satisfactory

[silk ocean]

No worries 🙂

[sand pasture]

im just kinda on timer and no one from my timezone had responded to the first one i made

[silk ocean]

Hopefully you find someone there

[sand pasture]

thanks

[silk ocean]

I did my U8 playthru with 2 of us, it is fun as long as both are relatively on the same standard of building xD

[primal flax]

is the best use of remains just to make alien dna capsule and sink it?

[silk ocean]

That's what I do yea, not sure if best use but it's effective at getting tickets.. What else can you do, medical inhalers I guess

[fast urchin]

don't suppose anyone knows how many nuclear power plants i can make if I'm making 20 uranium fuel rods a min

[silk ocean]

I think they burn 5/min ?

No sorry is it 0.2/min xD

[urban ember]

0.2x20

wait

no

[urban ember]

100

[fast urchin]

thank you

[urban ember]

ofc

[silk ocean]

Quite a lot of particle accelerators if you want to process all the waste xD

[urban ember]

but i really really need to get my power infrastructure better

processing nuclear waste, for me, is tedious af

producing uranium rods too

but i think i may need to

which sucks because i really do not want to

[silk ocean]

I've automated all the waste processing, the nuclear plant runs unattended

It's not too bad, about a 2 or 3 stage process

[urban ember]

i wish i had more knowledge to optimise everything...

[silk ocean]

It's just a chain process like any other

Starting with the waste

[finite grove]

will ziplines continue to work even if there is a power pole in the middle of the line, or will i have to stop at each pole and get back on the line?

[sterile blade]

If you build any generator, you can check out Fuel consumption in their UI

[sterile blade]

Having more Hard Drives might help ^^

[sterile blade]

You'll gently slam your face on the power pole and fall to the ground
Now, if only there were some sort of cable connectors that don't have a full pole below them... wink wink, nudge nudge

[silk ocean]

gently and slam seem a bit contradictory to one another xD

[finite grove]

I'd go straight through the outlets instead of it getting shoved down my throat?

[finite grove]

Neat. Thanks

[spiral wyvern]

you can jump from one line to another by letting go

[sterile blade]

Power Towers and ceiling mounts to the rescue!

[spiral wyvern]

it slightly propels you upwards

[finite grove]

Tarzan-ing a zip line sounds fun

[sterile blade]

It is :D
(It might get old fast though)

[spiral wyvern]

it is quite fun

[finite grove]

Are ziplines better speed than blade runners?

Alr

[sterile blade]

Note: ziplining has a "sprint" mode

[spiral wyvern]

what is a good train length for my intercont rail network
like rn im using 6 cargowaons and two trainheads ( do mutiple trainheads even do something?)

[silk ocean]

If you can fill those 6 wagons on each run, even if it's all the way across the world, that is a hella lot of cargo

[spiral wyvern]

well i have a large cargo variety from oil products to aluminum to ores

[silk ocean]

Fair xD

Not sure about the two engines, I would assume it helps, I've been meaning to test it out

[spiral wyvern]

i have a lot of climbs in my track which is not optimal for effiencie and with two heads it just feels faster to go up those slopes

[sterile blade]

1 engine to 4 cars is the usually recommended ratio.
Having more than 4:1 risks having the train slow down, which can lead to it not being able to clear inclines iirc

[silk ocean]

Interesting, thanks

My longest is 1 engine 5 cars but it's a relatively flat run, I should probably add a 2nd engine to that one

If I'm doing some work on its route it will probably find a different way around the network and could get stuck

[sterile blade]

You do get a notification if that happens, BTW (iirc, if any train with autopilot stands still for a few minutes, an alarm goes off on the map)

[silk ocean]

Useful

[sterile blade]

Very much.
Otherwise you'd just notice a staring-contest once the stations run dry and you're scratching your head about lack of input

[silk ocean]

I rebuilt a busy intersection yesterday, converted it to a path intersection, trains seemed okay, they found other routes around the global network

[sterile blade]

Good signaling

[silk ocean]

Ha thanks, I try, doesn't always work out xD

Credit to the pathfinding algorithm as well xD

It needs to be good to deal with my building 😄

[spiral wyvern]

what are your thought about roundabout intersections for trains

[reef basin]

worst intersection ever

[silk ocean]

Seen a few posted on reddit now and again, usually it's some problem xD

[spiral wyvern]

good to know

[reef basin]

there's practically never a reason to build a roundabout

classic X junction is just better and if you need more throughput, you go 3D

[spiral wyvern]

and thoughts on the leached variants of ingots specifically iron and caterium

[sterile blade]

More cool than effective xD

[spiral wyvern]

they do look good

[reef basin]

they look horrible

[reef basin]

if you have sulfuric acid and want more iron/caterium? go for it

[subtle latch]

Hello i have a question can a friend join your single player save?

[reef basin]

there's nothing like "singleplayer save"

there's just "save"

[subtle latch]

Ok

Can they join?

[silk ocean]

Yep

[subtle latch]

Ok thanks for the help

[silk ocean]

I think there are various ways to do it, host a server, or you can invite them to your game through Steam/Epic I believe, that's how I did my last playthru

Might have been Epic, I forget, it was back in the U8 days, either way it is possible by some means xD

[subtle latch]

Thanks for the help

[primal flax]

is 600 plastic/min too much?

[reef basin]

yes, you only need like 10/min

[silk ocean]

My factory just called, it's using 1250/min xD

[reef basin]

well, depending on how fast you build things that need plastic

[reef basin]

then you don't need plastic, but some next step

[primal flax]

damn

[silk ocean]

Yea I am converting Computers atm to Crystal Computers

[reef basin]

basically the point I'm trying to make is "don't produce for unclear future factories, make what you need now"

[formal dome]

anyone wanna play with me on my new server?

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[primal flax]

@reef basin do you use the recycled plastic recipe?

[reef basin]

depends on situation

[magic swift]

I've made up a challenge to myself:
Make everything getting produced with a 1200/min speed

In creative mode ofc

[reef basin]

impossible 😉

[magic swift]

Nothing is impossible

[silk ocean]

1200 nuclear pasta per min, good luck XD

[reef basin]

it literally is in a world with limited nodes

[magic swift]

What's a node?

[reef basin]

the thing you mine from

[magic swift]

Welp i've already made an iron plate factory with 1200/min production speed

From only one node

[reef basin]

good for you

[silk ocean]

If you're referring to initial products like Iron Plates, 1200/min is easy, but not for intermediate/advanced products

[minor rock]

its still not impossible, as if you change the game just a little you have as many miners as you want on a node

[magic swift]

i just started ok?

[silk ocean]

Welcome xD

[magic swift]

Hell yeah, mods

[minor rock]

you dont even need to have them on a node

[reef basin]

f.e. heavy modular frames, which are relatively intermediate item, not even advanced one, are capped at ~3000/min, and that uses the whole world of resources

[steady cedar]

If you want to fo 1200 of literally anything that can be automated
There might be issues then, unless you use mods or glitches i guess

[reef basin]

fused modular frames are capped at 746/min

[steady cedar]

That does give me an idea for a creative mod thing
A small machine that just produces a selected resources endlessly?
Unless there is already an alternative to that

Without mods and glitches i mean

[silk ocean]

We need a 2nd island xD

[reef basin]

we won't get it

[silk ocean]

This one seems big enough tbf

[steady cedar]

This would be nice for people who just wanna do creative factories

[reef basin]

I'm pretty sure there's a node spawner mod

[steady cedar]

Without mods

[magic swift]

That's impossible without modes

[steady cedar]

Its a suggestion to add to creative mode

[magic swift]

I've just looked at calculator website

[formal dome]

anyone from india here?

[reef basin]

well the "machine that makes resource" would also have to be a mod

[reef basin]

that one is pretty crap

[steady cedar]

If you are looking for someone to play with then you can ask in #1201555265942724758

[magic swift]

No? It works well except the count of conveyors

[minor rock]

ive done that as an injectable dll so "modless" xD but it isnt published anywhere

[steady cedar]

I am just saying is they should add a thing for creative mod that produces base resources (like a node)
And its for people to just make factories how they like
In vanilla creative mod
No modes or glitches
Its just a suggestion

[warped peak]

Is there a way to find out how high I am so I can align two platforms that are far apart?

[steady cedar]

Don't think so

[minor rock]

yeah, you can use the console im pretty sure

[steady cedar]

Oh you can? That would have been useful to know

[sturdy jacinth]

holy shit, 31 hour save, just finished phase 2. time for oil

[warped peak]

Do you know what command it is to see it?

[minor rock]

im not sure, if you enable the cheats menu, there is a button you can press to print it though

so you can compare the Z value

[silk ocean]

Using nukes to clear trees feels wrong

[frail sleet]

the classic way is to make a chain of foundations from A to B 😛

[silk ocean]

"ShowDebug None" in the console will toggle player info, ZYX, etc

[wary fox]

Im setting up my Awesome Sink but only want to take overflow from my storage containers. How do is set this?

[frail sleet]

put everything except overflow into the container

[silk ocean]

Smart Splitters

[wary fox]

tyvm

[silk ocean]

Set one of the outputs to Overflow

Usually put them at the very start of your chain, even before storage, if it backs up to that point then overflow

But personal pref xD

[wary fox]

OK thanks for the help

[silk ocean]

np

[stable warren]

hi

[subtle swan]

Hello everyone, today i want to go on an adventure collecting spheres and harddrives. Ive gotten a few already but idk which ones i already got and which one i havent. Is there a tool where i can upload my file that shows me which one i have collected already?

[silk ocean]

You can load your save into SCIM (satisfactory calculator map) and show hard drives, the faint ones are collected already

Should come up if you google it

[stable warren]

hmm i wanna play with someone but im kinda new hmm

[silk ocean]

You might find someone in #1201555265942724758

[stable warren]

i made apoll, ima see if someone is lf still xd

[silk ocean]

Feels fairly quiet right now but fingers crossed

[stable warren]

i just got mk 3 conveyors and they ARE SO FAST

[hollow vector]

wait till you see mk4

[stable warren]

someone wants to play with me!

[silk ocean]

Success xD

[verbal yoke]

#screenshots message
Is there a way to remove this plant?

[silk ocean]

I've had trouble with them too

Tried nobelisks but I didn't try the chainsaw

[shy mulch]

Some plants can be destroyed only by a nobelisk to the base of the plant, can't remember if it's that type or something else though. Worth a try 🤷

[silk ocean]

Well the rocket fuel plant generates 31,500 MW using the alternate compacted coal recipe.. Not sure how good that is but seems reasonable xD

(from 600/min oil)

[slender quest]

It can't be destroyed for now, map update is necessary to fix this. So... Let's wait.

[sour egret]

guys how do i get the last alt recipe ?

i cant scan the hard drive

[shy mulch]

That seems a bit low, which recipes are you using?

[shy mulch]

Reload the game

[silk ocean]

Only the alt for compacted coal - coal+sulphur

I am tapping some for packaging rocket fuel but that wouldn't count for much

[sour egret]

how much rochet fuel / min do you produce ?

[shy mulch]

Oh, you're then turning that into turbofuel then that into rocket fuel?

[silk ocean]

Yea

[sour egret]

it's the base recipe for rocket fuel

isn't there an alternate which is better ?

[silk ocean]

Yea I hadn't unlocked anything else at the time of building

[shy mulch]

Do you have nitro rocket fuel alt? It's way more efficient

[silk ocean]

It does use nitro acid

If that means it's an alt recipe, I thought that was the standard one

[shy mulch]

I'm using nitro rocket fuel alt and make enough for 360GW out of 1500 oil

[stable warren]

main problem is making a server now-

[silk ocean]

Yikes, that's like 5 times mine XD

[shy mulch]

11x 😝

Oh, you're using less oil

[silk ocean]

Well 5x in terms of like-4-like e.g. if yours was 600/min

[shy mulch]

OK 5 more efficient, makes sense

[silk ocean]

Yea I should have made that clearer xD

[shy mulch]

I'm not really awake yet, I'll take the blame for that one

[silk ocean]

I only run my own LAN server, I've never leased one but someone would have to give a better advice on that xD

On that subject, time for more coffee XD

[shy mulch]

I had a big caffeine addiction many years ago, I avoid it now. If I have a coffee it perks me up for 30 mins then I get a massive headache when it wears off. I get my wake-up signal from having sugar on everything now

[silk ocean]

I do drink quite a lot of coffee but I don't seem to get addicted, e.g. I often go for a week without it, either just forget to make it or drinking something else xD

In all honesty it barely seems to do anything in general lol

Perhaps it's secretly decaf

[granite stream]

Heyho, is there a way to remove un destroyable rocks ? I'm kind of tired to "hide" them with base grounds

[silk ocean]

I think the name says it all 😉

[dreamy bane]

how do i make my foundations asphalt?

ive bought it from the store

[ivory condor]

Its a small island for sure, at 47km2 Hawaii for instance is far larger at 6482km2

[silk ocean]

In the Foundations page, there are little drop-down boxes

Where it says "FICSIT Foundation"

[silk ocean]

By RL island standards, yeah it's pretty smol

[ivory condor]

Yep indeed it is

[dreamy bane]

rightt got it, can i change pre existing ones to asphalt or gotta build anew

[silk ocean]

Not sure, give it a try, might be able to replace

I don't think so, just tried

[dreamy bane]

yep sadge

[shy mulch]

Yes you can change existing ones

In the build menu go to customise and select materials

[silk ocean]

Ah ha

[shy mulch]

Maybe I've got the names wrong, whatever it is, it's the second tab. I'm not at the game atm to check the wording

[sweet vigil]

hello im having issue i cant open my intory or i crash or use power shard in machine too

[ivory condor]

#1038092680493801533 would be a good place to make a thread

Along with information like crash logs, etc

[wispy thorn]

Anyone here good with trains willing to help me before i break my monitor?

[silk ocean]

What's the issue?

[wispy thorn]

Ima have to jump into a call with u to show u its a HUGE network but all intersections dont work

[golden bobcat]

where can i suggest improvements to the game?

[wispy thorn]

says path signal looping but it isnt?

[silk ocean]

You can post screenshots in #screenshots

[wispy thorn]

ok 1 sec

[shy mulch]

I've seriously underplanned my new train station 😭 might need to rip it all out and start again

[silk ocean]

Nuke it from space xD

[shy mulch]

😂

[wispy thorn]

@silk ocean check screenshot

[silk ocean]

So you're transitioning from drive left to drive right?

[shy mulch]

My megafactory is currently fed by 2 stations with 4 unloading docks each. I'm upgrading to 5 stations but had to change the orientation to fit where the rail line was, but it's ended up a mess getting all the belts into the factory. Considering moving the whole line just to give me more space to do it in a more sane way

[wispy thorn]

yes

no so the bottom is train station, left is iron station and right is another 3 stations i want the trains to go from left to right or from left to bottom

[silk ocean]

Try moving the signals a bit further away from the intersection

[wispy thorn]

ok

[silk ocean]

I usually do a small like 2 foundation block at all sides and put the signals a bit further away, sometimes helps

[fair viper]

Damn those water pipes are crazy bugged xd

[silk ocean]

In theory that intersection should work, all the tracks look correct

[sterile blade]

Might also just be a case of bugged signals, needing to rebuild the rails

[shy mulch]

Agree, it all looks like it should work. I have had similar issues that have fixed themselves by just deleting and replacing signals and tracks one at a time

[dense turtle]

what are the geysers for

[shy mulch]

Power

[wispy thorn]

bro ive been doing this for 3 days, I watched EVER video on youtube IDK what to do anymoe let me try movve the signals

[dense turtle]

which machine makes power out of them

the alien one?

[shy mulch]

!wikisearch geothermal+generator

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=geothermal+generator

[silk ocean]

As WaslstDaz mentioned it might not be your fault, signals can be buggy, needs a bit of tweaking. Either moving them further away or a rebuild as mentioned

Sometimes I find that putting down the path signals with a very basic skeleton intersection first can help, then build it up

[wispy thorn]

ok we make progress check screenshots

Now they showing blocked but aint no trains on the circuit

[silk ocean]

That's looking better yea

That's normal

[smoky forge]

and 21000 oil on the map?

alr nice

[wispy thorn]

Now do the exit blockers so there 2

should fix it>?

[silk ocean]

The path signals show blocked until they allow a train to enter, that's okay like it is

I think it is working now tbh

[wispy thorn]

Zatie ima give u fat kiss if this works

2 days of my life gone to a spacing issue

[silk ocean]

That's how we roll xD

[wispy thorn]

its all working now

seems to be a skill issue on my side

[silk ocean]

Great success

Nah, it's just signals being tricky xD

[wispy thorn]

they aids to place also

[shy mulch]

I just use block signals everywhere. I should play with path signals a bit and get a feel for them. I think they'll be simple once I understand them properly I've just learned too much in a short time so I'll take it slow for a bit 😵‍💫

[wispy thorn]

@shy mulch ur not missing out on anything save urself the depression and keep to block signals

[shy mulch]

At first yes, but it's pretty easy once you get used to it. When you've done 100 you'll wonder how you ever had a problem

[silk ocean]

They can get confusing yea, totally understand that thinking

They're great in the sense that they save loads of space for intersections, and if you want to add another branch into the mix it's usually very easy too

[shy mulch]

Yeah I think they'll be very useful as I have some big intersections that will likely get blocked up when I start scaling up the traffic

[silk ocean]

Yea I think so for sure. It can be crazy to watch busy intersections when two trains enter at the same time.. thinking eeeeek! but it's all fiiiinneee XD

[wispy thorn]

ZAtie

[silk ocean]

That's me

[wispy thorn]

save me again check screen shots

is this possible?

ignore the train track going in the ground

will fix it

[silk ocean]

Yea should be - you need to contain that entire area within the path block

Including the bi-directional part

So in the distance that's where you put the other side of the path signals

Then trains can only reserve the path if it's free (either direction)

[wispy thorn]

aight bet

[sweet vigil]

Tu

Ty

[silk ocean]

I put a screenshot, path entrance signals somewhere around those locations, or further away, but you get the idea

And then your normal exit-block signals

[random thicket]

What is the quickest to complete the game do people think is possible, I was thinking maybe 2 days?

[ivory condor]

Faster, especially if you cheat alot

[silk ocean]

I don't think I could complete in 2 days even if I pulled a 48-hour session XD

[random thicket]

nah no cheating just base game, fastest I have done was 4 days, but 5 to get 44/44

though 5 was a casual playthrough when game first came out.

[ivory condor]

So no scimming I take it, thats no fun

[random thicket]

those 1000 coupons were annoying to get for the nut, took 4 hours after I built the factory to get them all.

[daring reef]

how much radio control units per minute should i make

yeah i think the server died

[slender quest]

Anywhere from 0.1 per minute. Exact number depends on other goals.

[daring reef]

idk what they are used for

[slow kindle]

Are the coffestainer roles workers in satisfactory company?

[daring reef]

i just know i need to automate everything

[slender quest]

Pressure conversion cubes -> Nuclear Pasta, and some buildings.

[daring reef]

so my main problem is my whole thing is a mess

and i dont know how to transfer materials to craft other than conveyors

[random thicket]

60 a min I plan for in my base builds

[daring reef]

and i dont have the sanity to run them around the whole map

[random thicket]

but I build 200+ GW factories.

[daring reef]

but i do have a really cool storage system

that automatically uploads till it fills my cloud storage then fills 2 industrial storages then starts to just sell the rest

[slender quest]

Mine was 12/min, but i could make even less.

[random thicket]

I mostly use belts for a buffer

[daring reef]

i just need alot of mercer sphheres to make sure i have every item in it

[slender quest]

Well, you could use trains or drones.

[daring reef]

the problem with trains and drones is they just deliver a shit ton then i have to wait for other delivery

idk how to make it so that it transfers enough to keep a couple items per minute satisfied

i do have an idea though

[slender quest]

Um, but the storage is huge enough to satisfy the "2 items/min" condition, and if not, you can build industrial container right after the station.

[daring reef]

i need to use a train to transfer computers

i think computers are going to be used alot so i need to automate alot of them

[primal flax]

arent really long conveyer belts just better than trains?

[daring reef]

i like trains

i need to automate alot of computers

[slender quest]

Not sure what's better for FPS, but that matter aside - usually you can either use multiple belts, 1 per item, or 1 belt for multiple items. First approach gets tall/wide and is tedious to build, second one requires thinking and managing item overflow.

[silk ocean]

Automate everything, who wants to stand at the crafting bench all day XD

[daring reef]

i am making 2.5 computers per minute

[lofty pumice]

Ou

[daring reef]

thats not alot is it

[lofty pumice]

yeah

What is your main power source?

[daring reef]

coal

alot of coal

[slender quest]

2.5/min is fine.

[daring reef]

too much coal

i dont have pic perms

#screenshots message

[daring reef]

i wanna clean this up

its too much speghetti for my likes

or i could expand on it

[random thicket]

thats easy to clean, I can help you manifold if you like

[daring reef]

how so

[eternal geyser]

no one got pic perms. that’s why #screenshots exists

[random thicket]

The refineries are easy they should need to be pulled up as for the other thing that may need to be placed in a better position.

[daring reef]

im thinking of just mass deleting and starting over

[lofty pumice]

Hmm I think the best option is to build fuel power plant

[daring reef]

i use the by products to generate 500 extra power

[random thicket]

Just manifold like #screenshots

[daring reef]

im producing 6380 MW

[random thicket]

looks so tidy.

[lofty pumice]

And use byproduct plastic to create some computers if you need them

[daring reef]

and my max con is 5539

[daring reef]

how so

[lofty pumice]

There are lots of guides on yt

[daring reef]

no i mean byproducts of plastic dont produce computers

[lofty pumice]

I can send you one if you want

[lofty pumice]

Ahh

[daring reef]

it is just oil

heavy oil

i wanna get alternate recipes i think

and change this whole oil rig

to make it much better

i just dont know what recipes to use

[lofty pumice]

plastic is used in circuit boards

And also computers

With adition of some copper

[daring reef]

yeah that i know

i have 15 circuit boards/min

5 for my storage and 10 for computers

i might go on a journey of harddrives /mercer spheres/ sombersloops tbh

i could just go collect them all

[limpid cairn]

Guys do you think I can expand my factory with 2 broken arms?

[granite wharf]

Anybody know when satisfactory is gonna be released on ps5

[floral jay]

guys cuz my organization is terrible and i have problems with materials but i am bit lazy to remove everything and rebuild it so should i restart?

[lofty pumice]

I just want you to know that you can have better plastic production

With additional power source

[daring reef]

i have no idea where that somber sloop im near is

like seriously

[lofty pumice]

do you use satisfactory calculator map?

[daring reef]

yesh

[hard ivy]

2025

[floral jay]

?

[lofty pumice]

Maybe some cave or cliff?

Is there any voice chat?

[steady glade]

bacckup and use scim

[floral jay]

scim?

[steady glade]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

go to interactive map, select what you dont want anymore and delete

[floral jay]

i basicly need to delete everything cuz it's just spaghetti and low efficiency

[daring reef]

i wwish i could zoom in more on the map

8x is not enough

[junior flower]

anyone made a drone megabase? what kind of fuel did you use?

[daring reef]

i cant find this sombersloop at all

i wish they included pics or something

[steady glade]

consider using the object scanner

[daring reef]

i am using it

i still cant find that sloop at all

#screenshots message

also no pic perms is annoying as hell for a game that needs u to see

[steady glade]

if you have reached tier 5, || you have access to the jetpack and can figure out the difference in elevation||

[daring reef]

i have access to tier 5

[steady glade]

did you hover over the marker and look at the height?

[daring reef]

i am tier 8

[daring reef]

yeah 200m

127*

[silk ocean]

Might be in a cave

[daring reef]

i cant find the cave

[steady glade]

can you dezoom the map and show where it is?

[silk ocean]

Fly around the high terrain and see if you can spot an entrance anywhere

[daring reef]

#screenshots message

[silk ocean]

This feels like guess the map location game xD

[steady glade]

would be nice if you dezoomed entirely and put an arrow to it, or hover and show coords

[silk ocean]

-23,623 / -37,131

(on SCIM map)

[rigid adder]

Is it true that you can not use all uranium ore on the map?

There is not enough SAM to recycle

[hard ivy]

The entrance to the cave is marked with the thicker dashed line

[daring reef]

i know im not stupid

still cant find the cave

[silk ocean]

Watch a YT video

[steady glade]

going on an adventure

[silk ocean]

I'll cannon to that location and see if I can find it

I've got that sloop so I might remember

[hard ivy]

If you use absolutely everything on the map, including sloops, it's just barely possible

[shy mulch]

The screenshot you posted shows you exactly there the cave entrance is

[daring reef]

i would have a hard time finding that specific sloop

[shy mulch]

The thick yellow line is the cave entrance, the narrow yellow lines are the cave walls

[daring reef]

i found it

really small and narrow cave

also in scim can i deselect the sloops andd things i find manually

cause i dont wanna upload save file everytime

[rigid adder]

Thanks. I didn't consider slopps

[slow kindle]

Tier 8 milestones are so hard holy shit 😭

[daring reef]

yeah they are

[rigid adder]

are they?

what are you struggling with in particular?

[hard ivy]

All milestones are pretty easy tbh

[shy mulch]

Don't think so, just upload save once a day you'll remember which ones you've collected recently

[steady glade]

Found it

[shy mulch]

What are you finding hard? There's plenty people here who can help with advice

[daring reef]

u were kinda late i already found it

[silk ocean]

Is that the entrance in my screenshot?

[daring reef]

thanks either way

[slow kindle]

Super Computer are super hard

[south lion]

What's like the best way to get a ton of power with early game things like oil

[slow kindle]

that's the only thing I really struggle with, the modular frame is hard but not so much

[slow kindle]

Coal + Water
then oil, then nuclear

Not heavy modular frame

[steady glade]

oops mb

[shy mulch]

Just focus on each of the ingredients and make them in separate factories, then bring it all together and the final step will be simple

[steady glade]

alternate recipes

[south lion]

Well yeah but I mean how to get enough oil to get too much power than I need. Do I just collect it from like 3 points on the map into 1 place?

[south lion]

What alternate recipes are there good for it?

[steady glade]

you can get more than enough power to get thrpugh phase 3 out of 300 or 600 oil

[slow kindle]

I mean I have to get more ores mined on god

[shy mulch]

There's a bunch of places on the map where loads of oil is all together

[hard ivy]

Oil -> Heavy Oil Residue -> Diluted Packaged Fuel and you've got 20 GW from 600 Oil

[south lion]

Alr

[slow kindle]

@shy mulch if you have any factory designs for super computer feel free to drop those

[deft drum]

even without the diluted fuel recipes, just HOR -> fuel direcly you get 6.66 GW of power from 600 oil

personally i find i don't need the packaged diluted fuel recipe ever

by the time i need to upgrade i have blenders

[shy mulch]

Mine is a bit of a mess, not worth copying 😂 I'm in the process of upgrading my megafactory so everything is kinda all over the place at the moment

[slow kindle]

I see, I’ll just search on YouTube

Or make a super factory of my own

[shy mulch]

Is it an issue of logistics? Like getting the raw materials together? The recipe isn't that complicated

[slow kindle]

I think It's just I use more than I produce
also my factory is worse than a spaghetti factory, its a literal mess

[shy mulch]

I'm not at pc right now but lemme see if I've got any screenshots on my phone of some of my chaos 😬

[deft drum]

insert "those wires are unmanaged, rip them out" meme (it's the human cardiovascualr system)

[slow kindle]

What ores do I need for a super computer? Cooper, Iron, Caterium?

[hard ivy]

Depends on the recipe

[slow kindle]

Don't have alternate

[deft drum]

#design-and-architecture message here was my factory that beat phase 4 after 1.0 dropped

[slow kindle]

This is actually really organized dude, ??

I'll send mine , give me a min

[hard ivy]

Default SC definitely requires caterium and oil, and I'm pretty sure you could get away with only those 2 with some clever use of alts
I would recommend adding some copper for fused quickwire tho

[shy mulch]

I posted in #screenshots the red circle is supercomputer building

[slow kindle]

Wait, It requires oil?

[deft drum]

plastic

[slow kindle]

Oh for plastic

[slow kindle]

Yeah so it's def doesn't look that much of a space, I'll build my factory today

@shy mulch How do you hide all HUD?

[shy mulch]

Press p for photo mode then click to take pic

[deft drum]

so using the alts for Caterium wire, caterium circuit board, plastic AI limiter, and caterium computer does let you make a supercomputer with only oil and caterium lmao

[hard ivy]

This is what I'd do
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Punq09PoLypbPTc6aAtb

[slow kindle]

How do you see the pic?

[slow kindle]

Cooper, water, Oil.. I can easily get all 3

[shy mulch]

Yeah you really don't need a lot of supercomputers, for most people a single manufacturer will do the job. Just aim to make each of the ingredients and you're done

[hard ivy]

And caterium.

Also, the amount to make is obviously up to you.

[shy mulch]

It tells you in #faq

[slow kindle]

yeah it seems too much, prob is alts for sure(for now)

Also here's my factory 🙂 #screenshots message

[storm talon]

I created a couple of hours yesterday creating an entire ironworks factory in the blueprint only today to realize that was a horrible idea and what I should have been doing was creating modular factories e.g. foundation and setup for screws + input and output, as well as setting up mounts for busses

[hard ivy]

If you make way less, you could easily cut the copper out
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=njBByUubyaErPK5QSDB9

[shy mulch]

That is. Something. 😎

[slow kindle]

Alot of alts...

I currently have 1 alt, I really played it wrong this playthrough I def nede to get more

[storm talon]

Is three stories of machines dedicated to just pumping out iron sheets overkill? Let's find out.

[slow kindle]

Alts: Pure Caterium, Diluted Fuel, Heavy Oil Resuide, Recycled Plastic, Caterium Circut Board, Quickwire Cable, Plastic AI Limiter, recycled rubber

[unkempt blade]

it's lovely but your factory carts are going to have such a hard time without any foundations!

[deft drum]

sir where is your foundation

[hard ivy]

8 isn't a lot
I'm using 18 in my Supercomputer Factory lol

[slow kindle]

we have foundation at home

[slow kindle]

just need to get hard drives, will be a journey for sure

my next playthrough is a playthrough where I do the most clean factory ever

because this playthrough is just a mess 😎

[hard ivy]

Missed recycled rubber

Also, tools gives you a list in the overview tab

[storm talon]

My factory was spaghetti but now I've reached tier 2, this is the time to unspaghetti right?

Sorry phase 2

[unkempt blade]

messes can be fun though, just harder to trace where items are going 😄

[slow kindle]

Yeah, def regretting it now

maybe another playthrough isn't a bad idea, but I wanna continue this one

[storm talon]

You can just tear everything down

[slow kindle]

Is that a good idea

[storm talon]

But that's me as a factorio player saying that

Idk in this game

In factorio I tore everything down like 5 times

[unkempt blade]

if you want less mess for the same save I'd build less-messy factories somewhere else and leave the mess running

[shy mulch]

If I was you I'd keep what I have and just rebuild somewhere else, the world is huge. No need to dismantle

[storm talon]

Oh?

[unkempt blade]

a running factory is worth more than a storage container full of items waiting to be built

[slow kindle]

I declare the supercomputer factory WILL be organzied 👏

@hard ivy Is a supercomputer factory without alternative recipes a bad idea?

[storm talon]

Maybe I'll reload an older save and keep my spaghetti factory running

And then tear it down later

[unkempt blade]

the other thing I've done before is build my clean factory next to my pile of mess and just switch where the ore goes when the new one is done

[storm talon]

Can you mass dismantle at some point?

[storm talon]

Not a bad idea

[shy mulch]

You can, but there's very little reason to do so

[hard ivy]

You tell me
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=AidTDZtfL5rrTu3lP9PP

[storm talon]

I like things to look pretty so that's my reason

[unkempt blade]

you can dismantle more than one item at a time or you can dismantle everything in a BP but you can't say "dismantle everything connected to this piece" otherwise

[storm talon]

@unkempt blade that's what I meant

[autumn skiff]

when/where is the parachute unlocked

[slow kindle]

It doesn't seem like a bad idea..

[unkempt blade]

in the MAM under the mycelia tree

[slow kindle]

It really doesn't, for 1.875 SPC/m? I can do that

[daring reef]

i got 21 mercery spheres

only 4 somby sloopy

[hard ivy]

It is a lot more expensive. But if you're making so little, it doesn't really matter

It's 50% more stuff to build and you've got that pesky fuel byproduct to deal with, but it's not terrible

[slow kindle]

Probably will do the no-alts build for now, I will do it in an organized factory and all

How much oil does 1 oil extractor extract?

[daring reef]

im almost done with all could storage ones

i need 33 to finish all cloud storage stack upgrades

i have 21 thats only 12 more

[hard ivy]

Depends on the node purity and clock speed 150/300/600 for impure, normal, pure respectively, at 250%

[slow kindle]

For a pure node, how much do I need to overclock it for 470? cuz 200% is 600

[hard ivy]

470/600*250

[daring reef]

#screenshots message do i have any good recipes

[hard ivy]

Or just type in 470 into the output field

[storm talon]

Oh I'd like to share a story. Recently I was searching for coal and came across a biome on the top of a mesa that was forest/jungle and somehow got my tractor stuck in a valley below some cliffs, had to abandon it and was forced to take an alternate path back out because the original path was blocked by gas producing shrooms. As I was trying to navigate back to the hub I came across a biome full of red bamboo, including a giant irradiated creature that I shot at and, realizing that was an awful idea, started running from immediately, trying to find my way through the bamboo forest and then a red forest biome until I finally managed to fall off some cliffs and get back to the hub. All this to say Satisfactory is really great at creating this feeling that the world you're in is truly alien and foreboding.

I'm still kind of scared to go back there but there's a lot of coal up there lol

[daring reef]

holy yap

[slow kindle]

(Items/m I need)/(Max Items/m) * (Max Overclock)
Is that the formula?

[hard ivy]

[desired output]/[output at x clock speed] * x
works too

Don't need to use 250% as base

[limber mulch]

@storm talon I remember that feeling! Good game eh? When I got tired of the stress I turned on enemies, making it a rather peaceful and facinating journey through the biomes.

[slow kindle]

alr , ty

[limber mulch]

Oops turned off enemies

[storm talon]

Yeah it's a really good game

[slow kindle]

Wouldn't that just give me the desired output field tho? 💀

You do smth divide by x multiply by x you get the smth again

[daring reef]

a 250% speed constructer with 2x output is insane

really something i think should be rushed asap

double power shards and 4x dna capsule

i think 118 power shards will be enough for a while

[hard ivy]

Yes. That's why I said you can just use the output field in the extractor.

This formula is only useful when you want to target a specific input

[daring reef]

are drones the best way to transfer stuff

[hard ivy]

No. They are a way to transfer stuff

[daring reef]

stuff in small quantities

like computers

i think drones are the best for that

while trains for huge quantities

and tractors are just ehh dont use them to trasnfer stuff

[silk ocean]

How come DNA is so OP in the sink

[hard ivy]

Small quantities, long distance, yes. Drones are good for that

Short distance you probably just wanna use belts

[daring reef]

its not easy to get

[unkempt blade]

factory carts enter the chat

[daring reef]

yeah i already know that

[silk ocean]

Shoot a bunch of hogs? It's not overly hard, just can't be automated

[daring reef]

hogs are limited

[silk ocean]

They respawn

[daring reef]

animals are all limited

[daring reef]

wait really

[silk ocean]

Well they are continually getting run over by my trucks so I assume so

[hard ivy]

They do, just not near factories

[daring reef]

yeah but when my factories engulf the entire map

i kinda wanna try factorio

[silk ocean]

That's a hella big factory if it covers the whole map xD

[daring reef]

thats the plan

also the map is huge

Like i always forget that it is massive

[silk ocean]

Well you can always build up to preserve the beautiful unspoilt wonders of the world xD

(and have a hog supply)

[daring reef]

how fast are drones

[hard ivy]

Depends on the fuel

[daring reef]

that sucks

[hard ivy]

Max is 45 m/s iirc

[daring reef]

oh thats fast

[deft drum]

and they have 9 slots of capacity

[silk ocean]

It's not so much speed it's items/second realistically

[gilded goblet]

How many drives are locked behind T9?

[daring reef]

they will trasnfer computers so i can craft radio control units

they dont need to be that fast

[deft drum]

if you want simplicity in fuel supply packaged turbofuel is the go to, but that limits speed to 30 m/s

[hard ivy]

5 stacks per minute is the max at 0 distance

[deft drum]

once you get nuclear then plutonium rods have the best density

[unkempt blade]

my issue with drones was always just an annoyance at needing a drone port to provide fuel on top of the 2 to export/import resources

[daring reef]

i dont even have turbofuel for my jetpack

[hard ivy]

Liquid biofuel and rocket fuel are both better than turbo for the jetpack (for different reasons)

[silk ocean]

Seems sensible yeah, I have a 628m route I'm just checking, that is 3.87 stacks/min of Time Crystals, so about 760/min

[daring reef]

i want it to last a while

[hard ivy]

Then liquid biofuel. Longest burn time, second longest hover time

[deft drum]

yeah use Biofuel

it's only really beat by packaged ionized fuel at phase 5

[hard ivy]

*Liquid Biofuel. Solid biofuel is shit

[daring reef]

whats best hover time

[hard ivy]

How long you can stay at the same height

So tapping space to stay level

[daring reef]

i said best not what is hover time

[unkempt blade]

like if I could use my existing global fuel pipeline I use for truck stops and just plug a pipe from that into a drone port that would be so much nicer. But packaged fuel means I need the 3rd port to handle fuel

[hard ivy]

Oh, ionized, sorry

[daring reef]

is that hard to make

[deft drum]

Ionized fuel has 60 seconds of "level flight"

second best is liquid biofuel at 53 seconds

[daring reef]

i really like the hoverpack

[deft drum]

mix rocket fuel with power shards

[daring reef]

what fuel do u recommend

[daring reef]

thats expensive

[deft drum]

ehh power shards are actually rather cheap

[daring reef]

i could make a small system that transforms leaves and wood to liquid biofuel

[daring reef]

limited recource

[hard ivy]

Not in tier 9

[daring reef]

tier 9 u beat the game

[shy mulch]

Tier 9 you beat the tutorial

[daring reef]

what

[gilded goblet]

one singular drive is locked behind t9? I was told by my friend it eas like 5

[hard ivy]

1 drop pod needs superposition oscillators. Everything else is tier 8 or earlier

Unless you're asking about recipes, not drives

Then it's even more than 5

[hard ivy]

List of all HDD requirements
https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/hard-drives

[shy mulch]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Hard_Drive#Alternate_recipes

Oh you beat me to it 😂

[daring reef]

can u unlock all alternate recipes

[deft drum]

20 raw quartz and either 101 coal or 25 crude oil is all you need to make 1 power shard

[daring reef]

or is there not enough drives

[deft drum]

with hard drives to spare

[daring reef]

damn thats nice

[silk ocean]

It would be a bit sucky if you couldn't, each playthru would be RNG xD

[daring reef]

and same thing abt upgrades and mercer spheres

[hard ivy]

Yes, and you'll have like 5 drives left afterwards

[gilded goblet]

Sweet, Thank you both @hard ivy, @shy mulch(kyo beat you to it but you atleast tried)

[daring reef]

u get enough to unlock all upgrades and 1 for every item

with spare

[deft drum]

here's a tip, if after a re-roll you don't like either given recipe? just don't select one

neither option will show up again in another hard drive until you select one

[hard ivy]

We sent 2 different things tho. I sent Drop Pod unlock requirements, WasIstDaz sent recipe unlock requirements

[silk ocean]

Anyone know why I randomly get an "Objective: 50 Smart Plating" box in the top right? Disappears if I exit to MM and back again, but keeps randomly appearing

[daring reef]

can i show u the recipes in my collection rn and u tell me if i have any good ones

[gilded goblet]

ah

i mean, he tried

[daring reef]

#screenshots message

[daring reef]

here are all the recipes btw i didnt reroll most of them

actually i rerolled them all except 1

[gilded goblet]

god that looks like my hard drive bay, I keep them there to remove the shit recipe's from the pool 😂

[daring reef]

the last one

[gilded goblet]

caterium computer is good

[daring reef]

so all shit nice

[gilded goblet]

Iron wire is good

[daring reef]

ok

do i reroll that last one

[hard ivy]

Put a white dot next to the ones I'd want
#screenshots message

[gilded goblet]

is there anyway to get satisfactory calculator to display my games map on my phone

[hard ivy]

Yes, just get the save file on your phone

[daring reef]

why would u want automated miner

[hard ivy]

1 miner assembler into DD and never have to craft them again

[deft drum]

when it comes to "good recipes" there are really 3 criteria

• getting more out of each node; this is mainly stuff like the "pure" ingot recipies because Water is basically free
• logistical simplicity; skipping production steps or using more common ingredients can make setting up builds quicker
• limiting machine count; if outputs are greater with one recipe it means you need less buildings for the same output

[gilded goblet]

if I sign into an account and drop my save file will it stay there

[hard ivy]

Pretty sure it gets removed when you reload

Just keep it on your phone

In downloads or w/e

[gilded goblet]

yea

[daring reef]

ok so the last one with coke i dont really like

[gilded goblet]

but i'd have to re-transfer my save file every time I want to see new drive progression

[daring reef]

i dont like to bother with coke since my aluminium and oil are really far

so id have to figure out alot of transfer

fused wire i guess will work and i dont really need automated miners

[deft drum]

iron wire is enough

[gilded goblet]

get automated miners if it's the only good thing in a drive

[deft drum]

honestly just re-roll it

[hard ivy]

If you're on steam, you can go to https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorage and you'll be able to download your cloud save without access to your Pc

[daring reef]

but quickwire cable is useless for me

[gilded goblet]

ahhhhhh

[deft drum]

can't disagree

[daring reef]

i think automated miner over quick wire cable

[gilded goblet]

then get automated miner and setup ONE assembler and put it into dimensional depo

you dont need more than that even if it's like 1 per minute cuz you dont need them till you NEED them

[daring reef]

and then fused wire over electrode aluminium scrap as my oil is far from aluminium

or

i could reroll both recipes are useless to me

is fused wire really that good

[gilded goblet]

and more than likely get worse

[daring reef]

its either fused wire or reroll

idk what to do

[deft drum]

reroll

[gilded goblet]

just adds caterium and makes it 90/min

[hard ivy]

Look, I told you what I'd want. Don't take anything unless you know you'll use it

I'd take the dotted ones as soon as I got them because I know I'll want them

[deft drum]

it has uses

[daring reef]

A wise man once said GAMBLING

FUCK YEAAH

look in screenshots

[copper pine]

how much does a nuclear pp use uranium rods at 250%

[daring reef]

#screenshots message

[deft drum]

0.5

[daring reef]

Now i dont know which to pick BOTH ARE INSANELY GOOD

ehh first is prob better

[deft drum]

if you got power problems yeah

[copper pine]

nice thx

[daring reef]

i will have soon

[gilded goblet]

imo i dont think diluted fuel is that good? but I haven't played this game much roughly 120 hours

[daring reef]

plastic with that recipe is aweful

[gilded goblet]

you want diluted packaged fuel, thats the insane recipe

[daring reef]

i have almost 100 hours

[deft drum]

both get you the same fuel/HOR

[gilded goblet]

i see

[daring reef]

so im taking diluted fuel then

[gilded goblet]

like i said, i'm surely phase 4 but I'm stupid asf so

[hard ivy]

The best recipe for plastic

[daring reef]

i dont really think so its a hastle

[gilded goblet]

ehhhhh

[hard ivy]

4.5 times less oil per plastic than default

[gilded goblet]

you just plug rubber and left over HOR into a refinery

[deft drum]

actually the fuel+rubber/plastic ->plastic/rubber recipe gets you the most of each per unit of crude

[daring reef]

4.5 less or more

[ivory condor]

1:3 rubber/plastic conversion is pretty crazy

[daring reef]

oh wait im stupid

so basically it 5x my plastic per oil

[gilded goblet]

yep

[daring reef]

damn that was good ehh ill get it again soon

i kinda wanna setup a power plant

in a far oil node i dont use

[deft drum]

what phase u at

[hard ivy]

You need diluted fuel for that chain anyway (+ heavy oil residue, recycled rubber and residual rubber)

[daring reef]

exactly yeah

[ivory condor]

its basically 600 oil to 1800 plastic/rubber or whatever amounts you need

[daring reef]

i have residual rubber and plastic and diluted fuel

i dont have heavy oil residue or recycled rubber

[hard ivy]

You have residual rubber. It's default. I just put it in there because residual plastic is worse, so you have to use res rubber specifically

[daring reef]

what recipes do i need to setup a good oil power plant

[hard ivy]

Heavy Oil Residue, diluted fuel for sure

The rest depends on what you want to make exactly and at what cost

[daring reef]

i dont have heavy oil residue

i just want oil -> power

[deft drum]

do you have rocket fuel yet?

[daring reef]

its going to be on the furthest node from me

[hard ivy]

Then you need HOR

[daring reef]

no

[hard ivy]

Unless you want to spend like 2x more oil on the same amount of power

[daring reef]

thats a refinery recipe right

[hard ivy]

Oil -> HOR -> DF gives 20 GW for each 600 oil

[daring reef]

GW is insane

[deft drum]

you can get 144 GW from 600 crude, 800 coal, 1600 sulfur, and 1200 nitrogen gas using nitro rocket fuel

plus 400 compacted coal/minute i guess

[ivory condor]

Well if you don't have you can always do the 1:2 conversion, it isn't as good but still can work in the mean time, still need recycled rubber/plastic recipes though

[daring reef]

i dont think i can extract nitrogen yet

[grim hound]

yeah diluted fuel into turbofuel is probably best for a fuel power plant right?

[daring reef]

i only produce 6 GW

[deft drum]

neg

[hard ivy]

Not really. Turbofuel is very meh

[neon kraken]

Only 12,600 oil on the map

[daring reef]

so an extra 20 will be insane

[grim hound]

so its not worth it to bring the coal and sulfur over?

[deft drum]

if you're making turbofuel you could just make rocket fuel

[ivory condor]

The king of fuel power is Rocket fuel now🚀

[daring reef]

so i need oil thats it

and getting that recipe will be easy

[grim hound]

so for a fuel plant i should use either normal fuel or rocket fuel?

[deft drum]

WARNING

doing this will require 231 FULLY OVERCLOCKED fuel generators

[deft drum]

imho yes

[hard ivy]

The only advantage turbofuel has over regular fuel is oil efficiency. In all other aspects it's as good or worse. You use turbofuel if you specifically need the oil efficiency and don't care about anything else, and otherwise you don't

And that's assuming you don't have rocket fuel, because that has an even higher oil efficiency

[grim hound]

alr

[ivory condor]

basically you go diluted fuel to rocket fuel, if thats what your aiming for

turbo fuel only has two real uses, one is personal use and the other is to make that into rocket fuel now

[daring reef]

im so confused what should i actually do i have all the tiers up to tier 7 completed

plus drones in tier 8

[hard ivy]

Either do diluted fuel right now, or wait for rocket fuel

Rocket fuel is tier 8

[deft drum]

the advanced aluminum production milestone will get you the ability to use nitrogen

[grim hound]

alr thx

[daring reef]

its not an expensive milestone

[deft drum]

from there leading-edge production getys you mk3 miners

[daring reef]

i cant do that rn i dont have super computers nor that modular frame thing that looks like my nightmares yet

[daring reef]

rocket fuel sounds op

how do i make it though

[gilded goblet]

im working on that rn

[deft drum]

with mk2 miners there is jsut enough sulfur at the Blue Crater to do this btw

50 to spare

[ivory condor]

Though once you get to that stage you have to decide if you want to do the simpler route for large scale power aka rocket fuel being the obvious option or going the interesting but more complex route aka nuclear power

[gilded goblet]

it is

[daring reef]

so make a power plant in blue crater

also where is blue crater

[deft drum]

southwest

[daring reef]

and how do i get 693 Power things

i thought 100 was alot

[deft drum]

you probably don't need 144 GW of power yet

[ivory condor]

power shards in this game are now infinite, you find this out later

[daring reef]

I dont need yeah i only use 5 GW so far

[deft drum]

have you been using somersloops on your slug processing?

[daring reef]

also can u screenshot where blue crator is

[ivory condor]

well they were always infinite but now its easier than ever to get a fast and limitless supply of power shards

[daring reef]

yeah

[deft drum]

💕

[deft drum]

good

[daring reef]

im still confused on what type of fuel i should use

[deft drum]

diluted is a damn good starting point

[ivory condor]

All I need is production of sloops and mercer spheres and I would be unstoppable

[daring reef]

ill use diluted for now i guess

only oil

good starting point

[hard ivy]

You can upgrade it later

[deft drum]

once you hit power problems the two choices are rocket fuel or nuclear

[daring reef]

ok

[hard ivy]

To either default rocket or nitro rocket

[ivory condor]

granted producing sloops would be pretty game breaking because thats literally limitless power to, just with the augmenters

[deft drum]

Default rocket does save you sulfur but uses mroe crude and is waaaaaaaaay more complex

[ivory condor]

Me imagining having thousands of augmenters just to start with

[hard ivy]

I remember calculating before release how much power dozens of augmenters could get you

But then we got hit with the 10 sloop each cost lol

[prime jasper]

Is there a way to automate inhaler? It doesn't look like it can be, but is is confusing because most consumables are

[hard ivy]

I remember on Reddit we were theorizing they'd cost 1-5

[hard ivy]

Nope. For whatever reason

[ivory condor]

Yeah, im just imagining being able to make sloops, then the 10 each cost doesn't really matter

but no good way to balance them at that point, hence my thoughts I would basically be breaking the game, as nothing could balance the sloops

[hard ivy]

I don't love the way sloops are implemented tbh

[ivory condor]

Still I want to do it for a truly max production, with all machines slooped, because it would be really fun

[ivory condor]

Well I do have cases where I want to sloop more, thats the part that really annoys me, why I'm just tempted to give myself more sloops to be honest, they give good use cases, aka increasing production but we aren't given nearly enough to really make good use of that

[atomic notch]

Maybe just add sloops to lizard dog loot pool

[silk ocean]

105/106 sloops collected... My sloopin' days are over... Might actually have to build a proper factory now instead of driving a crowbar into every problem XD

[ivory condor]

I'll just solve my problems the usual way aka scim

not enough sloops, look I magically have 100k sloops, that should be plenty

[silk ocean]

xD

[hard ivy]

The game's recipes aren't really balanced for doubling the output at every step. If you could do that, everything would quickly become very easy and cheap to make
So they have to be limited

[silk ocean]

Yea

[hard ivy]

I think it would be better if sloops were only used for augmenters and nothing else

[silk ocean]

It is easy to become reliant on them.. "Just sloop it", that'll solve it for now

All fun and games until they run out

[hard ivy]

I only use sloops on slugs and remains

[ivory condor]

what about FFRs

because we all know how ass those recipes are....

[hard ivy]

With sloops in every step, they'd be cheap too

But I haven't done the math whether they'd be more or less worth it

[ivory condor]

going from insanely expensive, to so cheap indeed

I haven't either actually

But you know with enough sloops maybe I could make FFRs worth using somehow

[smoky forge]

o yeah i switched the 1 and the 2 lol

[hard ivy]

Most of 1.0 feels like the devs were trying to add "cool" stuff, rather than aim for good game design

[torn furnace]

found a hole in a mountain that isn't supposed to be there i think.

i went up a water fall turn around a few rock and saw trees and grass floating before bumping my head under the invisible ceiling / floor.

where / how do i repport that ?

[ivory condor]

I like cool stuff, but i also want cool stuff i can actually use

[silk rose]

qna website. doesnt seem like they would fix that tho

theres bug reporter

[hard ivy]

Yeah, I reported one hole years ago, and I'm pretty sure it's still there

[torn furnace]

its just a rock wall to add XD, its not important, but i thoght that wase my way out of the small pit i fallen into for a slug

[silk rose]

there is much stuff like that on map this huge

also there are general out of bounds bugs that css ignore cuz they appear only if you want them to

[torn furnace]

i just notice the Days without incident going to 0 when i died LOL

[slate python]

Can you get coupons from monsters

[silk rose]

cool feature

[slow kindle]

@hard ivy In this recipe tree: https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=bAJKXn203g8jDhFvATZY
It doesn't matter how many smelters I use aslong as I get the same resource input + output, right? (234 Caterium Ingot/m input & 78 Caterium Ingot/m output)

[silk rose]

kill them, process their meat

[slow kindle]

Like I can tweak 3 smelters to act the same as 5.2, does it matter?

[torn furnace]

yes , you have to turn them to meat , then DNA for more points =)

[ivory condor]

map this huge, interesting thing to say given I can think of other games that easily have maps far larger than this

[slate python]

I like turning animals into meat 🤨

[hard ivy]

The numbers Tools gives are for 100% speed machines. You can overclock or underclock however you like, as long as you get the same output

[ivory condor]

I wonder if they think this is huge what they would think of ff15, given that map is exponentially larger

[slow kindle]

Alr, thanks

[torn furnace]

like the shell , spider body can be turned into a meat thingy , and that can be turned into DNA.

the MAM make you do that a few times

[steady compass]

any italians here?

[gilded goblet]

@hard ivy what would be the best course of action for getting all the alts? dont claim any then when it says no scans avaliable claim whichever ones then do it again?

[torn furnace]

its proteine , not meat sorry.

[hard ivy]

Basically. Scan drives and don't take anything unless a drive has 2 recipes that you want. Then once you have all the remaining recipes in single drives, take all of them.

Or you can save scum rerolls

[gilded goblet]

I seeee

[manic patio]

for assemblers does it matter which input intake i use?

[placid stirrup]

Naur

[manic patio]

aight thx

[placid stirrup]

You don't even have to use both

[torn furnace]

if you wanted you could import all of it in a single belt =)

[hard ivy]

Good luck with that tho

[placid stirrup]

Never said it was simple, only that it's possible

[manic patio]

dam

[torn furnace]

that true fror every machine you can mix all input order or do it all on a single, but don't mix it can clog up.

you can also mix pipe input , but don't mix liquid (and i don't think you can do it in a pipe)

[bright helm]

Why can't I put heavy oil residue into liquid storage for trains?

idk what is the name of this building but u probably know what I mean

[torn furnace]

into the Conditioner ?

you should be able to, you need empty cans and heavy oil

but can liquid go up enough ? maybe your missing a pump or somthing

or using the export side ?

[slow kindle]

@hard ivy I'm really struggling with the building tbf, I have 5 smelters and 6 constructors and I have no idea how to make it so that every ingot gets divided properly

ykwim?

[hard ivy]

Merge all of them on one belt

Then manifold

[slow kindle]

What's manifolding 🔥

[bright helm]

yes I meant freight platform but for liquid. I built pump and heavy oil residue slowly goes up, but it cant enter the freight platform

even if pipes are full

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch manifold

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=manifold

[slow kindle]

Ok ty

[torn furnace]

there is a setting in the sation is it pushing or pulling from cargo ?

[bright helm]

It pulls liquid

bc I set it as loading mode

[urban notch]

Im kinda new, but I have a question as to why are trucks or trains are useful, when you can just conveyor?

[torn furnace]

if your pulling from your cargo, it can't load it in.

[ivory condor]

Hmmm looks like reducing sam usage to 3360 for 126 plutonium waste is possible and would require only a additional 28 sloops, which is actually alot better than the original 10k sam usage I was looking at with some of the more optimized recipes, still goes to show how high sam usage still is even if you were to sloop all of the constructors, because there is no alts for reanimated sam

[slow kindle]

btw my factory is lowkey turning to look good 🔥

[bright helm]

its pulling from pipes and loading trains. Atleast it should look like this

Bc it doesnt work

[torn furnace]

Bluk Transport , also Distance coverd with less material using Trucks or Train.

but belts are fin might just get laggy at some point, i still have no transport and the game dosen't like it XD

[urban notch]

ahhh I see, thx

[ivory condor]

now that i think about it that would be a decent way to tackle some of those recipe usage issues via modded recipes, coming up with a good alt for reanimated sam perhaps

[torn furnace]

the little arrow go in the box or out ?

[bright helm]

it goes in

[slow kindle]

@hard ivy #math-and-meta message

[manic patio]

is there a way to block a portion of storage like in factorio?

[torn furnace]

trucks are skipable, but trains are awsome.

you will see drones later, they can be intresting but the fly low, you want your import / export platfrom at ground levels for them to be faster ( assending and decending fast)

[urban notch]

nice!

[slow kindle]

If i have a large manifold of 390 quickwire, how do I make 75 of them go direction X while the other 315 go direction Y?

[ivory condor]

This game could become exciting with pollution and bitters in it

[gilded goblet]

im using trains and im gonna use drones soon

[hard ivy]

1 splitter works
for the same reason that manifolds work

[manic patio]

fr

[ivory condor]

now that i think about it we already have spiders which are a form of insects

[manic patio]

base defence might be fun

[stable warren]

why the hell can i make a cyber wagon, and its complete trash 😭

[hard ivy]

go play factorio then

[ivory condor]

little do you know i'm already doing that

where do you think i get my ideas from....

[manic patio]

also is there a way to block slots in storage container?

i dont have smart splitters yet

[ivory condor]

i wonder if there is any mods yet to add base defense to the game yet

[hard ivy]

well, you can fill them with garbage

[ivory condor]

surely im not the only one who would find it exciting for bitters to rush at my base as my pollution cloud grows

[manic patio]

ye thats wat im doing with my other storage container but this storage container connects to another part of the factory so i cant mix with garbage

[torn furnace]

the only thing you can do is make longer betls if you want to store a tiny ammount, or just make 1 bin for eatch item.

you could aslo just push everything in a SNINK and buy items from the shop LOL

[deft drum]

sink enough stuff and you can buy your way through a phase

[torn furnace]

Sink enough stuff and you get prety statue =)

[shy mulch]

Block as in you want to reduce the amount of space available? Just put some stuff you don't need in the slots

Oh I just saw someone already said that

Why do you want to do that?

[azure linden]

Hey, which recipe should i choose? Encased Industrial Pipe or Solid Steel Ingot?

[true mulch]

both are great, I'd choose solid steel of those two

[azure linden]

I'm preparing for Hmfs, so i went on a drive search

because i didn't feel like supplying 2640/min iron for it lol

i'm trying to do it cheaper (my goal is 12/min)

any specific alternatives that might help?

[true mulch]

encased industrial pipe, heavy encased frame

or, well, https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production create a plan here and it will choose the most resource-efficient recipes from those you enable

but keep in mind that simplicity can be better than resource efficiency

[hard ivy]

I'd do
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=ifRP70XQucySFT1sffRw
or
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=aJJcque6ctsxXQJFKWnJ

[true mulch]

blehhh, pure iron, but otherwise looks good

[azure linden]

tbh the second one looks more plausible

[hard ivy]

cuts the iron nearly in half

no reason not to use it imo

[azure linden]

also i only have mk4 belts and mk2 miners soooooo

[true mulch]

I'm just a refinery hater

[azure linden]

chonky machine hater lol

[hard ivy]

1100 iron would only be 3-4 normal/pure nodes

depending where you are, it could totally be feasible

[azure linden]

dune desert? idk the name (right upper corner)

[hard ivy]

there's like 3-4 spots with enough iron

all near water too

[fast roost]

is satisfactory tools.com still reliable? i see that it doesnt have a drop down for 1.1 only 1.0

[hard ivy]

elevator and prio merger are missing from the codex, but the recipe planner is fully accurate

[fast roost]

alr thx

[peak wasp]

i did a co op save with my friend how do i enable flying?

[prime jasper]

Those big green spider are reall a pain in the ass when they manage to get into duos or worse.🫠

[hard ivy]

you need to enable advanced game settings first

[peak wasp]

how do i do that?

[hard ivy]

the host has to load -> load settings -> advanced game settings

But if you're on a dedicated server, then I don't know

[peak wasp]

oh aweesome tysm

[subtle swan]

are belts connected in blue prints?

[fast roost]

they are in 1.1

[subtle swan]

Lets, go

[fast roost]

that is if you have 2 blueprints (like a belt highway) they will auto connect

[hard ivy]

if you connect them when making the blueprint, they'll be connected when you paste it

1.1 added the ability to automatically connect belts between blueprints

[topaz shale]

So when you guys set up stuff for raw materials for building, do you have the depots inside the factory that would make other parts for like teh versitile frameworks and just pull the steel from that or do you have a completely separate area for making the raw materials for building?

[hard ivy]

all of my factories make items exclusively for myself. sometimes I make multiple items in one factory, but all of them only use raw ores. I never build a factory that'd make an item both for myself and for some other, more advanced item

[torn furnace]

Dogos lost all brian cels , it wont MOVE out of my may. i can't build mor platform , but i don't want to kill it, it got me Plutonium rod twice

[topaz shale]

Oh ok so 1 major factory that makes all of your mall items and then separate factories for the space elevator parts. I see.

[torn furnace]

or afk for the night XD

[hard ivy]

nope. neither

items for my personal use are made in multiple factories scattered all over the world. each one is placed where it's convenient. most of them make 1 or 2 different items, at most one makes 5

and I don't automate space elevator parts at all. I just build a tiny temporary factory whenever the time to complete the phase comes

[subtle swan]

i managed to die on the space elevator. is my crate now on top of there i tried looking on the ground but couldnt find it

[topaz shale]

I see. Do you just pull out the items needed for the elevator parts when it comes time from either a depot or were some are stored?

I might try this strat out, ngl.

Don't know why I didn't think of this.

Well luckily my smart plates are almost complete for Phase 2.

[hard ivy]

My space elevator parts factory consists of 1 machine per item, all slooped and overclocked. They're fed items from containers. I put the items into containers myself. Small quantities are pulled from the depot, but if I need a lot of something, I'll usually hop over to the factory that makes it and pull it out from the container that's the buffer for the depot