satisfactory

[mortal ginkgo]

I do use the Engine tho'

[warped pawn]

everytime i start a worl i always import a worldwide train megaprint, even if i have mats and stuff im just not creative and i dont wanna spend my time just building one, so i just build around it so it dosent disturb me later

[carmine musk]

Are you unreal

[mortal ginkgo]

[Insert something cool and edgy as comment here.]

[carmine musk]

« Yeh you can say im unreal heh smirks viciously »

chat im watching a tutorial on how to make a coal power fuel plant thing wish me luck

[warped pawn]

anyone know how to stop everysingle input of a factory from appering when im building? it like absolutely lags me

[carmine musk]

maybe in settings?

ill look for it

i dont seem to find it

[mortal ginkgo]

its not a setting issue but "devs can you fix this mess please it shouldnt lag my high end PC like bro cmon its just bunch of inputs"

[lament niche]

you are not a video game engine that lots of developers abuse and refuse to optimize their games on

[warped pawn]

its very humbling. my pc can handle a ton

[mortal ginkgo]

1.1 should have been delayed. There. I said it.

[carmine musk]

My pc can handle my save btw just saying (tier 1 on space elevator)

[mortal ginkgo]

I SAID IT OK. I AM NOT TAKING I T BACK.

[carmine musk]

Pc can render half of the space elevator

[warped pawn]

lmfao i dont know how people like u do it, id rather have no pc than a laggy pc

[carmine musk]

im kidding lol i have a strong pc

im so grateful cause i HATE IT when i lag its literally unplayable

its just so complicated for no reason and its unclean

[stark solar]

In my last game, it mostly lagged in endgame when I had hypertubes carrying me way way up in the skies and then from map region to map region. Some parts of that network produced lots of graphical glitches and lag

[carmine musk]

oh so yall get to endgame

[warped pawn]

just like laggy internet😭

[stark solar]

Hopefully everyone eventually gets to endgame, although it doesn't have to be a huge rush

[carmine musk]

at my moms i have an insane pc (should be) but it lags like hell and its lowk annoying

[warped pawn]

only happens when im above the swamp, no other biome for some reason

[warped pawn]

fym at your moms bro u have 2 pcs?!?!

[carmine musk]

yes

spoiled ahh brat

[stark solar]

I have like 5 pcs

[carmine musk]

pieces or pcs

[stark solar]

PCs.

[warped pawn]

u should properly shut it down and give it a good clean

[warped pawn]

grown up money 😭

[carmine musk]

i might just reinstall a backup

[warped pawn]

what r ur specs?

[carmine musk]

idk the ones on my other pc

[stark solar]

My windows gaming rig was expensive but is a few years old. i9-10940X, 96G RAM, RTX3090, M.2 storage, etc etc

[warped pawn]

intel cpu 😭

[stark solar]

MmM: At the time, AMD's Threadrippers were not awesome yet

[dense mango]

why 96 tho, 64 is more than enough

[dense mango]

whats wrong with intel

[peak wasp]

can you have multiple dimensional depots for same item

[dense mango]

yes but no

[warped pawn]

im running 64 on a ryzen 5 5500

[carmine musk]

is it not reccomended by a doctor

[warped pawn]

it just makes it faster input

[peak wasp]

hmmm

[stark solar]

madness: I do more than game; sometimes do coding and stuff.

[peak wasp]

i got depots in my new world

[dense mango]

it just makes upload faster, not more storage, recconended by dotor

[warped pawn]

i dont like intel ryzen are the best cpus in my opinion

[white dawn]

Yeah, the actual storage stack limit will always be whateve you've upgraded it to via the MAM, but you can up the replenishment rate by having more than one Depot

[carmine musk]

dotor

[white dawn]

It's pretty common to have multiple uploaders for stuff like concrete

[warped pawn]

dotor

[stark solar]

Maxing DD upload speed in the MAM is also important

[warped pawn]

upload speed before storage is best for me ngl

my opinion

[stark solar]

Intel and AMD have been racing on cost and perf for a long time. Sometimes AMD is ahead, sometimes Intel is

[peak wasp]

i also love what they did with the new cave sounds and forest noises

10/10 game

[dense mango]

yes dotor

[mortal ginkgo]

I didnt try the new cave sounds etc. I wonder if skittering leg sounds are more.. interesting

[dense mango]

yea but u cant get alternatives to more storage, u can always stack DD

[warped pawn]

lmao i lag more on low settings than i do on max settings, wowzers

[stark solar]

Before you max upload speed you should be spending those mercer spheres on MAM improvements of DD

[dense mango]

lower setting = more pressure on CPU

[peak wasp]

yeah i need about 70 or so spheres

[warped pawn]

5 5500 isnt the best so i guess

[carmine musk]

rookie numbers (i have 3)

[stark solar]

Once you're done with the MAM DD upgrades though, go hog wild. Gonna be a good time

[dense mango]

so if you have doggoshit cpu and a W gpu that will happen

[warped pawn]

im planning on upgrading but im still saving

[peak wasp]

I think I've found 5

[stark solar]

It's as much a joy as when you finally unlock oil

[peak wasp]

even better when you get those alternate recipes

[warped pawn]

god dd has saved me so much time

[dense mango]

i have my DD maxed so i just dont need my inventory anymore

[peak wasp]

nice dd gonna make this playthrough super easy

[dense mango]

urrrghh my bus got delayed AGAIN

20 mins delay for what bro😭🙏

[warped pawn]

same

[warped pawn]

they ran someone over and theyre saying sorry

[dense mango]

guys if you ever finish satisfactory somehow you should try astroneer

[fallen violet]

kinda sad that hypertube canons are not only the best but easier and most affordable way of travel. just installed the mod that affects zipline speeds and have been having so much fun zipping arround my factories

[warped pawn]

i have a ton of ideas for games, i spent a lot of nights watching vids before getting my pcs

[dense mango]

or just use ionized fuel jetpack and the exponential speed slide glitch

[warped pawn]

astoneer seems good but i dont like those really simple games

[dense mango]

you can make factories in astroneer

[shy mulch]

hard to pull off though, hypertube cannons are very simple and you can go anywhere on the map in 20 seconds

[warped pawn]

i know

[dense mango]

i can go anywhere in 20 seconds with exponential speed glitch

i got to that one really high sulfur node in less than 20 seconds by gathering speed

[warped pawn]

exponential lag

[shy mulch]

that's a skill you have, that has been learned and practiced, hypertube cannons require zero skill

[dense mango]

true

[dense mango]

exponential good pc that renders stuff quickly

[warped pawn]

exponential gpu good sir

[dense mango]

exponential pre rendering😃

[shy mulch]

exponential lizard doggo milk

[dense mango]

exponential explore and exploit

[warped pawn]

high render is better than low rander cuz u lag so much when ur going fast

my opinion ofc

[dense mango]

except i never lag for some reason

only sfter like 5 hours my game turns into a slideshow

[shy mulch]

5 hours? so every day then? 😄

[dense mango]

the lag is lagging and just built up🙏😭

[lunar jasper]

is it better to set up a plutonium or uranium power plant

[dense mango]

i play 2 hours, after i get the notification for playing 2 hours i take a break and work on my hobbies

[warped pawn]

when building it gets to like 30 fps and i have to friggin reload

its like 1 hour

[dense mango]

yea

[warped pawn]

for normal playing its like 10 hours

[dense mango]

after long when u build u get frame drops

thats what i meant by slideshow sorry

[warped pawn]

i know lmao

[dense mango]

if my frames arent stable 75 i call it unplayable

(my monitor refresh is 75)

wait do you use fps cap

please tell me you do

[honest void]

Hi, I'm trying to invite a friend through steam, how do I do that? The session is set to steam and invite only

[warped pawn]

fps cap is 120

120 frames is absolutely beutiful

[dense mango]

whats yr refresh rate

on monitor

[warped pawn]

74.97 hz

[dense mango]

then put cap at 75

because your monitor wont display 120 fps

it will display only 75

so you save some gpu performance by setting cap at 75

[warped pawn]

never knew that

[dense mango]

set to open and steam, so in the friends list they can join

[dense mango]

i specialize in computers its not basic knowledge

[warped pawn]

i used to have like 200hz but i broke it so now i have a slightly worse one, theyre so expensivee

[dense mango]

imo 75 is the golden number for refresh rate

since youre playing satisfactory

youre not gonna be compettitive playing against others

so you get a stable framerate while still giving you some luxury of faster refresh than 60

[warped pawn]

as long as im not laggy idm lmao

btw since u guys know abt pcs what cpus should i save up for? im running a 3060 and 64 gbs of ram and ofc 75 hz cpu rn is ryzen 5 5500

[lime ermine]

What are you using it for? Just gaming?

[rich parrot]

I would just enable DLSS and call it a day.

[warped pawn]

yeah

[frozen ingot]

why do you want a new CPU?

[warped pawn]

its lacking for the stuff i use it for

[frozen ingot]

fair enough! key thing will be what your motherboard supports

cos that CPU is AM4 i think

[warped pawn]

it is am4

totally forgot to mention that lmao

[frozen ingot]

AM5 is out now so if you want a really new CPU you'll be looking at a new mobo and prob new RAM as well. If you want to stick with AM4 you'd have to check what your board supports

5700/5800-x3d maybe

i prob wouldn't bother honestly, save more money and get a whole new board, AM5 CPU, and DDR5 RAM

unless these tasks are that urgent, kinda thing, and budget is an issue

[warped pawn]

any motherboard reccomendations?

[frozen ingot]

fuck no lol, there are so many

[warped pawn]

really cpu, ram and a board are nothing compared to a gpu

[shy mulch]

go with one that has green bits on it, and lots of coppery bits, and some pins n shiz

[frozen ingot]

just go with a good brand like MSI/GIgabyte/ASRock and spend as much as you can, but also read the feature list cos you might not care about having 4 M.2 slots for instance. There'll be a sweet spot and it will vary depending on your requirements etc

[lime ermine]

If you're getting a new CPU I'd really get a new graphics card too, the 3060 is a little slow for anything more then like a 5 7600

[warped pawn]

i aint that rich lmao

graphics cards are EXPENSIVEE

[shy mulch]

I have a RTX 4070 and it runs satisfactory on max settings without any hassle at all

[warped pawn]

i think ill just get a 5800 and just save until i can afford a new gpu and a board

[shy mulch]

this is why god created credit cards

[warped pawn]

im 14 dawg 😭 i cant get one

[shy mulch]

steal your parents credit card, if anyone asks tell them Daz says it's fine

man this makes me feel old, my son is 17 😦

and if he stole my credit card I'd eat his PC

[warped pawn]

lmfao

my moms still studying so id hate to set her back on money

[shy mulch]

get a job 😄

[tall marsh]

#design-and-architecture message Where do you get so much biofuel?

[shy mulch]

when I was 14, I got my parents to drive me to Costco, I'd buy multipacks of snacks and cakes and chocolates and put them in a giant bucket, and sell them door to door 😄

[shy mulch]

that's not a lot of biofuel 😄 wanna see a lot of biofuel?

[tall marsh]

I mean did he somehow automate it?

[warped pawn]

i do something similar to that

[warped pawn]

thats impossible unless u got mods

[shy mulch]

probably, you can collect the raw materials, leaves, wood etc., and stick them in storages, then automate the process into biomass then solid biofuel

[warped pawn]

oh wait i saw an earlier post of that guy, yeah he does automate that

[tall marsh]

So, he just took tonn of leaves and wood

[lament niche]

it can be semi automated

[warped pawn]

no he used a mod

it was a couple days ago but he did say it was a mod

[south sinew]

what do you guys think of steel rotor with iron wire and iron pipe?

[warped pawn]

god i love how smooth the game feels when its reloaded

[warped pawn]

copper rotor is my fav alt

[hard ivy]

best way to make rotors imo

[lament niche]

are yall forklift certified?

[whole zinc]

im trynna build a mega storage but im lost on how i should identify which storage contains which item

[wet patrol]

guys can i have some tips on exporting items, im currently on tier4

[tall vigil]

Can smokeless powder be crafted using the workbench or does it have to go through a refinery

[south sinew]

you can automate it

[shy mulch]

look in #screenshots now 😄

[white dawn]

Usually folks add signs to their containers

Deciding on the layout you want to use in advance is helpful too, of course

[tall vigil]

But I want to know if I can hand craft it

[south sinew]

if it requires a liquid, you can't hand craft it

[warped pawn]

autosorter and label signs

maybe square signs if u just wanna display the image

[tall vigil]

So that would be a no

Ty

[shy mulch]

Worth checking the wiki for stuff like that https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Smokeless_Powder

[whole zinc]

a bit too early for auto sorter but signs are the awesome shop im guessing?

[warped pawn]

yes

u need quartz for it tho

[whole zinc]

ugh nvm i need to research quartz ill just kinda guess it for now

[tall vigil]

I did but I didn't see any information that answered my question

[shy mulch]

In the crafting table, look at 'produced in' column. For this one it only shows refinery. If it's possible to craft at workbench it tells you there

[warped pawn]

unfortunately ur only options are trucks and conveyors

[wet patrol]

oh

alright

thanks bro

[whole zinc]

how useful would yall say rotors are, enough to fully automate them?

[open pollen]

Later on you get trains and much later drones

[crude canyon]

what about putting in the depot and taking it manually

I did that for modular engines and stuff

[rich parrot]

Automate everything. You will need tons and tons and tons of rotors.

[whole zinc]

ok nice cuz i "accidently" automated rotors thinking i was automating reinforced steel plates

[warped pawn]

really important, theyre used for motors

[whole zinc]

ah okay amazing thank yous

[open pollen]

They are also used in some buildings as well so it’s good to have a stock

[dense mango]

guys should i adopt a buffer system or a storage system for things like motors, rods, plates

[tall marsh]

I mean there is no wonder to get so much, I was just intrested if people really collect all this wood/leaves manually

But this is still cool

[warped pawn]

for early game absolutely, u can never have enough

[dense mango]

buffer or storage...

or do you not know what that even means-

[warped pawn]

i do, and like i said u can never have enough

but only use a buffer if its something u regularly use

like if ur making too much rods add a buffer

only important stuff tho

[dense mango]

yea

alr i get u

[shy mulch]

I love collecting it all, I collect too much!

[dense mango]

guys is cast screws alternative recipe good

[warped pawn]

only if u want to save space

[dense mango]

well im working in a bp mk1 so yes

[crude canyon]

saves space, power, and the production chain is easier

although the ratios get a bit scuffed

[hard ivy]

if you want to use screws, sure. I wouldn't, tho

[whole zinc]

finally building my first coal power generator

[warped pawn]

ive noticed everyone ive seen make a coal gen always makes it in that big lake

[low vigil]

hmmm guys

whats the lore like who is ficsit

[arctic swallow]

the greatest company every that cares about us

[dense mango]

12.5 ingots for 50 screws a min sounds like a steal
just split the ingots across 2 constructors and then you just underclock the smelter 30 -> 25
no more scuffed ratios and free 100 screws per min

[crude canyon]

huh, 15 is 60 screws

[dense mango]

cast screws alternative recipe

[crude canyon]

if you overclock it

[dense mango]

could work

but i dont want to use shards in my blueprint

[crude canyon]

then go 30 30

[next umbra]

Just remove screws entirely

[boreal musk]

its still the same 1:4 convert

[next umbra]

I’d rather use 240 wire than 900 screws tbf

[boreal musk]

underclock to 40 and u get clean 10/min

[warped pawn]

screws suckk

[hard ivy]

plus it costs less iron

[next umbra]

A lot less

[whole zinc]

is 60 coal ore /min into one geneator enuf

[hard ivy]

the coal generator literally tells you how much it needs

[whole zinc]

oh what i only see how much water it consumes per min

[bitter lodge]

5400 iron ingots.
1800 steel ingots. what the hell do I even make with all this?

[hard ivy]

it says somewhere around the fuel slot. I don't remember how the gui looks like exactly. you may need to click something

[crude canyon]

you think it's too little or too much?

[whole zinc]

oho okok

[bitter lodge]

If I compare to what I have now....I am using like 360 iron ingots and like 240 steel ingots-

So this would be quite the massive upscale

[warped pawn]

#screenshots

[bitter lodge]

More than

They take like 15 I think

[maiden notch]

Remember the time when the Water Extractors could act like dehumidifiers?

[warped pawn]

uhm guys

[maiden notch]

Obviously it was a bug

[heady radish]

why 60?! they take 15 each its water at 45/min you need to setup, whats it for if your using 1 or did you not realise the 15 thing so you can have 4 of them?

[warped pawn]

idk how but i got trigon and time crystals in my inventory 😭

[bitter lodge]

Looted from crash sites?

If that is even an option?

[arctic swallow]

do you like my train blueprints?

[bitter lodge]

I haven't used them yet xD

[maiden notch]

Who the hell is using anything but regular coal with coal generators?

[shy mulch]

I don't think there is any at crash sites

[arctic swallow]

oh

[maiden notch]

Lizard Doggo?

[bitter lodge]

I am upscaling factories first. Then gonna use trains to move everything to central location

But upscaling also means relocating current factories to better spots now that I have better movement options too

[whole zinc]

i just found it

[arctic swallow]

[shy mulch]

I have 1000 compacted coal per min byproduct at my rocket fuel factory, atm it just goes to sink but I might throw it at some coal gens just for the sake of it

[whole zinc]

this coal power generator thing fueled up to its max with proper ratio is going to take SO. LONG.

[maiden notch]

Just checked. LD cannot find that stuff

[warped pawn]

byproduct of what recipe?

[maiden notch]

Kickass!

[maiden notch]

Rocket fuel

[shy mulch]

nitro rocket fuel alt

[maiden notch]

Really good alt

[warped pawn]

not rlly

[shy mulch]

yes really 😛

[dense mango]

use for tractors

[shy mulch]

I have 40 blenders doing that recipe

[shy mulch]

not a fan of tractors

[dense mango]

then use for truck

[warped pawn]

if u have extra heavy oil residue u can make turbofuel ig

[whole zinc]

wait so coal generators have one power connection for both entry and exit power

ic....

[dense mango]

wdym

[warped pawn]

all power goes both ways

[whole zinc]

it only have one of the "connector" things for the wires

[dense mango]

bro dosent know cables are bi-directional

[shy mulch]

what is "entry power"? There is power connection, there's no distinction for power to go in or out of anything, it's either connected or not

[warped pawn]

connecting a cable makes the coal gen start

even if the cable isnt connected to power

[whole zinc]

ts confusing

[maiden notch]

This isn't Industrial Craft. You don't need to worry about voltage types or inputs and outputs of power

[whole zinc]

oh

nice

[dense mango]

another industrial craft player

😔

[whole zinc]

nah not really ive only read about industrial craft

[maiden notch]

Tekkit Classic was my Satisfactory in 2012

[whole zinc]

i just kinda assumed it had "directions" cuz i always kinda learnt it in school that way

[dense mango]

when you realize i wasnt even born back in 2012

[maiden notch]

Ummm

[dense mango]

the silence is loud

a bit too loud

[warped pawn]

uhm u shoudlnt be here

[maiden notch]

2012 was 13 years ago

GTFO

[shy mulch]

God I feel old

[warped pawn]

easy way to get banned

[dense mango]

why tho

[warped pawn]

violating discord tos

[dense mango]

!?

[warped pawn]

u need to be at least 13

[dense mango]

oh.

[shy mulch]

I left university in 2004 :/

[dense mango]

i turn 13 in a month bro

[maiden notch]

Doesn't matter

[dense mango]

uh

[warped pawn]

dosent matter lil bro 🦖

[dense mango]

kay

im still gonna stay here

[warped pawn]

someone ping a mod bro

[dense mango]

why ;-;

[shy mulch]

it is concerning how many young children use this

[warped pawn]

jk it dosent rlly matter at all

[dense mango]

its not my fault none of my braindead friends play this game

[warped pawn]

just have common sense bro

[dense mango]

they always on roblox 😔

[warped pawn]

this aint roblox

[whole zinc]

type shi

[dense mango]

i know

[warped pawn]

i mean like most people dgaf but mods must follow discord tos or this server could be fucked

[maiden notch]

It's concerning that there's people that doesn't care

[dense mango]

i dont understand why u gotta be 13 to be on discord

dont make sens

[warped pawn]

most people under 13 lack common sense

[shy mulch]

exactly, there are good reasons that you're too young to understand, that's the point

[versed mirage]

im new, is there any way to get a biomass burner to have multiple cables or am i just stupid

[dense mango]

no

[shy mulch]

no

[warped pawn]

and cant rlly talk abt it here

[arctic swallow]

no

[warped pawn]

connect it to a power pole

[dense mango]

you canc onnect power pole to a biomass burner so it connects to multiple things

[dense mango]

i think im very common sensible

[heady radish]

Need Help with Manifolds its in screenshots.

[dense mango]

if thats even a word

[warped pawn]

thats like saying she was mature for her age so its fine, like just no

[maiden notch]

<@&387163995947270144> underage user

[versed mirage]

idk but can anyone help make it work i dont want to make 4 different biomass burners for 4 different smelters, im only tier 2

[arctic swallow]

#1038092680493801533

[warped pawn]

connect it to a power pole bro

[dense mango]

so i should just leave the server..?

[versed mirage]

ill try it ig

[north cloud]

i would suggest leaving until you are of ToS age for discord. otherwise we will just end up banning you and you will have to do a ban appeal form and what not

as this is a community server, we have to follow discord's rules

[versed mirage]

i meant as in giving multiple things power

[arctic swallow]

hi mods

[warped pawn]

leave discord in general

[dense mango]

theres literally 15 days till i turn 13 does it matter that much

[arctic swallow]

bro just wait 15 days

[north cloud]

it does because servers get shut down for allowing underage users to stay regardless of time left

[warped pawn]

it does matter

[dense mango]

kay

[maiden notch]

You've had your account since 2020 they'll know you're lying

[dense mango]

ill be back in 15 days

[north cloud]

great, see you then

[arctic swallow]

bye

see you soon

[warped pawn]

not following discord tos has gotten many servers shut down

[north cloud]

they gone

[versed mirage]

hhh

[maiden notch]

That conversation started to get really disturbing

[warped pawn]

lmao yes

[maiden notch]

I'm not laughing

[versed mirage]

im pretty sure 90% of forsaken fans are below 12

[arctic swallow]

just use power poles

[warped pawn]

even if u think ur mature thats just not ok

its weird

[arctic swallow]

lets maybe get on topic of #satisfactory

[versed mirage]

oh yeah do i get 100% of my materials back from dismantling

or is it only some

[shy mulch]

yes

[warped pawn]

guys mk6 belts are expensive

[maiden notch]

Ficsit does not waste

[mortal ginkgo]

Discord's own rule. Anyone who declares they are minus 13 needs to be banned or server can be shut down. It's not about it making sense. It's about obeying the rules.

[shy mulch]

automate production of the materials and feed them into depot

[maiden notch]

He's gone

[mortal ginkgo]

Ah sorry, I was scrolled up but I continued the convo for no reason.

Anyway, to be on topic, I dont like pipes.

Yes, I don't.

[versed mirage]

when do i get trains

[shy mulch]

pipes are mostly pipey, belts are mostly belty

[smoky forge]

nah

[maiden notch]

Soon™

[warped pawn]

good to know

[smoky forge]

pipes...

yeah dont get into pipes, only if you realy have to

[warped pawn]

btw pipes are pretty hard to understand unless u already have previous knowledge

[maiden notch]

When you get advanced steel production going and unlock Phase 3

[versed mirage]

should i build a miner mk1 on a resource node then like a really long conveyor over to my base or is that too extra for tier 2

[arctic swallow]

yes

[shy mulch]

do it

[maiden notch]

Use tractors

[arctic swallow]

no

[warped pawn]

NOO

[versed mirage]

do i have image perms

[mortal ginkgo]

why not

[smoky forge]

nah belts r gud

[warped pawn]

setting him up for not sucess

[mortal ginkgo]

tractors are awesome lol

[smoky forge]

fuel in early game is somewhat rare

[mortal ginkgo]

brotherman, they rarely ask for a lil bit of coal

[maiden notch]

Coal

[shy mulch]

in my phase 0 save I have a belt running from the quartz mine down by the river all the way to middle of grassy fields

[warped pawn]

how high must i make a pipe for it to only be filled by overfill?

[shy mulch]

what does that even mean lol

[atomic notch]

Idk

Peep over complicate pipes for no reason

[true mulch]

there's no fixed height, just whatever is lower fills first

you can go up to the head lift limit if you want to be safe

[warped pawn]

all my stuff is level so..

[versed mirage]

i love this game so much

[maiden notch]

Water towers are kinda underrated

[warped pawn]

they areee

[true mulch]

in that case just like 2 stacked supports should work

[warped pawn]

so op

[hard ivy]

more like overrated. just use pumps

[warped pawn]

thank u zir

[maiden notch]

Too many people rely on the uplift pumps

[shy mulch]

they are overrated imo, zero use case for them if you design your pipework well

[true mulch]

water towers make sense if you're running a long pipeline through terrain

[arctic swallow]

like it's the whole point of pumps?

[versed mirage]

should i invest in mk2 conveyors for the really long conveyor

[true mulch]

definitely not within factories lol

[atomic notch]

Just dont move fluids up. Better to move em down

[arctic swallow]

too expensive

[shy mulch]

use whatever belt suits the throughput of items

[versed mirage]

i might aswell

[maiden notch]

I've seen more people use so many pumps rather than making a water tower with the minimum amount of pumps.

[true mulch]

mk2 conveyors are very expensive, unless you automate a lot of reinforced plates right away
either run stacked mk1 belts or rush steel and mk3 belts (which are cheap)

[versed mirage]

im kind of balling i dismantled like everything i had

[hard ivy]

i'd split it into 2 mk1s. much cheaper

[shy mulch]

sounds messy and annoying that, when you can easily use a mk2 if needed

[true mulch]

you can't build a mk2 if you don't have the stuff to build it with

[maiden notch]

I say MK3s are the more balanced of the bunch

[shy mulch]

make the stuff to build it with then

[warped pawn]

pretty much only for moving pipes pretty far and high without the use of pumps, just dont go over the tower height

[true mulch]

better have an ugly but functional belt stack than nothing at all

[tired cypress]

hey so I have a controller plugged in and working, I set the game to controller mode, and now it's not responding to anything and I can't change it back

[warped pawn]

cooked

maybe reinstall idk

[atomic notch]

Psure theres launch options for kb input

[scarlet canopy]

Do Trainstations ever use that 50MW they have as Max Cons.?

Context:
A Train Station has a max cons. of 50 MW and consumes 0.1 MW if conencted
Every Freight platform has a max cons. of 50 MW which gets used in load/unload processes
Every Train on the track adds a max cons. of 110 MW and consumes according to load with a idle of 25 MW

[true mulch]

you can reset your config by deleting the config files (the directory is in #faq, in the same parent directory as save files are)

[shy mulch]

sounds inefficient, ADA will not be happy

[maiden notch]

I bet someone looked at the belt hell scape before buying this game and went nope!

[true mulch]

it used to be bugged, but I thought it got fixed?

[scarlet canopy]

what was bugged? what is intended?

[true mulch]

the stations should draw 50 MW at all times (platforms only when un/loading, so that's correct)

[scarlet canopy]

I tested it and its 0.1 MW

[true mulch]

recurring bug then

[scarlet canopy]

ok

[true mulch]

0.1 MW is what all idle buildings draw

[atomic notch]

Alright smoke break is over 🫡

[warped pawn]

i find myself taking tons of breaks playing this game lol, not smoke breaks.

[austere valve]

coffee breaks?

[ember locust]

psychotic breaks? /j

[true mulch]

back breaks

[warped pawn]

coffee stunts growth i just do random stuff until im ready to be tortured

[maiden notch]

You should ignore the take a break alerts. Ficsit needs you to save humanity!

[warped pawn]

my brain is constantly getting confused

[arctic swallow]

its good to take breaks if you don't want to get burned out quicly

[maiden notch]

Dismantle your entire factory and rebuild it

Or take a break by playing another factory building game

[compact python]

General rule of thumb?

[maiden notch]

Yes

[austere valve]

Take a break from factory work by playing relaxing games like competitive csgo

[warped pawn]

i play warthunder when im just at a point where i cant think anymore

[loud ivy]

pumps are aestetically pleasing

[maiden notch]

I guess. The thump thump thump noise when they're under load is pretty cool.

[tropic plover]

So, I have 2 sets of 10 fuel power generators.
Each set of 10 is fed by 5 refineries and they both work fine, no issues
I have now tried to build a 3rd set, identical to the first 2 and the last 2 generators in the series are intermittent because they are not getting enough fuel.
I have pumps along the line and even over clocked the oil pump on a pure node to 200%

[weary perch]

Wait if we can turn waste into plutonium pellets... what if we just sink the pellets?

[tired cypress]

well I found the specific setting to disable controller mode. under GameUserSettings.ini find FG.InputMode and change to 0

[true mulch]

can't

[weary perch]

Sure you don't get power back for it but you could just get rid of all the waste

Oh :(

[reef basin]

you can only sink plutonium rods

[loud ivy]

sink the fuel rods

[warped pawn]

ohh i see

[weary perch]

Still good

Though at that point I might as well use them

[reef basin]

at that point just burn them in NPPs for more power

[true mulch]

with blueprints it's now easier than ever to just build a huge nuclear waste storage

[warped pawn]

why would anyone want to store nuclear waste

[reef basin]

why not?

[true mulch]

ficsonium is completely ridiculous

and storing Pu waste used to be the only way of dealing with it before 1.0

[ripe basin]

#screenshots message
Why.

[abstract heron]

How so

[warped pawn]

its gonna get full eventually, then what?

[reef basin]

then you build more

[abstract heron]

Scaling is very good in the game

[true mulch]

insanely complex for little gain, and defeats the original decision of "more power or no waste"

[hard ivy]

except power generation

[ripe basin]

Why wont it work

[reef basin]

it's not great for power production

it's good for getting rid of plutonium waste (which is its primary goal)

[broken thorn]

I downloaded a mod to crossover the blueprints from all my saves, but I didn't expect I'd do the same with all the dedicated servers I've ever joined 😭 Now I have over 200 blueprints in my personal world

[abstract heron]

I might do next save ofc with mods do a pure all nodes and big extractors to see how much power I can make

After 1.0 save

[true mulch]

you can easily build storage that'll easily outlast your playthrough

[undone yarrow]

because even at the non alchemy maximum of a touch over 222 waste a minute a single big crate takes 108 minutes to fill, daisy chain oh 200 of them together and you now have all that plutonium power for a few hundred hours at no additional cost

[hard ivy]

plus you can sink plutonium for no waste easier than ficsonium

[true mulch]

haha, you can just filter and delete the files directly in the save file directory ( #faq )

[broken thorn]

The issue is some of them are useful, some of them completely cheat the game or are trash I'll never use

[heady radish]

I have steel automated but still need alot more iron to manufacture those steel parts into versatile frameworks and other things. Should I overclock the miners or use more nodes?

[broken thorn]

I might just keep my undefined paste like that unorganized

[undone yarrow]

Overclock to belt limit then find more nodes (or alt recipes such as solid steel and the molded products recipes)

[true mulch]

well, that's entirely up to you to deal with 😅
I personally think people should only use blueprints they themselves make or they ruin the experience for themselves

unless it's like, rail supports or whatever

[broken thorn]

I thought the same until seeing those cool pixelarts I was missing on 😔

[true mulch]

that falls into "rail supports or whatever"

what I said applies to factory blueprints

[broken thorn]

Yeah I like to make decorations by myself, but when it came to downloading an ultracompact fuel generator blueprint I didn'tt think twice. Shit saved me A LOT of space

[broken thorn]

I never copied any of those

[warped pawn]

i figured out a way to use my aluminum, 13k/min for aluminum sheets and 13k/min for alclad casing

[broken thorn]

Is there enough bauxite for allat?

[warped pawn]

i make 26k aluminum ingots/min so yes

powered by mk2 miners so its gonna increase by a ton once i unlock them

[winged lynx]

Stupid question, but can you deconstruct the space elevator after building it and doing modules?

[broken thorn]

yes

[warped pawn]

yes

[winged lynx]

Thanks

[undone yarrow]

I'm assuming Converter shenagians?

[broken thorn]

How?

I just told Tools to make 13k of each will all alts recipes unlocked and it's only able using converter

which you don't have

[warped pawn]

sloops

lol

[broken thorn]

some people are crazy

I can't see myself using sloops in a perm factory

[broken thorn]

how many sloops did you use?

Also even with sloops I highly doubt it'd be possible only with mk2 miners

unless you use 1000 sloops

[warped pawn]

no idea

[warped pawn]

im doing it 😭

[broken thorn]

Did you cheat to get more?

[warped pawn]

all from exploration

i explore when bored or just use scim to find them

[broken thorn]

Istg I was playing a multiplayer server and they cheated to get sloops and I didn't even want to say anything about it because It's their type of fun Ig

[echo estuary]

I have a question about factories. Where is like a good biome or place to build one?

[warped pawn]

where the ores are

[broken thorn]

What factory are you building

Generally Rocky Desert has everything nearby

[echo estuary]

Iron one i’m still new to the game i’m only on phase 1 but i wanna start building one for the sake of space and best production

[warped pawn]

oh wait nvm i make 27k aluminum/min

[warped pawn]

where are u in the map currently?

[echo estuary]

Uh the one recommended for new players. Idk what it’s called

[warped pawn]

oh, in that case go to the beach at the west

it has 3 pure iron nodes, 1 pure limestone 1 pure copper and 1 pre caterium and alot of oil for later in the game

[echo estuary]

Alrighty thank you!

[broken thorn]

do you have a tools for it?

[warped pawn]

i had to use scim for upgrading converyors cuz i am NOT going back and redisigning this whole thing later

i dont like cheating cuz it just ruins the point of the game

so i just use it for qol and time saving

[weary perch]

Use them in the machines that actually make the fuel rod

[warped pawn]

although its def the first and last time i will be using it for upgrading stuff where i should be able to

[weary perch]

More rods for the same amount of materials

[warped pawn]

or u can make the same amount with less materials needed

u can use sloops for 2x and halve the overclock for usage of half the items

[broken thorn]

You would need at least 220 somersloops in 110 overclocked assemblers, going from 6500 to 13k of each aluminium casing and sheets

and that's using 12300 bauxite /min, which isn't possible with only mk2 miners which he previously said he's only used

and even then you're only making 15k aluminium ingots

and he said he's making 27k ingots

The maximum possible amount of aluminium ingots you can make without SAM is 16400 /min

remembering that's using mk3 miners and mk6 belts

which he only has mk2 miners and mk4/5 belts

[frigid fox]

I have a vehicle that has simply "disappeared", but still appears on the map. How can I make it completely disappear? It's quite visually annoying, thank God I had nothing stored on it.

[warped pawn]

disable the marking on the map

ngl

i have no idea if i have enough throughput from my trains

i have like 6 trains going into 1 station all have 4 freight

[hard ivy]

depends how you set it up

[frigid fox]

Totally idiotic as a solution but it has its effectiveness; I had to disable the controllers for keyboard and mouse to apply the solution, I must say. Thank you.

[warped pawn]

straight, no up or downs the entire way, until like a 168 meter spiral

[weary perch]

Nuclear trains when

[hard ivy]

I was talking about the station, the belts, the trains. other than time to do a loop, the route doesn't matter

[white dawn]

Whenever you decide to cut all but nuclear power out of your power grid!

Actually now I want to make a small dedicated nuclear power setup which only powers the train grid.

[warped pawn]

all belts are maxed all trains have 2 locomotives and 4 freight carts , added cuz when full they cant go up the spriral and like yeah

[broken thorn]

Why?

[south sinew]

buggery, I forgot to account for the belt speed, now I've set up 90 modular frames/minute but need to ram 1200 iron ingots/minute down a 480/minute belt kek

[warped pawn]

so.

what can i do to make 5990 water/min go away

im thinking concrete

[sly gazelle]

I'm the only one who find buggy the Signals?

[south sinew]

there's plenty of recipes to consume it, like diluted fuel, pure iron/copper/caterium, wet concrete

[white dawn]

Or, process it in the same factory which is producing it. (My usual recommendation: keep fresh + recycled separate; downclock machines as appropriate)

[weary perch]

I want a train with uranium in it

[warped pawn]

signals arent buggy

[south sinew]

but why do you have 6k water/minute going spare anyway

usually when you are producing the water you have an opportunity to recycle it in the same place

[sly gazelle]

I'm 100% sure that the Signal or tracks are buggy

[warped pawn]

i recycle all water and i have extra 5990/m waters

[warped pawn]

its a you issue

from what ive seen nobody has reported any bugs

[south sinew]

wtf recipes are you using to get that outcome

[hard ivy]

split into 3 manifolds, 3:3 balancer and done

[white dawn]

Could be some selective slooping, I suppose

[warped pawn]

dont ask.. just help

any ideas fellas?

[south sinew]

already gave my suggesetion #satisfactory message

[white dawn]

If you're slooping the machines which produce the recycled fluid, could end up overrunning the system

[white dawn]

I mean, you already gave your own answer

If you've got water you literally have nothing else to do with, pick any recipe which uses water and use it for that.

[sly gazelle]

when i make a cross section sometimes my lamps shows that the signal i made is not good, but when i just delete the tracks, place one track again it shows it now works then i put back the others everything is ok

[sly gazelle]

If i doesn't put the path signal directly to the switch just a little behind it still works i don't have to replace all the tracks

[warped pawn]

after absolutely no consideration i will get all the ore around me and use the ones that can be processed using water

thank you to those who helped

[heady radish]

Random thing about save hours, is it normal to have 1/3 of my main save time in just a creative testing world? Also whats everyones hours in the game cause they rack up so easily 🤩

[warped pawn]

i have like 240 hours

also its good to test stuff in a creative world

[leaden ether]

My first "complete" save where I did everything I wanted to do just ended at 850 hours. 350 or so on the scripted portion. Though I took my time and did some needless things like way over building power during that time.

[warped pawn]

power making takes a ton of time and gpu usage

if ur going big ofc

[leaden ether]

Wasn't super huge 😄 besides the two coal plants on start up I had a 74 GW rocket fuel plant and a 75 GW nuke plant at the end. But along the way I made it a goal to always have a minimum of 200% of my max power needs. And mainly making power plants is extra fun for some reason IMHO.

[sly gazelle]

Where can i report bug with evidence guys?

[leaden ether]

(Plus 4 alien power boosters, two of which were super charged for +80%)

[fossil ice]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @leaden turret

[warped pawn]

uh how do i put that im gonna overclock for satisfatory tools or do i just multiple by 250%

[white dawn]

sftools doesn't give you a machine-by-machine breakdown of anything, it just says you need like 800% of Recipe X

You can divide up that 800% however you like, be that 8x machines at 100%, or 4x at 200%, etc

[hard ivy]

6.45x in tools just means 645% total clock speed. divide that among machines however you like.

and as long as there's a bottleneck, you could even have more speed, and the machines will just idle to effectively run at 6.45x

[loud leaf]

can the train go through the ground if i build the railway through the ground?

[hard ivy]

Afaik, yes

[silk trail]

can fluids overflow? i really dont understand how fluid junctions work. say i have 7 mk1 pipes. 5 of them are full and 2 of them are around half. can i connect all 7 together to get 3 full mk2 outputs?

[white dawn]

You can get funky setups like that to work (so long as no part of it relies on a section of pipe exceeding its throughput (300/min for mk1s), but we basically always recommend keeping your pipe networks as simple as possible

ie: keep those 5 full mk1 pipes totally separate, and feed them into machines consuming exactly 300/min

Or if you do want to pair them up to create full mk2 pipes, do that as early in the network as possible and just keep them as mk2s from that point on

[silk trail]

ya... i have done that for the most part. but this time i have exact fluid output that need to be split into sections from uneven inputs

[white dawn]

(though note that at 600/min specifically there's often some specific build techniques you need to do in order to have a stable 600/min)

[white dawn]

There's always underclocking to make all the numbers match up properly. :)

[silk trail]

this. my fluid is somtimes unstable when close to max... i dont know why

[white dawn]

Here's the advice I've got saved which will nearly always get you to working 600/min. IMO it's good advice even below that point, though the system is usually more forgiving before then. Note of course that people have gotten working systems while ignoring large swaths of this, and occasionally due to build styles or other vagaries you might still have problems even with all this. But IME it's nearly always "the pipes Just Work":

1. Keep the system as simple and short as possible.
2. Loop your manifolds (so: the input goes into both sides of the machines you're feeding)
3. Feed fluid from above, so gravity does part of the work for you
   4a. Avoid valves entirely (they've been improved for 1.0, so this one might not be as important, but you still don't actually need valves)
   4b. Avoid fluid buffers entirely (except as buffers for train lines, where they are rather necessary)
4. Prefill your pipes! Full pipes are happy pipes. Wait until the system's thoroughly saturated before turning machines on.
5. Place junctions before pipes. If you do snap junctions onto pipes, dismantle and rebuild the pipes afterwards.

See #screenshots message for an example of 2+3 specifically. And of course, as mentioned, the fluid simulation tends to be more forgiving as the rate goes down, so keeping your pipe systems below 600/min is another option too.

[silk trail]

nah, this is one time my ocd can be satiated 100%... not even an important factory... but numbers add up to cleanly.

[faint epoch]

does any one have world were teirs 1-6 are done

[silk trail]

i follow all this rules already cause i am lazy and half of this make it easier to build on mass.. also i have used a valve once. and i dont even even know where a fluid buffer would even be needed..

[silk trail]

that seems like a very specific and strange thing to ask for... i may know one such world

[faint epoch]

i finished my old world and dont want to do them agian

[silk trail]

aight. dm me

not my world tho. but i liked it

cleane

[wet dock]

Satisfactory doesnt let me enable frame generation

[arctic swallow]

when gambling in satisfactory?

[silk trail]

have u tried askin nicely? satisfactory can get mad sometimes

[wet dock]

yes i have

[onyx granite]

Im having a signal loop error, I am using a roundabout system but the trains do not want to work with me

[arctic swallow]

#1038092680493801533

[south sinew]

well shit, I used my entire ISC of encased industrial beams

[loud ivy]

no EIB manufacturing?

[south sinew]

I have some, but it's a lot less than I would really like

[loud ivy]

just get like 40/min,its enough for me atleast

[south sinew]

after leaving the game running to fill the container whilst I was working I figured it was plenty

[prime magnet]

is there a question in #1038092680493801533 that discusses not being able to place a mk1 miner on a resource with the "Invalid Placement" error?

[next umbra]

It doesn’t improve frame rate at all, not yet atleast

[south sinew]

That is usually because there's a rock on it you didn't mine

[prime magnet]

alright

[hard ivy]

Or a rock you need to explode

[prime magnet]

how do I mine a rock, it doesn't show a prompt to

[south sinew]

that usually means you are looking at a non-minable rock

I think all the minable ones have a "press e to mine" or similar prompt

but if you try to place the miner the offending rock should have a red outline

[prime magnet]

okay

[polar flame]

does setting up a buffer before the main manifold help evenly distribute flow to all machines ?

[hard ivy]

No?

[south sinew]

the biggest problem with manifolds is already too much buffering

adding more buffer doesn't help

[leaden ether]

There are some rare cases where that might be advisable but generally no. To get more even distribution on a manifold, do things like feed from the middle or at both ends or split very long manifolds into to 2 or 3 shorter ones and feed each separately from a splitter.

[polar flame]

ok

[south sinew]

mkay, much as it sickens me, I went back to my old base and boosted EIB production with sloop and triple shard, that's making some motion

this reinforces my idea that concrete + steel should be my next targets

[hard ivy]

A buffer inline with the main belt doesn't do anything, unless the item flowrate is very inconsistent

[leaden ether]

A case where you might want a buffer is for a critical situation where the machine(s) cannot stop working even for a split second and your input is very bursty and the machines built in buffer is not large enough to prevent idling occasionally.

[polar flame]

thats just the thing some of my machines set in the manifold are sitting idle for a full minute before they retrieve enough resources

[south sinew]

yeah, that's because the machine buffers are too big, and adding more buffer isn't gonna fix that

[polar flame]

while others have an over abundance '

[south sinew]

it's just inherent to manifold design that they take way too long to work correctly

[polar flame]

i see

[south sinew]

the only thing you can do to avoid it is not use a manifold but instead try to split your belts evenly

[leaden ether]

That happens at the very end of a manifold where you are supplying /exactly/ the number of resources needed by all the machines. It will continue to run that way unless you "preload" the buffers for all the machines before running the line. And even then if your total supply is 0.001% too small, eventually that last machine will starve. I am generally on the side of Sloppy but Safe and will over provision in that case and then peel off overflow from the end of the manifold into a sink (If it's an expensive item)

[lofty mason]

What website do you guys use for production planning?

Satisfactorytools is kinda wonky because it doesn't let you factor OC and Satisfactorycalculator seems to be giving me incorrect information with a basic plastic / rubber setup

[frail sleet]

modeller

[south sinew]

hmm, 2 pure limestone nodes with wet concrete, that's quite a lot of concrete

[leaden ether]

Yeah at some point you need to do your own math and or experimentation/tuning one you have the basic setup working after making your best estimates.

[south sinew]

I use tools because adding in OC is pretty easy at the end

[lofty mason]

This looks pretty cool, thanks

[prime magnet]

@south sinew are you talking about the ore rock or another rock, but yea

[south sinew]

the ore is flat on the ground and doesn't block mining, the giant one sticking up is the one blocking you that you have to hand mine out of the way

[polar flame]

interesting time to get experimenting I wanted to avoid creating two seperate pipelines but if it must be done

[prime magnet]

oh
okay

thanks

[broken thorn]

Bro

You are me

with less pixels

hence I shall be the original one

[prime magnet]

❌
I am canny cat, you are raised eyebrow canny cat

[broken thorn]

nah we have so much in common

We both enjoy Tower Battles

We both enjoy Satisfactory

It's the destiny

[leaden ether]

Oh it was a pipeline manifold? If so then you definitely need to feed from both ends or the middle if it is larger than 5 machines, or break it up into smaller manifolds. I try to never do more than 5 and usually groups of 3-4 if possible.

[polar flame]

xD yeah i have splitters infront of each blender 7 and 7 did it for the aesthetics and thought it'd work in practice

[prime magnet]

we are similar, but not the same
the orange is not the tangerine

[fossil zinc]

anyone know why my notes are all formatted vertical? its really annoying because its a nifty feature

example in #screenshots

[trim vine]

whats the monitor resolution set at?

[fossil zinc]

1920x1080

it used to work just fine before, i already messed with the resolution so thats not it

same goes for fullscreen

[trim vine]

and in game graphics are set the same?

[fossil zinc]

yep

both in game and windows are at 1920x1080

i keep trying to do * 😭

[maiden notch]

The game really picks up when you unlock coal power

[clear aspen]

Hello chat

[maiden notch]

Suuuup

[clear aspen]

Hru

[maiden notch]

Fine

[trim vine]

-stares in 8000 rocket fuel-

😛

[clear aspen]

Same

[trim vine]

And you tried reloading the game/restarting PC?

[fossil zinc]

this has been an issue for a while, its only just now starting to get on my nerves because i need to organize my thoughts

i could also do a note ofc but my friend cant really see that

[maiden notch]

Do you have corrupted windows files? Outdated drivers?

[fossil zinc]

uh.. no

though updating my drivers might not be the worst idea

the part thats weird is it worked fine like 5 days ago

[trim vine]

You in multiplater or orivate game?

[maiden notch]

Weird

[fossil zinc]

server

[trim vine]

according to a quick goooooogle, this is a known issue, recommend googling to see what people did

[maiden notch]

Well the more stuff you build in the game the more demanding it becomes

[fossil zinc]

..what?

[maiden notch]

More factories, more machines, more stuff

[fossil zinc]

wtf relogging fixed it suddenly

that never fixed it before, what witchery is this

my computer karma has dropped 💔

[maiden notch]

Clean your computer

[fossil zinc]

you're just spouting nonsense at this point

[maiden notch]

I'm not

Clean the dust out of your computer

[fossil zinc]

How would that fix graphical issues

[maiden notch]

Less heat

More air flow

[still ginkgo]

fisconium cant be sunk right? not even the fuel rods like plutonium?

[hard ivy]

why would you sink it when you can burn it without making waste?

but no, it can't

[still ginkgo]

i just need points for the golden nut

[maiden notch]

Good luck

[still ginkgo]

ig il leave it at plutonium rod sinking

[south sinew]

phase 5 project parts is best for points I believe

[maiden notch]

Yep

[still ginkgo]

yeah, time ot make more factories

[trim vine]

With the 86 gigglygajillion things you can sink, ficsonium is low on my list of things to sink xD

[still ginkgo]

yeah, i had a plutonium sink and thought that making ficsonium would give more

[maiden notch]

The warp drive alone is worth over 2 million

Almost 3m

[trim vine]

I'm saying that by the time you reach the point of making ficsonium, you should already, through other sinks, have enough for a couple golden nuts

[maiden notch]

Golden nut is 1000 tickets

[still ginkgo]

ive finished everything and still at 750 tickets

[trim vine]

And I am in phase 4 with having around 1500 tickets or so

Prolly closer to 1200 with buying everything out

[vestal mica]

well if you already have nuclear setup but don't want to bother with trying to make it wasteless, sinking the plutonium rods doesn't hurt your ticket total

[maiden notch]

Not everyone sinks everything

[trim vine]

No reason not to

People forget, if you've been sinking iron plates since you unlocked the sink that adds up to a crazy amount over time

[humble bough]

I'm looking for production goals for these items I am working on phase 3 btw (I have up to 2400 iron ingots per min):

Iron Rods
Screws
Iron Plates
Reinforced Iron Plates
Modular Frames
Heavy Modular Frames

[trim vine]

And you only add it to smart splitter lines for overflow

[trim vine]

Consider that you'll need heavy frames out the wazoo for fused frames later

[humble bough]

I'm looking for how much of each item should be made

[trim vine]

Look up fused modular frames, see how many of them you want, then maths

[humble bough]

what are they used for

[trim vine]

If you look them up, you'll see, but the blanket answer is a lot, in phase 4 and 5

[vestal mica]

i don't forget that because it's not really true

[trim vine]

How is it not true?

[vestal mica]

how many iron plates are you producing just to sink

out of curiousity?

[trim vine]

No no, you misunderstand the statement

Iron plates, and all early game resources honestly, should have a smart splitter that redirects overflow first to storage, then to sink, after production of course

And IF you have been doing that since the sink is unlocked, those "tiny" points add up over hundreds of hours of play

[humble bough]

maybe 3 Fused?

[cloud crown]

Since the sink is unlocked will be a feat

[abstract locust]

does anyone have a compact foundry blueprint i can look at? i need some ideas on game mechanics i can take advantage of to make it super compact

[trim vine]

And as for expressly being sunk, none, but for my overflow, they've been being sunk since I could do so

[vestal mica]

that's what I mean, i have x amount of iron plates being produced in excess for building

[cloud crown]

Steel factory?

[vestal mica]

and if I don't use it for building, once storage fills, it's sunk. for me that's usually like 20 to 40 iron plates per minute. excess

[abstract locust]

copper alloy

[vestal mica]

that woudl take 100,000 hours of game time to get to 1000 tickets

[trim vine]

Yes, and then later you set up sinks for further downstream production

That then leads to sinking RIP, Smart plating, modular frames, heavy modular frames, you should have overflow sinks at each stage, and it all adds up

[abstract locust]

i can mess around with the ratios if all you have is steel

i js need some belting ideas

[vestal mica]

it does all add up, but i think you're vastly overestimating how much that adds up unless you are just leaving your server running 24/7

[abstract locust]

bc the double input is tripping me up

[trim vine]

Correct but it wouldn't be just iron plates, you add up all the little things, and then the medium things, over time, it's a significant amount

[cloud crown]

You can use ceiling conveyors to divide the production

[abstract locust]

ive tried to do it compactly any referance pictures or anything?

[vestal mica]

one ballistic warp drive is the same as 402 hours of iron plates at 20 per minute

[abstract locust]

i mean i could try dropping it back down with elevators but i dont think it'll be much more compact than what i got rn

[trim vine]

Again mate, in phase 3, just sinking excess of everything being made, from iron plates to say just plastic, it all adds up and I was netting around 3m points per minute

You are focusing too much on iron plates and being literal versus the spirit of what I am saying.

Sink the excess of everything from the moment you can, and it does add up rather well over time.

I see people asking whats a high value sink item, just sink everything

[broken thorn]

Is using blueprints larger than 5x5x5 in my vanilla world considered cheating ?

[vestal mica]

it's a single player game. you decide what is cheating

[mortal ginkgo]

Anything blueprint related in this game is morally justified for how weird the entire system it is to begin with

[abstract locust]

theres mods that let u design 20x20x20 blueprints

so i wouldnt consider it cheating

[broken thorn]

I'm not using the mod in the save itself

but I have another save with AGS enabled which I have a mod that gives me a 12x12x12 bp designer and I use it to make bps and transfer into my vanilla save

I abominate cheating

but larger blueprints is so convenient

[abstract locust]

gotta copy factorios blueprint system just about the only thing i like about the game

[mortal ginkgo]

wait is there a mod for that?

[vestal mica]

yeah, but not everyone is at a place where they want to spend the time and effort to go back and add sinks to everything. so the answer "just sink everything" isn't a helpful answer if they really want to know what they can get the most sink value for a limited effort.

[abstract locust]

early development

saw it a few weeks ago

[mortal ginkgo]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[lyric fulcrum]

guys, how much of the game is done after finishing phase 3?

[abstract locust]

like 5%

[trim vine]

That is fair

Then consider it advice for newer folk, sink early and often

[lyric fulcrum]

nahh, fr?

[trim vine]

And pretty much anything that comes out of a manufactuerer is worth sinking 😛

[abstract locust]

each phase take longer and longer

[broken thorn]

Can I find it in SMM ?

[abstract locust]

i did see it there yes

under blueprint

[lyric fulcrum]

but there are only 5 phases right?

[abstract locust]

i wanna say

[vestal mica]

it depends how much exploring you've done and how much you plan to do.... if your goal is to just do the minimum to finish the game, then you're more than 5% done

[broken thorn]

couldn't find it

[abstract locust]

9 lol

[vestal mica]

9 tiers. 5 phases

[abstract locust]

ur right

brains fried

[abstract locust]

disregard everything i said i thought u where talking about tiers

[lyric fulcrum]

but how much when im doing it very calm?

[abstract locust]

could be RRB / Really basic blueprint

maybe its out of develpment i have no idea what thats mods name was if thats not it

[abstract locust]

takes me like 150 hours if im playing with the only purpose as beating the game

[vestal mica]

it's almost impossible to say. I knew a lot more about the game and how I wanted to plan and organize by the time i was in phase 4. And it really just depends on how much scale you go for in phase 4 and 5 power and buildables. For me, i also collected pretty much every hard drive and alien gizmo by the end of phase 3, so that dragged those out some.

[abstract locust]

i play pretty relaxed

[vestal mica]

i feel like if you know what you're doing and your goal is just to finish with a reasonable amount of automation and you've already done mos of the sidequests that you care about, you're more like 50% done after phase 3

[trim vine]

Like I always tell folk, throughout this game you have 3 priorities at all times

1. Power
2. Aggressive MAM research/Hard Drives
3. Whatever you want

🙂

[vestal mica]

if not more

[abstract locust]

and nukes

[lyric fulcrum]

ouh thats sad

[trim vine]

If you see above, thats #3 😉

[abstract locust]

i do see

[vestal mica]

but I aslo don't make my factories look cool. if you care about aesthetics, you might never finish

[trim vine]

I just wanna finish phase 4 and 5

[vestal mica]

now if you're going to setup a big wasteless nuclear power plant and teleporters and ionized fuel for the ultimate jetpack and produce 5 ballistic warp drives per minute, well... you're like 5% done

[lyric fulcrum]

bless you

never heard of any of that stuff

[trim vine]

cover your ears and glance away then, its scary up there

[timber island]

medieval farmer vs nuclear physician

[left totem]

in reality it's up to you, I was finished when I sent the phase 5 parts and finished the game

some people just like making factories over and over again

[timber island]

hell yeah

I literally rebuild my entire world whenever I get mk6 belts lol

[fathom shuttle]

You can hand feed everything except nuclear pasta

[vestal mica]

i agree, i've only finished phase 4 and 5 once. The number of different saves i have that are working on phase 4 is frankly embarassing. @left totem

[warped pawn]

#screenshots amazing

[trim vine]

Thats a limit I put on myself that I cannot do that

[honest void]

Could anyone help me setup a multiplayer self hosted server please? I've been following multiple tutorials and guides but didn't manage to make it work...

[vestal mica]

might want to check in #dedicated-servers . i just pay a hosting service to do it

[honest void]

I'm trying to self host because I'm broke 😂

[vestal mica]

makes sense. the dedicated servers channel or questions and help will probably be your best bet.

[trim vine]

You wish you were broke?

[timid mesa]

Weird wish

[trim vine]

I can slide you my venmo or somethin if you wanna transfer me your wealth if thats the case xD

[vestal mica]

That’s a wish that’s incredibly easy to achieve

[trim vine]

And we are here to help facilitate said wish

[versed mirage]

is there any way to make something fully automatic early on i hate restocking on biomass

[vestal mica]

70%? How close to hell are you

[bitter lodge]

first auto power is coal gens

[timid mesa]

Unlock coal

Take about 2 hour I think?

[versed mirage]

how do i unlock it

[timid mesa]

After you complete phase 1

[vestal mica]

Finish phase one

[versed mirage]

ok

[timid mesa]

Feed 50 smart plate to space elevator

[open pollen]

I just had a constructor make biofuel from biomass then conveyor it into generators when I was that early on

[trim vine]

I can help you mostly automate biofuel

[versed mirage]

yea but is there anyway to make it so i dont have to get the wood n shi

[timid mesa]

Coal

[trim vine]

How new are you to the game?

[open pollen]

Not until coal. So get to work on getting to the next phase!

[versed mirage]

yea ill get coal but i just want a temporary solution

[versed mirage]

7 hours playtime

[timid mesa]

There is none

[versed mirage]

like 2hrs was me tabbed out

[trim vine]

Ok, I can help you mostly automate biofuel, if you would like

[timid mesa]

Might take more than 1-2h

[sour ledge]

i hate how the track signals randomly don't actually divide the rail block and you have to just dismantle and replace the tracks and signals until it actually does. makes signalling feel like black magic when in reality its just buggy

[low vigil]

guys

[versed mirage]

i have it mostly automated

[bitter lodge]

:> love the game telling my suit isn't build to survive this atmosphere. As if I am not aware I am basically in outspace cause my hypercannon launched me to high

[low vigil]

whats like the lore like who is ficsit and why are they so saddistic

[versed mirage]

all i have to do is restock the biomass burner every like 10 minutes

[hard ivy]

you can automate everything except leaves/wood collection

[trim vine]

Is it efficently done in a way that lets you load, automatically, 15 biofuel burners?

[versed mirage]

and i wanna tab out and watch something

[low vigil]

why

[versed mirage]

its just a copper and iron factory man im not that far into the game

[low vigil]

why is ficsit saddistic and who are they

[open pollen]

Then instead of idling, work on progressing so you don’t waste fuel

[trim vine]

Then its not automated as far as it can be and I can help with that, if you would like

[trim vine]

Are you free for a quick call?

[timid mesa]

Mine 2k iron and 2k copper afk transform them into bar

Clear phase 1

[versed mirage]

im in a call rn sry

[trim vine]

Add me in coach xD

[open pollen]

Also if you collect a crap ton of leaves and wood and deposit it to be constructed it should last a while. But if you are only doing little trips to get the wood/leaves the. Of course it won’t last long

[bitter lodge]

with a mk1 miner and mk1 belts!?

[low vigil]

someone answer

[timid mesa]

No... Pocket miner

[versed mirage]

im abt to finish tier 2

[steady glade]

go to #story-spoilers

[timid mesa]

It's boring as hell but fast

[versed mirage]

i have like everything automated apart from concrete

[timid mesa]

I put 10 pocket miner on iron and get full stack twice

[trim vine]

how much power are you making right now, with your current biofuel burners loaded?

[bitter lodge]

that is the easiest one luckily

limestone > constructor > concrete

[versed mirage]

where do i see that

[timid mesa]

I don't build miner before getting coal automation

[trim vine]

power pole

[timid mesa]

Which biome did you choose?

[versed mirage]

oh

[steady glade]

grasslands

[versed mirage]

max is 33 and im consuming 33 lol

[trim vine]

Thats super inefficient

Its so easy to set up a super simply biofuel facotry that outputs 450 or 900 MW

[timid mesa]

Grassland is bottom left

[versed mirage]

everything is 33

oh wait nvm capacity is 50

[trim vine]

I can help you set up something that produces 450/900 MW with little oversight once set up

[steady glade]

you'll have to, coal is a bit far away

[trim vine]

Using just biofuel burners

[open pollen]

Isn’t 30MW just 1 biofuel burner?

[timid mesa]

It took me 2h to be ready to finalize P1 xd

It's not that far

[versed mirage]

do i really need all that i have like 6 smelters 8 constructors total 😭

[hard ivy]

the ones in the hub are 20 each

[turbid badge]

My trucks seem to bump into an invisible rock and then get lauched into fraking orbit

what the hell

[open pollen]

Dude how many burners are you running total currently. Frankly it just seems like you aren’t cutting enough leaves/wood in bulk

[trim vine]

Yes

As a new plater please heed this one thing:

You have 3 priorities in this game at all times.

1. Power, isolated from the main factory/factories
2. Aggressive MAM/Hard Drive Research
3. whatever you want

[versed mirage]

like 3 i dont need that much

[open pollen]

Then why are you having biofuel problems?

[trim vine]

Now, I help a ton of new people, mainly getting this power plant online in phase 1 to make your life easy, but beyond that its all you

[steady glade]

cool then you can rush there but you'll still want a lot of materials to start settoing it up

[versed mirage]

i was just wondering if you could automate biofuel and it spiraled into this 😭

[trim vine]

he doesnt like loading them

[mortal ginkgo]

there seems to be this ultra rare bug that is still present which makes the "path markers" solid objects that one can bump to, maybe thats what happening 😛

[trim vine]

Again, I have offered to help automate biofuel for you

[timid mesa]

You don't need that much setup if you setup coal

[turbid badge]

Lemme check it out

[timid mesa]

I am setting up no waste nuclear atm

[open pollen]

Ive never done nuclear before and just did turbo fuel for my current power needs. How bad is nuclear?

[mortal ginkgo]

People are trying to help no worries.

What you need is 2 constructors, 1 turning leaves to biomass, other one turning wood to biomass and burn them instead.

If you have Solid Biofuel unlocked, you use another constructor to make that by using Biomass.

However your problems gonna get solved only by going after Coal.

[timid mesa]

The setup is huge to be fair about 27 x57 foundation and give roughly 15GW

[versed mirage]

am i able to detect coal after tier 2

[hard ivy]

"huge" lol

[versed mirage]

is there like a map with all nodes in the game

[trim vine]

after phase 1

[timid mesa]

Yes

[trim vine]

not tier, phase 1

[versed mirage]

k

[steady glade]

in tier 3 you can

[open pollen]

Honestly idk how many foundations I placed for all the fuel power plants I placed for turbo fuel lol

[timid mesa]

Sorry that it's currently huge for only making that king of energy

[trim vine]

Last time, let me know if you want assistance, but otherwise, good luck