satisfactory

[silk ocean]

lol yea, that's a lot of fuel generators XD

[ashen spruce]

It's 80ish

unoverclocked

[silk ocean]

on Rocket Fuel?

[ashen spruce]

Turbo

[silk ocean]

I have 24 on Turbo Fuel down south in the dreaded swamp, but not overclocked, need to haul in more oil

[ashen spruce]

I use Blue Crater Lake for Fuel Setups

[fathom shuttle]

Just noticed I have 1135 coupons

They build up very fast

[silk ocean]

Ah yes, a decent number of oil veins there

[vestal mica]

80 fuel generators at 100% doesn't even cover that one particle accelerator

[ashen spruce]

2.550/min fully overclocked

[silk ocean]

Black Gold down in that crater there be xD

[ashen spruce]

Is enough to fuel 170ish Turbofuel Powerplants without oc.

[vestal mica]

much less 59x

[silk ocean]

It's clearly something that has to be done, Ficsit will demand it or I will be in the office for not exploiting enough resources xD

[cedar portal]

What are you sinking? I'm currently sinking warp drives at 20/min

[fathom shuttle]

How many slots is a rail car?

[fathom shuttle]

Just thermal propulsion rockets for now

Ok so the nuclear power build starts today

I’ve already wrote down what I need to get started

[lean ferry]

I just realised I need to make more power 💔

diluted packaged fuel

[cedar portal]

Going to run uranium->sink or uranium->plutonium->storage?

[fathom shuttle]

The latter

What I need to do first is something I’ve put off for a month now

[cedar portal]

I should do that... would be an easy way to get more power but the ineffecency of it bothers me. 🙂

[fathom shuttle]

I need to turn the polymer resin into plastic and rubber from my fuel factory

[ashen spruce]

I love Blade Runners, fast way to move around with bunny hopping.

[fathom shuttle]

Well it’s the most effective way of doing things

[ashen spruce]

But I like Nuclear Nobelisk EVEN more!

You can just stack 10 behind something, go to the other side and hit it with your xeno basher

[fathom shuttle]

I know it’s not truly automated but whatever, if they want people to use ficsonium they should make it worthwhile

[ashen spruce]

Then you can go around the world thrice.

[cedar portal]

The awful implemntation of Ficsonium is the only thing in the entire game I actually hate and think they screwed up bigtime on. Everything else is wonderful.

[ashen spruce]

Is it not?

[fathom shuttle]

Or not, I have 600 extra plastic production

I guess I can kick the can down the road forever lol

[fathom shuttle]

Replying to the residual rubber into plastic btw wrong reply

[cedar portal]

Making Ficsonium costs more than you get by burning it.

[ashen spruce]

Without overclocking?

[fathom shuttle]

And SAM as well, if they made it so that you can make it out of converters using only power then it would be a balanced way to do it
It severely limits what mega projects you can do

[ashen spruce]

I mean, it is worth, because it doesn't produce Waste.

[cedar portal]

But I don't produce waste now either. So Ficsonium lets me burn plutionium and turn it into Fic and burn it but it's sso damn energy expensive to make the Fic that at least for me, it uses as much power as I get out of it, inclusing the extra frm burning plutonium. Plus needing to eat all the SAM on the planet

[open pollen]

You can sink plutonium fuel rods, so technically you produce no waste at that stage as well

[fathom shuttle]

How many uploaders should I use for the plastic

[ashen spruce]

But you lose out on a lot of power.

[ashen spruce]

How much are you making?

[hard ivy]

you lose out even more on resources by making ficsonium 🤷‍♂️

[ashen spruce]

Making a lot more power.

Fair Trade ngl

[fathom shuttle]

You don’t make more power with ficsonium tho

[hard ivy]

you can just make more uranium rods and make even more power

[ashen spruce]

But you can burn Plutonium Rods.

[cedar portal]

I have 45 uranium reactors and wanted to use up all the waste but it eats up too many resources. So i scaled it down so I'm only making 8 Fisconium rods a minutee.

[hard ivy]

ficsonium is only more power per uranium ore. which is a pretty meaningless metric

[fathom shuttle]

Ok the REAL start for the nuclear power station is now

[ashen spruce]

Is that not literally making more power out of less? 😭

[fathom shuttle]

I need to grab silica and uranium first

[hard ivy]

more power out of less uranium, yes.

[cedar portal]

The emachines to make the Ficsonium and all it's required materials use a TON of power.

[ashen spruce]

2 years later
"NOW I will begin!"
50 years later
"I'm too old for this crap..."

[fathom shuttle]

I decided to start last week btw lol

[hard ivy]

if you for some reason care about uranium more than anything else, then sure, it's good

[barren leaf]

Why is my single water extractor not enough for my single coal generator? The pipes are all on a slope so I dont need the pump im pretty sure

[fathom shuttle]

But nah I’m actually starting now
I needed to automate powershards, get mk6 belts, upgrade aluminum for allat

[cedar portal]

Much better to use the SAM ore to make more uranium too

[hard ivy]

exactly

[fathom shuttle]

How many generators and are you overclocking them

[fathom shuttle]

You can get 1TW of clean uranium power I think

Or not I think it’s 650GW or something like that

[open pollen]

It depends on how high the pipes are going if you need a pump or not

[fathom shuttle]

And 1.4TW if you burn the plutonium rods and store the waste

[open pollen]

Wait did you mean slope upward or downward?

[barren leaf]

i had two and overclocked both once but now it cant even hold a single unclocked gen

[barren leaf]

slope downward

[ashen spruce]

2.5 if you don't overclock/underclock per Quantum Encoder, makes 6.125 MW, how much does the production use?

[dense violet]

show an overhead image of what you're doing

[open pollen]

This might be a #1038092680493801533 thing and with a bunch of screenshots

[barren leaf]

yeah i'll take it over there thanks

[fathom shuttle]

Rail cars are 32 slots right?

[open pollen]

It’d be easier for people to answer when they can see what is going on

[cedar portal]

I'm not at my nuclear plant to check but the encoder peaks at 2mw and you need several particle accelerators and converters and a large amount of SAM ore. I think 400/min of raw SAM ore just for that one encoder, not to mention the dark crystals needed for several other products.

[vestal mica]

the power cost of ficsonium isn't the issue. being able to burn the plutonium and ficsonium rods more than covers it. the resource costs are excessively high though. if you're trying to min-max the whole map and get like max phase 5 space elevator parts, ficsonium rods is a waste

[ashen spruce]

ok, idc anymore (I just wanna play now 🙏)

[vestal mica]

if you're not worried about maxing out every resource on the map, and just like to do things for the challenge, it can be fun

[cedar portal]

My work here is done 😄

[hard ivy]

even if you're not trying to max it, per MW of usable, waste-free power, sinking plutonium is easier and cheaper than making ficsonium

[fathom shuttle]

It’s time for me to venture into the unknown

Gonna visit the highest cliff in the game for uranium

[ashen spruce]

I just don't wanna do the math.

[cedar portal]

I have a single Quantum Encoder making fisconium just to make use of all the infrastructure I built for it. I of course put 3 sshards and looped it so it eats like 25mw lol

[vestal mica]

thanks for repeating what i said i guess

[daring stag]

the quartz that pings east of the western islands, that's in a big cave filled with stingers right?

[tawdry plank]

Nuke that cave

[silk ocean]

Time for Nuke Nobelisks

[tall plover]

MW or GW?

[silk ocean]

Good News! We nuked the cave and all the spiders are dead. Bad News! The cave collapsed and the Quartz is inaccessible xD

[ashen spruce]

ok check screenshots

[cedar portal]

Right, gigawats.

[fathom shuttle]

IVE REACHED THE WORLD HIGHEST CLIFF LETS GOO

[ashen spruce]

easy haha

[silk ocean]

The Uranium one?

[fathom shuttle]

Damn the world looks kinda small from here

[foggy heart]

with a pipe manifold, if my input is in the middle of the manifold, do i still need to loop it?

[hard ivy]

you don't need to loop it regardless

[fathom shuttle]

I can see the copper foundries in the dune desert, my plastic and rubber factory in the red forest, and my aluminum factory in the bamboo fields

Kind of impressed by the render distance

[fathom shuttle]

Yea

Got the achievement too

[silk ocean]

Yep xD

[reef basin]

loop never hurts, but in some cases it's not needed

[foggy heart]

#screenshots please tell me this is gonna work xD

[fathom shuttle]

This will be my first game to 100%

[foggy heart]

also, my pipes are only be transporting 400/m, will it work if my mk2 pipe isnt filled 100%?

[fathom shuttle]

It’s an impure node?

Kinda disappointing ngl

[white dawn]

Should be fine; keeping below the throughput limit on pipes is actually often a good way to avoid problems in general

Pipes get most picky when you're trying to push their exact throughput limit

[bitter agate]

I usually cap the pipe and make sure i'm getting 100%

[foggy heart]

aha nice

[hard ivy]

bottom feeding isn't a great idea

[fathom shuttle]

Should work with 400/min tho

[radiant swallow]

can someone explain to me why my blueprint isnt being built the way i turned it? i make it face away from me and it's being built 90° turned to the left no matter how i turn it

[neon thunder]

i'm still a noob in bluprints so i'm not 100% sure

but depending on the orientation of how you build it in the first place

when you put down the bluprintmaker and start building the machines inside it
where is the front of the block you are making?
like where you interact with the blueprint maker is the "north point" of the blueprints

[radiant swallow]

the north point is pointing exactly "north" when i place it, but i specifically turn it and have it on that it should be clipping to the other foundations....

uuuuuugh

why even have a stupid rotation function when it wont let me do it lol

i just want to place my rail blueprints and be done with it

[frozen cloud]

no
feeding in the middle and loop are the exact same thing
both split 600 into 2x 300

[ashen spruce]

the direction the terminal is in is south.

Also, you can still rotate the blueprint how you'd like.

[radiant swallow]

apparently not because when i do, it automatically turns my blueprint when i want to place it aligned with my other foundations for my railnetwork

[frail sleet]

coming around to this as a whole honestly

feed in middle is probably fine

if not fine then add 1 more junction and stick the sides into each end

but depending on the layout, a 600/600 split into 200+200+200 or 300+300 can be nice too

[frozen cloud]

ye ive been doing that for a while
fuck loops

[silk ocean]

Have you ever gone into one of your Hypercannons, only to strike the belly of a drone and get kicked downwards, which would be fine until you notice that you just ran out of Fuel in your Jetpack and there is a spiderden in your landing zone

[radiant swallow]

i think my problem with the blueprints is that it's sloped foundations

they seem to be a big buggy?

[vivid dock]

anyone want to join me on a twitch series play through, 2 days into it. NA english 18+

[hard ivy]

#1201555265942724758

[fathom shuttle]

Can a single drone port handle 600/min uranium over 2km?

[white dawn]

Try it and see! The two factors are stack size and round-trip time (and round-trip time will be affected by fuel type, etc)

If one doesn't end up being sufficient, you can add a second

[silk ocean]

Not sure but the main inefficiency with drones seems to be how long it takes them to descend, and dock, and do the reverse, it gives you a /min rate once operational

[fathom shuttle]

Meh I’ll just do two since it’s a nuclear power plant

4 drones just for 600/min uranium

[silk ocean]

Two drones doesn't necessarily help, unless one drone's cargo is full on each run

[hard ivy]

it can't even handle it over 10m

[silk ocean]

Just use buffer storage

[austere pendant]

i joined my serwer as "new player" and im still logged in all accounts, what happened here

[vivid dock]

whats the best way to go about creating steel frames?

[fathom shuttle]

Drones have a max internal storage of 6 stacks

[white dawn]

9. :)

[cedar portal]

4 drones can deliver to a single drone port so you only need 5 in total.

[silk ocean]

Yea if one drone can't shift enough, sure, add another

You might be getting into the territory of trains if you need 600/min

[white dawn]

Though it's easy enough to just Add Moar Drone Ports, too. :D

[silk ocean]

True xD

[white dawn]

I actually ended up doing All Drones for my 1.0 nuclear setup. Literally the only material that wasn't droned in was the sulfur, which happened to be right nearby., :P

[silk ocean]

I went the opposite for my main nuclear, I set up dedicated sites for all production, and belt it in, can't risk it going offline when a drone runs out of fuel or something 😉

[fathom shuttle]

I only need to drone in silica and uranium

[white dawn]

Just don't let your drones run out of fuel. :D

[fathom shuttle]

The rest is nearby so I’ll just use a belt and pipe highway

[fathom shuttle]

I have 100k in buffers + 600/min production

[lean ferry]

me so smart

i made a refinery for rubber, sinked all the rubber and made heavy oil residue from it, then made diluted packaged fuel

[fathom shuttle]

Use heavy oil residue alternate

[lean ferry]

then with that I unpackaged it, send the canister back to water packager, and made alot of turbofuel

[lean ferry]

im tryna get it thats the thing

[still glen]

is there any point in unlocking compact coal?

[lean ferry]

the one in sulfur resesarch tree?

[still glen]

yup

[hard ivy]

not until tier 8 imo

[fathom shuttle]

Yea for turbo fuel I think

[lean ferry]

yes definetly u get turbofuel

[lean ferry]

u need it to make turbofuel

[hard ivy]

and?

[fathom shuttle]

But turbo fuel isn’t really good so not really

[still glen]

bruh

[lean ferry]

how did u get ur power from tier 5-7 then

[silk ocean]

It's powerful for the jetpack, really gives it a kick, but it burns fast

[hard ivy]

fuel?

[fathom shuttle]

I think you can make steel with but each foundry only outputs 10/min

[lean ferry]

u need alot of it

[hard ivy]

and?

it's easier than turbo

[fathom shuttle]

1200 oil -> 3600 fuel is 40GW

[lean ferry]

yh but my inner ficsit

"be efficient use all resources"

[silk ocean]

Dimensional Depot xD

[lean ferry]

ah yes dimensional depot for fuel generator

[silk ocean]

Well, for packaged Turbofuel xD

[lean ferry]

fuel might be better but imo turbofuel is worth it its only slightly more

[silk ocean]

Turbofuel gives the Jetpack a massive kick, you can get to higher heights for sure

[fathom shuttle]

Turbo fuel is better if it’s the only thing you have, but you unlock rocket fuel with it so it’s kinda useless

[silk ocean]

Blip it, don't hold space

More efficient to blip

[still glen]

so what am i doing LMAO

[fathom shuttle]

Rocket fuel is 3x

[hard ivy]

not higher than liquid biofuel tho

[silk ocean]

Yea that is on the TODO list xD

[lean ferry]

btw what is better nitro rocekt or normal rocket fuel

[fathom shuttle]

Nitro

[silk ocean]

Oh fair, I didn't know that

[hard ivy]

depends

[frozen cloud]

nitro is easy
defl is efficient

[lean ferry]

defl?

[frozen cloud]

default

[daring stag]

my train sucks anyone have a recommendation for 2 lanes but still simple setup plz

I need quartz that's on the other side of the map but it will kill my single track

[frozen cloud]

just belt it

[fathom shuttle]

Use a 2 way train

[haughty flax]

these phase 4 project parts got me feeling some kinda way

[daring stag]

yeah but how do you handle the terminus at both ends

[fathom shuttle]

None of them are hard imo

[frozen cloud]

hungry? cause pasta?

[fathom shuttle]

I got a quick and dirty way to get pasta pretty quick, took me 2 hours to gather enough copper for 10/min

[dreamy scroll]

Try not to say "it's not hard imo" challenge

[lean ferry]

just boil it -_-

put the "tomato" powder

[daring stag]

anyone goes on hunting sessions when you're overwhelmed by this rube goldberg factory of yours

stingers are relaxing compared to my now tier 8 base

[lean ferry]

whats the point of bases?

like to keep all ur stuff in there?

[daring stag]

giving rocket components to my employer Ficsit

[twilit escarp]

Guys i need someone opinion on the design:
Making a factory where first floor is logistics, second is for machines, third is another logistics, 4th is machines, and it repeats like that where you have logistics and machine floors swapping, i feel like this makes the factory have so much "empty space" but on the other hand it makes it cleaner. Any toughts?

[daring stag]

I just wing it

[frozen cloud]

just make a large plane and dont stack imo

[crude canyon]

how are you going to deal with putting logistics from floor 1 to floor 4?

[daring stag]

tried the floor stuff, I prefer a big garbage city

[crude canyon]

or rather, logistics floor 1 to logistics floor 3

[twilit escarp]

that is another part of the issue, bringing stuff from one logistic to the next

but on the current factory it inst as big issue cause i am doing elevators from floor 1 to 3 and using them also as "decoration"

but i feel like for future projects it might not be as good

maybe having a logistics wall?

[crude canyon]

I've thought about a logistics pillar before

[trim vine]

I find "Item Spines" on the outside of the factory are better for moving things up to higher floors, and you can build cool structures around them to make them look neat

[mortal ginkgo]

yes I do that and it works perfectly. I sent stuff above or below (mostly above) in wall decorations

I got at least 2 foundation thicc walls, so 1 foundation thiccness can be used for transfering stuff around

like conveyor elevator that is hidden

[twilit escarp]

another issue i can see is: how to go from floor 2 to 4

do i make floor 3 open or closed?

(i dont have elevator yet)

[mortal ginkgo]

have a ladder if you must, but elevators are extremely early

I think you can get it at "engine" stage

[twilit escarp]

on current save i am just making steel factory atm

[crude canyon]

You will need some openings for items and people to go through

[ashen spruce]

Did you know you could unlock another helmet in the game world?

[mortal ginkgo]

yes

[ashen spruce]

Did you know you can find a Xeno Basher in the Game world too?

[mortal ginkgo]

nope, not surprising though considering you can get jetpack from a monster

[ashen spruce]

Blade Runners?

Did you know you could find Iron on the planet? 🤓

[dreamy scroll]

Unverified

[ashen spruce]

zis too real

ADA said "be assured, scans of the planet have shown sufficient iron deposits"

[smoky forge]

[dreamy scroll]

Good old reliable ADA

[autumn skiff]

question, if i take out screws from a container with a level 1 conveyor belt (can transport 60/min) to a machine that requires 60 per minute, would it work without overflow and 'underflow'?

[twilit escarp]

yeah thats what i also strugle to see

[ashen spruce]

BUT, not in your FICSIT® designated area!

[gilded goblet]

wouldn't it just be right at the correct margin?

like no under or overflow

[crude canyon]

do you have something yet that we can see?

[autumn skiff]

yeah thats what i thought too but i came here to ask just in case

[gilded goblet]

fair

[autumn skiff]

ty

[ashen spruce]

They making Steel Factory?

[crude canyon]

ye

[gilded goblet]

i'm not too knowledgeable but i think that might be the case

i can test if you want bali

[twilit escarp]

yeah, just finished first floor

[hard ivy]

do not put containers in the middle of production

[twilit escarp]

i cant send a print here so...

[gilded goblet]

they could also be pulling from their main supply of screws

[crude canyon]

send it in the screenshots channel

[twilit escarp]

wait a sec, grabing some more concrete

[lusty basin]

Does the new TikTok satisfactory release mean VR is coming?

[autumn skiff]

well i want to half the amount of created screws so that half can go to an assembler to make reinforced iron plates and other half are for me to use or for future production

what do i do then

quick note: im in the early game

[white dawn]

No, though it could mean ramping up to the console release

[shy mulch]

if you're automating stuff then you don't need to store materials like that

[hard ivy]

split it in half, half goes to conainer, half to the assembler

[autumn skiff]

oh yeah i can do that..

[hard ivy]

or have separate production for yourself and for further processing

[autumn skiff]

well i dont need 120 screws per min

but good idea

[silk ocean]

You don't need 120 screws per min, you need 2400 screws per min 😈

[twilit escarp]

#screenshots message

[lavish lance]

screw this

[hard ivy]

unless you get the right alts, then you need 0

[silk ocean]

Yah xD

[autumn skiff]

was that on purpose or

[lavish lance]

yes

[autumn skiff]

we were just talking about screws 😭

[silk ocean]

Get HDD hunting.. Shame they aren't SSDs.. 10 minutes to scan spinning rust.. Just typical xD

[crude canyon]

The logistics floor seems low, and hard to move around in

what happens when you get solid steel?

[twilit escarp]

wdym low? i should make it even higher?

i made it so that i can have 3 stacked belts inside (i dont plan on having close to that)

[crude canyon]

but what if you want to move around in it

[twilit escarp]

i can rn

[crude canyon]

alright, if it's good for you it's ok then

[twilit escarp]

i plan on expanding it in the future, but that plan consist on expanding foward anyway

now if you tell me "can i bring more mats from outside to make it bigger, well, then i would have an issue

[woven violet]

since when were we able to mod satisfactory?

[stray loom]

Logi floor is meant to be a Lovecraftian Cthuluesque nightmare of hidden clipping belts and the worst spaghetti known to man. But you don't see it so it's all ok 👌

You don't actually go there

[twilit escarp]

but i am going with the logic "i work with what i have " else i would be still making my first iron factory XD

[crude canyon]

i think from a very long time, I was able to in update 8

[twilit escarp]

trying the "make something now and fix in the future " aproach

[ashen spruce]

For a long long time.

[gilded goblet]

can conveyor lifts do up and down?

[ashen spruce]

Update 2 or 3 I think (might be wrong)

[ashen spruce]

That's obvious.

[woven violet]

i need to do some specific things to able to mod or ?

[gilded goblet]

well it's a conveyor LIFT so i just wanted to clarify

[crude canyon]

you know what? Respect
I'm the exact opposite and get nothing done.
And once I mastered it, I get bored because I keep doing the same thing

[twilit escarp]

also i rly need steel to get into steel to get sam fluctuators to make the OP storage

[ashen spruce]

download the SMM, but if you want additional instructions, go to the satisfactory modding website or the discord.

[woven violet]

alr thanks

[stray loom]

A lift going down is just a lift moving in the negative direction. Just like braking is still acceleration. Just in the negative direction

[crude canyon]

yeah the game changes around steel

before steel it's survival mode, after steel it's creative

[twilit escarp]

tbh i am also like that, and i spent soo long on tier 1 trying to make something better cause i knew " i need to make this ready for t2 belts, and even t3 belts and t2 miners " when i didnt even had foundations KEKW

[lean ferry]

yooo the idea with catwalk and stairs looks rlly good

[twilit escarp]

wait what idea?

[lean ferry]

ur steel factory, how u put the stairs and catwalk between foundries

in screenshots

I might do that (sorry for stealing ur idea)

[twilit escarp]

hoo yeah, walking arround the elevators is pain, so catwalk it is

[ashen spruce]

haha, I unlocked it in Tier 1.

[twilit escarp]

dw, i also stole from someone else

[crude canyon]

I also like how he put some space between the lift and the machine, so he can see if the items are there or not

[twilit escarp]

i made many times in the past they so close, that there was no belt there, and to debug it was a pain

[lean ferry]

how much aluminium should I aim to produce? like sheets, and casings

[twilit escarp]

looked better, but was so exponentialy harder to find an issue

[crude canyon]

personally, I'd just put the manifold up and the connections down
the manifold is kinda boring in terms of functionality

[lean ferry]

I have a lake and one pure bauxite node (idk about copper)

[fair rivet]

i may be dumb
i got to the "build a space elevator" step for the first time ever, and didn't set another milestone
i only figured it out when i realized i should probably have foundations, splitters, and mergers by now, but couldn't find them in my build menu

[twilit escarp]

wdym manifold up?

[hard ivy]

60-120/min each for personal use? Idk

[crude canyon]

the connections of each machine

[lean ferry]

i might do like 120 sheet and 60 casings

you guys have played alot of it do I need alot of casings or not

[daring stag]

if you have double track train, does that mean that each station becomes 2 station, one for each direction

[crude canyon]

I'd keep the splitters on the floor above

[wary parrot]

is there a way for foundations to be autamatically painted a colour

[stray loom]

You make a branch off to the side to put a station that can be accessed from either direction

[leaden turret]

change default swatch

[wary parrot]

THX

[daring stag]

hum I see, I think

[wary parrot]

how tho i want it concrete material

[daring stag]

my trains will collide tho

[stray loom]

Signals

[daring stag]

I tried to find a drawing of a train system but couldnt find.. only 1hour+ youtube videos

[lean ferry]

I think u have to replace them if u wna change material

[wary parrot]

😦

[twilit escarp]

can you show what you talking about? i dont quite understund wdym

[gilded goblet]

I should have taken the cast screws alternative recipie

[hard ivy]

Nah

[dusk rivet]

Does using a save editor disable achievements? I’d like to wipe a factory and I’d rather not have to by hand.

[frail sleet]

nop

[leaden turret]

nope, but you can change the session name on scim while you're there just to be safe

[dusk rivet]

Coolio

[crude canyon]

#screenshots message

[sturdy pivot]

is there a keybind that cancels my hover mode? or do i have to hit crouch/swap jetpack every time?

[crude canyon]

double crouch

[sturdy pivot]

much appreciated, ty!

[bleak pollen]

I put my purple balls In dimensional depot how do I get back

[trim vine]

click and drag, shift click, crtl click

[shy mulch]

You don't wanna know where mine are

[bleak pollen]

Click and drag what? It’s just the upload icon

[dusky spear]

i have build my "main" base and after finishing it i dont like it anymore :<

[fathom shuttle]

Deez nuts

[trim vine]

Press Tab, you should see your dimensional depot on the lefthand side of your inventory

Just click and drag the items in the depot to your inventory, or if they are in the uploader, drag it back to the inventory

[twilit escarp]

i decided to make all logistics underground so....

[bleak pollen]

Swear to god I tried that but thanks

[twilit escarp]

and in that case, in the steel factory i wouldnt need a floor 3 as logistics then

would keep it simple yeah

[tall plover]

Is there any way i can put Priorities on splitters? like fill forward first, then right, then left

Or do i need 2 splitters for that?

[twilit escarp]

smart splitter

[bleak pollen]

Research smart splitters

[tall plover]

i do, but i only see 2 options

[rugged stratus]

what's the fastest way to get rid of hard drive?

[tall plover]

any and overflow

[willow glen]

If you connect more together you can get more priorities

[tall plover]

If i give "Any" to Forward and "Overflow" to right and left it'll fill both sides equally, when i want one side to fill first

thats sad

[hard ivy]

you need a 2nd smart splitter with any and overflow again

[willow glen]

is your output belt on both sides as fast as the input belt? It shouldn’t use overflow unless “any” is full (which could also be due to a slow belt)

[tall plover]

I hoped to only have to use 1

[hard ivy]

why would you want that?

but you can flush it down the toilet I think

[tall plover]

I need all 3 different belts to be able to supply as much as possible if needed

i.e. mk6 conveyors

[rugged stratus]

I have too many, with all the recipes

flushing is slow

[tall plover]

just upload them into deposit

[willow glen]

There’s only 5 extra on the map isn’t there?

[tall plover]

might need em in a future update

[rugged stratus]

you can buy them in the shop

[tall plover]

isnt that for 100 coupons

[rugged stratus]

I never used the awesome sink

[willow glen]

true, but idk why you’d buy them unless you’re done looking for hard drives, thus you wouldn’t have extra… unless I’m missing something

[rugged stratus]

so I got a lot of tickets in the beginning with fused modular frames

[trim vine]

why would you flush anything.....

[tall plover]

to test the toilet obviously

[rugged stratus]

you can get rid of nuclear waste tho

[tall plover]

just use the nuclear waste

[trim vine]

why are you flushing hard drives

[rugged stratus]

they are not that hard btw

[silk ocean]

I don't think I have used a single alternate recipe tbf

[tall plover]

how

[silk ocean]

By the time I get them, far too late xD

[rugged stratus]

U SHOULD

[trim vine]

Not how, the question is why

[rugged stratus]

steeled rotors and steeled frames are life savers

[silk ocean]

lol just never seen the need, got enough of that, why engineer, I mostly gather HDDs for fun

[trim vine]

efficiency is the need 😛

[silk ocean]

True xD

[rugged stratus]

ur crazy

so you are telling me

u are using screws

[fathom shuttle]

Making HMF with the default recipe is crazy

[willow glen]

Research all the alts for completionst sake THEN flush the rest

[trim vine]

screws aint that bad, just dont manifold screws and you're fine

[daring stag]

gentlemen if someone can solve this for me plz #screenshots message

[trim vine]

what phase are you in?

[hard ivy]

the recipes that use them suck tho

[willow glen]

plus later on when you need more things it’s nice to have the alts.

[silk ocean]

I am mildly insane it would seem xD

[trim vine]

some do, not all

[silk ocean]

Almost completed Phase 5, all milestones complete, a little bit to go

[trim vine]

I can help with this

[hard ivy]

all except one - copper rotor

[rugged stratus]

you get a lot of work to do rotors, while with steeled rotors is actually pretty efficient

[willow glen]

wow you got thru phase 5 without any alts? That just sounds painful lol

[fathom shuttle]

I haven’t used a single screw recipe so far in my playthrough except for my starter factory

[daring stag]

that would be great because it makes my brain melt, I wasn't made for trains

[trim vine]

HMF has a great recipe that requires screws

[rugged stratus]

I automated screws

[daring stag]

seems easier to make one station per track

[silk ocean]

It's not like I used much screws, I haven't touched them for like 2 months

[trim vine]

Shoot me a DM if you're able to pop on a call here in about 5 or so

[hard ivy]

no they do not lol

[silk ocean]

Alternate recipes are overrated

[fathom shuttle]

No? The best one is encased frames

[rugged stratus]

alt recepies ARE overpowered

[trim vine]

Heavy Flexible Frame is what I went with

[silk ocean]

I don't think they are, they are as the name implies, alternate

[fathom shuttle]

How many are you making

[trim vine]

Very, very wrong

[hard ivy]

it's not great...

Heavy Encased is way better

[rugged stratus]

bro, you can just turn water to fuels, wdym

[daring stag]

maybe if you have just a screenshot or diagram of such simple setup

[trim vine]

But bolted frames is mad easy

[grizzled lotus]

can someone tell me/show me how to make a blueprint that makes building long railways easier?

[humble osprey]

Are mods much online here?

I wanted to ask them a question

[trim vine]

You able to pop on a call soonish or nah?

[hard ivy]

and mad expenve and still harder than steeled frame

[fathom shuttle]

I’m the owner here

[daring stag]

call, not really sadly

[versed plinth]

on average is rubber or plastic consumed more? or are they consumed similarly?

[prime oriole]

Do manifolds work for full belts? As long as I have <= the resource need upstream, it eventually optimizes and reaches max throughput depending on the belt tier, consumption rate by machines the belts input into not withstanding, right?

[silk ocean]

Recipe to perform a jesus act of water into wine.. I mean fuel xD

[fathom shuttle]

Plastic is consumed way more

[hard ivy]

entirely depends on your recipe choices

[fathom shuttle]

Ohh you’re taking about recipes

[versed plinth]

lets say i make "good" recipe choices

[rugged stratus]

water and heavy oil residue to fuel mb

[versed plinth]

no im asking about in general

[fathom shuttle]

For plastic and rubber it totally dependent on your recipes, most electronics have a plastic and rubber option

[versed plinth]

ah ok. so am i ok if i make a similar amount of both, maybe a little more rubber?

im just tryna figure out what to do with all this residue

[fathom shuttle]

Yea make a 1:1 factory using the recycled recipes

[hard ivy]

I'm using almost exactly the same amount of both on my 1.0 save, which I finished

[silk ocean]

Yea, if that comes my way, I'll look into it. Just another alternate way xD

[fathom shuttle]

You can adjust it later btw, just reroute some belts here and there

[rugged stratus]

that's up to u

[surreal ingot]

Dude sent me an image of where I can find sulfur but there ain’t no sulfur where he told me it is

[fathom shuttle]

Using the resource scanner

Where are you at right now?

[hard ivy]

just look it up on the interactive map

[fathom shuttle]

Oh I forgot I need to transport crystal oscillators and AI limiters to my nuclear power plant

[reef basin]

depends what are those

[versed plinth]

the ones wwith good vibes

[reef basin]

so, a flip of a coin

[versed plinth]

yes

[reef basin]

flip a coin then for plastic vs rubber

[stray loom]

Heat sinks. Anyone know off the top of their head which recipe is more aluminum efficient?

[hard ivy]

the alt

[limpid orchid]

From 1 to 10, how good is the Uploading System for you?

[daring stag]

the depot? 11

[fathom shuttle]

One million

[glacial iris]

hello

[daring stag]

not the same game with and without depots, when you unlock enough it really change the gameplay

[surreal ingot]

I can’t scan for sulfur because I haven’t even found sulfur yet

#screenshots message

purple is me red his where he said it was

[stray loom]

Cheers. I was leaning that way already just because I'd rather make more rubber than have to go get more copper. Good to know its also better on aluminum

[limpid orchid]

Why does the AI hate the Mercer Spheres?

[daring stag]

the AI is bad

she hate you more than the alien btw

[limpid orchid]

Yeah ik that

[surreal ingot]

So far I’ve found Bauxite, Canterium, Coal, a yellow power slug and a blue power slug but no sulfur

[humble osprey]

Is there a way to transfer save files?

[stray loom]

You can find sulfur in the small ore deposits as well as the proper mining nodes. Usually closer to the edges of the starter biomes

[hard ivy]

the save file location is in #faq

[grizzled lotus]

will a nuke nobelisk take care of those BIG spiders?

[limpid orchid]

HOLD ON, there is a Phase 5? I thought its only going to 4?

[fathom shuttle]

It’s all the way to phase 20

[limpid orchid]

Is there more content after Phase 4?

[willow glen]

well, hate to say it, but there’s no sulfur there. Sulfur kinda sucks from this start, the only close by one is pretty far north at -2130, -1700

[trim vine]

Well, first things first.

Do not try and build train stations on the main highway, build a junction and build a proper station off to the side, its size and scale depends on how much stuff you plan on getting from that area

2 lane rails are best, with blocks at each connecting rail, and paths/blocks at junctions

Paths on junction entrance, blocks on exits.

[daring stag]

like this ? #screenshots message

[trim vine]

Just go alil north

[limpid orchid]

Does someone know? More content after phase 4?

[hard ivy]

yes

[rugged stratus]

fun fact: if you flush the toilet for too much ada will get mad at you

[trim vine]

No

[daring stag]

crap

[limpid orchid]

Okay im scared, i will have at the end Thousend of Hours in this game on only 1 World

[grizzled lotus]

how do I change the type of nobelisk I'm using

[daring stag]

I have 1000 hours on deep rock galactic dw

[hard ivy]

hold R

[trim vine]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1370565264780955718

[steady hemlock]

I accidentally created spaghetti, how do I put 3x480 conveyers into 5x270 and an overflow?

[daring stag]

bro these patterns seem advanced as hell

[hard ivy]

I'd do a 3:6 balancer lol

[daring stag]

isn't there a simple version

but basically a train must be able to u-turn at any station no matter which side it comes from, right?

[fathom shuttle]

The nuclear build is smaller than I thought, uranium uses less than 100 machines

Plutonium probably like 40 more

[rugged stratus]

why is ada so mad about me flushing things on the toilet

[daring stag]

she hates humanity, just an edgy teen AI

my bro chatgpt is much nicer

[rugged stratus]

she told me that Im an idiot 😭

[daring stag]

unplug that B

[rugged stratus]

how

[steady hemlock]

I only have 480/Min convayers unlocked,

[hard ivy]

that's not an issue

[steady hemlock]

Im confused on how to do it lol

[trim vine]

They're not, they're baseline

[hard ivy]

in fact, that's exactly the reason to use a balancer

[daring stag]

@stray loom thx finally a diagram I understand, the station points to bottom right?

[hard ivy]

google "satisfactory 3:3 balancer", build 2 of those, and then use 3 splitters to split the 3 incoming belts among the 2 3:3 balancers

[stray loom]

Away from the main line in that diagram

[daring stag]

so arrow to the top inside the station rectangle?

[stray loom]

Yes

[daring stag]

thx Im gonna try

[stray loom]

If you want it the other way then you just swap the block and path signals connecting it to the main line. Path to enter a junction, block to leave

You can also just use all block signals if you want. It just hurts train throughput because it makes the entire junction a single block and only 1 train can be in it then

So you couldn't have trains passing each other on the main line through the junction even though they wouldn't get in each other's way. That's where the path signals come in to play

If you only have a few trains going it wont really matter tho

[fathom shuttle]

Can a nuclear power plant fit in a mk3 bp designer??

[hasty cradle]

I think it can

Maybe height is a problem

[fathom shuttle]

Oh definitely

[hasty cradle]

Why would you want it in a blueprint tho?

[fathom shuttle]

17 meters to spare it seems

[fathom shuttle]

Just so I don’t have to do the belt work for 60 reactors

[leaden ether]

Same reason you would put anything in a BP THere is definitely a need for a Mk4 bp designer.

[stray loom]

So you can have a pipe and belt connected and use blueprint autoconnect to make it faster to stamp them out

[hasty cradle]

How big of a powerplant are you building??

[fathom shuttle]

60 reactors

[stray loom]

Less useful for the pipe if you run it at full speed tho but still saves on the belt work

[hasty cradle]

Overclocked?

[fathom shuttle]

If each one takes 1 minutes to do the belts for then that’s 60 minutes saved

[fathom shuttle]

Yea, so 375gw

[hasty cradle]

Thats alot

[feral venture]

is there a mods channel here?
or can i just ask in this channel?

[dreamy scroll]

The other upside to blueprints is that if it's right once, it's right everytime. Cuts down on silly errors for big builds.

[hasty cradle]

Theres a dedicated mods server

[fathom shuttle]

Yeah it’s important to not have reversed mergers or a machine you forgot to connect

Or set the recipe everytime

[hasty cradle]

Link is in #welcome

[feral venture]

thanks!

[hasty cradle]

Never build something so big that i need dedicated blueprints

[trim vine]

then you ain't really buildin'

[hasty cradle]

Only real blueprints i use are foundations and my hypertube cannon

[real wolf]

#screenshots message a little photo editing gets you this

[trim vine]

-stares in infinite zoop-

[dreamy scroll]

You don't have to use them afterall. I just don't like suffering for no reason.

[hasty cradle]

But i havent build any real big projects

[real wolf]

im on hour 6 of building my oil plant 😭

[dreamy scroll]

Again, you don't have to use them. I use blueprints to place stacker/pipeline stacker pairs.

Not just for giant builds.

[hasty cradle]

Im gonna build a dedicated factory for fuel gens

Maybe need blueprints for that

[trim vine]

wait til you gotta drop 52 refiners to make pure caterium ingots 😛

[hasty cradle]

Gonna do like 10 fuel gens p/min

[leaden ether]

Comes in even more handy when you start creating architecture. Like a single roof support pillar might need 15 objects all carefully placed and you need to place 20 per floor of a 10 story factory :D

[hasty cradle]

Maybe should make a blueprint for that

[hard ivy]

52? Try 300 for pure copper

[trim vine]

300 is light work, let me show you my radio control/cooling system (150 ea) and copper powder factory, all lumped into one massive structure xd

[lean ferry]

which one do I make more of sheets or casing?

I have 240 aluminium ingots/min at my disposal and idk how to split them

[trim vine]

sheets for belts

[lean ferry]

how should I split my 240 ingots

[trim vine]

figure out what you need for each and make it happen

[lean ferry]

no like

should I give more ingots to casings, or sheets or stuff

oh wait you asnwered that im slow mb

[trim vine]

Again, you need sheets for belts

[dreamy scroll]

I love this for you

[lean ferry]

im just gonna 50/50 split at this point ill still make 120 sheets a min which is amazing

[real wolf]

i take so much concrete with me and yet i dont seem to have enough

[hard ivy]

just depot like 1000/min and you'll always have enough

[real wolf]

my depot speed is 15/min and i dont have any sam thingy automated

im at phase 3

[hard ivy]

then you can have it

the most advanced thing it requires is a manufacturer

and only if you automate it

handcrafting is available past steel

[real wolf]

ik.

im only 28h in

[daring stag]

game starts at 70h

is tutorial before that

[humble osprey]

More sheets. You're gonna need like 6 casing per minute for the entire run

[real wolf]

my 28h save is already 1/7 of my 200 hour world

[lean ferry]

I made 120 sheets/min and 80 casings/min

[real wolf]

6 casing per sec

[last tartan]

Just got tier 3 logistics, so nice having a use for all this steel 🤩

[real wolf]

the mk.3 belt or mk.4?

[last tartan]

Mk.3 logistics

[real wolf]

that gives?

[last tartan]

Gives what?

[real wolf]

what does mk.3 logistic give

[hard ivy]

gee, what could it give???

[last tartan]

Oh, mk.3 conveyors, industrial storage container and something else I forgot about

[vestal mica]

if you had to guess if mk3 logistics gave mk3 belts or mk4 what does your gut tell you?

[real wolf]

yeah the mk.2 is so not worth it when you get mk.3

[last tartan]

For sure, I need these plates

[real wolf]

how should i transport materials from my starter area to a storage room?
✈️ = drone
= train

[lean ferry]

I died from taking fall damage in water

[real wolf]

LOL

[lean ferry]

how does this game even work

I loaded an old save

couldnt be asked to go all the way

[daring stag]

I have a derailed train deep in the water, sounds bad

[fathom shuttle]

You don’t need a storage area

[real wolf]

oki oil plant 80% just gotta do the ends of it

[vestal mica]

that wasn't the question

[real wolf]

yes you do!

[fathom shuttle]

Wrong

[ashen spruce]

Next person to write gets a lizzard doggo!

[real wolf]

how am i wrong?

[ashen spruce]

[fathom shuttle]

Because I’m right, duh

But seriously do you not know what the dimensional depot is?

[dreamy scroll]

Chat try to understand that different people play the game differently and it doesn't make either wrong.

[ashen spruce]

That's right.

[real wolf]

i want a storage room for when im building massive platforms

[ashen spruce]

So are you my brother?

[real wolf]

or mega builds so i dont have to wait for the depot and the factory to start working

[fathom shuttle]

You know you can put more than 1 dimensional uploaded for a single item right

[last tartan]

I’m learning pro organization 😎

[real wolf]

50 plastic p/m and 75 rubber p/m good for phase 3?

[white dawn]

Make whatever you need right now, then build more later when you need more. :)

[real wolf]

you know there are only 300 spheres total i think

[fathom shuttle]

I’d skew it toward plastic cause it’s used for mk2 pipes but it’s fine

[white dawn]

How much you need of rubber/plastic specifically depends quite heavily on recipe choices

[last tartan]

Are power towers worth the hassle

[real wolf]

well i can always double my production just by overlocking

[hard ivy]

absolutely

[white dawn]

I'm curious what hassle there is, apart from them being bigger. Yeah, they're worth it, and they pair quite nicely with the zipline

[fathom shuttle]

You can throw down 200 uploaders so it’s not really relevant

[real wolf]

you do you ig

[leaden turret]

power pole: doot doot doot doot doot doot
power tower: doot 🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲 doot

[white dawn]

I still stand by my advice. Planning for the future productionwise is a losing game.

[last tartan]

Do they make it so I don’t have to jump around the poles? 🤣

[white dawn]

Yes

[real wolf]

real

[last tartan]

Sweet!!

I need modular frames then

[fathom shuttle]

300m vs 100m

[white dawn]

Also their connection distance is a lot longer than regular poles

[real wolf]

it feels so nice almost being done with my powerplant, inner peace

[fathom shuttle]

Guess which one you want to transmit power?

[white dawn]

I admit I enjoy ziplining along regular power poles; turns it into an active game of "how long can I go before screwing up"

But power towers + zipline is an A+ pioneer transit method up through midgame at least

[last tartan]

It’s fun, I like jumping around them

[leaden turret]

how long can I go before screwing up
isn't that just how playing satisfactory goes in general?

[subtle swan]

Hi guys i have an issue i want to use a item elevator however i want it to go from the top down. however im unablew to move the botom bit. How do i do that?

[last tartan]

You can start from the top and pull it down, worked for me

[hard ivy]

or you can start from the bottom in reverse mode

[last tartan]

Is that what that does? It didn’t ever work for me..

[subtle swan]

i cant twist the bottom bit\

[hard ivy]

rotate with mouse wheel

[subtle swan]

ahh yea i see now you must start with how you want the bottom part to exit and then twist to top part to match

[last tartan]

Is there a melee weapon that supersedes the xeno-basher

[tawdry plank]

No

[real wolf]

remember when nudge limit was a thing

[tawdry plank]

You don't really use melee past like phase 2

[last tartan]

Dude don’t scare me like that

[tawdry plank]

In phase 3 at least I just used cluster bombs

[hard ivy]

unless you're me and only use melee

[real wolf]

Ryzen 5090 TI

[real wolf]

hehe

[last tartan]

It’s ryzen 4070

[rustic hare]

yeah, and I spam explosive rebar

[real wolf]

they came out with a new version

[tawdry plank]

What have I just joined

Alrighty time to disappear again 🫥

[rustic hare]

bye

[last tartan]

Sure buddy, I bet you don’t even know about the gtx 7600rtx

[real wolf]

dont become my father

[tawdry plank]

I'm not getting milk

[swift pebble]

I'm trying to make a compact Assembler blueprint that can help me set up assembler manifolds faster, using the belt autoconnect feature. The problem is I'm not able to put the blueprints as close together when using autoconnect as I am when I just put them next to each other and connect them manually. Is there a way around this?
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1396920909042028554

[real wolf]

stack em

[last tartan]

Tho I’m surprised to say my graphics card handles this game well in 1080p

[real wolf]

what gpu ya got

[hard ivy]

make the long belts shorter

[swift pebble]

stack what

[last tartan]

5700xt..

[real wolf]

the assemblers

[rustic hare]

it told you, conveyor too short, maybe make the conveyor in the blueprint a lil shorter so the connected one can be longer

[real wolf]

i mean my 3060ti runs this game very well 1440p high - ultra settings

[last tartan]

no upscaling?

[real wolf]

I barely hit 60fps with ultra + global illumation on

[real wolf]

balanced

[rustic hare]

running taj's graphical overhaul, 75% dlss upscale, FHD ultra @110 fps on a rtx4060

[last tartan]

Oh dang mines the same

[real wolf]

yeah your gpu is better then mine 😭

[last tartan]

Nah, we’re on different resolutions

[real wolf]

i am using alot of my ram cause it just emptyed my vram

ate it like a fat man at macdonald

[last tartan]

Vram very much importante nowadays

My next graphics card will have 16 gigglebytes

[atomic siren]

Can someone help and tell me how my train should be set up?

For now I just want one locomotive that travels to 3 stations. It will load stuff from the Plastic station (blue hue in the pic), go to the main base station (green grassy station in the pics), and go to and offload at the desert station (red/orangeish tint). Currently i dont even know whats happening, occasionally it goes to a station, but most of the time it just weirdly skips right by. What should I change
#screenshots message

[last tartan]

ESPECIALLY for this beast of a game

[atomic siren]

i already got 16gb vram

[tawdry plank]

This game is way more CPU bound not GPU bound tho

[last tartan]

card

[tawdry plank]

You can run it pretty high frame rate even with 8gb VRAM cards

[atomic siren]

rx 6800

[real wolf]

already im hitting 50 fps when recording 1440p

[last tartan]

I’d say it’s more GPU based honestly

[tawdry plank]

This game is known for being a CPU hog and loving a ton of vcache like on x3D CPUs

[last tartan]

There’s a whole lotta stuff to render with such high quality physics n what not, I think it’s less reliant on vram but still uses a lot of graphics processing power

[tawdry plank]

The GPU matters much less

Most processing is computational not graphics

[leaden turret]

if game is gpu based, how does dedicated server work [trollface]

[real wolf]

alr back to high before my gpu overheats

[twilit escarp]

In the rocky desert where can i find 17 computers for the manual depot uploader?

[last tartan]

I uh

[tawdry plank]

What matters most is CPU cores and cache

[last tartan]

would beg to differ

[twilit escarp]

already have 9

[tawdry plank]

Above all

[last tartan]

my gpu (5700xt) is at 97% utilization in comparison to my r5 5500 being 60% usage

[real wolf]

#screenshots message im loving how my factory looks

[last tartan]

That is IMPRESSIVE dude..

[tawdry plank]

Yeah but you play on higher settings than your GPU would handle already. But the biggest limiter in most cases is cache

[real wolf]

might put a light at the end but idk

[tawdry plank]

That will be your limiter esp lategame

[last tartan]

Yes, this chip doesn’t even have a cache

[leaden turret]

cash is biggest limiter in increasing gpu

[last tartan]

It’s why I’m upgrading eventually

[real wolf]

Ty! 🫶

[tawdry plank]

Steal a gpu

Easy

[last tartan]

Hear me out

The 100 dollar 3080ti on Aliexpress

[tawdry plank]

Dont

[real wolf]

get out

also #off-topic-tech :>

before mods get angy

[last tartan]

🤫

Are steel pipe modular frame alternates goated

[real wolf]

i like my factories dark tbh

[last tartan]

I altered my swatch to have a darker more saturated orange

[stray loom]

Depends. If you use the combo of iron wire, iron pipe, stitched iron plate, and steeled frame you can made modular frames using only iron which can be nice if you want coal for other things or just don't have any nearby

[haughty flax]

so should i basically just be doing pure copper, pure iron, pure quartz crystal, its just water and better conversion rate

[stray loom]

Also a purely enormous power bill from all the refineries

[green fiber]

this is the mindset of people who end up suffering from refinery ptsd

[haughty flax]

hm seems like a small tradeoff

[leaden turret]

back in my day we built water packing plants with refineries uphill both ways

[stray loom]

Endless refinery spam is just boring tho. Every line ends up looking the same

[tawdry plank]

this makes me think of when refineries didn't need pipes

[green fiber]

terrible times. refinery looked like ass

the only good thing about that was that pure recipes didnt exit

[real wolf]

now they look amazing if done right

[tawdry plank]

do you guys theme the colours of the machines different for each factory or keep one solid theme throughout

[green fiber]

mix and match depending on vibe

[tawdry plank]

thinking of making the aluminum farm different than blue cause it clashes a lot with the red bamboo forest

[stray loom]

I run the mod that gives me more color swatches so I can go hog wild

[green fiber]

i just like coloring stuff according to the fluid it handles a lot
so my aluminum plants tend to have a low of white or gray

dashes of yellow tend to go great with white/gray

[tawdry plank]

i only change my pipes

[green fiber]

i color everything

[tawdry plank]

for recycled water pipes to be diff than normal colour pipes

that's it tbh

[green fiber]

well then branch out

color more stuff

[tawdry plank]

theming and designing bases aint my strongsuit

[green fiber]

consider some of the copper finish maybe?

its a decent red-orange so it doesnt clash much

[tawdry plank]

copper coloured copper powder factory when

[green fiber]

you can make one today

[tawdry plank]

oh not even a chance 💀

i am much behind that

[green fiber]

skill issue, get past aluminum

[tawdry plank]

i need to solve my power issues first

rocket fuel plant soon trust

[green fiber]

Soon™

[tawdry plank]

soon as in when i get my ass off and stop procrastinating

but tonight is movie night

sadly the factory will have to wait

[ashen spruce]

Why is ADA mean to us anyway?

[tawdry plank]

dont expect an expansionist perfectionist AI to be nice to human flaw

[stray loom]

Because you're complaining and complaning means you aren't being efficient. Your scheduled complaint time is over now. Back to work!

[ashen spruce]

So ADA is ChatGPT in the future.

Interesting!

[tawdry plank]

nah chatgpt tries to people please too much and hallucinates

and also is flawed while ada tries to perfect herself

and succeeds doing that pretty much

[ashen spruce]

ADA is getting AI limited in a mo'.

[past steeple]

hence, in the future

[ashen spruce]

Zis!

[tawdry plank]

give her more ai expansions what can go wrong

[ashen spruce]

Yet, ADA is incapable of Saving The Day.

[tawdry plank]

LLMs are getting so poisoned and devolving that there is no way in the current world for them to actually improve to that point

[tawdry plank]

well it's because [REDACTED SPOILER]

there is a reason

[ashen spruce]

My "Save The Pioneer" Arsenal is sent to your house! Address: Massage 2-AB (Akicha System) HUB!

[past steeple]

"In the current world" Well, yes, that is why we speak of the future. The internet has only been around for ~50-60 years

In the grand scheme of things, that is a blip in the timeline of history

[ashen spruce]

Double and give to the next haha

[tawdry plank]

in the future she wouldnt be a chatgpt. she would not be an LLM

[real wolf]

factroy almost done :3

[tawdry plank]

yippee

[past steeple]

Chatgpt is like a screwdriver, and ADA is like a drill. You have to have one to get to the other

Its a start

[tawdry plank]

nah chatgpt is a screwdriver, ADA is a CAD machine. the difference in how it works and its depth is worlds apart

and not the same functionality or the same starting poitn

[leaden turret]

chatgpt is like a chocolate sculpture of the notre dame.

impressive achievement but fundamentally useless 😛

[tawdry plank]

yeah chatgpt is fundamentally just a money sink

the billions spent on LLMs will not lead to an actual AI revolution

just to a worse off internet and every product being poisoned by its presence cause the companies need to make their investments back

it's infuriating how even in game design our lecturers have to discuss these AI products cause so many AAA companies are trying to replace so many game design devs with halfworking or not working AI tools and LLM plugins

[past steeple]

There is a key word there, trying

[tawdry plank]

ok this is completely unrelated to satisfactory now but it's clear i have no sympathy for these products or this trend

or see a viable future for them

it's a bubble and it will burst

there's a reason me and so many of the classmates that are gonna be future devs are applying to AA studios or indie studios as the future of AAA is not bright

devs getting mass laid off, instability and an utterly soulless environment to make games in

[minor rock]

what do you think nvidia market cap is in 20 years ? xD

it's 4.2T now

[tawdry plank]

i cant wait for the AI bubble to burst

i give it a couple years

[stray loom]

Probably 5x that

[minor rock]

idk ... llms dont need to lead to an actual AI revolution

[tawdry plank]

it's still very much a bubble

[minor rock]

think of all the ideological manipulation and advertisement potential there is

[tawdry plank]

with every company putting AI in their name or plans to "keep up"

it's just marketting

[past steeple]

I was told 6 years ago that IT and coding jobs would be gone in 6 months. At the birth of the internet, people said the Internet is just a "fad" that would last a couple years. Who knows how long this will last. Either way, we are completely off topic

[leaden turret]

a shart 😛

[tawdry plank]

it's another .com event but for today's dumb investors

[minor rock]

well since we have platforms now, the internet is going to move into a new era of AI and BS and people will just suck it up

[tawdry plank]

HA sure coders will fade...

[minor rock]

everything is centralized

[tawdry plank]

then when the AIs fuck up who'll help the execs lol

[tawdry plank]

so real

[tawdry plank]

there's a hunger for human made content tho. and it's growing and growing. there's a reason people are getting more and more sick of these controlled centralized platforms

[past steeple]

yall, there is an #off-topic-tech channel

[stray loom]

No doubt by someone with an MBA who generates no real value for the world 😄

[atomic siren]

Can someone help and tell me how my train should be set up?

For now I just want one locomotive that travels to 3 stations. It will load stuff from the Plastic station (blue hue in the pic), go to the main base station (green grassy station in the pics), and go to and offload at the desert station (red/orangeish tint). Currently i dont even know whats happening, occasionally it goes to a station, but most of the time it just weirdly skips right by. What should I change
#screenshots message

[tawdry plank]

anyway i put my stance on the thing in conclusion you guys better be growing your factory as ADA does not allow breaks

[trim vine]

I can help, but not sure if you will like it 😛

[minor rock]

lots of people are quite complacent with letting algorithms outsourcing what they will be exposed to. you dont have to think. just open the platform and off you go, thats what the internet is now. think of all the things we could outsource with ai, like thought

[lean ferry]

should I automate gas filters/iodine filters?

I do have spare resin and my oil plant near coal as well as iron and water

I can easily make it but idk if its worth it

[trim vine]

worth

[white dawn]

IMO if you're planning on using something, it's worth automating

You can automate both at quite low rates and have them be useful

[stray loom]

You don't really need gas filters if you have something like explosive rebar or nobelisks to blow up the gas pillars. Iodine filters on the other hand are nice to have automated because radiation isn't something you can just disappear so easily

[humble osprey]

"Trucks and tracktors shouldn't require fuel"

Thoughts?

[lean ferry]

I cant automate the gas filter very well tho

[white dawn]

I forget what the max gas filter usage is, but iodine filters max out at 5/min. Automate that much and you'll never take rad damage again (so long as you periodically pull some from your Depot)

[tawdry plank]

you can already do that

just disable fuel consumption

[white dawn]

In practice you could get away with a far slower rate of production, since you're unlikely to spend all your time in max radiation

[lean ferry]

im gonna have to ship the gas filter all the way back to my main base, bring caterium and casing all the way aswell

i really dont know

I could do it but it would be annoying

[white dawn]

No need to bring 'em back; just throw 'em into a Depot

[trim vine]

no

[trim vine]

depot

[lean ferry]

bro if im automating them I need to get them all to 1 manufacturer

theres no caterium and bauxite near the oil plant I have

[white dawn]

(I mean, you can bring them back if you want to, of course. I am among the people who still continue to make Central Storage. But they're a good use for a sphere, for sure)

[tawdry plank]

you dont need a constant supply just depot them

[humble osprey]

Oh. My question was, do you think that would be better game design. Would that make them more viable and balanced?

[tawdry plank]

and then handfeed a manufacturer

[lean ferry]

ohh

[tawdry plank]

eh no fuel management is an important part of the game

if you dont want it just disable it

[lean ferry]

instead of handfeeding manufacturer isnt it better if I just equipment workshop

[tawdry plank]

you wanna hold down and handcraft them tho?

[lean ferry]

btw I dont have enough mercer spheres to depot all of them

[tawdry plank]

that seems like a needless hastle

[white dawn]

I think you're overstating the fuel requirements for vehicles. Fuelling vehicles (and drones) is really not a big deal

[lean ferry]

I mean im not gonna need many

[tawdry plank]

while dropping a manufacturer can be instant

[humble osprey]

I mean, trains dont need fuel which makes them infinitely better than cars. The cars become extremely niche after trains and drones are unlocked. Every other transport had uts usecase

[lean ferry]

wait what is the rate for iodine filters?

[tawdry plank]

and just put it down, let it craft

[trim vine]

You just need alil coal and some iron plate for the gas filters

[white dawn]

But not requiring fuel for vehicles/drones is exactly why they added the AGS option to allow you to do that.

[tawdry plank]

and run away

[stray loom]

How would you represent the cost of moving around the map for those then, make them electric and charge at truck stops? Trains already have an opportunity cost to use which is the power you have to generate to run them

[white dawn]

I still build new vehicle routes into the endgame, where appropriate

[lean ferry]

gas filters in 1 area, casing in another caterium in another

[white dawn]

Trains + Drones don't completely remove vehicles' niche

[lean ferry]

hold on ion know about the casing im going to check

I did already automate cluster im gonna see if theres caterium near oil plant

[trim vine]

Let the gas filters fill up, then just bring an ISC worth to the caterium/aluminum spot

You dont need more than a couple hundred at best in a playthrough

[tawdry plank]

yeah you can handfeed a manufacturer and craft a stack when needed

rather than hand craft or bring the materials over to one place

just grab every ingredient from depot and craft 100 iodine filters and be done with it

[lean ferry]

what is the iodine filter rate

[tawdry plank]

what do you mean

[lean ferry]

like how long does it take for it to run out

[tawdry plank]

like rate to craft? their duration

[trim vine]

Normally, for 99% of things, I do not like hand feeding and prefer to automate, for filters though, craft literally just like 500 of each and you'll never run out

[tawdry plank]

like 3x longer than a normal filter

just put a manufacturer to make a stack or 2 of filters and forget about it

[lean ferry]

o I thought they were faster to run out than gas filter

i got them wrong way around

[tawdry plank]

instead of automating it or handcrafting

[lean ferry]

ykw its too much of a hassle im just gonna hand craft it

[tawdry plank]

just make a couple stacks and dont worry

[tawdry plank]

bro just place down a manufacturer

[lean ferry]

mycelia biome next to me, caterium and casing being shipped to my base

[tawdry plank]

and let it craft while you're doing something else

[lean ferry]

no like hand get ingredient throw it in manufacturer and do other stuff

[pure condor]

How do I get coffee

[tawdry plank]

it takes so long to craft them by hand

[white dawn]

Though you might want to have them fully automated anyway for Iodine filter use

[lean ferry]

yeah that

[humble osprey]

I personally think that the disadvantages outweigh the advantages for cars

TRAINS-
heavy duty, requires lots of space and planning, delivers large quantity of products, scalable, uses only electricity

DRONES-
require little to no planning, fast, best used for small scale products,

BELTS-
staple of the game. Best for extremely small scale transport

CARS-...
???

[tawdry plank]

awesome shop

[white dawn]

Gas filters you don't go through much at all, I agree, but Iodine filters are nice to have constantly replenished

[lean ferry]

hear me out what if I just sloop the manufacturer aswell

[trim vine]

Exactly, he can automate gas filters, and just hand feed the gas filter into iodine easily

[lean ferry]

infinite filters

[atomic siren]

At this point I don’t care if I like it or not

[humble osprey]

Can you please give a few examples of where cars are actually useful and viable in late game

[trim vine]

DM me for a call

[white dawn]

It's Iodine filters in particular that I'd recommend fully automating

[lean ferry]

I can easily automate gas filters

im gonna get a bunch of fabric a bunch of coal and a bunch of plates and sloop manufacturer

[white dawn]

For me, any transfer <=500m or so, possibly up to maybe 750. I don't actually measure it out

[lean ferry]

that way its gonna double gas filter, same thing for iodine

then im gonna have like 300 just sitting and i wont need to refill for like 20 hours/30 hours of playtime

anyways afk rq and thanks for helping @tawdry plank @trim vine

[past steeple]

Not sure if this counts, but exploring late game areas like the Red Forest or Swamp. Mobs don't attack you in the truck, so you can easily run em over (except hogs) and profit

[humble osprey]

For what type of items, what fuel do you use

[high kiln]

hello people, is there anys erver provider like aternos which hosts servers for free?

[past steeple]

#dedicated-servers 🙂

[high kiln]

no i want to make one just for me and myf riends

[tawdry plank]

remember to make sure the factory keeps growing

[humble osprey]

Okay this is true. I have to agree that cars are the best personal transport for exploration

[high kiln]

oh mb

[tawdry plank]

i never use the cars to explore tbh

[high kiln]

that channel is for those. mb

[tawdry plank]

i just jump arount the enemies and bomb them

[dreamy scroll]

"At this point I don’t care if I like it or not" Me, 6 hours into a 2 hour project

[white dawn]

I mean, anything that needs transferring? I used vehicles to deliver bauxite and coal to a late-game aluminum factory of mine on my 1.0 save, for instance.

Fuel choice would depend heavily on circumstance. In that particular case I didn't need 100% of the coal node for the aluminum, so I just used coal for the thing and fed it from the same node

In general I tend to default to just packaged fuel for tractors, though

[stray loom]

My 1.0 save I used tractors to drive up into the forest and gather coal to run my coal power plant that was built on the lake just NW of the grassy plains. I didn't have the steel to belt it all in on mk3 belts and I never bothered to upgrade it later because it just worked fine

[white dawn]

Packaged Fuel goes a long way, and fuel distribution isn't a difficult problem

[humble osprey]

Wait this is actually smart

[white dawn]

My shortest tractor route on my 1.0 save was something silly like 200m

I really don't like having belts mucking up the place. :)

[dreamy scroll]

The best reason to use vehicles is to have a bunch of silly little individuals bombing around the place to put your life in danger.

[white dawn]

I do readily admit that once I have trains (and then drones), the majority of my new logistics tends to be trains + drones

But there's plenty of edge cases where it just doesn't make sense to use either, and in which a tractor will slot quite nicely

[ruby mountain]

QQ: how do you link blueprints together? or is that still not a thing

[atomic siren]

then my whole design sucks and it's horribly inefficient so I redesign the whole thing

[white dawn]

And of course for logistics prior to unlocking trains, Tractors are your one option. I tend to use 'em quite heavily in the early game

[trim vine]

press R

[ruby mountain]

thanks

[dreamy scroll]

The important third step is to post it on here so somebody can say "The most complex system in the game? I didn't find it difficult"

[stray loom]

I think the biggest benefit to a truck of tractor is using the natural paths on the map and only needing minimal infrastructure building to move stuff from point A to point B. If I just need to move stuff a few hundred meters and I don't have to really build anything but a truck stop at each end because I have a nice easy path to follow? Road vehicle it is

[atomic siren]

and clown on your whole design of course

yeah im never using trains again

[trim vine]

Again, happy to help, as trains are amazing, but would pref to do it over a call where we can stream

[naive palm]

Every method of conveyance in Satisfactory has a niche. Except the truck (Mind truck, not our beloved little tractor)