satisfactory

[dense violet]

Eh, regular fuel works too.

though plutnonium rods are amazing for it

[boreal musk]

you can also run drones by liquid biofuel if you want

[ashen spruce]

Not across the map

[dense violet]

... I .. don't think you can?

[ashen spruce]

Stacks are too small

[dense violet]

LBF isn't on the list on the wiki in any case

[ashen spruce]

You can pretty sure.

I'm unsure.

[dense violet]

basic fuel can get you across the map last I checked, diagonally even

[ashen spruce]

Wut

Last time I tried it was 140/min ish per trip

[radiant swallow]

i mean if i need to transport like 50 items/min i think the drone will do just fine

[ashen spruce]

Might've been a display bug then ig

[ashen spruce]

Yea

[dense violet]

rough volume of ppm for drones #math-and-meta message

[ashen spruce]

But for important things (big NPP for example), to ship uranium is too unreliable

[dense violet]

this was before there were different speeds available per fuel though so there'll be variance

[radiant swallow]

i will be feeding them rocket fuel, so i think i'll do just fine

[dense violet]

yeah that's pricey on bauxite. Never liked Rf for anything but jetpacks

[radiant swallow]

meh. i got those 1600 ingots/minute and i might as well use them

[reef wedge]

Zoobing is a thing

[radiant swallow]

even went the extra mile of shipping in silica

[reef wedge]

Anyone try it on controller? I don’t know if it’s a thing

[radiant swallow]

zoobing?

[dense violet]

... do you mean zooping?

[reef wedge]

Zooping

Ya

[radiant swallow]

what is that

[dense violet]

well it's a build mode. Look at whatever the button for changing modes is

[dense violet]

when you build multiple foundations or walls in one go in a line

[reef wedge]

I see it hehe

Ty

[left arrow]

Just had a good laugh at this amazing bug. #screenshots message

That's a sideways regular splitter, a sideways conveyor lift, and the items in the lift get rendered as a sideways belt.

[wicked nacelle]

can you change the number of autosave files before it reuses them?

[radiant swallow]

oh... just building more foundations or walls at once... i know about that yeah

[willow oar]

Are we supposed to have our foundries outdoor?

The fume going next level is a real pain on my building design, I can't put foundry and other building together dur to the fume forcing me to use more vertical space that I want

[dense violet]

Entirely up to you. I've never cared about the smoke for example

it's a messy factory floor. Smoke gonna smoke

[valid sonnet]

i dunno

[left arrow]

I tend to keep foundries and smelters in one place to keep the smoke away from the rest of the factory, and also make the ceiling on my ground floor high.

[willow oar]

Im trying to build smaller, as I am not a good artist, I realized the bigger the building, the more hideous it became

[dense violet]

yup. Overclocking is your friend there. As well as making multiple structures at different angles to each other

[left arrow]

The bigger a flat wall gets, the uglier it looks. But often, turning a small factory into an imposing monument makes it feel intentional.

[willow oar]

My first vertical factory was a cube designer MK2 sized... I had a few things but we'll, hideous.

That's also the last tile I tried to blueprint multiples floors / a whole level

But I was still happy from his it looked inside

I was only making wires, but I needed a lot, and wanted an easy goal

About to finish my HMF factory, and it feels so small...

[spring trail]

idk how to get to this quartz vein

[silk ocean]

Silica? xD

North desert 😉

You can do it if you Ficsit it xD

[silver skiff]

i gotta figure out how to to tractors

[full perch]

Hey beginner here,any essential thing to buy from sink shop

[silk ocean]

One path each way, or they bump 😉

[silk ocean]

Everything 😉

[boreal musk]

yeah that part was my mistake, my memory has failed me

[willow glen]

it’s all optional, but ladders help a lot early game. Walkways too so you don’t need 4m ramps everywhere

[silk ocean]

Trains, you love trains xD

And Smart Splitters they are life

[willow glen]

Yup I do! I wish they were more capable logic wise, but as far as carrying capacity they can’t be beat!

same with splitters, lack of logic limits their usefulness. I basically just use overflow

[dense violet]

it happens 🙂

[silk ocean]

Overflow everything xD

[dense violet]

that's part of the logistical problem solving

you gotta design layouts, groupings, and clockings to manage the flow as you like

[flint grail]

Can I extend an elevator or do I have to rebuild it?

[dense violet]

extend to a point

[tall plover]

spaghetti is the answer to everything

[daring stag]

I underestimated the hover pack for loops/drives/slugs/sphere hunting. just put these lines on the ground and scan the biome from A to Z

also you are out of reach of all enemies forever

[dense violet]

blade runners and jetpack is much faster mind you

[tall plover]

so slow tho

Jetpack my beloved

[daring stag]

yeah it's slow but it's methodical. I put a radar tower in a region. then I circle the outer ring, then in a spiral toward the center

until I have almost everything looted

blade runner and jetpack is insanely faster but you have to touch ground constantly to reload and big cliffs are still annoying

ofc I could look at scim map and loot everything without exploring... but that's not fun is it

[half scaffold]

Only if you like oxygen

[half scaffold]

If you tap rapidly you can make it up almost any cliff. I think I found ONE that didn't have a point where I could stop and rest, and I think I only needed it once.

Granted, I haven't explored the North Eastern part of the map yet

[daring stag]

yeah I know the tapping technique and I'm using turbo fuel but I still have to build foundation every x meters to reload fuel

maybe I'm tapping wrong /shrug

with hoverpack on the other hand it's cheated

[half scaffold]

I'm using Liquid Biofuel, I can go up approx 35m on 1/3 tank

So 90-100m on a full

-ish 😛

I'm actually, just about to go build turbo fuel 🙂

Hopefully rocket fuel to come shortly after.

[daring stag]

yeah I've heard liquid biofuel has more durability than turbo fuel but is slower acceleration, I didn't test tho

I want max acceleration for combat

[half scaffold]

Uranium... Looks like it's only direct use is to put into Encased Uranium Cells.
Those then go into Fuel Rods and Nobelisks.
Can you use the Fuel Rods for Drones? Or ONLY Nuke reactors?

And how in the hell can the creatures survive a nuke nobelisk?! Even the non-iradiated ones!

[smoky forge]

yes drones

[daring stag]

I use homing ammo for everything, nobelisk is just clunky to me. still great for deforesting

[smoky forge]

and there is an alternate recepie

[half scaffold]

I use the alt recipe for the encased cells

[smoky forge]

i use nobelisks very much, one good placed cluster nobelisk and 90% of mobs are oneshot

[half scaffold]

I use homing for most. The normal Rifle Ammo kills faster. I use it for the hatchers all the time.

I'm about to make some of the turbo rifle ammo though

[daring stag]

homing is nice you don't have to aim. especially good against bees or stingers

turbo was disappointing and used it only once

[smoky forge]

then there is the mod server where one smal nobelisks acts like a nuke, clearing terrain in a 100m radius

[half scaffold]

I'm actually pretty good with the aiming, sniper by nature 😛

[smoky forge]

and ofc. oneshoting everything

[half scaffold]

I haven't tried the cluster bombs.

[daring stag]

homing also allows to sometime kill green stingers from so far away they don't even engage

[half scaffold]

There are a couple spots where I bring in like 5 hogs a couple spitters and 4-5 stingers. I sit up on a cliff and they kill half of each other and I just pick off what's left. I tried to nuke them but wasn't worth it

[daring stag]

yeah lol that's pretty funny when they kill each other. stingers usually win

[half scaffold]

I found a group of 6 hogs that had at least a dozen spider bodies laying around them

Mostly small ones

I was like "Thank you for the DNA!"

[daring stag]

true small ones are easy for them but the jumping ones are a menace to normal hogs. I need to bait a stinger to come near a nuke hog to see a battle of the ages

[sterile blade]

Nice to keep you up in the air for long after you've launched yourself from a hypertube cannon or something similar ^^

[daring stag]

yeah canon + jetpack tapping is insane probably the best ingame to move from place to place

I still didn't understand how to make perfect canon so I just half ass them

they work good enough to go from grassy plains to rocky desert

[sterile blade]

I've always stuck to "classic" accelerators simply employing many consecutive entrances. No "loop" shenanigans ^^

[daring stag]

same I don't know the loop thing just heard about it

[sterile blade]

One of my favorites (and laziest) was an accelerator with a relatively long tube at the end (~20m), so I could angle the tube before lunch to decide where to go and avoid having to connect places with tubes all the way 😅

[sterile blade]

Just make then bigger rather than smaller. You can always decide to skip some entrances when jumping in, if you're familiar with the speed they give you (eg: 10 entrances for medium journeys, 14 entrances for long journeys...)

[half scaffold]

I haven't tried one yet.

[daring stag]

you really should, it's insane to go from base to base. much faster than even train

[vernal skiff]

This game is too overwhelming I’m uninstalling

[sterile blade]

Arguably cooler too xD

[half scaffold]

I prob should, I'm constantly getting distracted looking for spheres, sloops, slugs or picking up random stuff I missed before

[daring stag]

just do it step by step

[sterile blade]

Did you rush progress a lot?

[vernal skiff]

No I have good power but seeing what people build and how far I have to go is overwhelming

[glossy trail]

Hey so Im trying to understand trains but I still have no idea how signals work. Any other videos or resources to help me out? have watched a couple but still lost lol

[half scaffold]

I hear you, I keep getting decision paralysis. I want to go build a turbo fuel factory, but I need to finish my aluminium, but I need to work on the track for that, etc, etc ,etc

[sterile blade]

That's not wasted time
Gotta catch them all!

[daring stag]

people building ultra cool factories have hundreds or more likely thousands of hours and it is not at all required to finish the game, actually you will finish the game slower with such builds

[half scaffold]

Games like this are a nightmare for someone with OCD and addictive collection tendancies. Pokemon gave me panic attacks

[left arrow]

I'm running out of nearby places to explore for hard drives, and I don't know which biomes are safer... But the swamp definitely wasn't 😄

[sterile blade]

Ah, the good old issue of confronting yourself with others
Do note that #screenshots don't come with info on how much time and sanity someone may have invested in what they are showing 😉

[sterile blade]

The red forest is really nice

[half scaffold]

I'm 350hrs and just unlocked nuclear power

[daring stag]

look at this shitty looking factory I made in 30 minutes yesterday, it produces tier 8 items #screenshots message

[left arrow]

618 hours and don't even have aluminium ^^

[half scaffold]

Yup, looks like shit... (smack!)

[daring stag]

could be even faster without the walls

but it gets messy like in my other base

[sterile blade]

The most fun production chain in the game, IMO ☢️

[daring stag]

too bad it's not needed to complete the game and have 100% achievement if I'm not mistaken

[vast salmon]

how do i split 4 miners into 3 conveyer belts evenly (One of the miners produce 240 while the rest do 120)

[sterile blade]

Trying to find the line between "decor" and "actually useful decor"?

[half scaffold]

Merge them together into a single line, then into a spilitter with the 3 outputs

That will give you 3 equal outputs lines

[daring stag]

well you could say big rectangular factories have form and function

[vast salmon]

i only have mk3 belts thats the issue

[left arrow]

Split into twice as many lines as you need, then merge them two by two. Or something like that.

[dense violet]

process each miner individually and merge the output as needed

[left arrow]

Or just split the one miner that's different in 3, and merge each output with another miner

[vast salmon]

ill try that

[half scaffold]

I made a concrete factory, and a "bio processing" factory for my biofuel. Loaded up an industrial container forever ago and it's still running.

[left arrow]

I started my current file in the Northern Forest. I have started sinking solid biofuel because I had more than a container x)

[sterile blade]

Ngl, I think I've yet to "graduate" from rectangular factories... 😅
I might be able to make some relatively nice stuff, but it's still just fancy rectangles (example stacked rectangles: #screenshots message)

[daring stag]

rectangular factories with a single floor are the best ratio of time consuming/organisation imo

[sterile blade]

Doing more complex buildings (without losing functionality) requires a level of creativity that I don't have yet, I feel...

[left arrow]

Well, at the moment I'm working on a big factory that's slightly less rectangular...

#design-and-architecture message

[vast salmon]

just found out my plant was farther from the nodes i was trying to hook up than expected xd, the closest easiest ones are 2 240/m and 1 120/m

[sterile blade]

Mhh... I partially agree, but I think having a "logistic floor" of sorts can help a lot too. As long as organization is easy to achieve, it can pay off in the long run as one spends less time finding stuff and thinking about layouts overall

[half scaffold]

I've gotten good with a main floor and a logistics floor under

[sterile blade]

Look at how many sides that shape has!

[half scaffold]

Just dropped my concrete factory in screenshots

[daring stag]

yeah my logistic floor is just the small part at the entrance of the rectangle, not under it technically #screenshots message

[vast salmon]

nice nice

[half scaffold]

My bio facility is similar, bottom floor has a constructor for each bio (Leaves, Wood, Mycelia, Protien) all slooped, and above is 4x more to convert to solid biofuel, all slooped

[vast salmon]

dont you guys hate that feeling when you travel across the map to only realise you didnt bring enough resources?

[daring stag]

alien depot 👍

mvp feature in this game

[green fiber]

To-Do list helps too

[left arrow]

The idea was to make sure upper floors wouldn't clip with tree leaves, and to keep each "arm" of my factory an odd number of foundations wide.
(so I can walk down the middle)

[vast salmon]

not for belts lol

im talking abt the todo list thing btw

[left arrow]

I try to automate ingredients needed for belt as soon as possible so I can't run out.

[vast salmon]

i have that i just usually bring too little xd

[left arrow]

...well, might I suggest investing in Alien Technologies ^^

[sterile blade]

Things like "wanting an odd number of foundations" and "wanting it simmetrical" and stuff like "should I use 1, 3 or 5 foundations in the middle" can really paralize me at the start of a project

[left arrow]

^ I just went with the space available. Though I did have to cheat a bit because the place I wanted to turn into an iron smeltery was 10 foundations wide.

[vast salmon]

dont have enough mercer spheres yet :\

[left arrow]

I made it 11 but only for the bottom floor since upper floors would clip through leaves.

And I can make the upper floors 11 wide by putting an overhang on the other side of the building ^^

[sterile blade]

It's nice when limitations take away some possibilities, so you have an easier time actually choosing
||Ofc, you won't be cursing the map for limiting you all the whole, though...||

[left arrow]

I feel that. Northern Forest has been a blessing and a curse in that regard.

So little space, but also, so many resources in one place it's overwhelming

[silver skiff]

oh my god i didnt know that the smart splitters were a research thing lmao

[vast salmon]

at first same tbh

[sterile blade]

And they're all so pure!
Really makes all other places seem devoid of resources in comparison, spoiling us with that insane resource density and variety

[left arrow]

I could smelt 2880 iron ingots per minute, and that'll bump to 3600 once I get better belts. Thinking about it scares me.

What on earth am I going to do with all that x)

[sterile blade]

I love that the answer to that can change a lot depending on what alt recipes you have aviable (thus how much you explored)

[left arrow]

I have enough alt recipes that I can make a lot with just iron.

[vast salmon]

THE FACTORY MUST GROW

/j

[left arrow]

Every time I see that phrase I want to repaste it in zalgo text, but that might anger the bots.

[sterile blade]

Is this a [censored] reference?

[left arrow]

I think my next project will be to make tiny factories on impure nodes of every kind just to ensure I always have some of every item stored.

[vast salmon]

nice

[daring stag]

drones for delivering raw quartz: bad idea right?

[left arrow]

My main factory is just getting too big for me to worry about keeping some of every item in it x)

[fresh marlin]

What space elevator tier?

[left arrow]

I just finished Phase 3.

And had everything I could unlock in the MAM unlocked long before.

[fresh marlin]

I prob spelled wrong

Didn i

Btw what was 1.1 upd

[dense violet]

... why would it be bad?

[daring stag]

low payload

[dense violet]

so? use a couple drones

[daring stag]

I guess I can try

[dense violet]

drones excel for transportation in terrible terrain or on paths that you aren't going to do a lot of other movement

so for example, if you were planning on moving a bunch of stuff in that area by train? a few station? trains are agood idea

[daring stag]

problem is I need quartz to build connectors to build drones

yeah I'll make a station I have my rail network nearby

[dense violet]

oh well then use what trains excell at, reused infrastructure 😛

[daring stag]

damn it's in the mountainous part

well let's figure it out

[dense violet]

sounds like drone time 😛

or ... use one of the many other quartz nodes?

[daring stag]

maybe I should buy connectors with tickets

and make drones so they bring quartz

[left arrow]

I suppose it's all a matter of perspective and where you need it to be, but there's places with way too much quartz for drones to be a good idea to me x)

[dense violet]

could jsut mine some crystal too. I'm surprised you don't have them automated at the drone stage yet

[left arrow]

(take that with a grain of salt, I only know what drones are from other people's words, haven't quite unlocked them myself)

[sage crypt]

i love my 3 dogs sevo leftee and bobby, they bring me joy and whimsy while i happily pollute the planet

[daring stag]

since I invested like 5 or 6 hours in understanding how to make trains and make them work with signals

[left arrow]

Quartz are completely optional until phase 4.

[left arrow]

You mean, what did 1.1 change? A lot of tiny things, but some of the bigger ones are:

1. Belts an pipes on a blueprint can auto-connect.
2. You can put a splitter/merger on a conveyor lift to make it vertical (though it's quite finicky at the moment)
3. You can now nudge buildings by any amount and even up and down.
   There's more detailed changelogs on Steam and probably even on this discord.

[fresh marlin]

Nice

Me nudging my building to space

[left arrow]

I mapped nudge up/down to buttons on my mouse because I use it all the time ^^

That and copy-paste.

[rugged shard]

Hi friends! Me and my friends are gonna start a blind coop together

So I hear there are dedicated servers but I’m not 100% if that’s exactly clear on what that means

Let’s say I make the server, can my friends connect to the server and play the game while I’m offline?

[reef basin]

dedicated server is a software that you can run on any pc (or server), and as long as it is running, the game can be joined

[rugged shard]

So let’s say my pc isn’t running

They can’t connect?

And do I have to personally manually turn the server on or can my friends do it remotely from their own computers

[daring stag]

they can do it remotely, ssh etc

[reef basin]

but that still needs the PC to be running

[daring stag]

you need some network skills but nothing very hard

you can power up the pc from afar

[reef basin]

not via ssh

[daring stag]

via vpn say, to a raspi always on, then the raspi sends wakeonlan on the network

then via ssh you turn the server on

that's just one basic way

[rugged shard]

So I don’t know what those fancy words mean but hopefully by the end of this I’ll have learnt 🥲

[daring stag]

you could program a webapp that would boot your computer and your server, with credentials, but that's getting work-y

[last mason]

Hello y'all! New here, call me hiro. I'm not exactly sure what this server is about, found it through a nametag from a friend!
Hope I'll make new friendos here!

[rugged shard]

Is it complicated from my friends end? Idm doing the bulk of the technical stuff on server hosting but idk if my friends are up for it

[daring stag]

I mean if you have no knowledge of development it will be hard. I'm just saying it's possible to do what you say

[rugged shard]

Ok ignore the pc being off or on problem

[daring stag]

if one of your friend is a developer he can set up with help of chatgpt

[rugged shard]

Is it easy for them to turn on the servers remotely. Assuming my pc is on

Or are the servers on like indefinitely

[daring stag]

yes via ssh would be the easiest (behind a vpn preferably), wireguard host on your pc

[reef basin]

it's about a factory building/exploration game named Satisfactory

[daring stag]

then one they are on your network they boot serv via ssh

all this can be automated in one button but again it needs dev skills

[rugged shard]

I can program and have experience in c# and stuff but never worked with networks before

[rugged shard]

I’m guessing no one has made any apps that automate the process right 😭

[reef basin]

basically your options are:

• have one device at home running 24/7, run dedi server on it
• rent a device that runs 24/7, run dedi server on it
• rent a hosting service that hosts the server for you
• host the save locally and when you finish playing, send the save to friends and whoever plays next hosts the save

[daring stag]

me neither, chatgpt helped me for the network stuff. I have setup basically what you're saying. say I'm far away from home, I can boot my pc from anywhere in the world and play remotely to any game or do anything

[last mason]

Sounds interesting ^^

[rugged shard]

Ah ok. So either first or last option

[dense violet]

if you like sand box games and logistical problem solving, it's probalby right up your alley

[flint grail]

I don't know if I should make my elevator realistic or not, as in should I cover it with walls expect for where the stops are or leave it open

[dense violet]

build yoru factory around it then decide. Not like having walls around it will take up much space

[flint grail]

It's for a storage warehouse, and it's at 2 floors right now with roof access

[silk ocean]

Walls take time xD

[rugged shard]

Do you recommend the first or last option more (considering that we will just pick whoever uses their pc the most for the desk server)

[reef basin]

all the options are fine imo

[flint grail]

Also, is there lore as to why the factory cart has a siren and not a horn?

[dense violet]

the ai that designed it probably thought it was funnier that way

[silk ocean]

As Gandalf says (prob doesn't) One does not Horn, Follow your Siren

[dense violet]

bot missunderstood the term 'horny' and thought having one on the cart would cause HR issues

[copper pine]

a question for everyone how dou you guys balance how much stuff you wants to produce like I prefer to make lets say 50 copper sheets a sec wich is perefect enough but I like to make a bit more for my self like 60

[reef basin]

not sure what is there to "balance", but yes, I decide how much I want before I build my factory

[copper pine]

do you go just enough or a bit more

[reef basin]

I decide how much I want, and build that much

[dense violet]

Until you're making a dedicated factory with a large output , just wing it. Make stuff as you go

[copper pine]

alr

[dense violet]

imo, either the game is over for you after phase 5 or you'll treat it like a sandbox.

either way you can just make stuff to break through the tiers and get it done ,or whatever you make now won't suit any grand post phase 5 plan in your sand box world.

so wing it

[copper pine]

yea I have a big problem I wanna play satisfactory but I dont like smh abt the aluminium and other complicated recepies I dont mind making them its just I dont know where to build a factory and yea

[flint grail]

Ye, you become God basically when you get to phase 5

[dense violet]

practice. Also aluminium is easy to solve. Post what you're trying to do in #math-and-meta and I can show you how to make it trivial

[copper pine]

well you see thats not the issue its just the fact I COULD redo everything again just makes my motivation drop to zero

[dense violet]

oh just plod forward. Every time you build a factory you'll get better.

and after you unlock everything you can really plan out factories nicely

[copper pine]

also idk how to make a factory or to be more precise I dont know how to use space I would like to cramp it and make it look good but it never works it either very big but ok looking or very cramped and ugly

[dense violet]

that's mostly planning and practice :\ you can always create a plan in satisfactory tools, scout out a location, and ask in #design-and-architecture ?

lots of design videos are helpful too

[copper pine]

oh alr imma check it out thx and cya

[flint grail]

You also wouldn't be the first person who has rebuilt everything

-# There's literally a review about someone doing that that became a meme

[copper pine]

I just hate turbo motors and radio con units they are my least fun to make but saddly very usefull

[flint grail]

Lol, just wait until you start producing fused modular frames

[copper pine]

I have but tbh they aint that bad just nitrogen and some mod frames but yea not my fav either

[hard ivy]

I feel like FMFs are one of the easier adv alu items

[copper pine]

true

[hard ivy]

Though Turbo Motors with the electric alt aren't that hard either

But they do take RCUs as an ingredient

[copper pine]

wich alt I havent played it a while

[hard ivy]

Turbo electric motor

[copper pine]

a imma check it

[hard ivy]

Pairs well with electric motor

Or default motor, that works well too

[copper pine]

is it that better I use the org one

[silk ocean]

Note to self - get hard drives xD

[copper pine]

tbh every time I got bored it satisfactory I would just go on a hunt for hard drives, sphere and somersloops

[silk ocean]

I hunted for sloops xD

[copper pine]

I hunt for everything just to be safe that I have everything

[calm thorn]

after completing phase 2 do i still need to produce smart plates and automated wiring since i don't need those for phase 3

[boreal musk]

you need those to make space part phase 3

[hard ivy]

Check the ingredients of the new parts :)

[half scaffold]

@boreal musk STARTER base?! I think that's bigger than all mine put together right now!

[boreal musk]

yep starter base, my future base will be bigger when i unlock mk6 belt

[silk ocean]

Starter Base is the big base. The Shopping Mall xD

[half scaffold]

There's an mk6? I thought 5 was highest

[silk ocean]

There is 6 xD

[daring stag]

by posting this screenshot I could notice that 2 quartz got into the bauxite belt and were shutting down one line lol https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397872376657481800/Screenshot_20250724-112409.png?ex=68834d99&is=6881fc19&hm=22470ee2973380190b416fcb4e6febd68ebed5ba018e0decb285fb0094b295d7&

[vast salmon]

bro ;-;

[calm thorn]

ah damn ahaahah ty

[fathom shuttle]

Just aluminum and fuel

Nitric acid too but that’s pretty easy

[daring stag]

somerslooped slug shard factory, if only I did it sooner

60 shards per minute at full capacity

[full perch]

Does clipping affect its function?or just appearance turn ugly

[daring stag]

it's just esthetic

I clip almost everything without much care

game would be insanely harder if you couldn't

[hard ivy]

clipping a signal placed on one rail into a different rail is probably a bad idea though

But yeah, I'm pretty sure signals are the only things that care about hitboxes

Everything else, if you can clip it, it'll work fine

[daring stag]

I've setup so many trains now I'm not even sure what they're doing

hope it will just continue working

[radiant swallow]

can i provide bottled rocket fuel to a drone port and it will automatically use it as fuel when provided by another drone?

[hard ivy]

You have to put it in the fuel input port

[radiant swallow]

ugh

so eeevery single drone port needs it's own fuel drone port...

[fathom shuttle]

I’m minutes away from unlocking and making nukes

[fathom shuttle]

Just one

[hard ivy]

Splitters exist

[fathom shuttle]

If you have 1 that receives fuel, and a drone that whose port doesn’t have fuel lands it will pick up fuel from there

[green fiber]

You just need enough capacity to belt it into their inputs

Only one of the drone ports that a drone travels between needs fuel

[half scaffold]

Not EVERY ONE. I only have the loaded at the "home port". The other ones don't need fuel as long as it gets enough from the home port for a round trip

[radiant swallow]

well that is at least one thing

so i only need to provide key drone ports with fuel

which i will use a drone port for

[fathom shuttle]

Yes just one

[half scaffold]

I haven't messed with the drones TOO much, but that much I figured out 🙂

[green fiber]

Drone brings in fuel in cargo
Cargo gets belted out and distributed
done

[half scaffold]

Right now I just have one making flights for uranium, and another for crystal

[radiant swallow]

i don't know where i will be setting up my main drone port yet, it probably wont be at my home base

[fathom shuttle]

Just name your drones with the item, through put, and if it’s pick up or drop off
So a drone picking up 300/min aluminum casing would be named something like this
“300 Al CASING PU”

[radiant swallow]

yeah don't worry, i know logistics enough. i will just use drones for smaller items and will use my train network for the rest

[fathom shuttle]

You want to bring the items to where you want them, it kind of defeats the purpose of drones since they’re supposed to make low throughput item transport over long distances easy

[radiant swallow]

yes

you know, like crafting all the important space elevator stuff in the desert and shipping them in via drones :p

i don't have any space at my home base anymore

[fathom shuttle]

Also the throughput drones can handle is dependent on stack size
So you can easily push 1200/min concrete on a single drone
But you can’t do the same if it’s a stack size of 100

[radiant swallow]

and i don't feel like ripping it apart

i already have a train network up and running with double-tracks for bi-directional trains so i don't feel any worry about setting up bases somewhere else

i wanted to use the drones mainly to transport fuel and important parts like space elevator parts

i am skipping nuclear fuel anyway so i don't need many drones anyway

[fathom shuttle]

Drones are very useful still even if you have trains

I have around 80 drones running in my world right now lol

[radiant swallow]

i just set up a giant fuel refinery the last couple of ours

im finally getting to the point of "oh yeah, i could build some stuff now"

[fathom shuttle]

Accidentally started scanning a hard drives when I was about to unlock nukes

Only 3 minutes left but the wait is killing me lol I want to build things up

[worthy junco]

Thanks for the reminder been running around with 3 harddrives in my pockets lol

[fathom shuttle]

It’s time

[worthy junco]

Time for nukkkees

When do i get the darn jetpack lol. Been very slowly building a flat area to build but damn walking is slow

[hard ivy]

Tier 5 iirc

Make sure you use packaged liquid biofuel with it

At least until later

[worthy junco]

Im barely in tier 3 lol

[daring stag]

wait geothermal generator is prettt good

no management just plop it

[hard ivy]

Well, the power is miniscule (at least to me) and the fluctuations are annoying

[daring stag]

yes it's low for end game for sure

but compared to coal

[hard ivy]

If you find the parts to unlock and build some, they're pretty good.

But if you have all the ingredients automated, they're meh

[worthy junco]

What three items would be the best to shove in the dimensional depot first? im thinking Concrecte + iron plates and then one for handfeeding?

[calm thorn]

how do i unluck geothermal power?

[shy mulch]

whatever you use most of when building

[hard ivy]

Mam caterium tree

[worthy junco]

So far that has been alot of concrete

[hard ivy]

I feel like uploading concrete without upgrades is pretty useless. You'll have to grab stacks of it anyway.

I'd choose something that can be mostly or entirely supplied by the depot

Belt materials, cables, rods

[shy mulch]

then that, and probably whatever you use for belts

[south sinew]

Concrete is very useful even in small amounts because it means you can explore without needing to resupply and keep building foundations and whatnot for access

that's why I'd suggest concrete, iron plate, and iron rod (for ladders)

[hard ivy]

Fair. For exploration, concrete upload can be useful.

But I'd still just grab a few stacks before leaving

[south sinew]

if you only have three DDs, then probably the first goal should be to get more spheres

so the ones for exploring seem the most useful

[hard ivy]

To me, the value of early game depot is not having to grab a certain item from storage. At all. If I have to go to storage anyway, I might as well use the sphere for something else

[south sinew]

I sort of agree, that's why I think the exploration-related items are most useful, because going back to storage from half way across the map is the most painful

[keen hawk]

chat, found a drop pod that needs a superposition oscillator, how do i unlock that?

[south sinew]

it's in Tier 9

so you can't get that until the very end of the game

[keen hawk]

well

[south sinew]

unless you find one at another crash site

[keen hawk]

isnt that great
what about cooling systems

are those endgame too

[south sinew]

they're in Tier 8 I think, but you can find some cooling systems at other crash sites I'm moderately sure

[shy mulch]

cooling systems you can get from lizard doggos

[keen hawk]

can lizard doggos give me these uhh

superposition thingies

[fluid sapphire]

its random and unreliable

[shy mulch]

no they dont give superposition oscillators unfortunately

[hard ivy]

You can't find a superposition oscillators. It's the only pod you can't unlock early

[shy mulch]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Lizard_Doggo
List of things they can give you are here

[lean ferry]

what if a lizard doggo brings me uranium

oh btw is nitro rocket fuel actually good? im next to 2 coal nodes 2 sulfur nodes, alot of oil and im shipping in my empty tanks

[south sinew]

yes

[lean ferry]

sois it worth it to do nitro or just normal rocket fuel

[south sinew]

nitro is generally better I think

[shrewd hatch]

why everytime I open up the build menu, my game freezes for a split second

[fluid sapphire]

nitro is simpler but more expensive in terms of sulfur, personally i think there is easily enough sulfur on the map for anything i could want so i dont really care, so i decided to go ham with nitro
#screenshots message

its very straightforward, only 3 steps

[keen hawk]

i miss rocket fuel, now that i started a new save
the loop of compacted coal was so convenient

currently my turbo fuel gen is capped by my production of c.coal

[lean ferry]

I just realised how much oil im wasting

[ashen spruce]

More is the solution

[lean ferry]

i put a single extractor for like 120 without using diluted packaged

meh it was my first playthrough anyway

[keen hawk]

might need mk5 belts before that...

my train cars only fill up so fast

[ashen spruce]

Then unlock

Is not that deep.

[fluid sapphire]

its not really worth going big on anything before mk5 belts (i think)

[lean ferry]

m o r e t r a i n

I like tren make tren empire

[fathom shuttle]

I forgor to bring the PCC for the fuel rods

[keen hawk]

i just unlocked trains

might be a bit far from automated bauxite processing

[lean ferry]

ok I thought u were a higher tier mb

are u using mk3 or mk4 belts

[ashen spruce]

You're right!
Here is your reward: || ||

[fathom shuttle]

I wish we could use iron to make concrete

So you can do all iron HMF

[keen hawk]

currently mk3
cant spare the encased bars yet

havent even unlocked assemblers, but i do have a lot of coal and sulfur in the desert

[ashen spruce]

Limestone is the most abundant resource pretty sure.

[lean ferry]

tf?

[fathom shuttle]

It’s pretty annoying to manage tho

[lean ferry]

you are in tier 6 and not got assembler?

[ashen spruce]

70000/min almost on the map

[fluid sapphire]

hell yeah i would do that just for the memes

[keen hawk]

its my last priority

[daring stag]

packager and unpackager minigame that unlocks when you start going full train

[keen hawk]

i havent even automated oil stuff yet

[lean ferry]

oh fairs r u tier skipping

[ashen spruce]

You, uhh, can't complete Phase 1 without assemblers.

Smart Plating

[keen hawk]

i meant

manufacturers

[lean ferry]

makes more sense

[ashen spruce]

Ahh

Manus are fat for no reason

[lean ferry]

btw did you start in the forest? its much easier to go to bottom right of map

[keen hawk]

oh neat

[lean ferry]

4 coal node 3 sulfur nodes 6 oil nodes

its peak

[keen hawk]

i found recycled rubber, plastic and diluted fuel now

all i need is hor alt

[lean ferry]

same

I also need diluted fuel (like not packaged)

[keen hawk]

u mean blue crater? that was my megafactory last save

gonna try central map this time, just outside of red forest

[lean ferry]

thats good ur next to bauxite

[keen hawk]

i started in the desert this time

convenient until i need oil and bauxite

[ashen spruce]

Blue Crater is best for Fuel Plants

2550/min crude

[keen hawk]

i had 2 sites, the coast and blue crater

[ashen spruce]

Spire Coast has stuff which is good for a Nuclear Plant

[keen hawk]

i didnt even process 1000/m crude before i finished phase 4

i was consuming like 600 rubber/min, but atp its a drop in the bucket

[ashen spruce]

Spire Coast it is for oil and bauxite is red forest or swamps has one I think

[keen hawk]

spire coast is the uhh

[ashen spruce]

Most northern part

[keen hawk]

easternmost part? beside the swamp? i went upwards to the north, west of the desert

[ashen spruce]

Middle

[keen hawk]

ah yea im there rn

[ashen spruce]

Easternmost is Swamps

[keen hawk]

ive finished my frames for the elevator, but havent started modular or the ASU yet

[lean ferry]

i feel very proud

I spent like nearly 4 hours and my supercomputer factory was finished yesterday

[ashen spruce]

You mean Plating and ACU ig?

[lean ferry]

im now making in total 6rcu and 4sc (I slooped them theres 100 sloops on map it ok)

[keen hawk]

?
i meant the modular engines and the control units

[ashen spruce]

rcu?

[keen hawk]

whatever they might be called

[ashen spruce]

Oh I forgot

[lean ferry]

radio control units

its morning im lazy sorry

[ashen spruce]

You are Phase 3

[keen hawk]

yes

[ashen spruce]

I thought P2

[lean ferry]

anyways now I am making 120 packaged rocket fuel for my drones (I believe that can power like 40 of them?), and then using that make fused frame factory

and with that I can do turbo motors and cooling system (or should I get pressure motors??

[keen hawk]

whichever one helps you sleep at night without seeing yellow on your machines

[lean ferry]

I mean I do have like 5 motors automated, fused is easy to automate cuz im next to nitrogen aswell I can ship in bauxite

im alr making 6 rcu (I dont need that much for personal use)

[limber mulch]

Hi folks, I'm a little baffled by the chainsaw. I've got Packaged Fuel and Packaged Biofuel in my inventory, but my chainsaw is out of gas for some reason. What am I missing?

[fluid sapphire]

can only use solid biofuel

[south sinew]

chainsaw can only use solid fuel

[limber mulch]

Ahhhh thank you both!

[keen hawk]

im lookling at my planner, i need to expand my plans slowly as my current power grid can barely handle 1/3 of the production demands, which is not a good sign...

gotta do this incrementally

[fallen moss]

Start a new world with a friend
Find lizard doggo very early snd tame him
10 minutes later he brings me a fucking nuclear bomb
10/10 no notes

[daring stag]

can't you tell satisfactory tools to use power shards or sloops?

[fluid sapphire]

no, its up to you how you build your line

[lean ferry]

its simple tho

lets say u want 2 of something

[fluid sapphire]

there are too many ways to clock machines

[daring stag]

would be simpler if it calculate for me

[lean ferry]

forgot bout that

u have to do it manually

[keen hawk]

ah heck

[daring stag]

telling me to build 35 refinery for 3 supercomputer per minute seems funny

[lean ferry]

if u wana overclock whole system just tiems by 2.5x

[lean ferry]

yo what

oh no tis not wrong

[keen hawk]

i have 2 trains running and if they start accelerating at the same time, they consume 10% of my power grid just accelerating

[lean ferry]

I made supercomputer factory u do need like ALOT of them

[daring stag]

check that https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/456117300446232578/1397906814544117791/534C7D99-5B4C-4F1A-9438-A1FBD5CE35B2.png?ex=68836dac&is=68821c2c&hm=3f0e52f1363b8e31aaf10d22d95a4046c6768c62cfe31dfe1fd33e0784740871&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

that is some crazy stuff lol

[fluid sapphire]

i mean if you have the whole chain for it then yeah obviously you will need a lot of machines

[daring stag]

yeah I build a whole chain from scratch for the end game items now

just simpler somehow

[fluid sapphire]

ok agree to disagree 😃

[daring stag]

well with power shards that will cut a lot of buildings

[lean ferry]

where tf does blender come from

[daring stag]

diluted fuel

[lean ferry]

I made my sc factory WAY smaller using fused quickwire and recycled plastic

[lean ferry]

oh yh fairs

[fluid sapphire]

control system dev - tier 7

ah

[lean ferry]

no like why would u need for supercomputers

im tier 8

[daring stag]

I think having almost all alternate recipes make satisfactory tool suggest the most insane pipelines

let me see with 0 alternate recipe

[fluid sapphire]

whats the actual production chain look like? must be nuts

[cedar portal]

I like to build modular factories that make one product then ship it by train/drone wherever it needs. That way when I need more of something I just add another floor, or another factory. makes it easy to switch what I'm making as I mess around too.

[daring stag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/456117300446232578/1397907876562997258/image.png?ex=68836ea9&is=68821d29&hm=013d8ad49b9b3911bd0b0526a1b7a61e87f295c0d88395b6688c75fad118a2c1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1864&height=603

[fluid sapphire]

also importantly, smaller things are much easier to actually finish

[lean ferry]

uhh mines just looks like some constructor spam, bunch of refineries and pipeline sphagetti out of nowhere and just a slab of manufacturers at the end

[daring stag]

actually it's worse without alternate recipe, like 48 constructor

only 11 constructor with alternate

[lean ferry]

mines was like 40 constructor for 2 and 15 refineries

[fluid sapphire]

thats a massive yikes for me

[cedar portal]

I also have a massive mega factory at my starter location that now mostly sits idle after I moved to satelite factories. But i can't tear it down, too big and toonostalgic, plus makes a nice mall to make all the things

[daring stag]

well it's optimized to have 0 waste that's why it's clunky

it should be able to take sinker into account to simplify stuff

[lean ferry]

@daring stag if u want example I can show u my sc factory (2 per min, recycled plastic and fused quickwire alt)

[fluid sapphire]

you can have 100% efficient factories with smaller modules, these concepts are not mutually excluse, its much easier to achieve nicer numbers if you make modules too

[daring stag]

I need the 1000 tickets achievement tho

waste is needed at all my factories

[fluid sapphire]

in fact i would argue its considerably easier to make 100% efficient smaller modules

[lean ferry]

that can be easy to do if u can afk overnight (if u can)

make like nuclear pasta, turbo motor and a bunch of other factories

and then just hook em up to a sink and afk overnight

[daring stag]

my 2nd base was how you describe but at some point it's too hard to balance everything

some lines become slow, other become full, etc

[fluid sapphire]

its perfectly fine, you can play how you want 😄

complex graphs i just cant personally handle

[daring stag]

easier to build from scratch for each big item and add sinker all over the place

[fluid sapphire]

i just dont see how its easier

[daring stag]

well for me it's easy because I build on a single floor, so I take the diagram, I build rows like in the diagram, then connect everything, and it's done

no optimization of beauty or anything; full clipping etc

[fluid sapphire]

ah, yes, that explains a lot

[lean ferry]

@daring stag u wana see my factory tho? its sc factory 2 a sec

[daring stag]

yeah sure

[lean ferry]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Ma8nVUM0OJVsVRCB6U6u

oh bruh

[daring stag]

so in this diagram there is 7 lines, so I will have on a single floor, 7 rows of machines

[fluid sapphire]

i have a kind of standard i try to stick to with aesthetics, not super pretty, but organized and OK to look at

[lean ferry]

I forgot it doesnt save

[daring stag]

then I sarcophage this shit like Chernobyl

[lean ferry]

I removed the tab to make uranium fuel rod factory

im gonna reopen it

[daring stag]

here is example of this principle of copying diagram row by row then sarcophage it #screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

yeap, i get it

[lean ferry]

this is the right one

check screenshots its the newest one

[daring stag]

seems you took low res screenshot

[lean ferry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397909824204963911/image.png?ex=68837079&is=68821ef9&hm=1ffb2ca55c52e450fbd1c053a70560fdcc214350d47cb0bfb50a1266b633f0d7&

oh sorry I was using windows snipping

[daring stag]

you can share link tho

oh wait links are forbidden

[dense violet]

Why not chat about it in #math-and-meta ? Where you can post images

[lean ferry]

oh yes im new to this server

[dense violet]

Gen chat is basically the only place you can’t post images

[daring stag]

cant post image, cant post links..

so we share images in screenshots and link them here, that's bad imo but /shrug

[fluid sapphire]

damn, ya'll really are crazy 😄
#screenshots message

this is how i make HMF

[daring stag]

where do the part come from though

also you have to scale up those parts everytime some new item needs them

[fluid sapphire]

its right there, on the other diagrams

they are all in separate buildings

[daring stag]

yeah I see but then scalability seems still an issue

[lean ferry]

I use heavy encased frame, iron pipe and heavy encased pipe

[fluid sapphire]

no, i make a new factory, this is my personal supply, i also have one that makes 18 per min, that feeds my FMF

[daring stag]

you can't go to infinite with shard boosting

[lean ferry]

no coal needed

[fluid sapphire]

its not

there is no scaling of this needed

my big one looks similar

except all the modules are in the same building

but its modular all the same

[daring stag]

aight

me I tend to have a full from scratch chain for all items in the game that ends in a depot and sinker overflow

[fluid sapphire]

i think that works up to a point, but when it gets to more complex parts its insanity

[daring stag]

after 100 hours of playing that's the idea but since I want the achievement of mass tickets that's logical I want a lot of waste

[fluid sapphire]

are you really going to build nuclear pasta from scratch?

all in one place

[fathom shuttle]

Give me ideas on what to do with my first nuke

[daring stag]

well for quest items I do differently tbh, I stock on the big items needed then handfeed them

[fluid sapphire]

well, pressure conversion cubes then

[daring stag]

I think lot of people do that anyway

I'll see when I start

the supercomputer factory seems already insanely big on paper

[fluid sapphire]

that production chain is absolutely nutty if you put it all in one graph

[lean ferry]

well how he ognna get the eggs and the flour

heck im getting my italian freind on the game

[daring stag]

but remember since I don't care about aesthetics, I can pop 50 buildings in 20 minutes

[fluid sapphire]

plant some grains, get some eggs to start growing chickens?

[fathom shuttle]

I need ideas guys

[fluid sapphire]

tthats basically what this is

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll test it on the local population first…

[fluid sapphire]

if you are cooking a meal you want to eat today at home you dont go out to get seeds for grain that you use to make your flour, that into bread and so on

[daring stag]

no logistics floor, no elevators, just full clipped to 11 pipelines/belt everywhere, that speeds up a lot these megafactory that reinvent the wheel everytime

[fluid sapphire]

you will die of starvation before you can eat anything

[fathom shuttle]

wtf dawg the nuke didn’t do anything to the hatchers

[lean ferry]

spitter steak

[fluid sapphire]

sure but if you make a mistake somewhere it sounds like an absolute nightmare

[lean ferry]

my factory is made by hopes and dreams

[daring stag]

well since they are isolated the only real mistake possible is the shared bus of resources

[lean ferry]

I forget to connect 1 cable? 30 mins of trouble shooting

[daring stag]

like if I don't have enough raw materials coming in, then it's a big problem

[fluid sapphire]

thats far from the only thing that can go wrong

if you are really saying that you have literally never connected a belt wrong or forgotten a piece of pipe somewhere i dont believe you 😄

[lean ferry]

exactly

[daring stag]

in theory I build the thing, sarcophage it, then never go back to it (all end items goes to alien depot, all waste goes to sink)

yes of course, but that's during the initial startup of the factory

[fluid sapphire]

well thats when problems appear, if mistakes were made somewhere

[daring stag]

I verify that the last building in the chain runs at 100% for some minutes then I leave

[fluid sapphire]

if its a big system it takes a long time to stabilize

[fathom shuttle]

I’m going to run some experiments on the swamp

[daring stag]

honestly I had a lot more issues with "shared" factories

it was too complex to scale up for me

[lean ferry]

the absolute goat of all overclocking

anyways

time to absolutely kill my sanity while automating 120 packaged rocket fuel and fused frames

[fluid sapphire]

the thing about building modular is that you dont try to arbitrarily combine lines that were not specifically built to be combined

[daring stag]

oh yeah I need to make them rocket fuels btw

[daring stag]

yeah but then that means a lot of planning and I'm a lazy mofo

[fluid sapphire]

understandable 😄

its a testament to the game to how many ways there are to approach it truly

[daring stag]

maybe if a do another run with the experience (it's my first ever run and I intend to 100% the game on it)

seems it will take as long as Baldur's Gate 3

[fathom shuttle]

I just blew up a herd of hogs lmao

[fluid sapphire]

i spent the first 300 hours collecting XP, then deleted everything and started over with all the stuff i already had unlocked

[daring stag]

meh, my first ultra shitty factory in the rocky desert is still there, it supplies infinite iron plates to alien depot

still useful imo

[fluid sapphire]

no doubt, and i hear this mantra here often, "dont delete, just go elsewhere"

i dont like the idea of hidden random spaghetti somewhere on my map

[daring stag]

that's something I learned in my profession (dev). never delete something that works, no matter how shit it is

[fluid sapphire]

i dont have much programming experience but i try to write my code so that i can reference it later if i need to

[daring stag]

sure you should

it's more like when you arrive at some new codebase someone else wrote

your first reaction is to trash everything and redo from scratch

[lean ferry]

noononoonoanoaoaoa

[fluid sapphire]

well, its a different story with someone elses code of course

[lean ferry]

hard drive grind time 😦

I need diluted fuel, heavy oil residue

[daring stag]

when time passes, your code becomes someone elses code, to you

www dot joelonsoftware dot com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-never-do-part-i/

excellent article on the subject, I think it applies to more than code

[fluid sapphire]

ah, the bread and butter of oil processing

[radiant swallow]

how do i prevent a drone from delivering an item to a drone station it's supposed to pick something up from?

[dreamy bane]

the station has diff conveyor spots for pick up and drop off

[radiant swallow]

not what i meant

i want to pick up items from a drone port (alu bottles) but i dont want to deliver bottled rocket fuel to the alu bottle provider port

[dreamy bane]

so the drone is already carrying rocket fuel and u want it to carry bottles as well?

u might need a new drone then it can carry one type of item each trip from point A-B

and a new type of item from B-A

[radiant swallow]

yeah i just put a drone port down that requests alu bottles and another that will provide rocket fuel in the future..

[reef basin]

yeah that's not what #screenshots is for

[radiant swallow]

i am a little bit miffed about that, that there is 0 logic programming for those drone ports :/

[full perch]

Is it normal for gridline on power pole to be not stable?my coal setup keep up and down between 350 to 600

[daring stag]

I agree

[radiant swallow]

either not enough resources fed into the plant or it needs to run warm first

[dreamy bane]

need advice i just completed phase 4-
power grid is maxed out and most of my power comes from regular fuel, should i convert it to turbo fuel or directly go for nuclear power

[reef basin]

nuclear

[dreamy bane]

should be stable, let ur manifolds stabilize and make sure all the conveyors can carry the amt of coal needed

[radiant swallow]

i just skipped nuclear fuel because i dont want to set up all the refining and cleaning up of nuclear.

[dreamy bane]

is turbo fuel enough to finish the game?

[reef basin]

you can skip those steps

[radiant swallow]

i can't get rid of nuclear waste i thought

[fluid sapphire]

this is kinda off topic, i read your article and yeah, im not arguing against that, it makes sense. but its obviously dependent on scope - in my case the scope is small enough, starting from scratch the way i did, i have managed to avoid basically everything i wasnt satisfied previously and its given me a newfound problem solving attitude

in that I do rework a lot of stuff, if theres a problem with a layout, BUT i can design my way around it, i do that, instead of starting from scratch

[daring stag]

I heard rocket fuel is op and allow you to bypass nuclear completely

[reef basin]

no you can store it

[reef basin]

meh

[radiant swallow]

....that is not "getting rid" of nuclear waste

that is pushing the problem somewhere else

[dreamy bane]

thats for the wildlife to deal with

[reef basin]

most saves don't last infinite amount of time

[radiant swallow]

i am doing that right now lol

i got 2/6 fuel generator stacks done and already trippled my power output lol

[fathom shuttle]

All that’s left for the plutonium fuel rods is the pellets, encased cells and finally making them

The particle accelerators should fit

[plush dove]

factorio better

[fluid sapphire]

you heard correctly - but some people dont like building 600 generators for 144GW power

[radiant swallow]

bait used to be believable

[fluid sapphire]

building generators is so easy now, it took less than an hour to get 600 built

[dreamy bane]

true 1/10 bait

[radiant swallow]

how do you do that lol

even with my blueprint it will take a bit of time to set up the 385 i need

[fathom shuttle]

You can fit 4 of them in a blueprint with the piping

[radiant swallow]

i know

[daring stag]

just witnessed green stinger vs radioactive hog. hog won

mystery solved

[fathom shuttle]

Just connect power poles under the platform for power so you use your hoverpack

You can easily do 1k/hr this way

[fluid sapphire]

each blender makes 150, basically each of my BPs has 2 generators, i build the ground floor that has all the piping, i made 3x5 rows, then just stack new BPs on top

make a power connector set up that i can daisy chain them on the way down

theni just do the next stack

its unbelievably easy

each pipe for me feeds 2x18 generators, stacked up

[fluid sapphire]

i didnt even do that, if you build stacks next to each other the way i describe, then the plugs from the previous stack power your hoverpack for the next one

[daring stag]

seems I became a coward, really liking exploration with hoverpack+power lines

[fluid sapphire]

#screenshots message

[daring stag]

tbh it was very handy for that 420MW hard drive lol

[placid stirrup]

Duuuuuude... Where's my spaceship?!

[daring stag]

also I build geothermal everywhere and link it to my infinite grid lines

[peak wasp]

can anyone help me w smth?

theres like a big rock above iron ore but i cant REMOVE IT

so i cant put a miner above it

[daring stag]

hold e on it

mine it manually until it disappear

[peak wasp]

i cant

when i look at it it just doesnt work

[boreal musk]

nobelisk

[daring stag]

then maybe it's the rock destructible, you need some explosive, the earliest is explosive rebar I think

[peak wasp]

can i show u?

[fluid sapphire]

is it a spiky rock or a round gray one

[peak wasp]

explosive?

bruh what level do i ened for it

[full perch]

So I'm done with coal setup right with a stable line of production 600mw,I can just ignore it now right? 8:3 setup btw

[daring stag]

explosive rebar, nobelisk

explo rebar is pretty early in sulphur MAM tree I think

[fluid sapphire]

check sulfur research, you will need steel production also

[boreal musk]

no, explosive rebar is oil

[peak wasp]

yea i dont have steel yet

[daring stag]

then that's a problem to solve before the rock

[boreal musk]

leave it, come back to it until you produce some steels

just find other nodes

[full perch]

Normally how long can a 8generator coal setup last till which phase ?I'm new

[reef basin]

that depends on how much you build, you can't really answer that generic question

[fathom shuttle]

I personally find it more comfortable and time efficient build a factory platform that can provide me with hoverpack coverage than depending on the machines and constantly going back and forth to connect them

[fluid sapphire]

for building my generators vertically it wasnt necessary to have any extra setup to provide power for the hoverpack, since the generators needed to be connected anyway - im not sure i follow what kind of setup you mean though?

[ashen belfry]

I mean in theory you could finish the game on it.
It's just a matter of underclocking and waiting til you have enough resources

[ashen belfry]

Might be a few lifetimes though

[fluid sapphire]

my solution was the minimum amount of steps i could think of - pipes auto connect, and all i had to do was daisy chain the generators on the way down - no auxiliary tasks whatsoever

[fluid sapphire]

except you can, if you unpack the question a bit, they are most likely not looking for an absolute 100% definitive objective truth which your interpretation of the question seems to imply

[fluid sapphire]

if you dont go crazy with scale, if you double that to 16 generators at one point, it should be enough to fairly comfortably last you until oil power, at which point its easier to scale up your power production

[boreal musk]

8 coal gens can last me till encased beam, and then i upgrade my coal plant with mk2 to start working for motor and stuffs

[dawn ravine]

I recently upgraded my main coal plant to Mk 2 miners

[tall plover]

I had 2 when i got to encased beams 💀

[calm thorn]

should i aim for oil or geothermal power first

[daring stag]

oil for sure

[jaunty jewel]

oil gives you petrochemical products as well, geothermal just adds some power to your power grid

i do geothermal usually between phase 3 and 4 to give me an extra power boost

usually while i wait for spelevator parts

[daring stag]

if you rack up a good amount of geothermal that's some good amount of "free" power

I build them while exploring

[boreal musk]

you need oil for geothermal anyway

[daring stag]

yeah it comes weirdly late

[white dawn]

Yeah, even with the geothermal "buffs" to 1.0 (just adding more geysers around the map) the "normal" progression for geothermal unlock remains a bit late, though I suppose it's just that they didn't want people to see it as something they could do instead of fuel power

[jaunty jewel]

id say you need manufacturers for geothermal rather than oil since you dont need oil for hsc

[white dawn]

Although I do think that you can unlock geothermal pretty early on using just crash-site material

Not sure how many you can actually build with just crash-site material, though

[boreal musk]

and manufacturer needs plastic which need oil, your point?

[jaunty jewel]

i genuinely have never looked at the manufacturer recipe

i just place them because i always have the mats

[boreal musk]

hsc needs circuit board which need plastic

[jaunty jewel]

circuit board does not need plastic

[boreal musk]

if you have the alt, sure

base recipe needs plastic

[reef basin]

but guess what, the alt needs oil to unlock

[lean ferry]

LETS GOO HEAVY OIL RESIDUE FINNALYY

[tacit belfry]

I need help with train signals

[reef basin]

make a #1038092680493801533 post with images

[tacit belfry]

cheers

[lean ferry]

ok now all I need is diluted fuel not packaged

and then im good and I can make 120 packaged rocket fuel

[reef basin]

why not packaged? it has same oil to fuel efficiency

[lean ferry]

plastic

and less of a hassle to package, unpackage etc

[reef basin]

what's with plastic?

[jaunty jewel]

it only uses plastic to start the system

[lean ferry]

package the water

I knoww but im lazyyyyyy

[jaunty jewel]

its a loop after that

[reef basin]

the canisters are recycled back into the system

[jaunty jewel]

lazy isnt efficient, try again

[lean ferry]

😦

[reef basin]

eh, you can make a blueprint that will act as a "blender"

[lean ferry]

oh yh u can sloop blenders aswell

but wait u can sloop refineries

im just lazy lol

[prisma crater]

man ...ionized fuel is really way to complex, power and resource intensive to be actually useful.....

It's fun for exploring, but sadly you can only get it in the extremely late game when you probably have done all the exploring you ever need

Anybody who found a proper use for ionized fuel, cause I can't think of any...it costs so much energy to create with so little gain compared to rocket fuel. (as opposed to rocketfuel vs turbo fuel, which was a huge gain)

[reef basin]

it's not designed to be used for power

[jaunty jewel]

you can get it once you unlock fluid tanks

[lean ferry]

tbf... packaged fuel is easier to transport

[prisma crater]

I know that, I was looking for something that it was usefull for

[stray sorrel]

what is it used for then

[boreal musk]

jetpack fuel

[reef basin]

• sinking power shards
• fuel for vehicles
• fuel for jetpack

[lean ferry]

ok fine lets make a deal ill used diluted fuel after I get all the good recipes

like not good but the ones that are good for me

[prisma crater]

no not really for jetpacks as it's to expensive to create and i explored already and mostly use the hover pack

[fathom shuttle]

294GW

Doing a small test run rn

[prisma crater]

maybe it's usefull for drones but still very expensive to make as opposed to rocket fuel

[reef basin]

yes, for jetpacks as well. Whehter you like it or not is not relevant, it has highest flight time out of all the fuels

[jaunty jewel]

the humble awesome shop

[barren dove]

at some point in the game you don't care about what its used for or it it cost to much. you just wanna build something

[prisma crater]

yes it's the highest flight time. as in that 1.01 is more than 1.00.
It's not that good

[reef basin]

60s is a lot compared to most other fuels

[prisma crater]

it only needs to be compared to rocket fuel as it's not available before that

[cedar portal]

I usse it to fuel my drones to get the extra speed

[reef basin]

rocket fuel is 27.5s

that's less than a half

[fathom shuttle]

Uranium reactors water is 100% stable very nice

[prisma crater]

ok I didn't know that, it was terrible in fuel generators (only 1.15 sec less per minute)

and i didn;t know it made drones fly faster

[jaunty jewel]

overclocking drones !

[reef basin]

for fuel gens it's 5000 MJ vs 3600 MJ, that's 139%

[cedar portal]

Making Ionized Fuel isn't too hard if you're at endgame. It was harder for me to swicth all my battery retrieval drone ports to the ionized fuel one and pull the batteries out of all the lines all over the map.

[fathom shuttle]

Bro what, if I shut the water off from the reactor nothing happens??

[cedar portal]

45m/s insteadd of 37m/s for batteries. Tied for fastest speed with plutionium fuel rods

[fathom shuttle]

I was expecting a nuclear meltdown ngl

[prisma crater]

I will check into the drone use for fuel (I was thinking about a fuel drone port that I would put in the drone flight schedule to fuel up)

[white dawn]

Nah, the NPP will just eventually shut off once its internal water buffer gets low enough (as with any other generator which runs out of material). There's no "meltdown" mechanic in the game

I suppose if the NPP stops you might end up with radioactive material accumulating in buffers more than usual, which could lead to increased ambient radiation. :)

[fathom shuttle]

I’m now confident enough in the system to connect the fuel now

[fathom shuttle]

Shame, I wanted a nuke to go off or something lol

The steam the reactors let off is so cool

[daring stag]

rbmk reactors do not explode

[fathom shuttle]

I’ve connected the fuel belt

[tacit belfry]

Anyone expert on train signals, when free, please go check my cry for help in train signals problem cheers

[fathom shuttle]

294GW #screenshots message

I’ll be making 520GW once the plutonium sections starts up

[twilit escarp]

Hey guys, i got a question for you: How do you manage with the idea that when you unlock new stuff to craft and you need those materials to progress. You have your factories producing the required material for that but not in great quantities.
Lets use modular frame as an example: You have your factory that is producing reinforced iron plates, so you bring some iron rods to it and now you got your modular frames. But now you unlocked heavy modular frame, so bringing steel pipes, encased indrustrial beams and screws into an unplanned area is already a bit too much. How do you manage that? Just make a dedicated factory for each material?

[fathom shuttle]

I just leave old factories behind

[tacit belfry]

that was my solution

I just made a bunch of singular constructor factories

and the made a bunch of assembler factories

and soon to make manufacturor factories

[twilit escarp]

tbh i dont like that

having a factory only for one type of building

[tacit belfry]

thats how I cope with it

since alternative recipes exist, I just found suitable areas and built them there

[twilit escarp]

what i did on my most recent factory was:
Context- i unlocked steel and needed steel stuff
first floor, third floor , fourth, etc... - logistic floors
second floor - turn iron + coal into steel ingot
4th floor - turn steel ingots into steel rods and steel beems
6th floor (unplanned but worked out) - turn the steel rods and the steel beams into rotos and encased industrial beams (had to bring the concrete and the copper wire into it)

[tacit belfry]

grabbing your own description, you can make all 3 items you've listed with one specific steel factory with limestone spawn next to it

you can make steel screws if you get the chance to find the alternate recipe

[twilit escarp]

but the thing is, since the factory splits into 2 paths

the steel rod and the steel beams, it means its producing half of steel beams it could make

its alr when you just need an handfull of the new material

but then when you need more than that, rip

the only solution i see would be to go and make a dedicated factory

(no, i dont have trains yet)

[tacit belfry]

if you're at a point where you need more than 10 constructors with x2.5 + somersloop can produce

[twilit escarp]

and no, wihtout trains i am not bringing belts from one side of the map to the other

[tacit belfry]

then most likely you need to expand and I suggest, again, finding a suitable spot with pures or relatively close by to make those dedicated factories

[fathom shuttle]

Uh I’m having a bit of a backup

[twilit escarp]

so, my next goal would be to make motors, to get into tier 5 (dw, i have made oil refineries before) so to make it easier, just expand my current factory, bring some rotors and make the motors there?

since its easier to make rotor vs stator

[reef basin]

My factories make stuff for storage, not for other factories

[reef basin]

I'd recommend making separate factory for motors

[twilit escarp]

even if i already have a factory with stators?

i usualy have an issue

i plan too much and then my mind overblows and then nothing is done

[reef basin]

Yeah

[twilit escarp]

so i like to get a small thing out of the way, it starts storing

[tacit belfry]

Perhaps you should do something similar to mine, where I separate factories by their rss use

[twilit escarp]

and then make the big project

[tacit belfry]

Constructor factories, Assembler and Manufactor

[reef basin]

See https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[tacit belfry]

that way you can make all specific rss and use trains to distribute them, but that my 2 cents

[reef basin]

Don't plan for future

[lean ferry]

guys

after some hard drive hunting I got like a bunch of options

and from them these are the most notable ones: electromagnetic connection unity thingy pure aluminium ingot and plastic ai limiter

[tacit belfry]

Sometimes, the best way to deal with overplanning is finding someone to play with

[lean ferry]

are they good? (rest are some terrible ones)

I have like 10 rescans (in total)

[radiant swallow]

the pure alu ingots are nice if you are too lazy to set up silica production for alu ingots

[twilit escarp]

sp run this time

[radiant swallow]

i did set up silica production and i don't regret it, also took a LOT longer to finally produce alu ingots lol

but you get a third more ingots

[lean ferry]

I also found classic battery

but rocket fuel is better and im gonna uatomate that in a second anyways

[twilit escarp]

in my last big run i did in a coop with someone who never played any of this games, my biggest project there was a computer factory with 15 computers /s and then we were making a big central hub project, but we got tired of it cause of mp issues making super hard to configure stuff

[lean ferry]

I cant do a proper co-op

I did a co-op with my freind that I know, and he just didnt want to play satisfactory and just stopped playing

he was the world owner so that was the end of it

btw im gonna say something controversial:

[twilit escarp]

I did it on the blue crater using all the resources there

[lean ferry]

heavy oil residue and diluted packaged fuel makes 120 packaged rocket fuel EZ

[twilit escarp]

(back in 8.0)

[lean ferry]

heck i can probably make 240 or 360

[twilit escarp]

he can just give you the save file

[lean ferry]

200 water, 96 gas 91 coal and sulfur and 60 crude oil

[lean ferry]

he played msot of it tho cuz he has nearly double the freetime (he set up trains, aluminium and stuff )

wait hold on im slow how much drones can 120 packaged rocket fuel/m power again?

[twilit escarp]

hmm, that is a good ideology

[lean ferry]

if not enough I might just upgrade to 240/m

[fluid sapphire]

depending on travel distance like 25-40?

based on what someone told me the other day about 180 RF

[lean ferry]

1km average

idk if 40 is enough in the long run

problem is im gonna have to redo my empty tank production then

ill just expand it later

[twilit escarp]

also, i dont have smart spliter or train yet, but in a central storage, how do you deal with those resouces your produce a lot but dont need as much in storage? I know i can just sink them, but they will still flood the belts

[cedar portal]

Whats wrong with letting them flood the belts?

[boreal musk]

whats the problem with full storage

[lean ferry]

bruuabuwhahbrawh but 40 is small number and my inner ficsit is telling me to get more

[fluid sapphire]

just do some research and unlock the smart splitter?

[lean ferry]

what do yall think?? do I upg to 240'm,

[fluid sapphire]

i would

[tacit belfry]

I had the same experience lad

[fluid sapphire]

i am considering something similar myself, i was initially planning on packaging 150

but im not sure, i am also planning to make a giant packaged fuel factory

[lean ferry]

screw this

im making 240 rocket fuel

im gonan seperate packaged rocket fuel and my power

[fluid sapphire]

easier to be safe

[lean ferry]

so I can expand each seperately (I have a turbofuel powerplant I can just convert into rocket fuel with some nitric acid

[fluid sapphire]

that gives me the genius idea of separating another blender from my RF production for another 150 and putting sloops in both for a total of 600 RF for packaging, but i would still need to make the fluid tanks

at the same time though, i would have more drones flying around if i just fed them with regular fuel

[cedar portal]

I'd run all my drones off plutonium rods but don't like the idea of every factory being radioactive. I like to AFK a lot at this stage and poke around idily and don't want to have to run away from all my drone ports every time I get interupted

[shy mulch]

your name dictates you should use ionized fuel

[cedar portal]

I spent yesterday and today switching from batteries to Ionizeed fuel. 🙂

[shy mulch]

yay

[twilit escarp]

nono, you got me wrong, i am only doing that once i unlock it, i am just asking for when i decide to make it ( not making the central storage rn)

[cedar portal]

Half tghe time making a 100/min ionized fuel factory, and the other half switching 30 or so drone ports from the battery port to the new ionized one, removing batteries from all the belts and ports those were feeding... about 150 in total.

[fluid sapphire]

sinking them is pretty standard, im not sure what you mean by the products flooding the belts?

[keen hawk]

finally set up my oil production; unfortunately havent found hor alt yet so my power grid is about half what it could be

[twilit escarp]

so if my belts are mk3 and lets say i have 200 iron places/s, it means it only leaves 70 items/s for other items

[shy mulch]

I've actually never produced batteries. My drone evolution was fuel, turbofuel, rocketfuel. I use so many drones I think it would be a huge operation to make enough ionized for them all, maybe one day

[humble osprey]

what noblisk do u use when

[shy mulch]

normal ones until you automate nuke ones, then nuke ones for everything, cos why not

[fluid sapphire]

i still dont understand, why would you need to have everything on a single belt, just have more belts, in most situations its easier have one belt per type of product, or more than one if that belt is over capacity

or you build in blocks

[cedar portal]

I built most of my drone network before drones could use anything but batteries, so I had a LOT to sswitch over when i finally decided to do it

[daring stag]

cluster for killing forests

[shy mulch]

use a separate belt for each thing, why mix them?

[tacit belfry]

@twilit escarp just noticed lad

[cedar portal]

How much turbofuel do you use/min? I wish theree was an easy way to get those stats, i just have to guess mostly. All I know is I was making 100 batteries/min and it never ran out.

[tacit belfry]

you also into idle

[twilit escarp]

🙂

[tacit belfry]

good stuff

[twilit escarp]

i didnt mentioned it cause would be off topic, and was too lazy to change rooms

[acoustic heart]

Did drones at one point only take batteries as fuel? Or am I mistaken?

[tacit belfry]

automation is also another form of idleing

only those who know, know

[visual estuary]

quick question, why are some stations and trains yellow on the map?

[shy mulch]

Urmmm, no idea, I'll see if I can figure it out

[cedar portal]

Belt counters wwould be great if they could show me an avaerage over an hour, or a day 😄

[twilit escarp]

min maxing factories ( or as other say, optimizing) so that you can get as much as possible 😄

[tacit belfry]

every decimal counts

[cinder solar]

anyone want to play with me if yes dm me

[acoustic heart]

How do y’all fuel your drones? Do you just have a dedicated drone set to deliver fuel for other drones?

[barren leaf]

hey how worth is the charcoal recipe? there arent any wood nodes to pull from right?

[fluid sapphire]

i think the general consensus is its damn near worthless because wood cant be automated

[barren leaf]

mmmm yeah that makes sense

[fluid sapphire]

you could have fuel runners, yes

[winged walrus]

hii!

[shy mulch]

I suspect it varies a lot, but the belt counter I just put on my packaged rocket fuel that's sent off for drone usage is currently showing 165/min

[acoustic heart]

Cool cool. I got like 4 drones that need fueling. Figured that might be the best way

[fluid sapphire]

its probably the easiest

[shy mulch]

My biggest factory has 12 drone ports, they are twinned with various drone ports all over the place, and I have 1 drone bring fuel in to feed them all

[cedar portal]

The problem I have with trying to measure it is drones only pick up batteries now and then so nothing migth happen for 10 minutes then 3 drones show up to grab new batteries, then nothing for 15 minutes and one comes in.

[acoustic heart]

Okay. That’s sick. Just unlocked them so I’m trying to come up with a good system for them

[daring stag]

if I need 11.181 refinery at 100%.. that's how many refinery with power shards, 5 right?

[fluid sapphire]

you can get away with less

divide by 2.5

ah. nah, still 5 xd

[daring stag]

yeah it bugged me out lol even if it's preschool math

[half scaffold]

How do you close a question in #1038092680493801533 ?

[cedar portal]

Rate my load balancer? 😄
#screenshots message

[willow glen]

No need. Just unfollow the post. Leave it up for others to search if they had a similar problem