satisfactory

[naive palm]

The truck looks so cool imo, but it somehow has the space requirements of a train, the stability of a tractor, and the handling of a cybertruck.

[stray loom]

The truck looks better and sounds better therefore it is better. Fite me

[naive palm]

My argument is only with your conclusion. Your premises are sound. It does look and sound cool.

[white dawn]

Heh, I admit I use actual Trucks pretty rarely. I'm fond of my lil' sugarcubes though

[stray loom]

Look at Big Tractor always trying to keep trucks down

[naive palm]

I mean the tractors are bad handling too, but they only cost a piece of iron and a prayer so I can forgive their flaws.
-# I know this isn't really what they cost this joke is rhetorical please do not correct me

[stray loom]

It's ok. We all know the true superior wheeled vehicle is the Ficsit Factory Cart

[naive palm]

I forget - can you automate the factory cart? Does it have inventory?

/gen

[stray loom]

It has a single inventory slot

[last tartan]

guys is it normal to cry when you run over a lizard doggo

[leaden turret]

depends on if they're tears of sadness or tears of joy

[last tartan]

: (

he was so happy and he just.. ran infront of my explorer

i will never forgive myshelf

[humble osprey]

💀

[white dawn]

With enough carts running the same route, you can get some pretty decent throughput with 'em

[stray loom]

They're also tiny and fit everywhere

[white dawn]

Though you're limited by the queue behavior at the station; would need multiple stations eventually

[tall plover]

that feeling when you need 675 Fluid for a certain recipe to run at a certain speed

the pain

[naive palm]

magnificent.

[white dawn]

Doggos'll respawn, it'll be as good as new in a few in-game days. :)

[leaden ether]

And the amount needed by each machine is 225 :D

[last tartan]

Hear me out

A multisided xenobasher that can also serve as a zip line

but it’s way more expensive than a normal xenobasher

[naive palm]

duct tape

[vestal mica]

what is way more expensive? becuase anything with a fixed cost in an infinite resource game is still effectively 0 cost.

[subtle swan]

i need some help. my fuse boxes keep blowing up all the time. i cant figure out how to fix this

[cedar portal]

I set up a cart to bring me iodine filters made at the southern part of the map up to the swamp where I have my nuclear. That was a long drive.. I'd use vehicles more if creating paths wasn't such a massive pita

[hard ivy]

make more power

[naive palm]

Depends on your tier. Early on, KYO297's answer is the only way. Once you get power storage this problem virtually goes away (or, at least, you get a warning when power is draining).

Unless you're SINKing nonstop (which is valid), power usage tends to be spiky and uneven. Power storage evens those fluctuations out quite well.

[tall plover]

much worse... its 75

[subtle swan]

thanks!

i hope there is other energy resources i can get without having ot make the bio stuff all the time

[leaden ether]

LOTS of them :D Next is coal which is free running/no maintenance.

[hard ivy]

if your power is fluctuating, or lower than expected, then you might wanna fix it, and then it might be enough to fix your blackouts

[cedar portal]

Add more bio-burneers until you can get to coal. Examine a burner or power pole to see teh graph, make ssure the power capacity is higher than max consumption

[white dawn]

Honestly if you're at the stage of making Iodine filters, you could alternatively have done a drone instead. :) I'm definitely a Tractor advocate, but once you have Trains + Drones, long-range vehicle routes are harder to justify

Iodine filter logistics tend to be among my first drone usages, since you're unlocking that stuff at nearly the same time

[prime jasper]

I can choose between 6 inventory places or alternative recipe for steel pipe which now only cost 20 iron for 5 pipes

Both looks really good. But I think I am going for the pipes. Their recipe just appear in so much stuff

[fathom shuttle]

6 uploaders for copper sheets xD 1440/min

[humble osprey]

Is there a mobile version of something like the satisfactory modeller?

[humble osprey]

Why so many

[fathom shuttle]

Closest thing is satisfactory logistics

[cedar portal]

I did that before drones existed, and not because it was useful, just because I wanted to do it and like seeing the carts trundle about

[fathom shuttle]

Blueprint auto connect, each click takes 800 sheets

[hard ivy]

best option I know is Satisfactory Tools

[uncut trail]

is there a way to copy my already build factory to insta build it

[hard ivy]

with SCIM, probably

[dry mantle]

anyone know if there are any mods that get rid of the "Tracks turn to sharply" problem

[vestal mica]

get your tracks to turn to jesus instead

[prisma forge]

amen

[uncut trail]

whats that

[ripe stump]

Fire up your Hibachi, they taste like chicken⚓

[dry mantle]

Instructions unclear they went into the sky

[ivory condor]

doesn't actually work unfortunately, there is some real limits in what kinds of track are valid, for example all of my attempts to make trains go upside down have all been a complete failure, there is just some limits you cant bypass unfortunately even with mods

[hard ivy]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[prisma forge]

that's where He is

[dry mantle]

Thats not what I wanted 😔

[prisma forge]

Correct, that's what God wants.

[dry mantle]

These Tracks aren't allowed religious freedom when its stopping my production

[ivory condor]

Yeah I have no answer, I can't get tracks to do what i want even with mods it isn't possible....

[prisma forge]

Remember, Jesus multiplied the bread and fish. Bring him there and he'll be an infinite version of somersloop

[ivory condor]

Unfortunately I tried on that and it only ended in complete and utter failure, its over....

[dry mantle]

fuck

Fine Ill just scuff it

[woeful elbow]

when searching for nodes my limestone is labeled liMesTONE

[south kindle]

Wish there were more vehicles in satisfactory. Not because I want to drive them, but because I saw a video of an automated EV assembly plant in china and I want to make one.

Also race tracks are awesome.

[quaint summit]

hey guys, I'm nearing the 'end' of my playthrough (as in, stage 4 needs to be send yet), but as of now I have T5 belts capable of transporting 780 items at most. is there a faster belt yet? because MK3 miners on pure nodes do way more than 780 items

[south kindle]

T5 is top tier to my knowledge'

[cedar portal]

T6 does 1200

[gilded goblet]

isn't there a mk6 belt

[quaint summit]

noice!! exactly what I wanted to hear. because I thought it would be weird to be able to max upgrade MK3 miners but not be able to extract all the resources

[ivory condor]

Only way, there is alot of limitations that are built into the engine, also for example you can't make infinite length belts, because the implementation that built into the engine has real bugs once you get above a certain length, basically causing the belts become corrupted and unpredictable in behavior

This is true even with modded belts, because they try to use those implementations, that just aren't designed above a certain belt length

[cedar portal]

Before the 1.0 update that was exactlyhow it was. Mk3 miners fully upgraded simply couldn't be emptied fast enough. There was quite a bti of teeth gnashing over that let me tell you.

[gilded goblet]

thats kinda cool tho, your miner is so fast you cant keep up

[quaint summit]

I can understand that. I mean, I paid for the whole speedometer, so I'm gonna use the whole speedometer 😛

[dreamy scroll]

It was a despicable situation

[quiet gust]

also made maths very goofy

[cedar portal]

The devs talked about adding a second output port, or re-balancing the entire item tree downward to fit but luckily they just bade faster belts 😄

Some sort of floating point rounding errors stopped them for a while but they seemed to have mathed their way out of it

[quaint summit]

would actually be nice ideas too, but this is just the most logical solution

[ivory condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeYAFCJ0N3I related

[quaint summit]

anyways, let's get back to my iron production, but make sure I have room for that final expansion 🙂

what I do have to get used to is that also the smallest trees now have that whole earthquake thing going on...

[cedar portal]

Spoiler alert, there is never a final expansion. The factory must grow

[ivory condor]

Its fun they prototyped up to mk12 belts👀

[quaint summit]

correct. as of now I have 130 hours in this world going and ofcourse there is still waaay too much to do

[ivory condor]

The mk12 belt actually looks faster than the mk6 belt we have now, I bet that would be some fast input/min indeed

[naive palm]

mk12.. finally - a belt that can transport enough screws.

[ivory condor]

It was designed with screws in mind

[verbal yoke]

I never realised how expensive trains are to run, I just plugged in my train station to my factory and it did an insta 2x on my power needed, I never really payed attention to it since it's purely decorational but damn that train's power consumption got hands

[naive palm]

put some grease on those train axels.

[quaint summit]

aren't trains actually just some flex mechanic? I get the idea that (long) belts are less esthaetic, but far more efficient

[solid mural]

why does this discord not have voice channels

i wanna talk to people while i play

[ivory condor]

Belts are less flexible in logistic design compared to trains

[ivory condor]

Because it would be a nightmare to try to mod that?

[quaint summit]

well, balancers can be build here too, can't they?

[solid mural]

like every other discord server in existance can manage it

[naive palm]

A train can carry many separate resources to many separate locations. A belt (ideally) only carries one. Not to discourage forever-belts that run across the land. ADA knows I've done it before.

[ivory condor]

True, but trains will remain the best for the most flexible logistics

[verbal yoke]

I mean, sushi belts are ideal, as long as you don't exceed the belt's capacity

[quaint summit]

TBF I'm in my second run (didn't finish the first one though), but still use belts all the way. I like how you can stack them. however I can imagine the beauty of a decent rail network

[ivory condor]

True but most of the ones I have seen have little if any moderation

[white dawn]

A single segment of belt will only ever carry that one belt's worth of resources. A single segment of rail can have effectively infinite throughput growth. The more you invest in your rail infrastructure, the more it pays off. Also, don't sleep on rail as a pioneer rail transit solution, too: hop on a train, set your destination, and enjoy the ride.

[verbal yoke]

flexible, yes, but, but the humble belt can be built en masse so easily that they kinda invalidate their need

[solid mural]

and most of them don't have issues with that

[ivory condor]

Most aren't large popular factory building games like Satisfactory either

this is also a main discord server so they have to ensure a certain level of moderation here

[white dawn]

Regardless of how you feel about them, CSS does not want to have voice chat in here unless it can be properly moderated, which is basically impossible to do without significant time+money investment\

[quaint summit]

TBF Satisfactory is 3D Factorio

[verbal yoke]

ehh, a single segment of belt can be upgraded as the game goes along, and with stackable supports, any belt built on foundation can be easily added to, saves the hassle of dealing with trains
also pioneer cannons

[white dawn]

It... isn't? Factorio and Satisfactory are very different games. Pretty much the only thing they share is the vague "factory automation" goal.

[ivory condor]

Noway factorio is superior😛

[humble osprey]

I use exclusively mk. 5 aluminium belts ngl

[naive palm]

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. You have to manage throughput, inflow, and outflow logistics with sushi belts. I believe these drawbacks outweigh the benefits of using less belts or cost of switching to trains.

[humble osprey]

That's like saying Minecraft is 3d terraria

[white dawn]

Upgraded/expanded by going back to click on every single segment yet again. With rail it's literally already there; this one bit of rail you laid down can keep on adding and adding to the throughput, via more trains going through taht segment

[verbal yoke]

you just make sure the numbers don't add up to 60/120/270/480/780/1200
[wait this was meant to be a reply to the sushi belt thing, idk why it's not a reply message]

[quaint summit]

ofcourse the exact production lines wil differ, as with any factory game. but in essence they share so many similarities they are essentially 2D and 3D cousins

[white dawn]

I'm not arguing that anyone should or shouldn't use trains, but the throughput gains via an increasingly-utilized rail are honestly staggering

[quaint summit]

780, and then 1200 (as I've been told)

[white dawn]

Want a new belt to go from one corner of the map to the other? You've gotta lay that whole belt line again. Want a new train line from one corner of the map to the other, with an already-established rail network? Probably just a small bit of extra track plus a couple stations.

[ivory condor]

Sushi belts are great. I would recommend it highly where it makes sense

[white dawn]

Again, not saying anyone should use trains if they don't want to, but you're 100% missing out on some really powerful mechanics if you skip 'em.

[quaint summit]

well, what WOULD be a real challenge is to do only trucks the moment you unlock them 😛

[ivory condor]

Yep once you have a global train network, there literally is no going back to running belts long distances

[naive palm]

@white dawn is already saying everything I would say about trains. They're sweet.

[white dawn]

And the other nice thing is it's not like you have to build that out all at once. Just let it grow organically as you need logistics, etc. :)

[verbal yoke]

I love sushi belts, they also are really satisfying when you see a plethora of different parts that all have been made

[clear bolt]

I am at oil refinery and I am dying inside lol.... I have such a mess of "temporary whatever" in the middle...and now I'm trying to figure out where to set up or how to use these iron nodes correctly.... (I have the alt recipe for steel via coal + iron) ...the location is rocky desert with those pure iron nodes.... that solo iron node...idk if that IS the right one for the steel ...its closer to the coal 😦

I guess I won't really know till I set it up and realize its not the best spot or something...the other spot with the 2 nodes I'm using for spitting out whatever alt recipes for steel stuff (eg. iron pipes or w/e)

[naive palm]

credit to trains for making me finally learn how to actually make curves in Satisfactory. I'm trying the beam+arch method right now even though the catwalk method works fine.

[ivory condor]

Nice things about this game, is once you have a global train network, any spot becomes the ideal spot for a factory

[quaint summit]

don't forget, you can always work with heights. just build a pillar and start a new floor

[clear bolt]

I'm not there yet sadly but yeah I can see how these belts are a pita...like caterium to this spot from the closest node is wild but...its not THAT far

TBH, if you don't mind setting up adhoc factories wherever...this isn't a problem for you, but if you like to put your entire production line in one spot then yeah logistics! lol

[lean ferry]

are the default supercomputer and radio control unit recipes good? and if so how much do I automate /m

because they are EXTREMELY expensive and idk if I need that many of them /m

[clear bolt]

"Oh yeah I'll just set up a quick temporary whatever and afk while I belt the mats to it ..HAH AUTOMATION"

Later: "Gosh, look at this mess...what was I doing even?!?!"

Heh can't post the screenshot...

[quaint summit]

totally relatable 😛 . However I do tend to keep some kind of organisation. just like with GTNH (Minecraft modpack) I do like SOME degree of order

haven't played Satisfactory that much though, so I'm still learning how to get my organisation better and better

[clear bolt]

I can make the order because I have SOME things set up but I tore a lot of stuff down because I belted coal/caterium once I got the alt recipes....and now ....I have no motivation to deal with the mess I left behind atm lol

More like I can't figure out how to resetup the stuff appropriately xD (don't want to have to redo it again because the utilzation is trash or something)

[quaint summit]

well, I already noticed there WILL be a moment when you look at your initial setup and be like: Now I REALLY have to redo this. untill then, as long as it works, it works 😛

[sharp river]

is there annyone here that knows how train signals and intersections work i have alot of isiues with them

[lean ferry]

how many supercomputer/ radio units do I need to make a min?

[clear bolt]

🧐 ........don't take my word for it but.... all of them

[sharp river]

is there annyone here that knows how train signals and intersections work i have alot of isiues with them

[cedar portal]

Anyone making lots of Supposition Oscillators? Looking for ideas on ratios. I need 20 a minute to make 20 warp drives a minute. I am using time crystals to make the dark matter crystals. So 5 residue to 4 crystals. I've got my Quantum Encoder looped and running at 235.3% which makes 588 residue, which gets made into 470 dark matter crystals which is exactly enough for the 400 to make the warp drives and the 70 the encoder needs. Phew.

Anyone else use that sweet spot? Looks like without looping you would need 3 encoders running a combined 571%

[unkempt blade]

what this game is really missing is some sort of ball to throw at creatures and maybe the ball sucks them inside but lets them out later so they can do stuff for me

[cedar portal]

That would get Coffee Stain sued by Nintendo 😐

[shy mulch]

Can anyone explain the issue in #screenshots ?

[unkempt blade]

what if they used a cube? those are less aerodynamic so it might be harder to throw them

[last tartan]

NO

HOW COULD YOU

[unkempt blade]

do it work if you go from the floor hole to the top connection?

[prisma yoke]

sometimes i wish wall outlets didnt have the electricity warning triangle on them because it makes me feel the need to make sure they're always upright

[steady glade]

not much to be done, you can delete the 2 lifts and the splitter, replace the splitter from the ground up, and put back the lifts

[shy mulch]

No, it doesn't snap. The floor hole is freshly created and has no direction. I've created another floor hole 0.5 to the right and the lift goes in the middle of the two floor hole positions

[unkempt blade]

probably ghosts then, I'd just replace the floor hole and try again

[shy mulch]

won't the lift be out of place for the machine input then?

[shy mulch]

Did that about 6 times, it's not possible to position it differently

Meh I'll figure it out tomorrow 😛

[steady glade]

shouldnt be, if the machine and splitter are placed on foundations, theyll align, the only issue from the previous build is that you snapped the splitter to the lift and not the opposite

[shy mulch]

Might just move the machines back a bit or something

[balmy locust]

I am working on tier 9 now. Recently I lost patience with slow travel. I used a mod to increase hover pack speed so I can move pretty quick now and with auto connect in 1.1 it is easy to set up giant belt towers. I've never messed with trains before. Someone sell me on the advantage of trains over belts, given the above? I'm considering it but don't see the utility, with that mod.

[shy mulch]

I've not had enough sleep to handle this tonight, I'll just delete that whole row of machines and start that line again tomorrow

[steady glade]

not much of a point to using vanilla features if you have mods to make life easier

[sharp river]

can someone help me figure out the problem in #1396927841899384882

[steady glade]

maybe aesthetuics

[placid stirrup]

I hardly use trains for fast travel, since hyper cannons are faster. If you're willing to install mods, I think you'll find hyper cannons incredibly valid.

[unkempt blade]

trains are more fun than belts and it's fun to see them whoosh around the factories

[humble osprey]

I'm thinking of starting fresh in a new save. What y'all think?

[balmy locust]

It is possible I overlooked some utility! And I like utility.

[shy mulch]

Flexibility. If you invest the time in a big global rail network then any time you want to move one thing from somewhere to somewhere else just feed it into the nearest station and pop a train down, tell it where to go, done.

[balmy locust]

This is in fact an extremely compelling point for me to maybe do it on my second playthrough.

[humble osprey]

I think they should shake the players camera when they wizz past you. That would bring a lot of life

[unkempt blade]

I get a lot of satisfaction from seeing all the trains and vehicles driving around

conveyors are easier to set up and don't use power/etc but they're less interesting

[steady glade]

make them kill you like a hog charge

[humble osprey]

Why not drone it

[placid stirrup]

Even "easier to set up" isn't always true.

[shy mulch]

Perfectly valid option. Uses a lot of fuel if you have large quantities. Personal preference

[humble osprey]

Fair enough

[placid stirrup]

Unless you're straight up slapping them down on whatever terrain you can

[humble osprey]

Have u seen the "point and shoot" Method video for placing rails

[unkempt blade]

yeah I typically just slap them down until I have my skyroads going and then the skyroad BP has a bunch of conveyor attachments already inside the road for the few long-run conveyors I use

[atomic siren]

Do rail blueprints connect with each other automatically (if I place 2 next to each other in the correct orientation, are the tracks connected?)
#screenshots message

[steady glade]

press r again

[lost wagon]

I want to make a "regional" factory in all biomes precisely because of that, instead of just having sattelite factories I want to have all the things produced in a biome sent to a central area where I will craft things using those resouces, the issue is planning what I need to have on the biome lmao

[atomic siren]

ohh thats cool

[lost wagon]

but probably only stuff that uses manufacturer since Assembler only uses 2 inputs, making it a waste transporting to it instead of just making it on site

[unkempt blade]

I like to do a lot of my smaller factories as sort of chunky "support pillars" for the skyroad

[placid stirrup]

Don't think so but I'd be surprised if it's faster than just having a few BPs for rail supports.

[harsh badger]

plz combine with star citizen

[humble osprey]

I haven't ever used BPs for that but I'd bet it is

[lost wagon]

why planners doesn't work with Liquid Biofuel, except Modeler

[placid stirrup]

point and shoot seems much slower but far more accurate

[hard ivy]

because you need to add biomass manually - it's not an extractable resource

[white dawn]

I'm sure Star Citizen could use another half-assed gameplay loop

[harsh badger]

could extend to automated space factories

[fluid sapphire]

if we are lucky, my grandchildren will get to play star citizen (i dont currently have children)

[lost wagon]

since you have to feed it manually, I guess making an input where you feed empty canister manually can also work, so you don't need to build it where oil is close

wait, there is a steel canister

[hard ivy]

you can also use the alts that use iron and copper or steel

[ruby mountain]

how to swap hotbars?

[subtle hatch]

Press alt and scroll with the mouse wheel

[quiet gust]

alt + scroll wheel

[ruby mountain]

thanks

[fluid sapphire]

coated iron canister also

[lost wagon]

yea, the iron/copper one is better since also won't need coal

[hard ivy]

I bound by hotbar swaps to forward and back thumb buttons on my mouse. much easier to use

[fluid sapphire]

i use those for vertical nudge

[quiet gust]

i use those for hotbar keys

( i have the ultra gamer 12 button mouse)

[fluid sapphire]

me with my 2 extra buttons that i didnt even use for literally anything until satisfactory got vertical nudge

[lean ferry]

yall I gotta ask u smth rq

im making rcu factory- I have all ingredients automated already at different map points

all of ingredients are alr going to my base, should I ship the crystal oscilators (I just automated them) to my main base, and make the rcu factory there?

(my casings and computers are being shipped to main base already- 5 a min computers and 80 a min casing more than enough)

[quiet gust]

what recipe are u doing for rcu

nvm thats reg

with such small amounts it does not matter where you ship it o, so whatever is cooler

[lean ferry]

I dont know if I should truck it or train it tho

[quiet gust]

drones

or trucks if they are close to ur main base

[lean ferry]

... I kinda need... to automate batteries and rcu

[cedar portal]

Doing it at the main factory wwould be the 'easiest' if you have space for another machine. Making an outpost factory and importing everything via drone wwould work if you want a lot of them.

[lean ferry]

really the space is fine and everything is fine (im making 2.5 rcu a min planning to sloop it to 5)

but its the transport

[humble osprey]

How do u guys do furniture

[lean ferry]

700m away from main base are my oscilators, and my computers are next to oil which is alr being shipped

I can easily put a train station next to the quartz but idk if its worth it

btw how many batteries do I need to automate (will do tommorow) for a good amount of drones?

[humble osprey]

How many depos y'all got for concrete btw?

[quiet gust]

uhhh, i did 900 packaged rocket fuel and batteries and rocket fuel are nearly the same

[quiet gust]

i had like 6 in my last save

[humble osprey]

Noted

[lean ferry]

dont have nitrogen yet

[quiet gust]

but i also built much more

[cedar portal]

@lean ferry My RCU machines are here on a platform I'm using for all the high tier products. RCU factories are the two rows with the red colored ones.
#screenshots message

[quiet gust]

i highly recomend rocket fuel, its much more aluminum effiecient

[lean ferry]

I need drones to be able to get that rcu setup

but if I think about it

wouldnt it be easier if I handcraft the first few rcu for drones

[quiet gust]

i just buy a bunch of rcus to get to the point of making rcus

[quiet gust]

or that

[lean ferry]

longuini can I ask u smth rq

[humble osprey]

Have you guys ever played no man's Sky? That game has a feature where if you double tap the jump button, the jetpack launches you horizontally instead of vertically. I was thinking satisfactory could use that feature. Thoughts?

[lean ferry]

for advanced aluminium production do I need alot of supercomptuers or rcu to the point I need them automated

I have 40 coupons, if I can start rocket fuel production I can just use that for my drone fuel and do that

[quiet gust]

RCUS FFOR PRESSURE WELLS AND THATS IT

YOU DONT NEED SUPERCOMPUTERS TILL NUCLEAR

[lean ferry]

ok

[quiet gust]

oops caps lock

[cedar portal]

I want the grappling hook + suspensor travel from Dune. But the movement mechanics in Satisfactory are very smooth and, satisfying.

[willow glen]

Crouch slide jumping (bunny hopping) is already pretty neat, would be hard to keep both

[humble osprey]

Rcus?

[quiet gust]

you need radio controll units for wells

[lean ferry]

bloody hell ficsit

I work for you and you make everything so expensive at the shop

im saving earth gimme a discount bro 😭

[humble osprey]

I'm guessing I'm really not using bunny hopping properly cuz it feels very ineffcient

[willow glen]

Gotta do it 4 times in a row for the big speed boost

[humble osprey]

To the point where if I need to move quickly, I place a mk. 5 belt and just use that to launch me

[willow glen]

easier on foundation or dirt than it is grass and rocks

[humble osprey]

I use mk 5 belts for moving myself very often, specially in small to mid walkways. Have you guys ever been in an airport? They got those belts you can walk on

[willow glen]

do you ctrl+select the two poles and conveyer for deconstruction before you leave?

[wanton apex]

Does anyone happen to know why some ore nodes on the Interactive Map have a gold outline on it?

[lost wagon]

rarity maybe

[cedar portal]

Before teleporters, before hypertubes, before trains you could fling yourself AMAZINGLY far with belts. They nerfed it hard, and I still miss it

[lost wagon]

or just to make it easier to spot among the 700 iron nodes

[willow glen]

That’s just the icons for Sulfur and Caterium

[humble osprey]

Huh? I don't deconstruct them if it's an area I visit often. For example i use these walkway belts on my rocket fuel factory's catwalk

[wanton apex]

oh okay i see

[willow glen]

Uranium, iron, and limestone also have white borders. Bauxite and copper is red. The rest are black iirc

[lost wagon]

uranium is green, literally unplayable

[humble osprey]

U can't sha uranium without saying yum

[willow glen]

easier to keep builds clean by either having a dedicated hypertube or just… keeping it clean and using the space to crouch slide. To each their own tho

[lean ferry]

lets say im making 4/5 droenes that are going around 1km a journey how much packaged rocket fuel do I need

[lost wagon]

nvm, uranium has a green border, it's just barely a green

[willow glen]

dang you’re right, uranium is a lime green, not white

[humble osprey]

Hah, I agree, keeping builds clean is very satisfying. Did u know that two belts can fit perfectly in a catwalk?

You can make bi-directional walkways with that

Specially if u blueprint it

Speaking of blueprints, is there a way to zoop blueprints?

[willow glen]

okay I haven’t tried that yet that sounds really cool tbh

[humble osprey]

It looks REALLY clean and it's super functional too

[elder apex]

there is a mod specifically for zooping blueprints, supports x,y, and z axis zooping at the same time, but it doesn't cost the proper amount of materials

[lean ferry]

how good is packaged rocket fuel in drones

like how long does it last

[humble osprey]

Better than regular fuel

[willow glen]

about as good as batteries.

[humble osprey]

But in my experience, regular fuels do the job good enough

[willow glen]

as long as you can keep the stack full I think you can do a cross map round trip with rocket fuel powered drones

[humble osprey]

But I might have to change my opinion on that tho, I've experienced some drones randomly settling down and stop transporting cuz they run out of fuel

[charred snow]

i just started my first crude oil thing how do i get polymer resin

[humble osprey]

Ummm

[stray loom]

The basic fuel recipe gives polymer resin as a byproduct

[humble osprey]

Make fuel I think

[stray loom]

6 oil to 4 fuel and 3 resin

[real wolf]

#screenshots message only took 9-10 hours of work

[stray loom]

Later you can get a specific alternate for resin if you need more

[vernal compass]

Is it just me or do mk2 pipes have trouble connecting to pipe floor holes?

[charred snow]

ok so i have found an pure oil node and im connecting 4 refinerys to it with water

would resin come out?

sorry im very confused

[open pollen]

Look at the recipes in the refinery and see which ones give resin

[real wolf]

its cause the floor holes are mk.1

[vernal compass]

Ah

[open pollen]

Is this actually a thing?

[hard ivy]

no

[real wolf]

yes. mk.1 pipes work perfectly but mk.2 dont work

[hard ivy]

mine work fine 🤷‍♂️

[open pollen]

It seems we have conflicting views present 😆

[gritty spire]

are hypertubes one way or both

[real wolf]

both

[fiery pewter]

Ficsonium fuel rods can't be sinked right?

[stray loom]

Correct. Although they don't generate any waste so you might as well burn them if you're going to the trouble to make them

[real wolf]

i worked so long on my power plant / oil plant that i have made 24k rubber while only making 75 per min

[fiery pewter]

About 5 hours

[fiery pewter]

Yeah that's fair

[real wolf]

yeah and that was hours after i started 😭

[short pelican]

@sour kestrel

[stray loom]

With nuclear in general unless you specifically want the challenge the common approach is just use uranium and recycle the waste into plutonium rods. Your choice to power vehicles or just sink those

[hard ivy]

burning the plutonium and storing the waste is not a terrible idea either

plutonium doesn't produce that much waste

[stray loom]

True as well yeah. Its like 9k hours or something for a single reactor to fill an ISC with waste and if you really don't want to be near it you can clip under the map and build a giant storage array right above the death plane at the bottom of the world

[hard ivy]

you can also put it 2km up in the sky. pretty sure it'll be even farther away from the surface

[high kiln]

i have been initialisng respawns equence for 20 years

[cerulean gorge]

does anyone know the bot command to pull up the starter diagram to using water extractors

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch cg

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[cerulean gorge]

this is too complciated for me xd 🐟

[hard ivy]

then I have bad news about the rest of the game

[cerulean gorge]

i know, it only gets worse and worse
i'm just not good at building smart

[naive pendant]

Deploy the sacred 1:1:1:1 ratio!

Errr 1:1:1 in this case.

[fluid sapphire]

literally just build the picture

[cerulean gorge]

i messed it up because i didn't do 2 by 4 coal plants, i did 1 by 8

[fluid sapphire]

thats fine, feed from both ends

my first coal plant was also a row of 1x8

[cerulean gorge]

ye, i have to reorganize the coal belts

[ivory condor]

Deploy the sacred manifolds, thats pretty simple

[cerulean gorge]

i bet i could give a satisfactory player a stroke if they ever saw my game

[stray loom]

Bro I've watched Let's Game It Out's videos. You can't scare me

[ivory condor]

You would be surprised I have seen some really bad spaghetti nightmares

[lost wagon]

worth slooping liquid biofuel? Like the Protein and Biomass part

[ivory condor]

And yes some of those saves will forever haunt my memories

[naive pendant]

Doing a temporary sloop chain for the full liquid biofuel chain is very nice. Then buffer all the output in a storage and remove the sloops.

2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64 style scaling on it.

[soft scroll]

anyone know if CSS ever plan to update zoop mode to make all supports required when you reach max length?

[stray loom]

Guess that really depends how much you want to rely on it as a fuel source

[soft scroll]

yeah, thats what i did recently. its awesome

[naive pendant]

Mhm. I think the vast majority of players don't want their power linked to a manually gathered resource other than early game.

[soft scroll]

its actually a great usecase for slooping the whole chain (except packagers as you currently cant sloop them)

[soft scroll]

i did it mostly for jetpack fuel

[dawn ravine]

I have returned

[soft scroll]

meant less cutting down wood 😄

[dawn ravine]

my satisfactory addiction has relapsed

[lost wagon]

jetpack yea, also less time having to kill aliens

[soft scroll]

exactly

[dawn ravine]

currently waiting for all the phase 3 project parts to finish

[stray loom]

Now I want to see someone do a biomass power only challenge and beat the game

[soft scroll]

though im also using LBF for a truck station atm

doing things in a certain order and LBF is just so easy to produce

[lost wagon]

truck I installed the mod that let you get a small electric station through milestone, I use it as a fuel station, having the truck stop on them for 5 seconds, so now I can use trucks to make it looks prettier/alive instead of using billion ugly belts

[soft scroll]

nice'

[stray loom]

Can also use factory carts inside buildings. They don't need to be fueled at all

[soft scroll]

anyone able to answer this please?:
anyone know if CSS ever plan to update zoop mode to make all supports required when you reach max length?

talking about belts

its super annoying to have to stop, connect a new one and repeat

it should just auto build supports and keep going :/

[elder apex]

since 0 supports are required for belts, technically it is already working in that manner

[soft scroll]

how do you mean?

mine just turns yellow at a certain point and wont keep building

am i doing it incorrectly?

[elder apex]

that isn't a support issue, that is because they are arbitrarily limited to 6 foundations long

[soft scroll]

then any plans for them to fix that?

[elder apex]

if you want to ignore that, go install the infinite splines mod

[soft scroll]

for a factory game its really annoying

[soft scroll]

lol, that should just be the default...

[elder apex]

there are graphical issues when you start doing ridiculously long belts

[soft scroll]

ok, i must be missing something

whats teh difference between me manually making a long assed belt and them forcing me to remake it each 6 tiles?

[elder apex]

conceptually there might not be a difference, but to the underlying engine there definitely is

[cerulean gorge]

so for performance reasons, shorter belts over a long distance are better?

[soft scroll]

ok, so...why dont they do both. keep the spline lenth but autmatically start a new spline?

[elder apex]

especially since belts are splines, and therefore not just straight lines from point to point

[soft scroll]

its just really tedius is all

[stray loom]

Because at a certain point you're forcing the game engine to render so much that you will tank the framerate massively. If you've ever tried to build with large complex blueprints you'd be familiar with that

[elder apex]

you might want to read up on what a spline is and how it works, because it is not as simple as you make it out to be. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spline_(mathematics)

[soft scroll]

hmm, i may not have articulated that one correctly. let me rephrase. i dont mean give you a choice. i just mean. when i make a belt. its 6 tiles long max. then i need to connect a new "segment" to get another 6 correct? . so why not just automatically start on a new spline of 6 without me having to click again?

grid of 6*

[green fiber]

its either click to continue (aka make a new belt) or click to cancel in the proposed new system

[tawdry plank]

It still would have to show the previous spline tho and after a certain length it still would shit out the frames

Even if it "starts a new spline" after 6 foundations

Trust me from experience splines can be a pain in unreal

[dire narwhal]

hey guys

[prisma yoke]

is the automated gate supposed to go in the gate hole wall?? i might be stupid but it only just occured to me that maybe it isnt and thats why it clips a bunch

[dire narwhal]

im new

[tawdry plank]

I had to remake the game zaxxon in unreal for uni and man splines suck

[elder apex]

also, i told you how to get around the issue, just install the infinite splines mod and it removes the limitation on spline length, just be aware it comes with its own set of problems

[charred snow]

whenever i make fuel in my oil refinery it goes idle and pauses randomly even if i have enough oil

[soft scroll]

well, thank you for the splines for dummies explanation 🙂

[dire narwhal]

i need help with the fuel, im new in the game

anyone wants to help me in a play?

[stray loom]

For machines to keep running you have to remove all output items

[tawdry plank]

I could give an in depth explanation but it's 2am and I don't wanna think of unreal fuckery at this late hour

[stray loom]

As soon as one backs up it will stop

[green fiber]

how much is "enough"

exactly what it needs for it to start?

[soft scroll]

oh no, the TLDR version was enough thanks 🙂

[tawdry plank]

But you can install the mod loader and the infinite spline belts mod for fun. Just keep in mind you're sacrificing your frames

So be mindful :)

[charred snow]

it needs 6 oil to make polymer resin and fuel and i have way enough

[viral egret]

i wanna get to pipes today

i really hope i get to pipes

i like pipes. pipes are good

[tawdry plank]

Eat the pipes

[trim vine]

This might not be the game for you if you shy away at that

[green fiber]

if input is full (50) then you should perhaps check the output of the refinery and make sure its not overflowing with stuff

[tawdry plank]

Don't eat screws

Give them to me

No reason 👀

[stray loom]

But they're so full of iron

[cerulean gorge]

so far i'm enjoying the game despite my complaints, I will adapt to my needs and rebuild it from the ground up when I'm ready

[main topaz]

What issue are you having?

[tawdry plank]

Yeah but give them to me I need em for reasons

[soft scroll]

am i correct in that if i power one station, it will power the whole rail and thus the station at the other end?

[stray loom]

Yes

[soft scroll]

awesome, thanks folks 🙂

[sacred venture]

do you guys polay singlkeplayer or multi?

[tawdry plank]

Alright I'm going to bed goodnight folks. Good luck growing y'all's factories

[limpid orchid]

After what Phase is there no more Content?

[tawdry plank]

I play alone but I only play alone in general

[sacred venture]

none

they added content at the end

[neat hinge]

is there a way for blueprints to connect to one another automatically

[quiet gust]

5

[neat hinge]

I have a conveyor tower but its a pain to connect each together

[tawdry plank]

Press R

[green fiber]

yes its called autoconnect.
press R to change mode

[sacred venture]

i havent gotten my furnace stacks to connect

no matter how i do it

[green fiber]

autoconnect only connects belts to belts and pipes to pipes (and rails to rails)
it doesnt connect them to splitters, mergers, junctions, machines

[sacred venture]

oh thanks

i'll try to fix my design

[neat hinge]

thats annoying because im using stackable conveyor poles

[trim vine]

5

[green fiber]

well thats a belt still

if the stackable poles have a bit of belt attached to them, autoconnect will try to connect those belts to other ones

[cerulean gorge]

FICSIT watching me pour unlimited water inside a hypertube

[charred snow]

is there any reason to store polymer resin?"

[green fiber]

if you ONLY use the blueprint to build stackables without any belts or whatever in it, then yea, autoconnect wont have anything to connect to

[green fiber]

0 reason

[charred snow]

k thanks

[fluid sapphire]

thats not exactly true, if you have something placed down with say, outputs, and the thing new blueprint you are connecting has belts, it will connect to those ports if they line up, for example, something like an industrial container with belts on input side, you can chain them and auto connect will work

[green fiber]

thats still a belt on the container though, is it not

[fluid sapphire]

not on both ends, is what i am saying

[lost wagon]

what if when you go above the limit it automatically confirm building the previous section and start a new one? Similar to how you can hold click on Factorio and it spread the power poles in the limit distance between eachother

[neat hinge]

it doesnt connect very far

[lost wagon]

which by the way that feature would be really good here

[neat hinge]

dissapointing

[green fiber]

the initial connection is close, but you can then move it further apart once its "snapped" together

[lost wagon]

start with the first power pole and then go to the end of where you want it to be and the game just build the others in between

[naive palm]

Both. My friend and I have a good system where we play single player most of the time, but jump in and apply what we've learned in a server on the weekends.

[soft scroll]

nother question please: the OGTR is a calculation of both distance travelled/speed and loading/unloading times correct?

[dense turtle]

can i somehow make it that every wall i place has set color

[green fiber]

what is OGTR supposed to mean

[soft scroll]

sorry, outgoing transfer rate

[green fiber]

good question. I literally never use that value because its not accurate

[soft scroll]

im speaking about trains again btw

[green fiber]

yes, i know

[soft scroll]

how do you normally calculate then?

[green fiber]

i just chuck it in and hope it works

[soft scroll]

lol

also, any way to stop my demensional depot from duplicating my shards?

[green fiber]

sounds like a bug, which likely means "no"

[soft scroll]

le sigh

free shards i guess

[green fiber]

hmm, interesting.
When the heck did that get added.

[fluid sapphire]

idk, its been like that ever since 1.1 hit the main branch at least

i never tried experimental myself

[soft scroll]

i seemed to have borked something up

says my station is unreachable

they are both connected

[fluid sapphire]

maybe facing the wrong way?

[bleak pollen]

i dont suppose theres a way to auto stop a crafter after its made a certain amount of parts is there?

[green fiber]

no

[feral venture]

can anyone here help me with server?

[soft scroll]

yup, just realised on of them was backwards. though i fixed it but it just turned around again...

[bleak pollen]

ofc not that would be to easy

[willow glen]

arrow of train stations gotta face the direction the train is entering the station, and the locomotive will stop at it.

[fluid sapphire]

why would you even want that

[willow glen]

try limiting one of the inputs with a container (place exactly the amount needed to get to X in it), is the only way

[fluid sapphire]

to add, you really only need to have the exact number for just one of the source materials

[hard ivy]

Long story short, exact calculations are complicated.

Involve round trip time, stack size, belt speed, train length, number of trains, number of belts per buffer and stop settings

[soft scroll]

uggh

station still unreachable

[hard ivy]

The wiki has most of the stuff

[soft scroll]

oh i know why

locomtive is backwards as well

oh look, its working now 😄

i did it

my first ever train setup "choo choo motherf**ker"

[dawn schooner]

how do you go down with the hoverpack

[soft scroll]

C

should be crouch button if you ahve remaped

[viral egret]

i wish you could put a note on top of conveyors or splitters or machines that every time you hover over it tells you the note

[hard ivy]

I believe that's called a sign

[viral egret]

where can you get them?

[hard ivy]

Awesome shop?

[viral egret]

ah

does it work from afar?

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch sign

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=sign

[viral egret]

like if i hover over it?

[soft scroll]

no they are just always displayed

[viral egret]

ah no that's not what i'm looking for

[wanton fox]

Noob question, how i can extrac nitrogen? i mean, i know there are 6 extraction points in one node, but how i gather all in one pipe?

[viral egret]

i'm looking for something like minecraft WAILA

[hard ivy]

You can place it next to whatever you want to label

[hard ivy]

Nothing like that in vanilla

[viral egret]

i see, thanks anyways

[hard ivy]

Might be a mod for that, but I don't know of any

[green fiber]

do you have the well pressurizer yet

[hard ivy]

Place a pressurizer on the large middle node, power it, then you can place extractors on the small ones

Then connect the extractors to pipes

Keep in mind that the total may be more than 1 pipe can fit

You don't need to place all extractors either

[wanton fox]

ok

i saw the extractos has different extraction value

3 sub nodes has 60 /m but other 120

[hard ivy]

They have different purity

The pressurizer will tell you how much total you can extract

[viral egret]

#screenshots message is this a bad idea?

[wanton fox]

#screenshots @hard ivy mi abomination xD

tryin to gather the 600 /m

[wanton fox]

no. actually i use this

[viral egret]

i wish there was a floor plug, the pole is too biggg

[wanton fox]

to keep clean i send then more conection between fundations and my machines conects from the grounde

[elder apex]

use a beam with a wall plug on the end of it, that way you can size it as big as you want.

[fathom cliff]

Is it normal to only be crafting at most like 5 modular frames and smart plating a minute 😭? I just entered tier 3 and feel like my factory should be performing much better than it is right now and if a pro saw this they might cry and call the cops on me for my poor factory LMAO. If it is supposed to be performing better please give me some tips to point me in the right direction.

[viral egret]

what beam? i bought the pillar set but it's so huge

[main topaz]

Do you have anything that needs more than 5 modular frames a minute? If not, then you are making enough.

[elder apex]

painted beam, also available in the awesome shop, It's about the same width as a the wall plug and you can drag it when you deploy it to be as long or short as you need

[tulip orchid]

Complicated parts are kinda just going to be like that

Smart plate is a matter of upscaling your production, although for space elevator parts the rates are largely novelty

I usually set em up with boxes and stop thinking about it

[fathom cliff]

Awesome, I just wasnt sure if my factory was a piece of junk or it was just kinda a pain in general. Thank you!

[main topaz]

If your factory is running and making the stuff you need, it isnt junk.

[wicked nacelle]

containers and sloops. You'd be surprised how much you can move quickly with just your personal inventory 🙂

[cerulean gorge]

can someone help me with my coal plants?

I'm doing 1x8 but the last two coal plants at the end aren't getting e nough coal

[wicked nacelle]

how fast are your belts?

[cerulean gorge]

mk2 belts and a mk1 on a pure coal node (also mk2 lifts

[wicked nacelle]

did you wait for the earlier ones to fill up?

it can take 5-10 minutes before the end ones get 1/8 share of coal

[cerulean gorge]

i mean not really but it seems that only the last 2 are shutting down because a lack of coal

[main topaz]

Make sure your belts can support the needed coal, and if you have a long manifold, you need to wait for the coal to fill the coal generator buffers.

[wicked nacelle]

beacuse the others are filling up

[elder apex]

example here. #screenshots message

[tulip orchid]

I mean, you'll want more modular frames eventually?
There's better alt-recipes to use at that point though, particularly with regard to steeled frame (one I've used recently) and really any given Reinforced Plate recipe

[cerulean gorge]

what should i change?

[wicked nacelle]

You should be patient

come back in 5-10 minutes

[cerulean gorge]

ok, at least i dont have to worry about the whole grid being down

716 vs 1275 MW

[main topaz]

You could pull the coal out of the first few generators and put it into the last few generators since the first few will fill up quickly.

[wicked nacelle]

the later ones will run out because now the earlier ones have to fill longer

You either do a 3-tier 2-way split balancer or you just wait

[main topaz]

Its worked out for me if like 60% of the generators are filled.

[unkempt blade]

I'm not sure what we're talking about but in general I'd say don't change a thing it's beautiful just the way it is

[wicked nacelle]

he just didn't know he has to wait for a manifold system to reach equilibrium - so your advice is actually perfect 🙂

[unkempt blade]

yeah but the important thing is positivity and self acceptance

[viral egret]

ok the "simple math" is starting to be not so simple...

[cerulean gorge]

i just killed another hippo tick thing

[viral egret]

you mean the space giraffe tick penguin... thing...

[unkempt blade]

I frequently have to use my fingers and my toes to figure stuff out but it's totally worth it because the game is amazing

[cerulean gorge]

do you think i could add a splitter near the miner mk1 and use it to fuel a nearby truck stop?

[viral egret]

i got to the point where i need 3x100 screws output and i'm genuinely starting to get headaches

[unkempt blade]

that's a lot of toes 😦

[viral egret]

real

well, that mark guy is getting banned...

[wicked nacelle]

make screws right as you're going to eat them -- for each set of a few machines. It's much easier to put iron ingots on the belts because you need fewer of them per minute

[tulip orchid]

It's still better than some of the hilariously awful decimals I've had to try dealing with

[formal warren]

Why

?

[viral egret]

idk, you pinged a bunch of mods, usually people dont do... that...

[wicked nacelle]

I wish you could artificially limit the size of a container. Just basically disable an arbitrary number of stack spots. I'd love to have a 9 stack container, for example.

[valid sonnet]

Like you can do in factorio?

[formal warren]

I'm just looking for help to contact Satisfactory Mod Manager the sever

[wicked nacelle]

dunno haven't played that in years.

[tulip orchid]

Pinged a bunch of mods to ask about a different server that you were already banned from
Which I feel like if you were banned there's probably a reason, granted I'm not sure what the SMM discord is like when I'm also barely paying attention here

[wicked nacelle]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/556448894993563659

[viral egret]

well, my generators ran out of fuel, i think that's it for me for tonight

[formal warren]

I don't know if I've been banned that's why I wanted to contact somehow

[true mulch]

#open-a-ticket

[viral egret]

goodnight pioneers

[formal warren]

am I asking here?

[true mulch]

what?

[viral egret]

are you?

[true mulch]

if you want to reach out to the mods, use #open-a-ticket, don't ask here

[cerulean gorge]

lizard dogs are funky creatures, they be giving me the most random stuff

[formal warren]

a okok

[cerulean gorge]

i just unlocked blade runners, now all lizard dogs shall fear me

[reef wasp]

Good evening. I believe it's time for Satisfactory.

[lofty raven]

Any good mods that yall can recommend that add more to the early game

[unkempt blade]

it's always time, especially during work hours

[reef wasp]

You are correct.

[wicked nacelle]

more what?

[willow glen]

I had 2 lizard doggos in this factory and now I can’t find them? Even SCIM says I’m right on top of him; I’ve deconstructed all foundations and roof tiles and don’t see him anywhere

[wicked nacelle]

I recommend nobe's to let you not having any doggos you can't find

[willow glen]

There’s another one 12m over, same thing. They were stuck on 2nd floor

[lofty raven]

Sorry I meant more just in general

[wicked nacelle]

more what?

what part of the game do you think isn't enough>?

you want more combat? more exploration? more resource types?

[unkempt blade]

more trains!

[wicked nacelle]

more power requirements? more research?

[unkempt blade]

I want the child-sized amusement park trains until I unlock real trains

that's what would make early game better

[ivory condor]

Probably in the ground somewhere

[willow glen]

Ya, I even checked trees, I guess they decided to go digging without me

[wicked nacelle]

the factory cart of trains.

[willow glen]

They also haven’t moved in 10min

[ivory condor]

Can always move them with scim

[lofty raven]

Resource types

[ivory condor]

You also use scim to spawn a hoard of doggos

[willow glen]

Meh I only got to check on them like 4 times before I finished phase 5, if he wants to dig now he can. Just making sure them phasing into the ground is a known issue

[modest nest]

huh I had 8 constructors on cable, went and hooked up quartz to a different line, came back, they had changed to making copper sheets

[lost wagon]

ADA

[willow glen]

well uhh… I can’t explain if they randomly switched, but middle click copies all settings of a building, so maybe you copy pasted the copper sheet ones and not the cable ones and only verified light color and not recipe? Just guessing

[lost wagon]

she is getting too powerful

[wicked nacelle]

don't those have different inputs requirements? maybe a PEBKAC issue?

[wicked nacelle]

sheets and cable don't build from the same thing

[willow glen]

They both use a constructor, and both come from copper, it’s very likely both were nearby

[modest nest]

I mean there was cable backed up on the output conveyor and I had wire feeding in soo

[wicked nacelle]

cable builds from wire

[lost wagon]

they said it changed to sheet, not that it was making them

[modest nest]

Yeah

[wicked nacelle]

I suppose

[modest nest]

I had this same issue a few days ago in the HMF process

[willow glen]

only way I can think of that happening then if you running up to each one individually and ctrl+v’ing the wrong recipe, but that just seems unlikely unless a guest was on your save

[wicked nacelle]

I've never had any such issue nor have I heard anyone else here report such an issue

[modest nest]

Its an offline save, and it was producing cable when I left to get quartz

[willow glen]

And you’re the only one who touched that PC?

[modest nest]

Haven't left my setup in hours

[wicked nacelle]

you have an old save you could load to see? a named one that owuldn't get overwritten?

[willow glen]

Strange, like xaxxon this is new to me

[modest nest]

I might, I'll check

oh a named one

no, last time I manual saved was when I logged off last night

[lost wagon]

game can be weird, I mentioned it before that I had the max consumption of power be 5.6GW and after a while went down to 5GW without me doing anything

[wicked nacelle]

waiting for pasta production to back up to see what your real consumption looks like is PAINFUL -- even at 5x speed

[lost wagon]

still don't know what happened there

[wicked nacelle]

again, that's probably a "I didn't realize/forgot I had done something" kind of issue. Issues like these don't tend to be one-off things that only impact one person. There are SOOO many hours worth of game play on this discord that we see everything a lot of times

[lost wagon]

was 5.6GW, saved the game, reloaded the game and it was 5GW now, magic to reduce power usage I guess

that's the thing, I didn't move

was checking a power pole to see the power usage, saved, reloaded, it went down

might have been a mod fucking up, who knows, but something magic happened

[willow glen]

loading in resets some things, tho I’m not sure of the list. Just noticed when I loaded into my save all my trains started from a dead stop, despite being mid route (maybe the power grid wasn’t online on the first tick, the graph reflects that)

[karmic knot]

how do foundations and nodes mix? and how should i build my foundations

[wicked nacelle]

they don't... but I don't really understand your question

[willow glen]

Ctrl to snap foundations to the world grid. H once you’re over the node. Pg up and pg down to get it to your desired “flushness”. You have about 2-3m of play and the miner will still snap

[wicked nacelle]

It would be cool if you could build a world-grid aligned foundation on top of a node that propogated the node through the foundation

[karmic knot]

so jus leave a gap on the node?

[wicked nacelle]

what is this?

[willow glen]

no, you wanted to put foundation on the node didn’t you?

[lost wagon]

can't you? I put foundations on top of nodes and then the miner on top of the foundation, or you mean if you make a tower and put the miner on top of it?

[karmic knot]

yea

[karmic knot]

i have no clue i jus got the game like yesterday

[willow glen]

no gap. 4m foundation should visually clip into the ground

[modest nest]

Check #screenshots

[lost wagon]

but yea, you can put a foundation on top of the node and the miner on top of the foundation

[willow glen]

hence why you might need to vertical nudge

[karmic knot]

ok ty

[lost wagon]

if you want to cheat blueprints can apparently make water extractor get water from dirt lmao

[karmic knot]

how do people have such big factories btw i havent seen anywhere with that much space and resource nodes

[wicked nacelle]

okay, that's cool you CAN put a miner on foundation https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397014655431479396/image.png?ex=68802ec9&is=687edd49&hm=f214ae6d616b16a52b626fd56986efab42481c50b32d07866c48cab2f45ef1a9&

[modest nest]

Yeah

[willow glen]

Bring in the resources from elsewhere, subfactories, and lots and lots of hours. The map is huge.

[karmic knot]

that must be fun

[fathom cliff]

How do you guys plan out the building of your factories because im really struggling. Everytime I keep having to backtrack to make sure the exact amount of materials is going into the machine to make sure its not being underfed or overfed and its completely overloading my brain.

[modest nest]

Satisfactory Modeler on steam

[willow glen]

Subfactories. Every time you add more load onto a node you have to rebalance everything. Instead, go to another node, and use that. Also outside tools like SCIM, SatisfactoryTools, and Modeler

[wicked nacelle]

you don't have to make sure a machine isnt' under/over fed. Just don't care

as long as you're making at least enough of each item for what you want, then you're good

speaking of which... pasta takes forever to backup a manifold

[hard ivy]

I just round up the number the calculator gave me. The only thing I want exact are the machines before a container/sink - I don't want to sink more than I planned, because then something else that shares the resource supply could end up being underfed

But as long as the last machines act as a bottleneck, everything else will get throttled to them

[willow glen]

Ya, it’s a slow recipe, but in the meantime you can check on your copper, cuz that isn’t moving slow anymore

[wicked nacelle]

I've got 2500 powder/m coming into this base. actually more because it's backed up with 10 250% pasta makers

I thought I was done 2 days ago but then I had a slow pasta underproduction that showed up....

[willow glen]

ten fully overclocked particle accelerators? Wow that’s a spicy electric grid lol

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397016399028813834/image.png?ex=68803068&is=687edee8&hm=cb86a5c3ca9daaf7a29af970edc312b73d1c96924e3c2936f19d9719611fc7fd&

[willow glen]

Mines currently having issues because of… rubber? Think I solved it, but I need 3 train round trips to verify, so lots of waiting. Might as well ride the train while I wait

[limpid orchid]

How do i control the side i want to go in a Hypertube?

[willow glen]

OH THATS VERY SPICY

[wicked nacelle]

I had to tear down my power augmenter for sloops so I'm right on the cusp of power. I had 1.1tw

[willow glen]

Gotta space out the entrances a bit, otherwise it’s too easy to enter the wrong one

[limpid orchid]

Do i control it with A and D?

[willow glen]

When you’re in the tube you can control path like that yes, but to pick an entrance you just enter one when you’re close enough.

There’s no way to make sure you enter the correct one other than to walk up to it very carefully, or leave enough space so you don’t have to be careful

[distant pulsar]

yes

[limpid orchid]

What if im Stuck in a loop?

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397017687778918584/image.png?ex=6880319c&is=687ee01c&hm=74ba3eadc008b10f4301892e4c5fbe8b38f679b3fdb54345f1d2946cba724223& you can see my thermal engine manufacturer line in the background and making singularity cells in the foreground

[limpid orchid]

nvm found the respawn buttom

[wicked nacelle]

you can always load a previous (auto)save, too. if you're far from HUB

[wicked nacelle]

and since you're a train enthusiast, here's the trainyard feeding that factory https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397018298918633502/image.png?ex=6880322d&is=687ee0ad&hm=c97e2481a1a5d3b748578aaafc91e6e931782c4f406979d3b71558da03f1e3bf&

[willow glen]

that looks very similar to the singularity facility i just built lol, mines more purple tho
#screenshots message

[wicked nacelle]

very pretty. I had to about double the size of this base and it was painful.. and I had to switch some recipes

[willow glen]

very cute train spaghetti, love it when it functions like that. i got too into factorio tho so all my station designs are simple now, just set of main tracks with branches.

[wicked nacelle]

I don't know how to find the number of trains but I apparently have 606 train cars in this game 🙂

[atomic olive]

okay, so the past few evenings I've found myself staring at satisfactory modeler instead of building factories. help me stop overthinking Aluminum. I don't need to plan for all of the bauxite on the map. it's okay if I just belt in some copper and coal and figure out the grand plan later, yeah?

[wicked nacelle]

build the actual aluminum refineries for how much bauxite you have then work backwards from what that needs.

[trim vine]

So, just start building, the abstract comes into focus quiet quickly once you start

And look at it in smaller chunks, not the whole thing

[wicked nacelle]

I like the default aluminum recipes -- simple wastewater recycling, simple ingredients, and with the produced silica you get pretty good bauxite:aluminum ratio

[willow glen]

even better, train it in! but no seriously, aluminum starts out very heavy, just build a simple loop, at MOST use the entirety of an impure node. once you get some more unlocks and better alts you can come back and expand it.

[atomic olive]

I do have sloppy aluminum and pure ignots which helps. However I have avoided setting up trains which I probably should have done already.

[willow glen]

whats delivering plastic and rubber to your base(s)?

[wicked nacelle]

default alumina and scrap recipes and then use all the silica you get in foundries then process the rest with pure. That combo will EASILY beat the story

[trim vine]

-me and @willow glen stare in helping you set up your trains-

[atomic olive]

I have a local computer factory, and I brute forced phase 3 with some containers. I am not a proud man.

[wicked nacelle]

best time to set up trains was as soon as you got them, next best time is now 🙂

[wicked nacelle]

nothing wrong with brute forcing. earlier elevator automated factories are basically throwaway because the next tier needs SOOO much more

[trim vine]

I cant remember, do you have computers unlocked when you get trains?

[wicked nacelle]

not sure but you need computers for signals, so.....

[atomic olive]

oh I've had trains unlocked for too long, and keep thinking "my factories are too temporary to be worth trains"

[wicked nacelle]

so yeah... i guess "when you unlock signals" 🙂

[trim vine]

makes sense, I remember signals being seperate from trains

[trim vine]

Factories can be temporary, a good rail system is forever, trust me

[willow glen]

ah, but nodes never run out in satisfactory, so once you set up production, even if its inefficient, its probably gonna stay all game! at least mine do

[atomic olive]

my brain emphasizes "good" and then I overthink it lol

[wicked nacelle]

when you build a proper 2-rail highway system you can attach basically as many stations to it as you want

[reef basin]

eh, personally I see most factories as permanent

[trim vine]

for me, good is functional and dynamic

[reef basin]

I don't really see a reason to touch existing factories

[wicked nacelle]

my problem is that I never use sulfur for anything it's not a base recipe requirement for and now I'm out of a bunch of stuff and have a ton of sulfur. so I have to retrofit it back in where it makes sense to free up other stuff.

[atomic olive]

I'll focus on belting/training bauxite down to the coast and go from there.

[trim vine]

Do you need any help starting a rail line?

[ivory condor]

What if its nightmare spaghetti

[reef basin]

and as for "train system", I wouldn't really recommend to "build a train system" in advance

[wicked nacelle]

no, you connect your bases and as you build a new base, connect that. since the whole thing is connected every time you build a new base you have access to all the other bases "for free"

it's the only transportation system in the game that scales like that

[atomic olive]

core friction is a tendency to jump to big picture too quickly, which leads to open-ended planning without actually implementing anything.

[trim vine]

Thats how I did my world, built a loop around, and every time I wanted to open up a new factory, BOOM, just had to rework a junction in

[reef basin]

eh, loop is not good

[trim vine]

por que?

[reef basin]

better build direct rail

so that train doesn't go around

[trim vine]

No no

I built a two lane track around the entire world, not the center

[reef basin]

I know

[willow glen]

a single loop of rail would be bad, but if its a loop of two rails there is actually a very good way to build it, pretty much all around the red forest.

[trim vine]

and then whenever I opened new factories, I had rail already there

[wicked nacelle]

hahaha my map in SCIM is a 2.0GB RAM chrome tab

[reef basin]

but if one factory is in top right and one in bottom left, the train doesn't go diagonally across the map, it has to go around the island

[wicked nacelle]

chrome sitting at a happy 4GB of ram

[trim vine]

I also added cross sections through the center of the map

[reef basin]

same goes from middle north and middle south, etc.

[wicked nacelle]

if you try to use "core routes" or whatever I find they become too busy when you get over 100 trains or so you really want differed and efficient routes to get rid of high-volume interchanges

[trim vine]

Yeaaahhhh.... but if you build all over, or pull resources from all over, then it makes sense, plus I make in alternate "direct" routes as things scaled up

so bottlenecking wasnt really ever an issue, except in the desert, but that was the busiest factory by far

@wicked nacelle

[ivory condor]

I did do a thing in the desert, aka paved over the entire desert with foundations

[karmic knot]

does anyone have some good videos i jus started the game and only really know the basics

[wicked nacelle]

the game guides you quite well -- just do what it says and focus on the next unlock in your HUB

[ivory condor]

kibitz is a popular one

[karmic knot]

ok ty

[willow glen]

i like doc's shorts on youtube

[reef basin]

not great for learning

[ivory condor]

I know, its mostly for advanced players

[karmic knot]

idek im watching this vid and hes like around the same place as me and like 200% further

[reef basin]

it's more for entertainment than learning

[ivory condor]

fair

Still he does show factory design process and idea's, so it isn't the worst to get ideas from

[wicked nacelle]

finally pasta is backed up so I can see what my real compression cube consumption is

[karmic knot]

you got pasta...

gimme some

[dense dagger]

Quick question I am unable to build walls in middle of the grid in builder is there a way to do that???

[karmic knot]

are all the starting areas some where around the map or is it jus 1 biome

[distant pulsar]

It's 1 big map, the 4 starting areas are just different locations

[leaden ether]

All one map, different areas

[karmic knot]

ok ty

[bitter agate]

Wait hold up, where's the current main menu location in game?

[placid stirrup]

Are you doing it on a foundation?

[atomic siren]

any of these worth it
#screenshots message

tier 5-6

[dense violet]

both yes.

[reef basin]

all recipes are worth it in some scenarios

[atomic siren]

wait which one I accidentally pressed rescan

like the image that was there a min ago?

[dense violet]

quickwire and circuit boards?

[atomic siren]

yeah thats there rn

[dense violet]

but like greeny said, all recipes have their uses.

choose based on what you might use next

[atomic siren]

alright basically none of them but maybe itll be useful in some scenario

[reef basin]

if you don't know, just flip a coin or keep them for later (or reroll)

[dense violet]

Well the fused QW extends your caterium by adding copper.

Can be very useful.

and the circuit board ones changes the resources you need, which can have it's uses 🙂

[versed plinth]

anyone know why the fine black powder recipe exists

[quiet gust]

then save them. Also what i have learned is to wait to claim any alts until whatever hard drives you have are done scanning. and if you need both alts from a selection, pick one immediately, ignoring the first rule

[dense violet]

!wikisearch powder

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=powder

[quiet gust]

isnt it more reasource effiecient but less space effecient?

[atomic siren]

Good idea

[atomic siren]

picked the fused qw, I guess it might be a bit more useful in the future if I need to pump out a ton

[versed plinth]

uhhhh ig it saves one singular coal per black powder?

[dense violet]

yup! the circuit board one is great flexibility as it swaps out the base resources needed 🙂

[reef basin]

that's still more than saving 0

[quiet gust]

i mean its still better, thats one more coal that can go to diamonds

[versed plinth]

yeah

when i get there... anyways back to my weapons factory

how much smokeless powder should i make

i doubt i need much

[reef basin]

however many you need

[quiet gust]

do the math first

weapons ffactories are weird

i sent that message 3 seconds before landing and saved myself im very proud

[dense violet]

with ammunition stuff you can often jsut manage with temp production. One way biocoal is good, dump dead critters in a bin and get bullets

[versed plinth]

problem is that it wants oil residue for smokeless

[quiet gust]

yerp

whats ur starting loc

[versed plinth]

which is real stinkin annoying to deal with

[reef basin]

why so

[dense violet]

still removes the need for coal nearby that way 🙂

[versed plinth]

yes

[quiet gust]

cause few places have sulfur and oil as close as you want

[versed plinth]

it may be easier to make this stuff over in the crater lake

[quiet gust]

green fields start?

[versed plinth]

ye

[quiet gust]

yep

the best place for weapons factory is the biome north of the north forrest, the abyss cliffs or the blue crator imo

[versed plinth]

well i now have sulfur and coal with a train line to my fuel plant

so thats a thing

wondering if i should tear it up and do it elsewhere

i dont really wanna mess with the fuel plant tbh

[quiet gust]

I have 2 aluminum factories right next to each other, one never has stopped working, the other stops working every now and again

why

[reef basin]

because you built something wrong

[quiet gust]

i know

its a retorical question

[dense violet]

are you mixing the fresh and waste water?

[quiet gust]

noe

[dense violet]

are you sinking the end product at some point so it's stable?

[quiet gust]

several times in the cahain, the only difference was i forgor to do it for the coke on the system that keeps failing

then i forgot to flush the water after so imma try that and see if it works

[dense violet]

why would the coke system fail?

[quiet gust]

idk there was too much coke or something

i also have an overflow pipe output thing which gets canisters from the hor for the coke

i have one more idea, the water on the output is one stackable pole higher than the system that works

and i tried a weird loop sytem with that one

[dense violet]

well follow the issue backwards.

is why is hte alum stopping? is it clogged or starved?

if clogged follow it forward, if starved , follow it backwards

[versed plinth]

ok it appear

it would appear* that trains dont like hills

[quiet gust]

water clogged

[versed plinth]

my transfer rate is 178/min...

[quiet gust]

ifg the incline is more than a 2m ramp it has a heart attack

[dense violet]

the scrap machines are water clogged? it sounds like your machines processing the waste water have an issue

[quiet gust]

Mavchine* its small scale i wanna practise before mega aluminum stuff

i have 4 machines

[dense violet]

well if you can't figure it out do some overhead images of your set up in a #1038092680493801533 post

[quiet gust]

ill come back in aafew hours and see if it fails

[jaunty jewel]

good morning

[quiet gust]

I now forgot to connect apipe lmao, but that is unrelated to the main problem

[quiet gust]

happy morn

In happier new my rocket fuel plant fixed itself

[versed plinth]

i may be overbuilding black powder

[quiet gust]

I think

[jaunty jewel]

tis the third hour and i woke up half an hour aho

[versed plinth]

perchance

[quiet gust]

you need like 100 per min max

[versed plinth]

well i just kinda plopped some 8x assembler arrays down cus reasons

and it'll produce 360/min

[wicked nacelle]

if there were just one more nitrogen source on this dang map 😦

[quiet gust]

iits called bauxite + sam 🙃

[wicked nacelle]

I need nitrogen because I'm out of bauxite

[quiet gust]

?

its called caterium + sam

or quartz + sam

[wicked nacelle]

switched to fuel frames because I don't have enough aluminum to make them with standard recipe

[jaunty jewel]

how on earth are you using all the alu

[quiet gust]

80 bwd per min

[wicked nacelle]

apparently you can do nearly double that but I'm trying to fully stabilize without looking at the specific layout that the "max points" guide says

so I'm just not using the right combination of alts

[quiet gust]

ok idk if this was related to my problem but apperently my crude oil pipe had a heart attack and slightly too little head life

[atomic olive]

the satisfaction when you find the one piece of mk 3 belt slowing down everything

[quiet gust]

so far my doggos have gifted 8 nukes

[dense violet]

a good argument for using your fastest belt everywhere 🙂

[atomic olive]

they were at the time I first placed them.

[dense violet]

ah xD were you also putting splitters directly onto the belts? that can hinder the upgrading process

[jaunty jewel]

the mk5 belt that caused me 4 hours of troubleshooting that im convinced was shorter than what the game normally allows:

[atomic olive]

it was a small segment between a ceiling mount and a splitter before a manifold I just extended.

[dense violet]

ah yeah that can happen 🙂

[atomic olive]

so easy to miss

[quiet gust]

til presure cubes take 60 hits to hand craft lmao

[atomic olive]

I have gotten into the habit of dropping a throughput monitor on any output/input belts when expanding something in place. super handy even if I deonstruct them 2 minutes later

[wicked nacelle]

is there a "beam hack" or whatever to put a sign on the top (flat) of a container? -- oh yeah, you can

[quiet gust]

TIL you cant hand craft singularity cells

[dawn ravine]

I am once again wracking my brain over trying to set up efficient train systems

[dense violet]

two lanes, stations off the side, main line passing nearby at least so you can make branches going to hubs

[wicked nacelle]

coupon stack size is annoyingly small

[ruby mountain]

500s small?

[dawn ravine]

I just barely slogged my way through the phase 3 project parts and now I'm starting to realize just how abysmal my current infrastructure is

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397043632569188462/image.png?ex=688049c5&is=687ef845&hm=c80220edcc8188728405a11109b507ff23c9df7852d1ae6a4f0da708dd78c187& going to have to make another container soon

[ruby mountain]

spend them already 😭

[tranquil hemlock]

Me: "Awesome. After many hours, I've finished branching off the framework for my rail system, and I can start placing the rail."
My rail framework: #screenshots message

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1397043957619232919/image.png?ex=68804a13&is=687ef893&hm=31e55e3394c519df98531ed29ee86f067e553e1cd2fe5dcb6de4f31a4f9d7955& good advice 🙂 -- it's twice the density

[lament pelican]

once upon a time... you could put the coupons back in the ticket dispenser on the sink, not sure the stack size applies

[shy fog]

you can still feed a ticket into the sink...

[lament pelican]

heh, thats a little different

[quiet gust]

chat iforgot one power connection and it made me lose 12gw lmao

[quiet gust]

doesnt that give the eloninator 5000

[shy fog]

I wonder if you can assign that to a route...

[ruby mountain]

you can

[terse kindle]

Are there any biomes that are recommended to save to use for the production of a particular component? For instance the blue crater for rocket fuel.

[dense violet]

not really since no one knows what your production goals will be or what recipes you'll use

there's also more resources on the map than you can hope to use

[placid stirrup]

Travel to the fluids

That's about it

[dense violet]

and even that is really flexible with a bit of fluid knowhow

[placid stirrup]

Didn't want to overwhelm anyone 😜

[dense violet]

hence the knowhow caveat 😄

[terse kindle]

I guess my question could be rephrased as “perfectly suited for” rather than “recommended”.

[dense violet]

again that comes under what recipes you use :\

for example the area north of the swamp is pretty great for a large volume of super computers with the right recipes. But it can surely be used for dozens of other things

and the east swamp has essentially every resources you need for t1-9 production within a stone's throw

you could have everything produced just from that biome

[stray loom]

Including a crippling fear of arachnids

[plucky seal]

Nothing some high explosives can’t fix

[terse kindle]

Very cool

[dense violet]

and with the existence of drones to drone in a resource type or two, that opens up all the zones to so much

[charred snow]

do i need automated wiring for anything other than the space elevator?

[dense violet]

!wikisearch automated_wiring

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=automated_wiring

[versed plinth]

how do you guys name train stations

[plucky seal]

I’ve got a question, what are those tiny water spouts that have pure or impure water for

[stray loom]

No but you need more of it than any other part overall

[dense violet]

another machine type

[terse kindle]

I came across the blue crater and just thought damn, it’s like they’re just begging you to make rocket fuel here. So I wondered if there were other instances I may have missed

[plucky seal]

Oh is it for a generator?

[ruby mountain]

click on the name

[dense violet]

suitable for nuclear too. or large amounts of bauxite
rocket fuel is extremely skipable after all

[versed plinth]

no i mean like a naming scheme

[dense violet]

it outputs water yes 🙂 same with gas and oil

[versed plinth]

like "biome, car 1, car 2, car x" or?

[dense violet]

generally just Resource type with a parts per min

[leaden ether]

It's an alternative source of water, usually placed where other sources of water are far away. It's not a LOT of water, but in some cases it can be handy.

[versed plinth]

what if there's multiple

[dense violet]

like coal - 600 - 600 -300

[plucky seal]

Ah, found it on the wiki, T8 resource wells

[dense violet]

use a short hand of some sort

[versed plinth]

no like iron + copper

at the same station

[dense violet]

I+C 200 , 200 for example

[versed plinth]

hmm

ok ill try this and see how i like it

[stray loom]

I'll name it for what the factory is making and whether it's an input or output station. So like Modular Frames Input or Computers Output

[dense violet]

either that or give it normal names and just have a small list of what the stations do next to you

[stray loom]

If I need multiple inputs then I add a letter

A , B, etc

[versed plinth]

should i have a station for each full belt of input?

for example, if I have 3 pure nodes, should i have 3 stations?

[plucky seal]

I usually just color coordinate and then name them what they’re offloading or loading

[dense violet]

3 platforms will do

if they're going to the same spot

[stray loom]

You could but you could also just run a single train and feed each node into it's own train car

[versed plinth]

i meant platform my bad

so if you have 3 belts of iron + 1 belt of copper, have 4 platforms?

[dense violet]

you generally can't move more than 1 full belt per platform. Sometimes less, so it's a good start

[versed plinth]

ah alrighty

[dense violet]

you might have to have 2 trains doing the same route depending on travel time

[versed plinth]

i really need to unlock rail signals...

i may have neglected it 😵‍💫

[dense violet]

that should be unlocked as soon as you unlock trains?

[versed plinth]

its a separate milestone :/

[dense violet]

how weird. Shouldn't be much effort for it though

[versed plinth]

i just dont have computers yet

[dense violet]

buy some with tickets? or hand craft a few

or crash sites

[versed plinth]

OH RIGHT

i forgot you could buy them with tickets

[dense violet]

hand crafting should be quick though

[versed plinth]

actually you cant

well i cant anyways

[dense violet]

you can't?

maybe that changed in 1.0

[dawn ravine]

I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to renovate all of my production lines in my save

[hoary rose]

I need a opinion what should I work on after I finished steel

1 do aluminum
2 do a crystal oscillator factory
3 computer factory

[dawn ravine]

everthing is so painfully inefficient atm

[dense violet]

just keep ploding along. Build new things. Unlock everything and build your own projects after 🙂

[dense violet]

aluminium gets you faster belts and miners

[atomic olive]

could do what I did: decide to expand your fuel plant even though you have more than enough power, but that pure oil node hasn't been OCed yet...

[dense violet]

will change how you play teh rest of things

[hoary rose]

Yeah but I don’t have computers or Crystal oscillator aluminum is pretty easy to do I have done it before

[atomic olive]

I feel like getting to aluminum without automating computers would be... painful.

[hoary rose]

Yeah

[dense violet]

if you do caterium CB and computers it can be pretty fast to set up too 🙂

[hoary rose]

I think I am going to do computer and crystal oscillator

[dense violet]

crystal computers could make it into one factory then 😄

[silk ocean]

Blueprints seem cool, but compared to Factorio, they give me nightmares, drag CTRL+C / CTRL+V please xD