satisfactory

[exotic pilot]

I said should I do satisfactory

[round vault]

do factorio

[exotic pilot]

Shut up please

[round vault]

what did i say

[silk ocean]

You can be Human xD

[exotic pilot]

I ASKED IF I SHOULD DO SATISFACTORY

[silk ocean]

Yes xD

[exotic pilot]

ok so finally someone answered the yes or no question

[silk ocean]

You can do it xD

[exotic pilot]

Ok so now I have the weekend to finish satisfactory

1 phase in two days

[silk ocean]

You can do it

[exotic pilot]

Wait does this mean that satisfactory is my homework

[silk ocean]

Yep

[exotic pilot]

Finally good homework

[silk ocean]

Yep

[exotic pilot]

Yep

[north hornet]

Time to get back to work (homework?) - 37 of 44 steam achievements. 7 to go. 750 more tickets. etc.

[exotic pilot]

When I finish phase five I’ll just put all overflow items into awesome shop

[north hornet]

I just finished a production line to drop Nuclear Pasta into the SINK!! 538,000 points.

[earnest oak]

I genuinely hate this game I just spent an hour trying to figure out how to align crafters with smelters so that I can have 1 crafter for 1 smelter

[exotic pilot]

How

[azure dust]

is there still no way to snap blueprints where i want, and not limiting to only next to the bp im standing on

cuz like if one of my bp offsets me some metres up, the next bp isnt made accounting for that offset so it snaps to the wrong height\

[round vault]

whats a crafter
do you mean constructor

[earnest oak]

Ya 😭😭😭 I'm new to the game lmao

[round vault]

😭

[earnest oak]

I just passed 14 hours

[round vault]

it didnt take me that long to combine smelters and crafters but mine is so inefficent

horrendously slow

[earnest oak]

Currently it's 100% efficiency

[round vault]

like 6 hours in

this game lit

[earnest oak]

Real!!

[round vault]

but i think ima have to destroy everything and rebuild for the 3rd time

[earnest oak]

Probs didn't start doing anything other than smelting stuff like 5 hours in 😭

[round vault]

manually crafting 500 concrete rn

[ruby mountain]

nudge :)

lock a build hologram with h and use arrows to line it up

[earnest oak]

Yeah ik that's not what I'm tryna say

I mean the hitbox if the contractor is bigger than miner

[round vault]

contractor💔

[earnest oak]

AUTOCORRECT

[azure dust]

constructor

is right

but contractor feels right

[earnest oak]

😭🗣️

[steady glade]

||pushing pipes out my contractor||

[ruby mountain]

Sometimes I merge all the smelter output into one line and then just split it into constructors

[steady glade]

no issue with that

[round vault]

how do i combine the ores out of my 2 drills or however many into 1 conveyor belt line

[ruby mountain]

migth have to use multiple belts, especially earlygame

[gritty sleet]

It'd be really cool if there was a passenger station for trains. Much smaller (for ease of building), can only have matching blank platforms with raised floors attached to it, for level boarding. Basically just a target for a train to visit, without needing a massive space, if you just want to travel to that location by train and not ship any items.

Or maybe even something like Factorio where it's literally just a thing you can snap to a track like a signal, that acts like a station, but without any other features, and you'd build your own platform out of foundation if you want a platform?

[hollow needle]

In satisfactory modeler how do you get these clean straight 90 degree lines my always look so curved and messy

[trim vine]

use a merger

[trim vine]

though you should only really merge impure nodes together

[round vault]

alr2

[earnest oak]

what can i do if my storage gets full?

[shy mulch]

either make more storage, or don't, doesn't really matter

machines will stop producing if there's no room for the things they produce, and that's fine

saves on power 🙂

[peak orchid]

Hey does anyone know if it is a know issue that i can't start a new game with my controller or is it me ? when I click on New Game the menu shows up but I can't access it if I try going left the menu closes and nothing happens.

[cursive crane]

Awesome sink and subsequently awesome shop

Really depends what you are asking here

[earnest oak]

im early game and brand new

[cursive crane]

If you press N you can search for things. That search bar also works as a calculator

Otherwise make sure not to forget about the awesome shop/sink, lots of goodies there.
Focus the mam and your milestones as much as possible, its basically one big tutorial, so if you ever feel like you are struggling with something, see if theres a building or research you are forgetting about [the mam!]

Other than that just have fun, do it your way and enjoy learning and exploring

[silk ocean]

n is easier xD

n type, enter xD

maybe arrow keys xD

They are near CRTL

[cursive crane]

Oh, and don't be afraid to wiki things, don't use it as a crutch cuz its the type of game you only experience the first time once. But lots of good info

[silk ocean]

Carriage Return Line Feed

The big Enter key on your board

[leaden turret]

press N for Nalculator

[cursive crane]

I am actively draining braincells

[silk ocean]

Smol Enter CRLF if you are American xD

If you are sobbing over your American bachslashes, smol Entry keys and dollars xD

Just use the British / UK English layout, it's the best.. Apart from Euros xD

You can remap that disaster economy xD

[earnest oak]

someone check screenshotsand tell me if its legal?

[silk ocean]

That is not permitted xD

[earnest oak]

IDK WHAT ELSE TO DO 😭

[leaden turret]

embrace the spaghett https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=spaghett

[silk ocean]

Rebuild xD

[earnest oak]

i really dk how ive alr optimized to the max

[silk ocean]

Make that other line further away and bridge the gap xD

[earnest oak]

it cannot go further as it has to go into an assembld

[silk ocean]

Send bigger SS xD

[earnest oak]

i gotya

sent

[silk ocean]

You can move it back a bit? xD

[earnest oak]

time to get hella roasted

[silk ocean]

Roasty Toasty xD

[earnest oak]

i can only go back by 1 lane

[silk ocean]

Rebuild required xD

[earnest oak]

i figured it out trust

[silk ocean]

Total rebuild

[earnest oak]

nah breh

[silk ocean]

Nuke it from space xD

[earnest oak]

lemme cook

[leaden turret]

do you even (belt) lift, bro?

[silk ocean]

I fail at belt/lifting brah xD

[cursive crane]

Drag upwards when placing it L I F T S

[earnest oak]

well thats what i did now but it looks ugly

[cursive crane]

Or embrace s p a g e t t its your save do whatchu want

[cursive crane]

Screen shot?

[leaden turret]

stick it in a box

[earnest oak]

done

[cursive crane]

Try a lift coming out of the splitter/merger

Can go up or down

[If theres room below the platform]

[earnest oak]

ill figure someting out

is there any way to improve reinforce plates efficiency other than build more assemblers

[dense cave]

how do i make it so that power line uses power pole mk2 by default

[earnest oak]

equip it in ur hotbar

instead of mk1

[dense cave]

yeah no work

[earnest oak]

oh works for me

[cursive crane]

Alternate recipes found by obtaining and researching hard drives in the mam

[cursive crane]

If you equip the power line and use that in your hotbar, it should copy the pole you connected to to place the next one

[dense cave]

well im connecting from power sources and

power towers

[cursive crane]

Yea so the first one you place you might have to press... e? Or r? Cant remember what it is. But ones you place after that should.

Basically instead of connecting lines directly from the source, place the pole[s] first and connect them then. If you want more poles place while connected to it

[reef basin]

what kind of "efficiency" are you talking about?

[slow kindle]

What's "Purity: Temp"?

[earnest oak]

more than 5/min

[reef basin]

well, build more machines

[cursive crane]

The little rocks you break on top of nodes

[reef basin]

group of nodes with different purities

[cursive crane]

Alternate recipes

[reef basin]

the little rocks (deposits) do not show purity on the map

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch reinforced_plates

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=reinforced_plates

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch reinforced+iron+plates

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=reinforced+iron+plates

[cursive crane]

I hate this for the record whys it not a slash command

!wikisearch reinforced+iron+plate

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=reinforced+iron+plate

[cursive crane]

Alternate recipes there.

[long lance]

can anyone help me with a coal generator it doesnt make sense why its not working i have t2 conveyers to 8 coal generators with 3 water pumps and the coal isnt making it to all the generators??

[slow kindle]

Are nodes that are together always worse in purity? istg I see groups of 6 iron nodes all impure

[reef basin]

you don't need any pupms for coal gens
if you mean extractors then the ratio is correct - I'm assuming you're using a single pipe to get it from extractors to gens?

[reef basin]

that's the same as 3 normal or 1.5 pure

[long lance]

could i send a ss in dms??

[reef basin]

no, send it in #1038092680493801533

[cursive crane]

Not always but pretty much. Its done on purpose to nudge you towards using logistics and expanding/exploring more

[shy mulch]

probably the pipe layout, make sure no one pipe is trying to flow more water than its capacity

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch coal+gen

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=coal+gen

[long lance]

my issue isnt the water though

[shy mulch]

do you have enough coal?

[reef basin]

let's move to the questions thread

[long lance]

its the coal its like a pure node isnt enough i even merged it with a normal node and it still doesnt reach the last one

[limpid cairn]

Is there a way to stick splitters onto the output of miners or other machines ?

[cursive crane]

If its coal thats the issue, its usually either that you need more time for them all to fill up, or while upgrading from t1 belts to t2, you might have missed a small belt thats inside a merger/splitter

[pallid elm]

!wikisearch fluids

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fluids

[severe rampart]

hey is there a place i can go to for blueprints

i need one for blenders like rn

[cursive crane]

Literally a site called satisfactoryblueprints . Com

[sterile blade]

Why look for it rather than make one? ^^

[cursive crane]

I swear people don't google anymore ;_;

[severe rampart]

i am googling

this is a google powered by people

who aren't incorrect ai

[sterile blade]

Yeah, there's better Search Engines

[sterile blade]

For the love of God please no

[cursive crane]

Technically google is a google powered by people. Where do you think the power for the servers comes from

[sterile blade]

Not from here xD

[cursive crane]

insert gif from the matrix

Pioneers have to be useful for something after T9

[severe rampart]

found what i needed, thank goodness for the auto connect feature

[reef basin]

check if you don't have mk1 belt in the merger

[long lance]

i had a mk1 belt in the line it was so small and messed up the whole thing

[peak wasp]

hello, again XD

pipeline , vertical, from bottom i add a pump to "pump" on top.
this negate the flow to go from top to bottom?

[slow kindle]

I have 2 normal coal nodes with miner mk1 each one generating 60c/m
I have 8 coal generators which each require 15 coal = 15 * 8 = 120 coal for all gens
so those 2 normal miners both provide 120 which is supposed to be enough, but not all of my gens are getting filled(the last 2 aren't)

[round vault]

guys how do i place my smelters like a /
theyre always 90 degrees to my foundations

idk the word for it my english is not great

the buildings are like always facing straight, 4 different direcions only ig

[slow kindle]

Switch building mode in R key, and snap to grid in CRTL key

[round vault]

ohh

says i only have 1 mode

how do i get the other ones

[slow kindle]

What building are you trying to place?

[round vault]

smelter

[shy mulch]

spin mouse wheel

[slow kindle]

Oh, that one doesn't have any extra build modes, only the belts
Spin with mouse wheel

[round vault]

so can i only ever turn it 4 ways

[slow kindle]

No

[round vault]

and not inbetween

damn

[slow kindle]

You can turn it more ways

[round vault]

like
only 12, 3, 6 and 9 o clocks
but no 1 2 4 5 or something

[shy mulch]

if it's snapping to a foundation then yes only 4, but you can place it more ways by placing it freely, or temporarily place a foundation in the direction you want the machine

that way you can do 5 degree increments

[round vault]

ohh

didnt know it were the foundations

[finite mirage]

#screenshots message
is this world limit?

would i die if i fall down?

like the void or smthn?

[willow glen]

without the map open I can’t be 100% sure where you are from that, but yes there is voids you can fall into and die

[finite mirage]

#screenshots message

[willow glen]

ya that’s the edge, void below

[peak wasp]

ello pioneers i has come to give you toxic waste as gifts :3

and maybe some powerslugs

[median drift]

Can I eat it?

[peak wasp]

@abstract heron

[small flicker]

Gday :3 may i play with ya?

[silk ocean]

#1201555265942724758

[peak wasp]

sure you can :D

[reef basin]

didn't fail, just embeds are disabled

(in this channel)

[small flicker]

indeed it has failed due to an embeding failure since you havent go this permission yet

[reef basin]

well it's not fail if it acts as it should 😉

[peak wasp]

ohhhh okie

i has smooth brain .w.

[upbeat socket]

hey

i came here to ask a quick question:
is ada an ai?

[peak wasp]

i think so

[silk ocean]

Probably xD

[peak wasp]

time to be a silly goober

[silk ocean]

AI the best to chat with xD

[dense cave]

is there any way to just dispose something automatically

like a dump

[silk ocean]

Sink? xD

What you trying to dispose of

[dense cave]

heavy fuel residue

[silk ocean]

Process it

[dense cave]

into fuel?

but like how to properlly store it

[silk ocean]

Refinery

[dense cave]

its still liquid

i dont have the packaging milestone

[silk ocean]

Into like... Fuel

[reef basin]

depends
lore-wise - yes
actually - no, it's pre-recorded messages

[silk ocean]

Then burn it xD

[dense cave]

oo how

[reef basin]

into anything

don't store it, use it for production or power

[dense cave]

i dont have oil power as well 😭

[reef basin]

don't need it

[green fiber]

Then make petroleum coke instead

Can be burned in coal generators or shredded

[dense cave]

shredded？

[green fiber]

AWESOME sink

[dense cave]

ooo right

how can I forget that

[cursive crane]

Is there a lore explanation of what the sink actually does?

[silk ocean]

Sinks the stuff? xD

[peak wasp]

Just package it and than sink it

Or just store it in fluid containera and flush them every now an than until you get packaging

[reef basin]

that's like the worst option

well, both are

[peak wasp]

I know so just unlock packaging quicker

[reef basin]

why package it

why not make it useful

[peak wasp]

I mean if you try hard enough you can dump them in a custom sink

Just take your monitor and dump in your kitchen sink

[reef basin]

wet concrete is like worst solution for aluminum

pipes are never the issue

the player is

to confirm what I know? no need

[modest nest]

We should be able to dump fluids out of pipes and pollute more effectively

[reef basin]

alu is simple, just don't mix fresh and recycled water

[modest nest]

I know we can flush but like just leave the end of a pipe open and it just kinda spills everywhere instead of having to manage overflow we can just dump it out endlessly

Doesn't really fit the game but it'd be kinda fun

[daring reef]

they said that they do certain stuff like that not possible to make u automate

back then all parts were craftable but people would ignore everything and manually craft

[true mulch]

managing fluid byproducts is an intended gameplay challenge

[reef basin]

if dealt with wrong

[modest nest]

Yeah kinda makes sense, game would be way easier without it

[urban ledge]

hey everyone! im trying this game out for the first time, anyone got any recommendations for starter area? (someone i know said sandy dunes while another said grasslands)

[modest nest]

Spawn wherever looks cool to you, if you don't like it just restart

[daring reef]

all are balanced pick the one u like the most

doesnt matter either way soon in the game u grow out of the starting zone and just have factories everywhere

[urban ledge]

thats the thing, i havent even loaded my first playthrough =v=

i just know expanding in the wrong area sucks

[modest nest]

Yeah it gives you like an image preview of the location

[daring reef]

Not really

[reef basin]

all starter areas are fine, it's all on the same map anyway

[reef basin]

there's no "wrong" area

[daring reef]

all have pros and cons

so pick the one that looks cool to u

[modest nest]

All areas are fine, some just lack certain things but makeup for it in other, like the desert lacks organic fuel sources but once you get coal power it's fine and has loads of iron

So just pick whatever sounds cool to you

[urban ledge]

and whats a good world gen seed? (comin from minecraft so idk if it has a seed system or is it preset)

[modest nest]

It's a set world

[reef basin]

there's no seed

[daring reef]

the map is handmade same for everyone

[urban ledge]

thats actually cool

[modest nest]

Oh hey that's an interesting topic, will they ever add other worlds to the game?

[urban ledge]

20$ DLC lmao

[reef basin]

no

[daring reef]

yep allows players to discuss where u should build something

[modest nest]

Like a dlc or something with a few different resources and maybe some extra steps in certain areas to make it a little different

[true mulch]

at one point they discussed a potential "underground cave system DLC"

[modest nest]

Aw

[daring reef]

that would be epic satisfactory but underground

[true mulch]

but definitely not another map, given the current one took 7 years to make

[modest nest]

Yeah I'd pay for a dlc any day

[daring reef]

maybe on a planet where the surface is a hellish landscape

[urban ledge]

also i heard my friend play and they kept talking about some zone called "the blue crator"? whats that cuz its sounds super cool and it really interested the backrooms fantic in me :3 (the blue zone iykyk)

[daring reef]

its a place with alot of oil coal and sulfur and some gas i forgot its name

[modest nest]

I think it's in the bottom right of the map but I wouldn't take my word for it I'm still pretty new

[daring reef]

making it perfect for a rocket fuel factory

[urban ledge]

ROCKETS?

[willow glen]

ya it’s southeast most corner

[modest nest]

Rocket fuel

[urban ledge]

awhh

[daring reef]

no rocket fuel used for drones and power

[urban ledge]

whats next they got trains or jetpacks x3

[daring reef]

should we tell him

[reef basin]

honestly, my number one tip (and pretty much only one) would be to stop looking for tips from people, videos, streams, etc. and just play the game. The ingame tutorial is pretty good and gives you all the info you need. Only come here if you're trully stuck, but otherwise play at your own pace and explore the game on your own

[willow glen]

hides name

[urban ledge]

*her and WHAT

[modest nest]

Both yes

[urban ledge]

REALLY? WOAH

[daring reef]

yeah there is a hoverpack too

[urban ledge]

got it! thank youu :3

[reef basin]

(also if you don't want the game spoiled, I'd recommend stopping hanging out here, as you can see, you already were given many spoilers 😛 )

[urban ledge]

AHHHHH OKAY

see yall in like an hour :3

[modest nest]

Bai

I've been wanting to hop back on but my next task is nuclear power and I can't decide which fuel source to use or where to build plus I'm on a trip right now and a bit stretched for time

[daring reef]

im litterly at the same point and saidd ehh ill do nuclear power later

I decided to do advanced aluminium production first

[modest nest]

Yeah I just have to do nuclear power next or just run around the map collecting mercer spheres and hard drives and whatnot

[daring reef]

i already have 14GW extra or something i dont use

[modest nest]

I only have about 2gw extra right now

[daring reef]

u should prob fix that

[modest nest]

Yeah it's just a daunting task

[shy mulch]

I'm producing about 700GW more than I'm using 😬

[daring reef]

why

[shy mulch]

Why not

[modest nest]

I have a total of 17gw

I think

[daring reef]

thats like almost double what a small country makes

[shy mulch]

Building power stations is something I found fun, so I kept doing it

[modest nest]

Fair enough

[daring reef]

it is fun

[urban ledge]

question, i got arachnophobia and a friend recommended some setting to disable the spiders? how do I do that? she didnt tell me

[daring reef]

except fluids

[daring reef]

settings there is something called arachnophobia mode turns spiders into cats

[unkempt blade]

Number must go up! Has space capitalism taught you nothing?

[modest nest]

There's an arachnophobia mode setting

[daring reef]

there isnt too many spiders on the map either way

[urban ledge]

cans i pet kitty

[modest nest]

It'll still eat you

[shy mulch]

There's loads

[urban ledge]

awh :c

thankie ^^

[daring reef]

i would advice to take caution but go for it

just make sure keep inventory is on

[violet moat]

guys are pipeline manifolds ok to use?

[frozen ingot]

yes!

[hard ivy]

manifolds are the only thing I'd ever consider using for pipes

[frozen ingot]

very much so

[hard ivy]

put the main pipe a few meters above the machine inputs tho

[violet moat]

okk and i just connect it with a loopback pipe right?

[violet moat]

huh?

[hard ivy]

no need to loopback usually

[frozen ingot]

loopback pipe can help in certain situations but i often don't do it and it seems fine 😆

[modest nest]

Ironic

[frozen ingot]

probably in situations closer to 600/min flow on mk2 pipes

reduces sloshing effect or something

[hard ivy]

the pipe that runs parallel to the machines should be a few meters higher than the machines' inputs. then you connect to the machines with short, mostly vertical pipes

[modest nest]

But what does this improve

[hard ivy]

I use balancers where they're appropriate. Pipes are not one of those situations

[hard ivy]

less sloshing in my experience

makes higher flow rates more reliable

[forest grotto]

Since it's finally Friday I can stay up all night building my steel factory and train

[modest nest]

Hell yeah

Ah I know so much more about the game than I did at the start of this world that I'm considering restarting again

[silk ocean]

KYO loves balancers xD

Balance 4 Life xD

[reef basin]

loop makes sure that sloshing doesn't affect your builds

vertical loop makes sure that the bottom pipe is full with fluid

[modest nest]

Does it have to loop all the way from one end of the pipe to the other?

[reef basin]

it's better if it does

[modest nest]

And at the same level or lower or higher than the main pipe

[silk ocean]

Check out the plumbing manual xD

[reef basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1405360050025009162/1405365800893681675/image.png?ex=689fe1e5&is=689e9065&hm=fd8c0667cdda3608dd60fe26ebacd97b4ef79c7885609b6235293865a3665f9b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1241&height=967

[modest nest]

I see

My brain is struggling to comprehend how that helps though

But I will try it

[silk ocean]

"The FICSIT Inc. Plumbing Manual: A Guide to Pipelines"

Google it

[reef basin]

or just open it on wiki or from pinned post

(though many things in the manual are "this is technically possible" rather than "use this")

[silk ocean]

It's a good tutorial xD

[modest nest]

It seems like a fluid buffer would do the same thing

[reef basin]

no

[hard ivy]

the best tutorial is your own experience. I never looked at any piping manuals tutorials, help posts or anything and 99% of my pipes work as intended

[reef basin]

fluid buffers are practically pointless

[dense turtle]

what do u use to build t5 belts

[hard ivy]

alclas alu sheets

[dense turtle]

and are those tier 5s even useful

[hard ivy]

could've looked that up on the wiki lol

[silk ocean]

You have to bear in mind that KYO is a professional, us mere mortals have to look at manuals xD

[hard ivy]

I mean... it's a faster belt. that's always useful

[modest nest]

Huh, I'm still reading about the loops but it seems rather niche and like just raising the input pipe line to be above the inputs would also solve the issue, Maybe I'm still not understanding though hold on

[silk ocean]

Just feed it in xD

Just remember pipe capacity xD

600

[reef basin]

kinda yes, but not always

the problem is backflow from pipe junctions

[silk ocean]

This is never a problem xD

[reef basin]

oh it very much is

[silk ocean]

Not in my factory xD

[reef basin]

depends how you build, it may affect you less or more, but it's always there

[hard ivy]

a loopback has never solved an issue for me that a lifted manifold didn't

[silk ocean]

I have no backflow issues xD

[reef basin]

yeah but we all know your pipes are weird, so that's irrelevant

[reef basin]

but you ahve backflow

[modest nest]

A loop seems like a waste of material to just lifting the manifold

[reef basin]

materials are infinite

[silk ocean]

No backflow here xD

Gandalf says so

[reef basin]

ANY pipe section can (and will) have backflow

whether or not it affects your factory depends on how well you build

[modest nest]

Yeah but my time isn't

[silk ocean]

Extra capacity xD

Reduce efficiency

[hard ivy]

can? sure. will? not necessarily

[silk ocean]

600 in 600 out, no backflow xD

[reef basin]

no backflow that you've seen

[hard ivy]

also not always

[modest nest]

It'll have backflow if you're using less than is going in sure

[silk ocean]

720 in, 600 out xD

[modest nest]

I mean sloshing will create backflow, but sloshing can be mostly avoided by just lifting the pipeline above where the fluids are going

[reef basin]

sloshing can happen because fluids hit a dead end (e.g. a machine)

[silk ocean]

sloshing == sobbing

[modest nest]

I think I'm starting to understand, but now I'm thinking it's only really at issue if you're using all or almost all 600 of the pipes capacity

[reef basin]

it indeed becomes more issue the closer are you to pipe limit

[silk ocean]

sloshing --> tears

[modest nest]

Ah, so just raising the pipe would fix it in most cases until you reach max capacity and then if there's still issues add a loop, I see

[hard ivy]

I don't put loopbacks on my 600/min pipes, and those that have few machines on the production side, all work fine

and those with long prodcuction manifolds don't work, but a loopback never fixed the issue

[reef basin]

#satisfactory message

[silk rose]

why did my meme get deleted it got like 30 positive reactions, not a single check the pins

[reef basin]

half of the memes aren't even SF memes 🤷

[modest nest]

Yeah I think I'll restart today and put time into making everything look neat, because now I have the factories organized but they're still just on floating platforms, and all the resources belts are just kinda everywhere on the way in, and I know I can place extractors on top of foundations now

[velvet idol]

no fun allowed

[modest nest]

And I forgot to leave space for smart splitters and overflow on my earlier factories

[round vault]

having a brain fart over automating reinforced iron plates

i mean its not hard but its turning out geniunely so ugly and massive

[peak wasp]

Hello pioneers

[silk ocean]

Have fun with the higher levels xD

[modest nest]

Also going to use turbo fuel this time

[peak wasp]

I want to move my hub. But scared it won't feel like home

[silk ocean]

You can move it xD

[peak wasp]

Higher

[silk ocean]

Just deconstruct

[peak wasp]

I know

[dense turtle]

did u read what they are sayingh

[silk ocean]

Scared? xD

[peak wasp]

I might start building higher and a level of nothing just my hub and research

[silk ocean]

Not feeling like home xD

[peak wasp]

With like glass windows

So I can see the world

Do we get elevators for humans? Or just use those tubes

[dense turtle]

yeah u can buy them for coupons

[modest nest]

Yeah there's elevators

[dense turtle]

in awesome shop

[peak wasp]

Oh right

[silk ocean]

The time has come, move that hab xD

[peak wasp]

I bought stuff

[silk ocean]

Add Windows, Add Life

You can do eeet

[peak wasp]

I feel like the running a mine directly into sink

[dense turtle]

just remember the better items the more points

what i did was i was sinking concrete at first

[modest nest]

You get more points for more complex items

[peak wasp]

Concrete was my first thought

[modest nest]

I've been sinking HMF recently

[dense turtle]

ive been sinking everything recently

cuz i overkilled every single one of my factories

[modest nest]

Hell yeah

[peak wasp]

Like what do you still suggest

[dense turtle]

and i have 5 full containers of everything

[dense turtle]

space elevator parts give a lot

and u could use the animals dna for now if u just want quick coupons

[peak wasp]

That's expensive I'm on like tier 3 atm

My end goal.is to build machine city

[dense turtle]

uh like a megafactory?

[peak wasp]

Like matrix

[shy mulch]

If your goal is high amounts of sink points for coupons, then in early game alien DNA is the most effective way, in late game use space elavator parts. Use the wiki to check how many points each thing gives to decide what to produce for sink points

[peak wasp]

Ahh

I found a crash site W hard drive

Pretty cool

[shy mulch]

open it and get the hard drive

[peak wasp]

Lost another tractor 🙁

I did

[shy mulch]

lost?

[dense turtle]

wdym lost

[peak wasp]

Was driving and fell off a cliff no way up

[dense turtle]

u can dismatle it

[peak wasp]

But not steep this time

Oh..

[dense turtle]

lol

[peak wasp]

Last one was in the water. Fell off a cliff too

When do I get trains

[dense turtle]

after u finish this phase ur in

so tier 6

[peak wasp]

Hmm

[modest nest]

I suggest getting the mam and researching the smart splitter (I think it's in the caterium tree) and hooking up a smart splitter before every end storage bin and setting one output to "Overflow" and sending all of it into a sink

[silk ocean]

Research xD

Research all xD

Secret to your life, Research

[dense turtle]

i hate anything related to exploring in this game so much

mercer spheres and hard drives piss me off

[white dawn]

Can always AGS or SCIM yourself the stuff you want, in lieu of actual exploring, of course

[modest nest]

Object scanner, and there's an interactive map that helps

Even let's you upload your save and see which mercer spheres and hardrives you haven't gotten

[dense turtle]

ik

[modest nest]

There's always mods

[empty hatch]

Exploring was the first part I liked the most, although me and two friends started a server the first time and they both immediately jumped on the power management and initial factory building

[dense turtle]

and scanning hard drives piss me off too

[empty hatch]

I love all the hidden caves, and jumping puzzles and the overall biomes and world

[dense turtle]

cuz why do i gotta wait 10 minutes

and i dont have anything to do cuz i need one recipe

to build my next factory

[empty hatch]

Relying on alternates seems wrong

[modest nest]

Uh

Alright

[dense turtle]

wait till u realise how good alts are

some are

[empty hatch]

Maybe once you played thru a bunch and have alternates memorized but to me they seem like random ways to play differently

Not things you need to have to progresss

[modest nest]

I mean they can save you time, resources, and power usage if used correctly

Not really random because you can get all of them

[empty hatch]

But not really required at all

[dense turtle]

steel screws is a game changer

or wet concrete

[modest nest]

Not required no but extremely helpful

[dense turtle]

or any recipe that kicks out screws out of a recipe

[modest nest]

Copper alloy ingot, or even pure ingots

Just directly allow you to do more

[dense turtle]

yeah im now hunting for pure aluminum ingot recipe or sum like that

[empty hatch]

I haven't used any alternates yet (still on my first playthrough) but I could see anything that simplifies screws being very nice

[dense turtle]

i mean the one that makes u not require quartz

[modest nest]

Pure aluminium ingot yeah, there's also instant scrap which I like using

[dense turtle]

theres this recipe that doubles alumina solution output with less resources

thats pretty insane, with the downside (which is debatable) u dont produce sillica as a byproduct

[modest nest]

Yeah I'd check out some alternates if I were you but I am not and cannot make you do anything

[dense turtle]

instant scrap makes u not require coal?

[modest nest]

Uh I think it does at some stage but it's less lemme check

Yeah it still needs coal just cuts out the step of making alumina solution but adds the need of sulfuric acid

Maybe not too handy but I like it

[dense turtle]

oh then i dont want that

cuz i already got the alumina sollution alt

and thats the way i wanna go

[modest nest]

Lemme look at that one hold up

[willow glen]

so far my favorite alt combination is iron pipe and encased pipe: get encased steel beams from only iron and limestone, no coal!

Really handy for later production lines

[modest nest]

Ah that looks nice, I might use sloppy alumina instead next time

[dense turtle]

i just saw some ranking and pure aluminum ingot is top 3 alts in the game by that list but

checking tier lists do seem wrong

[modest nest]

Oo cool

[willow glen]

like, every recipe in the game can be useful, so idk about tier lists, it’s pretty situational

[smoky forge]

yeah its not in terms of item conversion

like the actual ore to the ingot ratio

[dense turtle]

it accounts everything

power resources etc but why check tier lists when u can play your way

[willow glen]

cutting out silica makes aluminum a lot easier. Worry about ore efficiency after you’ve tapped every node (good luck)

[pseudo moth]

My graphic card has burned, only few minutes after the end of the game, thank you, it let me finish this masterpiece 🥲

[dense turtle]

yeah i wanna cut out sillica

[modest nest]

I just use alts based on the resources I have available

Maybe not fully effectively but it's working so far

[hard ivy]

most of the rankings are bullshit tbh
the only one I'd consider somewhat decent is the community ranking. but it doesn't give a reason for a recipe's rank so that's kinda meh too

[dense turtle]

yeah

[willow glen]

if you can sneak rubber into your limestone, you only need a little, rubber concrete goes hard

[hard ivy]

I choose the location based on the resources required

[smoky forge]

speling stroke fr

[modest nest]

I do that but if there's a location that I can make work with alts that's closer I'll do that

Like if there's a spot that has almost everything but it's missing quartz I'll try to make my factory work without quartz instead of picking a new location that's farther away

Or it has a bunch of iron but little copper I'll use alloy ingots.

[shy mulch]

That's what I'm building next
3 pure limestone nodes chucking out 3600 limestone in total
Regular recipe would give me 1200 concrete
Wet concrete alt just add water and I'd have 2400 concrete
But add 720 rubber and boom I have 3240 concrete, we have a winner

[hard ivy]

Eh, with depots distance is kinda irrelevant

[modest nest]

Yeah with depots but I do mini factories

[dense turtle]

same

i think after finishing this playthrough im gonna build a mega factory

[shy mulch]

My factory requires 2200 concrete, so I could make it work with wet concrete, but doing it with the rubber that was spare anyway means I now have 1000 concrete spare for other things, which is handy as I'm always running out when throwing up blueprints

[topaz shale]

It is actually quite nice being able to turn any heavy oil residue into power.

[dense turtle]

yessss

i got pure alum alt

finally

[heavy pine]

Last night I set up a wet concrete facility just to upload more to the depot for my construction projects.

[shy mulch]

add more 😄

no such thing as 'too much concrete' 😄

[modest nest]

I got to tier 8 uploading like 15 concrete a minute

[shy mulch]

Wow 😒

[dense turtle]

ayo this alts are actually crazy i can make 50 alclad sheets and 50 casings per minute using 80 coal and 130 bauxite lmao

[heavy pine]

There's another pure limestone node in the area; I'm planning to use that for a heavy modular frame facility.

[shy mulch]

I'm uploading 960 concrete/min through 4 dimentional depots and sometimes still run out lol

[dense turtle]

i guess might as well make 150 per minute and set a sink there

[modest nest]

Holy

I didn't have any issues with only 15 a minute, I don't think I ran out once while building

[heavy pine]

I'm thinking of setting up a dedicated ore smelting site on the west coast where there's plenty of water for the Pure variants of the smelting recipes.

[placid stirrup]

All the aluminum based alts simply add more resources or remove them to provide a corollary output

[shy mulch]

if you're not using blueprints then that's perfectly reasonable amount, but when you start stamping out repeatable blueprints the amount you use can very easily go through the roof

[modest nest]

I wasn't, but I will be this time, I'll make more concrete this time

[dense turtle]

wait i still need water tho oops

[modest nest]

Planning on restarting today

[hard ivy]

only need 117 baux and 12 oil if you use the electrode alt

[hard ivy]

and copper

[dense turtle]

copper is close

aight im good

[heavy pine]

I should probably set up a Versatile Framework site at some point. That one's hard to manually feed materials to since it requires so much steel.

[modest nest]

I'd like to start now but I'm on a train for the next hour and a half

[woeful hedge]

Question for the room, use vehicles? or skip and go straight to trains? I played a bit before 1.0 and remember the route recording was a lil janky.

[heavy pine]

Games like this tend to not get along with the way my brain works. I keep getting distracted mid-project. Like I had suspended coal and ore extraction for my steel plant in preparation to upgrade it, but got busy doing something else and then wondered why I was running out of steel beams.

[dense turtle]

i didnt use vehicles at all but i heard they are useful

[modest nest]

I used a few drones but I think this next time I'll end up using them more

[heavy pine]

I used a few trucks on my last run. I'm setting up a larger road network for this one, but I might skip to trains.

[modest nest]

I just struggle with supplying fuel to the vehicles

[heavy pine]

That's part of why I'm thinking trains. They just get juice from the power grid.

[modest nest]

Like how am I supposed to fuel a truck that's all the way up a mountain

[storm talon]

The tractor is useful for having a workbench in far flung places.

[woeful hedge]

oh shit, that'll make me dependent on biofuel again until I get petrol going... Skipping it lol

[heavy pine]

I just made a blueprint with a MAM, crafting bench, and equipment workshop for that sort of thing. Plop it down, do some crafting/research, dismantle it and move on.

[azure linden]

q -> special -> workbench, i never used vehicles in my saves, always skipped to trains

[modest nest]

Yeah if there was more electrical options for fuel I think I'd use vehicles more often

Or if I was building a mega factory

[azure linden]

if i need something less than 500m away, i use belts and a pole schematic, anything over that is trains/drones lol

[storm talon]

@modest nest lost one of my tractors in abyss cliffs and it's still there

[willow glen]

honestly I’d go 1km before I really consider trains but it depends on the layout; sometimes 400m of that is through something I’ve already built, or is just otherwise a terrible spot to put a train (lookin at you Abyss Cliffs)

[modest nest]

Huh, you should go find it

[storm talon]

I mean I'd rather not go back to abyss cliffs

[azure linden]

tbh i placed more tractors/cybertrucks for lagging my friends server than to actually use xD

[willow glen]

have 100 of them deliver coal just to power themselves in a loop

[modest nest]

Oh wait right coal is a fuel

[azure linden]

perpetuum coale

[unkempt blade]

cyberwagons are immoral, you should be using factory carts instead

[modest nest]

And there's compacted coal

[storm talon]

OH, I built an entire hyper tube setup to go to the western dune forests to make a factory for my foundries, and then discovered there was no iron anywhere close to nearby

[willow glen]

I don’t know how anyone drives one even as a joke after 1.0. At least in u8 it was still kinda drivable, just weird

[azure linden]

cybertrucks were faster to place

just a foundation high in air, place on one end, repeat

[storm talon]

But on the other hand I found quartz deposits

[willow glen]

Oh wait can they use tractor routes? (Routes specifically recorded with a tractor)

[topaz shale]

Huh?

[azure linden]

grow a garden tag, might troll

@dense turtle same as few days ago with the other guy xD

[white dawn]

They were unintentionally improved in U8 due to the engine change + vehicle-handling rewrite; they were worse prior to that too. They just got "fixed" for 1.0. :) (Though they are different in 1.0+ than they were in U7 and earlier)

[dense turtle]

lmao

[modest nest]

I'm also going to use hypertube cannons for transport this time

[dense turtle]

say the n word 3 times and u will get a gift

[topaz shale]

The guy who just didn't know how to play the game and might have been 10? What a strange individual.

[storm talon]

[unkempt blade]

<@&387163995947270144> this is one for you I guess

[dense turtle]

it was interesting tho

[north cloud]

!ban 1334347181007700029 troll

[fossil ice]

ryanisflying14 was banned. | troll

[dense turtle]

ryan did fly

[willow glen]

blessed mod

[north cloud]

anyone else need a boot out for being an idiot?

[azure linden]

i'm on a highwaaaay to hell

[topaz shale]

Joins chat. Curses. Gets banned. Crazy

[modest nest]

The left half of my brain

[north cloud]

best i can do is a no strings productivity mute for time of your choice

[azure linden]

your left and my right half lol

[willow glen]

Well, even in u8 they weren’t very reliable lol, but I could see automating them as a joke at least. But now, nah, I don’t even unlock em

[dense turtle]

how do u guys get roads?

for cars

[modest nest]

Haha nah I need this interaction, this train ride is boring

[woeful hedge]

I missed the dramallama

[storm talon]

You guys had roads?

[azure linden]

rn i'm procrasting about starting the alu facility so i just sit here xD

[dense turtle]

oh i figured it out myself

[modest nest]

Lmao, I'm on a train irl rn

[white dawn]

You can build your own roads if you want, using foundations and such. Vehicles tend to work better on the map's "natural" roads, though

[storm talon]

It was funny tbh he just came in and started randomly cursing

[white dawn]

And building your own roads negates one of the biggest advantages of vehicles: very little infrastructure needing to be built

[azure linden]

** insert "you guys get paid? *

[dense turtle]

i meant like roads literally with asphalt and lines

[mortal ginkgo]

I love how this game's code is so wack that I read the opposite somewhere else 😛

[mortal ginkgo]

there is asphalt texture you can get from awesomeshop

[keen oriole]

controller switching is still not perfect. when the controllers unplugged yes it switched to KBM But when you plug it back in, it should turn back on . I don't wanna have to use the mouse in the options menu to turn my GamePad on that's absolutely wild. is this the 90s is this a coleco vision?

[modest nest]

Yeah people build them with foundations and customize the colors in the blueprint thing

[white dawn]

Asphalt is a texture you can apply with the customizer, and the lines are from the AWESOME shop (also applied via customizer)

[dense turtle]

yeah thats why i said i figured it out

[unkempt blade]

depends on the vehicles, factory carts very much do not like non-foundations

[white dawn]

Heh, true true. :)

[mortal ginkgo]

we kek at cart users anyway. Get kek'ed, noob.

[white dawn]

Except when going backwards! (If that is still a thing)

[willow glen]

I have never used my controller to play the game but it still vibrates anyway, even if I turn it off the setting doesn’t stick. I use a blanket for it now

[unkempt blade]

I've developed an immunity from being chronically online too long. Your keks don't phase me! Carts are the supreme vehicle deal with it!

[mortal ginkgo]

God damnit. 😭

[rigid mist]

spent a half hour dragiing coal down a mountain just to realize that i still have the petrol coke steel recipe

[mortal ginkgo]

Also I wish we could use Carts to deliver fuel, like a special way.

[willow glen]

Trains have a lot of words for that, but if you mean foundation-based vehicles carry on

[modest nest]

Nice nice

[storm talon]

Does putting godmode on permanently disrupt vanilla progression?

[heavy pine]

AFAIK, it'll shoot achievements in the foot for that save.

[dense turtle]

u can disable mobs agression tho

[white dawn]

I don't think any of the AGS settings disrupt progression, apart from choosing what milestones to unlock by default, etc. AGS does disable achivements, though.

[storm talon]

Got it

[rigid mist]

i think that's in base gameplay settings without turning on godmode

[storm talon]

Was considering finding a way to unlock the hoverpack early 😩

[dense turtle]

yes thats what i meant

[rigid mist]

ah

[unkempt blade]

you could use the interactive map editor and just put a few in a storage container if you still want to do lower progress stuff just with a hoverpack

[limpid cairn]

how do you get vertical splitters?

[topaz shale]

Where did you start? Getting to oil isn't too difficult, thankfully. Depending on your starting location.

[storm talon]

Oil doesn't unlock hoverpack

Hold on

[modest nest]

You just place splitters or mergers on vertical conveyors

[storm talon]

Yeah it's tier 7

[topaz shale]

Sorry my mind read jetpack. Yeah hoverpack is a ways away.

[storm talon]

I might do that

IN MY DEFENSE

it's for organization purposes

[woeful hedge]

imo man, this game is VERY MUCH a "play your way" type of game

[topaz shale]

As long as you are having fun, then that is all that matters.

[sterile blade]

Aren't all single-player games like that, after all?

[modest nest]

An opinion lost to time

[topaz shale]

And it is definitely something that should be reminded every so often.

[latent hearth]

are vehicles faster with better fuel?

[topaz shale]

I also discovered the awesome of the satisfactory modeler.

[frail sleet]

drones are, others not

[hollow thunder]

Hi guys, I'm curious to know how many rails and junctions y'all use for mega factories I have a complex with 14+ trains, 12 out of the 14 trains are 8 long (2 engines and 6 cargo cars) and the other 2 are 14 long (2 engines and 12 cargo cars) my setup works 90% of the time now but I'm wondering if this issue will just get worse the more I build, my world is modded but this question isn't related to mods so I figured it was ok to ask here but I didn't want to attach the image of my complex if it's not ok

[limpid cairn]

guys is there a guide on how to see which input has priority in the pipe junctions?

[frail sleet]

If your trains are interfering with each other, you can create and signal additional optional paths. It also helps a lot to fork off of the main rail/s to stop at stations at the side, rather than having stations directly on the main rail/s.

[hollow thunder]

May I share my complex? (Idk the rules on posting anything with mods here)

[topaz shale]

just like in Factorio. Luckily got plenty of experience there so making rail networks shouldn't be too confusing.

[frail sleet]

You can, math and meta channel is probably easier as it allows screenshots and it's kind of a math issue 😄

Alternatively, Questions and Help thread with screenshots.

[hard ivy]

if you want to minimize traffic, all (most) trains should be set to only depart when empty/full. if that's setup correctly, they'll only drive their route when they absolutely need to and not a second earlier

do keep in mind that this requires additional considerations (1 kind of item per train/station, balancers on all stations)

[topaz shale]

Though what I'll use trains for, I'm not sure. Haven't had a need yet.

[hollow thunder]

Ok thank you guys

[topaz shale]

I am on my way to begin construction of the phase 3 parts to get to phase 4 so that is exciting.

[dense turtle]

why does it tell me to close the loop when im tryna record a route

for my truck

like right when i start the recording

[hard ivy]

it has to be a closed loop

if the start and end are different points, how is the truck supposed to keep driving?

[dense turtle]

yeah but i cant even start recording

maybe imma record

[modest nest]

Don't stop recording at one end, drive all the way back to where you started

[dense turtle]

but i cant drive

[modest nest]

Huh

[hard ivy]

did you put fuel in the truck?

[hollow thunder]

Hmm I was not aware of any other settings for trains besides the load and unload switch, also yes I have 1 item type per train except for the ones I have transporting packaged oil and nitrogen gas, those have the back 3 cars taking empty canisters back to the packing plants (ah I see them now thank you)

[dense turtle]

#1405925556993790036 message

aight there was sum invisible obstacle i blowed up the stop where it stops and it works now

[fluid sapphire]

when is CSS coming back

[white dawn]

There's no official "everyone is on holiday" and then "everyone is back," it's just a bunch of folks taking holidays at roughly the same time. Office attendance presumably looks somewhat inverted-bellcurveish

I expect people have been trickling back in for a little while now

[fluid sapphire]

ok well i just need someone to get in there real quick for a sec and fix the straight conveyor mode funky behavior

[topaz shale]

I'm gonna let my game idle for a few hours. Get some tickets going as well as let my small smart plating factory fill up for use later.

[hard ivy]

the signals too

[fluid sapphire]

yes, indeed

[hard ivy]

Like I have literally stopped playing the game because of the signals. I need to do a train soon and I ain't dealing with all that bullshit

[silk ocean]

KYO is the boss xD

[steady glade]

give up, do default for one section and see if the following one can be straight

[dense turtle]

do i have to recycle the water from aluminum scraps

[hard ivy]

you have to do something with it

[round vault]

what signals

[hard ivy]

using it for something useful is better than sinking it with wet concrete or w/e

[steady glade]

both

[dense turtle]

i wish i could just pour it back into the ocean and feed the mother nature

[fluid sapphire]

i am working on making 3000 copper and 7150 iron ingots with my waste water

i severely underestimated the scope of this project

[steady glade]

just how much waste water do you make?

[fluid sapphire]

3000 waste water

[modest nest]

From what

[round vault]

wasting water isnt good💔

[fluid sapphire]

9000 aluminum scrap from sloppy alumina

[silk ocean]

4975 Waste xD

[fluid sapphire]

yikes

[steady glade]

thats like 6 sets of copper refineries and around 15 for iron right?

[fluid sapphire]

sets? idk havent got that far, its 80 refineries for copper and 110 for iron

[steady glade]

i call sets how many it takes to fill up a mk5 belt

20 for copper and 12 for iron

[fluid sapphire]

i dont always max my belts, sometimes its more convenient to not to

well, often

[steady glade]

ye for copper it doesnt really work

[dense turtle]

dangggg i forgot about copper

i literally only need 50 per minute

and the closest one is 1200 meters away lmao

is there a splitter that i can set split 50 to this side and rest to that side?

priority splitter?

[hard ivy]

this you?

[dense turtle]

the copper that was supposed to be close is already being used lmao

i noticed it now but i have an overflow near a factory so im good

so worry not im fine

[dense turtle]

this guy who said not to always max my belts opened my mind

i can just use the worst one and get 60 per minute and it will be working fine

[sand spruce]

Why in the world would i use alt recepies that both need caterium and quartz. these 2 notes are always fucking far from eachother

[dense turtle]

yeah there are so many bad alts, i feel like half of the alts are only useful for a youtuber who'd make a video satisfactory but i can only use alternate recipes

[hard ivy]

sometimes they're close

but until the very engame, you can pretty much always use one or the other (or neither)

[sand spruce]

Silicon high speed connector and insulated crystal occiloators are praised no? both use quartz and caterium...

[hard ivy]

I would only use those in a spot that has all resources nearby

actually, that is true with any factory

[vestal flare]

I like that my save is named “This is a Satisfactory Factory”

[wet fox]

Mine is just EXPAND

[heavy pine]

Mine is "One Point One BAYBEE"

[vestal flare]

My older post when 1.0 cane out was “LETS GOOO 1.0 BABYYYY” and i made a terrible terrible mistake in my playthrough

So i was playing along with imkibits’s playthrough, and i wanted to know what it’d be like if i did what he did but put every machine to the max with sloops

[heavy pine]

I'm somewhat tempted to install a "FICSMAS all year long" mod to add that stuff to my factory.

250% OC + full sloops is gonna be a ton of power.

[vestal flare]

And i made a turbofuel powerplant using the refinery diluted fuel recipe. I USED MK4 BELTS. I HAD 46 BELTS OF PACKAGED FUEL TO PROCESS.

[vestal flare]

Eh the past one made 430k megawatts

The more recent one im doing(shown in math chat) is slightly better, as im no longer packaging and transporting water to refineries

(Using blender recipe instead)

[heavy pine]

I'm holding off on going beyond 12GW or so until I get blenders and can make the diluted fuel without shuffling packaged fluids around.

[vestal flare]

Yeah, thats what im doin for my 1.1

[hard ivy]

eh, with a decent DPF BP, it's almost like a blender

[true mulch]

yeah you can make a 1:1:1 DPF module

and just repeat it as many times you need

[heavy pine]

I did that on my 1.0 run. Come to think of it, I don't remember why I opted not to use that blueprint in this run.

[true mulch]

and by the time you get to blenders, go all in and make rocket fuel

your DPF power plant can be relatively small (even 150 m3 oil will provide quite a lot)

[heavy pine]

Maybe I'll upgrade it; I think I started that facility before I unlocked Mk2 pipes.

[spiral summit]

guys whats a good way to make fake smoke

[heavy pine]

I kinda wish there was a way to place a blueprint without having all the parts needed, just don't place the parts of the blueprint that are missing parts.

[knotty smelt]

Do water pumps stack their pushing power?

[steady glade]

nope

[knotty smelt]

Well thats going to make this build fun

[steady glade]

it takes the max one before a pump

[hard ivy]

... read the description

[knotty smelt]

Oop

[vestal flare]

It’s using all 2250 oil in the blue crater

[tired horizon]

hey, we're kind of in the need of electricity but we only have a tiny lake so we can have 1 pump running, and that can only support 5 coal factories (overclocked) and that still isnt enough so we have to rely on biomass burners, anyone have something that could help us? (the nearest lake is rly far, and doesnt have coal near it) except running water 50km

[vestal flare]

And all machines have max sloops

[heavy pine]

Head lift doesn't stack like that. As I understand it, each pump you place resets the head lift. So you'd want to put pumps at right about the height of your current lift.

[dense turtle]

AYO

hoverpack is actually insane

[steady glade]

holy shit how much power are you making?

[tired horizon]

phase 2 isnt complete yet

[vestal flare]

Rn? 180k. Im not even close to being done making the fuel gens for the reg excess fuel. And i gotta make a LOT of gens for turbofuel

[steady glade]

if you're talking about the tiny lake and coal patch south of the grass fields, you'll have to give up on that, go explore north, theres a bigger lake and loads of coal there

[tired horizon]

yes, but we already have all our stuff here, is it the only way to drag the power/water/coal from there?

[heavy pine]

You'll have to expand in this game. Run a bunch of standard power poles out there to get juice to and from.

[tired horizon]

or just move entirely?

[steady glade]

you can simply drag power around, there is coal and water north, just have poles/towers

you dont have to have factories close to power gens

[dense turtle]

yeah towers are nice

[steady glade]

are you on tier 6 or 7?

[tired horizon]

okay, thanks which lake is the best for sub 1000MW production? (nearest)

[dense turtle]

wait how do i get gas filter

i skipped that

[hard ivy]

MAM

[dense turtle]

fungi tree?

[heavy pine]

Research it in the Mycelia tree in the MAM.

[dense turtle]

yeah mycelia

[hard ivy]

remember to grab synthetic fabric while you're there

at least if you want to automate filters

[steady glade]

||-850, 1500||

[heavy pine]

I'd rather automate nobelisks than air filters. Remove the problem permanently.

[hard ivy]

you still need filters to do nuclear

[steady glade]

its a lot more than what you wanted but its the easiest to set up either way

[dense turtle]

yeah thats what i need it for

i dont really even know what do i get mycelia from

[heavy pine]

True, and that's what I waited for before I automated them.

[hard ivy]

find it in the world

[heavy pine]

Bring your chainsaw

[hard ivy]

but you only need a bit to unlock synthetic fabric

[dense turtle]

is it on trees?

[heavy pine]

Does turning on godmode make you immune to radiation? I presume so, but haven't tried it.

[dense turtle]

oh it it trees

i mean huge mushrooms

[heavy pine]

Tree-like fungi, yeah. Big ol' shrooms.

[dense turtle]

yeah i got it

[steady glade]

go to the red jungle, there's a lot of fungi there lmao

[empty blade]

Mushroom!

[heavy pine]

Badger?

[acoustic heart]

I wanna know the sick person that thought it was a cool idea to put SAM ore nodes in caves with spiders

[steady glade]

that big jumpy boi?

[acoustic heart]

Oh.. theres more than one big jumpy boi

[steady glade]

if that make you feel better, you could stack 10 foundations and they'd still reach you

[dense turtle]

its pretty funny that i learned how to get mycelia 100 hours in

[twilit escarp]

guys, can someone remember me how to make a pipe priority junction?

[white dawn]

The pipeline manual will show you the way to do the VIP Junction: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/3/39/Pipeline_Manual.pdf

Though I recommend instead building your pipe networks in such a way that you don't need priority junctions. They can be finnicky

[twilit escarp]

well, what i do with the water for aluminium?

[white dawn]

If you're doing a system like aluminum where you're thinking of merging "fresh" and "recycled" liquids, I'd recommend Not Doing That™. Instead, use a completely separate bank of machines to process the recycled liquid

[twilit escarp]

(aluminium scrap)

#screenshots message

[white dawn]

Heh, figured it was probably aluminum. :) A small vanilla-recipe example: #math-and-meta message

[white dawn]

Modeller screenshots are absolute ass at conveying information to other people, btw.

[twilit escarp]

i just want to make a simple aluminium production

then later one i will make a more robust factory

[white dawn]

If you're not the one who made the graph, those images are practically useless. Requires way too much trying to discern tiny icons to even know what's being made, let alone what recipes are in use, etc.

[twilit escarp]

i just need the aluminium to get started

[white dawn]

Anyway, as I say, i recommend a situation like the one I linked to.

Process the fresh + recycled totally separate from each other

It does help to pre-flood the "recycled" pipes with water first so that the system starts off at 100%

[twilit escarp]

hoo

like a refinery just for the reused

wait i got an idea

[white dawn]

Yes; see the link I posted

[twilit escarp]

using a smart splitter

to make the resources first on the recicled ones

[white dawn]

No need for a smart splitter, just have different banks of machines for fresh vs. recycled

[twilit escarp]

naa

[white dawn]

(Again, see the link I sent)

[twilit escarp]

rn i am using a single node

[white dawn]

So am I, on that example

[twilit escarp]

i was talking about bauxite usage

[white dawn]

(Also, a smart splitter isn't going to help you with liquids unless you package and then unpackage them. Which is certainly a choice, but it's still simpler to just have separate banks of machines)

[twilit escarp]

making sure bauxite goes first on the reused water

[white dawn]

Yes, as am I. My link was a small vanilla-recipe aluminum plant which was just taking from a single bauxite node

[twilit escarp]

so that the water doesnt fill up the system

[white dawn]

You don't need to do anything fancy with the bauxite; just manifold it in across all the Alumina Solution recipes just like anything else

The only real difference is that you're keeping the fresh + recycled liquids separate, so that you can avoid a lot of potential fluid debugging

[twilit escarp]

ic

but my question is: how did you got to the 2:1 ratio?

[white dawn]

The machines were probably underclocked so that the numbers match properly

Basically: figure out how many Alumina Solution refineries you'd need, and just kind of pretend that they're all taking in fresh water. (Call that water usage X.) That will plug into however many Aluminum Scrap refineries you need, which will produce a certain amount of water (call that Y)

So then you have a few refineries which need X - Y fresh water, so you set those up (possibly underclocking them so they take in the exact amount)

And then another set of refineries which uses the Y recycled water (again, possibly underclocking them so they take in the exact amount)

(Or, of course, you can overclock instead of underclock if you want fewer machines)

[twilit escarp]

so, with my current system, i need 1,5 refineries for all bauxite

and it produces 180 water

meaning i use 1 for reused water and 1 for fresh water?

[white dawn]

It looks like in my example, which takes in 240/min Bauxite, I'd actually clocked all three of the Alumina Solution refineries to 66.6667%. Rounding errors be damned! :D

(So I was taking in a total 240/min fresh, and 120/min recycled)

[dense turtle]

im needing 250 water and produce recycled 150 so i feed the one full 125 and give the other one 30 and using only one generator that makes 95 water

[twilit escarp]

what is making me confused rn is that with my math, i will use less refineries than you?

when i have more intake?

(not taking overclocking/underclocking in consideration)

[white dawn]

So if your Alumina Solution refineries combined need 250/min water, and the Aluminum Scrap step produces 150/min recycled, then your freshwater refineries need 100/min

[versed plinth]

how on earth am i supposed to make a remotely large quantity of quantum encoders

the only way they fit is by tilting them in the designer

[dense turtle]

oh im sure my math in game is correct i must have said smth wrong here

[twilit escarp]

Based on my math, i only need 2 refineries making alumina soluction

[white dawn]

They certainly don't play nicely with blueprints, no. What I ended up doing was having a set of "scaffolding" blueprints with various things pre-set-up, and ended up just hand-placing the actual QEs inside them. (I like each QE to have its own EPM-producing converter downclocked as appropriate, and generally its own accelerator to process the DMR (also downclocked). More buildings overall but I like the symmetry)

[twilit escarp]

using sloppy alumina

[versed plinth]

it seems like a slight oversight tbh. could've been 5 tiles long instead and it wouldn't suck

[white dawn]

Could be; that or they figure most folks aren't building too many of the suckers, so it didn't matter as much. :)

[versed plinth]

yeah but this is a factory game...

[white dawn]

Working with QEs in general was definitely an interesting design challenge, blueprints or no

The things defy most of my usual build conventions. :D

[white dawn]

It'd help to have the exact numbers you're working with (and the exact recipes, though I know you just mentioned Sloppy). A #1038092680493801533 thread or posting in #math-and-meta might be good, too, so images can be inlined.

You can definitely adapt it to any of the recipes, though -- here's a bigger example on a factory doing Electrode + Sloppy: #screenshots message

[versed plinth]

also should i start using logistics floors hmm

i haven't been but i might try it

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, its a cool concept

without that its just like any other factory game tbh

hiding belts has its own... beauty

[dense turtle]

what is logistics floors

oh i know what it is

[mortal ginkgo]

another floor below the factories where belts etc are

[heavy pine]

Hide your spaghetti under the rug

[mortal ginkgo]

but I make it look good below too 😭

[versed plinth]

nah

[heavy pine]

I try to, but sometimes I'll hit a wall and just want to be done with a project, so I'll have some uniform belt lines with a bit of spaghetti woven through the middle.

[mortal ginkgo]

bro blz

[versed plinth]

i generally do have pretty clean belts tbh

i like the straight function its nice

[mortal ginkgo]

having like 10m height works wonder to be honest. It makes the logistic floor large but lets you fight less with yourself and with space

[heavy pine]

It can be maddening when straight belts refuse to connect because they're too steep when they're actually flat, and they connect just fine if you connect the other end first.

[dense turtle]

i just got an idea of creating a factory with one big sushi in the middle it would look so cool

[heavy pine]

I think my logistics floors are 8m tall.

[mortal ginkgo]

Good enough

[heavy pine]

I haven't tried using vertical splitters and mergers anywhere yet. I might have to poke at that to have a vertical manifold or something.

[dense turtle]

yeah they are cool

[visual cosmos]

I completely forgot that was a thing

I've been using splitter in front of machines with different lifts bringing items to them

Welp

[topaz shale]

Yeah they are nice. I use them to help move resources to where they are needed on the next floor since I use a tower build system for my factories. Makes transitions between floors easier to plan.

[heavy pine]

Reject logistics floors. Embrace logistics walls.

[versed plinth]

bro

my whole train network is built on the 5x5 grid

but now im using 6x6 ;-;

[visual cosmos]

I just dont use logistics floors

[visual cosmos]

Why swap

[versed plinth]

because quantum encoders are too thicc

and also because there are a LOT of things you can do with 6x6

[heavy pine]

time to move to a 30x30 grid so both sizes fit.

[versed plinth]

FR

ok but actually ig i just redo it as i go?

[heavy pine]

Well that's annoying. I have a blueprint from a previous save that I can load into the Mk2 designer, but if I try to replace the power tower on the platform it tells me that it's overlapping the designer.

I guess I'll have to wait until I get the Mk3 designer before I can tweak that blueprint.

[junior flower]

Anyone with big truck bases? How do you make sure they dont crash into eachother when you get many?

[steady glade]

skill issue? drive better

[junior flower]

Crossings?

[shell jasper]

yo guys

[steady glade]

roundabouts or clovers

[steady glade]

yo

[hard ivy]

the best way to prevent trucks from crashing is to use 1 or less

[shell jasper]

i need ideas of like, what to animate with the pioneer

[steady glade]

obvisously stingers and cliff hogs

animate a safari where the pionneer discovers the fauna

[shell jasper]

sur if i can find models of it

thanks

[steady glade]

they discover nature's a bitch, coma back with weapons before realizing there's always a bigger predator

[shell jasper]

even better, will keep in mind, thanks

[acoustic heart]

I just about exhausted my entire iron plate storage to unlock tier 6 belts. wth

[green fiber]

Average Peak Efficiency moment

[acoustic heart]

I was actually affraid I wasnt going to have enough. I havent touched my iron plate factory since the beginning of the game and I know its not producing a whole lot lol

[shy fog]

technically you don't have to care much about trucks crashing, only trains

[white dawn]

I generally try to keep intersections/merges at less than 90°; keeping set "lanes" is helpful as well. "Drive-through" style stations are generally the best way to go, so that you've got dedicated entrances+exits, etc.

And yeah, some collisions might end up happening regardless, but the vehicles should auto-recover

[hard ivy]

the fact that the milestone called "Peak Efficiency" unlocks Ficsonium, the second least efficient power source, is peak humor

[green fiber]

They knew what they were doin

[white dawn]

IME vehicles are actually pretty good at giving each other room when they're all merging onto a laned "highway" (I don't actually build roads; just referring to common avenues that a lot of routes share) when you're merging in at like 45-60° or so

Though I've also not had actual problems with having lanes cross each other at 90°. You may get a collision sometimes but vehicles are quite resilient nowadays; they'll recover eventually