satisfactory

[hasty peak]

[dense violet]

The person in question hasn't replied in ages so I think it's a bit pointless

[little sonnet]

I'm making regular ammo for the rifle and turbofuel for fuel, the regular ammo needs the smokeless powder so I use the heavy oil residue from plastic and rubber production

[livid kernel]

pressing "R" is the only way I know

[dense violet]

ok, clock one machine making turbo fuel to send it directly to your ammunition.
Then clock another machine to make up for it for your generators. The simplest more reliable fix

[cosmic laurel]

thanks that worked

[brisk stream]

is there like triangle foundations

[livid kernel]

awesome shop

[little sonnet]

thanks for the help

[dense violet]

pinged you a very rough diagram

[brisk stream]

i dont see any

[livid kernel]

IIRC, there's 2 types, not in game to verify. But I think quarter pipes pack and corner ramp pack in the foundations tab have triangular foundations

[brisk stream]

damn, my hexagon base is ruined :dface:

[little sonnet]

Alright yeah that makes sense, appreciate it

[dense violet]

selectively merging and clocking groups of machines to manage logistics is your most powerful tool 🙂
especially for pipes where making branches in the pipes can cause flow issues

[livid kernel]

I have a refinery making 13.333333.... fuel a minute only to sink just for my excess. Tickets were honestly the best use I could find for that small amount of crude

[last tartan]

guys, i have a very big issue

[placid stirrup]

Your partner doesn't want to play with you?

[last tartan]

i am not satisfied with my factory

it isnt satisfactory

[wicked nacelle]

diamonds

[livid kernel]

honestly, get used to it

[placid stirrup]

I reject that sentiment

[livid kernel]

about 2 phases too early lmao

[last tartan]

mines a big old brick...

terrible placement and all

and the sad part is that i just built it

and got EVERY last resource rigged up to it

[placid stirrup]

Every great artist has started with a blank canvas

[livid kernel]

I meant it like I am in the process of rebuilding all my factories, and I'm now "okay" with the layouts, but not fully satisfied with them and will likely change them again. It's an almost never ending process in these games lol

[last tartan]

welp, with the introduction of blueprints it should be a help remaking them

im gonna make a huge concrete foundation blueprint now

on second thought, imma use base foundation

[placid stirrup]

I've started nearly every factory with a massive square platform

[last tartan]

i am curious how much bigger the bp designers get

[ruby mountain]

6x6x6 without mods (24m)

[livid kernel]

I haven't messed with bps yet, but is that like full foundations? so 24m of height?

[ruby mountain]

yep

[livid kernel]

cool

[last tartan]

ive done enough scavenging to collect the stuff for a mk2 designer

im looking for a new factory swatch color, forest green appeals to me

you guys got any color suggestions?

[livid kernel]

oh @dense violet I rebuilt the pipe holes and they worked this time, no idea why they weren't working for me the other day

the factory is now unspaghettied

[livid kernel]

I color based off what they make, like my heavy oil refineries are purple, my turbo fuel ones are red etc

[last tartan]

interesting. I've always had the tendency to do everything based off of the same color so i don't bother to change it too often, ive always had everything a slightly darker FICSIT orange

[livid kernel]

I just find it easier to spot problems that way. If my plastic is not enough or backing up, look at the blue buildings first

[last tartan]

The power consumption on these refineries is absurd

[livid kernel]

the fuel gens more than make up for it though

[last tartan]

haven’t got there quite yet

My entire world is fed off of 8 coal generators and 4 batteries I threw in a shed

[atomic notch]

its cooler to have em all the same, mine are matte black red

[last tartan]

what’s the recipe for the mk2 blueprint designer

[livid kernel]

yeah, that phase is a little rough. I'd recommend starting the fuel power unlock next. Then you won't care about refineries. 1 plant will power 8 1/3 refineries and the production line for the fuel is like 4 plants or something

[livid kernel]

10 Heavy frames, 20 computers, 100 rubber, 100 concrete

[last tartan]

oh i was so confused, i opened it on the wiki and it said 10 frames 😅

[livid kernel]

yeah I typoed lol

[sick dragon]

What's the setup power grid wise to separate batteries from the network where they'd charge but not discharge unless I pull the switch? Power grid > input switch > battery > output switch?

[wicked nacelle]

either just F the power line or use a smart switch so you can turn it on from anywhere.

it's the same either way -- turns one grid into two once the batteries are charged

[brisk stream]

how many mercer spheres are on the map

[bold lily]

298

[livid kernel]

300 ish

[brisk stream]

holy fuck

[inner echo]

Enough that I use them for decoration?

[livid kernel]

i think it's high 290s

I think there's 201 to play with after unlocking everything in the MAM IIRC

[bold lily]

correct

[placid stirrup]

You can certainly run out if you double up on certain items, but you could also be comfortably conservative and use em as decor, yeah

[lime ermine]

Wait until you see the power draw of a quantum encoder

[livid kernel]

yeah, 30s not that bad really. The only thing I've seen that I think is high in relation to when you unlock it is the water extractors

those are high af compared to everything else in that tier range

[wicked nacelle]

the game gives you additional tools to generate power as it makes buildings take more power.

[livid kernel]

agreed, I just think 20 for the water is a lot when you need it running to even make coal power, and they take more than a bio burner each. At least with the refineries you likely already have them set up and giving fuel before you unlock them, and even then they are only like 1/8 of a fuel gen each. Every 8 coal gens almost takes an entire gen just to give you the water needed to keep them running

[wicked nacelle]

I've never really been frustrated by that -- maybe just because I'm so excited to have coal power 🙂

[livid kernel]

I'm fine with it too, I just think it's high in relation to the other tiers lol

[wicked nacelle]

my old aluminum plant is almost gone!!!

[livid kernel]

I don't think it should change, just meant it's the only one I've seen I think is high for when you unlock it, but it unlocks so much more potential that it's fine to be high

[livid kernel]

if you want to open your world, I'm bored and will help you delete shit

[dense violet]

that's what starter factories with no solidified end goals look like, it's normal

[inner echo]

Heh...my number 1 reason for using blueprints: Dismantling blueprints.

[wicked nacelle]

DM

[fathom shuttle]

Me too

[brittle torrent]

if multiple machines have 100% of the required imput but are too far from each other and the conveyors too long, will it prevent the factory from making 100%?

[fathom shuttle]

It will just take a little longer for the factory to reach 100%

[inner echo]

Think of a long belt as a storage container with a delayed output.

[cosmic laurel]

am i gonna need smart plating for later phases or can i demo the factory

[vague sparrow]

Youll need it
for modular engines
if it's a small starter supply, you could probably diutch it and build a higher throughput in later stages

[cosmic laurel]

i probs will later, its 10/min which will handle the 1000 i need for phase 3 easily

[vague sparrow]

yeah after the 1000 for the elevator you wont need that many for a while, you can divert the production into modular engines which you will need a ton of in phase 4

I thyink it's 2500 modular engines for the propulsion item

having 1 industrial container filled with plating will get you through that

give or take

[split pewter]

can sm1 help me with my problem, the truck loading thing wont load my tractor

?

[white dawn]

Are you trying to do it manually, while recording a path? (Or just manually in general?)

[split pewter]

im trying to do it manually

[white dawn]

Okay, yeah, that can act a bit weird, but if you're doing it in service of an automated route, that doesn't matter: the route recording totally ignores your own manual load/unload

[split pewter]

solution?

[white dawn]

Once you finish recording a path, you'll see a yellow "pause node" get put on every truck station you pass through. Whenever the vehicle hits those, the station will do whatever the station's configured to do

You can edit the pause node to set how long the vehicle stays there; the station will transfer things at a rate of 2 stacks/second

[split pewter]

what about manual :P

[white dawn]

I think part of the weirdness with manual loading/unloading is that the station's configuration can get in the way, but I've never really investigated since manual loading/unloading is rarely what I care about

[white dawn]

Honestly no clue, I'm afraid. As I say, you might want to make sure that the station is at least set to the proper "load/unload" setting based on what you're trying to do

[split pewter]

its on load, its even saying "Press F to load cargo into Tractor"

[white dawn]

The automated routes work great and do whatever the station's configured as, so I don't have much more advice than that

[split pewter]

ok

[white dawn]

Okay, then I'm not sure. :D As I say, everything works fine with an automated tractor; once the tractor heads into the station (with the yellow pause node), the station will do what it's been told to do

[split pewter]

k

[white dawn]

I agree the situation with the manual load/unload isn't ideal; you're far from the first person to run into that

[split pewter]

ok

imma just rebuild the tracter atp

[white dawn]

One bit of unsolicied advice: after recording a path, make sure you didn't end up with any blue pause nodes on your route. That can happen if you stopped for a little bit at any point while recording. There's a bug related to the blue pause nodes which could end up making the tractor get stuck there forever (until you manually intervene)

The yellow pause nodes at the truck stations don't have that issue, though

[split pewter]

ok

[white dawn]

(If you do find a blue pause node, you can just go up to it and delete it)

[split pewter]

k

also where does the fuel go if you use it in a vehicle

the containers specifically

[white dawn]

The containers from packaged fuel just disappear entirely. :D FICSIT doesn't waste!

[split pewter]

how though...

if they disappear why cant nuclear waste??

[white dawn]

Burning those sweet sweet containers for a bit of extra oomph

[split pewter]

fair enough

they are made from plastic (which is mostly oil

[reef grotto]

if I OC a 60/min miner to 200%, would it be smarter to make 4 smelters at 30/min or 2x60/min?

[split pewter]

if you have resources, 4 smelters, if you have the crystals, 2 smelters at 200%

[reef grotto]

ok

[fathom shuttle]

I’m gonna beat the game tomorrow probably

[split pewter]

what phase

[fathom shuttle]

All I need to do now is to get crystal oscillators production and alclad aluminum sheets going

[fathom shuttle]

Phase 5

[split pewter]

probably then

im on 3 and im struggling 🙏

[fathom shuttle]

It gets easier

[split pewter]

hopefully

im still gonna get shocked from phase 4 requirements prob

[fathom shuttle]

Yea phase 4 requirements are tough

[split pewter]

harder than 3?

[fathom shuttle]

Definitely

[split pewter]

🙏

[fathom shuttle]

It’s not really harder but there is a pretty steep jump in complexity

[smoky forge]

the more you automate the easier it gets

[brisk stream]

how do i install blueprints from "satisfactory blueprints.com"

where do i put them

[fathom shuttle]

Just focus on getting stuff like aluminum and plastic&rubber going

[split pewter]

i have plastic and rubber automated from a far place with trains going to and from + some fuel coming from the same place (theres still like 2 oil depots not being used there) and ion have aluminum yet

[inner echo]

Near your savefiles is a 'blueprints' directory with subfolders for each save. If you have already made a blueprint for the save.

[brisk stream]

okay, thanks!

[barren leaf]

is it worth using turbofuel for fuel generators?

[split pewter]

100%

if you can automate it you'll have way too much

i have basically 2 isc's full of it

[silver skiff]

turbo fuel is fun

[split pewter]

for sure

its a worse rocket fuel basically

thats also cheap

[barren leaf]

hmmm, seems like i'll have to transfer compact coal to my oil product place then

[silver skiff]

i think ill probably start on getting through phase 3 tommorow

or not tommorow on friday

[split pewter]

or just transport it into a place thats in the middle

I JUST GOT HIT BY A CAR GOING 60 KM/H

[silver skiff]

i just had a train running to my oil place

[dense violet]

so, every processing step past fuel effectively turns other resources into more oil
because you can always just make more diluted fuel right? Is it 'worth it'? eh, you can just build another diluted fuel station elsewhere and not have to drag sulfur and coal to you

[brisk stream]

do you know which sub section its in

I assume in comminuty resources but what after

[inner echo]

Use your filesystem search. Make sure you've created a blueprint in your save. Then exit the game and search for 'blueprints'

[fathom shuttle]

I’m very close to research all MAM trees

All that’s left is the turbo rifle ammo and alien power matrix research

Then I’m done with this

Once I get the achievement all that’s left is unlocking all milestones (only got one) and saving the day

Oh and the golden nut statue achievement

[daring stag]

950 tickets, only 50 left 🙏

might be sad when I get this last achievement though

[silent aurora]

You save up on using oil for other oil hungry processes. Some alts eat rubber by the truckload (looking at you, heatsink)
Aluminum also eats quite a bit of oil and spoilers, oil is also usable for diamonds if you arent using quartz or coal

[dense violet]

sure? you can say the same thign about other resources too. it's a trade off.

Effectively like SAM conversion

and there is a LOT of oil on the map

[silent aurora]

Which is entirely fair.

To each, their own logistics.

[dense violet]

diluted just saves you a bunch onf transport. No fuss no muss

[silent aurora]

Me viciously about to transport everything via dune buggy with basic coal

[split pewter]

transporting coal to a coal depot that fuels the coal transporter...

[silent aurora]

Genius

Using a dunebuggy to transport all the coal i need to a central hub so i can route more buggies to it to refuel

What could possibly go wrong

dont do this, this is what dune buggies are NOT EVER SUPPOSED TO DO

[barren leaf]

oh you mean residual fuel? i guess i could yeah but thats gotta be like 3 different rubber refineries or more for plastic which seems like a lot of product. Unless im misunderstanding

[dense violet]

no I mean diluted fuel

oil -> Heavy oil residue -> diluted packaged fuel

those are 2 alts that really outpout fuel at higher rates

you could easily get to the last tiers of the game on a diluted fuel station

[daring stag]

yeah I have 150GW on rocket fuel

I don't even use 100GW when finished phase 5 and even now at full sink everywhere slooped I don't need that much power

[daring stag]

30 millions points per ticket

[smoky forge]

i suggest start making big factories lmao 😆

[daring stag]

maybe if I do another playthrough

I feel it's a bit a bummer that all the tech you unlock tier 8 & 9 is basically useless as you finish the game and all achievements

making some quantum superfactory powered by nuclear sounds nice, it's just not goal driven

[hasty tulip]

does anyone have a diagram on how to make a 4 to 1 splitter? I think that's how you say it

[inner echo]

1 to four split? That's just 3 splitters. You mean one to 5? That's the hard one...

[daring stag]

damn some guy finished phase 5 in 20h (from scratch, new game)

that was 1 year ago maybe someone beat him

[reef basin]

4 to 1 is more like a merger
if you mean 1 to 4, you just split to two, and both again to two

or do a manifold

--S--S--S--S
  |  |  |  |

[astral knot]

what is a manifold

[dense violet]

the diagram he just shared

[astral knot]

and why is it called that

[reef basin]

row of splitters, like the diagram

and it's called like that because it originates from real-life manifold

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifold_(fluid_mechanics)

[astral knot]

ok today i will put 50 billion refineries

[hasty tulip]

I meant to say 1 to 5 , but would this still work with 5 outputs?

[dense violet]

infinite outputs

[reef basin]

manifold works with any number of outputs

you only need to have fast enough belt to carry the items the machines need

[hasty tulip]

okay thanks

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1367054662296928306/1386635988104773742/guh_comp.gif

[astral knot]

chat do i use more crude oil to make plastic or use my polymer resin

[dense violet]

whatever is more convenient for you

[brisk stream]

found a inf jet pack glitch lol

[astral knot]

because right now ive just been dumping polymer resin into the awesome shop

[dense violet]

it's a decent source of early points

[brisk stream]

start to fly then press p - r - r

[reef basin]

we're not "chat", this is not twitch

[inner echo]

You want the recycled plastic/rubber recipes once you need big plastic/rubber.

[dense violet]

You're not twitchy?

[brisk stream]

or just 1 r

[daring stag]

my very first base (background right) compared to my last base (quantum coupon farmers). it's funny how I didn't evolve at all in terms of organization https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1398939889512484965/1400001828552310816/Screenshot_20250730-082657.png?ex=688b0cce&is=6889bb4e&hm=bfb25fde036a521b449298fda0b26753385b60a08e27c12f7c592331a15977a1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1596&height=898

[brisk stream]

Awesome!

im fucking learning triginomity at 2:30am for pretty shapes in factory game

all for ficsit 🫡

[daring stag]

trigonometry is really good to know I don't know your profession but as a web/mobile app dev I often had to use it

[brisk stream]

i am 15

😭

[dense violet]

that's a pretty normal age to learn it?

[daring stag]

well if you envision a career in STEM it will be useful outside the game no doubt

[brisk stream]

i ahvent even done geomotry yet

and im still brainrotted from the summer

[astral knot]

i hope 3 plastic and rubber refineries will be enough

[brisk stream]

havent done any math except for satisfactory math for the past 2 months

[dense violet]

you'll probably get to it this year then 🙂

[reef basin]

enough for what?

[inner echo]

That sounds like my first oil I throw down on the dirt just to fulfill research/tiers.

And it is indeed enough for just that.

[astral knot]

just for stuff

[reef basin]

and the reward for most generic answer goes to...

🙂

[astral knot]

im gonna have my train come to my refineries all collect stuff so i want her to have stuff to collect

[inner echo]

Once you get to computers you will have built many 10s doing recycled rubber and plastic

[astral knot]

computers take so long to make id probably need like 5 more manufacturers

[daring stag]

the current speedrun world record is 8h 39minutes to complete project assembly from scratch (passive mode creatures, no glitch/mod/bug). wtf!

[inner echo]

First oil is always 2 of each doing plastic/rubber direct from crude. THe heavy residue turned into coke and sunk.

[astral knot]

is coke useful

[inner echo]

Is literally what I throw down on the sand as soon as I can.

Coke is useful later.

[reef basin]

where did you find that?

[daring stag]

https://www.speedrun.com/satisfactory

[inner echo]

Well...it can be. Later you don't make it unless you want/need it.

[cursive crane]

Its real useful for long late nights but other than that its use is debatable

[daring stag]

there is video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRu_odTBbdo

it's crazy

[reef basin]

yeah, but which category?

[daring stag]

any% but the video isn't listed

but I found it on youtube

[reef basin]

any% has a record of 7h50m

[daring stag]

he linked no video though

oh sorry he has

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq5KElDeu4w 7h50m that's insane

[astral knot]

im assuming you cant do manifolds with pipes

[bold lily]

you can

you just use a pipe junction as a merger/splitter

[sterile blade]

What is your assumption based on? ^^

[astral knot]

it looks like they can pump fluids back into the outputs of the machines

[bold lily]

they don't, expecially if the machine is running

[reef basin]

you can and you should

[honest night]

I am so bad at keeping things orderly

[astral knot]

ok so i need 200 polymer resin/min but i can only do 120

[fathom shuttle]

I can probably do it in 2 hours

[fiery violet]

@brisk stream am I the only person that gets your meme?

[cursive crane]

Not a meme. Its a #screenshots of a crappy youtube ai warning

[fiery violet]

Not fully meme, but I get it

[cursive crane]

Its a nose snort funny at most that doesn't belong there

[astral knot]

i produce rubber faster than plastic

since rubber only needs 4 polymer resin

[reef basin]

they are made at same rate tho

[astral knot]

i produce too little polymer resin

[reef grotto]

input isn't as high as demand

[reef basin]

underclock the machine then

[reef grotto]

that doesn't fix the problem?

[reef basin]

it does? input will be as high as demand

[astral knot]

what if i add another refinery to make more resin

[reef grotto]

that would fix the problem, or OC your current refineries

[reef basin]

both approaches fix the problem lol

[reef grotto]

underclocking the rubber/plasitc doesn't though

[reef basin]

just depends if you want more or less production

[reef grotto]

becuase they're not getting the resources they need

[reef basin]

and if you underclock them to match the amount of resources they are getting... it fixes the problem

[reef grotto]

if they wanna reduce demand, then that's the route, but for output of final product just increase supply of inputs

[reef grotto]

no, it really doesn't

[reef basin]

the machine will run at 100% and not stop. No problem

[reef grotto]

if at 100% i make 30 plates a minute, but don't ahev the ingots to go into the plates, but I need 30/min for down the line, it doesn't fix the problem of not getting enough iron plates

sure it reduces how much the producer makes

[reef basin]

this is processing of a byproduct tho

[reef grotto]

i'm not even gonna keep going

[sterile blade]

You can keep undercloking down the chain too (until you have more input)

[reef grotto]

i am tired and alr pissed at my mother in law, so i'm js gonna end here

[reef grotto]

or OC from the initial producer up

[shy mulch]

What is the actual problem you're trying to solve, exactly?

[reef basin]

the problem of "I'm making more of X than Y" is solved by either making more of Y or making less of X
both solutions work

[reef grotto]

@shy mulch

[sterile blade]

That can count as being able to provide enough input

[shy mulch]

ok, too little for what, what problem is it causing

[reef basin]

the problem is two messages above that

[reef grotto]

okay if you explained it like that at first, it would have made more sense

[dense cave]

are... floating power bugs a known glitch

[shy mulch]

still feels like we're solving an X-Y situation here, you're producing more rubber than plastic, ok, and why is that a problem?

do some RCA here, what is the root problem

[sterile blade]

Are you perhaps using a hoverpack, trains or geothermal? ^^

[dense cave]

no, i chopped a tree with a power bug on it, now its floating

pretty interesting tho

[sterile blade]

Oh.. I thought you meant a game bug 😆
Yeah, power slugs have fixed positions in the world. It's normal to see them floating if you remove what they were placed on

[shy mulch]

power slugs don't have physics, they don't move, regardless of anything, if it was on a tree, removing the tree won't affect the position of the slug, just build a foundation or something to go up and get it

[dense cave]

intended feature or bug?

[shy mulch]

I wouldn't say it's either, just something that nobody cared enough to implement

You could call it a bug if you want, but it would be easy enough to write some alien-lore around it to explain the phenomenon

[dense cave]

oh

[astral knot]

Nightdust Station: Grab Coal and Electronics (2 freight cars for coal, just one for electronics)
Serpentsnest Station: Unload 1 coal car and electronics car, load sulfur
Shadowsobs Station: Unload final coal car and sulfur, load plastic and rubber (in as much cars as possible)
Serpentsnest Station: No stops unless i somehow need rubber
Nightdust Station: Unload plastic and rubber. Load coal. And it all starts over again.
can i get away with just using 3 freight cars for this or am i gonna need 4

oh my god i just realized you cant load and unload the same car at the same time

agony

[reef basin]

yeah you need either two stations or two cars

it would be kinda weird anyway - you'd load the same thing as you unloaded (or vice versa)

[astral knot]

i wonder if i can make like uhhh

idk what theyre called but like if the track split into two paths

ok so

maybe, one train carries the coal and electronics to Serpentsnest and another train carries plastic and rubber to Serpentsnest and Sulfur and Coal to Shadowobs

aw damn it. i cant load in electronics into a freight station and also put sulfur in it

oh my god this is hard

[dense violet]

you should be able to? are the items heading to the same destination?

[astral knot]

ok maybe i do need 4 freights for this

[dense violet]

depends how much you're trying ot move on a single platform. Are you trying to do 2 full belts or something?

[astral knot]

Train 1:
Nightdust: [Load Coal] - [Load Coal] - [Load Electronics] - [Unload Plastic and Rubber]
Serpentsnest: - [Unload Coal] - [Unload Coal] - [Unload Electronics] - [Load Plastic & Rubber]

Train 2:
Shadowsobs: [???] - [Unload Coal] - [???] - [Load Plastic & Rubber]
Serpentsnest: [???] - [Load Coal] - [???] - [Unload Plastic & Rubber]

[sturdy moat]

new to server, is there a bug reporting section or how would i report a bug

[astral knot]

i somehow need to transfer sulfur from Serpentsnest to Shadowsobs

[dense violet]

#faq

[dense violet]

how much of each going onto the platforms?

[astral knot]

Realistically i probably wont get much electronics in Train 1 but coal cars will most likely be full

[dense violet]

Are you doing more than 1 belt per platform of coal?

[astral knot]

yeah

[dense violet]

that's probably one of yoru problems

you can't do 2 belts per platform

it's physically impossible

2 full belts.

[astral knot]

i have like 4 industrial storages worth of coal to store it from the freights

[dense violet]

and generally you're lucky if you can do 1 full belt

[sturdy moat]

i cant seem to find how to make a post, oh well its a pretty easy bug to notice so im sure they already know of it

[dense violet]

doesn't matter

[sturdy moat]

just playing for the first time and you can see through the ground if you jump against a rock/cliff wall

[astral knot]

the second coal car wont actually store it in the same place as the first car

since Train 2 will take that coal and bring it to Shadowsobs

[dense violet]

it happens

[dense violet]

I feel like none of this is getting through to you. So gl!

[astral knot]

i have no clue what im doing

😭

[dense violet]

you also aren't replying in a useful way to tryign to sort out what you're doing

you'd want to take this to #math-and-meta or make a post in #1038092680493801533 because I suspect you'd have to revamp yoru whole system

and yo ucan also post images there

[sturdy moat]

im so confused but the tutorial is pretty good, im sure you can look up on reddit or youtube for anything post tutorial

[dense violet]

there's a number of things about signals you can find but throughput is harder to find. Equations on the wiki. But it sounds like they're trying to move more per platform than it can handle

[sturdy moat]

i come from factorio so i had to use reddit alot for that, found some good help, also fandom pages are of some help at times

[dense violet]

just a quick tip on that - toss out most of factorio impulses. Design is a very different thing here

[mint jetty]

Is there a reliable way to transport materials early game? I've just started phase 1 of the space elevator.

[shy mulch]

do not use fandom, ever

[sturdy moat]

ive noticed but its still an automation type of game ive noticed, similarties yes, but still very different

[dense violet]

resources are infinite and constant, and production is static. It's much more about creating your own goals and how you solve your problems

[dense violet]

belts

[hard ivy]

Belts

[sturdy moat]

i mainly used it for terraria

[shy mulch]

fandom is evil

[dense violet]

in this case the fandom wiki is out of date by a couple years now

[hard ivy]

Terarria also has a .gg wiki
Why would you use fandom

[mint jetty]

Damn, here I am hoping I wouldn't have to stretch belts across my entire world.

[dense violet]

theres lots of places where you have all the iron and copper you need pre phase 1?

[shy mulch]

You don't, all the materials you need for early game are close by. Find nearer nodes if you are finding yourself going too far

[hard ivy]

In the early game, everything is within like 500m. That's nowhere near the entire world.

[dense violet]

phase one is like... a pre tutorial

[sturdy moat]

oh i didnt know about that, ive only played with my friend so i wasnt super serious into terraria

[mint jetty]

I've used up the nodes nearby for basic resources and I don't know if I want to switch them out for bigger factories like rotor production as I don't know if I'll need the basic iron resources.

[astral knot]

just got rail signals

[dense violet]

just keep moving forward. It's an early tutorial

[fiery stratus]

sup yall

[dense violet]

when you set up coal power you'll probably want to rip everything up anywya

[mint jetty]

Great. Love that.

Thanks for the help

[dense violet]

well what you're making now is almost certainly a giant mess 😛 with temp power

[fiery stratus]

unlock overclocking you can 2.5 x every node

[dense violet]

automated power is a game changer. Literally.

[fiery stratus]

real

[mint jetty]

I think I've already unlocked overclocking

[dense violet]

good. A lot of people ignore the MAM. It's got all the useful goodies

[fiery stratus]

have u overclocked your miners

[dense violet]

pre phase 1 tends to not have a lot of OCing

[astral knot]

screw it. this train will have like 6 freight cars

[mint jetty]

Not yet, I've just unlocked overclocking.

Dont really see a need yet either, im pretty much at the max of what t1 stuff can do (I think)

[fiery stratus]

imo trains are uesless bc id rather build a convayor or a drone

[shy mulch]

overclocking miners is game changing though, you can have x2.5 the resources

[mint jetty]

What abouts are drones and such unlocked.

[fiery stratus]

bc of the consistency

[mint jetty]

Once I unlock t1 fully, I'll probs overlock anyways.

[fiery stratus]

phase like 3

[mint jetty]

Thats not bad

[shy mulch]

yeah you really don't need to explore too far at the stage you're at

[bold lily]

Drones are Milestone 1, Tier 8 for reference

[fiery stratus]

uhhhh shoreeeee

[mint jetty]

I mean the only place I want to go right now are the 3 pure iron nodes above the spawn location (first spawn)

[astral knot]

the thing im trying to do with my trains is probably so simple and im jsut being stupid with it

[lofty juniper]

whats the max tier

[bold lily]

Tier 9

[mint jetty]

Thats pretty long away

[fiery stratus]

yep

[mint jetty]

Ill get there eventually

[sturdy moat]

whats this glowing blue stuff, showed up at night and has little blue sparks going towards it

[fiery stratus]

thats the spiret

[shy mulch]

the world is bigger than most people realise when they start playing the game 🙂

[fiery stratus]

power slug

[mint jetty]

I really need a vehicle then huh

[fiery stratus]

no jetpack with rocket fuel

[shy mulch]

there are loads of ways to get about, just follow the MAM and unlock things as you go, you'll be fine

[mint jetty]

There are jetpacks? Damn

[shy mulch]

the ability to get about faster pairs nicely with your need to go further, as you progress through the game

[dense violet]

trains are consistent?

[fiery stratus]

not how i use them

[mint jetty]

Oh okay, thats cool. This game seems really nicely balanced.

[dense bone]

Go to the pink forest

[fiery stratus]

also they use power and convayors do not

[hard ivy]

Then that's a you issue, not a train issue

[dense violet]

so it's a PEBCAK issue

[mint jetty]

The where?

[dense bone]

You'll find 4 nuclear hogs and 5 green spiders guarding a single hard drive

[fiery stratus]

DONT

[astral knot]

ok so what if i dump everything from my trains in one big storage thing and i just distribute them with smart splitters

[dense bone]

Up in the mountains there's pink trees

[dense violet]

blade runners and zipline from the MAM are generally more useful than vehicles for exploring

the terrain is pretty terrible in lots of spots

and the jet pack

[fiery stratus]

they prob dont have any ranged wepon

[fiery stratus]

BAD IDEA

[mint jetty]

There is so much more to this game than I thought. Holy

[bold lily]

yep it's a large map

[dense bone]

Best way to do it is build power lines and bomb the bugs from above

With the electric jetpack thing

[fiery stratus]

they are pre coal power

[mint jetty]

Your telling me there are guns?

[fiery stratus]

yes but get the rebar gun first

[mint jetty]

I saw that in the MAM when I unlocked it. I thought it has something to do with building.

[dense bone]

[fiery stratus]

nope its your first ranged wepon and the amo is just a iorn rod

[hard ivy]

Hold crouch when attacking the nests

[mint jetty]

Thats good, I just happen to have tons of them

[dense bone]

Being berries or nuts too

[shy mulch]

that's what I did, and it turns to absolute chaos when you try to scale up. My system has a throughput of 8400 per minute and I have a matrix of nearly 400 smart splitters, it's an absolute monstrosity of nonsense, I wouldn't reccomend it

[mint jetty]

Anything else I should work towards ASAP?

[fiery stratus]

👍

[dense bone]

Harvest

[fiery stratus]

uhh i can help you if you want to join a call its ok if you dont

[shy mulch]

sorry 9600, not 8400

[astral knot]

im gonna make a thread in the help forums

[dense violet]

just the mam things, and unlock phase 1 for coal power

[mint jetty]

I would, but I'm in a public place right now.

[fiery stratus]

no worys

[fiery stratus]

like the other dude said coal power is a must but for now try to get solid biofuel and a chainsaw

[mint jetty]

Okay thanks.🙏 This is the most helpful community I've been in yet.

[mint jetty]

Got those already dw

[shy mulch]

Most people here are pretty nice and helpful 🙂

[sturdy moat]

are leaves effective enough for start game power

i dont seem to get wood consistantly enough and i cant scan for coal yet

[fiery stratus]

turn the leafs into biofuel

[fiery stratus]

and unlock solid biofeul

[sturdy moat]

i dont think i have normal biofuel unlocked yet

[fiery stratus]

you do try crafting it

[sturdy moat]

dont even have conveyors just yet, im working on that rn

[ivory condor]

Just be sure to unlock and switch sooner rather than later

[fiery stratus]

maby not lol

[sturdy moat]

i dont even need power at the moment i just have it set up for when i do need it

[dense violet]

if you sprint around, holding E it'll auto pick up bushes and leaves. Sprint slide jump doing that and if you get about 10,000 leaves you're probably set until coal power if you turn it to solid bio fuel

takes about 8 minutes?

(sprint slide jump is a fast way to get around)

[sturdy moat]

didnt even know your could slide, thanks

[fiery stratus]

c whilst sprinting to slide

[dense violet]

it gives you a speed boost, and you can even slide up gentle inclines

[ivory condor]

Sliding also got buffed so your faster than a vehicle now, so that's fun

[dense violet]

but only gentle ones

[sturdy moat]

noted

[bold lily]

to add on to what others have said, most of what you need is within a few minutes walking/running distance of your spawn point and you can get up to Tier 5 with that stuff. After that you will have to head further out for resources to help increase production, but what you unlock will make going back and forth much easier and you can make it much quicker with the right setup.

For reference I'm up to Tier 7 and almost everything I have is still near the first spawn point, I've only had to go further out for the next fuel source after Coal power but have also setup a mode of transport to easily go back and forth between both sites 🙂

[sturdy moat]

appreciate it, figured it out first try though, same as almost any other game with that mechanic lol

[fiery stratus]

try and get bladerunners they are cracked

[sturdy moat]

do they make you faster?

[fiery stratus]

a lot

[sturdy moat]

sick

[ivory condor]

I find it hilarious I can just slide from biome to biome and its faster than even a explorer now

[fiery stratus]

also slideing on a convayor and jumping maintais the speed of convayor pluss slide

[bold lily]

blade runners give 50% more speed, 100% more jump height, and more dampening of fall damage. You can unlock them in the Quartz tree of the MAM

[ivory condor]

Oh yes blade runners, what truly makes sliding speed op

[dense violet]

they also make you jump higher and take less fall damage

[mint jetty]

Oh damn really? Okay then I might need to sort out how I'm thinking about my production really. My aim was just to automate every material in their own respective location then use transport to move them to another location where needed. From reading these messages I take it thats not that efficient?

[sturdy moat]

will def be investing my time into those then

i love finding ways to abuse games momentum/speed mechanics

[fiery stratus]

their is b hopping to

[ivory condor]

Wait until you learn about hyper tube cannons

[fiery stratus]

id recomend building a storage room that is turbo usefull

[fiery stratus]

SHHHHHHHH

[sturdy moat]

yea i already figured out slide b hopping

[ivory condor]

That's when the real game abuse starts

[sturdy moat]

gets me going high and fast

[fiery stratus]

with hypertube cannons conected to a hypertube you can cross map in 2 mins

[mint jetty]

Like a central one? I thought about that but don't know how to get around contructing it so that its:

1. modular
2. can be improved when i get trains

[ivory condor]

I thought we all saw the video about the cannon that ends reality itself, its the lgio way

[fiery stratus]

imo trains not all that just hyper automate the convayor belt resourses so you can buld huge convayors

[bold lily]

later on it will be efficient, it's what I'm trying to setup atm with a whole redo of the factory. At the start it's best to keep them close by, you can still have iron, copper, and limestone as their own standalone factories but early on it's best to keep them close by since your means of transport are not as quick/easy compared to later stages

[fiery stratus]

mk 1 3 and 5 are so easy to get the mats for

and mk 5 is 750 items a min

[dense violet]

780

[mint jetty]

Wow thats insane

[fiery stratus]

oops

[dense violet]

anyway go actually play the game instead of getting spoiled 😛 shoo

[mint jetty]

I just really do not like the ideas of conveyors spreading everywhere

[dense violet]

just accept it while going up the tiers. You're learning

[mint jetty]

I'm asking for questions so i dont regret my choices later lmao

[fiery stratus]

let me just say the AWSOME is where you gota go to avoid that problom

[ivory condor]

Wait until you learn about the mk6 belts, its even faster

[fiery stratus]

SHHHH

[ivory condor]

Prepare to engage belt light speed

[fiery stratus]

btw clicking down on the scrolewhele selects and copys whatever building you are looking at a helpfull tip i wish i knew earlyer

[daring stag]

I finally got 100% achievements after 20days of playing on my first save 🫡 that's some binge gaming. Maybe I'll start building nice looking stuff now

[bold lily]

GG

[fiery stratus]

gg

[shy mulch]

how many hours? 100% achivements took me like 500 hours over a preiod of about 4 months, but I did "waste" a lot of time messing about and just having fun, was never really trying to "finish"

[daring stag]

190 but at least 24 must be afk, not sure if much more

afk for the golden statue

[sturdy moat]

im 1 upgrade from biomass

[fiery stratus]

w

[daring stag]

achievements are pretty easy sadly except the golden statue.. maybe they should have added stuff like generate 1TW, 20 millions sink points pm, etc

[mint jetty]

Thanks, that is amazing

[sturdy moat]

im using my wood for fuel at the moment to run my Miner > Smelter > Storage

[fiery stratus]

np

[shy mulch]

feed the wood into a constructor and turn it into biomass, then feed that into another constructor to turn it into solid biofuel, then feed that into your biomass burners, it will last a LOT longer so you spend less time collecting the wood

[sturdy moat]

im about to unlock biomass

it was jsut gonna be temporary so i can get the upgrade requirments faster

[shy mulch]

fair enough 🙂

[sturdy moat]

do you unlock more inventory space at some point? or do u just have to do mostly automation

like is there backpacks or storage upgrades

[shy mulch]

there is more storage available, but you're encouraged to automate wherever possible

[fiery stratus]

you get like tripple the base space where im at

[south sinew]

there's a fair few MAM nodes which offer increased space, and some hard drive scans also give it

[mint jetty]

@fiery stratus is it worth me automating smart plates to get phase 1 complete or should I hold off until I get coal power?

[fiery stratus]

automate them cuz you need them fore like every space elovator in some way

[dense violet]

eh, you can just feed a machien from 2 containers you manually cram items into. Much easier

you should already be automating the other parts after all

[mint jetty]

okay thanks

[mint jetty]

I need to think more about a location if im switching to coal no?

I need water and all that

[unkempt blade]

yes it's worth automating but go do coal power first 😄

[fiery stratus]

whats ur starting spot?

[mint jetty]

first one that you can select

[fiery stratus]

ah uhh do coal first

[dense violet]

go north west. Lots of coal next to a lake

[fiery stratus]

im only farmiliar with the forest

[mint jetty]

thanks

[hard ivy]

Depending where you spawned and settled, it could be way more north than west

[mint jetty]

At the little lake in the centre of that spawn location is where I settled

essentially where my drop pod landed

[hard ivy]

That's quite random iirc

If the big arch is in the south east, the lake with coal is straight north

[mint jetty]

oh i never knew that, mine landed twice in the same spot

[mint jetty]

thanks

[hard ivy]

Should be about a kilometer away

If it's way more or less than that, you're not where I think you are lol

If you want, you can use an online map to find anything

But exploring on your own may be more fun

[daring stag]

I tried to launch a new game but forgot that you don't even start with the map

what tier you usually set when starting after you beat the game already

[vague sparrow]

Can't you only skip the onboardding nd start at tier 1?

I think the exploration milestone is like tier 1 or 2

[bold lily]

Milestone 3 of Tier 1 🙂

[cinder plume]

good morning builders

[vague sparrow]

good morning, building is pain, once you try to fit in half foundations, nothing fits anymore lmao

[cinder plume]

I have just started the game, learning the stuff

[vague sparrow]

Nice, enjoy your first ride

[astral knot]

hey chat. i got the train working

[vague sparrow]

:O!

[astral knot]

right now its just for coal and plastic

[cinder plume]

you sound like you are unhappy about something? 😄

[vague sparrow]

I found a window that can properly overlap without clipping lmao

[astral knot]

honestly, i probably should get another station for other things i planned to transport like sulphur and electronics

ok wait am i not allowed to "hold on" to a freight cars contents

[vague sparrow]

#screenshots message Look at the top 2 rows, they do not line up nicely with half foundation, I finally found the bottom row that fits perfectly lol

Been working on this for a good 30 mins >.<

[vague sparrow]

You can place an empty platform in between, so it wont load or unload anything there

But you cannot unload just 1 item from the freight, it will drop off the entire thing once it unloads

Generally it is good practice to use 1 item per wagon to save alot of headaches of mixing stuff

you can use smart splitters to filter after the unload, but that comes with a whole bunch of other issues to solve

[versed vault]

What is a good way to deal with those super poison spiders? And I think I have undiagnosed Arachnophobia...

[daring stag]

hoverpack homing ammo

[lean ferry]

.... I just checked plutonium fuel rods and uranium fuel rods production and

[mint jetty]

It says the tractor can be automated, how reliable is it for short term deliveries?

like under 500m

[lean ferry]

the production line is so large its gonna take me like 2 days straight of building

[mint jetty]

@fiery stratus

mb for the ping

[fiery stratus]

huh

[vague sparrow]

homing ammo, turbo ammo and jetpack works fine, hoverpack requires you to plant electric poles all over the map

also nuke nobelisks work very well, at the cost of enviromental damages lol

[mint jetty]

I replied to my original message, but ill type it out again anyways. The game states the tractor can be automated, how reliable is it. (I think thats what its telling me)

[vague sparrow]

it's pretty reliable, so long as you have a clean road they can path along

[fiery stratus]

i think it needs coal but u need all the coal u can get for power/steal so not worth imo

[mint jetty]

Ah i see, thanks

[versed vault]

I'll see if turbo ammo works better for me than homing/normal rifle ammo

Hadn't unlocked it yet for some reason

[vague sparrow]

homing and regular have very small magazines

best thing is to stay in the air to dodge their jumps and throw nobelisks at it while firing

turbo ammo fire in bursts, since the bloom incrreases by alot as the rounds per second fires increases, but youll have a 75 clip

[dense cave]

where do i find my ficsit cup

[vague sparrow]

the stingers have several moments after they jump tha tthey sit still for, this is the perfect moment to plant a nobelisk on their face

because they do take quite a few bullets, so nobelisk and rifle together works best

[versed vault]

Ok, I'll see if it helps thanks

[vague sparrow]

and keep inhalers in your hand, just in case

I've been one shot from like 55% hp lol

[lean ferry]

broaowoRBOABro i cant do this bruh

[vague sparrow]

so 50% hp is a good point to inhale that good protein

Good luck 😄

[lean ferry]

8k power usage 75 constructors 47 assemblers 21 blenders 45 smelters

i dont know if nuclear is worth it

but it seems fun but it also doesnt seem fun

[versed vault]

I usually die because I fall with no juice left on the jetpack....

[vague sparrow]

rocket fuel is best for power, most efficient and no waste to deal with

[lean ferry]

just for fun

[vague sparrow]

keep an eye on your jetpack, time your landing, like right after they jumped

[lean ferry]

btw is plutonium rod a like "reliable" fuel

[tawny night]

Nuclear is really j4f

[lean ferry]

cuz ive been told the time it takes to buffer in drone ports its not worth it

[vague sparrow]

there's several points in their attack animations that you can stay on the ground for a couple of seconds to refill your jetpack

observe them and you will see there is some breathing space to heal/recharge jetpack

[lean ferry]

the thing i do with arachnophobia mode is that theres always like a meow/growl right before they jump

so I always listen for that

[versed vault]

If I have a recipe that outputs 1 of a thing in a manufacturer and I put in less than 4 somersloops it doesn't do anything right?

[vague sparrow]

Also don't hold down spacebar with the jetpack, just tap it intermittently to stay up, this will make the fuel go a whole lot longer

you get 25% per sloop

in a 4 sloop machine each sloop gives 25% boostr

[versed vault]

But how does that work? I can't get 1.25 of an item

Or does it apply to the x/min?

[vague sparrow]

Not sure

[fiery stratus]

idk but it fucks up my powergrid i cant do it

[fiery stratus]

the sloops go crazy

[vague sparrow]

you can change the overclocking perhaps to get a whole number

[lean ferry]

wait quick question

[sturdy moat]

i managed to get 3k biomass now

[lean ferry]

I can either kill my sanity and sloop the manufaturer, recycle and get like 150gw OR i can not sloop and just be fun and do 50gw, with only 200 waste to deal with

[full perch]

Just unlock all t5and t6 with the shop,now planning for train and oil stuff,is it best to build train railway system first before building the factory or vice versa?

[versed vault]

I'll test with 2 instead of 4 and see what it does

[lean ferry]

the problem with nuclear power is once u start theres no going back

cuz waste treatment annoying af

can I not have like a landfill mod where I can just dump it all in one place and nothinghappens

[vague sparrow]

You can move it to a chest near the map border lol

and never get near it

[tawny night]

infil there is a Nuclear Waste disposal mod

[versed vault]

It actually just gives 1 -> 2 -> 1 -> 2 with 2 somersloops

[vague sparrow]

that's lame, deal with it like a man lol

[versed vault]

so 1.5 per craft in the end

[tawny night]

or just move it to a Area u dont like... e.g. Swamp

[lean ferry]

im probably gonna do that

should I do that? if I wanna recycle I can just leach some of the waste off

[astral knot]

if a freight station still has items in it, will an unload not happen?

[lean ferry]

but how do I download mods on existing save

[tawny night]

Belive me its fun to deal with it or just move to a cool looking end-storage

[vague sparrow]

yes, if the station is full it will not unload

or partially unload untill the station is filled

[elder valley]

hi guys

how long does it take to max a satisfactory game

[vague sparrow]

best to place a bunch of containers after the station to empty it out asap

[tawny night]

I normally did it with the SMM +(Satisfactory Mod Manager)

[tawny night]

Max? Ill say about 100-200 hours maybe. Depens how fast u are

[vague sparrow]

anywhere from 100 to 300 hours? depending on your knowledge and if you want to speedrun it

[elder valley]

i see

what is considered maxing it

having infinite of every material?

im seeing if i have the time to play the game before i buy it

[north hornet]

I'm really slow - LOL - took 1700 hrs. I'm done Tier 9 Phase 5 and end story.

[vague sparrow]

idk what you would consider maxing

[lean ferry]

ive only spent 50 hours lol and im on tier 9

[vague sparrow]

after you finish all the objectives you basically make your own goals

[lean ferry]

am I just rlly fast???

[elder valley]

i see

[gaunt saffron]

Any tips? Or should I just go with the flow?

[lean ferry]

ykw

I dont care anymore im making full recycle plutonium rod

[north hornet]

<= No mods, no cheats, just vanilla game.

[lean ferry]

oh boy this is gonna be fun

[vague sparrow]

guess jsut go with the flow, complete phases and get milestones done

[tawny night]

But im sure u have nice buildings then...

[lean ferry]

thats what I did aswell

IF itake too long and I just get bored of satisfactory, ill download the no waste cheat

[sturdy moat]

when you beat the game its always fun to play with mods, not sure what this game has mods wise at the moment but if they have any mods that change a lot of content it would keep peoples intrest in the game longer

[north hornet]

never got board - alway something to works on and figure out.

[tawny night]

Just go with the flow. Ypu will get the most fun out of the game if u figure it out on ur own

[lean ferry]

or wait quick question- how about instead of slooping and getting 150gw I can just not sloop and get 75gw, and do rest with nitro rocketfuel? I just wana play nuclear for fun

it would make everything so much easier

[tawny night]

Cant wait til Satisfactory+ is out again

[sturdy moat]

whats that

[elder valley]

has anyone tried making satisfactory run on mac recently

[vague sparrow]

rocket fuel is the best most efficient source of power with least headaches

[elder valley]

i know there are some examples 2 years ago

[vague sparrow]

idk about mac, but linux works great

[north hornet]

oh, and no blueprints.

[sturdy moat]

i havent even made it to teir 3 yet so im not gonna do modding for AWHILE

[gaunt saffron]

I've already experimented with creative a bit so lets go...

[south bramble]

is there any chance someone could help me with trains

[vague sparrow]

Maybe proton from steam works for macc aswell as a compatibility layer

[lean ferry]

hmm should I do what I said or not

[tawny night]

Overhaul mod that makes the game a lot harder

[lean ferry]

like should I not sloop to get 75gw, or sloop and spend ages to get 150gw

[vague sparrow]

sloop what exactly?

[tawny night]

No bps is really respectable.

[lean ferry]

the manufacturer making the uranium fuel rod

[vague sparrow]

oh

just build more of them?

how many machines are you slooping to get +64GW lol

75*

[tawny night]

And if you ever get bored just try a max power run or any challenges...

[vague sparrow]

wouldn't overclocking be enough?

[lean ferry]

if I sloop the manufacturer making the uranium fuel rod, I can get double power meaning double waste, also increasing the amount I need to do plutonium

[north hornet]

right now still on my first play thru - working on achievements 34/44 so far. I

Finishing MAM will take a bit.

[vague sparrow]

I'd probably just build like 10-20 manufacturers and overclock

[lean ferry]

buddy. you do realise the cost

if I make 20 manufacturers of uranium fuel rods im gonna spend 2 weeks on that project

how much gw do I need to like comfortably beat the game?

[vague sparrow]

I haven't done nuclear yet so far, so I'm not very familiar with it

50-60gw

[tawny night]

Try making it with an Blueprint?

[lean ferry]

i t s p a i n f u l

[north hornet]

one note - lots of my time was leaving satisfactory run 24/7 for production so wasn't actually playing all that time.

[lean ferry]

no its the resource cost

have you guys tried nuclear? just go to screenshots and you will see

[vague sparrow]

well resources are infinite though

[lean ferry]

bro what is that reasoning? if i want I could make my whole world a 9999999 time crystal/m and spend 3 weeks on it

[tawny night]

I have, i did a big 120 Reactor build just for Uranium

[vague sparrow]

sure, it might take time, but you cant say you will lack resources

[cedar portal]

My factory iss curreently consuming 200GW and I think it's probably mid-sized based on what I've seen of others on here 😄

[lean ferry]

what is it making

btw how much does a fully overclocked slooped quantumn encoder take?

[north hornet]

my power is 4800 LOL

[cedar portal]

40 warp drives/min

[lean ferry]

fairs

how much does fully overclocked slooped quantumn encoder take? im planning to get 100gw from my nuclear

[tawny night]

ofc what else lol

[cedar portal]

That probably eats 12GW or so

[vague sparrow]

you could, but you would not run out of resources, becuase they' re infinite

the only thing tha tisn't infinite is your time

[lean ferry]

thats my point- i got satifsactory as a game not like a job or smth

I wana have fun with what im doing

[vague sparrow]

So idk what you are saying when the cost of resources is too much since they are infinite, unless you see time as your resource

[lean ferry]

I care about efficiency but not as much if it ruins my fun

[vague sparrow]

Fair enough

[lean ferry]

yh forgot to say this but im going abroad in 4 days, when i come back I only have a week left

[vague sparrow]

then think about what gives your the most fun and do that

[lean ferry]

and the whole of next year is probably like one of my biggest academic years

so im not gonnahave much time im tryna get as much as I can now

[dense turtle]

my splitter dont want to send stuff one way can someone help i think its a bug

[lean ferry]

do u think 100gw is enough to beat the game

[vague sparrow]

u can beat the game with 50gw lol

[lean ferry]

im just gonna do 75gw nuclear. I can just add more rocket fuel later if I need, im making 25gw rn

[cedar portal]

It depends on what your ddefinition of beat th egame is. If you mean completing the last phase of the space elevator then thats way more than you need

[vague sparrow]

only if syou sloop the end game machines that will go uyp to 25gw ea

if you just overclock them a bit and build a couple more, 50gw will be fine

[cedar portal]

My definition is unlock everything. All the hard drives, every mam recipie, everythign in the awesome sshop, get one of every sshop collectable, and have a factory that is automating every single item in the game and feeding into the dimensional depot.

[lean ferry]

thats what I wana do, make decent sized factories make them look nice but nothing too big.

[versed vault]

Is there a good/any way to deal with the smoke that comes out of fuel-powered generators?

[lean ferry]

I dont want to maake like 99/m warp drive or like make a huge huge megafactory

[vague sparrow]

box it in concrete lol

[jaunty jewel]

27, but yes

[lean ferry]

27?

[versed vault]

it goes through concrete

[lean ferry]

bloody hell they are greedy

[versed vault]

do I have to use 4m foundations?

[vague sparrow]

place it higher up......

[versed vault]

hmm yeah I guess

[vague sparrow]

just move the block up 4-5 spaces so it wont go through

[lean ferry]

im gonna do 75gw nuclear. If I need anymore ill do rocket fuel thanks guys

[lean ferry]

I made a couple rocket fuel towers do U want me to post a screenshot of them?

[versed vault]

Sure, I'll take any inspiration, I am atm trying to figure out how many generators to put on each level

[lean ferry]

let me open the game

i did 4 gens on each level

[versed vault]

atm it's 36 but that tower would be insanely high with ~540 generators

[vague sparrow]

#screenshots message or just do this, never see any smoke it's way out of my sight most of the time lol

[lean ferry]

#screenshots messageheres mines, 4 gens on each floor

[cedar portal]

27 is the peak, the average power draw is half that, so 13.5gw

[lean ferry]

ok bye guys im gonna do 75gw

if its too long should I download a cheat? like one that eliminates waste/ balances nuclear

I saw one that makes nuclear give way more power like 3500 instead of 2500

[jaunty jewel]

what do you mean balances

[cedar portal]

Thats totally up to you. If you aren't having fun and find a modd that makes it fun then go for it

[lean ferry]

the time it takes, the size, its just not worth it I mightaswell just do rocket fuel

theres a mod that buffs nuclear crazy

hold on my satisfactory crashed bruh

[jaunty jewel]

because its not senseless fuel gen spam

[lean ferry]

yeah its too much work for not enough power

[cedar portal]

The only thing I personaly found that was unbalanced is Fisconium which dissapointed me once I realised how awful it was. I'd probably like a mod that cut it's cost in resources down a ton, but I like to stick with vanilla because to me that's satisfying. But everyone gets to play how they want

[dense turtle]

yeah them smart splitters are buggy as hell

[lean ferry]

75gw, if I wana do rocket fuel just put down a couple blenders nitro rocket boom easy 75gw

[dusty dragon]

@silk ocean #screenshots message ya gotta unlock the map on a new game

[lean ferry]

75 gw nuclear? 10 resources, good map rea, over water, waste process

[cedar portal]

For me I like nuclear power because it's a fun build. I built a small 25GW rocket fuel plant just to have it in the game but nuclear is a lot more fun with all the math and the enjoyment of having it all working and recycling perfectly.

[full perch]

Is it normal for oil generator and rubber factory those to be at same place?

[lean ferry]

im gonna do 75gw, cuz im doing it go big or go home

[hard ivy]

Same place, sure. But I suggest you keep the 2 separate. You don't want power issues just because you messed up your rubber production

[lean ferry]

nooo I did my calculations wrong I can only get 3 not 4 rods

bruh. I can only get 50/60gw

as they say.. go big or go home

[lean flax]

Good luck with your building

[lean ferry]

should I sacrifice 8 sloops?

nah I shouldnt

[shrewd lagoon]

chat is 52 nuclear power plants too many

[lean ferry]

maybe

flip it im doing 75gw of nuclear power

[shrewd lagoon]

never done nuclear before so I have no idea how much to plan for

[lean ferry]

wait we in same situation lol

im tryna figure out how many plants aswell

I thought 40 but then it would take way way too long

[full perch]

i start at grass plant, between beach and blue crater, which place is more approriate for factory and fuel power plant respectively?

just reach t5 and 6

[shrewd lagoon]

i mean I'm just doing the flowchart now, gonna start a new save soon

unless I'm being silly I think you can power 30 uranium plants off of one impure node

[lean ferry]

no u cant I dont tihnk so

[shrewd lagoon]

with sloops

[lean ferry]

even sloops dont work well

ur gonna use many manufacturer for the rods, the more the less efficient the slops will be

like im making 4/m, (planning) and I can put 4 sloops and only get 0.4 extra

[versed vault]

hmm should I just overclock all my fuel generators so I don't have to build 500+ of them?

[reef basin]

Build nuclear instead - only 50 gens 😛

[hard ivy]

Both are fine, but the western beaches are flat. And the blue crater is better for a rocket fuel plant

[clever fossil]

it saves you resources if thats how you want to build it.

[lean ferry]

i t s a p a i n

oh snap I forgot overclocking exists I can get so much more out of sloops

[reef basin]

No, nuclear is fine. Base uranium is super easy

[versed vault]

I mean I produce 2400 rocket fuel atm

[lean ferry]

plutonium

[hard ivy]

You can do 36 even without sloops

[reef basin]

Nothing says you need to do plutonium

[clever fossil]

though if you want to get your hands on as many power shards as possible, use somersloops in a constructor to craft your slugs int oshards

you will double the amount of powershards produced from them.

[versed vault]

yeah I'm doing that already

[clever fossil]

goody

[cedar portal]

If you are going to sloop a machine you should have it maxed at 250% to get the most out of it. I have 6 machines making plutonium rods, 2 are slooped and those two give me an extra 3 rods a min, which fules an additional 15 reactors.

[versed vault]

The moment I found out about the somersloop thing and had enough power I'm using them for basically everything

[clever fossil]

then you're good to install as many 250% Fuel generators as you can put powershards into them

[lean ferry]

I dont want to tho cuz it waste sloop- only 75gw for 8 sloops

should I though?

[clever fossil]

how many sloops do you have?

[lean ferry]

10

[versed vault]

I will have to go on a long adventure to get the slugs I need it seems, need ~700 total lol

[cedar portal]

I have SO MANY sloops due to playing the game for 5 years heh

[clever fossil]

yep, but at least the purples will produce many of them with sloops

[cedar portal]

Eventually you can craft power shards but thats pretty end game

[versed vault]

yeah I'm missing 2 tier 9 things for that

[clever fossil]

yeah, that's not what he wants rn

[lean ferry]

ykw its not worth it slooping. im just gonna do it normally, no slooping and get 4/m rods

I dont care about power at this point rocket fuel exists

[clever fossil]

rocket fuel's a pretty great way to generate a lot of power

[cedar portal]

I put them in because I had extra and I didn't have room to build more machines. Was just easier in that case, my nuclear production line is a mess

[clever fossil]

and it can be a pretty good fuel for drones n such

[cedar portal]

Ionized fuel is the best for drones, rocket fuel is #2 for sure.

[clever fossil]

sure, but that's if they're able to put down as many particle accelerators as possible to draw less power for an ideal output

[silk ocean]

Can I just point out that this game is absolutely amazing, original doom and quake might give it run, but it's just amazing. Thank you for what you have created

[clever fossil]

not even comparable to those games, but I enjoy Satisfactory a lot.

[cedar portal]

It's such a different time. back when Doom and Quake came out I'd never believe I'd play the same game for 5 years. New games were blowing away old ones every few months, computers a year old were garbage and unable to even run anything new. Seemed like every day something blew my mind.

[undone kestrel]

Im convinced I am never getting the heavy oil residue alt... scanned 20 hdds and not got it yet

[hard ivy]

Moar drives

[clever fossil]

have you considered cheesing?

[undone kestrel]

Yes but i cba

I am building while waiting for them to scan

[clever fossil]

well, once you have a drive scanned, save your instance, and then use the rescan, and keep reloading that save to rescan until you get waht you want

[undone kestrel]

I know how it works, I just don't want to do that 🙂

[clever fossil]

Okay, you just dont want to?

[undone kestrel]

No because I am getting some good other alts I can pick when I finally land the hor one

[hard ivy]

Once you gather enough drives, you're guaranteed to get the recipe you want so to me save scumming is reserved for when I want it right now

[cedar portal]

You can also scan a bunch of hard drives without picking anything. They will all give you new recipies

[undone kestrel]

That is what I am doing, I have 20 in the library right now lol

[silk ocean]

Yea, we got a 486 DX4, which cost like 2000 bucks, and in a year it was basically obsolete. And the Pentium and nvidia (Voodo was cool, RIVA TNT changed the landscape) and AMD, things moved fast back then xD

[clever fossil]

a lot of recipes are great, but you're complaining that you're not getting the heavy oil residue recipe, so you either prioritize it or not.

[cedar portal]

Now I have a CPU that I bought wwhen Satisfactory came out and I haven't upgraded because nothing is really that big of an improvment. i did upgrade the GPU but even that is somewhat old now, a 3080. But satisfactory still runs great

[undone kestrel]

That is the one I am specifically looking for but I am happy to get other alts as well because I know what I will need later on

I've just never had this much bad luck when trying to get this one 😂

[clever fossil]

right, it's a great recipe for fuel and its byproduct for producing plenty of plastic and rubber

[undone kestrel]

Yep

[silk ocean]

Yea xD I used to upgrade like once a year or maybe even half a year, now I upgrade like 3 or 5 or 7 times a year XD

[hard ivy]

I could not handle disassembling my PC more than once every year or 3

[clever fossil]

why?

[hard ivy]

It's always half a day of work and stress whether it's gonna turn on

And 2 years ago I made a mistake of making a custom water loop

I'll probably tear it out when I get a new case

[clever fossil]

a loop, watercooling?

[hard ivy]

Yep

[clever fossil]

understandable

[undone kestrel]

I would love a custom waterloop then probably just get rid of it because I am too lazy to maintain it

[hard ivy]

Sure, got like 7% more FPS but was that worth like a grand and 2 days of work and the significantly increased inconvenience of swapping parts? Not really

Looks cool tho

[clever fossil]

overclocking for gaming is a bit overrated anyway lol

[cedar portal]

If I upgrade again I'm going to buy an all in one for the first time in my life because it's just easier 🙂

[clever fossil]

but heat transfer efficiency is a cool challenge

[undone kestrel]

omg my complaining worked, i just rolled hor

[clever fossil]

congratulations

[hard ivy]

Do you have D(P)F?

[undone kestrel]

Yeah

[clever fossil]

diluted packged fuel?

[undone kestrel]

Managed to get that in the first drive I scanned once unlocking fuel 😂

Now I just need recycled plastic and I am set

[clever fossil]

right

[hard ivy]

Yeah, but I put the P in brackets, because diluted fuel exists too and they're basically the same

[clever fossil]

and once you get that blender alternate recipe, it'll be even better

[shrewd lagoon]

How much plastic do you guys plan for? think I did 400 in my last save and it ended up being enough but idk how much bigger I want to go this time

[undone kestrel]

By the time I have the blender I will not be needing that recipe anymore

[hard ivy]

? It's useful until the end of the game

[undone kestrel]

Typically before I start phase 4 I already have built most of the fuel power I need and will have all the rubber/plastic I need for the rest of the game

[clever fossil]

no, because the blender takes away the cost of using plastic

[hard ivy]

Fair. I never build more than I need so by the time I'm done, I'm making plastic/rubber/fuel in like 6 different places

[undone kestrel]

All I would use it for is heat-fused frame alt but I don't think I will use that this time

[dense turtle]

coal stacks 100?

[hard ivy]

All ores do

[undone kestrel]

Rubber and plastic production is one of the few "permanent" builds I have before I start nuclear

[dense turtle]

how do i know if my train will bring enough resources?

[clever fossil]

400 is a pretty good rate of plastic, though 1200 would be pretty awesome, same if you can make that much rubber too

[undone kestrel]

Maths or guessing

[hard ivy]

Calculate, guess, or test

[undone kestrel]

I usually start with 1 freight car per miner (or equivalent rate) and go from there

[shrewd lagoon]

1200 rubber? what can you even use that much on

[clever fossil]

if your train is bringing in more resources than the output is beign spent, your train is overworking, but that jsut means using more of whatever's using the train's depot.

[undone kestrel]

Space elevator parts

[hard ivy]

Idk, I haven't even completed phase 4 yet and I'm already using 3200 plastic and 2800 rubber

[unkempt blade]

counterpoint - when you have free power add lots of extra trains because seeing them zooming around makes the world feel more alive

[clever fossil]

lol

[vague sparrow]

ohhh, I jsut remembered getting a notification for deadlocked trucks yesterday and I never got around to fixing it lmao, I wonder if the factory is still somewhat going xD

[undone kestrel]

I made such a rookie error yesterday and decided to have a train go into a station from my main line and come back out rather than doing a loop and forgot to account for that at my recieving station and now have belts with mixed copper/iron ore 💀

[hard ivy]

Unless you're like me and all your trains are set to only depart when empty/full, then all the extra trains only create longer queues

[unkempt blade]

you just need some train stations that aren't connected to resources so you can send all your unnecessary trains through those instead

[astral knot]

should my trains pass through stations or reverse out of them

[unkempt blade]

depends what sort of track system you're going for

[astral knot]

i find it annoying to have to remember what the train's orientation will be once it arrives

[clever fossil]

consider these factors: input station filling more resources than it can empty, output station taking more resources than it can take, and to time it, use a stopwatch to time how long your train takes to get in a full cycle.

[unkempt blade]

I overbuild trains so I have a track going in each direction so they (almost always) come in one way then keep going forward to leave

[dusky dagger]

@lament shoal Do you think the baseball thing you made with Nobelisk in #fan-art actually works ? Like, can you hit a Nobelisk in-flight ?

[clever fossil]

are you just speculating, or seriously asking if a nobelisk could actually get hit by the xenobasher in game?

would be cool though

[dusky dagger]

Seriously asking

[clever fossil]

then no, that doesn't do that.

[dusky dagger]

It explodes or doesn’t even touch ?

[clever fossil]

wouldnt do anything to it

[dusky dagger]

Okay

[clever fossil]

its a cool idea, for sure

[hard ivy]

Pretty sure it explodes

[clever fossil]

no? it only explodes via detonator

[hard ivy]

Idk about in the air, but hitting it while on the ground makes it explode

[clever fossil]

really now?

i gotta test that

[shrewd lagoon]

any damage makes a nobelisk explode pretty sure

[hard ivy]

And the enemies can make them explode too iirc

[shrewd lagoon]

yeah, have had spiders blow themselves up when jumping at me

[clever fossil]

i honestly never had such danger

[hard ivy]

It's how you launch yourself with pulse nobelisks. Detonator has a delay between each one, the xeno basher doesn't

[lament shoal]

I tried, but it didn't work. I would have been happy if it had worked. Because imagine how you could make fun of your friend: you tell him that the Nobelisk can be repelled, but instead of a long flight, the Nobelisk explodes and your bro dies from a single charge. And if ADA said anything at that moment, I would have died laughing))0)

[clever fossil]

usually i jsut run into the power augmenter to launch myself for fun lol

nope, it does detonate in the air

[clever fossil]

i will correct myself: you can hit nobs with a basher, on ground or midflight, but it will explode

[dusky dagger]

It doesn’t seem as fun as explosive baseball but it’s good to know

[clever fossil]

it will explode, just not bounce off from any hits lol

pretty much

would be really funny honestly

[dusky dagger]

Modding is like C++. I might have the time to do it in August/September.

[hard ivy]

You can mod in the unreal engine editor without any C++ knowledge, but a mod like nobelisk tennis is probably too complex for that

[ashen spruce]

Any Train Enthusiast who can help me here rq? #1399777852697870477

[dense violet]

... y?

[astral knot]

im underclocking my rubber refineries

i dont need that much rn

[shy mulch]

that seems like an excessive frequency to be changing your CPU

[astral knot]

i can get 195 polymer resin per minute, and my rubber + plastic refineries consume 204 per minute

[lean ferry]

bro I was so scared u cant sink uranium clel but u can (im keeping some in storage for nuek nobelisk for now, untill I get my production line running

[ashen spruce]

#1399777852697870477 Anyone else?

[bright helm]

Can I delete one item category from dimensional storage if this category is empty?

[shy mulch]

no

[bright helm]

Bruh. I stopped storing sulphur and now it will be there forever

[versed vault]

oh god there is a dismantle blueprint option, why is that hidden?

[shy mulch]

just pin the things you use most often, and get into the habit of just searching for things, eventually you'll have hundreds of things in there so extra ones you don't use don't really matter

[vague sparrow]

guys, I've been proscrastinating placing 170 refineries to finish part of my factory what do i do xD

[shy mulch]

in theory you shouldn't really need to manually access DD too often anyway

[vague sparrow]

smh so much piping and work

[shy mulch]

build the 170 then re-calculate and decide now you need 850 😄

[vague sparrow]

I have calculated 170 with about 6 different recipes

overclocked all otherwise its like 400 lol

[ashen spruce]

It's not hidden, the tooltip mentions that you can change your build mode.

[vague sparrow]

oh and naother like 40 blenders and 400 fuel generators xD

[versed vault]

which tooltip?

[ashen spruce]

or not tooltip

I meant like where you see the controls in the dismantle tool

[versed vault]

oh you mean the "dismantle mode"? Never paid attention to that tbh

[vague sparrow]

You can switch between regular and blueprint dismantling

[shy mulch]

can't really say something is hidden just because you didn't look for it lol

[versed vault]

I just don't see any good reason not to put it in the hotkey bar below

[vague sparrow]

dismantle blueprint in the hotkey bar?>