satisfactory

[hard ivy]

Even tho I basically never fill more than 20

[quiet gust]

i think im more used to having 200 modeed in slots back in the day i didnt even realize a difference

[outer hatch]

To answer your question, it's a recurrent issue : https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/search?sort=1&search=inventory slots&date=All Time

[hushed solstice]

look

https://streamable.com/80d8am

[twilit escarp]

1 done #screenshots message, 4 and half more to go

(they are all at 250% with fuel)

[candid bronze]

where do i add suggestions?

[shy mulch]

write it on a coupon and put it in the awesome sink

[candid bronze]

deadass?

[hushed solstice]

and only 42

[quiet gust]

yes

[hushed solstice]

I dont think any of + inventory slots worked in my game

[quiet gust]

ficsit reads the suggestions very closely

[hard ivy]

Well, you have 42 so I'm pretty sure at least one did

[hushed solstice]

Propably one

But even hard drive +6 didnt added it

I read reddit that i'm not only one and i can fix it with scim

what is scim?

[quiet gust]

satisfactory calculator

[hard ivy]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[hard ivy]

I'm pretty sure only like one or two of them are supposed to not work

Because the game's trying to sync the slots from doing/skipping the onboarding

Because you get the wrong amount

Or so I've heard

[quiet gust]

huh, never knew that

[hushed solstice]

i skipped onboard

[brisk stream]

what should i take or rescan #screenshots

[quiet gust]

i would take HOR and diluted packaged fuel for power, otherwise save everything till you need it

(IDK if you have DLP tho)

[brisk stream]

i ahvent used any hard drives

[hard ivy]

Yeah, I don't know specifics. I'd say that because of the desync, you'd end up with a different amount of slots after all upgrades. Because the upgrades just "add". But apparently not. Despite the desync, you're apparently supposed to end up with the same amount regardless

[quiet gust]

in the library

i heavily recomend those two alts

save the rest till you need them

[hushed solstice]

Does it mean i need to start all over again? Fresh game with onboarding on?

[twilit escarp]

i am now making my diluted fuel factory, just one pure oil node and dammm....

[quiet gust]

it 4x thew fuel gain and i believe gives 33% more polymer resin

[hard ivy]

Put a white dot next to the ones I'd want

[twilit escarp]

#screenshots message here@quiet gust

[brisk stream]

ty

[quiet gust]

you could do turbo fuel if u want

[hard ivy]

Like I said, you're apparently supposed to end up with the same number in the end. I just don't know why or how. Or if that's what's gonna happen in your case

[twilit escarp]

ik, i am doing one step at a time

i just now finished ONE node

[wicked nacelle]

You're going to want turbo fuel eventually -- may as well get the boost now vs waiting til later for the same amount of work

[restive summit]

is there an image showing the map border of the game

[twilit escarp]

just need 3 more pure nodes + 1 impure

[quiet gust]

i just mean bc ur in the crator thats the best place for that

[hushed solstice]

Alright so is it safe to ignore

[hard ivy]

Not really. I'd never want to burn turbo for power

[twilit escarp]

going to do rocket

but for now just fuel

[quiet gust]

nitro rocket or reg focket

[wicked nacelle]

but if you're going to make rocket fuel you may as well burn the turbo fuel now. it's the same amount of work

[twilit escarp]

(i cant even do rocket rn, but its in the project list)

[hard ivy]

Unless you do nitro

[wicked nacelle]

you still need to make some turbo fuel to recycle the compressed coal

unless you're just going to waste it

[hard ivy]

You can just sink it

[digital timber]

is there a way to change everything on my save to chrome finish but the pipes

[twilit escarp]

reg

[quiet gust]

or just sink it and save the time (or do what i did and make it into steel)

[quiet gust]

right click on chrome finish

[quiet gust]

what turbo fuel are u gonna make

[twilit escarp]

ik i will need the turbo anyway

[solid apex]

guys not to interrupt but what is that awesome website where you can make a flowchart to conceptualize your factory

[wicked nacelle]

you're going to need coal and suflur by your oil. Even if you tore down the turbo later (not sure why you would) it's still worth doing to me

[hard ivy]

Also, for default rocket, you probably want turbo blend, not default turbo

[quiet gust]

its a tool on steam called satisfactory modeler

[tulip sail]

Someone tell me if this is correct with 900 oil per minute and with the heavy oil residue and diluted fuel i can feed 90 fuel generators ?

[twilit escarp]

#screenshots message here is my plan

[digital timber]

but for already built stuff

[solid apex]

you are amazing thank you

[quiet gust]

turbo blend is weird to add into premade fuel tho

[quiet gust]

cant

[twilit escarp]

stil thinking about how much coal + sulfur going to use

[wicked nacelle]

use a calculator and find out. no one knows offhand.

[tulip sail]

so nice of you thank you

[quiet gust]

120

[wicked nacelle]

the game is all about math. getting used to doing it is worth doing now

[quiet gust]

but yeah do the math on ur own imo

i just have HOR ratios memorized

[tulip sail]

i did and apprently i was wrong

[quiet gust]

fortunately wrong in a good way

but use a calculator or modeling tool

[hard ivy]

Which is exactly why I'm questioning the usefulness of making turbo in tier 5 to use for rocket later. Even making fuel with that in mind is questionable
I'd say it's best to make rocket from scratch

[twilit escarp]

but one step at a time

[quiet gust]

i am using blend for my ionized fuel in the future but i mathed it out so i had extra oil for HOR and extra fuel

[quiet gust]

it does matter though, if ur doing blend you need to set some oiull aside

[twilit escarp]

naa, i am doing normal

[hard ivy]

Using blend for power directly is stupid lmao

[twilit escarp]

less trouble spliting and such

[quiet gust]

blend is a weird recipe

[twilit escarp]

already had some trouble this way, and its not that complicated, imagine if i went with the advanced method

[quiet gust]

doesnt blend use more oil

like, a lot more

[wicked nacelle]

and less sulfur

[quiet gust]

and no coal

[wicked nacelle]

it's an odd tradeoff to be excited about -- yeah oh no coal 😛

[quiet gust]

(diamonds)

[wicked nacelle]

the oil you save can make diamonds, though

[quiet gust]

(it uses more oil to make blend though)

[hard ivy]

If you're burning it for fuel, it's just better to burn diluted fuel instead. Blend is not worth the sulfur

[wicked nacelle]

right that's what I'm saying. Saving coal to lose oil seems odd

what are you going to do with the sulfur?

[quiet gust]

but for reg rocket fuel im assuming is the use. or like maybe diamonds

[wicked nacelle]

sulfur is a stretch ingredient. stretch your oil

[hard ivy]

Well, yeah. I said it's stupid to burn it for power directly

[quiet gust]

i think it has the best ratios imo for diamonds

[quiet gust]

yeah

[wicked nacelle]

it's not stupid to do while you progress to getting rocket fuel. You have everything you need why not just have more power

[quiet gust]

cause reg turbo fuel

[wicked nacelle]

oh yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

[quiet gust]

and it needs less infrasturcture, you can directly upgrade

[marble fractal]

Can I use the valve for pipes to make water go through a tube and not come back?

[wicked nacelle]

sort of. I think fluids can still... "bounce" back through them to some extent?

[hard ivy]

You can, but that's almost always a useless thing to do

[wicked nacelle]

Usually there's ajust a better solution that doesn't involve them

[quiet gust]

dont use valves is tyhe answetr they are unintuitive and dont do what you want

[marble fractal]

Only solution I can think of but don’t know how they work

[quiet gust]

are you doing aluminum

[marble fractal]

Yes lol

I did it a while ago and came back only to find out it wasn’t full efficient

[quiet gust]

you need two systems, one that runs on fresh water and one on waste water

never mix waste water and fresh water

[hard ivy]

Or a VIP. Those work fine too

[marble fractal]

Why it’s both water

[quiet gust]

that too

[quiet gust]

inconsistencies add up and cause the pipes to fill up with water

[marble fractal]

I’m just gonna sink the extra water and do 2 360 water per minute

[quiet gust]

not sure exactly what but it never works

[hard ivy]

Or the new priority merger if you're a memer kekw

[quiet gust]

you can but that gets hard very quickly

[marble fractal]

How

[quiet gust]

eventually you dont have enough stuff to mix with the water to sink it

opr its annoying to get

[hard ivy]

You get 70% of the water back. Sinking it means you need to extract 3x more

[quiet gust]

that too

[hard ivy]

Plus all the resources to actually sink it

Use it for something useful, like pure copper for the sheets and casings or something

[quiet gust]

i have a diagam in gasme a can show ( or ig an example) and its super small scale so its easy to comprehend

[wicked nacelle]

default recipe self-using wastewater is easy. sloppy is the harder one. instant you just send it right back to the acid and it's perfect numbers

[hard ivy]

Or wet concrete for the depot

[marble fractal]

Well I got 2 refineries making 120 each, so 240 total, and the start needs 180 for 4 machines so I don’t know

[quiet gust]

instant be pogging fr

[marble fractal]

This is confusing

[quiet gust]

first off what recipes are you using

[marble fractal]

Bauxite+water, alumina solution+coal

[wicked nacelle]

default or sloppy?

[quiet gust]

sloppy alumina or regular

[marble fractal]

Uhh

[quiet gust]

did you unlock an alternate recipe

[marble fractal]

Yea

[wicked nacelle]

is it called "sloppy alumina" and are you trying to use it?

[quiet gust]

do you make silica as a byproduct

[marble fractal]

Im using normal I just checked

[wicked nacelle]

so make 2 alumina and 1 scrap refineries and tie them together and feed in the amount of water that it needs minus the wastewater. At 250% it's exactly 600 fresh to feed it which is really nice

[marble fractal]

Yes silica

[quiet gust]

i have literally never used the regular recipe chain, and this factory is going to be the first time

never knew it was so simple

[wicked nacelle]

it really is nice.

[quiet gust]

idk why ppl hate on instant scrap, you only need so much sulfur for power

[marble fractal]

I’m still confused

[wicked nacelle]

@marble fractal https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1402453677930709074/image.png?ex=6893f845&is=6892a6c5&hm=6c616f32337f5564c31b8e6d588997da49724f907d9db91a417fb0994524176b& this is all you need to do with water -- the blue end is where the fresh water comes in

if you overclock them to 250% the water input is 600

default it's 240 input. don't overfeed it water

[marble fractal]

I don’t want to overclock anything

[wicked nacelle]

just use 2 normal clocked extractors

[marble fractal]

I just have extra water, th factory is already built

[quiet gust]

then build more

[wicked nacelle]

sounds like it's built wrong?

I mean.. or just yeah.. make some wet cement I guess

[quiet gust]

t here should be no extra water

[sturdy jacinth]

if i want to make a blueprint for rotors, is it better for the blueprint to accept rods + screws, or accept ingots and craft those in the blueprint?

this also applies to building any type of blueprint for a material

[marble fractal]

You guys said not to mix the water made vs water extracted no?

[quiet gust]

yes but fuel some machines using only the waste water

[quiet gust]

whatever you prefer tbh

[wicked nacelle]

you can tie them together if you're careful

[marble fractal]

Wym careful

[wicked nacelle]

you don't have to be as careful if you use the wastewater elsewhere

[dawn heath]

(pipeline priority issues?)

[quiet gust]

pipes are goofyy lets put it that way

[sturdy jacinth]

hm ok. for now i guess ill try the raw ingot input approach, but i have a feeling that it will not be a scalable approach if i get late game

[marble fractal]

I can send a pic in screenshots I need to draw rq I let u know when

[soft ore]

pretty please give us more sam nodes

[quiet gust]

it wont scale to the highest product but it can make it simpler to get from raw reasource to mid tier item

[quiet gust]

also i highly recomend getting a rotor alt

[sturdy jacinth]

which one?

[quiet gust]

steel rotor if you dont like screws, coppor rotor if you dont mind screws

[sturdy jacinth]

do i need hard drives to get those alts?

[ivory condor]

What do you wish was different?

[sturdy jacinth]

im a bit of a noob lol, my bad

[quiet gust]

yeah

[quiet gust]

i fu dont want to now no worries but future you will be grateful

[ivory condor]

personally if I had more efficient recipes with sam usage, current amount of nodes would be fine

[marble fractal]

I sent it in #screenshots

[ivory condor]

problem is things like FFRs are very expensive, especially with sam usage, which for me discourages usage

[sturdy jacinth]

is overclocking scalable?

[ivory condor]

sure having more sam nodes would help with that, but thats also a recipe problem to

[sturdy jacinth]

i mean, it feels like it would become a pain to look for a lot of slugs

[soft ore]

honestly just more sam, I really like making giant factories and there’s just not enough sam in the world for me to use to make everything

[wicked nacelle]

yes, eventually

[quiet gust]

( tier nine llets u automate them)

[sturdy jacinth]

ohhhh fancy

[ivory condor]

well can always use mods to fix that and pretend those are more nodes

[quiet gust]

thats what im building rn

[sturdy jacinth]

fitting a basic rotor facitility into a 1 floor 4x4 space is like impossible. i feel like i should overclock

[ivory condor]

so there are solutions, modding wise, just nothing really in vanilla

[marble fractal]

Seems like I’m still confused

[quiet gust]

its definently possible, i wouldnt overclock this early into the game yet

[soft ore]

I mean yeah I’m tempted to do that I just don’t like modding satisfactory too much :p

[dense violet]

The same if you decide to do 200 nuclear pasta and complain there isn’t enough copper, yes

[quiet gust]

sounds like a challenge

[hard ivy]

The power penalty is only 34%, so you can easily tank that as soon as you get coal. The only issue is the shards. You can automate them in tier 9, so at that point you can overclock absolutely everything freely, but you can do that earlier depending how many shards you have

[quiet gust]

without sloops its a min of 480 copper per pasta

[ivory condor]

Well on the plus side with the game development winding down, mods probably aren't going to break as much in the future

[wicked nacelle]

but you can use sloops to double the number of shards you get per snail

[quiet gust]

there is 36900 copper

[wicked nacelle]

ore. x2.5 for pure ingots

[soft ore]

lol yeah, maybe I’ll try out modding again I tried it when game was in early access but not as of recent

[quiet gust]

(480 ore per pasta using pure i already acoounted and haver that number memorized)

so 76.875 is the max w/o conversiones or sloops

[hard ivy]

Yeah, it pisses me off that I can't have both a decent Ficsonium and a decent Matrix setup

[ivory condor]

Well copper powder is very expensive to make to

[quiet gust]

but you can only reasonably use sloops on the final product

so 153.75

[wicked nacelle]

it's not. copper in this game is nearly useless otherwise

[ivory condor]

It's actually pretty easy to run out of copper in the world with nuclear pasta given how expensive that powder is

[wicked nacelle]

any recipe I can stretch by throwing copper at it I do

[hard ivy]

Depends what you're making. Max Ficsonium puts sloops in Ficsite

[ivory condor]

and no alts to improve the efficiency either

[wicked nacelle]

I get 8% more casings if I use 3 pure copper nodes? Okay

[quiet gust]

(pasta)

bbbut that would be 248 sloops

soooo

[hard ivy]

Max pasta probably puts sloops in copper powder

Haven't checked tho

[quiet gust]

idk im done mathing, but i think 200 pasta per min is possible

[wicked nacelle]

why wouldn't it put them on pasta?

oh I guess maybe... the 1x vs 4x sloops per?

[ivory condor]

yep

putting it in the machines to make the powder is the best usage for the sloops

[marble fractal]

How am I supposed to use valves so the water doesn’t go back? If the arrow is pointing right and I set the flow to 0 does that mean it can’t go right or it can’t go left

[wicked nacelle]

don't use valves - they're a noob trap

[marble fractal]

Well it’s my only solution

[dense violet]

You don’t. Valves do a bad job of it

[quiet gust]

yeah that would be only 64 sloops

[wicked nacelle]

it's not.

[quiet gust]

i misrememberd copper powder numbers

[marble fractal]

Look at the photo I sent in screenshots

[ivory condor]

Good because you'll sacrifice all of that copper to the copper powder gods😉

[wicked nacelle]

you're limiting your solutions to bad ones and then saying you have to do that

[marble fractal]

There no other way I thought

[wicked nacelle]

I make a lot of pasta. I still have a ton of unused copper nodes

[ivory condor]

Better use the pure recipes to given how much copper you need indeed

[quiet gust]

200 pasta per min is def possible if my roughest estimate is nearly 260 with 40 sloops to spare and no converters used

[dense violet]

That photo barrel shows anything

[quiet gust]

200 pasta would only use 80 sloops if only slooping powder

[dense violet]

Post in #math-and-meta , show me what you’re doing there

[marble fractal]

Ok

[wicked nacelle]

2 water extractors, 2 alumina refineries, 1 scrap refinery. Tie the wastewater and the freshwater together. Done.

no valves needed

[hard ivy]

With double the copper available, SFTools says just over 200 pasta is possible

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1402453677930709074/image.png?ex=6893f845&is=6892a6c5&hm=6c616f32337f5564c31b8e6d588997da49724f907d9db91a417fb0994524176b&

[quiet gust]

however that would be 200 cubes

[marble fractal]

But u said I can’t mix them

[hard ivy]

I'll check with SF Optimizer later

[wicked nacelle]

I didn't say that

[marble fractal]

Someone did

[wicked nacelle]

Yep, it's "safer" not to but if you do it right its fine to

[quiet gust]

is it even possible to make 200 cubes

[marble fractal]

See this

[quiet gust]

i said it bc its normally better to to do that

[wicked nacelle]

you can be sloppy if you send your water somewhere else. You have to be precise if you don't. But I just told you how

[ivory condor]

really i just put in a number and the max i got is 134/min hmmm

[hard ivy]

It's possible to make 300 PCCs even without using any copper

[marble fractal]

I did do that last time it wasn’t working I think but I did have cables down so maybe that’s why

[quiet gust]

you would have to convert into bauxite though

[marble fractal]

I’m gonna rebuild it right now I will let you guys know how it works

[quiet gust]

but its not too bad i now realize

[ivory condor]

hmmm i tried going over 134/min nuclear pasta and no results were found, i think im at the limit, thats 26.8k copper powder/min 160.8k copper ingots as well

holy lord i forgot just how crazy these numbers can get with nuclear pasta

[hard ivy]

134 is the max without sloops

And with free power

[quiet gust]

200 is very possible

it would use nearly all the silica though

quartz*

and like half the oil ( or 4100 sulfur with blender

and caterium

[ivory condor]

Ok assuming I slooped all of the copper powder to double it, 297/min nuclear pasta is the most i could make

Also now I have a interesting 18.8k coal/min byproduct

Wait the tools is messing up and just using coal for nothing as a byproduct

So I can just ignore that, because lord knows what its doing, its not even using it for anything how strange

[quiet gust]

its actually super possible to do 200 so max has to be so much higher

[ivory condor]

I'm at max 297/min as being possible, with copper powder production doubled via sloops

[hard ivy]

SF Optimizer says 🥁
204.109

[ivory condor]

Oh wait no that isn't possible either, you would run out of sloops as you would need 178 hmmm

[marble fractal]

I need valves

[quiet gust]

i feel thats not right

[wicked nacelle]

Why post if you won’t listen

[ivory condor]

Ok so what is the max slooped assemblers for the copper powder hmmm

[marble fractal]

I tried, I need valves

[hard ivy]

34 sloops in RSAM, 70 in copper powder

[quiet gust]

tthen try keeping waste water and fresh water seperate

[marble fractal]

That’s not possible tho

[quiet gust]

i forgot to acount for conversions

[quiet gust]

it is very possible

[wicked nacelle]

I gave you a screenshot of how to set it up. Twice

[slow kindle]

I just learned about water towers from the old dude on YouTube shorts and my life changed

[marble fractal]

That ahoewed literally nothing

[wicked nacelle]

It showed how to do the water.

[quiet gust]

real

[hard ivy]

for the worse, more like 🙃

[marble fractal]

No

[dense violet]

I can' show you exactly what to do, if you actually looked at #math-and-meta and posted what yo uhad

[quiet gust]

why

[marble fractal]

My pipes are mk2

[hard ivy]

I've seen more people have issues with towers than pumps

and pumps just work idk why'd you do a tower

[quiet gust]

tbh thats not surprising considering how unituitive pipes are

[dense violet]

water towers don't do anything that a pump doesn't do.

[wicked nacelle]

They just do it all at once which can be useful

[quiet gust]

they do simplify logistic a bit and can be very aesthetic

[slow kindle]

I mean he said in the video that any pipe that is below the water tower will not need a pump , can send the vid if needed
If that’s true it’s insanely helpful

[dense violet]

have fake ones , and creating tall loops is not simpler than putting on a pump

[dense violet]

until you do anything with that pump like use a machine.
and you shouldn't be having kilometer long pipes in the first place

[quiet gust]

it can be depending on how you're dealing with the pipe, and if you do it the way kibitz did

[dense violet]

'imkibitz' is ... not a role model for how to build in teh game

[slow kindle]

Oil pipes are insanely long

[quiet gust]

ik

[marble fractal]

I think I got it

[dense violet]

his pipe game is garbage

[quiet gust]

wait ur telling me waiting for 300 hours to uprgade to mk 6 belts isnt optimal

[dense violet]

1. they don't have to be.
2. you can just put pumps along them xD

[dense violet]

no idea, started ignoring him years ago after I saw his pipes

he's an entertainer. That's it

and... not a very entertaining one either

[wicked nacelle]

Actual people clearly disagree

[slow kindle]

ima be honest my last world power grid kept turning off because of the amount of pipes I was putting(to the point that it was too much for me to handle because of the frequent crashes and a lot of stuff nvm) so my pipe game is below garbage

[marble fractal]

I found a new issue

[quiet gust]

in his current playthrough he built a bunch of mk 5 belts pretending them to be mk6 bc he didnt want to upgrade to phase 5 till he was done with cubes, meaning he has to upgrade a bunch.

its clearly for content though

[quiet gust]

i like his building tbf

[dense violet]

keeping pipes simple is your first step. Having cross country pipes is the first thing to avoid

[dense violet]

eh, totalxclipse has much better architecture

[slow kindle]

Well in the grass fields map the crude oil is left and up(idk English directions) and it’s a really long pipe, how can you avoid that?

[quiet gust]

yeah use either packagers and belt highways ( if you wantthe kilometer long anything) or trains

[quiet gust]

fair

[wicked nacelle]

Ship petroleum products out by train

Burn and build plastic and rubber on site

[slow kindle]

Like on the oil place?

[dense violet]

build what you need to where you extract it

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah

[slow kindle]

And then use train to extract it?

[quiet gust]

i still like to watch him but he is much more infuriating to watch knowing his inefficiencies

[slow kindle]

That’s actually interesting wait

[dense violet]

or belt or truck or whatever

[wicked nacelle]

Yep

[slow kindle]

And what about electricity? Just use towers I figure?

[dense violet]

I've got enough all around me to be frustrating as it is >.>

[wicked nacelle]

Oil makes power. But yes

[dense violet]

or poles

[quiet gust]

trains transfer power

train lines i mean

[dense violet]

I mean, you need power for the extractors anyway right?

[slow kindle]

Thanks, will use that once this world reaches to that stage

The last world had me putting 5km of pipes and belts

[dense violet]

I mean 5k isn't hard, just in tons of short sections

this probably has at least a couple km pipes just in one spot https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1357870180679815258/big_r_2.png?ex=6893ef27&is=68929da7&hm=0fa5640a3d42d2e0da2ec52ca2ce506a529e1d6ae32d5bbdf369f0ba0bfc18ad&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[quiet gust]

im very sad i just changed a few maths and i need 4 more water per minute

[wicked nacelle]

Blueprints let you nearly double how long of belts/pipes you can put down per click too.

[hard ivy]

When you have a few hundred hours in the game, watching anyone play Satisfactory can be infuriating. Even experienced players definitely do things I wouldn't do

[wicked nacelle]

6 foundation of blueprint plus 6 foundation of auto connect

[quiet gust]

i mean i think lgio is pretty effecient ngl. /s

chat what do i automate next pure quartx or sulfuric acid?

[dense violet]

time efficient in any case

well apart from all the stuff made specifically for being noodly

[gilded goblet]

chat i'm getting closer and closer to actually having to automate my space elevator parts 🙁

[quiet gust]

set it up now

and just load it with already made items

the sonner the better bc its jsut a waiting game

[gilded goblet]

yea

[quiet gust]

you new guy, what do i automate next, sulfur or quartz

(The choice doesnt matter im just indecisive)

[gilded goblet]

both

[quiet gust]

1 or the other

[naive palm]

"What do I automate next?"
Yes.

[quiet gust]

im going to get to both but idk what i want on this floor

[naive palm]

More practically, the thing I automate next is often 'whatever is slowing me down from building factories' followed closely by 'whatever is needed to complete this phase'

[quiet gust]

these ar e both for the same factory

[naive palm]

magnificent. convergent instrumental goals

[quiet gust]

PICK ONE

[gilded goblet]

anyone know why my smart splitter isn't sending overflow to overflow? it's just sending them to the overflow side.

[quiet gust]

wym

[dense violet]

do you have 2 overflows?

[gilded goblet]

Nope

[naive palm]

Your question confuses and intrigues me.

[gilded goblet]

1 overflow

[dense violet]

you need to explain better then

[naive palm]

If you have a side set to overflow and overflow is going out of the overflow side..

[gilded goblet]

On my modular frame factory, I have a smart splitter at the end, set to center as any and the right as any (I need those to fill up, THEN send the extra modular frames to the overflow side. but it's ONLY sending to the overflow side.

It's not sending to the others first, and it's really weird.

[dense violet]

rebuild the belts that aren't working

[gilded goblet]

ah, i see what went wrong.

The conveyor got disconnected RIGHT at the edge of the splitter and I didn't see

[naive palm]

Happens to the best of us.

[gilded goblet]

yeee

[distant pulsar]

incredible

[gilded goblet]

glad I got it figured out before I ran out of M frames

[naive palm]

Get that a lot during factory remodelling and new factory design. A belt that looks connected but isn't.

[gilded goblet]

yea

it was like, RIGHT there

[dense violet]

that's why you don't put splitters directly on belts

[gilded goblet]

fair

[dense violet]

and if you do, completely rebuild all the connections

but also just dont 😛

[gilded goblet]

yea

I have my extra modular frames that aren't going anywhere or doing anything sinking

because since I have smart splitters theres no reason to not sink overflows

[slow kindle]

What’s the point after finishing space elevator? Never finished it so I’m just asking out of curiosity

[dense violet]

it's a sand box game

build what is interesting. The tiers are really just there to teach you the things

[slow kindle]

I see thanks

[gilded goblet]

Is there a reason to not sink overflow for like elevator parts and such? once you have enough?

[naive palm]

Arguably it's to ||save humanity||, but from a gameplay perspective Cobalt is right on.

[dense violet]

hopefuilly once you've done all the tech and unlocked everything you can pick some mechanics you find interesting and build a project around them 🙂 I kinda want to do 1600 hmf pm

[mortal dirge]

Start over in a new biome

[quiet gust]

scary

[dense violet]

specifically I want to do combos of recipes to do sushi load balancing into different sections of hte factory

[naive palm]

"My name is Cobalt. And this is my factory"
uproarious laughter
"This building produces one tousand six hundread heavy modular frames per minute. It costs ficsit one hundred tickets to run this factory for 12 seconds"

[quiet gust]

is there a way you can incvorperate aluminum beams or rods 🙂

[dense violet]

If I make a video about it I'll use this as the intro 😛

[dense violet]

... look... I'm not a huge fan of that recipe 😛 and I like making coke steel , using plastic for plates and using the steel for steel screws 😛

[quiet gust]

awwww....

ilove how silly it is and how you can make solid aluminum rotors

(1.19 buaxite per rotor)

[dense violet]

I could be tempted to make aluminium steel beams? but... no

[quiet gust]

tbh thats the only use i see in that recipe

[dense violet]

it's dumb

I mean, I'm not going to 😛 but it's tempting

[quiet gust]

you, cat, am i making pure quartz nect or sulfuric acid

pick one

[dense violet]

what's the acid for<

[quiet gust]

leached iron and (BARF) leached copper

[dense violet]

.... quartz then. The leached recipes are... a choice

[quiet gust]

( i need to use all alts)

[dense violet]

I assume so that people could directly sink acid byproduct

[quiet gust]

i mean tbf leached iron is sligghlty better than pure iron and leached caterium is like 33% better than pure copper, but leached copper is just worse

[abstract heron]

WHAT @unborn gyro

[dense violet]

the cost of sulfur is just ... awful.

[abstract heron]

i am making 8100 rubber plant

[quiet gust]

its not much tbh

[abstract heron]

but i am on summer holidays due to the heat

[quiet gust]

i only use 412ish sulfur for this factory

[dense violet]

leached iron maybe, leached copper is very pricey

[quiet gust]

( im only making 160 ingots with it)

[dense violet]

I mean fair, but Alloy my beloved

[quiet gust]

for copper

this is the only place im using leached and again, i have to usea ll alts at relative scale

[slate python]

What

[quiet gust]

im making 3.7k iron ingots

which only uses 371 sulfur

and 38 machines

i just now am realising the number are just continious x10 ing

[ivory condor]

We reached a record breaking 119 degrees where I live, just this Tuesday infact

48 actually

[quiet gust]

This is why Fahrenheit is superior (just for air temps though which makes sense as that's what it was made for)

[ivory condor]

South East in my case, this is Florida

Aka welcome to 119 degrees

[quiet gust]

Oh my wet bulb temp

[marble fractal]

Do drones have infinite range?

[dense violet]

basically

[quiet gust]

If you use batteries turbo fuel nuclear rods or packaged ionized fuel

[ivory condor]

Hell no i hate this heat wave, its the worst

Might be time to go to a colder climate

Thats a little far😅

[buoyant vapor]

just you wait and see
#screenshots message

[ivory condor]

Well lol

Idk i dont know anybody there so it would be awkward to

Im going to look into turning the game into hardcore

[slate python]

What is this #screenshots message

[dense violet]

an image of a train station?

fog?
ramp?
cliff?

[slate python]

Look at how many hours

#screenshots message

[dense violet]

thats not a weird number of hours

[slate python]

That’s not a lot

1,000 hours

What!

I have 3-4 hours

Wow

[dense violet]

only 3500, but I haven't played much in the last 2 years

just finished the tiers after 1.0

[slate python]

No no no 4 hours just 4

Oh you have 4,000 hours

Wowowow

[dense violet]

oof. got off the wow train years ago

[cosmic laurel]

whats a visually nice way to build trains up to scale cliffs/veritcals, i got some blueprints off the bp web that are spirals, which do the job but visually i hate them and hurt my eyes when riding manually xd

[wicked nacelle]

that's what I do - a helix

usually the alternative is to find the slow way up and follow the ground. but that can be a very long way around

I wish they'd make a trainevator 🙂

you could make longer switchbacks... like a helix but if you squished it up against the wall but still fundamentally the same thing -- you need distance to get height

someone once suggested having one train drop off their stuff then use lifts and have another train at the top pick it up.

[quiet gust]

what exactly are spline (other than the things conveyors follow)

[slate python]

What

[harsh thorn]

bro can some one gift me satisfactoy

[dense violet]

no begging in server

[harsh thorn]

ok

bye

im still here

[quiet gust]

no

[slate python]

When do you unlock nuclear

[blazing bane]

[dense violet]

no idea what you be shoulding, but sure

[quiet gust]

t8

[slate python]

Oh ok

[dense violet]

eh, they seem to be stopping

[quiet gust]

oh thaT, only if he keeps it up

[quiet gust]

maybe t7 but you unlock things to process waste at t8 then further at t9

i figured

[sullen fjord]

Hey everyone! I had a weird glitch where I died and lost everything in my inventory, which wouldn't matter except that I had 100 power cells in there. Is there a way to give them back to myself or something or am I just cooked

[dense violet]

reload
or look for your death crate

[quiet gust]

all ican say is

WOW

[blazing bane]

Its all in t8, only thing in 7 is the hazmat suit

[sullen fjord]

so im cooked. thanks lol

[quiet gust]

my memory fades me, it was t7 at one point, i dont rememebr ifi it was t7 in u4 tho

[dense violet]

you don't have previous saves?

[quiet gust]

besides i go by phases anyways

[sullen fjord]

I do but it was from like 4 hours ago and ughhh basically I died while falling out of bounds and didn't respawn for like 5 minutes, there's no autosaves or anything

[blazing bane]

There should be a crate where you died with all those items in it

[sullen fjord]

i wish there was

[dense violet]

no marker on your map? or have you died again since?

[quiet gust]

if u died out of bounds doesnt it move to the nearest closest location

[sullen fjord]

yeah that's what it's done before but i'm guessing since i died so far from the surface (my body was falling for a couple minutes) that it just didn't know where to load the crate?

[quiet gust]

then just check scim

[dense violet]

it should leave a marker on the map

so you can either use a save editor

or just wait till later tiers when you can craft more shards

100 shards isn't much, especially when you can sloop slugs and make them later

[blazing bane]

||I am the void||

[sullen fjord]

scim?

[quiet gust]

google satisfactory calculator

close ur game (save it first))

yeah

[sullen fjord]

omg you can make slugs later? if so idc, just got to tier 7/8 so i'll be there soon i guess?

[quiet gust]

t9

[dense violet]

pretty soon.

there's also up to like 5000 'natural' shards on the map

[quiet gust]

ye

[sullen fjord]

alright cool i just figured if they're a finite resource 100 lost would kinda suck

[blazing bane]

They are, they’re just a big finite lol

[quiet gust]

if thata the only thing u lost u might not wanna bother

[dense violet]

no stress 🙂

[sullen fjord]

i will check out scim or save editors too tho thanks!

[quiet gust]

(scim is the save editor)

go the interactive map and upload ur most recent file

Backup first tho

[sullen fjord]

bet thank uuu

[dense violet]

I'd just plow forward, you're not far off from making them. And if you sloopa few slugs into shards you'll get tons , up to you though 🙂

[spark sky]

The newest version of my Lizzard Doggo kennel: #screenshots message

A pet machine?

Hm. Well, how about a machine to automate gathering the stuff they "find"?

They don't?

When did that change?

[quiet gust]

you can now process uranium waste intoo a fuel that makes no waste

plutoninum i mean sorry

[dawn vessel]

uhh i have absolutely no idea why, but there is an exact point in one of my belts that if i go through, the game crashes

lol

[quiet gust]

i mean you can process plutonium into a fuel that has no waste ( i didnt wanna spoil ficsonium)

[dawn vessel]

and after afking in the belt, it doesn't, this is insane

[spark sky]

I know that you can process nuclear waste, but no one mentioned in any of the videos that you don't get it from the doggos any more. I put in the belts and storage containers to have access to get rid of any nuclear waste they "found" before I died from the radiation.

[quiet gust]

oh

i didnt even know those existed

literally i just one day a few days after 1.0 came out saw it had released and was like, oh finally

cause last time i played before was u4

[spark sky]

If they're not needed, well, they're there anyway, I guess I could use them to dump the stuff into some general storage to sort later.

At any rate, the main thing, to me, is that the doggos seem content to stay, don't seem to fall through the floor, don't seem to try to climb the walls to try to get out.

And, now it looks a bit nicer, with the roof.

Anyway, I got a blueprint, so now I can build it in any game I start.

@unborn gyro Have you done anything with geothermal?

Right now all I'm running on (fairly early in this playthrough) is a few geothermal power plants and some power storage, with 9 biofuel burners for backup. I'm in the process of designing a coal power plant that stacks 3 coal power plants on top of each other. Unfortunately, it can't be built in any of the blueprint designers, the plants are too tall, so I just made a blueprint of the floor layout with markers to show where the corners of the coal power plants go.

This is the coal powerplant design: #screenshots message

[dense violet]

what is even being talked about?

.... what about it that depends on 'knowing alt recipes' ? xD

I mean you can finish on bioburners if you really want

sloop the biofuel producers 😛

[spark sky]

I suppose, it would take a long time, though, wouldn't it?

[dense violet]

severely under clock the power hungry machines and build more of them

[dense violet]

you can, if you want, make uranium rods from Hog Meat. And power your system like that

made entirely from hog meat and SAM

[thin compass]

I have a question. So for trains if you are to use path and block signals for a junction, how do you eliminate the issue of the end of the block from affecting the track past the junction?

[spark sky]

That's crazy.

[dense violet]

it doesn't even take much hog per min to make a good uranium system

[spark sky]

Right now I'm using the two bio burners on the HUB to power manufacture of solid biofuel for the 9 bio burners, but they are not providing power, don't need it with the geothermal plus 6 power storage. In the mentime, I have a place staked out to build a coal power plant, that's why I was trying to design one that stacked the power plants, to make it more compact. Hm, I just thought of something. I need to check if there's a waterfall nearby.

(Water head with no pumps needed would be nice.)

[sullen fjord]

editing my save with scim doesnt disable achievements or anything, right? unless i enabled advanced options

[dense violet]

it doesnt

[sullen fjord]

so glad i found that tho

yay!

the game cheated me firsttt

[boreal vortex]

anyone want to start a new world? (not having any luck in the looking for group tab)

[spark sky]

Well, my plan is not to build anything like Let's Game it Out (though I know sometimes it can look like you are heading that direction).

[boreal vortex]

facts

[spark sky]

I think this doggo kennel is my first attempt at a really aesthetic building.

[wicked nacelle]

that doesn't mean you post where it's offtopic. it means no

[spark sky]

I'm sure I can do more, but I can't add much to the ends, can't build out any further in those directions. As for the tickets, I've bought all the building recipes in the Awesome Shop (did the Somerslooped animal parts -> animal protien -> DNA -> The Awesome Sink thing). All that's left to get are the trophies on the first page. I don't think wasting tickets on parts or resources is a good idea. That just leaves more boomboxes to get.

Though, I do want to get the doggo statue to put in my doggo kennel.

[wicked nacelle]

some people complain about how tall refineries are but I like to build around their smoke stacks or starstep up them. I think they're interesting

[spark sky]

I'm sure there are creative ways to build around taller structures. I built a floor that has holes in it for the tops of my miners at my starting base.

Some people, I guess, are vertically challenged when it comes to building.

[pure robin]

is there a guide on trains anywhere?

[errant girder]

on youtube a couple of guys go pretty indepth with the trains

do you want me to send you a link for them

[pure robin]

yeah sure!

[wicked nacelle]

do you have specific questions or just in general how do they work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGw8ngs--7o that's the one I think most people recommend

though a few changes came out in 1.1 -- just QOL things but also some new bugs

[pure robin]

in general how they work, specifically stuff like junctions and switches for multiple trains at once

i'll watch the vid you sent, thanks

[wicked nacelle]

Be warned if you find a bug where the signal says "signal loops back on itself" and the track color doesn't change before/after the signal -- that's a bug. You have to move the signal back from the merge/split a little

[spark sky]

I noticed that the containers and industrial containers no longer make legs. I don't know how I made the original ones I built end up off the floor, but they made legs. Now with vertical nudging, no legs are made, I have to figure out how to make my own.

[ivory condor]

Oh god that. I swear if I get that again I'm going to cast it into the darkest depths of the shadow realm that it came from

[wicked nacelle]

If you build rail you will. But at least it happens right away and once it's right it stays right

[ivory condor]

That is literally the worst signal error I have ever gotten and has caused I can't count how much frustration at this point

[wicked nacelle]

there's another bug where it forgets that a split is a split -- or that a 3 way split isn't a 2 way split. that one is way more insidious

you have to get in an engine and manually toggle the direction to see if it gives you left/right/straight or just left/right

and the game logic says the station is reachable... yet the train can't get to it

[ivory condor]

I'm going to give train signals some much deserved banelings just thinking about some of this

[wicked nacelle]

imagine a mode where there are hazards that kill you like gettin ghit by trains/drones/particle accelerator plasma

I would have just gotten sliced in half by a low flying drone

[ivory condor]

I remember when I did a modification to a existing rail and despite the signals being at the correct place, "signal loops back on itself" and I'm like what unholy abomination is being created here

[wicked nacelle]

yeah until you know about the bug it's BRUTAL trying to figure it out because you assume the game isn't lying to you

we're talking about a game bug

[ivory condor]

I had to keep rebuilding it all until eventually it somehow worked, and signals were still at the same spot

[wicked nacelle]

it's not like "get gud" kinda stuff

[ivory condor]

I just love the "rebuild rails and pray it works approach"

[wicked nacelle]

nice

[ivory condor]

Oh I knew the game was lying, because I was literally putting the signals at the same spot, what truly was killing was figuring out how to fix whatever cursed thing was happening

And even now I don't understand how it all eventually works, so it still kills me....

Why thats the worst, because I don't know what strategy you can do to avoid it either....

[wicked nacelle]

@ivory condor what's your mod again? skylines something? someone was throwing a hissy fit earlier today about water extractors

[stiff ibex]

just hit a terawatt finally

a step of many

[wicked nacelle]

I used to have that but had to cut back to get nitrogen and sloops

[stiff ibex]

yea im gonna go back down to like 300k while im rebuilding a lot of my old power plants

i used a lot of incorrect recipe choices for my nuclear and rf

[wicked nacelle]

Without augmenter you lose a LOT of power at those numbers

[ivory condor]

factory skyline why?

[wicked nacelle]

cuz it can instance water extractors

[stiff ibex]

i have 9 augs down and 6 of them are matrixed

but those are going to go down soon too

[wicked nacelle]

well then that's not as impressive 😛

[ivory condor]

correct, what about it?

[stiff ibex]

the matrices themselves are harder to make than the power imo

[wicked nacelle]

I just wanted to re-remember the name so I could tell him next time

[ivory condor]

oh ok

But yes vanilla bps cant do water extractors, that was one of the only mods that can

[stiff ibex]

most of rocket fuel is just spamming refineries

[spark sky]

This is what I mean about legs on the containers, they don't seem to appear any more (and I don't know how I made this in the first place). #screenshots message

[ivory condor]

you can also build water extractors basically though anywhere because of how it works

Also you can build ore miners, etc anywhere and have ores everywhere, so thats fun to

There is some what might be considered game breaking functionality with that mod....

because it basically will copy and place and not really care about the games established rules

[wicked nacelle]

oh hahahah resin. forgot about resin waste

[ivory condor]

only limitations are what the game outright won't allow for some reason

[stiff ibex]

try using the big beam supports, i feel like they might look good there

actually the normal beam supports work better

[spark sky]

I ended up using conveyor supports, they are a bit smaller but look nice.

And you can walk between them, you can't walk between the legs in that screenshot.

[rugged flare]

got a quick train questions for y'all. if a freight platform is set to unload, will a car that stops at it always unload, even if there's nothing in the timetable for that specific train?

[ivory condor]

I think it still has some bugs that need to be fixed, for example copying extractors, those for the resource wells, that causes the game to crash

I remember trying to place the extractor on foundation and it worked, but then I tried giving it power because I wanted to see what would happen, game didn't like it, followed by the crash

[wicked nacelle]

I'm rebuilding a 2700 oil processing facility... 48 HOR refineries... just forgot to handle the resin. It's 1800/m

I prefer carriers

[stiff ibex]

you gonna turn it into plastic?

[wicked nacelle]

rubber is 2x resin efficient vs plastic for some reason -- so rubber

because they both have the same fuel cost in recycled recipe

[stiff ibex]

true but I think rubber is less needed overall

at least for what I do

i hardly use rubber

[wicked nacelle]

dunno how far you are in the game but for most people that shoots way up after a plastic heavy start (of oil time)

my use is basically 50/50

[soft ore]

drones deserve more love ❤️

[stiff ibex]

im 650 hours in, i just dont go for points/parts

[winter island]

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[dense violet]

yes

[ivory condor]

[wicked nacelle]

Wait, no.

if the timetable says to "unload none" it will not unload

@rugged flare ^^^

[rugged flare]

yeah I think that's the issue, we have nothing at all in the timetable for unload

[wicked nacelle]

the default is "unload anything"

[ivory condor]

Don't worry we get banned together

[rugged flare]

thanks y'all! (I did some searching in the questions-and-help channel AFTER asking instead of before...)

[dense violet]

I don't have access?

I don't see why talking about fabrid and coke would start a ticket?

[ivory condor]

Don't worry if we both get banned we can find another server that isn't so lame

[dense violet]

did you guys go on some sort of racist tirade I missed or something?

[ivory condor]

I would really be hated than loved. I have accepted my fate

[dense violet]

you'd be entertained on the Stellaris server. Can't even say the word 'soviet'

[neon cloak]

oh

[ivory condor]

Does saying that get you instant banned

[neon cloak]

probably time out

[dense violet]

just bot stomped , warning you off

it's really dumb

[ivory condor]

sounds like a server I would probably get banned very soon on

[neon cloak]

Satisfactory is making me question a lot of simple things

[dense violet]

the words 'damn' and 'hell' were forced white listed when they added in gbame civics that had those words in it xD

[neon cloak]

"how much should i produce and what should i produce?" 😭

i've just built 6 iron smelters and i feel lost

[dense violet]

pick a milestone and go. Treat the tiers like a tutorial.

don't think about it so hard

[ivory condor]

sounds great XD

[neon cloak]

i can't imagine playing in those times

[ivory condor]

I forgot when I began. I remember not having conveyor lifts when I started playing and having to make spiral belts

That was a fun time having to make those spiral things to send materials to upper floors

[neon cloak]

maybe i should've painted the floor

after how much time should i try multiplayer? (forgot it exists)

i doubt thousand will be enough with my pace

[ivory condor]

It's ok I don't have friends

[neon cloak]

you can play Satisfactory while watching vtubers picture-in-picture

Bladerunner 2049 experience

FICSIT style

is it StarCraft 2 thing ?

i'm not knowledgeable about it except few facts and some story of it irl

[ivory condor]

dont hate me but i never actually watched it

[neon cloak]

i liked both movies

can't remember most of the stuff that happened in them tho

i've seen things you people wouldn't believe

all those screws will be lost in time like tears in rain

i hate producing screws (doing constructors right now)
i need to get steel for it to go faster

[steady glade]

try to hold on with cast screws until you get other alts that dont need screws

[dense violet]

or alts that use tons of screws. Bolted Plate + Frame ❤️

[neon cloak]

how to talk circles to you

[ivory condor]

tons of screws, but my belts are already fully saturated with screws

[dense violet]

do you want to make circular factories? 😄

[neon cloak]

ehhhhh

seems aesthetically pleasing but hell nah

[dense violet]

it's fun 😄

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1318079364377743471/image.png?ex=68943211&is=6892e091&hm=dccaee32eb8af6d12b2e8ca517629d35224ae7eb1bb2d72a6cdcdf256cb3d560&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1715&height=1114

[ivory condor]

i cant imagine how you got all of that into such a perfect shape

[dense violet]

Mods mostly. Having multilayered circles with machines on those curves? you basically need a mod or 100,000hrs

and I dont have 100k hours to spend on the game

[stiff ibex]

oh so youre cheating

[neon cloak]

11.407946 Years

[ivory condor]

I knew it

[neon cloak]

unemployed glorps will look at glorious FICSIT employees and say that it was taken in the creative

[dense violet]

using mods as placement skeletons yeah.

if you look at the outer curves here? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/553550313533997057/1080465352288370719/labled_1.png?ex=6893f206&is=6892a086&hm=ddbcd34ac0ddf69e86955524ad67e608326eefbaf3e253f3ee701e9ba1bb6843&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

place those as a skeleton and then build on top

but using hte mod for the skeleton is pretty critical

[stiff ibex]

cheating isnt ok...

[neon cloak]

ye

[soft ore]

wait people use mods

[stiff ibex]

truth nuke

[neon cloak]

takes all the fun, gives all the time

[neon cloak]

where does truth nuke waste come to?

[soft ore]

has to be processed into ficsonium have fun

[dense violet]

they just store it in their butt

[soft ore]

I hate ficsonium…

[dense violet]

dont' make plu waste then

[neon cloak]

i hate talks about the future

[stiff ibex]

ficsonium is literally the best power source

[soft ore]

Also after two months my city project is almost complete! I can probably finish it tommorow

[neon cloak]

im afraid of the endgame with all the fibers of my body

[stiff ibex]

its so cheap and easy to make and for so much power

[soft ore]

😭

[stiff ibex]

me when i lie my ass off

[soft ore]

yeah guys let’s all do ficsonium!!

It will be fun guys!!!!

[neon cloak]

usually there is irl substance name instead of ficsonium in such sentences 🕵🏿‍♂️

[soft ore]

I snort sam

[neon cloak]

i think i've watched 1 video on nuclear waste and all the power shit

you can sell some nuclear waste in the shop or.....

[soft ore]

I’ve done ficsonium once on my first 1.0 playthrough and it was really really… really bad.

[neon cloak]

↪️ ⏬ ➡️

[stiff ibex]

its legitimately better to just store plutonium waste 2 km in the sky forever than it is to process it

[soft ore]

Never again

[neon cloak]

another round of getting over it

[neon cloak]

-# somehow i, khm, said the name

[soft ore]

I remember making a tower just an entire gigantic tower that had like thousands of storage containers inside

now I just sink the rods like a normal person

[neon cloak]

like an irl person

[stiff ibex]

yeah but storage is so easy

i have enough storage to last me playing for a year straight

[soft ore]

my pea brain doesn’t like that :(

I would do ficsonium again but there isn’t enough sam ore in the entire world to make what I wanna make :p

[stiff ibex]

If i wanna get my max power goal i gotta do permanent storage anyway

the max clean power you can do is about 15 TW

[soft ore]

Cuz I also need to reserve some for the second part of my space elevator city

[soft ore]

Yummy

[pure robin]

so, this is a while later, but how does he have his paths turn so smoothly? i'll send what i mean in screenshots

is it just barriers placed onto the rails? there seems to be something underneath, but unless he's using a mod to make platforms turn seamlessly, idk what it is

[wicked nacelle]

you can do smooth turns with lots and lots of foundations and using beams to make arbitrary corners I think . but that's not really my thing to make it that pretty 🙂

I'm guessing you make a bit of that in a blueprint and then instance it so you're not constnatly playing beam games

there are lots of videos out there about that and lots of tricks

[limpid cairn]

why is aluminium shit so annoying to deal with

why can i only use 4 refineries with a pure bauxite node thats oc to 200%

😭

[last jackal]

The dozen other bauxite nodes on the map: We exist lmao.

[limpid cairn]

i actually found only 3 nodes with the scan

[boreal musk]

use radar tower

[boreal musk]

those are curved foundation

rail tracks curve nicely with curved foundations

and yes, you can do it in vanilla

[wicked nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPdYsM0pAfs curve tutorial

[pure robin]

oo this is great thanks

[wicked nacelle]

🙂

that's the same guy as the train right? Probably peruse all his vids. They're good

[little sonnet]

are all the awesome sinks linked? can i grab tickets from any one of them if i have more than one

[blazing bane]

Yup

[little sonnet]

okay cool thanks

[wicked nacelle]

So are the shops and the mams

And coupons go into dimensional depot up to 2500

[limpid cairn]

guys when yall are building mani folds for screws or something else that is getting producest in mass do you use 2 conveyor lines in the middle or only 1?

[wicked nacelle]

don't put screws on belts, put iron ingots. Then make the screws right where they will be used

[ivory condor]

Ideally I use alts to remove screws

[wicked nacelle]

if you get cast screws alt recipe it gets even easier. or look for something like the plate alt that takes wire instead -- and put ingots on the belt and make wire right where you need it

stitched plate ^^

[ivory condor]

Sure you can use mk6 belts to move screws, but the amount you need gets crazy fast

Aka its easy to fully saturate even mk6 belts

[limpid cairn]

same

but theres barely anything good for rotors

[wicked nacelle]

a belt of iron ingots is 4x denser than a belt of screws - in that it can make 4 belts worth of screws

[ivory condor]

Steel rotors

Wire and pipes, much lower amounts needed to

[limpid cairn]

true

[frail sleet]

there is not really any time where it's ever appropriate to manifold screws

furthermore, that's kind of the point of screws

[winged walrus]

Rubber RIPs arr cool

They don't need screws

[ivory condor]

I would in this case go with recipes to remove screws, its to easy to fully saturate belts with them

Only downside is sometimes you lose resource efficiency, but to get rid of screws i would consider a acceptable trade off

[winged walrus]

People who hate screws are just bad at this game

[limpid cairn]

i need to be shot down i just realised i have steel rotors after completing my rotor factory 😭

[winged walrus]

Automating screws for something else is a fun challenge

[ivory condor]

That's a hot take

Apu there is no wrong way. Will that stop me from treating screws like a plaque that most be removed, no chance

[limpid cairn]

pretty funny that theres a discussion every day about screws

and someone is always saying that people who cant automate them are bad at the game

[ivory condor]

I think its because people try to manifold screws, which won't end good

[winged walrus]

I think that always me

[winged walrus]

What is wrong

[ivory condor]

Better question what isnt wrong with trying to do that

[limpid cairn]

currently mine is working somehow...

[vague sparrow]

I am going to be using steel screws somewhere along the way, I'm sure it will be fine

I probably need alot

[limpid cairn]

everything

[ivory condor]

Is it holding onto a prayer by chance via mk6 belts?

[limpid cairn]

no

i found out that its working

1 half is giving out to much screws while the other half is giving out 0 screws

[ivory condor]

Oh production issue, my issue is easily exceeding belt capacity

[limpid cairn]

😭

well at least it works somehow

[vague sparrow]

Having to split up because 1x mnk6 is not enough 😛

[limpid cairn]

im never touching it again

[sterile blade]

To piss people off

[ivory condor]

Have you tried making copper rotor production lines work with manifolds, even with mk6 belts 6 assemblers is to much because it exceeds 1200, because it needs so many screws indeed

[limpid cairn]

ill never make that

[ivory condor]

So even for small production line, manifolds just dont work even with mk6 belts...

[limpid cairn]

i only saw 52 screws per craft and was like, no thank you

[ivory condor]

Good i wouldn't recommend it, the amount of screws you need is crazy

It can work sure, but not with manifolds

[wicked nacelle]

that's why you don't put screws on belts you put ingots on belts

[vague sparrow]

phew I only need 8 copper rotor machines

for now

[wicked nacelle]

because ingots are 4 times denser on the belt for making screws

[vague sparrow]

I might just stick the screw constructor in front of the machine

[sterile blade]

Tsk. I bet you guys don't even manifold your Coal Diamonds Accelerators

[wicked nacelle]

1:1 is a manifold

[sterile blade]

No, that's clearly a balancer

[ivory condor]

Yep, and put screws basically directly into the machine, only way it can work

[wicked nacelle]

or ever few machines, whatever design works best in the space you have. If you find your belts can support 4 machines worth of screws you can build screws ever four machines

[ivory condor]

Personally I would just get rid of screws, mostly to simplify designs, but that's personal preference, that or direct inserting screws into machines works

[wicked nacelle]

wire has the same problem. quickwire DEF has the same problem

I'm not saying don't get rid of screws but the approach of modularizing high volume production is valuable regardless

[sterile blade]

I always say that 500-stackers all brinf throughput issues (Concrete being a bit of an exception). They don't stack at 500 for no reason ^^

[vague sparrow]

smh in 14 wet concrete refineries

[wicked nacelle]

plutonium waste is a different kind of 500-stacker problem 🙂

[wicked nacelle]

save some water for the fishes

[sterile blade]

Wire, quickwire, Aluminum Scraps... All I read is Screws MK2 to 4

[sterile blade]

Right, I forgot Wastes stack in 500 too xD

Has been smashed by the

[dense violet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--9kqhzQ-8Q

[vague sparrow]

#screenshots message

[wicked nacelle]

I'm sure the appreciate that

[sterile blade]

The lake-shark will come back to life to appreciate that

[dense violet]

gapry?

[wild kindle]

is there a way to use tower towers instead of a mark 1 power pole as default? anytime i try hooking a cable up to a power tower it just puts it to a power pole

nvm i fixed it

[boreal musk]

power tower connection are on the top, while the bottom is used for regular power poles

[wild kindle]

are there any better versions of power towers late game?

[reef basin]

No

[minor rock]

we need powerlink TM

[wild kindle]

they should lowkey make a power tower with 1000 cable for 2 copper wire

[dense violet]

that does what?

[vague sparrow]

I think it's called a railway network

[finite garnet]

You all have a great day! Bye ❤️

[hard dirge]

Any concert word on a release date for console edition

[minor rock]

wah;

[dense violet]

#announcements

anything that is known will be there

[marsh otter]

any other planners then the satisfactory production planner?

any programms?

[dense violet]

never heard of 'production planner'

I like tools. Got the best UI https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[vague sparrow]

Also satisfactory modeler free software on Steam

[reef basin]

that's not as much as a production planner, as it is logistical planner

[marsh otter]

ty

[vague sparrow]

well logistics and production go hand in hand tho right

[reef basin]

imo not really. Production is planned first, logistics afterwards

[vague sparrow]

I see your point, they still tie together tho

[reef basin]

yeah but imo modeller is more useful for the second part, so you still need a production planner before

[vague sparrow]

Fair enough

I tend to make stuff in the modeler and still do the math myself in-game😅

[void cliff]

Anyone have any good guides on using sushi belts effectively? Sushi belts look too cool.

[reef basin]

by sushi belt you mean actual sushi belt (random mix of resources, possibly in a loop, machines take from it and put back products), or mixed belt feeding (specifically crafted mix of resources to exactly feed group of machines)?

[sterile blade]

Nah. It barely considers logistics. Hell, it doesn't even allow to mix stuff inside containers

[sterile blade]

Sure, try clarifying your doubts and use cases (#satisfactory message) and you'll get tons of suggestions ^^

[topaz lava]

How we feel about controller support? Any tips on making it better with the settings?

[ivory condor]

Guess these aren't sushi enjoyers

[vague sparrow]

I like my sushi in the restaurant, not on my belt

[dense violet]

Sushi belts are great

[shy mulch]

I prefer it in my mouth

[slow kindle]

How do I make the foundation look like a concrete white thing? Can send a pic if you want I just saw it in a YouTube vid

[fluid sapphire]

awesome shop

[boreal musk]

super white color, just add extra 0 on the value

[fluid sapphire]

if you mean just the concrete texture as opposed to the regular metallic sort of foundation

[hard ivy]

I recently realised you can do sushi feeding without sinks now

[minor rock]

i forgot foundations were metalic lol

i was very confused by the question

[winged walrus]

what is the sushi feeding??

[slow kindle]

oh i see the convcrete foundation 1

3 tickets kinda cheap

[boreal musk]

multiple item type in one conveyor belt line

[minor rock]

concrete is cheap and looks better tbh

[hard ivy]

Belt with mixed items goes into a manifold

[winged walrus]

oh

items will just clog

[hard ivy]

Not if you do it right

[boreal musk]

not if you feed at exact rate

[winged walrus]

hmm

[hard ivy]

That or smart splitters

[winged walrus]

using priority merger?

[hard ivy]

Yeah, you loop back the excess, sort it out, and priority merge with the supply lines.

And you don't need a sink, nor are you wasting items

[slow kindle]

Is there a way to set the concrete foundataion as the default ?

[winged walrus]

turbofuel ammo has a crosshair wow

that's an amazing ammo, i gonna make some black ammo now

[fluid sapphire]

map them onto your hot bar, thats the best option afaik

you can just sample what you already have built

[slow kindle]

there isn’t any way to just make it my default?

[fluid sapphire]

not that i know of

[slow kindle]

So like everytime I build its concrete

[boreal musk]

set the filter to concrete foundation instead of ficsit metal

[cursive crane]

If you are able to use sushi belts, your factory isnt big enough unless your belt capacity is maxed out lmao

[fluid sapphire]

that works, for the builder menu, yes

but not for the search bar, which is what i mostly use

[slow kindle]

Where’s that?

[boreal musk]

i never use the search bar in build menu, legit never

[fluid sapphire]

its the build menu, press Q

there are filters at top right of every section

[boreal musk]

top right on the foundation tab in build gun Q

[slow kindle]

Oh it works!
@fluid sapphire It does work on the hotbar for me aswell

[fluid sapphire]

well, i kind of have to open the builder menu a lot because of the filtering thing, but i try to use the search bar as much as possible

i just find it more convenient, mostly

[slow kindle]

Yeah

Do you by any chance know how I can choose belts from a "wheel" like you choose the scaning items? just saw it in a youtube video aswell 🤣

[boreal musk]

i find the 10 layers of 10 hotbars more convenient

pretty much can fit anything you need there

[hard ivy]

Not just belts

[slow kindle]

Other things too? How do i access that

[hard ivy]

Hold E

[fluid sapphire]

already all full of stuff, i could use 20 hotbars

[slow kindle]

Thank you

[hard ivy]

You can also tap E to switch to the next one

[slow kindle]

damn

thanks

[vague sparrow]

anyone else having blueprint be invisible sometimes?

[hard ivy]

And you can hold R to get a wheel of build modes (pipes, belts, etc)

You don't have to tap R to switch 1 by 1

[slow kindle]

QOL tips right there

[slow kindle]

Theres only 3 so it doesnt really take time, def smth i'll remember

[hard ivy]

The E thing works with BPs too - switches between BPs in the same subcategory

Really useful for compressing hotbar space. I only have conveyor poles on it, but can access stackable poles, floor holes, etc quickly

And for that reason, I don't buy clean pipes 😆

They get added to the rotation

And I use it to switch between pipe tiers

[slow kindle]

oh that makes it uncomfy

[fluid sapphire]

guess i should use my hotbar space more wisely hehehh

[wooden tide]

Is it worth it to farm a jetpack hog lol ? 1/1000 seems a bit low ... Is there a method to find one ? Or to farm lot of hogs ?

[hard ivy]

1 in 1000 on an alpha hog spawn

[fluid sapphire]

chances are you will just unlock it quicker than trying to find the hog

[wooden tide]

Ok 🥲 Can't wait to have freedom of movement

[hard ivy]

Best bet would be to find a group of spawners (NOT a group spawner) and farm that but idk if that exists

[slow kindle]

building the first concrete mini project ever

[vague sparrow]

there's a cave tha thas blade runners on the west coast

you can get those first thing into a new game long before you unlock them

doggo cave I think it's called

[hard ivy]

Unless you spawn in the rocky desert or grasslands, it's probably faster to make those

[vague sparrow]

Probably, just a suggestion

[hard ivy]

Especially because if you rush them immediately, you won't even have anything to build up with

[vague sparrow]

It's a bit of a jumping puzzle

Just discovered invisible blueprint is probably imminent game crash lol, all I did was place some barriers with signs in them 😭