what do yo uwant to make?

reinforced plates?

[dense violet]

example https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=8Mp6zXGs1UkIJED8vPnc

[ivory condor]

Yes but don't tell anyone, its top secret

Well the secret is ruined now...its over

[storm talon]

[fiery pewter]

Ooohh
Birb as name

[blissful fable]

usually i have a friend that has played a game and has a reasonable amount of hours like accouple hundred and they usually teach me some stuff that can get me through the early stages but i don't have that in this instance

so im going in like a blind parrot that cant fly and only tells inappropriate jokes

and swears like a soldier, sailor and construction worker put together

[exotic pilot]

can nitrogen gas go into a fluid freight platform

[daring reef]

most likely yeah

[exotic pilot]

uhm ill wait on a more definate answer

[boreal musk]

gas is also a fluid, so yes

[exotic pilot]

W

[daring reef]

there is a rule i go abt in games if it makes sense IT HAS to be true

and if its not

the game sucks

[blissful fable]

every game logic ever

[exotic pilot]

but like i was thinking fluids as liquids so then i didnt know if it will work or not

[blissful fable]

fair point

[modest nest]

Just wait until you find out about waste water

[exotic pilot]

huh

[daring reef]

fluids in definition is gases and liquids

[modest nest]

Intentional no makey sense as game challenge

[daring reef]

scientifically speaking

[exotic pilot]

i didnt know that

[daring reef]

just loop it back

[modest nest]

Yeah but that can cause issues

Just an unnecessary headache to make the game more difficult

[daring reef]

it never caused issues for me

i did it for my aluminium production

[modest nest]

Which is nice but not realistic, then again we are on an alien planet and I have a pocket dimension

[daring pawn]

wish the little gauge thing on the pipes made sounds as they opened/closed
the little things, that, for a lack of better words, pulse as liquid flows through
it would be pretty cool if they made like clicking sounds ykwim

[modest nest]

That would be kinda cool however I think the audio clutter would be painful with a lot of pipes

[daring pawn]

maybe a sound toggle or something
but i just wanna hear those things clicking together as theyre working

[daring reef]

i dont I already mute most game sounds

[daring pawn]

when you have batteries on a grid do they add to the max power draw capacity as they fill or?

[modest nest]

I play without a headset most of the time

[modest nest]

I think they charge off excess power in the grid

[daring pawn]

yeah but im not sure how they work when theyre needed

like do they just add onto the grid when its needed or kick on when the grid dies

[true mulch]

No, they charge from excess production (max 100 MW per) and make up the difference between production and consumption if you aren't producing enough (unlimited MW until discharged)

Everything is automatic

[daring pawn]

thankye

[daring reef]

it has unlimited MW

u can power ur whole grid on 1 for a couple seconds

[exotic pilot]

you can turn batteries into power?

[daring reef]

until it runs out

[true mulch]

No, they meant power storage

[modest nest]

Yeah they discharge when your grid isn't producing enough

[true mulch]

Batteries (the item) are only vehicle fuel

[exotic pilot]

oh

[daring reef]

i wouldnt recommend having power storage for anything except maybe ur power plant

something that needs to be powered or else failure

[true mulch]

Huh, just have a global grid

[exotic pilot]

is it bad that i have 1 grid for everything

[true mulch]

Don't waste time building too many power storages though, as they're only a temporary solution to having low power

Until you get to tier 8 and deal with fluctuating consumption

[true mulch]

Good, actually

[exotic pilot]

k

[daring pawn]

im crafting a giant fuel plant thatll make 7x as much power as i already do make

[exotic pilot]

dang

how much do you make now

[peak wasp]

Should I bother making a coal plant or keep using biofuel until I get oil

[true mulch]

Get away from biofuel asap

[peak wasp]

Even with the mam upgrades?

[true mulch]

Huh?

You have to feed it manually still

Coal is fully automatic

[peak wasp]

True

How many motors should I try and automate per minute

[true mulch]

32-64 coal generators before you get to oil

[exotic pilot]

1.2k

[exotic pilot]

WHat i only had like 6

[true mulch]

About 10. When you get to motors, make them from scratch for motors

[peak wasp]

I feel like I'd need at least 20 to 30 motors per minute

[true mulch]

If you make 30, you can use 20 for motors

As soon as it'll pile up in storage it won't matter how much you're producing per min

[peak wasp]

60 rotors per minute and 30 motors per minute

[true mulch]

Huuuge overkill

[daring reef]

yeah

connect them all

or nvm

[exotic pilot]

huh

[true mulch]

What

[daring reef]

u can make a pweor grid for everything but its tediuos

it is good but tedius to make

[true mulch]

How is it in any way tedious

[exotic pilot]

what if 1 breaks bruh

[daring reef]

its just tedius to make a poewr plant for everything u need

but it is good as if 1 breaks ur entire production doesnt stop

[exotic pilot]

but you gotta find it

id rather make a fat power plant

[daring pawn]

i know theres at least one youtuber ive seen that has a big power room to display separate power grids in one area

[daring reef]

it does make power boosts less effective

[exotic pilot]

power what

[daring reef]

u will find out later

sombersloops have an amazing use check ur mam

[exotic pilot]

ok

oh that

the augmenters or the 2x thing

[daring reef]

augmenter

10% power boost is way better than the 500MW for me

though i have had multiple times where everything broke cuase i ran out of power and had to build a new power plant

while everything fails

[exotic pilot]

just watch your power tho

[daring reef]

i cant be bothered

[exotic pilot]

ye but like 3 seconds to look at power after you built something compared to like 20 bagillion years building something with no power

[daring pawn]

ok so i broke my legs and then my game went black, then white, and then crashed

[leaden turret]

don't play while snowboarding

[harsh fog]

is there a way to copy color swatch from like present buildings?

[green fiber]

no but you can copy the entire building with middle mouse

that copies all settings - including color, recipes, overclocking - you name it

[harsh fog]

noted, you cant do that with pipes huh?

[shy mulch]

yes works with pipes and belts too

[green fiber]

it works with everything

[harsh fog]

i cant do it for some reason, it might have something to do with the bp i downloaded?

[silk coyote]

Hey. My last save is from October 14th 2024. Shall I continue with it or were there any significant changes since then that would make starting over easier than fixing everything?

[green fiber]

you can sample BPs if you switch build moe first i think - like enter dismantle mode, switch to blueprint dismantle mode with R, then try middle mouse

but usually, for bps if you want them all to have the same color - you would just color the BP accordingly

[green fiber]

that was still Update 1.0 i think
you shouldnt need a new save - there werent any major reworks to most things

[silk coyote]

Yes, that was my 1.0 playthrough. I started over when it released

[green fiber]

the factory numbers didnt change since then

[silk coyote]

So no re-balancing to nodes?

[green fiber]

nothing should break

[silk coyote]

thanks

[silk coyote]

Everything should be broken in the way I left it :D

[fluid sapphire]

balancing 8:17

i figure the simplest way would be to split the 8 into 16, then collect overflow from everything to form the 17th split and it should work great. but i am wondering.. would the system work itself out if i collected the overflow from the initial 8 to form the 17th belt, then split the 8 to 16? - the goal is to evenly unload freight platforms

[shy mulch]

lots of possible ways, some better than others for different needs
how important is

• the 17 all being equal
• preserving max throughput

in your example, why would there be any overflow? what's the bottleneck?

[fluid sapphire]

the 17 will run into ISCs, which will run into machines that use the amount that this ratio will provide

the machines provide the bottleneck

[shy mulch]

ok, so if the total input is matching or exceeding the required materials, then surely a manifold would deal with this sufficiently?

if you need to preserve max throughput, that can be done with multiple manifolds

take each of the N (in this case 8) and feed it into a M-length (in this case 17-length) manifold
so you'll have 8 manifolds each of length 17
if you want to speed up the pre-filling feeding in alternating directions
then each of the 17 nodes, merge them back together 8:1 and feed into that output

[fluid sapphire]

my primary concern is that the train unloads as fast as possible and fucks off 😄

[cedar portal]

I wish there was a way to delete items that have clipped into the terrain without needing to use an external save editor.

[shy mulch]

so each of the 8 train outputs feeds into its own 17-length manifold
then 1st node of each of the 8 manifolds, merge those 8:1 and feed into 1st ISC
2nd node of each of the 8 manifolds, merge those 8:1 and feed into 2nd ISC etc.

[fluid sapphire]

your phrasing makes it sound like this is somehow simpler 😄

[cedar portal]

Easiest way to make sure each train unloads is tto put a double storage container fed by twin beltts at each of the docking stations.

[fluid sapphire]

sure, in isolation, but at the other end of those containers are machines

meaning these containers would need to be emptied evenly, and here we are

so instead it makes more sense to put the containers after the split

[sterile blade]

Points at balancer mod used to feed manufacturers with one belt
Look at what they need, to mimic a fraction of our power!

[cedar portal]

I'm not sure I follow. What's your priority here? WWhat is the problem you are trying to solve that isn't solved by just throwing buffers next to each unload station?

[fluid sapphire]

i have 8 freight platforms, and 17 machines that consume the imported resources, if i did nothing to balance this, some platforms empty sooner than others, and my train will only unload if there is room in every platform. this means that it takes longer for the train to unload, increasing trip time

my goal is to have the shortest possible trip time

i need this, because i have 21 trains at a single location

[cedar portal]

Easiest solution is still to put buffers at each train station.

[ashen tulip]

hey, is it possible to complete this game without having an engineering degree?

[fluid sapphire]

well, no, this does not solve the problem

those platforms will only be emptied if there is room in those containers

[cedar portal]

Buffers and set the train to just do a singlee unload. It will just keep making trips

[fluid sapphire]

i cant have my trains doing trips willy nilly

there are too many of them

[modest nest]

Im 3 hours into this save and I still have 3 biomass burners

[sterile blade]

You can just eyeball the contents of belts and use some elementary school math to get through it all with relative ease (arguably, the math part can be skipped entirely if you're good enough at eyeballing)

[cedar portal]

I spent a good amount of time yesterrday trying to make my train cars unload evenly and came to the conclusion that it's just not possible. They will eventually unbalance no matter what you do.

[fluid sapphire]

literally balancers though?

i have made them for most of the stuff i import already

its just the iron ore imports left

[sterile blade]

Sounds like a #math-and-meta thing ^^

[fluid sapphire]

it is i guess

[ashen tulip]

yeah, but i want to get through space elevator phase 1 to get to coal and the spaghetti is already beggining to rise and ist imposiible to get 100% efficiency

[cedar portal]

Yes, even with balancers. The belts between stations will never be 100% teh samee length which means when items start flowing after a train unload onee station will ALWAYS be first and get an extra item snuck through and that station will eventually empty faster.

[blissful fable]

thank you for showing me this i finally have a item automation finally that works

[sterile blade]

"Just" choke the output of the problematic freights?

[fluid sapphire]

i dont see what belt length has anything to do with this, before i turn it all on, all the belts will be saturated, thus flow will be balanced

[sterile blade]

100% efficiency is not required to achieve anything. But if you do like to pursue that, then you will need some math

[fluid sapphire]

wym

[sterile blade]

Make balancers to make sure the freights only output up to a certain throughput (thus take longer to empty)

[cedar portal]

I'm still confused what the problem is. One car isn't unloading fast enough?

[sterile blade]

I write "just" with the quotes because wether that's simple to do or not obviously depends on the numbers involved (it's just simple to think about it, practically it could be a huge mess)

[fluid sapphire]

i have 6 stations involved in this, each with 8 platforms, i will experience major congestion if my trains dont leave on time

some of those trips are also quite long

so i need quick turnaround time

[sterile blade]

Do you know how much each freight needs?

(I'm not asking for the numbers, just wether you're well aware of them all)

[fluid sapphire]

595 ore via 8 platforms, into 17 machines equally

[cedar portal]

Do these train supply any other factories or just this one?

[fluid sapphire]

they go between source station and this factory, every single one

[cedar portal]

Ok, so this is the only destination for ore for these trains?

[sterile blade]

Can you use that to extrapolate how long the trains should stay at the station?
If yes, you could just set the trains to stay there that long

I really feel like this would be best moved to #math-and-meta, possibly with some graphs ^^

[cedar portal]

I'm still not seeing the problem. If you place a double container at the output of each train unloader, where is the congestion if a train sits for some extra time? Your machines shouldn't run out of ore because of the buffers.

Pictures might help yeah 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

math and meta time

[peak wasp]

evening pioneers, do certain paints, lag a bit more?

[dense turtle]

paints?

like ur saying if u paint ur machine red its gonna lag more?

[peak wasp]

yeah

[dense turtle]

well im not sure but i really doubt it

[peak wasp]

like chrome, maybe it reflects more, dunno\

[dense turtle]

idk but i know that light lags as hell

i got a lamp over my factory and i get like 20 fps in there

[peak wasp]

damn

[subtle swan]

whenever i want to bind a blueprint ot a hotbar it will change to the paint finish for somereason. is this a bug?

[peak wasp]

do you have any pics of your factory?

[dense turtle]

its nothing impressive

im still a beginner

[peak wasp]

i just wanted to see how big it was

not started laging yet

[dense turtle]

but im saying that im only lagging with celling lamps flashing over my buildings

but if u wanna know it wasnt a factory but a storage room

with many belts with items

still only lags wit light

#screenshots

[peak wasp]

that is big 🙂

I just unlocked oil, and I knock down my factory and rebuild a fair bit

[dense turtle]

yeah i also was rebuilding my old factories

because they sucked really bad

even tho big heads here are saying "keep old build new, your future self will thank u" or sum

[peak wasp]

haha
it does get better every time, though! so worth it

[dense turtle]

#screenshots this is prob my biggest build, 5 computers and 5 heavy modular frames per minute

[unkempt blade]

that's quite the wall of storage

[dense turtle]

so is there anyway i could only transfer 2 items per minute out of a container?

[unkempt blade]

Probably not easily at least unless the belt you're sending it to only consumes 2 of that item downstream. Otherwise, if there's room in the container you're transfering from you could use splitters and mergers to only send 1/30 of a mk1 belt in one direction and all the rest back into the container

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/c21suu/unit_fractions_splitters/ this doesn't have a 1/30 but you could figure it out from there

[dense turtle]

maybe i will just split half into manufacturer and half into container

[placid lake]

I just got to coal power, is it easier to build the coal power plant at the water source, or the coal source?

[dense turtle]

water source

[peak wasp]

water source

[dense turtle]

definetly

[placid lake]

because conveyer belts are cheaper?

[peak wasp]

I just cart the coal over

[dense turtle]

factory cart?

[placid lake]

I dont know what a factory cart is

[peak wasp]

oh, sorry, conveyer

[unkempt blade]

in general at least it's usually going to be easier to move solids than liquids in this game

[dense turtle]

i heard factory carts are better than mk6 belts heh 😼

🤮

[unkempt blade]

you heard right, my friend! 😆

[peak wasp]

I have so many ideas popping in my head on how to design my factories now that I know how to be efficient

[unkempt blade]

it's the oompa loompa of vehicles and it's both amazing and adorable, you can get it from the awesome shop

[placid lake]

ok ty

[dense turtle]

yeah yesterday i thought about creating a factory with one big sushi belt and smart splitters

but it cant be a big factory since even if i used mk6 its still only 1200 items

[peak wasp]

sushi train!

[silk ocean]

1 Manufacturer is not enough nuke nobelisks xD

[shy mulch]

at 250% with sloops it probably is sufficient

[silk ocean]

I ran out of sloops xD

I got them in Notepad++ xD

[latent hearth]

did they increase the amount of slugs and mercer spheres cuz I thought there were less than there are rn

[reef basin]

Why so?

[shy mulch]

I'd love to know why too, seems a pointless thing to do

[unkempt blade]

sometimes you gotta trickle that concrete into your depot so your friends don't get spoiled, makes sense to me

[fluid sapphire]

there were 2 patches post launch that respawned all slugs/spheres and sloops - so many people have more than it was originally possible

[frail sleet]

you can put a 60 belt on the output and a splitter web to have one belt of 2 going out, and one belt of 58 merging back together and going into the back of the container

but a lot easier to just put only 2/min into it 😛

unless you only want to drain 2/min even when the container is full

[unkempt blade]

Yeah that was why I linked the fractional splitter post. I think standard wisdom is there's not a lot of reason to meter the output like that (just send it all and use overflow rules) but if he actually wants 2/min for some reason the splitter/merger setup is how you'd get there

[sterile blade]

That's my objective for my next factory: have a factory for all items, with the whole output fitting on a MK6 belt or less.
Personally, I find that plenty enough for my building uses (the output would pretty much just feed storages/depots for personal use)

"All items" except spelevator parts

[frail sleet]

For a lot of stuff yes Ven, but for a couple items like Concrete i upload 1200/min or more.

just on one item

[sterile blade]

I don't think I've ever uploaded more than 2 Depots' worth of one item...
But I reckon that my dislike for long repetitions of the same task kinda helps in this ^^ (I don't like to eg just build foundations for an hour, I usually find other things to do in the meantime to not get bored)

[frail sleet]

to be able to dump foundation blueprints as quickly as i can place them ingame with no resource limit, it will drain the 5 stacks in the buffer within a couple of seconds and sustained consumption can actually go up to 30,000/min.

1200 is just the "mostly fine unless you're doing something insane" number, and 240 is a severe limitation for endgame

[unkempt blade]

the more I use blueprints the more I tear through the depot's stockpile 😆

especially now with the larger blueprinters

[azure linden]

#screenshots message Alu processing plant in progress

[sterile blade]

"Big consumers" also have big stack sizes (500 or 200), so even bringing some along manually can become quite convenient (one "grab" equals a lot of buildings placed), especially of the rest of the inventory is already free thanks to depots!

[frail sleet]

Yes but i placed 100,000 foundations in maybe an hour

that's 700,000 concrete i.e. 1400 inventory slots, at a rate of 11,667 per min (49 dimensional depots with 10 dedicated mk.6 belts).

I did it with build costs disabled but some people want to make something at 1/10'th of this scale or speed, and still not run out of concrete constantly. They need to upload 1200 concrete/min, and if they have 120/min it would take 10 hours instead of 1 hour to make 10k foundations.

[azure linden]

meanwhile me with 1500 slots

yes, i really want to take everything i might need, and more :kekw:

[ivory condor]

I have to mod depot storage sizes, because my megaprints are beyond what default limits can handle

[wet dirge]

water source

[unkempt blade]

pre-depot I'd load up a train and take it with me where ever I wanted to build for big projects 😆

[green fiber]

average megaprint user experience:

[azure linden]

let's just say rn i have almost 12k copper sheets with me xD

[ivory condor]

Indeed

[sterile blade]

I might actually enjoy the trips for Concrete just to break up such a big placement IF I were in such a situation, ngl 😅
Different solutions for different preferences, all allowed by the game

[wet dirge]

fr

im working on my mid game coal power rn

[azure linden]

@unkempt blade here's what i'm building now btw

[wet dirge]

the problem is rotors and reinforced platting

i have automated

but to slow

[fluid sapphire]

mid game? coal power is hardly mid game

[wet dirge]

100k

[fluid sapphire]

wot

[sterile blade]

Average Vencam-doing-belt-tests-experience

[wet dirge]

100k production its alot of power

[placid lake]

I am trying to rebind a key combination to "right+scroll up" but it keeps setting it to "left+scroll up" in error .... anyone know a way to fix this issue?

[fluid sapphire]

100k what

[wet dirge]

power

[fluid sapphire]

megawatts?

[wet dirge]

yes

[fluid sapphire]

why on earth would you produce that with coal

[wet dirge]

i just finnished early game

[wet dirge]

blueprints

[fluid sapphire]

its not worth it

[wet dirge]

it makes it easy

[wet dirge]

a cupple hrs only

[sterile blade]

The amount of piping needed is... Quite something

[fluid sapphire]

its nuts

and all the coal you need for that

[azure linden]

@fluid sapphire big brains think alike xDD

[sterile blade]

@wet dirge DFor clarity, did you mean 100 MW or 100k MW?

[fluid sapphire]

there is no shot you are building 100 000 megawatts with COAL in a couple of hours

[wet dirge]

oh for the coal i just overclock alot of pure nods

[wet dirge]

like 10 hrs mabby more not sure

[wet dirge]

100k

[fluid sapphire]

you literally need 20 000 coal for that

[wet dirge]

yes

[wet dirge]

i think

[azure linden]

jesus christ, it's 1333,333333 generators, or 533,333 oc'ed

[sterile blade]

That's about 60k Water/min...

[fluid sapphire]

you cant even extract that much coal at that point in the game, from the entire map

[green fiber]

Average coal power enjoyer:

[azure linden]

[wet dirge]

no

[wet dirge]

sweet sweet polution

[sterile blade]

100'000 MW / 75 MW

[azure linden]

100000MW/75MW (base coal gen)

[sterile blade]

Bump

[dense turtle]

sir is that even possible

[azure linden]

or 100000MW / 187.5MW if overclocked

[dense turtle]

how u gon make 60k water/minute

[fluid sapphire]

actually i think you might be able to, but you will need literally all the coal on the map

[wet dirge]

why did u put 533,333 oc

[azure linden]

it's just impossible

[fluid sapphire]

LITERALLY all of it

[ivory condor]

Just use all 42.3k coal in the world

[wet dirge]

i have them all

[wet dirge]

LIKE all of them

[fluid sapphire]

you still need coal to make steel my guy

[azure linden]

damn, we got a psychopath here lmao

[fluid sapphire]

big time haha

[wet dirge]

i can spair some xd

[ivory condor]

When you decide to use all the coal in the world for power, because who needs steel

[green fiber]

Theres enough coal on the map.... for 211 GW (or 211 k MW for the funny guys)

[sterile blade]

Just 200 MK1 pipes, 400 Extractors and 1200 Power Shards. No sweat~

[wet dirge]

yes

[fluid sapphire]

the amount of headache and pain you will experience building this, will burn you out, i guarantee you, it isnt worth scaling up coal power to that point, when some time later you can get a lot more power for 1% of the effort

[wet dirge]

fr

[green fiber]

You know fuel gens exist right

They also pollute

[wet dirge]

i agree

[wet dirge]

dont have

or idk

[green fiber]

You'll get it later

[fluid sapphire]

just make enough coal power to get you to fuel power

[wet dirge]

i gotta connect 19 more rq

[fluid sapphire]

then make enough fuel power to get you to rocket fuel or nuclear, then its much easier to scale up to 100GW

[wet dirge]

its only like 500 or somin bc overclocked

[ivory condor]

You missed the guy who made that i think it was 20gw biomass burner plant, and that was pre 1.0 so it was all hand fed to

[fluid sapphire]

im curious to see screenshots if you actually manage to build this insanity in its 100GW scale

[wet dirge]

its so big i have brain dmg by looking at it

[wet dirge]

when i look at it a nearly crash....

[vale grotto]

Y'know, with the right alts, you can make every component in the game that's not a personal equipment without any coal in your production lines
So maybe this is just a really unhinged challenge run to use all the coal for power!!

[wet dirge]

i had friends help me btw 12

[ivory condor]

What if I made it for the memes

[wet dirge]

brb

[lost wagon]

is there a hotkey to open directly the blueprint menu that I am not aware of

[dense turtle]

wait so if i sloop a machine i use the same amount of resources for x2 outputs?

[lost wagon]

yes

[sterile blade]

You use a bit more power (thus resources needed to make power)

Well, considerably more power actually

[ivory condor]

I just did the math I could make a 211gw coal plant, let's do it

[lost wagon]

power stops being an issue once rocket fuel is on the table

[sterile blade]

I don't think so, but you can add blueprints to your hot keys at least

[dense turtle]

yeah im working towards rocket fuel

[ivory condor]

2820 coal generators sounds exciting

[dense turtle]

i built everything just to realise i need sulfur acid or sum like that

[sterile blade]

Power stops being an issue once you build proper power :P

[fluid sapphire]

do it, just do it

[wet dirge]

um i made a mastake....

[wet dirge]

i just leaked metal into all coal matines

[sterile blade]

Let him finish his maximized nuclear project first!

[wet dirge]

o well

[fluid sapphire]

nice, good luck

[hallow crystal]

rip

[vale grotto]

At that point I'd just reload a save

[fluid sapphire]

thats another problem with mega scale insanity projects

[wet dirge]

i didnt my friend didxd

[hallow crystal]

I did the same with my steel factory, compromising the iron with concrete

[fluid sapphire]

if you fuck up somehow, big problem

[wet dirge]

who wants his location

i have it right beside me

[ivory condor]

About that, my pre 1.0 factories are still broke and I still need to fix them

You know because they changed those nuclear rod production recipes, so those factories dont work anymore

[sterile blade]

How would I know, I always built nuclear using Rotors... >.>

[ivory condor]

But what about my 50.4/min rod production

[topaz shale]

I completely forgot about liquid biofuel being better for jetpacks.

[dense turtle]

better than normal fuel?

[topaz shale]

That's what I heard. At least in terms of burn time.

[sterile blade]

Is it that hard to replace the beacons input with a rotor one?
I actually considered it for my SFR place and it wouldn't be a TONS of work, so long as I put the rotor production outside (basically leaving the interior untouched and sinking the belts previously going into beacons' manufacturers to keep things running)

[topaz shale]

According to the wiki, liquid biofuel for jetpacks burns longer, lets you fly longer and have a higher height. Just can't be fully automated.

[ivory condor]

hmmm i need to look at it more

[dense turtle]

wait i just saw this recipe nitro rocket fuel is that better? i already set up all the turbofuel plants

for base rocket fuel recipe

[lost wagon]

the show clearance setting can be disabled for buildings but not for blueprints, it's making building a pain in the ass with all these white boxes

[sterile blade]

Though it's worth pointing out that, so long as one uses it only for the jetpack, it's quite easy to make a stockpiles that will never be depleted (~1 ISC?)

[lost wagon]

I guess the only option is not using blueprint connect bleh

[river furnace]

Im trying to make the jump from ~12k MW to 350k, with the most Sulphur and overall efficient way to make rocket fuel

[ivory condor]

btw https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Ur0Sf1DDz4zy3QGQueVO i truly hate the production planner sometimes, its using 100% bauxite to turn that into uranium, rather than using the uranium the world currently has, dear god send help why is it doing this

you know im just turning off sam usage, this is so stupid....

[sterile blade]

Yep, converters recipes should always be off... like crystal concrete

[topaz shale]

Which is exactly what I'm using it for. Is it a good idea to sloop the bio fuel line for liquid biofuel?

[sterile blade]

If you can spare the Sloops, I think it's worth slooping anything made with stuff that you have to manually collect (and all following production steps too ofc)

[ivory condor]

I see your point, its currently trying to use 8400/min bauxite to make that into uranium, rather than using the uranium the world naturally has, really don't ask me why

[sterile blade]

That's exactly what makes it easy to have lots of biofuel now, actually ^^

[ivory condor]

seriously why would anybody want to use 8400/min to make 2100 uranium, this makes no sense.....

[hallow crystal]

WhatDarrenPlays did a video in his let's play series where he slooped everything bio-related and made an insane amount of liquid biofuel

[heavy pine]

SAM is rare enough as it is. It seems wasteful to use it to convert stuff into other stuff.

[sterile blade]

Yeah, it seems to always prefer the converted recipes... Might be because of how resources are valued, so it ends up "spending less" by using one resource + SAM + power instead of another one

[topaz shale]

This is actually a big reason why I much prefer to use the satisfactory modeler.

[sterile blade]

I used to run a 10 GW Liquid Biofuel powerplant up to Nuclear... Something that I would have never even considered doing before 1.0 😆

[heavy pine]

I like how Satisfactory Tools will tell you how much stuff you can make with a given amount of input resources ("How much of the Tier 0-4 stuff can I produce with 900 iron ore?") but I like Satisfactory Calculator's ability to read the unlocked alt recipes from my save.

[ivory condor]

well normally the planner isnt this dumb

[sterile blade]

I used to like using SCIM for the map (and only that). But then it got a bit too... greedy filled with ads 🙄

[topaz shale]

It does the same thing to me all the time. It's not bad to use. Just have to manually click around the settings to get the results you need.

[topaz shale]

Honestly I still use it for that but I dislike the calculator in it.

[ivory condor]

aka turn off sam usage, because this all makes no sense

[heavy pine]

Easiest to tell it you have 0 SAM available, unless of course you're working on a factory to build stuff that actually uses SAM.

[sterile blade]

I liked the look of the calculator, but ever since I saw it make a mistake I've been like: nope nope nope nope nope nope!

[ivory condor]

not just that, but using scim for editing saves is dangerous to

[sterile blade]

Tbh, I kinda assume something like that to be inherently risky 😅

[unkempt blade]

you're not deleting your backup save before you see if the edited save works, right?... right? 😆

[ivory condor]

you would assume correctly

[sterile blade]

You guys delete savefiles?!

[hard ivy]

I'd argue that Tools using SAM to make uranium is still less annoying than SCIM using completely random recipes for basically everything you ask it to make

Tools at least optimizes for lowest % of world resources used

SCIM optimizes for money from ads

[unkempt blade]

I have it save quite a few more than I normally need and it automatically backs those up to google drive lol

[ivory condor]

Well all the saves works, if you like single digit frame rates, along with the worst frame times I have ever seen at 200+ ms

pretty awesome to reach frame times that reach 2/10 of a second, this is all obviously fine

[unkempt blade]

I basically only use it to turn ficsmas on all year so I wouldn't know about that

[lost wagon]

personal elevator can only have the entrance in one side, right?

[green fiber]

no, you can spin it

if you mean "one entrance per floor" then yes

[lost wagon]

yes but I mean like, can it have entrance in all 4 sides

[green fiber]

Nope, that is not possible i believe

[ivory frost]

is there a mod that makes constructors visually construct what they are making? Id love to see the parts being made instead of the same old placeholder.
On the same note, do you know of any other mods that dont change the game but just make it feel nicer? I'm on my first playthrough so I dont wanna distort it in any way

[lost wagon]

cmon ficsit, even irl we have elevators with 2 entrances smh my head

[fossil ice]

Official Modding Discord

@ivory frost Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @sterile blade

[ivory frost]

thank you

[lost wagon]

don't think there is a mod for that tho

[ivory frost]

what a bummer! best mod :(

[unkempt blade]

this wouldn't help with the animation but you could slap a sign on the side and give it an item icon

I don't bother doing that on a per-constructor basis but I do like signs at the end of rows of things

[ivory frost]

fair

ye its just when im opening my new line I love to travel with the items and go though every step to see how its doing and seeing the parts being constructed would add so much character to it imo

[frail sleet]

I've been building something for over 200hrs which i haven't turned on yet, gonna be an insane hour when i do that and check up on everything

[slate python]

But I don’t want to wait for ever

[ivory frost]

Ummm

[violet moat]

satishfaktury

[unkempt blade]

they're good for coupons if you point them at a sink when you don't need them 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

You will spend a lot more time building those factories than you would waiting for a smaller factory to produce the required amounts

[unkempt blade]

yeah but think of the coupons!

[fluid sapphire]

By the time those manifolds are full and you are actually producing 100 per minute, you'll have already produced 100 times more than you need for the entire game

Probably

[unkempt blade]

but golden statues! must collect them all!

[fluid sapphire]

Probably get more coupons if they invested that time later into building more advanced parts instead

But yes, I also want enough golden nuts to fill all my hand equipment slots

This just isn't the way to go

[unkempt blade]

I think my only actual recommendation would be alt recipes that use less copper

but if they're flush with copper 2400 isn't too insane on a global scale I guess

[fluid sapphire]

A drop in the global bucket

[boreal musk]

that 100/min wiring is not even a quarter of 2/min bwd

10/min is already overkill for your current phase

[unkempt blade]

the important thing is if the build is fun for the player though 🤷‍♂️

that's why sandbox games are great

[fluid sapphire]

True, if they want to use low tier belts to make gigantic builds then who can stop them

[bright magnet]

is the pipe connection bug getting fixed in the next update?

[fluid sapphire]

Which bug is that

[fluid sapphire]

What are you talking about, I just put 2 BWD into the planner and automated wiring isn't even anywhere in the chain?

[mortal ginkgo]

BWD does not need them yes. Biochemical bois do.

[sterile blade]

Why not?
Surely it doesn't take like... tons of work that needs rework as soon as you adjust any number, right?
*sighs in #screenshots message *

[fluid sapphire]

2 sculptors/min requires 5 automated wiring/min with no alts, nowhere near the insanity that is 400 per minute

[mortal ginkgo]

Yup. Dunno if they meant the automated wiring or just.. Wires.

[dense cave]

guys where can i find my ficsit cart?

[mortal ginkgo]

awesome shop

[dense cave]

where do i build it?

cant find in the building page

[fluid sapphire]

Do you actually go through the menu whenever you build anything

[dense cave]

well sometimes

if its not on my hotbar?

[fluid sapphire]

Search bar

[dense cave]

right

[fluid sapphire]

Much faster to find things

[dense cave]

i see

right, its an equipment

[boreal musk]

point wise

[fluid sapphire]

Couldn't tell you which sub menu it's under but it's much faster to find stuff with the search bar if you know the name of what you are looking for

[boreal musk]

i never talked about the production line

[fluid sapphire]

Maybe I'm a bit silly but that wasn't clear to me

But yeah, 1000% not worth making that sort of factory

[fluid sapphire]

Aah, perhaps, I haven't built any myself

[dense cave]

i drove my ficsit cart off the cliff💯

[fluid sapphire]

Which is a crime, and I will, eventually

[dense cave]

my death crate is stuck in the middle of the void

[fluid sapphire]

My elevator part factory will have carts

[dense cave]

at one kind of phase do ppl actually start building walled buildings?

with allat elevator shitz

[fluid sapphire]

I don't actually like walls much myself, I build semi-open

[unkempt blade]

yeah as part of a BP it's not so bad but just ad hoc signs are a bit tedious sometime

[mortal ginkgo]

#screenshots message

Phase 0 because I wanted it to look pretty. Yes I am insane. Doh'.

[fluid sapphire]

Phase 4, mk5 belts allow big scale

[topaz shale]

Depends on the factory and how you design it. I start using foundations for my factories pretty much immediately and since I haven't had the need to make the elevator parts as it's own factory, they haven't gotten large either.

[unkempt blade]

it's worth it to see a factory's in/out or a large area/row but not for every single thing

[fluid sapphire]

Understandable

[mortal ginkgo]

See, you get me brother. 😭

[dense cave]

mk5 on... phase 4?

[topaz shale]

I really enjoy making tower factories. Especially for seperating out what each floor does and has. It's a neat way for me to play.

[dense cave]

oh nvm

i thought its milestones

[topaz shale]

I'm still working on phase 3 and I'm like 50 hours in on my save. Taking my time lol

Also, liquid biofuel. Really amazing for exploration.

[dense cave]

how do you automate wood and leaves harvesting?

[topaz shale]

You don't. I'll just harvest more when I need to.

[mortal ginkgo]

Harvesting animals give ridiculous amount of biomass

[topaz shale]

Though a few trees worth of wood and leaves makes enough biofuel for a while.

[topaz shale]

That too. My little setup includes that, which I really need to start using.

[dense cave]

oh

😔

[hard ivy]

After coal, you only really need biomass for jetpack fuel and for opening drop pods if you don't have the APA yet

[dense cave]

i mean surely automated manufacture of just normal packed fuel is equally good

[hard ivy]

For jetpack? Not even close

[topaz shale]

Yeah I incorrectly made a bunch of regular fuel for my jetpack and after getting biofuel just recently, I just sunk the entire container worth of fuel for bio. Felt great.

[dense cave]

right-

[mortal ginkgo]

liquid biofuel is truly superior considering how much time it takes to burn

[unkempt blade]

the jetpack fuels have different characteristics but they're all pretty adequate for exploration

[dense cave]

considered, ig ima become Onceler again

[topaz shale]

Using animals for the biomass, since you are exploring, you are going to come across a lot of them so plenty of opportunities to turn them into a ton of biofuel.

[upbeat charm]

What's the strategy to deal with spitter

the one that spawn bugs

[topaz shale]

Hit till kill

[unkempt blade]

but I need to turn those into coupons!

[hard ivy]

And with sloops in every production step, 1 remains turns into 533.333 packaged liquid biofuel lol

[ruby mountain]

crouch

[topaz shale]

Yeah it is truly op. Now will I be able to burn through all of that? Maybe.

[acoustic shell]

is it ok or normal to transport uranium by drone to put it closer to nodes

[mortal ginkgo]

it is ok

[hollow hazel]

@silk rose @graceful relic
Why you telling a Community Manager to in #satisfactory-memes ❔

[unkempt blade]

the only rules are if you have fun doing it that way 😛

[silk rose]

cuz the vid is not funny for me

plus someone deleted my meme

[hollow hazel]

So you have a beef with the staff around here?

[silk rose]

maybe

i dont think he deleted my meme tho

i cant know for certain

but it got many positive reactions, i dont know why they removed it

next one got like 15 chet the pins so there was a reason

[hollow hazel]

CM, Admins and Mods have the final say (in that order).

[silk rose]

its not that deep to have a beef with someone

that meme was like 2 mins effort

jasons memes arent bad but arent funny for me either

[unkempt blade]

you two should hug it out and talk about something better like factory carts

[silk rose]

hm yes

why cant i get cart in hypertube

would be funny

[unkempt blade]

you can use a conveyor + cart but they really like to spin out 🙁

[silk rose]

thats what your nickname says

[silk rose]

#satisfactory-memes message this is very good meme for example

[red sun]

meh humour is subjective

he likes making them and it promotes the game

[silk rose]

yes thats why i add 'for me' always

[red sun]

yeah that's fair

[silk rose]

good

[unkempt blade]

he could just refocus his energy on making ridiculous faces like

memes are so 2005

[pallid tide]

I love well extractors. "Working, sorta..."🤣

[silk rose]

they are cool by all means

[silk rose]

hyperfocus

[storm talon]

My little pure limestone node can feed 16(!!!!!) constructors

Best believe I'm building them all right there. 😛

[knotty smelt]

Lmao I saw that the other day and I was like "wait did I read that right?"

🤣🤣

[pallid tide]

I couldn't tell if I had like placed it wrong or something or if it was just a meme

[frail sleet]

except solid biofuel and regular fuel, which are complete garbo - like less than half as good as the other fuels for no reason

[raven summit]

i downloaded a blueprint into my folder. It isnt there in game tho, but am in a server, is there anything else i have to do?

[frail sleet]

server host needs the blueprint in their game files

[knotty smelt]

LMAO same, I checked all my pipes to make sure I was good haha

[raven summit]

we host it on a website. from hosthavoc

[willow glen]

you might have to reload the game for manually dropped in blueprints to show up, I’m unsure (I always restart out of habit)

[raven summit]

yeah both me and my friend left and rejoined, still no new blueprint

[unkempt blade]

gamers are always so interesting with the "anything that isn't my favorite is garbage/worthless" takes

happens all the time with recipes too

[silk rose]

lol i hope unreal lion doesnt get banned for that

[onyx siren]

How long into the game can 130 fully overclocked fuel generators last me? Will I need nuclear eventually

I hear that particle accelerators require alot of energy

[willow glen]

Rocket fuel is just as good as nuclear imo. Only difference is nuclear uses a bunch of production machines (for the uranium and plutonium cells), whereas rocket fuel is generator spam.

I usually recommend 60 GW for phase 5 completion but it’s up to how you play, could be 40 GW could be 120 GW

[frail sleet]

Solid biofuel only exists to use the jetpack (at massively reduced power) in P1 if you get a jetpack hog, and regular fuel unlocks later than liquid biofuel while being massively worse. There's just no objective reason to use it for jetpack fuel.

Automation maybe has it on a technicality but it doesn't really matter if it's technically automated or not when a minute of work makes 1000 hours of liquid biofuel.

If you don't have LBF you're better off using parachute instead

[spiral stratus]

How does one stay motivated? I became overwhelmed by the amount of stuff to do and I just don't know where to start or what to do, so I have not touched the game in like a month

[frail sleet]

Chunking; pick something smaller and do it.

[lavish dagger]

Decorate your factories that should make your moral go up

[raven summit]

my friend downloaded it too. What else do we have to do?

[unkempt blade]

...don't LBF and canisters/packagers both unlock in T5 like fuel does? Not even both in T5 but you need oil processing for plastic to unlock fluid packaging

[willow glen]

It’s ok to make things slowly and have manufacturers running at 50% just to get to the next phase. Especially if there’s more Mercer spheres and somersloops and hard drives left on the map.

[onyx siren]

it helps to take notes on what needs to be done, then just check things off the list. luckily you can have notes display in game if you enter the inventory menu and click the right hand side of the screen.
I always work on new power systems first and then just glance at the power grid every once in a while while making other things

[willow glen]

I’m unsure, in my multiplayer game our blueprints aren’t shared, they’re saved locally, but it’s not a dedicated server. I think you should post in #1038092680493801533 so it doesn’t get lost

[raven summit]

i will, thanks for your help anyway

[knotty smelt]

I dont think I've ever used solid bio fuel before

[willow glen]

Signs! Remind yourself what you’ve already made. That way you’re not overwhelmed tracing belts and multiplying machines to retrace your steps

[spiral stratus]

Ty y'all

[onyx siren]

sometimes i hand craft turbo ammo and use up all the stuff in my inventory, i end up with solid biofuel that i hold onto for my chainsaw

[knotty smelt]

I honestly dont even use my chainsaw anymore

https://tenor.com/view/gravewalker-nuncamorto-explosão-explosion-nuclear-gif-9788438569601056647

I use... other means

Ah fun my gif dont work

[willow glen]

I didn’t after phase 3 either, one storage container full of leaves and wood would last forever (I upgraded to ionized fuel long before it ran out)

debating burning it in biomass generators as a meme

[ivory condor]

Yeah gifs have been turned off for the longest time

[rigid mist]

did the math and realized i have to add one more freight wagon than i thought

[dire harness]

If anyone's tried to play in the steam deck... how do I press confirm to add a server.. it only keys me select the address and port boxes and pressing a brings up the keyboard to edit those..

[slate python]

Ya

[slate python]

I know but it will just sink the rest

[pallid tide]

How come power grid A and power grid B are always the same on priority power switches? Like what's the point? I wish B would just show you the power draw of the factory connected to it

[fluid sapphire]

OK, its terrible return on investment considering time spent but go nuts 🤷‍♂️

[slate python]

Haha

[fluid sapphire]

ping me with screenshots of those factories when they are ready, this gives me almost the same vibe as the guy who is making 100GW power with coal

[knotty smelt]

WITH COAL????

[fluid sapphire]

yes

20 000 coal, gg

[ancient whale]

My brain will not do this. It nopes out.

[knotty smelt]

Whats that water consumption look like

[topaz shale]

I only use bio fuel for my jetpack now anyways and even then, get a ton more biomass from animals so no chainsaw needed

[willow glen]

but but but alien DNA points…

[fluid sapphire]

i think it was like 60 000 water

[topaz shale]

No DNA. Only fuel.

[willow glen]

the golden nut wants your tickets

[topaz shale]

The animals in this planet have a really horrible time. Turn into DNA points or fuel.

[topaz shale]

I may just dump my excess elevator parts once I beat the game. Maybe. I do want that sweet sweet golden nut.

[knotty smelt]

Thats absolutely mental. I set up my water pipes for my nuclear plant and its sucking up 28000 water p/m. Probably used up well north of 500k sheet and plastic on that

[storm talon]

My math was off.

Again. 😔

[willow glen]

I still think alien DNA is a better use, I mean it takes like 30 minutes of chainsawing (while I look for Mercer spheres) to generate said lifetime supply of biofuel

[fluid sapphire]

ok, thats with mk2 pipes, right? now imagine doing it with mk1 pipes like this guy is planning to do

[topaz shale]

Very true. Someone did mention to sloop the entire line to make a ton of bio fuel from one protein.

[knotty smelt]

Bro better have one hell of a copper sheet factory, that should be like 200 separate pipes in total

Yea mine are mk2 pipes, got 47 of them

[willow glen]

Always sloop slugs and protein, it’s like you gathered twice as much! Or more, depending on the chain. I just left 3 constructors permanently slooped and changed recipe: one always DNA, one switched between the 4 proteins, and one for slugs

[fluid sapphire]

and getting all the coal from the entire map, basically, that they can, at that point in the game

[topaz shale]

I just need to collect more sloops. But yeah, free dna

[wild plume]

how do you delete a floating rail signal that doesnt touch a track?

[knotty smelt]

You see the #screenshots guy trying to make 2400 pasta a min?

[worthy hatch]

do we know when they are coming back?

kinda miss the streams

[drifting python]

anyway to nudge a locked hologram?

[fluid sapphire]

oh... OH

[topaz shale]

Arrow keys, I believe

[upbeat rain]

Every time I enter the game I get a notification that I have a power grid that has lost power...
I checked everything and it seems normal. What could be causing this?

[dense violet]

you probaly just have 1 bio burner dead somewhere

[slate python]

Ya

[drifting python]

it seems it wont move if its snapping too

[knotty smelt]

Does the world even have enough resources for that😭😭

[slate python]

Idk

[topaz shale]

There is a limit to how far you can nudge in vanilla

[upbeat rain]

I just deleted a lot of junk that was on the map with SCIM...
I'm on my way to check the hub but other than that...

[fluid sapphire]

i would think not

idk if any alt recipe soup could possibly conjure up the resources for all that

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> background image on the qa site still says 1.0

[ivory condor]

@sterile blade feels bad because that building style is basically a non starter because of how poor signs are optimized now😔

Everytime I go back to test that save it stutters alot and can't see anyway to improve it that doesnt involve removing the signs, sad

[mortal ginkgo]

Use Signs for... signs. Not have them in one place as walls 🤔

[fluid sapphire]

is there a way to change the build mode of pipes in auto connect mode

like ideally i would want them at a right angle, but they are an ugly noodle

[mortal ginkgo]

I hope someone corrects me but I think thats forced behaviour

[fluid sapphire]

so its basically only useful for building in a straight line

[knotty smelt]

Yea i was having that problem yesterday

Pretty much yea

[fluid sapphire]

ehh, oh well, at least it didnt take that long
#screenshots message

[knotty smelt]

Oh nice

[ivory condor]

Its meant to be for decoration, but the idea is dead now, its over

[rigid mist]

does adding more locomotives increase acceleration

[mortal dirge]

My nightmare scenario

[green fiber]

it increases pull force so kinda

max speed stays the same tho

[rigid mist]

hmm

[knotty smelt]

3mil cooper ingots p/m

[rigid mist]

my uranium round trip takes like 2 minutes too long to use only 7 wagons D:

[green fiber]

slope of rails matters

do you only have 1 locomotive for those 7 wagons?

[rigid mist]

2 locomotives 8 wagons cause i need another wagon

[green fiber]

those 2 should in theory be enough unless you have like spirals or just really steep rails

[knotty smelt]

satisfactory calculator says it needs close to 8 million megawatts

[rigid mist]

yeah i think the slopes are a problem but i have to reach the highest and lowest points on the map
i even minimized slopes by having a 2km airborne section

[wintry horizon]

i need ppl to play with lol i got no clue what im doing

[rigid mist]

go watch some of LGIO's videos they helped me

[green fiber]

it also says you can only make 133.34/min at max

[wintry horizon]

i tried lol i get overwhelmed on singleplayer lol

[green fiber]

because then you run out of materals - that is WITH Ore conversion

[knotty smelt]

yea thats not surprising

[green fiber]

honestly no clue how that guy expects to feed it all

you cant even get enough pressure conversion cubes

[rigid mist]

there should be a mod where you can get ores from "other planets" cause the extraction rates on the map are limited
it would allow gigabases to be possible

[green fiber]

your pc would explode first

[rigid mist]

lol

is a trainsaw possible?

[green fiber]

this isnt tf2

also no, trains dont hit enemies

[spiral summit]

any way i can generate fake smoke

[rigid mist]

trainsaw is a Factorio thing

[green fiber]

i just thought of trainsawlaser when i read trainsaw lol

[upbeat rain]

What is more efficient for a train?
A simple straight ramp or a spiral ramp for ascending or descending in height...

[ivory condor]

Just lease out nasa supercomputer

[knotty smelt]

my pc was lagging to hell trying to place my blueprint pipes last night im sure it would love a 2400 pasta factory

[green fiber]

efficient in terms of?

build space? spirals
easy of building? straights (with some turns maybe, so kinda a very elongated spiral)
speed conservation / minimized friction? straights

[upbeat rain]

Speed, for maximum amount of item transfer

[green fiber]

build space? spirals
easy of building? straights (with some turns maybe, so kinda a very elongated spiral)
speed conservation / minimized friction? straights

problem is its kind of a trade of vertical space vs horizontal space and thus might be longer than the spiral

ideally the straight would be placed in such a way where it doesnt make the track longer than it needs to be

[rigid mist]

8 wagons, 4 locomotives
1 loco at front 3 at back

[gritty spire]

i made it to phase 4 a while ago and have just now started to work on assembly director system. idk how much more i have in me

[tribal iron]

I genuinely got a shock to my system. I was like. let's try SF again.. and the friggin menu is in Dutch.. That.. that is just not right. Games should not be in my native language 😄

[dense cave]

never knew ada is chill like that

"choo choo m*f*"

[upbeat rain]

If managed correctly I think it will be fine...(space wise)
Which ramp would be best to use 1m or 2m?

Regarding the comment you made, does it mean that I should use as many ramps as necessary and no more to prevent additional turns, etc.?

[tribal iron]

Also, it apppears not everything is translated haha

[storm talon]

Alright I had to take a break.

Sometimes Satisfactory can be frustrating.

[forest grotto]

why isn't my train unloading ?

[willow glen]

Both 1m and 2m ramps work fine, tho trains can sometimes go faster up 1m ramps than they can 2m ramps. 4m ramps can cause trains to stall.

And as far as the verticality, I think they mean spirals are inefficient because they add travel distance (only going up), whereas ramps go both forward and up.

[willow glen]

Did it automatically stop and dock? If so check the freight station, make sure it’s set to “unload”

[forest grotto]

oh thanks it was on load lol

i just set up my first train station

[willow glen]

Congrats! It gets easier now

[daring pawn]

accidentally forgot 4 foundries in my big building and i am NOT changing

i just overclocked a few

[peak wasp]

Morning, pioneers

[unkempt blade]

spirals look like a thousand times cooler though so you have to account for how that impacts route time

Longer routes is just a great reason to add more trains

[ionic forge]

Have the devs ever thought of adding a rotating train depot? Like those train wheels houses

[silk rose]

im sure its hell ass to code so they dont

[wary perch]

You know most people drink coffee in the morning but wouldn’t it be cool if I game you could have any liquid in your coffee cup perhaps changed via some vending machine

[silk rose]

wdym train wheels houses

[storm talon]

A wheel-house.