satisfactory

[pastel harness]

hm

[true mulch]

iron alloy is much better in this aspect, 8+2 ores make 15 ingots

copper alloy is 5+5 ores for 10 ingots

[pastel harness]

Copper is the rarer resource though so

by like 3x

[true mulch]

that's true, but global availability isn't really a problem until you're hitting the total limits

[pastel harness]

Yeah I suppose

[true mulch]

looking at the map, the two resources are almost always close to each other

[pastel harness]

I'm building a pretty large factory and I'm only using like 20% SAM and 20% Oil

[true mulch]

apparently SAM is a huge limiting factor in T9

[pastel harness]

Yeah

I'm collecting from 4 SAM deposits and they're not close together lol

[true mulch]

sounds like drones would be optimal

low throughput long distance

[pastel harness]

Yeah they would be if I didn'

If I didn't have to run trains there anyway

Plus I wouldn't exactly consider 1200/min 'low throughput'. Although I could have condensed to reanimated locally ig

[true mulch]

either that or 2 drones

depends on distance but I think 1200 is doable

[pastel harness]

Yeah true
Skyrail trains just seemed easier for my amounts tbh and only use power, I haven't really messed with drones that much tbh

If batteries were rechargable then that would be a cool challenge to use drones for but I just can't get past the whole consumable fuel thing when trains are right there

Says after building a huge fuel plant to power the trains lol

[distant pelican]

#1396426533551476888 message Can someone help me with this?

[dreamy scroll]

This is one of the first real blueprints I bothered with, looking at the numbers for copper powder I wanted one I could just spam out. Autoconnect made it even better.

[lean ferry]

guys is there a way to quickly kick out someone in multiplyer

[ashen spruce]

ngl, it should be a basic feature, that when supports for belts/pipes are needed, they should just be placed

It's really annoying that I have to stop every 5 seconds 🥀

[pastel harness]

The game wouldn't know whether to place the supports evenly or at max, it would have to be an extra toggle

[dreamy scroll]

Me looking away from my pipeline laying to weep about the same thing

[pastel harness]

Still seems like something you could mod in though

[lean ferry]

guys I got a slight problem..

near the bottom right of the map theres a somersloop surrounded by uranium

me and my freind tried to snipe it with a hypertube cannon and now it just doesnt exist

none of us picked it up and its not there anymore

[shy mulch]

Load your save into SCIM and see if that gives you some clues

[vast salmon]

Dude that really sucks, i really hope you guys can get it

[lean ferry]

ok thanks

if its still glitched im just gonna use cheats/mods to give it to me

[vast salmon]

i think thats a reasonable reason

[ashen spruce]

just place it at the max

make it a build mode

and if you don't want that, just use Default, Straight or Curved. 🤷

[lean ferry]

how do I kick my freind from my world cuz I let him in to see my world but now hes just sitting there

I want to get rid of him cuz hes not gonna join again it was just to see my world

[dense violet]

You can really easily build rail close to the ground. Just plan it out with a foundation line

[dense violet]

Kill him

[lean ferry]

I did his dead body just lies there

[dense violet]

It’ll probably go away

[real wolf]

why do i over decorate something, 5 hours on a oil plant that could have taken me 10 minute to build

[barren leaf]

yall im a smooth brain, if I want screws do i just build 2 constructors next to each other in the same line that has my iron smelter?

[lean ferry]

OMG OMG

HEAVY ENCASED FRAME AFTER 40 MINS OF DRIVE HUNTING

FINNNAAALLLYYYYY

[round shell]

You'll build up a mental backlog of but I'm planning to redo this for everything you build though

[lean ferry]

wait is encased or flexible better for hmf

[round shell]

Ask me how I know

[real wolf]

i just have the mindset of "i have to get this perfect"

[lean ferry]

what hmf alternate is better flexible or encased?

[hard ivy]

encased

[lean ferry]

we were talking about this yesterday lol

I got 15 harddrives im scanning them, rn im mercer sphere hunting

[real wolf]

#screenshots message i like how i built this tower :>

[round shell]

I too parked my game at the point of dithering around with oil production. I'm sure the way to progress through the game at optimal rate is to max production out of every group of nodes you develop and then move on, but it never turns out that way

[cedar portal]

@shy mulch Finally got my 20 warp drives/min going smoothly. Used more loops than I wanted to but it was easier than using a bunch of VIP junctions and messy stuff.

[shy mulch]

Woop! Good job 😎

[uncut trail]

im genuinely tweaking out tryna automate versatile framework

[hasty cradle]

Gl when you get to later phases then

Framework is pretty easy

[hasty cradle]

How much p/min are you trying to automate?

[uncut trail]

idk im just tryna build it ill figure those after

i have all steel stuff automated besides one with concrete

[hasty cradle]

Industrial beams you mean?

[uncut trail]

im tryna automate standart framework next to steel ones to automate versatile

[uncut trail]

yea

[hasty cradle]

Its better to plan how much you want to automate rather than Just letting it happen

You can do all the math in satisfactory modeler on steam and know how much you will need

Saves you alot of headaches and rebuilding

[uncut trail]

wdym how much? like per minute?

[hasty cradle]

Yeah per minute

[uncut trail]

how can I control them besides overclocking

[hasty cradle]

Making more machines

And underclocking is a thing

[late tartan]

So i dont have any green or blue filaments for the nuclear fuel rod i am printing from satisfactory. Do you think purple will suffice for now until i get some?

[hard ivy]

Ficsonium is mostly gray and yellow

[daring stag]

phase 3 done after 72h 🙏

let me guess phase 4 is harder right?

[hasty cradle]

Its the hardest phase

In my opinion

[daring stag]

but now I have a better idea on how to build stuff though

[hasty cradle]

Thats true

And you get acces to alot of new power sources

Like rocket fuel and nuclear reactors

[daring stag]

in the best biomes

I think I'll just make a third base for phase 4

powered by blue crater

[late tartan]

I have gray and yellow for the structure of the fuel rod but not a blue or green for the fuel part.

[daring stag]

hazmat suit thank god

[hard ivy]

ficsonium doesn't have any blue or green on the outside

[cedar portal]

I can probably bump that up a lot. I had 10 thermal rockeets/min running before they added sommerloops, so nothing is looped except the new stuff. Dark matter, the warp drives and the new oscelators. Just looping the thermal rocketss would reduce resource usage down the line a ton.

[late tartan]

Did they remodel the fuel rod from last i remember?

[daring stag]

does hazmat suit with filter replace the gas mask? or you need both protections

[hard ivy]

Uranium has green light, Plutonium has light blue, Ficsonium has yellow

[late tartan]

Im making the uranium fuel rod.

[willow dawn]

Wooohoo just automated radio control units.... guess I am ready for drones 🙂

[late tartan]

I wasn’t aware there was a ficsonium rod. Thought you were pulling my leg

[uncut trail]

holy shit made first versatile framwork automated

[cedar portal]

Drones are such a fun way to move things around

[late tartan]

Its been awhile since i played

[boreal musk]

no, hazmat suit is part of body while gask mask is head, they dont replace any

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch Nuclear+Power+Plant

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Nuclear+Power+Plant

[willow dawn]

Awesome!

I heard something about drones being great for long distances, low amount of items

[hard ivy]

that's correct

[daring stag]

you mean quest items

[willow dawn]

Cool guess that means I will finally venture outside the rocky desert 😛

[late tartan]

Im in the midst of printing the uranium rod. I wanna print the plutonium and ficsonium rod

[daring stag]

do you ever use the jetpack once you have the hoverpack?

[lean ferry]

which is better guys explosive rebar or rifle

like what is better fr doing damage

[daring stag]

rifle with homing ammo is my go to because it handles stinger the easiest

[dreamy scroll]

I use the jetpack all the time because I like jumping about

[cedar portal]

They are great for everything really. Maybe not bringing raw iron ore to a smelter across the map, but one of the great things about them is if 1 drone station can't quite keep up, it's trivial to just slap a second, or third down if you need to.

[dense violet]

well, it's alright for higher volumes too, you just need more drones. And medium distances and are fine. Short as well if the terrain is terrible

[willow dawn]

What do they need for fuel?

I assume this is something I should automate too or do they dun on batteries?

[shy mulch]

Any packaged fuel

Higher tier fuel will burn more efficiently and go faster

[dense violet]

nuclear rods as well

and batteries

[shy mulch]

Oh yeah forgot about those

Mine all run on rocket fuel I think it's perfect

[lean ferry]

ill do rifle with normal ammo rn and use cluster

[willow dawn]

I suppose I should start by getting packaged fuel then... perhaps my first outing in the other regions with be oil considering I exhausted my oil in the golden isles

[lean ferry]

idk if I should use explosive rebar

[cedar portal]

@willow dawn My end game platform supplied by some trains under it, and a lot of drones
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/553550313533997057/1396464710286835833/image.png?ex=687e2e9b&is=687cdd1b&hm=1dc4a82d27b0025e35012842780cdaa564c394b3500f1b7624b9634fc3068c6d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1458&height=820

[shy mulch]

Go nuts, try stuff, see what resonates with you style

[willow dawn]

Do you need the fuel to be at both of the "line"

[cedar portal]

No, just one side needs fuel

[lean ferry]

so what ammo should I use guys cuz the big hog and spitters and stuff are just pissing me off

[willow dawn]

Thanks, good to know

[fluid sapphire]

Why wouldn't you use it, hoverpack needs power connections pretty close by and you don't always have that

[daring stag]

yeah unless you build power lines when exploring but that sounds boring

[fluid sapphire]

I don't want random power towers cluttering my map whew

[cedar portal]

@willow dawn I think one of the key things to keep in mind with drone stations is that a drone can only fetch from one station. But, MANY drones can grab from the same station. So if you make a single drone station and do NOT put a drone on it, you can have 10 other stations around the map with drones fetching from it. Which is perfect for fueling the drone stations. An outpost can have one drone port to get fuel and feed it to as many others at that site.

[shy mulch]

Personally I use nuke nobelisks on those, extra kaboom = extra fun

[lean ferry]

im only tier 6 😦

[fluid sapphire]

Gameplay settings: enemy aggression - retaliate

No more pesky annoying mobs

[lean ferry]

that feels liek cheating

I wana kill them all but idk what is more efficient

gng should I automate cluster nobelisk

[fluid sapphire]

They are just a stop gap past a certain point, it's not like fighting them is challenging, just tedious

Like bro I'm working here, leave me alone

[lean ferry]

fairs

but shoudl I automate cluster bombs

[fluid sapphire]

For sure, explosives are still useful even outside combat

[daring stag]

homing ammo for stingers, 20 bullets (one magazine) kills an alpha

[lean ferry]

dont have high speed connectors automated

[daring stag]

for radioactive hog though it's like 5 magazines

automating turbo packaged fuel and homing ammo into alien depot was my best upgrade in tier6

unlimited killing and flying

[lean ferry]

btw whats the best heal

[tawdry plank]

best thing i made

[tawdry plank]

all inhalers fullheal

[lean ferry]

rn im just grindiong beryl nuts and doing alot of inhaler protein

[daring stag]

cluster is better than normal nobelisk?

[tawdry plank]

so just make whichever inhaler you can

[lean ferry]

btw remember we were speaking last night

[tawdry plank]

it does much more damage and has little bombs

[lean ferry]

I got heavy encased frame 🙂

[tawdry plank]

i speak? wow.

[daring stag]

gonna craft em then

[tawdry plank]

yippee

[daring stag]

craft them to the cloud directly

[fluid sapphire]

banger recipe fr

[keen hawk]

oil in the desert is so hard to get to

[daring stag]

for the rocky desert the south islands are great

I wonder if explosive rebar becomes useless if you have cluster nobelisk

[tawdry plank]

#math-and-meta message
meanwhile i did this @lean ferry

1200 aluminum each cluster of refineries

in 2 blueprints i can just copypaste them

[lean ferry]

W

quick question

[tawdry plank]

quick answer

[lean ferry]

if u make a blueprint and set the recipe, when you make the blueprint does it still set recipe

[tawdry plank]

yes

including overclocking and slooping

[lean ferry]

so when u placed ur aluminium refineries recieps were already done?

[tawdry plank]

if you wanna add that too

[lean ferry]

yoo

[hasty cradle]

Explosive rebar is ranged so i still use it

[daring stag]

true

[tawdry plank]

i use only cluster bombs and homing/turbo ammo myselfg

but rebar is also good cause of the dmg

[daring stag]

turbo for hogs and homing for spiders?

[tawdry plank]

turbo for the bug things to kill it in 2 bullets

and hogs yes

[hasty cradle]

I Just nuke radioactive hogs and green spiders

[daring stag]

rly

2 bullets?

[tawdry plank]

more like 3-4 for the big ones but yes

i just kill em before they spawn stuff

[lean ferry]

bruh 😦

[daring stag]

ah yeah the bees

[lean ferry]

i scanned harddrive only good thing I got was encased frames

[tawdry plank]

and then i cluster bomb every other enemy

[hasty cradle]

Those are annoying

[daring stag]

but vs spider turbo is not so great no? hard to aim these things

[lean ferry]

im gonna tell u the ones that are like important

[hasty cradle]

Cluster bombs are not rlly good for smaller enemies tho

[fathom shuttle]

For some reason my aluminum refineries are backing up after I’ve upgraded everything to mk6 belts

[lean ferry]

theres pure iron ingot, polymer resin, molded beam steeled frame, bolted frame, flexible freameowrk

[lean ferry]

mk2 pipes?

[tawdry plank]

i use bombs

[fathom shuttle]

Yes obviously

[tawdry plank]

a direct hit from a cluster kills the big guys

[lean ferry]

then idrk

[tawdry plank]

and the little clusters kill the small spiders

[daring stag]

cluster bomb right? I'm in the process of automating cluster into alien cloud

[tawdry plank]

yep

[lean ferry]

so do I get any of the blueprints I said? or do I rescan

[tawdry plank]

?

which ones

[hasty cradle]

For some reason the alpha hogs Just eat the clusters from the Cluster bomb

[daring stag]

but these things jump all over the place seems hard to cluster them I guess you just go to melee so they don't jump

[charred snow]

i cant use the mam because its cut off like i can see the lines but i cant acess the other boxes

[tawdry plank]

they are health sponges

[lean ferry]

these ones (the rest are irrelevant)

if not I can still rescan

[tawdry plank]

i just fly above them and put a cluster on their face as they try to jump to me

[hasty cradle]

I mean when i explode the bomb the actual clusters seem to not come out

[tawdry plank]

then release when they land

[hasty cradle]

But in reality they immediatly hit the hog when i explode the main bomb

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll need to rebuild the entire aluminum set up to make mk6 belts work

[tawdry plank]

sometimes the clusters explode on the same spot as the big one cause of colission

[fathom shuttle]

This sucks

[tawdry plank]

D:

i made mine with mk6 belts in mind

[hasty cradle]

Gl ig

[fathom shuttle]

Me too, all I needed to do was double the clock speed

[hasty cradle]

What do yall use on the big spitters

I hate them so much

[fathom shuttle]

Once I did, it broke on me

[daring stag]

homing ammo for me

[tawdry plank]

turbo ammo

[hasty cradle]

The smaller ones Just eat an explosive rebar and die

[daring stag]

they kill spitter fast enough and don't need to aim

[tawdry plank]

it kills them quick and i can shoot far away

[keen hawk]

nuke nobelisks

[boreal musk]

are you using the numbers i give? double clock is not possible for 1200, you need 4th alumina refinery

[hasty cradle]

Whats the recipe for that?

I didnt unlock it bc it Just seemed useless to me

[tawdry plank]

turbofuel, aluminum casing and ammo

it's not too bad and has a magazine of 75

the largest magazine

[willow dawn]

Is there any downside to cast screws? It just cuts out the rods but nothing else seems different

[hasty cradle]

They need to charge right?

[tawdry plank]

nope

[hasty cradle]

You get alot of them

[tawdry plank]

it's a straight upgrade

[hasty cradle]

Way faster

[fluid sapphire]

downside is you are still making screws

[tawdry plank]

but you get screws

[fathom shuttle]

Yes I am
I added the forth refinery, I adjusted the clock speeds to 200% so that I can group 2 refineries together and sent the waste water to the sloppy refineries
2 electrode scrap refineries make 420 water
1 sloppy refinery takes 420
The numbers work perfectly fine but idk what’s the issue

[tawdry plank]

you can give them to me 👀

[willow dawn]

Nice 🙂

[tawdry plank]

no reason 👀

[boreal musk]

what is backing up in that system?
water?
solution?
scrap?

[hasty cradle]

Whats your guys opinion on the steel beam-> 52 screws recipe

I always use that one

[fathom shuttle]

Water
Everything else is fine

I tried adding a buffer, only made the time to backup longer

[boreal musk]

you need 2nd pipe, since 1200 out putting 840 water/min

[fathom shuttle]

Yeah that’s what I did
I joined 2 refineries together on a separate pipe

[daring stag]

also do you put the highest level belt everywhere when you have enough resources?

[boreal musk]

thats why i said i prefer to make new setup for another 600, much easier and less pain to do instead of clocking to fit 1200

[fathom shuttle]

The refineries get enough coke too so there is no issue there

[steel delta]

Is there a good guide on best practices for trains?

[tawdry plank]

i started doing that with mk5 belts now

cause i am making a lot of alclad sheets

[fathom shuttle]

Yea that’s what I’ll do
Shouldn’t take too long, already got the blueprints ready

[tawdry plank]

more than i'll ever need so i put 2 depots for it

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll probably make a new blueprint for smelters because the current one is very ugly

[hasty cradle]

When im finnaly committing to making a mk6 belt factory i will

[fluid sapphire]

you should do that, it significantly reduces the error chance of having a wrong level belt somewhere in your line

[hasty cradle]

For now mk5 belts everywhere have to do

And mk6 where its needed like my aluminum factory

[fathom shuttle]

Once the aluminum rebuild is done I’m gonna visit the higher cliff in the game

And grab the uranium node there

[fluid sapphire]

how high up do drones go before they start moving out from a port

[lean ferry]

is coke steel ingot good guys

[halcyon raft]

for what resons trains start unload res to others stations, without my permission?

[uncut trail]

made 40 versatile frameworkkkk

another 960 to go

[daring stag]

for me yea when coal is too far away I just create it from other sources

[fathom shuttle]

Too expensive because it uses oil on something like steel

[lean ferry]

k

guys

how many cluster bombs I make a min 2.5 or 5

[hasty cradle]

I would say 2.5

[lean ferry]

I can make 5 but it might be too much (or I can sink extra?)

[daring stag]

I'm trying my cluster bombs, great for terraforming these annoying trees and plant life

[fathom shuttle]

No difference really

[uncut trail]

is this game cpu or gpu heavy?

[mortal ginkgo]

both

[fathom shuttle]

Yes

[hasty cradle]

I need to automate nukes when i get back home

[uncut trail]

im raw dogging it with 1050

[hasty cradle]

I used it bc HOR was annoying and i needed more steel

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, its a bit of an old GPU in'it

[uncut trail]

yea very old

[daring stag]

I have 90fps with a 3090

[mortal ginkgo]

I think you can still play the game with medium or so graphics

[hasty cradle]

And then theres me who doesnt know anything about pc specs

[uncut trail]

bro my belts are autistic

[daring stag]

if it works

[mortal ginkgo]

big number = better, thats all you need to know kek

[uncut trail]

iron wont go in foundry when its not full

[mortal ginkgo]

make sure it got power

make sure you got a recipe

[hasty cradle]

Is it connected?

Sometimes belt look like theyre connected when they arent conencted

[uncut trail]

there was a fuckin berry in front of belt...

who tf put it there

[mortal ginkgo]

I did 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

how high do drones go before they set off from a port

[dense violet]

high enough to avoid terrain and stuff

[fluid sapphire]

whats the "stuff" part, can they avoid my walls

[boreal musk]

they dont have collisions

[fluid sapphire]

i know, thats why i am asking, i dont want them to clip through my buildings

[boreal musk]

its hard to predict drone's pattern

[fluid sapphire]

so i should build the port higher than the highest nearby rooftop probably?

[uncut trail]

should i remake my reinforced metal plate and rotor factory to make it more efficent?

[daring stag]

just make a new base elsewhere

[dreamy scroll]

You can always build it and replace it if you don't like the way they zoom off

[willow dawn]

If you want but don't be afriad to kill your darlings

[daring stag]

I still have my shit first base standing. it just fills dimensional depots

[uncut trail]

yea im doubting whether or not to remake my whole base or build it elsewhere

[daring stag]

resources are infinite on the map so I don't feel pressured to rebuild stuff. I just build elsewhere

[lean ferry]

I autmoated cluster bomb iAVhrasNHKJWNVdknsknalnwklndlv

I feel evil

[daring stag]

yeah me too, it's effective

[uncut trail]

where tf should i go

[daring stag]

2.5/min should be enough

well what's your tier

[stray loom]

Nothing wrong with a few war crimes

[uncut trail]

im still at the spawn place

[lean ferry]

I made 5 a min

you think 2.5 is enough? its gonna be raining clusters

[daring stag]

if you have unlocked oil, make a base on the western islands that have a lot of pure oil

[lean ferry]

btw quick question guys

[daring stag]

depends where you started

[lean ferry]

can I get like a list of alt recipes I rlly rlly need

rn I haev heavy encased frame, what important alts do I need (like heavy oil residue, diluted fuel, encased pipes etc

[uncut trail]

no im still at tier 4

[uncut trail]

first four of the spawn there were

[daring stag]

make a base near good coal source then

the first is grassy plain?

[uncut trail]

i think yea

[daring stag]

you have coal on the north west I'd go there personally

[uncut trail]

i have coal generators not too far and dragged energy to my base

i also kinda wanna future proof when i unlock more items

[daring stag]

according to my radar there arent alpha spider in that coal region

well

the western islands arent that far from your place

go there when you have oil for sure

[boreal musk]

my starter base up to tier 6 are all in grassy plain, i only branch out after i get aluminum

[lean ferry]

so gusy what alt recipes do I rlly need to get

[tawdry plank]

why does aluminum scrap require so many smelters 😭

[lean ferry]

I have heavy encased, what important ones are there

[daring stag]

from my understanding

[lean ferry]

hey yo can I get that alternate recipe list again

cuz I scanned 15 hard drives and i have 30 to choose between

[daring stag]

there aren't that much op alt recipes. they come in handy when your outpost doesn't have x or y resource

[lean ferry]

and this is my first time using alt recipes btw

[tawdry plank]

uh i dont have any at the moment but you can share a screenshot and i can suggest some

[lean ferry]

5 mins till my last harddrive is done scanning ill send it then

if there are not any good ones tell me to reroll them all and ill send u a pic of the reroll

[uncut trail]

what does purity:temp mean

[daring stag]

it doesn't matter a lot

you'll get tons of hard drives and end up not caring about what to choose

[boreal musk]

mostly an area with cluster of nodes around it

[uncut trail]

is desert area good?

[boreal musk]

depends on what you need

[uncut trail]

idk everything

[stray loom]

Can you not select the hard drive library tab at the top of the MAM interface while it's scanning a drive? I don't remember if it lets you

[lean ferry]

u can

but im tryna send a picture of all at once not multiple pictures

anyways afk im gonna go eat and let it scan

[boreal musk]

set your goal first of what thing you want to do, and then search for a place that you think its good for your project

[tawdry plank]

accidentally linked a conveyor to the ore instead of the ingot merger of my smelter...
#screenshots message

i was wondering why i wasnt making any alclad sheets

[uncut trail]

tbh i need smart plating and versatile framework for phase 2 ig

[tawdry plank]

💀

[boreal musk]

thats just iron and coal, pretty easy even in grassy plain

[uncut trail]

so remaking base that is ty

[boreal musk]

if you want to go outside grassy plain, rocky desert has some coal nodes with 4 pure iron nearby

north west of rocky desert

[uncut trail]

i kinda want it but dragging resources from my base to there will be a hustle

[tawdry plank]

the desert also has a lot more nodes closeby to eachother

[uncut trail]

im just gonna try to make all my factories little more efficent

[tawdry plank]

it's better to set up factories at the resource nodes not drag them to a main base

[reef basin]

No, because there's no "list" that would be reasonavle to use

[tawdry plank]

try to make satellite factories instead of one big one

[boreal musk]

#screenshots message

@uncut trail for example, this is my starter base up to tier 6 (every resources are inside grassy plain except quartz)

[tawdry plank]

there are some nice to haves but no essential alts. other than maybe stuff like heavy oil residue

[uncut trail]

damn how tf did you build allat

[tawdry plank]

blueprints are very helpful

you can just copypaste 4 smelters at once for example

[boreal musk]

the only blueprint im using is for 5x5 concrete

and all of it are load balanced just for fun 😛

[uncut trail]

yea i know those havent unlocked yet

[fluid sapphire]

literally anything you expect to do more than once or twice that involves a bunch of intricate placements, is a task for a blueprint

[tawdry plank]

madman

[fluid sapphire]

just build it once and be done with it

[uncut trail]

i shouldve stuck to playing cs2

[tawdry plank]

i still didn't use blueprints at all till phase 4

[fluid sapphire]

neither did i

[tawdry plank]

nah you were saved by ficsit

[north furnace]

my brain tells me that it cannot be good enouth material for those 4 smelters on this belt but eh might be mk4 belts idk
But also all belts look empty so idk

[boreal musk]

#screenshots message
my load balanced hmf setup

[stray loom]

Let's be real tho that's not how it works. You make the blueprint and think it's good and build the factory. Then you realize you don't like how it looks/works so you remake the blueprint and rebuild the factory. Rinse and repeat until you finally get tired of redoing it 😄

[boreal musk]

tbh its not that hard since the number is very easy to do

[tawdry plank]

yeah it's not hard but it's more hastle than i would put

[dreamy scroll]

Place the same blueprint 200x and accept it's ugly but works. Got it.

[tawdry plank]

tho to be fair all of my phase 2 stuff were loadballanced

[fluid sapphire]

nah, i leave the factory as is, fix my blueprint and fix the problems in the factory manually. its not usually a lot of things that need fixing

[tawdry plank]

tbh i never redo a bp

[boreal musk]

1k hrs of experience, not as much as peeps in this server, but still a lot

[tawdry plank]

it's a 1 and done

[uncut trail]

rookie numbers

[boreal musk]

yep

[tawdry plank]

i mean yeah there are people here with 5k hrs

[fluid sapphire]

if the blueprint works, and looks OK, its done, ready, no need to screw around with it

[stray loom]

Build a box around it and then put a new factory on top until you have a lasagna

[tawdry plank]

even me with 200 is just a drop in the bucket

[boreal musk]

theres a guy with 15k hrs here

[tawdry plank]

man i want lasagna now

but i already made pizza today

[lean ferry]

YO

[tawdry plank]

oy

[lean ferry]

ENCASED INDUSTRIAL PIPE OR STITCHED IRON PLATE

[fluid sapphire]

both

[lean ferry]

bw im gonna send a screenshot of the entire list

[tawdry plank]

encased is nice

[cedar portal]

I assume they just leave the game running overnight every night. Even so... thats some crazyhours

[lean ferry]

I got unlcuky its the same one

I can only choose between them someone choose f or me

[tawdry plank]

then stitched if you have iron wire

[lean ferry]

I dont have iron wire

[tawdry plank]

then encased

[uncut trail]

15k hours is 2 fuckin years

thats dedecation

[tawdry plank]

darkviperAU hours

he got like 13k on gtav speedrunning

[lean ferry]

@tawdry plank check screenshots i will send 2 of my whole harddrive alternate

[uncut trail]

thats a gta addict right

[tawdry plank]

yep

he just did an all awards series where he is getting every single online achievement and he went so insane

the right type of insane

[stray loom]

Maybe not as crazy as that. EA for Satisfactory was 2019 after all. Doesn't feel like it's been that long tho which is kind of wild

[lean ferry]

hold on wait 30 second so I can send 2nd screenshot

[uncut trail]

gta is game i have most hours on and its only 550+

[boreal musk]

the only thing left i need to automate in grassy plain is no oil computer and then i can move one to phase 4

[tawdry plank]

i got that many on my hardcore minecraft world

[lean ferry]

@tawdry plank check screenshots and tell me which to get- if theres not any good ones I still have one rescan left for all of them

[boreal musk]

but i need to hunt some hard drives

[reef basin]

WHICHEVER YOU WANT

[uncut trail]

yea thing is that i have a life

[fluid sapphire]

first setup with blenders, blenders feel like a big boy machine with its 2 pipe and 2 conveyer inputs

[lean ferry]

ecnased pipe btw if u can help check screenshots I have a list of all alternates I have

[cedar portal]

Thats still 8 hours a day EVERY day for 5 years.

[tawdry plank]

cast screws, copper rotor and molded recipes are nice

[lean ferry]

srry for asking for alot btw I just wana be sure of myself

[tawdry plank]

you can rescan the second harddrive

[reef basin]

There's nothing like "always good" or "always bad" recipe. All depends on your preferences

[tawdry plank]

you dont have to worry tho cause every recipe has a role

maybe except biocoal

never used that one

[reef basin]

Even that

[lean ferry]

molded beam is terrible tho

[reef basin]

No, not really. All recipes have a use

[lean ferry]

im probably gonna do cast screws and rescan the rest

[tawdry plank]

eh it's pretty good at scale

[lean ferry]

i dont think I need copper rotors

[tawdry plank]

since concrete is so common you dont need to save it

[lean ferry]

time to rescan the rest!!!

[reef basin]

Yeah, better decide yourself than letting randoms decide for you

[lean ferry]

OMG DILUTED PACKAGED FUEL

[boreal musk]

i can do biocoal for my diamonds just for the funny

[fluid sapphire]

nice

[lean ferry]

LETTSSS GOOOOOOOO

[tawdry plank]

plastic ai limiter is also nice

[fluid sapphire]

ya out of the rotor recipes, steel rotor is probably most popular

[lean ferry]

huh I can get invetory slots from mam?

[tawdry plank]

dew it

[lean ferry]

caterium computer overpriced anyways so gimme that

[tawdry plank]

yeah you can get 2 expansions or 3

in total

[stray loom]

Any alt that gets rid of copper is a win in my book. I need all my copper for pasta

[reef basin]

See, that's the "personal preference"

[tawdry plank]

still havent got to the copper powder steps so i still use em

[lean ferry]

btw turbo heavy fuel? or iron pipe

they are both good so I need to decide

[tawdry plank]

both can be good

[reef basin]

Still the same answer...

[tawdry plank]

whichever you need now

[fluid sapphire]

iron pipe

[tawdry plank]

iron pipe is nice for some factories so you dont use any coal

[fluid sapphire]

more versatile

[lean ferry]

actually

I need wet concrete cuz concrete hard to get

[boreal musk]

all my coal are reserved for diamonds, so iron pipe is nice to have

[tawdry plank]

eh limestone is the third most common resource

you dont lack it at the start really

[dreamy scroll]

Diamonds offend my thrifty ficsit soul

[willow dawn]

HA! You can build on glassroofs, now I can make a glassfloor base above the beautiful coral lake in the north of the map

[uncut trail]

are those big bouncy walking creatures unkillable?

[willow dawn]

Rude

[stray loom]

No. They just have tons of hp

[gloomy minnow]

Easiest exam of my life

[shut turtle]

Quick question, I cant find it online, but is there a alternate recipe for Rocket Fuel?

[lean ferry]

all I need rn is heavy diluted, and wet concrete

[uncut trail]

theres one constantly at my base

[lean ferry]

and other than that its good

[boreal musk]

nitro rocket fuel

[stray loom]

Nitro Rocket Fuel

[lost wagon]

Those waste of space creature

[shut turtle]

ok ty

[reef basin]

All recipes are good 🙂

[shut turtle]

ok ty

[lean ferry]

I know but

my inner ficsit is telling me "prioritize the most effective ones)

[shut turtle]

Now which one is better to use? the Original Recipe or the Nitro? for Fuel Generators.

[lavish lance]

does the steam cloud not save blueprints?

[reef basin]

That depends on what definition of "effective" you use

[lost wagon]

Don't give you anything and just get in the way of your factories, ficsit should approve the extinction of them tbh

[lavish lance]

dont mind greeny, he has the need to be "technically correct"

[lean ferry]

hmm

[boreal musk]

original is much more complex since it use turbo fuel in production line but saves up sulfur and nitrogen

while nitro alt uses double the amount of sulfur and more nitrogen, but much easier to do cuz youre not doing turbo fuel

[tawdry plank]

there's nitro

[lean ferry]

so I can either get a bunch of iron pipes and elim coal from heavy encased frame (just limestone and iron)

[reef basin]

I'm just trying to say to make your own decisions

[lean ferry]

but I need a recipe for concrete definetly cuz its so inneffective

[tawdry plank]

there's no most effective ones all can find a use

depending what's closest to ya

[reef basin]

No lol

[lavish lance]

if you want to get as much as you can, wet concrete is great

[lean ferry]

yeah, then wet concrete would be better cuz my factory is next to a huge lake

[lavish lance]

idk, i have seen you do that for years at this point.
its often anoying to write with you.

[lean ferry]

I dont have enough limestone tho

[shut turtle]

OK thank you for the info. Guess I need to hope and pray I get the recipe out of these 8 hardrives lol

[lean ferry]

I only have a normal node with mk2 miner- to get 5 hmf I need 360

ykw im gonna go drive hunting again and see what I get

[lavish lance]

wet concrete is great if you just want as much as possible.
but you could also use recepies later down the production line that use less concrete

[reef basin]

The point is "make your own decisions".

[lean ferry]

yeah..

[lavish lance]

the fact that he is asking, kinda points to him wanting an answer

[reef basin]

Because every player has different preferences

[willow dawn]

Gods, satisfacory tool is such an amazing help!

[lavish lance]

if he wanted to think about it himself, he wouldnt be asking.

[toxic nexus]

Im currently playing multiplayer with a friend and I host the world. But bc im playing less he wants to host the world. What files do I need to transfer so everything stays the same but he hosts the world?

[lost wagon]

Sometimes people just want to know the more effective recipe

[fluid sapphire]

he is obviously asking about other peoples preferences/opinions duh

[tawdry plank]

i also recommend modeler for making the layout after figuring out what you need to produce

[lost wagon]

Same reason why people use tools for production line and doesn't make their own decisions

[snow bronze]

yall is versatile framework and smart plating ever used again after phase 2?

[willow dawn]

Haven't looked into that one yet, but will now. Thanks for the tip

[lean ferry]

ykw. ill just do normal concrete now and l8r ill get wet concrete

[tawdry plank]

as ingredients for other space elevator pieces

[fluid sapphire]

yes, for more complex elevator parts

[reef basin]

Most people don't know that all the options are valid and think that there's only single best option, and that's why they are asking

[stray loom]

Yes. They are used as components in later parts

[boreal musk]

it will be used in phase 3 space part, and so on until end game

[lean ferry]

but come onnn I got encased frame and diluted packaged those are probably best recipes for me rn

[fluid sapphire]

thats why you assume they are asking, not why they always are

[tawdry plank]

it's a bit clunky at the start but it's very good to see the flaws in your plan

[lean ferry]

in my stage and in my location

[snow bronze]

oh, ok

[reef basin]

But what definition of "effective"?

[tawdry plank]

and just turn on 2D lines in settings and snap to grid @willow dawn

[snow bronze]

ill deal witht that laater

[tawdry plank]

so that it's tidy

[lean ferry]

anyways thank you guys for all the help, im going to go afk and do my hmf factory

[willow dawn]

Thanks, will do

[lean ferry]

thanks yall

[lost wagon]

More for less

[reef basin]

But that already requires them to input their preferences

[reef basin]

But how do you value different resources? Is 1 coal more or less than 1 copper?

[stray loom]

You need a total of 4,300 Smart Plating and 5,390 Versatile Framework to complete all the phases

[lost wagon]

Any recipe that makes me use less machines for the same output or sometimes more is the better recipe

[tawdry plank]

can you put signs on the side of conveyors cause normal ones dont seem to snap to it

i wanna note how much of a conveyor is used after a split to know how much i got left

[willow dawn]

Can you launch it at the same time as the game?

[reef basin]

That usually depends on whole recipe path, not single recipe

[tawdry plank]

yeah i usually got it on my second screen

[stray loom]

No but you can use beams to put signs where you want

[snow bronze]

aint so bad, thanks! :3

[tawdry plank]

alright i guess

[willow dawn]

You guys already on my second screen 😛

[snow bronze]

ill make better production later

[tawdry plank]

real

i alt-tab between discord and modeler

[snow bronze]

i was just worried itd be required for building stuiff

[tawdry plank]

nah only space elevator stuff luckily

[snow bronze]

theyre a pain to make

[tawdry plank]

they are a lil less painful with some alts but yeah

just inconvenient in general

FUCK I FORGOT A FULL COLA IN THE FREEZER

🏃🏻

[boreal musk]

phase 2 is the only part i automate aside from the last phase, since you need a lot of them for phase 3 and 4

[tawdry plank]

fuck me... the bottle exploded everywhere

[stray loom]

RIP

[tawdry plank]

welp the aluminum factory can wait....

brb guys

[lost wagon]

I like satisfactory logistics for planning, it's s combination of the other 2, it create the production line for you and let you tweak changing the recipes for alt ones per machine, the flowchart also looks good

But when I don't use that I use modeler too

[lean ferry]

guys yk satisfactory tools- is there a way to choose max conveyor mark

cuz its saying I need to bring 600 iron ingots even though I can only bring 480 max

in conveyor

[stray loom]

It just tells you the numbers. Up to you to figure out the actual building design

[lean ferry]

kk

[lost wagon]

You will have to reduce the output amount, or bring it from 2 different miners, so it's only 300 each

[tawdry plank]

yeah figuring out how to split the resources is your job. the tool only gives raw number

[reef basin]

SFTools don't show conveyors

[vernal moon]

chat my trains dont have enough throughput do i just, get mor etrains

[tawdry plank]

use factory carts

much more effective

[willow glen]

Depends on whether that’s the issue or not. Might need more cars if you’re close to the 2 belt limit

[willow dawn]

Do doggos respawn?

[willow glen]

If it’s just train is taking too long then more trains might solve it

[vernal moon]

they are moving 1.75 480 belts

[stray loom]

Depends on a bunch of factors. Does the train take too long to make a round trip? Are the trains arriving not full? Are you using a buffer container on each end so you can still process items while the station is loading/unloading?

[fathom shuttle]

Apparently with controller, if you try to load in a blueprint from a different tier blueprint designer then try loading it, the game will give you an error right? Now if you open the bp designer again the main menu will open up but the other one will stay up too so you will get stuck and have to relaunch the game to get unstuck

[willow glen]

I wonder how much buffer containers matter; the machine inventory is quite large, usually it takes care of the loading/unloading times

[boreal musk]

@lavish lance you need belt for auto connect, just by having splitter to splitter wont be registered by the game

[fluid sapphire]

if you mean between the output of one and input of next, the only time they do anything is when you have a feedback loop that you want to kickstart

any other time they do nothing

[lavish lance]

thats fair.
i still weird that its not implemented to accord for that.
i have stuff like that all over my blueprints, and i cant be the only one

[boreal musk]

the game wouldn't know what belt to use if its the case

so you need to have belt's end so the game know which

[lavish lance]

it would, simply use the one type thats already connected to the splitter/merger

[vernal moon]

oh one of my stations diditn even have signals qwq

[lavish lance]

and if its mixed, chose the higher tier, this should be doable

[willow glen]

blueprints can’t change things that already exist in the world; it’d be a nightmare if pasting a blueprint deleted or changed things that were already setup

[stray loom]

Depends how fine the margins are I suppose. I like using them because I think containers near train platforms makes it feel more like an actual industrial factory but you could always just put empty containers down for the visuals as well

[lavish lance]

thats not what im saying
im saying the game can figure out what belt type to use for auto connect by looking at the existing connections in the bluepring.
that is not unrealistic, its just not implemented

[willow glen]

ya that’s fair; I just was always told buffer containers matter but when I run thru the math there’s very few cases where that changes throughput (copper powder is one of them).
This run I went totally without them; had a problem with casing so I added one, and all it revealed was that I wasn’t delivering enough to begin with (not a problem the buffer can solve lol)

[tawdry plank]

the game doesn't tho, even the throughput monitor doesnt figure out the output until the items cross through it. that's why on BPs you still need to put a bit of belt of the mk you want otherwise it wont connect

[stray loom]

I think they probably matter much more if you're using fluid trains which I do cause they are cool

[lavish lance]

the game does know what type of belt you used in a blueprint for each connection.
if it didnt know, blueprints would not exist.

[tawdry plank]

yeah but you can mix and match belts so which one would it take from a splitter with mk1 and a mk5 belt

[lavish lance]

and if it didnt know, it couldnt place the hologram either

[tawdry plank]

it wont assume the one straight forward would be the one to choose

[lavish lance]

as i said, if there is a mix, picking one of the options id consider acceptable

be it random, the first, or the highest tier

[tawdry plank]

eh it's not that much of a hastle to put a start instead of making the game pick for you

[lavish lance]

i personaly never mix belt types

[tawdry plank]

i'd also like the bps to connect power lines but they dont either

[lavish lance]

yeah but they could in a future update

[tawdry plank]

i wish

[lavish lance]

would be nice

[tawdry plank]

we can cope

[lavish lance]

there is the QA site

[white dawn]

Unlikely re: power. With belts + pipes there's clear "connection" points, but you can't have a "hanging" power cable

[tawdry plank]

i just set up alclad assemblers and the depot let's go

i can mk5 belt everything now

[white dawn]

Figuring out which power pole / power socket to autoconnect on blueprints would be a frankly impossible task in all but the simplest cases

[tawdry plank]

3 depots on the alclad sheets

[white dawn]

Though I agree it wouldn't be impossible for them to have some kind of blueprint-only buildable to specify power connections

[lavish lance]

the game could pick the closest Power pole by X/Y/Z coordinate and connect it to the closest of the other blueprint.
that should be possible

[white dawn]

But that still might not be what you want in many circumstances

I've got blueprints with a lot of power sockets, with more than one that might be equally distant

[lavish lance]

idk then have an option to toggle autoconnect power

[white dawn]

Autoconnection only makes sense when there's a clear connection point (ie: "hanging" belt/pipe)

As I say, there's probably ways to do it if they cared enough (with a "blueprint-only" kind of power socket, for instance) but I wouldn't hold my breath. :)

I agree some kind of auto-power-connection would be nice, but at least connecting power afterwards is pretty trivial

[lavish lance]

if you look at my (screenshot)[https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1396490699360174090]
im like "whats the point of autoconnect if it doesnt autoconnect"

[vernal moon]

can i just say im so glad they removed the nudge limit

[tawdry plank]

it's not the biggest loss but i would appreciate the convenience

[vernal moon]

too far away i think

[tawdry plank]

vertical nudging my beloved too

[lost wagon]

trains look cool but goddamn it takes a long time to set up the rail

[willow glen]

AND vertical nudge, without mods? Oh what a blessing

[vernal moon]

or no actually its because there is no belt at the end of the splitter

[lost wagon]

drones you just put the 2 ports it needs to travel in between, right?

[willow dawn]

I just got the diluted fuel recipe, thats a good one right?

[white dawn]

Gets easier with practice; personally I find laying rail much faster than laying equivalent belts, for instance

[lavish lance]

plenty of reasons to why it doesnt work, but i feel like thats an issue for the devs to solve.
i fee like this is a common usecase and it SHOULD work

[white dawn]

Yep, drones only ever go inbetween their "home" port and one remote port

[fluid sapphire]

you just gotta find your compromise between OK looking rail and building speed

[vernal moon]

no it just has no reference for what teir of belt to use

[willow glen]

Two ports, one drone, need fueled at home port (where you build the drone).
Or you can fuel it at destination if you hand feed it for the first trip… dunno how successful that is, maybe I’m lucky

[lavish lance]

i already went over that.
the game can figure it out if implemented.
read above

[vernal moon]

yeah but then it could use a tier you dont want in specific instances, it best to give the player the control imo :3

[lost wagon]

yea, I have to make some blueprints, I have one with supports but building in places that are high will be a pain in the ass because I would also need to complete the support until the ground, not doing that lmao

[lavish lance]

chosing a wrong belt tier in specific situations does not take away choice.
you can still just upgrade over the belt to get the correct tier

but you could make it correct more often than not

[willow glen]

Frame foundation and vertical zoop are so nice for being lazy about realistic looking supports

[fluid sapphire]

me with my frames everywhere

[boreal musk]

i remember when jace said nudge is too powerful so they limit it to 8m only

[fluid sapphire]

what

[willow glen]

lol so powerful for what

[lost wagon]

for solving our problems

[fluid sapphire]

yeah idk it never made sense to me

[lavish lance]

they said that?
i thought it was just a technical limitation at the time

[willow glen]

the only problem it solves is lining things up, which is nice to do in satisfactory but def not needed lol

[white dawn]

Nah, not technical; CSS just wanted folks to be placing stuff with "intention" and had only really intended for nudge to be used for minor placement adjustments

In the end they bowed to popular pressure on the topic, though

[lost wagon]

they could claim that if the snapping actually worked properly

[fluid sapphire]

a limit on nudge distance really runs counter to the whole game's design which seems centered around eliminating stupid obstacles, not creating them

[vernal moon]

true lmao

[lost wagon]

blueprints is a pain in the ass to align sometimes and if the nudge was 8m only it would be impossible

[willow glen]

in practice all it meant tho was that I’d be annoyed and hitting H more often after aiming slightly to the left, or deconstructing things so I can aim at the perfect spot. If that’s intended difficulty then wow

[keen hawk]

is oil intentionally in the most out of the way places, far from caterium just to be obstinate

[lost wagon]

yes

[keen hawk]

this desert biome stinks now

[lost wagon]

they want you to use the transport stuff

[white dawn]

I mean, remember that prior to nudge being implemented there was no nudge. The whole point of the feature was to eliminate obstacles. When you're coming from a position of "this is a great new feature which will make building easier," you may also have in your mind "we don't want this to be game-breaking somehow"

[keen hawk]

im as far as it gets from the coastal oil i always use

[willow glen]

absolutely. But oil is also mostly independent; even for the good plastic and rubber you only need oil and water

[vernal moon]

i used the trains for oil when i got there but before that i just got power to the oil node and made the products there

[fluid sapphire]

well, sure, i just dont personally see how it could be game-breaking in any sense

[white dawn]

In the end, having infinite nudge available wasn't really game-breaking at all; they were perhaps somewhat too conservative with their initial limits on the thing. But it wasn't out of character. Indeed, it was an extremely welcome change when implemented

[snow bronze]

san someone tell me how to make smokeless powder?

[keen hawk]

the issue is that
i am currently separated from oil by a few mountain ranges i cant even run power through without dying
I suppose its time to run a carpet bombing expedition

[white dawn]

Well, right, and CSS eventually agreed. I'm just saying that having a bit of caution when implementing stuff isn't a strike against them

[fluid sapphire]

the lack of vertical nudge in a 3d space is pretty silly though if you think about

[boreal musk]

nudge was implemented in update 5, which is pretty old build and at that time builds arent as crazy yet

ofc theyre wary about the nudge being powerful

[willow glen]

Research it in the MAM. Requirements are black powder already unlocked, and oil

[willow dawn]

Can I not hand craft compacted coal?

[boreal musk]

no

[willow dawn]

mehh

[stray loom]

Your soft hands simply aren't capable of making such a thing

[willow dawn]

Do you guys usually upgrade your coal powerplants to compacted coal?

[willow glen]

I thought hand crafting ingots was kind of a silly idea (how do you handle lava on a bench), but if you look at the crafting bench they did at least account for that

[unkempt blade]

nope I just use more coal gens and then make a mad rush to oil-based bower

[fluid sapphire]

its not worth the sulfur, there are better power sources

[cursive crane]

You usually end up needing it in t9

[willow glen]

nah. Oil is better (it’s used for turbofuel)

[cursive crane]

For.. other stuff.

[stray loom]

No but if I end up with compacted coal as a byproduct from something else I might throw down a few generators to burn it off

[fluid sapphire]

rocket fuel 👀

[willow dawn]

Ok, good to know 🙂

[willow glen]

I love that loop honestly, it’s so sad it’s popular to sink the compacted coal byproduct

[fluid sapphire]

i was thinking of using the compacted coal for something like steel at first, but im honestly not sure i can be bothered

would be cool if you could make diamonds out of it but oh well

[dreamy scroll]

I did a huge compacted coal cube once and then found out that it was used for more efficient things... at least it looked horrifying

[willow dawn]

Wow, there really isn't a lot of sulfur around

[fluid sapphire]

not me planning to use 3200 of all sulphur for nitro rocket fuel ehehehehh

[boreal musk]

all my compacted coal byproducts from rocket fuel goes into my compacted steel

[willow glen]

Caterium is also pretty rare but you end up not needing much of it unless you use the alts. Sulfur pretty much everyone wants to use

[snow bronze]

oooh

oke

i didnt have oil

[uncut trail]

how does blueprint designer work do i just build stuff there and save them?

[fluid sapphire]

Well yeah

[stray loom]

You build within the box and then interact with the console to save it yeah

[uncut trail]

ok ty

[dense violet]

more than enough, you don't ever need turbo fuel , and max uranium power uses less than 1/4 of the world map

[boreal musk]

funnily enough, you will likely to be out of caterium first than sulfur

[uncut trail]

funnily

[lean ferry]

I just realised how long its gonna take for hmf factory to buffer

😭 its gonna take liek 2 hrs

[willow dawn]

I don't?

I thought it would be good for the drones

[dense violet]

nope.
you could. You could also just do diluted fuel for them.

[south sinew]

turbofuel is pretty skippable yeah

best to go from diluted fuel to rocket fuel

[tawdry plank]

i didn't do turbofuel i just skipped to rocketfuel

and used my normal fuel factory till phase 4

[dense violet]

for most purposes, every processing step beyond diluted fuel essentially just converts other resources to more oil. Because you can always just produce more diluted fuel too

And diluted fuel power will get you to Nuclear power very easily

[lost wagon]

did Hornslet make a mod with the blueprints from this "collection"?
Because I can only find the CBT and CRS
https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/blueprints/index/details/id/3717/name/CTP+0L+1T+Straight+(1L)

[dense violet]

Rocket fuel is also extremely skipable

[lost wagon]

that one actually fit all the concrete shit I've been doing

[dense violet]

make make like 1 machine to make some jetpack fuel for you

[willow dawn]

I just got that recipe

[dreamy scroll]

Just skipping nuclear to do rocket fuel

[dense violet]

oil -> heavy oil residue alt -> diluted fuel = huge power from little oil

[willow dawn]

Heavy oil residue alt? whats that one?

[dense violet]

and the nuclear chain is simple + you don't need to plop down hundreds of fuel gens for meagre power

[dense violet]

!wikisearch heavy_oil_residue

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=heavy_oil_residue

[dense violet]

it turns oil to mostly HOR

[willow dawn]

Yeah just looking to get my drones running for now

[dense violet]

yeah diluted fuel will get drones flying across the whole map

[stray loom]

Recycle the uranium waste into plutonium fuel rods and power drones with the atom!

[boreal musk]

hor alt converts 3 oil into 4 residue and some resin as byproducts

which is a very powerful recipe

[willow dawn]

ahh don't have this one 😦

satisfactory tools is saying I should use the rubber recipe

[dense violet]

go find it 😄 it's super efficient oil recipe for ... basically any production chain you can use

[dense violet]

that's because you don't have hte HOR one.

[willow dawn]

Ok, I will see if I can find it... not really looking to spend hours searching again so hopefully I will get lucky

[south sinew]

diluted (packaged) fuel is crazy good even without HOR, but even better with it

[dense violet]

if you want to make oil extremely efficient in output it's critical to the chains for fuel, plastic, and rubber

[willow dawn]

Ok, Imma go and touch some grass

see ya later

[versed vault]

What is a good way to transport stuff from a mountain top down to where I actually need it? Building ramps feels bad. To get a bit more specific, there is a SAM pure node on some mountain to which there is no clear route to. I made it up and built a miner on it but now I'm having issues with getting the stuff off the mountain

[willow dawn]

Drone?

[versed vault]

hmm don't have that yet

[stray loom]

Some combination of belts and conveyor lifts is probably going to be the most practical solution

[versed vault]

hmm ok, this'll be ugly then until I can do something better

[lost wagon]

when I started on rocky desert I used lifts to bring down the coal from up there

[vernal moon]

is there a way to make a sloped t intersection not be rly ugly btw

[boreal musk]

id rather have intersection flat

[fluid sapphire]

I have tried and have not managed

[arctic spindle]

I dreamed about my factory

[fluid sapphire]

Just make it flat

[arctic spindle]

why did I get this game

[ashen spruce]

@unreal sparrow (sorry for ghostping in #screenshots), what is the downside of having the 3 sec uptime compared to the old route, it's not like your entire factory is gonna break, right? (I don't use trains most of the time, so idk)

[vernal moon]

too steep an incline,,,,

[tawdry plank]

wouldn't be my first time i did something like that

[fluid sapphire]

Make it further away then

[vernal moon]

#screenshots message not rly an option,,?

[boreal musk]

for your sake, just rebuild the intersection and make it flat

[vernal moon]

i would have to move at least 1 train station

[boreal musk]

is there already a train moving in that system?

[vernal moon]

thres 3

[boreal musk]

oof, gotta be rough to do

[stray loom]

Have the branch cross over the ramped bit and loop back around to the right side where you have flat ground at a similar level

[lost wagon]

where in the game's file the folders/categories of the blueprint menu is stored? so you can have thei neatly organized in any save, apparently just copying the blueprint files from one folder to another doesn't also organize them

[vernal moon]

theres a station like, directly at the bottom of the incline,

[vernal moon]

oki hold up ur cookin

[unreal sparrow]

my issue is that it doesnt use the new bridge^^
and i want it to use the new bridge.. because i dont want it to be ununsed after spending many hours building it (and other things)

the factory isnt gonna break i just have to find a way to artificially elongate the other route a little bit which feels a bit.. stupid.. yk^^

[stray loom]

Do you still need the old route for other trains? Could just remove it if you don't

[ashen spruce]

Ok, then just do 2 loops and all gud haha

[vernal moon]

yeah this looks awesome tysm! :3

[ashen spruce]

#screenshots message
guess

[vernal moon]

ur gonna mine that iron ore alright

[stray loom]

Can't just say that and not share it

[ashen spruce]

You mean that iron ore?

Well, because Ficsit can't waste, they somehow made mini nukes incapable of destroying atleast the top part of the iron, but they let me trash Plutonium Waste.

[vernal moon]

#screenshots message !!!

[lost wagon]

can you blow those? when I tried nothing happen

[vernal moon]

the bottom track is also perfectly centred between the 2 supports ~w~

[ashen spruce]

haha

I "revived" myself after death

took an inhaler after ded

[fleet crest]

I just found a game breaking bug with photo mode

[lean ferry]

how long does it take for a hmf factory to buffer

[fleet crest]

if you start flying with the jetpack, enter photo mode, hold space and press r to enter decoupled camera, you can fly forever (until you exit decoupled camera, of course)

doesn't matter what type of fuel afaik

[hasty cradle]

That entirely depends on how much you make p/min

[lean ferry]

the highest thing is like 400/min

im making 10 a min

[crimson blaze]

Til elite stingers can attack other creatures and it makes them even more terrifying

[lean ferry]

using iron pipe alt and encased frames alt

[lost wagon]

all stingers attack iirc

[stray loom]

Not just elites. Hogs and stingers will fight each other. Don't remember if the others do as well

[fleet crest]

I have video proof, too

[lost wagon]

I had 2 big spider fighting 2 big spitters

[jaunty jewel]

stingers hate everything

[lost wagon]

spider lost

[lean ferry]

its slowly buffering

[lean ferry]

YO HE AINT WRONG IT WORKS

[fleet crest]

yeah

[frail sleet]

it's a known bug

[fleet crest]

I mean, I searched through server messages and found no one mentioning it

so I figured I'd share

since I found it accidentally

[frail sleet]

ye i haven't seen much chat about it, just read it on the wiki recently 😄

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Jetpack

[fleet crest]

ahh interesting

yeah just read on it

kinda funny that it wasn't fixed

[jaunty jewel]

• kill jetpack hog early on
• find packaged fuel at crash site
• profit

[fleet crest]

real

[ashen spruce]

jetpack HOG?!

[lost wagon]

yea, it's a rare one, a big hog using a jetpack to charge at you

[ashen spruce]

Hog Hog Motherf####r?!

[ashen spruce]

how rare?

1/1000

[lost wagon]

300 hours and only seen 1

[ashen spruce]

300 hours and only seen 00

[lost wagon]

well "seen"

[ashen spruce]

Does that mean it replaces Billy?

[lost wagon]

I only heard actually, was running away from 2 other mobs and I heard an explosion behind me, when I went back to fight the mobs there was a jetpack on the ground

[stray loom]

"There is a 1/1000 chance of any Alpha Hog spawner to spawn a special Hog variant equipped with a Jetpack. Some spawners are group spawners, if such one is chosen, all Alpha Hogs are replaced with Jetpack Hogs. "
That sounds both terrifying and hilarious

[frail sleet]

I've never seen one in >1k hours

[ashen spruce]

#screenshots message

[dense owl]

where would i find the cat mask

and dont just say the desert, i mean where in the desert

[ashen spruce]

desedrt

whoever pinged me in screenshots, your message got deleted.

[stray loom]

#screenshots message Is this a picture for ants?

[keen hawk]

i forgot to research fuel power before setting off on my oil finding adventures

i am extremely sad now

[marsh inlet]

how many fuel rods should i automate im bored

[lost wagon]

another crash smh my head

[ashen spruce]

you can clearly see irradiated Billy

[lost wagon]

can't even try to diagnose when it's random as shit

[subtle hatch]

I've been playing for 70ish hours on a save with multiplayer enabled, now a friend of mine is about to buy the game, should i restart with another save or just let him join and teach him the basics? I really don't like the idea of starting over because I'm doing good progress and i think i could get a burnout very fast even without all of the errors i did in the past.
(i'm in the space elevator phase 2 and I've completed all available tiers)

[lost wagon]

jump from a power tower and open a oil extractor UI? Crash
Open the blueprint menu? Crash

need more mercer balls, the upload speed is delaying my track blueprint spam

[fleet crest]

500 hours and haven't seen a single one

[ashen spruce]

[tawdry plank]

i just realized i accidentally put mk1 belts on the mergers on the smelter blueprint and i already placed 30 or so smelters....

better fix that before i place the last 100

[fleet crest]

you better ficsit (before you say it, yes I'm gonna get out)

[ashen spruce]

I am Mini Nuking you

[fleet crest]

🔥

[slender quest]

I let my friend start the new game, so he can be the host in MP and play his save independently when I'm offline. But my situation is that I have a bunch of "my" saves that I don't need help with.

So if your friend is ok with skipping the Phase 1 and playing in your save - why not.

[fluid sapphire]

i cant set clock speeds of resource well extractors separately? wtf man

[slender quest]

Set the clock speed of the central unit.

[subtle hatch]

Yeah but im scared that he gets overwhelmed with all of the new stuff without knowing the basics

Its his first time

[slender quest]

Take his pace then. Ask him if he's overwhelmed yet, take breaks exploring a bit. Or just doing shenanigans at the base.

[subtle hatch]

So making him start a save and getting him in the server once he is ready its not the best idea?

[fluid sapphire]

well, sure what choice do i have, but my problem: i have 6 pipes and i want to have 2 pipes each take 288, and the rest take 2x300, 2x 150

[slender quest]

Sum it up and place the clock speed that allows that output. Search field can handle 2x(288 + 300 + 150), then use pipe connectors.

[fluid sapphire]

you misunderstand, getting a total output is simple enough, its the splitting it that annoys me

[slender quest]

You can use valves to turn 300 into 288 if you need, so it's 4x300 + stuff, but after valves it's whatever you need.

[stray loom]

Why do you need to split it like that?

Sounds like you'd be better off building multiple smaller discrete blocks and not splitting things up

[slender quest]

Wait, are you talking about a dedicated server or MP game? Your friend can just invite you to their world (or open multiplayer) once multiplayer becomes available.

[lost wagon]

if you want to teach him, restart with him as the host and let him take the initiative, just be the "when in doubt ask me"

[fluid sapphire]

i need a specific amount of nitrogen total, the 2 pipes with the idiotic amounts are feeding a different system from the rest

[stray loom]

Might be easier to package and unpackage it then

[fluid sapphire]

it seems if i set the clock speed on the central unit, it proportinally adjusts the speeds of the extractors which throws all numbers out of whack

i would need to process aluminum just to package it, thats like extra annoying

[slender quest]

Just take the higher demand as the goal, the rest will be satisfied automatically, on it's own.

[fluid sapphire]

i dont get it

[slender quest]

If you give 300 to machines that need 288, it's fine (by my standards).

[fluid sapphire]

yes, technically it will work, i dont want my extractor to idle though

[slender quest]

It's fine.

[fluid sapphire]

so far there has always been a way to fairly simply set things up so there is no idling anywhere

thats a value judgment that i dont agree with, i am looking for a flat graph from my machines, if that was an acceptable solution for me, i wouldnt be here asking

[dreamy scroll]

Do your alu, package the overflow and sink it then

[fluid sapphire]

im talking about nitrogen that goes to making heat fused frames and nitro rocket fuel

packaging the extra nitro is extra hassle on account of having to make aluminum specifically for that

[dreamy scroll]

You said you want a flat graph

[dense turtle]

i swear them coal generators are driving me crazy

[fluid sapphire]

yes, usually there is a simple way to achieve it

[dense turtle]

no matter what i do i cant get them enough water

one is full and other 2 are constantly draining

[slender quest]

Hm, then:

1. Stuff with packaging and reusing/sinking.
2. Get gas from a different gas node for separate job.
3. Get another machine at low clock that uses enough gas to keep your well fully utilised.
4. Keep it as is.

[dense owl]

where can i find the cat helmet

[slender quest]

At 100% 3 extractors give water for 8 generators. Feel free to over/underclock to change the numbers.

[dense turtle]

im using 1 for three and its not enough

can i somehow send a video how it looks

imgur?

[slender quest]

Wiki had screenshoit, sec...

[dense turtle]

its not about the setup

them pipes are weird

[stray loom]

1 extractor to 3 generators leaves you 15m/s short

[dense turtle]

and yet 2 are empty

i mean at like 3m3

[keen hawk]

went exploring for a solid hour, but found no hard drives i could open :/

[stray loom]

Coal needs 45x3=135 but an extractor can only do 120

[slender quest]

Pics in #screenshots

[stray loom]

So you need more water

[lost wagon]

if I have a train with 2 wagons picking up 2 resources in a station, then going to another station, can it pick up another 2 different items and put inside the same 2 wagons?

[dense owl]

does the cat helmet even exist?

[dense turtle]

yeah @slender quest but i cant afford that rly i just want 3 gens with 1 pump

[cerulean gorge]

🐈‍⬛

[dense turtle]

and it will be enough

[slender quest]

Then overclock the pump.

[dense turtle]

but only 1 is getting enough water and i been playing with these pipes for an hour

[stray loom]

Then you have to overclock the extractor to make 135

[dense owl]

do u know where it is?

[slender quest]

Customizer is in locker section inside the room of the HUB.

[cerulean gorge]

no

[dense turtle]

the extractor is pumping even 150 sometimes

[cerulean gorge]

are we having fun playing with water extractors

[dense violet]

do an overhead image in #math-and-meta

but also run coal generators, 3 extractors , 8 gens

!wikisearch CG

huh, wiki bot is down

[slender quest]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Coal-Powered_Generator#Gallery

[fluid sapphire]

different nodes are out of the question, i am using basically all of the nitrogen anywhere nearby already, keeping it "as is" isnt an option, but...i do have a spare 30 fluid tanks actually, i am only going to package the fuel from 1 blender and i am cooking a total of 180. its annoying to have to package it but i guess i dont have another choice

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[dense owl]

i though you had to find it somewhere in the desert

thanks

[dense turtle]

i need power if i want to farm up that much

[slender quest]

You're welcome.

[subtle hatch]

Oh ok so it would better for me to start over?

[fluid sapphire]

thanks, i.. guess

hmm

would still be nice if i didnt have to deal with it at all and could set clock speeds

[dreamy scroll]

Put a suggestion in

[dense turtle]

so did u look at it?

[slender quest]

Only if you want. As I said, my friend plays in his save and invites me for help and muliplayer, while I have my own save to play alone.

[slender quest]

Just make sure to get enough power shards to OC all the outputs (instead of just central one) when you'll need even more gas.

[dense turtle]

yo i think i fixed it myself

my problem was the pump was closer to the one on the right

now its in the middle

[fluid sapphire]

hahahah never mind, i am actually a moron that cant read

Unlike other production machines, the Resource Well Pressurizer/Extractor system does not enter standby when the output backs up, and continues drawing full power regardless of actual flow.

[dense turtle]

nvm now the one on the right is not getting enough

bruh them coal gens are pain in the ahh

im about to crash out

imma use 50 bio gens for the rest of the game

[fathom shuttle]

The power consumption is kinda crazy tho, 500MW and you unlock it mid game

[cedar portal]

Sommerloops feels like cheating. 😄 I had my end game factory running by the time 1.0 came out and added them. Throwing them into endgame production machines would let me turn off like 75% of the machines in the world. or... make MORE from the same input.

[fluid sapphire]

500MW will be nothing once i have 300GW cooking

[keen hawk]

what is a superposition oscillator and what could a drop pod possibly have damaged to need it for repairs