satisfactory

[fathom shuttle]

Then the issue is with you fuel setup

90% is that it’s not enough water

[lean ferry]

I’m stupid I just realised I forgot that I didn’t connect the conveyor from one refinery to the packaged

I did it in blueprints and forgot to connect them together mb

[lean ferry]

That means there’s not enough plastic containers to recycle meaning water is also slowed down

[fathom shuttle]

100 is enough for a recycling loop

[still glen]

Steel Rod
OR
Wet Concrete

or ofc re-roll

[reef basin]

pick any that you like, if you don't know, just flip a coin or keep it for later

you can get all recipes anyway, so it doesn't matter much

[still glen]

I was under the impression you can only get alternates from hard drives? are there a lot more hard drives than recipes?

[reef basin]

yes, there's more drives than recipes

so you don't "lose" any recipe

[still glen]

ahh ok

[ashen spruce]

Yippee

Have fun with Cadet #1.

[daring ingot]

hello guys, very new player, i need some help rq - im trying to connect this lift to the splitter but its not letting me, i suppose because theyre basically touching. is there a way around this issue?

i would post a pic but im not allowed to :(

[reef basin]

#1038092680493801533 would allow you to make a thread with image

but generally if things are too close, a solution may be to build them further apart 🙂

[ashen spruce]

If you don't want to make a post for it, just post the picture(s) in #screenshots

[reef basin]

#screenshots isn't for that, it's for showing off your base

[daring ingot]

#screenshots message

[reef basin]

and spreading conversation between two channels isn't ideal

[ashen spruce]

eh, I still use it for such sometimes

[reef basin]

yeah and it's annoying to switch there and back

[daring ingot]

its alr bro ill be gone ASAP just allow it

[reef basin]

especially when more images are needed

[ashen spruce]

You need a merger up top.

[daring ingot]

omg

[ashen spruce]

The Elevator can't put it in at an output.

[ashen spruce]

Fair enough.

[round shell]

I can't wait to exploit Diluted Fuel to its full potential, it looks OP

[daring ingot]

im so dumb, the rotation is messed up hahaha

mb guys ty

[lean ferry]

Yall when you ping screenshots, how do y make it so you ping it to a certain image

[lean ferry]

Like that

[reef basin]

you can use Diluted Packaged Fuel, which you can do as soon as you get oil

[daring ingot]

right click copy link

[lean ferry]

Thanks

[fathom shuttle]

On mobile long press and click copy message link

[lean ferry]

When I get heavy oil residue alternate I’m gonna be rich I alr have diluted packages

Hopefully I can get diluted fuel now

[rustic hare]

the multiplication rate is crazy, and with all the resin, you can literally produce decent amounts of plastic and rubber from the leftover

[round shell]

Yeah true although the packager loop is kinda goofy

[lean ferry]

45 crude oil into 120 fuel is mad

[reef basin]

eh, it's super simple, you make a blueprint with 1 refinery and two packagers, loop the belt, put 20 canister in it, save the blueprint and it acts as a blender, so you just spam it as many times as you need

[still glen]

best way to transfer large amount of items? im tier 4 rn so i dont got trains? I was just gonna create long ass converyor belts?

[rustic hare]

I'm doing exactly this lol

[still glen]

by items i mean ores from the source lol

[fathom shuttle]

Trucks

[reef basin]

generally the recommendation would be "don't transport items, build near the source"

[rustic hare]

since I had the same problem when I was doing a steel farm, and was transporting coal which also acts as the fuel, I used a tractor

[still glen]

hmmm

[rustic hare]

idk how far you are talking, but it surely looked cleaner than spaghettis

[still glen]

its about a kilometer

[fathom shuttle]

Definitely build a road and use a tractor

[rustic hare]

I don't have a sense of distance in this game sorry it's my inability to comprehend distance

[still glen]

alright, thanks

[muted parrot]

Not really a fan of tractors, I think setting up all the logistics to get it running will probably take longer than just making a long belt lol

[silk rose]

no trains no frames

[fathom shuttle]

Tbh i would build a belt but a highway can be later upgraded to a train

[lean ferry]

How much power can I make from a. Pure oil node max

[fathom shuttle]

144gw

[silk rose]

144 gw with rocket fuel

[ashen spruce]

Do that, you can use Frame Foundations with Grip Metal 1M clipped inside, it looks good.

[lean ferry]

Gw is gigawats right? So 144000mw

[prisma yoke]

Lol I remember my first playthrough I had an awful spaghetti base set up near that lake with the coal deposits north of the grassy fields and when I got to oil refining for some reason I pumped an oil pipeline all the way from the islands on the west coast back to my base (where I didn't even have room to expand) instead of just making a factory out there
Safe to say I learned not to do that again if I could help it

[silk rose]

right

ionised fuel isnt worth it for power

[ashen spruce]

Belts are the only thing that don't have throughput issues on longer distances, so they're theoretically the best way of transportation. Practically, trains are harder to set up and take a long time, but it will just save you more time in comparison to making huge Beltways.

[fathom shuttle]

7GW for water extractors

[rustic hare]

MW* not mw, mw is miliwatt

[silk rose]

trains = frames

[ashen spruce]

= frames+ or = frames-?

[silk rose]

compared to belts

[tall plover]

Thats why i considered making a belt system but damn, moving thousands of items per minute just to support 1 factory is gonna be hell

[muted parrot]

I've beaten the game without using trains and just using long belts when needed, it's not that hard if you just sit down and do it

[silk rose]

also save time depends on count of world objects

[tall plover]

same

[muted parrot]

I use trains now, but I build with them in mind

[silk rose]

train is like 10, belt is like 1000

[muted parrot]

I wasn't spaghetti belting either, I made a foundation path for the belt

[silk rose]

even tho conveyor items are instances

[boreal musk]

once you have infrastructure for trains, its just a matter of adding more train onto the line, basically unlimited throughput compared to belt

[round shell]

My first play in the grass fields I did a ton of extremely inefficient stuff that took loads of time and didn't accomplish much. That was in one of the early ish betas too so without a lot of the QoL

And with a lot of the spaghet

[lean ferry]

For some reason in my first play through (well kinda is still ) I did maximise all I could and avoided spaghetti

My freind recommended and said “remember ratios and be efficient, avoid spaghetti”

[silk rose]

without straight build mode

[reef basin]

mw is nothing 😄 mW is milliwatt 😛

[silk rose]

tf

[rustic hare]

right, mw is mili(something) because SI regulates watt to be W

[reef basin]

doesn't seem like w is anything

[silk rose]

tungsten

[hard ivy]

that's also W

[silk rose]

damnit

[rustic hare]

miliwhat

[silk rose]

lmao

[reef basin]

mili

[silk rose]

thats when you see turbofuel broduction rates

that 18.25 or something

[reef basin]

4.1666666666 per minute burn rate of rocket fuel wants to have a chat

[hard ivy]

Or 2.8125 production rate of HEF

A recipe with like a 13 second crafting time would be even more diabolical

[lean ferry]

I just realised how long it will take me to automate super computers

Is there a good recipe for supercomputers or is it just a genuine pain

[reef basin]

depends what do you call "good"

[hard ivy]

A repeating decimal with 6 digit period lol

[placid stirrup]

I'm a fan of using the rotor alt that makes it use the same inputs as stators, forgetting the name

[hard ivy]

Default and super state are both good

OC is pretty meh, unless you're slooping it, then maybe

[reef basin]

very expensive steel rotors

[placid stirrup]

Big fan of default SC

[lean ferry]

I do have fused Quickwire

[placid stirrup]

That's the bitch

[hard ivy]

Very catering hungry, but at least doesn't take any bauxite

[lean ferry]

Plastic is easy to get, quick wire is easy to get it’s the location that’s killing me

I’m planning to do it bottom right cuz there’s a pure cater out node near my oil factory

[placid stirrup]

Even at scale a single pure or normal caterium node gets you pretty far

[daring stag]

wasn't there a desktop app to plan satisfactory stuff

[lean ferry]

I don’t know where to make it but I know from a pure node I can get 1200 quickwire with pure quick wire

[lean ferry]

Not for location you have to find it manually and it’s a pain

[placid stirrup]

Satisfactory tools is all you need

[hard ivy]

I used to put mine north of the titan forest (eastern end of the canyon)

[lean ferry]

What canyon

[placid stirrup]

The big one

[daring stag]

the huge ass canyon between spires and the other stuff

[hard ivy]

The big canyon running half the width of the map in the north

[lean ferry]

The one that has arches that look like particle accelerators

[daring stag]

the one with hogs and spitters btw

[hard ivy]

Between rocky and dune desert

[lean ferry]

Ykw I’ll save my game and hypertube cannon , explore a bit and go old save

Or I can make a biomass burner and make another hyper cannon

Though I doubt there will be enough biomass

[daring stag]

I love exploring this world, reminds me of subnautica. I might even enjoy that more than the base building

[hard ivy]

Where it ends in the east, there's everything for default supercomputers, even with crystal computers if you want

[placid stirrup]

Why? Parachute is an early unlock

[lean ferry]

Now how do I get back

[placid stirrup]

Run

[daring stag]

by gettin eaten by stinger alpha

[lean ferry]

Turbofuel parkour or sea glide which is better

[placid stirrup]

Think of all the collectibles you'd miss otherwise on the way back

[hard ivy]

sea glide
Wrong game

[daring stag]

build a ladder to the top of the sky (achievement) then parachute the whole map is my guess

[lean ferry]

I know it’s wrong game just choose

[lean ferry]

Hear me out on this one

I have a lot of aluminium sheets do I just make a conveyor cannon and use turbofuel to get back

And when I run out of fuel parachute

[daring stag]

hyperloop then tap jetpack

[placid stirrup]

You're producing aluminum and you're worried about fast travel? Just drag a transmission line out with you then hyper cannon back

[daring stag]

yeah lol at this point of the game you can circle the whole map in minutes

[lean ferry]

That’s the thing

Power tower….

Or I could just expand my aluminium train line and make a train to twansfwr power

[hoary rose]

Ok

[lean ferry]

Should I just bring power to all 4 corners of the map if I need to make anything

[daring stag]

no, make a double track train

[placid stirrup]

Why are you asking us?

[daring stag]

just in case

use the u-jelly launchpad

[placid stirrup]

What are you talking about

[daring stag]

also one of my power grid got shutdown but I have a single grid so idk what to make of it

[placid stirrup]

Clearly not, if your "main" grid is still operational. Likely an accidentally deleted cable somewhere

[daring stag]

maybe a biomass burner somewhere

[toxic garden]

hello im new to the game, is it encouraged to watch lets plays for learning how to move forward when playing satisfactory or nah

[daring stag]

you do you. personally I prefer not spoiling the game

but I still need help for technical stuff like train but it's a game about exploration in part so

[dense violet]

not really, if you like sand boxs treat the tiers as a tutorial. Experience and ask specific questions here if you run into a problem

[daring stag]

yeah also a let's play of this game.. hope you have hundreds of hours ready for that

[toxic garden]

oh okay, ive just learned how to make a manifold and i wanna know how to like improve more in making my base more effecient

[subtle swan]

im trying to use the build planner but is there a way to change it to Mk1?

[slender citrus]

Anyone has a good color for heavy oil residue pipes?

[stray loom]

#AE1CD7

[slender citrus]

ty

[stray loom]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fjc8j8t3leahb1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D4900%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dbcb728380ff1d765924ee1556ce7337840c5597b
I saved this forever ago. It's got most of the items with pretty good matching color codes

[still glen]

Fused Quartz Crystal
OR
Solid Steel Ingot

[stray loom]

The wiki also has color codes for fluids I think as well

[slender citrus]

nice thanks, is it normal that the pipe looks blue at night with that color? #AE1CD7

[stray loom]

Solid steel ingot imo. Will let you get more steel per iron ore input which is nice early

[daring stag]

wait ionized fuel cost 100 power shards to research

[stray loom]

You sure you put the right code in? It doesn't look blue to me

[mortal ginkgo]

dont do that before you automate power shards, ionized fuel aint a massive big deal

[daring stag]

yeah good idea. it's good for jetpack though at least?

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah but the other variants are good enough and by that point you should have hoverpack

[slender citrus]

yea im sure, i can send picture to #design-and-architecture

[lean ferry]

Btw what do I do with nuclear waste before I get plutonium (I’m about to unlock nuclear I’m automating super computer)

[daring stag]

for combat tho

[lean ferry]

Like throw it in a place and forget about it

[mortal ginkgo]

I think biofuel one is better since you can stay in air much longer

[daring stag]

isn't it slower acceleration? I've read that but not tested

for combat I need speed

[mortal ginkgo]

ah yes, but still

dont just rush for it I say

[daring stag]

yeah for sure

100 power shards that I can't automate yet is crazy

[mortal ginkgo]

Its needing "Time Crystal" is also there to make people not yolo for that science early game if they rushed slugs so its gud.

[cedar portal]

How badly am I abusing clipping here? I needed the SAM out of the cave and this was just.. quicker. 😄
#screenshots message

[mortal ginkgo]

Automating power shards is a big deal on its own

[mortal ginkgo]

Mods. Get'im.

Put a foundation and a floor hole for decoration = Done. Kek

[cedar portal]

I did that to clip through dunes in the desert, they looked nice, goodd idea!

[lime ermine]

Just put it in an isu

[dense turtle]

if i need to move 180 items per minute on belts mk2 could i use 2 belts? will that work

[rain crystal]

What's isu?

[lime ermine]

Industrial storage unit

[dense turtle]

i need to move iron from extractor but i need 180 per minute from 1 extractor

[lime ermine]

You'll need two extractors if you don't have mk3 belts

[stray loom]

If you need 180 ore but only have mk2 belts you'll need 2 miners to get it

[dense turtle]

dang i guess imma unlock mk3 then no iron near

[lime ermine]

Mk3 belts are great anyways, whenever I get a new tier I always get the new belts first

[stray loom]

⁉️ Iron is everwhere lol

[fathom shuttle]

Def get mk3 belts when you can

[boreal musk]

automate steel beam at 30/min and you will never run out of them even if you spam mk3 everywhere

[cedar portal]

Better?
#screenshots message

[dense turtle]

but then theres also pipes and for beams at 30/min im using the extractors to the max

[mortal ginkgo]

Perfect. Now do the same thing below the cave and you have it all ready. ❤️

[dense turtle]

wait

okay im good

[cedar portal]

I can build a long elevator shaft down, that would be fun.

[dense turtle]

i guess not

[daring stag]

I need nitric acid btw

[fathom shuttle]

Uh oh I don’t think I’ve accounted for something in my nuclear power plant calculations

[daring stag]

which is on the other side of the map

[lost wagon]

I have coal generators clipping on top of eachother

You're fine

[daring stag]

imagine if the game disallowed clipping

how hard it would be lol

[fathom shuttle]

Could be worse… I have a drone that clips into the mountain

[dense turtle]

u think steel pipes 60/min is fine too?

[boreal musk]

40/min is already plenty enough

[dense turtle]

even if i use it for elevator thingies?

[boreal musk]

yeah

[dense turtle]

good

i trust u

[fathom shuttle]

So I’m using the fertile uranium recipe
What’s more efficient for making plutonium, is it instant plutonium cell or plutonium pellet?

[dense turtle]

now i gotta wait for one more coupon for belt holes in walls

[lost wagon]

Maybe in that case the belt would not go into eachother when you use the straight mode

Going into eachother and straight, what a sentence

[boreal musk]

idr, but it should be instant plut cell

might want to ask #math-and-meta for confirmation tho

you want more plutonium? might as well get the plutonium fuel unit alt for more rod per waste

[novel glen]

how to scroll down the item bar below?

[rich torrent]

So i started making smokeless powder and I have to pump a fluid from one machine to another
Does that fluid backup cause the machine producing it to backup like if a conveyer was full?

[fathom shuttle]

Im using that recipe
I’ll check once i get home this kinda threw me off

[boreal musk]

are you going to burn them?

[fathom shuttle]

It kinda threw me off when I learned that plutonium pellet uses waste so I got confused

[fathom shuttle]

Yea

[boreal musk]

id recommend to just send all the waste into bin, ficsonium is so expensive especially when youre doing more plutonium

[fathom shuttle]

That’s what I’m planning lol, I can’t be bothered with an improperly balanced item

[boreal musk]

just a couple of bp for bin and it will gives you hundreds of hours

[reef basin]

same answer as always - pick one you like more, or flip a coin, or reroll, or wait

store, or process

[lost wagon]

Solid steel

[hard ivy]

Store it, flush it down the toilet, or make Ficsonium

[fathom shuttle]

You can’t do that

[hard ivy]

25 plutonium reactors really do not make that much waste

[fathom shuttle]

Just 25/min I think

[hard ivy]

That's still only 1 container for every 6.4h of runtime

[fathom shuttle]

Yea storing that is super easy

[hard ivy]

Or you can sink the plutonium rods and you'll stop making waste

[boreal musk]

not supplying enough water? fully oc reactor use 600/min water

thats 2 250% water extractor or 5 at 100%

[fathom shuttle]

There is a mod with 20x speed

[naive pendant]

If you’re modding just mod in free power.

[fathom shuttle]

You can also just enable advanced settings

[willow glen]

so uhh, I have a factory that’s 40m in the air; floating, no supports, and somehow has 2 space-tick-whale-things in it???

…. How did they get in???

[stray loom]

Magic

Do not try to impede the factory inspectors

[willow glen]

Well I hope they like plastic and rubber cuz that’s all there is to eat in their new home…

[hoary swallow]

They’ll start with the tasty comcrete and metal structures

[shrewd lagoon]

how do you guys transport small volumes of items over long distances? like for items that I'm already making and would be annoying to make from scratch

[red sun]

honestly i'd rather just make everything from scratch whenever possible. make things as modular as possible otherwise it's a logistical nightmare

[reef basin]

I generally make them from scratch, because the place that makes them makes enough just for storage

[red sun]

"one or two" linked factories turns into a tangled web of dependencies

it's annoying to make everything from raw materials but it's so much less of a headache in the long term

[plucky plank]

why is the water in my water exractor not going into the pipe attached

[stray loom]

Drones if you have them. Otherwise try to make them in situ from what you have nearby

Oil based products are the only ones I really bother doing any heavy transport logistics for

[shrewd lagoon]

I'm just trying to figure out turbo motors rn and if I were to make everything in one place it would take like all the resources in the game save for like stone and uranium

[wicked nacelle]

If you have a good existing train highway then low volume works great over trains and it saves power, too. but drones are best for most people

[shrewd lagoon]

my current logistics network is actually in shambles, I have no idea how I've gotten this far 😭 Theres one train for rubber and plastic to the main factory and one for aluminium for radio parts and thats basically it

do you just make new trains for every part and put them on the same line or make separate rails?

[wicked nacelle]

if you make a 2-rail highway system you can just attach a new station to existing rail basically forever

[stray loom]

A 2 lane signalized rail network can handle a ton of trains before it starts to break down from traffic

[wicked nacelle]

and even then just optimizing interchanges is usually the solution.

or drag a new bypass rail through a small area

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397239552850001960/image.png?ex=6881003c&is=687faebc&hm=bdeb3dab14e07b4f841bd67b64e67b9ed42589deaa167369943f0ad8073e0188& imagine pulling rail for each train 😮

[idle monolith]

Does someone have a design idea for a BIG factory

[shrewd lagoon]

seems like a proper rail network is the move then i guess, better get started

[shrewd lagoon]

good lord

[prime oriole]

I think a just destroyed 20 nobolisks by deconstructing the box they were in.

[stray loom]

It's a big project but once it's done it makes everything else so much easier

[wicked nacelle]

Don't think of it as "building a rail network" -- if you build it the right way, you can just incrementally build it as you need it and it never feels like a huge deal

[idle monolith]

Anyone?

[wicked nacelle]

Just connect things as you need them but then as you build it you'll realize you just "magically" have access to the things you want by just building a little bit of rail to connect your new stuff

[wicked nacelle]

I mean sure... it's my game 🙂

[idle monolith]

Okay

[stray loom]

Yeah. Build it out in stages instead of trying to do it all at once. That way lies madness and suffering

[idle monolith]

What should I do

[shrewd lagoon]

i mean i have like 6 separate factories rn so I feel like I may as well just hook it all up now so I don't have to bother with tractors and such anymore

[wicked nacelle]

whatever sounds fun 🙂

[idle monolith]

And that is?

[smoky forge]

progression for exaple

[wicked nacelle]

just remember don't put the stations ON the highway -- make it just like an interstate where each factory is an offramp and the stations are there. Make sure you understand signals -- they're not hard but they seem intimidating until you do

[smoky forge]

building factories...

[smoky forge]

signals are the final leap of understanding trains

if u understamd em u own trains lol

[stray loom]

Turn all the oil on the map into fuel and burn it in fuel generators

[smoky forge]

no

never did honestly

[idle monolith]

Nah I already have factory I need design

[smoky forge]

only trains

[stray loom]

No because choo choo mfer

[cedar portal]

This is important! Trains take the shortest distance, and will route right through other stations if it thinks it's faster. So stations always need to be branched off the main line or your trains will get stuck.

[smoky forge]

alr, you should try drones

[smoky forge]

oh that line from ADA LOL

[stray loom]

One of my favorites lol

[feral venture]

what can i do with Heavy Oil resedue

[wicked nacelle]

That's almost true -- they will try to route a little bit around stations they won't stop in. There's an artificial 100m penalty to the distance for a path that routes through a station they aren't stopping at

[smoky forge]

you should hear some modded ones lmao

[wicked nacelle]

you make diluted fuel

[cedar portal]

It's such a small penalty that I've never seen it actually be enough to work, so I preetend that rule doesn't exist 😄

[wicked nacelle]

but in the short term if it's a waste product, you just turn it into petroleum coke and sink it

[idle monolith]

I‘m thinking about hexagons but I don’t know what material or in which order

[wicked nacelle]

if you have a station that's the "short path" but you realize you want to extend the rail beyond it, you can build a bypass track around it that is a little bit longer and the trains will route around your station. It didn't used to be true and it was annoying - they'd still try to go through the station

[idle monolith]

Hm?

I need a design for the outside of a nuclear pasta factory

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397242003397279796/image.png?ex=68810285&is=687fb105&hm=37991a0dd05f48050d513e85fca4f1a0cf67bc52481f2598a66bb58dfa2a9454& this bypass lane didn't used to work, but now it does

[idle monolith]

I got a good backpack I don’t need another one

I got a normal puma backpack

Das war die Werbung

Ye

[hoary rose]

question where did you guys build your computer factory at?

[boreal musk]

grassy plain

[hoary rose]

ok

[daring stag]

grassy knoll for me

[crisp needle]

uhmm a quick questoin can some1 log on my server and remove a hub in my old base since its like 1500 meters away :3

[wicked nacelle]

just hit the respawn button 🙂

or build a hypertube cannon 🙂

[crisp needle]

i am on tier 2...

and running 1500 meters when i have to make the base its not easy

[fast cove]

Hey guys the game is on sale on epic games is it worth buying?

[daring stag]

yea

[wicked nacelle]

no we all hate it

[wicked nacelle]

have you played other factory building games?

[fast cove]

Nope

But starting to get into engineering so i figured i could give it a try

[daring stag]

subnautica?

[fast cove]

Nope

[wicked nacelle]

have you played any work simulator games?

[shrewd lagoon]

tangentially related but if you slide and jump you can build up a lot of momentum, 1.5km shouldn't take too long

[fast cove]

Tycoon in Roblox if that counts

[red sun]

i mean you're only really going to get one response from this server

[crisp needle]

its uphill terain

[fathom shuttle]

💀

[crisp needle]

i feel like that

[red sun]

okay let me ask this - do you like base building and problem solving that may or may not involve math?

[wicked nacelle]

dunno that one. anyhow, the game is well made and has a decent enough story to push you through the steps and it has a good introduction/tutorial to get you started and such. But it'll take you longer than the refund period to finish the tutorial so ... you're kind of in it if you buy it

[wary parrot]

just unlocked trains and have made a few blue prints just been wondering where should the trains go and how to intergrate them into my factories like whats there purpose

[hoary rose]

how long can a single rail be?

[fast cove]

Yea, I’m not creative but I like building.

[boreal musk]

12 foundations long

[hoary rose]

alright

[wicked nacelle]

trains are great for sending large quantities of items long distances. so plastic/rubber is great. so is aluminum.

[wary parrot]

ok so to like the oil stuff

[wicked nacelle]

100% that's a great use for them.

[stoic island]

is there a way to auto connect power in blueprints?

[red sun]

if you like sandbox games and puzzle games, there's a decent chance you'll like satisfactory. this game does require a fair level of patience, though - not so much waiting but more finding solutions to issues you might have

if you can deal with that i say yeah give it a shot

[fast cove]

I like the challenge, thanks for the help

[wicked nacelle]

Here's the outgoing train station(s) for my main aluminum factory https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397246296137535579/image.png?ex=68810684&is=687fb504&hm=ef14da0d8f5007a3fe246ad7db4d4bd0bed9aaf6cf2a003e4dcea775fa0d0314&

[red sun]

no problemos, hope you have fun if you decide to go for it :)

[wary parrot]

damn

[crisp needle]

i hope u mean train

[wicked nacelle]

I put a bunch of "train station" parts at the front of many of my stations so that different trains can pick up parts on different car positions based on where they are dropping off. it's not necessary but I find it useful

[wary parrot]

can trains go up and down?

[wicked nacelle]

slowly -- they can follow a 2M ramp

[wary parrot]

ok

[wicked nacelle]

I tend to build helix structures when I want them to go up a cliff, for example

[shrewd lagoon]

do you guys normally make entirely separate trains for different parts? or use the same train with a bunch of freight cars (if all the parts go to the same factory)

[wicked nacelle]

I have blueprints for building those out quickly

[wicked nacelle]

4 freight cars on a train is very easy to handle both in terms of rail lengths between signals as well as station sizes and only needing one engine to pull

[fast cove]

Is there a big difference between epic game and steam when playing this game?

[wicked nacelle]

Buy on whichever is cheaper -- steam if they're the same

only difference is multiplayer crossplay -- steam is SLIGHTLY better

[shrewd lagoon]

I like having my games on steam for the achievements but thats just personal preference
(also cdkeys often has them cheaper than anywhere else)

[reef basin]

not really, apart from devs getting much more money if you buy on epic

[wicked nacelle]

oh, they don't charge you unreal engine costs for selling on epic... I guess that sort of makes sense

[crisp needle]

u cant say that loud

[red sun]

that and like 99% of my games are on steam, just makes more sense to have them all in one place

[reef basin]

that, and having only 12% cut, compared to Steam's 30%

[reef basin]

why not? it's known fact

[wicked nacelle]

because people love to hate on epic -- ruins the narrative.

[daring stag]

with all the stuff I heard about the swamp I can say I went in over prepared

great music and atmosphere tho

[red sun]

better that than the alternative

[open pollen]

I just use steam cause it’s where most of my other games are so it’s convenient 😆

[red sun]

yup. that and everyone i'd play with also uses steam

[wicked nacelle]

but they can start an epic session... which is why it's not a big deal where you buy it

and of course dedicated servers don't use either for sessions

[rustic otter]

i only have epic for fortnite but i dont even play that anymore

[red sun]

not just this game, some games don't have epic/steam crossplay

[open pollen]

There is no such thing as overprepared

[wicked nacelle]

for suire, but you can make per-game decisions 🙂

[red sun]

true, but it just makes more sense to me to have them all in the same place

that and i just prefer steam's UI

[reef basin]

I have all my games in one place - my computer 🙂

[wicked nacelle]

I've never really had an issue with that other than I have a couple games I paid $2 for on steam that I had forgotten I'd gotten for free on epic

[daring stag]

the green stingers are annoying tho never know when they are dead or jumped somewhere else

[red sun]

i'll be honest, the only reason i've ever used epic is for the free games they give out

[fathom shuttle]

Let’s gooo #screenshots message

[true mulch]

"epic bad" in the big 2025 💔

[fathom shuttle]

With the 20% epic rewards it can be a good deal
My bank has a credit card with 20% off on video game purchases so I can basically buy games 40% off this way lol

[true mulch]

that's huuuge, I hope those power plants are overclocked

[red sun]

very nice ||what is that aspect ratio||

[fathom shuttle]

Fully overclocked because I will never be building 150 of them

[fathom shuttle]

Huh someone noticed
4:3

[reef basin]

I don't understand why people don't build the extractors directly in front of the nuclear plants... so much time wasted building gigantic rows of pipes

[true mulch]

what bank gives a discount on VIDEOGAMES? 😭 I have to pay a fat Euro currency conversion fee

[red sun]

that does sound sweet i can't lie

[reef basin]

get a better bank 😛

[red sun]

never seen a bank give you discounts on video games

[fathom shuttle]

It’s a cash back reward, dont use it much tho because im broke lol

[true mulch]

yeah exactly, it's a bit better to build modules of 2 NPP + 5 extractors (or how it works out with overclocking)

[red sun]

ahhhh that makes sense

still neat though

[feral venture]

Oil question: ||what is a good spot for a Power plant with fuel? I had the spot in the Mushroom biom in mind, around 3000, 2200 cords.||

[true mulch]

you don't need to spoiler that

[fathom shuttle]

Blue crater is unrivaled

[true mulch]

anywhere that has oil and water works really

[wicked nacelle]

near compacted coal ingredients 🙂

[true mulch]

you don't need anything else for diluted fuel

[fathom shuttle]

Blue crater is an easy 300GW

[feral venture]

yall have a spot for that?

[true mulch]

if you want to make turbofuel then the lake forest

[feral venture]

blue crater where is that?

[true mulch]

east of grass fields

[fathom shuttle]

It’s the big lake in the south east of the map, south of the swamp

[feral venture]

oh yeah i menat that spot

[stoic island]

asking again

[sturdy pivot]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/3/31/Biome_Map.jpg?5a7a1a

[feral venture]

thanks!!

[fathom shuttle]

Nope

[feral venture]

just make them so you have one point to connect after placement

[fathom shuttle]

It looks cooler tbh

[reef basin]

I mean yeah, "I built it for looks" is always a valid reason

it's just that so many people complain how they had to build so many pipes for nuclear, when they themselves chose to build it in this weird way 😄

[wicked nacelle]

I've fully silica-ized my 8500 bauxite/m aluminum factory and I'm STILL out of casings. and I'm even doing alclad casings which are almost not worth doing but I had to

and moved to some fuel fused frames

but then I have nitrogen issues 😮

[fathom shuttle]

Nitrogen is pretty easily to transport or are you using all of it?

[wicked nacelle]

the latter

[fathom shuttle]

Sheesh, maybe if you have some SAM to spare you can make nitrogen gas but it’s so not worth it

[open pollen]

But-but how?

[wicked nacelle]

late game stuff LOOOOOVES the casings

[fathom shuttle]

Wait are not you using the heat fused frames?

[open pollen]

Phase 5 does im guessing?

[wicked nacelle]

mixed

[fathom shuttle]

Why? It saves 33% on aluminum and nitrogen

[prisma yoke]

i made a tierlist of how annoying i think satisfactory enemies are but i cant decide if it would fit in better in #screenshots or #satisfactory-memes (because its not really a screenshot or a meme)

[wicked nacelle]

I'm post-story just doing personal goals now...

[wicked nacelle]

both is fine 🙂

[willow glen]

do memes imo (either is fine)

[open pollen]

You had me worried about my aluminum set up and its output for a second 😆

[fathom shuttle]

Don’t worry about it too much, it’s super easy to expand

[wicked nacelle]

the story is a "count" goal not a "rate" goal, so you can beat the story with any production level above zero

[cedar portal]

What causes Max Cons to vary? Shouldn't that be stable? It's the max power draw of all machines added up? What's causing those dips?
#screenshots message

[open pollen]

Oh I know. I’m slow as a snail at this game and make higher tier stuff at lower rates lol

I just fiddle and take forever to do stuff so I see no point in making my set ups too too crazy since it’ll eventually get there

[fathom shuttle]

Apparently I can double my plutonium output if I use instant plutonium cell…

[wicked nacelle]

but do you want that?

[fathom shuttle]

Nope, but it’s nice to have as a future option to easily expand power

[open pollen]

Do you use geothermal at all? If not then that dip means atleast 1 generator isn’t being filled correctly so it occasionally shuts off briefly

[fathom shuttle]

Though I’m fundamentally limited by the amounts of PCC I’m making so I’ll need to expand it first

[south cliff]

That's max prod not max cons

[willow glen]

Impressive that you’ve gotten that far, my megabase save only uses 3500/min, and it’s got atrocious FPS. Never quite made it to the point I could maximize phase 5 parts, looks like my stopping point was 150 modular engines/min. Phase 5 parts were still at 5/min

[open pollen]

Damn I can’t read

[cedar portal]

But the blue line is max consumption, that shouldn't change if power generation dips. That's capacity, which is nice and steady.

[fathom shuttle]

Slooped machines with variable power consumption do that

Once the machine stops production it display the non slooped max consumption

[prisma yoke]

interesting

[open pollen]

Doesn’t the machine that makes nuclear pasta go up and down with power consumption as well?

[fathom shuttle]

Yea

[open pollen]

So that could be it

[cedar portal]

Hmmm... shouldn't they be using the peak energy required for all the machines with variable power draw? That line is supposed to be the MAX after all.

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397255174531059712/image.png?ex=68810ec9&is=687fbd49&hm=0b979b26286481359028a17232b515890c3b80f92e35b7ce72016f00e648dede& my warp drive factory -- 80/m and it seems stable but at this tier it can take a while for upstream production to stabilize

[fathom shuttle]

If you slooped it then it is

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, don't think too hard about it.

[fathom shuttle]

Yes it does
What I’m saying is that once the machine stops production, the max consumption goes back to the non slooped max consumption

[cedar portal]

Well thats just broken. I don't like it. 😄

[fathom shuttle]

So a slooped quantum encoder will display 8GW when it’s working, and 2GW when it stops

It’s annoying to have when you’re using slooped converters for dd

[cedar portal]

Thats a lot. I've got 20 going now, could probably push to 40 without too much trouble but 80... impreessive.

[wicked nacelle]

it's 80 with sloops, so it's really just 40x2

[willow glen]

wait till you try to use conveyer throughout monitors on items less than 30/min; wildly inaccurate displays

[cedar portal]

Mine is 10 with sloops, so same setup 🙂

[round shell]

Doing the maths for the recycled plastic/rubber chains gets me every time
Simpler than it appears to be, right, you can consume 30 * n(refineries) of fuel on recycled recipes and that produces 60 * n(refineries) of product and the surplus circles back to feed in

[fathom shuttle]

It works fine if the machine is outputting 1 item per minute, not 2 per 2 minutes

[cedar portal]

Yeah, I wish it had the ability to scale the timeframe and cycle the graphs.

[fathom shuttle]

Just do it in multiple of 600

For example for a 2400 plastic rubber/ you’ll make 1200 plastic for the rubber refineries and vice versa

The odd numbered refineries/output feed into each other

[naive pendant]

Yes, the recycled recipe loop isn't that complicated if you calculate for a single output (purely plastic). Just 2:1 ratio of refineries.

[fathom shuttle]

It works for two outputs as well

[naive pendant]

Yea. Just less intuitive for me how the math works in that case. Easier to start with the pure version.

[fathom shuttle]

Just checked my nuclear pasta storage, got 10k in the tank xD

[prisma yoke]

I could've sworn that you used to be able to make conveyor belt lifts where the rail part was rotated however you wanted as long as the lift went through a floor hole. did they fix that? is what im saying making any sense

[wicked nacelle]

I tend to just make 2 rows of 16 refineries -- 8 of each side are pure profit and the others supply the other side and have a smart splitter for any extra "profit" -- You don't have to fully fuel it and it will adjust production based on demand

[cedar portal]

Question! Where do you get your Dark Crystals for the warp drive machines? I generate all the residue as a byproduct from making the supposition oscs. So I avoid needing any SAM. At least for that step.

[fathom shuttle]

Residue from other machines I guess, and dark matter trap

[wicked nacelle]

I have the entire map drained of coal and make either pink or turbo diamonds wherever I can. I also send all excess oil to diamonds. Then time crystals then dark matter crystals

[fathom shuttle]

Dark matter trap is very SAM efficient

[wicked nacelle]

the diamond one and the time crystal one are essentially identical

[round shell]

That was the ratio I figured out yeah

[wicked nacelle]

but time crystals are just easier to move around

[cedar portal]

It is, I was wondering if you make dark matter residue from SAM or get it from other processes?

[wicked nacelle]

yes

[fathom shuttle]

How much do you wanna make?

[round shell]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wicked nacelle]

I mean, I obviously don't just throw away the byproduct stuff, but it's not nearly enough so I supplement it with "fresh"

I tend to just use the waste for the "inefficient" recipe because it's easier to just sink to that right away vs routing time crystals everywhere. then I make efficient dark crystals at a central location

[fathom shuttle]

You can have a really big alien power matrix factory if you need some cheap dark matter crystals

[cedar portal]

I wanted to make 10 warp drives/min (20 with loops) so that takes 400 dark crystals/min. I found that if I loop my Quantum Encoder it can make 23 supposition oscillators and 590 residue, which converts to 470 crystals, enough for both the drives and to feed back into the quantum encoder. So I don't need to import any.

[wicked nacelle]

Interesting

[cedar portal]

I throw out 2.5 supposition oscillators/min but it's a cheeap cost for all the residue

[wicked nacelle]

it takes 6 crystals to make one though. You sure about this

[fathom shuttle]

All the nuclear pasta I saved up yields an insane highly amount of coupons, almost 100!! Isn’t scaling so fun

[cedar portal]

Wait, those number are wrong... edited. 🙂 I was looking at the wrong machine

[fathom shuttle]

I’m making 1236

Something’s very wrong with my thermal propulsion rockets factory

[wicked nacelle]

This is my dedicated dark crystal factory portion -- though many are made elsewhere too: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397258554129256498/image.png?ex=688111ef&is=687fc06f&hm=7d5f6bda5a228e9c5c24feed499fa52097e99bd394f7ef560f59dc7552cc7217&

close up converters are just making time crystals -- I transport some diamonds in and some time crystals -- in hindsight I'd do all time crystal transport

This is just to feed the 1600/m direct input to warp drives

[cedar portal]

@wicked nacelle There, screenchots so I don't mess up the numbers again. 🙂
I sink 3.6 extra superposition oscillators.
#screenshots message

[willow glen]

I tried making dark crystals off site and all it did was force me to sink more; instead I’d rather do it on site so it can self-balance between the two dark crystal recipes without waste

[wicked nacelle]

I don't get how that's a net positive to build S.O. out of dark crystals to try to get dark crystals

[willow glen]

If you use the Time Crystal dark crystal recipe (Dark Matter Trap) you end up with surplus dark matter residue. For superpositional oscillators specifically it’s 10 extra residue per oscillator

[cedar portal]

Thee quantum encoder and the particle accelerator are loopess, which boostss it way up.

With a looped particle accelerator 5 residue gives 4 crystals. So the 590 residue produces 470 crystals, enough to run everything

[wicked nacelle]

but if you're using time crystals to generate the initial dark crystals and more time crystals to then use that reside to build dark crystals, aren't you better just building the dark crystals directly? But beyond that I don't have alclad to throw at the problem

[plucky seal]

Man I hate coupon scaling, I’ve just been feeding it DNA so I can get any semblance of tickets

[wicked nacelle]

I have great news for you!!!

[stiff ibex]

i think it eventually stops scaling

[wicked nacelle]

coupon scaling stops at 240,000,000 points per ticket!!!

[prisma yoke]

wow! just 240,000,000 points per ticket!

[plucky seal]

I am uh, not close to that number

[wicked nacelle]

which means you can guarantee 2 tickets per minute FOREVER!!!!

[fathom shuttle]

I fed it like 3200 and only got 112 tickets out of it so I stopped caring about dna capsules

[wicked nacelle]

but you have to do a MUCH better job than me to get there

[fathom shuttle]

The good news is that I already have enough coupons to buy all the statues (I think)

[willow glen]

Is that how much the full map utilization generates? Ballistic warp drive is only 2.895M

[prisma yoke]

is there a maximum coupon cost for dna capsules?

[fathom shuttle]

Already bought all the architecture and signs

[cedar portal]

When i say crystals I mean dark matter crystals. I get my time crystals from oil.

[fathom shuttle]

Nope I’m pretty sure it keeps going for ever

[stiff ibex]

turning HOR into pet coke?

[wicked nacelle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/AWESOME_Sink/Theoretical_maximum_of_points the 100% non-overclock non-underclock build is right at 480M points/m

[prisma yoke]

dam⁠n. im quite fond of dna capsules for tickets but its already at 27 per ticket (although im double slooping so its not too bad)

[wicked nacelle]

it's better to use straight oil if you just want to get diamonds. there's a cost to the "waste" resin going the coke route -- if you want the resin, then great. But if you don't, it's better to just use straight oil

[cedar portal]

Just using particle accelerators to turn oil directly into diamonds

[plucky plank]

if im sending 600 water into 30 refineries should i manifold it or load balance

[stiff ibex]

oh yeah i forgot that recipe exists

[fathom shuttle]

Oh I found the issue with my thermal propulsion rockets accidentally

I’m not making enough packaged nitrogen for the turbo motors

[leaden ether]

A little of both IMHO. Like split the 600 into three 200 pipes then center feed three separate manifols.

[plucky plank]

👍

[stiff ibex]

wont matter as long as the inputs of all those are equal or less to 600

but id split it before the manifold anyway either into 2 or 3

[plucky plank]

i have two floors of refineries so this kinda sucks

[plucky plank]

alr

[hasty lodge]

how do i join a friends game (epic games)

[subtle swan]

new player here, what do hyper tubes do? is it worth unlocking quickly?

[willow glen]

They move you, and only you. I never use them personally, slide jumping is faster than setting them up. Some people like to make a cannon by chaining entrances, I suggest trying that

worth rushing? Nah

[plucky seal]

Yeah I only use them for the cannon, I used to use them for my factory tower but it’s just so much less of a pain to use an elevator

[plucky plank]

if you have factories far from your main area then setting a cannon at each point is useful and saves alot of time

[stiff ibex]

whats the benefit of doing that over a portal system?

[willow glen]

absolutely none lol but portals are over a hundred hours after hypertubes

[smoky forge]

dont get to hyped about unlocking them, they use much power, but if you can cover the power it is the best travel methode in the game .can bringing you from one end of the map to the other in under like 10 seconds

[plucky seal]

It’s way cheaper and sooner

[fast cove]

How can I play with my friend we both on epic game

[smoky forge]

just go into your singleplayer world and invite him

either with ip methode or via epic

[fast cove]

Oh like outside of the game invite?

[smoky forge]

no inside

[fast cove]

We tried

[smoky forge]

you get an ip adress and you send it to him

[fast cove]

Oh so no epic

Ip address

[smoky forge]

you can do it without epic if that doesnt work

[leaden ether]

Not just power but you need to constantly feed portals SIngularity cells constantly as well. They are neat but a pain to setup and keep running.

[fast cove]

What is session ID

[smoky forge]

i was not talking about that...

[smoky forge]

you need to copy that id and give it to your friend

[fast cove]

Ohh ok

It worked thanks

[leaden ether]

Your lack of mentioning it in the conversation I found to be lacking information that the asker needed to know.

[smoky forge]

your lack of reading to who i answered with this message is also a thing

[leaden ether]

Eeep, ah I see. Ugh, SOrry

[smoky forge]

np 🤣

[wicked nacelle]

happens to everyone 🙂 but it still sucks when it happens to you 🙂

[smoky forge]

ah 🙂

so we using this smiley then 🙂

alright 🙂

[reef basin]

no, it's technically infinite

[smoky forge]

greeny isnt that your favourite smiley🙂 ?

nothing

way out of context lol

[lean ferry]

pls help I made turbofuel powerplant im using diluted packaged fuel- one of the refineries arent buffering correctly theres barely any water but all the rest are fully buffered

[smoky forge]

either lack of water, flow of water or buggy flow of liquids

[lean ferry]

it was lack of water.

[smoky forge]

its nearly all the time those reasons

[smoky forge]

called it

[lean ferry]

forgot to overclock the extractor

[mortal ginkgo]

mk5 pipes wen

[lean ferry]

but now I need to buffer both canisters cuz the thing thats packaging water dont have enough, cuz not enough diluted packaged fuel

[smoky forge]

real

[wicked nacelle]

lack of water extractor blueprints sucks 😦

[smoky forge]

make a 2nd one with them already overlocked

[wicked nacelle]

what are you buffering? what are youd oing?

[lean ferry]

diluted packaged fuel for turbofuel powerplant. when I unpackage the fuel, it goes directly to water packager to be recycled

however I didnt make enough, so I didnt make enough packaged fuel, which means not enough canisters, not enough for water to be packaged

so I needa throw more canisters

[worthy junco]

What is a good way to not get lost/build yourself into a corner? Was building some basic processing and realized its all too close together almost instantly

[true mulch]

you need 100 canisters per machine + some extra depending on how long your belts are

[wicked nacelle]

yep, that makes sense. I thought you were somehow using fluid buffers :)_

[lean ferry]

im buffering it im throwing in some more canisters I have more than enough water

[wicked nacelle]

I build each set of things in a row and don't build other things along the space for that row. so I can just always make the row longer

[lean ferry]

once the diluted packaged fuel refineries are working well, I should be able to get rid of the buffer

[true mulch]

are you building a megafactory or just a separate factory? unless you're building in a cave, you can always just go up

[lean ferry]

build vertically 🙂

[stiff ibex]

yo i need a train nerd to explain to me how path signals work

[stray loom]

Leave yourself at least 2 foundations of space in between different productions. As you build stuff you'll get a better feel for how much space different machines take up and start to get an eye for how much you can fit into a given spot

[worthy junco]

Im trying to build some basic stuff to even get to tier 3 xD

[reef basin]

make them in small loops of 1:1:1, then you don't need to care about canisters

[lean ferry]

nah c uz guys the weird thing is

[true mulch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/qgy9z0/signal_logic_rules/

[fathom shuttle]

How much space do I need for 12 particle accelerators + like 150 machines?

[worthy junco]

I think im just too used to having a top down view

[lean ferry]

the refinery before and after are fully buffered

[wicked nacelle]

if multiple trains could use a block of track at the same time (but not always) then a path signal is "smart" and lets them say "hey, I'm going straight" and another train says "hey me too" and it lets them both go. But if one says "Hey I'm turning left in front of you" then it stops one train until the other is done

[lean ferry]

but the middle one only has 8/2 packaged water

[true mulch]

the wiki has measurements of all buildings

[wicked nacelle]

if you are going to use path signals ALL the entrances to a block need to be path signals

[stiff ibex]

yeah but trying to use them in game i dont understand why they have directional arrows or if they go at the entrance of a junction or at the intersection

[wicked nacelle]

say you're building a standard 4 way interchange for a 2-way rail system (looks like a plus sign but with pairs of rails)-- each of the 4 entrances have a path signal, each of the 4 exits get a block signal

[true mulch]

signals prevent trains driving in the opposite direction (past their back), unless you build signals on both directions of the same node (which is a rare special case)

[lean ferry]

the refinery is on life support but atleast its working well

[wicked nacelle]

@stiff ibex remember, you can always just build it with block signals first. path signals are just an optimization

[lean ferry]

like its always stuck on 6/2 packaged water

[stiff ibex]

yeah i want to get the hang of them, i feel like i shouldve done this like 400 hours ago

[stray loom]

Something like a 24x10 area for the accelerators and you can probably fit the rest on another floor the same size underneath

2 rows of 6

[stiff ibex]

im planning a 2 way rail around the map, and im thinking of having one rail clockwise only and the other one counter clockwise only

unless theres a better system

[lean ferry]

im gonna hand feed a packager rn to buffer it a bit

[reef basin]

make rails from A to B as needed. Don't build a system in advance

[stiff ibex]

i kinda need to for what im planning, its gonna be a major project

[wicked nacelle]

Just build it like an interstate. No reason to build it "'around the map" just connect what you have however makes sense. as you make more factories in different places just connect that to the existing rail and it all just "magically" works -- you really don't need to use path signals at all right now. they don't change how you build your rail

[wicked nacelle]

it's not easier if you do the rail first vs do it as you need it -- and as your plans inevitably change, you won't have a bunch of wasted rail you built

just make sure you plan enough space for the stations -- that's the real headache is when you don't

[hoary rose]

i am about to go crazy i have to place so much rail down

[fathom shuttle]

Oh no no no no there is something very wrong my pipes here

[stiff ibex]

my thinking is though, im gonna end up needing all the resources from every part of the map, so why not set up a central rail infrastructure i can just tie into easier later?

[lean ferry]

bro ts is confusing me

[reef basin]

no matter what the project is, I'd still recommend not building rails in advance. Building them as needed gives you much more freedom to build them as optimal as you need

[lean ferry]

its says it doesnt have enough packaged water even though im making 150

im making 150 and it needs 150 but its saying it doesnt have enouh packaged water

[wicked nacelle]

You'll end up with that if you just connect the rail to each new place as you go -- but it will actually be the rail you need vs the rail you thought you needed 100 hours ago

[stiff ibex]

ok that makes sense

[lean ferry]

what does it want bro

[wicked nacelle]

and you'll also learn how you like to have it set up by using it a bunch of times vs hating the whole thing you put down you only have to hate parts of it

[smoky forge]

belt speed maby?

[lean ferry]

mk 3 belts its 270

[stray loom]

Do you already have the factories you need to connect built and running? If so start to hook them up. If not, build those first

[wicked nacelle]

screeny?

[fathom shuttle]

Bro what is going on here, there is a pipe with a pump on it that says headlift is 7m, I flushed the network and check the headlight now it’s 35.4m??

[lean ferry]

should I send a screenshot of it?

[stiff ibex]

👍

[lean ferry]

the middle one isnt buffering correctly even though im making enough for all of them #screenshots message

I manually buffered it but its slowly slowly decreasing

[fathom shuttle]

You know what I’m not gonna investigate it

[stray loom]

Only bit of pre-planning for trains is deciding how big you want them and then stick to that size. 1 engine to 3 freight cars is going to cover most needs and be just fine going up hills

[lean ferry]

so after like 2hours its gonna be struggling again

[fathom shuttle]

It is what it is, if something is broken I’ll check the piping

[fathom shuttle]

Just do a packager-refinery-packager loop

[lean ferry]

thats what im doing

[stiff ibex]

its the same speed up to 4 freight cars though right?

[lean ferry]

its not getting enough packaged water even though im making enough

2 clocked at 100 percent 1 clocked at 50, needs 150 a min

[fathom shuttle]

You can blueprint it dude and put the in the same place

[lean ferry]

im packaging 150 a min

[lean ferry]

not gonna have enough canisters to recycle

[fathom shuttle]

You only need 100 to recycled that way

[wicked nacelle]

You should probably just over-produce water. Have the empty belt and the full belts coming in/out just be full. I can't tell what rate that is in the screenshot. If you overproduce you know you're good.

[lean ferry]

i cant overproduce

because how am I gonna get the extra canisters

if I overproduce im gonna have to overproduce diluted packaged to get more canisters

and then the problem still lies with not having enough water

[wicked nacelle]

I guess I meant "flood the belts" and use the buffers in the buildings to store a bit extra

[lean ferry]

thats what I did

i gave it 80 packaged, and after like 15 mins its going down to 75 and 70

btw which one should be the underclocked one the one at the end, middle or front?

I dont know what this game is doing the other one next to it is buffered perfectly fine and it still wants to buffer it more

[wicked nacelle]

I usually put a priority merger attached to an empty container maker and prefer the re-used empty container side

that way you know your empties are perfect 🙂

[fathom shuttle]

You can also totally avoid that by just using a packager loop in the same blueprint and not have to worry about buffers

[wicked nacelle]

though obviously for a closed loop system you don't need that

[stray loom]

It will start to slow down on really steep slopes but if you avoid that it's mostly the same. Will be slightly slower to hit top speed but not enough to really matter

[lean ferry]

check this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397270029791395840/image.png?ex=68811c9f&is=687fcb1f&hm=ff88b64a087b1d42c30d573874eeefcf056a69021b40ac52a6f4c6ee2bad59dd&

[wicked nacelle]

basically your screenshot doesn't really show enough for us to tell you exactly what's wrong with your system

[lean ferry]

wait mb

wrong link

just check screenshots

[fathom shuttle]

😭 dawg no need to torture yourself

[lean ferry]

bruh i cant link it to screenshots its not working

[true mulch]

use copy message link, not image link

[vague flame]

were dismantle crates removed in 1.1?

they never spawn when I dismantly something with a full inventory

[wicked nacelle]

no but it drops them in existing ones if they're nearby I think?

chcek your map

[vague flame]

And how does this work when there are none?

[lean ferry]

#screenshots message this time it should work, middle one is struggling

[vague flame]

Does it just spawn a new one?

[lean ferry]

there we go 🙂

[prisma yoke]

in the gameplay options you can set where dismantle crates should spawn (near the player or near the machine) and if dismantle crates should be merged

by default they spawn near the player if there are none nearby and they are set to merge

iirc

[wicked nacelle]

@lean ferry I'm really confused how you're confused. Either you're making enough water or you're not. You have a manifold, so you have to wait for it to reach equilibrium, but once it does you're done. Is your packager working at 100%?

[lean ferry]

guys im gonna experiment by underclocking the middle one and setting the last one to normak

[fathom shuttle]

Wait you’re in phase 4 and doing packaged diluted fuel?

[bleak pollen]

I love it when my side factor consumes almost as much power as my main ❤️‍🩹

[cedar portal]

@wicked nacelle Do you even out your warp drive production line so you have an even line on your sink or just let them go in all random? 😄
#screenshots message

[lean ferry]

its working at 150, its making 150 2 of them need 60 a min one of them is underclocked to 50 percent. for some reason the manifold aint manifolding and the one at the end is buffering before the first one 😭

[wicked nacelle]

I'm going to NOW 😛

[lean ferry]

the first and the last one arefully buffered but the middle one aint

[cedar portal]

it just looks so satisfying!

[wicked nacelle]

are you sure you don't have F'd up belts hidden under splitters or something?

There's nothing about this that should be hard. Tear the whole thing down and rebuild it -- on foundations

[vague flame]

Is there a way to recover creates that are stuck in the map?

[wicked nacelle]

SCIM

[prisma yoke]

i use hypertubes sometimes

[lean ferry]

100 percent sure cuz its a blueprint and it was made with mk 3 belts

[prisma yoke]

i used to use them to clip into destructible rocks to get artifacts and stuff early too but they fixed that 😔

[vague flame]

lol

[lean ferry]

im gonna upg everything to mark 5 belts and buffer them and see ifi tmakes a difference

[vague flame]

didnt knew that was a thing back then

[wicked nacelle]

set the refineries to 1% for all of them and let it flood

[stray loom]

Don't do a manifold. Just make a discrete loop for each refinery

[lean ferry]

im scared my power network gonna die

[prisma yoke]

im pretty sure you can still use hypertubes to clip through terrain though. its probably even easier with the nudging update (peak update btw)

[lean ferry]

YO WTF

[stray loom]

Doesn't take up more space really and you'll never have to worry about the water side of things

[lean ferry]

i upgraded to mark 5 belts and everything is completely buffered

[stray loom]

As long as you can empty the fuel

[lean ferry]

😭

[wicked nacelle]

did you just not wait long enough?

[lean ferry]

i made it yesterday its been buffering for 3 hours

I think the packager was just too far

[wicked nacelle]

if your production matches your consumption, manifolds only fill as fast as the machines that should be working are offline.

[lean ferry]

and it was always gonna be like 1/m less

[wicked nacelle]

that's not a thing

[prisma yoke]

is there a limit to the number of dimensional depots you can make based on the number of mercer spheres on the map? or is that solved later in the game

[stray loom]

Hard limit yeah

[lean ferry]

ion even know at this point

they were 270/m belts when I upgraded to mark 5 they started working magically

[wicked nacelle]

yes, but that number is easily good enough to have everything you want in DD AND to have multiple DD's for common resources like concrete

[lean ferry]

is there a mod for synthetic mercer and sumersloop

[prisma yoke]

i realize thats probably fine but its gonna bother me a tiny bit anyway lol

[lean ferry]

it would be fun to like automate them even if they are realy expensive

[prisma yoke]

good to know, thanks

[wicked nacelle]

yes

[wicked nacelle]

the game has infinite resources, so any specific number of anything is free

[stray loom]

Rough off the top of my head there are ~300 mercers and you need like ~150 for the research

[wicked nacelle]

only rates have cost

[lean ferry]

not infinite

well like infinite time but only a specific number of factories can be made

like fully overclocked mk 3 miners still aint infinite

anyways after 30 min my power solved back at 9500mw 🙂

[naive palm]

Satisfactory ceases to have infinite resources if you consider your time + sanity (mental health) as a resource.

[wicked nacelle]

any count can be achieved and you can also make any other count as well of the same thing. That is the definition of free

only rates have cost

any number you want you can have. And you can also have double that.

[lean ferry]

I just remembered

that I have a trash can in my inventory..

[naive palm]

People don't want you to know: but you can just go in the forest and take the lizard doggos. They're free, nobody is around to stop you.

[wicked nacelle]

do you know how to use scim and how to upload your save file?

[vague flame]

I just found out so nvm

[prisma yoke]

Harvest.

[lean ferry]

quick question guys what tier 8 milestones dont need super computers cuz it takes rlly long to automate, I wnat to have stuff like drones, rocket fuel and etc before doing nuclear and particle accelerator

I have rcu automated

[stiff ibex]

whats the biggest rail junction able to fit in a blueprint?

[wicked nacelle]

I don't think any useful ones do.

[stray loom]

If you already got that then do the OC supercomputer alt. Just need cooling systems

[stiff ibex]

ah unfortunate

[reef basin]

eh, I'd still automate them

[lean ferry]

no like later

it would be easier with drones and other stuff

[stray loom]

Just throw down a machine, sloop and oc, and hand feed it lol

[reef basin]

drones don't help much, you can do the same with trains, belts or trucks... and you can just build near nodes to not need any of those

[frozen ingot]

automate everything!

t'is the FICSIT way

[lean ferry]

supercomputer expensive thog and will take ages, I want to do it but with drones and other stuff

[frozen ingot]

the logistics of how you do it doesn't really matter, you do you!

[lean ferry]

I woudl rather have an outpost factory near caterium, make the stuff there and ship it to another outpost factory

[frozen ingot]

drones are great!

[lean ferry]

im gonna check satisfactory tools and see how much of each raw resource I need

[leaden ether]

Drones are great :) Trains and Drones are the goats of long distance transportation.

Trains for high capacity, drones for low capacity high end items.

[lean ferry]

I guess your right @reef basin time to spend 2 hours automating supercomputers

It definetly is worth it tho and hey I can do nuclear power aswell

[wicked nacelle]

you basically have to automate everything other than elevator parts that arena't pasta

[remote wasp]

Only 2?

[fathom shuttle]

Automate 5/min, I regret making 20/min tbh

[lean ferry]

im making 2/m and slooping it to 4/m

[fathom shuttle]

You don’t actually need that many

Like a ISC of them will carry you through the game

[wicked nacelle]

just make sure you're automating enough to build up a storage container of extras so you can use them for elevator parts and building stuff

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I think you need 250 for space parts

[rocky rock]

Have there been any developer hints on 1.2 or when the dlc might be coming?

[wicked nacelle]

not since 1.0 came out

[lean ferry]

I was recording tractor path and it went well till the last turn where I fell off the road 💔

[wicked nacelle]

I don't think it's clear there will be a 1.2. 1.1 was basically the console release

[light drift]

Do you know if a mini-map has been added and if not, why not?

[lime ermine]

Console release hasn't happened

[wicked nacelle]

yes, but it was the feature set to support that

[reef basin]

console release is being developed separately by third-party

[cedar portal]

Any other old timers feel a bit conflicted over the introduction of sommersloops? I love them to death of course, but now I have cases where I had a huge factory building products all perfectly balanced... and now the majority of the machines are running at 4% because Ilooped three machines (the purple ones at the bottom) so now I have, complicated emotions about it. 🙂
#screenshots message

[rocky rock]

The biggest fix I want to see is for truck pathing, it's such a pain to set up and build roads that I never use them

[atomic siren]

Should be trains be going in the station this direction? #screenshots message

[reef basin]

that's because trucks are designed to work without roads. Building roads is excessive and not necessary

[frozen ingot]

the world comes with pre built roads too

[wicked nacelle]

the port is but changing it to have a controller-friendly interface and such was done in house. basically giving them an interface to integrate to

[bold vessel]

Have they released an estimate for console release?

[frozen ingot]

stomped down by decades of weird animals

[reef basin]

locomotive needs to dock to the station

[atomic siren]

so in this case the locomotive will be going in the opposite direction im facing?

[reef basin]

yeah

[atomic siren]

alright

[lean ferry]

bro

I recorded my tractor path well now its spastic whenever it autopilots

does it teleport often? cuz I have a feeling its gonna hinder my production

[frozen ingot]

post a video maybe in #1038092680493801533?

when you recorded the route was it nice and smooth?

are you a good driver? 😛

[lean ferry]

it was smooth, and I definetly am a good driver

except the tractor ai took the "faster way" and backed straight into the railing and fell off

and then like 2 seconds later it teleported

[frozen ingot]

maybe just leave it a while

it might sort itself out, they teleport when far away from the player, so if you're nearby, it might just be wonking out for some reason but it'll always correct itself

[lean ferry]

MY HMF FACTORY IS BACKED UP

LETS GOOOOO

[reef grotto]

W

[lean ferry]

what do I do now

sink the extra or make storage bigger im making 7.5 a sec (its slooped 1.5x)

[reef basin]

always sink

[lean ferry]

I have 40 coupons im rich 🙂

[reef grotto]

sink the overflow

[frozen ingot]

gotta get those coupons

[reef grotto]

i don't even have the sink unlocked and i've got 10 coupons 😭

[lean ferry]

auto sink overflow? or manually

[reef grotto]

what's the difference?

[lean ferry]

I have 2400 hmf

should I build more storage to get to 4800 and sink overflow?

because I have a feeling im gonna need it for phases and other stuff

[frozen ingot]

it's really more about production rate than it is about storage

[atomic siren]

anyone got ideas on how to connect this station up? Just gonna run a simple setup for now, 1 locomotive for the time being #screenshots message

[lean ferry]

if I calculate correctly, 5 hours I should have another industrial storage full

[reef grotto]

idk if you'll need for phases, but if i've learnt anything watching YT and playing the game myself, you'll end up needing a lot more than you think, and a good backup is always good

[frozen ingot]

one single industrial storage container is enough for pretty much any part imho

[silent aurora]

Get a smart splitter and sink it

[lean ferry]

its not gonna produce if its full is it

[lean ferry]

is 2400 hmf enough for phases and stuff

[frozen ingot]

except maybe concrete if you like building big

[frozen ingot]

that's what smart splitter for overflow is for

[lean ferry]

no thats the thing

[frozen ingot]

but also you might have missed my point 😄

[reef grotto]

for the for the station, do you need it to go in that specific direction?

[lean ferry]

im gonna sink the extra

but I dont know if 2400hmf is gonna be enough

and if I need more im gonna have to wait for it to produce more @frozen ingot and im impatient

[atomic siren]

Ideally but I could rebuild it if it means it's easier to build the surrounding tracks

[silent aurora]

Yes. And if you need more you should get smart splitters. It automatically dumps any overflow while storing stuff you meed

[reef grotto]

okay i know what you can do

[atomic siren]

but the train does need to travel south (the direction of the station)

[lean ferry]

yes I already have bro

im alr dumping my extra plastic, computers, rubber

ima do hmf aswell I have spare ai limiter

[frozen ingot]

so increase production then? and my point is that if you're automating stuff, it's more about the production rate of items, than how many you have stored

[reef grotto]

2 ways to do it, you could loop it in the north and connect it from the north, or you rebuild the track to come from the south and loop it around and connect it that way

[frozen ingot]

i only ever think about stored items as ingredients for building

[lean ferry]

thats what im tryna say

[frozen ingot]

except maybe project parts but that's only if i'm being lazy and not properly automating them 😛

[lean ferry]

I have enough for personal use and building but idk if 2400hmf is enough for project parts

and if it isnt I might aswell increase storage now instead of waiting hours later

get my point?

[atomic siren]

alright, might just rebuild the station

[frozen ingot]

and i'm saying if that isn't enough for you it'd probably be better to increase production

rather than wait for more storage containers to fill up

[lean ferry]

7.5 is more than enoughg

[frozen ingot]

it's a bit of a trap

[lean ferry]

if I want to keep up with project parts im gonna have to get like 40/min

[frozen ingot]

and you and spend ages just moving things around instead of letting everything flow automatically whilst you're pondering how to make your next factory look awesome 😄

[lean ferry]

fairs

[frozen ingot]

40HMF/min would def be a lot 😛

[versed plinth]

How many computers / minutes should I aim for as a good starting point? I was thinking maybe around 10?

[vernal skiff]

I just got the game and unlocked coal plants, I have a whole setup already should I move it all near the water?

[frozen ingot]

10/min is a good rough starting point for any mid to end game item imho

[lean ferry]

6 rcu a minute

comee onnnnn

supercomputers tho....

[reef grotto]

so i got coal power, now to find water i can sip so i can build constant power infrastructure

[versed plinth]

Uh use bps. Makes it a lot easier. And yes it will probably make it easier if it is built near water, but how far is it exactly?

[versed plinth]

That SIPPY DRANK

[reef grotto]

even though this save has 6hrs of gametime, ik i'm being slow af

[vernal skiff]

bps? its pretty far at least it looks like it on the map

[atomic siren]

ugh I remember when I was doing coal power, built it next to the smallest lake ever

[reef basin]

generally it's recommended to put coal gens near water, yeah. blueprints are not required

[subtle swan]

how do i build vertrically?

[atomic siren]

Fit maybe like 5 water extractors #screenshots message

[frozen ingot]

you're going to have to be more specific 😆

[versed plinth]

Blueprints my bad. Mk.1 blueprint maker can fit 2 coal power plants perfectly. And can you post a screenshot of the distance? May help make the decision.

[vernal skiff]

im also confused on getting power from the plant to factory should I run a staright line of poles and cable to the factory

[reef grotto]

it's pretty easy

[versed plinth]

I don't like running pipes very far, they can be quite annoying.

[frozen ingot]

like... look up? build there? foundations? ladders? what do you mean? 🙂

[vernal skiff]

wont be on the game till later

[subtle swan]

im trying yo build a taller conveyor support but when i place it on the ground its just ground level. how can i fix its place and increase its height

[versed plinth]

Ah alright. And I would recommend the power stations if you can. Its tier 4 I believe?

[vernal skiff]

and whyt should I do a blueporint? idek is I have that unlocked

[spiral summit]

why the hell r the trucks so god damn wide man

[versed plinth]

It makes it so you can have all the pipe and beltwork in the power plant done easier. Basically, it will save you a lot of time.

[wicked nacelle]

so I'm done building a full-world factory... and my cpu-limited frame rate (low or ultra settings) is ~70fps. So I'm pretty happy with that. Still playable

[reef grotto]

after your first click to confirm placement, you can look up/down to control height of the built item

[subtle swan]

perfect thank you!

[wicked nacelle]

it's a little different if you're in one-click build mode, but generally still the same process - just click and hold while you drag it up/down

[vernal skiff]

can someone ballpark me on how many machienes can run off 8 coal plants, i was planning on 8 coal plants and 3 water thingys

[reef grotto]

depends, with or without power slugs

[wicked nacelle]

just hit e on a building and it will show you its power draw and then divide

[vernal skiff]

was planning on having all 3 at 100p

[wicked nacelle]

you may as well get used to doing simple math now

[reef grotto]

in game (default controls) press N then type in the following formula
(X * Y) - Z
X is how much each coal plant makes
Y is how many
Z is how much power you're using to bring the power it takes to produce / supply coal and water to the power plant

[vernal skiff]

i get how to do the math was j wondering if someone knew off the top of their head, im not on the game currently and havent made my coal plant yet

ty tho

[reef grotto]

oh, yea it's 300 MW before you take out supplying the machine itself

[burnt ferry]

is headlift adding up when there is multiple branches in a pipeline whereafter the pipe goes up? like say I split 10 branches from my pipeline. eeach branch goes up 1 meter. headlift should still be 1 meter, no?

[wicked nacelle]

with one or two small coal plant setups you can easily get to oil power

[wicked nacelle]

no, all the water can get up to the original headlift level

[south sinew]

it depends on which machines because they cost different amounts.. smelters are very cheap compared to say, refineries

[sturdy pivot]

if i really want to start the game with a specific alternative recipe, can i save my game before initiating the scan and reload if i don't get the desired recipe?

[reef grotto]

Highest point there is, not highest local/branch wise

[minor rock]

you can, they're not seeded

[burnt ferry]

depends... the output yield for refineries where you could use smelters intead is typically higher

[minor rock]

id be easier to just give yourself the recipe

[vernal skiff]

is oil the final power method lmao

[sturdy pivot]

what does this mean? giving myself the recipe?

[vernal skiff]

i was super happy with my new biomass upgrade and now i gott aupgrade

[south sinew]

you don't usually get more per energy, since most of those also give more per ore

[wicked nacelle]

there's tiers of oil and also another power source later

[minor rock]

there might be a recipe balancer , that restricts chance of certain recipes , but idk specifically . you will get a new one each roll though

[vernal skiff]

ofc there is lmao, word

[minor rock]

yeah like unlocking the specific recipe you want is going to be easier than saving and reloading 100 times

[vernal skiff]

do yall play with flying mod or no?

[burnt ferry]

right.. i dont meant like individual headlifts.. rather if going up 10 times by 1 meter will add up. i wouldnt expect that, but since im new in putting logistics underneath my facilities i wanted to rule that one out

[wicked nacelle]

instead of before you start the scan, just save it after the scan but before you reroll. reroll and if you don't like it reload and reroll again immediately. Or just unlock the recipes in SCIM directly (and remove the hard drive if you care)

[uncut trail]

is car for 10 coupons good?

[minor rock]

sometimes

[placid stirrup]

No need when cannons exist

[wicked nacelle]

you can enable free flight mode in game in advanced settings. Also you unlock something that lets you float while building bases.

[south sinew]

and jetpacks and hoverpacks

[minor rock]

flying mod + reach is really nice

[vernal skiff]

is there a way to add it mid game

[minor rock]

you can use SML , and use the console to fly

[wicked nacelle]

sure, just load with advanced settings turned on. it does disable achievements, but I think there's a mod that turns them back on 🙂

[vernal skiff]

I think im gonna miove everything ive built to the water also or is that not smart

[prisma yoke]

personally i find setting up transit systems to be one of the most rewarding parts of the game. I use them so frequently that it pays off nicely

[vernal skiff]

i didnt see an option to do that

[wicked nacelle]

click on load settings then "play with advanced game settings"

[burnt ferry]

while i wouldnt disagree with the power thing in general, the reason makes no sense, no? 'most of those give more per ore'? whats most of those? the recipes im talking about? they do in fact yield more material per ore... i dont know if thats sufficient to consume less power as well, gien that you have to extract the liquid also somehow.. however you dont just have one recipe affecting your productin lines.. for example i make solid steel then molded pipes and then steeled frame and so forth... all these combined result in A LOT more units of the final product per ore.. still dont know if thats power positive but since such optimised product chain exists for power as well, you can easily solve the problem by just generating massive amounts of power

[white dawn]

If someone hadn't mentioned it yet, btw, playing the game with AGS disables achievements. So if you care about getting those, that's a factor.

(Any of your old saves from before you enabled AGS would still have 'em enabled, but any you do on that world after enabling AGS would have it disabled)

[vernal skiff]

yeah idc for those

[placid stirrup]

I made sure to check as well, xaxxon mentioned it above haha

[south sinew]

I don't disagree that more product per ore probably matters more, and just making more power is a more effective strategy, but the questioner did not ask about that, only energy, and yeah, they cost more energy per product even if it's less materials per product, otherwise the alt recipe would not be balanced

[white dawn]

Ah, heh, scrolling up is hard, see. :D Thx!

[burnt ferry]

while i dont agree with people saying the amterial in the game is limited, i agree with them being more concerned about things per unit and time rather than per power 😂

[wicked nacelle]

you can remove the "cheater" flag from the save in SCIM as well, I think.

[vernal skiff]

where are the load settings to turn ags on

[wicked nacelle]

click load then load settings

[vernal skiff]

its j my game file no settings

[placid stirrup]

"You want me to move my finger 2 inches?"

[burnt ferry]

i was jumping into your discussion without reading into the given context, which I usually complain heavily about when others do it 👹

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397288057052332202/image.png?ex=68812d69&is=687fdbe9&hm=d5c49cb4827765ae232894c16c7f7cca4df2250ebed74e12f7b8c5d4376cc998&

[vernal skiff]

found it ty bro

[wicked nacelle]

apparently the last time I opened my creative mode was the last time someone asked about that dang unbreakable quartz deposit right where you'd like to put a water extractor https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397289008853291078/image.png?ex=68812e4c&is=687fdccc&hm=8719f8bf66ceff440ab0d1071b06611fa8409395d622b115108b8779928f80d7& cuz that's where the save opened up

power augmenter still ragdolls if you touch the middle even if it's unpowered

[burnt ferry]

damn.. i wasnt paying attention for the pressur extractor nodes to be of different quality and instead of 3 pipes with 600 per minute each i had one with 600 , one with 450 and one with 300 🤦‍♂️ thats why it doesnt work as expected

[wicked nacelle]

when you hover the node on the map it will tell you the node quality and quantity

[burnt ferry]

i didnt even thought about 600 times 3 being 250 more than the total output volume of these nodes 😂

[burnt ferry]

bruh... THAT wasnt the issue 😂

[wicked nacelle]

I know