satisfactory

[late heart]

More space than a belt

In one direction sure, but a long feed belt, such as for iron, has plenty of space to run in that direction

[undone yarrow]

Never craft screws ever

jokingly... maybe...

[late heart]

Yeah I'm moving towards that

Right now I am because I need to get to the tier to eliminate them

But soon I'll get rid of them

[undone yarrow]

Other than tier 0, you can always get the alts to skip them tmk, but I'm fact checking myself

ah, rotors RIP

[late heart]

Tomorrow I'll be getting rid of them for half of what I'm using them for (reinforced iron plates, using stitched instead), then finishing off my first space elevator tier

[undone yarrow]

yay!

[late heart]

Yeah. Took me longer this time but I'm doing things right

I'm definitely going to redo my factory after I unlock coal though so I don't have to fuck with biofuel

Instead of redoing it for the stitched iron plates first, I'll just unlock the recipe tomorrow

[hexed dirge]

Can drones carry liquids?

[undone yarrow]

Packaged only

[hexed dirge]

Bruh

[dense violet]

just bring the empties back on the same drone

[hexed dirge]

It can't carry water tanks?

[dense violet]

'water tanks' is not an ingame object

the only vehicle that can carry unpackaged liquid is the train as it has a tanker car

but it's extremely simple to package liquid for drones

[fiery garden]

drones and drone ports do 2-way transport, so you can have different items in each direction: packaged fluid one way, empty containers the other way

[serene hull]

what button was it for the calculator?

[feral jay]

N

[serene hull]

thank you

[feral jay]

Never noticed empty mercer sphere cages before... #screenshots message

[hollow holly]

Are you playing multiplayer? Because yesterday my friend took a mercer sphere but for me the cage didnt break and remained there

[atomic notch]

No the one in that spot is up on the rock

U can see it peeking

[feral jay]

Not multiplayer, I think it's just visual decoration

Just never noticed one of those before

So of course I felt compelled to comment about it on Discord

[indigo halo]

#screenshots message

It’s not spent, just moved a little

[feral jay]

No no, I got that sphere

I just never noticed that particular decoration before

ohhhh I get it now, that sphere didn't have a cage around it

That was the cage

neat

Anyone else seeing crash sites still rendered far away, even though you've dismantled them?

Kinda annoying when the whole point of craqsh site dismantlig was so that wouldn't be an issue

[leaden ether]

Yeah, also Sloops!!! :D

[feral jay]

Yep, it's reported, upvote here: https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/68017a186b7c573196367a59

[subtle nexus]

Satisfactory console edition

[boreal laurel]

Can you explain why?

[feral jay]

You generally need too many screws to fit on a belt

Belts saturate too quickly with screws (and quickwire for that matter)

[boreal laurel]

That is a thing I've experienced yeah lol. I'm really hoping for the steel screw formula so I don't have to build separate iron bar production just for my screws

[feral jay]

So like instead of 50 screw constructors feeding a belt that then feeds 10 heavy plate assemblers, do it in groups so 5 screws constructors feed 1 plate assembler

(or whatever the ratio works out to, I can't recall)

It makes screws a lot easier

[fallen storm]

From my expirience i know that alt recipies are good but try using non screw recipies to not screw yourself

[undone yarrow]

since they got rid of the computer ones, outside pure speed (bolted frames/plates for instance) the non screw recipes are almost always better per everything or at least on par

[tranquil hemlock]

Whelp. Up to the point I've been half looking forward to, and half dreading; figuring out train logistics

[dense violet]

if you keep it simple it's very simple.

like most anything in this game it's really only as hard as you make it

[tranquil hemlock]

XD You're talking to a professional overthinker 😂

[dense violet]

have 2 way rail, stations off to the side, and trains only going Point A to Point B, and you're on easy street 😛

[ivory condor]

well if you want to make trains had, try to run bi-directional trains on the same track

[tranquil hemlock]

Each carriage can hold a seperate item, right?

[boreal laurel]

Don't have any alt recipes that escape the screw menace just yet

[dense violet]

they can hold multiple item types

[tranquil hemlock]

Right

[dense violet]

you just need a sorter and sink after the initial buffer

[hexed dirge]

It's part of the trains

[dense violet]

it is not it's own definable object that can be carried around. in any case do you understand, yes or no, how fluids work with drones now?

[hexed dirge]

Drones are more cost effective 🤑

[dense violet]

they burn a fair bit of fuel, not sure what you mean by 'cost effective'

[south kindle]

starting to think making buildings for literally every resource type would look the nicest, be comfortably modular, and make optimization easier

Like every single node get's a smelting center to distribute to processing and assembly centers

I need to unlock more shit though

Wonder if anyone's made a MAM templete

[wicked nacelle]

think in terms of what you want not what you start with

and then work backwards from that

[south kindle]

I want a world I can play games in but that i ahd to work for

[feral jay]

Then this is the game for you

[south kindle]

like race tracks

pachinko

[feral jay]

ohhh

Well you can build race tracks in this game

[south kindle]

there's a lot more I can do too tho

making my own skyscraper to dwarf the burj is on my list

only 186 stories

[tranquil hemlock]

Guess who forgot that packaging fuels requires making empty canisters?

[wicked nacelle]

oh, I just learned about "cheat engine" -- can speed up time with just a couple clicks.

[wicked nacelle]

Joe. Joe mama 🙂

[feral jay]

THIS BLEEDING TEMPLE PLAYS A RESONANCE SONG. PLAY FOR US.

[wicked nacelle]

deez. Deez nutz

[south kindle]

I now wonder

[reef swift]

Hello everyone I just joined 👋

[south kindle]

why haven't architects irl just surrounded a mountain with building to make the largest functional building/ skyscraper

[wicked nacelle]

because we dont' have automation that makes that affordable.

we don't have robot-building robots yet. We will. And then it will grow exponentially and not stop at a mountain

also it won't give a fuck about humans

so maybe don't be so sad that we don't have it yet.

[south kindle]

there's a scifi you remind me of

forgot it's name but it featured a room the size of jupiter

and bots that would never stop building

very liminal

[feral jay]

That's a planet, it just might happen to be orbitin another planet.

[wicked nacelle]

Once we have something that grows exponentially it will be rampant immediately and not on a scale we can comprehend.

[south kindle]

Definetly no. Like the bots mined jupiter empty and left a gap in their solar system size building

and this was on a floor of it

endless building

[feral jay]

ohhh, a room the siz of Jupiter; I read moon

[south kindle]

Blame!

is it's name

[wicked grove]

does anyone have a pic or screenshot of a 4 way intersection for trains?

[feral jay]

#screenshots message That's how I usually do it

(not mine)

[wicked grove]

thanks

idk why i said 4 way, its even a 3 way

[feral jay]

That method works for 3 ways too, just omit one of the four sides

[wicked grove]

yeah, but i have quite an interesting setup

[feral jay]

LOL as the old curse says, may you live in interesting times...

[wicked grove]

#screenshots message

[feral jay]

Eh I'd say you're working too hard on making it look prertty

But it does look like that'll work

I just lay out foundations in a grid, it makes it easier to count. Train tracks like 3x3 curves

(as you can see from the linked screenshot)

[eager quarry]

Eh... Well, shoot. See, I've always heard of the epic danger of the Swamp, so I've been trying to build foundations about 120 meters above. Well, somehow, those big Stingers got up there, scared the absolute bajesus outta me, and now my supplies are caught in the middle of the Swamp.

[feral jay]

Yeah, those fuckers can JUMP

I remember when they introcuced that, I think it was the update with all the new ammo

[atomic notch]

Oh yeah scariest shit ever man

[jaunty jewel]

ill never forget the all out war i had with them in the swamp at night

[eager quarry]

And I still have basic nobelisks and barely getting into rifle ammo

[jaunty jewel]

a solid 5 or so elites and many alphas

[atomic notch]

Yall ever seen the spiders fight the hogs

[feral jay]

I just let 'em fight it out

[jaunty jewel]

i won with just rebar..

[raw dragon]

Should I just nuke the whole swamp?

[jaunty jewel]

to be fair i had a jetpack which definitely helped

[feral jay]

You would not be the first

[jaunty jewel]

burn them all

[feral jay]

Won't stop the spiders from respawning though

[atomic notch]

Nuke pave gone

[raw dragon]

Oh I know 😂 a friend did that because he lost his gear then had to fight to get it back.... Nukes were the answer

[jaunty jewel]

the first time i went there was ... fun

[raw dragon]

I really want them to have a flamethrower weapon. They could say it is to help recycle more efficiently

[eager quarry]

Attempted to use an unauthorized gif

[feral jay]

Eh, the game has plenty of weapons, it's not supposed to be a combat game

The combat is just a change of pace for a bit

[bleak maple]

Toggle the arachnophobia box and let those kitties come after you

[raw dragon]

What gifs ARE authorized?

[eager quarry]

Actually, using the Arachnophobia mode helps to spot those spiders.

[raw dragon]

I forgot how to get the gas mask oops

[wicked grove]

#screenshots message I kinda ignored that and went for a COMPLETELY different approach

[bleak maple]

You don't have signal problems from the tracks so close? Did they fix that?

[feral jay]

Which isn't my aproach, therefore it's the wrong approach

[wicked grove]

I havent unlocked them, I havent built the factory dependant on it thus i havent needed to worry about signals rn, and i havent unlocked them..

[wicked grove]

in my eyes, it is the right approach

[eager quarry]

Best part is, my Main Base is atop the Red Bamboo Forest. I've yet to meet the spooders there, unlike the vast stretches of the Swamp.

[atomic notch]

If we’re arguing about train efficiency just do push pull

[worthy pebble]

Can anyone help me figure out trains

[dense violet]

either make a post in qna or look through the many posts which will have answered your question. That's your best bet

unless it's just a very simple basic question?

[wicked nacelle]

I got some time if you want me to hop on a server or whatever - just let me knwo

[worthy pebble]

thanks that would help a lot

[wicked nacelle]

check your DMs

heh. playing at 10x speed is fun. though you have to crank down your auto-save timer and be careful of falling

jetpack is a death trap though since you fall 10x faster

[leaden acorn]

So does the game end once you finish project assembly? Or is it like Minecraft where you can return to the game after you've beaten it to keep playing?

[feral jay]

Jesus, just dropped a thousand steel pipes and copper sheets each on a hypertube line

Not long ago that woulda been crazy

[feral jay]

Yeah, it ends. There's a long standing feature request for "endless mode".

Well, you can continue playing

But there's no more goals given to you

[dense violet]

it's like minecraft, it doesn't finish because you kill hte ender dragon

tiers 1-9 are basically a long tutorial

[leaden acorn]

I don't care if there's goals. I just wanna be able to keep improving and building upon my factory after beating the story.

[feral jay]

And with that, I have reached the Islands from my Rocky Desert home

[dense violet]

yup, best time to do that 🙂 build your own projects, figure out your own logistics

[feral jay]

Yep this game can provide that

[wild kindle]

does anyone know if chatgpt is accurate for calculations

[feral jay]

It is, until it isn't.

(use it daily)

[dense violet]

you gamble with it every time. And it probably present the information in a good way.

in general just avoid chatbots, but especially with things like this

especially when you have numourous excellent planners that exist https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[feral jay]

chatgpt is fine if you understand its limitations

Unfortunately, most people don't

[fathom shuttle]

If you really wanted to use llms use deepseek or sonnet

[dense violet]

where is it's information coming from?
how is it vetted?
is it fed on super biased content?
is it going to hallucinate sources?
who knows.

[feral jay]

(supstitute "chatgpt" for whatever happens to be the most capable LLM of the day)

[leaden acorn]

It actually will hallucinate sources if you're not careful.

[dense violet]

oh absolutely. and if you have to sift through the whole thing anyway and double check it's findings, you might as well do it yourself

honestly the dumbest thing recently I've seen from it is brain worm CDC man try to submit an AI health report with fake sources

[reef basin]

It isn't, why would you use word generator instead of actual calculator?

[leaden acorn]

But if all you're using it for is math, AIs are surprisingly good at and reliable for that purpose.

[feral jay]

I wouldn't use an LLM for satisfactory planning if that's the question

[reef basin]

Hah, nope

[feral jay]

It will certainly fail you

[pastel carbon]

Umm, absolutely not

[wild kindle]

chatgpt doesnt only generate words

[leaden acorn]

Oh right. I got math mixed up with programming.

[pastel carbon]

The only thing I would trust generative AI chatbots for is producing fluff writing and maybe simple programming tasks, and even for the second one I'd keep a very close eye on what it's cooking up

[reef basin]

I would say that either

[wild kindle]

i mean ai is pretty good at math still gauth carries me sometimes

[reef basin]

It's relatively decent, but not some pro level

[leaden acorn]

But personally, I just do all my math either with a calculator or with my brain.

[feral jay]

It's good until it doesn't know something, and when that happens, it just makes shit up

[reef basin]

In the case we are talking about, it does

[feral jay]

And there's no magic "okay I'm hallucinating now" warning

[reef basin]

Or when a number is tokenized in a way that it gets split into two tokens, which suddenly breaks all the math

[feral jay]

yeah like I said, I use LLMs daily, they've probably doubled my productivity. But you really need to know what their limitations are

[pastel carbon]

If your maths is simple enough for an AI to give an accurate answer to, a calculator or similar is a much better tool for the job

[sterile blade]

Yeah, not too many people are so interested in sushi to go "well, I could really use a way to split this sushi belt in evenly sushied belts", so... 🤷‍♂️

[leaden acorn]

Oof. 1 of my hard drives just gave me a choice between two pretty sweet rewards and I don't know which one to pick...

[reef basin]

Realistically I'd say like 10% of their usage is justified

[pastel carbon]

They're very useful for fluff writing, I'll give it that

[steady glade]

is it possible to deselect a recipe without rebuilding?

[feral jay]

I think it's mostly code autocomplete I use it for, and it's pretty good at that

But man it gives me some boners sometimes

[leaden acorn]

Between Cast Screws and +6 Inventory Slots, which would you guys go with?

[sterile blade]

Or when it's just a waste of energy
"Hey Google, how's your day going? :D"

[steady glade]

cast screws are nice

[feral jay]

Yah, that's just boiling the oceans stupid

[reef basin]

Whichever I need more, I'd personally pick neither

[sterile blade]

How many people using it would pass your "boiling ocean" test?

[steady glade]

inventory slots are not all that important in the early game since you can also get some through the hub ||and the M.A.M||

[vagrant oar]

cast screws are peak

[feral jay]

No idea, I'd say 30% of it is just shooting the shit with a glorified autocorrect because people are bored

[vagrant oar]

lowkey never pick inv slots

[sterile blade]

BTW, that's also not just stupidity: it's literally how many are advertised to be used (the reference to Google wasn't random there)

[leaden acorn]

Yeah. I'll go with the screws then.

[feral jay]

Man I need better jetpack fuel, solid biofuel is ass

[wicked grove]

liquid biofuel is IT

[feral jay]

Yeah I just built out my inffrastructure to the Islands so I can start on that

Liquid biofuel is locked behind plastic production

[wicked grove]

i just miscalculated how many oil extractors i need for my power plant that needs 1800m3, thought i needed 10 fully overclocked, turns out i only need 8

[wicked grove]

plastic is easy enough anyways, if and when you get fuel just turn the polymer resin into plastic and boom

[feral jay]

SWEET, stitched iron plates!

[feral jay]

Well yes but I'm still early game

[vagrant oar]

I'm curious, have devs said anything about new areas? I would look up someone asking this q but search is broken on mobile for me :(

[feral jay]

Don't count on it anytime soon

[wicked grove]

scratch that, i only need 4

[vagrant oar]

got it

[rigid raven]

couldnt hurt to have more power

[feral jay]

I would absolutely pay for a new map DLC, and I hope that's where they go with that, rather than just additional biomes

[reef basin]

They are meh

[feral jay]

All screws are evil, as is all quickwire

[vagrant oar]

I really don't like DLCs in factory games, can't really tell you why but it just feels weird to me

like paid DLCs

[wicked grove]

i guess, but i already built about all 84 refineries and i am not willing to redo my infrastructure

[reef basin]

They won't do a new map

[rigid raven]

fair

[feral jay]

I don't like DLCs that just add "a bit extra" so people wind up playing different games, if it were entirely new maps, I could get on board with that

[vagrant oar]

a lot of the time factory games come with a big price tag to begin with so... (stares ominously at Factorio and SA DLC)

[vagrant oar]

ah fair

does new map also include expanding current map?

[feral jay]

It would be nice to start a new run where I'm not out exploring, look up a cliff, and remember "oh hey, there's a crash site up there!"

[vagrant oar]

like scaling up the edge biomes

[vagrant oar]

me with grounded tbh

[reef basin]

I think they are relatively happy with its current state and most likely won't expand it (much, if at all)

[vagrant oar]

ahh got it

[reef basin]

screws are fine tbh

[vagrant oar]

I would like a bigger map purely so I can justify using trains over just... belt stacks

running belt stacks feels much more convenient with terrain

[feral jay]

eh, I don't like them, I can work with them, but I find them to be... limiting, in terms of how I can plan factories with screw recipes

[vagrant oar]

it's just more belt splitting which can get tedious

but then again, belt stacksss

[feral jay]

belt stacks make GPU go brrrrrrrr

[reef basin]

if you just put screw machine in front of the machine that needs screws, it works just fine 😉

[feral jay]

yeah, I just don't like doing that

[reef basin]

it's good in many places though, not just screws

[vagrant oar]

stackable belt poles are the cause of many autism excitement outbreaks over how cool something looks for me lmao

[vagrant oar]

'I paid for the whole damn thing'

tbh my 7800xt hates me anyway because of raytraced lighting

[feral jay]

One save I had a seven or eight high belt stack all feeding a nuclear farm, my FPS dropped to like 10 when I was near that stack

[vagrant oar]

oh god

[feral jay]

I'm hoping that with splining the belts, that's improved

I mean I don't care that much about FPS, just that it made combat basically impossible

One factory had so many screws buzzing around on belts, if I tubed in fast enough from far enough away, the ground hadn't rendered yet, and I'd fall into the void to my death

blows up all the fart rocks

[wicked nacelle]

what happens when you've had the game open 24 hours? does it automatically relaunch and continue back into your game?

[sterile blade]

You don't direct feed screws?!

[wicked nacelle]

some people are masochists

[feral jay]

Sometimes yes, sometimes no

[wicked nacelle]

screws, quickwire, and nitrogen. Direct feed that stuff.

[sterile blade]

Iirc, servers running the game need to restart at least every 24h

[wicked nacelle]

but does single player local? - I'm playing at 10x speed so it would reset multiple times overnight

[sterile blade]

I gave all related info I knew already 😅

[wicked nacelle]

thank you 🙂

actually it would only reset once because it wouldn';t relaunch at 10x

[sterile blade]

I don't think it's based on game-speed

[wicked grove]

guys, why do my trains have a red outline whenever its left unattended for some time?

[wicked grove]

#screenshots message

[wicked nacelle]

I don't think it's smart enough to know if it's being "tricked" or not. I just set up a 10 minute autosave schedule and let's see if it saves every minute

[viral tendon]

Nice, overnight i made 300 industrial containers of turbo motors

Nvm they dissappared

[wicked nacelle]

good, you didn't earn them 😛

also, really? That seems like a lot.

[viral tendon]

Nah

[sterile blade]

Is there some UI message if you try interacting with it?
Seems like a "you can't dismantle this, right now" kind of outline

[wicked nacelle]

@sterile blade yeah, however "cheat engine" tricks the game, it is autosaving every minute on a 10m autosave schedule at 10x speed. So I'm guessing server reset will be tricked too

[wicked grove]

nope, just the outline that shows through walls

[sterile blade]

Sounds like good QA material

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

@wicked grove You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @sterile blade

[wicked nacelle]

nah, I just want to find my train issues faster 🙂

[sterile blade]

Use more sushi, and issue will come to you faster

[feral jay]

lol "Fuck, where's the damned stairs down in this factory"

"Fuck it, just delete the floor."

[sterile blade]

Reason why I place glass foundations carefully, so I can (1) see below and (2) go below without dismantling anything that will need to be rebuilt and repainted/patterned ^^

[feral jay]

I build my fctories with nicely laid out catwalks and signs and everything, and I still get lost

After a while, a hundred constructors all look the same

[sterile blade]

And then with 1.2 we will have paintable glass foundations

[sterile blade]

Don't they have different signs?!?

[feral jay]

There are many signs, and I use them all, I label them meticulously, and yet I still get lost in my own factories

[viral tendon]

I didnt even make half a industrial container 💔

[sterile blade]

Heh, would have loved to try giving you a tour of a certain labirinthic place with many signs and see the reaction

[feral jay]

Easiest way to do that is to share a save file, this game is pretty good for that

(another reason I only use vanilla friendly mods)

[wicked nacelle]

That seems like a more sane rate.

[sonic igloo]

quick question, so my miner mk1 can output 120 iron ingots per minute, so if I use mk1 conveyor and split it into two, will that result to two 60 conveyors?

[fleet copper]

What is the difference between the burner and the coal generator?

[feral jay]

Correct

[sterile blade]

I've done that plenty of times, but the savefile is now "bricked" (using old nuclear recipes).
Sure, the architecture is all there, but the awesome beltwork is clogged

[feral jay]

Well that's your fault for playing a live service game

[sterile blade]

Thank you, I didn't expect such a constructive answer here 😅

[sonic igloo]

Okay, so I split it again to create two 30 conveyors but why is it when I lead one of the 30 cnvyrs to the smelter mk1, that take 30 iron ingots per minute, its only at 50 percent eff?

[mortal ginkgo]

wait, did he call this game a live service?

[feral jay]

"Live service" in quotations

[sterile blade]

The take different input items and Biomass burners are the only generators that change their fuel consumption to match power demand; everything else always runs at 100%

[mortal ginkgo]

even in quotations it doesn't make sense lol

[feral jay]

Is the output full?

[feral jay]

Yeah I might be dating myself, I don't know what "live service game" actually means lol

[sonic igloo]

wdym? cuz like it all ends in a storage container

[feral jay]

I mean if you interact with the machines, is either the input empty, or the output full? Because if it's only operating at 50% then one of those must be true.

[sterile blade]

After all, that has always been the go-to solution to replace old recipes. It's not like we've ever seen different (and less "destructive") approaches before 🙄
Coughs in Packagers being added without bricking Diluted-Fuel setups

[sonic igloo]

the input becomes empty for a short time

[feral jay]

THen it's a matter of following that input back until you figure out why it's being starved

[sonic igloo]

like i dont get why it doesnt balance out

[mortal ginkgo]

you cant automate burners, coal gens can be

[feral jay]

The new belt counter might help

And by the way I love how "monitoring" has its own logistics category. It suggests that more is coming.

[sonic igloo]

:oo how does one use/get it

[sterile blade]

If there's not enough input you're either (possibly a combination of these):

• Not producing enough input (issue in the efficiency of prior machines)
• Not delivering enough input (issue in your logistic connections/logic)

[feral jay]

It's unlocked in the MAM I think

[mortal ginkgo]

its in awesome shop

[sonic igloo]

alrighty then

[sonic igloo]

thats whats been scratching my mind, but i might be overlooking some stuff

[mortal ginkgo]

dont trust that efficiency thing too much, it takes a while to give the actual true value.

what you can check is if the building actually stops for a time or not

[sterile blade]

If you make sure it's not one of those 2 points, you can narrow it down to the other ^^

[sonic igloo]

the eyeballing method aye? just what id expect from a veteran

[sterile blade]

Ngl, I too am quite distrustful of some UI numbers

[mortal ginkgo]

click on the building to see if the smelter stops that "working bar" or not

if you dont got any ore buffer like a storage, it means that the smelter's working fine

[sonic igloo]

im out here tryna use numbers for eff, but all it takes is a look and quick thinking

[sterile blade]

Tbf, it's pretty easy (for veterans) to eyeball wether a MK1 belt is carrying 60 or 30 items/min ^^

[mortal ginkgo]

the belt monitor actually works pretty well

[sterile blade]

Mh.... -.^

[sonic igloo]

its actually so cool when people just get used to small things like that

[feral jay]

The whole UI needs an overhaul and should give 5, 10, 15 minute averages, and instand readouts, IMO

Should take a page out of linux load average reporting

[mortal ginkgo]

BACK IN MAH DAYS

[feral jay]

A HAMBURGER COST A NICKEL

[sterile blade]

I like that the belt graphics are reliable enough to make this quite a reliable observation method

[sterile blade]

Makes me remember that wondrous feeling I got when I first realized "wait, I can pick stuff up directly from belts" 😱

[feral jay]

runs along belts picking up coal to make gas filters from

[sonic igloo]

that too, it amazes me what I can interact with

the only thing ive learned so far is there is never gonna be enough screws

[sterile blade]

Makes you realize that those aren't just pictures on a belt, they're actual items ahah

[feral jay]

Hey that's why this motor factor was producing half what I thought it should

I missed one belt hookup

[golden sundial]

WE NEED PASSENGER TRAINS

:)

[mortal ginkgo]

no.

[boreal musk]

thats why i have my belt item render at max and umlimited

[feral jay]

FUCK THAT, WE NEED PASSENGER DRONES

[mortal ginkgo]

no.

[golden sundial]

HELL YEAH

[mortal ginkgo]

no.

[golden sundial]

And racecar

[reef basin]

We have them? You can ride trains

[sonic igloo]

drones kinda takes away the fun

[boreal musk]

and belt counter also made it much more easier to tell the throughput if something goes wrong

[golden sundial]

Multiple people can't can they?

[feral jay]

We have racecars, the exporer and the facrtory cart, you just gotta build tracks

[golden sundial]

I mean you can go inside the freight part like a cage but it kicks you out if you clip through something

[golden sundial]

faster racecar

[feral jay]

200 km/h in the sand not fast enough?

[sonic igloo]

they should add zombies

[golden sundial]

no

[sterile blade]

Are you a passenger when you're driving?

[reef basin]

you asked for passenger train, not passengers train

[sonic igloo]

then defense turrets

[golden sundial]

a passenger train implies multiple passengers can go on it

[pastel carbon]

Ah yes, my favourite passengers trains

[sonic igloo]

just completely stray away from the factory idea and straight into tower defense

[sterile blade]

My passenger train brings passenger bullets to turret destinations

[sonic igloo]

better yet, make it a 5v5 moba game

add a battlepass too

[sterile blade]

Ah, that's hot! That's hot!

[golden sundial]

yeah

[feral jay]

And microtransactions! Hook up the awesome shop to our credit cards!

[golden sundial]

Buy resources with money and skip the wait!

[sonic igloo]

just go full on EA

[feral jay]

You, ma'am, are FIRED.

[viral tendon]

We need a train that shoots lizard doggos in radius of 10 000m

[boreal musk]

you can only get the machines from lootboxes

gacha baby

[sonic igloo]

have to pay to get to next tier

[sterile blade]

That would be the day this server becomes full-on toxic, everyone competing for the most coupons-awarding techniques

[reef basin]

not sure if multiple people can go into one locomotive, but afaik you can just go multiple people into multiple locomotives

[leaden turret]

that happened years ago already

[feral jay]

That's funny because when you look at my playstyle as a whole, it's a ticket generation optimization challenge for me

[golden sundial]

We created the perfect game: A free game with machines from lootboxes, a battlepass, 5v5 moba game, and microtransactions in the awesome shop

[feral jay]

You forgot the DLCs. Where are the glittery and goth skins that we must pay for?

[sterile blade]

Which is fine... So long as it's fun-driven rather than money-driven
The latter is what really easily pushes toxicity upwards imo

[golden sundial]

ofc you need all the emotes too

500 usd in emote dlcs

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> Twilight Skin DLC, when?

[feral jay]

Well I didn't ask for your opinion, and if you're gonna be tosic, we're gonna have words!

We will argue like two strangers on the Internet!

[sterile blade]

Buying the game unlocks just up to Tier 0 and allows to build one crafting bench outside the HUB. Everything else is DLC and paid content

[sonic igloo]

Ill just go back to space engineers at that point

[sterile blade]

Sprays tosic water

[feral jay]

That's the beer making the typos

[halcyon raft]

why they still not add programmable merger?

[leaden turret]

what in your mind would a programmable merger do?

[feral jay]

I got my priority mergers, I begged for years for that, so I'll shut up about programmable mergers

[sterile blade]

Someone hasn't read through the kilometers of recent #patch-notes

[prisma hazel]

does anyone know if theres like a Pantone swatch for some nice factory colours, found a few online but looking for some more unique ones the community have put together

[leaden turret]

ask in #design-and-architecture maybe?

[feral jay]

deletes all his hackjob priority merger blueprints

[prisma hazel]

ah yeah true good point thanks

[halcyon raft]

priority merger do nothing,pointles

[sterile blade]

Also remember to ~

[eager quarry]

So, at current, I have no clue what I should work on. I just finished phase 3 for the first time.

[sonic igloo]

Automate, Optimize, Design, Lizard Doggo

4th one is essential

[eager quarry]

I have 7 lizard doggos

[feral jay]

Bullshit, I used them everywhere, and I have used them everywhere for years. I just had my own blueprints to do what can now be done with a simple buildable.

[feral jay]

I almost just had three but I was too lazy to walk the third back

[sterile blade]

Admittedly, they "just" save some logistic space
Ie: they don't add anything new

[sonic igloo]

I can NOT design even if my life depends on it

[feral jay]

Yeah that was basically my argument to the devs — it's already possible, it just takes a bunch of room and a complex blueprint.

[prisma hazel]

yeah ive had a look at those and they are a great help, perhaps im trying to find something too niche. For example; coated concrete thats a bit more pretty

[feral jay]

Try playing with the colour values and the customizer

Like set it to ridiculous values

[sterile blade]

You may find some more detailed lists on Reddit, but I don't think any list has more than one colour per item
It all comes down to wether one agrees with/likes the method of color selection of the creator or not, imo

[eager quarry]

I almost panicked when I thought you said Combinators.

[feral jay]

Sorry, I meant retro encabulator

[keen hawk]

is instant plutonium pellet alt any good?

particle accelerators are really expensive and im not fully automated on the parts for it yet

[sterile blade]

Meanwhile, programmable splitters' features still haven't gotten sorted out properly

[feral jay]

THey're the same thing, just simply multiple smart splitters in a single splitter

I'd love to see "send 30% this way and 70% that way", but I doubt that will happen

[reef basin]

as with any reddit lists 😛

[viral tendon]

Can we all agree that smart splitters exist

[eager quarry]

Methinks one must wait until Blueprint Maker pt. 2 Electric Boogaloo to make any good train blueprints. Having only 16 meters between supports just looks tacky...

[reef basin]

or blueprint the support separately and the train track separately (or just build the train track manually)

[prisma hazel]

its something that seems easy to implement but would have quite a large impact on the game, ala blueprints and the thought that went into those

[eager quarry]

Measurement, my goodman

[reef basin]

?
just build the track (measure it as you want), then place blueprinted supports (in whatever intervals you want)

[feral jay]

But, again, it's something I already have blueprints for., I just can't paramaterize them. To me it's more of a QoL thing than a balance thing.

[sonic igloo]

nanomachines, son

[feral jay]

I agree that "send 30% this way and 70% that way" splitters would be a major change though

[eager quarry]

If only we had Nanobots. Instead, I just have leagues of Hatchers to contend with...

I think I need to go get more oil. I don't have enough to automate rifle ammo

[feral jay]

My whole world changed when I realized I could crouch-walk up to hatchers and they'd stay dormant while I beat the hell out of them

[prisma hazel]

would be great for those perfectly efficient power grid types haha

[reef basin]

would remove the puzzle that's intentionally in the game

(and is already bypassable by merging 30% and 70% separately, if you really want to)

[feral jay]

THey said that about smart splitters and they said that about priority mergers, it's not that big of a deal

[eager quarry]

Only useful when they're not surrounded by radioactive chargers. I'm still working on clearing the Red Bamboo Forest, and I haven't unlocked the Hazmat Suit.

[reef basin]

what? I don't think they ever said anything like that about them

[feral jay]

Just more that, it would be a BIG change and would need to be well playtested

Priority mergers for sure

[reef basin]

argument for priority mergers was "it's pointless" (which it still is)

[feral jay]

THey're pretty steadfast about ratio splitters

But, meh, I have my ratio splitters, they just take up more space than a splitter buildable

[eager quarry]

Ratiod splitters might be useful. Like, I only want to peel off 240 from my 720 lane without affecting, say, Turbo Fuel production?

[sonic igloo]

How about add multiple splitters that can either split into 2,3,4, or 5

[feral jay]

Yes, they would be useful, but they would be an epic change to the game

But, I got my priority mergers, so I'm happy

I can now tell my coal mines to feed my power plants before they feed my motor plant

[sterile blade]

Personally, I like the ingenuity needed to achieve such (non-strictly-necessary) results ^^

[feral jay]

The problem is, is it's a rather simple matter of division and addition to make a ratio splitter blueprint

[sterile blade]

"Problem"?

[feral jay]

You just can't parameterize it

[eager quarry]

I have three things I think I want to work on tonight. A, I want UNLIMITED FUEL for my jetpack. 2, I want to dip my toes into aluminum refinement. And D, I want to start automating rifle ammo.

[feral jay]

Dude you don't "dip your toes" into aluminium refinement. You go whole hog on that.

[sterile blade]

Nope. Smart splitters don't balance (they don't keep round-robin behavior with all settings)

[fathom shuttle]

Rocket fuel

[sterile blade]

Ie: you can't load-balance sushi with smart splitters, you need to add normal splitters (and mergers)

[feral jay]

Interesting...

[sterile blade]

BUT for programmable splitters it only works when the input is lower tier than the outputs, thus my "need to sort its features out" comment (devs are "looking into it" last I heard about it)

[fathom shuttle]

Gonna build my aluminum factory in the middle of the map

[feral jay]

Well yeah, because all the aluminium is in the middle of the map

[fathom shuttle]

I’m doing it that way because it want to be close to the oil in the middle

Built different

[feral jay]

Aluminium is in the middle of the map because that puts it decently far away from all starting locations

[fathom shuttle]

Interesting choice lol

[leaden turret]

looks at bauxite node right next to rocky desert

[feral jay]

Close enough to "middle of the map"

[leaden acorn]

So... I got a question. How do you deal with inputs and outputs that are like... 0.6 per minute, and 1.2 per minute respectively?

[feral jay]

With mathematics?

[wicked grove]

least common multiple and go from there maybe

[leaden acorn]

I mean I get that, but how am I supposed to divide that for peak efficiency when I can't put .6 or .2 of stuff on my belts?

[leaden turret]

it's 6 per 10 minutes, tada

the numbers are a rate over time, not an amount

[wicked grove]

multiply both by 10, underclock and overclock respectively

[leaden acorn]

Underclock? I know what overclocking is, but what is underclocking?

[feral jay]

oh nice, iron pipe and pure quartz... ima keep those ones on my belt

[wicked grove]

when you decrease the percentage the machine works at to achieve a desired output, doesnt need any shards

[leaden acorn]

Ah. But wouldn't that sacrifice efficiency though...?

[shy mulch]

Just manifold EVERYTHING :p

[wicked grove]

not if it matches what you need as input and output

[leaden acorn]

Honestly though, it sounds like it might be better to put off the packing machines for now. It's like I need them right this second, and I'd prefer if my production lines only took 1 min cycles, not 10 min cycles.

[feral jay]

Man I love this game, sometimes I just get bored and think "I wanna go kill some things", and the game delivers

[wicked grove]

its better to at least start while you have the knowlegde instead of forgetting it later on, but your choice

[wicked grove]

agreed, especially when i get tickets

[shy mulch]

100%
I have a save that I'm keeping in phase 0, sometimes I load it and go off looking for sloops and spheres, and kill whatever gets in my way, it's a real challenge

[leaden acorn]

And if you're wondering, the packing machines are a modded thing. They basically take about 25 items and condensed them into 1 "packed" item. That way you can have more stuff per stack, and save a bit on storage space.

[reef basin]

same as you deal with outputs that are 30 or 60 per minute

[fathom shuttle]

Where do I find the priority mergers

[feral jay]

Or "hey I wanna go spelunking"

[fathom shuttle]

I swear I remember seeing them once

[leaden turret]

or "hey i wanna save and reload frequently to do a jumping puzzle without cheating"

[wicked grove]

if you need it, heres the formula to calculate clock speed as per required items per min

Clock Speed (%) = (Required Input Rate / Base Input Rate) × 100

[shy mulch]

unlock in MAM

[feral jay]

eh lots of games have jumping puzzles, this game, it's a nice diversion

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I found them in the quartz tree

[leaden acorn]

I figured. Cause if you're always putting in the exact input a machine can take, every minute, it comes out to 100% clock speed AKA 100% efficiency. Right?

[feral jay]

100% effeciency is, surprisingly, mor subjective than most people think

[fathom shuttle]

Why do you care about power efficiency tho

[wicked grove]

doesnt lead to power fluctuations on power graph

[fathom shuttle]

Particle accelerators enter the chat

[wicked grove]

technically? i believe so, although clock speed arent really the same

[shy mulch]

if you don't need all of the output of a machine, reduce its clock speed so it produces exactly what you need. The input will just back up and machines creating the input will pause when the line is full. If you don't like power fluctuation then underclock those too

In late game there's plenty stuff that causes power fluctuation that can't be avoided, so if you are intent on having a perfectly flat power graph, you're going to have a bad time anyway, might as well embrace it early

[dense violet]

same way as anything else, manifold it and clock the machines appropriately

what are the required 100% inputs required for the 0.6 and 1.2?

[leaden acorn]

Oh, I don't care about Power Efficiency. Just production Efficiency. If anything, I prefer to have more power running than I actually need. Both because it means the generators burn less fuel, and because if one generator goes down, for any reason, one of the redundant generators will pick up the slack.

[wicked grove]

This only applies to biomass burners, all other gens just burn fuel regardless of how much is being used.

[feral jay]

HARMONIZE WITH ME

[leaden acorn]

Which is all I have to work with right now.

[shy mulch]

EMBRACE THE TAPESTRY

[wicked grove]

I see

[feral jay]

I CANNOT. THE RIPPLES OF THE BLOOD-WATER DO NOT MATCH THE RESONANCE.

[shy mulch]

If you're still at that stage, I'd say get to coal as soon as you can, it'll take a lot of pressure off you as it just runs and you can forget about it

If you really want to stay with biofuel, don't burn leaves and wood directly, use constructors to turn them into biomass, then more constructors to turn the biomass into solid biomass, it's way more efficient that way and the stuff you collect will last a lot longer

[leaden acorn]

Also I realized I could just solve all my problems with the packaging of items by just... not using the constructors to do it, and instead using the dedicated packaging machines, and only package end of production line stuff, cause it'd be way faster, and the math is way easier.

[feral jay]

Well don't tell them all the secrets...

[shy mulch]

what is the purpose of that mod you are using? it sounds kinda pointless

[leaden acorn]

That's what I've been doing.

[verbal solstice]

just do coal

it only took me like 10 hours to get from tier 0

takes no time at all to set up

[leaden acorn]

Saving on storage space really. It condenses every item in the game by a ratio of 25:1. And it's not an inconvenience cause all the vanilla machines have been coded to accept the condensed items.

Basically I can take 5 stacks of stuff and make it into 1 stack of stuff worth that same amount, and use that for crafting and automation and such.

[shy mulch]

At those phases there's not really any storage issues, one storage container per item is more than enough

If bag space is your concern for manually carrying things, just put conveyor belts down to do the transferring for you

[leaden acorn]

I know it's more of a late-game thing. But it's better to at least have it integrated from the beginning, instead of having to retroactively squeeze it in later. Plus, I just think it's neat.

[shy mulch]

If you like it and it makes you happy, then great, that's what games are all about
My point is that it really isn't necessary at all, even at late game, I've never experienced an issue that would be solved by that solution

[flint spade]

i have NOT been playing for 8 hours💔 i do NOT need a 15 min break💔

[sly bloom]

Just finished building the exterior my first ever mega factory, Lmk what yall think of the design. I put it in #screenshots

[wicked grove]

am i tripping or did train stations used to show the time of a round trip?

[shy mulch]

It's very... big 😄

[sly bloom]

They dont, i just use a stopwatch on my phone

[verbal solstice]

no. what you do need is your ficsit-mandated 2 millisecond microbreak. see you then!

[sly bloom]

Well yeah it is a mega factory

[wicked grove]

huh. i swear they did..

[sly bloom]

Maybe they removed it

[ivory condor]

Probably for the best, you shouldn't use signs that way anymore anyways, because signs are now poorly optimized when used that way and cause the game to stutter like crazy I'm definitely not making factories with signs that way. Sure signs performed far better in 1.0, but this is 1.1 and signs are just cursed performance wise if you use that way now

[flint spade]

i think they should add bace defence, factory maintenence, survival elements, green energy, terraforming and golf lowkey

[mild finch]

green energy is the opposite of this game's vision, maintenance would be the bane of our existence, terraforming would suck to code, but base defence and golf could be funy unused features

[flint spade]

ik i just watched the video of the stuff they said they arent adding

[mild finch]

oh, didn't watch it

[flint spade]

me neither, just skimmed through it

[ivory condor]

I remember playing a mod for this game that added terraforming, but it had severe optimization issues that it might as well have been broken

It was a interesting prototype idea though, if not something I would recommend others actually trying

[shy mulch]

all that stuff is really opposite to what this game is, there are other games if you want those things

[mild finch]

yeah, makes sense, you switch the terrain from being a sheet of textures to a modifiable sheet of textures

[arctic swallow]

hell nah

[flint spade]

the only thing there i could like possibly want is golf i guess

[mild finch]

or a bunch of blocks more likely

[arctic swallow]

okay maybe golf

[flint spade]

i would NOT play golf if it was added💔

[ivory condor]

I think it does, but there was definitely not insignificant performance issues going on with that mod needless to say

[arctic swallow]

then why ask for it??

[flint spade]

bc it was apart of the list of stuff they arent adding

i felt abit silly yk, abit adventerous maybe

[arctic swallow]

don't want to sound rude but thats the same as going to the restaurant ordering a steak and then not eating it

[flint spade]

abit of a jokester if you get me

[flint spade]

depends what steak

[arctic swallow]

it doesn't matter what food it is, it is still the same example

[flint spade]

it does matter

the food plays a crucial role

[mild finch]

yeah...

they're both ragebait, but the outcome is different, ragebait on discord is much more convenient, because you're anonymous

[ivory condor]

Oh I just found the mod, do I dare try this out again in 1.1 and see how this ends

It could be fun because I don't need a framerate right?

[arctic swallow]

they should remove hover pack it is too good ||(first time ragebaiting on discord)||

[flint spade]

mods

ban this guy

[leaden turret]

go to restaurant after getting punched in the face, use steak to keep swelling down

[flint spade]

boiling hot steak

salted

[mild finch]

tbh, i tend to use my jetpack a lot because of a glitch that lets me go uppies much more than normal

[arctic swallow]

"if my hand got chopped off i would not panic. i would put steak on it" ahhhh

[mild finch]

and i work on stuff that has no power yet

[arctic swallow]

i know that this happends when there is an autosave

[mild finch]

not when there is an autosave

[obsidian zodiac]

"lets me go uppies much more than normal" just made me picture a daschund building the space elevator

[mild finch]

when i spam q and space

[mild finch]

lmfao

[flint spade]

whens satisfactory coming to the wii

[arctic swallow]

i have a very important question

what is a green room

[obsidian zodiac]

is this a trick question

[leaden turret]

a room that is deficient in red and blue

[obsidian zodiac]

been talking to reggie, i dont think its gonna happen

[mild finch]

(translated to qwerty becaus i use azerty)

[leaden turret]

bowser*

[arctic swallow]

no what is a green room channel

[obsidian zodiac]

nah he doesnt handle wii business

[arctic swallow]

i know there is

[obsidian zodiac]

the green room is where i powder my nose before streams

[leaden turret]

doug bowswer, coo of ninty america

[obsidian zodiac]

was he coo during the wii's lifespan tho

[leaden turret]

ah yeah 😅

would be bowser for switch online virtual console nonsense tho 😛

[arctic swallow]

insert why is he lying? meme

[ivory condor]

Speaking of consoles, is cross play between console and pc going to happen or nay?

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac ZX Spectrum port, when?

[arctic swallow]

i don't know

[obsidian zodiac]

as of right now, cross play will not be available between console and PC. you can play xbox to PS though

[arctic swallow]

can we play satisfactory on microwave?

[obsidian zodiac]

again ive been talking to samsung refrigeration and kitchen appliances and i dont think its gonna happen

[arctic swallow]

nooooooooo

[leaden turret]

hannah says no snow biome, presumably no fridge biome either.

[mild finch]

naaaaw :/

[obsidian zodiac]

i know i know. they kept saying something about not having input for those decisions and that this was a Home Depot, or something

[leaden turret]

would've thought y'all have been speaking IKEA, rather than Home Depot.

[arctic swallow]

could wetware computer run satisfactory?

[mild finch]

grats, now my brain is looping the jingle

[leaden turret]

jingle?

ikea has a jingle?

[mild finch]

yeah?

[leaden turret]

since when?

[mild finch]

what do you call that if not a jingle?

[obsidian zodiac]

at risk of turning into #off-topic-general im curious about the jingle then lets keep it to satisfactory lol

[leaden turret]

trollingly confirm ikea dlc then it's still on-topic

[leaden turret]

do you mean that ikea portugal thing that comes up on youtube?

[keen hawk]

im using fluid freight cars to shift crude oil to my rocket fuel plant, train station tells me i have a throughput of 200~m3 per minute when im consuming 275, but ive checked both sides of my setup and my production line is running at 100% eff, while my extraction is at 60~% eff

is this going to be a problem later? i really cant afford for this rocketfuel plant to ever be lacking resources

[mild finch]

I mean the thing at the ends of the ads

[leaden turret]

post in #off-topic-media please becfause I don't know what you're talking about

[keen hawk]

the only issue i can think off is that the trains stop offloading when a car docks, but it hasnt been an issue so far? but 200 is way below me required 275

[flint spade]

there goes my saturday

[verbal solstice]

1.2 needs to make the chainsaw usable as a weapon

[flint spade]

been saying this

keep having to crank 90s on the spiders when i run out of metal poles to shoot

[fathom shuttle]

Are you using 1 station or multiple

[keen hawk]

just one

[fathom shuttle]

Let it run for an hour or two and see if there are any hiccups

If there are, add more stations

[keen hawk]

i realised the issue

i used diluted fuel and made too much, so my HOR was backlogged but hadnt impacted the efficiency until now

[fathom shuttle]

It happens

I’ll need 92 smelters for the aluminum bruh

[mild finch]

that's the exact amount of heavy oil residue refineries in my turbofuel plant lol

[keen hawk]

pure ingots + sloppy bauxite my beloved

[mild finch]

nawww, spend 8785 quartz and 14642 limestone to make 2300 more aluminium

[keen hawk]

me when i spout nonsense

[south plume]

Guys if I automate iodyne filter and put it in the dimensional depo will I be able to use it or I have to carry them in my inventory

I plan to mess with nuclear power and was just hoping for it

[wicked grove]

you cant take items out of the dimensional depot with conveyors

[grizzled gust]

He said put them in inv

[south plume]

All right. Will have to carry them then

Just unlocked last phase. Blows my brain

[mild finch]

huh?

[south elm]

Hello!
Im new here, just bought the game on the summer sale. I have like 2 hours in it and im loving it deerly, but its a little heavy for my PC.
Im having serious FPS drops when i place any building whatsoever and i was wondering if its possible to like, turn off animations or make them less heavy by any ingame options. I think it might help. I looked thru basic options in visuals etc but havent found any solution.
Thanks in advance for any help!

[spice patio]

What CPU?
What GPU?
What ingame Texture Quality?

[south elm]

intel core i7, nvidia Gforce GTX 1660, medium. I should also mention that it is a Laptop.

[leaden turret]

on battery or mains?

[south elm]

It is connected to the power source if thats what you're asking, im a little illiterate technically

[spice patio]

And there isn't 1660 Mobile, only 1660 Ti Mobile.
And that Core i7 is just branding that was used for 14 generations of Intel CPUs.

[south elm]

yes it is Ti

[south elm]

9th gen

[spice patio]

But 6GB of VRAM, so that Medium textures should work fine.
So probably the common Nvidia driver issue.
Make #1038092680493801533 thread and I'll get you instructions to remove and reinstall Nvidia GPU drivers correctly from scratch.

[keen hawk]

im making computers, wire, cable and sheets all from a single node of impure copper

ts is so bad

[wicked grove]

hes asking if he can use the filters automated out of the depot OR he will have to use his inv

[spice patio]

@south elm

And if that doesn't help, then do more indepth investigation on what might be going on.

[fathom shuttle]

Overclock them my friend

[fathom shuttle]

2 computers/min

[keen hawk]

ive been supplementing with caterium alloy wire and copper alloy ingots with tier 3 250% miner

but its still miserable

[fathom shuttle]

Do a new factory for electronics

You’ll need a lot of them

What tier are you in rn?

[keen hawk]

tier 8

oops

all my oil materials are near the coast, and the mountains here in the north west make me wanna kms

im doing a lot of droning stuff around up here

gonna go to the opposite side of the map via cannon and set up another base near the blue lake i think, its most convenient there for everything but bauxite

[mild finch]

I don't want to

I don't care too much about space, but i care about power

And the fuel gens are what takes up the most space anyways

[mild finch]

Oof

[steady drum]

Hi, I've seen people make hypersonic hypertubes, and I can't seem to figure out how. Mine just slows down to a slog after a while.

How do they do it

[dense violet]

there's videos on youtube for it. find a 1.0 vid

[south elm]

thanks for being invested, https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1390296352226939000

[onyx owl]

grapchics

[fathom shuttle]

It’s 34% more power per item

[autumn skiff]

i love that the appdata folder for satisfactory is called factorygame

[onyx owl]

what could be more true than factorygame for a factory game

[reef basin]

that's the original name of the project

[autumn skiff]

thank god they changed

[reef basin]

I mean the "original project" was just a hackaton game

[autumn skiff]

oh

[reef basin]

so it's not like it was intended to stay for longer

[mild finch]

I am aware

[eager quarry]

I got slooped biofuel set up and linked to my dimensional storage, and I got Sloppy Alumina. I did not, however, even set up a bauxite miner. That will be a tomorrow plan.

[dusty dragon]

@steady yacht #screenshots message hi i'm (terrible at factory games even after playing a couple hundred hours but am) interested in playing co-op after i'm done with the single player run, it's prolly gonna take some years at my pacing cuz i sometimes restart the game from scratch when i learn better ways of doing things and wanna implement them in new runs to see how they perform in that context

[eager quarry]

Methinks everything prior to Aluminum = Starter Base.

[torn tartan]

If you are to automate phase 4 What do you need more of, Rubber or Plastic ?

[viscid bobcat]

hey guys just joined the discord and im new to satisfactory. Wanted to ask one thing, I just set up an 8 coal power plant and was wondering if it was worth transporting it with starter cables. The base is kinda far away

[dense violet]

if you want power it's worth it?

you probably want more power too

[viscid bobcat]

yea but would it create any bottlenecks? are the normal cables able to support a higher yield like that?

[flint spade]

i wish there was a chair where i could just sit

[dense violet]

cables don't have any power limit

[torn tartan]

I just automated 1100 alumnuim sheets per min to realise it is the ingots that are more important lol

[viscid bobcat]

really?

[dense violet]

there's only 1 cable type

[viscid bobcat]

no i meant like

[mild finch]

rip

[fathom shuttle]

How does the pipe priority thing work

I forgot

[dense violet]

black magic, and sometimes doesn't

[torn tartan]

guess it is nice to have 1100 alumunim sheets per min, maybe they will become useful for heat sinks and what not

can also just take the ingots if needed

[viscid bobcat]

the substations or transformers whatever they're called early on, do they have a power limit?

[fathom shuttle]

I need it for my aluminum refineries since I don’t have limestone nearby

[fathom shuttle]

Nah

[viscid bobcat]

power poles

[fathom shuttle]

You can run 2TW on a single mk1 power pole

[dense violet]

just split fresh and waste

[viscid bobcat]

damn, then whats the point of unlocking transformers and stuff

[dense violet]

there are no substations or transformers

[reef basin]

you... don't have any "transformer" in the game?

[torn tartan]

I wish you could dump water back into the sea

[viscid bobcat]

wait im stupid

i meant the transmission tower

[reef basin]

recycle back into production

that's just long range power pole

[torn tartan]

I know, but it is a huge effot

[reef basin]

no, it's super easy

[viscid bobcat]

oh

[fathom shuttle]

I was gonna do it but the problem is that the numbers don’t work out nicely and I’d have like 30 extra water/min if I wanted to keep each ore belt separate

[dense violet]

that's just abig power pole

[reef basin]

see e.g. #math-and-meta message

[boreal musk]

vip junction? you rise the pipes for the fresh and let the waste water at flat so the junction prioritize the waste

its unreliable and much easier to split them or just use pure since you dont have any limestone for wet concrete

[dense violet]

?? the diagram I linked you works out the numbers perfectly. You use clocking

[viscid bobcat]

bro im an idiot, i thought that the power poles had a capacity thats why I was waiting to get the transmission towers

Goddamn i keep messing the two up

[boreal musk]

poles doesnt have capacity limit

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I just saw that

[boreal musk]

you can bring entire 1TW power with just a single cable

[torn tartan]

I am doing it for my aluminium, just took an extra oh nice

[viscid bobcat]

ok thank you guys

[dense violet]

it's ... the easiest thing to do
doesn't requires extra resources and is unbreakable

[torn tartan]

What do you need more of plastic or rubber for automating phase 4 ?

[dense violet]

you just do a tiny bit of math

[torn tartan]

I am pretty sure I have my 1100 alumunim factory balanced time will tell

[boreal musk]

depends on your recipe selection some can use more rubber, and vice versa

[torn tartan]

Yeah true

[dense violet]

that still doesn't contradict spliting fresh and waste is simplest

[torn tartan]

Ohhhh yeah I read that again lol, that makes so much sense. Idk why I didn't do that

I guess I will re-do the water pipe work

[mild finch]

yeah, i wanna have fun with that in my world (have a singular cable connecting my power source to the extrerior, and build something around it to showcase it

[dense violet]

I mean if it works it works 🙂 there's multiple ways, that's just... super reliable and simple

[torn tartan]

Yea will defo be doing it next time tho

[boreal musk]

just remember to not delete random cable

[mild finch]

yes, can cause pain

[boreal musk]

i bring my power with trains, so its impossible to break my power if i delete random cable

[keen hawk]

copper sheets are such a pain
how are u telling me that 20 machines cant even fill a mk3 belt

[mild finch]

wait whaa?

[keen hawk]

this is hyperbole
concrete at base takes in 3:1 limestone, copper sheet 2:1 is kinda whatever but its just kinda annoying

[mild finch]

with the steamed copper sheets 20 machines can do above 450

[keen hawk]

i dont have that one

[boreal musk]

you mean for the input? yeah 20 machine takes 400/min copper which need mk4 belt

just divide it to 10 machines to each side

so you only deal with 200 each

which mk3 can hold

[sharp sentinel]

TMW as a relaxing treat for yourself you're building 27 coal generators at crater lake.

[fallen moss]

Who up satisfying they factory?!

[mortal ginkgo]

Doggo brought me a Nuke Obelisk..

He knows its time. I know its time. We all know its time.

[fiery gust]

Does this imply that the total output of any given factory is that factory...arriving?

[sharp sentinel]

I cry. Had to remove three of the coal generators because they weren't in alignment to actually receive coal. A bit of the hillside was coming up through the floor and putting them off in such a way conveyor lifts couldn't reach.

I'll use the space in the line for something silly.

[fallen moss]

Probably

[fiery gust]

For some reason that thought seems...expected-

Anyways good night pioneers

[sharp sentinel]

Gawd, pipes are so dumb. Nothing running on them, but kept having a weird dip. Flushed the entire line, now they work fine.

[mild finch]

yes

pipes are pain

[sharp sentinel]

But, after some troubleshootiung my 24 coal generators at crater lake are working!

Later I'll go work on upgrading my Fuel Generators at Blue Crater to turbo fuel and add additional power there as well.

[mild finch]

turbofuel isn't really worth it

[mild finch]

but try to get the diluted fuel alternate

[sharp sentinel]

I should honestly go visit my base and claim the hard drive I scanned yesterday. It's been six hours...

[mild finch]

and the heavy oil residue alternate

[mild finch]

or just build a mam

[sharp sentinel]

Where's the fun in that?

[mild finch]

then build an hypertube launcher to get there :3

[sharp sentinel]

Something super amusing about all my drones being default names. Lotta European and Swedish names and then 'Mexico City'.

[ivory condor]

lol

[rare torrent]

is there a way to collor things faster i dont really feel like runing around the whole base and painting everything idividually

just so i realise it looks bad so i can do it all over again

[sharp zinc]

guys i really need help understanding trains can sm help me

[sharp sentinel]

I spent so much time over at Rocky Desert refining my power stuff that I accumulated 19 tickets just from plastic resin.

[white dawn]

I think there might be a mod to make mass repainting easier, btw, though perhaps I just imagined that

One thing that a lot of folks don't know: you can right-click on swatches to set them to be the default while building. That can help with the initial placements, at least (though obvs that won't help if you decide to repaint)

Alternatively, blueprints remember any customizations that are applied in there, so that may help as well (though again, not as much for the repainting angle)

[rare torrent]

atleast something thanks

[white dawn]

Also keep in mind that if you change the color of a swatch, anything which used that swatch will get updated

So if you're using a swatch you've not used before, you can always just update it "live"

[rare torrent]

i cant do this though

[rare torrent]

i can but it only works for the premade swatches

[white dawn]

Ah yeah, the "custom" swatch doesn't do that

[strong pasture]

I learned that the hard way after color coding pipes for an entire turbofuel factory with one color swatch (idk i was dumb i kept needing to paste the color codes in the same swatch)

[white dawn]

It'd be nice if the swatch system got an overhaul at some point; would be really nice to be able to have an arbitrary number of labellable swatches

Instead of needing a text file (or a better memory than mine) to keep track of how each one's being used. :)

[lunar frigate]

is there a way i can detect when a buffer is full and turn on a sink? working with oil for the first time

[white dawn]

For solids, you can use a Smart Splitter with an "Overflow" output

There's no way to sink liquids directly, though

[lunar frigate]

so true actually

forgot about that

[strong pasture]

only for water you can use the wet concrete recipe to use up that water and just use limestone together in a refinery. Limestone is everywhere so its rlly ez

[foggy heart]

Anyone else having issues with satisfactory calc not loading?

[south sinew]

ok so

it was really unnecessary to use two ISCs of alclad sheet

I forgot they stack so high so the machine buffers also contain a ton of them

[keen hawk]

turbo fuel is fine, rocketfuel is about twice as efficient but more hoops to jump through
you get rewarded with a gaseous fuel tho so its still pretty neat

[lunar frigate]

smart splitters are so good now ill never run out of heavy oil residue

god bless

[strong pasture]

I have a friend that made a sushi line of ALL of her items (oil products, iron, steel, supercomputers, nuclear stuff) onto one mk 5 belt and used smart splitters to get certain materials

[timid rune]

🙏 the electrode scrap line stays stable

[lunar frigate]

smart splitters sound good for routing my mall stuff into a dimensional depot

[fiery reef]

can someone help me pls?

[reef forge]

based friend

[timid rune]

still a LOT to do to finish this aluminum ingot plant build >_>

[strong pasture]

she is like a toned down version of josh (lets game it out)

[timid rune]

probably a smaller aluminum plant build than everyone else though (~10800 ingots/min)

[strong pasture]

I love phase 3 cuz uou get to make cool and wow looking stuff without making it too complex, + you get access to somersloops (exept if you didn’t get computers from crash sites. Aluminum is kinda boring in my opinion

[timid rune]

troubleshooting an aluminum plant gets interesting 🙂

[sterile blade]

That's da way

[sour pilot]

you'd better state your question first )

[strong pasture]

imagine waiting 1 minute to get 2 wire

[late heart]

So I'm needing an item for repairs and I have no idea what it is, I'm on tier 2 and it looks like a square with a cylinder on top of it

[timid rune]

I used to do the sushi line

until I started thinking about slightly bigger builds

[white dawn]

What do you mean by "repairs?"

[late heart]

Pods

[fiery reef]

so... if i create a save and the game loads it just crashes. i can play saves, delete saves, play on servers, join friends games, etc but not make new saves. it worked just fine yesterday

[white dawn]

Oh -- if you mouseover the inventory slot thing it should give you the name of the item, I think

[sour pilot]

any new save, like starting new session and making additional at existing session?

[fiery reef]

making a completely new save

[sterile blade]

Sounds like a planning issue 😅 😆

Even with just MK3, one should be able to fit 20/min or more ^^

[strong pasture]

no she has almost evry item in the game that she unlocked this is late game

[fiery reef]

i am using mods but it worked just fine yesterday with the exact same mods. i also tired updating all mods and validating all game files

[sour pilot]

try disabling all mods first

[fiery reef]

k

[sour pilot]

some of them could receive an update that make it incompatible with your system or just bugged

[fiery reef]

trying rn

nope. also crashes

guess ill need to reinstall the game

installing it on another drive too

thats faster

[south sinew]

damn

here was me thinking I was smart having 2000 copper ingots per minute available for nuclear pasta

turns out... that's still just not that much pasta, probably gonna have to increase production a lot and still sloop copper powder and probably the pasta too

[timber shoal]

how do i tame a

[fathom shuttle]

Pale berries

Drop one on the ground and have one in your hand

[sharp sentinel]

I wish I'd remember where all my factories are. Like, I remember having one somewhere making something, but not where. q.q

[atomic notch]

Rip

[viral tendon]

I love trains

[viral tendon]

That's why you place train station on every factory

[atomic notch]

I made a train for the caterium that was close to my base back when i first unlocked trains now its just an interfactory train hahaha

[viral tendon]

Boutta build my first particle accelerator thinking it will be fire 🔥

[fathom shuttle]

I’m planning to use 9600/min copper ingot for my pasta

[south sinew]

is there a calculator that can include sloops/shards for some steps?

[viral tendon]

Js gotta get parts for it

[fathom shuttle]

I think it’s like 7.5/min nuclear pasta still lmao

[viral tendon]

Isn't it ingame

Just go to recipes and click on it

[fathom shuttle]

Use logistics

[viral tendon]

You can set up overclock

[fathom shuttle]

Satisfactory logistics

[south sinew]

That sets an overclock, it doesn't tell me how the overclocks/sloops impact the number of buildings I need, ingredients I need, etc

[viral tendon]

Well idk then

I just build everything step by step

Without calculating eanything before

Is that bad

[fathom shuttle]

https://satisfactory-logistics.xyz

[kind rose]

I don't plan

[south sinew]

yeah, I'm clicking through that one now, thanks. Just a bit confusing how to get it to skip parts I don't need to calculate, I tried adding inputs I've already finished but it wants to redo them anyway

[fathom shuttle]

Throw them to the side lol

[viral tendon]

HOW MUCH POWER???

[kind rose]

20 gigawats

[viral tendon]

What the fufck is this

[edgy mesa]

hello

[viral tendon]

Hi

[kind rose]

a 5 to 1 ratio and you need 200 of the 1 every 2 minutes

[viral tendon]

Turning waste into things would be painful

[kind rose]

start your 1k copper machine now

[viral tendon]

Time to do nuclear powah

[viral tendon]

WHAT THE FYCJ DO I NEED 1000 COPPER FOR

[kind rose]

haven't done that myself

[kind rose]

pasta

[viral tendon]

Ah

I'm fine without it

I like basic pasta not nuclear

[south sinew]

fuel/rocket fuel is a better choice really

[viral tendon]

Whatever

[kind rose]

I have grown to agree with this

[south sinew]

especially nitro rocket fuel

[kind rose]

it gives me someplace to put all the oil output into

[viral tendon]

Yeah i don't have rocket fuel and i'm not unlockin it

[kind rose]

how do you power your truck?

I personally use leaves

[south sinew]

even if you just use diluted fuel, 20GW from a single pure oil node is way easier than going nuclear

[viral tendon]

I odn't have diluted fuel

[south sinew]

even if you don't have diluted fuel, farming that alt and then using it is still a bit easier than going nuclear

[gilded pebble]

Of course, now I read this as I am nearing the end of construction of my 50GW nuclear plant...

[viral tendon]

I'm still going nuclear

[fathom shuttle]

Just 50GW?

[gilded pebble]

It's my first go at nuclear

[viral tendon]

What's better plutonium fuel rod or uranium

[gilded pebble]

The waste processing facility is built to handle 2x that

[kind rose]

even if you just use biomass burners its easier than going nuclear

[fathom shuttle]

Not a real question

[viral tendon]

I asked it then it means it's real

[kind rose]

fiscite but you need uranium to make plutonium

[south sinew]

it's not really either or, you make plutonium from uranium waste, so you burn uranium first, then make plutonium rod, then either you sink the rod to be waste-free or you burn the rod and store waste

[viral tendon]

Ok

[south sinew]

or just store uranium waste is also ok

[viral tendon]

Ion have that much storage

[atomic notch]

You gotta plan the storage for like a few thousand hours

[fathom shuttle]

You can build a thousand storage containers in 10 minutes lol

[kind rose]

oo make it a bp

[fathom shuttle]

You can make a 63 ISC blueprint with the mk2 designer

[atomic notch]

Ima belt my waste around the map before storing it lol

[kind rose]

irradiation

[fathom shuttle]

Nuclear waste is 500 stack so that’s storage for 1.5m nuclear waste

[gilded pebble]

At least the water will be nice and clean.

[kind rose]

is there a way to get better pipe?

[viral tendon]

What storage

[atomic notch]

Yea

[fathom shuttle]

Press R for different modes

And use the scroll wheel to angle e pipes

You can also change the height of the pipes

[open pollen]

Do you mean like shape or can hold more liquid? For the latter there is only Mk.1 and Mk.2 pipes

[kind rose]

600 fpm feels slow

[open pollen]

Ya just gotta work around it and make more pipelines if needed

It is annoying tho

[atomic notch]

Package it then. If 600 is too slow just package it

[open pollen]

But then you need to unpackage it and I’m too lazy to do that lol

[atomic notch]

Cry about it some more then

[gilded pebble]

Don't forget the first rule of government spending, why build one, when you can have two at twice the cost?

[peak wasp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832787767314087936/1390355644837662813/Screenshot_20250703_103532.png?ex=6867f519&is=6866a399&hm=1f0b2914245548e184dee3a63108e09140d4e279b153302bce74e9e9f980212d&

[south sinew]

ok, so turns out I was actually already using most of my 2000 ingots/minute anyway

[peak wasp]

is this a good layout?

[open pollen]

Just make a million pipelines and it will eventually work out

[leaden ether]

You have to start at uranium then process the waste into plutonium.

[peak wasp]

or does image not pop up..

[atomic notch]

Im movin like 2000 nitrogen with a train packager loop

[gusty lark]

Anyone know where your save file shows up in the game files?

[south sinew]

so gonna need to increase it a lot

[viral tendon]

You know that nitrgoen doesn't work like water don't you?

[atomic notch]

Water?

[viral tendon]

Or liquid whatever

[atomic notch]

Why would i transport water

[viral tendon]

It doesn't need to be packaged

[leaden ether]

I'm a fan of ROcket fuel, but Nuclear was hella fun. And while RF looks simpler on paper, it is a MASSIVE piping nightmare. 6 fluids and 2 gases. It is literally 95% piping with just a touch of iron and sulfur. So if you are not a fan of pipes... oof.

[viral tendon]

It's a gas

[white dawn]

@gusty lark ^ see above

[viral tendon]

You can build 1 million meters piline and it can go up and down every 2 meters

[gusty lark]

Thank you

[viral tendon]

It will work out fine

[sinful carbon]

did movement get updated in 1.1?

[viral tendon]

Why'd you package nitrogen 😭

[sinful carbon]

it feels like i can somehow bunnyhop and build up speed which i couldnt before lol

[rocky sierra]

is there a way to only get a few items from the dimensional cloud or do you have to get the entire stack

[viral tendon]

I tried to bunnyhop and build with mk 5 belts and balde runners

I couldn't keep up

That's the reason why turbo motors suck

[leaden ether]

Just a stack. THough after grabbing a few items you can try putting the stack back into the DD but most likely the DD was already refiling itself so a lot of the stack wil not go back in anyway :/

[south sinew]

you can complete a stack in your inventory which only pulls the missing items