satisfactory

[silk ocean]

I think real trains have brakes on all of the wagons so in RL I'm not so sure, but in Satis, maybe xD

[boreal musk]

unless youre going at slope

[exotic pilot]

is taht a rocket league reference

[silk ocean]

It was a real life reference XD

[exotic pilot]

ew

[storm talon]

i still do not know how to make wires not be spaghetti

[silk ocean]

When you say pulling up, you mean like stopping?

or pulling up a hill xD

[storm talon]

i guess im making a megafactory currently. i did not want to make a megafactory

but we all have things we dont want

[boreal musk]

1 poles/machine does the job, and i always strict myself to that

[storm talon]

noted

[boreal musk]

hiding the wires through floor or ceiling also works

[storm talon]

true...

[boreal musk]

you can use beams for it too

[daring reef]

#screenshots message
dont tell me im meant to go down this

this really is a blue crater

[storm talon]

what's down there

[daring reef]

idk

[austere lichen]

a good lesson is down there

[storm talon]

go look

oh

[rustic otter]

well i just figured out my betteries wont start until i pull the fuse back

[daring reef]

i dont think this is where im meant to go

[rustic otter]

so i can keep builing until im ready

[daring reef]

ok

im at the blue crater

now what is the chain that gives the most power

[rustic otter]

chain?

quick question, can pumps push fluids down?

[daring reef]

why would u need that

gravity already does that

[daring reef]

like how do i turn the oil into power most efficiently

[rustic otter]

my pipes up top werent filling up and in the pump thing showing that it was going down

[boreal musk]

no

[rustic otter]

u can make 60 oil into 40 fuel/min with resin as a byproduct at 30 a minute

[rustic otter]

thx

[boreal musk]

liquid follows gravity

[rustic otter]

i think its just sloshing since i dont have power

[reef basin]

that depends what do you mean by "most efficiently"

if you mean "most power per oil", then it's alternate heavy oil residue -> diluted (packaged) fuel (though you need water for that)

[daring reef]

water is fine

most power per oil yeah

so heavy oil residue then diluted fuel

[shadow isle]

wheres SAM in the easy desert zone

[daring reef]

also wdym by packeged

[reef basin]

yeah, diluted or diluted packaged, doesn't matter

[rustic otter]

look on SCIM

[reef basin]

those are two different recipes

both have same HOR to fuel efficiency

one is available earlier but requires slightly more complex setup, one is available later but slightly simpler

[shadow isle]

its in a cave... guess im not having sam this playthrough

[rustic otter]

u dont realistically need it unless ur trying to DD, and if so just go somewhere else

[shadow isle]

time to cross the entire map and spaghetti it back 😭

[south lion]

Why not? It's not too difficult to get there

[rustic otter]

what do u need it for?

[shadow isle]

mainly somersloop so i can get more power shards per slug

[rustic otter]

like research?

[shadow isle]

ye

[rustic otter]

just empty ur inventory, go mining on a sam node, and come back to ur inventory full of sam

ask while u wait

[daring reef]

idk what to do with all that polymer resin

[noble stratus]

what factories do you guys set up in the "Rocky Desert"? specifically at the 2 normal/ 2 impure coal nodes in the top left

with the 4 pure iron nodes.

[rustic otter]

combine it with water for plastic and rubber

[daring reef]

idk how ill transfer all that a train will be a pain

[rustic otter]

i could see a hmf factory, or a motor one

[daring reef]

i do need plastic and rubber but trains will be a paim

[noble stratus]

Hmf?

[rustic otter]

can u not do it on site?make it one site

[rustic otter]

heavy modular frames

[noble stratus]

im at tier 4 currently

[daring reef]

the plastic will be useless in blue crater most likely

ill have to plan it out and see for now ill just sink it

[rustic otter]

sink it if u want to

[mortal dirge]

Y’all ever wonder why you have no steel beams coming into your main factory for a long time, add some production capacity, and then afterwards realize it’s cause your freight platform was set to load instead of unload? Yeah, me neither.

[noble stratus]

okay. though currently im only at modular frames

[rustic otter]

u will be on hmf here soon

[daring reef]

so after the heavy oil residue recipe

[rustic otter]

it is a pain

[daring reef]

i turn the heavy oil into fuel right

[rustic otter]

u can

[daring reef]

residuel fuel recipe

[noble stratus]

ive got 5 hard drives in my mam remaining to choose from so far. one says solid steel ingot. it looks pretty good.

[rustic otter]

and then if u want to further optimize it u can turn that fuel into turbo fuel by combining it with compacted coal, u need to do some research tho

[noble stratus]

60 steel per min

[rustic otter]

take it

[noble stratus]

can i dm you what i have to choose from for the others?

[rustic otter]

yeah

[stable warren]

how much genearator should i use and how much water extractor (I got 3 coal node 2 pure and 1 impure) :p

[hard ivy]

Coal gens are usually best built in multiples of 8

[hard ivy]

Diluted fuel is much better

[daring reef]

ok

[reef basin]

all recipes are "good", depending on what you prefer

[reef basin]

well, better, but more complex. If you want just simple fuel production and/or are not near water, residual is fine

[boreal musk]

sink them until you need it

[halcyon raft]

or you can put slugs back on a ground?

[daring reef]

why would u want to do that

[halcyon raft]

becouse you no need them

its good decoration around base

if they let them put on ground

[reef basin]

you can place any item on the ground by dragging out of inventoory

[limpid cairn]

Can anyone recommend good satisfactory content creators?

[reef basin]

no 😄

[silk rose]

watched totalxclipse couple years ago

[naive pendant]

What Darren Plays has chill Satisfactory playthroughs. Really depends what you like.

[halcyon raft]

just beating dog so women say how bad i am :}

[keen oriole]

?

[steady glade]

dont bother

[crimson sundial]

Let's Game It Out has the proper way to play obviously.
Hey there, it's Josh

[scenic mirage]

bruh why are pipes so dumb? im trying fuel my generators and the fuel isnt actually going into the generators, its just getting stuck in the refineries

[reef basin]

pipes are not dumb 😉

make a screenshot or more and post them in #1038092680493801533

(and add info on how much you're producing and such)

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
im running 15 refineries at 133.33% to output 53.33 fuel each, and i have 16 generators at 250% each so im making and using 800 fuel/min

[reef basin]

I mean I specifically said #1038092680493801533 🙂

[scenic mirage]

the fuel isnt actually leaving the refineries on the ones further from the stairs and my energy charts all over the place

oh sorry 😅

[steady glade]

put the pump slightly below the refineries' top cylinder (not the smoke stack) , that orange part below marks the 10m mark

[silk ocean]

Do you put your Power Towers on foundations, or do you accept that 1 leg might be a floater and you are destined for failure like me? xD

[stiff vector]

Can somebody please help with changing my max player count to 8? i have triied going into the game file and using the line stated here: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Multiplayer#Sessions_with_more_than_4_players but nothing is working

[steady glade]

i dont care that leg floats as long as the wires let me travel and the towers are properly spread

[silk ocean]

This is a good philosophy

[steady glade]

otherwise you might as well sink the legs

[red sun]

I put them in a lower dip in the terrain and nudge them so that the legs embed into the ground

[steady glade]

that would look more natural than those goofy big shoes

[silk ocean]

This is good, I should do this xD

[true mulch]

have you restarted the game?

[slow kindle]

I have a problem:
I can't craft non-fissle uranium because there's too much water, I don't have anything to do with the spare water
RN the water I generate I just put back to generating the nitric Acid but at a certain point it stopped.
What do I do ?

[true mulch]

pump less water to begin with

[steady glade]

separate output water from input water

[true mulch]

water consumption = recycled water + fresh water

[hard ivy]

with both non-fissile uranium recipes, you can just do a closed loop
with default, you use them water on one of the acids
with the alt, you use it on both

[silk ocean]

Use valves to restrict the non-recycled water

[true mulch]

don't use valves ever 😭

[steady glade]

valves are a bad solution

[silk ocean]

xD

Boo xD

[steady glade]

1. the value they show isnt the exact value that passes

[slow kindle]

Like the nitric acid and the fissle itself?

[true mulch]

that was fixed, the problem is that they limit flow proportionally

[steady glade]

since when??

[true mulch]

1.0

[steady glade]

really??

[slow kindle]

Also I have an extra source of water going into the nitric acid

[true mulch]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Valve#History

[hard ivy]

default non-fissile takes 6 of each acid, and spits out 6 water. 1 acid is made entirely with byproduct water, the other entirely with fresh

[true mulch]

that means you have to kickstart it right?

[steady glade]

my aluminum has been shit for a while now and i have to pump less water than i planned for otherwiser it stops

[true mulch]

but if you make half and half, it'll be able to start on its own

[hard ivy]

well, yeah, just fill the pipes and then disonnect it. that's what I did and it worked fine

[silk ocean]

Valves in my Alu plant work perfectly at least XD Shots fired

[slow kindle]

oh so I have to make the water go into the nitric acid recipe AND sulfuric acid?

[true mulch]

"it works on my machine" doesn't mean they work in every use case

[silk ocean]

My machine is a very super special one where it's like valve heaven XD

[slow kindle]

It only spits out 15water /m while nitric acid itself takes 30water /m
how does that make sense?

[hard ivy]

both acids use water? like what else do you want to do?

[slow kindle]

yeah just confirming

[hard oasis]

how much aluminum casings and sheets should i be making a min?

[silk ocean]

However many you need xD

[true mulch]

actually now that I think about it, I think I did that too

[steady glade]

fir sheets you want 2-3 machines for personnal use

[hard ivy]

the rate per minute doesn't matter. it just means a different number of machines. the non-fissile takes 6 nitric acid, which takes 6 water, and spits out 6 water. you put the 6 water back into 6 water and the loop is closed. just need to add enough water to start it. you can also loop the water into sulfuric acid instead, it's also 6->6->6

[steady glade]

after that there are other recipes tht nee it

[reef basin]

that doesn't change the fact that they are either pointless or break systems in 99% of cases (can be pointless in your case even)

[reef basin]

10/min of each

[slow kindle]

Nitric acid only needs 3 tho

[pulsar bobcat]

Hello folks

[hard oasis]

is this alot?

[pulsar bobcat]

How the hell does a dual line train system work?

[hard ivy]

1 water for 1 acid.

[true mulch]

nah aluminum parts are pretty cheap

[slow kindle]

oh, right
thanks

[silk ocean]

I did spin a bit of a valve-love story... what happened in reality is the abominations got thrown into the hellfires of doom and I underclocked the water extractors instead XD

[reef basin]

should be enough for most personal use-case

[steady glade]

i find that fairly low

[hard oasis]

it doesn't seem to hard to make 100 of each

[steady glade]

not if you start using blueprints

[reef basin]

yeah but you won't use 100s of each (consistently)

[true mulch]

two tracks, each signaled with block signals that force the driving direction
make a #1038092680493801533 if you want to ask with pictures

[reef basin]

that's where buffers come in play

[hard ivy]

I'm making 225 casings and 240 sheets for personal use

[hard oasis]

yeah but it seems better to make 100 of each then 10 of each

[reef basin]

well again that's your choice

[true mulch]

your containers will pile up and then what

if you want to sink it, sure I guess, I just wouldn't do it with alu casings and sheets

[hard oasis]

what one is more usefull?

[pulsar bobcat]

Im wondering how it's setup is it like there's a central dual line system with incoming and outgoing rails? Cus right now my system is just one factory to another

[true mulch]

you won't be using 100 of each every single minute, after you have a container of each piled up you'll likely never run out

[scenic mirage]

looks like that fixed it, thank you so much 🤝

[true mulch]

if you make a thread I can share a screenshot of my track layout

[pulsar bobcat]

K

[hard oasis]

i swear mk5 belts use sheets so

[true mulch]

they do, doesn't defeat my point

make 30/min then

unless you're building really huge blueprints all over the place this will never be an issue

[hard ivy]

when I was making 120/min, I was running out when building factories in U8
I make 240 now and it's enough

[pulsar bobcat]

Done

[reef basin]

wdym more useful?

[hard oasis]

but like its so simple to make 100 its only like 24 buildings

[hard oasis]

what one is more usefull to have 100 of

[hard ivy]

both

[reef basin]

depends which one you'll use more for building

(aka which buildings will you build more often)

[true mulch]

I don't know how to answer this, it depends on how quickly you're building stuff and how much stuff you have buffered

"make less and expand if you need to"

[steady glade]

sheets are nice to have when you blueprint machines, for example i used over a hundreds encased beams at a time for my stacked machines, casings are an otherwise fairly often used building mat

[hard ivy]

casings are mostly needed for blenders - 50 for each one
sheets are needed for nuke plants and mk5 belts

[hard oasis]

it doesnt seem hard enough not to make 100 pm so i might aswell just do that

[slow kindle]

What can you do with plutonium waste pre-tier9?

[quiet gust]

Store itt

[steady glade]

drink it

[gilded goblet]

guys do I scale power with nuclear or fuel gens

[hard ivy]

I'd choose a more convenient number than exactly 100, but sure, why not

[steady glade]

yes

[slow kindle]

Until rhodium?

[hard oasis]

like what?

[steady glade]

240

[quiet gust]

You mean ficsonium

[steady glade]

max dd speed

[hard ivy]

Depends on the recipes, but whatever is an integer multiple of what 1 machine produces

[quiet gust]

Either

[slow kindle]

yeah yeah

😭

[hard oasis]

24 or 48 buildings

[gilded goblet]

how much of a pain in the ass is nuclear

[steady glade]

try it its really fun

[quiet gust]

Or just store it eternally, ficsonium nets no power and uses a shit ton of sam

[gilded goblet]

i'm assuming plutonium is the better alternative for me rn bc I dont have fic yet

[quiet gust]

Not

[slow kindle]

wait does ficsonuim actually give no power 💀

[hard ivy]

Sheets are made at 30/min by one assembler, so make 90 or 120

[white dawn]

Uranium processing is quite straightforward. Plutonium is a bit less so, and Ficsonium a bit less so than that

[gilded goblet]

my friend made it seem like a metric pain in the ass

[hard ivy]

Not 0, but very little

[dense violet]

a bit. not a lot for the work though

[hard oasis]

and casings>?

[quiet gust]

Yeah and just sink plutonium fuel rods (you can only sink the fuel)

[dense violet]

not much

[white dawn]

Ficsonium is about 33% efficient. It's quite low, yeah, but it's not nothing

[gilded goblet]

could I setup a nuclear plant to produce 100GW in 12 hours

[slow kindle]

So just store plotunim waste forever?

[quiet gust]

More than I thought tbh

[hard ivy]

60 or 120 if you use default casings
112.5 if you use the alt

[steady glade]

2 machines are enough for personnal use, there are not a ton of machines that need it

[quiet gust]

I mean you can, depends on your scale, in a maxed out plant you have to sloop reanimated sam

[hard ivy]

that's the easier and more efficient option, yes

[slow kindle]

Theres nothing else to do with it?

[quiet gust]

No

[slow kindle]

Kinda sucks

[white dawn]

Or, y'know, go ahead and do Ficsonium

[hard oasis]

#math-and-meta message

[dense violet]

no one forces you to burn plutonium rods

[white dawn]

A lot of folks hate it for various (IMO unreasonable) reasons. It's very SAM-heavy, yes -- if you're building a really huge nuclear buildout then it's possible there might not be enough SAM on the map to fully Ficsonium your Pu Waste. But if you want to burn your Plutonium and have clean nuclear, it's great.

[gilded goblet]

clean nuclear?

[white dawn]

(That said, Plutonium Waste storage is not a big deal; slap down a few ISC grid blueprints and you'll be peachy (but, y'know, do the math first to know how much time each ISC blueprint gets you)

[silk ocean]

Well, finished processing the 42 hard drives from my achievement run.. the only ones remaining now are the annoying "power required" ones here and there XD

[slow kindle]

but then you deal with uranium waste that generates 5x waste and im missing out on power

[gilded goblet]

Did they remove the fact that you used to be able to just sink waste

[white dawn]

You've never been able to sink waste

[gilded goblet]

i swear i seen someone talking about it

[white dawn]

Nope

They could've had a mod or something

[gilded goblet]

how do you even deal with waste then

[slow kindle]

generate the next tier of nuclear power

[white dawn]

You can sink Plutonium Fuel Rods. Prior to Ficsonium, that was the only "clean" nuclear option

[gilded goblet]

ah

[white dawn]

Make the Plutonium Rods, and then choose to sink them rather than use them for more power

[dense violet]

then you have to suck it up , either get more power and deal with waste or don't

it's very easy to have more than enough power just from waste though

[gilded goblet]

it was the fuel rods they were talking about then

[silk ocean]

Flush down toilet xD

[gilded goblet]

should I just wait till t9 to make a nuclear plant then? so I can just use fic

[dense violet]

why? you can make plutonium very quickly

[white dawn]

IMO there's no need to wait

[gilded goblet]

yea but i'd have to make a line of like 100 industrial storages for waste

[dense violet]

and ficsonium is for people who, for some reason, can't stop themselves from burning plu rods

[dense violet]

don't burn the plutonium then

[white dawn]

shiny fuel rod!

[hard ivy]

sinking plutonium is easier and cheaper than making ficsonium if you just want waste-free nuclear

[dense violet]

ficsonium rods should be 3x as painful

[reef basin]

which is fine?

[gilded goblet]

so to deal with uranium waste by making plu rods and sinking them? or am I misunderstanding

[true mulch]

blueprint it

[true mulch]

yes

[hard ivy]

that's one way to do it, yes

[reef basin]

that's one option indeed

[gilded goblet]

i seeeee

thats not as bad as I expected

i just want to get a power alternative up because I already know that T9 with TC and fic it's going to MOLEST my power situation with the PA

[reef basin]

honestly even base uranium should be fine for that

[gilded goblet]

i highkey dont remember how to spoiler in message so I'm just sending very non descriptive abbreviations bc i know some people dont want future machine spoilers

but everyone that has them will understand

[hard ivy]

you can also do rocket fuel. easier, though more repetitive

[gilded goblet]

yea I want nukes tho cuz they look sick

so what recipe tree do I use to "sink" the uran waste by plu fuel rods

[hard ivy]

all defaults for the waste->rod chain

[gilded goblet]

bc I believe thats what I seen about "sinking the waste" turning it into plu rods and sinking them

[silk ocean]

You can recycle all of it

Uranium at least

[hard ivy]

you should end up with a quarter as many Pu rods as U rods you burned

[silk ocean]

My nuclear plant doesn't waste or sink anything, all gets recycled

[gilded goblet]

yea

so it's just non fillile ura plu pellet encased plu cell plu fuel rod into sink

sweet, i'm learning lmao

this is going to be a large project, cuz I want to do 100 nuclear plants

[hard ivy]

at 100 or 250%?

[gilded goblet]

100%

what would 250% even give like 525GW

[silk ocean]

Inefficient either way xD

[hard ivy]

252@100% gives 630GW

[gilded goblet]

wait do the rods not get burned faster at 250%?

or is scim just stupid

[silk ocean]

They must do surely

[hard ivy]

so 100@250% would rougly be 630 as well
625 prolly

[hard ivy]

almost definitely

[gilded goblet]

alright

[hard ivy]

both their planners are dogshit

[gilded goblet]

cuz it showed 40 reactors at 250% only using 20 ura fuel rods

or is that how many ONE uses per minute

[silk ocean]

250% for 630 is terrible efficiency, it's basically the reverse of sticking power shards into machines

[gilded goblet]

wait how do you spoler in message again

[hard ivy]

sounds about right

[hard ivy]

? you don't lose efficiency by OCing power plants?

[silk ocean]

I bet it's consuming a ludicrous amount of fuel

[gilded goblet]

I was considering just triple OCing a bunch of plants tho

[silk ocean]

I might be wrong, I seem to recall it wasn't efficient overclocking fuel generators?

[gilded goblet]

cut down on water use maybe

[hard ivy]

brother that information is like 4 years out of date

[white dawn]

You can always overclock power generators without worry (so long as you have the shards to spare)

[hard ivy]

water use will be the same regardless

[silk ocean]

I am wrong again, it's a trend with me XD

[gilded goblet]

i see

so 100% and 250% use the same amount of water?

[hard ivy]

per rod burned, yes

[silk ocean]

Like proportionally

[gilded goblet]

i see

[quiet gust]

but 250 uses 600 water

per min

[white dawn]

(In the distant past, as KYO297 indicated, overclocking power generation machines was very weird and Not Worth It. I forget which update it was, but at some point it was updated so that everything about power-generator overclocking is entirely linear, so the only restriction is your shard count)

[gilded goblet]

so mk2 pipes

[hard ivy]

a power plant at 250% will burn rods 2.5 times faster, use water 2.5 times faster and produce 2.5 times more power

[quiet gust]

u6 ??? lemme check

!wikisearch overclocking

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=overclocking

[gilded goblet]

right right, i misunderstood

[topaz shale]

Alrighty, after just over 20 hours or so, I'm right back where I was the last time I got burnt out on Satisfactory. Phase 3.

[quiet gust]

u7 actually which is also when they changed overclocking to x^1.6 to x^log base2 (2.5)

[silk ocean]

I honestly thought they were exponentially more inefficient but must be my U6-brain

[hard ivy]

huh, update 7. I thought it was like U4 or smth

[quiet gust]

u4 was tier 8

[true mulch]

we removed the power chart from that page and never put it back huh

[quiet gust]

its probably on fandom (barf)

[green fiber]

Gens also didn't lose efficieny
The overclocking number you entered just didn't speed the generator up the same amount

[true mulch]

if it is then it's the wrong one anyway, it was removed because it got changed and noone got to updating it

[quiet gust]

yeah but tbe amount was stupid

[green fiber]

The amount of water per fuel and the power per fuel were always propertional

But yeah, the precise speed increase was ugly

[quiet gust]

yeah it was just you needed an odd number to get the equivalent of 2x

like 229% ish i think

[green fiber]

something like that

[hard ivy]

what exponent was it?

[quiet gust]

i think 1.6

[true mulch]

1.6 or 0.6

250% clock was 202.35% rate

[quiet gust]

unless it was different for fuel gens pre u7

[true mulch]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Clock_speed?oldid=3283

[hard ivy]

that was for production. in power gens, it would've been OP

[true mulch]

almost, 246.2288% for 200% rate

[deft drum]

looks at me getting in a year before 1.0

[hard ivy]

1/1.3? why? why not 1/1.6? or 0.6? wth

[green fiber]

246.23% was in my notes fir back then

and i always rounded the last few decimals

[true mulch]

well there was a time when clock speeds didn't even have decimals
pre U4

[green fiber]

They just picked a number
Thats why they adjusted it then together with the other changes

[storm talon]

@flat zinc do you just build one or two assemblers per floor?

[flat zinc]

i built it to fit

[storm talon]

How do you get that super compact factory setup? Is it feasible early game like I am?

[flat zinc]

i am using blueprint designer mk.2 and making use of recipe alternates

so idrk

[storm talon]

Interesting. Thanks for the info

[flat zinc]

ywyw

[storm talon]

Mind if I fr? I'm also trans

[flat zinc]

depends on if we get along

we can dm for now

[storm talon]

No problem. I just wanna ask for satisfactory tips

Did you play factorio too?

[flat zinc]

i have it wishlisted

[quiet gust]

if i had a nickle for every trans woman i knew who plays this game

[storm talon]

It fills the urge to build

I get some of the same feelings I got from My Time At Sandrock too lol

[green fiber]

The [gender] urge to automate and destroy the environment.

[storm talon]

Tbf there are a lot of spiders

[topaz shale]

Time to get oil set up here soon. Very exciting.

[green fiber]

Spiders are there for triggering the primal urge to run away or to bash their heads in

[storm talon]

Though I do like the big tick giraffe cause ||you can bounce on him||

[quiet gust]

are you load balancing fluids too

[storm talon]

When I found that out I was so overjoyed

I stg the environment in this game is such a huge part of it that makes it fun

[topaz shale]

I don't even know how to do that lol. I'm only load balancing my coal power anyways.

[quiet gust]

i mean in theory its the same logic as belts, just with more pumps of valves to control flow

[green fiber]

You balance fluids by doing even splits.

They do that to a certain extent - but if you overdo it it will kinda oscillate

[storm talon]

I hope in future updates they add more interactible creatures

[daring reef]

why do i produce so little motors

also I NEED TO BUILD 60 fucking power gens

[storm talon]

I love the specbio aspect of this game so goddamn much

[daring reef]

i produce 1200 fuel and each uses 20

omg thats alot of power

[green fiber]

Careful with those
Pumps and valves mess with the fill level of pipes and that is important for balancing of flows

Too much of a fill level difference causes oscillations

[topaz shale]

All the fun stuff will have to wait until tonight. Work and school and other chores.

[daring reef]

IM GOING TO PRODUCE AN ADDITIONAL 15 GW of power

that is insane

[flat zinc]

yes

[flat zinc]

and i love killing them

[quiet gust]

chat quickwire cabnle or cheap silica

[storm talon]

I try to avoid them lol

Once I get OP I'll kill them

[green fiber]

Pick what benefits you
If none do, dont pick anything for now and wait

[topaz shale]

^

[quiet gust]

im oding a final speedruun of all drives i should have specified idgaf

[green fiber]

Then just toss a coin

[flat zinc]

do you still have the first weapon?

[green fiber]

I say Cheap Silica for the heck of it

[quiet gust]

you think i have tha kind of money

[storm talon]

Nah I got the critter smacker and the bolt gun thingy

[shy mulch]

Toss a fluffy hog

[flat zinc]

start researching caterium in the MAM- it will help, trust

[quiet gust]

im in taha swamp the stingers killed em all

[storm talon]

@shy mulch I saw your build for storage that's insane

[green fiber]

Sorry, then toss a Cyberwagon with a jumppad and if it lands on its roof you pick Quickwire Cable

[storm talon]

Okie dokie

[quiet gust]

you already chose cheap silica

[shy mulch]

that's not even storage, it's just a buffer for the input lines for my megafactory 😮

[hard ivy]

...why buffer?

[storm talon]

I can't deal with it lol

[shy mulch]

sometimes trains take 10+ minutes round trip to collect 10+ minutes worth of materials, it can't all just sit on belts

some of the inputs are 6+ stacks per minute

[hard ivy]

ah, it's for trains
I put my buffers immediately next to stations tho

[shy mulch]

it's directly above my station

[dusky spear]

does someone have the insane construct that is an 15 way load balancer ?

[shy mulch]

like, 15 variable inputs to 15 outputs? feels like on that scale it's screaming for a manifold

[hard ivy]

1:15 or 15:15? or something else?

[dusky spear]

15 uneven belt -> 15 even belts

[hard ivy]

because "15 way" is not standard terminology

[shy mulch]

does it have to be a load balancer? that sounds like a headache. a manifold would solve that problem

[dusky spear]

actually wait

32 -> 15 i think

[hard ivy]

you can't just manifold 15 arbitrarily full belts

that's much worse lol

[dusky spear]

mh maybe just 8 4xload balancers could also work

[shy mulch]

depends on the quantities of course, but it's possible

[quiet gust]

injection manifold?

[reef basin]

why the hell would you need that? just do 15 manifolds 😛

[hard ivy]

that's 15 manifolds with overflow and underflow

[quiet gust]

well rule of cool i suppose, big belt balancers are cool

[hard ivy]

look, I know how to build basically any balancer, but you have to decide what you want lol

[dusky spear]

i got 16 600 belts and 16 750 belts

and i wanna make 32 720 belts

[quiet gust]

eek

[placid stirrup]

Self balancing manifold go brrrrr

[dusky spear]

holy im stupid i only have 16 belts and there are 8 600 and 8 750

[hard ivy]

that'd be 32:32 theoretically
but realistically, you could just do 16 2:2

[reef basin]

connect each of them to machines that eat that much

[dusky spear]

yea also true

[placid stirrup]

And/or self balance them

[quiet gust]

chat electorde cb or copper rotor

[dusky spear]

i got a machine build that takes one 720 belt and i want to balance that out

[hard ivy]

yeah, just take 1 600, 1 750 and balance them 2:2

[reef basin]

have instead build that needs 750 and build that needs 600 😛 clock speed makes that super easy 😉

[dusky spear]

will do haha

[hard ivy]

but you'll get 675 on each

[dusky spear]

ah poo

[hard ivy]

(600+750)/2=675

[dusky spear]

thats why i wanted to have 15 belts in the end

[hard ivy]

I mean 16:15 is doable

[dusky spear]

great but im sure it will still be a pain to do

[hard ivy]

manifolds self balance, but only do that perfectly up to one belt total.

that's why you put a belt balancer on your manifolds and all of them automatically self-balance

[placid stirrup]

You can split/merge 1 to 2, 2 to 3, etc., then 15 to 14, 14 to 13, etc

[quiet gust]

How do you go about making balancers, like how do you know how to make em

[placid stirrup]

Feels like we're getting at the same thing

[quiet gust]

ive done that impretty sure those dont always work right

[hard ivy]

you can make any arbitrary n:m balancer by splitting into n*mbelts and then merging them

first you do n 1:m splits, then m n:1 merges

just make sure you aren't splitting and then merging the exact same belt again

[placid stirrup]

Why wouldn't it? Overflow gets sent to whatever belt needs it

[hard ivy]

some balancer designs on the internet are wrong

if you use them, then it won't work

[quiet gust]

what does the 1:m mean

[hard ivy]

a 1:m balancer. splits 1 belt into m equal parts

[hard ivy]

actually, yesterday in the shower, I had an idea to use manifolds for those splits and merges. it won't be balanced balanced, so it'll be useless for trains, but could make balancers for factories a lot more compact and easier to build

you don't need perfect balance isnide factories, only full capacity and proper overflow

and I think it might work

[quiet gust]

so start with the amount of n belts then split each individually in to the amount of m belts there are then do the opposite on the end?

[placid stirrup]

The self balancing manifold I described above does that

[quiet gust]

chat caterium wire or dark ion fuel

and electrode cb or copper rotor

[daring reef]

the hypertoop glitch is so amazing

without it the map would be so annoying to travel

[placid stirrup]

If you don't know which to pick just keep it in the mam library

[hard ivy]

that's the universal way to build. some balancers have an easier way of making them

[hard ivy]

dark ion obviously lmao

[quiet gust]

( im at my last hard drive sjust pick)

[placid stirrup]

Flip a coin

[quiet gust]

i accidentally picked vcat wire

which is sad bc my next factory needs dark ion

[quiet gust]

also dark ion sucks imo

[hard ivy]

that's why I chose it 🙃

[quiet gust]

Ah

I thought you meant cat wire was worse

chat fine concrete or rigor motor

[hard ivy]

conc crete

[quiet gust]

do u juss hate me

tho tbf i have never used a motor alt

[daring reef]

so i have 2 options

[hard ivy]

I hate rigor motor
more than the conc crete

[daring reef]

build 30 fuel gens

over clock to 200% or build 60

i choose build 60

ill build 30 for now i dont really need all that much power

[hard ivy]

electric motor is fire with turbo electric motor

[quiet gust]

why

quickwire cable or copper rotor

[placid stirrup]

Yeah I'd build 30 for now and OC in the future when you need the power. Just set yourself up for that future expansion. Less piping is better imo for fuel gens

[hard ivy]

I used fine concrete for an early-game concrete factory a few times. it's pretty fast and efficient if you have quartz nearby (which is basically all starting spots except grasslands)

meanwhile, rigor motor adds a significantly more expensive and complicated item to an otherwise simple and iron-only motor recipe

[quiet gust]

soi what makes electric motor good then

[hard ivy]

uses the same ingredients as turbo electric motor
makes turbo electric motors basically stators, rotors (i.e iron and iron), AI limiters and RCUs

[little lark]

does anyone else have issues with conveyor lifts just not placing in the right orientation?

[quiet gust]

as in iput on the wrong side?

[little lark]

no like, when i click it to place, the opening looks like its going to place "east" but it actually places north

[quiet gust]

rotors dont you mean aluminum and sluminum 🙃

[quiet gust]

uh idk

@hard ivy i used ur goofy 4:4 last time then i built my own 3:4 whihc i think i did right

9 splitters right

[hard ivy]

3:4 should be 9 splitters 4 mergers I think

[quiet gust]

ye i did that

[slow kindle]

Is nitro rocket fuel good?

[daring reef]

#screenshots message

ITS TIME TO LINK my new power plant

[quiet gust]

and what iv'e hear is if its a weird number just split to the nearest number that is only multiples of 2 and 3 and send one back to be remergeges, is that right

[quiet gust]

it worse on sulfur and nitrogen cost but is super super simple

[daring reef]

i just doubled my power

[quiet gust]

and more oil efficient iirc

[daring reef]

MOre than doubled and im not even using all my fuel

[placid stirrup]

Let's see the factory

[reef basin]

that depends what do you mean by "good" 🙂

[hard ivy]

with some caveats, but pretty much yes

[daring reef]

i closed the game oops anyway i still can make another 7.5GW i have 1200 fuel i only used 600 ill do that now

[slow kindle]

Better than default

[reef basin]

better how? 🤔

[quiet gust]

its honestly equal and just preference

[reef basin]

it uses different resources, whether you like it or not makes it good/not good for you

[quiet gust]

if you value simple logistics or saving oil go for nitro

if you value sulfur or nitrogen, go for reg

[hard ivy]

I'd say on average Nitro is better, but it really depends how you weigh all the properties

[quiet gust]

place it its like 2 cable 4 plates

no its 2 of both

[slow kindle]

Better in terms of value
I have extra nitro for sure
Don’t need the fuel much , have 8k production and 6.5k max cons so I’m planning for the future

[reef basin]

I'm sorry for non-answers, but "value" is also very much subjective and it depends on what you prefer

[quiet gust]

if ur small scale then id say go for nitro as its simpler but really it doesnt matter

[reef basin]

as we said above, it all depends on what your personal preferences are

(as with any other recipe choice)

buildings are not crafted. You use a build gun to build directly from materials

[quiet gust]

not aluminum rod aluminum beam or steel screw. Those are needed to make aluminum rotors which everyone should be doing : )

[slow kindle]

I’ll prob go with nitro cuz I don’t wanna struggle with too many machines, now I just have to unlock it

[reef basin]

then you haven't unlocked it yet

[quiet gust]

then u gotta unlock it

or got o the logistics tab

[quiet gust]

on the note of recipes im making u pick my next hard drive ( the choice is arbitrary im getting through the final crash sites) fused quartz or rubber conc

[reef basin]

flip a coin, literally

[quiet gust]

ur the coin pick which one you like more

[reef basin]

https://flipsimu.com/

[quiet gust]

i got tails so that doesnt help

whcih is tails

who knows

[reef basin]

well you have to choose which side is which before picking lol

[quiet gust]

you choose

[reef basin]

no

[quiet gust]

you must it is your destiny

join the dark side

[placid stirrup]

I pick the coin lands on its edge

[reef basin]

that's reroll

[scenic mirage]

yall wtf did you know you can throw a nobelisk harder by holding longer?? ive just been clicking to throw them all this time 😭

[slender quest]

Yep, Nobelisks can be thrown like grenades, and blown up remotely like mines.

[topaz shale]

I'm so hyped to have my jetpack again. Getting oil set up is going to take a little while. Will need to beef up modular frame production and also set up motor production. Got a lot on my plate now that I'm in phase 3

[slow kindle]

Is diluted packaged fuel/instant scrap worth picking or should i keep those so I can't get those again?(have over 12k of packaged fuel, don't need aluminum)
-# Can also rescan

[daring reef]

@tame vortex congrats but 181 hours for phase 3 is kinda crazy I did phase 3 in only 45 hours

[slow kindle]

everyone have their own pace, it's okay.

[slender quest]

I'm good without both of those, I can wait for Diluted Fuel with Blender.

[hard ivy]

if you have diluted fuel, diluted packaged fuel is worthless
instant scrap is pretty meh too

[scenic mirage]

i just finished my oil power today, 10 gw from that

[daring reef]

my factory is mess I prob should have took more time but it's fine

[slow kindle]

Should I rescan or keep it so i don't roll those

[hard ivy]

I never rescan drives

[reef basin]

anything is worth picking if you like the recipe

[hard ivy]

(except save scumming lol)

[slow kindle]

hmmmm but I like the risk...

time to rescan 🙏

[cedar portal]

So I left the house yesterday afternoon and forgot to shut down Satisfactory, and only reealised it when i woke back up this morning. It was running for almost 20 hours. Lots of tickets, I thought. To find out that my 1200 hour save decided yesterday was the time for the trains to discover a deadlock condition at an interseection and they were ALL clustered and jammed up. Nuclear recyclign backed up, factories starved of materies, power down. Fun!

[daring reef]

that's amazing congrats I did oil power too today I have 7.5gw but I can expand pretty easily to 15 but that's too much work

[slow kindle]

@hard ivy Holy I just got OC supercomputer 😭

[topaz shale]

Yeah that will be my next project after I set up some stuff to make building faster. Got a lot of depots needing to be built.

[hard ivy]

pretty sure that's dogshit

[slow kindle]

WHAT That seems so good

[hard ivy]

expensive AF iirc

[slow kindle]

Ah, I see

[hard ivy]

it's the assembler one?

[slow kindle]

Yeah

[daring reef]

atleast u have the fun of cleaning everything up 🤣

[slow kindle]

It's more expensive cuz of the crystal in the RCU but except for that it's kinda cheap.. just ALOT of aluminum

[hard ivy]

check with a calc but iirc I couldn't really find a reason to use it
other than slooping it - it's the fastest of all the SC recipes and an assembler only takes 2 sloops instead of a manufacturer's 4

[reef basin]

if you like it, pick it

[cedar portal]

I know! At this point having new things to do is kinda fun. Took me 6 hours but everything is running again. The worst part? I thought I was smart by putting in severla big containers for overflow nuclear waste production in casee of emergency, but that just meant now I have all those containers of waste I have to slowly reprocess

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
tomorrow ill be rebuilding my factories, theyre ass rn 😭

[slow kindle]

Maybe I will in the future
i DID spend 3h on a supercomputer factory yesterday so I ain't switching that fast 🤣

[daring reef]

when will we get pic perms and the slomo removed

like almost all servers offer that

[topaz shale]

I just had a thought. Could literally sloop my preexisting modular frame build.

[slow kindle]

the slomo is not teribble at all, its literally 5s

[daring reef]

it is when u like to type things I'm multiple messages

also the no pic perms thing is annoying as fuck

[slow kindle]

Shift + Enter

[scenic mirage]

so dont do that?? 😂

[slow kindle]

then you can write
like this

[daring reef]

I'll do u one better enter
then type again

[slow kindle]

Boom

[daring reef]

saves 1 key press

[reef basin]

we have all the other channels that have image perms, we don't need them in #satisfactory

[hard ivy]

yeah, OC SC is like triple the bauxite of super-state, uses quite a bit of quartz and nitrogen. in exchange, doesn't use sulfur
the other resources are similar and so is building count

[slow kindle]

Yeah it's alot of aluminum which is prob why I'll stay with normal

[daring reef]

what we kinda do

[slow kindle]

Yeah but you writing in 2 lines prevents spam and trolls 👍
Super cool

[daring reef]

like sending an image in a different channel than the one u type in is annoying as fuck

[rigid mist]

why is the elevator so short i entirely intend my factory to be 1 km tall

[daring reef]

it's not spam if it takes exactly the same amount of space

[topaz shale]

You should see my current set up that makes 1 machine of each of plates, rods, frames, rotors, sheets, wire, reinforced iron plates, and something else

[daring reef]

make multiple

[slow kindle]

I'm pretty sure the bot auto detects when you do a specific ammount of line

[rigid mist]

that's what i'm doing

[scenic mirage]

wdym

[daring reef]

also hot take hmf is so easy because all u need is iron and copper

and all materials are in 1 place

[slow kindle]

least obvious ragebait

[scenic mirage]

hmf?

[slow kindle]

heavy modular frame

[daring reef]

u just build alot of machines put in a deposit and that's it

[hard ivy]

you don't even need copper
but you do need limestone

[daring reef]

I'm actually not joking some stuff require transport across the whole map

[daring reef]

I don't like screws

[hard ivy]

you still don't need copper. or screws

[daring reef]

and limestone most likely next to iron and copper

[daring reef]

I used copper to replace screws

u can figure out different recipes but I did that

[hard ivy]

you don't need to

you can replace them with iron

[scenic mirage]

do i need to build a heavy modular frame factory for phase 3

[daring reef]

b4 u finish a phase automate everything in it

[slow kindle]

One thing being bad doesn't mean another thing is good

[topaz shale]

I have a machine making each of those things I listed in one building.

[daring reef]

u can get away with not automating space elevator parts and just putting all materials in a chest with an overclocked assembler and sombersloop

[daring reef]

it isn't too bad at all I actually kind of enjoyed hmf they just needed alot of real estate

[topaz shale]

Doing this. Literally changed the way I play. I tried to automate the parts my last playthrough. Took too long to get to phase 3.

[hard ivy]

HMFs are pretty easy if you just choose the right alts
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=4h5ht4U7m99WvwrtLnYU

[scenic mirage]

oooh i just got turbo heavy fuel and heavy flexible frame

[daring reef]

especially since they are useless in everything except the space elevator

[hard ivy]

awful and awful lmao

[scenic mirage]

🤷‍♂️ i guess

[topaz shale]

Exactly. Hopefully this time I'll actually finish a run

[upbeat charm]

Is there a reason why my 120 coal input doesn't reach my last 2 coal plant?

[daring reef]

I hope I can do the same for phase 4 most likely I can but let's see

[scenic mirage]

is it the coal or the water

[hard ivy]

belt too slow or you didn't give it enough time to saturate
or not enough coal

[topaz shale]

If you can use those alts, then they aren't exactly awful. Just whatever you can find useful.

[daring reef]

then after I automate every single item except space elevator items

I rest

[topaz shale]

Yeah phase 3 should actually be fairly easy.

[scenic mirage]

rest? 😂 should be optimization time after that

[upbeat charm]

Might need to check coal

[scenic mirage]

ada would be very upset

[upbeat charm]

I mean belt

[daring reef]

a real player would know u get 15 minutes a rest per in-game day(2 hours)

[daring reef]

I'll kill her

[upbeat charm]

ADA finds your factory to be Unsatisfactory

[scenic mirage]

same tho

[daring reef]

only useless alts are one that u get right after u automate that item and more screws alts

[reef basin]

?

[daring reef]

u better take that back my factory is satisfactory

[scenic mirage]

mk 2 blueprint just made 😎

whats the difference? its just 8m bigger?'

[daring reef]

autocorrect and I forgot what original message was meant to be

[daring reef]

bigger

also 8 meters is alot and every man here can agree

[topaz shale]

Exactly lol

[scenic mirage]

shi i think even 8cm is a LOT 😅

[topaz shale]

Though another thing I'll need to start messing with is making blueprints for each building that includes the logistics floor.

[dusky pelican]

Is it reasonable to "manually" craft project parts (i.e. transfer the components directly from your inventory to a manufacturer) to more quickly unlock new tiers

[topaz shale]

Completely reasonable

[dusky pelican]

I ask because I need to make 100 of that last Phase 3 part, and I can make a factory but I really want the hover pack

[topaz shale]

Since the space elevator parts aren't going to be used anywhere else, making a whole factory for them kinda doesn't make sense

Automating everything else though is completely ok.

[fluid bluff]

It makes sense as a final project imo

[hard ivy]

there's very little reason to automate them fully.
handfeeding a single, slooped and overclocked machine is much more reasonable

[dusky pelican]

Well I have a factory for versatile framework since that seems to be at least a component in every phase

But okay, I see your point

[willow glen]

it’s reasonable for phase 1-3 but after that it’s too much hand feeding

[hard ivy]

nah, I did it for p4 and 5 too. only needed to automate copper powder

[topaz shale]

I'll probably do it for every phase. Since I'm having to automate the intermediates anyways, might as well handfeed

[willow glen]

I assume you had the previous parts fully automated by that point? I got real sick of hand feeding plastic for adaptive control units lol

[hard ivy]

i did not automate a single project part

use sloops in each step and it's cheap AF

[willow glen]

that feels like it’s more work once you get to that point, so many full inventory transfers and waiting lol

but I’ll never automate smart plating before phase 2 again

[scenic mirage]

can i breed my dogs? like just drop berries for them?

[topaz shale]

I'll only start the handfeeding process once I'm done with most of the current phase tech. By then, I'll either have enough stockpiled or have enough being made fast enough to make handfeeding not a pain.

[hard ivy]

this is everything you need to complete all phases, assuming you start using sloops from phase 2
https://factoriolab.github.io/sfy/list?z=eJw9zM0KgkAUBeC3mcWBYhxRaTEL7x3SfgwhaNGuSGgWZUiItphnj8HR3XfvOZxWU4ZIStEGeHE16xgyrqCSqVViQh6iQ7iJA7jwXf-p5-V6WVaLJFSSeqyhpBS2GTThjAuu7oYn3vghRoKNW4F2jvagHjSClKMYnIMZvAWX4Bo8glPHmbD3RpfCfqwuRNcM-gRDMA9nvuLVdJqcEb2Ooj-Byj6W&v=11

well, you'd have to round up at each step, so a bit more

the wort part is the 15k rubber

[topaz shale]

Yeah looking at it like that, it really isn't that bad. Is this assuming the best alts?

[hard ivy]

I excluded all items that I'd have automated and depoted by the point I complete the phase

so there aren't many alts to choose from

automated wiring got the speed alt, because it needs less wire than default needs cable, and wire stacks to 500 - easier to handcarry

same with flexible framework

[willow glen]

eh, I personally think it’s better to sink extra project parts instead of hand feeding exactly enough for each tier, but it really depends on if your goal is to get the game done asap or not.

[hard ivy]

I have enough points from sinking regular parts. I don't see a point in spending hours building a factory that'll be actually useful for about as long and then be dedicated to points

[willow glen]

All the project parts require previous ones, it’s not like any of the work is wasted unless you’re intentionally rebuilding each phase

[shy mulch]

No such thing as 'enough' points 😝

[hard ivy]

yeah, but like the smart plating factory i'd build in tier 2 or 4 ain't gonna be enough in tier 9

[willow glen]

Build it in an expandable way then. Manifolds help a lot there, but if you leave enough extra space you can still evenly balance as your subtitle suggests

[hard ivy]

it's been literal years since I expanded a factory and I don't intend to start doing that again

[silk ocean]

Smart Plating is the bain of my UI Life - Objective: 50 Smart Plating.. keeps appearing top right XD

[hard ivy]

I won't complete phase 5 in my 1.1 save until they fix that lol

unless removing the elevator fixes it already?

[silk ocean]

I haz no elevators xD

[spice patio]

Just hide that UI element via Options?

[silk ocean]

Let me just land KYO's fav backpack accessory and check out this wonderful suggestion XD

[shy mulch]

It only happens when you learn a new alt recipe and goes away when you reload the game

[silk ocean]

Works thanks, until next playthru where epic confusion shall ensue xD

[dusky spear]

the fluid pumps work through floor holes right ?

[pallid vortex]

Why cant I delete bps? They just keep re-appearing

[wicked nacelle]

yep. there used to be a bug with that but I think they fixed it. old bug was you ahd to rrebuild the pipes

[hard ivy]

you can delete the file, I guess?

[dusky spear]

ok thx ^^

was worried it still didnt work

[quiet gust]

guess what the final alt im unlocking is hint its one of ur top alts

[placid stirrup]

Biocoal

[quiet gust]

no its actually a good alt

[hard ivy]

that doesn't really narrow it down, I like half the alts, don't like the other

electrode scrap?

[quiet gust]

no

its t6

[hard ivy]

encased pipe?

that's not t6 lol

[placid stirrup]

Rigour motors, HOR, or diluted?

[hard ivy]

encased frame would be

[quiet gust]

ding ding ding

[wicked nacelle]

HOR, or diluted? either or - you want both

[quiet gust]

no their guess ing what my last alt is

[wicked nacelle]

o

[hard ivy]

encased frame as the last alt? ouch

[quiet gust]

yerp

i intentionally did this

[subtle swan]

is there a way to finely rotate items instead of ticks of 30 degree turns

[quiet gust]

hold control

on either a road barrier or foundation

then snap other things to it

as you rotate i mean hold ctrl

[wicked nacelle]

priority power switches turn things back on when there's enough power again unless the whole thing turns off? then you have to manually turn it back on?

[subtle swan]

ill dm you

[quiet gust]

dont

just put a sc in #screenshots

[subtle swan]

done

[quiet gust]

rebuild the pipe

make sure the floor holes arent on a weirdly rotated foundation

[subtle swan]

its on a blueprint thing

[daring reef]

now u get it

[wicked nacelle]

no, it doesn't appear priority power switches turn themselves back on when there's power available -- not by testing and not by wiki

[fast roost]

is the best steel recipe solid steel ingots?

[wicked nacelle]

Lame. So I can automagically increase power generation when power goes off, but I have to manually turn things back on to use that power generation

[magic peak]

Any News on when its gonna Release on console?

[wicked nacelle]

no

[rigid mist]

toolbar randomly stopped functioning

[wicked nacelle]

hit alt?

[placid stirrup]

Soon™

[rigid mist]

doesn't change anything

[wicked nacelle]

probably restart then

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
why does it say one rescan remaining and then unable to rescan

[reef basin]

if there's no info in #announcements , there's no info

[wicked nacelle]

because it's showing your last two recipes?

[reef basin]

why would you want to rescan autominer

[scenic mirage]

i mean it says one rescan remaining so 🤷‍♂️

[wicked nacelle]

yes, but are there any other recipes for it to show?

[scenic mirage]

i dont know, it says theres another rescan so it makes me think there is

[wicked nacelle]

it won't show your current ones again, so if there aren't any others it probably won't rescna.

no, that means that your hard drive hasn't been rescanned

and there could potentially be more recipes available later in the game (it's not that smart) so you maybe could rescan it later but you cannot rescan it now

[rigid mist]

reloading save fixed toolbar

[wicked nacelle]

just a bug then

the game adds recipes as you progress, so you could have a hard drive that shows the last two recipes available to you right now but if you progressed further more recipes could be available that would make a rescan do something in the future. I'm guessing that the game doesn't differentiate between you having unlocked all recipes for scanning vs not and has the same interface either way

it would be lame for it to let you rescan and waste the rescan to see the same two recipes again when the rescan could potentially have value later.

[scenic mirage]

i see ig i was just a bit confused lol

[next forum]

Sooooooo when will sat com to Xbox and play station

[hard ivy]

2025

[wicked nacelle]

maybe

[hard ivy]

They still haven't said that it's not, and they have said (admittedly a few months ago) that it is

[wicked nacelle]

sure, but it's not like they have to tell us the instant things change. That's how announcements work.

"last they said was 2025" sure.

[hard ivy]

Maybe they'll do a funny and release it at the meme 1.1 release date

[wicked nacelle]

that would be clever.

[hard ivy]

That'd be 6th of October, for anyone who doesn't know the joke

[reef basin]

asked like 10 messages above, still same answer - look in #announcements

[hard ivy]

But again, the only info from the devs is "2025"

[pallid vortex]

Why do packagers have fluid input at the top and not the other way round ...

[reef basin]

because you put fluid into canisters from top side?

[sterile blade]

Might be because the solid input is the only one always in use

Thus has the most approachable position (ground level)

[pallid vortex]

and what recipe is that then?

[sterile blade]

Any

[pallid vortex]

all the unpackaing xD

[hard ivy]

And all the packaging

@south sky #screenshots message
because path signals are red by default and they need enough space without block signals before them to function properly
if your train is slowing down when approaching a path signal that turns green immediately after passing a block, that block is too close

[azure linden]

@hard ivy #screenshots message

[gilded goblet]

whats considered early mid late game

[hard ivy]

let's hope you got all the good alts. otherwise it will be a nightmare

[azure linden]

i came prepared lmao #screenshots message

i got ~40 drives total from that trip

[hard ivy]

polish flashbang

[azure linden]

xD

polska gurom

[hard ivy]

never played this game (or basically any other game) in anything other than english

those translations hurt

[azure linden]

ehh, the polish one is good, very close to the english version (of course with it's quirks and memes but still)

[vast raptor]

can conveyor lifts auto connect with blueprints

[azure linden]

nothing overthinked

[vast raptor]

or do i have to do it manually

[void thorn]

AUgh I want to buy this game but I don't know if it runs well on Steam Deck

[vast raptor]

the game is really optimised tbh but idk if it will work/or run well in late game

[void thorn]

Yea, late game is the only fear I have

[cedar portal]

Do you want to build a hige planet-sprawling factory or just unlock all the tiwers and finish the main 'quest'? I think you could get to endgame ok but making anything massive will run into big bottlenecks with that CPU

[hard ivy]

you ain't gonna megabase or max out resources, but the game should be perfectly completable

[void thorn]

Ah alright

[void thorn]

Ty

[warped peak]

Does anyone know if there is a plugin for StreamDeck to add shortcuts?

[south sky]

yeah i get that but the problem i found was that it isnt a 3 way intersection so the path signal wasnt even necessary at the bottom there

i removed it and all is well but thank you

[shrewd mica]

Is this a bug?
I made a blueprint, saved the blueprint, cleared the blueprint, grabbed the items out of the blueprint builder box. went to place the blueprint and I didn't have the parts. I went back to the blueprint builder and low and behold... my blueprint was setting there reconstructed... "am I crazy?" saved, cleared, grabbed items, confirmed items in my bag, did it again.
On the 3rd attempt I realized items where flying away from me, through the air, all the way to my blueprint builder on the other side of my base and my blueprint was setting on the builder again. This happened, the moment I selected the blueprint I want to build.

[slow kindle]

Can someone send the map with all the drivers

[hard ivy]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[ashen trail]

do resource wells run out? I see a 3% extracting on one of my extractors...

[steady glade]

lmao skill issue

[dusky spear]

how do you link pictures / msg's like that ? @hard ivy

[steady glade]

r-click, copy message link

[hard ivy]

... -> copy message link

[dusky spear]

ah nice ^^

also https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/932761153703149659/1404535398084120720 this is the stuff i needed to loadbalance 16:15

[silk rose]

bro went to the dark side

[pallid tide]

I've noticed that once you tame a lizard doggo and save and log off that new ones will spawn in the same area it was. Is there a place on the map that's particularly good for optimizing this?

[reef basin]

that's just how much time it is running vs how much time it could run if you consumed the output fully

[lime ermine]

Really low resolution but it runs ok, like 40-50 fps in late game

[wicked nacelle]

depends how late of late game you get. It definitely drops below that from lack of CPU if you build big enough

[ashen trail]

thanks

[versed plinth]

ok so ive entered phase 5

and im not exactly sure where to start

[hard ivy]

solid biofuel

[versed plinth]

ig ficsite trigons but idk how many to make

[hard ivy]

Tier 2 - Obstacle Clearing

then craft it and burn in biomass burners

[hushed sage]

350 hours in this game and only today while messing around on a friend server did I discover you can hold left click to chuck nobelisks further

I've been doing goofy ass tiny slide hops to make them inherit my velocity for years

[hard ivy]

it's better than biomass

makes your leaves and wood last longer if you craft them all the way to solid biofuel

[reef basin]

has more energy

[placid stirrup]

Get your Mk6 belts going, however many pm you think you need

[sage viper]

I have no idea how to even start with Radio Control Units. I’m completely out of ideas and exhausted.
Could anyone share their setup, preferably from Satisfactory Modeller? Thanks in advance!

[hard ivy]

this is what I did
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=9RpSKpvh4owvtF9AjIzP

[shy mulch]

there's 3 ingredients, treat them as 3 separate things, build 3 factories to produce them separately, then bring everything together will be the easy peasy bit

[placid stirrup]

I broke the factories up into oscillators that get droned to the RCU factory. My setup was a bit more complex so I hesitate to share, but HOR and diluted fuel are certainly useful.

[sage viper]

hor?

[placid stirrup]

Heavy oil residue

The alternate recipes

[sage viper]

i have them all

[versed plinth]

ok ill try that then. theres a nice place in the redwoods with good aluminum and sam

[placid stirrup]

I don't think you need aluminum for Mk6 belts

[hard ivy]

you need ficsite

which can (but doesn't have to) be made from aluminium

[placid stirrup]

Been a minute since I've played, does the default use aluminum?

[hard ivy]

you can make ficsite from iron, caterium or aluminium ingots

[placid stirrup]

That's riiiiight, similar to diamonds there are tiers of effective input: output

[wicked nacelle]

They are different levels of Sam efficient as well as the other item.

[ember mist]

I would consider iron the “default” choice for most people.

[versed plinth]

theres a pretty convenient area for making it with aluminum so like

i could do iron for the basic processing actually

then i dont have to deal with aluminum's shenaniganry

[placid stirrup]

That's probably what most people do for the first Mk6 belts factory

[daring reef]

my entire oil power plant failed because i forgot to give the polymer resin sink power

oops

easy fix is just give it power and wait

litterly thats it nothing else i can do

[placid stirrup]

Hope you had some backup power and priority switches!

[atomic notch]

Ive had plenty of factories grind to halt bc of some shit like that

[wicked nacelle]

Priority switches are virtually worthless. Offline batteries are really the only useful power backup.

[daring reef]

i just built this power plant so it produces so much power that i didnt even use yet

my coal power plant just carries over untill my oil one comes back online

[versed plinth]

it seems it is time to get rid of my green hills factory

if it can even be called a factory... its more an assortment of tiny production facilities

[atomic notch]

#1201555265942724758

Im down to play later tho

[placid stirrup]

Then I believe you have your answer. Not trying to be rude, genuinely, but most folks aren't very keen to play co-op games with strangers. Especially one with such specific preferences as this one.

[atomic notch]

Yeah multiplayer is aids

Play on a world just to get ghosted by the dude

[ember mist]

The only way I can see that making sense is if you are using them wrong.

[atomic notch]

Doin p1 over and over

[hard ivy]

the only thing I found prio switches to be useful is remote switching for my nuke plant's water supply so I don't have to run back and forth to the normal switch

[daring reef]

this is taking a while to fill up

13GW/15GW is working

im only goign to enable the power switch when 15 out of 15 is working

[atomic notch]

You could underclock temporarily

[daring reef]

also ur character in the game is so short u never notice until u stop using the hoverpack lol

[versed plinth]

new question: does this game have a world grid?

[atomic notch]

Yes

[wicked nacelle]

What do you think they are good for? I have my offline batteries on one but never actually use them because power is control in this game anyhow

[daring reef]

draw lines

easy its not that hard

[versed plinth]

?

wut

[daring reef]

u have a big square map

[ember mist]

You literally just connect all your non-power generation related factories to a lower priority, so if anything bad happens just those factories shut off and you can find the power problem, fix it, and just turn everything else back on, instead of potentially running into a catastrophic outage to everything.

[atomic notch]

Press ctrl while building foundation to snap to world grid

[daring reef]

draw lines on it

[daring reef]

that was not his question his question where how the devs made it

that might have been one of the easiest things in the entire game to make

[hard ivy]

Nothing bad ever happens to my factories tho

If it does, it's a skill issue. And I fixed all of those hundreds of hours ago

[daring reef]

the grid not the grid interactions that is a pain

[wicked nacelle]

That stops working when power generation becomes complex interactions. Unless you do a ton of work and careful
Coordination which would be time better spent just making more power

And if you’re just on coal power then getting your power back on is trivial anyhow so it doesn’t help there either

[hard ivy]

Like I literally don't even have a single power storage either

[placid stirrup]

Even if you have 2-3 factories sending parts to power production, you can consider those part of the "power production" priority (trains etc. included)

[ember mist]

I guess if you don’t build all your nuclear stuff in the same spot and haul stuff from all over the place I could see that being an issue.

[proven grove]

Newb question: Do I bother lugging conveyors across the map so I can have a "factory" of sorts or just keep slide jumping around until I get further in to the game? >.>

[ember mist]

However, regardless of that, you will still have plenty of completely non-power related facilities that you can turn off.

[daring reef]

my power is almost back online

[placid stirrup]

Generally I wouldn't build belts anywhere I didn't need them for production

[daring reef]

ill have a whole 15 GW from just 1200 water and 450 oil

water is free and thats so little oil

[proven grove]

Would I get anything that'd help to make a factory at P1? (Or T3, whatever you wanna call it)

[daring reef]

and it balances out really nicely idk why but 450 oil just works

with my recipes everything just works out no overclocking no underclocking

its amazing

[wicked nacelle]

Much easier to just stockpile some fuel rods and use them if something bad happens. Or again just offline power storage. The game doesn’t reward putting time into different grids or tiers

[placid stirrup]

Generally, every single milestone unlocks something that helps you build further factories. The awesome shop has a few things that are nice qol also

[daring reef]

also what does flush do

i thought it was a manual pump

[proven grove]

Ah okay, I'll just make mini factories for each component then. Thank you. 🙂

[hard ivy]

Or just don't fuck up? Like I literally haven't had a breaker trip in years (besides biomass gens running out of fuel)

[placid stirrup]

Pollutes the surrounding area with whatever's in the pipe

[hard ivy]

Empties the pipe/pipe system

[daring reef]

fuck i did flush entire system and lost abt 10M2 in every machine

thought it was a manual pump

[placid stirrup]

This is regarded as the most straightforward and easy to organize method of building!

[proven grove]

Only considering it due to having a large amount of iron nodes around where I started off 😄

[placid stirrup]

Your lizard doggos will begin mutating soon

[daring reef]

all but 1 machine worked

now half dont work

[daring reef]

i dont have any doggos

[proven grove]

I assume Iron wire would be a fairly straight forward replacement for copper needs 🤔

[hard ivy]

That tends to happen when you void all fluids in pipes

[placid stirrup]

You'll see how great it is once you're forced to travel 2km+ for a resource

[daring reef]

iron wire is not a replacement to copper

[hard ivy]

It basically is tho

[ember mist]

Or I could just spend the literal 10 seconds it takes to throw down a switch and configure it lol.

[daring reef]

why would u do that anyway

[white dawn]

It's quite iron-heavy, and a slow recipe to boot. But iron is plentiful; it's a popular recipe, for sure

[daring reef]

u have so much coppper

why waste iron on copper wire

also iron not as conductive

[hard ivy]

Because there's 3x more iron than copper

And if I don't have to collect an extra resource for a factory, it's a better factory

[white dawn]

(On the other hand, why not waste iron? You've got so much of it, after all. :)

[proven grove]

Too many conflicting opinions xD

[ember mist]

Iron pipes are wonderful for that.

[daring reef]

suit urself i dont like the recipe that much

[shy mulch]

FICSIT does not waste

[daring reef]

exactly dont leave the copper in ur world Unexploited

ada would not be proud

maybe if u use all the copper in ur world and u have iron left and need wires use it but ill stick to copper myself

[hard ivy]

Wow, it's almost like most of this game is well balanced and people with different priorities will have different opinions 🙃

I suggest you don't listen to advice from any single person without verifying that you agree with it

[viscid bobcat]

how much is a good power production?

like to complete phase 2

[placid stirrup]

At least 3.50

[hard ivy]

More than your consumption

[viscid bobcat]

gigawatts?

[daring reef]

like 3500MW

giga is 1000x more than mega

[proven grove]

Hard to verify for a first time playthrough and just winging it, It's not as if I NEED iron wire, I'm just lazy to walk out to my copper nodes 😛

[viscid bobcat]

I know

but thats crazy wow

[daring reef]

also u dont need that much honestly i reached phase 4 with only like 7 GW

[viscid bobcat]

my coal power plant that im working on makes on 1.8 gigas

and its the biggest project i made

[daring reef]

but its hatching up to me so rn im making an oil rig to produce an additional 15 GW

[hard ivy]

I like iron wire because most things that use wire use iron anyway. Might as well use iron for both and not involve copper

[viscid bobcat]

this game really hurts huh?

[placid stirrup]

Most preferences in the game are going to be just that - preferences. You have to personally determine which yours are, as Kyo is alluding to.

[daring reef]

id say 2nd biggest project after HMF

this oil rig has maybe 60 fuel gens

like 15 blenders alot of refineries and 10 water extractors

[placid stirrup]

Alloys go brrrr