satisfactory

[honest patrol]

gotta love the golden helmet

[lost wagon]

I wish the frame pillars were skinnier

would look better in my machines than the metal pillar

[sour ledge]

aren't there multiple sizes?

[lost wagon]

don't think so, if there are I didn't find

[sour ledge]

there's a Big Frame Pillar and a Small Frame Pillar - unless you want a yet smaller one

[lost wagon]

yea, around the same size as the metal one

[sour ledge]

im confused; you want a yet-smaller one? the metal ones have two sizes to...

#screenshots message

i took a screenshot of both - the big metal+big frame on the left, small metal+small frame on the right?

don't get me wrong, 'small' is kinda relative, though, so if you want a yet smaller one i understand lol

[fathom shuttle]

Homing ammo needs a high speed connector lol

[sour ledge]

lol well of course it does! imagine if your bullet lagged and just randomly went for your kneecaps

you'd end up having to work as a guard

[lost wagon]

yes, the metal one fits inside the small frame one, I want them the same thickness

[tropic plover]

Question, I know the ratio of water extractors to coal powered plants is 3:8
Can I feed the outputof the 3 extractors into one pipe and then branch it off to the 8 coal plants or do i have to feed them differently?

[hard ivy]

How much water do 3 extractors produce and how much water can 1 pipe transport?

[atomic notch]

u gotta use mk2 pipes

[lost wagon]

you have to feed from both sides

then it works

[sour ledge]

yeah, either use an upgraded pipe or you gotta feed from both ends (so no pipe is trying to carry >300 at once and bottlenecking - instead you're getting 240 from one side and 120 from the other)

[atomic notch]

or just 4-1 and oc the extractors

[undone yarrow]

As long as there 2 generators between 1 of the extractors and the other 2

Otherwise underclock the extractors as 2 coal generators are the same width as 1 extractor

[atomic notch]

yeah with clock speeds u can do pretty much any ratio u want, only limiter is speed

[honest patrol]

ration nice

[atomic notch]

auto correct didnt detect it

[honest patrol]

got me hungry

[atomic notch]

found the lurker tho

[undone yarrow]

While a mk1 pipe only can take 300 min, if 2 generators take their water before reaching the other extractors you never have more than 300 water in any one part of the system

[honest void]

I'm making aluminum scrap in a refinery, and I linked the water output back to the input but the water doesn't empty quickly enough and the refinery keeps idling. How can I solve that?

[undone yarrow]

You have to use the right joint for the feed water

[stark solar]

Don't link the water output to the input, instead turn it into concrete and sink it.

[silver pollen]

use valves

[stark solar]

Far simpler design not to reuse water.

[undone yarrow]

Basically have the extractors water pipe higher than the refinery output pipe

[honest void]

Will try some of these ideas, thank you

[undone yarrow]

#design-and-architecture message

[lost wagon]

just badlands chug the water

[stark solar]

For my idea, use the wet concrete alt recipe

[undone yarrow]

Wet concrete or put it into making something with oil/pure copper/steamed copper sheets

[hard ivy]

The best solution is to reuse the water, but with a separate set of alumina refineries. Do not mix the 2 sources of water

[stark solar]

No loops in design = entire class of problems just doesn't happen

[silver pollen]

Even on my longest save file (800+ hours) i never had a single issue with water overflow since valves introduction, its really underrated device to deal with fluids

[stark solar]

Water's cheap. Why reuse it?

[silver pollen]

Efficiency

[undone yarrow]

Why waste limestone when you can use the water for something elsse you'll need

[shell trench]

i am having very bad time with water, anyone know how to fix it? I have 2 producers but one doesn't actually produce

[ripe anvil]

Note with valves and working with pipes in general

[stark solar]

Limestone's only useful to make concrete anyhow

So if you have a use for that concrete, save it rather than sink it, just make sure it never backs up

[ripe anvil]

You want fully pressurized pipes to prevent backflow, sloshing, flow, etc

[undone yarrow]

Otherwise Instant scrap has the upside of the waste water and sulfuric acid make a closed loop (assuming file loading doesn't drain it)

[ivory condor]

well the one problem with aluminum production, the production have water byproduct, and you have to do something with that, otherwise production stops.

[stark solar]

Slecht: That's why you can turn it into concrete instead.

[honest void]

Sadly the nearest limestone node is 1km aways, pretty annoying

[stark solar]

Ah, that's annoying. I'd still cart it over, but that's me.

[lost wagon]

truck it

[undone yarrow]

Pure iron, pure quartz, pure copper, anything with oil

[ripe anvil]

Use a vertical pipe intersection and have the waste water be inserted from above

[honest void]

No oil either around here xD

[ripe anvil]

Remember gravity is a thing that exists for fluids

[ivory condor]

thats only viable if your making concrete in the same plant your making the aluminum in

[honest void]

Sorry but I didn't understand 😅

[undone yarrow]

Wet concretes main values are that it has high water usage per machine and the output is something that wont be missed if sunk

[stark solar]

Slecht: Or just sink the generated concrete, for the sake of simplicity

[ripe anvil]

You know how pipe intersections have 4 attachment points? Take that but make it so 2 of the points are up and down instead of the sides

[honest patrol]

it is me or the snail seem to be bigger

[ripe anvil]

Fluids don't like moving up and like to move down due to gravity

[honest void]

Do I have to elevate the refineries or anything like that ?

[ivory condor]

While I would agree, sometimes that option isnt viable, especially if limestone is far away

[honest void]

Oh wait I think I got it

[ripe anvil]

Normally you wouldn't think about gravity in a game where you can make floating skyboxes with no supports

But fluids care about it and you can use it to your advantage

[honest void]

I'm struggling to place the junction the right way

[ivory condor]

Well you can force fluids not to care about it to, via making water towers and bypassing headlift and pumps

[ripe anvil]

Place it onto a pre-existing pipe and you'll be able to change it's angle

[ivory condor]

headlift is actually a illusion, much like gravity in this case, why I think we actually live in a simulation

It's all the mind of Ada, we pioneers are hooked up to pods like in the matrix👀

[honest void]

Smart

But now it won't let me place a pipe on top

[ripe anvil]

It should assuming the intersection is there?

[honest void]

I probably misunderstood something, will send my current setup in #screenshots shortly

Done

Oh my bad, I was in 2d mode...

My brain can't handle how that works
The same amount of water is still reinserted at the same rate but just with some delay because the pipe has to fill up
I don't understand why it now works

But thank you a lot

[undone yarrow]

Supposedly vertically places junctions actually have priority

[fossil zinc]

my train is glowing red but its not showing any warnings, did it get possessed?

[ivory condor]

yes call the ghost busters asap

[fossil zinc]

you got it 🫡

[honest void]

I think this happens when it is full, not 100% sure though

Happenend to me yesterday too

[fossil zinc]

i placed a crucifix infront of it

[honest void]

😂

[ivory condor]

I haven't seen any of my trains glowing red personally👀

[fossil zinc]

i mean thats kinda what i want, so much oil it physically cannot run out

i told it that it can leave after 5 minutes now

[honest void]

How the hell is my consumption higher than my max consumption??

[fossil zinc]

batteries?

[honest void]

What?

[fossil zinc]

do you have any batteries?

[hard ivy]

Depends by how much

[honest void]

• 80MW from 200MW max

[honest void]

You mean power shards?

[hard ivy]

Sounds like a train

Or hoverpack

[honest void]

Not at all, it's my aluminum factory

[honest void]

Oh

[fossil zinc]

no.. batteries

[onyx fern]

Can Satisfactory Tools not calculate fuel? I'm trying to see how much Turbofuel I can make from 120 oil, but it won't give me anything, it just says it can't calculate any result.

[fossil zinc]

"power storage" as the game calls it

[honest void]

Aaaaah okay I see

[hard ivy]

Turbofuel is an alt

[fossil zinc]

its an alternate recipe, select it in the ui

[honest void]

But the problem infact was hoverpack, didn't think about that

[fossil zinc]

my train isnt leaving after 5 minutes

[hard ivy]

People who do not immediately enable all recipes in Tools frankly baffle me

[fossil zinc]

i bit my train and now its going

still possessed tho

this wont get annoying at all :)

[ivory condor]

Don't worry just tell you all these red glowing trains is normal👀

[fossil zinc]

its been cured!!

how long will it last? we will never know

[ivory condor]

its fascinating because I have yet to see red glowing trains even once hmmm

[fossil zinc]

maybe the trains are homophobe?

[onyx fern]

I still can't calculate it. I enabled all recipes, but then the production manager used recipies I don't have, which is why I didn't enable them by default.

[fossil zinc]

the server is inhabited by 2 queer people

[onyx fern]

I told it to maximize Turbofuel, and then selected Turbofuel as an alternate recipe, like you said, and gave it the input of the material I have available, but it still says it can't?

[fossil zinc]

how much tf are you trying to make

[cyan garnet]

create a share link and share it here

[onyx fern]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=wyhfnKpK2kwQniKi2FzO

[onyx fern]

I don't know, that's exactly what I want to figure out. I want to know how much I can make and how many generators I can fuel with the resources I have available.

[cyan garnet]

you selected recipes you don't have?

[hard ivy]

Compacted coal is an alt too

[cyan garnet]

yes, at a minimum you have to enable compacted coal and turbofuel alt recipes

[onyx fern]

Ah, fuck. That was the problem. Yeah that's my bad lol

[cyan garnet]

with that fixed and unselecting the other alts, it spits out 66.6666 turbofuel for 120 oil and 53 each coal+sulfur

you could extend this a lot further e.g. with diluted fuel and heavy oil residue, if you have those alts

or you could just do diluted fuel and skip turbo altogether. just requires water instead of coal and sulfur

[onyx fern]

I do have heavy oil residue, but unfortunately I haven't got lucky enough to get diluted fuel. Though I've heard before that apparently it's a super good recipe.

So I'm stuck with turbofuel for now. I don't really need to be doing this, but I figured why not, especially if it can make the jetpack last a little longer

[lost wagon]

to make "underground belts" you use the lift floor hole or a different floor hole?

[cyan garnet]

what phase are you in? do you have packagers and/or blenders unlocked?

[cyan garnet]

liquid biofuel is a better jetpack fuel, tbqh

chances are you've got a bunch of biofuel laying around from pre-coal power that you can easily convert to liquid and package up. you can sloop the production too for bonkers quantities, plenty to last you to the end game

[onyx fern]

Is it really lol? I didn't want to have to manually keep grabbing leaves and stuff, but that's interesting. And I'm in Phase 3, working on completing it. I do have packagers, but no blenders

[cyan garnet]

!wikisearch jetpack

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=jetpack

[undone yarrow]

ITs more stuff you'd pick up from clearing away debris

[onyx fern]

I don't have any. I got off biofuel as quick as possible, and while I was on it I just manually fed most of it

[atomic notch]

i still got biofuel gens on lol

[onyx fern]

Ah, that could work too. Though I try not to clear debris too often. Not unless I absolutely need to

[cyan garnet]

sloop your constructor for leaves+wood -> biomass, sloop again to biofuel, sloop again in the refinery to liquid biofuel, (you can't sloop packagers). you'll have plenty from a very modest amount of collection

[atomic notch]

you hug em we cut em

[cyan garnet]

btw you can roll the diluted packaged fuel alt with the packagers milestone unlocked. the diluted fuel requires blenders but they are functionally identical

[bitter lodge]

finally got the hoverpack. this thing is 100x better when building

[cyan garnet]

FWIW, adding HOR+diluted packaged fuel to your production plan nets you 150 turbofuel instead of 66 - and uses up all the coal and sulfur input and only half the oil

[onyx fern]

Shit, alright. Guess I'll get to work on this lol! Gotta go collect some sloops and biomass, but seems like it's really worth it.

[cyan garnet]

you can just reuse the same single constructor, load up the sloop, and then change the recipe

[onyx fern]

Though the intention of building a small turbofuel plant was to add more power to the grid, with the added benefit of packaging some on the side.

[atomic notch]

im makin like 2250mw from my bio burners

[cyan garnet]

I keep one constructor near my hub w/ a sloop in it for random processing of stuff like slugs->shards, remains->protein, protein->dna capsules, etc

[bitter lodge]

is turbofuel a hard process?

[atomic notch]

no

its like basic p3 stuff

[bitter lodge]

it requires compacted coal though?

[dense violet]

it generally requires most logistics because the items you need for it aren't near each other for the most part. I think there's like 1 spot on the map where it's close

otherwise, a good Heavy oil residue -> diluted fuel set up is very useful and will do you almost as well

[lime ermine]

Compacted coal isn't hard to make

[cyan garnet]

yeah, given the choice between doing diluted fuel, versus turbo, I would go diluted all the way. only requires oil+water which are easy to find next to each other

no need to source coal and sulfur

[onyx fern]

The west beaches are where I'm doing it, at least until I get diluted fuel. I planned on using a train to import coal and sulfur and making everything on the spot.

[bitter lodge]

ohh alrighty

[cyan garnet]

it's not the difficulty of the recipe, its the difficulty of the logistics

[bitter lodge]

still unlocking it, so kind of guessing what it takes

[dense violet]

I'd just get packaged diluted fuel now, save yourself a ton of work

[atomic notch]

not really difficult tho like what

[bitter lodge]

since I just got my mk5 belts, I am thinking of making a mega factory now. Like an area where I produce everything :>

[atomic notch]

oh no a couple trains

[onyx fern]

Alright, yeah. But how? Just farm hard drives for a while?

[dense violet]

they get messy very quick, but up to you

[bitter lodge]

right now everything is independent

[cyan garnet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=ljzR0u9QshAcd4BVwFyT
300 crude (a single normal oil node) -> 800 Fuel which nets you 10 GW

[atomic notch]

i got one of those and yeah its messy

[bitter lodge]

lowkey don't want a belt of like 4 things across the map just for the sake of filling an assembler

[bitter lodge]

thank you, but I don't need power.

[atomic notch]

kinda need it for the dd tho

[dense violet]

yup. Building a factory like that without a clear end goal and plan the whole way just gets messy

[bitter lodge]

I wanna upscale everything

[onyx fern]

Why would I go for packaged diluted over regular? The wiki says regular diluted is 10% more efficient. Or are you just saying do whichever I get first and stick with it?

[bitter lodge]

all my independent factories are kind of....bad

OH

[onyx fern]

Oh wait, don't have Blenders lol. Nvm

[bitter lodge]

I could make a factory that produces 100/min of nearly everything :D

[undone yarrow]

Because Packaged is available when Oil is

Normal isn't avaible until deep t8 :P

[bitter lodge]

that would be a fun challenge

[dense violet]

treat tiers 1-9 like a good long tutorial. You learn what you need, and at the end, you can build your own projects from scratch 🙂

don't worry about them too much

[atomic notch]

i got a steel factory i havent even tapped into yet💀

[cyan garnet]

packaged is available in phase 3, non-packaged requires blenders which is phase 4

[onyx fern]

Yep, thank you

[cyan garnet]

the amount of fuel output relative to oil and water input is the same

[dense violet]

packaged diluted takes a tiny bit more power. Only real difference

[bitter lodge]

still gotta finish 7 x)

[onyx fern]

Alright, guess it's adventuring time

[dense violet]

part 7 of the tutorial 😄 Just keep building. You'll get there. Then you can decide what your own goals are

[undone yarrow]

its like... 5? MWs per 60 fuel made or something different in blender favor

[bitter lodge]

my goal is one big factory

[undone yarrow]

RIP your PC

[atomic notch]

tbh ur right cant plan if you dont know what the finish line looks like

[dense violet]

sure, but you're working to finish the tiers. That's not your own project

[bitter lodge]

I don't gotta rush completing phases?

[undone yarrow]

Only to make that jerk ADA happy so she can leave you for someone else

[bitter lodge]

right now. my iron, steel, oil, and aluminmum factories produce pretty low amounts of each item

I wanna make 100/min of all of them :>

what for?

[undone yarrow]

it depends on the item, some specifically cant even using everything on the map

[bitter lodge]

those are off for me

so idc about achievements

[undone yarrow]

(IE max copper without converters caps at like 77? nuclear pasta a minute)

[dense violet]

well with aluminium I'd probably just use 1 or 2 nodes to make aluminium

and make the iron and steel you need whne you need a new part 🙂

[bitter lodge]

but like what if it was all made in a single factory?

that be cool

[dense violet]

you could do that sure

[bitter lodge]

each floor can be its own thing. iron, steel, oil, alum, etc.

[dense violet]

just build as normal

[atomic notch]

thats literally what im doin in my current save

[bitter lodge]

I have no achievements possible

[atomic notch]

got tons of trains comin in

[bitter lodge]

see its sounds fun!

[atomic notch]

boutta start on nuclear pasta

[bitter lodge]

OH THAT BE SMART

Train in the resources :D then the resources get belted to the floors they are needed on. hell ya

[atomic notch]

honeslt i only got 2 floors

all the trains on top then theres like a 15 foundation gap where everything else is

since i do push pull trains i needed the space lol

[lime ermine]

Wait until you need 20/min like me :(

You won't be excited

[atomic notch]

yeah its in the plans

rn is just to get p4 done and get some stored

[bitter lodge]

why do you need 20/min?

[lime ermine]

Ficsonium

[atomic notch]

yeah

[lime ermine]

Singularity cells to be exact

[bitter lodge]

so is the wiki like not updated?

cause it says pasta isn't used to craft anything

[atomic notch]

gotta get portals for factory traversal

[lime ermine]

It's there

Use the wiki.gg

[bitter lodge]

oh ya, different wiki

I see. how interesting

[fathom shuttle]

Can you buy turbo motors from the shop?

[lost wagon]

oh no I learned the forbidden knowledge of underground belts clipping everywhere and hidding them with foundations

[undone yarrow]

You can buy everything not labeled space elevator part (and I think nuclear pasta)

[fathom shuttle]

Oh nice

[undone yarrow]

But ticket costs grow exponentially

[fathom shuttle]

I panicked a little because I needed them for mk3 miners

[undone yarrow]

so if you ever want to buy all the trophies...

[hard ivy]

The cost you mean

[hard ivy]

You can just automate them and upgrade the miners later

[fathom shuttle]

I’m a long way off. Only need enough for like 5 mk3 miners so it’s not a problem

[viral tendon]

#screenshots message Am i ready for my first fight with hog?

[fathom shuttle]

And I want to build my factory for full mk5 speed so I don’t have to go back and redo everything

[undone yarrow]

(theres a mk6 belt)

[bitter lodge]

so this is where I would like some input.
To make radio control units (I have no alt recipes for this) I need alumin casing, crystal osicllator, and computers. Which all 3 are made in 3 seperate factories a good distant apart from each other.
is it better to make an entirely new factory for these things or just transport them to a different spot to have this crafted?

[hard ivy]

You can still build it with mk3 miners in mind but use mk2 until you get them? I'm literally doing exactly that with my current factory

[viral tendon]

How much per minute and when mk7

[undone yarrow]

1200

[viral tendon]

When mk7

[undone yarrow]

and currently no point as the big reason anyone cared was for miners

(though sloops means we might get a mk 3 pipe for something like nitro rocket fuel :P)

[cyan garnet]

Never, as far as we know

might be a mod that adds higher tier logistics idk

[viral tendon]

We already have mk2 pipes...?

Are we like deadass

[cyan garnet]

I think they meant mk3 and typo’d

[viral tendon]

Then change the message

@blazing swan Saw your screenshot, what the fuck

[blazing swan]

which one? slugs?

[honest void]

Are drones only for materials or can we ride them?

[viral tendon]

Yes

1. How are you so patient to not convery them instantly
2. How could one find so much purple ones

Also what's that final research on sluigs there's a part i don't have recipe for

[blazing swan]

yep just visited desert, it has millions of them. And I don't manually convert, because I'm using alien duplication

[abstract heron]

IDK @unborn gyro

[fathom shuttle]

Maybe idk, I haven’t unlocked mk3 miners yet

[true mulch]

you can stand on one but don't expect it to be a smooth ride

[quaint flax]

It's nice to see my machines working at %100

[viral tendon]

What's lien duplication

[honest void]

I think you'll then be able to craft power shards with other materials than slugs, unsure though

[cyan garnet]

You cannot ride drones

[fathom shuttle]

I want mk10 belts that do 10k/min

[viral tendon]

Alr

[cyan garnet]

Phase 5 has synthetic power shards

[viral tendon]

Are drones in satisfactory as good as in slime rancher 1(not 2 because they deleted them there)

[blazing swan]

somersloops

[honest void]

What? There's a phase 5?

[fathom shuttle]

Drones are good for places you only need one resource from

[viral tendon]

What

[cyan garnet]

…yes? Aka tier 9

[viral tendon]

Fym don't manually convert

[honest void]

Oooh okay

[onyx fern]

Is it difficult to set up a 2 way train akin to a tram? Or should I just add balloon loops to turn the train around at the end of the stations?

[cyan garnet]

Power shards are a recipe you can set in a constructor. Slug in, shards out

Add a Somersloop and you get double the shards

[dense violet]

just do 2 lanes. make your life easier

[viral tendon]

Ik i just didn't understand manually convert ty

[onyx fern]

Why would I do 2 lanes when I only need one? A balloon loop will turn the train around just fine, shouldn't it? That ensures they always enter the respective station the right way.

[cyan garnet]

Manually convert meaning, making power shards at the crafting bench

[dense violet]

because 2 lanes is a loop. Just a flat one. It lets a train not have to travel the whole entire loop as well

[bitter lodge]

on tools, does it not make anything if you list to many items at once?

[dense violet]

is it saying 'cannot make plan'?

[bitter lodge]

:< ya

I was trying to list roughly 30 items :<

[dense violet]

you don't have the resources or recipes for it

for example if you're making turbo fuel you need to check the trubo fuel recipe and compacted coal

[bitter lodge]

I had all alt recipes marked

[onyx fern]

It's not traveling the entire loop. That's what a balloon loop is for. I'm asking if I should be doing balloon loop or if I should make it like a tram. Though, to be honest, I don't know if it's even possible to make trains manually reverse directions.

[bitter lodge]

it was only like 1 of each item per min

[dense violet]

shre you plan link in #math-and-meta

[bitter lodge]

;-; I deleted the tab

[cyan garnet]

With blueprints and auto connect, it’s basically the same amount of work to build a two-lane rail as it is a one-lane, so might as well build two

[bitter lodge]

I was just like "fuck it. it brokey"

[dense violet]

it's not, you were probably just missing a small thing. If it happens again share the link

[bitter lodge]

for sure, but its a tomorrow thing. :> valorant for the rest of the night to take a break and plan next factory idea

[fathom shuttle]

Is there a better way to auto connect trains when you’re in the air?

Railroads*

[bitter lodge]

really liking the idea of upscaling my indepedent factories then training all the outputs to a central place. So if I need to make something that is being produced at a stand alone factory I can just make it there

[dense violet]

better than what?

[fathom shuttle]

Using blueprints, I need to nudge them far enough that I don’t get the rail too short message

[dense violet]

well I'm pretty sure I told you about the making one line of foundations to put pylons on a while back

that helps you keep it tidy

[true mulch]

Nope

[fathom shuttle]

Hmm it might be faster that way tbh

[onyx fern]

Okay, but why is two lanes better than either of these? #screenshots message

[dense violet]

there is a reason I recommend thigns

[dense violet]

the Train's super power is being able to use the same infrastructure for more routes you do.
one way rail kinda wastes the effort of all the infastructure

for only 1 train to ever use?

[onyx fern]

How so? And is it really that important if I'm only transporting small amounts?

I'm not building an insanely large infrastructure, at least not yet. I'm just trying to transport coal and sulfer to a specific location. I'd get using two lanes when I intend on having multiple trains, but I don't have multiple trains yet, and don't forsee any in this area

[lost wagon]

yes, EU has no colission enabled

[cyan garnet]

If you are only ever going point to point and never doing more than one train, then this is fine (or do bidi train and not even worry about those loops). But the moment you want to run more than one train? And have to deal w signals? Two lanes all the way

[fathom shuttle]

I’m currently using 5x3 blueprints to do build rails

[cyan garnet]

Same reason roads in the real world are generally two lanes (or multiples of 2) with dedicated direction of travel each way

[atomic notch]

just do push pull

simple and efficient

[dense violet]

if you think you'll never EVER EVER need trains going in that direction again, just put an engine on both ends facing each way and do 1 way rail

[onyx fern]

Absolutely agreed. I plan to use two lanes for most of my train transport, at least in the future. But my original question was in terms of 1 lane tracks, which is better to reverse the train? A 'tram' setup like the first picture, or the balloon loops like the second.

[atomic notch]

trains are pretty upgrade-able u should be able to just add what you need

[onyx fern]

I sincerely haven't found a use for trains yet, except for this one case. Because of this, I only wanted to build one railway that goes from point A to point B. I do not foresee new trains entering this area or using the resources on this railway.

But this is the exact answer I needed, I did not know you could put two engines on a train. That's kind of what I was asking.

Additionally, it's a pretty short trip, so I have no problem rebuilding the tiny length that it is.

[atomic notch]

thats what push pull is

[dense violet]

just build it that way. One at one end, the other at the other

[honest void]

How do I use another type of nobelisk with a detonator?

[dense violet]

hold R I think

[honest void]

Nope :/

Oh nwm, it worked after a few tries, thanks

[onyx fern]

Damn, that's what it was called lmao. I couldn't think of it so I just said 'tram' lmao

[cyan garnet]

It’s true. Here in America we all drive 8-ton murdermobiles and shoot anyone who looks at us funny

[atomic notch]

u can just make a big train yard

[lost wagon]

can you pick specific amount of stuff from the Dimensional Depot or just full stacks?

[atomic notch]

only if you put the specific amount in

[quaint flax]

Are dimentionals depot worth? and how does it work

[dense violet]

they cost basically nothing, and keep your inventory full of parts you feed into them

[leaden ether]

Infinate (sort of) storage for building materials.

[atomic notch]

its like icloud but for stuff

[dense violet]

I'm not a huge fan personally, but others are

[atomic notch]

run out of storage on ur phone put it in the cloud, thats how it work

[leaden ether]

I can't even imagine doing a large build without them. I can go through 6 containers of concrete in just a few minutes. I can;t imagine having to consantly going to pick up another bunch directly fromthe factory over and over ahain

[dense violet]

part of creating a decent travel network

or moving a train load of stuff to a big building project

[leaden ether]

Same with all the basic building materials, iron sheets, rods, cable, etc

[dense violet]

DDs are half way to creative build

[atomic notch]

getting like all the basic stuff automated and into the depos is so good

bein able to build unrestricted

[undone yarrow]

When does Quality of Life shave away to much challenge?

[dense violet]

that's pretty much it right?
All the alien stuff is kinda a soft creative mode.

[honest void]

Do drones have a max range?

[undone yarrow]

the map

[honest void]

Okay thanks 😂

[undone yarrow]

Maybe... On the one hand you still have to build everything that gets fed into them, but on the other it does remove the challenge of getting your supplies to the build site

IE how different the hard drive hunt without depot vs with depot is

without depot, what you brought is what you have, run out of ammo or ladders or inventory full? back to base.

With depot? stuff the rare mats and monster parts in it, never run out of ammo or movement tools, just keep goin until youre done

[dense violet]

that's the 'soft' part.

You have to 'unlock' having infinite parts always at hand by building a thing.

I think having a good transport system is important, but honestly it's also very easy to just build a short rail with a few cars if yo ureally want

[undone yarrow]

Thus the question of when does convenience remove challenge and when does challenge go from goal to chore... Depots do probably swing a bit to much towards remove challenge...

I'll personally still use em cuz I'm a lazy goober but...

[dense violet]

yeah, I'm glad there was a new tier, new parts and systems and resources to mix around is nice.
but duping, conversion, teleport. Meh

[cedar kestrel]

I imagine its already known that nitrogen is outputting without power right?

[dense violet]

Drones being able to use almost any fuel was very silly xD

[undone yarrow]

I do feel like drones having any fuel kinda makes batteries useless

[dense violet]

yeah, it really killed batteries

[undone yarrow]

jokingly: drones can use batteries or nuclear rods only

[leaden ether]

My only use for batteries was making RCUs or something...

[dense violet]

that would be kidna ok actually

[undone yarrow]

super computers

its an alternate super computer recipe that uses them

[dense violet]

batteries used to be super useful. No longer

[leaden ether]

Ah that was it yeah 🙂

[open tree]

So they fly around irradiation everything near them every loop?

[undone yarrow]

making the filters is cheap

but more so the power density of the item...

if batteries were a better fuel or something... I guess there could be some fun to be had in having a battery factory for that depending on how their cost compares to rocket fuel

[undone yarrow]

(and is another example of depot power, as long as 5/min per player are being depot'd you should never take radiation damage again)

[open tree]

If only you could use them directly from the depot without having a stack in inventory

Same with ammo

[dense violet]

takes 1/10th of a second to click some stacks in.

[undone yarrow]

though I suspect packaged turbo fuel made from the waste coal of rocket fuel is an alright source of fuel... would have to actually check /mins and such XD

at least rocket vs battery are both some aluminum and sulfur

and then maybe oil and copper if using classic battery

Batteries in inventory can run the hoverpack?

[onyx fern]

This will account for overflow, right? I'm producing ever so slightly more Heavy Oil Residue than I can use, and I'm this should allow all of the machines to stay full, while unloading any excess, right?#screenshots message

[undone yarrow]

2/3 an oil... 2.0833 copper ingots, 1.5 sulfur... and .4375 aluminum ingots per battery using classic battery per battery for 6000 mj

[honest void]

How do I edit the shortcuts bar?

[dense violet]

turn it to coke and sink it instead

[dense violet]

hover over an item, type a number

[latent prawn]

open the build menu, and mouse over items, when hovering, hit the hotkey to rebind

[onyx fern]

Oh, I was going to very slowly package it, but I suppose that works as well. You mean instead of the fluid buffer, right? I do still need the overflow system, I think

[dense violet]

instead of yes,
and no? just clock the coke machine exactly

[latent prawn]

also, protip: you have 10 hotbars that you can toggle btw with ctrl+scrollwheel

[undone yarrow]

using packaged nitro... tied on oil, 1.33 sulfur, 2/3 coal, 1 nitrogen gas and 1 aluminum ingot per... (with the compacted coal ignored)

[dense violet]

another pro tip:

when you're building an item, hold E, it'll bring up the radial menu of similar items
it means you don't need a number for every single foundation for example

[undone yarrow]

So... close enough to not really care...

[latent prawn]

yeah, that's very useful to access more items from your main hotbar quickly

[undone yarrow]

I think, because rocket fuel is 7,200 mw a pop its slightly better overall though... RIP batteries

[latent prawn]

I kinda feel like i favor using yellow fuel in drones when i can get away with it... anything else requires resources i'd rather use for other stuff. the fluid tanks for ion&rocket fuel kinda just kill ya, lol

[onyx fern]

God, that's way better lmao. Thanks

[dense violet]

just make sure you have a sink at the end.
sinking early coke is good for points

[gleaming pond]

hey yall can anyone tell me what to do to find my saves?

trying to put it into the interactive map

[leaden turret]

#faq

[undone yarrow]

Aye, Rocket and Ion being a gas means they need aluminum tanks.

[gleaming pond]

mb

[onyx fern]

I don't really need the points, I was dumb and unlocked everything early because I thought it would make the game more fun. it did, but still lol.

But that suggestion saved me so much stupid work lmao, that was way easier than what I was gonna try to do

[dense violet]

one of the biggest issues about unlocking everything is that the game is set up in steps for you to actually learn all the mechanics

and you have to do all the steps anyway to build up your infrastructure. You're erally just screwing your learning opportunities by doing so

because you learn how to manage new logistic issues step by step with the tiers

[elder river]

I just discoverd this discord. I was wondering... is there a convenient program that exists that lets you work out factory floor plans?

I love that I can get a tag from here, btw.

[undone yarrow]

Looks like I did math wrong and to match Joules

A classic battery needs: 2.5 copper ingots, 2.1 Aluminum Ingots, 1.8 Sulfur and .8 oil

Packaged nitro rocket fuel needs:, 1 aluminum ingot .5 oil, 1.33 sulfur, 1 nitrogen gas and .67 coal

[dense violet]

actually laying everything out building by building?
try it out in game. After you make the plan , you have the bonus of having it built mostly already

[dense violet]

if you want a number cruncher, this is the best planner https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[onyx fern]

I mean, I've still sunk everything I don't need because it's fun to have a ton of points, and they can be used to buy other things that are less important to automate, but honestly I kind of agree. It has been quite a bit more encouraging to be able to take breaks and build something fun with the parts you unlock, but I don't think I'll keep that trend up tbh

[elder river]

I don't want a number cruncher, I want a way to plan layouts.

Trouble is, the game doesn't run great on my computer, and tends to slow down pretty substantially if I'm in it too long.

Also, I'm hoping for a way I can just play around with it while I'm not in-game.

[frail sleet]

Modeller

[dense violet]

if you use google you can probably find a few. I haven't seen any that aren't really cumbersome

[onyx fern]

Additional question, if I have enough fuel to feed 17.5 fuel generators, what's the best way to go about setting those up? Do I merge all the pipes into 1 and then split it into 2 to feed 8.75 on either side?

[elder river]

modeller is a number cruncher, not a physical placement tool

[dense violet]

you can put down individual machines and splitters in it

just takes forever

but that's every 'layout' planner

[undone yarrow]

with mk 1 pipes? yeah pretty much

[elder river]

that also doesn't tell me how large of a platform I need.

[undone yarrow]

with mk 2 pipes? you'll probably have to be a lot more "feed from the top" happy and such

[onyx fern]

I have Mk2, but the total fluid I have is 131.25, so I don't really think I need Mk2

[elder river]

like, each machine is a different size. I want to work out if I can fit as many machines as I want to in a specific area.

[dense violet]

generally have 1 pipe going from point A to point B, make a manifold loop

[frail sleet]

I use modeller for that just with multiple nodes, but also a spreadsheet which has the machine sizes in it

[elder river]

alright.

[dense violet]

machine sizes are on the wiki
but again, you can use google. I've seen a few people post random things with layout planners

[spark mason]

can i trust satisfactory calculator on realism mode for complex factories?

[onyx fern]

Wait, I don't think I understand what you mean. This is what I was going to do, would it not work?#screenshots message

[dense violet]

define 'trust'

[spark mason]

most efficient

[sullen gull]

Based off of total map resource, yes

[dense violet]

they will technically 'work'
they are however garbage layouts

[spark mason]

in the way it picks alternate recipes and decides underclocking/overclocking

[dense violet]

technically? yes it could work. But making branching manifolds to feed fluids can sometimes be tricky

[dense violet]

that's also subjective. Most efficient with what resource in mind?

if it's just 1 step that's easy.
but with multiple steps you have to often choose which resource you want to be more 'efficient' iwth

[spark mason]

you see, satifactory tools planner refused to use stitched plates and caterium wires for smart plating factory

[onyx fern]

It's the first thing that came to mind, and made the most sense given I can feed 17.5 generators total, which kind of seems like a lot. Was the way you suggested better? Can you explain it a little more?

[dense violet]

then only give it that option. Don't have all recipes on. It has it's own resource weights

[hard ivy]

You can't trust it even for simple factories. And neither can you trust the default mode. The entire planner fucking sucks

[spark mason]

le'ts say i refuse to use any of the calculators, excel it is?

how do you guys do it

[hard ivy]

Satisfactory Tools

[ivory condor]

i use greenys tool, its pretty good

[dense violet]

I don't. I use tools and only select teh recipes I want

because again, every plan you make will probably want to be 'efficient' with different resources

[ivory condor]

right, why i use greenys tool so much for factory planning

[spark mason]

i see

[hard ivy]

I enable all, look at the plan, and disable the ones I don't vibe with

[elder river]

https://app.diagrams.net/
I found something that should work, if combined with a list of how big all the machines are.

[ivory condor]

exactly that works to, all depends on end goals, depends if that what greenys tool is the goal your reaching for, but you can adjust it via enabling/disabling recipes

[dense violet]

so like I said before, if you want the planner to use specific recipes, swap recipes out.

want caterium wire instead of wire?
turn off wire, select caterium wire

[lofty phoenix]

Where can I find sam ore?

[trim vine]

scan to find

[atomic notch]

Planners 🤮

[lofty phoenix]

Can't find any

[undone yarrow]

(and if we want to match Turbo Fuel using Turbo Blend: 3.07 Oil and 1.8 Sulfur = one packaged rocket fuel when it comes to vehicle fuel) and that includes making the packaging in all of these

[dense violet]

hidden away in difficult spots to see. You can use various online maps if you want spoilers

[leaden ether]

So it's safe/possible to dismantle mu hub and move it to a new location? (I know you can't make a second one)

[stark solar]

Yes, you can and should move your hub when it makes sense

[undone yarrow]

and just for fun: using just fuel its 4.89 oil

[stark solar]

Koala: SAM is often found in caves and occasionally other out-of-the-way places.

[undone yarrow]

Just 20 iron ore

[stark solar]

So, in the hub, there's an area that I think might be a kind of makeshift shower - the area just to the right of the bathroom wall. Not sure it is, but assuming the pioneer needs a shower, that seems like a possible place for it.

There's a wall divot that maybe water could come out of, and the ground is somewhat sunken, maybe to keep water in

Maybe the metal plate there could hold shower supplies.

[fathom shuttle]

Can nitrogen experience slosh?

[lime ermine]

Nope

[stark solar]

I don't think gasses slosh

[lime ermine]

It's a gas

[fathom shuttle]

I meant in game slosh not irl

[stark solar]

I don't think gasses slosh in-game

[trim vine]

Short answer is no, but if you leave gas in a pipe and it doesnt have flow (no inputs going in and not being sucked in by a machine) it will "slosh" as it attempts to equalize in the pipe

[lofty phoenix]

1 miner mk2 can support how many smelter to work at the same time

[trim vine]

Whats the production rate?

[solemn glacier]

on a normal, for ore, i think its 4

[stark solar]

Koala: Depends on node purity and clocking. Go find a calculator for that.

[lofty phoenix]

120 pm

[trim vine]

and whats the consumption rate on a smelter?

[fathom shuttle]

So in practice it won’t slosh

[trim vine]

Correct, gas has less love languages to learn than liquids do

[fathom shuttle]

Press n and see how much the ore you’re smelting takes

[lofty phoenix]

I'm not playing currently

[trim vine]

Well, iron, copper, or caterium?

[lofty phoenix]

I inserted 3 shard in it

Iron

[trim vine]

you inserted 3 shards and its spitting out 120?

[lofty phoenix]

Miner mk2 spiting 120 pm

[trim vine]

120 is default on a normal node

[trim vine]

and 200% on an impure node at 2 shards

[trim vine]

Also, iron smelts at 30pm

I'll leave you to figure out how many smelters you need

[honest patrol]

lol running away from big hog dosent work anymore XD he almost killed me got stuck on my workshop and i cheese kill it before it killed me by teleportation on my butt

[stark solar]

Generally you want to jump over hogs when they charge. More reliable.

[sullen cave]

is he faster than blade runners now?

[honest patrol]

i am at the start i did not even have berry yet

[stark solar]

Oh, then do your utmost not to get near any big hogs that early.

[honest patrol]

the hog was omiwa shindeiru me

[stark solar]

Hop on a rock, avoid areas they are, etc etc

[honest patrol]

i survive with 1/4 of one bar hp

[fallen moss]

Hey chat real quick question for the satisfactory calculator, is there a way to stop it from using a miner mark 3 for the production planner?

[stark solar]

Doshite anata-wa nihongo hanashite?

For some reason I thought we were speaking English.

[honest patrol]

its a meme sorry

[fathom shuttle]

Mk3 miners unlocked lets goo

[honest patrol]

everybody know that lol

[stark solar]

Ah. Hm. Wasn't aware clumsy Japanese phrases were a meme nowadays.

Glad I took some Japanese in high school decades ago though.

[honest patrol]

you use this joke when enemy teleport beind you and kill you

[fathom shuttle]

Turbo motors need 8 tickets

Crazy

[stark solar]

That's pretty cheap

[timid rune]

that's pretty good

[stark solar]

Turbo motors are complex parts.

[timid rune]

time to build a turbo motor line

[echo ice]

I just got the 10 hour message maybe I should worry

[stark solar]

After a ten hour massage you might be too relaxed to walk

[honest patrol]

just got the 4h one i think

[timid rune]

hmm time to convert my motor plant to steel rotor methinks

10 extra iron/min for significant machine savings

[undone yarrow]

Yay!

[fathom shuttle]

Thank god I didn’t sink the turbo motors I found from hard drives, I have 19!

[stark solar]

Oh yeah, never sink stuff like that :)

Sink stuff you have tons of that you can easily replace

[undone yarrow]

Sink everything, especially the tickets

[fallen moss]

Does anyone have experience with the satisfactory calculator?

[undone yarrow]

which one?

[fallen moss]

The production planner specifically

[fathom shuttle]

Use satisfactory tools or modeler

[undone yarrow]

whats the question if it's NOT the one on the map website?

[fallen moss]

How to stop it from using miner mark 3

[honest patrol]

there was a button before i check earlier and did not found it

[fallen moss]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

[fathom shuttle]

Use tools

[fallen moss]

Oh ok

[dawn frost]

hey for some reason every time i launche the game, FSR gets set back from no downscaling to balanced. is this a known issue? any way i can fix it?

[dense violet]

tools just tells you to use X amount of resources. Then it's up to you to find a spot you can mine it from

[undone yarrow]

The miner type doesnt matter, just use more of the lower tier until you have mk3 miners and mk6 belts

[frail sleet]

When you drag the resolution scaling bar, the value that you set isn't saved properly. If you use the left/right buttons on the resolution scale until it says no downscaling, that should stick

[wild kindle]

do smelters and constructors mark 2 exist and if not is there a mod for them

[stark solar]

They do not exist.

[wild kindle]

ok thanks

[stark solar]

I think the intent is you overclock and sloop them, and if that's not enough you parallelise them

[wild kindle]

yeah i parallelize them but as miners mine faster and faster its hard to keep up

[stark solar]

Just parallelise them further.

You have blueprints and better belts and smarter splitters/mergers/etc at your disposal

Great tools to help you solve this problem

[leaden ether]

Heh yeah pretty soon you'll be putting out 40 then 75, then 98 constructors just making one item 😄 (Okaythat's like self imposed end game stuff but...)

[stark solar]

A standard blueprint for 4 smelters after your miner will help, with all the splitters and mergers all set up nicely for you

Or whatever the number. All doable.

[boreal musk]

its called building more smelter/constructor and overclocking them

[stark solar]

There's some value in saving overclocking the smalters for when you're overclocking the miners though; can scale both sides up evenly.

Meaning: make enough so the base clock rate does the right thing

[undone yarrow]

Overclocking pros: less buildings, saves time and nicer on your PC

Overclocking cons: costs more power than building the same amount of buildings un overcloked

[dense violet]

overclocking is the next 'mk'

[stark solar]

I think parallelism is the next mark, actually. Because you'll eventually overclock your miners too

[bitter lodge]

bonus con. power shards a limited resource until you can produce them at end game

[stark solar]

And if you start with parallelism to meet the base rate, you can scale miners with buildings.

Also, power shards are quite plentiful. They're finite but you can get a lot of them

[boreal musk]

theres more than 5k powershards worth of slugs in the entire map, enough for everything until you reach endgame

[bitter lodge]

My point was "limited"

not how much.

[dense violet]

effectively not though. You're extremely unlikely to ever come close to need more than 5000k before yo ucan make them

[boreal musk]

it practically count as unlimited already, cuz you are not going to use that much unless you build insanely big before reaching phase 5

[fathom shuttle]

You can stack them on top of each other

[timid root]

silly billy

[trim vine]

assuming you somersloop them early ❤️

[undone yarrow]

glances at ImKibitz

[bitter lodge]

ya true LMAO

That mofo really did basically burn through them all

[boreal musk]

it wouldve been easier for him to just handfed space part solely to automate shards and unlock mk6

hes basically making it hard by trying to upgrade all the logistic into mk6 later, which will cause a problem sooner

[atomic notch]

na u gotta think hes playin for profit cant half ass shit like u do

[undone yarrow]

Oh, he is going to HATE himself when it comes to that

[bitter lodge]

I feel like kibitz plans things really well

[boreal musk]

have you ever seen his nuclear meltdown

[undone yarrow]

I'm more curious on how he's gonna produce enough crap if he intends to make ficsonium out of seemingly true max nuclear

Since he's using Pressure Cubes on Plutonium Sinking those is out

[bitter lodge]

Just curious to see how its all gonna work in the end

[boreal musk]

hes going to need most of the sam in the map to make the ficsonium with all those plutonium waste

[bitter lodge]

dude just spent 18k iron ingots on pipes. Which was wild but awesome. I love the way his base is designed as well

[undone yarrow]

At least he'll have plenty of coal for Time Crystals

[dense violet]

iron pipe recipe?

[bitter lodge]

yuuupppp

[undone yarrow]

Yeah, Heavy frames made of Iron Pipe

[dense violet]

yeahhhh... it's really not hard to use solid steel and basic recipe.

[bitter lodge]

I love how he doesn't play for like max efficient either

cause when he turned the raw iron into actual ingots. Ya he could of done the best recipe on repeat :> but nope he chose to make a funky blueprint using all the different ways, and it was a great design

[undone yarrow]

Like I said, I'm guessing its to free up as much coal as possible for time crystals since oh boy do you need a lot of those for the dark matter crystals, espeically since so little sam left after making all the trigons

Not using pure/limestone iron is whatever, but the refusal to use wet concrete and then panic about not having enough concrete hurt

[bitter lodge]

I never seen past like..tier 6?

or whatever tier unlocks aluminium so I am so lost as to what is past this, and what yall need to plan for

[boreal musk]

i do hope we get more alts for tier 9 for more efficient sam cost

[dense violet]

don't pre plan. You'll just end up wasting effort

[undone yarrow]

Aye, if they wont change existing (mainly dark ion)... having some kind of alts for some of the other problem children recipes would be nice

[fathom shuttle]

Thank god I learned early on, I have like 400 powershards now and I don’t know what to do with them at this point

[undone yarrow]

especially as, other than the diamond and dark matter crystals, there are so few t9 alts

[trim vine]

I just blew through about 2k or so

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll probably start overclocking things more aggressively

[trim vine]

Fuel gennies, before you ask

[undone yarrow]

Makes sense

[fathom shuttle]

Yea you told me about it, it was like 500GW right?

[undone yarrow]

If there was anything you could burn the entire worlds supply on, it'd be overclocking a rocket fuel power plant

[trim vine]

we are steady at around 650 or so, I believe

[trim vine]

its spicy, and there are still a couple of coal plants in the mix that I havent tore down yet

[undone yarrow]

So tied with max uranium

Battery (the item) sadness continues: why not give it a niche back by letting it be as faster than rocket fuel instead of tied while slower than ionized, uranium and plutonium?

[west jackal]

does a pipeline junction evenly split between 2 pipes? and in addition are 600 pipes safe to use at full capacity for distance?

[dense violet]

technically yes, but practically you'll want flooded pipes so it'll just avg out the flow

and depends what you mean by distance, usually the issue with long distance pipes is not getting headlift right

[west jackal]

im not worried about headlift. but 600/min pipes used to be weird and i wanted it verified that they were fine now

its going up like 2 meters, its fine for headlift

[ivory condor]

Fine, no idea, i don't do distance with pipes to avoid unnecessary fluid calculations, instead use trains to move fluid over distance

[west jackal]

well its not that far

[ivory condor]

Probably fine though, even if your cpu isnt going to like it

[west jackal]

its only like 500m or something

[ivory condor]

oh i was thinking kms distance lol

[atomic notch]

500? thats like across the factory

[dense violet]

600 pipes are 'weird' because people built them poorly

[ivory condor]

yeah i didnt know it was only 500m, thats basically nothing

[dense violet]

don't build them poorly and they'll be fine

[west jackal]

well i usually just avoid full pipes 🤷‍♂️

[dense violet]

even 500 or 400 pipes can have issues if built poorly. Just more leeway

[atomic notch]

its all comes down to skill tho

[west jackal]

wdym by built poorly?

[ivory condor]

i know i had issues in the past even with full 600m3 pipes, not sure if some of those issues still happen

[west jackal]

assyme im a noob

[dense violet]

splitting manifolds over multiple floors, feeding from below, having elevation changes within the manifold, having way too many machines down a manifold

[ivory condor]

but that was when pipes were being hit with multiple issues such as 5m3 buffer bug that kept on emptying out pipes more than normal, etc....

[west jackal]

too many on manifold?

[dense violet]

there's things you can do that are more stable
there's things you can do that are less stable

[dense violet]

yeah, sometimes even if you loop a manifold it can't manage the back flow.

[west jackal]

is 20 machines too many? i mean they are 30/min and i have a 600m pipe that splits and then it feeds both ends of the machines

[dense violet]

I've seen that happen with like 25 refineries down 1 side of a manifold

[atomic notch]

fuckin daily pipe appreciation ig

[dense violet]

have 10 on each side, fed by the same juntion, and it would likely be more stable

[atomic notch]

same shit different day

[west jackal]

so basically dont connect in the middle?

[dense violet]

not sure what you mean by that

[ivory condor]

isnt that why you need to loop manifolds, thats why i always do and it always is stable for me

[dense violet]

for which part?

[west jackal]

this would prevent the flows from "clashing"

[dense violet]

pop over to #math-and-meta and do a sketch I don't know what you mean

[atomic notch]

you guys are overthinking it just do 1-1 for pipes

[ivory condor]

loop the pipes i mean, loop both ends with the sending and receiving pipes

[atomic notch]

as much as posible at least

the more shit u add on the more jank it gets

[dense violet]

well this can help in a lot of situations. But it doesn't fix everything #1383877148778958858 message

[ivory condor]

oh that, yeah i do that but slightly different

i loop the pipe ends with where im sending, because i always had issues in the past doing them other ways

but apu do what is stable for you, i just typically loop the pipes because thats what has worked for me

[dense violet]

you likely had some other issues going on with it and the rebuilding the whole thing made it more stable

[west jackal]

wdym by sketch>

[ivory condor]

hmmm i dont know, that was back when there was alot of bugs with pipes, so its possible your solution is more stable

but i remember trying to do that with 1.0 and still had problems that only looping solved still, so i dont know if 1.1 could somehow fix some of that

[dense violet]

use paint to make a sketch

[dense violet]

the only bug with pipes was a fluid deletion issue that got fixed round u6 or u7 I think

other than that it's mostly been people not using pipes properly

[ivory condor]

alot of the problems also raised in situation at the pipes limit aka 600m3, this is particular is where i needed to loop the pipe on both ends to get proper supply at the end, its similar to what your doing still though

[ivory condor]

most of it is thats true, i know i got hit by those nasty bugs pretty bad in the past to, that and pipe floo holes, etc killing headlift, which was a pain to deal with to, etc

[dense violet]

oh the floor hole thing, eh, it was an aesthetic issue you could avoid very easily.

[ivory condor]

I remember in the past i designed my pipes with 590m3 in mind instead, mainly to work around those issues

[dense violet]

eh, even 590s will have issues. Running lower than 600 just gives you more leeway in your layout

[ivory condor]

Wait are we talking about then or now?

[dense violet]

still now

and then really

the lower your throughput you have in your pipes, ime, the more flex you have in your pipe layouts.
the closer you run to 600 the more strict you have to be

[ivory crest]

[ivory condor]

hmmm will I'm looping pipes, 600m3 seems fine for now, but if it isn't I can always rework it🙃

[dense violet]

oh yeah, running 600s are totally doble. just depends how careful you are.

I run 600s while bottom feeding which is tricky. Just gotta be real careful about it

[ivory condor]

But your right it does seem like the closer you are to the pipe limits, the more strict you have to be in design to keep it stable

Me thinking to myself, hopefully I don't have to rework these 600m3 pipes

[boreal musk]

im mostly working with 400-500 so i have leeway for it

[trim vine]

Pioneers always want more

[dense violet]

yeah it's not a bad way for it.
my bottom feeding requires really tight piping though so might as well run them as high as convenient

[west jackal]

thats why im using DPF

[fathom shuttle]

My starter coal plants are still there pumping power lol, I’ll probably tear them down because I need the water

[trim vine]

Needing water is crazy work, there's water everywhere

[fathom shuttle]

There is a small take that feeds it and my wet concrete refineries and I’m too lazy to pipe water from farther away lol

[west jackal]

man i was about to say something like that

why does dismantling make my game freeze

i have no performance issues, however whenever i dismantle soemthing it freezes, if its a mass dismantle the freeze is worse

(the more i dismantle at once the worse it is)

[frail sleet]

Grassy plains is weirdly the biome with the least water in the game, mostly because the whole southern side of it is just a void hole.

Even the Deserts have water in relative abundance

there's ocean to the west of grassy though, and a really nice cluster of resource nodes next to it.

[inner pollen]

Is it possible to have someone join me rq and help me with the power. Its not working for me and is ver frustrating

[dense violet]

post some images ina #1038092680493801533 post, over head ones

[inner pollen]

I rather someone show me what to do because i learn that way not by being told what to do

[dense violet]

not many people are willing to do that and it's a quiet part of the day.

it's probably something very very simple

[reef basin]

we'd rather not have to launch the game and join random person just to figure out we can't help

[dense violet]

or just point to one thing to change

[inner pollen]

My pump isnt pumping water fast enough for my coal mines and i have 4 pumps and 7 coal machines

[dense violet]

very common beginner mistake is going over the throughput of hte pipe

[cursive crane]

All pumps do is increase the height that water can go. Nothing to do with speed
Unless you mean water extractors

[dense violet]

how much water are you putting into 1 pipe?
how much can it handle?

[west jackal]

you need 3 extractors for 8 machines, 2 on one end, and 1 on the other. make sure that you dont have headlift over 10m without a pump

[reef basin]

*extractors

you need 0 pumps

[west jackal]

oml my b

[reef basin]

(also don't spoonfeed the answers please 😛 )

[dense violet]

I'm asking them

[inner pollen]

Okay im going to find a server meant to help newbies not 1 that just tells them they are wrong with no help

[west jackal]

tf?

[reef basin]

we're asking you about your setup

[west jackal]

oh, sorry

[inner pollen]

I told you my setup

[dense violet]

this probably will fix your problem

"how much water are you putting into 1 pipe?
how much can it handle?"

[reef basin]

did you answer the questions cobalt asked above?

[cursive crane]

Theres an area meant for help. You arent even using it
#1038092680493801533

[inner pollen]

Some people cant learn from you telling them what to do

[reef basin]

we didn't yet tell you anything to do

[dense violet]

pls... pls just answer the question. >.<

[inner pollen]

You did

[reef basin]

what?

[west jackal]

they were trying to lead you, i told you, dont get snippy with greeny hes the goat

[plush pumice]

or maybe just send a screenshot or drawing of your setup instead of telling us what buildings you have and expect us to solve your problem

[dense violet]

the reason I asked

"how much water are you putting into 1 pipe?
how much can it handle?"

is because there's some very common beginner mistakes. This is probably the most common. So I'm asking you about your layout. It's important and can probably solve things in like 2 minutes if you bother answering.

[warped pawn]

is 10k silica/min worth it for a aluminum factory or should i just do the non silica recipe

[reef basin]

Cobalt is literally just asking you questions to figure out the problem you have, and he's asking questions so that you figure it out yourself. We aren't telling you to do anything

[west jackal]

they already left the server

[reef basin]

some people

[cursive crane]

Give it a minute theyll either be back or there will be a reddit post lol

[reef basin]

"hey here's 0 information about my setup please fix"

"and don't you dare ask me questions or tell me what to do"

[west jackal]

im sorry that I told him what to do, i didnt realize i shouldnt tell them

[plush pumice]

i cant tell is people like that are genuinely idiots or just ragebaiting

[dense violet]

nah, that was genuine. Some people absolutely cannot stand entering any situation that isn't completely dictated by them, and any one else wanting to make alterations is like an attack on them personally

[west jackal]

you guys were just trying to help him though :/

[dense violet]

doesn't matter. Wasn't going to his script.

[reef basin]

the classic "help me but do it in a way that requires 0 effort from me"

[cursive crane]

Its a new teaching in america, people are taught that having a different learning style is ok, and that the entire world will cater to that style.

Lots more of those people showing up lately that are stuck and refuse to do any research or talk to people because the only style they want is the one thats easiest to them

In all reality not how it works when people arent paid or forced to be around you Lol

[inner pollen]

So who is willing to teach not tell me to do something

[north widget]

guys im gonna need some help

[reef basin]

we asked you a question 🙂 please answer, so we can help

how much water are you putting into 1 pipe?
how much can it handle?

[north widget]

my water by product on no fissle uranium refuses to stop overflwoing

[inner pollen]

I dony know

[reef basin]

then how can we help if we don't know this information?

[dense violet]

look at your water extractors, how much does each make?
check out the tool tip for mk1 pipes, how much flow does it allow

I'm literally teaching you right now. Teaching is my literal job

[last jungle]

interact with the pipe so u can see if it is full or not, maybe that will work

[west jackal]

woah they are back

[inner pollen]

Thats what im trying to say i dont understand it my friend helped me with it and they are asleep i need help so i can do things.

[reef basin]

well, Cobalt already told you what you need to do to find the information 🙂

look at your water extractors, how much does each make?
check out the tool tip for mk1 pipes, how much flow does it allow

[inner pollen]

Its making nothing because i dont have powet

[reef basin]

these are both things that the game shows to you. It's just to read a number

[west jackal]

Are you a teacher irl? What subject/ course?

[last jungle]

ficsit

[reef basin]

both tooltips are available even without power

[dense violet]

chem and physics technically. But the yalways need maths teachers

[plush pumice]

common way to deal with water by-product is to run it into a Wet Concrete refinery and sink the concrete

[west jackal]

what the heck is a yalway lol, sorry off topic!

[dense violet]

always*

[last jungle]

he meant they always

[inner pollen]

Its making nothing i dont understand this shit thats why i am trying to get help but you guys telling me to look somewhere isnt helpping its pissing me off.

[west jackal]

oh, i was hoping it was something more interesting 😦

[reef basin]

we're teaching you how to play the game

[west jackal]

if you open the building, pipe or extractor, it tells you how much it makes per minute

this is what they are asking you to look at. its the same as a smelter or constructor

[reef basin]

if we just tell you "click here to fix it", then you won't know why it works and next time you'll be back here with another "please join and fix"

[north widget]

like i have 45 comign from the non fissle by product and then 15 from a water extractor and it goes into somethign that takes 60

it ALWAYS fills up somehow

[inner pollen]

No your not teaching is showing someone to do something not telling them to do something my water extracters are not pumping any waters and i need water to get power

[west jackal]

is the 15 from extractor making only 15? and is there enough limestone or whatever else?

[cursive crane]

I say this with your best interests at heart.
There are fundamental aspects of the game that you need to understand. Part of the game is learning and researching new fundamentals to more efficiency advance the next segment.
If someone comes and holds your hand for this part, you will burnout or quit at the parts immediately after it. And noone wants to get stuck doing that for the possibly next few hundred hours of gameplay.

If you want help here, you need to learn to communicate without getting frustrated with the people attempting

[dense violet]

I'm pinged you in another channel, if you give a good image of what you have 'I can show you to do something'

[reef basin]

no you don't need water to get power. First two tiers of the game you were using power that doesn't require water

[last jungle]

do a biomass burner for now, when whatever ur doing (prob coal power) starts running u can disassemble the bio generator

[reef basin]

maybe a #1038092680493801533 thread would be even better? 🤔

[plush pumice]

you using the standard recipe or Fertile Uranium recipe? just askin so i can get a better idea on how to help

[dense violet]

maybe but any positive reply with as few steps they need to make I'd take

[north widget]

just found how i originally did my math wrong

[inner pollen]

@reef basin i sent you a dm

[west jackal]

did greeny say you could dm him?

[north widget]

and put 4 blenders then removed one so i overcompensated making 60 nitric acid so i only need 45 but was making 60 so the water was overflowing

[reef basin]

I don't care about that, my DMs are open for a reason

[reef basin]

sure, but helping in private isn't ideal. Better to make a #1038092680493801533 thread, so people can help you there

[west jackal]

oh i thought you were one of the people we couldnt dm 😦

[inner pollen]

For me and my autisum it is ideal so i can focus

[neon dragon]

anyone know what size the space elevator is? foundation wise?

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch space elevator

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=space

[reef basin]

I don't do calls anyway and I don't play the game and don't have it installed, so I can't help you either way. Cobalt already offered his time to help, he pinged you in #math-and-meta

[neon dragon]

ty

i didnt know that wikisearch was a thing here

[west jackal]

well you can also just google it 😛

[cursive crane]

54*54m. With 1 foundation being 8x8m

Reminder not to use the gross wiki. Wiki.gg ftw

[west jackal]

snutt did you look it up or just know that off the top of your head lol

[neon dragon]

yes im not a complete idiot, but i thought some1 in here could probably just instantly give me the answer, therefor i asked here instead of google

[cursive crane]

Got it off the wikisearch

But yea I also know it lol

Im honored to be called snutt but also not my name lmao
Find it hilarious my nickname can cause people to thank snutt

[neon dragon]

snutt literally send the wiki link xd

thanks snutt

[west jackal]

i wasnt calling you an idiot, im sorry if it came off that way. I just meant i do the same thing and often ask questions that could just as easily be googled

[neon dragon]

lmao thank -misses

:kekw

what

[west jackal]

oh no... what do you go by? Jace? I just read it as Snutt lol

[neon dragon]

ah cant use different server emojis here i see

[cursive crane]

EBAH, I suppose I could correct that

[plush pumice]

yeah, need Nitro for that

[neon dragon]

i have nitro, you just cant use em in this server

[reef basin]

no, not possible in this server (unless you're VIP 😛 )

[cursive crane]

Think you might need to boost server?

[reef basin]

it's disabled in the server

was abused too much

[cursive crane]

Sad

[plush pumice]

makes sense tbf

[cursive crane]

There are actually people here that dont know who jace or snutt are and that makes me very sad

[neon dragon]

community manager jace?

[west jackal]

I know who they are, i just didnt realize they are who you were talking about

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I probably should have built my factory there instead, but good thing I didn’t because that’s where I plan to be put my nuclear power plant, lots of water and space there

[gloomy oriole]

Hey, quick question... I just tried sticking a splitter on the end of a lift, it always used to kind of swallow the lift, but worked. Now it seems to completely take over the top of it. Is this right?

[ivory condor]

Of course new people won't know, I only know because I have been playing this game practically forever it feels like

[west jackal]

ive been around for 7 years, lol. This discord server is the longest server ive been a part of

[ivory condor]

I only really know based on the 4k+ hours I have in the game on steam, that I have been playing for a long time

[west jackal]

well i only have like 1800 or something like that. but ive been plaaying since mid-late 2019

[ivory condor]

anybody else remember when you had to do spiral belts because lifts werent in the game yet?

[west jackal]

yes.

i have screenshots somewhere of spiral belts, although i forgot it was because of lifts, i just assumed i was stupid

[ivory condor]

back then the spiral coast was so barren compared to what it is now

[west jackal]

i started playing because of petezahutt, i used to always watch him on youtube and he played it when it first came out. After I saw him i begged my parents to buy me the game and have played it (albeit generally off and on) since

i remember when fluids transported with conveyors because they didnt exist and oil pumped out in barrells

[ivory condor]

northern forest and spiral coast aren't even close to the same anymore

[west jackal]

nah not even close. it was so different back then

[ivory condor]

pipes came in u3, i remember because when u3 came out it broke my save

[west jackal]

yep. thats when i took my first break 😛

[ivory condor]

that was pretty fun, loading into my save, with absolutely no oil

[west jackal]

i got very annoyed because everything broke

(not to mention my coal tractor kept getting stuck because i didnt realize that maybe paving a road would help) haha

[ivory condor]

I remember rushing out to get oil and running pipes back to base like a mad lad😹

Sometimes it just has to happen

[west jackal]

haha that save still has conveyors TRYING to feed into a fuel gen

from a refinery

[ivory condor]

lol

i have old saves that still has that, alot of the pre u3 are all broken now lol

[west jackal]

you know, im building a 4800 fuel/min factory, and im exhausted so my conveyors start becoming spaghetti 😦

[cursive crane]

Vertical splitters now

Most recent update 1.1 #patch-notes #announcements

[west jackal]

yeah, i only had one main save before u3, i had like 30 storage containers for IRON PLATES and i ran the system overnight because i thought i needed that many plates ;-;

[west jackal]

omg vert splitters??! thats sick

look a little funny.. but sick

[wind trout]

when you go out of a hypertube cannon on a mp server, and from then on your controls always has "e: cycle travel direction", thats how you know the hypertube cannon is brokenfast as hell

[cursive crane]

Tbf it doesnt have to be that big of a cannon for it. Mine with like 5 entrances does it lmao

[west jackal]

on MP? i have like 8 entrances and dont get that bug?

(Im in singleplayer only)

[cursive crane]

Yep. Multiplayer. On a server

[wind trout]

fairly innocuous for a bug. much better than when the compass names would all show up blank on mp once you went through a hypertube cannon or, in fact, sometimes just went too fast at all (ime)

[west jackal]

why does blueprint auto connect not seem to work?

[cursive crane]

Havent had issues with it. Share a #screenshots ?

Double check your belts are going the right direction

[west jackal]

its not belts, may be the issue, its foundations with a single fuel gen and a junction connected in front, the power line and the junction do not connect

does it only work with belts?

[tame vortex]

Do you prefer modular factories or giga factories?

[west jackal]

well one factory for an item that produces all the required items from raw

personally to me thats between modular and giga

[cursive crane]

Hmm. Havent done it with pipes actually. I believe its supposed to work, its possible you might need a bit of pipe sticking out of the junction? Otherwise might wanna youtube that one or make a post in #1038092680493801533

[cursive crane]

Giga factories eventually get so big it affects your frames. Best way to go is modular. But depending on your hardware you can go PRETTY BIG

Nature of the game also kinda forces you to explore and expand elsewhere on the map

[tame vortex]

I prefer giga factory, and i'hav mk4 my giga can start i think, modudlar so complicate

[west jackal]

im too tired to understand what youre saying, but everyone has their own style !

[west jackal]

ill try that tommorow, i have class in a few hours and needa sleep

[reef basin]

usually the term is megafactories ||but you're not the only one lost in SI prefixes 😄 /s ||

[cursive crane]

Tldr for this one if someone more experienced sees it

Blueprint pipes not autoconnecting to junction?

[west jackal]

this is why the metric system is better 😉 jk im an engineering student and have used SI for 6 years now and its sooooo much better

also omg since when do pipes and belts automatically do right angles?? that makes my life SOOOO much easier

[reef basin]

metric is SI

[fathom shuttle]

Greens can we expect a tools UI update?

[reef basin]

what UI update? 🤔

[west jackal]

wait wut, I thought SI was imperial

[fathom shuttle]

Must have been a bad eng school

[west jackal]

well the american education system failed me there

[reef basin]

SI is literally all the kilo-, mega-, etc.

[sterile blade]

Satisfactory 1.0 and 1.1 both introduced some new building modes for belts/pipes iirc (maybe just one of them)

[west jackal]

SI is the good stuff

[west jackal]

although i typically work with milli micro and nano

[west jackal]

thank you! they are so nice

[reef basin]

no but seriously - what update do you mean? 🤔 😄

[boreal musk]

1.0 is straight belt
1.1 is straight pipe and curve pipe/belt
@dylan.23

[cursive crane]

You do know hes not a coffee stain employee right?

[sterile blade]

The one you've been teasing for years now?

[reef basin]

well I was confused by the "UI" update

[sterile blade]

He's the creator of "tools" 😅 (SFTools)

[sterile blade]

Isn't it included in the big update?

[ivory condor]

the tools is in its final form, no updates are needed

[cursive crane]

Ah gotcha

[spark junco]

Hey I’m just getting to coal power running and was wondering if someone could check out my base and maybe try to tell me what I’m doing wrong. But I’m also scared they will destroy stuff

[reef basin]

as for new Tools, I've mentioned a few times that I'm taking a break due to life stuff (past 6ish months). Recently moved to a new place, so free time currently full of unpacking crates and such, but plan is to get back to development sometimes soon-ish (I'm estimating 1-2 months before back to full focus on new Tools). However, they are still far from finished, so I'm not even sure if I can say 2025 😄

[sterile blade]

No rush, just jokes here :P

[cursive crane]

Make a post in #1038092680493801533 with some screenshots and some more in detailed questions on what you are looking for is best bet

Otherwise, just check the throughput of the pipes. How much extractors make, and how much the generators use.

pumps are only needed if you are lifting water vertically too high.

[west jackal]

well there isnt really a right and a wrong, are there any pressing issues?

Or do as [EBAH] instructed, probably the best thing anyways

[spark junco]

When I make the coal plant. First of all it’s not enough power for my little factory even tho I have 4 Coal generators. And the coal on the MK2 Convayor barley reaches the last two

[dense violet]

is the power unstable?

[fathom shuttle]

Updates to tools visualization. It’s kind of messy

[spark junco]

But yes I’ll do what EBAH suggestion tomorrow when I hop on

[west jackal]

well, how much coal is going onto the conveyor? the belt is 120/min so that should be fast enough to handle 8 coal generators

[cursive crane]

The coal barely reaching mk 2 shouldnt be an issue. Gotta let the machines fill up, they each hold a stack of coal so might take a minute.

[reef basin]

any more concrete example?

(serious question)

[west jackal]

yes if manifolding

[sterile blade]

Note: rather than having someone join via multiplayer (with related risks), you could just screenshare your issue with them ^^

[west jackal]

well i suppose even splitters eventually turn into manifolds lol

[sterile blade]

Unless properly balanced...

[cursive crane]

Even if balancing correctly its still 4-8 stacks of coal lol

[spark junco]

If I let the four fill up complete and the conveyors. Then it lasts for a hot minute then eventually slows down

[west jackal]

yes, sorry i said that poorly. if they arent balanced it eventually would backup and turn into a manifold

[cursive crane]

If you are running 8 gens thats maxed out so theyll never fill

[fathom shuttle]

I’ll show you screenshots later but it’s bad when the rate/min of items overlap, and the fact that you need to read

[west jackal]

(check the input when you can)

[spark junco]

Ahhh man I’m just confused lol sorry guys

[west jackal]

my guess is that either a belt is a mk1 somewhere instead of all mk2, or the input is not 120/min

[cursive crane]

Yea honestly probably just need some pictures to help further then, feel free to ping me when you do so

[spark junco]

Do you think I could VC with you and share my screen? Or just send Screenshots

I just want this fixed. Because I’m struggling lol

[sterile blade]

I read that as "please make it so that I don't need to read the answers your software gives me, just put them in my brain directly, k-thanks!"

[reef basin]

you can move boxes around, it's very hard and sometimes impossible to make the visualisation in a way that it doesn't overlap.

not sure what the "you need to read" is for, I don't think I want to do a generated voice to tell you what is on screen lol 😄

[reef basin]

as said above, best bet is to make #1038092680493801533 post with images

[spark junco]

Ok ok I will in the morning

Thanks guys

[west jackal]

Its actually funny i suggested to check about having a mk1 conveyor where you meant to have a mk2. I said this while trying to figure out why i wasnt making enough water... turns out i also had a mk1 pipe instead of a mk2..

[spark junco]

I’m using MK1 Pipes right now

I don’t have MK2 Yet

Just got coal power and just got the foundry stuff but have not placed it down

[west jackal]

Noo I mean belts

[cursive crane]

You can send screenshots if you want, unfortunately wont be available for vc until this weekend
Otherwise good night 🙂

[west jackal]

Like you said the coal runs out on the conveyor. Its possible that you accidently built with a mk1 belt instead of a 2 (one piece would cause this) unless your miner only outputs 60

I was explain I did the same thing but with pipes

[fathom shuttle]

Why not put it at the beginning of the line instead of the middle?
Also what I meant by is it would be better if an items picture is displayed with its name on the bottom. Couldn’t finish the sentence sorry

[reef basin]

I mean it can overlap no matter where you put it 🤔
and as for images - unfortunately the visualisation software I use doesn't support images (and I had a tons of feedback from people telling me that they are happy that I use text over images 🤷 )

maybe in new Tools I'll be able to add configuration for some of these

[fathom shuttle]

Yea for sure, and maybe get inspiration (steal) from modeler’s ideas

[west jackal]

If my opinion matters, id prefer text over images, however a checkbox on each box, or even a context menu that allows you to "mark as complete" per node would be great, it would make it easier to track

[reef basin]

I personally find modeller's UI to be unreadable

[reef basin]

I have a plan to do something similar (probably even better) for new Tools

[west jackal]

Woooohooo

[reef basin]

but no promises 😛

[west jackal]

Im not complaining about the current to be clear, I love it

Its the only reason I was able to get pcu to work a couple years ago

[fathom shuttle]

The main problem for modeler is that it doesn’t display the name of the item lol

[reef basin]

and recipe

and basically anything

(also, modeller is less of a calculator, and more of a logistical planner)

[fathom shuttle]

Yes exactly, you describe it perfectly. If you combine it and tools you’ll get the perfect production planner

[reef basin]

I feel that best logistical planner is Satisfactory

and (personally) don't see the appeal of planning it ouside of the game

[fathom shuttle]

It’s way faster to do with software

[reef basin]

I'd disagree, since when you finish "planning" it in Satisfactory, you also have it already built 😉

[sterile blade]

I second that. Pictures can take away needing to read, making the workflow faster ^^

[reef basin]

well, the initial plan was to have pictures + text, but as said above, the visualisation library doesn't really support that. New Tools may or may not have options for this

[junior laurel]

Looking forward to it.
In the mean time it is taking me over a month to build one section of my factory so to finish the entire thing would take over a year.

So I'd like to have the plan saved locally and for it to be logistically """solved"""

[thin pilot]

How good are the tractors at transporting resources need to get steel from my steel factory so I can make the automatic wiring n stuff for the space elevator

[reef basin]

good as anything else - they will transport stuff 😉

[cursive crane]

If you can provide them with a solid fuel source

They aight

[slim jackal]

coal seems to be pretty okay for fuel if you arent able to refine it from oil yet

[fathom shuttle]

Splitters split stuff exactly into 2 if I connect 2 belts right?

[reef basin]

they alternate between outputs and skip full ones

so yes (if the outputs are empty)

[fathom shuttle]

Now I’ll need to actually build the belts and connect everything

I’ll use belts connected to the ceiling

[silver void]

After an embarassing amount of hours, I am finally about to complete phase 4

Been playing since update 4. Never made it

always hit a boredom wall once i hit aluminum

Once I get Mk 5 Belts, I'll probably be scra[[ing most of my factories and making some very cool architectural factories to finish the game. Love all of the designs other make.

[fathom shuttle]

I’m planning to use bauxite 1,560 for my aluminum set up

Aluminum is surprisingly easy once you have the right recipes and you start to OC things

Also compact

[slim jackal]

i need to

remake my oil refinery icl i want it to be an actual building

not just out in the open 😔

[heavy juniper]

How can I export my blueprints from a previous save into my current save?

[slim jackal]

nope, im european too :D

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q="oil plant" AND architecture

[leaden turret]

copy/paste

[slim jackal]

ok no not that grandiose jesus christ

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q="oil+plant"+AND+weatherwax

[heavy juniper]

And where do I copy them from, and where do I paste them to?