satisfactory

[spiral dew]

ive been saving my sloops exclusively for space elevator materials really

[earnest mica]

Hi. I have a problem with blueprints and didnt find a definitive solution on the qa site. When i save a blueprint it creates a folder with the map name but the folder remains empty and resulting out of that the blueprints are when used an empty slot and vanish completely after reloading the save

[elder apex]

does your session name have any characters in it that would be invalid as a part of a filename/folder name? Most of the problems I've heard of with blueprints not being saved have been because of invalid characters in the session name

[earnest mica]

File is called factory 1

Just like the savegame

[elder apex]

what did you name the session when you started the play-through? Are all of its characters valid as part of a filename?

[earnest mica]

Didnt change the session name its called factory 1 since the beginning

Already tried reinstalling the game and deleting the blueprint file for the session but it keeps just creating an empty folder when i save a blueprint ingame

Also tried importing blueprints from another save but they dont show up ingame either

[static dune]

i asked earlier but went afk. blueprints, can you copy existing builds or you have to create buildings inside the blueprint sector thingy? I literally just want to copy / paste buildings as i need to move them back a bit

[elder apex]

Other than out of space issues or weird file system permissions that is the only issue I have heard about with saving blueprints.

[elder apex]

you have to make them inside the blueprint designer

[static dune]

doh! :/

[earnest mica]

I have about 12tb of space left on my drives so out of space shouldnt be an issue 😂

[glass sleet]

The plugin "Daisy Chain Everything" failed to load, pls help I don't want to uninstall the mod because I used it so much in my saves

[elder apex]

only other suggestion I have would be to put up a post in the https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1038092680493801533 area and hope that somebody else has more ideas of how to proceed

[earnest mica]

Alright. Thank you

[cloud crown]

NOTE

If you remove the mod and a building has more than its default number of connections attached, the game will allow you to attach an infinite number of connections to that building - until you've removed enough to reach the vanilla max. This is due to a bug in how Satisfactory calculates the number of free connection slots.
Apparently itll be fine

[elder apex]

except that you won't get to continue daisy chaining machines

check the modding discord to see if there are any issues or updates regarding it, i'd be surprised if there weren't as it is an extremely popular mod. #welcome message

[glass sleet]

Ok cool

I'm still getting the error with every mod I have enabled, but I'm just stuck on "KBFL failed to load", I don't know which mod this is

So far disabling and reinabling them is working, but I just need to find whatever mod this is

[vagrant knot]

did they nerf bioreactors

i remember being able to power like 10000000 things with the 2 starting bio reactors.

[dense violet]

they 'improved' them with belts

[feral jay]

Yeah I'm glad they caved on that one

[vagrant knot]

hm weird

[vagrant knot]

oh i just thought i was crazy when i noticed that belts were finnaly on bio reactors.

[dense violet]

I mean it was always easy just to slap some stacks in real quick whenever you got back to base.

[atomic notch]

Yeah feels like a whiner patch to me

[gentle cobalt]

Phase 3 complete! (Again)

[atomic notch]

Yuh

[glass sleet]

Found the issue, appearent it was a dependancy for "More swatches", so I have to disable that mod, but now if I play my world will all of my swatches be screwed up?

[feral jay]

No idea. It's not your point, but that's exactly why I don't play with those kinds of mods, everything has to be "vanilla friendly" for me

Just QoL mods mostly

[spiral dew]

hoverpack speed mod ❤️

[glass sleet]

Well I thought more swatches is pretty vinalla

[feral jay]

Yeah that would be a perfect example, there's no issue if you load without that mod

[glass sleet]

Oh I see what you mean

Well damnit, if it is screwed up I can just load a previous save to restore everything if "More swatches" ever gets updated right?

[feral jay]

I would assume so, but you probably wouldn't want to, depending on how much more work you've accomplished

[glass sleet]

Well I mean like load a save from like 2 minutes ago if loading the save without the mod messes things up

[feral jay]

Oh, yea, sure

[glass sleet]

ok cool

[feral jay]

Make a backup with a memorable name

So autosave doesn't bite you

[glass sleet]

Got it

How can I create save from the main menu

[feral jay]

heh I have no idea, I just use the operating system for that

[glass sleet]

Lmao ok

[feral jay]

Satisfactory has a "session" mechanic it groups savegame files by, so name it something totally different

I don't know the exact details of how it works

[dense violet]

rip

[feral jay]

lol that's two points for "Only use vanilla friendly mods"

hey, I just realized, I haven't collected a single paleberry this save yet

Wanted to catch a doggo or two

[glass sleet]

Well I'm in my game, and the worst thing happened. It looks fine. Now I'm just going to make 30 hours of progress until I realise that half of my world is gone

[marsh locust]

Solved it

[lucid pagoda]

why is it that my refineries fill up on heavy oil residue when im near them but if im not they run perfectly

[fathom shuttle]

If you’re using a hover pack it can mess with things

[lucid pagoda]

im not, its if i hypertube to that factory that half the refineries just start filling up

[fathom shuttle]

I’m pretty sure it cuts power off to things connected to it or something

[lucid pagoda]

ive had it run for hours whilst far awan and had no issues

[dense violet]

if you were far away how do you know there were zero issues?

[feral jay]

There's a persistent bug where some machines will cut out for a few seconds when a hoverpack connects to the citcuit they're on

[dense violet]

only if you have multiple power grids split by switches

[feral jay]

And it's only for a few seconds, it wouldn't cause HOR to build up

[lucid pagoda]

because when i go back they arent backed up, the rubber and platic belts remain consistent even if far away, i go to the factory for a solid 20 mins and everything grinds to a halt

[dense violet]

you'd have to make a qna post about the layout of everything with images

[feral jay]

It can fuck with very delicately balanced liquid feedback loops sometimes but it doesn't really affect much, I don't think this is the problem @lucid pagoda is talkin about

[dense violet]

also multiplayer? server? mods?

[lucid pagoda]

no,no, and none, ill just make a post soon

[fathom shuttle]

How do I know if my trains are gonna handle the throughput I’m pushing?

It’s 2760/min rn but I’m doing 3600/min once I unlock Mk6 belts

[feral jay]

Complex mathematics and a stopwatch

[fathom shuttle]

Fr?

[feral jay]

The stations will also tell you what the average throughput rate is

I think the effeciancy checker mod actually accounts for the throughput rate reported by stations too

[dense violet]

there's formulae on the wiki
generally 1 belt per platform is ok until mk6 belts. I'd do 2 platforms then

but depends a lot on total trip time

[feral jay]

But... but... complex mathematics is more fun!

[dense violet]

and if you're doing silly things

[dense violet]

eh, trying to push throughput limits often means weird numbers getting delivered to platforms that will probably not mesh with how much you want to process on the other end

[spiral dew]

trying to decide how crazy i want to go with a Rocket Fuel factory

[dense violet]

zero rocket fuel pm

[spiral dew]

think i really want rocket fuel just for drones then focus on nuclear/plutonium

turbo fuel would probably be just fine though

adding nitric acid to the mix sounds a lil annoying atm

[dense violet]

yeah tf is fine for drones, and then you can power them with p rods later

and nuclear is very simple, plus each nuclear gen is 10x a fuel

[spiral dew]

wait

you can power drones with p rods?

[dense violet]

yup. with no waste

[spiral dew]

thats amazing lmao

[feral jay]

You can power all the vehicles with them

[dense violet]

yeah it's pretty dumb xD

1x p rod powers a truck for like 7hrs

assuming constant acceleration

[spiral dew]

i haven't really bothered any truck transport, sounds fun but clunky

[dense violet]

you have to choose your terrain and how you build

[feral jay]

Yes, trucks are evil

[dense violet]

trucks themselves requires very little ifnrastructure but you do have to plan your set up around them.

[feral jay]

I very rarely use them

[weary perch]

whats the conveyor input for the power augmenter?

[sharp sentinel]

I have a single truck, and it alone was so much work because I had to raise a bunch of hypertubes so it could run.

[lucid pagoda]

late game stuff

[feral jay]

Overdrive!

[weary perch]

yes how do i make it do that

i'm very late game i want more power

[lucid pagoda]

very late game

oh, alien power augmenter

in the alien technology research tree

[weary perch]

feed it shards? i tried sloops

[lucid pagoda]

its a seperate item

[feral jay]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Alien_Power_Augmenter

||Feed it alien power matrices||

[lucid pagoda]

go to mam, alien technology, and research alien power matrix

[weary perch]

fuck so much comes back to this godforsaked singularity cell

:(

[feral jay]

And here I am, having just unlocked smart splitters...

[weary perch]

whelp i just got OC supercomputers which means i can actually complete phase 4 within this year so i better get crackin

[sharp sentinel]

I am now 2 hours past my previous 1.0 save, and setup to be doing way better than I have before. Going to have to spend tomorrow working on rerouting some stuff so that some of my turbo fuel is shipping out a bit to a nitrogen source. For 1,200m away should I do drone or train?

[lucid pagoda]

how much nitrogen?

[sharp sentinel]

Should I ship the nitrogen or ship the turbo-fuel?

[atomic notch]

Nitrogen

[lucid pagoda]

nitrogen

[atomic notch]

It compresses more

[sharp sentinel]

I'm producing the turbo fuel at Beach Islands, and I suspect the nitrogen is in Western Dune Forest or Red Jungle. I'll probably ship a decent amount so I can automate some uploading of rocket fuel for anything I may want it for.

[atomic notch]

Straight north

If ur at the beach islands i think youre at

[lucid pagoda]

prolly train, imo train is easier but it depends on infrastructure

[sharp sentinel]

I am literally at the location on the map called Beach Islands, friend.

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Map

[weary perch]

my base is in grassy feilds, or more accurately my base IS grassy feilds, and i just ship from blue crater

[sharp sentinel]

Using the biome map here.

[weary perch]

does blue crater have more oil than sandy islands?

[sharp sentinel]

It's a mixed bag thing. Blue Crater has oil alongside some other resources useful for enriching the oil into fuel, and then other types of fuel. Whereas the islands have very little obstructing construction and easier access with far more oil.

I have fuel generators running at both locations, and really need to swing back over to swap my Blue Crater setup to turbo-fuel but it's sooo much work.

[atomic notch]

Womp womp

[sharp sentinel]

Might give myself a little treat and just work on building a super coal generator setup at Crater Lakes.

It's so easy that my ADHD loves it.

[weary perch]

make steel

it's also easy

i personally use coke for my oil but coal is good too

[atomic notch]

Pet coke coal plant goes so hard

[sharp sentinel]

I'm at the stage where I'm trying to make rocket fuel, I am far beyond steel right now.

[weary perch]

...are you running your world on fuel?

[sharp sentinel]

Fuel, coal, uranium. I loooove power stuff.

[atomic notch]

Obv bro said tutbofuel

[weary perch]

i'm like 95% nuclear

i barely make any fuel anymore

[sharp sentinel]

I even have a few little pet coal generator setups because they're just fun to do.

[weary perch]

i just make a lil packaged rocket fuel for my jetpack

[sharp sentinel]

Missing out. Some spots are just made for doing fuel generators like the islands. More power is always fun.

[weary perch]

i cant hope to make enough fuel from the oil to actually put a dent in my power demands

[sharp sentinel]

I never have to stop and worry about power, because I am always making 2x what I need.

[weary perch]

or at least not without actually crying from how much building

i'm making "3x" what i need, but my max cons scare me

[atomic notch]

Im gonna be makin fuel there but its turnin into plastic and rubber

[weary perch]

my max cons are like 70GW, but i only use 20, i'm scared someday i'll pick something off a conveyor belt and set that 70gw into motion and not know how to stop it

[sharp sentinel]

I actually have some factories on the beach making rubber and plastic that I literally just feed to a SINK because I might need them later.

It's doing wonders just staying prepared. My old save I would get rid of factories I wasn't using and then regret it later.

[atomic notch]

Well i wish i could split it but its all goin in the hole

[sharp sentinel]

My entire factory run around starts in Grass Fields and then kinda just runs over the entire souith part of the map.

I have two trains running, a truck, and two drones so far.

[weary perch]

i NEVER shut down a factory, unless it's using raw stuff i need for a better one, i just leave what's working working. i never ever ever could possibly predict the horrors that may occur if i disconnect ANYTHING

[atomic notch]

I got 13 trains

[tranquil hemlock]

Am I allowed to post a specific screenshot of something I'm asking for help with in this channel?

[weary perch]

i might cut one bauxite mine and turns out i just knocked out my entire advanced production

[atomic notch]

At least in one base theres a few others scattered around

[sharp sentinel]

You can't post screenshots in here at all, it won't let you. I suggest making a thread in #1038092680493801533 .

[tranquil hemlock]

Okie dokie, thanks

[feral jay]

Me neither. All factories run all the time, and excess is sunk for tickets.

[sharp sentinel]

I hand-crafted sooo much stuff in my old save.

Pretty sure I hand-crafted all frames I used.

[feral jay]

You're fired.

[sharp sentinel]

The fact I made it to nuclear power in 80 hours is a wonder.

[atomic notch]

Cool

[sharp sentinel]

Meanwhile I am at 94 in this one, and everything is going quite nicely. Probably about to do an insane amount of drones.

[atomic notch]

Cool

[feral jay]

But I'm handcrafting a thousand or so caterium ingots as we speak because I want AI limiters

[sharp sentinel]

Imagine not having redone conveyors so much you have thousands of random ingots stuck in your DD from your inventory...

[feral jay]

Well, what I really want is to sink excess factory production for tickets. For that, I need smart splitter. For smart splitters, I need AI limiters, and for AI limiters I need a boatload of quickwire, so here I sit handrafting thousadns of caterium ingots.

[dense violet]

constructors??

[sharp sentinel]

How do you not have a quickwire factory? It's so important lategame.

[feral jay]

It's the next thing I'm automating

[sharp sentinel]

I think I had quickwire automated before I even actually needed it.

[feral jay]

I'm just at the point where I start laying out my multi-circuit power poles and establising a complex power infrastructure so I want to get that in place before expanding outwards much more

[sharp sentinel]

I did the reach max world height achievement today. I didn't think it was that low, could have sworn I'd seen a YT video of a guy inside the Space Elevator.

[feral jay]

That's on my list too, I'm gonna go up there and set up a uranium->sink ticket generator

Uranium is really good for early game sink points

[sharp sentinel]

I have sinks all over the place. i just kinda screw around and oh hey some tickets.

[feral jay]

I have a seperate worldwide power circuit for sinks

[sharp sentinel]

Not to mention the alien DNA slooping. If I hated myself I could even sloop the protein itself, but that's just too much effort for a renewable resource.

[feral jay]

Well not this save yet

If I shut off all the sinks, the factories gradually all fill up, it takes power requirements WAY down after a couple of hours

[white dawn]

Slooping the protein's just an extra four sloops, not too bad

[sharp sentinel]

I've been considering setting up remote factories off my power-grid that only use geothermal power so I never have to see it.

[feral jay]

Geothermal power also gets its own circuit, I use it as a backup power source

[sharp sentinel]

After my last save I don't ever want it connected to my main grid. I hate seeing it jump all over the place.

[feral jay]

ooh nice the gardner's toolkit mod still works with 1.1

[hollow vector]

mew

[feral jay]

I blow up every gas plant I see but I don't like how it destroys the foliage

[white dawn]

Then again, if you hook it all into your grid it'll generally mostly even out and wouldn't wobble too much

And if you then build out the rest of your power sufficiently you may not even see the wobble!

[hollow vector]

i hate mods
they always break or go out of support
and when i try betas they never support it

[white dawn]

That or hook them up in pairs and exactly offset their cycles.

[sharp sentinel]

Only seven achievements left. This might be on of the handful of games I 100%. I love it enough for sure.

[feral jay]

I only use mods where I can load the game without them and have it not affect the save

[sharp sentinel]

I don't hate myself enough.

[hollow vector]

is concrete usable to ethically silent the pioneers talking about satisfactory in offtopicgeneral?

[feral jay]

It's like three-phase power, kinda sorta like in a way, you gotta sync the phases

[feral jay]

Wait 'till you find out that trains have regenerative braking and introduce a similar (albeit much smaller) wobble

[hollow vector]

cant wait to make a nuclear powerplant for my 1 train network because "the wobble is too much"

[atomic notch]

Just make enough power that the line seems flat

[feral jay]

OMG THEY PUT AN ORIENTATION ARROW ON THE SIGNS!

Guys

This is huge

[atomic notch]

Is that like a design thing?

I wouldnt know

[feral jay]

There's a bug in the game, signs will rotate randomly when you select them, so you'll put them upside down a lot

Super annoying

You didn't know if it was right side up or upside down before 1.1

[sharp sentinel]

I have found a deep appreciation for the orientation arrow on blueprints. I made a power tower blueprint and not having to redo the whole thing because it faced the wrong way was silly.

But also they don't snap to the ground at all, so I kinda needed them with a foundation anyway.

[weak beacon]

danget, i dont know when, but they changed how having only 1 biomass generator on a circuit as the only power source, and only a 75% power usage on it, if it runs out of fuel, it didnt used to blow a fuze and would just die. now it does. was trying to get new fear unlocked to be the last achievement i earned :*(

[lament niche]

red forest, ye

[eager tartan]

Any tips on how to get coupons early game in satisfactory

[lament niche]

sink things

[eager tartan]

Idk what resources to dump and which ones to keep

[bitter lodge]

Alien protein

[eager tartan]

How do I get alien protein

[bitter lodge]

kill creatures, somersloop in a constructor.

[eager tartan]

Like scaled up, I find like few aliens

[lament niche]

not renewable

[bitter lodge]

if you want renewable

uh...early game. Best would probably be modular frames?

[eager tartan]

Not me at like reinfirced iron plates level ;-;

[lament niche]

ur almost there then

[bitter lodge]

next level is modular frames....

[eager tartan]

Is there any point sinking stuff like extra wires or iron rods type

[lament niche]

yes

[bitter lodge]

it helps keep production from backing up depending on how its set up

everything in the awesome shop is purely cosmetic :) so I wouldn't stress it to much

[eager tartan]

I want like

[lament niche]

wat

[eager tartan]

The conveyer belt thru walls and electricity wall outlet things

[dense violet]

not everything >.> ladders, pipe supports things like that are all practical

[bitter lodge]

not needed :P

[lament niche]

ye azana mispoke, there's lots of noncosmetic stuff

[bitter lodge]

its still cosmetic in my opinion

[lament niche]

nope

[bitter lodge]

Ladders don't help produce anything

[dense violet]

it's very practical for usage completely ignoring how it 'looks'

[bitter lodge]

pipe supports don't help produce anything

[lament niche]

wat

[dense violet]

having poles everywhere is very inconvenient

[sterile blade]

If it doesn't factory and it's not factory-shaped...

[bitter lodge]

awesomeshop is just cosmetic shop

[dense violet]

this server has a lot of people with extremely bad takes. This is one of them

[bitter lodge]

Nothing you purchase from it functions in anyway to help a factory produce anything.

[lament niche]

"if it's not directly a part producing building it's just cosmetic"

[bitter lodge]

I say this, and bought everything from that shop

[reef basin]

I mean... it doesn't really help with production indeed

[bitter lodge]

That is exactly what a cosmetic is....

[lament niche]

I say this, and bought everything from the shop, and have played since U3: you're up in the night

[sterile blade]

Either it makes parts or move parts, else it's cosmetic ^^

[bitter lodge]

LMAO

Like i use awesome shop stuff cause I want my factory pretty :)

but again, "pretty" not productive. Hence I use awesome shop to do that

[lament niche]

20 node power connectors aren't just "cosmetic" lmao

[dense violet]

not everything that isn't directly production related is only aesthetic. And you could easily argue you need pipe wall supports to manage flow. For Production.

[bitter lodge]

but it is

[lament niche]

it is not. Show me what other building can support 20 power lines.

[bitter lodge]

what is the difference between 20 poles standing along my wall vs the nubs being imbedded in the wall?
One looks pretty :>

[lament niche]

*One is more practical

[bitter lodge]

20 power lines?

[bitter lodge]

isn't that like mk3 power lines or something?

[lament niche]

mk3 double wall connector.

[bitter lodge]

are you comparing the mk3 power poles to literally the power nubs that connect directly to the wall?

That is just putting two power poles on either side of the wall?

again, same thing. but one is pretty aka cosmetic?

[lament niche]

the power connectors literally have double the connections of standard poles

that stops being cosmetic and starts being functional lmao

[bitter lodge]

but two power poles is the same as 2 power nubs?

same thing, one looks better

[lament niche]

Your inability to understand is not an argument against something

[atomic notch]

Real

[bitter lodge]

You are stating that this one item with 2 power connections that allows 20 connections total is not the same thing as 2 seperate power poles also providing 20 connections

[lament niche]

1 double wall connector is cheaper than 2 power poles.

[bitter lodge]

literally get the same result in the damn end

[dense violet]

what if it's not the wall they're along, what if it's a foot path? blocking movement?

[bitter lodge]

build around it?

[lament niche]

^^^

[dense violet]

sockets on beams to keep cabling manageble and out of the way

[lament niche]

Azana is just trolling at this point

[bitter lodge]

truly not

[dense violet]

oh, you mean a practical function?

[bitter lodge]

but I also can't relate fully to this point cause I have power needed turned off.

[dense violet]

something to avoid having ot build around things? That's practical

[bitter lodge]

place your power pole a nudge to the side?

[dense violet]

or have a more practical option

especially if you don't have that space to do that with

[atomic notch]

Hoverpack over power poles ez. Skill issue

[bitter lodge]

if you lack the space for a pole...im impressed considering that poles literally fit between machines

[dense violet]

being able to put sockets on walls and ceilings is very practical.

can there be an aesthtic component to it ? sure. But they aren't mutually exclusive

[bitter lodge]

practical wise.

[lament niche]

^

[reef basin]

I mean it's still something that isn't required for normal gameplay

[bitter lodge]

they are higher up and no pole

but if a pole is what make or breaks it for you...ok. like how

[dense violet]

it's a sand box. Normal game play could be poking space pigs with sticks all day

[lament niche]

^

[feral jay]

Aesthetics can be very practical. It's difficult to see where things go and where they break if it's all a giant noodly mess

[reef basin]

by "normal gameplay" I mean "progressing through the tiers to finish last phase"

[dense violet]

t1-19 Pig Poking Simulator 2025

[lament niche]

voluntary =/= aesthetics only

[reef basin]

(and I'm not saying it's not useful, I'm saying it's not required)

[feral jay]

I have a pretty hard self-imposed no clipping rule for that reason

[dense violet]

yeah but with that argument belts aren't required

just very useful

[lament niche]

^^^

[atomic notch]

Same but if it saves countless hours im def just gonna clip it

[cloud crown]

What is required for a satisfactory run but conveyor belts and machines

[reef basin]

belts are "more required" in the sense that they are not reasonably replaceable with anything else

[dense violet]

not belts. Pipes yes though

[lament niche]

man power

[reef basin]

reasonably

[lament niche]

dedicated server

[dense violet]

I've seen the world and it's situation. People aren't reasonable 😛

[lament niche]

^

[feral jay]

Hooked up my first proper sink to my basic iron/steel parts factory #screenshots message

[lament niche]

gratz

[tranquil hemlock]

Tries to test my new smart storage system before expanding it
Loads up resource it's not programmed for yet
"Why is it being held up?!"

[cloud crown]

1984...

[lament niche]

politics in muh satisfactory channel?

Nope, gonna dip

[feral jay]

Oh hey @reef basin, any plans to update Tools for 1.1, or are you doing a new one? Or does it even need to be updated and it's fine as is?

[reef basin]

well game is about building machines, connecting them with belts and pipes, power poles with power lines and make stuff

for that you don't really need double wall thingy mk3, because you can use normal poles

(and yes, you can use the shop things and it definitely improves both visuals and practicality, but it's imo still not that important to be necessarily used)

[cloud crown]

Someone is going to write about that Asian place China doesn't like

[reef basin]

afaik 1.1 didn't introduce any changes, so I didn't update much

[feral jay]

Cool, I haven't gotten far enough in woith 1.1 yet to notice any major recipe changes

And thanks for the work on that, I use it all the time

[south kindle]

I'm new. Is coal a thing? Not a fan of wind power so far

(yes i mod I love solar)

[reef basin]

there's no wind power in Satisfactory 🤔

[feral jay]

uh, there is no wind power?

[reef basin]

and if you're new to the game, I'd heavily recommend finishing the game without mods first

[south kindle]

no, I'm doing this to build a play ground

and I like solar

[feral jay]

I just figure there is wind at all on Massage-2(A-B)b, and that's why there's no wind power

[reef basin]

solar/wind sounds like something that will throw off the balance of the game

[south kindle]

oh god more math

[feral jay]

But a planet without wind a tough one as far as suspension of disbelief goes

And that, yeah, it would basically be free power, and, there's already plenty of power mechanics, it just wouldn't add anything of value to the game

[south kindle]

I started in the plains I just need to automate pwoer and get my first factory built to a level i like

[cloud crown]

It would be horribly inefficient ficsit wouldn't allow it

[lament niche]

no solar panels lmao

[south kindle]

and yes it does that's why I like solar irl and in game

[feral jay]

It would really throw off the balance - it's free power.

[lament niche]

minecraft factory mods: exist

[south kindle]

I'm not here to fuck up the world via climate change I'm here to optimize production

[cloud crown]

In exchange for free power each conveyor belts uses 1 power...

[feral jay]

Well yeah, mod it up all you want, I just don't think it should be added to the game

[south kindle]

Coffee stain studios may hate nature but i don't

according to the dwarves at least

[dense violet]

There’s no pollution, resources are infinite

[leaden ether]

Heh, people already complain about the geothermal power variability, imagine wind :D I think it might actually be worthy because you would likely really need to pair a power storage system along with the wind turbines to provide a constant power output. That would provide a bit of unique gameplay. Same with solar. However it's not like there is not already a ton of power source options and yeah it would probably just be piling on.

[feral jay]

It's not nature, it's a video game. You're supposed to feel bad about destroying everything in sight

[south kindle]

there is pollution lol

[dense violet]

There is not

[south kindle]

I thought that was a seirous problem late game

[feral jay]

What the game really needs is a way to dump fluids into the ocean, so I can poison the waters with nitric acid and heavy oil residue

Just for kicks

[south kindle]

of course

[dense violet]

No
You’re very confident about being wrong

[leaden turret]

fish have already been killed off by the time we land

[feral jay]

That's the best way to be wrong

[south kindle]

Yes that's how confidence works

[cloud crown]

If the game got contaminated as you played that would be so great
As the planet becomes more toxic more spiders appear

[south kindle]

so smart people can correct me

[dense violet]

No, you can be confident about actually proficient about things

[dense violet]

Or block you

[feral jay]

Good luck with that, we all just think we're smart in here

[dense violet]

and save time

[cloud crown]

Talk about yourself, I know I'm a moron

[leaden turret]

the only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing

[south kindle]

Smart enough to enjoy it dumb enough to be frusterated

[atomic notch]

Bros thinkin about factorio

[feral jay]

Look at you, takin' credit for a three thousand year old adage...

[south kindle]

only if I'm rude, usally

[leaden turret]

is literal discord syntax quote, not taking credit

[atomic notch]

Or insufferable

[cloud crown]

And he says he knows nothing...

[feral jay]

Discord? That was Confucus...

Or am I not following

[leaden turret]

certainly not leading 🥁

ancient wisdom say "many hands make light work"

ficsit say "many amps make light work"

[south kindle]

🙄

[feral jay]

Many amps make light explode. I know, because I know nothing.

[leaden turret]

if you make light explode, not very bright 🥁

[feral jay]

Dude yer killing it with the puns today

I award you fifteen Internet points

[south kindle]

Modding is the pathway to many abilties some would consider to be unnatural.

[leaden turret]

[insert fallout 4 cbbe joke]

[cloud crown]

Like the 20 fuel engine blueprint

[feral jay]

Blueprints are cheating

[leaden turret]

no blueprints here, only blue prince

[smoky forge]

excuse me?

[cloud crown]

Hot take

[feral jay]

(I cheat)

[dense violet]

the brightness is just condensed over a very short period of time

[smoky forge]

i just built 700 fuel generators only with a small blueprint i made myselfe and you telling me there is a 20 generator blueprint

[atomic notch]

You gotta use mods which means ur bad

[cloud crown]

I believe so? Last I heard there was a blueprint with like 20 clipped on top of each other

[atomic notch]

At leat one that gives you mega bleuprints

[dense violet]

I mean , building 700 fuel gens that's your own pain 😛

[south kindle]

Cofee Stain should've included solar, I'm just here to ficsit.

[leaden turret]

solar energy exists.

is called biomass

[feral jay]

By that logic, oil is also solar

[south kindle]

trees take decades to grow back though, there's only so much power on the planet

[feral jay]

Hydro generation would be cool, there'd be a limited number of places you could build it

But meh, geothermal serves that purpuse

[cloud crown]

By that logic you are part sun

[dense violet]

needed the sun to make it!

solar byproduct

[leaden turret]

we are made of star stuff
~ Carl Sagan

[compact python]

Renewable energy sources are just too OP to be added

[feral jay]

Go back enough billions of years and everything is a solar byproduct

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=dam

[compact python]

You could build a thousand solar panels with batteries and have free power

[dense violet]

hmmm uranium is more of an explosion thing. not actual light power

[leaden acorn]

Speaking of trees, is there a way for trees to grow back? Cause it occurred to me that if you cut down every tree and bush in the game world, and they don't grow back, it's actually possible for a save to run out of biomass to use.

[dense violet]

Uranium is gravity power

[cloud crown]

Go back enough into our production lines and you find plants being fertilized with shit

[leaden turret]

creatures respawn, can be turned into biomass

[south kindle]

Dam those are some nice buildings

[feral jay]

Uranium is a product of neutron star mergers, thereby also a solar byproduct

[leaden turret]

only way for trees to grow back is for world team to make a whoopsie

[compact python]

Without mods no

[dense violet]

but solar power is specifically the electricity emmited from the light

[feral jay]

If you really wnat to grow them back, look at the gardner's toolit mod

[leaden turret]

nuu, solar power is power derived from solar sources.

everyone always thinks only of photovoltaics and forgets molten solar.

[feral jay]

Whoops replied to the wrong person

[south kindle]

I did for my eventual rooftop garden

interesting how it added soil plots to gather from

[leaden turret]

(there's also solar heating that is misclassified as geothermal)

[atomic notch]

You can in the save editor iirc

[leaden acorn]

Does this mod let you place trees anywhere?

[feral jay]

No, just put them back when you've destroyed them

[leaden acorn]

Dang. I was thinking I could build a tree farm.

[feral jay]

Some farming ability would be cool, it would be neat to plant paleberry and nut farms

[leaden turret]

fertiliser from lizard doggo poop is where the "butthole or cloaca" question came from

[leaden acorn]

Not because a give a shit about the trees, mind you. But because I don't wanna run out of trees to exploit.

[atomic notch]

Hmm

[feral jay]

Fertilizer from the toilet would be funnier

[atomic notch]

A good question indeed

[feral jay]

You won't

But yeah that mod has a "RegrowAllFlora" command

Or something like that

I use it because I blow up every fart rock and gas tree I see but I don't like the bare patch of ground that leaves

[leaden acorn]

Besides, if I loae all the really tall trees, I won't be able to use my grappling hook on them, which means no more swinging around like Spider-Man.

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=cityscape

[atomic notch]

I have an absurd amount of biofuel stored and i barely touched the flora theres still so much

[feral jay]

I was approaching a million on my last save

1.5 maybe? I can't recall

It was nuts

[atomic notch]

Thats an overly absurd amount

[feral jay]

I wanted to build a giant bioburner-shaped bioburner facility on Paradise Island that would function as a backup generator but I burned out and now 1.1 is out so I'm starting from scratch

[atomic notch]

I just been sloopin alien remains

[feral jay]

Yup it's like 8X or 16X the biofuel

It starts adding up

[atomic notch]

I had all the biomass goin in now its just remains and leaves

Wood and mycelia got sent to the trash processing

[leaden acorn]

Also, can you still use trains or something else to get under the map without dying from the void killbox?

[dense violet]

if you build above the kill box, sure

[feral jay]

Aw crap, my bioburners are kicking in

[feral jay]

aaaaaand power failure

[leaden turret]

no such thing as power failure, only planning failure

[feral jay]

Yes, this was a planning failure

I thought I could repipe my sole coal generator plant before they ran out of water

I was wrong

[leaden turret]

you don't portion off some of your coal plant to power itself?

[feral jay]

Nope, I shot from the hip on this one

Batteries woulda solved it too

I have plenty of strategic reserves of biofule though

[reef basin]

*power storage 😛

[feral jay]

yes power storage

That looks like batteries

[reef basin]

and don't function like batteries 😉

[feral jay]

They store power, that's close enough, they're "batteries"

[reef basin]

they are either accumulators or capacitors

[smoky forge]

more capacitors

[feral jay]

All capacitors are batteries, not all batteries are capacitors

[reef basin]

I wouldn't say that's true

[hollow needle]

Steeled Frame or Solid Steel Ingot recipe?

[feral jay]

Your point is valid though, "battery" is a different thing in this game

[reef basin]

which one do you like/want more?

[reef basin]

at least based on tons of articles I've seen, "battery" and "capacitor" are different things (I'm not native english speaker though)

[hollow needle]

Idk I was kinda looking for the rotor recipe without screws

[reef basin]

the expensive one? 🙂

but really - pick any that you like (or reroll or keep them unpicked), it's really up to you. You can get all recipes anyway and there's no "better" or "worse" in general (though you may have your own personal preferences, which most likely won't align with preferences of other players)

[vagrant knot]

we should have farming

like farming of the nuts & berries

[reef basin]

nah, that's for mods, not base game

[feral jay]

I'm not sure of the technical difference myself either and I'm a native speaker

Capacitors release energy much quicker, store much less, and only ever function one way

[reef basin]

the google search AI says that capacitors are not batteries (though yeah it's AI so it can be whatever)

most articles describe differences between batteries and capacitors, which implies they are different

[feral jay]

Well we know that much...

Ah, "explain to me in layman's terms the difference between a battery and a capacitor", that worked

Capacitors store energy as an electric field, batteries store it chemically

[reef basin]

and capacitors allow for fast discharges

(which we have ingame 😛 )

[feral jay]

Yeah almost instant, I know that much from fucking with CRT TVs

I always thought of power storages of much more of a mechanical device

Like they store power by coiling a complex spring

WHich I suppose would make them neither

[hard ivy]

Power storage looks more like a flywheel to me

[feral jay]

Well a flywheel operates under the same principle, it stores rotational energy

[reef basin]

flywheel won't be lossless 🤔

(well nothing would be, but flywheel would be "less lossless")

[feral jay]

(I know all about flywheels because I just replaced my car's clutch, and the flywheel)

[hard ivy]

Considering the wires in this game apparently are lossless, a flywheel could, in fact, be lossless as well

[reef basin]

well while wires are lossless (electrical current doesn't discharge), we don't have lossless momentum (so there's air pressure and such, which would slow down the flywheel, as it's not in vacuum)

[feral jay]

I suppose if superconductivity is possible, then so is perpetual motion

[hard ivy]

Who said there's air in the enclosure?

We have particle accelerators, which definitely require a vacuum inside

Why not power storage too?

[feral jay]

GTFO with "vacuum"

Not possible

:p

[tranquil maple]

God this game has infected me so much that when I see the actual S thing that the loop is based off of my mind immediately jumps to "hey why is there somersloop graffiti in this alley?"

[shy mulch]

If we are talking about alternative ideas for power storage, I think hydro storage would be the most interesting to me. I don't know about the rest of the world, but around where I am it is quite a common method of power storage. Excess power is used to pump large amounts of water (entire lakes) up hill, and when extra power is needed, let the water flow back down and power turbines

[leaden turret]

would require flooding crater lakes from the green valley basin, probably

[feral jay]

It is here too (Canada) but it wouldn't work in Satisfactory. The water level is a constant.

[shy mulch]

Doesn't need to be constant. It just is.

[dense violet]

there's a lot of good ideas of using large weights stacked just for hte potential energy

[fathom shuttle]

How many drones can you power off 300/min oil?

[feral jay]

umpteen gazillion

[fathom shuttle]

Fr?

It’s 1200/min rocket fuel

[feral jay]

It just depends on which recipes you're using, but 300/min oil will power a worldwide network

[reef basin]

depends on recipes you use, which fuel you make, and what route do the drones take

[fathom shuttle]

Nitro rocket fuel and diluted fuel

[reef basin]

can't really be accurately estimated, you need to build the route and see how much it uses

[fathom shuttle]

Ill just build a small factory for packaged rocket fuel for my use and drones

1200/min packaged will eat up a lot of aluminum tho

At least I think so

Yea 1200/min ingots 💀

[dense violet]

turbo fuel is good enough for drones until you do plutonium rods

[feral jay]

There we go, fixed I think

[graceful idol]

Guys, i wanna help with translating the game. How can I do that?

[feral jay]

Could be better but this look like it will stabilize #screenshots message

Dunno if they're looking for translators atm

#open-a-ticket would be the place to go

[graceful idol]

Only 50% of persian is done. I live in iran so i can help with translating the remaining 50% of Persian

[feral jay]

But of course, you can only translate this game if you know how to weave a window's tapestry

You need to know why the temple-gifts are desecrated, understand the curves in the lines, and how the effegies flow.

[reef basin]

#open-a-ticket message

read the message (don't actually open a ticket)

[feral jay]

Unless of course you no longer perform at your maker-temple.

[graceful idol]

Bruh 😂 I have seen mind blowing dialogs in the game, and I will definitely have problems with translating them. But I can help with translating simpler sentences

[graceful idol]

Thank you. I submitted my request

[fathom shuttle]

So 1200/min rocket fuel can sustain like 300 drones flying from one end of the map to the other

Should be way, way more than I’ll ever use lol

[loud leaf]

is there a way to place walls diagonally

[fathom shuttle]

No

wtf is that username

[loud leaf]

wdym

[loud leaf]

is there a mod for it or something?

[dense violet]

put foundations or beams or other objects on a diagnoal

[fathom shuttle]

It will be very slow

[dense violet]

you can spin and turn foundations very quickly

there's several methods for it

[dense violet]

go into youtube and search something like foundation, angle, barrier, satisfactory

[loud leaf]

okay

[loud leaf]

can i make foundations i place automatically painted?

[arctic swallow]

yes

[dense violet]

you can change default colour in swatches

[arctic swallow]

when you hover over the swatches right click them

[dense violet]

you can also hold E when placing foundations to bring up the radial menu, then right click to change the skin

[loud leaf]

thanks

[marble girder]

Is there any way to increase the distance at which materials become reflective? Like an Unreal Engine setting or something. It's really annoying that chrome finish pops in just a few refineries away.

[tranquil hemlock]

Me looking at the pain in the rear that a decent motor factory is gunna be like; "Whelp, time to find the space"

[leaden turret]

build up

[tranquil hemlock]

That's what I do, still a pain though XD Even with alt recipes, it's a big project

[tall blaze]

wouldnt that be ugly though

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=tower AND architecture

[tall blaze]

woah

[obsidian zodiac]

not if you use our wide variety of architectural pieces to create the factory of your dreams ™

[tall blaze]

somebody built the Eiffel tower?! 😭

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac when we gonna get the traditional smile emote?

[obsidian zodiac]

im not sure who makes these and i feel weird making an emote of myself. sooooooo who knows

[leaden turret]

ask @void gorge ? 😛

[obsidian zodiac]

he has been enjoying photoshop recently..

[leaden turret]

he can shoop you an emote then

[eager tartan]

If one of yall could answer wld be much appreciated #design-and-architecture message

[tall blaze]

i found something to use as inspiration, thanks

[obsidian zodiac]

i think satisfactory modeler might be good for this? just watched a Gaming with Doc short about that

[fathom shuttle]

Get 5x5 blueprints and start spamming

[lost wagon]

Yea modeler you can do that, tools do it automatically using allegedly the most efficient production line, but the flowchart it makes can be confusing as shit when it's big projects

So what I do is usually use tools and then just copypaste the line in modeler where my eyes won't bleed

Now if you want to plan specifically the machines locations and belts and all that, the modeler can't do, there was a website that could but I forgot which

Found it
https://autumnfallstudios.itch.io/salt

[green fiber]

Good old SalT

...Is that even up to date

[dense violet]

There’s another program that lets you quickly test layouts with a special feature that it auto builds in game after.

It’s called satisfactory 😛

[crude canyon]

it's not exactly that, but it is one of the best solutions

[lost wagon]

Modeler can do that if you limit all machines to just 1, but that would take extra long to plan

[lost wagon]

Turns out first person view is dogshit for planning, who knew

[ripe basin]

Since when batteries require alumina solution

[leaden turret]

Update 4

[bold python]

anyone else super confused about how some of the Alt recipes work?

[south sinew]

no

what's confusing about it?

[tranquil hemlock]

A Mk.II miner on pure node is 240 per minute, right? And same for the Mk.III belts?

[south sinew]

mk3 is actually 270 per minute for some reason

but yeah, a mk2 miner on pure node is handled by a mk3 belt

[arctic swallow]

?

[tranquil hemlock]

Odd, but I'll take it XD Thanks

[south sinew]

but you'll need mk4 belt if you want to power shard that miner

[tranquil hemlock]

XD No need for that right now, thankfully XD Just setting up a motor blueprint

[bold python]

Electrode circuit board for example

Rubber and Coke makes a circuit board??? literally how

[arctic swallow]

they just give you sometimes easier or more cheap recipe

[tranquil hemlock]

Just roll with it XD

[leaden turret]

carbon traces on rubber board

[bold python]

I get that, but how does that make a circuit board????

[arctic swallow]

it is the same as how caterium can make copper wire

[south sinew]

and iron too

[lost wagon]

That's what an engineer do with rubber and a trail of coke

[south sinew]

the alt recipes don't have lore on how they work, it's a gameplay-first situation

[leaden turret]

they don't make copper wire, they make wire

[bold python]

ptrior to this, mine just went to a sink

[arctic swallow]

that looks the same as wire made from copper

[ripe basin]

Steel pipes from iron

[arctic swallow]

you can't get the same thing using two difrent things

[tranquil hemlock]

Logic is overrated

[leaden turret]

where does the blue plastic tub come from for screws

[lost wagon]

Because having copies of the same item with different icon is stupid and wasteful

[arctic swallow]

it is iron

[ripe basin]

It is plastic

[arctic swallow]

no

[ripe basin]

I can tell the difference

[leaden turret]

explain the blue

[ripe basin]

Plastic is blue

[arctic swallow]

nope you can't sorce: me

[ripe basin]

Iron is silver-ish

[lost wagon]

Clearly the iron came with paint, premium iron

[arctic swallow]

you can use lasers to color metal

i am not joking you can color iron with lasers

[lost wagon]

Instead of using the iron for more screws they mad a stupid useless box

[leaden turret]

box not useless.

it keeps the screws from rolling in place on the conveyor belt

[tranquil hemlock]

Loose screws roll everywhere. Take it from someone who worked in manufacturing

[lost wagon]

Not having adhesive belt smh my head

[arctic swallow]

"Color laser marking is a process that works by regulating the laser’s refraction index, forming a transparent or semi-transparent oxide film."

[leaden turret]

where's the laser parts in the building ingredients? 😛

[oak sorrel]

yo was good gang

is there a way to make a conv belt to sort to item when im in phase 1?

[arctic swallow]

almost every machine has somekind of welder maybe there use laser melder/cutter and can change the current and voltage

[fresh wharf]

I just realized I can use somersloop on power slugs to make double the power shards

[ripe basin]

No

[oak sorrel]

damn

[ripe basin]

Wait

[fresh wharf]

Find caterium and research smart splitter

[ripe basin]

Actually, yes

[oak sorrel]

sry for my poor knowledge whats caterium?

[arctic swallow]

yellow copper

[ripe basin]

Gold-like mineral

[oak sorrel]

oh

thanks!

[fresh wharf]

Go find some caterium ore in the wild and then use that ore to research how to scan caterium
And if you find a caterium node then thats even better

[arctic swallow]

get the zipline

[oak sorrel]

yeah i remmeber some places in the map

[arctic swallow]

NOW

[oak sorrel]

wdym there is zipline?

[arctic swallow]

yeah reserch more caterium in MAM

[tranquil hemlock]

My second favourite travel method so far XD

[oak sorrel]

last time i played satisfactory it was till milestone 6

[arctic swallow]

first?

[tranquil hemlock]

Hypertubes. They look so fun

[fresh wharf]

I forgot what's in milestone 6
Must mean it's irrelevant

[oak sorrel]

xd

[green fiber]

Its just tempered blue iron
No need for lasers

[arctic swallow]

ohh

[lost wagon]

That's the way

Be aware that the first shard will not have the sloop effect, just after the first (at least that's what happened to me), so start with the blue ones so you only lose 1

[oak sorrel]

what does this mean

[lost wagon]

Which part

[oak sorrel]

"use somersloop"

[lost wagon]

Somersloop can duplicate production output as long you unlock the research for it

You equip it in the machine like overclock

[oak sorrel]

understood thanks

[loud ivy]

thicc pipes,that's it tbh

[clear aspen]

Hello

[compact python]

I think Rey is a skywalker

[tranquil hemlock]

I know this isn't much of an achievement really, especially compared to some of what I see from other people, but I successfully made a 2 story 5x5 all-iron blueprint for motors. Gotta save this for future save games

[compact python]

Show pics

[tranquil hemlock]

Wait... I messed up

[compact python]

Nvm u can’t in this channel

[tranquil hemlock]

I forgot that I needed to assemble the rotors XD

Whelp. 3 stories it is XD

I was so pleased with myself too. Then reality came in with a xeno-basher

[cursive crane]

#screenshots

[clear aspen]

Is this rage bait

[compact python]

Uhmm

[compact python]

Ty

[royal quail]

Hello, where are the last news about PS5? I did find the storepage on PS5 today.

[compact python]

So I’m taking it u don’t think she is a skywalker

[clear aspen]

No cause her grandfather is darth sidious

[compact python]

Leya and Luke seemed to be cool with it, she got basically adopted

[clear aspen]

It’s just my opinion

[fresh wharf]

How the fuck do you start a conversation about star wars from a factory game

[clear aspen]

Scroll up

[fresh wharf]

Don't feel like it

[swift kernel]

Then don't ask

[distant hill]

There's just a certain magnificent feeling when something you didn't plan lines up perfectly... 🤣 "Okay where are my heavy frames... down here... wait... that's straight down, doesn't clip anything, and lines up... 🤯 "

[fresh wharf]

Perhaps

[swift kernel]

Happy little accidents, as one painter might put it

[distant hill]

True but the other side of it is the quote from Vergil in Devil May Cry... "Why isn't this working!? Must more blood be shed!?"

[ivory condor]

@sterile blade I have some bad news to share, rendering with more signs is broken again, so not only do they performance worse but they are now rendering black in some cases again

[wild igloo]

console news?

i mean i have on my pc, but console is easier to boot

[leaden turret]

add feet to pc, will boot easier 🥁

[leaden turret]

no dev streams until august, so unless they're going to drop a surprise dev stream, that means no console release until at least... august 5th

[wild igloo]

Ah fair enough, I can wait till then :), got a new ssd to install in the mean time so that might help with the hdd boot time

[obsidian zodiac]

we may do some gameplay streams but dev updates will be slow for July. a lot of the team is on vacation 🙂

[wild igloo]

It is that time of year I suppose 🙂

[leaden turret]

kingdom hearts gameplay stream?

[ivory condor]

Oh this is interesting, they changed the template design for the Small Billboards, they include a Icon now for newer placed signs but this Legacy Sign save doesn't have Icon for configuration option, the text is relative in the Center, but because of some changes here its not rendering it because the Rendering expects Icon, but because this is a legacy save and the older signs don't have the Icon, it seems to be causing them not to Render at all anymore aka Black, how interesting👀

So this isnt't specifically a bug that is impacted newly placed signs, but changes for how signs are being rendered and configed now, that is causing conflicts with how Signs used to be simply in the past, causing what is essentially save incompatbility now with older saves, in this case anyways, very interesting

[obsidian zodiac]

if someone makes hollow bastion in satisfactory then yes 100%

[leaden turret]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1lo6i94/kingdom_hearts_gameplay_stream_promised_by_jason/

cc @gaunt tulip

[ivory condor]

Also I can apparently copy the Signs with H, and it will copy them, aka without Icon and cause those newly placed to rendered black also hmmmm, so these older signs are just cursed with no escape, you cant even copy them, because of these changes that add Icon by default and the older signs don't have that hmmmm

[obsidian zodiac]

oh marv. always trying to make my dreams and nightmares come true

[leaden turret]

may your dreams be filled with be-tassled lizard doggos

[arctic swallow]

imagine it getting 0 upvotes

[leaden turret]

it got two

[arctic swallow]

no way it will be seen by someone who will do it

[obsidian zodiac]

i agree but its a romantic gesture

were sooner to get a FF14 stream from @void gorge

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac specifically imagine the dancing baby animation from the 90s but with a be-tassled lizard doggo

[leaden turret]

final fantasy builds are a dime a dozen though. https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q="final fantasy"

[obsidian zodiac]

oh no

[void gorge]

There's a new old MMO on the radar...

[leaden turret]

zug zug

[leaden turret]

what build does the community have to do to get a WoW stream on the CSS channel?

[void gorge]

Honestly screw either of them

After seeing this, I think it's time to go live with my COE33 challenge runs

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1lmslnr/clairsatisfactobscur_for_those_who_build_after/

[leaden turret]

I was gonna ping that earlier, suggesting it for CH featuring following on from the recent normal-looking eiffel tower featured on CH

[void gorge]

Bro I'm about to cut the hiatus short and dedicate a full hour to this highlight alone

My jaw crashed so hard I'm still picking up teeth from the floor

[sharp sentinel]

Good morning everyone. Time to drive myself insane with MOAR PIPES.

[leaden turret]

embrace the spaghett https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=spaghett AND pipes

[ivory condor]

Well more bad news, templates for Large Billboards is breaking completely, even for newly placed and configed, so this isn't a older save compatibility issue with saves, so there is no escape even for newly created placed and configed signs, but rather these Signs is general are just cursed with no escape no matter what you do

Yep tried setting backgrounds for Large Billboards, and its just rendering Black, instead of that set background

[sharp sentinel]

That's the one I was most in awe of. The 'Where's the ground?' looking thing. My old save almost looked like that, but I've been building pretty cleanly this time with neat little factories. Perhaps too little because to add to them I have to add more floors, but it's fun.

I say that, but I made a huge floor by a waterfall and the only thing being produced on it is alclad sheets.

[fathom shuttle]

600 rocket fuel done

Overclocked everything except the refineries for 1:1:1 ratio, diluted fuel blender, nitro rocket fuel blender, packager, constructors

[left arrow]

I just made my first factory using blueprints that auto-connect. Still got to work out some quirks to prevent connections where I don't want them, but when it works, it works 🥲

[shut lava]

What really surprised me is that auto connect will also color the pipes

[left arrow]

It essentially creates a new pipe/belt of the same type and color as the one in the blueprint you are placing.

#screenshots message

So here is my 50-smelter smeltery 🙂

[rustic cave]

So with nuclear power with water the storage tanks do they store water and release is or cans I use one water tank and feed it thru to another

[reef basin]

you shouldn't need any fluid buffers in your nuclear setup

[rustic cave]

Oh ok I was just wanting g to know bc I wanted to store liquid like water

[reef basin]

why though?

storing liquids is practically pointless

[rustic cave]

So what those liquid store thing is usless

[reef basin]

they are only useful for buffering trains

in practically any other case, you're better without them

(unless you for some reason want to have off-the-grid storage of fuel or something, but that's not what people usually build)

[oblique smelt]

Unpopular opinion: the hard drive wait times make the game worse and hurt the user experience

[leaden turret]

if you wanna cheat, cheat

[oblique smelt]

I'm not saying anything about "cheating" I'm just saying it's one of those things that hurts the game more than anything

[left arrow]

The timers on the MAM don't bother me, but they do feel a bit pointless to me, unlike those on the HUB.

[reef basin]

if you scan during the exploration, you practically remove them from the game

[leaden turret]

oh no, the game with a map half the size of manhattan has nothing to do for 10 minutes at a time, you just gotta sit there and do nothing

(sarcasm)

[oblique smelt]

What does the timer add besides annoyance?

[leaden turret]

motivation to do something else

[oblique smelt]

True, but they feel arbitary even still

[leaden turret]

go watch youtube shorts while poopin for 10 minutes

[frozen ingot]

yeah realising you can build a second MAM and research HDDs as you go was gamechanging

[oblique smelt]

10 minutes that could majorly change my plans depending on the outcome

[left arrow]

I understand wanting to encourage the player to keep building stuff while they unlock things, but for Hard Drive in practice all it means is I'll be carrying the parts I need for a MAM with me as I explore.

[frozen ingot]

you'd be carrying those anyway, most likely, and don't have to now with depots

[reef basin]

I mean back in time we had all HUB research take time 😛

[leaden turret]

if your plans are that rigid/fragile you should cheat to get the unlocks you want

[oblique smelt]

Why does this read like ragebait?

[reef basin]

because it is

[frozen ingot]

yeah i remember when they chagned certain things to like 3s research time 😄

[oblique smelt]

True, but I wish they'd just remove or let us scan multiple hard drives at once

[leaden turret]

or auto-queue

[oblique smelt]

Just hurts the player experience

[reef basin]

tbh I haven't really seen anyone else saying this (or saying this after being told they can scan on the way)

[leaden turret]

your player experience is not the player experience

[reef basin]

so I don't think that it's that big of a deal. But feel free to make a QA post 😉

[frozen ingot]

in a game about automating things (and exploring) i think the design choice was most likely 'go automate something whilst i scan this hard drive (or explore some more)'

[oblique smelt]

I mean it is a minor gripe I have with the game, it's nothing too massive

[left arrow]

That's what I'm genuinely curious to hear about. In my experience, the wait is not a big bother but seems pointless.

[oblique smelt]

But any annoyance is still an annoyance

[leaden turret]

I used to dread going back to base to unlock HDDs

then I realised I can just build a MAM when it goes ding cos there's stuff.

[trim bramble]

alguien español que quiera jugar?? DM!!

[south sinew]

I also hate the 10 minute hard drive scan time

[left arrow]

Yeah, I think people are being way too defensive, nobody here's raging about anything. Just pondering.

[leaden turret]

removal of the old walls hurts my player experience, my factories are now inside-out

[left arrow]

At least I'm not. I'm waaaay too sleepy to be raging, woke up at 5am x)

[leaden turret]

rage against the mazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzine

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

@ivory condor You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @sterile blade

[oblique smelt]

Old walls?

[leaden turret]

the walls used to have different surfaces on either side

an inside and an outside

all the walls have their insides on the outside now 😛

[left arrow]

(Though I am somewhat bitter that I noticed an item dupe glitch with Keep Inventory. I hope I haven't accidentally duped a collectible because of it.)
(Which was reported 9 months ago but had 20-something upvotes.)

[ivory condor]

wait tell you see how poorly optimized signs are, thats far worse player experience wise

[fathom shuttle]

Im storing the rocket fuel in a 21 ISC stack lol

Should fit 100k

Wow rocket fuel is so good

I can get up my factory floors so easily now and

It just 2 seconds and done

Way better than packaged biofuel

[lost wagon]

By the time you get another drive, chances are the previous one is scanned already

[fathom shuttle]

You can find drives faster than you scan them if you’re fast enough

[sharp sentinel]

What's the maximum suggested range to run a drone?

[latent prawn]

they're better long distance, so there really isn't a maximum

[fathom shuttle]

1000km

[latent prawn]

one corner of the map to the other is quite doable

[sharp sentinel]

Almost missed that k in there and was like 'Well, that's kinda garbage.'

Going to send one from the Red Bamboo Fields to the Jungle Spires, so I was curious. Going to package my nitrogen and then use another drone to ship it to the Western Beaches.

[fathom shuttle]

It depends on the throughput, and how many different items you plan to transport. If you’re planning to do something like 2400/min concrete across the map then drones would be really bad for that, but if you’re planning to transport like 10/min heavy modular frames then drones are perfect for that

[ivory condor]

It would appear that really old reshade program can back to bite me in the ass in ways I didn't expect But on the plus side I finally figured out more what was causing those old crashes. I did wonder what the game on epic seemed like it ran more stable, thats the only that didn't have reshade with the game.

[latent prawn]

yeah, moving nitrogen is one of the primary use cases for drones

[fathom shuttle]

It’s better to develop the area with rail if you’re building a second factory far away

[ivory condor]

Funny I didn't realize it sooner, probably because its a post process shader injection tool so my brain wasn't quite thinking it would interact with the game in the way that it did, but in hindsight it actually make more sense.

[mortal ginkgo]

Yep, you are not safe with "just visuals" when it comes to crashes.

A game can crash (or more likely crash the GPU driver, which leads to same thing) with visuals too.

[ivory condor]

I definitly learned the hard way that reshade with this game isn't exactly a good idea to infact use, especially with certain features like frame gen, turns that it causing all of the crashes I seeing all along.

Also I hadn't used reshade with the game for a while anyways, so it was giving me no benefits, besides crashes, which isn't a benefit, at least not a good one

[mortal ginkgo]

never give a mod the benefit of the doubt

a mod can cause anything even if its one single job is printing "Hello" to screen once.

[sharp sentinel]

I now have radars setup to reveal half the map. Feels nice.

[timid rune]

gotta get this tiny supercomputer build done (only 15.5/min) before I go and upgrade my aluminum build to electrode scrap

[arctic heath]

Can I somehow go back to 1.0 version to try play satisfactory plus overhaul mod?

[timid rune]

yeah you can (there is a bit of work involved)

[arctic heath]

Im ready

[ivory condor]

Well its post process shader injection tool, so my brain wasn't thinking of it in terms of a mod sadly, but in hindsight my brain should have been treating it like a mod

[timid rune]

https://docs.ficsit.app/satisfactory-modding/latest/faq.html#PlayOlderVersion

[arctic heath]

thanks

[shy mulch]

how do you view high res versions of those images? I click on stuff and it does nothing

[leaden turret]

The caption links to the original source, gotta make sure I don't get banned by Reddit 😅

[shy mulch]

I can't make any sense of that UI. Every image, text, button etc all just seems to link back to itself

[sharp sentinel]

Turns out I forgot I didn't know how to make nitric acid yet.

[leaden turret]

Ping me again in a few hours and I might be awake enough to spend some time reviewing new designs.

[shy mulch]

Oh, turns out you have to click on an image that takes you to another page with a bunch of more images, then hover over the image and see a timestamp from the anchor, and use that to look for the same timestamp on the left then click the title that's disguised as not-a-link

Please tell me you don't work in web development as a career lol

[leaden turret]

I don't work as a designer

[sharp sentinel]

With truck should I stick to one product or can I ship two at a time?

[shy mulch]

thank heavens 😄

[undone yarrow]

I wonder just how broken being able to put sloops in packagers would be

[shy mulch]

would be infinite everything

[ivory condor]

Time to break the game?

[undone yarrow]

jokingly Might make ionized fuel actually good

[undone lichen]

Does splitters split into the left conveyor, mid conveyor or right conveyor first?

[ivory condor]

all we would need is a recipe to package sloops/spheres, breaking would be complete

[rustic cave]

How much water dose a nuclear tower take

[shy mulch]

all the numbers are on the wiki

[rustic cave]

Ah thank u

[undone yarrow]

240-600 depending on clock

[rustic cave]

Is it worth doing g any designs or do I wait till I unlock stuff like higger convayers

[shy mulch]

You can easily upgrade conveyers to higher teir in place

[undone lichen]

Which output of a splitter is distributed first? Left, mid or right?

[autumn skiff]

test it

[undone lichen]

Getting inconsistent results

-# even when i reset the splitters

[arctic heath]

thanks again, all worked, mod launched

[sharp sentinel]

Cleaning up a drone I had doing what a truck could do and lordy, moving 7000 copper ingots is a pain.

[ivory condor]

The answer is none of them, it works on ratios and percentages, aka have fun

You can get some level of prediction with math thankfully, but there are some limits

[undone lichen]

[ripe stump]

How do I switch between types of nobelisks with the detonator. I have reviewed previous answers and none of those suggested work or I'm just a dufus, haha

[undone lichen]

Have any of those suggestions involved "hold R"

[ivory condor]

wait until you get into smart/prog splitters, that allows you to control what products go to which outputs, thats when the real factory building fun starts

[undone lichen]

Already gor into smart splitters, used it to feed things onto the sink whenever my storages are full

Working on a Modular Frame factory rn

[ripe stump]

no on holding it. Hold is the key word, thanks mucho!

[undone lichen]

You're welcome

[swift pebble]

Is it possible to limit the throughput of belts, or limit the amount of storage machines have so it doesn't take forever for a chain of machines to get up to full efficiency when you're splitting one belt into a bunch of machines?

[undone lichen]

Either fill up the machines yourself, lower the mk of the conveyors that's feeding the machine or both

[swift pebble]

what's mk

[undone lichen]

Mark

[swift pebble]

who's mark

[median shell]

the tier

[swift pebble]

oh wait you mean

[undone lichen]

Ye the level/tier of the conveyor

[swift pebble]

yeah got it. Been doing that but most machines need way less than 60 items/second right now anyways

[undone lichen]

Still helps i think

Or maybe not, im not a manifold user

[ivory condor]

Manifolds always have a slow startup speed, because you have to wait for each machine to be full, kind of how thats always worked

[swift pebble]

What's the alternative? just having a splitter tree before every line of machines?

[ivory condor]

It's either that or have fun balancing everything out

[mortal ginkgo]

I think the problem lays here :p

[ivory condor]

Basically yes but you can do balancers many different ways

[undone lichen]

Balancers ain't that bad

[mortal ginkgo]

You sacrifice virgin blood to an Old false god

[swift pebble]

Well I've got plenty of that lying around

[mortal ginkgo]

They got uses, but manifold is where you are not losing sanity

[ivory condor]

Oh I forgot that option

[undone lichen]

Im probably gonna start using manifolds at phase 3 or 4 but currently in phase 2 i like balancers more

[stuck dagger]

I never use balancers past 3 layers(?)

[mortal ginkgo]

I am definitely not the "play the way you want bro its sandbox", so I will say that you are fine for now, its just that eventually some other recipes go crazy where "using balance is just simply, wrong".

[stuck dagger]

and even then, only for things that can be exactly divided into 2s and 3s

[mortal ginkgo]

I only needed balancer was at tutorial phase. 🤷‍♂️

[stuck dagger]

Balancers look better to me, but up to a point

[mortal ginkgo]

I think I ditched it after I got foundations lol

[mortal ginkgo]

Gently, very, very, VERY softly disagreeing with you but then I come from DSP.

[swift pebble]

Idk manifolds are intuitive to figure out, super easy to set up, and will eventually be 100% efficient even if it takes forever to get there. That checks all of my "good enough" boxes

[undone lichen]

Yeah im already starting to feel that with my Modular frame factory, just that idk how to design manifolds when my conveyors can only handle 270 items/min

[mortal ginkgo]

you can manual feeding some extra to speed up the manifold balance process too, dunno why people ain't doing that

[ivory condor]

Personally I would just use balancers once production start to get decimals, because noway I'm going to try balance out those decimal production numbers

[undone lichen]

I could mix balancers with manifolds tho, might try that when i get to phase 3 and have to make heavy modular frames

[swift pebble]

Yeah I've been doing that too but when you get later into the production line it gets a bit more annoying

[undone lichen]

Is Making motor factory in tier 4 worth it? I don't see much stuff using motors rn

[true mulch]

you'll need a ton of them in tiers 5/6

but as usual, you needn't produce a lot per minute

[mortal ginkgo]

I think your setups are too big to handle for one belt then? Because what works for balancing, should also work for manifold.

I assume your balancer belt aint feeding enough either.

[true mulch]

something around 10/min is a ton if you just let it pile up in storage

[leaden ether]

Also with manifolds you can semi-balance them by simply not letting them get too long. If you have 40 machines in a row, break that into 4 manifolds and then feed each manifold from the center instead of one end. It helps a LOT.

[mortal ginkgo]

@undone lichen my brother, what the heck is this: #screenshots message

Are you getting paid at least for this suffering?

[true mulch]

if only there was a simple way to fill machines without having to do any thinking

[mortal ginkgo]

you can hire me to put stuff in your factory manually and you will feel pain less.

[undone lichen]

Well my wip modular frame factory is going to use 32 smelters, 18 iron plate constructors, 28 iron rods constructors, 18 screw constructors, 12 Reinforced Iron Plates Assembler, 20 Modular Frames Assemblers

[dense violet]

@swift pebble feeding manifolds with lower mk belts usually makes the spin up time increase btw

[mortal ginkgo]

say no more, manual supply yes? because you know what you suppiled them so you know whats going on yes? yes.

[undone lichen]

Tried calculating with various alternate recipes but i ended up deciding to work with the normal recipes

[undone lichen]

Nah, im unemployed

[viral tendon]

The fact that you can build 10 million kms of conveyors and it would use no power is crazy

[obsidian aurora]

if there are variations in the consumption does that mean some of my machines arent working 100%? its like fluctuating ±100MW but im making sure that everything is running at 100%

[mortal ginkgo]

you just manifold feed the buildings as long as the belts allow, then you let another belt take over.

then you get better mk belts and you replace the system if desired.

anything is better than balancing at that poing kek

[undone lichen]

Figuring out a better way though

[undone lichen]

Fair enough, i'll try that next time

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, manual feeding it is, sorry spoilers

[stuck dagger]

Some later tier buildings have power consumption that goes up and down

[mortal ginkgo]

Maybe Miners?

[undone lichen]

No, just a simpler balancer

In my case

[stuck dagger]

but if not, yeah it could be that some machine is backing up or not being fed enough

[obsidian aurora]

oh youre probably right, theres some nodes that im not fully utilizing

[undone lichen]

Is it for new buildings or space elevator?

Or unlocking milestones

[true mulch]

new buildings

oh and milestones too, yeah

[undone lichen]

Ah ok

[half scaffold]

Yay, finished my first factory blueprint. Fully enclosed factory with input, output and trash lines, a door and roof! 😄

It's nothing special, just making concrete, but I made it two levels, with room to move around and a crafting table for good measure.
I dropped it in the pit with all the Limestone nodes. I take all of them and run through 8 constructors for 120/m output. I put them into one of the double containers and overflow into the sink. Eventually I'll run a truck to it so I can automate the encased beams.

[rough geode]

i only recently discovered you dont need a floor for blueprints

[mortal ginkgo]

someone is going up in pioneer status

[half scaffold]

My next will be to take 4-5 Iron nodes and crank out ingots to distribute to two other "factories" for making steel and frames

[lost wagon]

Time to restart

[rough geode]

you can make the blueprint on foundations 4m high, put all the belts and stuff below, remove the floor, then nudge it down and wham bam buildings on the floor spaghetti on the ceiling

[lost wagon]

You can do that if you use lift, but removing the belt under the terrain in case you want to change something is pain

[rough geode]

under terrain is an exploit and i refuse to elaborate or change my mind

[lament niche]

why do you need so much concrete?

[half scaffold]

The REAL question is... "Why not?" 😛

I make tons of foundations and stuff. The rest goes into the sink, so really, why not?

[shy mulch]

120/min is not a lot of concrete, will need more than that later in the game

[lost wagon]

Belting under the terrain is just artistic liberty for underground belts

[fathom shuttle]

I’m making 1k/min and I’m still in mid game lol

[lament niche]

🤔

I get through the entire game on 90/min

[rough geode]

theres another game you can play if you want underground belts ☠️

[lament niche]

it's called modded satisfactory

[shy mulch]

You clearly place a lot less foundations than me

[lament niche]

I make big builds, watchu on about willis

[rough geode]

i for one require all manufacturing to occur in brutalist concrete monstrosities

[shy mulch]

Big yes, but slow. If you have production of 90/min and don't run out constantly

[lament niche]

I don't. Turns out two industrial containers of concrete is enough reserve

[mortal ginkgo]

Making the factory big = 150 Hours
Could make the same item in crafting bench = 1 hour

I kek.

[shy mulch]

The waterfall at the top of dune desert / spire coast, has a bug where you can fall under the map. There's an absolute massive amount of space for building. Considered going down there and building some factories, and build downwards instead of upwards for a change

[leaden ether]

Heh yeah, making highways from blueprints chew trhough the concrete at an amazing speed. At 270/min I would do 2-3 minutesd of roadwork, then have to wait 10-11 minutes for a single DD to refill -.-

[lament niche]

that's your problem: you only store in DDs

[leaden ether]

Otherwise having to run back and forth across the map ever few minutes to top up inventory? No thanks, Added more DDs

[fathom shuttle]

I have 3 DD for concrete

[leaden ether]

I just added a second and have not had the chance to truly stress test it, but yes I think three is a good number ;)

[fathom shuttle]

Generally the only 2 items you’ll need more than one depot for are iron plates and concrete

One for the rest of the items is more than sufficient

[leaden ether]

I saw a guys video where he did that, had a train that went down there and (having been under there) I realized that the absolutely massive amount of space he had to cover with a ceiling to block out the underside of the terrain was impressive. He also build all the buildings upside down :D

[spiral summit]

its so dumb that you cant have patterns on half foundations

[shy mulch]

Should be a pixel-art style editor where you can draw your own patterns to use on foundations

Imagine the possibilities 😄

[thin pilot]

I cant belive ive got 40 hrs on satis in 5 days of playing LMAO

[plain quest]

It's a full time job