satisfactory

[still glen]

thx pookies

[hollow hazel]

🎵 Alternates! Gotta unlock them all!

[frozen cloud]

wet concrete

[steady glade]

concrete is the most useful if you dont have its other alts

[woeful ocean]

how do i open console? ~ doesnt work

[hard ivy]

they heal you to full fyi

[hollow hazel]

Why must we conform to the Empire's will? 😫

Oh? 🤔

Could've sworn it was in the keybinding options... or it just so happened that keycode ~ is "always" the top-left key.

[woeful ocean]

i did but still doesnt work, i have the key ~ on my german layout keyboard but switching to US layout doesnt work

[lime ermine]

Guys I'm in my second playthrough and my first hard drive gave me the choice of wet concrete or stitched plates

I love both

[hard ivy]

get more drives then

[lime ermine]

Yeah lol

Just funny I get my two favorites in one try

[hard ivy]

but stitched plates are useful earlier

[hard oasis]

who on earth put "elevADA" into this game

[hard ivy]

especially because when you buy a different layout, you might end up with ISO, which sucks

[reef basin]

developers?

[hard oasis]

who came up with it

[reef basin]

nobody knows

[hollow hazel]

who came up with ADA's snark to begin with? 😄

[hard oasis]

how many times do you need to use the elevator for it to show up?

[woeful ocean]

i figured it out, i pressed a bunch of buttons until something opened it. it was f6 for some reason.

[hollow hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/avgn-angry-video-game-nerd-what-were-they-thinking-what-are-they-thinking-confused-gif-17417919

[hard oasis]

i put smelters onto one of the factory floors and i have no idea what one

[slate python]

What are inhalers used for

[hollow hazel]

Health!

[reef basin]

inhaling

[hollow hazel]

Now we just need conADActor at the train stations to announce when a train is arriving.

[hard ivy]

I collect way too many consumables so I only use inhalers for health

even if I'm at like 70% HP

[quiet gust]

i think i made 11 inhalers thi save, used them all then never made more lmao

who neefds heal when you have gun

[visual cradle]

skibidi factory

i am waste

i waste everything

me sinking super computers on purpose

[hollow hazel]

"Train will be shortly arriving at Exporting H M F 20 min"

[dreamy bane]

i can sink plutonium pellets right

[visual cradle]

sometimes when i go afk and i want tickets ill jsut feed the output of some expensive item factory into a sink and then come ack to the game rich

[quiet gust]

you can sink fuel rods though

[dreamy bane]

oh fuck i thought i could sink the pellets now i have shit tonna waste lying around and radiation everywhere

[quiet gust]

in fact you can only sink encased uranium cells, uranium fuel rods and plutonium fuel rods in the entire nuclear pipeline

and uranium

[hollow hazel]

That's one irradiated sink...

[visual cradle]

im sinking your ship arrgg matey

[hollow hazel]

Wonder if that radiation carries over to the shop. Can you imagine an irradiated cart? 😄

[dreamy bane]

plutonium fuel rods or cells?

[quiet gust]

rods

[hard ivy]

Why would no waste be a disadvantage?

[slim rock]

Hello, I'm new here. Where can I post a question about how to build something.

[quiet gust]

either #math-and-meta or #design-and-architecture depneding on the question

[hard ivy]

Or #1038092680493801533

[quiet gust]

or here if u want

[hollow hazel]

#1038092680493801533 for general and organized help
#math-and-meta to get help figuring out the most efficient production chain
#design-and-architecture for the most streamlined looking factory.

[slim rock]

I'm having a little trouble with my coal power plant. I'll try math, tnx

[hard ivy]

And if you build too big, you still do 🙃

[split pewter]

a main issue i had was my sulfuric acid output from uranium fuel cells was going into the input yet still overflowing

[hard ivy]

Plutonium made it easier tho. It makes a lot less waste than uranium

[split pewter]

definitely

and if you dont need extra power plutonium is refined from waste so it can be sinked

yes

-# sadly

[slate python]

How did you make your text so small

[split pewter]

do "-# example"

-# no quotation marks ofc

[slate python]

-# example

Oh ok

Thanks

[split pewter]

i always run something at max output or if its too high just as fast as the conveyor

or pipe

[slate python]

What is the best power source

[hard ivy]

Define "best"

[open pollen]

Rocket fuel or nuclear at end game

[slate python]

One that gives a lot of power for a long time

What

[open pollen]

What do you even have unlocked?

[hard ivy]

All power sources can give power for infinite time
Except biomass

[quiet gust]

rocket fuel if you wanna place 1000's of fuel; gens, nuclear if you wanna go through comoplex processing and hundreds of water extractors

[lime ermine]

I mean really anything except biofuel is infinite time

[slate python]

Biofuel

[quiet gust]

...

[open pollen]

Also power never stops if set up correctly so it all “lasts a long time”

[lime ermine]

Oh don't worry about big fuel yet, just get to coal power

Tier 3

[open pollen]

Then you do biofuel till you unlock coal power. You have no other power options at this point you need to progress

[slate python]

That’s literally all I have (biomass)

[quiet gust]

then speedrun to coal

[slate python]

Ok

[dreamy bane]

mad man

[slate python]

What do I need to do to unlock coal I already am in phase 1 and 2

[quiet gust]

first milestone of tier 3

[slate python]

Ok

[quiet gust]

and look up gaming with doc's coal power plant tutorial so you can easily make it well

its a yt short

[open pollen]

Or just learn how to set it up yourself so you learn

[quiet gust]

fair

[open pollen]

It’s intro to fluids tbh you gotta learn it and not follow tutorials verbatim

[quiet gust]

fluids are kinda nightmare to learn on your own

imo

[open pollen]

True, but following a tutorial for how to make a coal plant exactly does not teach you fluids it teaches you how to make that exact coal setup

[mortal ginkgo]

its overrated, someone who doesn't want to use 100% of a pipe can easily get away with it imo

[quiet gust]

and also un intuitive

[rocky sierra]

do gases travel instantly?

[mortal ginkgo]

no, they just dont need pumps

[quiet gust]

no they fill up everything connected equally if possible

iirc

they are weird

[slate python]

I don’t have water stuff

[open pollen]

Gases travel via pipes and have to fill, but don’t have any head lift to worry about so no pumps

[quiet gust]

thats at coal power, if your not there yet, then dont worry till you get there

[open pollen]

You unlock it Near coal power. Progress in the game

[slate python]

Ok

Is there a way to quickly make parts in the hub crafter

[quiet gust]

wym

[slate python]

Like all the materials in your inventory to all the parts you could make with them

[open pollen]

Either make it with constructors/automate it or hand craft it. If you tap space I believe when hand crafting you don’t have to hold down the craft button (I think that is how you do it it has been a while since I hand crafted)

[reef basin]

automate them instead of handcrafting

[slate python]

I am to broke

[open pollen]

But yeah you should be trying to automate atleast the basics

[open pollen]

What do you mean?

[reef basin]

even one machine is better than nothing

[slate python]

Ya I am making rods rn

Automatic

That’s it

[open pollen]

1 miner conveyored to a few smelters to a few constuctors and boom you got automation. Don’t even need foundations

[slate python]

That is what I am doing

[reef basin]

even a hand-fed machine is automatic

[slate python]

If you deconstruct the hub do you lose your progress in the crafter

Like what you can craft

[reef basin]

no

[slate python]

Ok good

I have a bad location

[reef basin]

I don't think there's something like "bad location", especially not from one of the 4 starting ones

[slate python]

No I mean I put the hub in a bad location

[mortal ginkgo]

oh no

[reef basin]

well you can always move it

[slate python]

I put it almost on top of a iron vain because I didn’t know there was big drills

[mortal ginkgo]

hub is forever stuck in that place now

😭

[open pollen]

Dont confuse them Unreal they are like brand new

[mortal ginkgo]

I am sure he would try the Remove Mode before even reading what I wrote :p

[slate python]

GOOD

[mortal ginkgo]

also one person above already gave the answer

[slate python]

is there a way to place flooring faster

I have to place 1 by 1

[reef basin]

zoop mode

but also, read the game UI, it answers most of your questions that you have here

[open pollen]

Look at the hotkeys and UI at the bottom of your screen and change the build mode to zoop mode

[buoyant vapor]

which is better, cluster or pulse noblisk?

[reef basin]

each has their own purpose

[open pollen]

Yeah it’s a build mode. I’m pretty sure it’s called zoop mode as well but tbh I may be confusing myself

[icy crag]

yo anyone know how to get rid of the white egg like rocks

nobelisks dont work on em

[reef basin]

that usually means that it's permanent

[open pollen]

Some rocks are sadly indestructible

[icy crag]

ugh ty guys

👍

[buoyant vapor]

is there any reason to make gas noblisk? is it good at killing animals?

[open pollen]

I always hate when there are rocks in my way of my plans that turned out to be indestructible

[hard ivy]

It stunlocks nests so it's faster than sneaking up on them ig

[atomic notch]

Pulse nobs go hard

[hard ivy]

? I literally said that you can sneak up on them. It's just slow

[steel iris]

Hey all, Ive got a problem with understanding how gasses work.. The flow rate isnt reaching its max. Ive got a train station with a buffer, it will flow with 600/m but it wont flow out of the buffer with 600

[buoyant vapor]

they are good for throwing around randomly when you are bored

[steel iris]

From station to buffer is 600/m just the buffers output is a weird flow rate even when it got plenty of space to flow to.

[buoyant vapor]

are these the best things to chainsaw for mycelia? #screenshots message

[winged walrus]

dune has those balls too

[buoyant vapor]

did there use to be mycelia grass?

do you mean rocky desert?

im at dunes i dont see anything

oh alr

[gilded goblet]

is the caves that lead to sam supposted to be a pain in the dick hole to find

any of them

icl idk where the giant forrest is

i was trying to find the one in red forrest i think

i think?

idk lemme screenshot the map

the house marker is where the sam ore is

omfg i think i know where it is

is it those little tiny rocks in a MASSIVE pile

[wicked nacelle]

the top right corner of the map shows the coordinates of the mouse cursor and you can type in coordinates and it will show you where it is on the map

-2600,730 for example

[gilded goblet]

ohhh

[gilded goblet]

it's at 148, -29

i forgot coordinates existed

i'm at the 2 waterfalls near the rf

lmao

i just want to know so I can get dim depot up

so I can start pumping concrete beams plates yada yada

i see

I will be minering that sam ore and conveyoring it straight out of the cave. lol

oh thats abusive.

I looked at scim and the entrance is between the waterfalls

yup theres the entrance

ts is getting conveyored to my base fuck that

ah

lmao

[mint lance]

i pood

[near tartan]

hello me and my friend are looking for people to play/chill with

[wicked nacelle]

post here please https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758

[near tartan]

my bad

[wicked nacelle]

no worries 🙂

[placid stirrup]

I bet some non English speakers have

[near tartan]

ive had 0 luck 🙁

i convinced my friend to buy it weve just started a new world and now searching for a 3rd player to join us

[zenith spruce]

Eyo
is there a list of the drop items next to crash sites so I can create a scavenger route for some research items?

[placid stirrup]

2 people is a good number, 3 or more can be overwhelming

[hard ivy]

there is one on the wiki
but only totals

[atomic notch]

Ive been through a few multiplayer games it sucks dude

Only had one that went to the end of the game and it was on a server i hosted lol

[near tartan]

yea but would be nice to have a 3rd to chill with

[zenith spruce]

doggo locations?

[hard ivy]

you can check the items next to specific sites on SCIM, but you need to have visited the crash site first (or at least loaded it)

[near tartan]

also your welcome to chill and be friends with us if youd like even if you dont join we play multiple other games aswell

[atomic notch]

One off games where they dont message you back to hop on.

[zenith spruce]

ok unfortunate, ty

[near tartan]

crap someone personal messeged me and i accedently ignored it

if you see this please re message me

[torn furnace]

i made the alien generator , why is there import belt hole on it ? nothing in the interface sugest i feed it anything

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch apa

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=apa

[teal crystal]

do people keep playing after they've beaten it?

[placid stirrup]

@vapid girder

[atomic notch]

Its like cigarettes, cant just have one

[teal crystal]

it's so addictive! but what do you end up working towards after? i guess maybe i shouldn't ask in case there are spoilers

or just starting a new factory i guess

and improved one from what you've learned

[atomic notch]

People work on build orders

[quiet gust]

hey im builiding the factory for that

[atomic notch]

Oh you mean in the same world?

[hard ivy]

let's hope you have at least 100 GW of raw power generation

[atomic notch]

Yeah idk just fuck around

[still arch]

i think i can't complete it until satisfactory 2 released

[teal crystal]

yeah

[quiet gust]

i have 200 and am making 4 augmentors

[elder valley]

bro i swear there is like no flat terrain to build on

im just gonna belt everything in from kilometers away

[forest grotto]

should i stop my production to get more power for more production?

[hard ivy]

build on foundations???

[elder valley]

its still on a cliffside

[quiet gust]

but also im building an ionized fuel plant right after

[elder valley]

unless thats normal and im extra picky

[hard ivy]

and?

[elder valley]

fair enough

i forgot that were its uses

[atomic notch]

I have like 4 but one is a creative world i mess around on

[placid stirrup]

Does the power startup of a new generation facility exceed your available power?

[forest grotto]

yes there are like 5 different coal generators+ water to power

[placid stirrup]

Temporary bio burners are probably faster to set up than turning off some production only to turn it back on later

[forest grotto]

ok thanks

[near tartan]

Finding someone to join me is alot harder then I thought it would be

I see that now :/

[cedar portal]

It's also a long term kind of game, not something you just play for 20 minutes and go. So most people play with friends with knowwn shcedules.

[wicked nacelle]

also at this point 1.0 has been out for a while so a lot of the people that came back for 1.0 have moved on to other games

[cedar portal]

I think a lot of people came back for 1.0. An interesting stat I noticed before is almost everyone who completed onboarging alsso did th first elevator stage, so they stuck with it

[pallid vortex]

Hello, I accidently started playing my game with some mods and when I noticed I removed them and edited inside satisfactory-calculator... one of thge mods was the 500 inv slots but I want to do fully vanilla 1.1 and I've already researched 12 slots and for some reason I cannot edit my character save file to have 30 slots and always now has 39 slots... Is there anything else I can do?

I really dont want to start a new save...

Dammmmm that is so sad how one mistake just ruin 4 hours of playtime...

[reef basin]

~~that's what you get for playing with mods ~~

[vestal mica]

you sure it's not 36? if you skip onboarding you start with 36 even though you should only have 27

unlocks don't do anything until you would have naturally gotten past 36. then they start working again

[pallid vortex]

I did skip the onboard yeah and its 18 you start with + 3 from T1 +3 T2 and mam research crystal +6 = 12

thats what most online info says you start with 18

[vestal mica]

what i mean is, if you skip onboarding it give you 4 rows of inventory, even though if you didn't skip it, you'd only have 27 after the end of onboarding

so your first few unlocks look like they don't do anything if you skip onboarding.

[pallid vortex]

so how many should I have after onboarding + 12

[thin compass]

Yall I got a question so like how do u get rid of the exclamation point on Train signals?

[hard ivy]

that means the signal has an error

[thin compass]

Yea but like how do I get rid of the error

[hard ivy]

depends what it is

[thin compass]

It says signal loops into itself

[hard ivy]

then post screenshots in #1038092680493801533

[vestal mica]

if you've done 12 unlocks after onboarding you should be at 39

[hard ivy]

unless this is the only signal you've placed

[vapid girder]

#screenshots message

[thin compass]

It is

[hard ivy]

then you need more.

[pallid vortex]

ah that means my save has been saved. I removed all mods before I unlocked or made anything in the world just inv space stayed. So if I make the inv 39 means that everything else is good to go. Ty man1 I can continue

[hard ivy]

once you place one signal, you need to signal the entire network

[thin compass]

Oh

[crisp crane]

Hey all, is there a good guide or rule of thumb about rocket fuel? Specifically is it more efficient on a crude oil basis to use the nitro recipe or the standard?

[hard ivy]

use https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production and check different recipe chains

[slate python]

What are the orange lines under the white cubes for the health bar

[thin compass]

So basically I’m using a giant loop around my entire map. And for each station I have a secondary path to go if the train station is full. Knowing this should i go around and place path signals at every split and block signals at every exit to fix it?

[crisp crane]

I’ll check if this works on mobile, I’m at work and wanted to sketch/plan out my expansion

[hard ivy]

it does, but best in landscape

[winged walrus]

do vertical pipelines work?

[hard ivy]

yes? why wouldn't they?

[wicked nacelle]

I don't have any orange lines. screenshot? oh I guess there are tiny ones. I don't think they are for anything

[crisp crane]

My phone doesn’t like this. I’ll keep trying

[hard ivy]

unfortunately, I don't know any calc that works better on mobile

[slate python]

Look at Red_skittles post under looking for group his post is called looking for friends

[crisp crane]

No worries, I’ll see if there’s anything on the wiki or Reddit

[slate python]

Oh ok

[wicked nacelle]

a quick glance looks like it's very similar between the two but the proiblem with nitro is that you get waste compacted coal so you have to either use that for something else or make some normal turbofuel anyhow... so I just go with the base recipe for all of it.

[crisp crane]

Boy kind of an odd number for the rocket fuel burn in fuel gens

[hard ivy]

25/6 exactly btw

[wicked nacelle]

it's close enough to 10/m that I just go with that.

[crisp crane]

What’s that?

[hard ivy]

25 divided by 6

[wicked nacelle]

and I just throw 60 gens on a pipe

[hard ivy]

that's at 240% clock speed

[wicked nacelle]

ah, I don't underclock... but maybe I should just for cuz

[crisp crane]

I think I’m just dense. Will that help plan out the number of generators I’ll need?

[wicked nacelle]

my power fluctuates anyhow so I don't notice a single gen (per line)

[hard ivy]

you take the amount of RF you're making, divide it by 25/6, and that's how many generators at 100% speed you need

[crisp crane]

Man I’m bad at math. How do you divide by a division?

[hard ivy]

x/(25/6)

[wicked nacelle]

"a division" is called "a fraction"

[hard ivy]

so x*6/25

[wicked nacelle]

multiply by a fraction.

[crisp crane]

I’m sooooo bad at math

[atomic notch]

Man i miss flowers

[crisp crane]

Good lord. I’m sure I’ll figure it out

[atomic notch]

Did they stop teaching math?

[radiant swallow]

is there a way to make blueprints inside water for water extractors? i need 500 water extractors...

[crisp crane]

I was homeschooled.

[atomic notch]

Sucks lol

Shoulda got a tutor or smth

[hard ivy]

shouldn't be legal tbh

[atomic notch]

Yeah

[slow kindle]

Do the language channels still exist?

[green fiber]

for translators only

[hard oasis]

im about to finish phase 3 do i make a factory to automate all the parts or do i manually put them into a manufacturer?

[vestal mica]

sure

[winged walrus]

there are other discord servers for different languages if i'm not mistaken

[reef basin]

not official ones

[radiant swallow]

i guess i'll go fuck myself then

[crisp crane]

I had set up a secondary power generator area while I reworked my first one. It just had regular fuel, so I’ll probably just use that with the nitro recipe because that’s less tear down

[wicked nacelle]

there's a mod that a guy here supports that sort of does what you want. it's not technically blueprints though

[hard oasis]

idk if i can be bothered to make an entire train line and massive factory for this

[slow kindle]

I do see here that there are some channels called "greek, thai, swedish" etc.. are they still being used?

[crisp crane]

Big agree

[green fiber]

for translation

[wicked nacelle]

there is one called "skylines" or something?

[slow kindle]

Is there any way to access those so I could translate too in my language?

[wicked nacelle]

but it's really wonky to use but it will let you instance water extractors with pipes and such

[cinder jay]

how far out into the void can u build?

[radiant swallow]

im trying to play without mods so i can get all the achievements and be done with the game for ever lol

[green fiber]

they are only for communicating about translation, the actual translation is done by applying via a form so you get access to Crowdin
#open-a-ticket message

[atomic notch]

Till the death barrier

[slow kindle]

Thank you

[reef basin]

you shouldn't see those 🤔

[wicked nacelle]

you can build past that I'm pretty sure - I thought YOU just can't go much past that.

[coarse epoch]

how scared should I be of this mod? https://ficsit.app/mod/InfiniteElevators

It seems safe to me, but am I asking for trouble in some way I'm not tracking?

[wicked nacelle]

or you mean the hard death barrier not the "warning damage barrier"

[wicked nacelle]

try it and see.

[radiant swallow]

cool

so i am forced to manually place 500 water extractors

[wicked nacelle]

you don't need 500 water extractors to do anything in the game so you can just choose not to

[radiant swallow]

fucking hell this game's limitations on blueprints sucks ass some times

[radiant swallow]

"hurr durr nobody is forcing you to do anything" well i want to play the game

[wicked nacelle]

great, so go play and stop talking

[radiant swallow]

don't give me sorry-ass excuses about problems i have in-game then

[inner echo]

It's meditative.

I just got done laying 120. 2 'pumps', 30 reactors.

[wicked nacelle]

"I have all these rules I made up for myself for how I have to do something and I'm mad at someone else because of them"

[coarse epoch]

I mean, the thing I'm afraid of is things breaking 6 months from now when some game update changes how elevators work or whatever. I suspect not, but

[wicked nacelle]

every mod has that possibility

[inner echo]

The constructor trick greatly helped me in calming my anger towards water extractors.

[radiant swallow]

me when i want to build a cool factory in my factory game (the game wants you to suffer for no reason)

[inner echo]

Now...if the water level was just...equal in certain locations.

[coarse epoch]

not true. QOL mods often can't break things, it's more like mods that add new types of game objects

[radiant swallow]

omg i thought i was going crazy

[inner echo]

It's the first play I've encountered it...and it's twice.

You want infinite nudge mod. There is necessity for it besides vertical nudge now that that is in game.

[wicked nacelle]

pumps have never bothered me enough that I would even look for such a setting

[radiant swallow]

i mean headlift isn't even that big of a problem in this game tbh

it's the small pipes more like

when you need like 3600 water/min you can really feel the pipes just not being enough lol

[inner echo]

I have one buffer generating all the headlift for the pipe bucket feeding my reactors.

generating/applying.

Pipe stacks come out really pretty though!

[wicked nacelle]

autoconnect blueprints make pulling pipes a non-issue

though I'd sure love a mk3 2400/m pipe that is larger diameter and then there are mk1/2 adapters to connect into it

[green fiber]

idk why they dont just lower the nuke water cost.
its not like it really matters much anymore if its 600/min or 240/min

when literally everything else in the nuclear chain already is complex

[inner echo]

For the real math people: what is the IRL diameter of a 600 cubic meter per minute water pipe?

[wicked nacelle]

depends on the pressure, right?

[green fiber]

theres websites that calculate that

and i think most people would refer to calculators in that case anyway

[inner echo]

I am sure. But it's something I've pondered and figured somebody might have fun with it.

[wicked nacelle]

I meant how hard you push the water through

also crappy google AI says: You would need a PVC pipe with an approximate internal diameter of (\text{2.3\ meters}).

[green fiber]

irl it depends on pipe length too due to friction

[slow kindle]

How many coal gens can 7 water extractors supply?

[inner echo]

Was just looking for ballpark...not excessive pressure.

[coarse epoch]

16 and a bit

[wicked nacelle]

8 coal gens to 3 water extractors is the perfect ratio for full use

You can still push on it to make it move

k 🙂

[green fiber]

either way, our pipes internal diameter is coded to be 1.3 m

[wicked nacelle]

and yes, I know even at the bottom of the ocean water density is barely changed from my faucet

[green fiber]

and at that diameter.... you can get a lot of cubic meters per minute

[vestal mica]

not the pressure, but the velocity of the water.

if i move water 100m/s through a small pipe, more goes through than if it's going at 50m/s right?

i honestly don't know

[green fiber]

our pipes have an inner cross sectional area of 1.327 m³
if you want 600 m³/min thats just 10 m³/sec
we got 1.32 m² so flow velocity is 7.3 m/sec ish per sec

[wicked nacelle]

the size of the pipe doesn't matter as long as it's the same. doesn't matter if it's a "small pipe" or "large pipe"

[vestal mica]

it does though. if a pipe is "full" and water is moving through it at a higher velocity, the m3/s is higher than at a slower velocity despite the same pipe size

[slow kindle]

How much coal gens can 1 coal ore provide for?

[green fiber]

no the area of the pipe is 1.327 m²
multiple the area by length and you get the volume, but that doesnt matter for flow speed

[green fiber]

depends on your miner mk and node purity

[crimson merlin]

jo

im new

[vestal mica]

but the pipes in game are 600m3 / minute not second

[green fiber]

its 10m³ / sec

[slow kindle]

Lets say I have 14 coal gens, would 3 ores with miner mk2 be enoguh? will tell u purity later

[crimson merlin]

what ist is the best energy source in easearly game

[green fiber]

14 need 210/min coal
just make 210/min, no matter how

[wicked nacelle]

how much does one coal gen want? Then figure out how many 14 want. You're not going to be able to have people do simple math for you your whole playthorugh so it's time to start doing it for yourself now

[green fiber]

you could use those pipes as slides

1.3 m inner diameter

[vestal mica]

i run them through the refinery first.

heavy human residue

they're american

[wicked nacelle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Pipelines This says it's 2M width/height so wouldn't that be pi area?

[slow kindle]

prob is idk how much 1 goal gen needs

[green fiber]

thats outer diameter

[wicked nacelle]

go click e on one

[green fiber]

im talking inner diameter, which is set in code funny enough as a variable

[slow kindle]

alr, ty

[wicked nacelle]

oh, okay. well that sounds pretty authoritative 🙂

[gentle willow]

i may need help with getting circuit boards

can't make that alone

[green fiber]

either way, if i plop those values into a pretty standard pipe tool online it tells me that for a 100m long pipe i only need 1 bar to move fluid at 789m³/min

so realistically our pipes could probably do more but the code cant do it

since day 1

[slow kindle]

My converyor merger kinda "bottlenecks" my converyors, what do i do?

[hard ivy]

1.2: "The Pipe Update"

[wicked nacelle]

use more/faster belts?

[green fiber]

it isnt the merger.
check the belts

[slow kindle]

The belts before the merger are like insanely full 24/7 but the belts after the merger arent

[hard ivy]

my 600/min alu water pipes all work fine

[green fiber]

then you have a lower mk belt wedged somewhere

[wicked nacelle]

check you don't have a tiny sliver of lower-mk belt hidden under the merger

delete the merger and look

you'll want to delete the whole section of belt with the lower bit in it and remake it as a single belt

[naive palm]

there's nothing quite like 500m of mk4 belt with a snip of mk1 belt invisibly mixed in at the end.

[slow kindle]

Dude guessed it 😭
Thanks alot, will help my coal gens

[wicked nacelle]

sounds like you were overloading a pipe segment with more than 600 then. If you feed in 600 and have wastewater trying to enter then it won't be able to flow-- but if you feed from the other side they can go different paths that never exceed 600 at any particular spot

[slow kindle]

Making a new satisfactory world was SO the right choice 🔥

[wicked nacelle]

doesn't work for me -- ooh it does if you're full screen

[frail sleet]

it's "only" around 6km/h water flow

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, i got it - thank you

[frail sleet]

or did i miss a 0

[green fiber]

closer to 26 km/h

[fiery pewter]

Me: "Was it ycyvydfhvyerstjjo, or was it hcyxgsregjgbnkp?"

[shy mulch]

Any of you lot built a massive central sorting area?
I made one around the time when I was finishing phase 5 and it seemed like it would last forever. 8 train unloading platforms that can take absolutely anything in any car and it's all fed into a massive network of smart splitters, and is all nicely sorted
But it has an absolute maximum of 9600 items per minute, which is no longer sufficient for my needs, I thought about extending it but it would be a lot of effort, and I'm wondering if just redesigning the entire thing would be a better idea
Keen to see if anyone has built something similar, how did you tackle it?

[winged walrus]

FINALLYYY!
7.5 heavy modular frame per minute factory is done

it works perfectly

throughput monitor says 7-8

time to do alumi

thank god i have a LOT of bauxite next to the factories

[shy mulch]

I also think I made the game harder for myself by accident. I planned my final BWD factory before I had most of the alts unlocked. Now I have them all but I didn't bother to re-plan it to use the alts. So I've done the whole thing with basic recipes, now it's proving hard to extend

[winged walrus]

ah

same, i heard i haven't unlocked a very good heavy modular frame alt recipe and build a factory

[wicked nacelle]

Base recipes for higher tier stuff aren’t that bad. None of them are “must use alt X or you’re dumb” kind of things

[shy mulch]

yeah that's fair, I'm gonna go through the final factory and compare if any of them have scope for improvement

[wicked nacelle]

Having gotten the materials you need already I’m guessing it’s unlikely that any improvement would be worth the logistics to get whatever new requirements the alt would have. Alts are more of a “before you start looking at what is convenient” kind of thing.

[hard ivy]

well, for most of the endgame items, there aren't any alts

[wicked nacelle]

I was talking turbo motors and fused frames and such

[shy mulch]

yeah the endgame stuff doesn't really have much alts, I'm thinking about the stuff before that

[wicked nacelle]

None of the alts are like the oil alts where they’re massive improvements

[shy mulch]

even fairly basic stuff like motors, can be really improved

[wicked nacelle]

I hate making crystal oscillators.

[shy mulch]

hah, they are one of the weird ones that seem like they should be simple but somehow aren't

[wicked nacelle]

Fields upon fields of manufacturers for crystal oscillators

[winged walrus]

WHAT

[shy mulch]

my megafactory is making 14/min crystal oscillators atm, would need a lot more if i change things up because some of the alts i like use them

[wicked nacelle]

My second factory I actually broke all my rules and built two floors that make the same thing. Normally I just extend horizontally

[winged walrus]

MY NOBELISK STICKED TO THE BOULDER THAT WAS THROWN BY AN ANIMAL?!!

it killed me.

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah I probably make 200/m?

[shy mulch]

that's a lot, what do you do with them

[wicked nacelle]

Maybe I lied? Maybe just 125-150. Nuclear. The superposition oscillator. Then lots of rcus and motors.

[shy mulch]

I'm thinking now, there's a 3rd option
Option 1 - Shard everything in my megafactory and somehow bring in a ton more materials, most of the work here would be upgrading my rail which is really at it's limit already
Option 2 - Rip out the guts of the megafactory and rebuild to use more suitable alts
Option 3 (just though about) - Mixture of both ideas, keep what's there, extend it to build more but using nice alts this time, and add a new train station to receive the mats for the new section

[wicked nacelle]

I eat 80 super oscillators a minute just for BWD

[steady glade]

rip it up

[shy mulch]

How many BWD you making?

[wicked nacelle]

I usually end up with a mini mega factory at my starting base and then augment production elsewhere and train/drone it in

[wicked nacelle]

40 slooped to 80

[shy mulch]

That is rather a lot

[wicked nacelle]

My goal was a coupon a minute. I’m at 250M/m

[winged walrus]

which alien thing says harvest?

[wicked nacelle]

Sloops?

But maybe spheres. It’s def one of the two. Or both

[hard ivy]

max per coupon cost is 249 501 250 p/min

[quaint summit]

hmmm I bet I get some hate for this, but the hoverpack sucks ass

[hard ivy]

agreed. had to buff all its stats by 2x with a mod to make it useful

[shy mulch]

apart from being wrong, why do you think that?

[wicked nacelle]

I may be ever so slightly under then. I do have my big sink point items on balanced belts so my points/m are pretty flat instead of spiky

[vestal mica]

it sucks. navigation is too slow and clunky

[quaint summit]

unless there is some battery I can carry for it, it is seriously useless

[shy mulch]

sounds like user error

[vestal mica]

well, it's not really meant for exploration.

[reef basin]

It's for moving within factory

[vestal mica]

but it still sucks

[hard ivy]

you can't. I literally used to use the jetpack for absolutely everything before I installed the mod

[wicked nacelle]

You can easily pull power lines behind you as needed and that’s useful for later. Rail also is powered. And it’s mostly for building bases where you have power readily available

[quaint summit]

so I have to carry my jetpack with me at all times? wasting another inventory slot?

[wicked nacelle]

You can dimensional depot it if one slot matters that much to you

[hard ivy]

I didn't carry the hoverpack at all 🤣
but you can use the depot

[shy mulch]

are you finding missing out on one inventory slot an issue, then it sounds like you have more problems

[reef basin]

Well everything is in dimensional depot anyway, so inventory is practically empty

[quaint summit]

ofcourse, but it defeats the purpose. there is not much I can't do with the jetpack that I can do with the hoverpack

[wicked nacelle]

Completely agree. I see that as a benefit. Some random item I don’t have to clean out later

[dusty jasper]

Is there a way to change to screenshot save location when in camera mode mine is in appdata and its kind of an anoiance to go there

[vestal mica]

yeah, i carry two jetpacks just so my inventory doesn't look so empty

[reef basin]

Except... hover

[quaint summit]

wohooo...

[shy mulch]

trying to build a huge factory while balancing yourself with a jetpack, no thanks

[reef basin]

It's great for building

[hard ivy]

especially with LBF

[hard ivy]

I've been doing that for years before the hoverpack was even a thing. totally fine

[shy mulch]

it can be done with practice, but it's hard to deny that it's more difficult and more effort

[wicked nacelle]

Anyhow hoverpack isn’t supposed to be the end all be all transport mode.

[hard ivy]

not being able to hover with the jetpack is a skill issue

[wicked nacelle]

Though it’s annoying you can’t get a combo one and they don’t give you a hotkey to swap them

[wicked nacelle]

Lots of things are skill issues that I have no interest in spending the time on gaining

[hard ivy]

it's way more effort to spam all these extra unnecessary poles you need to make the hoverpack not useless

[shy mulch]

I generally have power anywhere I want to use a hoverpack anyway

[wicked nacelle]

I don’t find myself spamming poles in my base. I build out a couple blueprints then connect them then build a couple more

[quaint summit]

but it should at least be able to replace the jetpack, as it feels it is supposed to be your next personal transport device. now I have 2 and have to swap between them when I go to another part of my 'base'

as in, somewhere else in the world

[wicked nacelle]

And of course building additional floors you always have power

[dusty jasper]

Is there a way to change save location for photos :> ?

[shy mulch]

it's not that though, they are both endgame transportation, one doesn't replace the other

[wicked nacelle]

I like that it doesn’t replace the jet pack. I just wish there was a swap key though. And that it would refuel while powered hovering on hoverpack

[hard ivy]

it should replace the jetpack for building. it's not even close

[shy mulch]

if your bag is open just press the number for the position it's in, for me that's usually 1

[quaint summit]

at the least. because it NEEDS external power I favor the jetpack now

[wicked nacelle]

If it didn’t move then that would be fine. But sometimes I’m in a hurry and now I’m holding nuts

[shy mulch]

teehee you're holding nuts

[quaint summit]

or at least make a battery pack for it

[wicked nacelle]

I do agree with people who think hoverpack should be able to consume batteries

[shy mulch]

if you're favouring one over the other, then you're not understanding it
they are 2 different things for 2 different purposes

[hard ivy]

install a mod to double the range, speed, acceleration and decelearation and it's fine 🙃

[wicked nacelle]

I usually play at 2x speed so I get most of that for free except the range

[quaint summit]

tbf I'm playing in a modless world (never have installed mods for Satisfactory), so maybe in the future. but for now I was pretty bummed by its performance

[wicked nacelle]

I find it to be perfectly sufficient for everything base building related except a bit slow for getting from one side of a factory to the other.

[atomic notch]

Nothing is ever good enough for yall

[quaint summit]

speed isn't an issue. you go just as fast as you would run

[wicked nacelle]

I also explore caves with hoverpack.

[wicked nacelle]

I never travel at that speed

[shy mulch]

in my larger factories I place mk6 belts just to cruise on to get around

[wicked nacelle]

At least belt slide jump speed.

If not throw down a hypertube cannon and then enter it 1-3 to 1/2 of the way down to get across a large factory

[quaint summit]

been doing some tubes lately, they're quite fun actually

[wicked nacelle]

I have no interest in point to point travel. That’s why cannons are so nice. Even if it’s facing the exact opposite direction you want you still just hop in and then turn around

[quaint summit]

and with the new way belts and tubes can be placed they're also aesthetically pleasing

[wicked nacelle]

Ionized fuel gives you stupid amount of change of direction speed while flying.

[quaint summit]

anyways, my factory must grow, and that bloody hoverpack is not helping. I just needed to rant a bit...

[wicked nacelle]

Yet somehow if you slow down it can’t give you any speed back …???

[hard ivy]

yeah, with the double speed mod, I build without sprinting, and only sprint when moving across long distances inside the factory so I'd say the speed is sufficient from a game balance perspective

but the range absolutely is not. and it has been buffed already.

[quaint summit]

they should make it consume batteries. that would be a good buff

[wicked nacelle]

You must build very differently than I do. Maybe I just build to suit the hoverpack capabilities without really thinking about alternatives

[wicked nacelle]

And make batteries worth making again

[quaint summit]

so I guess drones are a no-go too?

[shy mulch]

drones are awesome

[quaint summit]

ofcourse nothing beats belts and trains, but I'd expect that the alternatives are at least decent to do

[wicked nacelle]

I already have to package rocket fuel so I just use that. Or plutonium. There’s no reason to use batteries for drones

No they changed drones to take other fuel types. Takes fuels and nuclear

[quaint summit]

ow, that's a decent upgrade. very end-game

[hard ivy]

drones are great for their use case, it's just that they no longer require batteries. you can use different fuels now. you can use batts, but they're not that great

[wicked nacelle]

And pretty sure rocket fuel is same drone speed as batteries and I’m already making rocket fuel

If you could speed up drone docking speed with batteries that could work too.

[hard ivy]

and batteries have been removed from the one recipe that used them, so they're basically useless now

[quaint summit]

tbf, batteries are bad for the environment ofcourse 😛

[wicked nacelle]

I’m actually not sure why they didn’t just remove them from the game entirely.

[carmine furnace]

is it possible that MK6 conveyor belts transport more then the 1.2k/min it says it does into an awesome sink. i have a system producing 3.6k silica and i split it into 3 Mk6 belts but no matter what i do it seems one of them is lacking for some reason???? and i have 0 explenation for it i checked all the machines and mathematically i should be making the perfect amount with the perfect split

[inner echo]

But but but...tradition! Batteries are how drones go!!!

[wicked nacelle]

They don’t even get used in power storage. Which is actually trivial to build compared to batteries

[hard ivy]

I'm not sure why they nerfed them in the first place

[inner echo]

I do still like them...for whatever dumb reason.

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah I agree. I mean either have them be important or not in the game. It’s such a weird spot with how they are now

It’s just taking up space in wiki entries

[quaint summit]

that would delete half of the alternative recipes

[wicked nacelle]

Huh?

[quaint summit]

there are a bunch of recipes that are seriously bad and not needed

[inner echo]

You don't use 24 of them per minute for super computers????

[quaint summit]

so with that reasoning those should be removed from the game too

[wicked nacelle]

I wouldn’t say there are a bunch. Though biocoal and charcoal are a bit stupid

[silk rose]

Alts are fine

Choice would be harder if they all were good

[wicked nacelle]

I don’t think that’s how it works.

[silk rose]

Works for me

[hard ivy]

I think that's how it should be

[silk rose]

There is plenty of crash sites so you dont need to visit them all, you just get good alts and forget others

[wicked nacelle]

You can just have your own rule that says “I always take the first one” if that makes it better for you 😛 making the game longer by making people find more hdds isn’t meaningful game design

[silk rose]

Getting all the drives is your choice tho

They are balanced, each drive gives 4 alts, and about quarter of alts is good, thats how i think it should work

[wicked nacelle]

Not sure if you’re thinking that means you get on average a good one per hdd but that’s not how the math works.

[silk rose]

There is not like 5 of them so math should work there

Its not 1 good per hdd, i mean they just give you more choice by adding those lose alts

You can get good ones or get them all or whatever

[stray loom]

You're still limited by the recipes that can show up in the pool based on your progress so having more choices doesn't do much if you've already cherry picked all the good ones you have access to.

[wicked nacelle]

You cannot just “get good ones” with how the game is designed.

[silk rose]

It makes hand made map kida random tho

[silk rose]

Isnt good and bad that we were talking here about

[hard ivy]

By my count, there's 56 good alts - alts that I would consider using. pretty much half

[silk rose]

Even better

That hdd gambling feels like part of exploration

[naive palm]

I'm addicted to alt recipes man..

alt recipe junkie. Got more harddrives than good sense.

[hard ivy]

but counting allts that I would see someone using, and not suggest an alternative whenever I do, it's closer to 70

[silk rose]

Cast screw 🥀

[naive palm]

I have so many alt recipes I don't even need screws anymore.

[silk rose]

Hell hes on another level

[hard ivy]

it's on neither of my lists

[silk rose]

Dont you mean its bad

[pastel carbon]

Funny thing is that I use or used all 3 screw recipes at some point in some location on my map

[hard ivy]

screws are generally not good, regardless of how you make them

[pastel carbon]

Well, copper rotors are pretty neat

[silk rose]

Yes they take too much belts

[hard ivy]

the only good screw-using recipe imo

[stray loom]

It isn't strictly bad. It just has a limited window of usefulness. Steel screw is better if you want to keep screws but most people just go with alts that get rid of them entirely

[pastel carbon]

Meh, I don't even hate screws that much

[hard ivy]

not because of that. the recipes that use them are, with exactly one exception, just shit

[pastel carbon]

So I use copper rotor

There's plenty of things I hate more

Like refinery spam from pure recipes

Which is why I almost never use them and much prefer alloy recipes

[silk rose]

Fuel gen spam 😭

[lapis steppe]

where can i report bugs?

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @hard ivy

[silk rose]

Qna site

[hard ivy]

both are fine if you just use AC BPs

[silk rose]

And um build it in sky or something

[hard ivy]

that's what I always do regardless

[lapis steppe]

how can i post in it?

[hard ivy]

log in

[silk rose]

Why 🙏

[hard ivy]

why not?

[silk rose]

Doesn't it look bad

[hard ivy]

and?

[silk rose]

And um

[pastel carbon]

I like trying to make my factories look decent, so I only do that at my oil refinery which I accept doesn't look good with all the huge building spam anyway

[silk rose]

Bad looking factory is not my way

[silk rose]

I can spend half of total time just decorating stuff to make single screenshot

[silk rose]

Game gives you a choice we are talking about

[cinder jay]

how do i make 90 degree angles with pipes

[hard ivy]

straight mode

[silk rose]

R

[atomic notch]

Hard r

[sage viper]

Version: 424353, IsEditor: No, IsPerforceBuild: No, BuildConfiguration: Shipping, Launcher: Steam, NetMode: Listen Server, IsUsingMods: No, IsSaveGameEdited: No

GPU Crash dump Triggered

FactoryGameSteam_D3D12RHI_Win64_Shipping!D3D12RHI::TerminateOnGPUCrash() [D:\BuildAgent\work\SR11_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Util.cpp:875]
FactoryGameSteam_D3D12RHI_Win64_Shipping!D3D12RHI::VerifyD3D12Result() [D:\BuildAgent\work\SR11_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Util.cpp:901]
FactoryGameSteam_D3D12RHI_Win64_Shipping!FD3D12DynamicRHI::ProcessInterruptQueue'::2'::<lambda_1>::operator()() [D:\BuildAgent\work\SR11_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Submission.cpp:984]
FactoryGameSteam_D3D12RHI_Win64_Shipping!FD3D12DynamicRHI::ForEachQueue() [D:\BuildAgent\work\SR11_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12RHI.cpp:286]
FactoryGameSteam_D3D12RHI_Win64_Shipping!FD3D12DynamicRHI::ProcessInterruptQueue() [D:\BuildAgent\work\SR11_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Submission.cpp:1147]
FactoryGameSteam_D3D12RHI_Win64_Shipping!FD3D12Thread::Run() [D:\BuildAgent\work\SR11_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private\D3D12Submission.cpp:97]
FactoryGameSteam_Core_Win64_Shipping!FRunnableThreadWin::Run() [D:\BuildAgent\work\SR11_BT\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\Core\Private

my game keeps crashing randomly

[toxic spruce]

Guys what do you think will happen first, Satisfactory on console or GTAVI release?

[cinder jay]

which setting

[silk rose]

Build mode R

[silk rose]

Send it in help channel or something

[silk rose]

Seems like driver or rhi problem

People are actually helpful here you are lucky, you may also ask on modding server

There are cool tech guys

[ivory condor]

Wonder if they are using a Nvidia gpu

[silk rose]

Yes it says d3d.. that means directx12

[silk rose]

Try switching rhi in settings

[ivory condor]

Heard the recent drivers for Nvidia are bad, people are reverting back to the previous drivers, 577 I believe

[hard ivy]

again?

[silk rose]

Nvidia sucks 🥀

[ivory condor]

Of course Nvidias drivers are ass this year

[silk rose]

Last good thing was 3060

[hard ivy]

too bad they have best price to performace where I live

[silk rose]

Depends on price segment as well

[hard ivy]

calling any 60 class card "good" is questionable

a used last-gen 70-80 class card is almost alwyas better

[silk rose]

In price performance you are talking about

[winter island]

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[silk rose]

What

[atomic notch]

Lol

Bro got sent to the shadow realm

[silk rose]

So we dont say nvidia sucks here

[stray loom]

[ivory condor]

Lol what is this

[willow glen]

rip Kyo?

[ivory condor]

Lol

[hard ivy]

no

[willow glen]

oh phew welcome back

[silk rose]

There is option with directx12, try directx11 there

[hard ivy]

I just got added to a ticket channel with nothing in it so idk

[silk rose]

I wonder what triggers that

[ivory condor]

Careful about the shadow realm, that's where Nvidia drivers come from

[hard ivy]

apps -> start ticket

[silk rose]

Did you do that

[hard ivy]

nope

@wicked nacelle did

[silk rose]

'then we still have a problem'

[atomic notch]

Its fine i got amd🙏

[wicked nacelle]

What did I do?

[hard ivy]

^

[silk rose]

And nothing like a man loose inside this building

[silk rose]

And who are you president of his fun club

[ivory condor]

Its fine we can just ignore the bot because nobody has any idea what's going on

[hard ivy]

just go to the ticket channel and click close if it was a missclick

[wicked nacelle]

Weird. Closed

[silk rose]

No that would be your

[wicked nacelle]

Must have been a phone pocket click or something

[ivory condor]

Did you do this

[reef basin]

eh, only if built wrong

[silk rose]

'Uh sir actually '

[reef basin]

just build screw constructor in front of the machine that needs them

connect 1:1 and easy

[silk rose]

Not good looking

Greeny whats with that guys crash log?

[lapis steppe]

i have images on steam but idk how to put them in the post

[reef basin]

I'd say the opposite

[hard ivy]

you need to post them on some image hosting site and then either link them or maybe it's possible to embed them idk

[silk rose]

Ok ill try next time

[lapis steppe]

sorry if im being annoying, but i dont know where to upload the pics

[wicked nacelle]

Search image pastebin

[hard ivy]

like I said, some image hosting site. I use imgur, but you don't have to use it specifically

[wicked nacelle]

Imgur is annoying now.

In that you have to sign up

[hard ivy]

eh, I like that acutally. If I'm sharing an image once, I'm likely to share it again later

[wicked nacelle]

There’s lots out there you can just upload and not worry about ever again

[hard ivy]

but yeah, for a bug report, that's probably unnecessary

[versed plinth]

test message because steam is being dumb

[hard ivy]

yeah, steam is being dumb

[tall lantern]

good news, this is Discord not Steam

[versed plinth]

is it saying you can't synchronize data?

[versed plinth]

i was checking my internet

[hard ivy]

in my case, it just says I'm offline every now and then for the past like 20 mins

[versed plinth]

it says i cant synchronize my saves with the cloud :/

#screenshots message well it appears we are not the only ones

[lost wagon]

since when if you jump and interact with something your character just stand still in the air until you close the window? Or that's a hover feature?

[ivory condor]

My bots always end up being banelings

[winged walrus]

hover pack is so cool

i just unlocked it

[ivory condor]

I swear we live in the dark timeline. I thought with stop killing games initiative things would be getting better, but instead its only getting worse

Steam even has a new rule about how the payment processors can basically censor anything they want to

[hard ivy]

simply allow any amount to be put into the steam wallet 🙃

then you can buy whatever you want
I wonder why they don't do that

[ivory condor]

Because this is the dark timeline and now the payment processors control everything

[winged walrus]

does hypertube cannon work with the hover pack?

[inner echo]

We should have Ticketmaster handle it.

[wicked nacelle]

hoverpack works the exact same way before/after you go through a cannon

not sure what you're really asking

[latent prawn]

well, if you have power at the other end, lol

[wicked nacelle]

works exactly the same way as everywhere else 🙂 but yeah if there's not power there you're going to be sad

[latent prawn]

yeah, worth calling out though

[hard ivy]

the hoverpack has slow fall after disconnection

so maybe that's what they're hoping for

that it'll save after cannoning

[ivory condor]

I know

[hard ivy]

that, idk

[wicked nacelle]

you have to be hovering when you lose power for that though.

[latent prawn]

i'd still rather equip the jetpack or parachute before an attempt

[winged walrus]

with a turbofuel jetpack you can fly much further than without it, idk is that work with hoverpack

[wicked nacelle]

I really wish it had autorotation characteristics so that you had to do a semi-accurate last second stop to use the rotational energy stored in the blades

[wicked nacelle]

no

[hard ivy]

do you have power in the air?

[wicked nacelle]

hoverpack will instantly kill your momentum from cannon and reset it to hoverpack speed if there is power if you press a movement button

[hard ivy]

that too

[hard ivy]

also, turbofuel is one of the most mediocre fuel for that. and in general

[wicked nacelle]

it's useful in that it's worth making anyhow so you already have it so may as well use it. That's all I use once I have it until I get ionized.

[hard ivy]

it's mediocre for power too...

[wicked nacelle]

and it's good for vertical movement so I've never found a reason to use anything else. fuel then turbo fuel then ionized fuel. Fully automated and put it in your depot and you can fly whenever you want 🙂

[hard ivy]

decent vertical speed, sure. but LBF still has better height

though it is slow

[winged walrus]

aw okay

[wicked nacelle]

throw down a foundation refuel and go up again.

[winged walrus]

alumi is actually annoying

[atomic notch]

Just use the hub to climb cliffs

[inner echo]

My maps are just covered in random freestanding ladders....It's kind of fun to find them weeks later...

[atomic notch]

Sometimes ill join a server just fly around and look at all the random stuff

[wicked nacelle]

what is this?

also I'm so happy I kniow about the "alt to skip warning screens" trick now

[atomic notch]

Step one: place hub on cliff top
Step two: kill self

[wicked nacelle]

I thought it was some fancy way to climb up and then delete it and make a new one and... but no

[lime ermine]

The what

I'm taking this

[wicked nacelle]

as soon as the logo disappears and it goes to the full window, (click if in windowed) and hold alt goes straight to main menu

[atomic notch]

Keep inventory helps but if youre hardcore you can just place the hub at the bottom then jump off

[gentle willow]

that's what i did when i was getting some "SAM"

[wicked nacelle]

I would consider that cheating for me... but still awesome 🙂

in my official timeline I have never died -- I just reload and try again

[atomic notch]

Yeah i usually like to keep my hub in the same spot the whole game

[wicked nacelle]

note, if you put stuff down inside your bedroom, it can cause people trying to join your game to crash. I had my nut collection there and a guy couldn't join until I moved them and killed him

some sort of "assertion: not touching the ground" or something in error message

[atomic notch]

Nut collection?

[wicked nacelle]

where do you keep all your golden nuts?

[atomic notch]

In the toilet

[wicked nacelle]

I had one there, too

it will sit on the back of the toilet

[atomic notch]

Flush em away

[wicked nacelle]

can you?

[atomic notch]

Idk tbh

[wicked nacelle]

trying

[atomic notch]

I wonder if theres an ada line for it

[wicked nacelle]

"You really are nuts"

[atomic notch]

Ive only really been sinking waste overflows on this run havent gotten to it

[wicked nacelle]

and yes, it's gone

I admit I reloaded to get my nut back 🙂

[foggy tiger]

Hi i’m itakian boy can someone help me ?

[wicked nacelle]

with what?

[foggy tiger]

For a construction

[wicked nacelle]

you want someone to play in your game with you? or you want to ask a question?

[foggy tiger]

Very large constructions with rims

Can I write you a private? @wicked nacelle

[wicked nacelle]

no thank you

if you have a question just ask. if you want people to play on your game, then post here https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758

[foggy tiger]

Why came on omg

[wicked nacelle]

I'm going to mute you now.

[foggy tiger]

Haha coglione

[quiet gust]

Tf happened

[foggy tiger]

He is stupid

[quiet gust]

...

[ebon silo]

Sorry for the stupid question and sorry in advance if it was in the help, i couldn't find it.

Is there a setting change for how far out something will show as "parallel" when placing something like a stackable conveyor.. I want to know if it matches up, i'm holding control, but there is not a line showing its matched up due to distance. Thanks in advance.

[wicked nacelle]

just some random that isn't interested in the help I'm interested in giving him -- which is answering questions here.

[quiet gust]

Figured

[wicked nacelle]

I don't know of one. I will sometimes build something out to get it closer so I can get the snap point -- and then delete the temporary part

[atomic notch]

i dont think the range is infinite

[gritty spire]

im about to make a T-Intersection railway, it should be built on a foundation correct

[wicked nacelle]

if I'm manifolding too far from machine, build a belt out from the input until I get the splitter snap. then delete the temps then connect it fully

[atomic notch]

are you building on world grid?

[ebon silo]

I appreciate you, thanks for the quick answer

[quiet gust]

The range is like 3.5, foundations iirc

[foggy tiger]

Can you help me in the dedicated channel?

[quiet gust]

If you make a post

[wicked nacelle]

you have to make sure the crossing tracks are VERY near vertically perfect or the game won't recognize them as a potential collision. A foundation is the easiest way to guarantee they are

[gilded goblet]

why cant you automate sam fluctuators

[foggy tiger]

I did

[wicked nacelle]

you can, maybe just not yet? You may not even have the building yet?

[quiet gust]

You can but you need a tier 6 machine

[gritty spire]

heard, thanks

[gilded goblet]

wtf

[quiet gust]

It uses 3 items that's why

The Tier 6 machine has 4 inputs

[gilded goblet]

fair

ah the manufacturer

[inner echo]

It's just part of the progression. I've played without automating them until way later than I should have...

[quiet gust]

That's a #1201555265942724758 question

I will tell you, very few ppl read those posts

[wicked nacelle]

I often make a 2-part blueprint where I put down 1 blueprint once for the center and then 3 copies (or 4) of the "entrance/exit" blueprint that has the right signals and stuff. And have it all on foundations. Lets you make a T/X interesction in just a few clicks

unfortunately you can't make a single blueprint with the whole thing in it

and then I make the left turn/right turn connections in the intersection by hand

[quiet gust]

Real, then you realize you need a stack per converter and cry

[wicked nacelle]

man I tore apart my main plastic/rubber factory and then left to do stuff now I'm too intimidated to go back and finish it but I can't play the game until I get it fixed or I'll completely starve everything pretty quick.

[quiet gust]

ruh roh

[foggy tiger]

@wicked nacelle why you block me

[quiet gust]

stop being annoying dude

[wicked nacelle]

I realized I was partially using a lot of the oil and so I'm moving it to a fully packaged plant so I can use belt logistics to send excess to different places... but it's 7200 fuel so it's not a small process.

[wicked nacelle]

I suggest you do the same 🙂 ---- ERRR BLOCK HIM. Not that you were being annoying

[quiet gust]

for a second i thought you said you were using packaged crude oil lmao

[foggy tiger]

Shit up man

[quiet gust]

what'd i do nvm

[pure robin]

is 10k mwh enough to get me out of oil or should i get more?

[wicked nacelle]

sorry sorry. I reread what I typed and realized I left out an important part

[quiet gust]

i dont block ppl, cause then i read their messages anyways

[wicked nacelle]

You'll need more at some point. My general rule is I keep my production at 150% of my current consumption. Turbo fuel and then rocket fuel drastically stretch how many fuel gennies you can run off a given amount of oil. And watch out for diluted (packaged) fuel and heavy oil residue alts

[quiet gust]

10 gw should be enough, i did 26gw and most ppl max out at 60gw

[hard ivy]

It wasn't enough for me to get to oil. Entirely depends how big you build

[quiet gust]

rather the reasonable max is 60 gw normally

[hard ivy]

Also, please don't make up units

[shy mulch]

When I finished phase 5, I had 60 GW and was barely using half of it

[quiet gust]

they just said 10k (10 thousand) mw

wait i just saw the h

[shy mulch]

yeah MWh is a completely different thing to MW

[wicked nacelle]

after you finish a new construction go back and check your power and see if you still have the 50% buffer and if not, make some more 🙂

[quiet gust]

spire coast diluted fuel?

[hard ivy]

Exactly. Plus, it's MW, not mw, and a kMW isn't a thing either. 3 different mistakes

[shy mulch]

I don't remember what I was using for power then, I've gone bigger now just for the sake of it

[wicked nacelle]

the way the buildings progress, if you build power as you build new buildings, they will keep themselves equal really well. But if you build a lot of power early you will waste a lot of time/resources because you don't have the better tools yet

[quiet gust]

(the k was to indicate the thousand i think)

[hard ivy]

That's now how units work. Yes, k is 1000, but it's attached to the unit, not the number, and it can only be added to base units, which the MW is not

[pure robin]

fair enough, i'm only using 4.1k right now but i just started oil so i'm expecting trains and the manufacturer stuff to take a ton

[quiet gust]

it was attached to the number

[hard ivy]

Which is technically not correct

[quiet gust]

true

[wicked nacelle]

the amount of power stuff takes general matches how late it comes in the game progression. Trains take power mostly based on how many trains you have (but each station takes some too)

[pure robin]

i meant 10k MW, or 10 GW, i just forgot the exact name, and most metrics irl are (metric)h hence why i got mixed up.

[shy mulch]

Is it just me or does the GW vs KMW debate happen about 5 times a day, every day

[quiet gust]

fair

the next level up is tw (1000 gw) for reference

[hard ivy]

Because the game doesn't compress its units and people do it themselves (half the time incorrectly)

[wicked nacelle]

I'll sometimes type it out for comparisons sake... 9000 MW vs 900 MW is easier for me to see that one is 10x the other. but I wouldn't say 9k mw

[quiet gust]

and apparently a petawatt is next but nobody can get there

[wicked nacelle]

petadoggo

[shy mulch]

I do agree with that format

[shy mulch]

Terawatt would be after GW

[tall lantern]

kilodoggo

[hard ivy]

You can get 0.019 PW lol

[quiet gust]

i meant after tw

[wicked nacelle]

yes, but TW are achievable

[shy mulch]

yes, I can confirm it definitely is 🙂

[quiet gust]

i can confirm my plan has 2.84 tw which i didnt even intend on happening

[wicked nacelle]

I used to have like 1.2TW but I needed those sloops

[shy mulch]

TW*

[hard ivy]

Actually, question, do y'all think max power records should allow storing waste?

[quiet gust]

no imo it should be infinitely sustainable without hhujman intervention

[shy mulch]

How do you define infinite? I'm pretty sure I could build enough storage to outlast humans as a species on earth

[quiet gust]

theoreticazl infinite

[shy mulch]

"effectively infinite"

[quiet gust]

im gud at spelling lol

[shy mulch]

thoerinsdcnoincal enfooiunvinfite

[hard ivy]

Because obviously stocking up isn't allowed, because that's not sustainable, but waste is not fully sustainable either. But unlike stocking up, you can theoretically just keep adding more storage and keep the power at that level for however long anyone would care to

[quiet gust]

fair

i am a storing waste phobe however

[slate python]

What is the fastest way to get from teir 0 to teir 3

[hard ivy]

Rush blade runners and parachute, then loot crash sites?

[shy mulch]

Like speedrun type fastest? Or new person wants to get to tier 3 sooner type fastest?

[quiet gust]

start on rocky so ur closer to the doggo cave

[slate python]

New person

[hard ivy]

On the other hand, you also could stock up enough fuel for 1000s of hours of runtime 🤔

[shy mulch]

Follow lots of guides and youtube tutorials

[gilded goblet]

Is there a unique item limit on dim depo

[willow glen]

Don’t be afraid to use lots of Containers Feeding Assemblers. Logistics takes time, running is faster to a point. I usually use that till I get past fuel

[gilded goblet]

so I could put literally every item in the game in there

[quiet gust]

with that logic at some point you kinda vbreak limits. I think the only reasonable argument you could make is by sttoring waste, not really any other exceptions

[hard ivy]

Actually, correction, idk how it'd work with mods. Maybe it breaks after the 1000th item. But in vanilla, you can definitely put in all the item kinds

[gilded goblet]

I was mainly asking if I could basically just shift click my entire inventory into it and forget about it

[willow glen]

hmm, I do wonder, assuming you use all the uranium on the map into uranium waste and store it, how long you could run. My guess is probably around 100,000 hours lol

[shy mulch]

yes, sort of, there is an upload speed limit and you can only queue 5 unique items at a time

[gilded goblet]

yea that i'm fine with

[quiet gust]

well you would do plutonium waste as i t nets power

i dont think ficsonium can even gross power though

[willow glen]

oh in practice you’d actually be best off sinking plutonium rods and not dealing with waste at all because making more containers is a waste of time.

But I’m interested in the theory

[wicked nacelle]

I bet it's WAAAAAAAAAY longer than that

[quiet gust]

no i measn may as well burn the plutonium as it condenses the waste

[wicked nacelle]

There is a LOT of volume in the world available to stack containers

[hard ivy]

The 19TW max stores less than 1000 waste/min (I think it was 850ish). That's 1 container every 24-30 minutes of runtime. Totally feasible to add a few hundred storage every few hundred hours. Especially because after doing that, there'd be absolutely nothing left to do

[willow glen]

oh it’s gotta be less than 10 million I would think, you can fill a stack in a pretty reasonable timeframe

[hard ivy]

The game would probably start lagging before you run out of space

[wicked nacelle]

let's say a container is 8x16M right? And the map is 6000x8000M. That's 375,000 containers just 1 tall.

[hard ivy]

They're 5x11

[gilded goblet]

Dim depo is so fucking good

[wicked nacelle]

so 872727

before stacking them

[gilded goblet]

once I get jetpack i'll be in love

[quiet gust]

imagine the game without them (aka everything before 1.0)

[hard ivy]

Assuming 2km of height, that's 200M containers

[quiet gust]

(if you are super lucky u can get one early)

[wicked nacelle]

it really wasn't that bad. you just had to plan a little bit before. I used the "todo list" thingy much more to make sure I had the right stuff.

[hard ivy]

But the early jetpack fuel sux

[slate python]

What are assemblers

[wicked nacelle]

parachute is just as good or better than early jetpack 🙂

!wikisearch assembler

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=assembler

[hard ivy]

Parachute can't go up vertical walls, only diagonal ones

[wicked nacelle]

how good is the early jetpack fuel at going up vertical walls? 🙂

[willow glen]

It’s the only way to make smart plating

[hard ivy]

Better than the parachute that's for sure.

But probably worse than ladders 😆

[wicked nacelle]

but neither is better than ramps... which is the same for both 🙂

oh yeah... I never use ladders. I always ramp

[shy mulch]

Just did a quick bit of maths, max uranium waste you can end up with is approx 2500/min unless you squeeze a bit more out by using sam to convert bauxite unto more uranium. At that rate you're filling a ISC about every 10 minutes. I have a blueprint with 120 ISC which would take 20 hours to fill. I could stack 40 of those blueprints on top of each other before reaching the top of the map, so that's 800 hours in the footprint of a single mk2 blueprint. Now repeat that for the entire ocean

[quiet gust]

stackasble conveyor poles

[wicked nacelle]

just jump/build/jump/build?

[willow glen]

So putting it all together, 125 stacks of 872,727 containers filled in 24 minutes each is roughly 43.6 Million hours of runtime. Less some space for the logistics required, so an even 43 million I bet

[wicked nacelle]

I believe that

[hard ivy]

Max Uwaste from 2100 uranium and no sloops or SAM is 2520 exactly

About 5x that with sloops and SAM involved iirc

[shy mulch]

I calculated 2530, maybe I typod somewhere 🙂

[willow glen]

ya so the only part about my initial 100,000 hour guess was “I’ll definitely have a new PC by then”

[gilded goblet]

well I think I'm closer to tier 5 than getting lucky so

[dusk siren]

losing my mind trying to find the mercer sphere at something like 661, -772... it's underground but I've been scouring the area trying to find cave access for like an hour

[hard ivy]

1 in 1000 on an alpha hog spawn iirc

[quiet gust]

go to scim and turn on cave view

the thicker lines are entrances

[hard ivy]

And then you have to kill the bastard too

[quiet gust]

i thought it was reg hogs

[dusk siren]

oh that's handy

[hard ivy]

They're dashed technically. But zoomed out they're just thick

[shy mulch]

Words for my gravestone

[hard ivy]

Johnny is a regular hog but I think it's an alpha hog spawnpoint

[quiet gust]

ah

[gilded goblet]

how many items/m is the max speed dim depo

[quiet gust]

240

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch johnny

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=johnny

[quiet gust]

but you can stack multiple per item

[gilded goblet]

Jesus

i'm at 60 rn

[daring vapor]

GUYS why isnt my Dimensional Inventory Depot thingy not show in my inventory

[quiet gust]

you ned 97 spheres for max upgrades and there are normally 306

[gilded goblet]

and have the 12.5 and 6% speed boosts left

[hushed solstice]

Hello

[hard ivy]

Yeah, it's an alpha spawn. At least according to the wiki

[hushed solstice]

Does anyone here have problem with inventory slots not applying?

[gilded goblet]

I just need the sam fluctuators

[hushed solstice]

I unlocked cars that should give me +3 slots, i don't got anything, now i unlocked +6 in mam, i dont got it too

anyone else? or only i got it bugged?

[shy mulch]

90% of "hey, this weird thing is happening, anyone else get that?" questions can be resolved by closing the game and opening it again

[hushed solstice]

Yes, i did it like 5 times

[hard ivy]

In that case it's not. Pretty sure everyone who skipped/didn't skip onboarding got that (I don't remember which one)

[hushed solstice]

Also tryed loading save, older save and latest all over again (also for comparision if i got those slots or not) and i confirmed i have nothing

[hard ivy]

One of these 2 gives more slots than it should and then you don't get a few of the first upgrades

[hard ivy]

You should have 78 slots after all upgrades

[hushed solstice]

Wait

I record it on older save where i dont researched in mam

[hard ivy]

Unless it's a pre-1.0 save, then possibly 81

[quiet gust]

why

[hushed solstice]

It is new game on 1.1

[hard ivy]

Something that used to give +3 slots now doesn't give any

Or +3 instead of +6

Or something like that

It's stupid, because the inventory is 9 wide

81 was 9x9

Now we've got a stupid chunk missing in the corner

It bothered me so much that I save edited the extra 3 slots back in