satisfactory

[quick crest]

Can anyone here that's clued up with trains help me quick? Wont take long I promise!

[velvet drum]

What is the best way to get around the map and also move resources accross the map. It takes forever for me to get to my different factories and I have to belt stuff super far or build factories really far away because there's no resources around. I'm only at computers but I had to go prety far away from my other stuff for more copper

[covert talon]

https://gyazo.com/a7ac4e1acda5dec4fb2a777b22a14897

[unkempt blade]

trains are the second best vehicle

[loud ivy]

hypertube cannons

[loud ivy]

first best vehicle is unironically the cyber wagon due to insane speed

[unkempt blade]

sorry no, it's the factory cart

[quick crest]

make a hypertube cannons to boost you accross, or regular hyper tubes. use vehicles for transporting, then trains when you can, but if access to none of them you have to belt or build factories closer to main area.

[loud ivy]

i can't hear you going 400kph

[echo flicker]

guys what should i do for the jump from first phase of project assembly to the second one cause its a segnificant jump and i dont really know im new this is my first factory

[quick crest]

Can you help me?

[loud ivy]

wrong,its the golden factory cart

[fathom shuttle]

!wikisearch reanimated Sam

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=reanimated

[unkempt blade]

maybe, all things are possible through the love of the flying spaghetti monster

[velvet drum]

i have trains but i feel like ill end up having so many different lines and it will be a mess. should i do like one big loop around the map that all my trains can take to get where they need to

[fluid sapphire]

just expand and scale up, dont overthink it

[fathom shuttle]

130 is pretty good

[unkempt blade]

steel then oil stuff

[fathom shuttle]

You can easily make like 100/min and that’s a free 13k early game

[quick crest]

this would be a long term goal yes, to have a MAIN train line network that goes around the whole map. thaty way you can branch off to different areas more easily.

[quick crest]

what stage of the game are you at?

[quick crest]

in all seriousness tho, can you help me?

[velvet drum]

phase 4 space elevator

[unkempt blade]

only if it can be asked in the form of question or a #screenshots otherwise probably not

[quick crest]

you have access to trains in tier 4?

[quick crest]

can i add you and send screenshots

[stuck dagger]

phase 4

[quick crest]

its a train related issue

[velvet drum]

i have trains already. ive been using them but not ver effecivley

[loud ivy]

its quite common,i'm finished with phase four

[stuck dagger]

Trains are a phase 3 thing

[loud ivy]

so

[unkempt blade]

yeah but are you having fun? that's the important part of trains

[loud ivy]

not like they go out of fashion

[quick crest]

its hard to tell you what youre best option is without knowing your whole world situation

it depends on many factors

[stuck dagger]

Trains would be unlocked by phase 4, is all I'm saying

anyway, I'm also no big train expert

[velvet drum]

not really it look like garbage. and i just end up having these pretty smal factories for like rotos and motors and computers out in the middle of nowehre

[quick crest]

added u, dont need to add back but easier to message in DM

[sinful carbon]

just make a 16 belt highway blueprint

[loud ivy]

well yeah,i have a third map sized train track for resource extraction

[sinful carbon]

trains are overrated fr

[unkempt blade]

the garbage is how you learn to get good at trains though so you're off to a good start

[loud ivy]

you made me remember my first complex intersection

[velvet drum]

so is the optimimal way to have a big loop and then a train for each factory and they all shar the loop to get around the map?

[loud ivy]

i wanna die

[quick crest]

it takes a lot of work but if you want a flawless system then you wanna have a train route that directs everything to one place, its up to you how you do this, but once its done THEN everything gets easier (slightly lol)

[stuck dagger]

Nearly all my trains run on the same network and I always drag my feet when I need to expand it

[unkempt blade]

that's probably the simplest train traffic pattern at least. I mostly do double trains now but the intersections are more difficult

[fresh wharf]

I'd say each train system having their own train tracks would be fastest
Very messy

[loud ivy]

make a blueprint with a rail skybridge part and just go off into horizon

that's how i made my train network

[stuck dagger]

I've been trying to adhere to local terrain so it's pretty much all on me

[loud ivy]

someone needs 600 nuke nobelisks

[quick crest]

this is THE way. Also remember you can press 'r' and auto connect the new rail bridge to the previous one to stretch it out without adding rails inbetween.

[unkempt blade]

totally, was just digging up my blueprints for the combo road/train/tube setup I've been using #screenshots message

[quick crest]

whats with the colour combo lol

saucy

[unkempt blade]

it's beautiful and it makes me happy 😄

[loud ivy]

i don't stretch the rail,i have a 5x3 concrete foundation and tracks on top

[stuck dagger]

mario kart

[loud ivy]

place signals every 4 segments

[stuck dagger]

nuke nobelisks don't work when my rails are like 2m off the ground

[unkempt blade]

I do rainbows + emoji buildings for everything #screenshots message

[loud ivy]

using roads?your factory shall break a fuse

[quick crest]

ye but if you wanna do it fast and dont care as much about being perfect then stretching out can be way faster and less of a pain.

[quick crest]

i wanna see your world lol

[loud ivy]

all i do to set it up is fly with the hoverpack and double click every time i need a section placed

[loud ivy]

[lofty phoenix]

why does the alpha hog can hit me through huge mushroom thingy?

[fresh wharf]

Guys am I the only one that didn't have an organized factory by phase 4 or does other people relate

[stuck dagger]

Hit the alpha hog back

many, many times

[lofty phoenix]

im all out

[undone lichen]

Rock hitbox is pretty big

Shouldn't do much damage tho if you're not directly hit, only a small-medium knockback

[lofty phoenix]

@undone lichen i die from fall damage

[undone lichen]

Research parachute from mycelium tech tree

[lofty phoenix]

i did

[undone lichen]

Did you craft it

[lofty phoenix]

yes

[undone lichen]

Did you activate the parachute before reaching the ground

[lofty phoenix]

i equipped the hover pack at that time,i press the build button

[undone lichen]

Ohh..

[lofty phoenix]

when i come back i was fighting the alpha hogs and the desert spitter then a alpha stinger jump out of nowhere

now im dead again

[unkempt blade]

You're supposed to leave the mess alone so it keeps making materials and try to make the next expansion for the factory marginally less awful. It's called learning to play Satisfactory

[unkempt ermine]

how do i use a chainsaw?

[unkempt blade]

carefully and wear work boots and eye protection

[sharp sentinel]

I've decided after spending 3 hours trying to fix dips of 100-800 MW in my power generation that I will stop caring and start putting geothermal in too so it goes real crazy.

CHAOS REIGNS.

[unkempt blade]

if you use some power storage you can just kind of guess at where the average is and let it even itself out

[open pollen]

You need solid biofuel in your inventory

[sharp sentinel]

Not even going to bother. I can't keep letting keeping my power production line straight drive me insane. It's ruining my fun.

[unkempt blade]

the rough edges are part of the art! also it needs trains and factory carts

[open pollen]

What I did was setup a RF power facility to give me loads of power wiggle room so I won’t have to worry about it for a while (and any baby dips mean nothing)

[unkempt blade]

is leftover pizza or a mint oreo ice cream sandwich a better fuel choice to help me build my next factory chunk?

[open pollen]

Pizza imo

[median gazelle]

meow

[mild finch]

Based, there's prolly dips in my turbofuel plant, but geo's here to mask it hehe

[unkempt blade]

I appreciate your commitment to the bit. Keep up the great work

[winter spoke]

Are there mods like factorio's LTN? Where you can configure vehicles automatic resource moving between posts using requesters/provides?

[viral elbow]

what's the best place to go get lizard doggos? jsut started new game in meadows and despite extensive exploration have only found 2 of them so far

[leaden ether]

There are a small number of places that are sick with them. But most are far away. There is a somewhat close place called the doggo cave but it's a large vertical cave and hard to traverse (Has some nice starting treasures if you are persistent in exploring though. ||(Doggo cave is around -1800,700 or so, several entrances, one from the beach)||

[silk trail]

can u not place 5 water extractors in a row?? "rescource insnt deep enough" i can place it if i delete water extractors beside it... i dont get it

[unkempt blade]

I heard it's only non-prime numbers of structures in a row or you anger unreal 5

[silk trail]

i would be fine with six... but unreal 5 seems to be limited at 4

epic should fix this

[unkempt blade]

I assume that last one is just too close to shallow water though

[remote wasp]

you can try nudging it around and finding a spot that works

[robust brook]

Any tips for making spiders go away. I have quite a lot of playtime but I might quit cuz of how terrifying they are

[remote wasp]

turn on passive enemies

[open pollen]

Arachnophobia mode makes them into cat images

[robust brook]

Already have it on

[unkempt blade]

drag power lines around where they spawn and then kill them so they don't come back

[robust brook]

Thank you

[open pollen]

Then how are they terrifying? Cause they jump at you I guess?
I like arachnophobia mode cause it stops me from being scared by them and their meowing warns me they are near if anything

[robust brook]

They just are

[unkempt blade]

my cat is like 1/5 of the size of my dog and like 100x scarier so I totally get it

[covert talon]

does movement get any more efficient after the first leg upgrade

[unkempt blade]

run speed doesn't change after that but you can get a lot of non-bladerunners stuff that's useful

[open pollen]

You get a jet pack a d much later a hoverpack. If you slide jump one after another then you go faster as well

[fresh wharf]

I expand the same factory. My one and only factory produces everything I need. My head also hurts.

[covert talon]

do power shards consume more power?

[viral tendon]

What's the maximum amount of industrial containers connected you can fit on blueprint mk 2

[remote wasp]

yes, once you add them it will update the power consumption displayed

[timber shoal]

whats the point of the "pure" recipes? they produce less than the regular counterparts afaik and add an extra item required

[remote wasp]

they produce more ingots per ore than the regular ones, so only really useful if you are trying to maximize the per-ore quantity

[timber shoal]

pure caterium produces less

Pure: 12/min base

Regular: 15/min base

[remote wasp]

it's not the per minute, it's the ore -> ingot ratio that changes

[woven lava]

how many smelters can be on 1 mk1 drill?

[remote wasp]

depends on what the purity of the node is

usually it's pretty simple math

[woven lava]

normal

[stoic kernel]

2 smelters at 100%, 5 smelters when fully overclocked

[woven lava]

really? only 2? that seems kinda low

[stoic kernel]

assuming the smelters are taking 30 per minute

[remote wasp]

miner mk1 on a normal node is 60/min, smelters typically (iron and copper) need 30/min so 2 can fit

[rigid raven]

are space elevator parts useless once u done with them? like automated wiring or smart plating

[remote wasp]

they are used to craft later space elevator parts

[mild finch]

Well, it's only a mk1 miner, when mk3 miners have 4 timed the production, you could have twice the prod on a pure node, and you can overclock it to make 2.5 times the ores, so 2x2.5x2x4=40

[quiet gust]

Then they are useless except for one

[mild finch]

You can sink them for a load of points

[rigid raven]

alr ty

[rustic cave]

So if a MK3 belt holds like 250 and I was to make an iron factory how many nodes would I need and would they come in multiple lines

Or would they come in one into the melters

[distant pulsar]

depends on the qaulity of the node

and what miner mk you have

[rustic cave]

How do ik if it’s pure or not and what dose pure vs none pure do

Miners are MK2

[distant pulsar]

just more materials per minute the higher quality the node

impure, normal, pure

[mild finch]

You could just make a very small factory, i suggest you check out satisfactory modeler :3

[mild finch]

Normal rate = 2x impure rate
Pure rate = 2x normal rate

[remote wasp]

miner mk1 on impure node is 30/min for common materials, then double for each higher mark miner and each higher purity

[rustic cave]

So if I use MK2

Miners

And make a factory would using like 5 iron lines be good

And then like say 5 smelters

Or mabye 10 or is that to many

I have MK3 MK2 and MK1 belts

[remote wasp]

I'd recommend finding an area with a couple good nodes and building from there, you can do the math to determine how many of each building you need based on their input and output speeds

[dapper forge]

What are you making?

I would start from that

and not the other way around minmaxing with belt speeds as foundation

[rustic cave]

its a steel gfactory now i have steel stuff all unlocked im working on that

so like screws plates etc

[shy fog]

alas, screws are needed in such an insane quantity...

[rustic cave]

having ore intake at the bottom then it gets smeltted then goes up to be made into stuff

yea i have the alternate resapie so

then im gonna make more the first one is gonna be focusted on screws plates rods etc

[willow glen]

the one alt recipe I actually integrated into my early factory was adhered iron plate. Since RIP is used a lot, and rubber is kinda free at first, it was an easy upgrade to stretch my screws farther.

any alt recipe that gets rid of screws i embrace.

[distant bay]

they can also be sinked

[quiet gust]

i mean yeah but so can anything

[willow glen]

Project parts are worth the most sink points, if you’re gonna overproduce anything it should be them

[quiet gust]

fair

[distant bay]

relative to items in the same tier

[surreal ingot]

Everytime I think I understand how the numbers for machines work I find out I don’t. I only need 1 smelter and a MK II belt for 1 contractor making iron plates?

[unkempt ermine]

i thought i will build fairly organized... this is chaos and im only phase 1

[woven lava]

it only gets better over time

[distant bay]

spagehtti belts

[willow glen]

at standard rates a mk1 belt would be enough for that, since the maximum output of the smelter is 30 ingots per min.

[distant bay]

whats the max throughput for a mk1 belt?

[willow glen]

60

[unkempt ermine]

real

[distant bay]

yeah so you can attach up to two smelters per mk1 belt

[distant bay]

the spagehtti is all in the name of efficiency

[willow glen]

I’m trying my best to be organized and not clip things (excluding terrain and foundations when convenient), but it sure does take a lot longer to set things up that way

zooping out platforms and spagiffying a main factory ends up being a lot quicker, at least for me

[distant bay]

all in the name of efficiency, right

[surreal ingot]

For some reason if I put MKI it stops every few plates. If I put MKII it gets just enough to keep going indefinitely

[willow glen]

that doesn’t sound like it’s only 1 smelter then, or maybe you’re not accounting for the backed up part in the machine?

or maybe you’re overclocking, but that’s 75 not 120

[fathom shuttle]

Is anyone having issues with rails? I can’t use my hoverpack sometimes

[south kindle]

This has now joined my list of games I bought, put off for years, and now I’m addicted.

[viral tendon]

I've fit 80 industrial containers in one blueprint

[quiet gust]

There is a nonzero chance it's connected weirdly, check if trains have power on it, if not, it's just bc they have weird hotboxes for hoverpacks sometimes

[viral tendon]

3840 stacks

That's sure peak

192000 of items that got 50 stack

2 million of items that got 500 stack

Holy shit

I think that will be enough for nuclear waste

Temporary tho

[surreal ingot]

I’ll have to take a picture later, but my MKIs were stopping a lot but my MKII seems to flow smoothly

[terse kindle]

how do I regrow all flora in the SCIM website? I just uploaded my world to the site for the first time and can see my map. Regrowing all the flora is all I want to do.

[covert talon]

is sam the fastes early game awesome farm

[fathom shuttle]

It’s not, I’m pretty sure it’s bugged

It connects fine, but if I go out of range of a powered rail and build a new one, the new one doesn’t transmit power to my hoverpack

Almost died 3 times because of this lol

[terse kindle]

Does the SCIM site work in real time? Can I play my save file at the same time as I have it open in my browser? I'm scared

[fathom shuttle]

No

[terse kindle]

I see the download button there now, got it.

sorry

I'm struggling to find the regrow flora command

[covert talon]

can i destroy these fucks
https://gyazo.com/8b73492d0b31ca4a0659623d237a7bc2

[shy fog]

if you are asking how... explosives

[covert talon]

oh awesome thanks

[shy fog]

Mythbusters Jamie rule: When in doubt. C4

[winter ruin]

Anyone know what the most efficient process of making aluminum ingots is? I'm not sure what alternates to use and I want to make as many as possible per minute

[true mulch]

Resource efficient?

[winter ruin]

Yes

[true mulch]

Use Tools

It chooses the most resource efficient recipes

[winter ruin]

Yeah I ended finding electrode aluminum scrap + pure aluminum ingots to be the best

[true mulch]

Go for it then

[haughty flax]

dna capsule is used for coupons only after u are done the research?

[sharp sentinel]

I've been meaning to ask anyone else experience severe graphical flashing when they try to set the icon and colour of map markers?

[true mulch]

yes

[leaden ether]

Gah! SCIM map says there are two pure limestone nodes here and there is only one! I'm ruined!

[lament niche]

cave

[leaden ether]

Heh no not in a cave. THough to make up for it I will have to go into that cave off the NW coast and grab the one in there.

[white dawn]

I don't think SCIM has any errors in its node placements

They're taken directly from game data, I think

[spiral stratus]

I'm just starting the game and I'm already overwhelmed by the amount of stuff I'm seeing on the internet

[white dawn]

Make sure you're using the "Stable (1.1)" map; if you're using the "Early Access (Update 8)" map, then that'd be outdated

SCIM should show you the elevations as well

Note that for nodes that are in caves, you can generally do some shenanigans with conveyor lifts to bring them up to the surface. Can construct some official-looking buildings around the sites to hide the belt clipping and make it look like a constructed tunnel or whatever. :D

[bronze trail]

servers down?

[leaden ether]

Posted image here. Both nodes say 3m they should be pretty much right next to each other but there is only one. #screenshots message

[white dawn]

What servers?

[storm ferry]

any atm known bug, that dismantle chest aint correctly spawned? O.o

[leaden ether]

I am using stable 1.1

[bronze trail]

me and my friends cant join lokal

something with error

[winter ruin]

That would be an issue with either steam/epic or wifi

[rapid cliff]

look like there is issue with multiplayer service

can't join any server neither loading session on multiplatform

[winter ruin]

Thats a wifi issue because im playing on a server right now

[white dawn]

Ah right, there's a map bug where one of the nodes isn't really visible; it's a bit under the ground

[rapid cliff]

maybe you were already connected ;)

[white dawn]

You can still place a miner on it though. Scan for limestone nearby and you'll see it

[rapid cliff]

try to log off and retry :kek

[leaden ether]

O.O So is't under the terrain? :D Funny. (Well not funy, I needed it :D)

[winter ruin]

After restarting my game I was able to connect and rejoin with no issue

[white dawn]

You can still attach a miner to it

[leaden ether]

(O.O)

[tame valve]

im trying to play the game with a friend, but we keep getting invalid_results (EOS_UnrecognizedResponse), anything i can do?

[barren tulip]

im having trouble importing blueprints, can someone help me

[worn edge]

do i make one big factory or one factory for each part/parts and make them go to my main tower or whatevr?

[white dawn]

Up to you. I basically always recommend "Independency," which is basically one factory for each resource. https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

Can build those individual factories at the same site, of course, or on different "floors" of the same factory buiilding, etc, where appropriate. It's more about the logical separation, IMO

But I like expanding all over the map, and building lots of smaller factories helps with that

If you invest in Mercer Sphere research for Depots, btw, there's eventually no real need to even gather material at any "centralized" location, though I admit that does take a not insignificant effort to find + then build out. (Though even before Depots, central storage was always technically optional)

Personally I still enjoy building Central Storage buildings, though, so I tend to collect stuff in one spot regardless.

[terse bison]

whats the best item to place in the sink?

[leaden ether]

Ballistic warp drive maybe? (Best meaning highest ticket return per item)

[white dawn]

!wikisearch awesome+sink

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=awesome+sink

[white dawn]

^ wiki has the full list of points

Though my advice is always just: sink everything. For everything you produce, slap a smart splitter in front of its storage, with overflow headed to the sink

Not worth trying to decide what to sink, just do it all. :)

[leaden ether]

Heh yup sweet 3mil points, too bad you can only make one or two/min at a time (before slooping)

[wise junco]

Howdy yall!

[hazy pebble]

On epic I keep getting the EOS_UnrecognizedReponse read the FAQ tried -NoMultiplayer and still gives me the same error

[late heart]

When can you unlock the steel rotor recipe?

[fathom shuttle]

I might kms at this point

The fucking junction just won’t work

[lament niche]

whenever once you have steel unlocked

[lost wagon]

there are 2 types of crude oil node?

[open pollen]

I think once you unlock steel

[fathom shuttle]

3

[lost wagon]

what's the difference?

[fluid sapphire]

think its basic steel production

[lament niche]

4, including wells

[fluid sapphire]

as it uses pipes

[late heart]

Ahh gotcha

[rough mountain]

yo i finally beat the game for first time after 212 hours

[fathom shuttle]

Normal= 300, double and divide by two for impure and pure nodes

[lament niche]

only?

[fathom shuttle]

And wells are half that

[rough mountain]

yeahh

[lament niche]

pure... and impure?

pure are double

[lost wagon]

but this one only say Crude Oil and is a crack on the ground gushing oil up

instead of the puddle (unless it's a mod doing it)

[rough mountain]

yo trish arrivederci banner

[open pollen]

That is an oil well

[shy mulch]

Well done 👌

[open pollen]

You need a resource well pressurizer for oil wells

[lament niche]

you aren't going to be able to open that up until T7 at the earliest

[fathom shuttle]

That’s a well

[lament niche]

Jason I see you typing in my DMs

[sullen gull]

Heh, according to the Uobject counter mod, I am currently at 1,735,266 out of 2,162,688 in my current save 🤣

Just happen to pop up due to the 75% warning threshold lol.

[mortal ginkgo]

bro what you doiing with so many objects

[sullen gull]

There is a lot built lol

[white dawn]

Yeah, most folks are unlikely to hit the default UObject limit, but it's not entirely uncommon among folks in this server. :D

[late heart]

Should I use an alt steel recipe or just the regular one

[white dawn]

If you want! Most folks are quite fond of Solid Steel, but the others have uses as well

Remember that alt recipes are just there to give you options while building. A lot of folks think that you can arrange them into "bad" and "good" piles (or, y'know, do tier lists and stuff) but those are always very subjective and you'll always find folks who disagree

In general they're just there so you can trade one resource for another, or trade some complexity for resource usage, or power for space, etc.

[fathom shuttle]

junctions are making me insane again

Why don’t this single rail segment itself… like WHY

[distant pulsar]

yes hello

[quiet gust]

most of the time i personally use solid steel, but every recipe has its place it all depends on whatever is best at the moment

i personally do not recomend the regular recipe though, unless you are short on space, solid steel is a complete upgrade

[frozen cloud]

yes
unless you want to intentionally gimp yourself or not beat the game

[distant pulsar]

if you would like more there is about 10 minutes of reading material about the philosophy of alternative rankings in #math-and-meta for your reading pleasure

[fathom shuttle]

Yea definitely, smelt the iron near the miner and transport it to the foundries. Little downside to the recipe by gives you 50% more steel

[quiet gust]

more like an hour lmao

[frozen cloud]

also isnt the first time greeny and me had this discussion

[quiet gust]

and saves overall power

[lament niche]

if it's point 0.1 meters height difference it breaks

[fathom shuttle]

Do overlapping foundations do that?

Please don’t tell me that

[fathom shuttle]

Yea so there this ever so slight difference in height of foundations

Nudging work fix it, it’s like 0.5m difference

[fathom shuttle]

How do I fix it

Like please bro tell me there is a fix 😭 💀

[quiet gust]

cry very hard ( i have no idea what ur alking about but it sounds miserable)

[lament niche]

you're going to hate me

[south kindle]

How to I change my object scanner from in world collectables like slugs to resource nodes?

[fathom shuttle]

I do

[quiet gust]

right click

[fathom shuttle]

I’m not gonna redo all that

[lament niche]

you literally have to destroy it all and rebuild it\

[quiet gust]

also reaource nodes arent scanned with the object scanner

[south kindle]

I can only select colelctibles. No nodes

okay that makes sense

[fathom shuttle]

I guess I’ll be enjoying my new sweet second railine

[quiet gust]

you cant hold down v

[lament niche]

dont use object scanner, press V

[quiet gust]

its a different thing entirely

[south kindle]

I wasn'ty holding it down long enough, oof.

[fathom shuttle]

Is there literally ZERO way around it?

[south kindle]

Well I pulled a stupid.

[fathom shuttle]

Can’t I just use a beam or something

[lament niche]

I literally had to deal with the same situation 3 months ago.

[south kindle]

ty yall

well shit, I am no where near coal

tempted to restart in the desert

[fathom shuttle]

Do I just set up a station where the load is transferred to a station on the track I want to merge into

[lament niche]

rocky desert is great

[lament niche]

nope

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll probably lose a bunch of throughput this way tho

[sly bloom]

Ts game is so good

[fathom shuttle]

Guess I have 2 bauxite trains now woohoo

[south kindle]

I'm even on peaceful and now I actually know what I'm doing

[fathom shuttle]

It took me 2 hours to build this train 💀

[lament niche]

until you've made a save called "I know somewhat what I'm doing" x to doubt

[fathom shuttle]

And even if I rebuild it there is like a 50% chance that it will be misaligned again

[viral tendon]

Well uranium fuel rod production is done, 1.2 per minute... yikes

[lament niche]

bro I had spent 100 hours building the train I had to redo 3 months ago

[fathom shuttle]

Was it a worldwide train network?

[lament niche]

nope. went from dune desert to rocky desert. Double Tracked.

[south kindle]

I do like my first world tho

I shall call my new world Oreakis

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll just connect the bauxite nodes and call it done for the night

All this work for 2 pure nodes

I prolly done need it too, id be making 6k/min aluminum

[south kindle]

Should I go Dune Desert or Rocky Desert?

[lament niche]

rocky

[viral tendon]

Do i go on hunt for 12 somersloops to make 2.4 urranium fuel rods/m instead of 1.2

[leaden turret]

🪨

[south kindle]

More I look more rocky makes sense.

[lament niche]

no, you build more nuclear plants

[south kindle]

Can move intot he dune later

[lament niche]

yes

[south kindle]

sea>void

[viral tendon]

I think i will just make my prudction larger after i power up my first nuclear power palntr

I can power 6 fucking powper plants

Holy fucking shit

[quiet gust]

(i have 100 teehee)

and i now pay for it bymey game craSHING EVERY 10 MINUTES

[white dawn]

Oh that's right, I'd forgotten about that forthcoming merch kickstarter

I wonder how expensive those things will be; they all look pretty awesome

Time will tell! 🕰️

[leaden turret]

expecting low 3 digits

[lament niche]

enough to pay Jason's salary for the last six months

[white dawn]

I was going to make a joke about how they actually made Jason front the money for it as part of his contract, so it's on him to make sure they all sell. But that doesn't make much sense given it's a Kickstarter. :D

(note how I cleverly made the joke anyway)

[fathom shuttle]

How many sink points would they be worth I wonder

[leaden turret]

merch agreement means they don't get a penny, iirc

[white dawn]

Yeah, there's also that. :D

[lament niche]

I mean they can't just keep putting off his paycheck forever, he's going to want a snack eventually

./s

[fathom shuttle]

Man I’m so mad

[white dawn]

Is the /s because we know that he's not allowed to have snacks?

[lament niche]

yes

[leaden turret]

hi so mad, i'm marv

[fathom shuttle]

Like bro I just sunk 2 hours into building this railine

[lament niche]

oh god

[lament niche]

bro you were in here ranting about it 20 mins ago. we know.

[fathom shuttle]

And it’s all to waste because the devs couldn’t accounts for decimal height differences..

[fathom shuttle]

I’m still mad

[eager tartan]

#screenshots message Which one?

[lament niche]

How do you think I feel about having to spend 300 hours on a 100 hour project because of the same thing???

[frozen cloud]

dont do trains then 🙃

[lament niche]

at least you only spent two hours on it, Bookie

[leaden turret]

whatchu mean?

[cobalt tinsel]

can somebody help me with trains?
I've built a one way train, that goes forth and back. but when i try to set autopilot it says that "next stop could not be reached"...
Both stations energized

[lament niche]

signal blocks don't read properly if rails are offset by 0.1M

[sullen gull]

Make sure a station is not backwards

[lament niche]

flip the train stations to point away from each other

[eager tartan]

#screenshots message Anyone any advice?

[lament niche]

FSSSSSR --------- RSSSSSF @cobalt tinsel

[cobalt tinsel]

will try to

[frozen cloud]

reroll

bolted is bait
iron wire is slow af

[leaden turret]

⬅️ ➡️

[lament niche]

get the bad ones out of the way first

[eager tartan]

Sending new one in screenshots

[frozen cloud]

inventory, always

alt recipes are nice but so is a bigger inventory

[fathom shuttle]

You should be even more mad

I’d be spamming the devs emails rn

[fathom shuttle]

Yea at some point you just want to take it out of the pool, that’s why I take the bad recipes

[lament niche]

or you know, being reasonable until someone gets unreasonably mad about a much smaller 2 hour project

[worn edge]

where would i send pics for questions

oh nvm

[white dawn]

Depends on the question; nearly every channel but this one allows screenshots. #1038092680493801533 is a great place for general questions though

[frozen cloud]

no dont do that
keeping it in the list also blocks it
and that way you can block 2

[white dawn]

Posting in #screenshots usually isn't great since folks have to go back-and-forth

So #1038092680493801533 (or #design-and-architecture or #math-and-meta, etc, depending on the question) is nearly always better for questions

[fathom shuttle]

I am psychotic so this doesn’t apply to me

[lament niche]

what if it's about your mother being a murloc and your father smelling of pokeberries

[lament niche]

You're literally causing it to me

[white dawn]

I'm scared by the image that might be required for such a question!

[cobalt tinsel]

It worked, but when it gets to the other station it wont go backwards to return base

same message tho, can't be reached

[leaden turret]

did you remember to flip the trains facing the direction of the arrows? autopilot doesn't go in reverse

[fathom shuttle]

Send a screenshot of the timetable

[lost wagon]

anyone with a good coal power plant blueprint to share? One that doesn't need 10000 items to build

[lament niche]

again, stations need to have front, middle, rear, rails, rear, middle, front

[leaden turret]

then there's the issue of ensuring the train stations themselves are facing the correct directions

[lament niche]

nerfed that link lol

[cobalt tinsel]

i'm not allowed to send links or images here

[lament niche]

#screenshots

[fathom shuttle]

#screenshots

[cobalt tinsel]

sent there

If i manualy go to my base it will go to where i'm, but not the other way'round

[lament niche]

are your stations pointing in opposite directions?

[fathom shuttle]

Idk what the language is ngl

[cobalt tinsel]

yes

[fathom shuttle]

Well that’s your problem right there lol

[lament niche]

wat

thats not his problem lmao

[fathom shuttle]

Stations need to face the same way, so a right hand drive train would have both station on the right facing forward

[lament niche]

he's literally doing a single rail bidirectional

[cobalt tinsel]

If you want i could show into a call

[lament niche]

that doesnt apply @fathom shuttle

[fathom shuttle]

It does tho

[lament niche]

As someone who's done them, it does not.

[cobalt tinsel]

But my train need to go backwards

[left totem]

Cats are better than dogs

just stating facts

[lament niche]

hop into a call with me plz

[fathom shuttle]

You need a second train on the other end of the loco

Facing opposite directions

[left totem]

u lonely ?

[left totem]

the two locos need to be facing different directions but iirc they need to be facing the direction they go in

[fathom shuttle]

Yea and each train needs its own timetable

Loco*

[fathom shuttle]

Look toward the direction a right hand drive train station is tell me where you’re looking at

For both stations

[left totem]

Locomotives

[lost wagon]

and name it pocoloco, that's important

[covert talon]

peak

[lament niche]

lol

Just helped him solve the problem exactly how I was saying to do it

[covert talon]

should I do one giant factory with everything leading to it or split them up at their respective nodes?

[white dawn]

Up to you! I generally always recommend separate factories for each resource. Build multiple factories at the same site if it makes sense, of course, but expand outwards when the local nodes become insufficient

[fathom shuttle]

#screenshots I just cooked

[white dawn]

Note that centralizing into one big "megafactory" tends to cause a lot more problems than it solves

[cobalt tinsel]

yes, solved, thank you lithidalia.

[lament niche]

however you want

[lament niche]

disagree

[fathom shuttle]

Do I need to set up signals for it?

[lament niche]

it depends on how you do the megafactory @apoc

[covert talon]

how early can i get reliable transportation between them? just moving between my coal generator and hub right now by foot is super annoying

[white dawn]

Given how many people I've seen complaining about issues which stem directly from centralizing into a megafactory, I'll disagree with the disagreeal. :D

[cobalt tinsel]

should is a strong word, I would say do what you have the most fun with.

[covert talon]

i know im just looking for opinions

[white dawn]

Ah, if you're just at coal then you're just entering the stage where you've got some reasonable logistics options

The Tractor is your first available option; vehicles have a definite learning curve, and some folks don't like 'em, but once you know how to work with them they're A+

Otherwise, at that stage, your other option is basically just really long belts. :)

[lament niche]

they usually are caused by poor planning and trying to jam everything into teeny footprint

[white dawn]

You can make long belts look good still, if you like, of course. :)

[lament niche]

hypertubes: exist

[white dawn]

Doesn't help with factory logistics though. :)

[covert talon]

for transferring me or materials?

[steel hollow]

does anyone else skip the phase once you get the materials to produce all the space parts?
because i wanna know if its just me being impatient with it

[white dawn]

Right, and new players asking that kind of question are not going to be good at planning. Building smaller independent factories tends to negate that handicap by quite a bit, IMO

[leaden ether]

Both! :D Sometimes at the same time

[lament niche]

Okay, but I was responding to your claim that tractors and belts are the only thing

[white dawn]

I'd meant for materials, but yes. :)

[white dawn]

I honestly hadn't considered Pioneer transport, was only thinking logistics. But yes, agreed. :)

[lament niche]

he wanted to know for transporting him.

[white dawn]

Ah, reading is hard, then. Sorry! 🍻

[lament niche]

mk2s are okay if you need to afk but also go somewhere far away

[white dawn]

But anyway, yeah, if you're just at the point of getting coal power up, expansion is, indeed, a bit more difficult

[covert talon]

what would you do?

[white dawn]

It's sort of difficult to not centralize up to that point; it's really only once you've got coal power running fully and have some more stuff unlocked that my expansion advice becomes a bit more realistic

Coal-powered generators tends to be most folks' first "remote" "factory" type things

[lament niche]

hypertubes for personal transport.

[covert talon]

i mean more what to focus on
right now i have these 2 factories:
https://gyazo.com/051d5718e71cf8fb0fc6ef483b3cff85
https://gyazo.com/fc392ce22638826fce662c4338f8e096
and 2 coal plants with 8 generators each

[white dawn]

1. Pick something you haven't yet automated
2. Automate it!
3. GOTO 1

and/or:

1. Go exploring for a bit!

[lament niche]

you forgot about the almighty balance whine

[covert talon]

which would you go for first: coal or sulfur?

[lament niche]

coal

[white dawn]

Yeah, coal power is typically what I rush to first. Though now that we have belt-fed biomass burners, I personally feel less pressure to rush too much during Phase 1

[covert talon]

i have 16 coal power generators set up with now

which is i think 1200 total power

the annoying part is i need coal for the ingots too so now i have to travel 800m for it

[white dawn]

Yeah, coal can sometimes be a bit far away from where you were

One little bit of encouragement to expand outwards and build factories where the nodes are convenient. :)

[sharp sentinel]

I setup so many drones it stopped generating names for them and just numbers them now.

[quiet gust]

41 drones, how far into the game are you

[sharp sentinel]

I have 1/4 of Phase 4 done.

The last drone station I placed was named Drone Station 24.

[quiet gust]

ah the good ole days. I'm at 213 drones

[dusty horizon]

any suggestions for a returning player that finished the game multiple times in Patch 6 or whatever it was in EA?

[white dawn]

I always enjoy when my drones start playing chicken with my trains

[quiet gust]

get mercer spheres

[white dawn]

(not that you need to get into the 100s of drones for that to happen, of course, but the busier your drone network, the more likely. :D)

Good thing those don't actually have mutual collision!

[quiet gust]

wym

[white dawn]

Heh, just that drone routes sometimes end up crossing paths with rails, and you can end up with near (or "actual") clipping between trains+drones. No actual collision, so nothing happens, but I enjoy seeing it. :)

[quiet gust]

i am a sadistic ground rail user, so this never happens to me

[cobalt tinsel]

I like this game because it gives you the objetive that is the Space Elevator quests.

[white dawn]

I don't tend to go too high but sometimes I've got some elevation changes I need to make, so it happens sometimes. I do generally leave a fair bit of room above the ground (on "pillar" supports) 'cause I like leaving the ground free for vehicles

[quiet gust]

do you make railroad spirals to get trains height

[spiral summit]

im having this horrible bug where mk1 pipes when connected to junctions or connectors, seem to transport absolutely no fluids between each other

ive never had this bug until now

[quiet gust]

delete all involved pipes and try again

[spiral summit]

ive already done that

[quiet gust]

restart the game

[dusty horizon]

I recently had the same issue (again), this time, I had to place pumps directly after the water extractors next to my coal plant

[sharp sentinel]

Whatever happened to the fellow who reminded everyone every forty-five minutes that he disabled the space elevator missions and had no actual goals in the game?

[quiet gust]

interesting

[cobalt tinsel]

Which recipe you guys prefer? Heavy Modular Frames with A) Screws or B) Concrete?

[quiet gust]

the rubber one if you can

[lament niche]

what about me who finished the game yet keeps playing?

[timber shoal]

why does the power grid keep breaking even though production is way above consumption?

[sharp sentinel]

Do you have the Golden Nut Statue?

[lament niche]

yes

two.

[sharp sentinel]

I mean, if you're having fun does it matter what you're doing? My thing is, there's a fine line between 'I finished it and kept playing from there.' and 'I finished it, and then started over without any aim.'

[lament niche]

do you have a cyberwagon and a golden factory cart yet?

[quiet gust]

Send a screenshot of ur power graph in screenshots

[late heart]

Alright so today I got my steel transported over, converted my factories, made it easy to add new materials to the second floor, and added 6 additional power plants

[sharp sentinel]

I have a cyberwagon.

[late heart]

Pretty productive I'd say

[lament niche]

but no golden factory carts?

[quiet gust]

The graph tells you why, you production and consumption ar eflucvtuating too much and it just so happened to be at a low amount of production at a high amount of consumption

you need to either expand ur grid or fix the power fluxuaation

[lament niche]

you're not...

nvm

[quiet gust]

if im wrong tell me

thats my guess

[sharp sentinel]

Not yet. I haven't finished the game.

[lament niche]

not what I was hinting a joke at

[quiet gust]

...

[lament niche]

just sink a cart bro

[lament niche]

yes I went there, earth obiwan

[quiet gust]

no i have no idea what ur saying

[cobalt tinsel]

I don't have it

[quiet gust]

i mean in general\

[cobalt tinsel]

Yea, my rubber is actually underused

[covert talon]

would there be any reason for me to get caterium yet?

i just got coal

[naive pendant]

MAM stuff I guess. You'll want it eventually for other things though.

[gloomy heart]

#screenshots message IS THE REASON i can't use blueprint for this because the top pops out?

[quiet gust]

Yes

[jaunty jewel]

t2 poles are nice ig

and ||smart splitters|| are a literal godsend through the whole game

[mortal ginkgo]

Guys a question if I may, can a Train have 2 types of Freights? Like one fluid and one solid?

[viral tendon]

So if i got 79 ineustrial containers will that take 20 days to fill them all up with nuclear waste with production rate of 60/m

[latent prawn]

yeah, no problem. just make sure your station platforms match the train

[viral tendon]

Are my calculations correct

[latent prawn]

ofc fluid trains need a little extra care, but there's no fundamental issue with mixing

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah, I will just have a train that is bringing some fluids and other materials for my hub so it doesn't need to work properly. train will be constantly going back and forth in a timer so

[latent prawn]

in past playthroughs, in large factories, i've had a single rail bus train that moves stuff instead of running a bajillion belts and pipes and had it work quite well

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah its my goal for oil-based products

I think it will be too many tractors other wise.

[latent prawn]

in my current game, i'm moving some oil to a coastline from the canyon, but i think mixing oil prod into other factories is often a mistake instead of just doing all the oil in one place and moving the resulting material

[viral tendon]

Whyd you even transport liquid or anything qith trains

Conveyors are right there

[latent prawn]

why i did so is that i needed a lot of water and it was early in game progression, so i couldn't use the canyon water wells, nor did i wish to run pipes down from the DD mesa

i'd done that pipe run before and it just sucks to build, lol

[viral tendon]

Buils everythijg near water??😭 😭

[latent prawn]

what part of 'canyon oil' was unclear?

[mortal ginkgo]

he is just trolling for the sake of trolling, ignore him

[viral tendon]

You re just dumbass with big ego

[mortal ginkgo]

there are 2 people type that you shouldn't interreact with, twitter users, and "why use trains bruh" people.

[viral tendon]

Syfm, if i didnt read something its not a troll

Get a smaller ego

[velvet drum]

for adaptive control units should i start from raw materials, or should i ship in computers from their own factory?

[viral tendon]

Lower it down

[viral tendon]

Id recommend doing a whole new factory for every item

[velvet drum]

Its gonna be a huge factory

[viral tendon]

Also what recipe needs oil and water together, fenuine question

[naive pendant]

Most of them?

[viral tendon]

Oh, acu

[jaunty jewel]

diluted fuel especially

[wicked nacelle]

I fixed my nitrogen supply and ... oof, I'm damn near exactly 100% power consumption. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1390834305445527582/image.png?ex=6869b2e2&is=68686162&hm=e77f0d20bad5b0911800d1f38c9ca01163acfe1be3fce52d1804509624983981&

[viral tendon]

Its needes temporary so you csn not build new factory

[viral tendon]

Well what?

[jaunty jewel]

diluted fuel...

one of the most important recipes in the game imo

[viral tendon]

Mind twll8g me the recipe

[wicked nacelle]

at least one of the two, for sure

[mortal ginkgo]

Why should he count every single recipe while you can look at them yourself?

[jaunty jewel]

sir i am telling you the name of the recipe

[mortal ginkgo]

Dilluted fuel is already given as an answer.

[peak wasp]

I bet the wii menu music would slap in the elevator

[mortal ginkgo]

Which is one of the strongest recipes.

[wicked nacelle]

dilluted fuel or dilluted packaged fuel - same result, different process

[jaunty jewel]

HOR + water -> fuel at a 3:8 crude:fuel ratio

[viral tendon]

Thank you

[wicked nacelle]

with appropriate other alts in place

[viral tendon]

Yikes

[jaunty jewel]

(just heavy oil residue alt)

[velvet drum]

I always have fun when i hop back on the game getting power going and building some factories, but once i start trying to do anything with manufacturers it gets so tedious. Where am i supposed to get so much materials for these more advanced recipies

[viral tendon]

It really gives a lot but takea oil near water

[jaunty jewel]

almost all oil is near water

[mortal ginkgo]

Everywhere. Get a big train line going I say.

[viral tendon]

Thats nice

[velvet drum]

I have no clue where to put it. Or where to bring stuff, and what to bring where

[viral tendon]

I lile how water is everywhere

[naive pendant]

@velvet drum Around the time you're using manufacturers you can use alts to reduce the amount of distinct raw item types required for a given production line. Or you need to use long distance transport tools.

[jaunty jewel]

diluted fuel also gives you access to (good) usage of the recycled plastic/rubber recipes which can be incredibly important

hello, i have betrayed cat

you have refinery seeds?

[velvet drum]

So should I be shipping in raw materials from around the map to my factory

[jaunty jewel]

i only have assembler seeds currently i need new ones

[velvet drum]

Maybe have a bunch of resource hubs around that collect all resources from the area, and then a train grabs it all and takes it back to a central distribution area?

[haughty flax]

Is there a preferred alternate recipe for screws? I have steel screws and casted screws to pick 1 now. Im still just on steel tech

[wicked nacelle]

"central distribution" is a huge noob trap

[naive pendant]

@velvet drum The game is very unconstrained at that point. You design your factory however you want. Probs want to make a post in #1038092680493801533 if you want more specific tips, discussion.

[jaunty jewel]

theres a lot of different ways to make screws

[eager quarry]

At current, I have a solid SINGLE node of aluminum being mined, but now I'm struggling with the water byproduct. How do I route that back into the refinery?

[wicked nacelle]

I have blueprint modules that self-supply screws from iron ingots. I use cast screws everywhere.

[viral tendon]

Steel screws are good

[mortal ginkgo]

Steel Screws are the way to go

[velvet drum]

Well thats the problem how do i know where I need to bring stuff

[wicked nacelle]

people get so wrapped up around screws when they're actually a huge nothingburger.

[naive pendant]

I did a lot of cast screws in my playthrough. Works fine.

[wicked nacelle]

You know by starting to build the next thing and seeing what it needs.

[mortal ginkgo]

they dont need to be completely removed, as some state.

[eager quarry]

I only have cast screws for feeding into the dimensional depot.

[magic vine]

bro i actually hate epic so much

[wicked nacelle]

@velvet drum for stuff that can be built with the common resource types that are over the whole map, you just build that stuff where you need it. You're not transferring frames, reinforced plate, rotors, stators, etc. You just make it where you need it.

[velvet drum]

I need plastic, steel, copper, iron, and concrete for adaptive control units. How am I supposed to get all that stuff to the factory. I have no more resources around

[wicked nacelle]

iron copper limestone and coal are basically everywhere. And if you need one other rarer resource, that's where you build the factory. Then when you get to things like heavy frames, crystal oscillators, etc, then you can move them with whatever - even drones will be fine

[eager quarry]

Trains, my goodman. Expand and exploit new outposts.

[wicked nacelle]

plastic and rubber are great for trains. Everything else you need is everywhere

just pick a spot and build it

[velvet drum]

So just find oil, make plastic, and ship that over to somewhere with copper and iron and make my factory there? Should I bring all resources in with one train, or have a separate train for each resource

[eager quarry]

Yes, indeed. You should train back the oil products to the rest of the factory.

[wicked nacelle]

yes. And I frequently have a train that carries both plastic and rubber. or one with a bunch of alluminum things (ingots/casings/alclad) but I usually have a train from each major source type (oil/bauxite/...)

[jaunty jewel]

cast screws pros:
takes 1 machine (easy to set up early game especially when power is a problem)
uses little space but each machine has lowest output

default screw pros:
can be made with steel rod alt recipe which makes it very efficient in terms of iron - 10 iron ingots and 10 coal to 240 screws
can also be made with aluminium
cons: default iron rod recipe to start out causes wasted power and space

steel screw pros:
highest output per machine
can be made with aluminium (1 alu ingot to 52 screws)
cons: early on requires steel which you may want to use elsewhere
early on is also less iron efficient than the previously mentioned steel rod -> screw recipe, 10 ingots + coal -> 195 screws (55 screw difference), however uses considerably less machines/power

i definitely missed things but this is most of what i can think of

no screws no problems

[mortal ginkgo]

UMMMH ATCHUAAALLLLLY

[eager quarry]

I use color coordination to keep the train lines organized. As for the one vs several, it would depend on your throughput. At current, I'm transporting 320 of each, and I only need a 1:2 train.

[jaunty jewel]

surely,,,

[wicked nacelle]

this is that meme. Big brain - screws are fine. bigger brain - screws are sooo hard biggest brain - screws don't matter it's just iron

[sullen gull]

Hah, so I guess there is some sort of UObject leak. Saved and restarted the game and back down to 528700, and it keep rising 🤔

[mortal ginkgo]

this started to happen other folks as well and they aren't even creating that much stuff

their crash report says uobject exceeded

[eager quarry]

Which is the best for material to product recipes.

[mortal ginkgo]

its ok to restart time to time

[jaunty jewel]

as much as i love it ive started to grow to the normal recipe again due to its simple numbers to remember (12 iron per plate iirc)

[sullen gull]

It's odd, because I havn't done anything yet and its just constantly rising. now at 529400 and going up ....

[wicked nacelle]

I use bolted iron plate because it's more space efficient for a blueprint

[mortal ginkgo]

game's garbage collection is heavily borked somewhere

[sullen gull]

Oh, it reset

[wicked nacelle]

doesn't matter at all that it's slightly less screw efficient because it doesn't change the number of constructors it needs

[jaunty jewel]

i dont play that much anymore tbh

i just like popping in every now and then

[wicked nacelle]

I need to move my 10 warp drive manufacturers so they look like the crowning achievement that they are.

[tranquil hemlock]

Does changing death settings to keep everything still allow achievements?

[wicked nacelle]

I like early game with a group of 4. but solo it's TOOOO much

[jaunty jewel]

only thing that affects it is advanced game settings

[wicked nacelle]

only advanced game settings or whatever does

[tranquil hemlock]

Wonderful. Thanks 🙂

[sullen gull]

@mortal ginkgo ... OK, so it goes up to ~529850 somthing and then resets back down to 528600 ish lol

[mortal ginkgo]

its probably not that borked, so probably some materials going around here and there. 😛

[sullen gull]

Though, tbf, not sure how accurate this mod is either, soooo

[jaunty jewel]

no thank you

.. and bite me

surprisingly enough i do not enjoy being bitten

no, i enjoy being alpha aquatic spittered

theyre still to this day one of the most majestic creatures from any game ive played

if not the most

[eager quarry]

So, should I add a power cable to my blueprint for Rails? I think it's a good idea, but I've also heard the rails are already electrified.

[wicked nacelle]

I super love that I found out how to speed up time -- lets me check for mistakes so much quicker. 20x speed shows trends so quickly

[velvet drum]

if i make a big plastic plant how do i split up trains taking it to various places? Like how do I make sure the right amount goes to the right factory?

[sullen gull]

As long as at least one station on the network is connected to the power grid

[jaunty jewel]

rails are already electrified yes, but you cant pull a power line from them, only stations

[wicked nacelle]

You don't. It's just a manifold. it balances itself

[jaunty jewel]

i didnt play pre 1.0

[velvet drum]

wym

[mortal ginkgo]

its the Train Stations that transfer power between each other. So if you want the rail BPs to give power around, power cables needed.

[eager quarry]

That becomes an amazing logistic networking problem.

[wicked nacelle]

if you send "too much" then it will fill up and then only the amount you actually use will be sent.

[wicked nacelle]

it's not at all - it's trivial. It solves itself

[velvet drum]

Like the train car will just be full all the time?

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah, once the far side fills up and the station doesn't empty except for say 100/m then the train will only actually drop off 100/m and then it will only pick up 100/m from the source

it can take 30m (or whatever) to reach the equilibrium, but as long as you're not sinking intermediary products, it will balance itself

so many bugs you never got the privilege of experiencing

/r/patientgamers

[jaunty jewel]

it wasnt even this

i just did not even hear about it until last november

[wicked nacelle]

@velvet drum that making sense?

[jaunty jewel]

satisfactory was my first factory game

[covert talon]

is there any reason to mass produce black powder?

[jaunty jewel]

only if you want explosives

[covert talon]

you dont really need a lot of explosives right?

[jaunty jewel]

nah you dont

[velvet drum]

Should I have my whole train system as one circle, or should i have like a spot where it breaks off the big loop to load and then turn around to get back on the main loop?

[covert talon]

i guess ill just leave it running for rifle ammo or something

[wicked nacelle]

trains should be a highway system where there is a rail for each direction and train stations are on "exit ramps" so other trains can go around them

if you do it right then you can add as many additional stations to your one rail system and cover the whole map and send any train between any stations anywhere

[velvet drum]

Nice. And should I be shipping raw materials around or should i smelt like copper into the ingots first?

[wicked nacelle]

any of the common resource types you never ship - you just use the local stuff

[covert talon]

how do i make these things? its not in any of the constructors or anything

[wicked nacelle]

plastic/rubber/aluminum are common things to ship by train since you need high throughput. I also ship packaged nitrogen gas and then the empties back.

[covert talon]

https://gyazo.com/1126597f10767754d3b63218371bd68f

[velvet drum]

I have a bunch of copper by this factory but I dont need all of it so what do i do with the rest

[covert talon]

encased industrial beams

[viral tendon]

I think you knida do

[clever sandal]

When 1.2

[viral tendon]

For boulders poison thingies

[wicked nacelle]

Just don't worry about it for now.

[viral tendon]

And for enemies

[wicked nacelle]

copper is the least useful resource in the game in terms of how much there is vs how much it's useful. With alt recipes you can build so much with just iron it's crazy.

[jaunty jewel]

i had this problem before, had like 2400 copper ingots exactly spare from my massive factory

turns out i had the exact stuff being produced for 2 (?) ||nuclear pasta|| per minute later on...
and there we go all the copper is now being used

that was one of my favourite things to happen

[wicked nacelle]

there's a spot with either 3 or 4 pure coppers and that's where I always end up doing my powdering and the numbers are so desnse that it ships easily on drones

[covert talon]

oh i need the milestone im dumb

to even make them

[gloomy heart]

Im not sure about you guys but hitting that 100% perfect efficiency on production really hits different

[covert talon]

do i lose progress on a milestone if i switch?

[wicked nacelle]

I wonder if someone has done the math on how much a stack of copper powder actually weighs.

[jaunty jewel]

i had an insanely vivid dream about a small steel factory in the dune desert

to the point i woke up and i was seeing it still....

: )

[covert talon]

what do you mean

[abstract heron]

who is this @unborn gyro person

[jaunty jewel]

you need some coupons for an achievement

[covert talon]

a lot?

i have no clue what that means

[jaunty jewel]

Cat

[jaunty jewel]

dont worry about it for now

[covert talon]

making coupons tgakes forever

im using sam and it still sucks

[abstract heron]

i am at atm 1010 coupons @unborn gyro

[jaunty jewel]

thats because sam is not good for coupons

[wicked nacelle]

to buy your FIRST golden nut. You can buy as many as you'd like

[abstract heron]

i have atm 16,674 hrs on record
Currently In-Game
Satisfactory

TOTAL

[wicked nacelle]

Here are some of my nuts https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1390844481594593432/image.png?ex=6869bc5d&is=68686add&hm=611576dfcc6b6bd866afb17b933db7559ddcd4556d32e9212e3ccb24b762bddb&

my first nut is preaching to my other ones

[lucid pagoda]

someone give me two colors and a background color (white,black, grey, those kinda things) for a heavy modular frame factory

[wicked nacelle]

pink and teal + purple

[lost wagon]

just don't finish the game and start a new save

[lucid pagoda]

i was real confused till i looked at the image

[abstract heron]

I am doing after 1.0 save a heavy modded save

[wicked nacelle]

🙂

[abstract heron]

@unborn gyro want 30C tmr or 32C

Reason why i call it my summer of Not playing

[lament niche]

5 Jasonbucks to first person who can guess what this diagram describes in satisfactory

#screenshots message

[lost wagon]

caffeine

crystal meth

[wicked nacelle]

it's mostly letting it run overnight.

I've also started using cheat engine to do 20x time speedup

game runs surprisingly well

[lament niche]

nope, not a drug of any kind

[jaunty jewel]

alu

[void belfry]

So I'm curious

Drones can I power them with biofuel

[wicked nacelle]

wiki lists all the fuel types and their speeds

[jaunty jewel]

depends what you mean by biofuel

packaged liquid? sure

[wicked nacelle]

and no, you cannot

[void belfry]

Yes the packaged biofuel

Wait wtf is the bullshit...they allow you to use every other fuel but packaged biofuel

[wicked nacelle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Drone#Fuel

[void belfry]

Like wtf

They even let you use uranium as one

[lost wagon]

isn't liquid biofuel better used for jetpack anyway

[jaunty jewel]

meh

[void belfry]

Who uses to jetpack end game

[jaunty jewel]

its good but by the time you get drones you likely have rocket maybe even ionised

[sullen gull]

Yes. LBF and Ionized are the two "best"

[jaunty jewel]

best for flying long distances

since it keeps your momentum

[void belfry]

...how does that work?

[lost wagon]

jetpack doesn't just go up

[void belfry]

Like I have been using the unlimited jetpack that just uses power

[jaunty jewel]

now try and use that whilst flying at the speed of sound from a hypertube

[sullen gull]

Hoverpack is nice if you just need to "hover" around a small area. Otherwise it's jetpack imo

[void belfry]

But yeah it seems entirely stupid you can't use liquid biofuel in drones... But you can use regular packaged fuel

And packaged fuel and biofuel are in the same tier of gameplay

[lament niche]

you can use fixonium if you wanted

[jaunty jewel]

hoverpack is nice for building, jetpack better for everything else

[sullen gull]

Can you though?

[ripe basin]

Good night guys, how's it going?

[lament niche]

yes. I use it to fuel my drones flying fixonium to their final nuke pps

[jaunty jewel]

possibly

[sullen gull]

Sure you're not using Plutonium? Last I recall, Ficsonium could not be used in drones (and cannot according to the wiki)

[lament niche]

I find it's wrong on a lot bout NPP stuff

[void belfry]

Why the fuck does this game have these weird fucking restrictions when it comes to fuel types being able to be used

[jaunty jewel]

they are so cool

[plucky plank]

will 60 radio control units per minute last me

[ripe basin]

I have 2,5

[lament niche]

u need 120

[lost wagon]

why the fuck my car can't use lighter fluid to run smh my head

[void belfry]

Like you will let every other packaged fuel type be used on drones besides packaged biofuel and you will let every other nuclear fuel type besides ficsits

[plucky plank]

any recommended recipes or spots to build it in?

[lament niche]

<@&387163995947270144>

[lament niche]

just where and how you want tbh

[plucky plank]

✌️

[void belfry]

Yeah but you can used packaged biofuel to power a truck, and it's on the same tier as regular fuel

[ripe basin]

I built it in my great tower of shame
It didnt went good

[void belfry]

It actually has no logical reason to be setup like that

[lament niche]

thats only the package lmao

[void belfry]

Like these are all fuel types but now we got some fuel type racism going on here lol...we like every other fuel types except those two :points at packaged biofuel and ficsit power rods:

[wicked nacelle]

you can't sink ficsonium fuel rods either

[lament niche]

"why does this five gallon jerry can work my car engine not at all versus this five gallon gasoline jerrycan"

[sullen gull]

@lament niche You are incorrect. You cannot use ficonium fuel rods as drone fuel. Only in wheeled vehicles.

[wicked nacelle]

the much bigger question for the drone is ... are they electric or combustion? and also they have jet engines and hover fan thingies... they're so confused

[void belfry]

They have the exact same fuel energy in fact 750

[lament niche]

🎶 CHEMISTRY, HOW DOES IT WORK 🎶

[wicked nacelle]

I do wish they'd give a significant boost to drone performance for using batteries. maybe half docking time or something

I don't understand why batteries are still in the game with the changes they made to them in 1.0

[lament niche]

you have a lot to learn about fuels

[lament niche]

because rule of cool

[wicked nacelle]

but they're not cool

[lament niche]

I disagree

[void belfry]

Like it might make a bit of sense if liquid biofuel was less energetic but it literally allows you to put them in trucks and shit

[lament niche]

you can put butane in a car, propane too. doesn't mean it will run.

[void belfry]

Mutters in liquid biofuel bitterness

[wicked nacelle]

many parts of the game are super haphazard like people weren't even talking when implementing similar things

[void belfry]

Liquid biofuel will have it's day

[wicked nacelle]

like drone ports vs train stations... no reason for them to act so differently

[sullen gull]

It does now., In jetpacks 🙂

[shy fog]

I continue to wonder when we will get our nuclear powered flying cars

[lament niche]

when the world stops turning

[void belfry]

Yeah that's also a good point why can't we use nuclear power for trucks...but we can use it for drones

[shy fog]

got any clue how fast we'd need the moon to orbit to do that?

[lost wagon]

I never paid attention, but this planet doesn't rain does it?

[void belfry]

Yes and basic fuel can be used in drones...fuel racism xD

[sullen gull]

They can

[void belfry]

Yes... Absolutely I have massive amounts of the stuff

[sullen gull]

You can use every fuel type, up to ficsonium in wheeled vehicles and only up to plutonium in drones

[void belfry]

I have 20 industrial fluid buffers filled with the stuff

[lament niche]

I'm going to leave before I try to do anything with this chemistry textbook that GoB is ignoring

[void belfry]

Turning animals and plants into fuel is just the based thing I do

Ficsit does not waste and the fact these trees and animals are not fuel is a waste

[sullen gull]

Try not to lump ALL of us in now please 😉

[void belfry]

I will turn all these alien plants and animals into fuel

[eager quarry]

Infinite Jetpack Fuel

Should I make a 1:2 Train or a 2:4 Train for the Bauxite?

[lament niche]

1:4

[eager quarry]

Just a 1:4? It has to go uphill (empty)

[sullen gull]

Make a train network to grab it all! 🙂

[jaunty jewel]

i dont think uphill matters until 5 freight cars? could be wrong

[eager quarry]

Precisely

[lament niche]

thats fine. 1:4 ratio is optimal

[eager quarry]

1:4 it is

[sullen gull]

Though I didn't, I just have a belt network through the sky out to the swamp 🤣

[void belfry]

I went crazy a while ago due to collecting the relics ficsit told me weren't harmful to my mind

[sullen gull]

I want to move so badly :(. I'd go back to Japan in a heartbeat.

[ripe basin]

What does 1:4 mean

[lament niche]

1 locomotive for every four cars

[jaunty jewel]

1 locomotive : 4 freight

[void belfry]

They told me to seek them out and I'd be fine

[sullen gull]

Whatever 12,300/min throughput is? (Can't math atm)

[lament niche]

I belt network baux out of swamp to DD, then train to RD

[lament niche]

confused shrieking

[void belfry]

Oh sweet bigger saves 🙂

Did this game ever come to console?

[lament niche]

nop

[sullen gull]

I decided to torture myself and build it all with mk4 belts first. Then upgraded mk5 one night.... now working on upgrading it all to mk6 🤣

[ripe basin]

I have a cat

[lament niche]

a wot

[void belfry]

Wait there is a mk6?

[ripe basin]

Yep

[void belfry]

Did this game ever come to GOG?

[sullen gull]

I was referring to the train/car ratio. not sure which would =12,300/min on a train network. Since that is how much baux is on the map

[sullen gull]

No thankfully

[void belfry]

what does 6 use?

[sullen gull]

Ficsit Trigons and Time Crystals

[void belfry]

How is that thankfully? Game ownership is important

[ripe basin]

Time crystals and ficsite trigons

[void belfry]

DRM free has always been a reason to buy a product a second time in my mind

[lament niche]

murlocs and Snutt's corpse :/

[lament niche]

consoles nowadays always have drm

[ripe basin]

What is a drm

[void belfry]

Because I own skyrim, oblivion, morrowind and all the fallout games twice because I bought them a second time

Wait so I can launch satisfactory without steam?

[sullen gull]

ELI5 ... Why is DRM "bad"? Is it not a method of protection intullectual property? And can't you play with no internet connection?

[lament niche]

maxeek and cats

[void belfry]

I need to try that

[lament niche]

wat about on epic

[ripe basin]

I must make some pasta

Nuh uh

[lament niche]

instructions unclear now banned from epic for "piracy" wat do

obvious /sarcasm goes here

[ripe basin]

I may be a Russian but I'm not a communist

[void belfry]

Well still I want to support the Devs a second time...so release on GOG so I can double purchase you bastards xD

[lament niche]

go buy it on epic then? lmao

[void belfry]

Nah never epic...can't stand them

Actually I will own this game for a third time

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-why-confused-jack-black-gif-8714598

[void belfry]

Because I bought it on steam twice... I have two steam accounts I use to play multiplayer games with a friend

[versed mirage]

should i automate smart plating and the 2 others for phase 2 space elevator or naur

[sullen gull]

merch

[void belfry]

Do they sell a lizard doggo plush?

[versed mirage]

should i build a whole seperate factory for it

[sullen gull]

lol. lizzarddoggo.com link not allowed?

[versed mirage]

like will i need smart plating in the next phases or

[sullen gull]

Can through merch. And I have with buying the game once 🙂

[ripe basin]

Yes you will

[versed mirage]

okay

[ripe basin]

You will need it for modular engines for the thermal propulsion rockets for the ballistic warp drives

[versed mirage]

should i reconstruct my entire reinforced iron plates farm to section it into smart plating and reinforced iron plates

[ripe basin]

Just build a new factory

[versed mirage]

where

theres like no good nodes near me

[ripe basin]

Scan for iron

[sullen gull]

I need to get another cup 😒

[versed mirage]

alr

[void belfry]

I would buy on GOG

[versed mirage]

should i connect it to my main base or should i just reconstruct like its built over 3 pure nodes of iron i think its worth it

[void belfry]

GOG is great

You know what else is great....liquid biofuel

[sullen gull]

😡 😤 🙄

[void belfry]

and everyone who doesn't like liquid biofuel I will TURN YOU INTO LIQUID BIOFUEL

[ripe basin]

Find me first

[sullen gull]

But, I already know ... You're There.

[ripe basin]

Nuh uh

[sullen gull]

Gatekeeping Sis imo

[shut trout]

Fatty @somber cedar

[void belfry]

yeah the doggos are useful as hell did you know you can use them to get rid of nuclear waste

[shut trout]

NOOOOOOOOOO

[ripe basin]

How

[shut trout]

So unfortunate

[sullen gull]

fair

I have to chuckle a bit when it takes 276/276 trigons/time crystals to ugrade a life 😏

[void belfry]

Put the waste in their inventory slot...launch them off the map

[sullen gull]

And I have four more lifts like that to upgrade still 😭

#screenshots message

[void belfry]

Wait wtf is ionized fuel...how is that ever useful

Like it uses power shards...how is that ever affordable

[sullen gull]

Longest lasting and good thrust in jetpack

It's the upgrade to LBF

And I guess you could burn it for power too.

[versed mirage]

which is faster bladerunners or tractor

[sullen gull]

That's wh.... ermm ... nm

[void belfry]

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

NOTHING CAN REPLACE MY BABY

[sullen gull]

Erm ... weren't you just saying LBF was crap not to long ago? 😏

[jaunty jewel]

i like polygons

im not going to say what i want to say, but it involves snapcube

and possibly a certain bat

[void belfry]

No I said it was crap they weren't included for drones and that it was fuel racism

[versed mirage]

alright

[gleaming oak]

They say half this year was a lot, Yet i scroll up and all they did was add a few things

[tranquil hemlock]

You can only get alternate recipes for things you've already unlocked, right?
And if so, if I were to scan a hard drive but not choose or reroll it, if I then unlocked the standard thing, and then I rerolled the hard drive, would the new unlocks be potentially available now?

[lavish sleet]

correct and correct

[tranquil hemlock]

Okie dokie, cheers 🙂

The one part I actually knew XD

Witchcraft!

[jaunty jewel]

i think its unlocking water that causes that

would make more sense since it unlocks water bas ed recipes

concrete too

[ripe basin]

I made some pasta

[quiet gust]

oh my god i reached the u object limit

HELP

[viral tendon]

I locked myself in a rock accidentally wow

[quiet gust]

most recent post in screenshots

if you zoom in at the top

I CANT CAUSE I KEEP CRASHING

i also have 9

I kno

i just dont know how to increase it