satisfactory

[fiery pewter]

That type of generators

[dreamy bane]

batteries

[daring stag]

but I can craft synthetic power shards now

[fiery pewter]

2 types of batteries

Battery storage and batteries as an item

[hard ivy]

It's called power storage and it's not a battery. Please stop confusing people with wrong names

[radiant swallow]

power storages. it's basically a battery

so what you wanna do is: use biofuel generators to charge up a few power storages, connect your fuel refinery to the power storages so they can work and produce fuel and then hope for the best

[fiery pewter]

I will stop confusing people if I can remember the name of the building, which I didn't

[radiant swallow]

it's always good to have a bit of power storage ready

[daring stag]

power storage is good for early gamy I'd say

with biofuel crap

[hard ivy]

Biomass burners don't charge power storage

[dreamy bane]

alr thanks hopefully the satisfactory gods are on my side

[radiant swallow]

oh no

[daring stag]

bummer, coal then? I remember my first coal plants being unreliable

[dreamy bane]

😭

[radiant swallow]

so you gotta use biomass burners to make coal generators run and charge power storages lol

[daring stag]

when you reach fuel you basically will never have grid shutdown unless you really try for it

[radiant swallow]

and once everything is done, make so much power you don't have to worry about it anymore

[hard ivy]

I don't use power storage at all. Except that one time I needed a single one to fix a bug

[fiery pewter]

You need a Generator that generates power even if there are no machines using that power

[radiant swallow]

or you under-plan power production

[dreamy bane]

😭 idk why it happened its driving me crazyy

[daring stag]

14 rocket fuel generators for each blender

just build some when the blue line reaches the grey* line

[radiant swallow]

or build so much every now and then that you don't need to look at the graphs anymore

like i do

[dreamy bane]

yeah im thinking of switching to turbo fuel from regular fuel

[daring stag]

the phase 5 buildings eat 10GW by themselves lol

[fiery pewter]

Why are so many people talking like you unlock rocket fuel and ionized fuel as soon as you unlock fuel generators. Talk about confusing people

[daring stag]

good thing I had those rocket fuel set up

[radiant swallow]

you should. and use the recipe turn heavy oil into fuel with packaged water

it's an alt-recipe

[hard ivy]

It's usually easier to just build more fuel

[tall plover]

Is there any way i can turn off the day/night cycle? i really hate it being so dark

[hard ivy]

SkyUI mod can do that

Someone once said that there was a console command too but didn't provide it so idk

[dense violet]

mods. But night only lasts a few minutes

[fiery pewter]

10 minutes standard

[daring stag]

some areas are pitch black during the night

[hard ivy]

Innit like 5-10 min/h?

[daring stag]

just stay in your base if you don't want to get eaten

[radiant swallow]

in factorio you get NV device at least lol

[tall plover]

building in complete darkness sucks

[hard ivy]

But I just installed SkyUI, set it perma midday and it's cool

[radiant swallow]

B for flashlight, helps a tiny bit

[daring stag]

buy flood lights

[hard ivy]

Turn off lumen

[daring stag]

yea flashlight for sure lol

[tall plover]

im building on a flat big surface

[daring stag]

bro I unlocked so many things I don't know where to begin (phase 5)

[fiery pewter]

More floodlights

[hard ivy]

Materials for mk6 belts

[daring stag]

yea I'm on it for sure

just the orange triangle stuff idk yet

[tall plover]

ok now how do i do that

[dreamy bane]

same. phase 4 felt really tedious out of all ngl

[fiery pewter]

Instal Satisfactory mod manager

[tall plover]

already done

[daring stag]

I did phase 4 objectives in like 1 day. but more than a week for the milestones

[hard ivy]

Ficsit.app, install SMM

[tall plover]

already done

[fiery pewter]

Then search for SkyUI, install and start game

[tall plover]

im ingame with the mod enabled

[fiery pewter]

Ctrl+L

[hard ivy]

I wanted to say ctrl+k but it might be l

[fiery pewter]

Then choose a time, and hit that big pause button, and you're set

[hard ivy]

The keybind is in the mod description anyway

[fiery pewter]

You do have to enable it each time you load the game

[tall plover]

great

thanks guys

[hard ivy]

Do you? I think mine just works

[fiery pewter]

As in, you need to set the pause time every time you load

[fiery pewter]

Mine didn't

[hard ivy]

You on linux?

[fiery pewter]

I mostly used skyUI to disable mob spawning, I didn't mind the darkness

[fiery pewter]

No just steam/windows

[hard ivy]

Then idk. I'm running the same

[fiery pewter]

I had to turn it on everytime I loaded the save

It was a multiplayer though

So that could be a reason

[hard ivy]

That might be it

[fiery pewter]

Yea

Me and buddy now doing a playthrough without mods

[daring stag]

as you should, doing the same thing

[fiery pewter]

This game lacks inventory slots early game

[daring stag]

yeah and inventory becomes more or less useless once you have alien depots

[hard ivy]

It's needed when you dismantle a lot of BPs lol

[fiery pewter]

Yeah, but you do need the upgrades for the depot if you want it to be truly useful

Imo, not worth it for 1 stack of Reinforced Iron Plates with a loading time of 15/min

And you can't automate all of the needed parts before you have manufacturers

So a lot of handcrafting

-# silence

[daring stag]

yeah true I forgot it's pretty slow/limited at first

personally I farmed as much spheres as possible to unlock all the tree

game totally changed after that

[crude canyon]

Man you need so much steel for phase 2 and 3
I didn't even realise it

[daring stag]

you get better recipes for it

[ashen spruce]

Please?

[daring stag]

coke steel ingot 100 per minute

also you can craft steel beams/pipe with iron etc

[hasty trench]

Are hypertube junctions/branches broken? I cannot get ANY to work for me. pressing "e' does nothing on anything I try to do.

[pliant prawn]

Thats weird. What phase are you in? Is it in the library and maybe not selected yet?

[crude canyon]

You still need so much of it
Like 12 foundries

[ripe elm]

how do i make perfect rail inclines

[dense violet]

build on foundations

[ripe elm]

i use liek a support with double ramps now

[daring stag]

spire coast has one pure fuel source, good for my rocket fuel en masse

[dense violet]

maybe show what you mean in #design-and-architecture ?

[ripe elm]

in the picture you can see itz very inconsistent

[ashen spruce]

We've unlocked all Milestones

and no it's not.

[pliant prawn]

wild. hmm. Try reloading already I'm guessing? I vaguely remember hearing about something like that before happening and I don't remember what the fix was.

[ashen spruce]

Already reloaded, yes.

[pliant prawn]

Bummer. Try checking in #1038092680493801533 and see if anyone else had the problem? Maybe if so the same fix will work.

[sinful zodiac]

Quick question. Is there also a priority splitter? I saw the merger

[dense violet]

smart splitter

the merger is basically pointless

[solid mural]

I despise fluids with the bottom of my heart

[dense violet]

They are very simple at their core. What are you trying to do?

[daring stag]

fluids are simpler than belts

[dense violet]

I wouldn't go that far xD

[solid mural]

no they are not

no the fuck they are not

i hate them
they dont work

[dense violet]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 with overhead images of what you're setting up. I can help you fix it

[solid mural]

ok

[dense violet]

if you've made a satisfactory tools plan for it too, link it

[sinful zodiac]

Okay but here's the thing. Can I use a smart splitter to tell it to send 1/3 of the iron rods to the left and the rest straight?

[dense violet]

that would be a ratio splitter and would break 90% of the problem solving and design of the game

[dense violet]

how you manage that is with machine clocking and selective merging

or load balancing

[willow dawn]

You don't need a smart splitter for that, just use a normal splitter and a merger

[dense violet]

actually a regular splitter will do that most of the time

[dense violet]

in yoru example is the way forward using 2/3 of hte iron and the way to the side using 1/3?

[sinful zodiac]

Yeah that's how I normally solve the problem just wondered.

[willow dawn]

Not sure what you are saying but I think we agree?

[dense violet]

oh prob mis read xD

[willow dawn]

Lol that akwkard moment when you think you have done everything right and after hours find out you didn't hook up one of your blenders to the power gens

ooopsie now I have major sloshing

[solid mural]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1398653202357817527

[daring stag]

anyone calculated how many rocket fuel gen you can put on a single pure oil node

[onyx belfry]

Hello. My game keeps crashing 60 seconds after I log into the game. I've been told to lower the conveyor belt FPS in the settings, however the game won't let me change this setting. How can I fix it?

[fluid sapphire]

Depends on how much rocket fuel you are making, different recipes have different yield

[daring stag]

with nitro you can get 2400 rocket fuel per minute

[fluid sapphire]

For nitro rocket fuel you get 2400 rocket fuel which requires 576 gens at 100%

[daring stag]

I forgot the exact number of fuel use at 250%

[fluid sapphire]

4.1666667 RF per gen

Divide by 2.5

[dense violet]

use satisfactorytools.com

[daring stag]

multiply no?

[fluid sapphire]

No, you need less gens total, so divide

[daring stag]

I mean a 250% gen would use 10.41666675 rocket fuel pm no?

[fluid sapphire]

I thought we were talking about number of generators

[spiral tangle]

One splitter and 2 of 3 outputs enter a merger

[daring stag]

so that's 230 generators at 250%

[fluid sapphire]

But sure, yeah

[daring stag]

yeah we took a different path I think lol

230 generators from a single oil node that's op

[fluid sapphire]

It's fine, infinite powaahhh

[daring stag]

that's where blueprint will come in handy

[fluid sapphire]

Of course

(not me building 1080 generators)

It was easy

[sinful zodiac]

Yeah that's how I usually solve it I was just thinking of they had added a new part I could make my belts even prettier

[dense violet]

load balancing or clocking also does it shrug

[stray loom]

For rocket fuel I found it was easier to use 240% which makes each generator use 10/min but that's just my preference for working with nice round numbers where possible

[daring stag]

good idea actually

[velvet root]

Been playing for 6 hours straight is that normal?

[daring stag]

I disabled the warnings

[harsh sphinx]

can we make all math classes require you to play satisfactory

[dense violet]

take too long and too basic a math

[harsh sphinx]

yes but satisfactory

[dense violet]

I'm not sure you realise how full math curriculums are 😛

[willow dawn]

On the low side 😛

[velvet root]

Rlly?

Do people not have jobs 😭

[willow dawn]

New to gaming addictions?

[velvet root]

Haven't been this addicted to a game in a while.

But it does fade away after 2 weeks which sucks

[chrome gull]

i got a achivment for bouncing on a space giraffe, what does it look like? i was just playing and got it

[willow dawn]

If you don't burn out you can spend a lot more than 2 weeks in this game

Burn out is easy when things get more difficult and large

[velvet root]

cant image spending that much on this game..

[stray loom]

When it gets to double digits it's time to go outside and touch grass. Not for long mind you, there is a factory to run and FICSIT only allows 1 microbreak per day

[willow dawn]

It's the big tick, elephant pegniun thing lol

[willow dawn]

I have spend over 200 hours on this game so far and I am sure many people here have spend FAR more

[chrome gull]

the weird looking tall one?

[willow dawn]

Yes haha

[velvet root]

I've only got close to 100

[chrome gull]

i did not bounce on him

[bright helm]

How to change prefered fuel for my jetpack?

I want to change it to coal

Bc I ran out of solid biofuel

[boreal musk]

press the cog on the jetpack slot

but you cant change it to coal

jetpack can only use all type of packaged fuel and solid biofuel

[bright helm]

Oh thanks. I will have to unlock packager

[willow dawn]

Yes, than you can make liqued biofuel, which is great 🙂

[willow dawn]

Can you use drones to pick up uranium ore?

[boreal musk]

you can pick anything with drones except fluid

[willow dawn]

So they don't break or anything, get iradiated?

[boreal musk]

no such thing in this game

[willow dawn]

I heard something about radiation breaking things

Ok, cool 🙂

[jaunty jewel]

i spent close to that in my first two weeks playing..

[pliant prawn]

Should be my last in game night in Phase 4! So hyped.

[willow dawn]

No work or school I assume?

[willow dawn]

Congratz! Phase 4 is tough

[jaunty jewel]

yeah

[willow dawn]

I am only 1/4th in

[jaunty jewel]

it was during my break

[willow dawn]

Ahh yeah that makes sense

[pliant prawn]

thanks! All the years I've played this is the first time Ive gotten around to actual pasta lmao

[willow dawn]

I also got further this play through than before. played years ago and didn't go far past coal before I burned out

[pliant prawn]

yeah this is my third real attempt but Imma do eet dis time haha.

[willow dawn]

Yeah! You can do it! 🎉

I'm trying to find the best spot for my next factory which will produce Electromagnetic control rods and magnetic field gens

[pliant prawn]

Swamp is OP for that. Itt's just depressing to build in haha

[willow dawn]

The beauty of it is that when the field generators are made it can just focus on making control rods that I will later use for power plants

[willow dawn]

Swamp you say... hmmm I haven't ventured there yet

[solid mural]

If you have a really REALLY long pipeline and its all flat to the ground no elavation changes, will the flow rate stay the same or does the flow rate go down the further the fluid travels?

nobody in the world talks about this i have no idea

[dense violet]

yeah it'll be fine as long as the input manifold works

[willow dawn]

IT stays the same

[solid mural]

okay cool

[dense violet]

though generally it's much easier to bring solids to liquids

[pliant prawn]

Be extremely well armed when you go lol . Its generally flat but it has every resource basically in a circle around it. there's even nitrogen on the other side of a hill. And tons of it is pure

[solid mural]

huh?

[willow dawn]

I have made peace with the beasties. They are set to reactive 😛

[willow dawn]

It's easier to transport solid materials to where you want to use the liqued than the other way around

[willow dawn]

Lol don't know what that emoticon means

[pliant prawn]

big brain. Smart thinking. Compliment to a good strategy.

[willow dawn]

Ahh thanks 🙂

[solid mural]

i have a question about pipelines but its difficult to type very much easier to speak it

[wild plume]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/733404604762554389/1398672641220546651/image.png?ex=688636e7&is=6884e567&hm=92506c338dd918e7839605c827ac5987fd948b856aaa2243b2df61170bba080e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1387&height=789

Is there any way to actually have this branch off to the right? (travelling on the right)

[dense violet]

soz that I'm about to put my head on a pillow :\

[willow dawn]

I think you can flip it around but I haven't really messed with hypertubes

[wild plume]

OH IM A DUMBASS

[prime jasper]

I want to connect two places with trains, are trains network meant to be build with one straight line from point A to B, our should I make a loop that goes from A to B and B to A but there will be on rail for going from A to B, and one going from B to A.

It seems both are possible since I can make the train go both ways by building two locomotives. But maybe only. A straight rail will be come a problem later if I want to develop the fret further?

[coarse epoch]

well that's aggrevating. I wanted to put some water extraction in the little lake north west of the blue crater, and there's a quartz deposit there under the water that I can't seem to harvest, so it's just blocking me

[coarse epoch]

most people make loops

[dense violet]

two lane rail, like a road, is generally simpler. Have stations on the side

technically 2 lane rail is a loop. Just a flat one

[fathom shuttle]

Is there punishment for nuking lizard doggos?

[fathom shuttle]

Yea that’s broken
You can’t remove it

[willow dawn]

There should be, your soul darkens 😦

[coarse epoch]

fuh. I wonder if SCIM could help?

[prime jasper]

Yeah that what was I was thinking about when I was speaking about loops. I don't intend to make the thing circular for no reason.

But thanks for your advice on this, I will go for the loop (or two way rail, however we want to call it).

[willow dawn]

If you don't intend to use the time for more than just 1 train going to pick up a resource going back and forth you can do a push pull setup but in general you will want to expand your train network over time, a double line that loops into itself always gives you more options down the road to expand

[fathom shuttle]

I think so yea

[willow dawn]

I wish there was a lighter metal color, the crome is just too dark I want a nice brushed silver

[cedar portal]

Back when trains were firsst releaseed I built a single track system all around the map which worked great because trains didn't have collisions. When they added collisions I loaded the map and trains were flying through the sky everywhere. Was a glorious mess to fix.

[jagged jackal]

Hello i just started the game , can we swap between items in the hotbar with the mouse wheel is it possible somehow ? I know you can switch between different hotbar , but i want to sccroll between items inside the scrollbar ! thanks 🙂

[open pollen]

I’m don’t think it is possible but I may be wrong. You can scroll to swap between items you have equipped in your hands slots tho

[solid mural]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1398678426642157659

someone please help before i crash out

[cedar portal]

If I just use the mouse wheel it swaps between my items in my hotbar. Alt-scrollwheel swaps the hotbars themselves

[primal dragon]

hey all - coming back to satisfactory since 1.0 and am tinkering w/ auto-connect blueprints. is there a way to get power to autoconnect? i haven't been able to get it working (belts are easy enough, but power ... can't get it to work)

[cedar portal]

Power poles won't autoconnect sadly. Just have to make your blueprint has everythign connected to a single pole so it's easy to connect them.

[primal dragon]

boo 😦 ok ty

[eternal geyser]

hi chat! question: for those of you who come from factorio, how do you deal with the 3d space? i am struggling to feel good about my platform placements and making my factories neat. cause with factorio using underground belts was the best way to cross belts. but here i’m struggling

i say “neat” but i know it’s not gonna be perfect. but id like everything to be on a platform atleast but with elevation changes it feels weird to build 10m above ground and such

[cedar portal]

You can do what I did and just give up and spaghetti belt everything. For actual neat solutions someone else will have to chime in.

[naive pendant]

@eternal geyser The big tips are:

1. Build on raised foundations to get a flat 2D base anywhere
2. Stacking belts is fine but don't overdue it; mix of several 2 high belt stacks does fine.
3. Designing production lines in 2D is easier to keep track of; then stack multiple identical layers for 3D space savings.

[hard ivy]

You can just ignore it. I build most of my factories on a single flat foundation platform, and the only verticality are eventual belt stacks if I run multiple in parallel in a tight space

[naive pendant]

The other big change from Factorio is to build multiple stand alone factories spread across the map since the resources are spread out.

[open pollen]

I personally have a small belt floor inbetween my production floors that is just pure sphaggetti. It keeps the chaos hidden

[cedar portal]

@eternal geyser This is my version of 'neat' by building solid platforms and connecting them.
#screenshots message

[eternal geyser]

yeah that’s another thing i’m struggling with. since there’s no building violence, building cross world factories is totally normal. but i’m just not used to it so it’s crazy to me lol

[cedar portal]

How far into the game are you?

[naive pendant]

It is a bit confusing to think about which items to automate. I personally seperate items into a

1. items used to build machines, factories (always fully automate)
2. items used for combat or rarely in MAM (maybe don't automate)
3. items for space elevator (maybe automate or just temporarily automate)
   So that #1 category I build factories for spread out on the map uploading to the dimensional depot. But the other categories are more flexible.

So you kinda just work through your list of items making factories in each tier to get all the #1 set built.

[thorn mural]

yo guys i want to ask you doing one mega factory for everything and you getting materials with train , or tractor or with conveyor belt on one place or you doing mini factorys and you pringing final item ?

[cedar portal]

Early game I did a mega factory as it was easier to keep bringing each neww ressource in. Later I transistioned to lots of mini factories producing one item and shipping them around as needed.

[open pollen]

I’m doing Mini/medium factories

[thorn mural]

i have everything to tier 4 now i need to get resources to elevator and i have new things so i minding how should i do new factorys

[radiant swallow]

you know, now that i upgraded my power plant, i don't feel so bad about spending so much time on it lmao

i did some math and apparently the particle accelerator i want to build will eat 6000 - 18.400MW

[eternal geyser]

finishing tier 3

[fiery pewter]

Hangry machien

[radiant swallow]

2 powershards and somersloops

for uh.....2 nuclear pasta/minute

[fiery pewter]

Damn, what did you upgrade your powerplant to?

[fiery pewter]

Gotta love the rates

[radiant swallow]

i built a 220GW rocket fuel power plant... and honestly i need more power, so i will make make an 800GW nuclear powerplant

[fiery pewter]

Because why not lol

[radiant swallow]

because idk how much power i will need in the last stage

and having one machine eating about 20GW is a bit of an issue

[fiery pewter]

me chilling with my 2×32 Coal Generator setup :3

[fiery pewter]

Yea

[radiant swallow]

especially since i will need a lot more of those lovely things

[fiery pewter]

Yea, and all of the funny sam stuff

[radiant swallow]

as soon as i automated all the things i need for phase 4, i will start building nuclear power plants

[fiery pewter]

Nice

[cedar portal]

You get more unlocks as you progress that can help with organizing things. But making a logictics floor to seperate out the belts and machines does seem to be the neatest looking

[radiant swallow]

it's a bit of an "oh shit"-reaction after this little bit of power draw spike

[fiery pewter]

I'm guessing it isn't really viable to make 'permanent' setups for space elevator parts before oil power?

[fiery pewter]

Yea

[radiant swallow]

i mean i did

every phase got a new powerplant though lol

[naive pendant]

Infinite power, infinite time gives infinite production even with 1 machine.

[radiant swallow]

i dont have infinite time jimbo, humanity is counting on me

[fiery pewter]

Didn't you say earlier that this is your first playthrough?

[little sonnet]

I just got up to that point I'm not sure if I should just keep using my big coal plant till I get nuclear or go to fuel/oil, do you know if there's a difference big enough for it to make sense

[radiant swallow]

yes

[fiery pewter]

You got further than I ever did

[maiden flare]

I've never made permanent space elevator productions. I just automate all the basic parts and then use "temporary" setups for the space elevator stuff. Though I suppose we'll see if that changes in phase 5

[radiant swallow]

setting up coal for phase 3 is gonna make you crazy. i needed 80 fuel power plants to get past phase 3 and get phase 4 started

[fiery pewter]

I also do that lol

[radiant swallow]

im a factorio player. i just beat space age and that was 166 hours. i got patience lol

[fiery pewter]

Oh nice

[radiant swallow]

i just wanna beat satisfactory because i want to say i did it

[fiery pewter]

Lol

[radiant swallow]

this game also has a completion rate of less than 5% lel

[flat zinc]

Greetings

[fiery pewter]

Hello there

[little sonnet]

I just setup a massive area with a ton of coal gens and only ran 1 space elevator item at a time cos I didn't have a lot of materials to work with, I finished the third a couple hours ago and haven't touched the fourth yet

[fiery pewter]

Yeah, no sh*t with those complicated lines

[flat zinc]

i figured it would be low, considering i saw the other day that less than half of players even make the space elevator

[radiant swallow]

well as in all factory games, your biggest friend is "it's too slow? simply build more"

[maiden flare]

For a while I had the achievement for beating stage 3 but not for building the elevator because I've been playing coop and my friend was the one that actually placed it

[radiant swallow]

yeah this game isn't for everyone. it honestly even tests my patience because the building doesn't feel very nice tbh

i prefer building a small thing and just copy-pasting it all over the area i want to build in, this game doesn't really let me do that lol

[flat zinc]

ohh oof

[flat zinc]

thats a shame. i love this game

currently feeding my starved AWESOME sink

[cedar portal]

Interesting. 32.3% make the space elevator, but 33.8% complete phase one. So once people make the elevator they are hooked, and those that never get there just quit. Amazing how few peopel quit between those two milestones.

[radiant swallow]

it's not that i dislike this game, but i just prefer factorio. you can build really really really large factories in factorio a little easier and faster since it's all top-down and you don't have to fiddle with a first person camera lol

[flat zinc]

yeahh

[flat zinc]

this is the only factory game ive ever played

[naive pendant]

@radiant swallow Where you at in Satisfactory again? Jetpack, hoverpack yet?

[elfin trellis]

never played factorio cuz of garbonzo graphics
Satisfactory+DSP, dont need anything else xD

[flat zinc]

and i prefer first-person games

[flat zinc]

a game can go way beyond graphics. in fact, most do

[radiant swallow]

im in phase 4, i got both, yes, but it takes sooo looong to get those quality of life things, it really.... really ate up my nerves

[cedar portal]

I have played them all, or at least all of them until a year or so ago when they really started to explode. Satisfactory is still my fav.

[flat zinc]

most good games, i should say

[elfin trellis]

it can but its just a personal thing, i cant play what's looking ass

[naive pendant]

Phase 4, nice. Yea building pre jet/hoverpack is a pain. Phase 4 is kinda a lot. Take your time planning all that out.

[radiant swallow]

i care about gameplay a lot more than i do about graphics and the gameplay of factorio just sits better with me tbh

[flat zinc]

very sad

[flat zinc]

yes gameplay should be preffered

[naive pendant]

A lot of people here have played both games. People often get a bit annoyed by comparisons between the game as the comparisons on QoL don't necessarily compare favorably for Satisfactory. And gets old seeing the same things suggested.

[cedar portal]

Satisfactory, Factario, Dyson Sphere Program, Factory Town, Shapez 2 are all my favorites. Oh and grand-daddy feed the beast modded Minecraft.

[radiant swallow]

i just finally got around to setting up my supercomputer factory....after about 6 days of preparations lol

[radiant swallow]

i mean yeah, if all the people coming from factorio complain about QoL, there might be something in the bushes :)

[naive pendant]

I spent like 2 weeks slow roll planning what my phase 4 setup would be.

Yea, I don't disagree. Just pre explaining in case people get prickly with the topic here. I also came from Factorio first, so all good.

[radiant swallow]

my biggest gripe is the small blueprint box lol

[naive pendant]

Yea

[elfin trellis]

ADA says its a skill issue

[radiant swallow]

building a smaller block, copying it, pasting it 4 times and then copying the bigger block and pasting it 4 times is so nice

[radiant swallow]

ADA also doesn't have to manually place 600 fuel power plants

[fathom shuttle]

We need a 16x16 blueprint designer fr fr

[naive pendant]

I more blueprint machines with the belt, splitter, merger, power pole connections. Then paste the exactly how I want since the blueprint size doesn't match how I like to build production lines.

[radiant swallow]

yeeaahhh the belts and mergers are sometimes a bit iffy lol

no way of quickly turning them around either

[naive pendant]

Flip, glip keys. True

[willow dawn]

600 fuel power plants?! My gods where do you even find the space? I just put down 20 and I already felt that was a lot!

[radiant swallow]

i wanted to blueprint a floor belt hole and a vertical belt so i can put 2 inputs and outputs under a foundation. i had to blueprint the foundation or else the blueprint would be incredibly huge lol

[radiant swallow]

ocean is pretty big up north

just build over it lol

[willow dawn]

Do you actually need all that power? Ik have 13GW now and am not even using half of it

[radiant swallow]

but tbf, i was cheating a bit. i used 3 powershards in all of them so it's more like.... uh.... 400

[radiant swallow]

one of the buildings i plan on using will use 18.4GW

[fluid sapphire]

I just recently built 540 generators on a 17x31 slab, it's not a lot of space at all

[naive pendant]

3D for the win, etc.

[radiant swallow]

yeah also a little bit "uh-huh" when i see that the solutions is to simply... build 100m into the air and make a giant platform on stelts lol

[willow dawn]

Sometimes I wish they made the world less pretty lol, I always feel kinda bad destroying the beautiful views

[fluid sapphire]

Huh, just build one floor on top of another, no need for floating anything

[naive pendant]

Well you can build fancy terrain hugged factories that look cool. But I wouldn't recommend it to newer players. That's for fun aesthetic stuff.

[radiant swallow]

i got those 9 cluster nobelisks/minute and im gonna use them

[willow dawn]

On what?

[fluid sapphire]

Clusters are excellent for destroying foliage

[radiant swallow]

correct. this is my first playthrough, so i will just figure out how things work instead of mostly making things look good

[radiant swallow]

rocks, trees, alien fauna

[willow dawn]

lol so to blow up more of the beautiful views

Guess I play very differently 🙂

[radiant swallow]

well it's sometimes a bit in the way of my factory

and i dont want trees clipping into my factory

so off they go

im not using nukes yet so it cant be that bad

[fluid sapphire]

Only destroy where they are in the way

[willow dawn]

I cut down what I absolutely need and leave the rest

turn the trees into liquid biofuel

[radiant swallow]

i mean there are areas like the red forest that are so beautiful that i simply wont build there lol

[radiant swallow]

i dont have any need for that anymore, i use rocket fuel

[ruby mountain]

but all the aluminums up there

[willow dawn]

I am building a factory in the spire coast which I love so I made it on pilars with a glass floor (good thing you can build on roofs) so I can still see the pretty coral

[radiant swallow]

#screenshots message i mean you can just check the coords

[ruby mountain]

(not all of it, but theres a considerable amount there)

[radiant swallow]

i will go there if i really need more

which i doubt, hopefully

if i still need more i will clean up the swamp

i will also make very liberal use of nukes to get rid of spiders

[fathom shuttle]

Lol

I have a giant floating platform for my aluminum xD

[radiant swallow]

i honestly don't even see all that much bauxite up there

[flat zinc]

im going to explode

phase 2 gonna kill me

[fathom shuttle]

Bro?

That’s where half the worlds bauxite is

[radiant swallow]

2 pure, 1 normal and 1 impure node?

[cedar portal]

Speaking of achivements, I don't have the ones for unlocking phase 3 and 4 because I unlocked them before achivements were added. Any easy wway to get these without playing the whole game again?

[fathom shuttle]

Join someone as they’re about to unlock phase 3&4

[cedar portal]

Or beg for some save games right before. Hmm, SCIM seems to let you fiddle with the unlocks for literally everythign in the game EXCEPT the space elevator from what I can see.

[fathom shuttle]

Oh you can make a new game, put all what’s needed for the space elevator and unlock the phases

[cedar portal]

True... hmm.

[radiant swallow]

do you really mean those 2 pure, 1 normal and 1 impure nodes?

[willow dawn]

What do you mean put?

Do you mean with advanced settings?

[cedar portal]

I think using SCIM.

[willow dawn]

Ahh ok, havent messed with that

[fathom shuttle]

You can edit your inventory/storage to put whatever you want in

So you can have millions of Sommer sloops if you want

[lapis crest]

Probably a good idea for my to play with automating car routes before i try trains? It seems Trains are like, cars 2.0 of getting stuff from A to B?

[frail chasm]

Anyone know how to micro-nudge with controller? It feels pretty random

[fathom shuttle]

Or one million tickets

[fathom shuttle]

Yea just press RB

[willow dawn]

I prefer trains so I skipped the cars

[willow dawn]

Yeah so you mean with SCIM

[fathom shuttle]

There are more than that

[lapis crest]

How did you start learning to play with trains? Do i just pick a material a fair distance away that i want

[frail chasm]

Perfect! They buried that one

[fathom shuttle]

Yea it’s kind of buried under the vertical nudging

[willow dawn]

I personally like to watch some youtube vids on how things work though I found out yesterday that a contentious subject in this chat 😛

[fathom shuttle]

I only learned about it because the vertical nudgin was inconsistent

[willow dawn]

But yeah just but trainline if you need to move items a bit further away than you want to belt to

[frail chasm]

Happy days. I wondered why it was so inconsistent, but now know why

Props for controller use btw!

[fathom shuttle]

It’s similar to mkb

[versed plinth]

im unsure if rigor motor is a good recipe rn

[fathom shuttle]

It is imo

[versed plinth]

hmm

i think im not gonna bother for now as im just making modular engines

[fathom shuttle]

Oh yea

It’s only good if you need a lot of them

[versed plinth]

how do i see how many machines i need to produce x output in satisfactory modeler

[barren leaf]

do i absolutely need a fluid buffer when working with oil?

[cedar portal]

Fluid buffers are almost never needed

[barren leaf]

ok sweet, thanks

[frail chasm]

So by using floor holes, belt elevators can be infinitely long. However, you get the "pipe too long" error over the same distance and trying to join via two floor pipe holes. Anyone found a work around?

[fathom shuttle]

Nah

Just build platforms for floor holes

[frail chasm]

Yeah just did that. To be fair, it doesn't look too bad

You can't delete the floor hole though else you lose your pipes

[warped cypress]

anyone have tips for setting up my train im building in the sky?

[lime ermine]

Starting my second same after reaching phase 5 on my last, wish me luck!

[lime ermine]

Just zoop foundations where you want the track and place track on them, keep a jetpack on so you can catch yourself if you fall

[peak wasp]

whaddya need?

[warped cypress]

cool ty

[warped cypress]

just wondering abt any tricks or tips to make it easier / better

[peak wasp]

As lambo said, zoop them foundations and get your track layout. You can always design the supports later after you've finalized the path.

[warped cypress]

cool ty

[ashen spruce]

#screenshots

[quasi rose]

is #1038092680493801533 only for ingame questions or can i ask about the future of satisfactory

[peak wasp]

Here is fine

[quasi rose]

when satisfactory comes to console do you guys think it would require a epic account? my friend has parental stuff and hasnt been able to remove it for years on epic so if he got the game and an epic account is needed then we cant play. Hopefully theres an ingame friends list otherwise he is screwed

[ashen spruce]

Considering that the game is on Steam too and you don't need an Epic Account to play (I'm on epic, so I'm assuming). Why would Console need Epic specifically, and not steam, other than that, I could imagine there being either an ingame friendlist or something with Platform Friendlists (so XBOX, PSN)

[quasi rose]

I was just worried because ready or not requires an epic account for cross platform and we cant even play that together so hopefully youre right

[willow dawn]

I don't know why Epic would have anything to do with consoles

[quasi rose]

ready or not requires epic

[willow dawn]

Also can't he just get a new epic account? I'm not sure what you mean with parental stuff

[peak wasp]

when we create a new save. the 4 places we choose is always the same map right? what changes is where we spawn?

[stiff ibex]

yes

[peak wasp]

why do they give us the option then-

[stiff ibex]

so you can spawn in a different area

nobody wants to walk across the map to start somewhere else

[stray loom]

Because it influences how the game feels when starting out

Maybe you pick one and then you just aren't into where you started so you go change to something else

[lime ermine]

I don't think so, I'm on steam and don't need epic

[peak wasp]

I bet you could find a mod that allows you to steer your drop pod down where you want it, like an ODST lol.

[peak wasp]

Epic. 🤮

[stray loom]

Swamp only challenge run when

[cedar portal]

More strange achievement stats. More people fixed a blown fuse than put down a portable miner. That seems unlikely, weird.

[ashen spruce]

Epic is not bad.

I don't get that anyway.

People who prefer epic mostly hate on Steam and vice versa.

[stray loom]

Maybe people don't realize a portable miner can be used on it's own since they just see it as a requirement to build a miner?

[willow dawn]

I don't have strong feelings either way but if pressed prefer steam

[cedar portal]

A lot of people who dislike Epic do so because of their habit of making new games exclusive to the Epic store, forcing you to use it instead of whatever platform you would rather use. Nobody likes being forced.

That said... they gave Coffee Stain bucketfulls of cassh which let them take their time developing the game and is certianly a reason why it is so good. So, I'm conflicted. A little. Still hate em 😄

[quasi rose]

nah, he doesnt know is xbox password either so he cant do anything. By parental I mean he needs his parents to accept friend requests via email however, they dont use that email anymore as this was years ago and they forgot the password so he entirely screwed

[ashen spruce]

You can put an Epic Game into your steam account tho 💀

[cedar portal]

Yeah but you don't get steam achivements and everything else steam offers and when thats where all your gamees are and all your friends are, it's annoying to be locked out of that. Luckily it was only exclusive for a year, I bought it a 2nd time when it came out on Steam

[ashen spruce]

For Satisfactory it doesn't matter much.

Other than a few QoL Features, the epic version has the same stuff as the steam version

-# QoL from Steam, I mean.

[cedar portal]

I disagree. We never got steam workship for mods for one thing. And I LIKE my Steam QOL features. And i dislike having choices taken awway. As I said, it all worked out but lots of people do NOT like them forcusing us to use their store.

[ashen spruce]

Because a Steam Workshop needs moderation.

And for a game that has countless mods, it's just too much effort.

[cedar portal]

There are lost of plusses and minustes with steam workship but in this case, goign with the Epic store made that not possible

[peak wasp]

steam also records my games in the background seamlessly. I'm making clips for the first time in my life as a filthy casual.

[ashen spruce]

SMM exists for modding, it wouldn't make sense to just have Steam Players be allowed to have mods.

[ashen spruce]

Windows does that too pretty sure.

Unless you have that feature turned off. (I don't know the file location)

[peak wasp]

I think nvidia as well, but last time I tried it was when DOOM 2016 came out and my system couldn't handle it or something.

[rustic otter]

smart splitter has an overflow option correct?

aight gotta research all of that

[peak wasp]

It's my main use for them since I no longer need central storage.

[clever sandal]

I had a dream of conveyor belts running n out of my bed

[peak wasp]

I'm comfortable on steam, so if I can stay on it and not leave, I'm happy. Keeping the friction as low as possible.

[ashen spruce]

Programmable Splitters also exist.

But I feel like most people don't use them.

I haven't used them once up until now in 85h on this save.

[peak wasp]

I did end up using two on my central storage in early access, but for the most part I kept 3 parts per freight car, so it only needed sorted three ways, with another smart splitter at the end for overflow to a sink.

[cedar portal]

I just used a few of them for the first time in a 1200 hour save. Organized all my collectables. Slugs, plants, wood, ect and made a seystem i can dump my inventory into and it sorts everything into various boxes, including one for junk andd another for all the stuff I always want to keep like jetpack fuel and ammo. but other than that... only good if peopel want to make sushi belts that are even more complicated than normal.

[rustic otter]

people just dont like putting multiple things on a single line

[ashen spruce]

Programmable Splitters are most likely just for the option to have belts with more than 3 different Items on them to be sorted or having a belt of 3 random items and you want 2 of those outputted to the left.

[cedar portal]

Well some people love it but the game really punsihes you for it so you have to be pretty dedicated to do it

[peak wasp]

HE SAID THE WORD!

[distant pulsar]

coupon

[rustic otter]

i can see a use for it inventory dumping into a storage crate after an expedition and it sorting to DD for storage

[ashen spruce]

coupon?!

[cedar portal]

Why the heck woudl you store stuff in the Deep Desert when it wipes every week? Wait... I'm getting confused over what game I'm playing again...

[rustic otter]

dimensional depot

[ashen spruce]

next person to write in chat gets a free lizard doggo

[rustic otter]

hi

[ashen spruce]

mercer sphere

[peak wasp]

Woosh

[rustic otter]

give me doggo

[ashen spruce]

you didn't follow the instructions.

[distant pulsar]

coupon...!

[ashen spruce]

coupon!

Sitting on 2250 Coupons

[distant pulsar]

I have a coupon my wrist

[hasty cradle]

I love wasting coupons

[ashen spruce]

I already bought 2 golden nuts

[willow galleon]

hi

[distant pulsar]

keep calm and coupon building

[hasty cradle]

In early game i spend them on iron rods💀

I bought 2 space Giraffe penguin tick whale thing statues

[willow galleon]

hello

[versed plinth]

is it possible to fit 4 manufacturers in one 5x5 blueprint with connected inputs and outputs?

[hasty cradle]

Hi

[hasty cradle]

Yes

5x5 is mk2 right?

[versed plinth]

yes

[hasty cradle]

Think you can

[versed plinth]

i cant get the splitters to connect

[hasty cradle]

Vertical splitters are a thing

[versed plinth]

yes

[hasty cradle]

I hate autocorrect

It took me 4 tries to type splitters

[willow galleon]

zelda

[versed plinth]

i figured it out

pog

[grizzled lotus]

I need some guidance. I want to make Control Units, which requires 3 thigns that I'm building in different biomes; Crystal Oscillators on the edge of the Dune Desert, Computers near the Rocky Desert, and Aluminum Casings in the poisonous swamp.

[willow galleon]

hi im the child of HAOHMARU how are you guys

[ashen spruce]

hi im the brother of right how are you guys

[willow galleon]

good brother of right

[ashen spruce]

I'm also good, child of HAOHMARU .

[willow dawn]

What do you need guidance with?

[ashen spruce]

-# you did not see the misspell

[cedar portal]

Trains or drones will both work to get stuff where it needs to go.

[grizzled lotus]

how do I do it

I guess trains are the way. I don't have drones yet

[willow dawn]

There ya go 🙂

Or just build a new factory that has all or most things made there

[willow galleon]

im the daughter of him nice to see you all

[willow dawn]

This chat is becoming a family meeting 😛

[willow galleon]

treu

[stray loom]

Any reason you can't also make the crystal oscilators near the computers? If you have the iron wire recipe you only need iron and quartz

[willow galleon]

............

no

hello somebody here?

[grizzled lotus]

part of the reason I moved to a new biome is to find more available node resources

[willow galleon]

what are you guys talking about right now im a daughter i donnt know

are you guys talking about zelda?

[grizzled lotus]

no, a game called Satisfactory

I think this account has been child-hacked

[willow galleon]

........child-hacked seriously

[willow dawn]

hahaha

Is it just me or does that tag make anybody else think of the yellow app?

[willow galleon]

yes

lets start again hi im the daughter of HAOHMARU and my real name is hailey

[willow dawn]

Don't tell people your name on the internet

Or anything about your life really

Nobody needs to know

[willow galleon]

sorry CASSANDRA :C

[willow dawn]

Darling, thats not my real name

[willow galleon]

ik

[half scaffold]

My name is Inigo Montoya...

[willow galleon]

but im naming you on your username

[cedar portal]

But I don't have a six fingered hand!

[willow dawn]

I have 10 fingers so I guess I'm save... or do I

[willow galleon]

no

[half scaffold]

Oh well in that case I am Keyser Soze

[uncut trail]

my steel production lowk cooked 🥀

[willow galleon]

cassandra

[flint grail]

This is making my brain hurt. I have Mk6 belts going into a sink, but yet the items are moving at Mk5 speeds

[willow dawn]

Check to make sure there isn't a lift somewhere MK5 that is slowing it down

[flint grail]

Not on the direct line to the sink, and even then the lift isn't full

[cedar portal]

Followw it from the ssource, see where the speed drops. probably a sneaky belt somewhere

Sometimes you can get a tiny short belt inside the entrance to a machine or a lift

[willow dawn]

Ugh that akwkard moment when there is STILL something wrong with your powerplant setup...

[flint grail]

Bruh, it's the splitters, again...

Or not?

Ugh, this is so confusing. Hang on

[cedar portal]

If it's a short line, delete it all and make it again

[flint grail]

I don't think the belt is full

It isn't, that's why the 780 is there

[wanton apex]

I've been procrastinating oil production for a long time, partially because I know I wanted to use some alternate recipes (although I don't quite remember what they were)

[willow dawn]

probaly HOR and deluted fuel

[lean ferry]

why do I keep saying anyways I really need to find a better way to introduce myself

time to spend 2 hours and a half scanning 16 hard drives 💔

[willow dawn]

Good luck!

Ok, I think I fixed my power plant and build in some redundancies...

Untill I check my power later of course and find it is once again fluctuating

[uncut trail]

is iron pipe alt recipe good or should i stick with original

[willow dawn]

Depends 🙂 (I know everybody says that for everything)

If you want to build a pipe factory and don't have coal handy but have a lot of Iron nearby (which is likely) it's great

It just takes a lot more iron 🙂

[wanton apex]

I was looking at the wiki for "Diluted Packaged Fuel" when "Diluted Fuel" is another alternate recipe and it goes through a blender, while DPF goes through a refinery- I guess I understand it, but at the same time ???

[willow dawn]

haha yeah

I prefer the "Diluted Fuel"

[elder apex]

you can access diluted packaged fuel earlier in the game than diluted fuel since it only requires packagers and refineries vs blenders

[wanton apex]

I can definitely get why

When you use packaged fuel, turbofuel, etc, does it consume the canister as well?

[willow dawn]

I used both HOR and diluted fuel in my latest power plant (the one causing me all this headache) to make fuel for power gens and packaged fuel for my drones

[elder apex]

depends on the recipe for machines, for vehicles yes the container is consumed

[willow dawn]

The plan is to send drones out to every new far away factory to deliver fuel so they can all run their own drones

I am making about 150 packaged fuel, hope it's enough

[wanton apex]

good to know

alright well I might as well bite the bullet and start on it- I'm going to the northern coast to use the oil spots there, and I plan to save the western islands solely as an oil plant

[ruby mountain]

so splitters can just be slapped on lifts now? o they can neat

[cedar portal]

150/min should be more than enough, I have a factory making 20 warp drives/min with 130 drone sstations and it runs fine off 50 batteriesss/min

[willow dawn]

130 drones?!? I am always blown away by how much bigger people build

[frail sleet]

regular fuel is not great for drones, better to make small quantities of rocket fuel

[willow dawn]

I'm not there yet

[frail sleet]

about 3 per min per drone at most

[frail sleet]

rocket fuel unlocks earlier than drones

[willow dawn]

Correction, it can unlock earlier if your reseach it, which I have not 🙂

[frail sleet]

trivial research though

[willow dawn]

The plan is to eventually expand the powerplant/ packaged fuel plant to get to turbo and then rocket fuel

But I am taking it one step at a time not to get overwhelmed and burn out

Considering I make more power and fuel now than I need there is no great need to upgrade my powerplant either

[stiff ibex]

i just took a section of my rocket fuel production and turned it into a fuel hub that distributes to all the other drones

but im gonna eventually have to stop using drones if i want to max out power

[willow galleon]

hello im the daughter

[cedar portal]

Need to use trains for the amount of materials to move?

[stiff ibex]

thats one of the reasons

i want to hit the max potential power possible

and if i want to do that i need to use trains which dont use fuel so i can burn the fuel

[uncut trail]

that bitch mk4 fastt

[distant pulsar]

🫸 drones

🤝 30-lane mk6 belt highways

[uncut trail]

im in too much poverty for those now

[stiff ibex]

truth nuke

[stiff ibex]

600 mk 1 belt highway

[willow dawn]

I'm really liking the idea of drones, hopefully they will work out for what I have in mind

[stiff ibex]

try to refine off site with drones

[uncut trail]

bros math is mething

anyone watchin ufc?

[stiff ibex]

30 mk 6 belts would be 600 mk 1 belts i believe

every mk 6 belt is 20 mk 1

[last tartan]

guys do you suggest getting turbo heavy fuel, idk anything about those recipes yet

[stiff ibex]

No

try to get diluted fuel recipe with the blender

it basically turns water into fuel

[uncut trail]

i have 3 industrial storages full with iron rods, plates and screws

im drowning

[stiff ibex]

does he know

[uncut trail]

what

[stiff ibex]

the item that takes 3 industrial storages and 1 more:

[reef basin]

or the packaged variant which is available earlier and has same oil to fuel efficiency

[stiff ibex]

truth aswell

but unpackaging is kinda annoying

[flint grail]

Should items be stopping for a second as they go through the merger?

[reef basin]

nah, you make a 1:1:1 blueprint with small belt loop and 20 canisters and use it as a "blender"

[uncut trail]

this game lowk healed my but damaged me beyond healing

[ruby mountain]

@prisma yoke #screenshots message
yep, and opening the build menu can cause lag as well, which you can intentionally abuse to climb cliffs very quickly

[willow dawn]

Are you ok?

[ruby mountain]

(although it seems the codex may be laggier)

[uncut trail]

wsp

[dusk moon]

does anyone have any tips for planning a big factory? im starting to get into bigger and bigger projects as i play the game more and these big numbers are starting to hurt my head

[stiff ibex]

use a calculator, either the website tool, or the steam tool

or if you wanna just do the math manually start from the goal item you want and work backwards

[reef basin]

there are third-party planning tools (e.g. #welcome has some)

and generally you don't need big amounts of items, so don't plan any big numbers, 5-15/min for most items is usually more than enough

[dusk moon]

the problem is the tool its too foreboding

[stiff ibex]

foreboding?

[dusk moon]

like overwhelming? theres a lot of stuff to place

[willow dawn]

Satisfactory tools has a very simple one, it's great

Or at least for me

Just put in what you want to get and it will visually show you all the steps and what is needed

[stiff ibex]

i find it helps if before I start building i get a basic foundation/space to build everything and all resources routed neatly into that space before i build a single machine

i also find it helps if you sort from top to bottom on the website tool, the left-right feels weirder for me

[dusk moon]

also is it better to plan a factories design first or design around machines?

[willow dawn]

To me thats step two

[uncut trail]

js unlocked industrial manufacturing

[reef basin]

I'd build machines first and then encase it into a building

[stiff ibex]

i like to have the resources flowing while im building so i can diagnose problems as i go instead of troubleshoot after its done

[willow dawn]

Design is the last step to me

[uncut trail]

this might be it for me chat 😂 🤞🏻

[reef basin]

eventually you'll learn to combine those two together

[dusk moon]

okay ill try and tackle this factory again

[stiff ibex]

the concept of designing a factory seems so foreign to me lmao

circuit board aesthetic

[distant pulsar]

Everybody hold on I'm going to get groceries I'll be right back

[prisma yoke]

ok man

[stray loom]

No design. Only spaghetti

[winter spoke]

why fluid train platform might not fill with input pipe fluid?

feels like a bug

[uncut trail]

sounds like a skill issue

[stray loom]

Train platforms don't input or output while a train is docking but if that isn't the case then you got some pipe not hooked up

[lime ermine]

Is the station powered?

[winter spoke]

powered, set as "load", pipes connected are full of fluid

[uncut trail]

js found out momentum you build while exiting a travel tube is massive

[lime ermine]

Huh

@winter spoke make a post in #1038092680493801533 with some screenshots, they usually help

[prisma yoke]

does one shot consume one rifle ammo? I as⁠sumed each rifle ammo was 15 shots because it shows you loading one rifle ammo and refills to 15 shots but im realizing it might consume more than one ammo

[lime ermine]

It consumes one ammo per shot

One clip is 15 pieces of ammo

[tall plover]

Is there a setting for splitters to give a directional output the option of "Any and Overflow"?

[lost wagon]

if I put a train timetable and for the train to reach the station it needs to pass through another station, does it just past through without stopping?

[last tartan]

#math-and-meta message can i have some delicious feedback on this garbage coal plant

[steady glade]

just give it Any, it'll take all it can, Overflow is useless if Any cant take anymore

[tall plover]

good point, forgot abouti that

so itll prefer the side with the specificed item?

[real canyon]

im making 2700 rocket fuel a minute now how many burners do i need to convert that into power? or how much rocket fuel a min does one burner use?

[steady glade]

a train station has a penalty of +100m in the path finding

[steady glade]

not quite, any has the sane priority as a specified item. use any undefined to avoid that behavior

[prisma yoke]

the wiki says fuel powered generators use 4.1666667 meters cubed per minute of rocket fuel. 2700 divided by that amount works out to 648 fuel powered generators

[willow dawn]

What does that mean?

[willow dawn]

Yes, it does for me

[cedar portal]

it means when the game is pathfinding, it considers a train station as being 100m longer than it really is, to hopefully make thr train go around it if a straighter path exists.

[real canyon]

so i need 648 generators🫣 how the

[prisma yoke]

I didn't know that. I guess that explains why they prefer pas⁠sing loops when available

[willow dawn]

Ahh, well that didn't really answer their question though it is interesing information to know

[stray loom]

Do you want the base number, the full overclock number, or the sane overclock number?

[real canyon]

bese number of generators

[willow dawn]

It is good aswell cause you wouldn't want a train to wait for a station when they don't even need to go there waiting for another train to load/unload

[steady glade]

no that was a perfect explanation of what i said, imagine that a station you dont stop at is a sort of space anomaly, you really dont wanna go in there if possible but if a detour taikes too long, you'll take the risky path

[tall plover]

use power shards

[real canyon]

gonna need to build the Burj Khalifa to have the space

[stray loom]

Then yeah you need 648. 647 will run at full speed and the last will be like 99.94%. Full overclock is ~259.2. The sane overclock is 240% so each one is 10/min meaning 270

[tall plover]

270 is managable

[real canyon]

gonna need to overclock than

[lost wagon]

didn't want to do a split because it's never simple without having to rework part of the track for it to fit, but at least if it's too much work I can just leave it going through the station anyway

[tall plover]

you should overclock any big factories

[ashen belfry]

Go big or go home.
I placed more than 2000 in my world lol

[willow dawn]

Indeed but their question was if a train would just pass through a station without stopping if it was on their way

[tall plover]

using how much crude oil?

[willow dawn]

Which it does if it's not on the timetable of that train

[real canyon]

im going to to 270 with 240% overclock thanks

[steady glade]

exactly what i said, it will try to avoid the train station if the detour isn't too long, but it will pass through the station if the detour adds too much time, or length actually

[willow dawn]

Haha I feel like we are talking in circles. You answered a question that was not asked even if it is related an interesting information indeed

[prisma yoke]

how am i supposed to make my train lines match the world grid without having really sharp 90 degree corners

[tall plover]

make blueprints for rails

[lost wagon]

you can make a 90º corner using a 3x3 foundation

[last tartan]

is there a way to move something without dismantling it

i have batteries i dont wanna destroy:(

[prisma yoke]

i wish!

[last tartan]

rest in peace big badderi

[steady glade]

he asked if a train will pass through a station if its not on its time table. i answered: if taking a detour towards the actual next station isnt longer than the straight path + 100m, then it will take the detour, otherwise it will pass through the station

[rich torrent]

Every time i log into my game i have 150 stators in my inventory no matter how often i get rid of them

[lost wagon]

that's a lot of hidden words within "a train station has a penalty of +100m in the path finding"

[ashen belfry]

All from blue crater

[prisma yoke]

free stators!

[uncut trail]

is there any good alt steel recipe i cant afford allat coal

[lavish burrow]

solid steel

[uncut trail]

which hard drive has it

[steady glade]

i understand, thats my fault, i should have explained what path finding actually is, but that'd have added another paragraph to my first explanation

[lavish burrow]

the one on the left

[uncut trail]

not too helpful init

[stray loom]

You're better off trying to find alternates that let you make steel products without using steel

[lavish burrow]

i strongly disagree

[uncut trail]

im tryna automate heavy modular frames and need more steel for encased beams

i only have one iron pipes recipe

[lavish burrow]

yeah, that is not a good choice to use for heavy modular frames

[prisma yoke]

i guess coke steel exists. that seems like the only alt for steel ingots that doesnt need coal based on the wiki

[uncut trail]

yea not planning to

[tall plover]

i also strongly disagree

[lavish burrow]

coal is actually the third most plentiful resource on the map, only behind limestone and iron. water does not count

[tall plover]

2 iron ingots, 2 coal = 3 steel

[tall plover]

well youre also forgetting about ||the friends we made along the way||

[uncut trail]

yea but i only have 2 nodes near me and outside of those nearest ones are 1.5km away

[lavish burrow]

oh, and solid steel also has the benefit of using iron ingots, thus being able to take advantage of alternates for iron

[lavish burrow]

i find that heavy modular frames are usually a good time to start making those more distant factories instead of trying to squeeze by with what you still have nearby

[uncut trail]

i have oil shit on other side of the map barely managing those

[lavish burrow]

it's also worth mentioning that you don't need to worry about producing a lot of heavy modular frames all at once

[prisma yoke]

ive been using satisfactory-calculator.com to design my production lines but ive noticed that if i have any unlocked alts selected it seems like maybe it always tries to use the alts unless im misunderstanding? i worry that if i just select all the alts i have it might use one even if its worse than just not using the alt. should i be concerned about this? is there a different planner i should be using?

[lavish burrow]

i personally prefer satisfactorytools

[willow dawn]

They asked if the train would stop 😉

[bronze atlas]

it always lets me pick which recipe i use when i drag the produced item off the other factory

but i build backward from the target producer, not sure if you're building differently

wait sorry i am mixing up tools im still using satisfactory modeller 🤦‍♂️

[lavish burrow]

but I like satisfactorytools because I find it works waaaay nicer for very complex builds where i'm working with essentially total amounts of clock speed per production task

[steady glade]

they specifically asked if the train would "just pass through without stopping"

[willow dawn]

Yes...

[lavish burrow]

a train should not stop at a station it's pathing through unless it is explicitly headed there on it's timetable

[steady glade]

to which i thought about whether it'd pass even through, not whether it'd stop

[willow dawn]

Ok I am done now with this circular conversation. Thank you for the information about the pathing though

[lavish burrow]

i forget what the exact amount is, but I believe stations add some amount of path weight that makes a train consider it to be a longer route than it actually is

[last tartan]

i need help figuring out how to route these damn pipes

[lavish burrow]

iirc there used to be a bug that could happen before trains had collision that involved a train intersecting with a train that was docking but. well, that isn't really relevant now.

[radiant swallow]

which turbo motor recipe is the best?

[prisma yoke]

it'd be nice if i could see a list of all the alts i have unlocked in my save for setting settings on planner tools

[willow dawn]

It would be nice if I saw all the potential ones too (like I unlocked them but didn't choose them)

[pastel carbon]

Try playing around with all 3 recipes in satisfactory tools

All 3 recipes have their advantages and disadvantages

[distant pulsar]

Ok I'm back thank you for your patience

[uncut trail]

"purity:temp" fuck does that mean

[distant pulsar]

If you ever have any questions about which recipes to use, or recipes ranking, just ping greeny

[fossil solstice]

I'm guessing this may be a well know issue...

Installed and played 1.1 on steamdeck first after a few years. Now I just went back to play on my PC and the keyboard input randomly stops working.

Its an easily reproducible issue, I can share steps if needed.

I've tried hard-setting FG.InputMode to 0, but its still periodically failing to accept keyboard input.

Anyone having this issue? Is there a known fix?

[distant pulsar]

try posting in #1038092680493801533

[fossil solstice]

Tried: New save, hardcoding FG.InputMode, full restart, etc etc...

[prisma yoke]

i as⁠sume it refers to one of those little nodes of ore that break after you mine from them a bit

[fossil solstice]

done, thanks

[unkempt blade]

or roll dice and let it decide which one you use

[pastel carbon]

Tbh that isn't a bad idea if you want to have some fun

[uncut trail]

where can i find coke steel ingot recipe

[unkempt blade]

in a crashed ship

[bronze atlas]

from a hard drive scan, random chance

[uncut trail]

wait hard drive has random chances?

its not like each one has specific recipe?

[stray loom]

Correct

[bronze atlas]

unless im misinformed, yes

that way when you have to use a hard drive as a material component for something you don't have to sacrifice a recipe

[stray loom]

When you scan a hard drive it picks a random recipe out of the pool you have available which is influenced by which milestones and which MAM research you have completed

[humble osprey]

This mod that makes everything more complicated. I think it was called satisfactory plus? Thinking of getting that for my second playthru

[last tartan]

#math-and-meta message can someone help me involving this pipe issue

[uncut trail]

im starting to hate this game

[last tartan]

me too sea salt

[unkempt blade]

2 on one end and 1 on the other end is easy

[last tartan]

so rig two together feeding from one side, then put the third one on the other side?

[unkempt blade]

or all on the same side but loop the start and end of the pipe

either one should handle sloshing fine

[last tartan]

thank you

[tawdry bridge]

hey guys, is this chat appropriate to ask fluid questions?

[uncut trail]

fym

[last tartan]

i put effort into my microsoft paint drawing 😭

[uncut trail]

are you tryna build coal generators?

[last tartan]

da

[uncut trail]

pizda

[fluid sapphire]

its ok for simple stuff, for anything more involved is better to post in #1038092680493801533

because that allows pics and stuff

[tawdry bridge]

pretty much my question was if i have a fluid buffer on top of a cliff and the pipes leading up are 90 degrees and i am using pumps, and there isn't an exit on the other side of the buffer, why is there draining on the buffer

[reef basin]

I wouldn't recommend using buffers tbh

[fluid sapphire]

whats the purpose of the buffer

are you transporting fluids by train? if not, get rid of buffer

[tawdry bridge]

it seems that the pipe is full leading up, but not leading down the cliff to feed my coal generators

[unkempt blade]

doesn't seem like this should happen if there's a pump/enough headlift but I also agree that fluid buffers are more trouble than they're normally worth

[tawdry bridge]

no its like a water tower, i am having the water being pumped up and the gravity carry the water down to my generators.

[fluid sapphire]

you dont need the buffer for that

[reef basin]

yeah I wouldn't recommend water towers either 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

for once i agree with greeny, just use pumps

[tawdry bridge]

i tried using just pumps and pipes, but the water is full going up the cliff, but the pipe that carries the water down is empty

[fluid sapphire]

maybe its better if you post in #1038092680493801533
and put some pics so we can diagnose

[tawdry bridge]

like in gam epics, or a diagram i drew in paint, lol

[fluid sapphire]

if you have an appropriate amount of pumps you shouldnt have flow issues

[uncut trail]

i just picked up alien orb thing and ada started tweaking the fuck out

[fluid sapphire]

screenshots, diagrams of desired behavor, anything that can help

[prisma yoke]

decided to try out satisfactory tools and im already starting to prefer it

the ui is nice and it feels a bit more flexible

[lean ferry]

guys what alt recipes are good for making a turbo motor factory (stators, rotors and motors are my main problem)

[uncut trail]

which one is better heavy oil residue or tempered caterium ingot recipe

wait i can rescan?

[fathom shuttle]

Stator default recipe is good, you can use Caterium stators if you like
Steel rotors are very good
Rigor motors are great for large quantities because you only need to bring quartz for them
Electric motors & electric turbomotors works well with Caterium stators

[tawdry bridge]

ok i've made the post

[fathom shuttle]

Get heavy oil residue

[tawdry bridge]

im very prim atm so pls spare me 🙏

[lean ferry]

dont want to use quartz or caterium, ive been told that molded pipes+wet concrete can make stators easy af and iron wire aswell

[fathom shuttle]

Tbh I wouldn’t bother with any alts for pipes that isn’t iron pipe
Need steel? Bring in more coal
Don’t have coal? Use the pure iron recipe iron pipes

[last tartan]

i fixed pipline, china approve of piperine

[fathom shuttle]

How many turbomotors are you making?

[lean ferry]

ussing turbo pressure planning to make 3 then slooping to 6

[fathom shuttle]

Use default recipe then

But you should still use steel rotors

[fossil solstice]

Ok yeah not getting any help on this. Anyone else experienced this issue?

[verbal yoke]

why on earth is it that you can't place resource well extractors without the pressurizer being powered, like it's a little stupid, no?

[unkempt blade]

I don't actually know the answer to this but does satisfactory support steamdeck/linux?

[real canyon]

i need the biggest satisfactory nerd there is, so... i just made a megaprint on SCIM but those are not visible or usable in the game directly so i canched the file type from cbp to sbp, now i see the megaprint in the game but if i try to use it my game crashes instantly

[fossil solstice]

yeah works great on steamdeck

especially with the new controller support

[fair viper]

Is there some kind of fix for multiplayer mate getting crashes like ever 30 minutes? He already tried directx 11

[elder apex]

megaprints are only usable in SCIM, they are not a part of the game at all.

[fossil solstice]

however, now, on PC, my input keep failing despite chaning multiple settings and such

as if somehow a cloudsave introduced a bug... tried changing and siabling various things but no go

[real canyon]

cant i convert SCIM megaprints into usable blueprints?

[jaunty slate]

is there plans regarding official steam deck support? I'd love to see the game with a "Great on Deck!" tag, since I've seen people complaining about how bad the game gets on the end game

[elder apex]

no, megaprints are basically game saves that SCIM can paste into other save games

[fossil solstice]

unsure, there are a ton of games that arne't "Great on Deck" that are still fantastic to play with just "verified"

and community settings

I imagine, just like building out a massive factory and getting PC frame drops that the deck is worse

haven't got that far on a steamdeck game

and I'm not going to get that far on this new save if my keyboard input keeps failing 🤦‍♂️

[jaunty slate]

I've done my research, since not having the tag may not really mean much, but I saw people saying that frame drops happens. I do reckon that if frame drops in the late game is common on pc it would also happen in the deck, if not even worse

[fossil solstice]

yes it will be worse, no doubt

[bronze atlas]

Question about the scim planner, when it says units/min on a belt, is that just the minimum supply necessary to support the factory? i assume its going to need to be a saturated belt right? I.E. there's no way to tell a splitter to go 66% items down the left belt the rest to the right belt, other than for the belts to be saturated and it just goes where there is room for it?

[ivory condor]

Generally I would not recommend using scim megaprinting, in my testing I found many issues with it. Even assuming it doesn't cause the save to crash for any number of reasons, more recently I found it can also cause severe performance issues for buildings copied with it, probably more issues to beyond that

I think my only recommendation given the issues I have experienced first hand with megaprints is not to use them, seems they aren't exactly compatible with the game for any number of reasons, or the compatibility is so poor they aren't worth trying to use

[uncut trail]

bruh i got solid steel recipe instead of coke

should i rescan

[humble osprey]

Do u want it tho

[uncut trail]

i dont mind it but i want coke steel recipe

its gamble

[humble osprey]

Personally, I hate the coke steel recipie cuz it involves oil

[peak wasp]

hello, i have a train who load 4x freighter of concrete.
i want unload freighter 1 on station 1, freighter 2 on station 2 etc. is possible?

[humble osprey]

Yes it's possible

Just set freighter station 1 as unload on station 1

[acoustic heart]

Phase four is so much work, man.

[acoustic heart]

I got that recipe because I thought it was coal 🙃

[peak wasp]

uhm but if i set unload on station 1 , the train not unload all 4x freighter?

[humble osprey]

Set only one freighter station to unload

[peak wasp]

where can do it?

ahh ok ok understnad

the structure freighter station

[humble osprey]

Yes

[peak wasp]

eh no i want set all unload for create a minor number of station

okok yes in this way i do, but i want have a single station with 4x freighter station on ounload, 1 for concrete 2 for ciruit etc etc

[elfin trellis]

loading cargo in car bugged sometimes? i have to click random shit before it actually loads cargo (and move out and in the car)

[bronze atlas]

im not sure theres a way to turn unload stations off on a train, you might have to build a station that only unloads the specific car for each different item if you are planning to have seperate trains each be loaded with only 1 type of item.

[real canyon]

ok thanks than im gonna stick with good old manual building, the build isnt gonna be too big should only take 3-6 hours i think

[peak wasp]

ok is same i find at the moment,t hanks 😄

[bronze atlas]

i suppose the other option is to have only one train that goes to a particular station and have the loading stations load specific cars, or to just have a sorting array and not care which station unloads which item

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah sometimes it gets bugged out. reloading the game fixes it too

[peak wasp]

ok thanks

[ivory condor]

Modded bp designers are more safe to use with the game to, so you can use those for larger prints. I think part of the issues arise for things built outside of the game, so as long as its built in game it should be fine to use

[reef basin]

personally I wouldn't recommend using SCIM's planner

[dense turtle]

dang i just build a big factory and it turns out half of my machines didnt have belts at all lmao

i skipped that part entirely

but who needs belts anyways i got bluetooth

[primal flax]

if i have no water near me for coal power do i just have to stick with biofuel

[dense turtle]

just go somewhere where u have water and send coal there with a belt

[primal flax]

i literally cant find any water

[dense turtle]

sticking to biofuel is booo

come on

press M

[primal flax]

ohhhhhhh

[dense turtle]

no blue there?

[fluid sapphire]

water is literally the most abundant resource available

[primal flax]

i havent even seen the map before haha

[dense turtle]

how is that engine called in english

that u use rotors for

[languid swift]

electric motors?

[fluid sapphire]

just motor

[dense turtle]

just motor yeah thanks

3 motors per minute might be a little short

i guess i will just create another factory

[fluid sapphire]

if its just for use as a building material, its fine

[pseudo vine]

hey im new to satisfactory does anyone have any tips on bulding larger factories?

[languid swift]

i spent 6 hours automating 12 per minute

[torpid mortar]

Bro I need help with my Water extraction only support 3 coal gen but couldn’t give enough(pipelines only built with Green integrity)

[dense turtle]

yeah? i mean i need 250 rn so it will take over an our for 1 objective, and what else rather than building material

[fluid sapphire]

motors are used for a bunch of other things too

[dense turtle]

like what

sorry to bother u

[white dawn]

Yeah, Water Extractors at their default clock will produce 120/min water, whereas each coal generator needs 45/min

[wise junco]

waves at apocalyptech

[dense turtle]

i can crank 10 per minute with iron pipe recipe

thats what imma do

[fluid sapphire]

modular engine (elevator part), turbo motors, cooling device, couple other things

[white dawn]

So a single extractor can support a little bit under 3 coal gens. You can make use of over/underclocking to make the numbers line up, if you like. We often end up advising people to build them in groups of 3 Extractors per 8 Coal Generators, 'cause the numbers add up nicely there

(3 Extractors provide 360/min, 8 Coal Generators need 360/min, and groups of 8 generators consume coal in nice numbers for your miners)

[fluid sapphire]

i guess mostly turbo motors

[white dawn]

The main problem to solve there is that mk1 pipes can only support 300/min total, so you need to be clever with your piping

You can search for "coal-powered generator" on https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/ for some piping arrangements which work for that, if you want some spoilers. :)

[dense turtle]

so 10 per minute and additional for elevator part i think will be good

[white dawn]

Alternatively, if you have overclocking/underclocking enabled, you could underclock your water extractors to 75%, at which point they'll perfectly supply 2 Coal Gens each. (75% of 120 is 90)

[fluid sapphire]

sure, you can always make more later though

i got through phase 3 with like 5 motors per min i think?

i did have to wait for things a bit sometimes

[dense turtle]

ayee 3 irons near eachothe

jackpot

[fluid sapphire]

big time

[dense turtle]

and theres water with coal too? holy i should have lived here

[naive palm]

the steel trinity
water, coal, and the holy iron

[dense turtle]

idk if i should use steel pipes if theres coal 500 meters away

yeah with coal i will get 15 per minute

without 10

okay nah 40 constructors added up for rods and screws

this gonna be my biggest build yet and its for 1 material

[fluid sapphire]

screws 🤮

[naive palm]

Early game you have to do what you have to do - but yeah. One of the first things I do is find alt recipes to factor out any screw production.

The sheer volume of screws you need as you scale up explodes faster than your belt upgrades can match.

[lime ermine]

Steel screws my beloved ♥️

[ashen belfry]

There so many great alternates for screws. Even early on

[dense turtle]

hey i got this

[naive palm]

yeah cast screws and steel screws mitigate the annoying rod production step - but optimizing them out entirely is zen.

[dense turtle]

literally now i opened mam and got this recipe

[naive palm]

Like I said though. Early on when you don't have good exploration tools, busting out some screws and unlocking more tools is better than looking for the 'perfect' recipe.

[dense turtle]

and its gonna be 20 motors per minute with a whopping 6 times less constructors for screws

got from 22 to 4, well almost 6 times

[lime ermine]

It's my single most used alt

[dense turtle]

yeah its insane

wait does it use beams or ingots

[lime ermine]

Really helps with things like hmfs where you literally need over a thousand screws a minute sometimes

[dense turtle]

okay im so hyped for this build

[lime ermine]

Beams

[dense turtle]

and i realised some things from my latest factory so this ones gonna be even better

[pseudo vine]

does anyone know a better way to find quartz?

[lime ermine]

Scan for it

[ivory condor]

Tips, bp as much as possible, so you dont get burned out building larger factories

[lime ermine]

Don't unless you need to

[pseudo vine]

the only quartz is like 2000 meters away

[naive palm]

Purely for example, here is one setup I use to crank out motors. If you have steel nearby this is even easier:
#screenshots message

[lime ermine]

Then that's the closest you'll get

[pseudo vine]

ok

[lime ermine]

Just belt it, it'll take a minute to set up but one it's moving it'll get to your place at the same rate as anything else

[fluid sapphire]

thats what i did once upon a time, 1.5km belt for quartz

[dense turtle]

i got a 1.2 for coal but i wonder if a train would even be better'

[tall plover]

Can anyone help me with Block Signals for Trains? I dont know how to get the signals to work for certain parts only