satisfactory

[frail sleet]

1 input, 2-3 equal outputs

[hard ivy]

the radioactivity is negligible tbh

[cursive spindle]

@hidden grail hacı bende türküm sana yazcaktımda arkadaşlardan dm alıyomuşsun arkadaşlıkğı kabul etde konuşak

[hard ivy]

just automate filters and don't put the reactors right in the middle of a space you frequent

[hard ivy]

#rules

[cedar portal]

I have 25 reactors running at 240% with a simple manifold and it works fine

[lean ferry]

Btw it’s not possible to load balance between 40

[cursive spindle]

i read them before but there is HUNDRED OF non english text -_-

[hard ivy]

I had 418 reactors manifolded. worked fine, took a few hours to fill

[hard ivy]

it is

[frail sleet]

load balance?

you can split 40 ways equally or you can build more reactors at a different clock speed

[cedar portal]

@lean ferry My reactor line
#screenshots message

[lean ferry]

I can’t like you can’t sivide 40 by only 2 and 3

Even if you do like 2 and 3 and 2 and stuff I don’t think it is

I haven’t checked the math I should tho

[hard ivy]

you can with loopback

[lean ferry]

Is that where you split into 3, then merge 1 of the lines back?

[cedar portal]

@lean ferry Are you talking about load balancing the bel;ts feeding the rods, or load balancing by using X reactors for Y rods?

[frail sleet]

you don't have to, because you can loop the extra back and re-split it. You don't have to even do that though because you can build more or less reactors and clock them differently, then split directly with powers of 2 and/or 3

[lean ferry]

Load balancing by using x reactors for y rods because it would take days for the full system to manifold

[hard ivy]

doing it with 3 is pointless, but you get 5 by splitting in 6 and looping one back

[lean ferry]

I’m gonna have to do my research on that because it will be complicated to split to 40

[hard ivy]

I literally told you earlier that if you do it right, it'll take a few hours. <10, possibly <5. Even less if the reactors are OC

[cedar portal]

If you have spare sommerloops, throw them in the machines making rods to speed up making a buffer

[frail sleet]

for example 16x3 is 48, so one of the easiest options is just to clock 48 reactors to consume the amount of rods that you're making

[lean ferry]

Yeah that’s what’s said

And I don’t have that time cuz I need power rn

[hard ivy]

5 hours is not days

[lean ferry]

Oh oops mb

Thought I said hours not days

[hard ivy]

building the rod factory will take several times longer

[lean ferry]

I m exxagerating mb

I have 10k to spare but only 6K after time crystal, and I would like to get quantum n encoding done

[split pewter]

how do i cancel a dock

[frail sleet]

If i manifolded my plant, the nuclear reactor stage alone would take 254 minutes to fill when turned off and literally days when turned on btw 😛

as well as the 50x radiation across several square kilometers

[hard ivy]

you clearly don't know how radiation works lol

[lean ferry]

Doesn’t radiation have a max

[frail sleet]

50x more stuff = 50x more radiation

[lean ferry]

And then it just doesn’t go over

[hard ivy]

yeah, but not 50x more area, or 50x more distance

[lean ferry]

Tell me how I’m fully radiated near a small uranium node then

[frail sleet]

Maximum filter drain rate, yes

[cedar portal]

Radiation has a pretty high falloff, no matter how much you have it goes away quick as you get some distance

[frail sleet]

but the irradiated volume is proportional to the amount of objects present

[cedar portal]

I have a double container full of fuel rods and can get out of the radation zone pretty fast

[lean ferry]

Ohh

[hard ivy]

a reactor full of 50 uranium rods irradiates an area about 50m in radius from its center

[ivory musk]

wheres the channel I want to go to have my buildings/factories rated from 1 throu 10?

[lean ferry]

What im gonna do is just make the rod factory and do some load balancing

[frail sleet]

It's spherical, so if you have 8x as much stuff you need to be 2x as far away from it.

[white dawn]

There's no channel dedicated to such a thing, but you can share your stuff in #screenshots , or if you're looking for constructive feedback, #design-and-architecture is often helpful

[frail sleet]

In this case about 12x12x12m instead of about 50x50x50m

[lean ferry]

You know what should I just manifold it I don’t mind waiting

[split pewter]

why does my train just dock, get loaded, and just stays locked "docking"

its just constant loading

[ivory musk]

what about #math-and-meta? Can people help me there too?

[white dawn]

And of course keep in mind that the only person whose opinion matters is yours

[split pewter]

can sm1 answer my question

[ivory musk]

I am the best fucker on this server, proove me wrong

[full perch]

Are there any fuel power setup sample like those 8:3 coal setup?

[ivory musk]

like that?

[near frost]

Anyone know when the next time or at least has a good idea on the next time satisfactory will be on sale

[split pewter]

every steam sale, at the start of the summer sale it was 17

[white dawn]

... I mean, if you have a question about your build which is appropriate for #math-and-meta , then sure

[near frost]

When will be the next one?

[hollow hazel]

Halloween? Christmas? Easter?

[split pewter]

autumn/fall

[ivory musk]

got it. Thanks for those kind words. Ill have a look in the linked channels

[split pewter]

its seasons not holidays

"christmas sale" (i think is the name) is just another way to say winter sale lol

[near frost]

Anything sooner

?

[split pewter]

no, just gotta wait until autumn

[hollow hazel]

So, a sale the entire 3 months a season persists?

[split pewter]

it doesnt last the whole season and if it is holidays what about summer sale

whats the holiday for that

[hollow hazel]

Midsummer!

[split pewter]

the sale ended like a week ago

[near frost]

I think i will just buy the game rn

[split pewter]

for 50 bucks???

[near frost]

Mhh...

[split pewter]

some advise my father taught me, "never buy a game for over 30 bucks"

he only got the game cuz it was 7 bucks

in early access days

[near frost]

My shchool starts September and tbh I dont wanna do more math then I have to

[split pewter]

fair enough

[split pewter]

also why would it be called summer sale if its for midsummer?

[hollow hazel]

Then save your brain for school. You can buy and install when it is on sale, but not touch it until you are free from the other math.

[cedar portal]

It's worth paying full price for, unless you are really short on cash.

[split pewter]

it starts a while before midsummer..

[split pewter]

it was 17 bucks when the steam summer sale started for 3 days :P

[near frost]

Nah i am rich as "a bad word"

[split pewter]

also why is my train just stuck "docking"

not even doing anything its just "docking" while its already docked

[hollow hazel]

See? Put it on sale so that it becomes the perfect midsummer gift! ... oh, wait... there is no gift giving at midsummer. just schnapps, surströmming and meatballs.

[split pewter]

yes...

its sales for the season, not for holidays...

plus i've met more people who dont know what steam is than people who celebrate midsummer

[delicate cobalt]

That's that stuff that powers trains...right?

[split pewter]

???

[hollow hazel]

Steam!

[delicate cobalt]

LOL....

[split pewter]

its the app, not the gas...

[near frost]

Oh ya what about Epic Games Store?

[hollow hazel]

But gas powers trucks. 😕

[split pewter]

do you know what gas is

your breathing in a type of gas right now

[near frost]

Air but costs more

[split pewter]

what

air is free

[delicate cobalt]

oh sweet jesus

[near frost]

Its not... at least in my home

[split pewter]

exuse me?

[delicate cobalt]

right?

[split pewter]

i think its time for you to get ||a job||

[near frost]

Damn bruh

Wtf family friendly bro

[hollow hazel]

You need to pay for good air. If you don't pay you melt.

[delicate cobalt]

It's called residual income, poof

[near frost]

I thought that was normal tbh

[split pewter]

air doesnt even cost anything

[delicate cobalt]

especially in august

[split pewter]

if it did i'd charge you 5.99 per breath

[near frost]

What are you saying

[near frost]

That is a realy good deal

[hollow hazel]

Don't mind him. He lives out in the country.

[split pewter]

Breathe air.

[near frost]

Ohhh

[split pewter]

true...

[hollow hazel]

He's sitting on a log right now.

[near frost]

Make sense

[split pewter]

false...

[delicate cobalt]

Usin that spaceX internet....

[hollow hazel]

And has a high sun tolerance.

[near frost]

Rich boi

[split pewter]

i have like 40 bucks in my life savings

[near frost]

Damnnn

BRO IS RICHHH

[near frost]

I have 0.04

[split pewter]

how do you buy a 50 dollar game with 4 cents

[near frost]

... mom's money

[split pewter]

broke boi

stop typing

[hollow hazel]

See, can't afford walls that would keep the air trapped and stale.

[near frost]

I spent it all on air

[split pewter]

i said stop typing

[near frost]

Ok ok calm down

[split pewter]

why would you want that

[white dawn]

I think it might be time for y'all to head to #off-topic-general or somesuch

(Or just, y'know, stop)

[dense violet]

Yikes on a bike... to ... all of this

[split pewter]

i asked a question and they replied with the most random things

[near frost]

Anyway I have to go byee

[white dawn]

You're contributing too; can just not.

[hollow hazel]

We did not reply to your question. We just went on a tangent.

[near frost]

boom bye

💥 💥 💥 💥

[split pewter]

also keep in mind you said that the steam sale was for holidays and not seasons

when i told player to wait for a sale to buy satisfactory

[lean ferry]

You know what I’m gonna do: pen and paper I’m gonna calculate the load balancer to split the fuel rods to 40 reactors

[cedar portal]

Getting 'close enough' also works, doesn't have to be 100% split

[lean ferry]

Then I need to redo same thing for the plutonium and ficsonium- my only problem is dark matter residue for the ficsonium itself

… I need 200 ficsite trigons a min

[delicate cobalt]

oof

[hollow hazel]

The trigons are indeed a pain.

[lean ferry]

That’s 100 ingots

[hard ivy]

and that's why ficsonium is an awful power source

[lean ferry]

No wait

Ykw how about I just do plutonium and uranium

[split pewter]

its been like 10 or 20 minutes and its still trying to dock 🙏

[lean ferry]

And then uhh just bring the plutonium waste in a void in the other side of the map no one cares right

[lofty juniper]

should i become a type 1 civilisation in satisfactory?

[hollow hazel]

Except it could fill up the object count and your game gets slower and slower...

[cedar portal]

Yeah, Fisconium is not worth it for the amount of resources it needs. I made a small recycling system just for the enjoyment of building it that makes 9 fisconium rods/min but even that is just breaking even. So it can be a fun project but much better jusst to make more uranium plants if all you need is power.

[lean ferry]

Can I still get achievements if I modify the game save

[hollow hazel]

Some people just have entire fuel generator parks spanning a whole biom. 😅

[hard ivy]

plutonum waste accumulates very slowly. a few hundred containers and you're set for 1000s of hours

[lean ferry]

Because it genuinely will kill my pc and wouldn’t be fun- so if I can modify save every now and then like every 2 weeks I can empty the waste

Because I do wana have fun but ficsonium is too long and plutonium will lag my game

[split pewter]

just sink plutonium fuel rods

[lean ferry]

Actually wait how will I get object count in containers?

[split pewter]

if you have enough power

[hard ivy]

plutonium isn't gonna lag your game

[ivory musk]

How can I duplicate a Save File to enable flight mode for cinematic shots?

[lean ferry]

I have a 1650 and Ryzen 3, are you sure plutonium waste won’t lag my game

[split pewter]

windows + r and type in or paste %localappdata%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames

[smoky forge]

wait so is it smart to use a balancer to all your nuclear generators and not use a manifold?

[split pewter]

all ur save files

[lean ferry]

Look am I going to lose achievements if I modify game save because I’m pejably just gonna empty my plutonium waste

[split pewter]

with the satisfactory calculator it wont make you lose achievements

[white dawn]

If you want to reduce the amount of ambient radiation around your nuclear processing, sure, balancers can help with that

[ivory musk]

thanks, that opens the save folder. how do I duplicate/paste a world file into another session?

[lean ferry]

No we talking about plutonium waste accumulating in containers wil probably crash my pc , but yeah it would be better to load balance

[smoky forge]

no in general

[split pewter]

right click the desired save file, copy and then right click on an empty spot and you should see a paste button

[hard ivy]

I'd manifold reactors because it's faster to build, and if you disconnect the water, it'll only take a few hours to fill.
the radiation from full reactors is negligible too

[split pewter]

and then you can freely modify it

[cedar portal]

It won't crash your PC. I have 60 uranium reactors. I recycle but even that many would only fill up a container every 9 hours.

[split pewter]

oh or you could just press esc, save game and load that save

[white dawn]

What makes you worried that items in a bin will crash your PC?

[bright helm]

Is there any tutorial about railway signaling in Satisfactory on Youtube? I don't understand railway signaling.

[ivory musk]

not helping, need to escalate the issue

[smoky forge]

alr so manifold is still worth the wait, and i never realy care about radiation

[split pewter]

?

[lean ferry]

I only have a 1650 and Ryzen 3 I average 30 fps and every 2 hours my pc crashes

[hollow hazel]

Lots of them.

[lean ferry]

Like my satisfactory just destroys itself and goes on 1fps

Only way to fix is to reopen game

[hard ivy]

make sure you put the water extractors on a switch and disable them when filling. if you do, it'll take a few hours. if you don't, it can take days

[white dawn]

Sure, but what makes you think that items in a bin is contributing significantly to that?

[split pewter]

i used to have that problem but i figured out how to make my pc not beg for mercy while on low quality

[cedar portal]

I just hate the idea of a massive block of containers. It makes me sad to build such an ugly thing.

[white dawn]

It's the actual factory processing itself which is almost certainly causing your load, not items sitting in a bin

[smoky forge]

yeah i couldve guessed that LMAO

[boreal musk]

yeah, 100k plut waste in a bin wont lag your game, its the thousands of conveyor belts in one area that will

[cedar portal]

I don't think Satisfactory is to blame, I think somethign is wrong with your hardware or drivers. We can't know 100% why it's crashign but Satisfactory is very stable, there are LOTS of people playign with no issues with huge factories. You might have encountered some rare bug, but in my opinion it's far mroe likelyu there is an issue with your system.

[split pewter]

and keep in mind theres some settings you can tweak to make your game run at a smooth 60 fps

[mortal ginkgo]

I would say he got a really big hardware issue

[ivory musk]

you are telling me how I copy and paste my safe files. but what I want to know is how I enable fly mode for cinematics without that pen icon in my session selection

[cedar portal]

Once your factory is big enough no amount of graphics settings will help.

[split pewter]

p + r

[split pewter]

fair

[ivory musk]

p + r?

[split pewter]

yes, in that order

ingame

[ivory musk]

its p + t, my guy

[lean ferry]

Yeah my pc is 9 years old I’m getting a new one next month or so

[split pewter]

you sure?

[hollow hazel]

What does T do?

[ivory musk]

yes I am, if we are talking about the same thing

[split pewter]

p + r enables decoupled camera...

[ivory musk]

wait hold up

[lean ferry]

Ima get a bunch of beams, bunch of pipes and put like around 200 storage and just decorate it a bit

[split pewter]

p + r + t removes ui and makes it cinematic aswell

[lean ferry]

Nuclear waste landfill

[ivory musk]

p + t only hides the HUD, right? p + r is that i can moove around my character, yes?

[hollow hazel]

yes

[ivory musk]

But that p + r camera thing has a border. now what if I want to moove further than that boundry?

[hollow hazel]

Then you do indeed use the stiff controls of Fly Mode...

[ivory musk]

fly mode, yes

[split pewter]

yes but its a very big one

[hollow hazel]

But can it span an entire rail network?

[split pewter]

also hoverpack

[split pewter]

why would you ever need a shot of an entire rail network

[hollow hazel]

Hands get in the way of a good photo then.

[hollow hazel]

Why would you want a shot of just one factory building?

or half a building?

[split pewter]

just build up and use decoupled

[split pewter]

use decoupled with it...

[hollow hazel]

So, move the camera until the border, then move your guy to the camera, then move the camera until the border, rinse and repeat?

[split pewter]

no just go up as high as you need to, and then use decoupled, hoverpack has no limity except for power

[ivory musk]

Is there a way to have my "legit" world coexisting with an "advanced settings" world without rebuilding everything by hand and/or using calculator?

[hollow hazel]

Yes.

[split pewter]

like enabling the advanced settings for it?

[smoky forge]

i have a mod which lets me see that on the map

[ivory musk]

no, New file, same world

[split pewter]

i dont quite know

[ivory musk]

do you know how its done?

[hollow hazel]

Go to where your save file is, copy it, paste it, load it with AGS checked.

If you really want to make absolutely sure, you start new session, save game, browse to your previous session folder, copy the save from there and paste it into your new session folder, load game with AGS.

[ivory musk]

hold up, let me see if I can make it work. But as far as I can tell I have no "session" folder, I only have one with a long string of numbers

[hollow hazel]

That is a session folder.

[split pewter]

are you in %localappdata%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames

[ivory musk]

bro fr you arwe not helping man

[split pewter]

arwe

[hollow hazel]

Oh, wait.... We are definitely not helping....

Just saw the problem.

[hard ivy]

load a file into SCIM, change session name

it should now become a new session

[hollow hazel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/17a4qki/transfering_savefile_to_another_session/

[ivory musk]

hold up

[lean ferry]

I thought of a big brain idea

[split pewter]

?

[ruby mountain]

just found out, you can copy and paste settings in different things with ctrl c and v, I never even thought to do that lol

[lean ferry]

What if I fill a train car with a lot of plutonium waste and drive it off the map

[ivory musk]

Its that simple by just loading in a savefile WITHIN the game?

I dont even need the file explorer for that?

[split pewter]

screw dat, just make the settings yourself!

[hard ivy]

it'll still be there

[lean ferry]

Nooo

[ruby mountain]

;p but what if you place a bunch of constructors and want to not go through each menu?

[split pewter]

wait hes got a good point tho

[lean ferry]

I don’t understand why ficsit can’t let us sink the waste

[split pewter]

fair point

[lean ferry]

Why ficsit 😦

[split pewter]

ficsit does not want your waste.

[hard ivy]

the only way to permanently remove waste without recycling is to kill a lizard doggo holding a stack

[lean ferry]

Fairs I didn’t think about that

[split pewter]

try putting it in the trash can in your inventory (idk what it is)

[white dawn]

Game balance

[lean ferry]

I’m not evil

[hollow hazel]

Then why's there a toilet?

[split pewter]

when i forgot about what lgio did...

[hard ivy]

maybe flushiung in the toilet too

[white dawn]

The most easily-scalable power solution in the game needs a downside; waste processing is it

[split pewter]

hmm..

[white dawn]

Yeah, I think the toilet works too, though it only does an item at a time, not full stacks. So that'd be a full time job. :)

[split pewter]

not to mention the filters

[lean ferry]

I want to go in a multiplayer world open satisfactory calculator and just fill my freinds inventory with waste for fun

[split pewter]

super expensive (but possible) way to get rid of uranium/plutonium waste

[lean ferry]

Can I not just like auto click

[split pewter]

peak

[lean ferry]

Click*

[split pewter]

the toilet menu closes when you flush

[lean ferry]

Top 10 typos of all time

[lean ferry]

Like macro it

[split pewter]

the filters

[lean ferry]

O

[split pewter]

you need to not die from radiation

[hard ivy]

automate into DD and incorporate retrieval in the macro

[split pewter]

wait dd is the way you can store it without the downsides of radiation in the whole 100m vicinity

[hard ivy]

only 2500

[white dawn]

Sure, tools could be used to automate flushing stuff down the toilet (and, as mentioned, retrieving filters from the Depot periodically). You'll have a hard cap on the rate of disposal, though, and I doubt the method could support much. (Plus even if it does, your pawn would have to literally spend all their time there)

[split pewter]

thats just about a sc

[white dawn]

The flushing animation takes a little while, I think

[split pewter]

it does

also by the time your done, there will be plenty more waste than what you started with

overall just sinking plutonium fuel rods is better than trying to do that

speaking of sinking do nobelisks act like c4 where it only activates upon a signal

cuz if it wasnt the whole sink would explode

[hollow hazel]

Does dynamite go boom when crunched?

[ruby mountain]

I would assume so

[hollow hazel]

Yeah, why wouldn't the sink go 💥 then...

I mean, yeah, it is said Alfred Nobel invented a "safer and more controllable" explosive, but that safe?

[ivory musk]

worked! thank you

[vivid wedge]

I got up on the thing that goes up on the hub and I died in the air and now I cant find my death crate, how do I get it back?

[hollow hazel]

SCIM your save.

[vivid wedge]

what does SCIM mean

[hollow hazel]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[hollow hazel]

So. It has been over an hour now and your train is still flashing "Docking" on the screen?

[atomic notch]

Did grout licker leave? Rip

[split pewter]

i reset the setup, im still testing it tho

i hope its not lol

[split pewter]

tested it, and its still flashing 😔

oh nvm

peak

[lean ferry]

Is there a guide to load balance 1 input into 10 or like a genuine guide to load balancing

Because im planning to split the uranium
Fuel rods into 4 manufacturers, put 1 sloop in each so they get 2x, and split each by 10 but my slow brain can’t do that

[boreal musk]

1 to 5 to 10

5 ways is simple, as long as youre belt isnt full, you can just merge the last belt back to before first splitter

[dense violet]

just google 1 to 5 load balancer yeah

[frail sleet]

Also if you do a 1:5 balancer, do it first.

If you have 4 manufacturers then connect all of their outputs (that way you have to build this once, rather than 4x), send that through the 1:5 splitter, then take each of the 5 belts and split them right before their reactor pair.

[ashen spruce]

#screenshots yippe train problem

I don't have a clue what could be wrong.

[dense violet]

well showing the rail in signal mode would be your first step

[hollow hazel]

Normal.

[fading compass]

@vague sparrow dms

[boreal musk]

thats normal

they only reserve path if theres a train

[ashen spruce]

well it didn't work either when there were trains there.

It just kept saying Waiting for it. I can try again tho.

[boreal musk]

path in block out?

[hollow hazel]

Did the train have a destination?

[ashen spruce]

Yup

[placid stirrup]

It's not about the destination, but the journey

[ashen spruce]

Apparently, my game was just broken, just reloaded, now it works perfectly.

[ashen spruce]

Yup.

Anyway, thanks for trying to help me with a non-existent problem.

Ok.

Nevermind, back to the problem.

#screenshots once again

[knotty barn]

You're welcome

[boreal musk]

is there any block signal behind path signal?

[hard ivy]

"waiting for path reservation" is the defauly state of path signals

[sly delta]

is there a hassle-free way to split 150/min into 90/min ?

[hard ivy]

yes, feed it into a set of machines consuming 60 or 90/min and overflow the rest

[ashen spruce]

There is the one at the end of the junction and then one directly behind it, then every 2 Train Supports (usually 20ish Foundations inbetween each Signal)

[sly delta]

so just manifold the whole thing ?

thinking about it, I probably do not need 90 Iron Rods/min

[hollow hazel]

Even if a train is waiting to get to a station?

[hard ivy]

right in front of the signal?

[hollow hazel]

Pic 3 in that link.

It is sitting there, it has a destination, it ain't going anywhere.

[hard ivy]

is the block signal out of the intersection in the direction of the station green?

[hollow hazel]

Yeah it is! Are you looking at the same pictures I am?

[lavish lance]

#screenshots message
if i had explosives, i wouldnt be using the chainsaw @brittle oracle

[brittle oracle]

You are right next to a sulfur deposit though, and coal :p

[lavish lance]

dude i i dont have it unlocked, im in the early game

[hard ivy]

Bro idk which signal is in the direction of the station

Besides, in one screenshot, all 3 block signals are green, and in the second you're showing one being red.

[brittle oracle]

Ah, i might have missed that part 😄

[haughty flax]

feel like i want to start a new playthrough just to avoid doing this phase 4 project parts...

[fading compass]

when do i unlock coal

[hard ivy]

Tier 3

[hollow hazel]

Oh yeah.
@ashen spruce In Pic 2 why is the left signal red?

[reef basin]

use #1038092680493801533, not #screenshots

[ashen spruce]

Because it is the block signal facing the direction of the station

It's basically the out signal.

[ashen spruce]

Respectfully, I prefer not to. But I might consider it in the future.

Oh, @hollow hazel nvm, sorry, I have a train on that block.

You can see it in Pic 3.

[hollow hazel]

Imagine if your help went unnoticed as the general chat just fills up with other banter as soon as you posted your question.

[ashen spruce]

The Search feature exists for that reason 🙏

[open pollen]

Or how much easier it is to help people when you can see the screenshots with the questions 😆

[hollow hazel]

Then the search feature would've answered your question as many other people might've had your very exact same problem. 😉

[ashen spruce]

My "Question" if you will is stated in screenshots too.

IF I were to make a post in #1038092680493801533 for that one problem, I'd just name it "Train Problems with Left" 😂

[hollow hazel]

Except no one can properly reply in screenshots. But hey, if you prefer disorganized and decentralized communications who are we to stop you. Greeny's not a mod.... or is he?

[reef basin]

which is what the channel is not about 🙂 #screenshots is for showing off your factories, #1038092680493801533 is for getting help with the game

[lean ferry]

I don’t know if this will work- but if I put my input into a merger, merger output into a splitter that splits two ways, one of those splits into 2 and loops back to merger and the other one splits into 3

[ashen spruce]

I'll just rather not answer this.

Because if I would it would come over as "toxic".

[lean ferry]

I can post a screenshot of this design (taken from a Reddit user) if ts more simple to see

[reef basin]

that just limits your belt capacity to 1/2, what are you trying to do?

[lean ferry]

Nah I don’t really need lol I’m splitting 2 rods a min

Not rods I mean nuclear fuel rods those thingys

So I don’t really need belt capacity

[reef basin]

hey I'm just trying to help you get more answers in a better manner 🤷

your choice if you listen to me or not, though channel rules are there to follow 🤷

[reef basin]

why build the thing then?

[lean ferry]

Wym?

[ashen spruce]

Ok, give me a sec for a "Are you happy now...?" message 😂

[lean ferry]

What do you mean by that OH WAIR I mean by like I don’t need a high belt capacity

I only need max 2/m nuclear fuel rods and I’m using mk 5 belts

I don’t know any good 5 way splitter designs that’s the only one I know

[open pollen]

What are you splitting those 2/min rods into?

[reef basin]

you could alwyas do a manifold

[open pollen]

Oh wait you said it as I was typing

[lean ferry]

I’m making 4 manufacturer making 2/m each I want to split them into 40 reactor total- I’m gonna put one sloop in each to total 2x production- and split each manufacturer into 10 reactors

[reef basin]

but yeah, if you want to balance into 5, that's what you usually do

[ashen spruce]

Manifolds are A.W.E.S.O.M.E.!

[reef basin]

(you can also try clocking the manufactureres or reactors to different clock speed to match ratios)

[lean ferry]

The time it wil take to manifold 40 reactors

[ashen spruce]

Is about equivalent to the time it'll take to load balance it.

[lean ferry]

Yeah but I want to sloop them

[lean ferry]

Nah it will be much quicker

[reef basin]

well you can't sloop gens

[lean ferry]

No I want to sloop the manufacture

But I only wana get 2x so I can use max 4 sloops so max 4 machines

[reef basin]

yeah, and clock gens so that it's nicer split than 1:5

[ashen spruce]

But not as compact.

[lean ferry]

But then how am I gonna sloop

Wait I’m stupid sorry

[reef basin]

clock gens, not manus

[lean ferry]

Yh mb I should do that

Downclock or overclock?

Side question would you say downclock or underclock

[reef basin]

whatever you want, depends how much you need to consume and how it would nicely match your production

[lean ferry]

I would rather underclock because I would much rather spend a few more supercomputer and some stuff rather than put like 30 power shards

Ok I’m just gonna increase by 14 more reactors and underclock each

[ashen spruce]

2.550/min Crude supply 160-ish Unoverclocked Turbofuel Gens without using alternate Recipes. (Random Fact that is true bc of my Power Plant)

You obviously have to have Compacted Coal and Turbo unlocked

[fiery viper]

is there giveways of the game?

[glossy spade]

Hey all 🙂 very new to the game,

I'm yet to set up my Oil production, but I have 1,020 oil to work with.

Is this best worth dedicating towards making fuel & power generators,
& then converting any bi-products into plastics and coke for more fuel.
Or am i missing something?

Also, i just unlocked Heavy Oil Residue, is this recipe worth using?
& am I better off waiting until I unlock Diluted Packaged Fuel before going HAM on my oil production? I'd like to make this my first huuuuge factory & get it right first time (hopefully)

[hollow hazel]

While power is good, plastic and rubber are going to be needed for future products.

You can use the Heavy Oil Residue byproduct to make fuel, and from there "better fuel".

[white dawn]

It's generally good to use up byproducts, certainly, though unless you're using the most oil-efficient petrochemical chain (which involves four separate alt recipes), it's more oil-efficient to make rubber/plastic "directly" than making it from byproducts

I tend to keep power + production separate, and then just find a use for fuel-production byproducts afterwards

Like on my last save, I did end up using the leftover resin from my fuel power to make all the oil products for my Computer + HSC factory, but I didn't plan that out until awhile after that fuel power was set up

Resin was just getting sunk until then

[glossy spade]

Understood!

I'm in the Blue Crater atm. I may dedicate this area to power, & then once that's all good and set up, work out a way to use the bi-products, or skin them,

& then venture out for more oil elsewhere for my plastics and rubbers 🙂

[white dawn]

In the end, of course, it's up to you. :). So long as you're having fun, you're playing it right!

[glossy spade]

At the moment the only fuel based Alt recipe I have s heavy oil residue,
Im aware of another which is diluted packaged fuel,

But is there anywhere where I can read about these alt recipes,
specifically for fuel power, and which ones I can use together to make the most optimised factory?

thanks so much for your inpit btw @white dawn and @hollow hazel 🙂

[eager plank]

Why do they had to call SAM MAR in Spanish?!

[south sinew]

fuel power is just HOR and diluted or diluted packaged fuel

there's no other fuel recipes you need to care about until rocket fuel

however you can read about all alt recipes on the wiki

[glossy spade]

amazing! Thanks @south sinew !

[split marsh]

im having trouble optimizing my oil refinery. I'm using the diluted fuel alt recipe, i have 720 oil/min right now

[fervent palm]

what is the use of braided cables?

[hollow hazel]

What does S.A.M. stand for? What does each word translate to?

[fervent palm]

decoration?

[fluid sapphire]

Yes, it's a variant of beam

[fluid sapphire]

Strange alien matter

[hybrid sierra]

check out my post in #screenshots

[fathom shuttle]

The build height limit is very high

[lament niche]

@high fulcrum who are you

why the friend request?

[elfin trellis]

he wants to be friends (maybe scam) LOL

[hollow hazel]

Lonely boi needs fwends.

[astral knot]

how high does the points per coupon go to inthe awesome sink

rn im at 21k points

ive been putting the residue from my refineries in it

[hard ivy]

249 501 250

[astral knot]

i should not put my packaged fuel in it ngl

[white dawn]

AFAIK it's only the display that has an upper limit, btw. You get the appropriate amount of points even if the display's reached its max

[hard ivy]

That's for points per minute, not points per ticket iirc

[white dawn]

Oh oops, right, misread the question. :)

[hard ivy]

And that one's the 32 bit integer limit?

[white dawn]

yeah

Though if they're sinking oil-processing residue presumably they mean either resin or coke, in which case the 21k number probably is per min, regardless of the words used. :)

[hard ivy]

at 30 coupons, the per coupon cost is ~20k points

[white dawn]

Or maybe they meant just 21k absolute points. I should stop trying to second-guess questions

[naive palm]

If he doesn't want you when your belts are spaghetti, he doesn't deserve you when your pasta is nuclear.

[nocturne orbit]

is there a way to copy building you are looking at on controller?

[ripe basin]

You need to bind it

[reef basin]

not official ones

[hollow hazel]

Don't give him ideas! 🤫

[fiery viper]

dang i was hopin for one

[reef basin]

you can get the game in a giveaway if you pay 39 EUR 😛

[hollow hazel]

I suppose the other is entering a contest of some sort and hope you win and the host sends you a steam gift.

[lament niche]

what about tickets earned?

[acoustic heart]

Did they change how creatures spawn? I’m having them respawn in my factory areas. I thought they weren’t suppose to do that if you build around that area?

[arctic timber]

i don’t think yet, but i personally like it, i have a bean as my pet

[lament niche]

do you have things powered nearby?

[acoustic heart]

Yeah, those are cool but I’m having hostile ones pop up.

[fathom shuttle]

I nuked 4 of them while building my diamonds factory

[acoustic heart]

Ohh. There has to be power? I guess that makes sense. I’m having them spawn around and on top of my conveyor buses

[lament niche]

even if you just have streetlamps nearby it'll keep them from respawning iirc

[hard ivy]

there's an article somewhere on the wiki explaining the mechanics

[acoustic heart]

Thanks. I’ll do that. I thought it was just anything you build. I didn’t know it had to be something involving power.

[hard ivy]

iirc, anything can prevent spawns, you just have to have enough of it. powered buildings are "worth" a lot more

[hollow hazel]

Needs to make a racket to scare them off... Or just the uneasy vibes of electricity.

[acoustic heart]

Makes sense

[fiery viper]

😭too broke

[arctic timber]

electricity scares us all

[acoustic heart]

I got popped by 120 once. It is not a fun time.

[lament niche]

I once intentionally stuck my finger into a 120 lamp socket. It left me feeling negative, pun not intended

[placid stirrup]

And nobody could even punish you since you were already grounded

[vestal mica]

guy where i used to work got there really early and got zapped by the electric fence

more than once. he wasn't too bright

[solemn charm]

started a fresh world recently, got depot unlocked, wanted to ask for suggestions on upgrade order for depot for early/mid game.
i know eventually i'll unlock them all, but if you had to rank the best upgrade pathing what do you think it would be?
i was thinking it might be like a mixture of upgrade both stack/speed twice then max stack size.
but wanted to poll some thoughts on it.
like a go for stack first, then speed twice, then max stack? or something along those lines?

[lament niche]

me, who doesn't use the DD at all (I've played since U3)

[solemn charm]

i've played since U1, but i love depot a lot. i havent popped into this server in a hot minute where do i go to drop a pic of my old storage center from a previous world.

[placid stirrup]

I will always max out the stack size first, speed isn't needed (personally) until later on

[lament niche]

#screenshots

[hollow hazel]

Depot Downloading: The ability to access the materials for building when you are far from your storages and can build without having to run back for more materials.

[glossy spade]

https://imgur.com/a/qImH5VE

Hello me again! I'm trying to figure out how to use Satisfactory Modeler to recycle my empty cansters back into my diluted packaged fuel production, but I just keep getting zeros 🙁 can anyone help? I can share my modeler export if that helps

Thank you all so much 🙂

[hollow hazel]

After that... 🤔
Supposedly depends on how fast you can actually fill the storage. Can you saturate a Mk.3 belt fully? Then go for the speed branch before the capacity branch.

[solemn charm]

does the wiki have math involved on how each speed increase affects upload speed?

i like math

[lament niche]

yes

[frail sleet]

speed, size, speed, size, speed, size generally i'd say. The increasing cost of each one dominates and makes it pretty bad to stack one or the other.

[lament niche]

each speed upgrade increases speed by 60 @solemn charm

[coarse vine]

That's my experience too.

[vestal mica]

?

[smoky forge]

by double*

[hollow hazel]

Uh, no... Not really.

[lament niche]

no. There's 5 upgrades. 60 is minimum, 240 is maximum.

[frail sleet]

It's 15/30/60/120/240

[solemn charm]

looks like it starts off at 15 items/m and each speed upgrade doubles the item/m speed
15/30/60/120/240

[hollow hazel]

15 is minimum!

[smoky forge]

15 is minimum

on what drugs r u on?

[lament niche]

since when?

[smoky forge]

forever?

[hollow hazel]

Since WIKI

[frail sleet]

Since the game launched

[coarse vine]

Always been like this.

[smoky forge]

for how long did you not play?

[lament niche]

Did take a break after U5 until launch

[frail sleet]

There is a surprising number of people on here who admit that they didn't play the game since alpha (on another game engine) and still try every day to get people to build everything "their way"

[vestal mica]

oh yeah, dimensional depot back in U5 was different

[smoky forge]

dam

[lament niche]

there wasn't a DD in U5.

[frail sleet]

not that i am saying lilithvia is one of those

[vestal mica]

AHA!

[lament niche]

silence, grandpa

[coarse vine]

They were very different. 😜

[lament niche]

Btw, are you ever gonna have me show you those beam techniques?

[radiant swallow]

i am getting denied my wonderful 1200 bauxite because i don't have mk6 belts :(

[smoky forge]

yeah now they are like this #screenshots

[frail sleet]

Also for dimensional depots:

The upgrade for speed is 2x each time

for capacity it is 2x, 1.5x, 1.33x, 1.25x

so the later capacity upgrades are particularly bad, while all speed upgrades have a similar value.

[smoky forge]

capacity is just adding one additional stack

[frail sleet]

yeah

even if you want to spam build, upload speed will give you as much or more materials than capacity would have, very quickly

[coarse vine]

The last one or two capacity upgrades are more of a QoL thing than anything else. Nice to have but definitely not needed.

[frail sleet]

the last few capacity upgrades mainly helps for building HUGE blueprints in one click

because you can make blueprints which instantaneously consume 5 stacks of material

[smoky forge]

i say every upgrade in the alien power is needed

[frail sleet]

and if you store 3 stacks, you cant place those easily - you have to take a couple stacks of 1 or more materials into your bag, let them refill, and then place. Or just make smaller blueprints, which is a limitation to a degree.

[vestal mica]

i wan't to know how you're getting that 1.2x 6th stack

[smoky forge]

6th?

no only 5

[frail sleet]

I derped. It's 5/4 = 1.25x 😄

[coarse vine]

The super sekrit 6th upgrade.

[tacit magnet]

Does anyone know where are Blueprint directory settings are stored?

And have you noticed a bug with this feature where sort order does not stay in or remember how you arranged things?

[hard ivy]

There are no settings. The blueprints are sorted in reverse alphabetical order

[limpid cairn]

guys theres an alternate recipe for oil right?

[viral niche]

what do you need to be able to overclock?

i suppose mam, and some organics?

[reef basin]

for oil? no

for oil-based products? yes, many

[limpid cairn]

if you find snails you can craft them into cells which you can put into your machines

[true swan]

mam, 2 blue slugs

[viral niche]

yeah but i meant overclocking unlocked

[true swan]

one gets crafgted into a cell and researched

[limpid cairn]

should be in the mam

idk if you are new but i honestly dont recommend overclocking everything else besides miners

since the energy consumption grows exponential

like

[true swan]

yeah most of the time i'd rather underclock two machines than overclock one

[polar pollen]

anyone else attack anything they see and pick up all leaves in sight?

[limpid cairn]

2 constructors running on 50% take less energy than 1 constructor running on 100%

while having the same output and input rate

[viral niche]

nope im not new at all been playing since 2020 i believe even sooner, when the game was in testing. Through i just got back to it with my boyfriend

and i forgot somethings

[hard ivy]

Only 20% less. At the cost of doubling the machine count. I wouldn't say that's worth it

[placid stirrup]

It adds up 🙃

[limpid cairn]

most machines dont take that much resources (well im atm at stage 6 and i can pretty much build 100+ of every machine atm)

and honestly its SUPER worth at least for lategame

[versed plinth]

should i make a 200000 MW rocket fuel plant in the blue crater

[ruby mountain]

MAM, powerslugs, blue power slugs, overclock production

[versed plinth]

i have the plan setup but it needs 864 fuel power plants, or 1k power slugs to fully overclock and reduce how many there are...

[limpid cairn]

yes.

btw is it worth overclocking power plants?

[ruby mountain]

If you want to use less space, yeah

[versed plinth]

when you are building 864 probably

[hard ivy]

It only costs shards. No other losses. So if you have the shards and save space, then yeah

[limpid cairn]

i have my coal powerplant over the ocean so i dont think i have space issues

[ruby mountain]

then probably no need

[versed plinth]

its not worth OCing coal plants...

[limpid cairn]

okay

[versed plinth]

they just dont consume enough or produce enough for it to be worth it

[limpid cairn]

also are the geysir powerplants worth using?

[versed plinth]

i never did but probably

its a nice little extra like 150 MW on average

[hard ivy]

It's only 7 GW max if you use them all so I never bother

[versed plinth]

only early game really

[placid stirrup]

I'm a big fan, you can search for them along with all the other collectibles on the map at the same time for free power and an electrical infrastructure across the map

You can automate HSCs fairly early and geyser power ends up covering at LEAST the HSC factory so it's a net gain no matter what

[vague sparrow]

I did something pretty stupid, I think I went afk with radioactive materials in my inventory and my filters ran out lol

So surprised when I was in the hub xD

[brisk stream]

if my pipes are traveling for a long time do i need pumps if they dont rise that much

[vague sparrow]

Machines gives 10m headlift, so just keep an eye on if the flow is steaady over ditance

otherwise you can add a pump here or there to improve it

[tall plover]

"Signals are making the next Stop unreachable" well i went along the full track and theres not a single wrong signal

[placid stirrup]

Station oriented correctly?

[tall plover]

yes

ive placed that a total of 3 times now

[acoustic heart]

Anyone have issues with belting in fuel to drone ports? I have one drone brining in fuel which is going directly into two other drone ports. I watched the fuel enter the drone ports fuel input but the drone ports are saying no fuel

[placid stirrup]

It's possible there's a junction the game doesn't like if you're 100% extra positive the stations are facing the correct way

[tall plover]

okay i just shortened one train station and now it works?

[placid stirrup]

Generally recommended to not have long pipe runs, but if you do, pumps may alleviate sloshing and backflow. Other measures should be taken still to reduce that.

[brisk stream]

i heard about somthing called a water tower, should i do that

[reef basin]

no

[placid stirrup]

Not until you understand the essential fluid rules in the game

[brisk stream]

should i just do a bunch of pumps

[reef basin]

yea

[brisk stream]

okay

[placid stirrup]

Bad greeny

[vestal mica]

If it’s all horizontal, pumps won’t do anything

[brisk stream]

most of its just like this #screenshots

[unkempt blade]

move solids to liquids rather than moving liquids to solids the way nature intended

[vestal mica]

I don’t know. I see a lot more rivers than moving land masses

[reef basin]

why so

[unkempt blade]

it's a trap, don't trust the liquids

[jolly kindle]

Don't put all the pumps next to each other. They reset head lift where they are placed and then add 25(mk1) or 50(mk2) meters more head lift

[placid stirrup]

I thought you were just being tired and responding lazily to a lazy question haha

[vestal mica]

They’re in power saving mode

[reef basin]

there's no reason to do a water tower tbh, just use pumps to reach the height you want to

[jolly kindle]

Unless you want to hide pumps for aesthetics.

[unkempt blade]

why use many word when few word do trick?

[reef basin]

"aesthetics" can be a reason for anything and is the same as "I do it because I want to", neither of which are relevant to my message 😉

[unkempt blade]

yeah but aesthetiness is next to godliness

[placid stirrup]

They were asking about a long horizontal run

[reef basin]

no matter what they are asking about, there's no reason to do a water tower 😛

[radiant swallow]

and now my ratious are off by a tiny bit because i need 800 copper but my mk5 belt can only transport 780 :c

woe is me

[brisk stream]

damn

[reef basin]

if only you could build more belts

[radiant swallow]

im not putting down an entire belt for 20 copper ingots/minute....

[unkempt blade]

all I know is if we didn't care about aesthetics we'd be off playing factorio with all the all degenerates

[placid stirrup]

They might add that feature in 1.2

[vestal mica]

but is there a reason to do a "bunch of pumps" as you advised?

[reef basin]

then you wouldn't have the amount you need 🤷
(and personally I wouldn't care about small amounts on a belt)

[reef basin]

as I said, "just do pumps to reach the height you need"

[radiant swallow]

im only playing this game because i beat factorio and now just want to beat this game lol

[jolly kindle]

Set clock speeds to even out the machines to run with 780 input.

[reef basin]

that's a bit harsh

aesthetics in Factorio are a thing

[radiant swallow]

fun fact, i will take longer to beat this game than factorio space age solely because the time for me to build something in this game takes 10x longer lol

[vestal mica]

oh the thing you said much later after saying "yea" to should i use a bunch of pumps?

[mint jetty]

How do people move items down vertically to make a logistics floor?

[reef basin]

instead of a water tower? yes

[radiant swallow]

i have 1600 alu ingots and want to use up all of them, that means i can feed them into 8 133% OC assemblers and need 800 copper lol

[brisk stream]

how do i split 1 line into 5 equally

[jolly kindle]

Conveyor lift hole

[unkempt blade]

factory genre holy war! rabble rabble rabble! 😆

[radiant swallow]

you built balancers lol

[mint jetty]

Thanks

[vestal mica]

but they weren't elevating hte liquid. i think your key word prompts are misfiring

[reef basin]

split into 6 and merge one back

or just use manifold

--S--S--S--S--S
  |  |  |  |  |

[brisk stream]

thats not equally :dface:

[radiant swallow]

yeah this is what i do 99% of the time

[midnight wind]

which one will i need more, steel beams or steel pipes? currently my factory has 40 pipes/m and 15 beams/m and i'm thinking about balancing it out

[reef basin]

the question was "I heard about water tower, should I do that"

[jolly kindle]

Found in the awesome shop

[reef basin]

it will equalise over time

[vestal mica]

yeah, and the question had context

[brisk stream]

is it fine for pipes or is it different

[radiant swallow]

get solid steel ingots and make more, trust me you will need it lol

[reef basin]

for pipes especially you want to do that

[vestal mica]

"if my pipes are traveling for a long time do i need pumps if they dont rise that much"

[reef basin]

that was like 50 messages back and not "in context" for people that just opened the chat

[midnight wind]

it's an alt recipe right

[unkempt blade]

1 splitter => 3 splitters with 2 outputs each => 5 outputs go to whatever and one loops back to the first splitter

[radiant swallow]

correct and it is so much worth it

go and gacha a bit

[vestal mica]

it was approx 7 messages back and the messages in between were almost entirely in reference to it

it's called a conversation. your auto responses don't always work to an individual message

[unkempt blade]

my attention span is only 5 messages long because I'm using too much of my vast brain power thinking about factory carts 😦

[jolly kindle]

Yes it uses iron ingots and coal to make steal ingots. Very good especially if you combine it with pure iron ingots or iron/copper alloy ingots.

[reef basin]

except there's no connection between those messages. Many people just ask another question while leaving the context of the original one.

And I'm pretty sure that the person can speak for themselves and doesn't need you to tell me how I should speak to them

[midnight wind]

time to go search for more crash sites ig

[brisk stream]

ight this is probally fine for a manifold

[vestal mica]

i'm speaking fo rmyself. i'm just letting you know why people said "bad greeny" because you seemed confused.

[radiant swallow]

yes. you should honestly just unlock as many milestones as you can and research all alt recipes so you don't have to gamble too much later on. just ignore the 2 coal recipes lol

[brisk stream]

#screenshots

[reef basin]

except that's not why they said it, as explained by them above

[midnight wind]

i love gambling

[radiant swallow]

i love to gacha too

[radiant swallow]

pro tip: if it's not a recipe you want, just don't select any alt recipe and scan the next HDD until you find the one you want because that way you are preventing the gacha machine to roll the same recipe you don't want again

[vestal mica]

yeah, explained to you that the context was about a long horizontal run.

[brisk stream]

why do the farther pipes have less capacity ????

[reef basin]

pipes have the same capacity per distance

[slender quest]

Good thing you have a choice to leave it to exclude the 2 recipes you just got from the pool of next hard drives.

[jolly kindle]

You could tighten that up a lot to save space. Put the pipe splitters a few meters from the machines and run the pipe down the line.

[hard ivy]

capacity is proportional to length

[midnight wind]

that's what i've been doing, i scanned 3 drives in a row to get alt for reinforced plates

[radiant swallow]

good. makes the gacha mechanic bearable lol

[vestal mica]

I thought you were just being tired and responding lazily to a lazy question haha
They were asking about a long horizontal run

[jolly kindle]

Quick tip: if you get a drive with recipes you don't need leave them in the library and both recipes will be taken out of the pool for future drives.

[vestal mica]

if you pick one, that one is also taken out of the pool

[radiant swallow]

that is exactly what i described, yes lol

[jolly kindle]

I must've missed that msg

[radiant swallow]

if you don't pick any, both are out of the pool

[placid stirrup]

Bro what are you doing

[late pier]

Hey so I just tamed my first lizard doggo, can I get it to not follow me? I dont want it to die

I just want it to stay at my hub

[reef basin]

cage it

[late pier]

ig that works

[placid stirrup]

Do they not fall through the map anymore?

[jolly kindle]

I left some doggos in a walled area. Came back hours later and they were gone.

[reef basin]

foundations 😉

[late pier]

yea thats what I was thinkin

[jolly kindle]

I took the foundations out so they could play on the grass I guess they dug out and died.

[placid stirrup]

Lizard duggo

[late pier]

daamnn

Lizard diedo

[jolly kindle]

No more free late game parts. 😦

[midnight wind]

when are trains unlocked

[late pier]

tier 5 or 6

I think 5

[vague sparrow]

fun fact, ada calls you a psychopath when you nuke a doggo 😅 I accidentally killed one once when I was bombing those green spider monstrosities, casualty of war 😢

[stone bridge]

How do I get a lot of grass or bushes? Is there a farm?

[naive palm]

[fluid sapphire]

Hold E while running through bushes

The world is the farm

[white dawn]

The chainsaw (as Darkmushroom's icon indicates) is the area-of-effect way to gather a bunch; can combine that with spamming E as you move around, of course. There's nothing faster in-game, though.

[naive palm]

sounds like a nice break from being called an inefficient ape.

[white dawn]

And no, there's no farm-type aspect to the game; there's no way to place new foliage, or get old foliage to regrow, etc.

[fluid sapphire]

There's a billion times more trees/bushes on the map than you could possibly use (while it remains useful)

[vague sparrow]

You could also kill monsters and use the protein for biomass, this gives the highest yield

combined with a somersloop you will drown in the grass

[fluid sapphire]

Protein is better used for coupons, after unlocking production booster

[vague sparrow]

well sure, buy just 50 protein will get you to the midgame right from the start lol

infinite early game power vs maybe 5-10 tickets, its a trade-off

[naive palm]

I think that would be legit advice if grass and wood wasn't so easy to farm.

[vague sparrow]

Thaat's true, I like to keep some forests intact though and in one exploration run I usually end up with like 1k protein

[fluid sapphire]

I don't remember the ticket point tresholds for the first tickets but you can definitely get a lot more if you keep all the protein in a chest somewhere until researching sloops

Best source of early game coupons

[stone bridge]

what changes from the ground 1m to the others?

[vague sparrow]

yeaah if you use all of it you can get alot more, but just using a little bit of protein for fuel saves running around for sticks and leaves

[fluid sapphire]

Sure

[vague sparrow]

Altough some caves are filled with branches, which makes it easy to mass grab wood

[hard ivy]

Imma be honest, ever since that feature was added, I have not sunk a single DNA Capsule. The points I get from parts are enough
I like hoarding the protein

[vague sparrow]

try gathering like 2k DNA and sink it, you will be surprised lol

[fluid sapphire]

Huh

[nocturne orbit]

wait, who's Jason? Is that Jace?..

[stone bridge]

what changes from the ground 1m to the others?

[fluid sapphire]

You shouldn't need nutty amounts of biomass anyway, just enough to get you to coal as fast as possible

[vague sparrow]

what do you mean ewxactly?

I went from biomass to coal with like 6 generators, it's pretty quick

[stone bridge]

of the foundations

[vague sparrow]

what changes is the height

[fluid sapphire]

I had 5 biomass burners, 2 of which were the ones on the hub

[vague sparrow]

1m, 2m, 4m

[fluid sapphire]

Prior to coal

I hear people building like 16 and I get confused xd

[vestal mica]

different sizes and shapes, but I think they all use the same amount of materials

[vague sparrow]

tbf, if you dont have many resources, biomass does not burn when not used, so if you run into power issues it can act as a make-shift sort of battery, albeit not a very large one

[fluid sapphire]

For what it's worth, using 4m foundations makes aligning stuff vertically much easier

[vestal mica]

what do yo mean?

[vague sparrow]

4M gets you higher up much faster going vewrtical

10x 4m foundations for a new level vs 40 regular ones, if you need to add new floors

[fluid sapphire]

Lots of stuff like all kinds of walls and windows are 4m tall, so if you vertically build in 4m increments it's much easier to get everything to line up, compared to having 1m and 2m foundations in there

[vestal mica]

i see.

i use walls to figure out the height to the next floor anyway

[old badger]

If you build a boatload of biomass burners at the very start of the same, and automate the conversion of grass/wood to biofuel and feeding them all, that whole setup only takes minutes to build, but then gives you leeway to have plenty of power to produce a really big / well-thought-out starter factory requiring lots of power before you reach coal, and is something scalable into being useful later in the early game rather than scrapping/restarting with a better build after you get more power

[wicked nacelle]

I find it easy to accidentally offset the next floor by 1m and then the walls don't line up right anymore per floor

[vague sparrow]

I do this too, then i just add a 1m peace and pretend it doesn't exist xD

piece*

[wicked nacelle]

I do the exact same thing

[fluid sapphire]

That's certainly one way to go at it, personally I just find it easier to build something new with better belts and whatnot, rather than try to scale up an old facility by upgrading the belts, adding more machine and whatnot

[old badger]

both of them take time, so it's just a matter of preference / playstyle

[fluid sapphire]

It's just a pattern that I find not very useful - trying to upgrade old facilities that were not built to be upgraded

[wicked nacelle]

I agree except for going mk5 to mk6 I will usually have not overclocked everything so I upgrade belts, overclock and get more oomph out of an existing factory

[vague sparrow]

And I am not sure how this happened, but I used the world grid for both sides, still misaligned, might have made a mistake somewhere perhaps #screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

Yes, that's because at that point you build with some foresight

[last tartan]

did the devs change the crismon forest? i recall it looking a lot more.. scary before 1.0

[fluid sapphire]

But not at the start of the game

[wicked nacelle]

also because you don't have infinite shards with mk5 belts - I don't give me too much credit 🙂

[old badger]

well my point is that you do build them to be upgraded. ie, you play "as if" you already had coal-power-levels of power early on, and then the factory already is in a state it was meant to be when you get there

[fluid sapphire]

My angle is from a new player perspective, not someone who already knows what's up

[placid stirrup]

You can only do this after 1-2 playthroughs

[pure musk]

I can't be the only one who refers to coal as "high-calorie rock candy" can I?

[old badger]

yeah like I said, matter of playstyle. My method is preferred by people who've already played lots

[naive palm]

I keep my little biomass setup near the hub for nostalgia. It reminds me of simpler times when I'm working out supercomputer logistics.

[placid stirrup]

Of course not, that's what they called it in 1910 as well

[vague sparrow]

I did not keep in mind the upgradeable part on my 2nd save, Had to break down the entire starter factory once i unlocked t2 and coal, was not a fun experience 😛

[old badger]

yeah we all do that lol

[vague sparrow]

after that I just upgraded belts and added shards everywhere to keep it in somewhat liveable condition while I build a new factory

[old badger]

for a while every time I started I just went in with "this is the factory I'm going to delete in a little bit" mentality

[placid stirrup]

Starter base will pretty much always get torn down for me, after that I'll just build new instead of repurposing

[vague sparrow]

I gengerally use starter base to supply some DDs for building mats

generally*

[naive palm]

we're well into the realm of taste and preferences; I usually only break a factory down when I get a significantly better alt recipe for what it produces. Even then some of starter factories stick around just to constantly pump out the essentials (plates, concrete, rods, wire, etc)

there comes a point midgame where you start blueprinting and it becomes trivially easy to reconfigure factories.

We'll never have what them factorio boys do - but you can still build decent modular machine setups that slot into one another.

[old badger]

yeah the big blueprints are just a "factory in a box for a new node I came across" 😛

[naive palm]

I need to work on getting more value out of the large vertical space blueprints offer.

[last tartan]

guys i got too close to a diarrhea spider

he murdered me in 4 seconds

[old badger]

even better, start trying modular blueprints that you can stack next to or ontop of each other that just linearly scale throughput. Not like manifold blueprints, but rather one that takes in a resource, then produces an entire chain to the end, and then stacking em together actually combines the whole chain

there's some great tutorials on youtube

[ruby marlin]

is it worth getting a dedicated server just for it continuing to make mats while offline or only really worth it for multiplayer

[hard ivy]

build a better factory

[reef basin]

honestly if you need to make stuff while offline, you should make more, not afk

[ruby marlin]

true 🙂 not really having resource issues, just watching some youtube videos and seems to many mention servers 😛

just wanted to make sure i wasnt "missing out" on some 😄

[unkempt blade]

or build a bad factory with more intensity like our predecessors would have wanted for us

[radiant swallow]

can i somehow mark a step as "done" in the factory planner?

[hard ivy]

the factory planner
there's like 6

or rather, like 6 I know of

[unkempt blade]

I take a screenshot and circle stuff in my notes app 😆

[radiant swallow]

so no

[main topaz]

Normally if I'm going to idle to get the amount of a product I want made instead of boosting production, I'll run around the world collecting hard drives, slugs, loops and orbs spheres.

[hard ivy]

I have no clue which one you're talking about.
But satistically, no, most don't have this feature

[astral knot]

is sulphur used for anything else other than black powder?

[radiant swallow]

im using satisfactory tools

[reef basin]

you could move the box out of the way 😄

[radiant swallow]

sulfuric acid lol

[vague sparrow]

You could drag said building to the side of the rest of it?

[unkempt blade]

yes 🙂

[radiant swallow]

a little lackluster but i guess it'll do lol

[pastel lake]

just had a panic attack after setting up my fuel generators because one kept turning off and on, turns out i'd forgotten to upgrade the conveyor lifts to T3 and the polymer resin was clogging everything up

[vague sparrow]

Like, make a corner on the template for finished buildings

[unkempt blade]

take deep breaths and think about how joyful factory carts and lizard doggos are until you calm down

[vague sparrow]

compacted coal also requires sulfur to make turbo fuel

[old badger]

yep turbo fuel is a big one

sulfur very important

[pastel lake]

oh i've sorted it now, still slightly worried about balancing the numbers, because of one refinery, but i have overflow for everything

[astral knot]

also im not sure how useful trains are but i kinda wanna try them

[vague sparrow]

also infused uranium cells needs sulfur

[unkempt blade]

I still recommend thinking about how joyful factory carts are. There's never a bad time for it

[vague sparrow]

Trains are great, go for it, the station animations are top tier

[old badger]

trains are amazing you want them

[pastel lake]

y'know, i haven't bought on yet this go around, i should get one and make it bounce on a pad for all eternity like i normally do

[astral knot]

i dont exactly have any "large amount of thing" to be transporting yet

[vague sparrow]

You can start small to test the waters

[unkempt blade]

Do you have small amounts of things to transport? Because factory carts are perfect for that

[hard ivy]

you can if you only want to

[vague sparrow]

or decide to design a new factory that requires 15k/min iron or something

[steel quiver]

Phase 4 is going to kill me just wrapping my head around what to do

[astral knot]

unless you count the little blue residue from refineries which i already just dump into the awesome sink

[old badger]

you want to put together the infrastructure for having railways connect all your bases early on whether or not you're immediately using them

[radiant swallow]

i've been sitting on phase 4 for like.... a week now and i just now am done with planning... now i need to upgrade like... 2 production lines and make about 16 factories...

[unkempt blade]

take a break and build a huge totally excessive train network until you sort it out

[vague sparrow]

1 step at a time, just create some small factories making dedicated items for each piece, later on you can combine them all into 1 factory to create all of the parts

[austere lichen]

This is me at phase 3 already

[steel quiver]

Are you using trains? I'm trying to go with trains but can't get them to work yet, too buggy with junctions.

[radiant swallow]

i hate building the stupid rail network because blueprints are just not good enough for this, so i will just use drones

[steel quiver]

I want a factory that needs 7 trains, that seems too much, but, I can't find any reference

[astral knot]

i have 4 bases rn, one is my main base with all the iron, copper, and steel stuff, another is the place where most of my electronics are made, and another is my coal stuff and the little minibase with a SAM miner, and the last is the oil stuff

can i at least ride the train though

[steel quiver]

I guess I'll slow way way way down and take a week to plan

[radiant swallow]

yes you can if you like doing that. i travel with the hypertube cannon though lol

[radiant swallow]

something something 90% grinding the axes

[white dawn]

If you've not used trains before, it can be a bit of a learning curve to set something up which requires a bunch

[shrewd lagoon]

how many nuclear power plants do you guys go for? Made a flowchart for 50~ but idk

[white dawn]

But that many trains is entirely feasible; the train system should expand quite well

Once you know how to set up signals, your intersections should be rock-solid; can always post in #1038092680493801533 with pictures and such if you're having problems

[smoky knoll]

Was the path just some localization ?

[humble osprey]

Has anyone played satisfactory plus yet?

[smoky knoll]

*patch

[white dawn]

If you're just getting started with train signalling, remember that you can always use only block signals and things will work. Busy intersections may not be as "efficient" as they would be with Path signals, but it'd at least get things working for you

[limpid cairn]

Is there a way to acquire hard drives with crafting or buying from the shop?

[smoky knoll]

in shop ye but not worth

[white dawn]

Though with a factory taking seven loads in from trains, I expect the intersection leading into your material-collection area would probably benefit from Path Signals

[smoky knoll]

the time it takes to get tickets for 1 drive ... can find dozens of drives in the wild

[limpid cairn]

How much tickets ?

[white dawn]

There's also giving yourself items via Advanced Game Settings, or with the SCIM save editor (https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map)

Drives don't become available in the shop until pretty late in the game, btw (not sure exactly when)

!wikisearch awesome+shop

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=awesome+shop

[white dawn]

^The wiki should have info on how many coupons things cost

[limpid cairn]

Okay thx

100 for 1 hard drive 💀

[hard ivy]

there's more HDDs on the map than you could ever use so no reason to buy them imo

[last tartan]

gang how do i retrieve mycelia

[south sinew]

find some and pick it up or chainsaw it

[vague sparrow]

cut down those treelike things in the red forest

[brisk stream]

whoa fall damage cancel

press P - R - R

[vague sparrow]

the bulbous things with green orbs on them

[last tartan]

😭 i dont wanna go all the way back up there

wait they are in the purple biome place right

[brisk stream]

its in the dessert too

[wicked nacelle]

anything that looks mushroomy or dead woody or coraly has myc

[vague sparrow]

xD well those give the most mycelia i believe

[vague sparrow]

middle of the map red/purle forest yes

[fading compass]

kung fu

dms

[radiant swallow]

you should save them up for construction things and for the golden nut if you want achievements lol

[limpid cairn]

Im saving rn dw

I bought everything needed already

[fading compass]

whoever wants to they can join my world and help me get started if u wnt

[reef basin]

not a good idea to publicly share this

(also #1201555265942724758 is a thing)

[humble osprey]

Share what?

[reef basin]

link for joining

[humble osprey]

I see

[wicked nacelle]

i wish you could set what the default settings on a smart splitter were. If I could just it to all/all/all I'd never put down another normal splitter ever again

[hard ivy]

why..?

[fading compass]

i just need help making the space elevator and getting automation

[wicked nacelle]

priority merger defaults are same as regular merger, why is smart splitter gotta be different?

[white dawn]

Mm, yeah, that'd be nice

I'd upvote that one if it's on the Questions site. :)

[astral knot]

oh my god youre joking. now i have to bring all that black powder to my refineries that are like thousands of meters away

[wicked nacelle]

hypertube cannon

make a blueprint for one (a big one) and then just splat it down whenever you need to travel. If you don't have jetpack, parachute will work

once you start seeing the game from the sky your whole perspective on the scope of the map changes drastically

[astral knot]

another conveyor belt serpent woohoo

[wicked nacelle]

do you actually need to automate it vs just carrying over a player inventory supply of it and throwing it in a crate?

[astral knot]

im not sure if smokeless powder is gonna be used a lot

[wicked nacelle]

not enough that it's worth pulling long belts earlier in the game, IMHO. And eventually you'll need to figure out how to bring a lot somewhere for turbo/rocket fuel and then you can automate black powder and smokeless powder then. 50 stacks in a container will last you a long time 🙂

[astral knot]

i am kinda worried about these long belts

[brisk stream]

yes

[astral knot]

right now i have long belt serpents for plastic, coal, copper ingots

[unkempt blade]

gotta do belts everywhere, it makes the world feel more alive

[wicked nacelle]

plastic? That means you have trains unlocked, right?

[astral knot]

i mean i dont see any other way lol

[astral knot]

yeah i have trains

[wicked nacelle]

go learn trains

[unkempt blade]

vehicles but those are going to take more time to set up than belts 😄

[white dawn]

I'm surprised you didn't say "factory carts" instead of "belts" there. :)

[wicked nacelle]

trains will short term slow you down in building your factory to learn but long term will speed you WAAAAAAAAY up

[prisma yoke]

i want to put my hub somewhere more permanent but i cant decide what to do with it
previously i wouldve put it in the same building as a storage room but storage rooms are kind of obselete now because of the depot

[astral knot]

trains seem like theyd take a while to deliver

[unkempt blade]

if someone doesn't want to run belts they definitey aren't going to want to record a route using factory carts 😄

[leaden turret]

fixed map, no need to study _cart_ography

[dense turtle]

can someone explain how does the caterium tree splitter work

[white dawn]

Keep in mind that with anything doing bulk deliveries (vehicles, trains, drones, etc), the round-trip time doesn't matter at all. It's only throughput

[dense turtle]

cuz idk if i want to unlock it

[astral knot]

i might start making a train track for my coal

[white dawn]

Yes, a train (or vehicle, or drone) might take like six minutes to arrive at its destination, but it'll be carrying six minutes' worth of material for the factory

So once you've had an initial delivery or two, you can treat the vehicle/train/drone just like a long belt

[unkempt blade]

the super summary is you get to set rules for what item(s) go in what direction

[wicked nacelle]

the programmable splitter? just like a smart splitter except you can do multiple things per output

[dense turtle]

oh, then i really need it now

[wicked nacelle]

like you can say "plastic and rubber go left" "cables and wire go right" "everything else goes forward" -- it's pretty useless

[white dawn]

When setting up your vehicle/train/drone route, you do need to make sure that it supports the throughput you need. For vehicles/drones it might mean adding more vehicles/drones to the route, or for trains it might mean adding another car.

Heh, I'd say "niche" rather than "useless." There's various build situations where it's handy.

[dense turtle]

nah right now its the perfect thing i needed

[white dawn]

Though I agree that anything you can do with Programmables you could instead do with a series of Smarts+Mergers. :)

It's basically just a space-saver

Their main benefit is really just that they look cool. :)

[wicked nacelle]

curious what you're doing where that behavior is desirable?

[dense turtle]

big storage hub

[white dawn]

Yeah, central storage systems can often really benefit from programmables if you're using sushi for 'em

[dense turtle]

thats what im doing

[astral knot]

i NEED more plastic

[wicked nacelle]

of course the benefit of a central storage hub is questionable

[white dawn]

Which, again, definitely not necessary, but it's nice having the flexibility of programmables

Sure, as I say: it's niche. But not without its uses given the situation. :)

[wicked nacelle]

don't neglect rubber. It's later but you'll eventually need at least as much rubber as plastic

[astral knot]

oki its train time. i hope im even outputting enough coal for this to be worth using instead of serpents

[wicked nacelle]

whenever I used to make malls like that I'd find that I'd either want way too much of an item type in which case sharing belts wasn't an option or they would be low volume things and sinking excess of them wasn't desirable so it always had to be dedicated belts

[dense turtle]

i plan to have trains pick up everything and store here

[wicked nacelle]

and of course now with dimensional storage.... why?

[dense turtle]

i think it looks good

do i need one dimensional storage per item type?

[wicked nacelle]

"everything" is a lot.

[white dawn]

I too continue to enjoy building Central Storage

[wicked nacelle]

yes, at least one 🙂

[astral knot]

oh my god this thing is huge

[dense turtle]

dang

[wicked nacelle]

that's what.... well you know

[white dawn]

And if you're at a stage where you haven't fully built out your Depots, it can be handy to have a large chunk of resources

[wicked nacelle]

There's LOTS of mercer spheres in the game

[dense turtle]

wait i will show yall what i cooked

[vestal mica]

i started a save with the latest version

[dense turtle]

what the hell 4 input slots machine

[white dawn]

Some large blueprints can really tear through depot materials, even when you've got multiple uploaders

[humble osprey]

How is it?

[white dawn]

(I mean, yes, the solution to that is also "moar uploaders." :D)

[humble osprey]

Do you recommend it?

[humble osprey]

Oh hi there!! How r u doing :)

[white dawn]

(Though I've also built blueprints in the past which literally can't be supplied only from the Depot. Power Storage grids, for instance, can easily require more wire than the Depot alone can provide)

[dense turtle]

#screenshots message

[vestal mica]

its' good so far. i'm not far in. just have basic steel started

[wicked nacelle]

I built mine by a tiny factory that just stockpiled the requirements for that. So I'd just go to the container pick up the stuff build build build pick up more build build build -- in fact a central storage would be bad for that unless you were building the power storage right ther.e

[dense turtle]

on second thought, i dont think i need programmable splitters

[radiant swallow]

which of the 2 heatsink recipes is the better one?

[humble osprey]

@dense bone #screenshots message pay to win

[wicked nacelle]

the one you have stuff for. I use both.

[radiant swallow]

ok, which one of them uses less alu

[dense bone]

i need the mk3 miners man

[astral knot]

should my stations be like, in a loop?

[dense bone]

i cant keep rebuilding everything

[wicked nacelle]

it's really close -- probably depends how you make the casings