satisfactory

[leaden turret]

#faq message

[heavy juniper]

Thx

[slim jackal]

exactly fr

cats?

i have a singular kitty but i love him very much

[tranquil hemlock]

That feel when your attempts to build keep being messed up by terrain. I swear, I'm going to have to turn this planet into Coruscant just to be able to get my tractor to this little production point

[slim jackal]

😭 i got the tractor to do like 365 kick flips on some parts of the terrain while hauling cargo

but im transitioning to trains, or atleast trying to

[warped pawn]

get drones

[tranquil hemlock]

Still a while away from that

[toxic grotto]

satisfactory on wishlist on PlayStation 5

[azure ermine]

is there a build height limit, like in Minecraft? or can you just build "up." (with the expectation that you can't ever reach the theoretical place the elevator goes)

[reef basin]

~2km from ocean level

[azure ermine]

thanks!

[toxic grotto]

Guys satisfactory is on the wishlist for PlayStation

And Xbox

[reef basin]

no need to spam
(also get a PC 😛 )

[toxic grotto]

I don't have a Pc

I'm from Germany but i speak English too

I have a PS5 and Xbox

[leaden turret]

so you can play with yourself but not everyone on pc

[toxic grotto]

No problem with that

[toxic grotto]

And wen steam on the new Xbox console then I can play with you too

[leaden turret]

no crossplay between consoels and pc / dedicated servers for the time being

[toxic grotto]

You now the new console is with windows

The new Xbox console

[leaden turret]

then it'd run the PC build of satisfactory, probably

[toxic grotto]

We will see

[leaden turret]

also not an xbox console, a windows handheld with an officially-supported gaming-optimised windows build (compared to the unofficial "lite" editions of windows)

[toxic grotto]

Can I send a link because is a new Xbox console from Xbox

[leaden turret]

nope, I'm already familiar with it.

[warped pawn]

if u want to travel far just make a hypertube cannon but make sure u got power/another cannon on the dest if u dont wanna get stranded

[toxic grotto]

It's ok I have no problem with your answer

[tranquil hemlock]

I meant I was still a while away in terms of game progression. Nowhere close to unlocking drones. Haven't even unlocked trucks, trains, or oil yet on this save

[warped pawn]

ohh u just started

[thin pilot]

I’m gonna have the same issue as you when it comes to me getting steel to my iron/copper factory

With my main factories being in the forest

[red narwhal]

anyone tryna play?

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[warped pawn]

what goes into power augmenter input?

[shy mulch]

alien power matrix

[tranquil hemlock]

New save, yes. Though given my track record with new saves, there's no guarantee of how well I can stick with it XD

[warped pawn]

is there any way to see fps and other info on satisfactory or do i gatta do it the other way

[quaint flax]

are there any time liimits for overclocking?

like is it gonna expire after some time

[shy mulch]

no

[green fiber]

Its permanent for as long as you leave the shards in

[warped pawn]

i need 35 fully overclocked refineries for my aluminum factory 😭

just for aluminum scrap 😭 😭

[bold heron]

do we got any information if satis is coming to switch 2 ?

[warped pawn]

simple. dont get switch 2

it sucks literally anything is better

[bold heron]

i dont wanna discusst that right now.
i would like to know if they plan on releasing it there too.

[cursive crane]

Sloop the slugs

[warped pawn]

thats what im doiunn

[warped pawn]

prob not, maybe just ps and xbox, switch is hard to get to from what ive seen

[queen nimbus]

Howdy my fellow coffestainers or pioneers. What are some must have blueprints

[hard ivy]

whatever you decide to blueprint yourself

[queen nimbus]

yee but like are there any which are very important to have, im tryna use them more but idk what to blue print

[smoky forge]

some simple factory parts

or just usefull litle builds

[leaden turret]

April 15th, 2025 Livestream
Q&A: Have you seen the Switch 2 reveal?
https://youtu.be/llvW8ClqLUo

We have nothing to report on that today.

[bold heron]

ok

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> will the question of a Switch 2 port be answered by the end of the inevitable Console Release Launch Stream?

[hard ivy]

depends how you play the game...

some people like to have a "factory in a box" and it's a blueprint that takes ores and produces for example reinforced iron plates or rotors

or you might want to blueprint 10 constructors will all the belts connected

half of my blueprints are balancers lol

[bold latch]

Do you guys build dedicated factories for materials that you might just need? Like for example a motor factory just so that you have motors when you need to build something that needs them. Or do you guys produce a bit more than what’s required in a factory that requires them and take from there when needed? Constantly sinking rotors, stators, motors, Ai limiters etc seems wasteful.

[warped pawn]

slugs cant be trashed btw

[queen nimbus]

thanks imma do some of that, you a help shawty

[warped pawn]

i build factories with stuff that involve the same ores/close ores for exaple i have a factory for stators motors computers and other stuff from oil byproducts copper and iron, its just from stuff near me

[lost wagon]

I build any factory, because the age of machines

[reef basin]

if I need motors, I make motors from ores
if I need X, I make X from ores

I never connect factory to existing factory 🙂

[lost wagon]

Maybe not screw, because if the shit needs it, I just integrate machines making it in that factory line

[reef basin]

and sinking is hardly a waste, since you are getting rid of overflow that would otherwise not be produced anyway and resources are infinite so you're not losing anything

[warped pawn]

if my factory like stops working (im reusing water) would i have to redo everything?

like prefilling again

[reef basin]

better option is to make sure it doesn't stop working 😛

[agile needle]

Modular frames

[lost wagon]

Independent factories is what I do too, although I wouldn't mind some tranporting from one to another just for the looks of having trains/trucks

[warped pawn]

i love logistic floors

[agile needle]

Get a simple blueprint running to make a total of 60/min as soon as you can

You'll thank yourself later

[bold latch]

That’s what I’ve started doing

[hard ivy]

all of my factories make items exclusively for the depot. sometimes multiple items in one factory, and then if one of the items is an ingredient in another, then part of the first item will be made for me, part for another. but I am not relying on the second item backing up and then the first overflowing to storage, the production is a sum of both. and I sink all overflow

[bold latch]

That makes sense. That’s what my gut was telling me too.

[warped pawn]

i used to think depots was a way to teleport items across areas

one refinery wastes 400mw of power 😭 i need 50 of them

i produce 10kmw

[mortal ginkgo]

something is off here brotherman

also 10kmw...?

[warped pawn]

im LAZY

uh guys

[hard ivy]

you're processing all the bauxite on the map but have less power production I had before oil?

[warped pawn]

so with my aluminum setup i dont need external water sources i make 18k water/min with it

[reef basin]

if you are lazy, shouldn't you be writing 10GW, which is 1 letter shorter? (and correct)

[warped pawn]

[hard ivy]

cringe

[reef basin]

well then prepare yourself for comments like the one above, pointing out that kmw is incorrect 🙂

[warped pawn]

what tf am i gonna do with 18k water/min

[reef basin]

use it?

[leaden turret]

try to avoid the urge to pee

[dense violet]

let me guess. Someone started duping all the scrap?

[hard ivy]

put it back into alumina production?

[dense violet]

with most of the al recipes if they are duped that's way more water than can be used

[warped pawn]

i only use 7500/min what am i gonna do with the other 10,875water /min

1 fully sharded packager uses 150 water/min and i cant even imagine the oil needed

[dense violet]

don't make it then

[hard ivy]

don't sloop the water then?

[reef basin]

how are you net-positive with water lol

[dense violet]

sloops.

I imagine

[reef basin]

ok, question should be "why" I guess 😄

[warped pawn]

sloops

10k is gonna be hard to get rid of holy

[dense violet]

because people are too .. something... to just dupe the final product instead if they have to dupe

[hard ivy]

nuke plants consume up to 600/min each 🤷‍♂️

[warped pawn]

ima just do a huge storage and flush it every now and then

[hard ivy]

plus you get 6.25 GW from it

[warped pawn]

by huge i mean huge

[warped pawn]

ill do that once i start mass producing aluminum

[hard ivy]

the worst possible solution lmao

[reef basin]

don't sloop it then? sloop next step

[dense violet]

stop talking sense

[warped pawn]

god i hate that that makes so much sense

[reef basin]

slooping last possible step is almost always a good option

[warped pawn]

50 water/m wasted PLUS the canisters needed for it yeah hell no

[dense violet]

*if you have to use cheesey duping mechanics

[warped pawn]

if i have to do something that the game wanted people to do?

[shy mulch]

if you really want to get rid of excess water, making wet concrete and sending it straight to sink is probably the easiest way

[warped pawn]

i didnt know using a feature that devs gave was "cheesy"

[dense violet]

not slooping extra water in the first place would be the easiest

[warped pawn]

first ill finish the setup and see what ill do with the excess water

[shy mulch]

there are some places where sloops make sense, others where it doesn't for sure 🙂

[fickle pier]

Found a crash lol

[dense violet]

shhhhhh

[hard ivy]

actually, do you even have belts fast enough to sloop scrap?

[mortal ginkgo]

iron plate slooping why not

[warped pawn]

holy

bro wth i never noticed that

[hard ivy]

you don't because max sloop max oc is 1500/min

[warped pawn]

i wont sloop then

i never considered that

[hard ivy]

1800 if default scrap

[shy mulch]

I use sloops in my ficsonium fuel rods, which is really helpful because it makes a ton of spare dark matter residue which can be used elsewhere

[warped pawn]

what is max conveyor speed?

[hard ivy]

1200

mk6

[warped pawn]

yeah max wouldnt even work

thx for that reminder man

saved me a ton of power and sloops

[shy mulch]

slooping power shard production is also good, you can make it so that you doon't actually need to input any dark matter residue at all

[warped pawn]

not at that stage yet budd

i lost tons of time cuz of this project

[shy mulch]

Started my 3rd playthrough a couple days ago, this time decided not to give a * what anything looks like, zero organization whatsoever, just throw down buildings. It's so chaotic and completely opposite to my other playthroughs, but weirdly enjoyable in a different way. I'm actually having to force myself to be messy, I'm naturally attracted to using foundations and making things organised and nice

[warped pawn]

i also just noticed slooping alumina solution isnt possible cuz it makes 1200/m

istg why didnt i notice this

[reef basin]

why not sloop final product

[warped pawn]

i will

i just have to recalculate a ton of stuff

[reef basin]

then why are you talking about slooping alumina solution? 🤔

[warped pawn]

i previously slooped it and when i was reminded of travel speeds i rechecked everything

god i hate decimals

[hard ivy]

A number is a number 🤷‍♂️

[shell grove]

is there a way to angle foundations 45? I need a half wide slope and since that isn't there I was curious as to if it's possible to make a foundation angle so I could use a half foundation

[reef basin]

can't you rotate them with 5 degree increments or smth like that?

[dense violet]

They mean tilt

And no

[hasty stratus]

only when not attaching it to another i think

[warped pawn]

logistic floors are the reason i havent gone insane yet

[shell grove]

darn... kinda dissapointed with that NGL

[rare minnow]

are hypertube canons still good with the new update?

[reef basin]

they were never good

[mortal ginkgo]

they still work as they are not meant to

[rare minnow]

gotcha

uh, a hog just attacked me at my base...

ive had my base up for a few days now, idk how that guy got here

[dense violet]

clipe a full ramp foundation into a wall half way

[mortal ginkgo]

it was possible that it spawned somewhere else but roamed towards your base, or spawned there if your base unpowdered

[shell grove]

need it in a place where I can't do that

[warped pawn]

i just noticed u can put multiple pipes in the space of 1 pipe, i have 3 pipes where 1 pipe would fit

[rare minnow]

it clipped up through my floor lmao

[mortal ginkgo]

Classico

[hard ivy]

You can do the same with belts too

They just need to start and end at different spots

[shell grove]

I mean for pipes I can understand, but belts look so nice with all the items rushing past

[dense violet]

or use beams or pillars

[warped pawn]

check #screenshots

[shell grove]

not same colour/texture as Asphalt

[warped pawn]

id only do conveyors if they were not gonna be seen

[lone adder]

I haven't been able to play satisfactory 1.1 since it came out but one of the things I'm the most excited for are the lifts, , so has anyone here done some really cool builds using it?

[shell grove]

if they aren't gonna be seen I would keep them seperate for easy editing/problem solving still

also I hate how conveyor/pipe floor holes interant with buildings, I was gonna use them to make the refinery pipe come out the roof withouth looking weird

[quaint flax]

can anyone check #screenshots

[reef basin]

these questions are better asked in #1038092680493801533 , you can attach the image there

#screenshots is mostly for showing off your factory

[quaint flax]

my bad

[warped pawn]

should i take out powershards and replace them with sloops? to get more outputs with less inputs.

[atomic notch]

Sure

[shy mulch]

you get more value if you use both, if you want to use sloops in a machine you might as well get as much as you can from the sloop by having the machine also at 250%

[atomic notch]

Lol

[warped pawn]

i have pipe/conveyor limitations so i cant do both, even if i had max conveyors

[left totem]

26GW particle accelarator incoming

[shy mulch]

if you want to maximise efficiency, do as greeny suggested earlier, just boost the final products

you won't run into conveyer limitations on final products

[leaden turret]

you're not trying hard enough

[left totem]

if you boost the final and the pre final product, you get x4

it's what I did to get quick 1000 nuclear pasta from my factory when I needed them

[shy mulch]

1000 nuclear pasta per min is pretty huge, you not better off going further up the chain and slooping the singularity cells or warp drive / ficsonium, whichever you are using it on

[dense violet]

you can paint pillars completely black

[shy mulch]

if anything it's the copper that would have me worried about supply at that scale hah

[dense violet]

in any case, choose your worst poison

and suck it up

[shy mulch]

I choose thioacetone

[shell grove]

I choose slowly getting poisoned by car/engine exhaust over several years due to my work enviroment

[shy mulch]

Why do you work behind a car?

Turn the car to face the other way, problem solved

[shell grove]

nah, I have to hang above car engines pretty much every day for work

normal cars already have some pretty nasty fumes when their engines only just turned off a few seconds ago, let alone truck/mulag engines

[warped pawn]

i used to need 450 alumina solution/m for 1200 alumina scrap/s now i need 360 alumina solution/m for 1200 scrap lets goo

[last jungle]

should i try to setup a train to transport fuel to fuel power gens cuz my oil is far from base

[warped pawn]

put the oil gens where the fuel is

[rare thunder]

guys

my elevator has no elevator what do i do

[steady glade]

does it have floors?

[rare thunder]

ah

maybe it needs more than 1

[warped pawn]

it does

[thorn tiger]

Dhdhdh where would you like to go ser? Floor 1 or floor 1?

[round barn]

Quick question. Will there be a live stream today? I believe they said not this week, but not sure.

[timid rune]

Is 16x converter all slooped at 250% converting Aluminum to ficsite way overkill for post-endgame shenanigans?

[shut lava]

No

[left totem]

I stopped playing the game after I finished it

also I think the correct grammatical form is : you're better off not going...

[timid rune]

tbf 23% goes to my powergen already

[gleaming oak]

Another update that nobody asked for

[tropic plover]

Why does the Alien Power Augmentor have a belt input?

[hard ivy]

alien power matrix

[tropic plover]

Oh okay, so guess I need to get to that milestone still

[left totem]

end game milestone

[shy mulch]

that would be completely the opposite meaning, I was writing a rhetorical question, colloquially missing out the first word "are"
"are you not better off..."

[left totem]

without the intonation, could be hard to misunderstand the meaning

[stark solar]

You don't need to power the Alien Power Augmenter, being fed just makes it a little better

[south sinew]

ok I've changed my mind a bit

I hate how Pure Iron Ingot is so close to but not exactly 1:2 ore:ingot

[quaint flax]

why my middle assembler doesn't fill while left and the right side of it fills?

[green fiber]

Use basic or leached then

[quaint flax]

I did the manifold

[green fiber]

Pure is mainly there to screw with you

[hard ivy]

or just ignore it

[south sinew]

nah, Pure is still my favourite alt

[green fiber]

I never liked pure iron

[south sinew]

just wish it was slightly cleaner to use

I think I'll just be forced to accept that my belts aren't 100% full

[green fiber]

Honestly, it deserves to be how it is.
Iron is abundant and the other alts deserve their spots too

[hard ivy]

it's perfect for mk5 belts lol

[green fiber]

Basic is a great way to compactly double iron. Iron Alloy is for when you have useless copper near you and Leached is for when you feel extra fancy when you want your iron ingots

[south sinew]

I'm at mk4 right now, but I might just learn to live with the output being 2x 92% belts

[runic bone]

guys... im out of somersloops...

i.. caught them all

[mortal ginkgo]

where are you using the heckin' 106 somers?

[runic bone]

thats not important

[mortal ginkgo]

Jesus Christ mate, it is important

[runic bone]

point is.. im out, now i need to figure out how to make more

[runic bone]

that is my name, yes

[mortal ginkgo]

you cant.. make them Jesus

[runic bone]

i swear theres the thing in the MAM

[mortal ginkgo]

they are about finding them, using them as power, or using them in machines

but you can't create spheres or sloops

[bitter lodge]

for power shards-

sloops are limited.

[runic bone]

yeah, the alien power matrix

[bitter lodge]

spheres are limited.

[runic bone]

thats what i need

tooltip does say "An attempt at a manmade somersloop"

[mortal ginkgo]

ah you mean that one, well it is an attempt, alas a failed one.

[dense violet]

a failed attempt

[runic bone]

NO

[mortal ginkgo]

it boosts the somersloop power from 10% to 30% (the buff), so you need less sloop power machines

[dense violet]

They are called APAs, not sloops. That should be a give away

[runic bone]

i know that, but i havent ever botehred with one until i used all the Sloops

[mortal ginkgo]

But Jesus bro

[dense violet]

you never need them either

[mortal ginkgo]

we need to know what you sloopin' so we can help

[runic bone]

anything thats too slow, i

[mortal ginkgo]

maybe you are sloopin' metal bars

[dense violet]

just make more machines

[runic bone]

if its not fast enough, i make more, if im too lazy, i make more

[dense violet]

you dno't need sloops for that

[runic bone]

nah, the bible dictates that im allowed to be lazy

[mortal ginkgo]

bruh

[green fiber]

I think Jesus got to taste the sloop juice and got a biiiiit too hung up on it

[mortal ginkgo]

fake Jesus confirmed

I thought he was the real one but alas

[sharp sentinel]

So my dismantler is stuck on blueprint mode, and I can't seem to find in key bindings how to change modes. Does anyone know?

[dense violet]

probably republican jesus. Worst version

[runic bone]

nah nah, drunk jesus

[mortal ginkgo]

mods, get'im

this Jesus is drunk with POWER

[loud leaf]

how do conveyor floor holes work?

[bitter lodge]

"r"

[runic bone]

no water, only wine, including the 70% that make up my body... the other 30% is bread..

[bitter lodge]

is how you change mode

[sharp sentinel]

My saviour.

[tropic plover]

R

[frozen ingot]

You can connect vertical belts to them

[loud leaf]

i cant get them to connect

[dense violet]

are you using belts or lifts?

[loud leaf]

lifts

[dense violet]

aim at the hole listen for a click, press the button

[bitter lodge]

its not one lift through the hole

I know sounds weird, but one lift connects top and one connects bottom. But they link together

[loud leaf]

i got it now, thanks

[vestal mica]

summer vacations? either those devs are all still in high school or they're all still in europe

[dense violet]

civilised places have 1 month + paid holidays

[vestal mica]

you gotta work year round if you want all this freedom

[bitter lodge]

I'm happy 1.1 dropped before their vacay :>

[lusty pollen]

wait does the main menu background adapt to your save's progress ?

[stark solar]

I don't think it does, because you can have several different active saves at different points

[sharp sentinel]

So... My docking station markers aren't leaving the map even after the station is gone. Anyone know how to fix this?

[bitter lodge]

tried to reload?

[sharp sentinel]

I will openly admit that I didn't even consider that.

Can't believe I have a fully working computer factory, and still don't have a heavy modular frame factory.

[south sinew]

ok, I'm thinking now that having blueprints with ceilings built in is a bad idea

[bitter lodge]

HMF aren't bad

[south sinew]

I kinda want to rework my blueprint but now I realise that will mean, literally pulling the floor out from underneath the floors above

[bitter lodge]

There is a good alt recipe I would recommend. I manage to make 9/min

[south sinew]

and re-placing that seems.. painful

might try a walled one instead

[sharp sentinel]

They're actually quite easy I just happen to have the factory that makes frames 800m from the factory where most everything else happens. I'll work on a truck shortly.

[bitter lodge]

if I gotta delete stuff from a BP im gonna spam, I am not using that BP xD

OH

So you are making modular frames elsewhere and gonna import?

that is smart. I made entirely seperate factory for HMF xD

[sharp sentinel]

I usually didn't even mess with frames until lategame. Tons of handcrafting, but this time I challenged myself. 3x3 3 story factory that literally just makes frames.

[bitter lodge]

that sounds cool

[sharp sentinel]

I could expand it all to be a larger ordeal over the top of grassy plains and then it'd be even easier....

[bitter lodge]

I imagine it would be a tight fit with like refineries and such?

[sharp sentinel]

I don't really need refineries in it.

[bitter lodge]

for HMF?

[sharp sentinel]

Why do you need refineries for steel pipes, frames, industrial beams, and screws?

[bitter lodge]

omg

the default doesn't use rubber

[sharp sentinel]

Please don't talk to me about rubber. 😦

[bitter lodge]

I didn't even realize it doesn't use rubber

[sharp sentinel]

My train and trucks had filled a freaking station with 3000 rubber.

[bitter lodge]

wait. now I am confused what recipe I used

[sharp sentinel]

And it's STILL SINKING

[vagrant oar]

who uses trucks/genq

[sharp sentinel]

So I can delete that specific station.

[vagrant oar]

like is there any benefit to trucks over just making a stack of belts

[sharp sentinel]

Before drones they're good for short-distance delivery.

[bitter lodge]

I used Heavy encased frame- but built it at my oil factory o.e...

[vagrant oar]

I feel like stacks are more versatile, more reliable supply wise and more pleasing to be stretching long distances?

[sharp sentinel]

Without cluttering the map.

[bitter lodge]

and now I idk why I did that

[vagrant oar]

ah

[leaden turret]

autopilot paths can be reused, so well-scheduled trucks mean you can expand throughput by adding one more truck.

to expand throughput on a belt network, you need to re-run the entire length of the belt network.

[sharp sentinel]

Plus they don't eat my entire store of industrial beams.

[vagrant oar]

drones scare me because I use them for aluminium and I have to go unblock those because every now and then they just... die of fuel

[sharp sentinel]

Not to mention if you don't have stackable conveyor poles pre-built into the line then you may have to completely rebuild it because as far as I can tell they do not snap.

[sharp sentinel]

You need to work on having fuel setup to auto-feed into the stations and monitoring the amount of fuel used between the two stations.

If they're dying randomly then you aren't keeping up fuel enough to power them long-term.

[bitter lodge]

belt highways are 10x easier with auto connect blueprints :>

[noble timber]

Vehiculs are not on their right place and the elevator vanished in all floors.

[bitter lodge]

they do fix themselves

like if a truck goes onto its side, it does just...phase back onto the path and carry on

[noble timber]

bug?

And what about the elevator?

[bitter lodge]

OH

You meant this is happening in your game right now

[noble timber]

its completly vanished.

[bitter lodge]

uh...Sorry, no idea :<

[light iron]

what is the best place to spawn in

[sharp sentinel]

In my previous save I had an entire network manufacturing turbofuel just for my drones.

[bitter lodge]

how many times have you played the game?

[bitter lodge]

my suggestion would be just to reload?

otherwise if it is bugged, you may have to replace everything

[noble timber]

I did but nothing happened.

[light iron]

not that much but i hate my save in the grassfields

[bitter lodge]

If I recall correctly....

I believe the second or third spawn option has a lot of resources of iron, copper and limestone

[light iron]

what about water and coal

[bitter lodge]

water and coal are a bit away.

like maybe 500-1k away

but in terms what is "best" is a matter of opinion.

[light iron]

thats not that far

[green fiber]

Every start has coal sorta far away from where you actually spawn

[bitter lodge]

Cause if you want a central factory area, I would go to the spawn I am thinking of (if I could remember exactly which one) I just know there is like 3 pure iron nodes basically holding hands. That would work great. if you want independent factories....uh. Grass :>

[light iron]

is it rocky desert

[bitter lodge]

Perhaps?

I am not on the game right now to check ;-;

[light iron]

the description says close to the sea so alot of water

[bitter lodge]

its like central northish spawn

Northern Forest

:) found an image online. North forest. The limestone is up on a pillar ish, and 3 iron nodes right near it down a little.

[crude canyon]

Ok guys, I have a challenge idea for the truly crazy
MK1 belts only

[rapid wren]

Grassy area has the easiest coal i think, 2 great sources.

[light iron]

all nodes in the starting area on north forest are pure

[bitter lodge]

which is a lot of resources :D

[bitter lodge]

not really a challenge?

[light iron]

and 3 pure coal nodes nearby with pure iron

[bitter lodge]

Ya you're limited to 60/Min logistics, but to overcome this is just...build more?

[light iron]

great for power and stee;

[timid rune]

9600 ficsite trigons/min should be doable hmmm

[crude canyon]

Yes. But theres a lot of things that output more than 60 a min

[sharp sentinel]

#screenshots message

This is my 'Just makes frames.' factory.

[bitter lodge]

then the issue just becomes reallllllyyyy sllooowww production

[bitter lodge]

so smol

[sharp sentinel]

It was a fun little challenge for me.

[crude canyon]

And you'll be asking for a lot of your logistics

[bitter lodge]

ya xD

difference between an mk1 belt iron factory and mk5 belt iron factory is your outputs

[sharp sentinel]

Time to build my first bauxite processing plant, so hyped!

Maybe I should do the HMF factory first...

[bitter lodge]

My iron factory is still rocking mk1 miners and mk1 belts :) im gonna be upscaling it to mk2 and mk5 belts after work. I am excited to see how much I can output

[bitter lodge]

I would do this first

let those cook in the background :>

[sharp sentinel]

I could use an alt recipe to make another floor on my screw factory to produce steel and combine it without even using trucks. It'd just be a bit slower... But more fun!

[bitter lodge]

bauxite takes a lot of different resources. I also suggest some alt recipes to make it easier on yourself. Like sloppy alum, and pure alum ingots.

I just made my bauxite last night :D 300 sheets and casing/min

only cost me 720 bauxite as well.

[kind obsidian]

Been playing around with older popular manifolds of fuel layouts and a lot of them just don't quite work the same anymore without a lot of tweaking . It's fun and disturbing at the same time tried and true formulas just don't work the same anymore 🙃

[sharp sentinel]

This save is all about teaching myself to do stuff tidily. My other one was... Messy...

[noble timber]

Satisfactory is unplayable since 1.1 version. I think that new version wasnt ready yet to release. New stock vanished like the elevator and vehiculs are floating in the sky or appearing like a spider on the wall defying the gravity. So the game is bugged.

[crude canyon]

Yeah and my friend has been crashing a lot in our multiplayer game

[bitter lodge]

Personally having no issues on 1.1 single player

maybe its a harddrive issue? or just need to verify integral files?

[mortal ginkgo]

single player is "fine" but multiplayer got borked quite heavily as people reports, it seems

[sharp sentinel]

Waiting for the big reveal that these are saves from EA.

[mortal ginkgo]

now I am unsure if devs are entitled to support dedicated servers

[white dawn]

I mean, supporting older saves is something CSS explicitly wants to support, so using saves from EA shouldn't be problematic

[noble timber]

I plyaing in solo too but all those thing happened in my game. And I never see those thing before. I have over than 3000 hours of play in that game.

[tropic dove]

Hey, weird Question, but whats better in Multiplayer?
Building Walls around a Production (Cable)
or just Leaving them open?

And another Question: How much Foundations can i build without much Performance Problems? I wanted to build like 2000

[sharp sentinel]

Wait, you have a 3000 hour save?

From what I've heard the longer a save goes and the more you put in it, the greater the strain on your PC, and the weirder the issues get.

So that may be the issue there.

[bitter lodge]

I imagine more structures will depend on the capability of whatever server hosting you are using

the more the server has to render, the stronger it needs to be

[tropic dove]

Okay, so if i put them like 500 Metres away from each other, it wouldnt be that much of a Performance Issue?

[bitter lodge]

I am taking guesses

but I would also wager no.

because satisfactory basically keeps the entire world loaded at once.

[noble timber]

No in play since I began to play on that game on the early version before the official version. Not on one save.

[bitter lodge]

You can build a factory 5km away, but its producing 20 plates/min. Its gonna be constantly doing that, whether you are there, or 5km away

[tropic dove]

Okay. So i think it would be much better just to keep everything at one Location.
But i know in Early Acces there was some Performance Issues when you look at a Big Factory. When you Put Walls around it, it wasnt much an Issue. Is this still the same?

[kind obsidian]

Am be no means a network expert but in single play due to the rendering on demand now game loads quicker. But depending how many people on server and spread out the game has to process a helluva lot more and keep things stable

[sharp sentinel]

Oof. Just realised I don't have an alt recipe to produce steel beams with iron, just steel pipes.

That's alright though, I should have a straight shot from a factory I can easily convert to deliver steel.

Biggest struggle I've made for myself with trucks is my hypertube network is at times in the way.

[kind obsidian]

Yeah if ya stay true and don't unlock the recipe the easy way your gonna need to go hard drive hunting;) This save doing everything the vanilla way to experience the pod deleting which is trueley satisfying. But I swear they added more ADA voice dialogs. Including a very disturbing one about killing a soul.

[dense violet]

still performance issues if you're running a potato

and if you're doing a large set up doing final phase stuff you'll hve issues even w/o a potato

[sharp sentinel]

It was in the patch notes they added more. Only reason I started a new save.

[loud leaf]

when im making a trains station for loading freight trains do i need both a train station and a freight station?

[sharp sentinel]

Without the freight station it'll never load just move around.

[loud leaf]

okay, but it costs so much power to have both stations at both sides of the track

[sharp sentinel]

Then build more power.

Trains aren't meant to be easy.

[loud leaf]

i have 2 fuel powered generators but its still not enough

[dense violet]

you need 1 'station' part for each stop you want it stopping at 🙂

aim to find 3-4 coal nodes next to water - make as much coal power as you can. 48-64 coal gens is pretty normal before doing a big fuel station

[loud leaf]

are coal generators better than the fuel generators?

[sharp sentinel]

POV: I had 18 coal gens running at maximum overclock, but now I only have 8 or so because I have a bunch of fuel gens doing it now.

[dense violet]

just simpler. especially if you're new. Don't you have any coal?

[steady drum]

hi, water's infinite right?
and extraction speed is not affected by pool depth/size?

[cursive crane]

Yes, and no

[loud leaf]

i have coal but its annoying to make the water pumps

[kind obsidian]

If it locks on, you should be able to use if you're allowed to place it even though it looks ridiculous.Because it looks like you're mostly sitting in a sand pit

[cursive crane]

well infinite until you completely cover the body of water lmao

[reef basin]

then build at water level and you don't need any pumps
pumps are only needed to go up

[dense violet]

how so? don't you have ht parts automated?

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch traincar

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=traincar

[loud leaf]

couldnt find any coal thats close to water

[jade glade]

when you build a miner on a pure node, which produces 240 items per minute, do you use tier 3 conveyor because it transfers 270 items per minute and is the cheapest option, or do you use any conveyor belt you use regulary

[kind obsidian]

Yeah listen to the math boss👆 Nearly every manifold I ever build is gravity fed.

[dense violet]

every starter zone has at least one really good spot for that

just go have a wander 🙂

[kind obsidian]

I wised that a long time ago.In this game and utilized the console commands to monitor the height in the game.So that I always know that the Extractors are higher than everything else.

[reef basin]

move coal to water

[cursive crane]

you build the highest level of belt at the time, and upgrade later as possible because overclocking and higher MK miners are very much a thing

[loud leaf]

so the coal gens are better than fuel?

[cursive crane]

fuel gens are better

biomass burners are worse

[warped pawn]

ive decreased my extra water output from 10k/m to now 2k/m

[kind obsidian]

And diluted fuels are better than that It's just the complexities in the amount of time. You want to invest and how much power you want to have pretty much is up to you

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch fuel

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fuel

[maiden notch]

Fuel is yummy

[cursive crane]

fuel consumption table> #screenshots message

[kind obsidian]

Oil that is! Black Gold! Texas Tea 😆

[maiden notch]

Satisfactory 2: The Quest For More Tickets

[kind obsidian]

After all these years of playing, though I have not really found a good use for these elevators yet. Gotten too used to using hypertubes for nearly everything.

[white dawn]

counterpoint: hypertubes don't have that funky music while you travel!

[maiden notch]

After all these years I still can't stand hypertubes

[austere basin]

When is satisfactory releasing on xbox?

[maiden notch]

Soon™

[white dawn]

A release date has not been announced. I wouldn't expect it earlier than August at this point, though

CSS have their summer hols right about now

[maiden notch]

Console and Unreal 5

[green fiber]

Thats because you are supposed to fly through them

[maiden notch]

ah

[austere basin]

K just asking it bc it on the microsoft store now and I prefer my xbox bc my pc is not great bc I can run it at about 30 frames at most

[maiden notch]

Didn't know this game was on the Microsoft store

Although it would be pretty cool to have a one time buy for Microsoft Store and Xbox

[austere basin]

Yeah it says currently not available

[maiden notch]

ah

[austere basin]

But also recently released

[noble timber]

On the last version the game is bug.

New stock vanishing.

[warped pawn]

is there like a reason why everytime i tab out of satisfactory my game lags so bad until i reload?

[maiden notch]

idk. I usually blame the engine

[reef basin]

it's not yet

[austere basin]

And my pc is bad so i prefer my xbox for the time being and it's the only game I really loved in a long time

[maiden notch]

What's your specs if you don't mind me asking

[queen nimbus]

Is it worth overclooking power generation machinery or is it better to place more

[maiden notch]

place more is better

[warped pawn]

gefore rtx 3060 ryzen 5 5500 and like 32 gb of ram

i never lagged before it just started getting laggy after tabbing out

[maiden notch]

That's more than enough to run the game

Oh wait you're not the other guy

[warped pawn]

oh lmao

[next umbra]

Yeah alt-tabbing can do that to any game.

[warped pawn]

its never happened to me before

[next umbra]

Doesn’t mean it can’t happen

[undone yarrow]

Over locked power generators purely save you on building count, which is great if you don't use the power shards elsewhere, especially when late game rocket fuel factories use 100s of generators

[sharp sentinel]

... Well. That was weird. Recorded a truck path, never went off edges. Turned on auto-pilot. truck immediately drives off the cliff.

[reef basin]

depends whether you want to save space or power

[reef basin]

that's where you go nuclear instead

[reef basin]

well trucks go from node to node, they do not follow the path directly

[sharp sentinel]

I need more sloops.

[queen nimbus]

for like fuel power generators

[reef basin]

depends if you want to save space or shards

[queen nimbus]

so there is no difference on the power production?

[reef basin]

no

[queen nimbus]

thanks shawty

[reef basin]

one piece of fuel will always make the same amount of MJ

[compact python]

It’s still weird that there is no downside for overclocking generators

[reef basin]

there was, but it got changed because people complained 😦

[sweet linden]

@vital matrix you play that in the sandbox mode?

[undone yarrow]

Was it the scaling being funky, or something else?

[vital matrix]

No? Why do you ask. It just took a hell of a lot of time for everything

[reef basin]

yeah that

[sweet linden]

looks like creative mode, especially when you need the resources, nice work tho

[vital matrix]

I have a mod that is faster crafting so its much easier to gather materials, but thank you

[loud leaf]

is there a way to make a train go back and forth on one track?

[reef basin]

put loco on both ends

[undone yarrow]

innane rambling I wonder how much plutonium waste per minute turned to some amount of ficsonium would be appropriate for 240 ionized fuel per minute instead of the singularity cell and DMR

[reef basin]

that's called "overclocking" and is in base game 😛

[undone yarrow]

And the silly idea of using SAM flucuators in place of the control rods and significantly less trigons or something for the fuel rod :P

[vital matrix]

Oh yes, im using that for some buildings but im talking about manually crafting

[elder apex]

they are probably talking about the Faster Manual Crafting mod

[vital matrix]

Yup

[reef basin]

why would you manual craft in a game about automation? 🤔

[sharp sentinel]

Got to be part of a nature documentary. I tried to use a nuke obelisk on some jumpers, and missed them. Instead I blew up all the obstructions and they started fighting a bunch of hogs and they all killed one another.

[vital matrix]

😭😭😭 because in some ways its better for me at least, its easier to upgrade factories with a larger power infrastructure

[reef basin]

automate the materials for the big power project then

[elder apex]

Because in some cases you can manually craft things before you can automate them due to machine availability, ie. crystal oscillators, SAM Fluctuators, etc.

[steady drum]

do pipe junctions balance? or do they dump all into one exit until its full, then go to next?

[reef basin]

neither, as pipes are bidirectional

[steady drum]

well if theres a pump on the other side

are they still bidirectional?

[reef basin]

yes

any pipe section is bidirectional

[steady drum]

i see, so how would i balance 3x120 into 2x180 of mk1 pipes?

[reef basin]

you don't, you hook each pipe to machine(s) that consume that much

[abstract heron]

for a second there i thought greeny was mikael

🤣

Should i ping mikael to ask for a Friday video @unborn gyro

@void gorge quick question are there still going to be videos in summer and our normal shecdule of 2 weeks in bweteen videos? and is there a video this Friday?

[noble timber]

You cant have a video if the game is bugged.

[abstract heron]

i just wanna play but its to hot

its 33C today maybe even 34C

[noble timber]

Same here in province of Quebec Canada. Very hot today.

[abstract heron]

Now we need to know if there is a friday video

[noble timber]

I dont know.

But the game is bugged.

[wide harbor]

Would it be called cheating if you only have fly mode on?

[hard ivy]

it's a singleplayer game. if you think it's cheating, it's cheating. if you don't, it's not

[noble timber]

No not necesserely.

[wide harbor]

I don't think it's cheating, but that really depends from person to person.

[wide harbor]

E

[pale ocean]

wdym

[noble timber]

All new stuff in the game vanishing after they are installed. including part of the walls.

[mystic oriole]

I think the game gets more interesting and builds creativity when people put limits on themself.

[noble timber]

Vehicules are floating in the air or are in inverse or are on the wall like a spider defying gravity.

[pale ocean]

Yeah i was looking for some kind of community challenge to start a new game

[mystic oriole]

My most recent challenge to myself is to stick to land. No rafts (only for water collection).

[noble timber]

More than 3000 hours in play.

But the game is bugged with version 1.1.

[mystic oriole]

that's not happening in my save

[noble timber]

You are lucky.

[abstract heron]

i have over 16,650hr in game

[pale ocean]

have you tried checking the integrity of game files or downgrading to a different patch?

[sand glacier]

I have around 300 and I thought that was insane

[warped pawn]

I MAKE 26 THOUSAND aluminum scrap/MINUTE with only mk2 miners

[sand glacier]

oh ok

[warped pawn]

it wasnt planed 😭

i thought at most 6k/min

[sand glacier]

ohh

[maiden notch]

Satisfactory on TempleOS when?

[muted harbor]

Look for a design for a nitrogen factory. Does anyone have any ideas?

[maiden notch]

Hopes and prayers mainly

But I recommend using a train system to send nitrogen to a factory area

[noble timber]

I did but no change.

[reef basin]

or build factory near nitrogen

[maiden notch]

I've tried building a factory in the areas where nitrogen is

[maiden notch]

I was just getting to that

[hard ivy]

place a node pressurizer, power it, place at least one extractor, and you've got nitrogen

[maiden notch]

Where nitrogen is but the resources for other stuff is too damn far away to be practical.

[muted harbor]

I'm currently working on a train to deliver the Access stuff to the factory

[maiden notch]

I highly recommend just building a train depot with as many cars as you need to transfer the nitrogen to a factory area. Building a factory near nitrogen nodes is impractical... Although I think there's only like one spot you could get away with it. It is near some uranium in the center of the map... I think

[reef basin]

why would be building near nitrogen impractical? 🤔

you ship solids to fluids

no need to deal with packaging

[noble timber]

On Q & A site many players reporting the same thing as me with vehicules but also with stuff desappearing.

[maiden notch]

I meant why build a bigass factory near nodes when you could ship it off via train.

[noble timber]

Since version 1.1.

[reef basin]

yeah but shipping (and packaging) nitrogen is pain

[muted harbor]

Well the train isn't going to be right on top of the nitrogen

[maiden notch]

How? You don't need to package it

[reef basin]

packaging is 4x more space efficient

[maiden notch]

The train cars work just fine

[hard ivy]

8x, actually

[maiden notch]

Oh I see. You're packaging challenged.

Lmao

[reef basin]

I'm counting return cars with packages

[maiden notch]

I kid I kid

But in all seriousness. Just have tank cars deliver them.

[hard ivy]

you can put the empty tanks into the same wagons, and it's still 8x

[maiden notch]

You won't need to waste resources on packaging

[reef basin]

that means more time spent loading (need double the stations), which reduces line throughput

[muted harbor]

Is this still about nitrogen

[maiden notch]

I'll tell chain of command where they can pack it.

[maiden notch]

Yes

[muted harbor]

Ok

[noble timber]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6821e9936b7c57319637754c
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/68337e1b6b7c57319637c5d7
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/67239cc3ddb9d97e0720ab78
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6712ff39ddb9d97e07203daa

[maiden notch]

Smooth

[hard ivy]

it's 8x denser and 1 minute slower. so it's about 6-7 times more transfer rate per wagon (with mk5 or mk6 belts). depends on the round trip time

[noble timber]

A little part of the report on Q & A site.

[muted harbor]

What is 8x

[noble timber]

So the game is bugged and unplayable for now.

[maiden notch]

Always has been

[warped pawn]

please help in #screenshots 😭

[maiden notch]

Yes we are in #satisfactory

[warped pawn]

lmao wrong channel

[noble timber]

I put a screenshot on that channel.

[maiden notch]

Kek

[noble timber]

Nobody responded

[warped pawn]

im glad there is no z fighting

[noble timber]

All new stuff are vanished after installed.

[reef basin]

help is in #1038092680493801533 or #design-and-architecture or #math-and-meta

#screenshots is for showing off

[reef basin]

devs read all reports, but they do not have time to respond to them

[south sinew]

wow dismantle crates really are basically infinite

I got one with like 500 slots of stuff

[noble timber]

I did but they referred me to Q & A site.

But on that site we have many bug report on the same thing as me.

For flying vehicules too.

[cunning fern]

In the Alien Megafauna Research branch, I unlocked the +6 inventory slots. However, I got only 3 slots. Have I done something wrong? I haven't researched a stinger carcass yet because I haven't found any.

[warped pawn]

i once deleted 5 full industrial storages, they all fit in one boxi just deleted it with scim

[south sinew]

Can't quite do that because I need those materials, probably gonna have to set up some DDs to feed it all back

[maiden notch]

Lego Satisfactory when?

[vestal mica]

did you skip onboarding?

[reef basin]

rejected, so most likely never

[maiden notch]

Damn

Megabloks Satisfactory when?

[noble timber]

I saw satisfactory mod on factorio.

[maiden notch]

Yeah there's a mod that combines the games. Archipelago mod

And power sharing. Idk how it works. Probably some black magic or something

Basically you need to get blueprints for each game and send em to their worlds

[noble timber]

Game without bugs when?

[south sinew]

never, that's not how software works

[noble timber]

So dont release it.

[south sinew]

then you never get paid and people never get the satisfaction of enjoying the vast majority of stuff that does work

[noble timber]

Yes but before fix all bugs before the release.

Whenever if it take much time.

[south sinew]

that is the same as just not releasing it because all bugs will never be fixed

[noble timber]

You a experimental version first.

[open pollen]

Tbh it’s probably impossible to fix all bugs since you may not know about a lot of them till there are a lot of people playing

[reef basin]

bugless software doesn't exist

[south sinew]

they did

[warped pawn]

no software

[noble timber]

I think it will be very more easy with a quantum computer who are all ready exist.

[south sinew]

quantum computers have nothing to do with fixing bugs

[reef basin]

quantum computers have nothing to do with making games in general

[south sinew]

if anything it will be much harder because they are way more complicated and have inbuilt hardware errors

[noble timber]

Yes because its not the same technology we are using to make a game.

[south sinew]

it's not because it's not the same technology we are using, it's because it's useless for making games

[warped pawn]

should i make a city

[vestal mica]

it's been a long time since i had to take those classes. is it that bugless software doesn't exist, or that it's impossible to prove it's bugless?

[warped pawn]

make softerware

[reef basin]

well statistically any software has at least one bug 🙂

[south sinew]

you can make bugless software, and you can prove it's bugless, if you want to spend an insane amount of money on it and have it do very little

[vestal mica]

what does that mean

[south sinew]

I think literally the only example of anyone who ever thought this tradeoff was worth it was people writing code for space probes, and even they stopped doing it

[south sinew]

It costs such an obscene amount of money to do, you can only do it if you have tiny software and it still costs billions to get it done

[vestal mica]

i'm pretty sure i remember a proof from decades ago in school where we proved that it's impossible to prove that a program has no bugs if written in a turing complete programming language

[warped pawn]

im making a city.

[vestal mica]

or some shit

[south sinew]

You can intentionally restrict the power of the language you are using to avoid this problem, if you really want to

[smoky forge]

now i think you are 100% ai

this is not real human behavior

[reef basin]

it's probably similar/same to halting problem

[noble timber]

The creator of minecraft NOTCH didnt use money to create is game. it was simply a school work. But after that he have a team to work on is game and sell it to microsoft for few billions.

[vestal mica]

I don't know. i had to do a lot of math in college, but now I just take stuff out of a database and put it in a grid for some executive to "hmm" at

[smoky forge]

that is wildly oversimplified, skipping like 3 steps

[south sinew]

also Minecraft was definitely never bugless

[smoky forge]

it still hase dupes

[noble timber]

Its the short version.

[smoky forge]

will always have

[reef basin]

what? replying to a question?

[south sinew]

ok, 13 industrial containers later, I've managed to sort out that dismantle crate

[smoky forge]

not specificaly that

[reef basin]

then what lol?

[smoky forge]

the smiley

every time

[reef basin]

"every time" = once in a 100 messages

[smoky forge]

ah, ofc

[timber island]

:)

[mortal ginkgo]

(:

[smoky forge]

no this one is fine

[timber island]

oh woops i turned that setting off

[reef basin]

also why would smiley be sign of AI

[south sinew]

yes, that is inhumanly helperful

[smoky forge]

🙂 this one is crepy

[mortal ginkgo]

I love people stating their self justified opinions as mere facts

[smoky forge]

not only the smiley omd

[mortal ginkgo]

go outside a bit I say

[reef basin]

then what

[smoky forge]

just forget it

[timber island]

i already have

[south sinew]

could you be more specific?

[mortal ginkgo]

stating smilies are creepy as if it is a fact

whats next, typing is creepy?

[south sinew]

it was pretty clearly an opinion

[reef basin]

especially one of the OG smileys that kids nowdays don't even remember

back then we had like 6 smileys available

[mortal ginkgo]

I disagree.

[heady radish]

Blueprints are bugging and not letting me select a category/subcategory to put it in, maybe cause it was originally created in undefined??

[leaden ether]

Uh oh, I use the smilie all the time. Also I use the thumbs up still even though anyone under 25 thinks it is a sarcastic insult.

(I use it for it's actual meaning, not as a sacrastic insult to be clear)

😄

[reef basin]

I guess you're AI as well then, welcome to the club

[vestal mica]

i use thumbs up to indicate "i read your text message but I do not wish to continue this conversation."

[leaden ether]

It wouldn't be the first time. I was in a chat somewhere and because I used two complete sentences to reply to someone they accused me of being an AI bot.

[timber island]

aw hell nah

open the schools 😭

[reef basin]

it's fascinating how many times I've been accused of being a bot recently 🤔

[mortal ginkgo]

How dare you type properly. You need to write like lol bro zomgzorz kekbur ur so beta zomg liek kekeke

[vestal mica]

i'm still on the fence

[mortal ginkgo]

get off of it bro

[undone yarrow]

fences dont seem fun to sit on

[reef basin]

fencing on the other hand... pretty fun

[vestal mica]

says the russian guy who has issues with women

[mortal ginkgo]

wait who? me? when did I become russian and have problems with opposite sex?! D:

I like opposite sex 😦

[reef basin]

I guess at the same time when several people in this chat became AI bots

[hard ivy]

but does the opposite sex like you?

[reef basin]

right in the feels, that wasn't fair

[mortal ginkgo]

Do I need to ask every single one? They are a bit.. too many in numbers. Like, half of population or so?

[reef basin]

would make a nice statistics though, you could do graphs and powerpoints

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah, nobody would say "well bro you didnt ask all of them!". It would be a total statistic of every single female ranging from 18 to 100+

[blissful mesa]

is it just me or blueprint management is pain in the a..?

[vestal mica]

it is very clunky

[mortal ginkgo]

this game's blueprint system is a total mess

no I ain't taking it back

[leaden ether]

Yeah, I still haven't figured out how to delete something other than going into the game folders

[mortal ginkgo]

Sometimes they come back too

[hard ivy]

it's like 4 clicks

[blissful mesa]

deletion is kinda doable, but some other things are super unintuitive or near impossible. simple renaming is not a thing for example

[mortal ginkgo]

why can't we rename them without loading? Isnt that like, just a simple name change? <.<

[blissful mesa]

today I found out that actually after loading and "renaming" you actually new one with that name, the old one remains saved

[mortal ginkgo]

Madness

[blissful mesa]

yet sometimes when you want to create a new blueprint based on the old one it actually renames the old one...

also today I found out about a weird "feature" where picking (not loading) the blueprint from your build menu for some reason also loads it into the blueprint designer... even when you are not inside of it! that "feature" was actually messing up my work coz I wanted to reuse (combine) other blueprints, but it destroyed my progress

Even worse, it was inconsistent - sometimes it did load the selected blueprint, sometimes it didn't. I don't see any pattern.

[mortal ginkgo]

thats something that happened in 1.1, 1.0 didnt have this issue

it can happen at the worst time especially if you are making a blueprint out of other blueprints

[cloud crown]

How much would you pay for a new map on satisfactory

[blissful mesa]

I'd buy the game second time if the bugs and QOL issues were fixed

[reef basin]

nothing, because I know they don't want to make another and I don't want to force them

[cloud crown]

oh they said they didnt want to?

[reef basin]

yes

[fathom shuttle]

Is the default radio control unit recipe good

[reef basin]

all recipes are good 😉

[white dawn]

Technically modders could make a new map if they were willing to invest all the time + energy. Not necessarily CSS who's getting paid for it. :D

(Though 🤢 at paying for mods, but that's another topic. :)

[reef basin]

I mean I'd donate if it was good quality with a lot of playtime, doesn't necessarily need to be behind paywall

but I fail to see who would reasonably want to spend thousands of hours to make new map

[fathom shuttle]

I’m trying to build my supercomputer line, default recipe is hot dogshit

[reef basin]

I mean you can obviously have any opinion on any recipe, but not all people will share that opinion (which is kinda the basis for my response - how people see recipes will vary a lot, so asking if something is good will give you varying responses)

[white dawn]

I used the vanilla supercomputer recipe for all SCs on my 1.0 save

(speaking of. :)

[mortal ginkgo]

You can also summon some screw haters by stating "Cast Screws is a good recipe".

It works ALL Tthe time kek

[hard ivy]

it doesn't need any bauxite

the only dogshit recipe is default HMF

[fathom shuttle]

I know, I’m trying to see people’s experiences with the default vs alternates

[fluid sleet]

easiest exam ever

[cunning fern]

Yes, I skipped Onboarding.

[reef basin]

I'm not a screw hater, but I don't see cast screws as a good recipe

[leaden ether]

I ended up using the one that requires batteries which is still a pretty messed up recipie altogeather. An interesting added complication but worked out well in my circumstances (Assuming you have sulfur anywhere nereby)

[fathom shuttle]

I’m building my supercomputer line parallel with my heatsink/cooling systems line so this isn’t a deal breaker for me

[fathom shuttle]

My problem with it is how bad it is at utilizing computers, you need 4 computers for very supercomputer with the default recipe, with the alternate it’s 2 for 1

[white dawn]

Sure, but computers are pretty cheap

Or at least easy enough to produce en masse

[fathom shuttle]

I haven’t automated high speed connectors yet, so I’ll need some computers for that so idk

[white dawn]

And the other components for the vanilla SC recipe all use basically the same material inputs; it's a nice and straightforward line

(I have nothing against the SC alts too, just saying that IMO the vanilla recipe is just fine)

HSC + Computers are practically the same thing; production lines vary only slightly (though, obvs depends on what recipes you use)

[hard ivy]

nah, OC is pretty bad. expensive af and barely simpler.

but default and state are both good

[white dawn]

Heh, I admit that I've probably never actually used the OC alt

If you happen to have decided to already overproduce on RCUs + Cooling Systems, I imagine it could be quite convenient though. (Of course I always recommend against overproduction, so heh.)

Though I suppose that RCUs and Cooling Systems are probably quite easy to overproduce; if you set up those factories first with supercomputers in mind, it's probably not that much more effort to just make a bit extra for supercomputer purposes

I might not go for OC if I were building a supercomputer line from scratch, but if I had it in mind while building other stuff out...

[lucid pagoda]

my life has become refineries, just kill me

[leaden ether]

Yeah my electronics factory I swear was 50% refineries...

[hard ivy]

my singularity cell factory was 50% pure copper refineries

[lucid pagoda]

refineries are cancer, and they are always so necessary to be somewhat efficient

aluminum is all refineries if efficient, rubber and plastic

the absurd amount of copper for pasta is refineries

[leaden ether]

232 refineries, 337 everything else -.-

[lucid pagoda]

im boutta place 240 for plastic and rubber, i used a solid 150 for my fuel production last project

my aluminum will be around 180 if i remember my last design correctly

[quasi juniper]

Can i put a splitter directly to the minner and get 2 belts from there? (i have mk4 belts up to 470 items / minute and the miner produces 600 fully overclocked

[lucid pagoda]

you get mk 5 belts soon, you could build with them in mind

wait

no, mb

[undone yarrow]

I want a second refinery that is literally just a different model

to quote a meme tip on Pure Copper "Oh boy, more refineries, just what I wanted"

[lucid pagoda]

i confused 3 and 4

[lucid pagoda]

i wish inputs on machines were adjustable

refinery would be better if they were vertically stacked

[undone yarrow]

Like the Packager?

[lucid pagoda]

yea

packager is a saint to work with

at least imo

[loud ivy]

maybe hell was just the refineries we met along the way

[leaden ether]

I dunno, I had some problems with the pipe being raised before. Maybe if the pipe input was on the bottom...

[lucid pagoda]

yea, thats my only complaint abt packager, the pipes on top can be annoyin

[viral tendon]

Tier 8 fucking sucks

[undone yarrow]

It can, what in particular has your goat?

[viral tendon]

What

[undone yarrow]

What is making you say t8 sucks?

[viral tendon]

Bsically everything

Every milestone req

Like my brother, how am i supposed to make ai limiter high speed connector and compute at the same time

[lucid pagoda]

it does get real complicated, the advice i'd give that got me through it is to just take it slowly

find final product and focus on a single part first, then expand to the next part needed

[fathom shuttle]

Get mk3 miners and mk5 belts

[viral tendon]

Mk 5 eblts are in tier 7

[leaden ether]

You basically make a small electronics factory and, yes, build them all at the same time 🙂

[lucid pagoda]

or something that helps me is satisfactory modelor on steam, that tool has worked wonders for my factories and mental stability

[hard ivy]

I've been making those in one factory since tier 6

[viral tendon]

Also i'm not making 50 fuzed modulr frames and 100 supercomputers

[viral tendon]

Good for you

[smoky forge]

once you have one machine set up for those, even semi automatic, your life is saved

[lucid pagoda]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3187030/Satisfactory_Modeler/ give this a shot, seriously it can work wonders once learned

[viral tendon]

That's too complicated for my brain

[lucid pagoda]

its so much simpler than trying to math everything, its drag and drop for the most part

[undone yarrow]

By doing what the game has had you doing, build a factory. One for each item, you can start at the end and work backwords or start at the beginning and repeat until you have enough for the end.

Every Electronic up to Super Computers can be made with just Oil and Caterium if you want to keep the inputs simple

[viral tendon]

Before tier 8 i was actually enjoying the game now i need to somehow make 7.5 comouters per minute while my 2 shards overclocked manufacturer only makes 5

I do NOT hve that much resources

[lucid pagoda]

you must, the game gives enough resource for like 7 of every item per min

just make new factory at a place with resources

[shell obsidian]

I have a modpack with over 250 mods installed that was made prior to 1.1, I want to boot it up again but want to make sure that there are no mods that do not work in it. I do not really feel like going through over a gigabyte of different mods. Is there any way to filter installed mods that are not compatible so I can pause them?

[viral tendon]

Ig that's what i'll do

[leaden ether]

WHy do you need any sort of per minute rate? You can to 1 per minute, it'l get there pretty quickly anyway.

[lucid pagoda]

yea, this game is meant to be be spread out, many factories, chase the resources, dont make em come to u

[leaden ether]

WIth the ballistic warp drives you'll be lucky to even get one a minute 😄

[lucid pagoda]

well yes, but im just stating that there are much more resources provided, than needed

im trynna do 5 of every item per min in my current run

except for pasta, thats all goin to other productions once i finish Space elevator

[west jackal]

Just sloop it lol

[viral tendon]

I'm greedy

[west jackal]

Bam, 10 per min no extra input

[leaden ether]

Sorry, I was actually replying to RyanCat. Since there is no real production rate specified for the tier requirements, if resources are a problem, just let it run and do something else while it fills the order 😉

[lucid pagoda]

oh, all good

[viral tendon]

Why did they have to make things so complicated since completing phase 3

[loud ivy]

since you reached tier 3,you already possess the necessary skills to advance further-ADA

[fathom shuttle]

What’s the speed loss on 1m and 2m ramps?

[viral tendon]

Well i found out i don't make enough of everything so i will just make a whole new factory at the other part of the world

[leaden ether]

It's just the natural progression of the game. I can sympathize as phase four kinda knocked the wind out of my sails too at first. You just have to take a step back and realize you need to take things in smaller steps. Use Satisfactory Tools and then divide up the stages by hand and build them floor by floor one at a time.

[loud ivy]

connect it with the main base with a two-way track,thank yourself later

[west jackal]

Personally I like making sc in that little lake area in south east? Couple pure oils there. I think I was doing 3 or 4 manufacturers of sc

[undone yarrow]

PRetty much~

[west jackal]

Also alts help... a LOT

[reef basin]

that's still much harder than other tools where you just let the tool calculate it itself

[viral tendon]

I believe it will be way more comlictad

[lucid pagoda]

#screenshots message this is my old supercomputer production

[west jackal]

Have you looked at sc alts?

[loud ivy]

not really
do you have the BP designer mk2?

[viral tendon]

I unlocked sc 20 minutes ago

[viral tendon]

Yep

[lucid pagoda]

yea, i just find it easier because im internalizing each step as i do it, makes it more manageable

[west jackal]

Find an alt for it you like. And use alts! They reduce required resources and can make life easier

[loud ivy]

you can easily build skybridges with rails on them,just build a piece of the bridge in the bp designer and copy paste
it will get you to the resources very quickly and conveniently

[viral tendon]

If i unlocked sc recipe i think you could tell i know about alt recipes

[loud ivy]

also,get yourself a hypertube cannon blueprint,and an "added power" module for it
vastly increases mobility between factories

[reef basin]

or just use trains or normal tubes, as you rarely need to travel between factories

[viral tendon]

I use trains because they're peak

[west jackal]

No? Not rlly

My first sc factory had no alts... it was tough

And I don't want to spoonfeed answers I wsnt you to research the alts 😗

[viral tendon]

It's crazy work if you completed phase 3 without any alts

[loud ivy]

i personally have hypertubes at every location that i have to visit,no matter the size of that location
they are probably drawing about 2-3gw of power at this point

[viral tendon]

They're not being used atleast you're near them

[fathom shuttle]

I’m getting train-flation
at this point I’m doing a train for Caterium, concrete, copper and coal

[viral tendon]

Train is fast and reliable

[ionic hawk]

Is there any way to load and unload a train cart at the same freight platform?

[viral tendon]

And it can hold resources

[fathom shuttle]

Use different trains

One for each item, way easier

[loud ivy]

glad to hear that

[hard ivy]

still can't. the load/unload setting is per platform, not per train

[viral tendon]

Time to have a stroke making sc factory from scratch!

[loud ivy]

same!
train spaghetti>conveyor spaghetti

[viral tendon]

My rain has like 10-15 storage carts

[west jackal]

Not too bad.. phase 4 is hard without alts tho. Still doable just slow

[loud ivy]

my trains top out at 4

[west jackal]

I think that it's better to split into trains with 4 cars

[viral tendon]

I have 1 train

[loud ivy]

only because at 4 they require 2 locomotives

[west jackal]

And have many train

[viral tendon]

I see no point in more than 1 train

[loud ivy]

i do have 8 train stations at my factory complex,and about 20 trains total on the map

[loud ivy]

you have a train for multiple resources?

[viral tendon]

I transport resources with conveyors

[loud ivy]

now you're just confusing me

why need train when conveyor do fine?

[viral tendon]

So i can travel

[west jackal]

huh??

[viral tendon]

I travel with trains

[west jackal]

Why 10 -15 cars then

[viral tendon]

So i can get resources with me when i need to go somewhere

[west jackal]

Just get DD

And upgrade them

[viral tendon]

I have it

It's not that easy to get 30 mercer speres

[west jackal]

My inventory stays relatively empty now that I have them mostly maxed

[vital crane]

does some one know how to get molten salt in the R&D refined energie mod ??

[west jackal]

Scanner makes it easy plus looking for sloops

[viral tendon]

My dd can hold only 300 of aluminium things for mk5 belt

And i use train to load up those

[west jackal]

Don't ask abt mods there is a separate modded discord

[vital crane]

ik but they are not responding

[west jackal]

Put2 dd for sheets that way it fills quicker

[west jackal]

Oh.. well sorry idk abt that mod

[vital crane]

oh ok

[viral tendon]

I alr have dd for them

[vital crane]

thank you

[viral tendon]

But 300 is not enough

[west jackal]

Get 2

Or upgrade

[viral tendon]

Still 300

[west jackal]

This way it refills while you use it

[viral tendon]

It doesn't refil as quick as i use it

[west jackal]

Unless you spam bps 2 upgraded dd should keep up

Is it max speed upgrade?

[viral tendon]

Mb it's 600 sheets

[viral tendon]

No ofc not

[west jackal]

What speed

[viral tendon]

I'm not spending hours getting 30 mercer spheres

[west jackal]

(And do you actually supply the speed it uploads)

[jovial dew]

hey why cant i see any of my tools in my hand nor my legs when i slide?

[west jackal]

I.e. motors for me are only 15 a min so if I run out in crates it slows down

[viral tendon]

I'm using it faster than it uploads

[west jackal]

You aren't listening to me

[viral tendon]

Yeah i'm reading

[west jackal]

Add a second dd, this costs 1 sphere and doubles the upload speed

Bam. Faster

[viral tendon]

I alr do

[west jackal]

Add a 3rd

[viral tendon]

Ok ig

[west jackal]

Do you understand? Or get spheres to upgrade stack size

If it's that bad just spawn in spheres lol

[viral tendon]

Yeah i do, i need like 8 more spheres for it to be 120/m

And more stack size

That will take me some time

[west jackal]

Like i said if you really dont want to, you can use scim to spawn them in without disabling achivements

[viral tendon]

I really don't want to cheat

[dense mango]

wats scim

is it a command of sorts?

um?

[west jackal]

Scim is the map

You can right click a storage inventory and change the inventory it has.

Then you download the save from there

And upload

[dense mango]

oh so youre saying i can go into the files and spawn anything i want

[west jackal]

This is definitely cheating and ive only used this for a world that was close to creative

[viral tendon]

That migth potentially be a little unfair

[west jackal]

Yes

[dense mango]

so um

last ficsmas i didnt have a star due to a bug

[west jackal]

No. This game is meant to be played how you want. If someone wants to do that they can

[dense mango]

and i didnt know how to get any

so that woudve been useful..

[west jackal]

Yeah you can spawn that. Or there is a mod that makes ficsmas forever

[dense mango]

nah im good on mods

[west jackal]

I actually spawned a ornament from ficsmas because it glitched as well

[dense mango]

dylan, what recipe do you hate the most in satisfac

[west jackal]

Hm, standard or alt?

[dense mango]

i dont evcen know all the alternatives

standards fine

[west jackal]

If were talking standard, the hardest for me was automating turbo motors or pressure conversion. Its so big

But thats just as far as I got. My last playthrough was before tier 9