satisfactory

[dense turtle]

can i somehow rotate a hipertube entrance on a floor not 90 degrees

[fathom shuttle]

I need 1k dark matter crystals

Jelp me

What’s the problem?

[tall plover]

I dont know how to change the last block signals to always be green

[fluid sapphire]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 with an overhead shot of your rail

[fathom shuttle]

Are superposition oscillators DMC positive?

Oh with dark matter trap they are

I’ll definitely need to co locate this with other factories

I’ll just make the singularity cells, superposition oscillators and Baltic warp drives in the same place

[south sinew]

Baltic warp drives, lol

[dense turtle]

WAIT theres 4 irons holy

truly godly spot

[small sky]

Hi guys I've installed my coal generators, but how do I use the energy I produce?

[fluid sapphire]

connect the generators to your grid

[dense turtle]

2 coppers 1 limestone 4 irons and 1 coal

[pseudo vine]

are there quartz nodes because i cant find any that i can put i miner on

[tall plover]

Is there no setting make the last Block Signal always green?

[south sinew]

there are indeed

[pseudo vine]

ok

[fluid sapphire]

if they are set up correctly, the signals will be green

[lime ermine]

If you scan for the stuff it'll show you the three nearest nodes

[pseudo vine]

ohhh ok

[lime ermine]

You need to research it in the mam first though

[south sinew]

you can't scan for quartz early on I believe

[tall plover]

I only have 3 block signals placed for a junction

2 rails combining into one

[fluid sapphire]

i cant tell from this description what the intersection looks like, but, you should also continue having more blocks outside the intersection

[dense turtle]

is there possibly a way to get rid of these?#screenshots message

[tall plover]

for the entire track?

I'll dm you a picture

[fluid sapphire]

yes, a block is essentially a section between two block signals, that only one train can be in at any given time

so you need signals for your whole network

[tall plover]

oh damn

[dense turtle]

insane i need ur insane knowledge

[fluid sapphire]

i like to think i dont know a lot xd

[dense turtle]

cuz these archs are ruining my whole plan

[fluid sapphire]

there is no way to get rid of them

[dense turtle]

but im guessing its part of the map

yeah 😪

[unkempt blade]

I don't believe the arches can be destroyed

[fathom shuttle]

I need 825 reanimated SAM for the DMC

Why is it so expensive bruh

Oh and 1010 diamonds too

Got enough oil tho thank god

With like 300/min oil to spare

I’m basically using all the oil in the world with oil diamonds I think

[dense turtle]

should i also be making stators?

[fathom shuttle]

They’re needed for other items in the future but not for building

[dense turtle]

so i dont reallyneed to store them

just build them to build other things

[fathom shuttle]

Yea no need

[dense turtle]

got it

[fathom shuttle]

@wicked nacelle how did you manage 40/min BWD? I’m doing 15 and it’s driving me insane lol

[wicked nacelle]

yeah it's not easy...basically built my whole setup again but bigger to get from 15 -> 40

what boggles my mind is that you can do double what I did

cuz I'm out of a ton of stuff including power and oil and nitrogen and aluminum

[pseudo vine]

so i made a manifold coal power plant and whenever i supply coal to all the generators but they somehow always run out of coal

[wicked nacelle]

how long did you wait for the manifold to fill the machines at the front first?

[fathom shuttle]

It’s just weirdly very resource intensive, like you never expect dark mater crystals to be the most expensive thing lol

[dense turtle]

what belt are u using

[pseudo vine]

till all the generators had 100

[pseudo vine]

mk 2

[dense turtle]

and is the coal pure

[wicked nacelle]

and how many coal gens are you trying to run on that manifold?

[pseudo vine]

let me check

[pseudo vine]

8

[fathom shuttle]

Yea if you optimize everything for BWD, but I think you’d run out of sloops so you can’t even sloop the BWD

[dense turtle]

im guessing if u let everything fill up and then u run out of coal u dont have enough coal

[fathom shuttle]

It takes a while

[wicked nacelle]

yes, I'm also out of coal and quartz.

[fathom shuttle]

Turn off the first 2 machines until the last one fills up

[fathom shuttle]

Because of diamonds?

[wicked nacelle]

every last little bit is going to diamonds. Actyually I overdid it a little, but still. it's more than a full mk6 belt of dark crystals just feeding the manufacturers

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I was going to do pink diamonds but the lazy route (oil diamonds) is still viable for the 880/min DMC I need

I’m also making 25/min singularity cells because I want to build some portals

This is the last big project of my world, all that’s left after this is to gather a few more hard drives and complete the MAM trees then end phase 5

[wanton apex]

Is liquid biofuel significantly better? or even just worth the effort needed to put into it?

[fathom shuttle]

It’s kind of the best option until you get rocket fuel

[wanton apex]

o? alright then sick

[fathom shuttle]

Use animal remains for the solid biofuel and sloop the constructors

Yoh don’t need that much solid biofuel btw, maybe 1k-2k is enough

[wanton apex]

I just keep chopping down foliage and throwing it into my crafters to make solid biofuel, so i have an industrial storage container full, plus i just added a second one- i could probably start shooting it into the sink or smthn

[wise junco]

make liquid biofuel! it's nice for the jetpack 🙂

[wanton apex]

can i hold down the jetpack for longer with it? I imagine I would make the liquid biofuel regardless because it'd give me more in the sink

ah, looked at the jetpack wiki entry and apparently yes i can

it seems incredible actually, I can just transport a bunch of my solid biofuel for turning into packaged liquid biofuel

How much of the oil processing products should I consider making per minute?

[boreal agate]

the jetpack starts feeling great when you get to jetfuel. But it goes a lot farther if you tap it instead of holding it down

the fuel may not last longer but you get more acceleration as you process it

[last tartan]

ADA JUST SWORE AT ME

[wanton apex]

honestly liquid biofuel is so much better than the solid biofuel I've been using up 'till this point that i'd be perfectly fine with that jump alone

[fathom shuttle]

Choo choo motherfucker

[last tartan]

🤣

[fathom shuttle]

Use it with hypertube cannons to get really far

Or a jump pad

[wanton apex]

ooh maybe

[fathom shuttle]

Jumpads can give a huge boost if you slide at the perfect time

Run towards it and slide

[wanton apex]

fr tho, I've got 720 crude oil/min to play with, any tips on how I should divy it up with rubber and plastic and such?

[last tartan]

I just got hyped about trains but can’t even use them until I get plastic

[fathom shuttle]

You can turn it into a lot of rubber and plastic with the proper recipes

Get these recipes first if you want a lot of plastic and rubber
Recycled plastic and rubber
Diluted fuel
Heavy oil residue

[wanton apex]

I've got all the oil related recipes I think, Diluted fuel is locked for me 'till I get to tier 7

[last tartan]

These constructors making WILD sounds with somersloops

[wicked nacelle]

packaged diluted fuel is the same inputs/outputs just slightly more fun to set up 🙂

[wanton apex]

My big concern is "how much of each product should i make" like 20/min? 50/min?

[prisma yoke]

I think every time I unlocked one of the finishes in the awesome shop it looked less good than i expected

but i was like "surely this next one will be better"

some of them are nice for pipes though

[last tartan]

yall, to operate a jetpack do i need fluid packaging?

[wanton apex]

nah you can use solid biofuel

[last tartan]

probably super inneficient tho lol

im gonna get fluid packaging

[wanton apex]

it's manageable

I carry around a full slot of solid biofuel for my jetpack and i can go on full explorations without running out

[last tartan]

on second thought i desperately need copper sheets so nvm 😭

[velvet root]

@willow dawn Just passed like 16 hours straight 😭

[last tartan]

somersloops are possibly the weirdest thing ive seen

time to collect moer!!!1!1!!1

[prisma yoke]

I remember the first time I unlocked jump pads i did it just because the logo for the landing jelly thing looked sooo good and when i placed one down that was probably the most disappointing moment ive ever had in this game

[left totem]

fair enough

I remember getting fall damaged and thinking to myself : Wait what

[sweet tusk]

I saw some people in a video talking about automating solid biomass. Is there actually a way to automate biomass now? I haven't played this game since update 4 of pre release.

[misty summit]

yeah you can

in constructor

[sweet tusk]

How does that work, is there something that collects biomass?

[misty summit]

you have to gather the leaves/wood yourself and input into a constructor or a storage container

then belt em 😄

[sweet tusk]

Oh okay. That's not exactly the automation I was thinking it was.

[frail sleet]

I consumed a few thousand coke (for aluminum) and many hundreds of plastic and rubber

and when doing a world build it's more like 5000 plastic

you can use what you can make

[wanton apex]

ahh, wowza

[wicked nacelle]

any number you can make now won't feel like enough later, so don't worry about it. same with power.

just make enough for now because you'll get better tools for doing more later

[viral egret]

ok so if i want 3 assemblers for rotors, that's 300 screws in, which means at 40 per constructor, that's... 7.5 constructors... goddamit whyyyy

[frail sleet]

e.g. plastic ai limiters can feed crystal oscillators, control rods, supercomputers, buildgun

[viral egret]

everything was going so smooth till now

[wicked nacelle]

so just make 8. underclock one to 50% if that's important to you

[viral egret]

i dont have underclock yet

[wicked nacelle]

go get it

[misty summit]

grab a slug

[frail sleet]

you dont need to use full clock/uptime

for example you can do 15 rods (1 constructor) + 75 screws (2) - per assembler

[wicked nacelle]

it takes a shard and a slug to unlock... I have faith in you

belt balancers are easy but belt SPACERS are not. I want an even flow of 80 units per minute and it's a PITA

[viral egret]

PITA?

[wicked nacelle]

pain in the ass

[viral egret]

i see

[wicked nacelle]

I can do it with a 480 belt split to 240 then split to 80

[viral egret]

ok i think i unlocked overclocking? cool, i already had the mats, didnt know it was this easy

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1398830911130177606/image.png?ex=6886ca4e&is=688578ce&hm=c4e09344ec2963b115ab099a3e7db9c0dee3cd513b7987156453db57ecd77ce6& yay, a nice procession of BWDs

[misty summit]

what is bwd

[wicked nacelle]

of of the items in the last tier of elevator stuff

it's the object that's worth the most sink points -- almost 3 million each

it's possible to make about 160/m (apparently) but I'm making 80 and am very happy with that

[misty summit]

oh

those are NUKE NOBELISKS for anyone else wondering

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1398834166728228975/image.png?ex=6886cd56&is=68857bd6&hm=5647de6b86dfce52c03b0f0fcd4705bd9ee5433dee0fd97897dfa3586b234e20&

the one on the left is the nuke nobelisk. the thing I'm making is on the right

[rich torrent]

whenever I spawn in i have 154 stators in my Dimensional depo upload thing even though i never put them ther

[leaden ether]

If you take them out are they there the next time?

[bronze atlas]

anyone know if there is an easy way to see your vertical coordinates in the game? i know i can get x,y from the map but im wondering how to find the verticality info

[leaden ether]

There is a mod that'll show it but yeah, I've not seen anything in game

[bronze atlas]

unfortunate. okay thanks

[rich torrent]

yes its duplicating them

[leaden ether]

Too bad it's not something worth more but... Free Stators I guess :D

[rich torrent]

I mean i dont want it to keep happaning ya know

Can i submit a bug report here or do I do it in game?

[wicked nacelle]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/ is the official bug/request site

[wicked nacelle]

you're the second person to mention that I've seen in the past couple days.

[rich torrent]

same issue or same number of stators in depo?

[rich torrent]

found a solution on there tuvm!!!

[wicked nacelle]

can you link the issue you found?

[rich torrent]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/66ecc5b9772a987f4a8bae00

I emptied it all out respawned

[ivory inlet]

do you guys consider using a hypertube launcher cheating? just built one if my world for the first time and it kinda feels like cheating haha

[rich torrent]

I built a ladder to world height and used it to parachute arround

[stone python]

no, they the fastes way to get across the map

[stiff ibex]

elytra tower

[leaden ether]

They ca be the fastest way to travel AND cheating :D But given it's just an in game mechanism and they have no plans for "fixing" it. If you are cheating anything it ight just be losing the motivation to put in a road system or other more scenic travel mechanism.

[stiff ibex]

load your save file into the SCIM website

[wicked nacelle]

the game makes travel painful otherwise -- 100% not cheating. I have a blueprint and I just drop one down whereever I am and go flying n-- and the end game portal buildings are so stupid. they're just worse than cannons

[rich torrent]

the slide bunny hop thing is so fun in this game ngl

[last tartan]

unlimited powuhhhh

it makes you go faster, jump higher, its amazing

[leaden ether]

Portal system is nice to setup, it's only real issue is it comes SO late in the game and by the time you get it set up, you are already done with your playthrough and onto a new save.

[last tartan]

only con is the issue with trying to do it up hills and... stopping..

[rich torrent]

Honestly it changed the game for me
from a good game to a great game

[last tartan]

it went from a great game to an even greater game 🤩

[fast cove]

I have a lot of oil rigs, but only 1 is pure what should I make out of it?

Like to make the best of the speed

[velvet root]

How do I change the angle of the hypertubes

[hollow vector]

can anyone help be get satisfactory running on linux?

it just goes stuck on the loading screen part way thru

[boreal musk]

what do you need currently? power? plastic and rubber? 1 pure oil is a lot

[fast cove]

I would like power

[main topaz]

Are you using Steam? The game worked when using the current version of proton.

[boreal musk]

with heavy oil residue + diluted (packaged) fuel alt, 1 pure oil node can give you 20GW power in total

[south sinew]

that's not exactly true

it's gonna be 10GW if you're using DPF because you don't have pipe mk2 to get the oil

[boreal musk]

?

mk2 pipe is easy to get

[fast cove]

Oh wow that sounds like a lot, I need to get my hands on diluted packaged fuel never heard of that

[south sinew]

pretty sure mk2 pipe is in tier 7 when diluted packaged fuel is a tier 5 recipe

[boreal musk]

no, mk2 pipe is tier 6

[fast cove]

What is diluted

[boreal musk]

diluted packaged fuel is a tier 5 recipe

unlocked when you have packaging milestone

[fast cove]

What color is it?

[boreal musk]

assuming you have the hdd to scan it

its an alt

[south sinew]

ah

you're right that mk2 pipe is t6, but it does require HMF, so you basically have to be ready to move on to tier 7 before you can unlock it, unless you found some HMF at a crash site or something

[boreal musk]

eh, hmf is easy to hand craft just to get mk2

you only need like 50 of them

[boreal musk]

it is a powerful recipe, altho with packaged alt you need to loop the packaged-unpackaged but that is easy with blueprint

[fast cove]

Ok thanks

Why I get this message when trying to place train platform (“This must be placed in line with another train platform”)

Wait I think I needed a train station first

[hollow vector]

just put mint on a usb stick and it will guide you with everything

[clever fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dsycwPp6j8

[abstract heron]

Idk why there is no water in the DD

[dreamy shadow]

just wondering, are there any other holiday events like ficsmas planned?

[abstract heron]

Just ficmas if i remember

April fools but really onlly creatures go funky

[ivory inlet]

Another question, is the heavy oil residue alternate recipe good?

[south sinew]

absolutely

it's great for increasing fuel production efficiency

[barren leaf]

just curious does coal power become almost redundant after we get oil power?

[ivory inlet]

sweet ty!

[south sinew]

yes

[barren leaf]

kinda like, better off using it for extra steel production instead i dunno

[south sinew]

the power produced by coal is simply negligible compared to something like a diluted fuel setup

[barren leaf]

hell ye, good to know

[ivory inlet]

haha this is my first play through so I have no idea which ones are good

I have heard a lot about diluted fuel so I have been on the lookout for that one

[reef basin]

all alt recipes are "good" at something, it's up to you whether you want the "something"

[south sinew]

that's.. sorta untrue

[reef basin]

?

[south sinew]

the magnitude of the "something" can vary pretty wildly

[atomic notch]

Real

[south sinew]

for example, HOR + DPF is like a 5x increase in fuel output

[reef basin]

at the cost of extra complexity

[south sinew]

that's a huge increase that most other alts can't offer even with extra complexity

[reef basin]

but that doesn't make my message untrue?

[atomic notch]

Lol

[south sinew]

that's why I said "sorta"

to be completely specific, most alts may be good for something, but some alts are crazy bananas great, like diluted fuel, and others are just.. fine, like cast screw (and some I argue are pretty crap, like biocoal)

it's not like all alts are created equal and situational

[atomic notch]

I use biocoal for stuff

[reef basin]

again though, that depends on personal preference

not all alts are equal for given preferences, that's obviously true

but my point was that depending on your preferences, you may find any alt useful

[atomic notch]

What? people see things differently from me?

[wicked nacelle]

that doesn't mean that we can't give useful suggestions to people instead of saying "everything's good". How often something is good matters. It's not a yes/no question

[peak wasp]

I love how people just post the ending of the game without a second thought. 2nd time I've seen it now. First was when I accidentally hit the Community tab on steam.

[wicked nacelle]

Try to be helpful instead of "technically correct"

[reef basin]

I didn't say that you can't give suggestions?

But in the same way I can give a suggestion myself. And whether it's "useful" or not is up for the person to decide

[peak wasp]

Do you know what kind of people play this game? Most of us are on the spectrum lol

[reef basin]

if they want more specific help, they can ask (e.g. "I want to save resource X when making Y") and get more specifically tailored answer

[peak wasp]

Nah, I'm just going to post a screenshot of every researched hard drive and ask which recipe is better.

Every.

Time.

[reef basin]

subjective question gets subjective answer 🤷

not to mention that you literally can't compare two recipes 😄

[last tartan]

lol i usually ask

i almost got.. wet concrete 🤢

[reef basin]

what's bad about that?

[peak wasp]

What's wrong with wet concrete?

[south sinew]

nothing wrong with wet concrete

[last tartan]

lol i was told its garbage, i must hunt down whoever misinformed me

[atomic notch]

Lol

[peak wasp]

The numbers are right there. Just....read them?

[south sinew]

well, you're basically just paying power and water to reduce limestone consumption, and water is an extremely free resource if you are based in certain locations

[reef basin]

see this is what I'm talking about 🙂

[south sinew]

so it's really just power you're losing

[atomic notch]

You just trust people like that?

Might as well give em ur controller as well

[grizzled lotus]

I'm personally just getting a taste of this as I'm having a bunch of alt recipes on hold. What I've found is that some just don't make any sense when you get them, but they can be helpful because you want build something at a certain location where certain resources are near to each other and the usual resource isn't.

Some recipes get more complex for like a bit more production (like getting 50% more of something).

[last tartan]

i didnt know what it was produced in 😭

this was before i had a refinery

i went on a big collecting spree and found like 25 hard drives

[reef basin]

people have their personal opinions on recipes and they rarely match with other people's opinions, yet they insist on asking/answering subjective question and I get frowned upon when I try to be a bit more objective and figure out what the OP prefers so I can give better answer

[atomic notch]

I personally dont see a reason to discriminate recipes

[last tartan]

i tend to notice you get a lot of people that just frown upon you in general 💀

[peak wasp]

Don't hate on cast screws. Don't you even.

[south sinew]

cast screw is a perfectly good alt recipe if you acquire it very early on

[last tartan]

i found ways to get entirely around screws

[stiff ibex]

biocoal

[reef basin]

yeah, that's also good at something

[stiff ibex]

good at being the worst

[reef basin]

not really

[grizzled lotus]

to be fair, what you said isn't wrong, but it's not necessarily helpful. That may not be an issue with you, of course, it could jsut be that someone knows so little of the game that they don't know how to make use of hte information. A lot of time that applies to me.

[stiff ibex]

by the time you get that recipe you would already have automated power

[south sinew]

I don't really see any situation in which I would ever want to use biocoal

[reef basin]

that recipe isn't designed to give you power tho

[reef basin]

people have used it in some cases, e.g. ammunition factory that doesn't have coal nearby

[atomic notch]

Gas filters use coal

[grizzled lotus]

is there a mod that lets me control weather more than the permaday mods?

[stiff ibex]

its a blasphemic recipe that spits on automation

[south sinew]

seems extremely unappealing since you would be unable to actually automate gas filters or ammunition

[reef basin]

there are some that just decided to reply to me anytime they are online 🤷 I tend to ignore/block them once I'm done with them. If they don't like what I say, they can block me if they want, idc about that. But I won't just change what I say to conform to what they want me to say

[reef basin]

but neither gas filters nor ammunition are needed in "infinite" amount

[south sinew]

no, but nor do I want to sit around on my ass waiting for them to craft or hand-harvesting biomaterial to feed them

I want to swing in, grab a stack or ten, and leave

[reef basin]

(though again - it's not "you need to like all recipes", it's "all recipes have a use for someone")

[reef basin]

well that's what you do - you grab a stack, feed bio stuff to it, and leave - it will process the bio stuff in the meantime for next visit

[stiff ibex]

i mean someone can make a use out of any recipe doesnt mean its needed or the best there

[reef basin]

"best" depends on personal preferences

[atomic notch]

Alien protein to biocoal is what id do

[reef basin]

and nothing is really "needed" given it's a sandbox game

[south sinew]

preferable to just not harvest the bio stuff at all and instead automate properly

[reef basin]

sure, do that then, I'm not saying you need to do it differently

[brisk stream]

i invited my friend to play satisfactory with me but he is fucking everything up and doing everything unoptimaly its pissing me off so much

[peak wasp]

I had one of those turtle sandboxes as a kid. Loved that thing.

[dense violet]

can't expect much from new people 🙂 takes practice

[atomic notch]

U just gotta be patient with the new peeps

[stiff ibex]

half the people in here would probably feel that way with you, teach him lol

[silver skiff]

i should probably try and get iron wire before doing a motor factory

[brisk stream]

hes played before 😭

[silver skiff]

oh yeah i had a friend in the game earlier and he was messing with my stuff

i wasnt too mad though

[atomic notch]

Hell is other people

Gettin ur supply lines leached is the worst

[brisk stream]

fr

i invited him but now i just want him to leave 😭

[atomic notch]

I was just in a game with a friend and his mic was echoing so bad

[reef basin]

if you have excess iron and not enough copper, go for it 😉

[silver skiff]

yeah i might

there is a pure copper thing pretty close so i might just use both of them

[reef basin]

could also do copper rotor if you have plenty of copper

[grizzled lotus]

can someone show me a picture of a railway blueprint in the mk2 blueprint designer? something that'll make building railways easier.

I was thinking of just building two lanes always

[silver skiff]

although im worried about the power consumption i am getting pretty close to using all my power

but i need the motors to expand my power

[reef basin]

nothing easier than getting more power 😛

coal gens only need rotors 😉

[silver skiff]

true i could just expand the coal power plant

[stiff ibex]

truth nuke

[silver skiff]

i am at 1200 capacity rn

i can probably get up to 2400

[atomic notch]

Im at 69k

😎

[grizzled lotus]

how far apart should I have my two railway lanes

[reef basin]

it's mostly a matter of visual preference, though too close may result in blocks overlapping

[dense violet]

min distance is in the middle of 2 foundations placed side by side

any smaller and you'll have collisions on turns

[peak wasp]

Also you may want to check clearance for the signals. Can remember on those.

[grizzled lotus]

#screenshots message will this work?

[silver skiff]

i think i disconnected a wire or something while deleting the walls on my coal power plant everything just shut down😭

[atomic notch]

Walls🤢

[silver skiff]

i wanted to have a nice building around it

until i needed to expand it and then it looked ugly

[stiff ibex]

yes

[atomic notch]

Just embrace the ugly #screenshots message

[silver skiff]

i wont do it

im so confused what happened to my power

[grizzled lotus]

I have like 7 hard drives scanned twice and none of the recipes I like. should I start hoarding hard drives for stuff or will there be good recipes?

I'd really love if there was a recipe that made things simpler, like a computer recipe

[dense violet]

there's more hard drives than recipes. Just pick one and go

[dense violet]

you can make computers from just oil and caterium if you want

you generally need to combo recipes for that sort of effect

[south sinew]

may as well hold them so that any new drives don't produce the recipes you don't want

[grizzled lotus]

I didn't think of that. will still need to work on it

[dense violet]

that's the reason why 'all recipes are good'

most of their use relies on other recipes and the locations you choose

Some recipes are quite niche. but they are outliers

[silver skiff]

ill just reload a save and hope it does not happen again

[noble topaz]

why do the blade runners look like portal's long fall boots?
#screenshots message

[south sinew]

because now you're thinking with portals

I mean, it's probably because it's similar to existing designs for foot prostheses

[noble topaz]

OH GOD

IM TOO FAR AWAY FROM MY BASE

I SAW A BIG ASS SPIDER

NOPE NOPE NOPE

IM NOT GONNA GET THAT HARD DRIVE FOR AS LONG AS I DONT HAVE GUNS

[ivory inlet]

Found the alt recipe for steel screws today, that one seems really good

especially for my upcoming HMF factory

[willow glen]

when you can combine alts, it gets even better. Can completely eliminate screws from HMF… and coal

[ivory inlet]

Oh man no coal sounds nice haha, I’m gonna have to pretty far for coal since I’m using all the stuff close to me

I gotta figure out trains but truthfully they seem a bit daunting

[earnest patrol]

anyone else notice the odd christmas parts in the blueprint makers?

[clever sandal]

I had once a dream where my bead was surrended conveyor belts and they all ran thru my bed lol

[past hedge]

i have made eye contact with..... The Train... once again....

and uhhh i think it might soon be time for train record 5

[marble torrent]

@sweet tusk I see your photo in #satisfactory-memes... boy do I have a revelation for you

[hexed phoenix]

He needs some space :P

[barren leaf]

how reliable is the vehicle auto pilot pathing?

[hexed phoenix]

50/50 .. Sometimes it works.. Other times it wont

[past hedge]

its an ai car so unreliable

but usually its fine

[hexed phoenix]

Generally I dont have issue with it, if you just do them "carefully" then it works fine - if the vehicle should fall off your sky bridge, it "automatically" restores it self

[past hedge]

cause if it goes off course its supose to just teleport back to the route

[barren leaf]

does it unload and load 100%?

[hexed phoenix]

That part ive never had issue with tbh

[reef basin]

pretty reliable

(meaning "it can finish its route", not "it will follow your path 100% accurately")

[atomic notch]

I wouldnt rely on it for certain things but general production it should do fine

[reef basin]

any production would be fine imo

[grizzled lotus]

thinking of connecting my networks so that any train can reach any station. Is that a good idea or will it introduce problems?

[reef basin]

it's fine, but I wouldn't connect it just for the sake of being connected, I'd only build useful connections

[barren leaf]

hmmmmmm, ok ok neat. guess it bugged out and didnt wanna unload but i rebuilt the station and its fine now

[grizzled lotus]

I feel like it would make things easier as I connect more and more parts of the map. Otherwise I feel I'm building too many isolated stations and factories

[reef basin]

yeah, build the connections you need, but don't force connections everywhere 😉

[hexed phoenix]

Just make sure you can handle the throughput also in terms of loading/unloading and you should be fine :)

Like if you expect to load 1200 Iron Plates / Min into a Tractor, and have a route that takes 10 minutes ... You'll have some issue :)

[atomic notch]

Man i got like 3 more trains to bring in

[barren leaf]

wait aw man I cant use petroleum coke for making black powder?

[reef basin]

unless you build more tractors 😉

[reef basin]

no, there's no recipe that would accept coke and make black powder

[barren leaf]

fair enough

[grizzled lotus]

how do you guys deal with dread/frustration/burn out? I went through a lot of trouble just to get some parts automated, and now I need to automate them again for another more complex part

[boreal musk]

break them into smaller parts

dont do all project in once

do one goal each

[sweet tusk]

What is that?

[dense violet]

take time to explore and do other little things 🙂

[marble torrent]

Press space when your manual crafting and find out 😏

[verbal halo]

300 hours and only now giving up on avoiding manifolds

[sweet tusk]

I always wondered why there were two buttons for crafting

[marble torrent]

Dont worry... I found out the hard way too lmao

[reef basin]

also I know it's a bit of a meme, but I'd heavily recommend avoiding crafting manually

automate asap 😉

[marble torrent]

FICSIT does not approve of non-efficient methods

[sweet tusk]

I'm familiar to an extent. I haven't played since an early update of early access. This is just my first time playing since then and I'm happy to see the game finally finished

[marble torrent]

Im all sorts of happy to see the game finished too. I played loads during early access.

Also checkout the HUB for some cool golden skins for early access pioneers.

[sweet tusk]

I got the game when it was free on epic games years ago when it was like, update 1, 2, or 3. I think I played up to update 4? Then I just found my way back now

[reef basin]

afaik it was never free 🤔

[barren leaf]

wait a sec, im fumbling around trying to set up a truck auto pilot, but I can just use the dimenstional storage instead right? it'll just be a fair bit slower

[reef basin]

dimensional depot is useful for storing items for building and such
it doesn't help you if you want to process the item further

[barren leaf]

i was thinking of doing it with black powder since my refinery is away from my base, would that work?

[stiff ibex]

the dimensional unloader:

[reef basin]

you can't get items from dimensional depot automatically. It's not for transporting materials to factories

[marble torrent]

Interesting, I dont remember it being free either

[sweet tusk]

That's the only reason why I got it. It was one of epic game's three free games they used to do. I imagine they still do it but Satisfactory is the only reason I use the launcher so I'm not sure.

[reef basin]

I'm pretty sure it never was one of the free games 🤔

[willow dawn]

Hahaha take a break. I spend another 12 hours in the game yesterday

[sterile blade]

Some people still did get it for free though, right?
Didn't some keys survive Simon's hunger and made it to some lucky users, after all?

[hybrid valley]

what's the best fuel to use for power if I don't wanna go for nuclear?

[dense violet]

eh, whatever you have on hand.
Every fuel step production effectively just converts other resources to more oil. Because you can always just do more diluted fuel

just use the base recipes for nuclear. It's simple and gives you tons of power

[hybrid valley]

thanks

[stiff ibex]

rocket fuel

its not even close tbh

ionized is only worth it in extremely specific scenarios

[wicked nacelle]

I wish there were a huge upside to nuclear like it not taking nitrogen or something but it sucks a lot of valuable raw materials too

If nuclear didn’t take nitrogen I’d probably move entirely to nuclear. But processing uranium waste takes quite a bit

[dense violet]

nothing used in rocket fuel is useful for anything else, it's true.

[hybrid valley]

dang just how much nitrogen does it take?

[stiff ibex]

power is mostly arbitrary late game anyway

[dense violet]

very little

and that's only for waste processing

[hybrid valley]

ah

[stiff ibex]

i wouldnt say very little

[wicked nacelle]

Waste processing isn’t considered optional for many people

[sterile blade]

The Nuclear power generators are objectively the coolest

[wicked nacelle]

A medium plant takes a bit over two full pipes of nitrogen

That’s maybe 50 reactors?

[stiff ibex]

50 reactors OCed will take far more than 2 full pipes of nitrogen

unless you meant not oced

[dense violet]

if you did a MAX uranium rod, full uranium ore efficiency and wanted to recycle all the waste? about 3000.
which isn't nothing, but gas is almost useless and you can just drone some in

[wicked nacelle]

I run in three and then export whatever is left

“Gas is almost useless” what a troll

[dense violet]

it's whny turbo pressure motor alt is so useful, another use of N gas

[stiff ibex]

thats a ton of nitrogen bruh

[wicked nacelle]

I’m pretty sure that’s not even close to correct either

[dense violet]

what else are you using it for?
and that's only if you're maxxing uranium rods

even with 1.0, there's not a lot of use for n gas. It's a bit of a trash resource. Like iron

[wicked nacelle]

Anyone thinking of believing him go run it through a calculator. It’s not right

[stiff ibex]

rocket fuel/a ton of recipes into the late game parts

[dense violet]

no need for rocket fuel when you have your nuclear set up

[wicked nacelle]

Cobalt apparently doesn’t build big factories. Cuz if I could have more of any single resource on the map it would be nitrogen

[stiff ibex]

theres no need for anything if you dont want to do anything

if you need the nitrogen then youll need the nitrogen, but a quarter of the entire map supply is more than "very little"

[dense violet]

and only fused frames and cooling units use it pretty much after that

it would be totally wild to ever come close to using all the n gas on the map (even if you did full nuclear, which you don't need to do 600gw)

[wicked nacelle]

All of this is begging the question of whether his guess on how much nitrogen is used is even close to correct

[dense violet]

well if you're comparing other things it's used for, why would you make a ton of rocket fuel if you have 600gw of power from nuclear? make a better arguemtn

[wicked nacelle]

The argument is that he’s off by a LOT on how much nitrogen it needs.

[stiff ibex]

because what if you want to get more power? literally any goal you could think of past the last phase of assembly is arbitrary, its a sandbox

[dense violet]

burn the plutonium rods and get 1T

[stiff ibex]

???

[dense violet]

if you're using the gas to make plutonium rods, you can then bur nthe p rods if you somehow need 1T of power.
but your computer will probably melt first

[stiff ibex]

you dont understand what im saying

im not saying youll need 1 TW of power

you never will

every goal you could make is arbitrary after the end phase, so its no less arbitrary to want more power than it is to make ballistic warp drives

[dense violet]

ok then you have a bad argument because I can justt reverse your argument

'why would you ever make Rocket fuel? It uses so much nitrogen gas! what if you want ot use it for something else??'

[hybrid valley]

currently filled with confusion as I bear witness to this discussion

[wicked nacelle]

Cobalt is a massive troll tonight.

[dense violet]

rocket fuel uses a metric ass ton of gas.

And you can just choose to not process the uranium waste and store it using zero gas

[stiff ibex]

you said nitrogen is almost useless and you need very little

[dense violet]

yes, and you made a bad argument for it. An argument so bad it's against your own point

[stiff ibex]

are you ragebaiting

[dense violet]

so either you care about gas which is a huge problem making rocket fuel

or you dont care about gas.
Choose.

You can do a 600gw nuclear set up with zero gas if you so choose

But even if you choose to process a 600gw nuclear set up, using 3000 gas, that leaves you more than 9000 gas for the most truly horrific rocket fuel set up you'd care to imagine

[sterile blade]

Apparently, the 250%-Max-sink-points production plan can go up to ~1.3 TW...
But yeah, no "sane" production plan can go over 1TW of power needed or even close to that xD

[dense violet]

Like a lunatic rockfuel set up that not even the weirdest person on this server has advertised

and people have done wild rf set ups here

[stiff ibex]

my goal is to hit the max possible

[past hedge]

introducing literally like 12 250% power shard machines i forgot the name of cause its 4am

[dense violet]

well according to SFtools you can produce 22.5k rocket fuel even with a max recycled uranium rod facility

[past hedge]

they use like 85,000MW each

[stiff ibex]

btw refining all the uranium waste on the map is around 8k nitrogen

actually i think its over that

[past hedge]

i dont even want to know how much it becomes when slooped

[boreal musk]

even if you do both, you wont be out of nitrogen unless youre making ton shit of fmf and cooling system 🙃

[dense violet]

you are bad at SF tools https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=nw9lmPbY7hEIJzVPZSKx

[stiff ibex]

send a screenshot of your calculation then i have no idea how youre getting the 3000 number

[dense violet]

I just linked it to you. And if you're using dupe mechanics I don't care about it.

[stiff ibex]

thats only 630 uranium waste/min

[sterile blade]

Well... The theoretical maximum is using machines at 1% clock-speed to save on power to make more coupons...
I strongly doubt anyone is gonna build even just the Iron Wire Constructors needed for that plan 😅 😆 (~half a million)

[pearl summit]

Hey everyone! I previously mentioned this before, but I´d like to ask again. Found a bug where I have steel beams in my personal uploader, even though I have never placed it there, and it is the only resource that ever appears there. I found a pattern where it only happens every time I log in and not during gameplay, is anyone familiar with it? 😊

[stiff ibex]

nah i dont mean maximum possible coupons, just power

[dense violet]

2520

[sterile blade]

Totally not worth the few coupons more that gives compared to the 250% route xD

[stiff ibex]

oh yes thats corrext

[full perch]

Is 8 to 3 coal setup enuf power to finish T4? Or u just build for to accommodate

[dense violet]

which offhand memory that's what waste you get from 50.4 rods

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

@pearl summit You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @sterile blade

[pearl summit]

Thanks!

[dense violet]

I'd probably aim to just slap 32 together. It's not uncommon to make 64 before doing a big fuel set up, depending on the person

[sterile blade]

You could finish the game with that much power... if you're patient enough 😉

[boreal musk]

1 uranium rod is 50/min waste
630/min is only 12.6 rods

[dense violet]

and this is a wild amount of RF you can make from the left over https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=yuDRogxkWzQ0xm81I6Cl

You'd have to use SAM ore to get this much as you'd need to make other things around it I think. But probably not much

I don't know if the 'too many pipes/pump' bug still exists but if it does it'd murder your save

[vale fox]

What is a good automation mobile game

[marble torrent]

Why in the hell would it tell me station unreachable when I manually drove the train twice for testing????

[dense violet]

manually driving only tests connections, not signals

[marble torrent]

What do you mean?

[dense violet]

when you manually drive a train it completely ignores signals

[ripe basin]

Do you have railroad signals on your track?

[dense violet]

it'll only tell you if there's an improper rail connection

usually a bugged bit

[ripe basin]

Maybe something's wrong with them

[marble torrent]

Its a back and forth connection. No going anywhere besides two places

[boreal musk]

unreachable means either incomplete track or station backwards

[ripe basin]

Maybe you placed the station backwards?

[marble torrent]

Let me check on that

[ripe basin]

Go check both stations

[radiant swallow]

is it worth it to use the alt-recipe to turn normal uranium and uranium waste into plutonium?

[stiff ibex]

no

i think the default recipes are the best for plutonium production

[pearl summit]

Silly question, how do I make an account at the official website?

I cant seem to find an option to create one

[radiant swallow]

are the alt-recipes for uranium fuel rods the best too?

[dense violet]

if you want more power? yeah.

if you want more p rods? you want the p rod alts

depends on your ultimate goal

[radiant swallow]

i want as much power as possible

i have to rip apart my fuel power generator.... lol

[dense violet]

I think it's alt uranium rods, base p rods then

[stiff ibex]

yes

[dense violet]

although you'll never use all that power

[radiant swallow]

i plan on doing so

[stiff ibex]

never say never

[radiant swallow]

i just spent like.... 8h to set up my super computers.

i powersharded all buildings

[dense violet]

it'd be more than 1,000,000 gw.

that's nothing compared to that power

[radiant swallow]

i really hope i wont make 1mil GW lol

gonna harvest the entire sun

[dense violet]

sorry 1,000gw

you get 600gw just from the U rods. Pre slooping in 1.0 you'd never use it. Maybe if you crammed sloops everywhere now in a giant system it might?

[radiant swallow]

where am i even gonna get that much caterium lol

[dense violet]

just slooped a whole field of PAs?

[dense violet]

it's actually not that much

[radiant swallow]

i plan on doing that to at least 3

[finite mirage]

does the power grid only supply as much power as required?

my production and consumption lines are parallel

[stiff ibex]

if youre using biomass yes anything else no

[finite mirage]

oh ok thankss

[radiant swallow]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=765Vjzqm1sGqSEpFmpqA

then you should probably fix my production chain

[stiff ibex]

your biomass generators only turn on and consume power when it needs power

[dense violet]

what the hell is this

[radiant swallow]

i don't know, i don't know what is best lol

[dense violet]

try going from this https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=jOlPMOTrnRrSOvuljDab

you can do your aluminium rotors if you want 😛

it was easier to just make a whole fresh plan xD

oh I misread your original plan. 3000 caterium ore isn't that much

[radiant swallow]

how am i gonna move in all those resources? lol

[dense violet]

pick a spot where most of it is already using SCIM
then drone it in?

[pearl summit]

Hey guys, I am not able to report a bug as you need to create an account to do so. Anyone can help me out on how to create an account please?

[stiff ibex]

why temp caterium instead of pure?

[pearl summit]

I have an account on EPIC, but it doesnt recognize that.

[dense violet]

I fucking hate refineries.
and you generally use oil in systems using that much QW anyway, using a drop more for coke isn't a big ask

[stiff ibex]

might aswell use the oil for more power or plastic or something

water is basically free

[dense violet]

its very little oil. And to save on that many refineries it's a great trade

I'd do it every day

[stiff ibex]

whats your aversion to refineries

pipe shenanigans?

[dense violet]

nah, you jsut need so many of them , huge and ugly

[dense violet]

fuck. refineries. in the ear hole https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1357870180679815258/big_r_2.png?ex=6886c027&is=68856ea7&hm=6243a4d6328408ca57a4216e8cbf5186a8b1281da16ea90ef4cd97c0066d493b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[marble torrent]

I crashed so it took a while. I checked both stations made sure the arrows are like this ▶️ ◀️ ... if thats the correct order

[stiff ibex]

true if you care about looks

[dense violet]

looks and I don't want to play refinery simulator 2025

[lost wagon]

the range of the bomb is really big when it comes trees, or the trees are really weak, shit isn't even close and the tree just explodes

[stiff ibex]

they are cumbersome true true

[sterile blade]

I wish we had a "pure recipes machine" or something.
It's just a bit boring having 1/3 of the machines be just one kind of machine (and also one of the biggest ones) every time you try to be a little ore-efficient

[dense violet]

and I don't mind pipes. But I would like set ups that didn't have pipes everywhere

[ripe basin]

The arrow should be pointing in direction that your train is COMING, not COMING FROM

[stiff ibex]

i think pipe organization is the most fun part

reminds me of building a computer and organizing the wires

[radiant swallow]

what do you mean, 95 refineries for the iron is nothing kek

[dense violet]

I like pipe problem solving. ... jsut ... so many refineries https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1387931002663342111/1387938474853797938/image.png?ex=6886b6ef&is=6885656f&hm=b5a3aa6919e2b154da34940065f3d9691ec40a369fe986bd2103ba24f06e6aff&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[sterile blade]

Belts are better because you can sushi them
||Totally objective fact, don't even think for a moment this is just an opinion||

[stiff ibex]

truth nuke

you can sushi a pipe too if you clip it

[lost wagon]

put the half circle of the station opposite of eachother

[pearl summit]

@sterile blade The option to create an account does not appear on my pc, but it does on my phone, dont know why, but thanks!

[sterile blade]

I was on phone too...
Might be yet another bug to report 😆

[radiant swallow]

steamed copper sheets is something i will use anyway though

[chrome gull]

i killed a lizard doggo

[stiff ibex]

based

[dense violet]

yeah they make me cry 😦

the only time I'd be vaguely tempted to use sloops.
constructors making copper sheets so I don't have to use refineries

[daring stag]

1.2M sink points per minute, 571 tickets; I think I need at least thrice that to reach 1k

[radiant swallow]

using steamed copper sheets reduced copper usage by 1000 lol

that is a bit too good to say no to

i just need 1600 caterium

[dense violet]

yeah it's halves the copper cost. That's why slooping the constructors just turn them into refineries xD

[daring stag]

pure ingots with refineries is dope too

[radiant swallow]

yeah but i don't have that many sloops to just use them for copper sheets lmao

[dense violet]

yeahhhh... that's what this is, the back refineries feeding ingots to two in front https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1387931002663342111/1387938474853797938/image.png?ex=6886b6ef&is=6885656f&hm=b5a3aa6919e2b154da34940065f3d9691ec40a369fe986bd2103ba24f06e6aff&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[daring stag]

imo don't use sloops for that

[dense violet]

I hate refineries xD

[daring stag]

I use them on end of the line machines, like supercomputers, turbo motors or quest items, also alien dna, and power shards constructor

[stiff ibex]

use sloops only on wire constructors

[daring stag]

sloops on biocoal is op

[stiff ibex]

truth

[reef basin]

Not sure if those were just for test phase or were full games given. But fair point.

[daring stag]

only 4 achievements left. finish phase 5, finish the MAM, get golden statue, finish all milestones (one left)

the golden statue achievement is 1.6% of players

somehow that's more than I thought it would be

[sterile blade]

They were just Simon's leftovers...

[stiff ibex]

i really wish there were some rarer achievements

[daring stag]

yeah like collect every single single, drive, sphere, sloop (tbh people would cheat and just look at scim map)

[stiff ibex]

like one for a terawatt of power or producing a certain amount of warp drives/mion

is that really cheating though

[daring stag]

yeah it is

[marble torrent]

Figured out 👍

[daring stag]

I got all my drives/sloops/spheres/slugs by using ingame tools (radar towers, scanner)

[stiff ibex]

thats miserable

[daring stag]

no, I like exploration

[stiff ibex]

i guess but at a point its all the same

[daring stag]

half of the game appeal for me is exploration, like in subnautica. if it was 100% factory, not sure I would be as much hooked

[stiff ibex]

you got all the hard drives and spheres?

[daring stag]

I got the achievements for both, but not all, just enough for achievements and all alt recipes

[stiff ibex]

oh youre pretty close then if you dont have them all

[daring stag]

and spheres are basically useless for me now I have more than enough depot and spheres in reserve

[stiff ibex]

i think theres like 5 drives left over after all alt recipes

[daring stag]

yeah I reckon I miss like less than 10 drives, 2 are in the swamp, one locked with high end item (particle crap)

[abstract hollow]

why will there be no crossplay between pc and ps5?

[stiff ibex]

yea theres a superposition oscillator drive in the swamp

[sterile blade]

I built a skybase before conveyor lifts were introduced 🙃

[daring stag]

the hunt for drives was the hardest one for sure. put radar tower in a region, then circle the whole region with the scanner

[stiff ibex]

i dont think its really cheating to use SCIM though

[daring stag]

it's cheating to me since you have ingame tools that became irrelevant if you look at the map on the web

[stiff ibex]

most people at a certain point use the tool because doing math for super late game bases just isnt reasonable manually

[daring stag]

I mean yeah if I do another playthrough I would then look at the map directly

[stiff ibex]

and searching the whole map placing radars just to find the last one or two drives is lame imo

[daring stag]

but it's my first one

[stiff ibex]

dude

yikes

[sterile blade]

I find this very debatable.
Ofc what is "reasonable" depends on how much one enjoys doing math in a game, but I don't think any production chain ending in just a few machines (<3?) is out of reach for the average factory-game enjoyer

[daring stag]

oh yeah I do use the satisfactory tools to help me with all the alt recipes

I don't consider that "cheating". the only cheat for me is to look where are drives on the map instead of scanning ingame

[sterile blade]

By "production chain ending in few machines" I mean something like a production chains that ends in 3 machines making the same high-tier part

[abstract hollow]

can someone answer this please

[stiff ibex]

any large scale production of power matrixes or late game elevator items is just tedious to do manually. like its possible sure, but theres almost certainly going to be errors in your math somewhere

[sterile blade]

#1038092680493801533

[stiff ibex]

and doing that over and over again too

[light ginkgo]

why is there so many problems with blueprints designers rn T_T

It won't register my hypertubes entrances

[sterile blade]

Meh. I don't really find that to be a big challenge. While I agree that it can be tedious to repeat the same steps over and over, one doesn't really have to if they're not building something massive or just break the production down in repeatable steps (blueprint helps with this) so that they don't have to repeat known calculations of something they've already built once

[stiff ibex]

No i didnt mean you have to, but at a point almost everyone is using the website or tool, just crunching numbers for hours instead of playing the game isnt fun

especially with overclocking amounts for perfect production, the website makes it sooooo much quicker

[sterile blade]

I prefer not to use any tools outside of the game during my first playthrough... So I cursed a lot in *actorio where there's no in-game calculator

[green fiber]

not even pen and paper? smh

[daring stag]

yeah not using any calculator is possible but in endgame it's overwhelming. still possible ofc but for me it's ok

the issue is with the hundred alt recipes etc, too hard to optimize by brain

[sterile blade]

Crunching the numbers (when in manageable amounts) is part of the fun to me 😆

[sterile blade]

I did that once, before trying out SFTools. It was my first massive project (maximized turbo-motors)

[stiff ibex]

fair enough, but i still wouldnt call doing it the other way cheating

[daring stag]

me neither

I was only talking about spheres/sloops/slugs/drives

[ashen spruce]

Hello

[daring stag]

for me I must find them with radar towers and shit

[ashen spruce]

Next person to write anything in chat gets a lizzard doggo

[light ginkgo]

me

[ashen spruce]

Wrong

[sterile blade]

Depends on the context, imo

[light ginkgo]

anything in chat

[ashen spruce]

also wrong

[light ginkgo]

anything

[ashen spruce]

[light ginkgo]

[stiff ibex]

at the end of the day its a sandbox 🤷

[daring stag]

if I want to fill a water reservoir from a lake that is below it, it can't work without a pump right?

[ashen spruce]

My name just speaks facts now.

[sterile blade]

Not if there's more than 10m between the the Extractors's outputs and the top of the water reservoir

[lost wagon]

but you find team with the dragon ball radar thingy

[daring stag]

not sure about the numbers but reservoir stays at 0 with full overclocked water extractor

should I put the pump at the bottom of the rising tube?

[sterile blade]

You can use walls (4m) to judge the height of things. Machines usually output 1m above the foundation they're on IIRC

[daring stag]

I put it at random it seems to work it fills at 600m^3 now

[kind rose]

I did project assembly no calculator or tool

[sterile blade]

At the bottom, or anywhere before the pipes reach 10m above the Extractors

[kind rose]

I’m crazy

And my open air factory needed to half break to work

[daring stag]

it's written head lift fluctuating between 5 and 9meters on the pump

[kind rose]

Like orc tech

With item buffers

[daring stag]

anyway I don't understand shit but I understand the reservoir is filling so I think it's ok lol

maybe adding a second pump so it fills at 600m3

[sterile blade]

That's good. If it ever exceeds the maximum aviable, the pump's light will turn yellow. It's recommended to avoid using them at max headlift and leave some leeway (eg: 19m out of 20m)

[sterile blade]

Adding more just adds clutter 😅
They just affect headlift, if flow isn't enough there must be other issues at play

[daring stag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1398939889512484965/1398939938908803163/Screenshot_20250727-100612.png?ex=68872fd8&is=6885de58&hm=c30ade873f41f3891e9d1a6b6d5e04db5fde69a05c6a354a03c70ac957764d8b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1596&height=898

reservoir fills at between 300 and 500 so I guess it's not fully opti

but I think it's ok

[sterile blade]

One Extractor can produce up to 300/min ^^ (fully overclocked)

[daring stag]

oh you're right lol

building a second one

[clear cave]

Is there any giveaways to get a copy of the game? I wanna play but it’s too much.

[daring stag]

I'm close to busting my 40GW grid with all the tier9 buildings

time to make a mk3 blueprint of rocket fuel gens

[sterile blade]

Iirc, the only ones ever done were during game-testing

[daring stag]

thanks boss https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1398939889512484965/1398940639558893609/2B87C50E-B70F-4E30-BE3A-7509E2590022.png?ex=6887307f&is=6885deff&hm=1614a9be5a34b471b900816be7ce18140a84b0676dd6a69df42fa5c17a9f802b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless 🫡

[clear cave]

Ok

😔

Does it ever go on sale?

[sterile blade]

Sometimes

[daring stag]

it was recently on sale when I bought it 2 weeks ago

steam summer sale

[clear cave]

Aww

How much was it?

[daring stag]

don't remember exactly, 30€ smth lt

[clear cave]

😭

[daring stag]

steam offer refunds before 2 hours

although I would say I wasn't hooked in during the 2 initial hours, but later

[clear cave]

Well I wanna play it more than 2 hours

[daring stag]

then buy it, it's worth its price

[clear cave]

😐 Maybe

If it went on sale I will do it

And it has multiplayer right?

[daring stag]

yeah coop, though you need very involved friends because it's very long to finish

[clear cave]

Don’t worry about that… 😀

Hmm, I might

[finite mirage]

can u rotate a storage without breaking it

[stiff ibex]

if you dismantle a storage itll just go into your inventory

if your inv is full itll go into a small box on the ground

[boreal musk]

you cannot rotate already placed buildings

[half scaffold]

Why is it so hard to get frame walls to line up?!

[ashen spruce]

What do you mean by that?

[half scaffold]

I'm trying to do a line of frame walls down the side of a cliff. I zooped a bunch, but I needed 3 more. It wont let me attach them to bottom of the others, it wants to offset them.

I tried to nudge, but its just a LITTLE off

[ashen spruce]

huh

That's weird.

[half scaffold]

Vertical

[ashen spruce]

Are you using the Vertical Mode?

Have you tried using the Default Mode?

[half scaffold]

I'll go back and try the diff modes, I'm running my lines to it now, so I'll play with it a bit before I run the wires down

[prime jasper]

How to get concrete foundation? I see them in many videos but they are nowhere in the awesome shop

[true mulch]

customizer category

"concrete foundation material"

[prime jasper]

Oh my bad i was expecting them in the foundation section

thanks

[dense violet]

also if you hold E while holding a foundation it'll bring up a radial menu of items - right click the mouse and it'll swap skins

[radiant swallow]

@dense violet can i somehow tell the factory planner to use x amount of oil for my plastic and rubber factory?

[dense violet]

go to inputs, select how much oil, maximise

[radiant swallow]

thanks

[dense violet]

if you're doing the recycle loop, afterwards, I'd make seperate plans for both plastic and rubber. Much easier planning hte layout splitting up the production lines

[radiant swallow]

alright

[dense violet]

it just makes your life much simpler 🙂

[finite mirage]

there's this girrafe looking thing here, does he bite?

[true mulch]

no, he does bounce

[real canyon]

is there a good mod in which i can create large blueprints? i need like 20x20x10 foundations

[subtle swan]

is there a way to destroy gas pillars?

[boreal musk]

nobelisk

[boreal musk]

better ask in their modding server

[prime jasper]

I am cooking some prime spaguetti for my plastic/rubbber/smokelesspowder/fuel factory. Can't wait to share it once it will be over.

I just need to set up a bit more pasta for the fuel and plug it all to some truck stations.

[radiant swallow]

can i use a valve to prevent fluids from flowing into a pipe from the opposite direction it's pointing at?

[leaden turret]

you can, but I'm told valves can cause "issues" (don't know if that still applies to 1.0/1.1 tho)

[radiant swallow]

hm

like everything else in this game with fluids lol

also why is the factorio factory planner not working for plutonium fuel rods?

i have all recipes checked

[spice patio]

Need to input Uranium Waste as input manually.

As there is no "recipe" for Uranium Fuel Rods getting used.

[real canyon]

i really like building with fluids way more than conveyer belt because you can give pipes the matching colours to the fluid or gas

[humble osprey]

can i stack drone ports on top of each other

will that lead to issues

[radiant swallow]

yeah, that did it

[finite mirage]

can u not take back stuff from the upgrade machine once u put it in?

[humble osprey]

idc about clippy

[fallow flame]

Hello un petit 🇫🇷 perdu.. Je vais reprendre ce jeu.. (ou j'ai du recommencer 40 fois sans aller jusqu'au bout car mes chaîne de prod etc était tjr trop chaotique..) 😂

Jvais recommencer à zéro et bien prendre mon temps.. Ce serai sympa d'avoir des collègue francophone pour épaule et conseiller 😁🍻👍

I would like to speak well and know how to write English correctly 🤣😂

T'y translate 😅

[worthy junco]

Nah its a confusing language.

Great cuisine painfull language

Which is a shame cause france is nice to visit xD

yep

Crepe's are great

Still remember the time i got one with french cheese egg and ham, that was so good

Go eat so the factory can grow

The Void

[oblique wedge]

hey, I've seen build online with round corner and I was wondering how to do it since i can only rotate foundation 45°

[worthy junco]

Check awesome shop?

[oblique wedge]

there is only the little corner that don't let u place wall corectly on it

[worthy junco]

Yeah then check youtube for tutorials

You know what sucks, that you cant block container slots like factorio xD

[oblique wedge]

but in tutorial they are able to rotate fondation by only a few ° while it rotate at least 45° when i do it

[smoky forge]

i just found out that there is a mod for a conveyor teleporter

:O

[dense turtle]

holy i set up and forgot the sink and now i got 16 coupons hell yeah coupons coupons coupons

[finite mirage]

does it matter where a water extractor is placed? will it produce less or more water?

[worthy junco]

Dont think it matters aslong as it is in water

[finite mirage]

can one not provide enough for 3 coal plants?

[cedar portal]

Have you unlocked overclocking?

[finite mirage]

im on phase 1

stage 3

[tawdry scaffold]

yo can some body totur me i started playing this game and watched a ton of youtube vids but math isnt mathing

[cedar portal]

Water Extractors produce 120/min and each coal plant neeeds 45/min, so one extractor can't provide enough for 3 coal

[finite mirage]

ah yeah makes sense

r/cats

[clear aspen]

Good morning chat

[tawdry scaffold]

Preety please?

[finite mirage]

what do u wanna know dude?

[willow dawn]

I asume you mean tutor 😛

[tawdry scaffold]

yes erm for exemple why is 90/6 isnt 15 in a manifold and what does efficaincy precentage actually means

[cedar portal]

90/6 will be 15 to each machine in a manifold once the buffers all fill up

[tawdry scaffold]

well yeah everything is filled to the last one

one sec letme send you a picture

[chrome gull]

how to use blueprints? i just unlocked them

[cedar portal]

If all the machines are filled then they should bee all producing at 100% efficiency. The efficency rating is very slow to update, watch it for a minute to see if it's going up. If it's staying under 100% that means it's either not gettign enough, or can't output enough. Are the output belts empty or backed up?

[steel delta]

stupid question and the answer is likely a big no, but is there any way of getting satisfactory on steam without paying if I have it on epic games? I bought it during early access right after it came out, so it wasn't available on steam back then

[cedar portal]

Not that I know of. I also got it on Epic when that wss the only option and then bought a copy on Steam when it was available.

[tawdry scaffold]

it's getting a lot i dont get it

sent u a pic

[finite mirage]

i want to transport coal from a far away place, best early game solution?

[cedar portal]

If you look, all the belts coming out of the machines have rods. This means the machines can't produce more because theree is nowhere for the output to go. Thats why your efficency is low, the machines are idle because they can't output anything.

[tawdry scaffold]

my efiicancy is 100%

but the last is still getting more iron then it needs

[willow dawn]

Depends how early game

[tawdry scaffold]

i have place for output

[tawdry scaffold]

i cleard it for the pic

[cedar portal]

I'm going to guess you are producing more iron rods than your belt can handle then

[finite mirage]

i have tractors, but tractors aren't suitable for the terrain

[tawdry scaffold]

weird im using mark 2

and its 90 per min

[cedar portal]

How many iron rods does each machine produce a minute?

[dense turtle]

15

[tawdry scaffold]

30 for each bruner

[dense turtle]

huh

[tawdry scaffold]

so 90

90/15 = 6

[willow dawn]

Your best bet might be to build a factory near where the coal is instead of bringing long distances if you don't have trains yet

[tawdry scaffold]

wait im dumb

[finite mirage]

how far away is trains?

[cedar portal]

30x6=180 rods/min which is more than your belt can handle

[willow dawn]

You can belt it of course but if it's really far I wouldn't. But thats just me 🙂

[tawdry scaffold]

i think my output is mark 1

[tawdry scaffold]

u got cunfused

[willow dawn]

I don't understand the question 🙂

[tawdry scaffold]

i have only 3 burners for the rods

[finite mirage]

when do i unlock trains

[willow dawn]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/milestones

[dense turtle]

then it should be 6 contstructors

[willow dawn]

I don't know how far you are but you can see in that website when everything unlocks

[tawdry scaffold]

btw why is suddenly my belt i gon from the number 3 slot

[cedar portal]

6 constructors at 15 rods/min is 90 rods/min, which is less than 120/min for a mk2 belt. Check to make sure you don't have a mk1 belt in there?

[finite mirage]

which stage

[dense turtle]

after finishing phase 2

[tawdry scaffold]

.

[tawdry scaffold]

help

[finite mirage]

oh yeah, i see it, tier 6

[tawdry scaffold]

what did i dooo

[elfin trellis]

it is..i still remember and miss my orange cat

[willow dawn]

You pressed a button you can easily get it back by just going to the contruction menu and pressing 3 when your mouse is over the belts

[tawdry scaffold]

TYSM<3

BTW is a manifold for the output slowing it down since i see the belts are taking a longer time , are mergers making stuff slower?

[dense turtle]

nah i think this is the greatest place on the map

4 irons 4 coals near WATER 2 coppers 1 limestone

[tawdry scaffold]

never mind math still ain't mathing

[finite mirage]

how to tame lizard dog

[tawdry scaffold]

waittt

[willow dawn]

As long as the belts can handle the load on both ends, no it will not slow down

[tawdry scaffold]

weirdd

[dense turtle]

it doesnt slow down u prob making more than mk2 can handle

just get mk3 already makes life so much easier

[tawdry scaffold]

ahh yeah that's gonna take some time but thx i guess its just a skill issue

[dense turtle]

if ur making 90 rods per minute and thats all that is on this manifold then maybe u still have mk1 somewhere

[rugged shard]

ive made a dedi server, how does my friend connect to it

no but like actually lol

theres no instructions online i can find

tons of stuff to MAKE a server but nothing on how my friends can connect

[ripe basin]

Bruh

Its the third time im trying to buy satis for friend

And its the third time im getting scammed

Fucking sanctions

[ripe basin]

Hate them

[rugged shard]

is maxeek like high rn

[ripe basin]

Yes he is

[rugged shard]

jesus

[rugged shard]

do you know how to let someone join my dedi server?

[ripe basin]

No

#dedicated-servers

[rugged shard]

yeah sent a msg already. no ones replying

[ripe basin]

You need to give them ip and port

[rugged shard]

and where do they put it

and where do i find the ip

[ripe basin]

Idk

I only know that you need the ip and port

I have a cat

[mild quarry]

How do I get rid of 400 nuclear waste per minute

reasonable

[willow dawn]

Some of us still are 😛

Didn't say it was me

But young is a subjective statement anyways 😉

?

[spark sky]

If a water extractor pauses and starts up again, does that mean it's providing more than enough water?

[willow dawn]

It should indeed mean that the pipes are full

[green fiber]

depends. are the machines that need the water all working?

[bright helm]

Why is elevator limited to 200m?

Its too short for me

[green fiber]

then make another

[ashen spruce]

#screenshots It's my first time setting up trains myself, so this might be a stupid question.

[spark sky]

Right now I'm just feeding two coal power plants from one water extractor, with a third that can be turned on (but right now I don't need that much power).

[green fiber]

did you check how much water 2 coal gens need

[spark sky]

Not sure how I do that, power requirements are easier to check, just look at the graph on a power pole.

[green fiber]

open up the generator, look on the bottom left

[spark sky]

Okay, I guess it says 45/min, with 50 in the building.

[green fiber]

now you know

[willow dawn]

And you know how much a water extractor gets 🙂

[spark sky]

So, 90/min for 2. But how do I know how much the extractor can supply or that the pumps are pumping?

[green fiber]

the water extractor menu ALSO tells you how much it makes

[ashen spruce]

New Math-Subskill acquired
The Coal and the Water - Ability to calculate how much water is needed for Coal Power

[spark sky]

Max flow rate? That's a lot (600/min). I have 2 pumps to lift the water to the upper generator.

[green fiber]

not max

over on the left theres an orange number

inside the extractor menu

[ashen spruce]

Can someone help me rq please.

[green fiber]

that orange number is how much it makes right now

[green fiber]

trains set those switches however they need them

[spark sky]

Oh, the production rate? That says 120, but I wanted to know how much it can make.

[green fiber]

the max?
did you unlock overclocking yet

[spark sky]

Yes, but it's not overclocked, yet.

[ashen spruce]

Alright, thanks.

[willow dawn]

Yes it will go right it if needs to

[green fiber]

the max it could do if overclocked is just 2.5 x the current production rate (at 100%)

aka 2.5 x 120

[spark sky]

So, 300. The max flow rate just says that it can suck that 300 out twice as fast as it can produce it?

[green fiber]

the max flow is just how fast it could empty out, depending the current connected pipe mk

with a mk 1 it can empty out at 300/min
with a mk 2 thats 600/min

[spark sky]

I didn't think I was using Mk 2 pipes.

[green fiber]

probably my mistake then.
extractor could empty out at 600/min if you had mk 2 pipes is what it means

if you cant meet that then the max rate it actually can empty out at is the max flow rate of the connected pipe

[spark sky]

Now, does the water consumption for a coal generator go up if the power use goes up?

[willow dawn]

What do you mean with if the power goes up?

It will produce a set amount of power as long as it has the resources

[green fiber]

no - its static. It only goes up or down if you change clock rate
It will also stop consuming water if theres not enough coal and vice versa

[spark sky]

Right now, I'm not using a lot of power. If the coal generators work like the biofuel generators, then the more power used, the more fuel used. That's why I wondered about the water useage, if that increased as well.

[green fiber]

They dont work like biofuel gens is the point

they make a set amount of power - independant of how much you consume

[dense violet]

why woudl yo uwant to go back to the bad ol days?

[spark sky]

Ah, so, I'm wasting fuel running 2 of them when no machines are running.

(But, with unlimited coal, it's not a big concern.)

[atomic notch]

Uhh

[dense violet]

it isn't. Just dedicate X amount of fuel for the power you want and upgrade as needed. and building the coal far away is useful, leaves closer coal for steel

[dim sundial]

anybody know of someone whos done a lot of benchmarking for this game specifically?

[spark sky]

Well, for now I'm using the far south pure coal node, and so far I don't have a lot of production set up. I'm moving stuff around to start automating stuff I was producing by hand.

I just completed Phase 2, having sent the first batch of stuff up the space elevator.

I have not built the Awesome Sink yet, so in moving stuff around, I'm making room for that.

[spark sky]

What do you mean by "benchmarking"? There are a lot of videos out there where people calculated how to optimize their production lines (where logistics and production are as close to optimal for moving stuff around as possible). If what you're asking about is more along the lines of which computer processors and graphics cards perform best with the game, I don't know of anyone who has posted a video on that.

[dim sundial]

which cpus run the game better. seems like this cpu bottlneck has gotten worse since restarting

[spark sky]

Yeah, as I said, I haven't seen anyone address that in a video.

[vagrant oar]

you're actually wasting fuel by only running 2 off a single node

[willow dawn]

I wouldn't say wasting as much as not fully utilizing the potential. Wasting implies something is lost forever and it's infinite so it's not

[vagrant oar]

wasting the potential

[willow dawn]

People like to build at their own speed 🙂

[spark sky]

Okay, that's going to need some explanation, if all that's actually using power right now is literally the mine.

[vagrant oar]

mostly a joke when it comes to "waste", it's just that the vein can support more than 2 gens easily*

*provided nothing else bottlenecks and your belts aren't limiting the throughput

[willow dawn]

They are just saying you could get more power out of that one node if you wanted to

[spare mantle]

chat, is it worth building the bulk of refinery's just for extra ingots

i get its like 2x the output but like

[vagrant oar]

refineries are pretty

[spare mantle]

man are refineries BULKY

[vagrant oar]

what's a hekicarier?

[spare mantle]

i just learned how to stack constructors, i can feel my brain stretching

vertically...

[vagrant oar]

oh, I don't know avengers actually

is it that bad

[spark sky]

Well, get that I'm not using all the coal, shoot, I only have a standard Mk 2 mine on it, so I'm sure it could do a lot of steel production along with the power plants, given the best miner, oveclocked to the max.

Um, The Avengers aren't real.

Neither is Thanos.

Fine, but what does all that have to do with Satisfactory?

[vagrant oar]

imo using a single node for 2 separate things is very, controversial

[green fiber]

not really tbh.
resource is resource

[vagrant oar]

but it adds unnecessary convolution to the system, no?

we're talking belt splitting into another factory not train going into a hub and then splitting that there

[spark sky]

Well, that's like saying I should use an iron node to make only screws, nothing else.

[vagrant oar]

not the point but touche