satisfactory

[sullen gull]

Ahh, it's the output, sorry missed that part.

[rich meteor]

Can't it won't fit that way.

[sullen gull]

Try to remove the ceiling mount. Connect it to the belt

[south sinew]

what you're doing the other way is jamming the lift into the foundry, but the game won't actually connect them, I had a similar experience with wall holes and splitters/mergers too

you need to add a belt from the foundry into the lift

[rich meteor]

Yes it does, I have 100's of machines built this way, it only started happening after 1.1

[south sinew]

huh, that kind of thing never worked for me in 1.0

[viral tendon]

When celling light zoop mode

[lament niche]

thats ur problem

[sullen gull]

I have had troubles with snapping to ceiling mounts like that. So, I just use the mount for the initial snap point, remove it, then rebuild the belt to the lift after.

[rich meteor]

Tried, Pics here

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1j5rn27/my_modular_factory_at_phase_2/

[rich meteor]

Yeah, I tried that as well, attaching belt directly to lift, the issue is there is no items in the lift,

so the connection from the foundry output to the lift is broken

belt to foundry output works, lift to foundry output does not

[undone yarrow]

Neat, you need a 6 foundation base for a fueled alien generator to spin without clipping

[versed mirage]

nobody was talking to you 😭

[waxen lark]

Guys where can I submit a bug report?

[green fiber]

on the QA site

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @green fiber

[wet dock]

is it possible to sit on a tractor while it is on autopilot?

[green fiber]

yes, but it will not like that

[wet dock]

wdym

[green fiber]

the physics get very wonky

[undone yarrow]

Physics engine no like 2 mobile entitys colliding

[wet dock]

i meant like ride it

[undone yarrow]

In the chair or such? yeah, there's an "enable auto pilot" button iirc

[wet dock]

yes, i enabled it and it did nothing

[green fiber]

i believe autopilot turns off automatically once you enter it

it only works for trains

[wet dock]

oh ok

[sly gazelle]

Does anybody suffering from electricity bug too? I'm producing 80k electricity and using 9k then everything is shutting down for not having enough electricity.....

[undone yarrow]

Hmm... unless I mathed wrong (which I probably did) It seems base Ionized fuel is a net 7ish mw per fuel over rocket (1ish mw production cost for 60mw power vs 7ish mw cost for 83.33 power)

By contrast Turbo to Rocket is 33.33 vs 60 a fuel unit...

(Fuel is 12.5)

[green fiber]

Ionized is indeed not that much greater than rocket fuel

[undone yarrow]

Coffeeeeeeeestaaaaain

[mystic oriole]

it seems most of the advanced late game power production takes advantage of boosting to provide some amount of balance.

[tardy osprey]

GUYS, is there a way to NOT copy properties of building?

maybe a way that would make it a default?

[undone yarrow]

?

[sour ledge]

man, came across this nice area in the southwest with a bunch of pure nodes near the beach; 3 pure iron, 1 pure copper, 2 pure limestone, and a pure sulfur. So I figure, this is a good spot for an initial-stage-production factory. Get some ingots going with the 'Pure' alternate recipes from that iron/copper, really set myself up for phase 5. It's just ingots, won't take long to setup and i can ship 'em where i need by train! Simpile.

Forty refineries just to process one pure copper node later.... i may have underestimated the scale necessary to take advantage of pure nodes with pure alts 😅 this was not the tiny 10 minute factory i anticipated for ingots...

[cobalt lodge]

I've had a similar error recently but disconnecting the powerplant, tirning it back on, turnig the rest back on and finally connecting the powerplant again worked

[tardy osprey]

i mean, when i copy an assembler, it copies the whole thing, as if i wanted another exact copy of it's purpose

and here i am when i just wanted the building itself

not it's purpose

[violet dust]

<@&387163995947270144> i want to add pictures to a bug report, is this the correct place for that?

[undone yarrow]

Pure Copper is evil, it has the highest yield per ore but its so sloooooooow

[lament niche]

use build tab

[lament niche]

no.

[violet dust]

then where do i add them?

it just says post your image in discord

[undone yarrow]

A single pure node can take up to 80 refineries if you dont over clock them...

[lament niche]

post them in the bug report channel?

[violet dust]

i dont see a bug report channel

[lament niche]

there's no picture permissions in this channel.

also, file a ticket instead of pinging all mods, the mods here can get aingwy sometimes (but not usually)

[violet dust]

open-a-ticket is only for discord-related issues

[sour ledge]

yeaaaah i've still got mark 2 miners, so i figure: Set everything up with no power shards at all, other'n in the miner. Once i upgrade the miner i can just sweep through upgrading all the belts+toss some shards in and bam, maximized node

[bold heron]

They added controler support whit 1.1 right ?

[lament niche]

again, you can ask where to put stuff there

[willow glen]

hmm, for multiplayer, is the fog of war per-player or shared for everyone?

[latent prawn]

i think it is shared

[spice patio]

Everything is shared, except personal inventory and hotbars.

[willow glen]

My buddy just built a Train station way in the black and went afk lol, thanks

I noticed customized defaults are shared, kinda annoying when I wanna do a build in green and he wants to stick to default orange, but I can filter recolor after I guess

[spice patio]

There are sometimes bugs in propagating those reveals, where you need to reconnect to get updated.

[obsidian aurora]

is 1:1:2 a good ratio for wire, cables, and copper sheets?

i would be making 200 copper sheets

[dim badger]

i want to buy the game but 27 euros is so much. is it worth it?

[latent prawn]

if you like games like factorio or DSP, it is similar in depth and fun-ness

but worth is a subjective metric

if you like factory building games, it is easy to sink 1000's of hours into satisfactory, and by the metric of hours of playtime vs cost, there's a lot of value

if you compare it to something like a big title EA game with a linear story and 10-20hr time-to-complete, there's no contest in worth, but you may also pick up the game and find you don't like factory building games and drop it after a few hours, very subjective in that regard

[kind basalt]

Hello. Me and my friend were wondering why we can't see any of our buildings on the map? Similar to what Starcraft or Factorio shows for example - some visual representation of man made structures and entities. Perhaps some map settings?

[latent prawn]

nah, just limitation of the in-game map. only things like signal towers, and train/truck stations are shown

if you want a map of your building, load your save into the SCIM website

[kind basalt]

Oh wow that's surprising. I remember we tested the game on launch and now we gave it another go and were wondering why it's still not there. Thanks, I'll try the website!

[tiny sigil]

Is there a way to not get the game to pause when I tab away (switch windows?) im playing on a server and it keeps timing me out

[latent prawn]

i don't think the game ever pauses in multiplayer because that wouldn't make a lot of sense for others. I think there's something else you have doing something wacky

[bold heron]

nice controller support, lets try satisfactory on steam deck.

[tiny sigil]

its freezing the window when i tab away. The music/sound stop too. I don't have any mods so I'm not too sure whats going on

[lost wagon]

I hate this game not having proper hotkeys for tools so goddamn much

[mystic oriole]

it has reminders and it shows all that when you try to do something

[ocean iris]

with the zoopables mod, what do i need to unlock the zoopable foundry?

[timid geode]

At what point do you get the vertical splitters?

Splitters/Mergers

[hollow pelican]

I can't wait for when I get my new GPU

[gentle cape]

is there a problem with colouring concrete walls completely white?

[latent prawn]

they're unlocked with basic logistics, the normal buildables can just snap only a lift

[west jackal]

I feel like 12.5 HMF per minute is overkill

[latent prawn]

i'm making 180/min and it is a little bit of overkill, lol

[fossil plume]

Which one and what's the one you currently have?

[west jackal]

if i did my maths right, 1200 iron per minute is around 12.5 hmf

[ripe girder]

So glad that after 1.1 update that it is running smoother now and my poor old laptop can handle playing again without being a slide show presentation

[south plume]

Can I max out the dimensional depo with the spheres available on the map? Are the spheres needed for anything else?

[latent prawn]

well, it depends on a lot of recipes. when you get into the bonkers size needed for compacted steel, it is a lot less

[white dawn]

Yes, there are enough spheres for about 200 Depots after fully upgrading via the MAM

[hollow pelican]

Integrated intel graphics on an laptop believe it or not my current pc GPU can't handle the game yet

[smoky forge]

whats hmf

[fossil plume]

and what's your new one?

[west jackal]

heavy modular frames

[latent prawn]

heavy mod frames. momma cubes heavy motha-f's

[smoky forge]

ah

o those r easy tho

fused ones r tough

[hollow pelican]

3060 12gb

[smoky forge]

i think for automating those imma use up an entire nitrogen node

[fossil plume]

Given you have integrated currently it will be massive 😀

[latent prawn]

default fmf isn't that bad if you discount aluminum as just being another factory. when you use the heat-fused frame alt, it honestly is one of the worst builds in the game to do

[west jackal]

sure, but is 12.5 /min overkill

[smoky forge]

not realy

[hollow pelican]

I may hope so

[latent prawn]

you need one hmf per nuclear pasta

[west jackal]

i mean its 1200 iron/min.. which i actually cant do till i do next phase lol

[smoky forge]

yeah

for me it would be possible

[west jackal]

im stuck with t4 belts rn but i need hmf to get to the next one

[smoky forge]

but i have diffrent plans

#math-and-meta lol

[west jackal]

well i asked a question in there

i checked my math with the planner tool and its doing some weird stuff

[latent prawn]

about the max for fmf's that map resources can reasonably accomodate is around 120/min, so your fmf target should be between pasta rate and 120

and consequentially, your hmf rate needs to be somewhat higher to make ACU's

also, the heavy encased frame alt recipe makes a lot more hmf's per node of iron. most of that savings is in the reduction of mf's needed per momma frame

[wicked nacelle]

why did these trains collide? #screenshots message -- on it was actually the one from behind him, not from the other track

[latent prawn]

mf's in turn can be made relatively cheaply with steel rods and plastic+rubber+iron

[west jackal]

im using that alt

[latent prawn]

making mf's that way however takes up a lot of space, so probably would wish that to be a separate factory that exports the mf's to the hmf plant

the encased steel pipe recipe can also reduse the steel cost of hmf's, but if you're looking at it in conjuction with heavy encased frame, you kind of run out of limestone for concrete (with whatever recipe) very quickly

at scale, its easier to use compacted steel to boost your steel yield than transport concrete or limestone from other biomes

[wicked nacelle]

easier until you run out of sulfur

[latent prawn]

for my 180/min factory, most of the limestone in the dune desert is going directly into hmf's

[tranquil sentinel]

I just got back into the game in my old save.
I feel like there was a way to check the neams o fthe stuff from the milestones and objectives by mouse-over, without going back to the hub for example?

I know I can press N to search but if I dont know the name of what im looking for it doesnt help 😄

[latent prawn]

there's more than enough sulfur on the map to allocate 600/min of it to making 2400/min steel

which incidentally, takes 240 foundries, lol

OC'd that drops to 96, but its still a lot

[timid geode]

So place the lift first then the buildable?

[latent prawn]

yeah, it really is kind of a 2nd class citizen

you can't control the orientation of splitter ports - one end of the lift always has to be going in & the other end out

perhaps at some point that'll change, but not in game now

[rare thunder]

how do i nudge something less?

oh ctrl

[smoky forge]

yeah ctrl

[south sinew]

if I'm getting the max UObject crash does that mean my save is hosed? or just that I need to restart the game every once in a while?

[frail sleet]

There's a bug in 1.1 which will make the game crash with the "out of uobjects" error every couple of hours regardless. You just have to eat the crash and restart, or disable the limit (but that may cause performance problems when the game randomly makes 10 million uobjects with the bug)

[south sinew]

ah ok

glad to hear as my save is big but not THAT Big

[leaden ether]

1.0 had the same bug but it tok 8-10 hours to overflow :/ 1.1 is just moreefficient!

[frail sleet]

I played 1.0 for 800 hours and never had a uobjects crash

in the last 50 hours of 1.1 before i removed the limit, it crashed maybe 20 times

[leaden ether]

Did you have the game running for 10-12 hours a day? If not then no crash. A lot more people are having it now because 2-3 hours is a more normal length of play time

[frail sleet]

I sometimes ran the game for 30 hours yes 😄

[white rock]

anyone wanna play im new to the game?

[frail sleet]

Tinker also checked out the main world that i play with a uobject counter mod and even now after much more development, the world is at 40% of the uobject limit

[leaden ether]

You have to be actively playing, i.e. mmoving around the world causing objects to load and unlod a lot.

THe problem is leaked objects that come into and go out of being as you play, not necessaruly the total number of objects in your world.

[frail sleet]

Ye

[south sinew]

anyone having an issue with sloops where the first time you run a recipe on a slooped machine you don't get the sloop bonus?

[frail sleet]

It's gotta be pretty bad to leak on the magnitude of at least 500k, maybe 1000k uobjects per hour.

[hollow tartan]

I think that's always been the case

[south sinew]

oh

[lime ermine]

#1201555265942724758

Wait whoops

[frail sleet]

wrong quote 😄

[wicked nacelle]

that's normal - but it's by machine not recipe. so you can run a diff recipe through it first

[heavy mist]

Just use a recipe then switch back to the one you want to use so u didn’t waste any and it’ll prime it

[hollow tartan]

ye unfort

[lime ermine]

@white rock

[frail sleet]

biocoal to the rescue

[mortal ginkgo]

only reason that recipe exist

[fossil zinc]

can you research the 500% depot expansion multiple times?

i just researched it and its not greyed out

nvm visual bug

[west jackal]

god i hate the radiation hogs

[fossil zinc]

the asthma inhaler in question

[west jackal]

?

[south sinew]

ok steamed copper sheet, just another 4 pipes of water to lift about 250m

really starting to wish I'd been smart and put all the water-consuming recipes on the ground floor kek

[bitter lodge]

really!?

;-; I just finished producing 25 of them a min

did I really not have to?

[undone yarrow]

Well, if you want to make say 25 nuclear pasta a minute without sloops...

[tropic bear]

does anyone know how to make an output in satisfactory modeler output split more than twice

[bitter lodge]

Maybe that is why I did it

I did the math for the new factory like 3 days ago. But it took me the past 3 days to build the entire thing

[sturdy mural]

guys can you like disable the 30 second long warnings?

[bitter lodge]

what causes that warning?

[west jackal]

well im going to make another hmf factory... this is solely hmf

[undone yarrow]

I assume they mean the first warnings at the start, which need a mod if you're offline or similar

[gentle cobalt]

is ther no voice channels in this server?

[lofty forge]

guys is anyone elses trains really fucked right now?

like completely changed signal behaviours, not seeing certain signals

signals having different conditions

a majority of the lines that worked before suddenly not working

ghost tracks

impossibly sharp railway turns

[lime ermine]

Nope, most people VC in DMs

[lofty forge]

"blocks loops into itself"

[gentle cobalt]

damn

[arctic swallow]

I only have two tips that helped me. Have space between rails and rebuild it a lot of times

[west jackal]

i have a power grid issue but i cant isolate what gens are dropping off and back on again, does anyone have any advice? if i disable my main array of gens then the batteries just kick on and then i cant see the power stutters

[arctic swallow]

Look at the smoke

[west jackal]

i think its from the electronics factory since its only a few gens

[arctic swallow]

If a generator isn't producing smoke it doesn't work properly

[lofty forge]

that is what i do but for some reason in this update a majority of my tracks give this error

[lofty forge]

yup easiest way to see if a gen is working or not

[west jackal]

that is a good idea, except that they all produce smoke... so there is one gen that is runing at 98% for some reason, but ive seen a drop of 500 MW

which is 2, not jsut 1, and all the others were at 100%

[arctic swallow]

I had to rebuild my junction 30+ times almost gave up on the game and almost destroid something but it finally worked

[south sinew]

buggery, just spent 20 minutes putting 4 pipes of water up when I only needed 2

[arctic swallow]

It is coal, fuel gene?

[south sinew]

oh well, those other two will come in handy someday I'm sure

[west jackal]

no not coal, its from oil fuel

[lofty forge]

1. do all the pumps that are needed actually exist 2) are all of them connected to the power grid

[arctic swallow]

How are you getting fuel there manifold or balncer. Ehat genes are not working if the last genes it is pretty common issue

[west jackal]

there is one fuel refinery and 3 residual fuel refineries, they are all running at 100% effeciency, they output a total of 120 fuel

the fuel refinery is running at 83.33 clock speed and 2.16667 for the residual

[arctic swallow]

@west jackal

[west jackal]

its a manifold. I thought it was the last gen, but it is at 100% effeciency and im still seeing the ripple.

Its possible that the issue is from the 60GW station, but that station seems stable

[lofty forge]

are the pipes completely full?

[arctic swallow]

Is the main pipe below the generators. Did you just started the factory if yes you need to wait until first generators to fill up

[west jackal]

not first started, but i just fixed it. 4 of the gens are full there is only 2 that arent completely full

[loud ivy]

@west jackal is your framerate a stable 60fps?

[lofty forge]

the best way i found to counter that issue was having it overfill a bit so that when the refinery produces the fuel it can instantly push it out and have no problems delivering it since there is no space for liquid to ripple

[west jackal]

im not sure, i dont have a framerate tracker

it feels fine, i dont feel frame drops

[west jackal]

okay i can let the gens/pipes fill all the way

[loud ivy]

so it is reasonably close to 60

[west jackal]

i think its over 60, but yes

[loud ivy]

hmm

[west jackal]

also, i know its not my main power gen bc that is stable at 60GW ive been watching it

[loud ivy]

yeah there should be zero problem

[west jackal]

but i just say a 500 MW drop, which means 2 of the fuel gens

[tall blaze]

why is crude oil so difficult yo

these pipeline pumps REFUSE to work

whoops

didnt mean to reply to that

[south sinew]

it's a lot easier to avoid needing them by just not trying to lift fluids so high

[arctic swallow]

Fluids in this game are super annotying if you do something with them never expect for them to fully work like you want them to

[tall blaze]

😔

like 20 4m ramps is too much?

[south sinew]

don't really agree, you just have to be a little gentle with them, like don't fill the pipe to 100% if you can avoid it, don't lift them more than you need, etc

[tall blaze]

like valves?

[south sinew]

You can pump it up that high, but it's better not to try to do that

I just finished pumping water up about 300m

[west jackal]

Well f me its actually the 60GW plant. I watched it for 20 minutes and no issues. But now I disconnected it and I saw the ripple

Im not dealing with this right now 😥

[tall blaze]

water is easier to handle though right?

[south sinew]

no

[west jackal]

Its the same... isnt it?

[south sinew]

all liquids behave the same, there's just a couple fluids which are gases that don't have headlift

[wicked nacelle]

in practice, it seems easier. I get clean 600/m in my water pipes all the time

[tall blaze]

literally

[lofty forge]

do you always put pumps on the hologram indicator that shows up whenever putting pumps

[wicked nacelle]

but on a fuel line I often get hiccups

[tall blaze]

wdym

i see 2 of them

the one that stays still or moves?

[lofty forge]

when placing pumps there is a hologram indicator that shows how high the fluid can go

[tall blaze]

yeha i was following that

[south sinew]

it should snap to the stationary, thicker one

which tells you how often to place the pumps

[loud ivy]

!!!pipes are not goddamn CONVEYORS!!!

[south sinew]

works best if the pipe goes straight up

[lofty forge]

that ring is always at the MAX lift the pump can provide

[lofty forge]

NOT comfortable height

[tall blaze]

oh

but shouldnt it still be fine if i place before it ends?

[lofty forge]

kinda but it always felt sloppy to me

[tall blaze]

how so

[loud ivy]

yes

[tall blaze]

yeah i do that

[south sinew]

you are powering the pumps right?

[loud ivy]

its absolutely fine,but inefficient

[tall blaze]

yep

[lofty forge]

the pump starting at the edge of absolute max height felt like it couldnt get all the liquid

[wicked nacelle]

You can always just go back and look at the previous pump and make sure it's not giving you the headlift warning

[tall blaze]

i changed the ramps from 4m to 2m and added like little straight platforms every now and them so theyre not constantly going up

should be better right

i posted a picture in #screenshots
i dont understand why it shows that it can only uplift like 2 meters

[south sinew]

It's about total vertical height, not how gently you increase the height. Pumps work just fine on straight vertical pipes.

also, that marker is for the existing pump's max range, not the new pump's max range

[tall blaze]

ohhhhhhhhhh

[wicked nacelle]

the animated one shows you the current pumps (the one you're placing)max height

[lofty forge]

this. it shows the previous pumps range, not the current one you are placing

[tall blaze]

i feel stupid now

[south sinew]

the new pump should snap to the thick blue marker which is the end of the old pump's range so that they form a proper chain

[tall blaze]

thank you thank you

ill try that then

[wicked nacelle]

many people report problems with putting the new pump at the snap point and recommend putting it right before though

[south sinew]

can only say that so far, straight on to snap point has worked fine for me

[tall blaze]

it just doesnt enter the other pipe wth

hmmm

[south sinew]

you know it takes time for fluids to travel right?

[tall blaze]

yeah

the pump isnt doing its job

its on the yellow light, ill move it down a bit

[lofty forge]

did you put the pipe down in "curve" mode

[tall blaze]

yes

[lofty forge]

also is the pump connected to power

[tall blaze]

yes

[south sinew]

try just making the pipe straight vertical

[tall blaze]

like after you click once you make it go up/down with the scroll wheel?

[lofty forge]

no. "vertical to horizontal" "auto" "auto 2d"

[tall blaze]

okay

[lofty forge]

putting it in curve mode always did weird things for me

[dense violet]

It can be yellow because fluid takes time to move

[tall blaze]

the entire pipe was full so

[lofty forge]

mybe just try deleting the pipes that connects to the pump and place them again

[wicked nacelle]

I've had that issue when using floor holes in the past, but I think they've fixed that

[dense violet]

If that’s the case it’ll also stop pumping if it’s not flowing and being consumed

[tall blaze]

so it doesnt matter if the pipe ahead of it is empty?

putting it straight vertical rn

[lost wagon]

no way to have the game show the distance between you and a highlighted mark, right?

[lofty forge]

wait hold on, so: 1) the pump is connected to the power grid, 2) the space ahead is empty, 3) the pipes are properly connected

[tall blaze]

yes

im re-doing the pipes rn though

[lofty forge]

the only thing that comes to mind is something happened when connecting the pipes

wait

is the pump looking the correct way?

[tall blaze]

yeah

[lofty forge]

is the pump before at max height (i am running out of ideas)

[dense violet]

Then it’s not full.

Put a pump below where your current pump is

[tall blaze]

ive already destroyed that pipe and im rebuilding it now

some guy told me to try vertically straight and it seems to be working so far

IT WORKS

i dont need any pipe pumps when its going straight horizontally right?

[mortal ginkgo]

nop

[tall blaze]

good good

[lofty forge]

sent an image to #screenshots could this have been it

[tall blaze]

hmm

it doesnt sound hard to believe, but i placed the next pump on where it showed that little hologram

[lofty forge]

that is the thing

absolute max height, it cannot push any further

[tall blaze]

yeah and i placed the next one where it ended, where it snapped

brb im gonna brush my teeth rq

[lofty forge]

maybe the -highest point- of the liquid was not touching the pump enough

in vertical pipes the entire? end of the liquid touches the next pump?

idk

if it worked like that it should at least pump something

even if it was only 1 cubic meter

[leaden ether]

Yeah like every three hours on the dot with heavy building. I need to set a timer on my watch 😛

[tall blaze]

i think it works now

now i just need to build the foundation to my factory
and build a few more pipelines for oil

ts so kevin yo

[south sinew]

how tall are Manufacturers? they're taller than Assemblers right?

[bitter lodge]

yes.

[tawdry loom]

not much but yes

[south sinew]

yeah ok, 16m rather than 12m clearance needed

[bitter lodge]

Manufactors, are about 16m tall including their light

assemblers are 12m

[south sinew]

hmm, I wish I could use Rigor Motor, but I need to automate motors before I can start relying on Manufacturers for stuff, especially since I don't have Quartz yet, but I might just leave some extra space for Manufacturers on this floor and then I can put in Rigor Motor later

[bitter lodge]

No matter what you do need rotors

[south sinew]

I got rotors and stators ready

[bitter lodge]

but if you just want more per min for each rotor, than ya rigor is better at the cost of quartz

[lofty forge]

rigor motor

cons:

something that can be made with just iron with the right recipes now requires quartz

pros:

produce 4x as much with the same stator rotor amount

[undone yarrow]

I wonder if we assume one makes the oscilator with the default recipe if it actually uses less iron (probably) since each cycle needs 2,5 RIPS and 14 cable

[south sinew]

I'm using Fused Quickwire and Quickwire Cable which, uh, makes a lot of cable, so I'm not too fussed about Cable costs

[undone yarrow]

Mmm, this is assuming pure iron motors otherwise

but if youre using fused quickwire, what about electric motor?

[south sinew]

I'm still in Tier 6

[undone yarrow]

that would do it yeah

I'd probably just do a pure iron motor for depot needs then,

[lunar gale]

Yay, I saved the day and got 100% achievements today

[undone yarrow]

Good job! Are the puppies and kitties worth it?

[south sinew]

I already have a ton of rotors/stators made in other ways so just gonna use those

[warm walrus]

what i'm i to do with all my plutonium waste

[lunar gale]

So worth it

[south sinew]

you can turn it into ficsonium and burn that which produces no waste

[undone crow]

Is there a way to specifiy a train to only fill specific freight cars at the train station it is heading to?

[ivory condor]

Prepare for pain

[undone yarrow]

Cry as you realize Ficsonium is over priced

Use the fuel rods as vehcile fuel or just sink them instead

[warm walrus]

oh sick

[south sinew]

eh.. it's not actually very good

[warm walrus]

is that in tier 9?

[undone yarrow]

Eeyup

[south sinew]

a lot of people just don't use nuclear or sink plutonium fuel rods rather than deal with ficsonium

[lofty forge]

use empty station to line the carts up

[warm walrus]

damn

[lunar gale]

Yeah I just sank the plutonium rods seemed like less of a headache 😂

[warm walrus]

it's that bad

[south sinew]

you can also just store up the waste and hope you win the game before it becomes a problem

that worked for me last time

[undone yarrow]

Aye, a big container island at the edge of the world also works

(or abusing the fact that a fast enough launch off the map deletes your inventory)

[warm walrus]

well my current plant only produces 15 plutonium waste/min so i guess i'll store it somewhere

[south sinew]

"How do I deal with plutonium waste?" "Hypercannon!"

[lofty forge]

just when i thought hypertube cannons had enough uses already

[ivory condor]

Honestly that's the best thing you can do, dealing with plutonium waste is just to expensive

[undone yarrow]

Make it another pioneer's problem

[ivory condor]

Maybe using doggos to get rid of plutonium waste is more viable

[warm walrus]

aha i have a hypercannon that does that

[lunar gale]

Yeah and I still have a huge power overhead from rocket fuel lol, just wanted to try nuclear to understand the chain

[warm walrus]

i know what i'm gonna do

[ivory condor]

Understanding is still fun, just dont put FFRs into production

[undone yarrow]

Maybe one just for fun, but otherwise yeah...

[lofty forge]

the only way to get rid of waste is ficsonium. you can also throw the rods into the sink

[south sinew]

hmmm

[bitter lodge]

is it possible to spawn in doggos?

[lofty forge]

or you can abuse their extreme energy and make extremely costly drone/vehicle trips for practically free

[south sinew]

debating whether I should go get Quartz next, or automate circuit board/high speed connector/computer

[lofty forge]

that way you can burn the rods without waste

[shy mulch]

quartz is always useful

[south sinew]

for HSC I might well want to do the silicon alt which requires Quartz so I should probably go do that

[bitter lodge]

maybe quartz can help make that easier?

[warm walrus]

on a scale of 1-10 how bad is it to make fisconium fuel rods

[south sinew]

10

[shy mulch]

8.3

[warm walrus]

god damn

[undone yarrow]

Quartz is only explicitly required for crystal oscillators until t8? When Radio Control Units and the things made from them come online (Pressure Cubes, Turbo Motors, Nuclear Pasta and some space elevator parts)

[south sinew]

yeah, but I want rigor motor and silicon high speed connector

and crystal computer

[undone yarrow]

Logistiacally? Really only as hard as Nuclear Pasta + some SAM (especially since needs more Dark Matter Residue than it produces) Ficsite is easy, Control Rods are already on site

[shy mulch]

depending what recipes you're using you might also need silica from the quartz for your alu setup

[undone yarrow]

For Ficsonium

The problem is the cost per waste is absurd

[prisma forge]

#screenshots message

Not yet completed, but I have a vision. I dub this factory the Nexus Pandora.
I know that the next phases will be utter chaos.

[lofty forge]

if you have blenders you could use that recipe that uses nitric acid (pure quartz crystals/distilled silica?) and have enough for both silicon HSC and crystal oscillators. for the question tho quartz

[south sinew]

still in tier 6

[undone yarrow]

I will note: You can make Super Computers with just Oil and Caterium

[bitter lodge]

what recipes-?

[undone yarrow]

Starting backwards: Default Super computer, Default Hi Speed Connector, Plastic AI Limiter, Default or Caterium Computer and Caterium or Electrode Circuit Board

[bitter lodge]

Noted and saved for later. Thank you :>

[lofty forge]

i think: standart SC, plastic Ai limiter, standart HSC, caterium computer , caterium or electrode circuit board, quickwire cable

[warm walrus]

what is that massive box producing

[prisma forge]

phase 3 items
More specifically:
Crystal Oscillator
High-Speed Connector
Circuit Board
Computer
Heavy Modular Frame
Modular Engine
Adaptive Control Unit

[warm walrus]

wow that's a lot of items in 1 place

don't you have to transport a lot of recourses

[prisma forge]

yup

that's why I didn't touch the rocky desert. I'm using almost all of its normal/pure nodes.

[warm walrus]

i'm building my current nuclear power plant in the rocky desert

it was a bad day for recourse transport

lot's of belts were layed down

[prisma forge]

I will build a refinery rig for the materials using one railway system, then another one to transport them

[warm walrus]

do you use trains a lot? i haven't really used them because they are a hassle to setup

[prisma forge]

used them all the time in my other save

[warm walrus]

don't they have a scarcity/overflow problems

it was that way when i setup my first train

[prisma forge]

not that I know of. All you need to do is calculate the rough time of its trajectory so you can have an idea of the input. You can also put path blockers and several trains to have a constant influx of trains

what I do is put an n-1 amount of trains where n is the number of train stations in that railway system

and then use path blockers so they don't collide

[warm walrus]

i may have to dabble in trains when i start another playtrough

[undone yarrow]

For 1 super computer you'd need between about 43 and 69 Caterium INGOTS (though Pure is basically free to use)

and 31 to 96 Crude Oil

This assumes youre using max yield oil (HOR, Diluted Fuel and the Recycled pair)

[tropic juniper]

whenever i use trains, it's always just one point to one point. i haven't really figured out a good use for them that belts can't replace

[undone yarrow]

Assuming infinite time and computing power Belts always win

[tall blaze]

why does my miner sound like its about to explode yo

[leaden ether]

I wouldn't call the Feast or Famine characteristic a problem really. Just a known behavior that you need to be aware of when planning. Trains ca transport a large amount of items, you just need the buffer space on the input and output to handle it (90% of the time the build in platform buffers are plenty big enough) Now I wouldn't necessarily go making 10 car trains to transport raw ore, but at the first product level I've never had an issue really. Once I had to use two cars/stations to haul a megaton of quartz crystals across the map but after that it worked perfectly.

I liked the trains so much on my first play though and was sad I didn't plan on using them more so this new save I'm going all trains 😄

[undone yarrow]

Worst case Station has 2 ports connected to an industrial buffer that has one port conencting to the input/output

[warm walrus]

are fluid trains also a good idea for transport?

[undone yarrow]

Eeeeh? I think the common opinion is that throughput wise packing and unpacking is "steadier" but... have some fun or such

(and denser, especially with gases... though as gases dont need headlift...)

[gritty sleet]

Has there been any news of a 1.1 followup bugfix patch?

[tropic juniper]

yeah i have no idea how to create a train station that handles more than one cargo type. so every station does one type of cargo only. the ui is really cumbersome and pointlessly complicated for that too. like, it seems to allow flexibility for more than one cargo type but that's basically impossible to handle because of the buffering problem. and if you need to smart splitter your output, you're killing the throughput and might as well just use belts.

so i basically stick to one platform one cargo type even though the overly complex scheduling ui allows for multiple cargo types

[leaden ether]

On my last save I had 5 trains transporting 11 or 12 items, mostly to my final warp drive factory. The parts came from all over the map. Belting that up would have been just... ugly 😦 I COULD have used drones for everything but the quartz, (And was using 10-12 drones for other things as it was). But a well planned out large train complex really has my motivation up on this playthrough.

[tropic juniper]

another thing that annoys me about train scheduling is you have to save changes in like 3 different places before they take

[leaden ether]

?!? THe route is 100% on the train, though maybe you are talking about setting the depots to load or unload?

[tropic juniper]

menu ui places, not game places. but that's annoying too.

[leaden ether]

THe only (initially perplexing) issue I had was I had one train taking two items from factory A to factory B then picking up two more items to bring back. I had not thought about the situation where if the destination is full, the train brings the items back to station A and when that happened it would unload them into the depot meant for factory Bs items and then clog up that part of the factory requiring some dissassembly to fix 😄 But a little overflow protection at factory B fixed that.

[lofty forge]

i hope so because the inconsistencies with the signals and railways (that came with 1.1) has completely shutdown my factory 😦

WHY DID IT MAKE IT AN EMOJI EW

[leaden ether]

Well we already had 1.1 bugfix patch, but what about second bugfix patch? 🙂

First day on Discord? O.O

[lofty forge]

no i have been here for some time i just thought that happened due to people just using emojis instead of emoticons

[leaden ether]

I am surprised that O.O did not auto-emoji actually.

[lime ermine]

Some people like me have that off

[lofty forge]

how

nvm found it

[leaden ether]

I didn't know that was an option. (There are probably 50 things I don't know are options at this point)

[whole crystal]

how do you change the hotkeys at the bottom

[lofty forge]

wave your mouse over the item you want input then press the hotkey number

in the builder menu

[lime ermine]

In discord settings, go to chat and it's down a bit

[whole crystal]

thank you

[thin pilot]

I have a question so I’m getting close to completing phase 2 of elevator just need to make the automatic wiring and versatile framing stuff is it better for me to use tractors to transport it or belts

[tropic juniper]

yeah the only solution to that is have a separate station to pick stuff up at. possibly a second train

[lofty forge]

what is the distance you are transporting? is the place vertical (cliffside)?, do you have coal nearby?, is the amount of items more than 270 a min

[undone yarrow]

Is Ficsmas out of season Mod only?

[leaden ether]

I fixed it by not letting the destination depot be a buffer for the one item that was overrunning it's storage. Also a smart splitter on the receiving end will filter out unwanted items as well. In either case you end up sinking overflow so it works pretty simply in those cases. In general though, separate trains are definitely simpler in that regard :)

[bitter lodge]

when it comes to trains, how many freight cars should I put on for each locomotive?

[sullen gull]

42

[bitter lodge]

No.

[leaden ether]

Heh, it might be fun to have one train of 20 cars hauling iron ore.. maybe. My last playthrough I only had 4 max, but you can put as many as you need to get things from A to B (or optionally C, D, E or F)

[true mulch]

Usually about 1:4 (anything over 10? freights is usually too long)

[torpid bridge]

anyone in here know much about fixing a server with the new update?

[true mulch]

Search through #1038092680493801533 or post yourself

[urban root]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/902621736602861588

[torpid bridge]

i did and couldnt find anything

[true mulch]

Then ask/post in those channels

[woven lava]

is it even worth it to start a new workd

[bitter lodge]

I am transporting a total of 540 items/min

its just...14 seperate items, but in total, 540 items overall

[true mulch]

Depends on the round trip duration and stack size

[bitter lodge]

so 4 cars should be enough right?

to like hold that much?

[true mulch]

Can't tell without those two

[bitter lodge]

it doesn't have to be 100%

[true mulch]

The duration you have to measure

[bitter lodge]

the end point isn't even made yet

[urban root]

1 freight car is 32 stacks

[bitter lodge]

[true mulch]

One way to solve this is to build it for N freights and then add or remove some depending on how the system will do

[lofty forge]

do 14 seperate items mean 14 seperate stops?

[bitter lodge]

so plenty of space- Im gonna do 7 cars, and split each belt to go into 2 cars

[bitter lodge]

Nope. Just the final products of my iron/steel factory gonna be moved to my central base (once its made)

[weary perch]

i have upgraded my power storage capacity by 32%

i can store 32% more power for whenever i have a blackout relative to last time :D

i have like 2.8 floors of the big monolith, a small platform out in the middle of nowhere, and one full floor of the second monolith allocated to power storage and only power storage

by my guesstimate it should be 10-12 hrs of continuous power if ALL of my nuclear goes out

[lofty forge]

item stack sizes and round trip time seriously affects the answer to that question

[thin pilot]

It’s like 1000m ish I belive distance and I doubt it will be more then 270a min

I don’t know the exact recipe and exact amount being produced steel wise so sadly cannot tell you

[leaden ether]

You can load 14 items then take them to 6 different stations dropping them off as necessary (By spacing out depots, which is why very long trains can be big space wasters). Or you can go to 5 different stations picking stuff up and bringing it all back. Almost anything you want/need.

If the items are lower quantity you can stack them in one car/depot and use smart splitters to separate them at the other end.

[lost wagon]

man, the harder part of making factories is where to put the power without it clipping everywhere

[thin pilot]

I can send what my steel factory makes in screenshots

I wanna bring it to my main factory

Bc it’s right next to a pure copper and like 4 pure iron

[lofty forge]

1000m sounds like a tractor job, saves a lot on computer power and also prepares you better for the future (in case you want to increase the throughput)

[thin pilot]

K well that will be my next project after modular frame factory

Well I’ll be making 10/m of the thing that need modular frames

So I don’t even think it’s 60 steel a min needed

Ty for the help

[leaden ether]

Ooof, Pro Tip: When replacing a section of pipe in an established factory because you are not happy with the way it looks, be sure to replace it with the proper pipe level so you don't just walk a way and cause your entire factory to slow to a crawl -.- (I guess that goes for belts too, which I have done plenty of times)

[sturdy mural]

like the photosensitivity, autosave

[half scaffold]

I know that there is an interactive map on satisfactory-calculator, but is there one where I can mark off the slugs/artifacts as I find them?

Map Genie is usually my go-to for that, but they don't have it

[untold moat]

if you upload your save to SCIM, it also marks the ones off as well

[half scaffold]

Wow, that is fantastic!

[fierce granite]

after uploading the save you can also right click and click collet, and it will mark them off then too

[peak wasp]

So efficiency question

Am I allowed to have two items on one belt then separate it out with the smart splitters

[leaden ether]

Yes.

[lofty forge]

i dunno does merging the two items cause the items to be not delivered enough

[leaden ether]

Though depending on what you are doing it can cause issues you need to spend extra time resolving so sometimes it's great and sometimes seperate belts are simpler

[fierce granite]

yeah, just make sure that both items will never backup on the belt to block the other item

[peak wasp]

Basically I have cables and copper sheets on one line and it's delivering towards a circuit board and a computer factory

The copper sheets go towards circuits and the cables for computer's

[leaden ether]

You will need to separate them and bufer/overfow sink them separately at the destination to prevent backup blocking as Macie mentioned.

So if belting them between factories that way it might be worth it, but from one section/floor to another it really isn;t

[lofty forge]

oh and also if you are doing that you HAVE TO make sure that the belt is always moving (becuse different items) meaning no manifolds

[fierce granite]

use the 3 outputs on a smart splitter, with one being overflow to an awesome sink

[whole crystal]

whats the difference between pure and impure ore veins

[lofty forge]

simple: pure ones give more ore per minute

[whole crystal]

thank you

[lofty forge]

specifically impure: max 300, normal: max 600, pure: max 1200

[whole crystal]

damn

pure veins so much stronger

[timid rune]

generally if you are doing recycled rubber/plastic run for post-phase 5 shenanigans, do you have more plastic over rubber or you balance it out

last game production demand wise

[undone yarrow]

Adjust as needed as they're functionally 1:1

[elder apex]

depends on the recipes you use, I personally use about two/three times as much rubber as plastic. Others here seem to go through plastic like air

[stuck dagger]

I opened up my save for the first time since 1.1 and some of my foundations are missing, amazing

[remote wasp]

why isn't there a save and exit option?

[dense violet]

Because they didn’t put it in

[undone yarrow]

I feel like the sarcastic answer is because there is, saving then exiting

[leaden ether]

I just want to know why I need to click "Confirm" with every little menu item. "Are you sure you want to save this file? CONFIRM. your file was saved "CONFIRM" exit to desktop CONFIRM.

[remote wasp]

Well maybe I don’t want to make a named save every time I exit the game. I’d prefer a way to force an autosave type save that just gets replaced every time I exit.

[feral jay]

Woohoo starting up 1.1

Just at the point where I need to relocate the hub

[undone yarrow]

you can select an already existing save to overwrite

otherwise I dont see the difference between one labeled "end of session" that you make vs the game making outside a couple of seconds

[leaden ether]

It could just do a save to an auto save when exiting automatically if you didn't manually save and then just load the last save of any kind just like it does now. You could then just hit escape and exit to desk top nice and easy as an option.

[undone yarrow]

Aye, it wouldnt be the worst thing to have

[willow aurora]

where can I log a ticket ofr a game related issue?

[feral jay]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com

[willow aurora]

Thanks

[feral jay]

But it's all your fault

[ivory condor]

I had that happen to me too in my older saves, only it was foundations permanently disappearing in pre 1.0 saves after saving and reloading, thankfully that bug was fixed and I always keep save backups

But that was pretty fun having most of the foundations in my worlds disappearing into the shadow realm👀

[remote wasp]

tbh didn't realize that, that basically solves my issue, but still would be nicer to just click once

[latent prawn]

out of curiosity, did you start your save with 1.0 and continue it through the 1.1 beta, or fresh start with 1.1 experimental?

[feral jay]

The new tree-falling-down animation is awesome, but it's a bit much sometimes

[feral jay]

I started frsh with 1.0 and now 1.1

[latent prawn]

yeah, would be cool if it were kind of more random

[feral jay]

I did the experimental branch until I think update 6 or 7

[latent prawn]

yeah, anything pre-1.0 is kind of broken now, lol

[feral jay]

They finally gave me my priority mergers so I had to start fresh

[latent prawn]

i was really bummed to go back and see one of my old saves factories were all stopped due to the removal of the steel coated plate recipe

[feral jay]

I called out Snutt on a dev stream at some point

Well he articulated why the didn't want to add them but I... disagreed

Like dude, you added blueprints, and now I've blueprinted a priority merger

[latent prawn]

you know, when they announced the priority merger, i was like, cool, it'll be useful in a couple of spots, but overall nothing huge. since then, i've found a lot of places where it can be used that I never considered

[feral jay]

And it's a god awful ugly hack

(my blueprinted ones)

[boreal musk]

ive been using it much more than i anticipated

[latent prawn]

yeah, that old priomerge with the sequence of splits and merges until 1/x ~= 0 is ugg, lol

[boreal musk]

its much easier now to prioritize main line or byproduct

[latent prawn]

its just little odd places like in my biomass->jetpack fuel build to prefer materials coming from leaves over wood or fungus

[feral jay]

In my case it's more that I have a few refineries spread about, and I want the material from refinery X to go to factory Y, before it sends to factory Z

[latent prawn]

the one absolutely amazing use case for it is actually with default alumina solution to prioritize the byproduct silica over what you need to import by train, but there's tons of other uses

[feral jay]

And all that was possible without "priority mergers" witghout the 1/x^infinity merger

But since it's already porssible, just let me have it in a buildable

[atomic notch]

prio mergers make injection manifolds so easy

[latent prawn]

yeah, not many things couldn't be done before it existed, it just makes building some things a little less work

[leaden ether]

Now do the same for liquids! And yeh you can imitate a liquid priority merger using height differences but similarly... kind of a pain

[feral jay]

I get them with liquids, they use a... complicated engine for that

[latent prawn]

with liquids, i still avoid any tricksy tricks and just make my pipes as simple as possible

[atomic notch]

just gotta get quartz purification then the aluminum plant is done

[feral jay]

lol on this game I still haven't built the space elevator

[latent prawn]

when i get over burnout, quartz purification is the next project

[atomic notch]

its fine we all progress at different speeds

[gentle cape]

spend 500 hours on building a barebones factory

[atomic notch]

im at that point rn

[feral jay]

Speak for yourself, I progress at ludicrous speed

:p

[atomic notch]

just get burnout from a different game

pro tip

[latent prawn]

yeah, you do something different for a while and come back

helps if you jot down some notes though, lol

[feral jay]

haha me too, I was playing FFX with like a hundred hours in when the game got softlocked because my disc hs a defect

[atomic notch]

mtg arena will burn u out rq

[boreal musk]

would be nice, but i never rely on vip junction, i just separate liquid byproducts to its own system

[frozen falcon]

Got the most viable setup for getting a lot of a resource far from my base

[latent prawn]

i play some of that, gotta say the new card set is kinda pissing me off 😛

[feral jay]

I call those "Conveyor Belts"

[frozen falcon]

#screenshots and next time I'll bring even MORE

[frozen falcon]

I call that thirty portable miners

Why make dozens of conveyor belts when you can just get thirty portale miners, mine thousands and be fine?

[feral jay]

You haven't lived until you've dropped a hundred

[frozen falcon]

I'm starting small you see

The closest quarts is like

500 meters from me

[leaden ether]

That is a way of making it reliable though sometimes it feels like you are building an entire mini factory, sometimes just to end up sinking the output, just to deal with it when a simple "underflow valve" would suffice :)

[atomic notch]

what should i do with 900 quartz crystall tho? not gonna worry about for now just sink haha

[frozen falcon]

Obtain more

[atomic notch]

900 per minute

[boreal musk]

1k hrs of playing and i never a single time place a valve for my every fluid system

[frozen falcon]

Room for even more

[leaden ether]

Make pink diamonds

[atomic notch]

ooh

[feral jay]

That's because valves are afwul

[atomic notch]

thx

[boreal musk]

ye, their numbers arent really accurate, which is why i never use them

[feral jay]

Oh they're... accurate

Just depends on your definition of "accurate"

[boreal musk]

no, its off by decimals

[atomic notch]

they work fine but for what? i have no clue

[frozen falcon]

Okay 3k quartz should serve me fine demporarily

[feral jay]

THe issue with valves in this game is that we thing of them as garden hose valves, when they behave more like oil pipeline valves

They don't work unless the pipes are full

[leaden ether]

Heh infact the only time I tried using a valve and left it installes was to limit the flow from a fill in junction becuse of the absense of a priority valve. It actually helped.. some, but did not make the system actually stable.

[feral jay]

What else is new witrh 1.1, other than elevators, tube junctions, and priority mergers?

[leaden ether]

Trees literally explode when you cut them down now

[frozen falcon]

Chat I wonder if this game has mods

[atomic notch]

nah

[feral jay]

Yeah that's cool, but can be annoying

[frozen falcon]

Shame, it's ripe for modding

[atomic notch]

ficsit.app

[leaden ether]

.>

[feral jay]

Oh yes, looking forward to the new belt counters, too

I had a mod for that

But if I loaded the game without mods, it broke those belts

[atomic notch]

i usually know whats on belts but would be a cool decoration

[feral jay]

I hate that

[leaden ether]

It's nice that they put in vertical nudging but infinate nudge is still a necessity IMHO

[feral jay]

Wait what can infinite nudge still do that vanilla can't?

[boreal musk]

its already infinite?

1.1 added infinite nudge

[leaden ether]

OH! "Straight" mode for pipes, thankyou. ANd curvy mode if you want to get weird

[feral jay]

haha curvy belts are just weird

[leaden ether]

It added one small part of infinate nudge.

[feral jay]

INFINITE

SPELL IT RIGHT

[atomic notch]

infint

[leaden ether]

I also can;t spell "definate"

[feral jay]

DEFINITE

[atomic notch]

infintinite

[feral jay]

SPELL IT RIGHT

(sorry)

[sterile blade]

Belts throughput monitors

[atomic notch]

cant

[leaden ether]

It's how you know I'm not an AI

[undone yarrow]

Eye Tea Arr Eye Gee Huch Tea

[feral jay]

I just use lots of em dashes still—it confuses people

[atomic notch]

i might actually be an ai

idk

[feral jay]

We might all be

[atomic notch]

o man i gotta build anotha train

[feral jay]

Honestly that pissed ,e off. A new way for trains to crash, but not a new way to route them

[atomic notch]

eh i just do push pull anyway

[feral jay]

This game could SO benefit from train logic of some rudimentary kind

[atomic notch]

i heard smth about a logic dlc

[feral jay]

Coffee Stain can pound sand if they ask for money for that

Give me a new map

It'll just make savegames less shareable

[lost wagon]

how long does it take for these dumb pieces of rock disappear after you blow it up, because it'a not allowing me to put the miner lmao

[feral jay]

It's violence. If it doesn't work, use more.

[lost wagon]

it's the mortal kombat version of rocks, it was one small boulder and the pieces after blowing up are enough for 7

[feral jay]

damn you, now the Mortal Kombat theme song is in my head

[leaden turret]

first map took 6-8 years

[feral jay]

Fuck you I'm long enough in the tooth to recall the first movie

[feral jay]

Yeah

And a single person making it

[leaden turret]

small team

[feral jay]

But, it's a DLC I'd pay for

[leaden turret]

in another 6-8 years

[feral jay]

yep

It's quite possibly the most beatiful handcrafted map I've ever played on

What other work has Hannah done?

[leaden turret]

that's all the handcrafted eggplants

[leaden turret]

check her imdb

[feral jay]

Well yes of course I could do that, I was asking for opinions

(actually, could you link me?)

[leaden turret]

there's only one other thing listed 😅 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm13041900/

[feral jay]

Wow, that's... sad

She's amazing

What a world she created with this game

[leaden turret]

that's all the handcrafted eggplants

[feral jay]

Nah, the killer bees

Pretty sure that was from her head

I just fought a few of those eggplant-killer-bee thingies

Gotta go for the head

[leaden turret]

flying crabs

[feral jay]

yeah

[leaden turret]

and those aren't the eggplants I'm referring to

[feral jay]

The game has eggplants?

Can I kill thm?

[leaden turret]

I'm using the word euphemistically

[feral jay]

yeah I just don't know what you're referring to

[leaden turret]

Well there's one in the dune desert with a slug right on top

[feral jay]

yep, gotcha

heh just unlocked jump pads

Never used them much

[fast lotus]

can someone tell what the current most efficient fuel recipe is

is it the fuel + dilute fuel one

[boreal musk]

hor + diluted (packaged) fuel

[fast lotus]

hor?

[feral jay]

Diluted Fuel >*

[scarlet summit]

safaistoy

safisfasicory

[feral jay]

Drink much?

[scarlet summit]

no

[ivory condor]

I did start a new playthrough, but those really old pre 1.0 saves that had those issues

Aka think update 1 saves

[scarlet summit]

mabye q little

igo

[fast lotus]

ahh hor heavy oil residue. lol

[feral jay]

I've never done pacckaged anything

Nah I don't want to deal with automating rotors right now

It's late

[fast lotus]

the og rotor factory i made in the first 2 hours of the game is still the only ne im still using lol

[feral jay]

I've got foundations nailed down but I don't want to deal with walls

And hey this game takes months

[atomic notch]

i did for bringin nitrogen to the base

and my bio burners ig

[delicate spruce]

Just got to phase 4 and now I feel like I can play

[atomic notch]

congrats u finished the tutorial

[winged willow]

Damn I didnt know Electroboom was here with us lol

[feral jay]

But I am

[abstract trail]

Who are you?

[feral jay]

The Alpha and the Omega

[abstract trail]

Bro has brainrot

Thats depressing

[atomic notch]

rip

[feral jay]

RIP Hannah, you made a beautiful world, I hope you move on to bigger things

[leaden turret]

snow biomes

[abstract trail]

Who is this hannah person

[leaden turret]

narrative lead and world design lead

[sour ledge]

anyone else end up back towards their starter base for whatever reason in the late game and look at it for a sec going "What was this all for?"

[abstract trail]

No because i just embrace the spaghetti

[tropic bear]

anyone have any issues with satisfactory modeler going into standby?

[abstract trail]

Just 1 base

Upgraded many times

[atomic notch]

i never left

[sour ledge]

man i left ages ago - my rail network just slowly expanded and i built bases further and further out

[atomic notch]

yeah i just have a bunch of trains bringin everything in lol

[sour ledge]

i just flew back for the hub and saw a bunch of factories producing random iron stuff that just feeds into storage for seemingly no reason and was like "???"

[atomic notch]

its getting crazy

had to stack my limeston train on top of a different staion, trains goin everyhwere

think i jst hit 11 trains

[flat patio]

Will I get more game lag if I am using splitters to make tighter turns? effectively only using the input/ouput of the splitter

[atomic notch]

youd have to build a lot to get lag lol

[cloud salmon]

Do you ever need any ingots for anything other than for crafting into something else?

[atomic notch]

i dont think so

[latent prawn]

wdym? ingots are usually first level prod step for anything

[atomic notch]

other than like decoration, u can place on shelves or smth

[cloud salmon]

but hypothetically if you were allergic to ingots and couldn't ever hold them in your inventory, would that stop you from doing anything

[atomic notch]

no

[cloud salmon]

I thought maybe you needed some for Tier 0 but I double checked and it's just plates and rods and stuff

oh wait, you need ingots for the MAM

[latent prawn]

ahh, yeah, understanding the question now, no 'ingots' are used as building material, so you don't need to set up containers in your mall for them

[cloud salmon]

you CAN skip the MAM and still do the space elevator but yeah

[atomic notch]

well early game maybe

i dont usually care much for p1-3

[latent prawn]

the kinda-sorta exception is that quartz cyrstal and silicon, which are kinda like ingots are building materials for signs & windows

i guess reanimated SAM is sort of that way as well

[boreal musk]

you need caterium ingot to research quickwire, but thats one time and only need 50 of those

no reason to store them in storage

[cloud salmon]

The question was inspired by the no crafting challenge; I was thinking about whether or not you could make it far enough to unlock smelters with no way to get ingots. Then I thought about whether or not you need to have ingots at any point in the game.

[atomic notch]

only 1 way to find out ig, play the no crafting challenge

[boreal musk]

just search some drop pods and find wires to build smelter, that way you can get ingots without handcrafting it

[atomic notch]

cant get portable miners until you unlock the alt tho

[fathom shuttle]

You can dismantle drop pods for materials

I learned that way too late to be useful for my playthrough but it would have been awesome to know before hand

[fathom shuttle]

What do portable miners need?

[atomic notch]

the alt is plates and pipes

[arctic swallow]

But then you need to be in the tier where you have steel

To unlock that recipy

[atomic notch]

yeah its just gonna suck

[arctic swallow]

You are softlock at the very start

You can make a rule that you can craft only one miner

That way you can progress but without it no way

[atomic notch]

i think you should be able to make 50 smart plaing without a miner lol

[boreal musk]

you still can, you manually fed the smelter

without portable miner, you are mining the ores yourself

[atomic notch]

son, you are the portable miner

[arctic swallow]

Ohh yeah i forgot you can mine manually

[atomic notch]

💀 i forgor

i dont think you need to tho theres plenty of mats layin around

no handcrafting run is basically just shittier early game

[arctic swallow]

Just enslav....i mean employ your friends

[atomic notch]

if you try to employ me ima just cheat and craft portable miners lol

[arctic swallow]

😭

[atomic notch]

no handcrafting means no hoverpack, ill pass on this one

[junior laurel]

Hope the free blade runners and basher was mentioned for this no handcrafting thing

[wet juniper]

is their no way to rotate windows 90degrees?

[open oxide]

im going to forget that one time i flew so high up i went past the station and saw the entire texture map for the clouds 😊

[ivory condor]

No handcrafting means you won't even progress past landfall

[open oxide]

could you beat satisfactory with only temporary nodes?

(excluding sam)

(WAIT)

with only temporary nodes and doggo

[ivory condor]

If they have enough resources yes

[open oxide]

doggo has a chance to give 1 single sam

[junior laurel]

Not if I kill all the doggos on sight

[open oxide]

TO HELL WITH THEETO HELL WITH THEETO HELL WITH THEETO HELL WITH THEETO HELL WITH THEETO HELL WITH THEETO HELL WITH THEETO HELL WITH THEE

[ivory condor]

Going to depend on resource amount in the nodes, depending on that you might be doomed

[open oxide]

yea.

but doggo :)

[junior laurel]

My kill count is qaud digits :)

[boreal musk]

windows are tied to foundation grid, if you want 90 degree just snap it to the other side of foundation and nudge it

[open oxide]

i have a doggo named "moe" and he literally gave me the resources for a milestone

on tier 5

[open oxide]

✝✝✝✝✝✝✝✝✝✝

[wet juniper]

i mean rotate so the windows are virtical

[shy mulch]

I have 10 doggos in a pen on my phase 0 challenge save, I've almost completed the MAM purely on stuff the doggos gave me

[ivory condor]

Going to turn into a mass click simulator then

[boreal musk]

cant, need a mod for that (infinite nudge)

[junior laurel]

Ngl if every node on the map was turned to SAM (in the lore this is not outside the realm of possibility).. and if you started with the converter... I think that woild be really fun to fuck around with

[open oxide]

i prefer infinite nudge over current verticle nudge

infinite nudge lets you make things float

[junior laurel]

I love not being Christian demon. These sticks have no effect on me mortal

[open oxide]

😨

[junior laurel]

I can already do that in vanilla?

[open oxide]

but like,

foundations 100 meters above death barrier :(

[junior laurel]

A thing you can do in vanilla?

[open oxide]

maybe

[ivory condor]

Imagine having gravity for buildables, then using infinite nudge bps with that, and watching as everything collapses before you

[junior laurel]

Hey look the UE5 crash reporter

[boreal musk]

1.1 literally introduced infinite and vertical nudge, wym

you can nudge as much as you want

[ivory condor]

I see the crash reporter often

[boreal musk]

the only thing vanilla doesnt have from infinite nudge mod is y axis rotation

[junior laurel]

We have become friends ^_^

[boreal musk]

and smaller increments

[junior laurel]

I am still waiting for that...

[fathom shuttle]

I’m so confused by the infinite nudge thing, can you nudge things with higher accuracy or does it mean vertical nudging?

[junior laurel]

-# that too

[ivory condor]

Im very good friends with the crash reporter, I know how to visit it anytime I want to

[boreal musk]

its just free nudge instead of the 8m limit

[junior laurel]

I have builds that need to be built.

[ivory condor]

For example turning on frame gen will make the game crash for me 100% of the time

[junior laurel]

Maybe dont do that

[junior laurel]

Haha thank god I have that in vanilla. I didn't even try to make good looking builds until the first exp for 1.1 dropped

[ivory condor]

I have learned frame gen is just a good way to visit the crash reporter, which is now my best friend

[fathom shuttle]

I see

[open oxide]

what i mean is that it will say "needs to be on a flat surface" or something like that

[junior laurel]

You just need to know how to play their games to get around it

[open oxide]

if i was arguing that it wasn't infinite in 1.1..

then I'm so thick in the skull there isn't enough space for a brain

[fathom shuttle]

Build on foundations

[open oxide]

and yes.

[fathom shuttle]

If it says surface is uneven then press H

[open oxide]

but me want floating float platform :(

[fathom shuttle]

Press h and build

[open oxide]

oh right

[boreal musk]

you literally can do that by locking the hologram by pressing H

[open oxide]

but what if its already in "locked" mode?

[boreal musk]

all within vanilla

[fathom shuttle]

Then you’re doing something very wrong

Or you’re encroaching on another object’s clearance

[open oxide]

.... why am i mad about this-

I LITTERALLY NEVER USE THIS!

WHY AM I ARGUING OVER SOMETHING I DONT USE???

[junior laurel]

That messages translates to "I'm a little bitch, I dont wanna share my ice cream"

[open oxide]

😨

[junior laurel]

Because you are on the internet and arguing over nothing is the best thing you have to do right now?

[fathom shuttle]

The aluminum scrap will need 7 belts that’s crazy

[open oxide]

actually. you have a point

thats life in 2025 i guess

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll build the aluminum factory on the side of the mountain so it overlooks my factory’s second floor

[open oxide]

👍

[junior laurel]

Either nothing is happening.
Or quite literally everything is happening all at once.

Please spread your events out more evenly

[fathom shuttle]

Then it goes down and the ingots are processed into sheets and casings, or used for FMF as ingots

But I don’t think my trains can handle 2760/min bauxite with just 2

[open oxide]

👍

i gtg.

[junior laurel]

Well back to killing lizard doggos to make our doggo burger

Sold at the food court for 12.99

[arctic swallow]

can i have a burger pleae?

[junior laurel]

Yeah, wanna try our new sauce?

(It's spicy)

[arctic swallow]

yes i hope it is mixed with nuclear waste

[atomic notch]

gimme that sam burger

extra spicy sauce

[junior laurel]

We've RAN out of SAM burgers. I ate them all...

[elder apex]

extra bacon agaric of course

[arctic swallow]

imagine you are eating a sam burger and it starts screaming for it's life

[atomic notch]

is that a sausage party reference?

[junior laurel]

... erm anyway im just making your burger, also yes it is uranium sauce

[arctic swallow]

huh?

[junior laurel]

#off-topic-media message

[arctic swallow]

nah bro tf is that it looks like a fever dream

[junior laurel]

It will give you dreams alright

[arctic swallow]

that looks exactly like it has uranium in it

[junior laurel]

Good!
Because it clearly does

[half scaffold]

Hmmm, I don't understand why my oil generators keep turning off and on again.
I have plenty of Fuel going to them, and there are no backups on the belt lines that would hold things up

[rare valley]

I just discovered this game. wholey moley. I may not have the brain cells for this

[shy mulch]

let them pre-fill

[junior laurel]

You trying to run 600 fuel through a single pipe?

[half scaffold]

300

[junior laurel]

I cheat by making diagrams and planning.

Or I just throw shit at the wall and maybe that will work

And yes let the pipes become full before turning on the generators

If they are still running out.. ta numbers are all right yeah?

[rough geode]

so uh i started playing again after a long time
nobody saw fit to tell me that they jump now??? smh i nearly died

[half scaffold]

300 Oil into 10 refineries, 5 doing plastic, 5 doing rubber. 3 refineries making fuel

[junior laurel]

What jump?

[half scaffold]

Yeah, I let them fill before I started them, and they run and 4-6 of the 8 will shut down for a 10-20sec but will come back online.
The pipes fluxtuate from about 50% to 90% full as it's running

[half scaffold]

OMG I hate those things!!!

[half scaffold]

The big stingers jump and they HUNT YOU DOWN!

[boreal musk]

math how much fuel are those 3 making and put the amount of gens needed to burn all of those

[junior laurel]

I just kill them with ma bashy stick

[boreal musk]

you can check the input slot inside machine's panel to see how much is the intake

[rough geode]

i dont mean that the character almost died
i mean my stomach fell out my butthole and i screamed like a little girl

[junior laurel]

Good.
That means they are working as intended

Be happy I didn't give them blade runners :>

[eager tartan]

Gang can I ask questions here or questions and help channel? I would ask there but it looks like it’s for like bugs type help

[junior laurel]

Actually; mod request

[junior laurel]

Really depends on the questions

[eager tartan]

More advice type

[half scaffold]

I feel you, I screamed the first time it happened. I HATE SPIDERS. I found a black widow in the basement. I came upstairs, packed a back and told my wife that we had to burn the house down.

[junior laurel]

Just ask the question

[boreal musk]

stinger with jetpack like johnny when

[eager tartan]

Basically like I’m using only 2 iron nodes, and I’m at stage 2 so I need a lot more iron but I feel like having the item transport belt would be hella wierd like across the map so how can I make it organized.

[junior laurel]

Nah... RnD gave Johnny the jetpack for shits and giggles. We here at FICSIT dont want to just repeat the same thing over and over, so putting blade runners on something that is already faster then you made perfect sense.

[half scaffold]

So 8 generators using 20/min fuel each for a total of 160/min.
The refineries were making 40 each, for 120 AND I'm siphoning off 4/min for canisters. So they were getting starved... Slowly.
overclocked the 3 to 150% so they are making 180/min now, and I shut down 4 of them to fill the pipes and put some in the buffers.

[junior laurel]

The first version played didn't have any of the spiders in, i went into a cave and it was lovely and calm. . Update. Go into same cave. An army of tiny bastards come at me and yes. Little girl noises in the vc

[half scaffold]

My daugher and teacup poodle take care of the spiders in this house

[junior laurel]

Truck?

[half scaffold]

My wife does snakes. I'll do damn near anything else

[junior laurel]

Teamwork! :>

That is more a #1038092680493801533 thing. I dont play as much multiplayer as I should, plus not even at my desk to help any. People in that channel tend to be quite responsive

Actually might be able to search to see if anyone else has had the same issue

[ripe basin]

I finished phase 3 the normal way, using multiple machines for everything and doing math

[junior laurel]

Phase 3 I scavenged most of the crash sites and used those to finish the 3rd and 4th stage will far less input from my normal factory.

Recycling :]

[south sinew]

is there a way to rotate foundation less than 45 degrees?

[junior laurel]

-# My muscle memory to words is failing me

Place a foundation below where you want the actual foundation to go, while looking at the flower foundation hold ctrl and mouse wheel to go in smaller 5 degree notches

[heavy mist]

only got 1 more floor left to build for 500+ fuel gens 😄

[ripe basin]

I am going to build some HMF's

[sleek tartan]

So, I was playing multiplayer with my friend and decided to ride the little pod that can get you the hyper tubes and all that. everything was fine until it disappeared and I got shot into the atmosphere. Can't get my stuff back now.. Help..

[ripe basin]

Did you have anything non-renewable like power slugs, mercer spheres or sloops?

[sleek tartan]

yep..

[junior laurel]

No crate anywhere on the map?

[sleek tartan]

nope

[short ibex]

bro we have 2

[junior laurel]

Might be at 0,0
Often like to hide there

[sleek tartan]

there was a marker, but when I went there it looked like nothing was in the spot

[junior laurel]

If ya at 0,0
You got to go
VOID DIVING

Apply appropriate guitar riff

[sleek tartan]

not at 0,0

quite near the edge of the map I think

[ripe basin]

Well
You are fucked
Dont do that again

[sleek tartan]

Yep I won't

[short ibex]

you tried to go to space

so funny

[sleek tartan]

wasn't worth it Bro

[short ibex]

no

[round gale]

Question for y'all, I gathered a TON of iron into one place. Like an obscene amount... What iron ingot recipe should I use

[pastel carbon]

Well, what are you making

[round gale]

Honestly idk yet lol

I got to T7-8 and decided to take steps slowly

So I'm trying to efficiently automate resources

Before I dive into the new stuff

For reference I'm getting over 15,000/Min of iron ore. Can't remember the exact amount

...

[junior laurel]

Pure iron is.. overkill and the water real estate can be used much better else where

[lofty forge]

considering you have A LOT OF iron ore just... smelters to save on space and power?

you can use the other recipes but then you will have to deal with even more iron ingots

[ember locust]

overkill in this situation or overkill in general ?

[round gale]

That is true but idk how much I'll need

I want to automate however much I'll need for this play through

[junior laurel]

With 15k, this situation. Also depends on where on the map ya are

[round gale]

I'm like bottom of the map in the center... I'm building a massive iron smelting factory over a giant pit of death

[junior laurel]

Kindly reminder: overkill is underrated.

[junior laurel]

Really? Inbetween blue crater and the fields?
Interesting spot

[lofty forge]

entrance to the uranium cave?