satisfactory

[south sinew]

oh crap.. just finished my nuclear pasta build and uh, each PA goes up to 15GW

even with power storage I can't handle a 75GW drain for those guys alone

[leaden ether]

Heh all the alien tech machiness are pretty power insane and many of them fluctuate making your power grapgh go nuts.

[south sinew]

yeah.. since I can't afford to feed them the copper anyway right now I decided to just cut the power shards, that should be enough to keep them going for now

[open pollen]

How bad are we talking? (Power consumption wise)

I’m almost to that point I’m just slow as molasses

[south sinew]

if you're not slooping/sharding them it's managable with a decent chunk of batteries

but if I recall the power demand can also change per recipe

but quite a few of them are like, up to 1GW per machine or so

[leaden ether]

Well like particle accelerators go from 250 MW minimum to 1500 max in a cycle over and over.

Quantum encoders are 0 to 2000 MW

[south sinew]

right now I'm relying on copper starvation to keep my power grid intact

[open pollen]

Ok I think my current power system can handle that. I can’t remember the number I’m producing but I still have like loads of wiggle room from my RF facility

[leaden ether]

Converters are seemingly tame at 100-400 MW but yeah, put 40 of them down for a diamond factory and yikes.

[south sinew]

so I think my strategy should be first, to expand the power grid to more like 100GW or so, then second, get some more Caterium coming in, then third, stop using Fused Quickwire, then fourth, expand copper production

[fathom shuttle]

There are 4 pure nodes in the swamp, you can use the pure ingot recipe for even more copper

[south sinew]

I'm on entirely the other side of the map from the swamp

which doesn't mean I won't make a giant train or something, but I can make more use of my local copper supplies (2 pure) with a miner mk3 and some more shards, I just need the mk6 belts

[fathom shuttle]

Go over there, set up 300 refineries, put down constructors to make the powder then ship the powder by train

[gusty lark]

For some reason my saves aren’t in my files?

[versed mirage]

are hybertubes the best form of transport?

[lime ermine]

If you make a cannon yes

[versed mirage]

is a cannon where you like speed up in circles then go one direction or

[south sinew]

a line is a lot easier to build and use

[lime ermine]

You build a circle with a bunch of entrances and power all of them, then somewhere in the circle add a branch that connects to your transport tube and power then all them jump in

[south sinew]

circle is quite fiddly and not as effective IME

[lime ermine]

I use circle cause it's easier to control your speed and it can be easily blueprinted

[south sinew]

the only speed I need to achieve is "yes"

[viral tendon]

Fym yes

[versed mirage]

o ya i just got mk2 miners so should i rebuild everything but with mk2s and mk3 conveyors or is it unnecessary

[true mulch]

no point in rebuilding something that works

[viral tendon]

Use them when you need them

[true mulch]

you can use higher mk miners and split the ore output

[versed mirage]

yeah thats what i was thinking but should i build with those from now on

im stacked on like every resource except stators and motors i havent automated those yet

[true mulch]

once you have their ingredients automated, sure

even if you don't use all their output, you save power by underclocking

[gusty lark]

What map do yall use

[versed mirage]

i have like 3 smelters underclocked for steel down to 40 i only produce 120 is that how i should be using it or is that bad

[atomic notch]

That what i normally do

[vestal mica]

m key

[atomic notch]

The map

I should bring my steel over eventually

Got like 900pm not even using it

💀

[gusty lark]

???

[vestal mica]

hilarious right. if you didn't know, it's all one map, the starting areas are just different parts of it

[atomic notch]

Too bad you cant start in the swamp😔

[vestal mica]

you can't land there, but you can just run there and start there if you really WANT TO

you know, if you enjoy pain

[atomic notch]

Quite the run when u got nothin

[vestal mica]

if you start in the dune desert, it wouldn't take long to get to the swamp

also wouldn't take long to die a few times

[atomic notch]

West coast is a great spot to start tbh. U got like everything you need right there

The jungle might suck a bit but eh

The only thing that sucks in this game is other people

[vestal mica]

yeah, i think rocky desert is good for the start. flat areas to build. relatively easy access to decent coal power spots, steel spots, easy to stumble across SAM if you want to find it organically and not look it up online.

once you're into like advanced steel and beyond you'll start being all over the map anyway, so where you started won't matter that much.

[atomic notch]

Or you could be like me and never leave the starting area

Except for the power stuff which has a few certain spots

[mortal ginkgo]

not crusading then

[vestal mica]

just shrimpy

[smoky forge]

or me who didnt even know that when choosing the expert spawn point, diffrent biomes actualy existing

[fathom shuttle]

Someone did a heatmap of all resources and the blue crater-rocky desert area is all you’ll ever need basically

[smoky forge]

i realised way to late that it all was just one map and not 4

[south sinew]

this game I went to west coast and that has plenty of everything

only kept building in blue crater because I already had a base there before moving

[atomic notch]

The train empire consolidates all the resources to one spot

[vestal mica]

depends on how big you're trying to be. if you just want to finish all the milestones/phases, then yeah, you barely need much at all if you got time

[atomic notch]

We getting a little shrimpy. No krill issues here

[foggy heart]

Hey guys, I'm wondering if there's an optimal starting method for the dune desert? Like how much reinforced plates / modular frames / etc can be produced. Optimal ratios like how much of my reinforced plates should go to my modular frame factory vs how much just to storage etc

[viral tendon]

#screenshots message That took some time

[south sinew]

Depends a lot on how you design your base and what you consider "optimal", but I'd broadly suggest to not send too many reinforced plates to storage, because mk2 belts are kinda bad for how much they cost.. better to just make more mk1 belts until you hit mk3 belts

[fathom shuttle]

You should focus on getting through the tiers and enjoying the game

The “optimal” amount of things you’ll need are impractical to achieve with early logistics and miners

[south plume]

guys I posted a screenshot in #screenshots with a question. Any idea on it?

[sinful carbon]

i just discovered the bolted iron plates + steel screws combination and god damn its insanely good

30 reinforced iron plates/min out of 270 iron and a tiny amount of steel

[neon kraken]

how do i get satisfactory + mod?

[leaden ether]

Download the Satisfactory Mod Manager program

[neon kraken]

i am on that

[leaden ether]

Were you asking about a specific mod called Satisfactory+ or something?

[neon kraken]

yeah i type it in the satisfacty mod manager and i don't see it

oh i got it i was typeying it wrong it is plus not +

[vestal mica]

it's in there but it's not publicly available for 1.1 yet

[leaden ether]

Okay yeah it's "plus" but also it shows as incompatible with 1.1 :(

[vestal mica]

if you join their patreon you can play an alpha version now

[neon kraken]

idc if it is not up to date i just want to play it

[vestal mica]

pay to test

[leaden ether]

It likely won't load or cause the game to grash while using it. You would have to hand downgrade to 1.0 for any succes I think.

I mean you can give it a try of course but.. :D

[vestal mica]

yeah, if you downgrade to 1.0, you can play an older public version

[neon kraken]

yep

[undone lichen]

Does Bacon Agaric regrow like the beryl nut and paleberry?

[viral tendon]

Bacon 🤤

[leaden ether]

I have instructions for downgrading on steam if you want them it's a bit of a chore as CS does not seem to want to allow easy downgrading threough the normal steam UI

[ocean iris]

where is the downgrade guide again?

[true compass]

What is it? 🙂

[viral tendon]

Storage blue print

[true compass]

Would you use that for 1 item or does it have the capacity for multiple items?

[viral tendon]

I'd use it for 1 item

[true compass]

Since I’m just a phase 2 noob, what item would you want that much stored up of? 😄

[leaden ether]

Obviously save your file save folder for any 1.1 work somewhere safe if you want to re up to 1.1 again...

[viral tendon]

I use it for items i need in bulk or items that are hard to craft

So i could get a shit load of them

[true compass]

Like concrete?

[viral tendon]

Nah i don't need it that much

Like one or 3 industrial containers is enough

Like very hard items, fused modular frames, turbo motors

Those ar ehard to make

[true compass]

Okay 👍:D thanks for answering

[undone lichen]

Does Bacon Agaric regrow like the beryl nut and paleberry?

[leaden ether]

99% sure it does not

[viral tendon]

So you can run out of bacon agaric

I'm on phase 4 rn and i haven't made a portable miner factory is that bad

[undone lichen]

Damn

[leaden ether]

Heh I played the entire game through and then after completeing the phases rebuilt everything with higher level miners and belts and better recipies without ever automating portable miners because I didn't know you could :D On my second playtrough now and added that to my "Construction Materials Factory" though.

[undone lichen]

Should i make a stator factory for preperation for tier 5-6 or is motor, modular frames, etc. Enough?

[gloomy heart]

is there a dismantle filter for blueprints?

[strong pasture]

yes

[undone lichen]

Press r

Should switch you to blueprint dismantle

[gloomy heart]

ty

[strong pasture]

nah, stators are only use in like 2 things, not that needed

[undone lichen]

Aight

[viral tendon]

Can you even make portable miner factory

[vestal mica]

"should" is subjective. i can say that stators aren't used for any building, so you don't really need a stockpile

[leaden ether]

Yeah :D surprisingly

[undone lichen]

Thx

[trim vine]

yes

[trim vine]

Alt recipes unlock the ability to automate portable miners and should be done ASAP and thrown into a dimensional depot

[vestal mica]

ASAP

[barren dove]

im I the onlyone missing the hitbox of a truckstop when placing it or is this a relative new feature to just guess and make you pissed off when you place its wrong?

[atomic notch]

Idk man i havent touched trucks since early access

Ill find out when i get factory carts shipping fuel cells

[viral tendon]

Oh come on

I got it once and skipped it

[trim vine]

It never seems like a good recipe

til you go to a new area and have to handcraft 20 portable miners

set it up once, and you never have to think about miners again

[viral tendon]

Wait

I didn't skip it, sweet

[atomic notch]

Spam like 20 mk3 miners

[trim vine]

And you literally need 1 assembler doing it, cause you just need the initial set up and thats it, takes like some pipe and something else and ez money

[viral tendon]

why

[trim vine]

cause thats 60 portable miners

[viral tendon]

So

[trim vine]

Handcrafting 60 portable miners sounds miserable

[viral tendon]

Yah i'm not doing that

I wil just find pure iron node and make a factory of portable miners

[atomic notch]

Prolly more than 20 if ur in the grasslands

[leaden ether]

Man I hate the aluminum loop. Built my 4th aluminum factory now and trying to completely recycle the water once again means purposely starving it to prevent hydro-lock. Getting any where near 100% throughput and it runs for 1 to 10 hours then locks up. I end up having to over provision the loop machines so I can run them at 90% efficiency to stop it. Or I guess just package and sink all the waste water or something. I even tried to set up an underflow merger type thing for adding fresh water but that didn't work, likely from having to use a pump to push the water up to it.

I'd love to see someones setup for running a sloppy alumina/electro aluminum scrap loop at or very near 100% while recycling the water. Specifically how you inject fresh water without it ever locking up.

[atomic notch]

It sucks dude ill usually just make concrete or smth

[trim vine]

you using valves?

[leaden ether]

So yeah, I have yet to make my concrete factory on this save. I'm definitely going to look into the possibility of making it close enough to pip away all my waste water I think. It'll be a massive repiping but probably worth it in the end.

[graceful drum]

I just use the fluid buffer+unpowered pump combo now and have no issues

[frail sleet]

There are relatively simple designs which have 100% efficiency on both machines and resource inputs, and which are impossible to water lock

[atomic notch]

I like to bc then i got a concrete belt if i need concrete i can just pull from there

[leaden ether]

I used a valve on the incoming fresh water previously which I used to tune it. But no on this new larger factory. I assume you mean on the fresh water input?

[atomic notch]

Gonna be makin wet concrete anyway might as well use wast water

[frail sleet]

you have a water extractor connected to waste water pipe?

[trim vine]

You should be limiting the fresh water input IF you are merging fresh and recycled water

Dont let these people scare you, valves are friendly and useful

[trim vine]

It IS doable, just requires a percise set up to make it work 😛

I do like keeping things seperate though

[leaden ether]

Heh I have a fresh water pipe merging from below into the waste water return pipe yes. I have been tuning the fresh water flow for best output and least likelihood of lockup. Previously I had tried using a valve for this but got no definitive conclusion as if that was any better.

[frail sleet]

It is doable, but it's more complex and more vulnerable to failure in niche circumstances so it's not really worth considering. For example if you trigger the bug which stalls your buildings when using a hoverpack on a grid that has a priority power switch, too much water will enter the system from the fresh side and it will progress towards a deadlock.

[trim vine]

-stares in horror at tripping a grid off 100 MW-

[frail sleet]

You do not need to do that. You can put all of the fresh water into a refinery rather than connecting it directly into the waste pipe, and then it can only flow into the waste pipe via the refinery running

[frail sleet]

There's a bug where flying between 2 power poles with the hoverpack will cause machines to stall for a second, which breaks the config that you described. It's been ingame for 9+ months

[trim vine]

-gasp-

First time I have heard of it, thats crazy work

[leaden ether]

So hook the fresh water into the refinery and then hook the wastewater pipe into the incoming fresh water pipe? (Basically reversing what it looks like now)

[green fiber]

Aluminum is kinda like the best introduction to system stability and unstable equilibrium

[atomic notch]

I was stupid and used the normal recipe for aluminum ingots so i had to get like 6 blenders processing dissolved silica

Still didnt have enought and had to put like 3 more assemblers makin silica

[trim vine]

What I did was have fresh water coming in from one side, and waste water coming in from the other, and a valve on the freshwater side limiting the amount in percisely to what it should be

[green fiber]

you hook the freshwater into alumina refineries and you hook the waste water into other alumina refineries

and you dont connect the fresh and wastewater at all

[trim vine]

However, for the first time trying to balance this, Aeryn and McGalleon are correct, you should seperate the systems

[frail sleet]

An example which is 100% efficient and which cannot deadlock https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558721941410807812/1378615147672637521/MJSlJ18.png?ex=68676ee8&is=68661d68&hm=81df70c7c8f9380d4f7416c50fca573c5017203b94601ae36e636a91ba4192f9&

The waste water refineries always consume >= the water which can enter waste pipe.

At no point is any water extractor connected to a pipe which handles any waste water.

Those numbers are tuned to consume 300 bauxite via sloppy/electrode, but you can design such a system for arbitrary scales, clock speeds and recipies.

[leaden turret]

design updated at the cost of a few gb of extra images 😅

[leaden ether]

Oh I see, I'll give that a try. I hope I can fit it into the space I already have...

[wicked nacelle]

the standard aluminum reciples are great for just self-using their own wastewater - it wants 900/m you pump in 600 (full pipe) and it makes 300 waste. It's such an easy recipe - and the 900 output scrap is nice to process neatly as well.

[atomic notch]

If i was at my computer id send my aluminum setup but im not sure if its even working correctly yet

[frail sleet]

1 more thing: Put bauxite/coke/coal into the refineries that are fed by waste first, and use smart splitter overflow into the one/s which are fed by fresh water. That prevents the fresh water refinery from filling the waste pipe while the waste refineries are disabled, if that happens for any reason (it shouldn't, but an extra security layer).

With this you should be able to e.g. arbitrarily throttle or delete resource input belts and it will continue operating as frequently as possible given the input. It will also recover gracefully if higher input is restored (relatively quickly, but not instantly)

[atomic notch]

Someone else made it so i might have to rework some stuff

[viral tendon]

Crazy how mk 3 miner on 162.5% overclock can power 26 smelters

On pure node

Turbo motors production was worth it

[wicked nacelle]

you should seriously start just using pure-recipes on all your nodes. smelters are so wasteful

[leaden ether]

Noted... This'll be an intersting rewire... At the moment I have three sloppy alumina feeding 4 electrode scrap for a solid 1200 output to a belt for each of the 8 mini factories. Which works great... till it doesn't :D

[viral tendon]

Why

[wicked nacelle]

because it gives you around double

[viral tendon]

I don't even have any pure

Recipes i mean

[wicked nacelle]

those are my first-tier of recipe. instant-takes

[viral tendon]

I don't have them

[wicked nacelle]

you should get them

[viral tendon]

I can't just get them

[atomic notch]

Pure recipes suck dude

[wicked nacelle]

anyhow, if you're building factories sized on smelting ore, you may be sad later when you realize they're drastically undersized

[viral tendon]

I like

[broken geode]

guys I just bought satisfactory is it a good game?

[atomic notch]

No

[wicked nacelle]

refund it now

[viral tendon]

Don't gaf

[broken geode]

...

[viral tendon]

If you have ton of free time

[smoky forge]

nah easy playthrough in like 2h

[viral tendon]

You won't soon

[atomic notch]

Define fun

[broken geode]

I have

[broken geode]

you sure?

[smoky forge]

then gl catching a break

[viral tendon]

Nice, you won't be having any when you playfor some time

[smoky forge]

no tf 😂

[broken geode]

oh no

[broken geode]

I was joking

[smoky forge]

same

[smoky forge]

yo hold on

[broken geode]

?

[smoky forge]

bss?

[broken geode]

huh

[smoky forge]

bee swarm simulator

[atomic notch]

Some people cant even beat the game

[smoky forge]

lmao

[broken geode]

what?

[smoky forge]

nothing

[broken geode]

oh yea we in bss server

[smoky forge]

i am not beating it on purpose, i wana build giant factories before that

[smoky forge]

ye thats what i meant

[broken geode]

yea it was like 1 year since I played that

[atomic notch]

If you struggle with basic cognitive function this isnt the game for you.

[viral tendon]

This game is one big struggle

[worn edge]

Greetings

[viral tendon]

hI

[worn edge]

Should i make a solo world or just wait for my friend every day

Like as a side world

[viral tendon]

If you don't want to wiat then do it

[leaden turret]

why not both dot gif

[atomic notch]

Make a fun world for the downtime

Fly around blow stuff up

[atomic notch]

I got a fun world its fun

[peak umbra]

they made satisfactory early game like crack

[viral tendon]

Yeah anbd when you complete phase 3 you're already addicted

[spiral summit]

lmao im doing a bunch of mam trees all at once and its pissing off ada

[viral tendon]

#screenshots message 25/m btw ✌️

[north gull]

gunuine question. in a 3x3 conveyer highway how tf do i split off the one in the middle 😭

[lost wagon]

Lift?

Would require some clipping

[rocky sierra]

omg im about to cry

why is my fuel not reaching the generators 😭

[green fiber]

give it some time. Fluids are slow

and make sure your pipes arent going up too high

refineries can only push fluids up 10 m

[outer pecan]

has anyone made a rocket fuel power plant that uses the compacted coal from the rocket fuel recipe and cycled it back to the turbofuel recipe to eventually not need to make compacted fuel seperately

[rocky sierra]

they are going a bit high so i plugged a mk2 pump on the line

but the pump refuses to pump

[fathom shuttle]

Use nitro rocket fuel and sink the compacted coal

[green fiber]

power it and make sure its not facing the wrong way

the striped ring is the output of the pump

[sour ledge]

... that screenshot messes with my head. I just assumed everyone exploded all the foliage nearby into oblivion when making a factory, but there you are with actual trees.

[green fiber]

and pumps can only pump if fluid manages to get into it in the first place

so dont put it up too high

[rocky sierra]

oh yeah that was the problem actually

[outer pecan]

i mean that just fully negates the idea

you still need coal and sulfur for the nitro rocket fuel recipe

the idea is to cycle back the compacted coal so you dont need to craft more

[green fiber]

the compacted is a minor percentage

and its a hastle to recycle it

[outer pecan]

i feel like it should be simple

[green fiber]

if you want numbers, the wiki has em

and its not simple because the ratio is 24/19 or something

(terrible number)

[outer pecan]

no its not

the rocket fuel recipe gives back the same amount of compacted coal

[sour ledge]

oh hey, that's a use case scenario for the new merger tho. priority merger that takes from recycled compacted coal before it uses new input

[outer pecan]

oh true

[green fiber]

that is what i was talking about

the ratio of compacted coal you get back from rocket fuel

Nitro is more annoying at that because you have to use both rocket fuel recipes if you wanna recycle

for which you simply consult the rocket fuel numbers on the wiki again

[sour ledge]

gonna assume you're using turbo heavy fuel ('cause why wouldn't you?)

30 compacted coal to produce 30 turbofuel. 60 turbofuel produces 100 rocket fuel and 10 compacted coal, so pumping that up it's 60 compacted coal to produce 100 rocket fuel+10 compacted coal.

So you're only managing to "get back" 1/6th the compacted coal you used making turbofuel.

[green fiber]

!wikisearch rocket+fuel

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=rocket+fuel

[sour ledge]

if you're using nitro then just dump the compacted coal yeah - you skip the turbofuel production entirely

[green fiber]

Example:
Target input rate of Compacted Coal: 25/min. 25 * 24 / 19 = 31.5789473.../min
This is the amount the Turbofuel Refinery needs to process in order to be run in a stable loop.
The Rocket Fuel Refinery will need to make 31.5789473 - 25 = 6.57894.../min Compacted Coal.

[sour ledge]

but if you're doing turbofuel -> rocket fuel then you're gonna end up only getting 1/6th the compacted coal back via recycling, and it can't self sustain

[sour ledge]

that assumes you're using the default turbofuel recipe, but yeah that can make it even more annoying

i'd think basically everyone using turbo fuel would be doing turbo heavy fuel though, yeah?

[fathom shuttle]

I guess you can do it, but should you is another question you should be asking lol. Turbofuel is bad vs rocket fuel when it comes to power

[green fiber]

turbo heavy section is on the wiki too

[outer pecan]

the nitro recipe does save you a bunch of machines needed

[green fiber]

unclear because many loathe turbo heavy for being "inefficient"

[sour ledge]

i'll admit its been several saves since i actually made turbo fuel

[gloomy heart]

How do you guys handle the phase 2 where i need steel beam and steel pipe to make stators + versitile framework without using trucks (i hate the fkn trucks)

[sour ledge]

i usually just wait until i can do nitro to bother

[trim vine]

Good luck cutie

If you want some assistance in setting up an early power grid, please feel free to reach out

[green fiber]

the fun part is i did indeed use a truck because im in the dune desert.
its a single one carrying all parts mixed together

[outer pecan]

I mean you can just make really long conveyor belts if you want

[sour ledge]

for phase 2 i usually manually feed because i hate trucks too - just to get the phase 2 parts built. Then in phase 3 i have trains, and set up proper automation for everything via train networks.

[gloomy heart]

oooh so for 1000 versitile u just manually walk it?

[green fiber]

make like a delivery boi and run

[sour ledge]

yeah i mean, you only need to backpack around 500 modular frames and 6000 steel beams

[fathom shuttle]

Make a steel factory and a modular frames factory and route some of the production to assemblers

[sour ledge]

its a lot, but if you've got factories for those you can make it in a trip or two and then you're done with the phase

[green fiber]

or just make the damn things at the steel factory

[fathom shuttle]

Also use sloops if you need them fast

[sour ledge]

yeah you can halve those numbers if you've unlocked slooping

you will still want a versatile framework factory somewhere so if you prefer to automate now go for it, but i prefer to wait on that for trains since it requires a lot of long belts or trucks unless you have a really convenient spot available nearby

[trim vine]

2 things:

1. Trucks are perfectly fine and work as intended, with alil set up, and I have seen other people set up wonderful truck set ups

2. I fucking hate trucks, build belt highways until you get trains

[gloomy heart]

Wrong and false

[fathom shuttle]

Make like 4k versatile frameworks

You’ll need it

[sour ledge]

all of the project parts feed into future project parts

[wicked nacelle]

Just find a nice place with coal near the iron?

[trim vine]

Also, you need smart plating, and every other elevator part, at each and every elevator phase

[trim vine]

and lastly, alt recipes are your friend for steel 🙂

[sour ledge]

why are you telling me i was the one who just told him a factory is worthwhile 'cause he'll need more later 😂

[fathom shuttle]

I was just adding to your reply 💀

[trim vine]

Whats wrong and false?

[fathom shuttle]

Is there an easy to make smart plating btw

I’ll need lots of rockets

[green fiber]

it'll always involve reinforced plates and stators rotors*

and the "easiest" way to make reinforced plates tbh is adhered

[sour ledge]

rotors, but yeah

[trim vine]

Using a splash of plastic takes it from 2 to 5

[wicked nacelle]

Factories for elevator parts are overrated. I remake a temp line each time I’m ready for it until the last one. And then only if I’m going to build towards a sink point goal.

[feral jay]

Personally I like stitched plates

Fewer materials I think

[trim vine]

You replace screws with wires

[green fiber]

stitched is simple but it does involve either using iron wire or copper / caterium

[sour ledge]

i hate stitched plates purely because of the weird numbers they produce and use

[green fiber]

make it in multiples of 8

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I think that’s what I’m gonna do, I’ll have a permanent factory for them to ultimately make a lot of ballistic warp drives

[wicked nacelle]

I have blueprints with iron in and reinforced plates out. Then I just tile that. I don’t care about the recipe because it’s irrelevant at that point

[fathom shuttle]

You can make a lot of rip from one iron node with stitched plates

I think I’m making 120 or something from 700 iron

[wicked nacelle]

You make the screws in the blueprint so who cares if it uses screws

[green fiber]

Adhered imo wins in terms of simplicity
3 iron plates plus one rubber as a bit of glue and you got yourself a reinforced plate

if you wanna involve oil

[fathom shuttle]

Yea true, use drones for the rubber

[green fiber]

if not you go with whatever other RIP alt you want

60/min rubber is enough for 60/min RIPs

[trim vine]

in the blueprint?

[harsh flicker]

my fav part of this game is building a line of machines and plugging them all in and turning it on without prior testing and everyhting just works

[fathom shuttle]

Speaking of rubber… I just realized I’ve never automated rubber, I just use the stash I built up when I was doing the power plant lol

[feral jay]

The rubber's the reason I rarely use adhered, it's much easier to set up a chain with just iron and copper

[trim vine]

Gonna tag you in something on a thread....

[green fiber]

i find rubber quite simple tbh

[trim vine]

make that 😄

[feral jay]

Rubber isn't hard, it's that it's more of a pain to get and move around

[trim vine]

Gonnna tag you next

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I was planning on making it from the resin my HOR refineries but I straight up forgot

[green fiber]

eeeeeh, if you are deep enough into the tiers and you wanna set up smart plating again, plastic smart plating wants oil anyway

so might as well just get rubber involved if you make plastic smart plating

[feral jay]

Oh sure, if the rubber is already on site, I use adhered often enough

[green fiber]

thats my point. I dont mean to involve it everytime

but out of convenience for things like this: why not get it involved

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah. I have a few. Usually 8 constructors and then 1-3 assemblers depending on what I’m making

[trim vine]

The problem isnt the BP, its how disgusting screws are, but I hear you

[wicked nacelle]

It’s just iron ingots in and I get the stuff I want out and never think about the screws because I never see them

[trim vine]

No steel beams?

[low musk]

hi, where can i post bugs from the game it's unmodded?

[viral tendon]

Ah i forgot to get some nobelisks, i will do hat soon

[feral jay]

Just walked two more doggos back to base, got four of them now

[lost wagon]

Someone in a video said load balance are better for compact designs, but I don't see how when manifold is just one belt with some splitters going to the side, you can even put the belts over the machines

[wicked nacelle]

They’re not

[feral jay]

Lovingly named "AlphaDoggo", "BetaDoggo", "DeltaDoggo", and "EchoDoggo"

[viral tendon]

Idk i kill them

[feral jay]

They've brought me a few turbomotors/circuit board/computers, which will help with a few unlocks. They get to live.

[viral tendon]

MIne died first 30 seconds because it fell off a cliff

I have production of everything you said so ion really need em

[feral jay]

Yeah their pathfinding regressed in 1.1 think

[wicked nacelle]

Hope it had a stack of plutonium waste 🙂

[feral jay]

They seem.. dumber now

[viral tendon]

I didn't even collect anything it just died

[green fiber]

perfectly stupid

[viral tendon]

I walked 200 meteres

And it's dead

[green fiber]

died of death

[wicked nacelle]

Can they have sloops? That would be the only reason I’d keep them
Around

[viral tendon]

Exactly

[green fiber]

no they dont find sloops or spheres

[viral tendon]

That would make no sense ngl

Sloops are limited and spheres too

[feral jay]

No, but they do bring you slugs from time to time

[wicked nacelle]

Then now that you can make power shards it’s silly

[viral tendon]

Mfs would just get 3000 doggos and farm sloops

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah. No reason to limit how other people play 🙂

[viral tendon]

This is just unfair cuz there's limited amount of sloops and spheres

[feral jay]

You can always "cheat" and edit more in with SCIM, it's easy enough

[viral tendon]

Is there a button that removes every destructable trees

[green fiber]

some gameplay systems have limits in vanilla and thats good and ok.
if you dont like em you can tear down all walls with mods and save editors anyway

[late heart]

Alright I got everything on my to do list done for today

Built the space elevator, went to the next tier, researched the stitched plating, hooked up fully automatic power

[wicked nacelle]

Absolutely. Just saying that rare sloop drops from dogs wouldn’t break the game. And if people wanted to spend hours and hours getting dogs to try to farm it then that’s just another time sink in an endless time sink 🙂

[bold hill]

is there a list anywhere for the rankings of the 1.1 alternate recipes?
right now i think i'm trying to remove screws from every recipe but I'm stuck between a few

[wicked nacelle]

The best recipe is the one you want to use. Just research your hard drives and let them sit without rerolling them until there is something you want.

[green fiber]

well, they never intended sloops to be endless else they would probably have added them to that pool or made a recipe for it.
Not everything in a production game has to be endlessly producable so you can infinitely scale everything.
Infinite sloops is indeed very broken because of augmenters

[bold hill]

im trying to think long game - are there more hard drives than alt. recipes?

[green fiber]

yes

[feral jay]

yes

[green fiber]

and you can also ||buy hard drives|| at some point too

[bold hill]

thanks guys

[wicked nacelle]

Don’t forget some research paths need hard drives too

[late heart]

Tomorrow I'll unlock steel rotors and reconfigure my factories to match, it's going to be so much nicer

[viral tendon]

Is your name david

[late heart]

No

[viral tendon]

Ok

[late heart]

Why?

[viral tendon]

Just asking

[late heart]

K

[wicked nacelle]

I actively seek out parts that can build from just iron. Rotors are great for not involving other raw materials that way. I wouldn’t move away from that I’d double down on it

[viral tendon]

Your pfp looks like sacred heart from isaac

[late heart]

That's cause Isaac took the sacred heart from Catholicism

[viral tendon]

Yeah the game is based on bible story

[wicked grove]

i can see how that makes sense, but it starts to get annoying later on when you use most of your nearby nodes

[late heart]

Yeah but screws are annoying

[feral jay]

Dammit they still haven't fixed the "can't pick stuff up off a resource well" bug

[viral tendon]

Fuck screws

But not steel screws, steel screws are good

[wicked nacelle]

Screws are only annoying if you let them be annoying

[tranquil lantern]

Anyone else experiencing a timeout "Creating Session"? Wondering if Epic Services are down for everyone or if I'm having network issues.

[wicked nacelle]

Your internet is completely down. You’re hallucinating this conversation.

[late heart]

Screws are annoying because of the sheet quantity things require of them

[tranquil lantern]

dang, I'm an LLM

[feral jay]

We do not exist, we are a figment of your imagination

[viral tendon]

All you need is steel screws

Steel screws top 3 recipes oat

[wicked nacelle]

Just make them at each machine that wants them. Then all you’re doing is using iron ingots

I’ve never once used steel screws

[iron patio]

how do i know what to choose between a loop or a push-pull train line?

[late heart]

That doesn't solve the conveyor belt transfer speed limit issue

[viral tendon]

Use multiple of them ig

[wicked nacelle]

That’s why you transfer iron ingots not screws

[wicked nacelle]

If it’s going to be anything more than a trivial setup you should always do a 2 rail highway system

[late heart]

Seems a lot more work than just switching recipes

[iron patio]

why is that?

by the way my line is going to be used to bring parts produced far away to a storage system

[wicked nacelle]

Because you can expand it as you see fit without retrofitting any existing rail

[trim vine]

Please, save yourself and this discord the trouble of trouble shooting with you later on

Build a 2 lane track

[wicked nacelle]

Also don’t have “storage systems”

[iron patio]

i will then lmao

so for a 2 lane, i have to use a loop at the end for my train to go back around yea?

[trim vine]

@sullen gull and many others can vouche, having done trains for a long time, you CAN make push/pull work, but its so much more complicated than a 2 lane track

[feral jay]

I used to build elaborate storage systems and on-demand drone delivery services, before the DD

Now, meh

[iron patio]

?

[wicked nacelle]

Think of it like a highway with off-ramps for your stations. Don’t put the stations on the highway itself

[wicked nacelle]

Storage systems do nothing for you now that we have dimensional storage

[trim vine]

Build a train station with a breakaway line to funnel into stations, with the exits getting back onto a single track exiting said train stations, no throughput on the main highway should have to go through a station

[trim vine]

And please, use ISC as buffers for loading and unloading at stations

[iron patio]

so like, i have my train lines going and on the sides i mut stations yea?

[iron patio]

i see

[wicked nacelle]

Yes. Have an off-ramp then a station then an on ramp.

And use signals. Block signals are all you need. Path signals are always optional and never required

[trim vine]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1370565264780955718

[iron patio]

well for my setup i dont really need it cos i wont be using this line for a factory but just to bring ressources back to base. im not sure i understand how they work tho

[trim vine]

I can get on a call and stream later to explain

[iron patio]

ive seen a lot of stuff saying i should have a path signal at the entrance of an intersection and a block at the exit

[iron patio]

sure, i havent started building anything so not for now but thank you for the help man

your post helps too, ill check it again when i get stuck lol

[trim vine]

Paths are 100% recommended and damn near required at junctions, but if you forgo junctions and use ramps, then blocks are all thats needed

[wicked nacelle]

Most junctions don’t have multiple trains waiting. They are not “damn near required” at all and trains are often dumb at path signals and slow down when they don’t have to

And for learning they confuse people more than anything else.

[trim vine]

At the start maybe, but I disagree entirely on later on.

For example, using trains to bring in bauxite to a factory, you will have multiple trains bringing in bauxite, paths prevent them from having to stop when it can

And once you get how blocks segment your track, knowing that paths are used in junction entrances make sense

[leaden ether]

Thanks for the tip and especially the image. Overall the piping is much simpler and after adjusting the ratios it's running perfectly. I did have one problem when upping your throughput by 220%. It kept locking up again and I thought maybe I had to readjust the ratios some but that didn't fix it. Turned out I needed to upgrade the water return pipe to Mk2 since I was suddenly exceeding the mk1 pipe flow -.-

[wicked nacelle]

You shouldn’t be having crossing paths at your stations. So paths do nothing

[trim vine]

I am only talking about paths at junctions, not stations

And I agree, you should have junctions at a station

[viral tendon]

You should ahve stations at junctions

[trim vine]

Why?

[viral tendon]

Idk

[trim vine]

Lovely response

[frail sleet]

nps 👍🏻

[loud leaf]

can i get rid of nuclear waste by putting it into trucks and driving off the edge of the map?

[trim vine]

Yes

[viral tendon]

Just unlock particle enrichment

[trim vine]

but it will still be in your world, and it will evently cause your game to lag like crazy

[loud leaf]

i just unlocked nuclear power

[viral tendon]

Don't do nuclear until you unlock patricle enrichment

So you can turn waste into sinkable things

[loud leaf]

what do i do with the waste when i unlock particle enrichment?

[fathom shuttle]

How do you know 😂

[fathom shuttle]

Recycle it into plutonium to make plutonium fuel rods, or store it indefinitely

[loud leaf]

dont plutonium rods make plutonium waste too?

also do power plants make more waste if theyre overclocked?

[fathom shuttle]

You can sink the plutonium fuel rods if you want, or burn them for power and store the waste, I recommend storing with waste since plutonium produces a lot less waste

[feral jay]

Plastic and rubber now automated

[fathom shuttle]

They do, but they also make more power to match the waste production. you’re not making anymore waste if you overclock

[loud leaf]

how much waste does a 250% power plant make

[fathom shuttle]

Depends on the fuel, look in the wiki

[feral jay]

But not the fandom wiki

[trim vine]

Don't question experience

-walks away-

[feral jay]

Username checks out

[trim vine]

I've never done it, but I have read about how a ton of vehicles off the map can cause problems

[feral jay]

The pathfinding never stops is the problem

[shy mulch]

I have some opinions about that

[wicked nacelle]

put the waste on YOU and hypertube cannon yourself off the world as fast as you can.

or give it to a dog and kill the dog

[fathom shuttle]

You don’t kill the doc

[velvet drum]

What do y'all use trains for? I still haven't figured out what I'd need to be shipping far enough for a train to be useful

[wicked grove]

if youre going for partical enrichment i recommend building a backup power plant solely for the enriching station

[fathom shuttle]

You shove it into a hypertube and launch it into space

[wicked nacelle]

nitrogen and aluminum and sam

[wicked grove]

oil from across the map for fuel gens

[fathom shuttle]

Plastic, rubber, aluminum, concrete, Caterium ingot etc

[loud ivy]

seems like the servers are restarting

[velvet drum]

That's actually really good idea. I hate piping oil across the map to my power plant

[wicked nacelle]

oh yeah, plastic and rubber, too

[wicked nacelle]

why didn't you build the power plant by the oil?

[velvet drum]

Yes.

Do you just have a train for one thing or have it make a route with several stops to drop stuff off and pick up something else?

[feral jay]

Typically I use trains for moving resources between biomes, and belts for moving resources within the same biome

[wicked nacelle]

shipping liquids sucks. they don't compress well when packaged and shipping actual liquid is crazy annoying

[wicked grove]

for me, i needed 15 nodes and only had 6 avaliable at the site

[wicked nacelle]

make a highway (2 tracks) and then you just add stations to it wherever you need them. You don['[t have to plan it all out ahead of time, you just expand it as you want

[velvet drum]

When I get to the point of trying to figure out what stuff I want to ship far away it gets too complicated and I end up dropping the game lol

[wicked nacelle]

Just make two? or three? It's not like it's simpler to have one as you have to tile them anyhow because of flow rates

[shy mulch]

Just try to deal with 1 thing at a time

[wicked nacelle]

drones drastically simplify shipping of low-volume items

[wicked grove]

2 or 3 what? power plants? that would be a very extensive project that would take me a lot longer that it did now

[wicked nacelle]

and high volume stuff you can generally make on site where you make the low volume stuff (except for palstic/rubber/aluminum)

[velvet drum]

I get stuck at more advanced components if I should start with raw materials or if I should make a big factory for intermediate components

[fathom shuttle]

How do you load balance the fuel going into nuclear reactors?

Idk how to balance decimals

[wicked grove]

also better to centralize everything for easy management so that i dont have to run across the map if plant 1 or 3 shuts down just to find the resin full

[wicked nacelle]

Everything that you can build with iron/coal/copper/limestone you should just build where you need it. not until you get to stuff that needs more specialized resources should you transport it

[fathom shuttle]

I make big factories for individual item categories, like electronics, cubes and motors

Just set a single floor for each

[velvet drum]

Like once I start doing manufacturers it's just a pain lol

It seems like it would be annoying to have a factory for like reenforced iron plates or something and have to ship those out to every I need them

But those are easy enough to make on site

This is where I get stuck lol

[trim vine]

Niche items such as SAM and Sulfur, maybe bauxite

[fathom shuttle]

Take a look at the HMF factory I did #screenshots message

[trim vine]

We don't transport liquids

[fathom shuttle]

I brought the resources I needed to where I needed them and processed all the parts into one

[trim vine]

We don't put liquids on trains

[hot rock]

Why?

[trim vine]

Massively inefficient

Packaged liquids, sure

But raw liquids, no

[wicked nacelle]

packaged liquids are exactly the same efficiency as shipping the liquid

[gloomy heart]

Don't listen, it's fine to do it if u want (:

[velvet drum]

Then do you like funnel everything from your factories to a central storage?

[frozen cloud]

isnt it the same

[wicked nacelle]

You get exactly the same throughput

[hot rock]

Well, I'll do it anyway

[wicked nacelle]

if you reuse the containers

[wicked grove]

i dont need to package it anyways because the throughput is even more than required anyways

[hot rock]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fathom shuttle]

Something I wanna do is a very long train that transports stuff across the map, might do it for the oil if I need to get it from the spiral coast lol

[trim vine]

No central storage with dimensional depots

[frozen cloud]

just make a long pipeline

[shy mulch]

throughput yes, but density no, one train car can carry 4x as much packaged liquid than liquid liquid

[trim vine]

That's a lie

[gloomy heart]

Round tank trains are cool :)

[fathom shuttle]

So id basically have 12 trains that drive 48 cars

[trim vine]

They are, and they work, but inefficient

[fathom shuttle]

I’m pretty sure that’s 100k m3 of oil

[gloomy heart]

Fasle and untrue

[fathom shuttle]

So no throughput issues for sure

[hot rock]

I just don't particularly care about being "efficient" as long as it's effective

[loud leaf]

is it normal that i have like 100 hours and i just finished phase 3

[velvet drum]

A what

[trim vine]

Efficient and effectively.... effectively mean the same thing

[gloomy heart]

and it's cool c:

[hot rock]

Not at all

[trim vine]

Have you been aggressively doing stuff in your mam?

[wicked grove]

i need 1800m3 per min rn and there is 1600m3 per 4 fluid cars. with a 2min 32 sec round trip time there is more than enough oil anywyas

[broken geode]

what do I do when the fuse box is blown?

[frozen cloud]

pray

[broken geode]

?

[gloomy heart]

uh no

[wicked nacelle]

reduce power use, increase power production, go to a power pole and flip it back on

[trim vine]

I think you mean functional

Yes, you can move raw liquids and it is function, but not effective or efficient

[frozen cloud]

it respawns creatures

[fathom shuttle]

It’s more that it’s just a waste of time, for oil you only need like 4 pipes and that’s easier to drag them across the map than building a train with a packager loop that does the same thing but takes longer to set up and might not be sufficient

[velvet drum]

Yes ma'am. What's a mam lol

[trim vine]

Again, a better world would be functional, does it work

[gloomy heart]

But they aren't the same?

[frozen cloud]

sure but thats true for belts too xD
by that logic you just never do trains

[loud ivy]

you know that packaging and unpackaging liquid has no benefit?

[trim vine]

Going to assume you are new

You have 3 priorities throughout this entire game

1. Power, isolated from other factories
2. Aggressive MAM and Hard Drive scanning
3. Whatever you want

[fathom shuttle]

It does tho

[loud ivy]

nope

[velvet drum]

Hard drives are such a pain

[loud ivy]

you need a car to brick back the canisters

[trim vine]

Not the same, sure, but in spirit, they are

[gloomy heart]

No.

[wicked nacelle]

I see a train car holding either 3200 (packaged water) or 1600 (water). So dividing packaged for return containers in half, it's identical. so are some fluids (not gases) more compressed? or have larger stacks?

[frozen cloud]

well dealing with liquids is also pain

[hot rock]

I don't really care enough to fully debate about semantics of the English language

[frozen cloud]

ye nitrogen stackx 4x more

[wicked nacelle]

that's a gas. I'm talking about liquids. That's why I was specific about saying liquids

[trim vine]

Hard drive suggestions

Construct a mam, put the hard drive in, and delete the mam, ez pz

You don't have to select a recipe, and if you leave them, they won't appear again

[loud ivy]

nope

[wicked nacelle]

Yes, shipping packaged gases is much more efficient per train car

[fathom shuttle]

Not true for belts as you aren’t running into issues of throughput, a train with 4 cars can handle 2400/min of items if the roundtrip is 5 minutes

[trim vine]

You don't have to, at the end of this convo, things are either efficient and effective, or functional

[hot rock]

Shure ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fathom shuttle]

And every train you build is basically an infrastructure investment for the future, because adding another train on an existing railway is infinitely easier than dragging another belt across the same distance

[frozen cloud]

how is that not the same with fluids?

[trim vine]

-sighs-

[fathom shuttle]

Fluid cars can only hold 1600m3 of fluid

You come up with like… 300-400/min of throughput in the end

[frozen cloud]

but you also need to bring back the canisters
so its 1600 canisters 1600 bottles
for a total of 3200 items

afaik its 879m³/min for full throughput

[fathom shuttle]

I’m assuming that you’ll not be using a packager loop, because that would add another layer of complexity to fluid trains which make it less attractive

[feral jay]

Yeah, but the train has to go back regardless

[hot rock]

Couldn't you just, have more than one car in your train?

[wicked nacelle]

if you don't then you need to produce them forever which adds a different complexity - and it's actually usually harder.

[frail sleet]

The amount of waste per rod or per energy is constant

3 good choices with nuclear:

• 1: make plutonium rods and sink them
• 2: make plutonium rods, burn them, and store waste (this is around 1/40'th of the amount of waste that uranium makes, per GW, so instead of needing 800 storage containers you need 20)
• 3: make ficsonium rods as they don't have waste (this is very expensive on SAM, aluminum and copper).

[frozen cloud]

1 car brings bottles
1 car returns canisters
its pretty simple

[wicked nacelle]

you could even have it make a second stop and fill the same car with empties if you were somehow space constrained

[frozen cloud]

the real reason it sucks is that packagers for some ungodly reason do 60/min so you need a metric shit ton of them

[fathom shuttle]

Yes but that takes up a lot more space, and you will be designing your train stations for 8 freight stations

[feral jay]

I do five freight cars usually

[hot rock]

The foundations and the sky are right there my friend

Sky trains

[swift valve]

1 train. All nodes. Somebody do it

[hot rock]

Sigh

[hot rock]

Are you saying deposit them all or just drive it to them?

[fathom shuttle]

That’s the problem of fluids, it’s just way easier to process fluids on site then ship the finished goods. It’s easier to bring sulfur and coal to an oil node than the other way around

[wicked nacelle]

I agree. The only thing I ship is nitrogen and I package it (because it's a gas) and send back the empties

[swift valve]

Yes

[fathom shuttle]

I thought most recipes consume the canisters too

[wicked nacelle]

It's much easier to conceptualize the rates when you can just look at an ISV and see if it's full or empty or whatever, too.

[wicked nacelle]

at least one alt does, but plenty just eat the gas. like nitric acid.

[nocturne orbit]

#screenshots message
why this is happpening?

[fathom shuttle]

Oh I was thinking about the heat fused modular frames

[hot rock]

I mean, I've had the idea of using trains to transport everything to a central point

[wicked grove]

did you use zoop?

[fathom shuttle]

I guess in blenders the tanks are just returned as is

[wicked nacelle]

yes that one does. I use that in one place I already ship aluminum to and then have a constructor(s?) that makes fresh ones about as fast as that recipe eats them. And then on the nitrogen source station I have overflow sunk so a train can always drop off all its empties

[frozen cloud]

its only turbomotors right?

[nocturne orbit]

probably? idk.
it was placed pre 1.0

[wicked grove]

huh, nteresting

[feral jay]

w00t, production amplificatiopn unlocked

[fathom shuttle]

Ah you just reminded me of how everything needs aluminum.. 600 ingots for RF tanks, 450 for FMF recipe, like at least 1500 for RCUs and I’m sure there is more in the future

[frozen cloud]

ficsite ingots

[wicked nacelle]

I just had to go back and ship in a bunch of silica and copper because I was tapped on alumina on the map. So I had to do a round of raw-resource efficiencizing. suddenly throwing a bunch of copper at casings made a lot of sense when it didn't at first. Even though the improvement is slight, it's still a lot when you're out 🙂 -- well I didn't ship in the copper.

[frozen cloud]

wait isnt it really good

[fathom shuttle]

Actually I’m way off the dot here

I’ll need 1500 ingot for the FMF

This is straight up criminal 💀

[wicked grove]

has the war i started ended yet?

[wicked nacelle]

that's part of a pure node. doesn't sound that bad to me

[frozen cloud]

20 copper to save 10 bauxite

[fathom shuttle]

Still stuck with mk5 belts + with the recipes I’m using it’s 1:1 bauxite:ingot

[wicked nacelle]

copper isn't that useful except for making powder.

[fathom shuttle]

Currently my max production is 2760

[wicked nacelle]

sorry I thought you meant iron. yeah, you're right

[frozen cloud]

wait so how did you manage to run out of bauxite
what were you making

[wicked nacelle]

I'm making 50 warp drives/m

(that's slooped, so 25 raw)

[frozen cloud]

im making 40/min

[wicked nacelle]

there are probably more alts I could apply to it

[frozen cloud]

ye 20 raw
but im only using 35% of bauxite

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll definitely need to expand production

[frozen cloud]

#screenshots message
40/min warp drives
i guess i used pretty efficient alu recipes? but still

[wicked nacelle]

All I see is that I make a lot and the trains come and suck it dry. I have 4 stations at my main aluminum plant because they couldn't fill fast enough.

[lost wagon]

how important are the decimals in the output from the Modeler and Satisfactory Tools, because both of them show kinda different numbers, like modeler has 113.15 and Tools has 113.148

same recipe and everything

[fathom shuttle]

Modeler rounds up

It doesn’t matter in the end since you’ll be rounding down anyway

[lost wagon]

ah, so as long I follow all the numbers from modeler it should be fine

[fathom shuttle]

Just follow the clock speeds

[lost wagon]

for overclocking and all that

[hexed dirge]

Ready for 2.2

[lost wagon]

I wish modeler showed more numbers in the overclocking thing, like Tools does

[peak umbra]

I cant load up the game without crashing. Any solutions?

[fathom shuttle]

Go to the machines section

[wicked nacelle]

post in https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1038092680493801533

[fathom shuttle]

Or just use logistics, it’s like the perfect mix up of the two for me

[lost wagon]

machine parts where

[fathom shuttle]

It shows you what machines and how many of them you’re using

It should display the clock speeds of each machine

[polar dock]

does anyone have a tier list for the alternate recipes. Cause i have bolted Reinforced Iron plate and the same but stiched.

[hexed dirge]

Sharky here

[fathom shuttle]

Don’t depend on tier lists

Just look at the alternates for what you’re trying to make and compare

[wicked nacelle]

There are no tiers. The best recipe is the one you want to use right now. If you don't want the recipes, just sit on it. Don't pick any of them.

also, not picking a recipe means you'll get different ones on the next hard drive -- it blocks out two that you don't want right now

[polar dock]

So basically if i don't choose one it cannot go back into the bag of items that it came out of and i can get other alternatives?

[fathom shuttle]

Yea

[wicked nacelle]

yes, you will never get an option on one hard drive for an option sitting on another hard drive in your unselected pool of researched drives

(that was really oddly phrased, sorry)

[polar dock]

TBH i actually understood it and it made a lot more sense than what i was thinking lol

[fathom shuttle]

And don’t worry about not getting any recipe, there are more hard drives than recipes

[shy mulch]

I feel like 90% of the things people are concerned about in this game are imagined problems that aren't actually problems. The game really tries its best to help you out. It's a puzzle, not a challenge. Stop assuming it's trying to screw you out of things, there's no way to "lose"

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, you deconstruct something you get 100% back

[polar dock]

TBH i cannot say anything about this cause i am the person your talking about lol

[wicked nacelle]

and resources nodes go forever

[agile pollen]

Has anyone also problems to create a session right now?

[wicked nacelle]

The worst thing you can do is like.. misplace your sloops

[wicked nacelle]

what service?

[agile pollen]

epic

[shy mulch]

Honestly, if you aren't sure if something is going to work or not, just try it and see. There's literally no permanent bad actions. Everything you do can be reversed or overcome in another way.

[wicked nacelle]

trying now... "creating session" and a spinner. yeah I'm not getting anywhere

[lost wagon]

this one looks good, once I figured out how the hell to use it lmao

[polar dock]

thats what i always think but then i start overthinking at the efficiency of my factory and always want to make it 100% efficiency

[agile pollen]

Are the multiplayer server from epic down?

[wicked nacelle]

they claim they aren't... but they do be lying https://status.epicgames.com/

[clever sandal]

Tractors headlights are useless

they dont work same as flashlights

[untold ember]

if you save blueprints and slap them into a new fresh save...can you build them right away or do you need to unlock the blueprinter first?

[wicked nacelle]

usually the problem is not having the parts yet for me by the time I have the parts I have a blueprint maker

[agile pollen]

They are there are a lot of people complaining about this problem right now

[clever sandal]

you replied to the wrong thing

why the hell does a tractor need blueprints

[wicked nacelle]

road?

[clever sandal]

ground is road

[agile pollen]

I think servers are working now. I just created a session successfully

[fathom shuttle]

One thing I really wish the game adds is bosses that we can fight, and more guns

[wicked nacelle]

that's probably a different game...

[fathom shuttle]

Right now it’s kind of pointless to make a weapons factory

[fathom shuttle]

It can be a simple add on,

[wicked nacelle]

I don't find that to be the case. I regularly pull stuff out of dimensional storage for nobes and ammo.

[covert talon]

is it better to just make the whole power plant at the water then just transfer the electricity

[plucky plank]

should i try and get sloppy alumina and pure aluminum ingots before making my first factory for aluminum

[wicked nacelle]

pure aluminum lets you use all your scrap without importing silica, so it's super useful. You can go end game without anything more than that easily.

but if you have really bad RNG you can just use base recipe and throw away all the scrap you don't have enough silica to process.

[plucky plank]

im shipping through enough resources for 240 aluminum alcad sheets per minute

is that valid for the whole game or will i need more

if so i wanna get it down now

[wicked nacelle]

LOOOOOOOOTTTTSSSSS MORE casings

casings are the screws of the mid-late game

[plucky plank]

how much of each should i go for

[wicked nacelle]

more. however much you're making... more 🙂

[lime ermine]

Lol I need like 1000/min for my huge nuclear power plant

[wicked nacelle]

I suggest just expanding as you find you need to. Too much planning means you never actually get anywhere, in my experience -- especially if its' your first or second playthrough

[plucky plank]

its my first but if say i have everything down

its just i wanna know if its worth getting those extra materials to make a bigger factory off the start

[wicked nacelle]

for lots of people planning gives them anxiety and then they stop playing. Make the machines to make the next parts you want and then just work backwards from that.

I suggest you be processing 4800 bauxite/m is a good plant for end game

[shell grove]

how do I keep the blueprint designer from loading a blueprint I select?
need it to not do that

[wicked nacelle]

half that would be a good start for now

[plucky plank]

uh

so thats alot

[leaden ether]

YwH I think I was doing under 2400/m and had a pretty decent end game on my last save. I am going for 4800 this time but that's pretty massive.

[wicked nacelle]

each 2alumina-1scrap refineries can process 600, so that's 4-8 of those triples.

[covert talon]

how much coal do i need for 8 generators?

[leaden ether]

In fact to complete the phases I was only doing about 1200 and THAT was overkill :)

[plucky plank]

60

[wicked nacelle]

if you can't do the math for that you're going to have a hard time

[covert talon]

blocked

[wicked nacelle]

f off

[covert talon]

blocked and reported

[wicked nacelle]

scary little man

[plucky plank]

jahson

[torn tartan]

Do you think they will ever make a phase 6 in the game lol

[plucky plank]

satisfactory is for big boys

this is not a playground

[covert talon]

apologies.

[wicked nacelle]

I think the game is pretty much done. Not sure how they'd make a next phase. Maybe they make an underwater re-do of the game or something but I double it would be an extension to this game

[covert talon]

is it not 15 per minute

[plucky plank]

i think im just gonna start with 240 a minute cos i already have that and thatl help me unlock tier 7 and 8 milestones then go from there

[plucky plank]

4 my mistake

[torn tartan]

perhaps - part of me wants to make big huge factorys like I just finshed 1100 auminum sheets per min and 2000 rubber and another part wants me to just finsh the phases lol

[wicked nacelle]

sure. Like I said, expand as you find you need it.

[covert talon]

is it not possible to do it with just one conveyer belt mk 2 then with splitters

like this
https://gyazo.com/d5b12feb7ae9d067d015868a140a1722

[plucky plank]

120 coal per minute from a miner you can put a small mk2 conveyer innto a splitter then use 2 mk1s to reach ur plant

[wicked nacelle]

seriously, dude. You will have to learn to do the math or you're going to be asking everything every time. How much does one need? How many do you have? multiply them. How much does a belt carry? divide by that.

[gloomy heart]

#math-and-meta

[covert talon]

thanks

[torn tartan]

What ?

[fathom shuttle]

I have a mk1 miner on an impure node how do I split into 16 smelters?

[covert talon]

anger issues + not knowing how to use discord just ignore it

[plucky plank]

must overclock all the smelters to 250% with maxed amplification

😛

[torn tartan]

I never talked about math wtf lol

[plucky plank]

i think he replied to the wrong thing

[torn tartan]

O right

[terse kindle]

Im trying to collect all the Lizard Doggos in the grass plains area at my factory. Do structures block their spawns? If so will cutting the power to them allow them to respawn without removing the structures? Is there a map somewhere with all their locations?

[bronze gull]

Can someone help me please, i have in my inventury many turbo rifle ammunition but i can't reload my gun with these ammunition, i can just reload simple ammunition but i don't have simple ammunition in my inventory

[fathom shuttle]

Hold R with the rifle equipped

[bronze gull]

omg thank you !

[wicked nacelle]

lots of menus pull up by holding the button down

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=lizard+doggo

[wicked nacelle]

I just learned you can hold down E to see menu options of related buildable types

[fathom shuttle]

Yea it’s pretty useful when doing pipework

[wicked nacelle]

I have pipe and junction hotkeyed

and after I put down one of each I just middle click

[terse kindle]

Im trying to collect all the Lizard Doggos in the grass plains area at my factory. Do structures block their spawns? If so will cutting the power to them allow them to respawn without removing the structures? Is there a map somewhere with all their locations?

[gloomy heart]

#1038092680493801533

[wicked nacelle]

scim shows it I think?

[terse kindle]

what is scim, sorry I'm new

[feral jay]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com

[covert talon]

are there any practical uses for trucks super early game

[fathom shuttle]

There is none

[gloomy heart]

No.

[wicked nacelle]

that link -=- you select your save game and it loads your actual world on top of the map

[fathom shuttle]

Calculator doesn’t show lizard doggo spawn locations

[wicked nacelle]

I thought it shows the actual dogs though

[fathom shuttle]

Does it show you the place of the dog is if you upload the save?

[wicked nacelle]

I thought it did but it's been a while. maybe someone else knows more

[terse kindle]

Im fine with running around to find them, but will I have to remove all my miners to allow them to spawn if they're blocked? Or can I just cut the power for a few days to allow them to respawn?

[fathom shuttle]

It just shows your tamed ones

[atomic notch]

Theres a cave with a bunch in it

[barren lily]

where da fuck am I suposed to build megabase

[atomic notch]

Anywhere

[gloomy heart]

out towards the ocean

[jolly kindle]

Dune Desert

[barren lily]

Im thinking about this place too

[wicked grove]

far to the west, across the sea

[barren lily]

That can be hard when golden coast is just huge rafinery with over 864 fuel gens behind

Dune desert is not a bad spot and i think I can make usage of all these resources there

[wicked nacelle]

it's fine you just end up in the swamp kinda early by default -- err, I mean if you don't know not to go there 🙂

[barren lily]

I just need some big ass factory that will produce allat

Just accual base, not something made in first 6h of gameplay

[jolly kindle]

Dune desert has a ton of resources for the first 3tiers. Except water which isnt as much of a pain with the new ability to connect blueprints together for piping.

[lime wadi]

returning player, is there a bug where some things are no longer rendering? the gas clouds, the smoke from coal factories and the flying bug things arent rendering, maybe more

[nocturne orbit]

what might need a blueprint of 40 constructors?

[jolly kindle]

copper sheets

[white dawn]

I foolishly used Iron Wire as part of my ADS buildout on my U8 save; I don't recall the specifics but I would not be surprised if my Iron Wire blueprints were something along those lines. :D

[barren lily]

Well im in 5 stage space elevator, now i need to produce more conplicated parts but i still find dune desert realy good for that especialy when having acces to things like trains

[white dawn]

(Though that would've just been with 4x4 blueprints, dunno if 40 would be crammable in there. But had I had bigger blueprinters then, I certainly would've used it. :D)

[jolly kindle]

I have a blueprint for stacking 8 constructors on top of eachother and connecting them together and usually have 32 contructors making copper sheets at endgame.

[wicked nacelle]

constructors making sheets? steamed sheets is where it's at

water in this game is silly good

pure copper ingot -> steamed sheets

[white dawn]

Heh, Pure Copper has plenty of haters. Some folks dislike endless refinery spam

(Weirdly, I tend to be totally okay with endless refinery spam but I dislike endless fuel gen spam. Go figure.)

[wicked nacelle]

My whole game play changed when I realized it didn’t matter how big buildings are. Stacking particle accelerators? Whatever.

Just means train stations don’t feel big anymore 🙂

[mortal ginkgo]

I got the feeling it might be boring after putting the 307853804570375403th refinery..

Not 307853804570375402th one, mind you.

[sinful bobcat]

I love refineries

[jolly kindle]

refineries take up so much space though

I can make just as many sheets in a 4x4x4 block of space with constructors as I can with 3 city blocks of space with refineries.

[viral tendon]

I wish i could just make drone find a resource in container and bring it to me

[mortal ginkgo]

We call that "multiple Dimensional Depots for one item".

[ivory condor]

I enjoy turning the game into a refinery simulator

[mortal ginkgo]

I am not fund of it. Like I dont like coal gens too.

[ivory condor]

Little do you know signs are so much worse for performance in 1.1 now

[half scaffold]

Haha nice. I had everything I needed for all Tier 7 upgrades as soon as I unlocked it 🙂
I had enough aluminium stuff fromcrash sites 🙂

[jolly kindle]

I was playing a game where I was trying to fit everything in the canyon in the north of the map. With everything feeding a central bus.

[jolly kindle]

I dont know why this is a reply

[ivory condor]

That's good grey concrete is the way

[ivory condor]

But all of the good recipes need refineries, so enjoy them

Pure recipes go brrrr

Literally turning water into ingots

Placing down more refineries is my dream

[tropic plover]

Does your power grip trip when your consumption or max consumption goes over your capacity?

[covert talon]

yes

[tropic plover]

That doesn't answer my question.
Or is it if either go over?

So if my capacity is 390.
My current consumption is 200 but my max consumption is 388.
If I add 4mw burden and take my consumption to 204 and max to 392 my grid fails?

[mild finch]

if everything runs at the same time, yes

no, they could have some idle machines, it won't necessarily trip

well, peaks won't necessarilly occur tho, but pay attention to not use everything at the same time

[tropic plover]

I am running well below my max consumption. Machines are not all running. Have 190 available that I'm jot using but you're all sayingnI need to make sure I have the capacity even though machines don't run?

My orange line is half my blue line

[wintry wharf]

https://imgur.com/a/32BPCPQ tf is this crap

how is it too steep

[latent prawn]

change to default build mode from 'straight', it allows tighter turns

also, yeah, rarely building from other endpoint can help, but always switch to default when you bang into the 'too tight' problem

[white dawn]

Yeah, straight mode gets picky sometimes

[tropic plover]

So, tried it out. You can take max consumption past capacity so long as actual consumption stays below capacity.

[wintry wharf]

i was going back through footage now
my friend tore everything down 30 minutes later cause it was apparently "atrocious"
but i was just curious
thanks guys

[latent prawn]

i wish they'd fix that, the number of times i need to toggle the mode is annoying

[tropic plover]

Got my coal plants up and running now by doing that

[mild finch]

pun intended?

spline?

[latent prawn]

splines are a mathematical term for a circluar arc that has ends tangent to two intersecting lines. a lot of curves in drawing programs as well as the belts and rails in SF are defined using the method

i think more generally, a spline is any curve approximated with a polynomial and some boundary conditions, but for the sake of this game, it's just an arc from a circle

[nocturne orbit]

I don't bake recipes into blueprints

[limber mulch]

Hi folks, I'm having trouble with a drone port. It won't seem to work with Packaged Fuel - it eats any I put in there, and still shows empty. Anyone know what might be going on?

[latent prawn]

often what i bp is small fragments of a factory so i can spam them, and it just makes sense to bake the recipe in

[latent prawn]

with yellow fuel especially, some trips take more than a full stack's worth

[limber mulch]

Thank you @latent prawn

[latent prawn]

my experience is that to bootstrap a port with yellow fuel, sometimes you need to dump in a few stacks and then it'll mellow out around 50 fuel/trip

the entire drone ui really reports the fuel stuff poorly, if not incorrectly

i'm trying to figure out if i've given myself enough of a break to come back to building in the game

[mild finch]

yes, don't make that mistake please

600 is a lie propagated by the fixit overlords to make you belive your performance is not satisfactory

hmmm

[leaden ether]

It's just really odd when you built 8 identical factories side by side and 7 of them behave (mostly) one way and the 8th does something completely different in a specific pipe section... -.-

One would think that on average they would al slosh the same amount with the exact same layout repeated. I even tore out all the piping for that section and replaced it and it still has severely restricted flow.

[white dawn]

I generally don't, either, but for bigger builds I might do so. Typically have a separate category for those

[haughty flax]

would something like this connect automatically or do i need a pipe between the water extractor and the junction? https://imgur.com/a/GjqBNpO

kk ty

[leaden ether]

Looks like as my factory gets tuned up and running smoother I started asking for slighly more oil than I had been pumping. The vagaries of which of the 4 way balanced split (and actually only ONE of the subsequent two way splits) got the shaft was just pure randomness. Boosted oil production and it went away :/

[cloud crown]

Only the mk1?

[wicked nacelle]

For the things I use blueprints for they save me a ton of time. Though without reversible belts they are a bit of a PITA. And you can’t mirror stuff. Even things without buildings

[lost wagon]

I like how the blueprint mod has a 1x1 blueprint designer, no idea what would you be even able to do with that but ok

I guess decorations but not sure who takes the time to decorate factories in the first 20 minutes of the game when you gonna dismantle all of it

[wicked nacelle]

I wish the BP designer was just you putting on VR glasses and putting you in a grid world -- not something you had to do in the actual world

it wouldn't have to have a build cost, it would pollute your inventory when you cleaned it up, etc

and maybe the tiers should be a part count or something. or a total raw material cost of the things

[lost wagon]

should've just went the DSP way, take the blueprint tool and select the machines you want to save a blueprint of

[wicked nacelle]

I didn't mean literally. It would just let you do it in a separate space instead of having to try to find some big flat space to put it down

[lost wagon]

they're talking about the pioneer putting a VR headset

[wicked nacelle]

yes

[lost wagon]

we can multi select for dismantle

can even filter it to not select things it shouldn't

can also add an "AoE" selection

don't need to click on every exact item

control the radius of the "AoE" with hotkeys

[wicked nacelle]

maybe we can get proper zooping in 1.2?

infinite zoop is purely better

you can use it like current zoop if you want.

[lost wagon]

if they won't fix "bugs", might as well add them as feature

like infinite lift height

[surreal ingot]

i wish they added a way to "unblock" a train track (if there isnt already, i havent played in a bit)

[feral jay]

Infinite zoop mod, otherwise no

[mild finch]

i think i broke the hard drive library

the search function, seems to work only on the first choice

nvm it's just caps sensitive

i've been reloading to rescan for that damn pure caterium ingot that was already in my library

nope, and it's not caps sensitive either, it just wasn't meant to be used with such a full library

seems to only search among those you can see without scrolling up or down

kinda dumb

[wicked nacelle]

if your'e going to save scum may as well just use SCIM - give yourself the recipe and delete a hard drive from your inv - save yourself some time 🙂

[mild finch]

it's kind of weird, just not meant for that much drives as well

[tacit maple]

what are som of the icons on my map yllow

[wicked nacelle]

bug since forever

[feral jay]

The library was horribly bugged at first if you had more than a screenful

[tacit maple]

ok, thats what i was thinking

[mild finch]

oh, that isn't great now

still buggy

i'm the kind of person to keep every drive i don't need there, to avoid pulling the trash recipes

[tacit maple]

why does my notes in the game keep disapearing and reapering when i load the save, is this a known bug?

[wicked nacelle]

never seen that, my notes have always worked.

[tacit maple]

werid

where do i put bugs for the game

[wicked nacelle]

qa site but honestly everything has been submitted probably 50 times by now

[tacit maple]

is it hereor on the website or smth

[wicked nacelle]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[mild finch]

eh, not a fan of that, scum would already be a bit to cheaty for me

[lost wagon]

this game has the same bullshit valheim has, doesn't matter the size of the tree, same amount of wood

[trim vine]

@molten berry looks good mate, seems perfectly sized #screenshots message

[wicked nacelle]

you define cheating for you but for me it's not different than reloading until you get it, it's just faster.

[mild finch]

well, reloading would also just be faster than searching for more drives

[feral jay]

Cheating is playing any way that is not my way.

[lost wagon]

or just install the mod that put Alt Recipes in the MAM

[molten berry]

Thank you 🙏 , took me quite some time to work it out then I found out about websites which could help me actually assist in the designing for peak efficiency and I kinda love it

[lost wagon]

pretty cool that mod, keeps the recipes all neatly in each tier

[wicked nacelle]

oh hahahahaha infinite zoop research actually requires batteries.

[trim vine]

the more you build the easier it gets, you'll be making mega factories in no time

[molten berry]

Honestly the plan, already thinking of the ways to design the exterior

[lost wagon]

Alt Recipe ones requires resouce too along with the Drive

[trim vine]

hows your power grid looking

[hollow hemlock]

dead

[trim vine]

alt recipe also give many resource

[lost wagon]

the research doesn't give you resource

[trim vine]

the getting of the drive does

[lost wagon]

that's for both with and without mod

[molten berry]

Have the 2 Bios on the back of the main base thingy, I need 3 for the full setup to function for just the iron which I'm okay with, I just need to keep my back 2 running for the materials I'm passively gathering otherwise I have the 3 basic materials around and ready for the best animation and significant stage of the game

[trim vine]

@wicked nacelle you gonna act brand new and tell me when you go get any hard drive, there isnt a ton of resources littered around the crash site?

plus the resources you now get (thanks 1.1) for dismantling the crash site

[wicked nacelle]

crash site yes. alt recipe no. that's what ocnfused me

[molten berry]

I can attest to this, there is a good chunk of materials around the crash site, 10/10 way to start some semi-automation while you get setup

[wicked nacelle]

you get resources for dismantling it? I didn't know that

[trim vine]

basic ones, but those can be a god send early on

One of the many amazing changes of 1.1

[wicked nacelle]

neat

[feral jay]

You don't get many resources of consequence, but the odd time, you'll get a few computers or something

[trim vine]

If you would like assistance in setting up an, almost, automated biomass/biofuel burner set up, please let me know

[wicked nacelle]

computers are good for some MAM research but some people go crazy about getting coupons from that stuff and I've never really cared

[feral jay]

It's more so that crash sites you've already plundered don't show up anymore

[molten berry]

ofc, you mind if I add friend you rq so I can remember lol, I'll forget by tomorrow

[trim vine]

Cause you have 3 priorities at all time

1. Power, Isolated from the rest of the factories
2. Aggressive MAM and Hard Drive collection/scanning
3. Whatever you want

[wicked nacelle]

I hate getting exccited and then ... oh

[trim vine]

shoot me a DM

[feral jay]

A single lone power pole on them can mark them as plundered

[wicked nacelle]

I used to cover them with foundations, but yeah

[molten berry]

3 for me is the space thingy (I'm a55 with names)

[leaden ether]

Ha, then there are those few that require something you don't even know how to make or obtain yet too -.-

[wicked nacelle]

for a while there were ones that ahd stuff you couldnt' get outisde seasonal events... that was BS

[leaden ether]

Eeep!

[feral jay]

This worked out to be a nice starting plastic/rubber/packaged fuel setup #screenshots message

[wicked nacelle]

quantum computer or whatever.

[feral jay]

With my first couple of fuel generators burning the ectra fuel

[undone yarrow]

The Quantum Computer and Super Position Oscillator, though both hard drives were excess, so more just a "Getting all alts is slightly easier during Ficmas"

[lost wagon]

what's the good place with space and all to make a big coal powerplants

[undone yarrow]

Not bad if you're not wanting to deal with water at all~

Ready for the fun of adding in alts to really maximize your yields?

[feral jay]

Heh I'll get there, still doing the phase 3 unlocks

Soon enough, everything will be a blender or a refinery

[undone yarrow]

Honestly, unless you're doing a challenge run, just wherever the coal is as long as water is nearby, the the Blue Crater Lake in the SW corner of the map is popular as almsot every resource in the game is nearby

[lost wagon]

it's more about not having to worry about space for expanding

[feral jay]

God damn hatchers can get you if you're not prepared

[undone yarrow]

they can, but as long as youre holding crouch, they wont notice you til you attack (this includes even while airborne)

[feral jay]

lol if I was prepared, I'd have been holding crouch

[undone yarrow]

I'd say the size of the lake will be your limiting factor, I've done Dune Desert twice which has a pure and normal node right next to the eastern ocean so perfect spot to make the starter plant and easy to expand by just keep building right

Since you can over clock the generators to save space at no other cost, but over clocking the water eats into your power margins something fierce

[wicked nacelle]

Overclocking doesn’t eat that much power anymore. It used to be crazy like sloops. But now it’s close enough to linear to not matter

[undone yarrow]

1 water is worth 1 2/3 MWs. Base speed you get 6 water per MW vs 4.5 at max OC if I remember the power cost right.

[wicked nacelle]

The old numbers made no sense since building buildings is essentially free. It was just a punishment.

[feral jay]

Dammit, how often do ya'all think "GOT 'EM!", just to see the rebar gun reload instead of fire...

[undone yarrow]

Which is why I'm of the stance over and underclocking crafters should be linear since its just a time and pc spec check (unless Slooped, in which case use the curve)

but Water Extractors are were I'm unsure as it's so heavily influenced by location

[wicked nacelle]

The whole liquid setup is punishing for water. It’s so powerful and yet so PITA to run. Autoconnect helps though

[remote lake]

@leaden ether absolutely love your aluminum factory in #screenshots, I'm wondering - what do you do with the excess water from the aluminum scrap production?

[feral jay]

What excess water?

(jk if I have any, I throw in some limestone and sink it as wet concrete)

Or throw in some coal and burn it

[undone yarrow]

That blueprints break extractors makes me cry so much (you cant place an extractor in a blueprint if the bounding box of a blueprint intersects the surface of the water unless 1.1 changed that)

[undone yarrow]

5 bucks says its self recycled

[haughty flax]

does anyone have tips on how to find the center of things such as foundations? I'm trying to setup 2 lines of pipe and want them centered here https://imgur.com/a/eszl9N0