satisfactory

[broken thorn]

I just forgot the link

[sullen gull]

Imo, only thing that ever may "need" balanced is any nuclear material 🤷‍♂️

[broken thorn]

Don't even mention nuclear near me

760 hours in the game and never touched nuclear

currently making 300GW from rocket fuel and never getting close to it

[sullen gull]

It's fun, should try it

[broken thorn]

😔

[sullen gull]

I'm being genuine though...

[leaden ether]

Nuclear was the most fun/satisfying project in my first 850 hour save.

[broken thorn]

If I ever run out of power, and slooping my rocket fuel production isn't enough ( I'd get about 500-600GW ), then maybe I'll do nuclear ( my current consume is only 20GW )

Jokes aside once I have nothing else to do I might just fuck it and do nuclear for the funzies

but I'd probably stack up on plutonium waste

ficsonium seems too much of a hussle

[leaden ether]

Building a nuclear plant isn't really about power as yeah, jet fuel plants are plenty. It's about doing it.

[sullen gull]

Nuclear isn't "hard", its just a lot to build, if you don't already have throughput from earlier factories.

[dense violet]

just don't burn the p rods

[fathom shuttle]

Why?

[dense violet]

if yo udon't want to deal wit hteh waste?

plus you could use it in drones and trucks

[fathom shuttle]

Plutonium produces a lot less waste, you can just store it lol

[dense violet]

you can argue the same with uranium. Space is effectively infinite

[sullen gull]

But you would have to continuously build storage

[dense violet]

I just don't like the idea of permanent waste and ficsonium doesn't pique my interest that much

[sullen gull]

Not truely "automated"

[leaden ether]

Yeah.. -.- the uranium waste qty is unwieldy massive with any decent sized plant.

[fathom shuttle]

You can build a lot of storage very quickly with blue prints

[dense violet]

you'd be surprised, you can build 10,000 hrs of storage of it pretty quick even for a full uranium rod production line

[leaden ether]

I stopped at sinking the plutonium on my last save but this save I'[m going to see it throughj to the end just because

[broken thorn]

wouldn't I be missing on a hundred GW or sum

[sullen gull]

That doesn' negate anything though.

[sullen gull]

I sink and use as drone fuel.

[dense violet]

depends what you value. Full uranium rod with alt recipes gets you like 600gw

more than you'll ever realistically need

[sullen gull]

It's fun getting the random radation spike when a drone buzzes near 🤣

Err, wait, no that was the drones crarrying uranium.. nm

[broken thorn]

tbh just install a mod with infine container 😂

[prisma forge]

do sinks only consume energy when they're being used?

[broken thorn]

ye

Idk prob

[dense violet]

it'd take away from the problem solving aspects for me. Same reason I don't use conversion and sloops

[prisma forge]

hm, that might explain the slight change in power consumption

[dense violet]

often the case yes

[broken thorn]

sad truth: you can't sink the sink

the flat con. rate in impossble

[dense violet]

not trying hard enough

[prisma forge]

technically yes since you can sink the materials needed to make them

[broken thorn]

the solution tbh is just instead of using sinks to overflow, just have a 1000 hour storage for every item you produce

: )

[dense violet]

get a mod where hogs eat everything

[broken thorn]

tf

will they eat me?

[dense violet]

who can know?

[broken thorn]

what about my somersloop b ro

[dense violet]

but probably

[broken thorn]

imagine he ate my HUB part bro 😭

[fathom shuttle]

For 300GW with plutonium, or with 50 reactors you’ll be making 125/min or 1 stack per 4 minutes, 1 ISC would give you 3.2 hours. You can fit at least a dozen in a single blueprint, if you spend an hour or two building the storage it will guarantee that you will never have any issues with waste backing up

[broken thorn]

( only og's remember )

[prisma forge]

speaking of which, I have to make a new blueprint full of containers. The one I have now is from a mk1 blueprint designer

[broken thorn]

I can fit over 1000 of those in a 20x20x20 bp designer lol

3200 hours with 1 click

[fathom shuttle]

Yea exactly, 500 per stack makes storage a very viable option

[broken thorn]

wait 3,2 hours times 1000 isn't 3200 hours

I'm stupid

[fathom shuttle]

If you’re sinking them you’re wasting a lot of power that you could be making

[broken thorn]

let me grab a calc

[fathom shuttle]

… it is

[broken thorn]

ye checks out on the calc

💀

[half scaffold]

Is there a way to use a splitter (priority or programable) in front of a storage container so it only goes to the other output when the container is full and backs up to the splitter?

[fathom shuttle]

Time to brush up on the arithmetic classes bro

[half scaffold]

Trying to make an overflow valve to the sink

[sullen gull]

Put it behind the container.

[dense violet]

smart splitter, any going into container, overflow wherever you like

[broken thorn]

If you're making power you're wasting the points you could be sinking tho

2 ways to view it

[fathom shuttle]

I guess, but by the time you built nuclear you already have things that give way more points

[sullen gull]

Or a third, not dealing with waste means it's not "automated" ... in the end, do ya reeeeeally save the day? 😏

[half scaffold]

Then the container just empties into the sink, I want the container to always be full.

[half scaffold]

How do you actually set it up though?

[sullen gull]

Put the smart splitter behind the container, and set one out to overflow, send that output to the sink

[broken thorn]

Is transporting uranium through air a good idea? If the drone crashes my water suply is cooked

[fathom shuttle]

It makes the water tastier

[broken thorn]

what does uranium taste like

[dense violet]

smart splitter right in front of container,
outpout to container - any
output to the right - overflow

[fathom shuttle]

Sweet, sour and creamy

[broken thorn]

Creamy?

Sweet and sour?

dawg

☠️

[ember locust]

metal probably. i dont know though im not a uraniologist

[broken thorn]

can you test it for me?

it's recommended to send in the results within 1 week

Don't worry, you'll have the rest of your life to send it

[ember locust]

yeah that sounds like a smart decision im on it

[prisma forge]

so I have a conveyor belt running iron ore and limestone. Is there a way I can make it run in this order?

Iron - Limestone - Limestone - Iron

Rn it's just running one after the other and splitting them right afterwards

wait nvm I figured it out

priority merger is my friend now

[fathom shuttle]

Man concrete manifolds take forever to saturate

[dense violet]

concrete stacks to 500, always the case

[fathom shuttle]

Well the good news is that my HFM project is pretty much done, just need to place down the manufactures

[west jackal]

is converter t9?

[dense violet]

!wikisearch converter

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=converter

[west jackal]

it looks goofy lol

[fathom shuttle]

I forgor to do the blueprint

How do I organize the splitters for the manufacturers? I always spaghetti’d them

[maiden notch]

OK so. How the hell would you get circuit boards with Pet Coke and Rubber irl?

[west jackal]

i found a bug with the satisfactorytools 😦

when i did maximize fuel, for whatever reason it has byproduct of HOR when its also using some HOR for fuel

(this is in a whole other process

[lime ermine]

I suggest looking at imkibitz's video where he builds a manufacturer manifold blueprint, it looks good and works well. I think the videos called my best blueprint ever or something

[weary perch]

i seem to have lost two entire fucking nuke plants

what even happened??? that's like 1/6th of my ENTIRE energy production

[fathom shuttle]

Concrete is done W

Heavy modular frames not concrete

I’m making 20/min now , gonna sink them

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I saw that, I’ll probably make a blueprint copying his design but my janky design will stay for now

[weary perch]

routing actually important, no, vital trains close to eachother is very stressful

i have one carrying extra uranium for fuel overhead

[fathom shuttle]

240k/min points , will probably go down to 190k/min

[weary perch]

and one carrying oil for making filters so i dont die ;-;

[fathom shuttle]

Hmm it seems like I don’t have enough space for aluminum

Actually I do, if I overclock everything except the constructors and smelters

[lament niche]

your mom is goofy

don't insult the converter, it has low self esteem

[dense violet]

as i nthe buildings are gone or just not getting enough fuel?

[fathom shuttle]

So it seems the only use for HMF is FMF lol, I guess I should set up my aluminum production now

I have nitrogen nearby so this is pretty much perfect

[compact aspen]

I've played for hours today. "Today my goal is to expand my fuel power plant from 8 fuel generators." ...almost immediately ran into issues and spent the entire time troubleshooting. Ultimately, the only progress I've made is adding one additional fuel power generator to my grid... lol.

[half ledge]

anybody trynna play rn 😄

[minor rock]

i like doing it this way #screenshots
you can do similar with balanced

[fathom shuttle]

It happens, sometimes I get too distracted and get nothing done

[fathom shuttle]

Yo this is so neat

Lemme show you how I did it lol

[minor rock]

XD

the balanced version is cooler and still neat but takes up more space naturally

i dont think i have it setup any longer

[weary perch]

holy shit that could have been messy, my entire steel plant just went kaput because ONE smart splitter decided not to work

[minor rock]

haha that takes me back

ended up with very similar

[weary perch]

surprised i found the issue so fast but that could have actually brought my entire world to not just it's knees but face-down into the dirt

[fathom shuttle]

It takes up so much space lol

[weary perch]

the reason the steel is so important is mostly the fact i primarily use steel canisters

[fathom shuttle]

More than the manufacturers footprint in belting and lifts lol

[weary perch]

it killed my ENTIRE aluminum production worldwide

i managed to upgrade one small plant to use the extra water as fuel for a few coal gens

[white oar]

It kills me waiting for Satisfactory on console 😫

[weary perch]

i tried to load it off a 3.5" server hdd once. it was hell.

[white oar]

Is it so bad to want to turn a thriving planet into an Amazon warehouse

[white oar]

Crazy (idk what that means)

[fathom shuttle]

Just do what I did, I play it on GeForce now lol

[weary perch]

i would be scared that my entire nuclear production was offline but i use this thing called power storage so i have NINE HOURS to fix it

:3

*is offline

[white oar]

I would, but my computer is bunz

[weary perch]

there is ONE plant still online

help ;-;

[fathom shuttle]

It literally works on anything

Even on the shittiest of hardware

[minor rock]

game streaming for the win

[weary perch]

the fact my entire world depends on this smart splitter seperating this overflow rubber into a shredder is terrifying

if it stops the ENTIRE STEEL FOUNDRY will die

[white oar]

I know it works, that's how I have 127 hours on my 10fps work laptop

[boreal musk]

theres a reason why stress testing is very important especially with huge power plant so you can locate where the problems are before starting the entire plant

[white oar]

I'm just waiting for the bliss of seeing shaders on my playthrough

[weary perch]

yep, i've done THREE full-nuclear-outage "tests"

[fathom shuttle]

How fast are drones btw? 2km journey

[weary perch]

(one was actually a disaster which resulted in the rebuilding of my entire fuel rod production plant)

the other two were legitimate tests

[fathom shuttle]

10fps? What laptop are you using

[white oar]

Shitty one

[fathom shuttle]

Any devices can run GFN as long as it’s from 2015 and later

[weary perch]

ok thank god, the steel flows once more, now to wait till it disperses into the rest of my world

[white oar]

I dont know when it was bought but it was a while ago

[fathom shuttle]

Just copy and paste the model into Google, it will reveal a lot more info

[white oar]

For clarification, I used steam not GFN. Id need to make an account and buy in on there

Mb

[fathom shuttle]

Tbf, I have a very old laptop with 4gb of ram that gets 20fps and gets maxed out from the decoding process lol. It’s from 2012 I think

[fathom shuttle]

Get a day pass or try it on the free tier, see how you like it

[white oar]

Good idea brochacho🙏

[fathom shuttle]

Damn bro drones need fuel

Do they take coal?

[dense violet]

oil fuel and upwards only

[fathom shuttle]

Sucks, I guess the train is inevitable

[dense violet]

just make fuel xD

siphon some off your fuel power station if you have one

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I think i can spare some fuel

[dense violet]

you're likely making resin there too you can turn to containers

[white dawn]

Can always do both, of course. No reason why you can't have both trains and drones. :)

[boreal musk]

i think ill make packaged fuel plant for trucks

and rf for drones

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I’ll be doing trains

[dense violet]

alum expensive

[fathom shuttle]

Need to develop infrastructure in my world anyway

So two brids with one stone

[boreal musk]

im aware it use a lot of empty tanks, but im going to use all the baux in the map anyway, 2-3k alu for tank isnt a problem

[fathom shuttle]

3k aluminum is crazy

[boreal musk]

altho i might also need to redirect all the plutonium rods into drone fuel too

[sour ledge]

y'know, since i automated nobelisks i figured i'd set 'em up with a train station to ship off to future production of Better Nobelisks, which seems like good prep.

But uh... a train station full of bombs feels strangely alarming...

[bitter lodge]

technically you can get 12300 alu, so ya 2-3k ain't nothing when you have that much

[lament niche]

I liek trains

[wary crypt]

My poor lizard doggo princess blubbergut got stuck and we had to kill her😭

[lament niche]

good

lizard doggos bad

[fathom shuttle]

When does summer sale start?

[tranquil hemlock]

Nothing quite like the loud clank and sound of machines powering down when you try to connect the next production line 🥲

[lament niche]

a fitting punishment for lizard doggo enjoyers

[fathom shuttle]

Power storage my friend

[tranquil hemlock]

Show us on the doll where the lizard doggo hurt you

[fathom shuttle]

500 dna capsules lets go

[tranquil hemlock]

New save XD Only just getting around to the space elevator. So still got some time before getting power storage

[fathom shuttle]

Yea it sucks at first lol

1500 dna capsules total

I’ll save up till like 10k then sink them all at once for the golden nut

[sterile blade]

It's around the "Snutt left wuwu" point

[left totem]

i just woke up at 6:30, 2 nightmares back to back

especially the kind I hate the most, the nightmares where it's a loop of distorded reality where everyone wants me dead or hurt and i can't leave them

anyone tips to NOT have nightmares ?

[leaden ether]

Play more Satisfactory, you're dreams will be all about belt and pipe balancing (Wait that's not really "not" a nightmare is it...)

[cyan garnet]

Do androids pioneers dream of electric sheep control rods?

[left totem]

I have had 3 dreams about video games in 17 years, 2 of hypixel sb and one of valorant

[fresh venture]

so frustrating. there is no reason these blenders should not be getting enough sulfuric acid but it's just not flowing. i don't get it.

i have a refiner producing 100 per minute sulfuric acid running at 100%. no issues. it's feeding 5 blenders that need 10 sulfuric acid each and they keep stalling because not enough SA. all machines in a line. no headlift......suggestions

i knew i shouldn't have painted the pipes copper

[leaden ether]

Are they all stalling or like just the one at the end of the line (Assuming using a manifold design for the connection?)

[cold fable]

slap a pump on one anyway and see if it works.

[fresh venture]

4/5 stalling. one at the end of the manifold is full....

[left totem]

are you sure that the refiner has 100%uptime ?

were your pipes full before launching the machines ?

[fresh venture]

yup 100%. i bumped it up to double required still no luck

i through some valves on it to make sure everything is flowing the right way

[left totem]

shouldn't use valves

they're weird

[atomic notch]

eh

[cold fable]

double check the pipe is actually connected by replacing it. also I would shut off the blenders to fill the pipes and the refinery with SA and then turn them on

[left totem]

just let the game automanage pipes

[atomic notch]

if u know what youre doin valve work fine

[fresh venture]

ok trying....

[atomic notch]

nothin weird

[left totem]

if you know what you're doing, you wouldn't have problems with pipes

[leaden ether]

For a 5 machine fluid manifold I'd feed it in the center rather than at one end as well.

[fresh venture]

ok will try that now....

[atomic notch]

yeah but valves are pressure sensitive full pipes should'nt effect anything and if valves are open its no different than sticking a pump on

[cold fable]

I've never had issues with where i feed pipes. as long as the pipes are full when i start the machine up

[left totem]

ive never had any issues with pipes at all (except with my first coal factory)

[atomic notch]

its prolly just a misplaced pipe anyway

[cold fable]

i've had issues with fluid buffers, but never pipes

[atomic notch]

theres special way to set up buffers that will make it work

only really need em for fluid trains tho

[fresh venture]

yeah this is mental. they just will not take the acid.

[atomic notch]

are they on?

[fresh venture]

yup. just one is filling to max. the others are.................put putting

[atomic notch]

which one is filling?

[fresh venture]

the centre one. since im now feeding it from that one

[atomic notch]

check the pipe connections

is there still valves?

[fresh venture]

i just redid all the pipes and junctions

[atomic notch]

could be limiting flow rate

[fresh venture]

no valves

[atomic notch]

idk man its weird

[boreal musk]

anyone's bp designer having weird invisible textures?

[atomic notch]

did u try restarting the game?

[boreal musk]

its always present, doesnt matter restarting or not

[atomic notch]

not u lol

[boreal musk]

[cold fable]

not in the BP designer specifically but i have had missing/invisible textures when placing buildings. only fix i've found is to just delete the structure and replace it

[fresh venture]

also where in TF is my residual sulfuric acid going?? lol i have nowhere for it to go yet they are still producing with none in the output.

[dense violet]

it's generally easier troubleshooting pipes in #math-and-meta or with a #1038092680493801533 post, as you can post images of the layouts and don't get a lot of people breaking up the chat flow

[boreal musk]

its always been a problem for me since exp

idk how to fix it

[fathom shuttle]

Reinstall

[fresh venture]

ok threw a shard in each blender and dumped the production down to .25%. all full with SA. lets see.....

[cold fable]

rather then a full reinstall if you are running it on steam just check file integrity first

[dense violet]

is this a process where you get waste acid too?

[fathom shuttle]

Post a screenshot

[fresh venture]

yes sir.

[dense violet]

oof and your acid is getting cloged?

[peak wasp]

Hi

[fresh venture]

yeah. and now weirder shite is happening. blenders still acting like they are limited to .25 lol

[dense violet]

ok well lets see if we can at least figure out yoru acid. Can you do an overhead shot that shows the machines + how the fresh and waste acids are piped and fed? #math-and-meta or #1038092680493801533 work

[half scaffold]

Is there a way to craft ONLY from inventory and NOT use the dimension storage?

[fresh venture]

what i tried to do was get the whole thing up and running and then just use the waste acid to feed the blenders instead of using the refinery acid. was t hat bad

acid is working now. im just going to package up the waste and sink it lol.

[dense violet]

I'd have to see the layout of what you're doing and how you fed them back in. It can be very good or very tricky

[dense violet]

that will mean you'll need to bring in more acid and packages and eveyrthing. There's a very simple solution to this sort of thing though

[fathom shuttle]

Kinda regretting not making more HMF tbh

But whatever, I don’t think I’ll need more than 20/min FMF

The bigger issue is that I’ll need 1k/min aluminum casings for FMF

wtf is this bro

[dense violet]

do heat fused instead. Save 33% alum

[fathom shuttle]

No it’s actually 1.5k

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I see that recipe

[dense violet]

it's a pretty huge alum savings for little oil

[fathom shuttle]

What about nitric acid tho, how do I craft it?

[dense violet]

assuming you do HOR / Dilute

[dense violet]

acid takes a little bit of iron to gas

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I can spare some

[dense violet]

iirc it uses about the same amount of gas per cube

[fathom shuttle]

I have 300/min free ingots so that’s nice

[dense violet]

you won't need anywhere near that much. You actually need Iron plates, but easy step

[fathom shuttle]

Yea no problem

Means I’ll need to start my plastic and rubber factories first but that’s not a problem

[dense violet]

could also just drone in some packaged oil from another location and make a dedicated system

make the fuel for the drone on location 😄

[tropic plover]

I had no idea I could dismantle crash sites!!!!!

[fathom shuttle]

? Really

What do you get out of them

[dense violet]

1.1 new

[tropic plover]

Screws, copper rolls, metal plates, rotors, Strators, motors, wire

You cant dismantle the drop pod if you dont have the hard drive yet though, but can still dismantle everything else at the crash site

[half scaffold]

UGH! I hate when I can hear the chiming noise and can't find the slug or alien thing! I'm at 70, 2947 (rock formation with 4 smaller formations around it) and I canot find it. I just used bombs to try to blow everything up in the area to see if somethign was breakable... Nope, I can hear the chime LAGHING AT ME!

[dense violet]

probably a cave

[tropic plover]

Do you have the hand scanner?
Also sometimes it can be above you or below you in a cave

[fathom shuttle]

Meh I expected more tbh

[tropic plover]

Still, I wish I had know early game. Would have helped

[fathom shuttle]

Cave, or it’s in a rock that needs explosives

[dense violet]

it only became a thing in 1.1

[minor rock]

prob a cave , though there aren't many like that

[steady glade]

there's these 2 limestone nodes way up northwest on the beach, one is below the ground but ping shows above ground, do i need a special nobelisk?

[minor rock]

im right by that area let me check. coords ?

[steady glade]

-2794, -1211

[minor rock]

hmmm 🤔 the two nearest limestone on those coords are both above ground

looks like you need nobelisk for both. or just mine it

[fathom shuttle]

Turbo motors, fused modular frames and supercomputers make my head spin lol

It looks like I’ll need a separate floor for computers because I’m running out of space somehow

Doesn’t help that I have 160 fuel generators on the same floor lol

[leaden ether]

SOmeone was having that issue with items not going into thief machine. Now I can't get crude oil to go into a refiner. 😦 Pipes are all 100% full, power is on, but it's sitting idle :/ I never had this happen that I can remember on 1.0

[steady glade]

one of them (south one) is above ground, the other (#screenshots message) i'm standing on

there's no cracked ground and i already tried nobelisks

[dense violet]

is it on standby?

have you plugged it into the right port 😛 another common one

[steady glade]

update: the node doesnt appear, but i can place a miner

[minor rock]

lol

[leaden ether]

Ugh, yeah that second one, I knew as son as I mentioned it I'd see what happened. I installed my refineries all backwards. You know even after al this time to my brin Green means "Input". That's what I get for playing too late I guess..

23 of them all piped and belted up, have to tear them all out -.-

[dense violet]

happens to everyone

[minor rock]

i can get a 5090 at msrp, should i though 🤔

[steady glade]

nah

give it a few months

[dense violet]

I thought I had heard the 50 series was an overpriced bit of junk with bells and whistles that didn't stand up?

could be wrong

[steady glade]

pretty much yea

the performance increase is 90% ai generated frames

[dense violet]

that's what it was yeah

[steady glade]

the 5090 is not so different from 4090, the vram options are disappointing and the gaming perf increases are stupidly low, the best thing about it is being a consummer available ai chip

[small escarp]

Is there a channel where I can ask for specific mods if they exist? Or can I use this channel?

[fossil ice]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @dense violet

[dense violet]

or visit the modding website and do a search

probably faster

[small escarp]

THank you

[minor rock]

wel its not 4090 to 5090 its 3080

i would get a 4090 if i could find one

[rancid pumice]

Just a quick question on Elevators please. Am I able to have doors facing different directions? For example ground floor is facing north but second floor is facing south.

[sweet linden]

@minor rock lots of bitcoiners will be selling now the 4090's

[arctic swallow]

yes

you can rotate the floors

[minor rock]

what

[sweet linden]

what what?

[minor rock]

mining crypto isnt profitable on gpu

[sweet linden]

tell that to the bitcoiners

[minor rock]

the 4090s are going to china, to have bigger vram put on them, and sold as AI workstation cards

[sweet linden]

my friend bought a radeon xt7900 or semothing around, and is wondering why is that thing getting so hot 😂

[rancid pumice]

Got it thanks

[minor rock]

🤔 so if someone else is ming crypto, they didnt have to pay hardware or electricity? that sounds profitable

go look at a calculator

a 3080 used to be able to pull in like 5-10 USD / day

a 4090 today will make like 30 cents

[sweet linden]

okay, but crypto guys dont use 1 card

[minor rock]

if its not profitable on one card, it doesnt matter how much you scale it up by

[sweet linden]

im just sayin

[left arrow]

I had a pretty simple idea to make factory floors easier: a blueprint subcategory that's just a 1m foundation at various heights above ground.
#screenshots message

So I can just hold E to pick a height and then click to place the next floor above.

...making the height correspond to the icon's hue might have been overkill 😅

[fathom shuttle]

Does the employee of the planner cup carry over to other saves?

[sudden inlet]

ok so ive only been playing satisfactory for like 120 hours by this point... The last 7 and a half hours of my life were wasted on just setting up uranium production in a way that i can convert waste into plutonium. God help me because im not even done yet.

how the heck has someone beat 1.0 in under 11 hours????

[fathom shuttle]

That’s impossible

[sudden inlet]

someone did

ill find the vid and dm it to u

[fathom shuttle]

Not phase 4 or 5 for sure

[left arrow]

If you mean speedruns, there's glitches to get infinite power.

[sudden inlet]

yea, the dude had like 50 accelerators setup for his nuclear pasta in the end

if not more

[timid rune]

hmm do I want to convert my normal computer production setup to caterium

or leave it as is

[cursive crane]

Any% record is 8h 11m

[left arrow]

Sounds like a horrible category to run x)

precise inputs and thinking for 8h straight sounds like a nightmare

[shy mulch]

speedruns like that tend to have a huge amount of specific planning put in, there's almost no thinking required as you go along, it's like reciting an 8 hour choreographed routine

[arctic swallow]

i have 210h on my save and i havn't even started making a hmf set up

[fathom shuttle]

And I thought I was inefficient xD

[crude canyon]

Damn your factories must look amazing right?

[arctic swallow]

yeah just spend about 30h making traintrack across whole map, 80h making my refinery

[serene iron]

Does a tree grow back after cutting with chainsaw?

[left arrow]

I've never played past fuel production.
I have 530h of playtime on steam x)

[fathom shuttle]

Nope

[arctic swallow]

i am about to finish my last train station for trains to load oil

[left arrow]

I should learn how to make trains some day ^^

[arctic swallow]

it is very easy

[crude canyon]

I have 1000 hours and I beat phase 4 like 5 times

[arctic swallow]

i can teach you

[left arrow]

Thanks, but no need. I'm was mostly making fun of my own ability to sink a considerable amount of time replaying the start of a game.

just like how I have 286 hours of Baldur's Gate 3 and never left Act 1 x)

[minor rock]

why though

[left arrow]

🤷 I don't know why I'm like this, but sometimes I get obsessed on "doing it right" and I'll restart a game instead of picking up where I left after a hiatus.

[fathom shuttle]

I’d get bored after going through the same playthrough twice

[arctic swallow]

bro is doing sisyphus work

[left arrow]

Satisfactory intentionally prevents you from doing things right the first time, so yeah, it's not smart to restart a playthrough.

[arctic swallow]

if something isn't right then gaslight your brain into thinking it is right

[minor rock]

idk, could be related to ocd , does it plague your life or is just with games ?

def should push through, and try getting to the end

i feel the chaos is part of the game 😄

[stuck dagger]

what if restarting endless times to "do it right" is actually "doing it wrong"

If wrong is right and right is wrong, what happens then

[shy mulch]

There is no "wrong" way to play. There are a million different ways to play and all are equally valid. Do it whatever way gives you joy

[prime wadi]

yeah, with all these games the starting area is a mess best left alone as soon as possible, lol

[stuck dagger]

(Strictly speaking, playing only the intro of a game isn't "wrong" per se, but probably unintended)

It's like buying an appliance only to fool around with the magical self-regenerating bubble wrap imo

[left arrow]

Not to get too serious, but yes, I am seeing someone to help me get out of such habits.

[minor rock]

yeah, id at least keep my progress, and use the map editor to destroy everything

[arctic swallow]

i wonder how would satisfactory look like if it had random generated map

[left arrow]

I'm a programmer, and in compsci there's a saying that optimized code is code you've already written.

[minor rock]

good for you hey, those types of compulsions seem rly bothersome to deal with. my gf has ocd, but its got a lot better managed over the years

[shy mulch]

often this is true, but as with everything, there are exceptions

[fathom shuttle]

The rigor motor recipe looks perfect

[fathom shuttle]

Ts doesn’t apply to factory games lol

[left arrow]

Yes, it's less of a strict principle and more of a warning. If you're spending a week optimizing code to save RAM when the computer has way more RAM than it needs, you're not optimizing your time as the programmer.

[crude canyon]

@arctic swallow bros using all the oil in the world for his refinery

[arctic swallow]

well duh

that is the plan

[minor rock]

i will spend 3 days making it perfect and refactor it as it isnt suitable for my needs a week later xD

[arctic swallow]

had to rebuild it a few times

[minor rock]

do u happen to know much about UE? lol

[crude canyon]

How do you even layout something like this

Especially oil, with byproducts

[shy mulch]

years ago I worked for a company that bought and sold web ads, as lead developer, we had to have the ability to host images and redirect clicks at a wild rate, dealing with 5 figures of clicks per second was a challenge, made even more fun by tight server budgets, really was a good learning experience in how to optimize 🙂

[prime wadi]

less cool blueprints

[arctic swallow]

i planned how many building i need and started placing foundations and thats it

a lot of time was spend on wondering where to fit refineries how to devide them into rows

[crude canyon]

Yeah but how do you make your logistics not a mess

[arctic swallow]

[crude canyon]

Can I have your save? Or just be in your world?

[left arrow]

Sounds like what a friend of mine was doing. I'm mostly a frontend web dev, so I definitely work closer to the opposite side of the need-for-performance spectrum ^^

[arctic swallow]

thats the problem i didn't

[ivory condor]

[shy mulch]

page load speed and UX are massively important, there was a study by amazon a while ago where they dropped 1% of sales by a 1 second delay in the payment authorization flow

[arctic swallow]

what do you prefer?

[crude canyon]

They didn't look that messy too me

[crude canyon]

Just looking around your world

[arctic swallow]

insert that meme with homer

[minor rock]

thats probably good for the amazon customers lol

[left arrow]

Oh sure, but the typical web page is slowed down by choice of framework and server architecture, not by a poorly written JS function.

[ivory condor]

[arctic swallow]

so you prefer joing my world?

[shy mulch]

you'd be surprised, bad javascript can cause all sorts of headaches, and if framework and server architecutre are causing any delays at all, then a wrong decision has already been made

[left arrow]

Anyway, I'll stop rambling about web dev. Point is: when playing Satisfactory, the optimal factory is one you have fun building 🙂

[crude canyon]

Yeah, what region are you btw?

[arctic swallow]

east eu

[loud ivy]

trains are a great solution to non-messy logistics

[crude canyon]

Oh that's nice. DM me the sessionId

[loud ivy]

just remember to add enough locomotive power for them to be zippy

[ivory condor]

i like to think my region is, whatever this nightmare world i have created is

[arctic swallow]

#design-and-architecture message

[left arrow]

On that note, I just finished maaking auto-connectable packager blueprints... and I wish all machines were 1 foundation wide x)

this was so much easier than the assembler manifold x)

[velvet idol]

late to the conversation, but I 100% would buy a kitchen appliance just for the magical self-regenerating bubble wrap

[peak wasp]

I played in 2019 would my save update

Or would it like be stuck in the old version of the game

[left arrow]

AFAIK the quirks of using an older save can end up in your favor (like, extra copies of some collectibles might respawn in the world), but others can correct me on this.

[shy mulch]

you'd be in the latest version, but with such an old save there may be some issues, so make sure it's backed up first

[peak wasp]

Okay

Sounds good I have a bit of hours in it

Ty

[left totem]

you have time to waste

[arctic swallow]

yes

[left totem]

at least you admit it

[mortal ginkgo]

is it wasted time if he liked it?

[left totem]

technically yes and no

he could do something productive that he loves, sports, language learning, skill learning

[arctic swallow]

do i like it yes and no

[left totem]

but doing something you like to entertain your mind and have fun is ok

just not too much

[arctic swallow]

no winter = no skiing, currecrly waiting for school to end to go on a bike and also waiting for some free time to go scuba diving

[mortal ginkgo]

what if he loves putting rails? which actually teaches the mind to be efficient?
what if it is actually a skill to learn to put properly (maybe pretty) rails going around?

I mean, I am ok with all the things you counted but I hardly think "playing a game and doing something you enjoy" is a waste of time.

[left totem]

that's coping

[mortal ginkgo]

that sounds like coping to call something cope.

[left totem]

also doing something you like is ok, if it makes you learn something it's even better, but just doing for the sake of having pleasure is not healthy

[arctic swallow]

with language i am learing spanish by mainly watching and playing things in spanish

[left totem]

like if you overdose it

[mortal ginkgo]

and that is coming from someone who knows more than one language and speaks fluently, knows how to play guitar, and dont mind doing sports at all

I mean, calling that "cope" is pure wrong.

[left totem]

i like that

[left totem]

are you like 3 ?

[mortal ginkgo]

personal insults now? where did that come from big Valorant guy?

[south sinew]

hmmm

[left totem]

"the one who says cope is actually the one coping"

[mortal ginkgo]

God forbid someone disagrees with you or they are underage.

[left totem]

huge argument

[mortal ginkgo]

"Whoever disagrees with my world view is coping."

[south sinew]

maybe Rubber Concrete is actually more appealing than Wet Concrete, I like that Wet only requires a relatively worthless resource, but it's so much water

[mortal ginkgo]

Calling someone underage is coping too but you do you, old man.

[left totem]

aight sure

[mortal ginkgo]

Water is unlimited source and rubber can be used on other stuff no?

Well, water costs you time I suppose thats a thing.

[south sinew]

yeah that was my reasoning too, but rubber is a lot more convenient than water in the quantities Wet wants it

and offers a better limestone:concrete ratio

[mortal ginkgo]

Yeah it can be good on the long run.

[mortal ginkgo]

Why cant we pick doggos?

other doggos are so far away from my base Q_Q

[shy mulch]

pulse nobelisk?

[mortal ginkgo]

I want to hate the idea but it works so I can't.

[shy mulch]

just be careful not to accidentally pick a nuke nobelisk instead 😄

[south sinew]

huh, you can place power lines to the ceiling, and get a wall plug there, but you can't just place a wall plug in a foundation

[mortal ginkgo]

put a beam on foundation, mouse over the wall plug on it, half vertical nudge below once, viola

[fathom shuttle]

I just went for the longest gathering trip in history holy shit man

In two hours I got 18 hard drives, 56 Mercer spheres, 16 sloops, 39 blue slugs, 40 purple slugs, and 42 yellow slugs

This shit takes forever

[half scaffold]

WOW, and I thought my 3 hard drives, 2 spheres, and about two dozen slugs was good.

[minor rock]

tbh thats pretty alright for two hours

[lost wagon]

Way too high

[fathom shuttle]

I went into the rocky desert and found a spot with a lot of slugs and some spheres

[lost wagon]

Smell like the mod that puts a beacon in everything lmao

[fathom shuttle]

There spots/caves/trees where you’ll find 5 purple slugs randomly

I turned off hostile mobs tbh

I’ll be exploring for a while

I need to get the research tree for the dimensional depot done and get like 50 uploaders

Partially because my mouse is out of service, and it’s something I need to get out of the way

I’ll upload my save to calculator and see what I missed

But that’s a task for tomorrow me, I’ll do it while scanning the drives

[shy mulch]

You can scan the drives as you go. Wherever you are, find a hard drive, build a MAM, stick the hard drive in to start the 10 minute research, then immediately delete the MAM you just built. No power required and the hard drive research continues in the background. Still restricted to 1 research at a time, but it's not an issue if you just start one every 10 minutes as you go around

[fathom shuttle]

In the end I got 646 powershards out of this, very nice

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I’m aware

[open oxide]

I have prioritized efficiency over 2 days of sleep.

[lost wagon]

Sadly I have a job, so I can't do that

[shy mulch]

On MASSAGE-2(A-B)b, you don't choose sleep, sleep chooses you

[shy mulch]

I also have a job, and a child, but I work from home and the child is in college, so meh 😄

[open oxide]

oh boy that sounds ominous

[fathom shuttle]

Summer break lil bro

[fickle tusk]

sleep did not choose me tonight, the factory did

[mortal ginkgo]

are you guys sleeping?

[fickle tusk]

nice sunrise out now though

[fathom shuttle]

It seems like all my HMF will be converted into FMF, I already have a mini HMF set up used for storage so I guess I don’t need to take away from that production line

And of those 20/min FMF, 6 will be for pressure conversion cubes and the rest idk tbh probably all into the propulsion rocket thing

I’ll sink them pressure conversion cubes until I set up the particle accelerators, so I guess that will be a nice 1.5m/min addition

[lunar jasper]

is it smart to overclock nuclear powerplants to to 250<

[hard ivy]

if you have the shards, sure

[lunar jasper]

so it will not have issues with that it needs 600 water pm

[hard ivy]

should be fine if you don't do some weird shit with the pipes

[dense violet]

build them over water
OC 2 extractors directly into them

[shy mulch]

#screenshots water extractors design ❤️

[lunar jasper]

thats way too cool for me XD

[shy mulch]

and some more, love my curly pipes haha

[lunar jasper]

you can see my amazing design in screenshots xD

[shy mulch]

that also works 🙂

[lunar jasper]

haha

im usually happy if it works

thats the only requirement

but i like how it looks with the water extractors under it

maybe i will try that

[copper fable]

Would about 30000 more power be enough until i can get recyclable nuclear, I dont want any nuclear waste left. i already have about 6k power without any geothermal generators.

[minor rock]

literaly just straight up into the sky #screenshots

[lunar jasper]

why so high?

[minor rock]

idk started out so i could build flat

and not run into anything

but the nukes are at 600 water a min

[dense violet]

You can do a lot less by building power storage and charging it up to kick start your nuclear set up

[lunar jasper]

aah nice

wait the way to get rid of uranium waste you gotta make it all the way into plutonium fuel rods?

[mortal ginkgo]

and sink that, yes

[lunar jasper]

oooof

i put it into calculator and got lost

[green fiber]

Requires a bunch of different stuff to process.... and some power

[copper fable]

ye but i still have to get to the milestones necessary to get recylable waste. im not even done with phase 3 of space elevator

[ripe basin]

Good day guys

[hard ivy]

yes, non-fissile uranium, plutonium pellets, and plutonium cells are not sinkable. Plutonium rods can be sunk to remove waste, or you can burn them to get plutonium waste, which is much easier to store, or can be made into ficsonium which, when burned, doesn't produce waste

[lunar jasper]

pfff, gonna take a while

[ripe basin]

Ficsonium is peak efficiency, no?

Milestone, i mean

[hard ivy]

the milestone, yes

ficsonium itself is the opposite of efficient

[mortal ginkgo]

technically it is as you finally reach the "Reactor without waste" phase.

Fisconium Fuel Rod isn't meant for ultra power by itself but as a sink that finally balances the "ultra power" you reached out especially with uranium and plutionium combined.

[shy mulch]

honestly if you really wanted to, 30000 is enough power to finish the entire space elavator

using more power just means your factories can run higher quantities and complete stuff faster, but if you're not in a rush, it's fine

[ripe basin]

Im making adaptive control unit factory from scratch

I only need HMFs now

Everything else is done

Also i made a train for oil 700 meters afar

[bitter lodge]

who is the person good with fluids and pipes going up?

[fair hemlock]

best spot to make te final base?

[shy mulch]

most people who have problems with fluids and pipes are trying to make their system far too complicated, keep it simple and you can solve everything easily

[bitter lodge]

there is no "best" official

[shy mulch]

entire map

[green fiber]

Ya called?

[bitter lodge]

xD sure?

[fair hemlock]

but to medium good spot, resources,,,,

[green fiber]

Resident Plumber, at your service.

What's clogged

[mortal ginkgo]

Trains can get all resources to everywhere.

Desert can be good for a final base for being a huge open-area

[bitter lodge]

if I have a 600 pipe, and I consume only 400, but its a manifold going up. The system should be fine right?

im asking and remembering that ain't an option due to poor planning t-t. Nevermind

[frail sleet]

split if possible into 2 pipes beforehand

400 is fine, going up can be fine, both at the same time is perilous 😛

[green fiber]

Manifold going up as in
Bottom feeding up into a bunch of machines?

How many and how far up

[bitter lodge]

its 3k water split into like 101 refineries :)

[prime wadi]

there is no right answer I guess, I normally end up above the lake in 'Lake Forest' as its decently central

[bitter lodge]

so I wanted to just wanted 600 pipes

[green fiber]

Theres a certain stability limit that depends on how far up each pipe is and how many splits you have connected to that mk 2

[bitter lodge]

Like I really want to drop and feed from below. Its such a tight spot >.> but like if I can make it work. Ya, it would look so nice

[green fiber]

Usually, its fine if you add another pipeline pump to the main pipe ever like 10 or so junctions

[bitter lodge]

I was thinking the pump would carry it

[green fiber]

You really want the pumps to reset head lift

[bitter lodge]

and there is excess water as well?

[green fiber]

Its less about height and more about "breaking the chain"

[bitter lodge]

but even headlift wise it shouldn't be a problem. The refineries are basically on the same Y level as the water extractors are

[green fiber]

Head lift in such systems (and in general actually) works like a chain

If a single segment fails the entire thing fails

So i prefer breaking it up with pumps on the main line in regular intervals

[bitter lodge]

So the plan is each 600 pipe feeds 20 machines

that would only consume 400 of the 600 provided

[green fiber]

Yeah just use one extra pump after 10 machines

And use mk 1 pipes when you connect the machines

[mortal ginkgo]

wouldn't a valve be ok if it is the sloshing you wanna prevent?

[green fiber]

No, valves dont reset head lift
They are still part of the chain

[mortal ginkgo]

oh

[green fiber]

Pumps actively reset it so they break the chain up

[bitter lodge]

The other option that was suggested was have the pipes above and feed down

[green fiber]

If you are above then head lift is no longer a worry

Thats the deal / choice you have to make

[bitter lodge]

in #screenshots is a image of the refinery lay out ;-; trying to keep it nice

[green fiber]

Yeah you should be good
Just use mk 1 pipes for the pipes directly into the refineries and use another pump halfway down each manifold

I don't see a reason for it to fail with that in mind

[abstract heron]

i need to be a nerd for fluids my fuel is not doing so well

[green fiber]

You dont need to be a nerd.
Being average is enough

Just dont be stupid

[abstract heron]

i am making 9444 RF factory

into 940 or 950 gens to make 700GW of power

[fair hemlock]

@prime wadi thx i look one website (satisfactory calculator) and thats soo good someone more like this?¿

[green fiber]

Ok my bad
Thats insanity

[bitter lodge]

satisfactory tools

[green fiber]

Unfortunately there is no fix for insanity

Keep your pipe networks small and simple and just start working on your 940 fuel gens

[prime wadi]

for a late game main base (to me at least) central just makes sense. Anything other than that depends on the view you want out of the window!

[iron patio]

is it worth it making a turbo fuel factory for power? or is regular fuel good

[oblique aspen]

personally i wouldnt do TF for power, use normal fuel (preferably diluted), and if you want more fuel later, go to rocket fuel

[prime wadi]

Regular is plenty, but turbo is fun!

[iron patio]

should i still make a small line for it and then package it?

[oblique aspen]

if you want some for a jetpack? sure, your choice

[prime wadi]

is rocket fuel fairly recent? Probably not played for ~2 years

[bitter lodge]

I use turbo for jetpack and ammo

honestly, the turbo rifle ammo is so worth

[oblique aspen]

rocket fuel was added in 1.0

[fallen violet]

had this question yesteday, i did a simple fuel factory and was more than happy with the results, also turbofuel without blender is pain

[prime wadi]

ahhh, that will be it!

[iron patio]

yea i just used a few oil nodes and im making 5GW rn

[fallen violet]

so if you have a blender, sure, but if not, i would just go with normal one

[iron patio]

@oblique aspenyou mentionned diluted fuel, is that a better alt for fuel?

[fallen violet]

diluted fuel without blender is also pain

needs packager, then unpackaging

[iron patio]

i dont got blender for now, gotta wait next tier

[oblique aspen]

its not that much pain, but it multiplies your fuel production so much

[fallen violet]

personally i would just stick up w regular simple one

[hard ivy]

nah, if it's a pain, it's a skill issue

[fallen violet]

blender unlock is next corner

after you get blenders, feel free to go for turbo or diluted

[iron patio]

is the recipe Diluted Packaged Fuel?

[green fiber]

Diluted Packaged, if done well, is elegant

[iron patio]

the packing and unpacking seems annoying

[green fiber]

Just make a BP

[hard ivy]

nah, just blueprint it

[iron patio]

i got it in my harddrives tho

[green fiber]

BP solves the entire problem with Diluted Packaged Fuel

[iron patio]

how so

[oblique aspen]

you can make small self-contained loops that just spit out fuel in the end, the most annoying part is making cannisters someplace 😛

[fallen violet]

you will unlock blender next tier, quite literally, youll likely finish the whole packaging factory then unlock blender right away

[green fiber]

You can save the packagers WITH canisters in a BP

Just make a closed loop for every refinery

Inside the BP

[iron patio]

i see

maybe ill look into, for now i far more power than i need

but thanks for the infos

i got a lot of factories to make now, computers, heavy frames, new elevator parts and so much shit so im far from done 💀

[fallen violet]

i just finished making a heavy frame factory, the main issue was, and is the steel pipes

i guess thats on me for using iron pipes

[stark solar]

Is there a build mode for conveyors that defaults to stackable supports? It's kind of annoying to need to measure how far a conveyor can go, exit the build menu, switch to stackable supports, and then hope I put it in the same place on the ground. Wondering if there's a better way

[hard ivy]

yes, blueprint auto-connect

[green fiber]

Blueprint solves most of this stuff now thankfully

[iron patio]

what was the issue?

[green fiber]

Uses too much iron i assume

[fallen violet]

lack of steel pipes. requires for encased, requires for heavy frames themselves

[stark solar]

Hm. Not entirely ideal given that conveyors in the wild should bend. This is to cover long stretches of wild terrain

[iron patio]

thats not a big issue no?? like iron is plentiful

[hard ivy]

AC uses curve mode

so it should look ok

[stark solar]

Ok. I'll try it. Thanks!

[fallen violet]

logically, but you already are using like 5 nodes for the rest of the frame materials without the pipes

[stark solar]

I've never tried blueprints for that, but if it works, great

[hard ivy]

how many are you making? what kinda recipes did you use?

[fallen violet]

like frames per minute? no idea, i usually do not measure that, i just keep building until i fill a conveyor belt throughput

[iron patio]

hm i see, then you gotta bring it from very far

[fallen violet]

im using all the recipes that eliminates bolts

heavy encased frames, iron pipes, steeled frames, stitched plates...

[hard ivy]

good, then

[fallen violet]

but yeah, im using like

12 iron nodes

[hard ivy]

how many HMF manufacturers?

[fallen violet]

only the pipes are like 3 nodes each

[iron patio]

are screws really that bad tho?

[hard ivy]

yes

[fallen violet]

yes and no

[hard ivy]

expensive af

[fallen violet]

i dont have beef with screws particularly in the logistic side

but their througput is ass without steel bolts

which i dont have because i dont have coal there

[leaden turret]

can't have beef with screws, game has no cows

[fallen violet]

hence me using iron pipes

also makes the factories cleaner

because you dont have to go through the pain of rods every single time

[leaden turret]

embrace the spaghett

[fallen violet]

bolts are not much of an issue once you just learn that they are not supposed to go on conveyor belts, but they still are assy outisde steel bolts

[open pollen]

Last night I was going insane when upgrading conveyor lifts. They would sometimes change direction when upgrading and I didn’t notice so I was scrambling and going in circles to find why some conveyors weren’t working

[fallen violet]

and im sick of rods already

[hard ivy]

nah, the recipes that use them are almost all shit, don't even bother

direct insertion solves logistics, but you can't solve cost

[fallen violet]

i think steeled bolts are like one of the best stuff with bolted recipes though

like, according to the math gods

but according to the practice myself, nah

[hard ivy]

nah, expensive and doesn't even save space

the only reason to use them is when the ratios work out for you and you for some reason care about that

[ripe basin]

Bolts?

[fallen violet]

screws

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> I can't help but notice that the 1.1 press kit folder is empty

[fallen violet]

random rant but i really think the game could use random purity distribution, current system slightly pigeonholes your playthroughs to build on the same spots, while with random one could encourage more exploration and variety

an advanced game option bout that could be cool

[leaden turret]

June 17th, 2025
Q&A: Is there a setting coming for random Resource nodes on the Map?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK3z4dtNm14

[prime wadi]

as with randomised maps, blueprints that include miners would cease to work I guess

[leaden turret]

randomised purity distribution is not the same as randomised maps

[fallen violet]

yeah the miners would still work

just at different effectiveness

[fallen violet]

not the answer i was expecting

but better than no mention i guess

[dense violet]

that's not really a thing unless you make it though

you unlock new recipes and completely change the chain of production from start to finish on things.

for example you could get away with only using a handful of crystal pm for the whole world and do a bunch of end game items pm

or you can use an absolute ass ton of crystal mixed in with everything

You can cut steel out of your world factory build if you want

[leaden turret]

why you putting a ton of crystal in your ass o_O

[fallen violet]

hence i said slightly

[dense violet]

Feng Shui

[fallen violet]

like the game doesnt forces you, but it rewards you

to always go to the same optimal places

[dense violet]

but that's what I'm saying, having static miners is only really static if you never try different things or different volumes of hings

[fallen violet]

would be cool if the reward was actually going to places you never been before

[leaden turret]

going places you've never been before is easier if you play the game forcing yourself to a principle of limited foreknowledge (i.e. no making a beeline for stuff that you already know where it is)

[fallen violet]

i already said the game doesnt force you to do that xd

[dense violet]

and personally I find once you know the game, even if your start is the same it doesn't matter because that's just you working your way up the tiers.

your personall projects afterwards will be whatever the hell yo uwant

[leaden turret]

I know, players force themselves to play poorly because they can't help themselves 😛

[dense violet]

purity with nodes also doesn't matter a great deal.

for most of the game you're limited by your belt speed anyway

[iron patio]

whats the best recipe for circuit board?

[dense violet]

depends

[ripe basin]

If you have a lot of oil its the electrode

I think

[iron patio]

the best one to make computers and adaptive control units

and high speed connectors too

[fallen violet]

i feel like the best recipe for circuit board is going to be whatever node you have next to your plastic factory

[ripe basin]

I used caterium for that

[fallen violet]

if its copper, caterium, quartz, etc

[dense violet]

that's not how this game works

it depends on

your other recipes you're using
volume of total parts youre making
location of your factory
your personal preferences

[dense violet]

the beautiful thing about this game is there is no clear single best recipe for anything

for example sometimes Caterium CBs pairs well with Caterium Comps

only need oil and caterium

[fallen violet]

the default recipe just requires some copper next to your plastic factory, so that ones p comfy

[dense violet]

BUT

I mix Silicon CBs with Caterium Comps so I can stretch out both resources

at least at my last computer factory

[fallen violet]

computers also require cable which comes from copper

[dense violet]

or iron
or caterium

[fallen violet]

so a bunch of copper in your plastic factory can make a nice computer factory

[hard ivy]

I always do Caterium Boards and Caterium Computers

[ripe basin]

I use them too

[dense violet]

the point I'm making is you need to choose your recipes along side where you're planning your factory.

that's really the only way you can decide what is best for you at that time

[dense violet]

hell there's at least 2 paths from caterium to cable

quickwire Cable
caterium to caterium wire, to base cable

[reef basin]

kinda pointless

[iron patio]

yea i get that, i just dont know how many alts there are for all the other recipes so i just asked for the best one for boards

i know there isnt a best recipe overall

[ripe basin]

Quickwire to cable uses rubber

[reef basin]

there isn't best one for single item either

[dense violet]

no best recipe for any part 🙂

look at where you're building and what resourcesa you have, that will tell you

[dense violet]

if you just want to be told, you may as well pick at random then.

[hard ivy]

just use Satisfactory Tools

[buoyant kettle]

How would I split 720 crude to go evenly into 24 refineries, from 3 different nodes?

[narrow sigil]

can any1 tell me if the power augmenter is any good in the alien technology tab in the MAM?

[dense violet]

3 nodes to 3 groups of 8?

[abstract heron]

i do from each node into each set of refinerys @buoyant kettle

[ripe basin]

Power augmenter is really good

It gives you a power boost

[narrow sigil]

ok thank you

[dense violet]

it's a semi creative mode 'free energy' thing. If that's good for you, it's good

[narrow sigil]

ok thank you

[reef basin]

hook each node to the amount of refineries it can feed

[hard ivy]

costs 10 somersloops for 10% extra power so whether it's worth it or not is up to you

[crystal cedar]

my fuel isnt reaching the last 4 generators

[reef basin]

loop the pipe

[crystal cedar]

ohh ok

[narrow sigil]

ok thank you

[dense violet]

like so #1387326686588043335 message

[crystal cedar]

i see

tks

[dense violet]

that will likely fix things, but without seeing the set up we can only guess 🙂

there could be other issues

[crystal cedar]

ill try it

[ripe basin]

Did you do the math?

[crystal cedar]

yes

[ripe basin]

Are you sure?

[crystal cedar]

i did it in my brain, but fairly simple so no errors r likely to occur

[ripe basin]

Use calculator to be sure

Just in case

[dense violet]

never hurts

[ripe basin]

Do you guys fry sausages or boil them

[dense violet]

how dare you think I'm english

[stark solar]

What? The game doesn't have sausages.

[shy mulch]

Sausages go well with doggo-milk custard

[leaden turret]

mixing two combustible ingredients will not end well

[shy mulch]

Depends on your definition of "well"

[stark solar]

Signpost: Maybe one wouldn't need a jetpack to fly on one's own internal biofuel...

[leaden turret]

power shart

[stark solar]

"Daddy, why is the ground around here extra brown? And what's that weird smell?"
"Don't worry about it Stacey, but let's get out of here"

[crystal cedar]

substitute daddy with josh and stacey with guys

it is normal for one particular josh

to fill a large area with "brown stuff" or related

[viral tendon]

Who is josh

[crystal cedar]

from letsgameitout

[viral tendon]

Are you sure

[stark solar]

What is letsgameitout?

[crystal cedar]

the legendary utube channle who brought many to this game

[mortal ginkgo]

you do NOT know who josh is?

[stark solar]

Ah. shrug

[mortal ginkgo]

Mods. get'im.

[crystal cedar]

2 ppl dont

apparently

[mortal ginkgo]

I only speak about Ryancat.

[crystal cedar]

MODS

[mortal ginkgo]

This is madness. MODS.

I mean that MAD LAD, even my mom knows about him (I guess.)

[stark solar]

Rather play without mods, really

[crystal cedar]

EVERYONE DOES

except ofc

[stark solar]

I play the vanilla game. Not everyone plays with mods.

[crystal cedar]

these 2 guys\

[crystal cedar]

we meant moderators

because this is unfathomable

[shy mulch]

everyone does things their own way...

[mortal ginkgo]

No.

[crystal cedar]

the presence of a satisfactory player who does not know letsgameitout

[mortal ginkgo]

Not knowing about Josh is a CRIME.

[stark solar]

Oh, that some people don't follow some things you follow on social media? Heavens forbid

[maiden notch]

The Factory Must Grow

[mortal ginkgo]

It is written in all factory games' TOS

[crystal cedar]

IS NOT A SATISFACTORY PLAYER

[crystal cedar]

indeed

[maiden notch]

What in God's name is this conversation?

[mortal ginkgo]

Bro we dont need Mods here, we need the actual Discord devs here to handle this.

[crystal cedar]

wrong ,we need world leaders

[stark solar]

Purple: They're weirded out that some youtube or twitch or something channels they see as significant are things that other people don't know about

[white dawn]

xkcd.com/1053 etc. There's good and bad ways to introduce people to things you like

[mortal ginkgo]

I will contact Putin, you get Trump

[crystal cedar]

kk

on it

[leaden turret]

||insert suppository joke here||

[stark solar]

More likely, they're actually just playing this up for drama because they're bored.

[mortal ginkgo]

Joking in interwebs is drama now, supposedly.

[maiden notch]

🍿

[mortal ginkgo]

Pass some bro.

[crystal cedar]

depends

[maiden notch]

No

[ripe basin]

I have a gif

[leaden turret]

mario or luigi

[mortal ginkgo]

BRO BLZ

[crystal cedar]

if its butter gimme

[mortal ginkgo]

ur mom LOL MOM JOEK

FUNY GUY HERE GUYZ LOL

[crystal cedar]

ha ha haaaaaa

[mortal ginkgo]

lmaozorz

[viral tendon]

Are you high

[mortal ginkgo]

Nah, just teasing you lot.

[crystal cedar]

from when did we have 14 coffestainers?

i thought it was 2

[leaden turret]

2 community managers

many coffee stainers

[crystal cedar]

i got confused there

[leaden turret]

20% dutch

[crystal cedar]

80%?

[stark solar]

Coffee Stainers is such a weird .. whatever-we-call-that-word-for-groups-of-people

[leaden turret]

the rest of the world

[leaden turret]

groups of people

cohort

[crystal cedar]

human dictionaruy

[stark solar]

Yeah, but there's probably a more specific word.

[white dawn]

Coffees Stainer?

[stark solar]

demonym is the usual term for the people who reside somewhere, for example.

Maybe demonym is still the right word to use by analogy

[white dawn]

Perhaps we need a collective noun for more than one person who works at Coffee Stain

A "filter" of Coffee Stainers? A "coarse grind" of Coffee Stainers?

[arctic swallow]

coffee beans

[stark solar]

They may already have a term they use; we should ask

[leaden turret]

ben would probably go with herd

[shy mulch]

I vote for calling them a murder, like crows

[stark solar]

Google has a bunch of words - new google employees are nooglers, then googlers, and when they leave they're xooglers.

[prime wadi]

collective noun

[leaden turret]

ex-coffee stainers become Pioneers, rather than becoming "Decaffeinated"

[red sun]

i mean if they're all staining things with coffee they can't be great at holding mugs

not sure if that helps

[white dawn]

Probably all the jitteriness due to too much coffee

[leaden turret]

[britishism] community managers are the ones best qualified to handle mugs

[stark solar]

Caffeine managers

Maybe caffination managers?

[leaden turret]

HR department

[red sun]

that sounds like a really posh way of calling yourself a barista at starbucks

[leaden turret]

caffeine sommelier

[stark solar]

Back when I worked at Dropbox, the SF office had an internal coffeeshop (internal, you didn't pay)

And there were internal baristas

[red sun]

that's pretty cool ngl

[stark solar]

Kind of a cool job I bet, to be a tech company employee making coffee for employees.

Big tech jobs are weird.

[red sun]

"i work at a huge tech company"
"ooh what do you do?"
"...make coffee"

i'd still like that job i'll be real

[stark solar]

Taijee: They were quite skilled at it, could make awesome shapes in the swirls

[leaden turret]

||insert suppository joke for the second time||

[red sun]

it's a step up from being the janitor at least

[stark solar]

Janitors were not employees; they were contracted.

[abstract heron]

Did anyone know that the train stations move now there names on them if its long

[stark solar]

There are barista jobs that are drudgework, but baristas who are really good are like artists. They even do competitions.

Not every job in food is like a McDonalds grunt job

[maiden notch]

Satisfactory for Sega Dreamcast when?

[high patrol]

how do i edit the name of a floor in an elevator?

[iron notch]

sad

[mortal vapor]

Look at lower panel under the buttons, that 's where you access the interface to rename and change the buttons.

[high patrol]

it worked, thanks

[heady radish]

just finished a big factory plan in a creative world, how do I find the material list for it? It does use some blueprints but they've been tweaked so much in the design that they dont matter.

[hard ivy]

load the world into SCIM, select the factory, you'll get the list of buildings

[whole crystal]

if i break and rebuild my space elevator will i still be on the same phase?

[white dawn]

Yep, there's basically nothing you can do in the game which would make you lose progress

You can also deconstruct your HUB at any point

[whole crystal]

okay thank you very much

[white dawn]

It's not uncommon to move both around as you work through the game

[heady radish]

is there a way to save material/to-do lists or should I just write it down seperately

[leaden turret]

• in-game to-do list
• steam overlay to-do list

[heady radish]

in game

[white dawn]

As SignpostMarv mentioned, there's an in-game list. In your build menu you can use the +/- buttons on the items to add things to the TODO list. And there's also a freeform text area over there as well

It's a bit annoying to access; basically have to open up a menu like your inventory or the build menu in order to click over on the righthand side to edit it directly

But you can add blueprints and such to the built-in TODO, too, and it'll automatically decrement as you build, and tell you if you have the necessary materials to build the quantity you want, etc

[leaden turret]

in-game todo list has text limt.

anywhere else does not/

[white dawn]

Yeah, for freeform text I always just use an external editor

But the item-based TODO is quite handy

[leaden turret]

go try the steam overlay to-do list if you haven't

[white dawn]

Ah, but the Steam overlay to-do list probably doesn't let me use vim editing commands. :D

Rather offtopic, but for whatever reason I always resist using storefront-based tools like that. I don't like things which increase my attachment to specific ecosystems. If I get too used to stuff like Steam Overlay tools then I'm less likely to try out other options, or feel "locked in" to Steam

[south sinew]

damn, I didn't realise Pure Iron and Pure Copper were so different

[vagrant oar]

out of all the companies, Steam is a company I'm 100% fine with being locked to

[white dawn]

Same reason why I always eschew vendor-specific apps and such on my phone; I don't want to feel locked in to whatever Samsung specifically is doing, or whatever

[south sinew]

copper gets a lot more bonus but is also a lot slower

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, Pure Copper is refineries for days. That one's got a lot of haters in here. :)

[leaden turret]

if things condense they'd have to liquidate or eventually steam will be.... vaporware

[white dawn]

Personally I don't mind it, though I'm more likely to use Alloy unless I've got a reason otherwise

[leaden turret]

[south sinew]

well

I built my base in the ocean for the express purpose of using all the Pure/Wet recipes, even though that now involves pumping water up 200m, so I'm gonna do it

[white dawn]

Yeah, I don't have such a rosy opinion of them. Though it's still where I buy 99% of my games (and as a Linux user it'd be silly of me not to continue using them as my storefront). Still, I hate anything which makes me feel locked in to a vendor

[vagrant oar]

yeah that's fair

[white dawn]

Yeah, if you want resource efficiency, Pures are hard to beat (unless you're willing to add sulfur to the mix). And Refineries are easily blueprintable, so it's really not too bad so long as you can afford the power

[south sinew]

I got plenty of available GW at the moment, I got a blueprint for diluted fuel so it's pretty easy to get more power

[white dawn]

The majority of my Copper Powder on my 1.0 save came from Pure Copper

[south sinew]

oh god yeah, I remember having quite a few problems with that in my previous base

[white dawn]

Though it was probably something like a 70/30 split between that and Alloy

[hard ivy]

it's even easier with auto-connect

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, I'm looking forward to my next playthrough, whenever I've got free time again

[hard ivy]

I can easily outpace depot upload with refinery blueprint spam

I should add more uploaders to sheets and pipes

[white dawn]

Yeah, I ended up specifically beefing up a bunch of my Depot setup in prep for various endgame/postgame builds on my 1.0 save

Built a few new factories specifically just for depot replenishment

[burnt ferry]

why would a train freight station not accept any input material from the belt? train station is set to load

[hard ivy]

is it connected it a station and is the station powered?

[burnt ferry]

yea

[hard ivy]

is a train docked to it?

[shy mulch]

station operator is racist and only likes locally sourced materials

[burnt ferry]

i have not built trump central station

[burnt ferry]

i put a loc only lemme complete that

[south sinew]

if I'm chaining pumps, and I see the marker for previous pump headlift end, what exactly does the marker mean? do I just need the next pump to overlap the marker even a little bit? do I need to place the next pump entirely under the marker? I'm kinda confused about how the marker has a height when it should be a line and how the marker and the pump should interact

[hard ivy]

there should be no train docked to it to make sure it's not affecting the station

[burnt ferry]

it wasnt accepting the mats before i put the loc

[hard ivy]

it's an item platform, right? and you connected the belt to the inpot port?

[burnt ferry]

yes

[south sinew]

ah, the pump wants to snap to the marker so I assume the snapped position is correct

[trim vine]

When you place a pump down, the marker it shows when going up is the maximum headlift of said pump

You will notice the next pump you place will snap to that marker

Thats where you place it

[hard ivy]

I would put it a few meters below, actually

[hard ivy]

post pics somewhere. preferably a #1038092680493801533 thread but #math-and-meta will do

[trim vine]

@hard ivy aint wrong, I will say however, having done both rocket fuel plants numbering 8k, and 2 recycled plants, placing it on the snap point is fine and it works

[hard ivy]

my issue with the marker is that it's at 110% of headlift, which is the absolute max the pump can do. I wish it was at 100%. I always put mine at 90-100%

[trim vine]

Exactly, the pump will say "exceeds maximum headlift", but it does flow properly

[burnt ferry]

#screenshots i set the (only) train to be o na route where it should load the materials on that station

removing the train did nothing

[hard ivy]

make sure the lift doesn't display input/output arrows on either end

that'd mean it's not connected

platform won't accept items unless it's powered, and it can only get power from a station. make sure that's connected and powered

[burnt ferry]

have never seen it oding that when both connecting sides already exist and are defined