satisfactory

[dawn ravine]

we don't talk about the 'blueprint' system in satis

[silk ocean]

xD

[dense violet]

yeah, it's almost like cookie cutter factories were something they wanted to avoid. A total mystery

[hoary rose]

Why is there like 3 quartz nods under ground so stupid I would have to make like a belt bus just to get them out of the cave

[dense violet]

clip a lift through the ceiling

[hoary rose]

Alright

[dense violet]

you'd probalby have to start teh lift right where the ceiling is though to get it long enough

[hoary rose]

Ok

[wicked nacelle]

man I have some SUPER cursed rail that isn't following the usual signal bug rules/workaround 😦

[atomic olive]

If you can get them lined up, lift floor holes let you make lifts of any height.

[dense violet]

yeah but can't really do that within the terrain above caves

unless you start doing fancy clipping

with your body

[atomic olive]

start build. run out of cave, return to same location above ground, finish build?

[dense violet]

if it's within the ground how are you going to click the lift again?

[atomic olive]

start it within the ground, so you're in the state where you're setting the other end. Keep the build in that state while you run out and back.

[stray loom]

Vertical nudge makes hand building logistics so much nicer it's not even funny. Gone are the days of stacking mergers like a savage to get the height if you are raising them up

[dense violet]

if the ceiling is 50m thick
and for the sake or argument yo ucan only make them 30m long,

the end of hte lift will be 20m deep in the terrain. Unless you clip yourself into hte ground, you can no longer target the other end lift

[atomic olive]

This gets back to "if you can line up floor holes" bit. If they're aligned, you could get a lift going the whole way. The setup would just be really tricky.

[jaunty jewel]

the world grid !

would still be a challenge to get the right one but it would definitely make it easier

[atomic olive]

I have a >200m lift bringing Caterium down to the coast. It's ridiculous.

[prisma yoke]

chat you can nudge by a half meter if you hold ctrl!!!! my life is changed holy moly

i wish i knew this a long time ago

[wicked nacelle]

and now with verticle splitter/merger you can amke it a single lift instead of chaining them

it's silly that there's a drag limit now -- it's just an odd inconvenience

[stray loom]

Is it still possible to go like an infinite distance if it connects to a floor hole or did that get fixed?

[atomic olive]

thats my ~220m lift. 😄

#screenshots message

[prisma yoke]

woah

[gritty sleet]

Can you name trucks that are doing routes? I suspect not.

[prisma yoke]

free potential energy!!!

[boreal musk]

why are you not automating computer already, unlocking aluminum itself cost tons of computers

2-3/min is plenty enough for starter

[arctic spindle]

I fell off a cliff on my explorer is it lost in the abyss

[dense violet]

yup. reload if you want it back. Or just build another

[arctic spindle]

idc about it I want my death crate I had a hard disk

[dawn ravine]

what's the difference between the Default and Blueprint build modes for placing down blueprints?

[atomic olive]

iirc death crate doesn't go away on reload, just the waypoint. So if you know where it is....

[boreal musk]

blueprint mode allow it to snap to another blueprint

[stray loom]

Blueprint mode when building will make them snap to each other perfectly aligned. Default mode will snap to any other building object

[dawn ravine]

[boreal musk]

the truck itself? dont think so, but you can name the route afaik

[rustic otter]

did they patch being able to snag slugs thru rocks?

[wicked nacelle]

blueprint mode with autoconnect also fixes vertical issues when trying to get things to connect - you click once to set the autconnects then click again to set the actual placement position

[mortal belfry]

is there a way to split a conveyer and select how much of an item goes on the left and how much goes to the right?

[boreal musk]

no

[wicked nacelle]

but you don't need to do that. if you send too much one way, it will back up and then more will go the other way eventually. manifolds are great forreaching equilibrium

just be patient and it will all work itself out

[mortal belfry]

ok

[boreal musk]

having that kind of splitter will just remove the core puzzle in this game imo

[wicked nacelle]

manifolds solve that, though. it's not actually a puzzle

[boreal musk]

not really, you still need to figure out the number

manifold at max can only hold 1200/min

[wicked nacelle]

no you odn't

okay, but ... that problem exists no matter how you do it

[rustic otter]

well if ur needing more than 1200/m then u just need another belt

[stray loom]

I was wondering why my fancy new fuel power plant wasn't working properly. Turns out if you only supply 75% of the water it needs because you're trying to put 800m3 of water in a mk2 pipe that can only handle 600m3 you have issues! 🤦‍♂️

[dense violet]

if you feed the right number of total parts mer min down a belt it'll self balance

[wicked nacelle]

say it ain't so

cobalt with another bad take -- you put ANY number it will self balance

[stray loom]

I even had that in the plan and then I went and pulled a dumb 😄

[vivid dock]

Hi

[versed plinth]

there should be an achievement for using turbofuel that's called "HE'S GOIN TURBO!!!" as a reference to wreck it ralph

[grizzled lotus]

I built a freight car, how do I attach it to the another locomotive?

[wicked nacelle]

when you build it if it's close neough it snaps to it

[stray loom]

You can only do that when you're building them. If you build it close enough on the rail it will auto attach

[wicked nacelle]

you have to build them attached to an engine

[grizzled lotus]

I tried, but it won't connect. if it gets too close it says there's no room on the track

[wicked nacelle]

then you need more track

[grizzled lotus]

I think the freight platform I built isn't snapped to the freight platform for some reason

when I back into it, the train derails

[wicked nacelle]

you can't build a freight depot that isn't hooked to a station

or another frieght spot that itself is

[grizzled lotus]

it was a train station and a single freight platform, it was fine

[vivid dock]

Everyone is sleeping?

Lfg is dead

[grizzled lotus]

so I dismantled the rail and built another freight platform. it seemed to snap, but I guess it didn't?

it seemed to snap. but when I get on the locomotive and go into reverse it derails, which makes me think the two freight platforms aren't connected

[versed plinth]

wow turbo fuel feels so different from fuel

[wicked nacelle]

sounds like your rail isn't connected - you can get rail close but not connected

trains don't just derail without either hitting the end of the rail or hitting another train medium hard

[grizzled lotus]

is connecting platforms and railways not intuitive? it seems simple enough but I guess there's some trick involved

[wicked nacelle]

it's pretty easy but every once in a while I end up with a slightly disconnected rail. highlight it with destroy tool and it's pretty obvious if it's not connected

[dense violet]

no? just build a station and clip platforms to them

[grizzled lotus]

that's what I'm doing, but it isn't connecting

[dense violet]

is the station facing the wrong way?

[karmic knot]

do yall think its better to jus go to first set of iron nodes and put base or is there more then that i should look for in a spot

[grizzled lotus]

just to be clear, I already have a train station + freight platform, I'm adding another freight platform

[wicked nacelle]

yes, it won't place unless it's attached

[dense violet]

yup should be fine. What is the issue that is happening?

[wicked nacelle]

you can't just put down a freight platform, it's an error unless it's connected to a station either directly or through other freight/liquid platforms

[grizzled lotus]

the issue is that when I reverse the train it derails when it reaches the new freigh tplatform, meaning it isn't connected

[wicked nacelle]

I suggest restarting your game

[grizzled lotus]

I know, I'm building a freightplatform connected to an already existent freight platform + train station

[wicked nacelle]

beyond that, make a video and post it

[dense violet]

rebuild it and the connecting rail

[wicked nacelle]

what cobalt said. and maybe reload your save

[vivid dock]

I suck

[grizzled lotus]

I reloaded my save ARGH

[wicked nacelle]

that's the rumor 😄

[wicked nacelle]

did that fix it or???

[grizzled lotus]

no

[wicked nacelle]

argh what?

[grizzled lotus]

ARGH it still won't connect

I still get the snapping animation though

[wicked nacelle]

do what cobalt said - delete the full station delete the immediately connecting rail and remake it

[grizzled lotus]

delete teh station too?

[wicked nacelle]

no one knows what's going on, so these are just generic bits of advice... yes, I'd recommend that.

[rocky sierra]

how to create a custom swatch?

[karmic knot]

what order should i do my milestones in i jus started the world

[wicked nacelle]

generally in the order they are in the HUB

[karmic knot]

ok

[wicked nacelle]

there are some you could skip like jellypads (or whatever) but there's no harm in doing them if you don't know if youw ant them or not

[grizzled lotus]

ok it works

[abstract heron]

hi

[grizzled lotus]

thank you all

[acoustic heart]

Y’all ever crack open a cold one and take the explorer out to the desert for a joy ride?

[abstract heron]

do i need to touch grass?

for my hr TOTAL in game

[hollow gyro]

is nudging just insanely buggy? i frequently have issues where pressing left moves it up, and right moves it forward, and can't seem to move it where i want

changing my view direction usually just swaps them

[acoustic heart]

I had something like that happen earlier today with a blueprint but I was looking at it from a weird angle tbh

[hollow gyro]

currently i just can't move it left at all

[abstract heron]

16,701 hrs on record do i need to touch grass

[acoustic heart]

Nah

[leaden ether]

Yeah nudging pipe mounts and ciling belt mounts is especially goofy. I really hope they fix that some day. I mean I'm used to it and know how to "get around" it but still.

[acoustic heart]

Yeah, I usually just swap angles if it’s acting up

[hollow gyro]

i'm trying to get a wall outlet on my machine for daisy chaining and no matter what way i look i physically cannot move it left

welp now pressing left is moving it up and to the right in a weird arc

[acoustic heart]

How long have you been playing? Like when did you get the game?

[abstract heron]

on steam day

june 8th 2020 i got the game

[worthy junco]

So my first hardrive gave me the option between iron wire and cast screws? Would cast screws be the best option? im think it would be

[hollow gyro]

also vertical nudging often does quite literally nothing

[willow glen]

Personally I wish I embraced iron wire earlier. So much easier to build stators without copper

[leaden ether]

Some things like the wall outlets will only attach to certain things like walls and beams, and ceilings but not floors and generally not machines of any kind. SOmetimes you can nudge them to where you want them to go and other times not.

[hollow gyro]

the issue isn't that i can't get it to place, it just won't move

[acoustic heart]

Yeah, I’ve never actually tried nudging on a machine before

[stray loom]

Iron wire, iron pipe, steel rotor are a pretty goated combo. Need more motors? Just find an iron node and bring in some power

[acoustic heart]

That’s pretty smart.

Yeah, I can see why you’d wanna go with using more iron. Especially late game. Seems like there’s a lot more iron than copper. Plus you need a crap ton of copper for nuclear pasta it seems

Currently in the middle of working through phase 4

[willow glen]

plus when deciding my new factory locations, not having to consider nearby copper opens up plenty of more locations

[stray loom]

There's like 95k/min iron on the map if you tapped every node with a fully overclocked mk3 miner

[willow glen]

there’s like 2 spots on the map with no iron nearby, it’s everywhere!

[worthy junco]

Dont even have those unlocked yet i think.

[stray loom]

Caterium wire is also nice sometimes

[flint grail]

Am I the only one that's been having issues where you go to place something down to build and the game is like "No"?

[acoustic heart]

What does it say is the reason?

[flint grail]

It doesn't

[willow glen]

sometimes build mode can bug out, it’s pretty rare now tho. Restart should fix it

[flint grail]

I press the button to place it down and the game just..., doesn't

[flint grail]

It's been more common recently

[acoustic heart]

Interesting. I haven’t ran into that.

I crashed for the first time in a long time today while placing pipe though. Got a Directx12 error. Drivers are updated and everything. I just reset the game and everything was chill.

Guess it didn’t like something

[willow glen]

ya I had 2 crashes during my current 200+ hour run but one was just ??? and the other was the same pipe thing, neither I could reproduce so whatever

[karmic knot]

when yall start how do yall usually set things up?

[abstract heron]

does it run with dx11

i use dx11 to run the game

[willow glen]

define start, because the first thing I do is automate 1 iron node for plates and another for rods

[acoustic heart]

I havent tried. Usually is fine when I run it back

[karmic knot]

like once you get the iron nodes done and have base building unlocked

[acoustic heart]

Sounds like you should go for copper

[abstract heron]

idk try dx11 maybe

i can't check now ofc

[arctic spindle]

do power shards get consumed when overclocking or do they stay there?

[acoustic heart]

Eh. If it does it again, I’ll swap

[karmic knot]

well yea but do yall mess with the base building early gaem at all

[acoustic heart]

They stay there

[willow glen]

my starter base is the typical vertical platform of manifolds. I set up everything to overproduce, and starve my upstream machines if I pull stuff out of storage

[abstract heron]

they do not get comused powershard @arctic spindle or a other thing in game

[arctic spindle]

damn I thought it was one time use thing

Imma put them in every machine

[karmic knot]

lol i have no clue what this means

[willow glen]

for example if I’m making 60 iron plates a minute, I set up RIP to use the same, and if I need iron plates then my RIP machines just run at half capacity

[acoustic heart]

Best thing in my opinion to overclock is the miners

[hollow gyro]

welp i did fix it but i had to get infinite nudge to even be able to move half of anything in the correct directions

[flint grail]

Legit, just restarted and not even 5 minutes in, it happens again

[karmic knot]

ima act like i understand

[acoustic heart]

You at the very least want to use platforms as it makes life easier.

[lime wadi]

anyone know why some things dont render, like smokestacks and the flying bugs and poison clouds?

[willow glen]

After oil I start working on subfactories to replace all my overbuilt and underfed production lines.

[karmic knot]

in the other 2 saves i have ive jus used normal terain

[plucky seal]

It’s much easier to work on foundations

[abstract heron]

i still learning things in game i played for 5 years now

[karmic knot]

im cooked

[willow glen]

Did you know you can use ctrl to replace walls and windows? I just learned that after 1600 hours lol

[abstract heron]

Yes

[acoustic heart]

Yeah, and that works. But having everything on a even flat surface is nice

[abstract heron]

if i had power to play i would

i have over 3hr or nearly in my current world and my biggest is 6800hr in game

[plucky seal]

Me and my friend’s factory setup has just been a frankly oversized tower

[karmic knot]

one save?

[abstract heron]

6800hr one save

[karmic knot]

holy shit

[abstract heron]

3khr my main world

[karmic knot]

can i see what that looks like?

[versed plinth]

hey guys

[abstract heron]

no it probbaly had mods so no

[karmic knot]

rip

[versed plinth]

#screenshots message do ya like my weapons factory

[acoustic heart]

I’m like 120hrs into my current save. Got about 450 hours total.

[abstract heron]

one thing

@versed plinth use depo things

[versed plinth]

? the space storage things? i just havent added them yet

[karmic knot]

should i jus place the foundations on the ground or build up some

[versed plinth]

was actually in the process rn

[abstract heron]

build on foundations

[acoustic heart]

I would say experiment and find what works for you

[abstract heron]

i need to redo my DD starter base its all messy not 100% and i did on the ground

[karmic knot]

am i making them floating or on the ground

[versed plinth]

i like doing some of both.

[plucky seal]

I usually start on decently elevated ground and then use 2m foundations

[ivory condor]

I don't think this game was designed to be played for as long as some of us have😅

[versed plinth]

generally i like to place them a little bit above the ground, just enough to avoid the majority of the stupid rocks.

[acoustic heart]

Placing railways is currently kicking my rear. I did manage to get some blueprints thrown together though to make it a little more easy

[acoustic heart]

Yeah, rocks are pretty stupid

[abstract heron]

my thing went oof and keeps crashing PC so i can't play

[ivory condor]

what happened to your pc?

[abstract heron]

it crashes

and i have to power bar to reset it

so got a new one waiting on stuff then building it then one or 2 days stuff installing and works and then boom back to normal

[tulip orchid]

The biggest issue I have with setting railways is 1. Trying to conserve foliage and 2. Not making unimaginably huge sky rails

[ashen spruce]

cough

[ivory condor]

Oh ok sorry to hear about pc issues, hopefully you get a working pc soon🙏

[stray loom]

Conserve foliage? You mean reduce your framerate 😄

[abstract heron]

probbaly by this weekend then i need to figure out whats wrong

[ashen spruce]

Neither works, I prefer irradiated tracks.

[bronze atlas]

Hey all, I play in 3rd person due to some issues i have with motion sickness, is there any way to make the object scanner have a hud display instead of just on the item in your hand?

[ashen spruce]

Not that I know of. Maybe try looking for a mod.

[willow glen]

I’ve done natural railways and it kinda works well in some areas; the train stops still need platforms tho. But as long as you’re not married to your two rails being exactly side by side, you can make some interesting bends

[ashen spruce]

Also, since when could you play in 3rd person?

[willow glen]

Specifically grassy fields to blue crater is a lovely natural rail route

Red forest ain’t happening tho

[ashen spruce]

Nuke

[bronze atlas]

theres a mod for that, was just hoping for native solutions before installing more mods if possible

[stray loom]

Indeed nuke it for the increase fps

[tulip orchid]

See, the interesting thing is that destroying foliage apparently bloats your save's file size, for Normal Reasons

[ashen spruce]

Nuclear Deterrent Development is best.

Better than Enhanced Asset Security.

I found Xeno Basher and Blade Runners before finishing hub upgrade 2

[tulip orchid]

See, the problem is that I'm also particularly attached to the orderly appearance of keeping rails propped up on supports and cement (partly because that way, I have a better reference of my personal build alignments where needed)

[ashen spruce]

Makes Sense, each tree will prob have another part in the file ig

[rocky sierra]

does anyone know the build limit in terms of m above sea level

[willow glen]

The map is quite rocky, tho you can do bends and stuff around it. That’s generally what I do, since it’s a mix of not being in the sky and still manageable. Supports should be divided into parts tho, cuz your height will vary greatly

[leaden ether]

Yeah you don't want to actually destroy the actual map. So either you keep track of things you have removed in your save, or you make an entire copy of the map and modify that for your save. But that would make insanely huge saves. So there's not really any other recourse.

[last tartan]

Hey folks, is the alternate basic iron ingot worth

That uses limestone and iron

[ashen spruce]

Just destroy it all and delete the save 😂

[leaden ether]

You can see some artifacts of the way they keep track of the deleted items if you have long draw distance on. THe items will actually still show up til you get a little closer to them. Same goes for dismantaling the crash sites and picking up sloops as well.

[tulip orchid]

I mean yeah, I'm not bothering with curved foundations so it's definitely in chunks of "This is rail entirely bottom-supported" vs "This rail has a support pole under it for a corner" vs "This is short enough I don't care"

[willow glen]

not really imo, unless you’re not building using much concrete. Pure iron is the one I want, but you need oil unlocked first

[last tartan]

im working on oil 😭

still not complete with phase 2

[ashen spruce]

Concrete is practically everywhere.

[sterile blade]

Remember that "worth" is subjective and depends on your preferences. Others can just tell you theirs, without knowing yours 😉

[tulip orchid]

Depends on how much you care about having concrete and/or if you have a better recipe to use for making concrete later

Rubber cement goes hard

[willow glen]

Limestone is pretty abundant, but so is my need for concrete

[last tartan]

i didnt take it, that hard drive was really buns tho

i got fused quarts crystal 🙄

[sterile blade]

👆 case in my point xD

[ashen spruce]

angry sigh

[tulip orchid]

See, you'd think that and it's not wholly wrong, but say for sake of argument that you're using molded pipes, and molded beams, and want encased beams, and you're trying to make HMF

[ashen spruce]

Leave the hard drive in if you don't want a recipe.

[tulip orchid]

Granted, I also might've picked an exceptionally shit place to put my starter factory, but oh well

[last tartan]

whats the point in that

[ashen spruce]

Blocks recipes from reappearing

[worthy junco]

Well building a base in satisfactory definitely feels different than factorio. damn 3d enviroments lol

[last tartan]

so how do i scan more hard drives if theres one stuck in the- oh i get it now

[leaden ether]

Man, if I keep going like I am I'm definitely going to hit the 2 gig object limit. Was at 500+k this morning and after finishing a skyscraper I'm at 807k :/

[tulip orchid]

I got both coal alts onto one drive slot just so I never have to see those fucks ever again

[spare crow]

is there a good tutorial or explanation on making trains work properly somewhere? i have a whole loop setup with 4 stations, can drive it fine manually, but it sure as shit won't run on its own, "station unreachable"

[ashen spruce]

What is 2 gog

[sterile blade]

Well, they are two (very) different games... 😅

[leaden ether]

"gig"

[worthy junco]

Well yeah, but its weird having to care about the shape of terrain

Ah yes i cant just blow up this rock

[tulip orchid]

I'd need to see what your setup and/or signalisation looks like
If you don't have the signals then uh, Maybe Go Fix That

[ashen spruce]

It's like Terraria vs. Minecraft, one is complex, the other is 3d.

[sterile blade]

"Giga" is for billions, not millions 🤔

[worthy junco]

Damn xD

[worthy junco]

Isnt Gig for quagmire?

[willow glen]

90% of the time I help with this issue it’s because train station is backwards. Arrow is how train pulls in.

[leaden ether]

Oh it is millions, I was thinking the limit was 2 gig.

[willow glen]

Other 10% it’s the signal junction bug, or some other weird junction issue

[sterile blade]

The limit is just a number of items. While it does relate to savefile size, it's not an exact relationship
Ie: you might be able to reach the limit within 1GB if you spam the "right" items

[ashen spruce]

Giga is the Gargantuan Intervention, Great American corp.

[spare crow]

track direction forward is the curved side, correct?

[sterile blade]

What signal junction bug are we having now?

[tulip orchid]

Ah yeah, the object limit is a thing isn't it
Fortunate that I don't do detail when I'm building

[wicked nacelle]

BS "track loops back on itself" error where the color doesn't change most likely

[willow glen]

the curved side? I need a screenshot. The arrow I’m talking about is a triangle

[wicked nacelle]

very much so

[spare crow]

also, wtf is the front of the locomotive? i don't actually get a visual indicator for that for some reason

[sterile blade]

Easily fixed though ^^
Well, the lag part isn't easily fixed...

[wicked nacelle]

yes, the curve is forward

[ashen spruce]

I used up all verticality and only have 850 MB file, wdym

[willow glen]

When placing a signal at a junction, sometimes it flashes despite it should be working correctly

[sterile blade]

Uhm... "flashes"?

[wicked nacelle]

train stations are "aerodynamically shaped" 🙂

[ashen spruce]

Just own NASA! Easy fix to all gamers.

[wicked nacelle]

"signal loops back on itself" error -- when it actually doesn't

[ashen spruce]

Wrong, use 🤓 instead

[willow glen]

oh, the top of it. Yes, though that’s confused me before, easier to look at ground than sky imo

[ivory condor]

I have seen some bs error messages with train signals, some of them are truly cursed abominations, especially those loop signal errors that in noway means what it says

[tulip orchid]

I assume the signal issue is to do with some weirdness on tracks deciding how they're blocked or not

Dismantling the whole arrangement (usually just the signals but sometimes the rails too) and putting the signals back after the rails usually fixes it

[sterile blade]

...
I have shown restrain in not answering this.
I hope you appreciate it

[leaden ether]

Well I mean the problem is You can't go over the 2.1 meg object limit without modifying the engine.ini file and I'm not sure what the performance will be like increasing it to 4 or 5 meg.

[wicked nacelle]

it means what it says -- the color is the same on both sides of it -- the problem however is that the signal should be changing the color

[ivory condor]

Sometimes I think some of those train signal errors are meant to make people eternally suffer when you come across them

[willow glen]

Goes and checks working junction ITS THE SAME

[tulip orchid]

I mean really it's just a (relatively simple) troubleshooting problem
If you don't know what you're doing it's miserable

Once you figure out what it's doing and why, though, then it's mostly just annoying

[ashen spruce]

Not when you use the emoji

[ivory condor]

Yes, some of these signal errors are straight from the darkest depths of the shadow realm

[ashen spruce]

Sending all of them back.

[sterile blade]

Performance depends on your specs. AFAIK, the only unexpected results is how much saving times increase. Other than that, you can tank your own performance (GPU-side) well before reaching the object limit by just "spamming the right items" ^^
Eg: building a lot of glass, shiny concrete, lights and signs in one place

[ashen spruce]

not so muffled voice DELETE YOURSELF TRAIN SIGNALS

[tulip orchid]

Ohhh, glass lights and shiny floors
Honestly I don't know if I've fucked myself up with those nearly as bad as I've been able to fuck up the frames purely with too much factory built on top of itself

[ashen spruce]

Global Illumination off helped for me.

[ivory condor]

Indeed. I have lost count how much of a my sanity I have lost building, rebuilding the signals and tracks, trying to figure out what cursed error I was dealing with, with nothing working and then suddenly and for no reason it eventually decided to work, because the game decided it had made me suffer enough for the moment

[wicked nacelle]

You can bottleneck yourself with either GPU or CPU issues in this game. depends on what you're doing and what you're looking at and where you are on the map

[willow glen]

generally I only get performance tanks when I spam lights and glass yup. Moving out of the building usually restores it. Except my megabase save, that has low fps just staring at nothing, too many items

[wicked nacelle]

fortunately once it's built correctly it stays built correctly

[ashen spruce]

Sitting on a 2080 (or 90, only god knows), everything else is newer and better 😭

[ivory condor]

I can only pray that remains true

[sterile blade]

I think that "factory items" are all quote cheap for performance. So a few floors of machines and belts may be easier to render than a few floors of lights, reflections and transparencies
The downside of is that factory-stuff takes CPU too to keep existing and running correctly, not just when on-screen...

[wicked nacelle]

I'm guessing it would get fixed faster if there were sporadic errors afterwards

[ashen spruce]

Bye y'all

[leaden ether]

I wonder how big Kinstructions build is.... He's got several huge galss skyscrapers in one spot.

[sterile blade]

I hear there's a savefile that manages to tank FPS mainly with signs in one place rather than lights...

[wicked nacelle]

all right, time to set hte window to 30fps low detail windowed and shunk to minimum size... and go to bed. drops GPU power to about 25% of normal

[ivory condor]

I'm not sure how the game crashing would get things fixed faster, but at least css would have error logs to go on

[willow glen]

does it require lumen enabled? Lights tank performance for both lol

[ivory condor]

Just need a if low fps = game crash to happen

[wicked nacelle]

I was talking about train routing/signalling bugs not being a problem once built correctly. if they were intermittent or popped up after they'd be a bigger deal

[spare crow]

can't post screenshots in here i guess, but checked them all, all arrows face the right way

[sterile blade]

Lumen doesn't work with signs anymore (just billboards)
Anyway, for such details @ivory condor might know better ^^

[ivory condor]

Oh those cursed loop signals errors, its fine I'll figure out a way to send them to the shadow realm where they belong

[willow glen]

Post in #screenshots and tag me with the link in here or you can make a #1038092680493801533 thread, it sounds like it might be signaling which is hard to get in just one post

[tulip orchid]

Because I don't think signs work as lights at all anymore, last I heard
They just render for text and icons

[sterile blade]

But yeah, back when GI did work with signs, that was definetly a frame-killer @willow glen

[ivory condor]

Listen signs are just very borked in 1.1 in general, im not touching those

[sterile blade]

Yeah, billboards are the only exception.
Before, they were "just" the only signs whose light was rendered from the farthest away (comparable to actual lights)

[spare crow]

is signalling required to make this work? i haven't used any as yet

[willow glen]

Only if there’s more than 1 train on the track. Post some screenshots of what you’re working with please

[ivory condor]

And besides your sushi save now have some of the worst stutters because signs in 1.1 have the worst performance of any single buildable in 1.1 from what I can see, so I don't have much reasons to want to try to use signs....at all anymore

[spare crow]

although at this point i've spent nearly 90 minutes on this when i could have just done the noob mode run 7000km of conveyors across the map

[tulip orchid]

You do need train signals to make automated trains work yeah
If not as an outright requirement then as a "What in sam fuck are you doing" measure

[leaden ether]

Okay.. thyings are quite so dire. The 807k object number is the result of the games rather large object leak. I restarted the game and it's back down to 533k which was like 515k this morning before doing the skyscraper -.-

[sterile blade]

Just use less "unique" ones. Copy-pasted ones are fine, right?

[willow glen]

mmm no with no signals one train works forever. Multiple trains will work for a while, then you get a very funny notification and problem to fix

[ivory condor]

If you keep the unique down enough, it might be but I didn't do alot of testing once I saw just how bad the performance was in your save

[sterile blade]

It's as if you just downloaded free RAM. You can fit more factory without upgrading your hardware (or changing the object limit)

[tulip orchid]

Some of us like layouts that aren't liable to implode on themselves, thanks

[leaden ether]

Just have to restart the game every 2 hours -.-

[arctic spindle]

just reached phase 2 and i have to scrap my whole factory

[spare crow]

FFS the game crashed

guess i'll try again tomorrow

[ivory condor]

Actually I have a little quick test I could do with copy and paste signs, ill see if it can handle the same 3k signs in a area without bad stutters, same type to for best results

[sterile blade]

Iirc, the main point of using that save for testing was that it had a lot of unique signs. There's plenty of saves with more signs, but they're usually mostly copy-pasted

[ivory condor]

Right and I suspect thats why not alot of other saves arent seeing the same problems

[mossy galleon]

good morning fellow pioneers, or whatever time it is for yall rn

[sterile blade]

And some of us like their factory as precise as clockwork. We are not the same.
Adjusts tie to finish the meme

[tulip orchid]

You say, to the person who makes the dumbest splitters you've ever seen to do things like get a belt of exactly 67.5 iron ingots into my rotor blueprint:

[mossy galleon]

is cast screws worth it? or should i just unlock alternate recipes that dont take screws, like stitched iron plates

[sterile blade]

I say that to someone who doesn't want their production lines to implode, as someone who has some very implosion-risking facilities 😆
I'm just joking anyway

[willow glen]

yes to both depending on where you’re at. If you can not use screws anywhere possible, choose that. But you likely still need some

[plucky seal]

Cast screws are nice to save some space

[sterile blade]

Screw not using screws, screws are great!

[mossy galleon]

notable, thank you

[tulip orchid]

I mean in the case of 120 to 67.5 (or 8 to 5:3) it's not even really that bad actually
It's mostly annoying because then I have a 52.5 iron ingot belt to deal with and that gets moderately irritating unless I start doubling things up

[willow glen]

I still have nightmares about the old computer recipe

what kind of computer are we building that uses hundreds of screws???

[tulip orchid]

The manufacturer burns screws to function

[plucky seal]

Ikea computer

[sterile blade]

Computers that don't have any loose screws, clearly

[stray loom]

The old manufacturer even looked like some flat pack furniture from IKEA

[ivory condor]

btw i tested that save on latest patch, it still runs absolutely horribly

[sterile blade]

I take away many "belt headaches" by moving them to the factory-planning stage.
Eg: finding a way to group and clock machines and productions that allows me to make logistics simpler for my goals

The headaches are still there, they just change reason (planning Vs logisticing)

[tulip orchid]

Well, yeah, I do consider this in the "planning" stage of things
I do like planning on the field but yknow, I do try to consider these things

[sterile blade]

And you still end up with numbers as weird as "52.5"?
What are you making in such weird quantities?? XD

[last tartan]

Guys, is there any way to get/create an overflow valve?

I want to start using excess coal

[tulip orchid]

Points at default-recipe rotors

[stray loom]

Some alt recipes have some funky numbers. Caterium computers needs 52.5/min quickwire for example to answer that

[last tartan]

or wait

can I just use a normal splitter

no that wouldn’t work very well nvm

[tulip orchid]

Smart splitter does exactly what you're looking for

[last tartan]

Ohh ok

I’ll get on that tomorrow, in the meantime I gotta go sleepy

[vast salmon]

Would this be considered spaghetti? #screenshots message

[tulip orchid]

Now, here's a question, do I:

1. Import SAM down from my main base to the starter factory, and use that to make the components for dimensional depots
2. Import Plastic and Rubber from a yet-to-be-made processing plant to the starter factory, nececssarily disassembling the entire structure and entirely redoing it to use different recipes

[leaden turret]

no https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=spaghett

[vast salmon]

k

[ivory condor]

@sterile blade So just did a test of 3k copy and pasted signs, basically no performance impact, so basically what we suspected, its all of the unique signs that really are the problem in that save and if you keep uniqueness down, even if you have thousands of signs in the same area, performance is basically fine

So using signs is fine in large quantity, as long as you keep the uniqueness of them down enough

Kind of sucks though in a way, because all of the unique signs is what makes that factory so cool, but I guess we can't have nice things anymore

[rocky sierra]

is there a way to measure distance, is there like a ruler tool?

[vast salmon]

i dont think so other than foundations i think

[tulip orchid]

Most things get measured relative to foundation squares (8 meters square)

[rocky sierra]

i'm using painted beams but they cap at 40m

[tulip orchid]

40m = 5 foundations

[sterile blade]

I like tk shorten "Plastic & Rubber" as "Plubber". Saves some tipying ^^

[leaden turret]

rastic

[sterile blade]

Yeah. But it's also less impactful since (most) signs don't do GI anymore :/

[pastel harness]

Anyone know the required conditions for blueprint autoconnect to work for belts/pipes? I can't seem to get it to do the thing

[sterile blade]

Thanks for testing~!

[ivory condor]

Not doing GI anymore is definitely pretty rough to.....

Because that would still be a use case you don't need unique for strictly, as you really just use them for lighting anyways, so

[sterile blade]

Yeah. But if they wanted to keep their "no small lights because bad performance" attitude from the very beginning, they shouldn't have allowed them to use GI from the start. They spoiled us with those GI-friendly signs

[pastel harness]

Oh so it looks like it only works between the conveyor/pipe support objects and not others like splitters or junctions?

[daring stag]

I don't understand the path signal and block signal. it seems there's also a train simulation game in this game

[leaden turret]

path signal is for marking off paths
block signal is for marking off blocks

is it a junction? if yes, path signal. if no, block signal.

[daring stag]

yes that's what I read but in practice it doesn't work like I expect. for instance a train being perpetually blocked, or being blocked for ages now that I added more blocks

I mean, I just have to watch these 1 hour youtube tutorial. I just wish it existed in written format I dislike videos

[south cliff]

This advice will do nothing but confuse someone who doesn't understand signals and will definitely lead them to get errors.
As a train beginner, do two things:
Forget path blocks even exists, use them when you're more comfortable
Make one track for each direction
Keep it simple until you understand it more. There are only a few scenarios where path blocks are required and you probably won't encounter them

[frail sleet]

a block is a section of track, it doesn't "block" trains

[ivory condor]

I know. GI with signs is so broken now

[leaden turret]

"is train in block? if yes, next train will wait. if no, next train will go"

[daring stag]

and the colors on the tracks are just to differentiate blocks? or red, yellow, green have a meaning?

[south cliff]

Yeah, the colors themselves have no meaning. They just visualize the blocks

[tulip orchid]

The short version is you can use block signals for every purpose and the train system will work, you only need path signals for making them work better

Coloured sections indicate what block a given rail segment is part of, and you broadly want to make sure that everywhere tracks run over eachother (Intersections) is the same colour

[south cliff]

there's a bad bug these days where you place down a signal and the color does not change. If that happens, rebuild the tracks

[daring stag]

I found this tutorial in french, do you think the design on the right is good? #screenshots message

[south cliff]

you only need path signals for making them work better
Genuinely for most players path signals will only slow them down. Just because you can theoretically fit more trains into a junction at the same time, doesn't mean you will ever have more than one train inside a single junction at the same time. Couple that with either having trains slow down before the junction, or by fixing this with having the preceeding block signal far away from the path signal, you encounter issues where the train reserves the path for too long

[daring stag]

yea for now I was just trying to avoid collision on my 2 train 3 stations setup (double track but badly done)

but instead I keep stopping traffic

but I will also redo the station layout that will probably help for the block thing

[tulip orchid]

Honestly, if you're just starting out my recommended setup tips are

1. Put stations ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS the same direction as the drive direction of the side they're on
2. As long as you put signals at the entrance and exit of all stations and intersections you should be good
3. Do not use one rail for two-directional transit

[south cliff]

Yep, yep

[daring stag]

yeah but then trains have to make weird loops to get to the station if they drive on the right side and the station is on left side

I thought about having a station on each side but someone told me not to do that

[tulip orchid]

What I mean is
If the train is right-hand drive, the station should always be to the right of the main track

[daring stag]

you mean all stations? but then when a train is on the other side

[tulip orchid]

Actually
Are you familiar with "Right-hand drive" as a term

[daring stag]

I guess? I mean I drive on the right with my bicycle lol. and english ppl on the left

[reef basin]

Have stations NOT on your main line

Make a junction so that trains can leave main line to the station (from both directions) and that they can then exit to both directions of a mainline

[tulip orchid]

Then you'd understand that you're always moving forward on the right side of the road (Or rail, in our case)
I'll get a screenshot in a minute to demonstrate what I mean visually

[south cliff]

no no it's right as in correct
English people drive on the wrong side of the road, not left

[daring stag]

yeah that's what I was starting to understand, I have at least one station that is on a main line

[reef basin]

Right-hand drive means the vehicle is on left side of road / on left rail in direction of travel

[daring stag]

so would you say the setup on the right of this image follows your principle? #screenshots message
but it needs train with a locomotive on each side though

[reef basin]

No

[daring stag]

if you have a screenshot I'm all eyes. I've been trying to find a simple example all evening yesterday lol

[karmic knot]

im kinda stuck rn i jus have my normal iron copper and limestone im not sure where to go from here

[daring stag]

I think next step is coal power asap

for me it was a big game changer early game

[karmic knot]

i dont have that unlocked yet i jus have my 3 basic lines lol

[daring stag]

yeah you should try to unlock it asap with the milestones. you don't need other resources that what you said iirc

[vast salmon]

anyone have any tips for planning a mega factory?

[karmic knot]

ok

[reef basin]

for example: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1382462225285120041/1382806774268170271/image.png?ex=687fe92a&is=687e97aa&hm=601a8e0427865d218b8d49c2b42d84da38d428042fad4acd6d7f26e0bfbcba39&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[reef basin]

tip: don't do megafactory

[daring stag]

ah yes thx

so on your image the train station would be arrow to the left here

if right hand drive like normal people

[reef basin]

if left-hand drive, yes

[daring stag]

ah

[reef basin]

the top track is used to go from right to left, the bottom from left to right

[reef basin]

normal people you mean english?

[daring stag]

wait I'm lost. english are left hand drive no?

[reef basin]

english are left hand traffic (which is right hand drive)

[daring stag]

oh crap

ok I see. that's confusing wording lol

[sterile blade]

English are wrong-hand drive, as stated before 👆

[reef basin]

traffic = side where vehicle is
drive = side where driver is

yeah it's confusing as hell 😄

[daring stag]

how did you link your image btw? seems handy

[leaden turret]

sushi user misunderstand which side of the road is correct one to drive on, to be expected

[tulip orchid]

#screenshots message Refer to this for my visual input on how you arrange a station

[daring stag]

thanks I think it looks like the diagram of greeny

[reef basin]

if you have a link to your image (in my case https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1382462225285120041/1382806774268170271/image.png?ex=687fe92a&is=687e97aa&hm=601a8e0427865d218b8d49c2b42d84da38d428042fad4acd6d7f26e0bfbcba39&=&format=webp&quality=lossless), discord inlines it like this (when embeds are disabled), or posts the image (if embeds are enabled)

[vast salmon]

what if i want to do one tho

[sterile blade]

When going to different countries, I always drive correctly and place my right or lefty hand on the driving wheel as the local rules dictates!

[tulip orchid]

Also, I'm gonna personally say "Don't do that specifically" mostly because it's better to avoid crossing the rails like this diagram does

Note how in my case, I use a roundabout to mix the traffic rather than making a crossing

[reef basin]

eh, that allows trains to turn around, not great

[daring stag]

yeah but the bot censor my images

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/553550313533997057/1397111169101074452/45D1E492-98AE-4D67-B7A1-425AD8CF48F6.png?ex=688088ab&is=687f372b&hm=de30e3024f7454fd31929035912a3000b4292d3c85876cf7be409f56fb4ea67b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[leaden turret]

discord has dong detector

[daring stag]

oh ok that works if I upload the image on a discord channel

my arrows are correct on your diagram?

for left hand drive right side traffic 😄

[reef basin]

crossing is better than roundabout, and if you don't want crossing, then you do 3D junction, which is the same as I posted, except the two points where tracks cross are replaced with bridges

[tulip orchid]

Your image also has a turnaround?
Mine just doesn't cross over

[sterile blade]

Some #screenshots of the map would like to differ

[reef basin]

your image allows trains to turn around on main track

[leaden turret]

it thinks weasels are dongs

[sterile blade]

I don't get that

[reef basin]

we have a bot that has whitelist of websites people can post - prevents spam/scam

[tulip orchid]

Maybe I should just draw a picture to convey a point actually

[green fiber]

Images are supreme

[sterile blade]

Just draw a point
OK, I'll show myself out...

[leaden turret]

flashback to the time I tried to upload some screenshot of the youtube next up thumbnails grid, one of the videos' thumbnails was a baby weasel/stoat in someone's hand in their lap.

discord thought it was a dong.

[daring stag]

and the block stops like that? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/553550313533997057/1397111846023991366/image.png?ex=6880894d&is=687f37cd&hm=6c7483fab5bf7afb1f2d7520287e49c0fe778dc46d2a175eeaec039fc90a3793&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[daring stag]

tbh I think diagrams are always more to the point

[sterile blade]

Dong it, Discord! >.>

[reef basin]

Maybe make a thread in #math-and-meta , it looks we're gonna need a few images

or with https://jspaint.app/ 🙂

[tulip orchid]

#1397112517284724736 message

[daring stag]

yeah I was surprised yesterday to only find hour long videos on trains and not a single fully implemented diagram

but in any case I will try to replicate your diagram it looks simple enough for me

[left arrow]

Out of curiosity, when dealing with large quantities of fluids do you:

1. maximize pipeline capacity and use a manifold with a loop
2. split a pipeline to ensure it isn't running at capacity
3. wing it and add a pump when in doubt

[daring stag]

I always wing it

and fix if needed

maybe that's why my company went bankrupt (I'm a dev)

[left arrow]

I have definitely seen people try ||3|| and I have seen many recommend ||1|| but I made my first fuel power plant with strategy ||2|| and found it much simpler than I thought it would be.

[daring stag]

I mean as long as the extractor is supposed to fill the pipes at some point I don't worry much

some generator will take longer to get stable but I don't care much

sometimes I will overboost an extractor at the setup so it fills faster

[left arrow]

I overclocked an oil extractor to 600 m^3/min and then did:
oil extractor > pipe going up > valve > horizontal pipe > junction > pipes going down > two manifolds expecting 300m^3/min

[worthy junco]

Yolo is life. does cause some pain though

[left arrow]

I'm just a bit dumbfounded by how easy that was and how often people made it seem like making a loop was unvavoidable

Kinda funny how much more trouble it was to make a coal power plant with 30 water extractors connected to 60 generators.

[fluid sapphire]

i always find it a bit wild people build so many more coal generators than i did xd

i had 16 before moving on to fuel power

[left arrow]

I probably had fuel power unlocked before I had 16 generators, haha, I just didn't feel like skipping to it

[reef basin]

4. have smaller subsystems that do not deal with large quantities

[reef basin]

valve is pointless there

[left arrow]

is it? I wasn't entirely sure since the oil extractor is lower, but I guess the machine itself provides head lift so it's as if it was higher?

[upper idol]

hello new friends, is this where i ask about graphics issues

[tulip orchid]

Machines (and buffers, to a degree) do indeed provide a little head lift on their own, but not over the height of the building itself

[left arrow]

I know, I just wasn't entirely certain how head lift and gravity interact so I played safe with the valve.

[tulip orchid]

Ahhh, worth noting is that valves and unpowered pumps will actively kill any headlift you have
This can be useful if you know what you're doing, but can just as easily brick things if you aren't careful

[fathom shuttle]

I’m doing fertile uranium
And recycling the waste water
Do I need buffer for the sulfuric acid and nitric acid or just the water?

[upper idol]

i'm gonna go with no as the answer

[left arrow]

Valves don't block head lift though unpowered pumps do.

[onyx knot]

when they are closed

[reef basin]

yes, if you need headlift, add a pump, otherwise leave it as a pipe

[fathom shuttle]

It ain’t stupid if it works #screenshots message

[fathom shuttle]

Why would you care about headlift if the valve is closed… it’s closed so no flow anyway

[onyx knot]

yeah... kills the headlift tho

when closed*

[left arrow]

Wiki says:

Unlike Pipeline Pumps, Valves don't block the head lift, even when their limit is set to 0 m3/min.

[fathom shuttle]

9 uploaders for concrete

Really hope this will be enough

[dreamy scroll]

Just devote all spheres to uploaders. Really maximise your throughput.

[hidden viper]

I'm confused, I had 3 hand slots since the start of the game. I researched Mycelia +1 hand equipment slot and I still have 3, what's up with that?

[fathom shuttle]

I forgor to automate filters lol

I’ll go do that right now

[tulip shell]

its bugged

idn for how long but all my saves start like that

[idle monolith]

I’m almost done

Just two radio control units / min and I did it

[idle monolith]

Then I got 1 nuclear pasta/min

[left arrow]

Couldn't resist rebooting the game to test my understanding. Yep. Removed the valve.
#screenshots message

[rocky sierra]

i'm tired of rebuilding everything 😭

[left arrow]

in what sense of the word?

[rocky sierra]

every phase i rebuild to make everything more efficient with better recipes & better planning

and honestly idk if im making enough ingots

[left arrow]

While this is very much a case of "do what I say not what I do", I would say just let your inefficient factories run and make other factories on other nodes.

[rocky sierra]

it's too late i already tore everything down

[left arrow]

That said, I did start in Nothern Forest and used all the best nodes with my bad factories so... I did destroy every single factory I had by the time I unlocked fuel.

[rocky sierra]

my problem is that idk what parts i need for the upcoming tiers

[reef basin]

keep existing, build new

[boreal musk]

build what you need "currently", not for " future"

[left arrow]

Yeah, it's really daunting trying to make the most out of a bunch of nodes when you don't have a goal.

[reef basin]

that's why you don't build for future 🙂

a nice read for you: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[rocky sierra]

yeah but if i don't build for the future i'll end up tearing it down

[reef basin]

no, just build new and keep old

[rocky sierra]

i'm conflicted to use copper for wire and copper sheets, because i'll need it for nuclear pasta

[reef basin]

eh, elevator parts are needed in limited amount, so unless you plan to sink them, you don't need to worry about them

[left arrow]

lol. I just made my first fuel power plant and have almost every item in the awesome shop (other than the trophies, of course)

so the idea of needing to make elevator parts to sink is odd to me

[rocky sierra]

i think my problem is i'm trying to make a factory that produces everything instead of individual factories that takes ore and turns it into computers etc.

[reef basin]

yeah, read the article I've sent above 🙂

[rocky sierra]

i will thanks

[viscid bobcat]

modular vs giga factories

i personally say modular is better

[reef basin]

*mega 🙂

[viscid bobcat]

mega factory you can flex tho

[rocky sierra]

modular is easier definitely

[daring stag]

eldritch horror factory

[rocky sierra]

yeah i want to make a huge factory

[reef basin]

you can make huge factories that are modular

[viscid bobcat]

dont do it if you have a low end pc btw

[rocky sierra]

but satisfactory planner begins to bug out and chooses wrong recipes

[viscid bobcat]

I dont know if its optimized well or not, satisfactory

[reef basin]

which one?

[rocky sierra]

also hard to plan for the future with giga factories

[rocky sierra]

i use the website

[reef basin]

yeah, which one

[viscid bobcat]

staisfactory tools?

[reef basin]

there's like 10

[rocky sierra]

the website with the interactive map

[viscid bobcat]

oh idk then

[rocky sierra]

idk which im not on pc atm

[reef basin]

yeah that has a crap planner

[rocky sierra]

what do you recommend

[dreamy scroll]

No bias in the chat at all.

[reef basin]

anything but that

[rocky sierra]

could you give an example

[reef basin]

#welcome has a few

[rocky sierra]

ok thanks

[round shell]

Is there a meta on which items are most efficient to transport via trains? I guess it would be to do with the stack size and input size where they are used

[fluid sapphire]

anything with 500 size stacks is probably a bad idea, otherwise i think its whatever

[daring stag]

yay I can now make drones

[reef basin]

not much, since it also depends a lot on what you want to transport, e.g. some people like to have a factory from ore to final product, so they only transport ores

[daring stag]

some stuff can't be processed like sulphur so I just dump it by train

to my boom boom factory

[dense violet]

Wdym sulfur can’t be processed?

[daring stag]

I mean it can with coal

so I ship it with coal to gun factory

[fluid sapphire]

they mean locally

[daring stag]

have the whole chain from black powder to homing ammo

[left arrow]

Caterium is worth turning into ingots before transport because 3 ores turn into 1 ingot if I recall

[dense violet]

Oh you just mean as a raw resource, yeah I suppose making acid on location often isnt useful

[daring stag]

but now I'm in a bit of a pickle because I ship too many resources at the same small island

[hexed phoenix]

Can't wait to Hypertube cannon my self in Satisfactory VR.. #satisfactory-memes message

[round shell]

Yeah my thinking was that ore is partly worthless volume compared to the ingots

[fathom shuttle]

#screenshots I thought I had a lot of space but I don’t think I can fit the water extractors behind

wtf how am I out of HMF

[hard ivy]

Skill issue

[smoky forge]

yeah there is leached recepie

[left arrow]

So yeah... when I said I did the same mistake

I have been procrastinating on rebuilding my factories, so I now have all these barely processed items in one spot x)

#screenshots message

[fathom shuttle]

Indeed

I ran out of encased beams for my dd because I deleted the belt that feeds steel beams to the assembler

But anyway now that’s fixed back to the very fun task of placing nuclear reactor

[elfin trellis]

hey guys im 600h and never finished the game, started a new game again cuz cba load old saves
im always starting new, any1 of u guys are the same?

[daring stag]

no way, I can start new on the same current map

[reef basin]

well there's only one map 🙂

[left arrow]

I did the first phase in all starting areas x)

But decided to stop restarting the game with 1.1

[elfin trellis]

i'll try this as well, didnt play 1.1 yet so im starting clean and hopefully i'll not quit

[fathom shuttle]

Even with 9 uploaders I can place foundations faster than i can replenish them bruh

[dreamy scroll]

Use all the spheres. Go insane.

[reef basin]

yeah the problem is you're thinking "what to do with these", rather than "what should I make next" 😛

[arctic spindle]

is 780 the max you can get out of a miner

[tall plover]

1200 is the max

mk3 with 3 energy shards

[lean ferry]

So basically what I understood from this server (good morning) drones and trains are good transport, trains for bulk long distance drones for small long distance, and if terrain is good you can short distance bulk with trucks or if terrain is bad belt highway

[reef basin]

all transportation options are fine

[fathom shuttle]

You should experiment with what you like first

[dense violet]

Drones can also do what ever volume. Just add more drones

[fathom shuttle]

I personally really hate trucks, I like trains but they take too long to set up so for most transport I use drones

[dense violet]

Trucks can do a surprising amount of volume per truck too

[fathom shuttle]

Yes this, fuel for drones is pretty cheap too

You can easily sustain 200 drones

[cedar portal]

Trains are greeat if you like pretending you're building a model railroad set. I have an extentive train network (made before drones were a thing) which is fun, but iss a bigger time and effort investment than drones. So what everyone else said, do what sounds like fun.

[left arrow]

My two modes of transportation so far are "human" and "conveyor belt", so...

[daring stag]

trucks are great just plug a coal belt in the station

[fathom shuttle]

Also for anything under 600/min you should just use drones tbh
And if the stack size is 200/500 bump that up to your max belt speed

[lean ferry]

Thing is I rlly want to finish my rcu factory ti get drones but my oscillators are 700m away from my computer and casing

[left arrow]

I'll probably start working on trains once I complete phase 3.

[lean ferry]

I don’t want to ruin my world with belt highway and train isn’t worth it

[fathom shuttle]

Hand feed it temporarily then

[cedar portal]

I have 40 trains running on a rail network that goes all the way around the map and inside and pretty much everywhere. Easy to add a new factory to the network and just route what i want where. That said, I use a TON of drones too as stations are just too big if I need 20 products coming into a location.

[silk ocean]

Do you tend to bother with a splitter at the end of the row? xD

[reef basin]

why isn't train worth it?

[fathom shuttle]

He just wants to transport computers and crystal oscillators

[lean ferry]

My quartz factory is inland

My train station is outside

The time it takes to reach train you might aswell belt highway

[fathom shuttle]

Wait is it in the red forest?

[cedar portal]

From a pure effort standpoint they are not worth how much time it takes to build them. But, I perssonally LIKE trains, they are fun to play with so I make them. As you said, it all comes down to doing what feels fun.

[lean ferry]

Yes like hang in the middle and my train station is oil refinery going round the edge of the map

I have it built over the void so it doesn’t have to clip through much (lags my pc if it does)

[left arrow]

That argument is kinda the same reason why I make buildings on the ground and not just floating platforms all the time.

[lean ferry]

I’ll be real this is my first play through I don’t want to make huge factories I want to finish the game

Once tier 9 is over then I’ll probably redo all my factories

[fathom shuttle]

You should def have a train going through that biome

Lots of bauxite

[lean ferry]

No no sorry wrong forest

I have a train going through red forest for my aluminium

I’m talking about the pink one the one that’s full of hatchers

[fathom shuttle]

Oh like the purple or the one with giant trees?

[lean ferry]

Bottom right of the map with the tall buds

[fathom shuttle]

Oh yea there isn’t anything there other than quartz and sulfur on the edge

Nothing worth a train

[cedar portal]

I have one floating platform (that I built back in maybe release 3 by hand with no zoop) but everything else is on the ground. I really like how it looks, everything built into the terrain.

[fathom shuttle]

No foundations??

[left arrow]

We mean that out buildings are not floating, they look like they are on solid ground and are structurally sound.

though... that's debatable ^^

[cedar portal]

I have foundations but I build them on the ground

[lean ferry]

I’m probably gonna do what u told me to or someone else told me I forgot

I’m gonna temporarily hand feed manufacturer at my base

Unlock drones, put some packages turbo fuel for now (I have 50 stacks in fine)

Use that to run while I get rocket fuel unlocked

Btw how do you guys fuel your drones that are far away from fuel station? Do you make drones go there? Or just put a storage container and hope it doesn’t run out

[boreal musk]

use drones to fuel other drones

[cedar portal]

@fathom shuttle @left arrow An example of building on the ground from my factory.
#screenshots message

[left arrow]

And an example of a not very sound building I made last week ^^ #screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

cool shape hehhehh, sometimes i get sad looking at my boxes

[reef basin]

the effort for single train line is indeed a bit too much, but the advantage is that you can reuse lines

[cedar portal]

Drones only need to be fueled at one port so you have some flexibility. But basicly I have a drone port that has a supply of fuel. So if I want to set up an outpost somewhere and it needs a drone port, I set up two drone ports. One that handles the product, and then a secod that just fetches batteries, and feeds the other drone port, or even a whole row of them.

[lean ferry]

Wait so like have a drone bringing fuel to the drone outpost

[cedar portal]

Exactly.

[lean ferry]

And that can fuel 4 other drones at the outpost, and do that for more outposts

So pretty much like one supplier supplying the whole outpost ( cuz rocket fuel takes ages anyways

[cedar portal]

In fact, the screenshot I just posted shows this. You can see the row of drone ports. One of those fetches batteries and feeds the rest.
#screenshots message

[lean ferry]

Ohh thanks

[cedar portal]

Closeup of my battery line feeding all the other stations, but lots of ways to do it.
#screenshots message

[daring stag]

we're really fudgin the local ecosystem

[cedar portal]

Once you have an extensive rail line set up it's easy to add more trains and stuff, agreed. However... I still tend to use drones because the train stations are just SO FRICKIN HUGE. If I need just three products, making three train stations with several cars each takes up a truly enormous amount of space, and as big as the map is, there are not really a lot of large flat spaces to build them. So I just throw drone ports down.

[lean ferry]

I’ve been told that rocket fuel is better than bagteries but I don’t know what is better to do first. My plan is to hand feed manufacturer, get a few drones and use turbofuel for now, then with that rcu factory get advanced aluminium. With that I can get rocket fuel which makes drones so much better

[reef basin]

three products can be one station with three platforms

[round shell]

My least favourite part of the game is finding good locations for foundation slabs that won't clip terrain and will be big enough for expansion, and trains magnify that because you also need to be able to get the rails out of them in an aesthetically pleasing direction

[daring stag]

idk that's part of the fun, adapting to terrain

[round shell]

Nuke the site from orbit

[subtle swan]

is the tractor any good?

[daring stag]

don't see the point of it once you have the truck

[cedar portal]

Rocket fuel is better than batteries a bit when it comes to the resources needded. Makes a big difference if you have 200 drone ports. Pretty much any fuel works when you only have a few. I have 130 drone ports running off batteries because it's too much work to switch to rocket fuel and not much difference.

[lean ferry]

I would rather rocket fuel because it saves on aluminium a lot

To be fair if there’s a good place for me to make batteries I’ll do that for now

Because I need to hand feed a lot of things to get rocket fuel up and running

[cedar portal]

But you need matching stations with all three products, or need to route your train to three seperate pickups and all of those need three cars of products... and what if I need 5? Even fitting a single station can be hard in a lot of the map, there just isn't much flat space in most areas.

[reef basin]

you have vertical space available 🙂

[cedar portal]

But that hits the other personal preference of mine, no masssive floating platforms. I just don't like big sky trains.

[lean ferry]

My main turbofuel plant is bottom right of the map, and there’s nitrogen very close and I think it’s pure. But aluminium.. the closest bauxite is nearly 2000m away

[cedar portal]

If you are already making lots of turbofuel, just use that for drones to start

[lean ferry]

Not enough I said I had a lot on storage

Oh wait I’m slow

[cedar portal]

Then you can do batteries or rocket fuel later, depending on what resources you have

[lean ferry]

I can use that for them to start so I can get aluminium studs

[barren leaf]

machines on standby dont consume power right? like just for being turned on

[fluid sapphire]

idle machines consume 0.1MW

[barren leaf]

neat neat

[lean ferry]

Btw would it be more efficient to have a drone come straight from the bauxite factory with the fluid tank? Or come from main base ( I have a train shipping aluminium there)

[cedar portal]

They consume a tiny amount on standby. Except the fracking machines, they run all the time

[reef basin]

Not floating, build supports 😛

[cedar portal]

Yeah, I still think train stations on pillars looks awful and I hate it. But everyone gets to build how they like, it's just not for me.

[daring stag]

I think I heard a critter wants to test my turbo ammo that I just unlocked

quality assurance matters

well it's worse than homing imo

[lost wagon]

Tractor is fine if whatever you're using it for doesn't need the extra slots truck gets

[round shell]

I used to be so nervous of the wildlife

[daring stag]

yea same

well, the stingers

[lost wagon]

Stingers are harder to see from a distance, because it's either in dark places or in the middle of a dense forest

That's why we should have flamethrower

[round shell]

Jetpack and rifle change matters somewhat

[daring stag]

I'm in their big cave under the red forest

[fluid sapphire]

stingers? you mean cats?

[daring stag]

homing bullets and jetpacking

honestly I prefer them in a cave, at least I can keep track of them. in the open they jump to some cliff and disappear

[lost wagon]

I would rather mod the enemy out than use the cat thing, for once it looks ugly as shit and doesn't help

Stinger "issue" is the damage and it jumping on you when you're not even aware they're there

[daring stag]

best is to get used to them so you can enjoy the gameplay changes over time

from being vulnerable to destroying them for dna

[lost wagon]

Or you ascending a hill to get face to face with 2 alphas lmao

I already kill them for dna, just bomb the shit out of them

[daring stag]

yeah I admit it still make me pause a second when that happen lol

[vernal moon]

honestly im surprised they didnt nerf rocket fuel

[lost wagon]

Why would they, don't it last 10 seconds of flight

[vernal moon]

i mean in fuel gens

[fathom shuttle]

#screenshots need blueprint ideas for water extractors

[vernal moon]

#screenshots message cuz like this is on e 600 pipe

[fathom shuttle]

I hate the fact that you can’t blueprint them

[vernal moon]

and i have 3 more

[fathom shuttle]

I think I might get all this done in one day

[lost wagon]

I can't give ideas because I dislike too many machines and use the mod that let me use project parts to unlock better machines so I can use less machines

[vague flame]

Hi just started the game and I have 5 fps. Yesterday I played for hours without a problem. Is this normal?

[ashen spruce]

Tried restarting.

[vague flame]

yes ofc

[ashen spruce]

Google'd?

[vague flame]

yes but nothing thats up to date

[daring stag]

the 100 hard drive achievement without cheating is kinda hard

[vague flame]

only posts that are years old

[ashen spruce]

Why?

[vague flame]

not really

[ashen spruce]

It carries across sessions.

[ashen spruce]

Can't help then. Try the QA site.

[daring stag]

idk I have radar tower + scanner

[vague flame]

if you want to build efficient factories you will need most of the recipies anyways

[silk ocean]

How much power do the satellite portals consume? They need power but no indication on the UI?

[vague flame]

just use SCIM

[daring stag]

meh

[green fiber]

Supposedly 100 MW but it varies on startup

[silk ocean]

Thanks

[green fiber]

Checkes the wiki yet?

!wikisearch portal

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=portal

[silk ocean]

Satellite on that page claims to be 250 also xD

[green fiber]

ah, then follow that

[barren leaf]

ohhh is building more of the same type of building more power efficient than overclocking?

[daring stag]

yea

but less time and space efficient

[vernal moon]

yup and underclocking is even more power efficient

[barren leaf]

man i've made so many mistakes my base is a catastrophe

[ashen spruce]

Fix them.

[barren leaf]

thats the thing i may aswell restart

[shrewd lagoon]

same lol I'm this close to starting over

[daring stag]

start a new base

[ashen spruce]

It increases exponentially, so yes.

[rocky sierra]

is there a reason to use iron instead of steel for stuff if you can afford the coal usage? i was thinking about just making rods plates and screws all from steel

[vernal moon]

go for it if u got the coal nearby

[shrewd lagoon]

it's just more effort to use steel

how do you guys decide how many of a part per minute to plan for? like a bunch of times now it turns out I'm making too few of some component i need for a different part so either I make even less of the one I need now or spend ages messing around with the first factory

[reef basin]

mostly just personal preference

more effort usually means it's cheaper in the end

[uncut trail]

can i print copouns with limestone?

[dense turtle]

i wanna make steel factory and i got coal but iron is far away i should prob just get 1 long conveyor belt for it? but 1000m is long distance and idk if it will keep up if i use tier 1 conveyors

[willow birch]

You could tractor it

[dense turtle]

and can i somehow calculate if it would be enough

the amount of iron to time spent driving

can tractor run on coal? or just biofuel

[daring stag]

coal

[dense turtle]

okay nice

[reef basin]

belts don't lose items over distance

[dense turtle]

i mean i cant afford tier 2 belts over 1,5km

[silk ocean]

Sure you can xD

Just manufacture moar

[daring stag]

rush alien depot

then you are god

[silk ocean]

Yea rush the first part of Alien Tech tree

[lean ferry]

where u making it? i dont think it should be that far

[dense turtle]

in this red biome

[lean ferry]

top 10 typos 😭 but anyways I always do my steel where coal and iron are next to eachother

[lean ferry]

wait is this ur first playthrough?

if so then why is bro in red biome (its kinda hard and far away from some resources)

[dense turtle]

the place where iron is near im using coal for coal gens

[lean ferry]

OH

ok fairs you have a point

[dense turtle]

and i dont wanna move the generators

[lean ferry]

is the gen near a big lake

[dense turtle]

nah small lake

1 sec

[lean ferry]

ok then wrong place I was thinking about

you might just have to belt it @dense turtle , grind more reinforced plates and make a belt highway

[dense turtle]

so tractor wont cut it?

[lean ferry]

it could but you would need a buffer

like a crate with a bunch of it first

[dense turtle]

i mean i got like 1200 plates

idk if its enough tho

[lean ferry]

how flat is it

if the tractor can get quickly/land is easy to traverse on then it could

if its too like hilly/mountainy ur gonna have to belt it

[dense turtle]

#screenshots

[reef basin]

then use two mk1s? or trucks, or trains or whatever

[lean ferry]

I think ur gonna have to belt that

[lean ferry]

hes only got coal hes tier 3 I think

[dense turtle]

no trains yeah

[reef basin]

trucks

[lean ferry]

u mean tractor

[dense turtle]

wait

i found a better spot

hell yeah

[lean ferry]

btw

remember how earlier we were talking about moving crystal oscilators to make rcu? well its exactly 1km away

[dense turtle]

right above on the mountain behind the gens theres 3 more coals

[lean ferry]

and its quite far from my existing trainline (around 500/600m) so only suitable is to drone but I dont have that yet

[dense turtle]

and its near iron

[lean ferry]

then build it there 🙂

[dense turtle]

yeah its perfect

[reef basin]

or connect to that train line 🤷

[lean ferry]

theres no point

[dense turtle]

except the fact that its kinda tight in here

[lean ferry]

the biome is in has nothing other than quartz

but if I think about it I could move silica and stuff

I should really make longer messages instead of spamming smaller ones mb

[dense turtle]

how do u craft these weird thingies for spaceshift not cables not smart plating

[lean ferry]

only in machines (assemblers, manufacturers, etc)

you mean the versatile framework? the one that looks like a long triangle

[dense turtle]

i meant recipe cuz i thought i dont have it yeah

i see modular frame and steel beams

[lean ferry]

yea that

[dense turtle]

hmm i think imma think first

or maybe i will just ask you all big brains

[shrewd lagoon]

uhh how useful is alumina solution? got a drive with either sloppy alumina or 6 inv slots

[dense turtle]

do u need it for later levels?

if so then i might just make it constantly

i only did phase 1

[lean ferry]

yes in phase 3 u need 2500

[shrewd lagoon]

you also need it in phase 4

[lean ferry]

in phase 4 and 5 its ingredients for another special thingy majig

[dense turtle]

then i think its worth it to just make it all the time, then i think i gotta belt another iron anyways but at least its closer

[lean ferry]

hear me out on this- near my main base theres coal and sulfur, I dont need black powder cuz I already have cluster nobelisk automated, and smokeless powder. Should I use that to make compacted coal and use tractor to transport my oscilators

theres no point to make a train cuz docking and undocking takes long, and theres pretty much nothing in that biome

im gonna experiment with it and see if it works

btw does anyone know which is better trucks or tractors? its only small volume but which is more versatile

[reef basin]

there's no "better", each has advantages and disadvantages

[lean ferry]

ok like which one is quicker, can climb up steeper terrain

turning doesnt matter its a straight line

[ashen belfry]

Trucks are faster afair
Tractors can climb steeper terrain

[quiet turret]

for the gas mask, can i use polyester fabric in recipe or does it have to be fabric from mycelia + biomass?

[reef basin]

it needs fabric as item 🤷 "polyester fabric" is a name of recipe, that recipe still outputs "fabric"

[quiet turret]

tyty

[dense turtle]

oh i forgot, nah its prob like my 6th playthrough but i never got to phase 2 because i build i build - i end up not liking what i built and give up, i bought the game at update 3 or 2

[silk ocean]

Smart Splitters are not very smart xD Why can't they be programmed using a language xD

[velvet idol]

wait until you learn about programmable splitters

which are also not programmable

[silk ocean]

xD

[dense turtle]

you guys use the satisfactory tools page ofter?

[silk ocean]

I load my saves and use SCIM but that's basically all I do

[dense turtle]

yo i got the recipe 5 steel 3 concrete for 5 steel pipes i think its good

[elfin trellis]

SCIM?

[dense turtle]

interactive map i think

[elfin trellis]

ahh

[reef basin]

what would you want to program them to?

[reef basin]

all recipes are good, depending on what you prefer

[silk ocean]

rates, interconnected logic, etc

[lean ferry]

im such a bot

this whole time I forgot to connect one pipe which was selling my entire power system

[dense turtle]

i wonder if its more efficient

[reef basin]

wdym by "efficient"?
because people use the word for practically anything and it doesn't really have a singular meaning

[dense turtle]

use less steel make more

[reef basin]

yes, it uses less steel, but on the other hand needs concrete

[dense turtle]

it looks like i could make 120 pipes per minute but i dont have enough limestone

i dont think its worth the trouble

[daring stag]

I'm planning on making a base for phase 4 objectives. my oil tycoon island is overcrowded and fubared. do you have a good spot in mind?

need bauxite for sure. wondering what I could get by train, maybe stuff like computers and frames

[hexed phoenix]

Pretty sure we could persuade CSS to make an Emoji coding interpreter - then you can code your Smartsplitter via Emojis

[south sinew]

IME concrete is very rarely used except as a steel supplement

so may as well use it for that else you're basically never using it

[daring stag]

concrete is mvp for my asphalt foundations bro

concrete jungle with concrete pillars, concrete walls, concrete ground

[silk ocean]

Left Output <-- Christmas Tree, Right Output --> Any Present at 25/min

[south sinew]

yeah, but you're not gonna be using 1000 concrete/m on that

[daring stag]

yeah I admit

[fast wing]

I have a hypertube junction, and its going only on the left, i tried holding d to go right but its only going to the left, how do i choose where it steers?

[south sinew]

it's e

[fast wing]

oh okay

[austere pendant]

is there any smart idea about preventing radiation from machines?

or just build it far away and forget

[fast wing]

thanks

[hexed phoenix]

RegEx Splitter when? :D

[south sinew]

just that, and also wear hazmat suit

[silk ocean]

Regex and C++ Splitter can't come soon enough xD

[austere pendant]

im going thro filters like crazy

[south sinew]

you're probably putting radioactive stuff in an inconvenient location then

[daring stag]

assembly splitter

[leaden turret]

there's a mod that lets you do lua

[silk ocean]

I'll take Lua yea xD

A splitter running Arch Linux with Bash or Zsh would be nice tho 😉

[austere pendant]

nah, i'm building factory and i let uranium go from storage into machines xDD

[dense turtle]

#screenshots what do i do with this

[hexed phoenix]

[dense turtle]

the hell is this

[hexed phoenix]

Nobelisk.. They go boom boom :)

[dense turtle]

how to unlock

[hexed phoenix]

You'll need an explosive material, which will allow you to unlock more "fun"ctionallity via your MAM :)

[dense turtle]

like

sulfur? im guessing

[hexed phoenix]

Bingo :)

[dense turtle]

i never found one

on this playthrough

[hexed phoenix]

It'll come eventually when you explore :)

[elfin trellis]

do u guys usually afk factory run recources or if u dont play u exit the gam,e?

[frail sleet]

@dense turtle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4C5LPi8oTY

[leaden turret]

idle crafting is paying microtransactions to your energy provider

[dense turtle]

lmao

im so happy that finally all them alien thingies aint just WIP useless junk

[fathom shuttle]

Pipeline floor holes are bugged

[austere pendant]

yeah, also noticed that

[fathom shuttle]

Sometimes they don’t connect properly to a pipe

[austere pendant]

sometimes they just block flow

[fathom shuttle]

So you can’t connect anything to them without it looking weird

[frail sleet]

I've never seen this happen and i use them a lot, so i wonder why

[fathom shuttle]

Have to rebuild them a couple of times before they go back to being normal

[fathom shuttle]

Idk it’s very annoying

Also for some reason when I build the pipes and check the flow it’s shown as 300/min??

[boreal musk]

it doesnt work properly for me too, sometimes when connecting the pipe from above floor hole, it tries to connect from bottom instead

when the bottom already connected to a pipe

[fathom shuttle]

You can’t see the hologram for the pipe right?

[boreal musk]

yes

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I’m facing the same issue as everyone else then

[boreal musk]

it only happens recently, i never got this issue in exp

i want to report it but i just have no idea how to replicate it

it just happens.

[frail sleet]

sure you're not connecting a pipe to the wrong side?

that's easy to do

[boreal musk]

no, the other side is already connected to the pipe

[fathom shuttle]

I’ve never used them extensively so this is a first for me

[boreal musk]

the problem is that pipe wants to connect to the side which already had the pipe

[fathom shuttle]

Currently doing the nuclear power plant water

36/60 done, the pipes are very annoying

Especially when you try to connect a pipe to a pipeline support and it connect to the other side of the support

Ugh it’s so annoying
But at least I’ll never deal with piping projects of this scale anytime soon

[boreal musk]

that one is easy, just start from the support instead

and id just recommend to use bp auto connect for that

[fathom shuttle]

Yea the issue is that I’m doing it support>junction>supoort>junction for faster connection

[fathom shuttle]

It’s the pipes at the water extractor, and I’m not transporting the water very far so I only need to use bp auto connect for one time

[boreal musk]

if you know the spacing for each water extractor, you can make a bp for the pipes

and then you can just connect it to the extractor

saves a lot of time

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I was going to but decided not

Ill definitely make a mistake and the time to fix will cancel out the time saved

[past hedge]

exit

[unkempt blade]

Gotta get that side hustle going. Hop in a train and stream it while afk

[stoic hatch]

hello guys, I have a design related question

if anyone follows Scalti on youtube, he has this neat and clean design of ceilings lights, how is it done?

[dense violet]

post images of what you're trying to do in teh channel for design?

[stoic hatch]

here?

[past hedge]

in https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/932761153703149659 ?

[stoic hatch]

okay in a min

[lean ferry]

Does anyone know why my turbofuel power plant is not working well? The generators are not receiving enough turbofuel, and refineries say they need more fuel even though I’m supplying more than enough. I have 7 of them with one under clocked to 50 , and 3 of them say they don’t have enough fuel. They need 146 in total and I’m bringing 150 packaged fuel (diluted)

For some reason tho the packager sometimes is running out of packaged fuel to turn into fuel

Wait hold on I might’ve solved it might not I need to check

No it’s all clocked to a good speed can anyone help?

[muted parrot]

My suggestion would be to turn all of the plants off, let them fill completely with fuel, then turn them back on

Probably easier to remove power lines than individually turn them off with the button

Oh hrm the packager is running out? Are there any elevation changes in your setup? Sometimes you need a pump to get full throughput

[ashen spruce]

Next Person to write gets a free Cadet #1!!!

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