satisfactory

[primal haven]

they use this future material called ficsit trigons

it gets sorta weird in phase 5 not gonna lie

[west jackal]

that sounds... weird...

[primal haven]

yeah phase 5 is all like fantasy tech

i still enjoyed it though but its quite a departure from whats before it

[stark solar]

DD is fairly fantasy too

[primal haven]

yeah exactly like that

same vibe

[west jackal]

im so happy i have 3GW in batteries.... my new fuel setup im doing one section at a time and i didnt have to go shut off other factories

[primal haven]

yeah im not sure who started the conversation but batteries saved me a ton of trouble too

[west jackal]

I ran out of wire, so i only have like 32 batteries rn, but they are SOOOOO nice

[primal haven]

well i guess its called power storage

[west jackal]

ik

but they are batteries lol

[primal haven]

i literally skipped batteries in my last play through so im sort of fine with calling power storage batteries

something about the battery input items made me upset

[atomic notch]

the only batteries i got are the ones i stick on geothermals

i prolly should make a lil power bank somewhere tho

[frail sleet]

yeah they are kinda bad

rocket fuel is just better

[primal haven]

i guess its more environmentally safe lol

but yeah I just fueled everything with rocket fuel too

[spiral dew]

just got diluted fuel recipe or classic battery

[timid rune]

diluted fuel

always hah

[primal haven]

everyone was saying diluted fuel is awesome

[spiral dew]

diluted fuel fo sure, that was what i was hunting for

[stark solar]

Diluted fuel is fantastic

[timid rune]

water is free (outside of power requirements)

[foggy flume]

can i join someone

[primal haven]

only down side is the number of fuel gens

actually just the number of machines

[fathom shuttle]

108GWh here

[atomic notch]

sure but ur gonna hate my world i guarantee it

[foggy flume]

i just need a break from my own

[fathom shuttle]

Add me

Im grabbing breakfast you guys start without me

[tranquil hemlock]

Is it possible to use the tractor to only partially unload at one stop, and drop off the rest at another? I wanna get it to pick up sulphur, then drop off partially at my black powder factory near the coal nodes, pick up some black powder there, and then bring both black powder and raw sulphur to my base?

It doesn't look like it's possible, unless I send it back to the sulphur pickup, but just wanted to check

[west jackal]

i will i just didnt have enough resources at that time

[west jackal]

breakfast 😮 its like 1130 PM

[west jackal]

thats not possible unless the tractor station is full and it cant unload it all

[tranquil hemlock]

Thought so, thanks

[west jackal]

ugh transporting 80 stacks of motors is a PITA

[abstract heron]

want heat IRL 🥵

[silk mist]

is 50 oscillators pm overkill? i like the crystal computer and superposition oscillator is necessary, but i don't want to bother planning for 50pm if it's absurd overkill, scaling down would be 20

[west jackal]

heat? brother it was 98 F here today before the extra heat from the sun

[abstract heron]

it was 33C or 34C today for me

[silk mist]

it's 40C+ on the daily here rn

it's brutal

[west jackal]

it was around 40C today

but im American so we dont call it C lol

[abstract heron]

summer is my normal not playing much

[silk mist]

same, i just do the conversion for folks. 110+F on the daily

[tranquil hemlock]

XD Middle of winter here in Australia, it's finally cooled down to a nice 22C through the day. Still too warm for the "warm and comfy" clothes though XD

[west jackal]

felt that 😦

[wicked nacelle]

why does sometimes the mouse wheel switch which side of a track the signal goes on and sometimes it doesnt?

not which side the train drives on, that's r

the "rotate hologram" option in the hud acknowledges the mouse wheel scroll, the signal just doesn't chagne though

[fresh copper]

those whove finished project assembly, how many hours?

[hollow onyx]

anybody know how to stop lag when i hold out my conveyor

[west jackal]

wahoo finally comfortable on power

[lyric gyro]

I hate my power plant

[west jackal]

its kinda a mess because im doing packaged diluted fuel alt

[lyric gyro]

For some reason there's a shortage in oil for fuel, and the machines that harvest oil are just working half of the timr

While the pipes are overflowing with oil

And still, there's not enough oil to produce enough fuel

[stone python]

annnnnd, time to make a new save

[west jackal]

sounds like a fluid issue

[lyric gyro]

1200 oil for 8 refineries for 800 m³ fuel for 16 fuel generators each consuming 50 m³

[fresh copper]

how many hours has each phase taken you?

[west jackal]

fluids are... for lack of a better word... fucky

[lyric gyro]

Everywhere pipes are second level

[abstract heron]

do 400 for each due to 600 per line

[stark solar]

Generally it's not that hard to look over your factory at each machine in turn to figure out where the problem is.

[west jackal]

you CAN max out the 600 pipe but its weird, except for crude output from a pure node i do 480 or so max per pipe

[lyric gyro]

I connected all pipes oil together after they were individually connected each flow to each amount of refinery

And it still doesn't stabilise

[stark solar]

Wait for it to fill up entirely before starting the consumers

[lyric gyro]

I did

[leaden ether]

Never had a problem maxing out a 600 pipe, do it all the time with water and oil.

[lyric gyro]

Now after a while it just fucks everything up and is unstable

[west jackal]

idk im just paranoid from the past

that being said, after starting production its not too bad to use 480 pipes

[lyric gyro]

I turned off the whole system, waited for the fuel gems to fill up, as well as oil refinery

[leaden ether]

Heh yeah I can see that. I avoided the EA, so everything was new and working at 1.0 levels when I started.

[lyric gyro]

Still nothing

[west jackal]

... yea

[wicked nacelle]

I don't count cuz I always run it overnight to make items

[spiral dew]

good plastic supply incoming 😄 #screenshots message

probably my favorite production line so far with the recycled rubber component

[frail sleet]

Simple pipes don't have any backflow, but complex ones (junctions splitting unevenly) do have consequential backflow that essentially derates them

[wicked nacelle]

great.. I have a bunch of trains constantly driving in a circle that has nothing to do with their destinations

[frail sleet]

for example if you put a straight turbofuel manifold with a consumption of 600, only about 500 of it gets through while the end of the line starves and the beginning stalls

[wicked nacelle]

I added a new station and now they're all braindead

[leaden ether]

Yeah my biggest lesson was to separate pipes and use one per as few machines is paractical. ANd that does frequently mean utilising less that the max pip flow often.

[west jackal]

can you have multiplepower augmenters?

(and get the 10% effect)

[leaden ether]

Up to 10 and get 100%

[wicked nacelle]

yes, it's on your non-augmented power

it doesn't augment the augmented power -- there's an ADA line about that

or an alien line I guess

[west jackal]

aight, bet

[wicked nacelle]

but... those sloops are more valuable elsewhere

[fresh copper]

i played 63 hours of satisfactory this week and just remembered "oh yeah theres other shit i wanna do with my life"
satisfactory go nom nom to time like that

[leaden ether]

Heh 😄 In this save I have 4 augmenters and two of them are matrixed so I'm getting a 50% boost

[west jackal]

lol ik wym, i keep getting the "water break" popups

[west jackal]

isnt that 80?

30% 30% 10% 10%

[wicked nacelle]

yeah this sucks. If I add this one station I want all my trains path in a loop. I take it out and they start going the right places

[leaden ether]

From what I read in the UI it should be butit's not nearly that high....

[west jackal]

oh 😦

[fathom shuttle]

So with 4 cars going uphill with 2m ramps should I use one or two locomotives

[leaden ether]

132 GW boost out of 297 GW total

[fathom shuttle]

It’s a high throughput item (quick wire)

[frail sleet]

1 loco per 4 carts is fine

i treat quickwire like screws though, move caterium ingots and make the quickwire right where it's needed

[fathom shuttle]

Problem is that it’s like 2km apart so…

[wicked nacelle]

one

[frail sleet]

1200 ore turns into 400-800 ingots which turns into 2000-4000 quickwire

so moving it as quickwire requires 5x as many carts

[leaden ether]

Oh okay it is 80% boost. I just mathed it, it sure doesn't LOOK like at first glance though

[west jackal]

i second bookie, make the quickwire itself on location and move the cat ingots

[west jackal]

shit youre right, i read that as roughly 450 GW total

[fathom shuttle]

Oh I just had a brainfart, that was my original plan but idk why I said quickwire

[west jackal]

wait shit i mean aeryn lol

[fathom shuttle]

Yea I’m going to be doing 1600/min quickwire out of a single line so trying to move that by train is almost impossible

Unless I use a 40 car trains….

[fathom shuttle]

Btw by 1200 ore into 800 ingot you mean the pure Caterium recipe right

[frail sleet]

A train line can quite easily move 1 belt of throughput

[frail sleet]

Leached actually makes more ingots for caterium, and one of the best uses of sulfur. Pure is not bad though

[stark solar]

Generally IMO it's best to reserve sulphur for improving coal or fuel plants

[fathom shuttle]

No sulfur nearby unfortunately

[wicked nacelle]

so get some

this is what trains are for

[frail sleet]

pure is fine 😄

[fathom shuttle]

I should have not skipped the pure Caterium recipe…

[wicked nacelle]

nope

[atomic notch]

iirc it boosts per machine not overall

[fathom shuttle]

But this should be fine since I’ll only be building it way later

[wicked nacelle]

all the pure-whatever recipes are top-tier get right away recipes

[stark solar]

I think the ones that use water are

But using sulphur primarily for power and secondarily in limited degrees for weapons is IMO the best use for it; it's quite rare

[frail sleet]

There's 10200 of it, i used it just for power and weapons and finished the game with 75% unused

[wicked nacelle]

so is caternium -- quite rare

[stark solar]

Caterium is rare, sure, but it also doesn't have that many uses. You need power for so many things.

[atomic notch]

i just grab all the recipes tbh

[frail sleet]

you can build 14 TW of power and you only actually need 0.2 TW

[atomic notch]

then i can use whatever one fits my needs

[fathom shuttle]

When do you unlock thermal power

[wicked nacelle]

the number of different uses is irrelevant. The amount of it you need is

[stark solar]

The max theoretical power isn't that relevant

[next umbra]

I build more power than I need because I end up using more power than I have

[stark solar]

bookie: That's in the MAM

[frail sleet]

Just showing how far the resources go, there's enough resources to make 14,000 GW and 1% of those resources makes 140 GW which is all you need

ergo 99% of the power resources go unused on the map

[stark solar]

Again, the max possible in the game is not that relevant.

[fathom shuttle]

Which tree?

[stark solar]

In practice almost nobody will gather a reasonable percentage of any resource type in the game

[frail sleet]

If that's your argument, why extend it with claims that you should do X because resources will run out? Either one is true, or the other is - not both

[fathom shuttle]

People do 100% uranium quiet often

Mainly because there’s not a lot of it

[atomic notch]

speak for yourself proverbial frog in the well

[wicked nacelle]

it's pretty easy to gather all the sam in the game

[stark solar]

I think geothermal is at the bottom of the caterium tree

[wicked nacelle]

even slooped there isn't much

[sterile blade]

And because there's no other uses for it :P

[stark solar]

bookie: Ok, that's a point for Uranium

[fathom shuttle]

Oh I forgot about that

I saw it and said (nah I don’t have that many high speed connectors)

[frail sleet]

I used 1 sulfur node for all weapons and 1 sulfur node for 200gw of rocket fuel, so there's at least 6 more pure nodes worth on that save. That's the one where i went with the same approach, use sulfur only when neccesary and for power.

[wicked nacelle]

nuclear wants a lot of it. Caternium wants a lot. 200GW isn't all that much, you'd want at least 3x that

[stark solar]

Sure, but if you're really able to think about the entire map as a valid place to get stuff, you're probably in a rarity of the players.

[frail sleet]

you can do over 14,000gw before your sulfur runs out

[stark solar]

Most people are only going to pick a few regions because the effort needed to power and transport kinda limits you

[wicked nacelle]

for sure.

[atomic notch]

krill issue

[wicked nacelle]

if you build trains correctly, each "next area" is close by to existing train infrastructure

[stark solar]

You can't stay entirely in a limited area - you need aluminium and that means some degree of transport is needed unless you hoof it to where you can build it and do your main base there.

[wicked nacelle]

most people build awful train infrastructure

[stark solar]

But treating the entire map as your playground for getting stuff? That's incredibly high-effort

[atomic notch]

honestly hooking up all the geothermals early gets you setup for power infrastructure pretty well

[wicked nacelle]

geothermal is a newb trap

[atomic notch]

free power who cares

[wicked nacelle]

i mean.. noa "trap" but.. it's basically a nothingburger. I take them when I see them but then I check my power and it doesn't move.

[frail sleet]

Yeah they don't do a lot

[stark solar]

I like geothermal for bootstrapping generators in an area

[wicked nacelle]

best thing is if you're exploring far away you can use it to make a radar and a hypertubre cannon

if they do a "you lose power with long power lines" update, then it will matter more

apparently they're thinking about doing that

[frail sleet]

that would be pretty awful practically speaking

[stark solar]

Like, if you want dedicated power to get/convert mats for a coal or fuel plant, if there's a geothermal nearby you can put it on that and you'll never have trouble bootstrapping it

[wicked nacelle]

nah, it would just force you to build power in different areas. You can't just build one huge power field

I think it would be a welcome new addition - with an option to disable it

[stark solar]

I haven't seen anything indicating they're considering power loss over long distances.

[atomic notch]

itd be cool

depending on the loss it could really disrupt a lot of build orders

[fathom shuttle]

In another W for me, I have 1800 iron ore literally right next door to my factory waiting to be used. Concrete is ready, Caterium is ready too , I’ve eliminated copper entirely out of the equation, coal is ready, petro coke is ready, bauxite is ready as well. All of these resources will be set up so that I can use them with mk3 miners for full mk5 belt speed

[stark solar]

bookie: Fun times!

[frail sleet]

there are lots of variables that could be done, like how much power loss there is per meter, if there's a threshold length before it begins, etc. Also transmission lines at higher voltage for less loss, but require transformers etc.

All in all though, wiring stuff could use a rework. 1 connection per machine, no daisychaining, unlimited current etc stick out.

Have to be careful to find a good balance of fun vs annoyance though

[fathom shuttle]

All I need to do is to upgrade the miners and the factory will magically adjust

[wicked nacelle]

hrmm, can't find what I saw

[atomic notch]

power infrasructure complexity would be cool since just connecting stuff seems pretty nutty

[stark solar]

Probably depends on what they think people find fun

[atomic notch]

like i said frog in a well

[frail sleet]

Also, it's explicitly stated that caterium is a high temperature (read: room temperature) superconductor, i.e. no transmission losses. They'd have to retcon that out of the lore.

[west jackal]

are valves still a bad idea to use?

[stark solar]

Certain breaks from reality can add to the game for some people, and diminish for others. e.g. the lack of physics on objects. Maybe some people would like it if you couldn't have factory floors without sufficient support, with them automatically collapsing if they went over weight tolerances or you broke a support line. Others would hate that.

I use valves in certain situations, but some people here like to yell at people who even suggest such a thing.

[frail sleet]

Yeah, it could be cool, one thing that is 100% certain though is that it would be a major challenge to implement without massive additional CPU load.

[honest void]

How do I kill those poisonous flowers ?

[frail sleet]

bombs

[west jackal]

nobbys

[stark solar]

Heimdall: Throw a nobelisk or use explosive rebar

[honest void]

Smart. Thanks :)

[stark solar]

Explosive rebar may be a better choice for them

[west jackal]

screw you man its time for ragnarok

sorry tired thinking of GOW

[honest void]

What xD

[west jackal]

Heimdall is Oden's right hand in GOW: Ragnarok (also I believe this is true just in general of Norse Mythology) he guards the horn that would signal ragnarok in the game

Hes evil 🤷‍♂️

[dense violet]

... are people talking about gears of war?

[west jackal]

god of war not gears and sorry im exhausted ive been playing for 7h today

[dense violet]

Ah. almost as old a series though not quite dead

[west jackal]

well they are still making god of war games

[fathom shuttle]

Not really dead tho, lots of people still play it

[tawdry knoll]

Question, I have now used wayyyy too many hours getting harddrives to try and get "Alternative recipes: Heat exchanger" but I can't get it? I have every single unlockable item in my stage, it shouldn't be locked, does anyone else have the recipe unlocked??

[boreal orchid]

Does anyone know how to get a lot of plastic? I need about 300 to 400 per Minute for the Assembly Directory System.

[steady glade]

depends how much effort you wanna put in

in phase 3 you can get 900 plastic or rubber out of 300 oil

[west jackal]

im not sure, and im going to bed, but if you really cant get it, you can upload your save into SCIM and... alter your save to force the alt into your inventory without disabling achievements

[tawdry knoll]

I'm playing on a friends server qwq

[boreal orchid]

Are there any alternative recipies or is just my Supplie system bad, If I have enough Overclocked Refineries?

[tawdry knoll]

but thx

[west jackal]

i mean they could do the same, regardless, ive had the same issue with other alts and you just have to keep grinding

[steady glade]

yes its mostly made out of alternate recipes

[tawdry knoll]

I can't grind anymore... it litterly says "No more rewards available" in the MAM

[boreal orchid]

What Alternate Recepies are those?

[timid rune]

you need Heavy OIl Residue + Diluted fuel + Recycled plastic +Recycled rubber

[steady glade]

||Oil -> Heavy Oil -> Diluted Fuel | Residual Rubber -> Recycled Plastic -> Recycled Rubber ||

[west jackal]

wait what alt

[tawdry knoll]

Alternate: Heat Exchanger

[boreal orchid]

OK, Im going to look for Harddrives, Thanks

[dense violet]

really double check it hasn't been grabbed by someone else.
if not, get friend to restart server

[west jackal]

have you already unlocked tier 8 advanced aluminum production

[tawdry knoll]

I have, both in my own recipies thingy, and in the MAM

[tawdry knoll]

The only thing in T8 I haven't gotten are "Nuclear power" and "Particle enrichment"

[west jackal]

the server may need to be restarted, it may just be a bug at this point.

[tawdry knoll]

Alr, i'll try and say it to the server owner

[honest void]

Can you have multiple MAM and research multiple hard drives at once?

[spiral hound]

i have a question, is there a way to see more than 1 pod like in the first trailer on the steam page?

can i send u a pic?

sent

[native cradle]

No just one at a time

[shy mulch]

You can have multiple mam, but still can't do overlapping research

[native cradle]

So I recommend you do all your MAM research before putting any hard drives in because then you can only use it again in ten mins

[shy mulch]

Best way to do hard drives is when you find one, build a mam right where you are, put the drive in it and start the research, then delete the mam. The research continues in the background so by the time you get back to your main base it'll be done 🙂

[native cradle]

I believe there’s only one pod regardless

So the host player gets the cutscene and spawns by the pod and any further players spawn in the hub (or if there is no hub they spawn at a random location in the biome)

That hasn’t happened for me

I have friends

Is this for dedicated servers because that might be different?

Do you not have friends

[honest void]

Just got back home with 21 hard drives, will take some time...

[native cradle]

That’s gonna take over 3 hours

[honest void]

Yes, 3h30min

[native cradle]

Should’ve probably put them in as you go

[honest void]

True

I need the recipies for aluminium 🙏

[boreal musk]

thats just for cinematic purpose

[vernal patrol]

turns out, people were right. satisfactory doesnt really start until phase 3 lol

it really doesnt tho

like if ur being literal no it doesnt

but if ur talking abt the meat and onions of satisfactory, it doesnt start till phase 3

oh tru

u only get eaten if ur bad at dodging

[vagrant oar]

what's phase 3 again, nuclear?

[vernal patrol]

the early game sucked tho. i didnt have my deep rock galactic mixtape

[vernal patrol]

oil.

[vagrant oar]

oil

I could do oil chains all day

satisfactory has the best oil chains

lbf?

oh jetpack

[vernal patrol]

i jus use tf tbh

until hp

[vagrant oar]

is lbf better than fuel

[vernal patrol]

lot slower tho

and i need le speed

SPEED

NYEWM

[fathom shuttle]

Phase4

[vagrant oar]

but zoomies

[vernal patrol]

lbf is better for building than tf but tf is better for exploring

[vagrant oar]

just automate it, idiot

[vernal patrol]

automate. biomass.

thats doable.

[vagrant oar]

biocoal?

[vernal patrol]

thats bio to coal

[vagrant oar]

what's the other way around

[fathom shuttle]

Gather a bunch of it and forget about it for the rest of the game lol

[vernal patrol]

not coal to bio

[vagrant oar]

coalbio

[vernal patrol]

impossible

[vagrant oar]

oh gg

[vernal patrol]

u cant automate biomass

[fathom shuttle]

4 animal remains into 24k solid biofuel

Pretty easy

[vernal patrol]

elaborate

you still have to do stuff

[fathom shuttle]

Sloopsies

[vernal patrol]

if yoi have to touch the keyboard its not automated

[steady cedar]

Well you can't automate everything plus you don't need biomass that much

[fathom shuttle]

Some things can’t be automated, but you can get close to zero effort exertion if you do it right like with solid biofuel

[vernal patrol]

sounds like hell

[fathom shuttle]

It doesn’t take 10 minutes to make all the solid biofuel you will ever need for the rest of the game

Oof must be brutal for end game items

Just imagine leaving a 2x’ing of all your machines on the table because of a restraint you put on yourself

I’ll sloop warp drives to the max

Nuclear pasta too

I’ll probably save up like 1000 warp drives and sink them for 1b/min points

Yea but they build up fast overtime

[hollow hazel]

@spiral hound I think you can build a pod from the mod Factory Props.

[fathom shuttle]

If you afk for 8 hours with 4/min production then that’s 2k pasta

If you sloop it then it’s 3.8k, pretty easy

[visual rose]

Is satisfactory on Xbox yet?

[leaden turret]

you can wishlist it

[visual rose]

Damn it

Thx for the info

Ik

[fathom shuttle]

Hardest part will be the copper

Pressure conversion cubes can be slooped quiet easily with just 2 sloops needed for an assembler

[visual rose]

My water pipe system is a mess at the moment

It looks worse then my cable management

[warped pawn]

what should i add to my parking lot? #screenshots

i was about to add that one

its gonna be a huge parking lot so i dont wanna spam them since i havent automated them yet

i like how the mini carts dont need fuel

[light iron]

Is it important to make a compact factory

[reef basin]

not at all, map is huge and you won't run out of space

[light iron]

I just see people saying that somebody factory could be compactet so idk

[reef basin]

well it probably could be 🙂

but whether you want to is a different story 🙂

[warped pawn]

it just looks better

[light iron]

Is vertical the best way to compact a factory

[reef basin]

that's subjective

I don't really like the super compact factories where everything clips and nothing is visible

[warped pawn]

totally is, compact isnt the best for looks if you have enough space just make it look as nice as u can

[light iron]

I like the style kibitz does with the concrete

[minor vale]

Worry more about whatever is the easiest for you to set up. OR, setting up things in a way that's fun for you.
if you start worrying about having to do things in XYZ way (which only really applies to nuclear because... well, the waste issue, there is a wrong way to do that), the gmae will start to feel like work and you won't want to play it.

[warped pawn]

what stage of the game are u in>

[light iron]

I restarted because my last save was so chaotic i started having an aneurysm

[light iron]

Im already having problems with xy so

[minor vale]

what are you having issues with?

[fresh wharf]

Anybody got a pic of how big the exploision of the nuke canister is?

[steady glade]

i dunno, get some goggles, a spitter cave and tell us

[fresh wharf]

Damn

[urban root]

It's dam near 20 meters³. Though I use them with the hoverpack so they could be bigger. the radiation it temporarily leaves behind feels bigger than that

[warped pawn]

can u guys check ss idk if my parking lot is missing smthn

[urban root]

Floor decals and lines

[warped pawn]

any decal reccomendations?

[urban root]

Nothing specific but It Must look like a corporate controlled and organized, ficsit approved area

[minor vale]

hm...
I can't seem to get my signaling to work on my 4 way intersection...

so I think i'm just gonna do what I did last time again... and not allow normal left turns.

[urban root]

Path in block out. Keep the segments between signals longer than your longest train

[minor vale]

that is not the problem.
making the paths not return errors on my 4 way intersection test is.

...and also making trains not potentially cause crashes by making left hand turns.
easy enough solution though

No left turns

like in my old save's train network.
#design-and-architecture message

[urban root]

Interesting

[minor vale]

the uh old network was a combo car highway train network
And using u-turns was my solution to making left turns.
made the signals play nice too.
was hoping I could simplify things this time around but well

Proper train signalling for left turns is hard when I get "loops on itself" error on some of my signals when there are no loops in the system.

[light iron]

Planning enough space for everything i mostly place the constructers and forget about conveyers

[urban root]

Leave three free tiles between the planned walls the production area

[minor vale]

honestly that's fixable by just... placing conveyers and splitters/mergers as you go about placing buildings. like.. place the building row and immedietly connect it with that.

[light iron]

Thats smart

[urban root]

Also consider getting everything off the floor or through it above, underneath or both

[minor vale]

if you open up your inventory, hover over the right edge of the screen and click. you can open a todo list and write down notes to help you keep track of things.

very helpful little thing.

[light iron]

Thank you i saw it on videos but didnt find it

[queen nimbus]

Does the move position of items to align with world grid actually work with SCIM or does it break my factories

[heavy mist]

Ok lads make the prediction
Will I get turbo electric motor when I’m back from the gym

[arctic swallow]

yes

[novel crane]

no youll get distracted

[heavy mist]

Well I ran the MAM before I left
Have 13 more drives and 2 hrs before work
I got this

[arctic swallow]

what should i put on top https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1386639728060797030

[leaden turret]

[leaden turret]

[obsidian zodiac]

some sort of dome would be cool, would look like a jellyfish

[dense violet]

fewer buffers

😛

[queen nimbus]

Where is the best place to build turbo fuel power plant

[lost wagon]

Personal storage on top of each, with mercer balls inside of one, forget which one it is and play a where it is game when you need to use them

[arctic swallow]

i don't know how to build a dome

[obsidian zodiac]

sick me neither

[queen nimbus]

Jashon how do I manage the community

[obsidian zodiac]

its less managing and more wrangling wild cats

[arctic swallow]

[arctic swallow]

nah

[leaden turret]

June 17th, 2025
Q&A: Does the Lizard Doggo have nipples?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVIBtXVtBpU

get your head out of the gutter

[winter scaffold]

Where is good starting locations in 1.1

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac thumbs down to getting one's head out of the gutter, understood.

[leaden turret]

rocky desert has convenient access to everything

[cedar beacon]

when u build platforms in zoop mode u can build over existing platform and they get overlaid over each other occupying the same spot, is this a bug?

[lyric gyro]

Yes and no, there's a lot of things in satisfactory that can overlap and the game just lets it happen

[cedar beacon]

i see, also i remember being able to place belts right next to each other but now there is always a small gap between them, did something change?

[lyric gyro]

I don't recall any changes to belts in 1.1

[fresh wharf]

Where is crude oil usually? I rarely find it on the map even with the radar

[green fiber]

Coast

[fresh wharf]

Thanks

[green fiber]

North coast, west coast.
Some in the swamp and some near the bottom right crater lake

[fresh wharf]

Also, if I have around triple of my power needs as power supply, should I still make a nuclear plant?

My fuel plant is enough currently, so I'm not sure if it's worth it

[green fiber]

I have no clue how much power you even make

[fresh wharf]

I need like 5K MW on average and I'm making 10K

[green fiber]

You could make 3 MW for all i know

[fresh wharf]

Soo double not triple I just checked

[arctic swallow]

is this a good 1 to 3 intersection? https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1386655738214223902

[green fiber]

Tier 7-8 will maaaybe need a few thousand MW for all the high tech stuff. So usually you are fine there (conditions apply of course, it depends on how big you build)

But the very last Tier eats power for breakfast

[fresh wharf]

Alright, I'll make a nuclear power plant then.

Also, is there a way to make train systems cleaner? I'm thinking about just removing them and using drones instead because railways take too much space and look ugly if I don't straighten them with pillars

[green fiber]

Particle Accelerators already tend to eat 1500 MW

[green fiber]

Trains are high throughput, drones low throughput

Pick your transport method based on what you wanna transport and how much

[fresh wharf]

Do drones transport liquid or do I have to package it?

[green fiber]

Solids only

[fresh wharf]

Fuck

[green fiber]

So yeah, packaging needed

[hard ivy]

you have to package it but at least you can send the canisters back on the same drone

[cedar patio]

hello

[fresh wharf]

Oh hey thats cool

[green fiber]

Very useful for Gas

[fresh wharf]

Usually I sink it

[fresh wharf]

Also, whats this rocket fuel stuff? Tier 9 or MAM?

Because I can't get the gas canisters it needs

[green fiber]

MAM

Tier 8 usually

[fresh wharf]

Alright

[hard ivy]

rocket fuel is MAM (sulfur tree) but needs empty tanks from tier 8

[lyric gyro]

Pmo

Collected every single somersloop just to get to 103

Which is enough for either 10 alien machines + cant use double on a manufacturer

Or 9 alien machines and can use x2 production on multiple

[hard ivy]

correct, total is 106, 3 needed for research, 103 left

[lyric gyro]

Yeah needed to pull out wiki to figure it out

Just one more somersloop would've been perfect

4 for x2, 100/10 for energy

[fossil zinc]

y'all i have an oil extractor overclocked at 250 to produce 600m3 of oil per minute

i then have a split of mk2 pipes leading into 2 industrial fluid buffers

they both say they're filling at 600m3 per minute which shouldnt be possible because that means its producing 1200m3 each minute

[green fiber]

Depends on how you connected the pipes

It may be one buffer filling into the other at 600/min

[fossil zinc]

ah

[green fiber]

Watch the drain rate on them

If drain rate on one of them is also 600 then they may just be filling each other

[fossil zinc]

they're connected to fluid freight

but the middle one has a drain rate of 1200 so i might just need to shove a valve on there

[green fiber]

Images would help.
#screenshots perhaps

[hard ivy]

Buffers reset head lift so you might need pumps rather than valves

[fossil zinc]

no headlift needed

[green fiber]

If one empties at 1200 that means both fluid connections are draining out of the buffer

So its being sucked dry from both ends

[fossil zinc]

yep i noticed

the freight is getting oil (yay) but the other buffers are as well (nay)

[green fiber]

Buffers connected in series have the problem that they dont reach equilibrium

You should only ever connect buffers in parallel

hmm well yeah i guess i can see why they did it.
If the valves are a recent addition, then it was because of the buffer level rising

[fossil zinc]

valves were a recent addon yes

[green fiber]

A pump or a valve on each input would do the trick

[fossil zinc]

figured as such

[green fiber]

Has to do with fluid levels and such

[fossil zinc]

water tower mechanics DO exist?

[green fiber]

A mk 2 split in 3 will only flow at 200/min each,
That means the pipe wants to be only 1/3rd full

But the buffer height is 12m max

[fossil zinc]

yeah i accounted for that

oop its sloshing now

[green fiber]

The buffer has a far greater fill height than the pipe in this case so fluid will try to flow back

[fossil zinc]

it'd be a shame if some mad man added valves to all of them

[green fiber]

I suggest you use pumps before each buffer

So the head lift is properly reset

[fossil zinc]

i can also let them fill no?

cant slosh if theres no place to do so :P

yeah no sloshing is the issue here

[hard ivy]

Buffers only provide head lift proportional to their fill level and only fill up to the head lift they receive. It's best to put a pump before and after the buffer - it makes sure it can be filled and emptied fully and prevents the buffer from emptying into the fill pipe and vice versa

Or you can also package the oil to skip this whole mess lol

[green fiber]

Valve prevents flowback, but the buffer still puts pressure on the valve output

Which can stop flow

[fossil zinc]

actually its less efficient

[hard ivy]

Actually it's more efficient

[rapid wren]

can biomass burners not charge batteries?

[fossil zinc]

only nitrogen is more efficient as it has a 4x compression ratio

[green fiber]

Its equally efficient

[fossil zinc]

with mk6 belts yes

[hard ivy]

If you load the empties back into the same wagons, and you use at least mk4 belts, it's more efficient

[wet dock]

Is there only 1 satisfactory map and all the locations you can start at are connected?

[mortal ginkgo]

yep

[fossil zinc]

yes

[wet dock]

ok good to know

btw if i want to move my factory because of the lack of ore nodes or what they are called, how should i go about transporting my items?

[fossil zinc]

every starting location should have more than enough for the basics

[wet dock]

i am way past the basics and i need more iron

i am in the first starting location

[mortal ginkgo]

Truck Stations, or maybe a bit long belts, whatever you fancy. Game got no dynamic dangers. What you do stays same.

[fossil zinc]

watch out for the boogey man

[wet dock]

is there anyway to tame lizarddoggo

[fossil zinc]

yep

[south sinew]

hmm, any suggestions for handling sinking in a vertical factory? I considered having each floor have its own sinks but that makes each floor really high because sinks are so tall.. and moving everything to the bottom kinda makes a mess of needing multiple sinks and then balancing the conveyors going to each sink

maybe I could do sinks shared between 2 floors

[fossil zinc]

they love a certain food, although they are a little shy @wet dock

[wet dock]

ok thanks

[shy mulch]

Do a kind of mezzanine style where you have 2 floors that don't cover the whole floor area, and a sink can sit in a high ceiling area. You don't need an entire floor to all be the same height

[frozen ingot]

i'm trying a speedrun except without the laser focus and plethora of tricks and tactics from the speedrunning community

[south sinew]

so a normal run then

[frozen ingot]

in my case it's more like zero work on aesthetics, trying to focus on efficiency and production

[frozen ingot]

nope, not for me 😄

it's tricky! especially not aesthetics. I usually build stuff with an eye for how i want the building/factory to look in the long run, which can take hours of extra planning lol

[fossil zinc]

im doing my best to work on aesthetics but its uh not working 💀

[shy mulch]

I don't have the focus for that, too easily distracted, weirdly I started a new save last night with a similar idea, don't give a f about aesthetics. Did a 7 hour session and only got as far as coal power haha

[frozen ingot]

nor me, i watch some of their videos and i'm like omg. I get dizzy from it almost. i couldn't keep that up for 8+ hours

i'm 9 hours in now, got my second bank of eight coal gens up, basically all tier 3/4 milestones done, just gotta automate mod frames and the project parts i think

already learned enough lessons that i kinda wanna try again lol, but i'll see how far i get

also not exploring as much as i usually would. I love exploring in this game! quite often i do it after setting up a new production line so i can give it time to produce the part and i galavant around hoovering up more spheres, sloops, and slugs 😄

[dense violet]

it's mostly practice, planning, and looking for inspiration.
but also much easier once you've unlolcked eveyrthing

[frozen ingot]

have you checked out #design-and-architecture for inspiration? it is amazing what some players come up with!

[fossil zinc]

i do often but i kinda suck at realizing the plans 💀

hardest part is hiding the resource acquisition

[south sinew]

the mezzanine level idea can sure work, although I sadly didn't quite leave enough space for it to look right, and also, I'm wondering about how many sinks I'm going to need

per mezzanine I mean

luckily I only did like 2 floors so far so if I have to move things around it's not the end of the world

[dense violet]

wdym?

belts and pipes coming in? make it a feature?

[last jungle]

doing some rudimentary calculations i found out a ceiling light is 1.5 foundations in length and width

[dense violet]

the dimensions are probably on the wiki

[last jungle]

guys why is it when i load a save theres 3 stacks of steel pipes in my depot

[fossil zinc]

a present from the boogeyman

[last jungle]

and theyre not ghost items if that can even happen here

i can take them out and i think theyre functional

[south sinew]

is there a reason there shouldn't be steel pipes in your depot?

[last jungle]

i never uploaded them there

i took them out

(when they were there when i loaded my save)

[tame vortex]

Why there's no voc on the server ?

[sharp sentinel]

Welp. One of my lizard doggos just phased into the ground while I was looking at him and doesn't seem to be coming back out.

[last jungle]

and then i load the save again and theyre back in the inventorys depot

[dense violet]

can't moderate.

[last jungle]

yea i just reloaded an autosave theyre back

[fossil zinc]

it went bankrupt in 1799

[last jungle]

the 443 steel pipes of 1987

they always come back

[sharp sentinel]

Phew. I reloaded my auto-save and it saved him.

[reef basin]

because they are impossible to moderate, they tried several times

[sweet linden]

hi all

[last jungle]

help

[kind obsidian]

Once way back in Update 2 it was glorious voice chat and then the vocal trolls ruined the happiness.

[last jungle]

im just gonna trash the pipes idk what to do with them

[hard ivy]

when you die with items in the upload field, they reappear upon save load. or something like that.

die without items in there and save to fix

[last jungle]

ok

[sweet linden]

i wanted to ask, whats the mod, i see a guy building wit concrete and the amount of the concrete decreases when building but instantly increasing to a certain amount, whats the mod for that?

[last jungle]

so i do the respawn in the menu and then save?

[last jungle]

i think hes using a depot

[hard ivy]

yeah. make sure you have keep inventory on, or do it near your hub

[last jungle]

is the concretes number background purple?

[sweet linden]

thats cool one

[sweet linden]

yeah

[last jungle]

ok so hes using a dimensional depot uploader

its in the "alien technology" tree in the MAM if u have that unlocked

[sweet linden]

but is that in the base game or it is a mod?

[hard ivy]

it's vanilla

[last jungle]

thats base game

YESS MY 443 STEEL PIPES ARE GONE

[sweet linden]

oh really? thanks a lot for the answer

[wet dock]

how do i get past the stupid poison flower

[sweet linden]

thanks guys

[hard ivy]

explosives, gas mask, healing items, or being fast

[last jungle]

bomb

[kind obsidian]

The flowers are creepier if you look into the flower they have eye balls

[cyan garnet]

Don’t sleep on MAM research. Dimensional Depot uploaders make your life much easier in the long run

[last jungle]

yes but my nobelisks and explosive rebar do not give a f***

[south sinew]

bombs are great

[sweet linden]

well yeah, nut im still a noobie, so, i would like to build those beautiful factories, but im a still a baby in the sandbox

[hard ivy]

probably?

I don't see why it couldn't

[last jungle]

the game is cooked

[hard ivy]

that's a dupe glitch, innit?

[last jungle]

shhh dont say that

[hard ivy]

you just have to kill yourself lol

[last jungle]

IJHUGVF

i just put a nobelisk by acceint

accident

luckily it cant blow buildings up

[kind obsidian]

After 7 years I dont even get upset by other peoples factory designs . Yeah there super cool , yes wish could build like that, no I cant , so I just do what I think looks best 🙂

[last jungle]

so im gonna try the sus glitch

[sweet linden]

any tips for a noobie like me, how to get those ficsit shreder tickets?

[hard ivy]

sink overflow from all your factories

[kind obsidian]

My first factory was a 70s Erector set this game in the digital masterpiece of that experience.

[sweet linden]

@hard ivy im early stage, so i dont have any overflows yet

[last jungle]

i setup the items and respawned then saved

i uh

i duped the items

[hard ivy]

then manually dump items from your chests into the sink every now and then

[sweet linden]

okay, thank you for the answer

[last jungle]

i duped some somersloops and stuff

[sweet linden]

it accepts somresloop?

[kind obsidian]

The crash sites litter can bring a lot of tickets but you should hold onto that litter which can be used to open 90% of the other crashed pods throughout the map.

[sweet linden]

@kind obsidian okay, ill try that, thank you

[last jungle]

i dont think that a dupe glitch is very good in this type of game

like very good for the games grindiness

[hard ivy]

It's the 3rd one since 1.0 lol

[pastel carbon]

Well yeah, the game's all about automation

Duping kinda sidesteps the game's gameplay

And besides, you don't need to dupe stuff if you really want free stuff, you can just use a save editor

[south sinew]

or AGS

[last jungle]

oh wait i forgot to die

[kind obsidian]

I play this to burn out then hop onto NMS and pop back when the urge returns . Ive logged so many hours Its silly .

[lost wagon]

Just go kill aliens, alien dna gives a lot of points for ticket early

[honest void]

Hello, I'm having a save issue. Would anyone know why my character and inventory aren't loading but my map is?

[last jungle]

ok so im not gonna use this its just plain unfun

[kind obsidian]

i thought the dupe glitch was rectified like several updates back

[last jungle]

was it the inventory one?

the one where u need the inventorys depot

[hard ivy]

like I said, this is the 3rd one. the other 2 were fixed

[kind obsidian]

only only i knew was the belts looped

leave it to bug hunters to find more

[last jungle]

did i "find" this dupe glitch or was it well known already

[hard ivy]

idk about "well" known, but yes, it is known

[last jungle]

ok

[cyan garnet]

You can’t sink Somersloops. But you wouldn’t want to anyways, they are far too valuable to sink. What they mean is using sloops to production amplify other resources to get more yield for sink points. For example: sloop remains, animal protein, and dna capsule production in a constructor to get 8x the capsule yield per remains

I usually keep a single free-standing constructor near my hub w a sloop loaded that I can use for quickly duping production such as power shards from slugs and dna capsules from remains

[sweet linden]

okay,thanks for the tip

[last jungle]

wait u can dupe shards?

[cyan garnet]

Sloop a constructor when processing power slugs

[last jungle]

oh ok

[cyan garnet]

You have to research and unlock production amplification in the MAM before you can do this

[dusk moon]

is there a list of best hard drives to get anywhere?

[hard ivy]

yes, all of them

[fast tendon]

Greetings Pioneers

[sweet linden]

@cyan garnet okay, thanks for the tip

[tranquil hemlock]

I can't unload and load from the same truck station, can I?

[maiden notch]

There's an interactable map you can find online that shows you where they're at and what you need to unlock them.

[tranquil hemlock]

Darn. Was hoping I could offload sulphur and pick up black powder from the same station. Oh well, no matter. My platform is big enough to do two stations lol

[eternal moat]

anyone got a clue why my conveyor lifts just stop working? especially in my coal generator setup, i get all of them filled up to 100, start it then coal jsut never goes back into them because for some reason the elevators jsut stop working

anyone got a good coal generator setup that works?

[maiden notch]

Are you supplying water to the coal generators?

[eternal moat]

yes

[maiden notch]

You have them attached to cables?

[eternal moat]

water isnt the problem, its the coal somehow getting stuck on the elevators

[cedar patio]

i normal go 3 water generators with 6 coal plants with a good coal import

[eternal moat]

i have 3 water, 8 coal

it should work

[maiden notch]

I recommend 4 water pumps with 8 coal generators to start out with.

[eternal moat]

but my problem is still the coal

coal isnt getting put back into the generators

[cedar patio]

for coal i have 2 normal mk 2 drills importing in but thats prob too much

[maiden notch]

Well my only answer for you is to redo your conveyor system

[eternal moat]

i have 2 mk2 aswell and theres so much coal but its still somehow not getting used

[cedar patio]

i'll send photo of mine gimme sec

[maiden notch]

8 coal generators need 120 coal per minute on a single line

[eternal moat]

i have double that

[maiden notch]

So you have a miner extracting 240 coal perminute?

[vestal mica]

do you have a mk1 belt mixed in somewhere that needs more than 60?

[hard ivy]

are the belts/lifts fast enough?

[eternal moat]

two mk2s extracting 120 each

[maiden notch]

ok... I'd just recommend you redoing your converyor system

[eternal moat]

literally re done it and still doesnt work

[maiden notch]

could be a visual bug tbh

[eternal moat]

its the elevator not working

[cedar patio]

can u send a photo?

[eternal moat]

i literally see the coal on the elevator and its not getting put into the generator

[maiden notch]

or record it

[cedar patio]

yeah

[maiden notch]

and the generator is running?

[eternal moat]

nope

[maiden notch]

Redo your conveyor system then

[vestal mica]

usually that means. 1. the lift isn't actually connected to the generator - it can look like it is but not be. 2. the generator doesn't have power hooked up

[maiden notch]

that includes the lifts

[cedar patio]

is your water reaching the plants and make sure your plants are wired to something

[maiden notch]

We really need a picture of this setup

[cedar patio]

REAL

[maiden notch]

or a recording of it

#screenshots

[eternal moat]

its connected, once i pick up 1 coal it starts working again then stops after the generator runs out again

[maiden notch]

put a picture in there

I'm running out of time. Get a picture of your setup

[vestal mica]

i don't know what "pick up one coal makes it work" means

[eternal moat]

once it does it again ill get a pic

[cedar patio]

i sent my plant in #screenshots

[maiden notch]

pretty good

[maiden notch]

No no no. We need a picture of your coal power plant setup

[eternal moat]

this generator is like the 6th in the line, the 7th and 8th is full so the 6th should be getting coal, right now i had 23 coal in the 6th generator with coal being clogged waiting to be sent into it but the elevator just somehow doesnt work

[maiden notch]

What belts are you using?

[eternal moat]

mk2

[maiden notch]

........Please take a picture of your setup

[eternal moat]

Sent in dms

[runic cairn]

Does this game only use CPU eCore?

[maiden notch]

That is not a picture of your setup. That is a tutorial video from Update 7.

[hard ivy]

also, send in #screenshots

[maiden notch]

Update 7 is almost 3 years old at this point

[dense violet]

post some images in #math-and-meta hard to trouble shoot without images

this is basically the only channel you can't post images in.

[maiden notch]

#screenshots message Horrifying. Just put the splitters on the lifts

They'll snap to it

[hard ivy]

post another pic with a belt in your hand

[eternal moat]

sent pic

[fickle mango]

is the bolted iron plate a recipe worth picking up early game?

[dense violet]

#math-and-meta

[cyan garnet]

make a thread in #1038092680493801533

or math-and-meta

[hard ivy]

it never is imo

[next umbra]

More screws = more no

[oak night]

finished the game for first time yesterday and im sitting here looking at the "start new game" button rn already

[sharp sentinel]

Me: I'm going to build a railway connecting the Grass Fields Crater with Beach islands.
Also me: Oops, made it go all the way to Rocky Desert.

[vestal mica]

those water extractors looking kind of red. coal is the issue?

[eternal moat]

yes

[fast tendon]

Nowhere

[vestal mica]

so is that screenshot when you had unhooked the water extractors from power?

for some reason?

[timid mesa]

Is it worth it to use somersloop to double my no waste uranium nuclear factory? My current setup make 15GJ

[eternal moat]

so, i set it up, let the system get filled up(every generator full with 100, even the conveyors were full) i start the system, it works, somehow while the generators are working, the coal isnt getting put back into them even tho it should

So they all eventually empty

[cyan garnet]

can we keep the troubleshooting of your issue contained to one channel please

or better yet a help thread

[hard ivy]

ok, 2 questions

have you updated the game since 1.0 released

are completely sure the belt doesn't have another item on it that is not coal

[thorn glade]

is console support being added soon? i just sold my PC cuz i only used it for satisfactory

[hard ivy]

devs said "this year"

[void gorge]

Not tomorrow

[vestal mica]

definitely soon™

[sharp sentinel]

What a sentence to read that is.

[vestal mica]

will it come out before gta6?

[stark solar]

Not sure there's much overlap between satisfactory players and gta-series players

[sharp sentinel]

It's a pipeline.

[void gorge]

Pretty sure GTA is gonna black hole the entire game's industry for a solid 2 months

[hard ivy]

not just the games industry lol

[void gorge]

Real

[sharp sentinel]

Release a Satisfactory update during it that just adds alternate transport vehicles for no reason.

[stark solar]

I doubt I'll ever buy GTA6. Didn't buy any of the previous. Just not interested.

[left totem]

like there isn't enough coal / min or it just gets clogged with another item ?

[void gorge]

Yo I'm considering leveling and TBC prepping in Classic Anniversary

Worth it?

[sharp sentinel]

I am so happy I got this alternate recipe to make just straight up fuel residue. Finna make so much powder.

[void gorge]

2019 was sick, world felt real fucking alive

Anyway !warn Mikael "Rules: please don't derail channels off-topic"

Yesyessorrysorry

Breh same, lasted for 10 years, FF for 7, I'm lost now

Maybe it's time I actually become productive

[stark solar]

Mikael: Is there a way to make the QA site:

1. A bit less negative - too many people are like "REJECTED OMG U SUCK" to any idea
2. Feel like less of a black hole - it's unclear if devs or CMs are actually looking at it

People enthused about RAIDing are really into hard drive configurations ^_^

[cedar patio]

Fun Fact! The dropship cutscene at the start of the game has different subtitles if in Australian English (I was so confused on my first launch lol)

[stark solar]

@cedar patio Does it have Slim Dusty sing Waltzing Matilda to bring you into the game?

[leaden turret]

1. prevent people from posting because it's the internet
2. link all the videos where the CMs answer that very question

[cedar patio]

no 😭

[stark solar]

Signpost: There are some people on the QA site, like Mafuta, where maybe just some CoffeeStain person regularly saying "chill, don't be so negative" might help them behave better.

[honest void]

Are certain alternate recipes in defined crash site's hard drive or are they random?

[stark solar]

Heimdall: They're random among the currently possible pool based on your tech prereqs

Heimdall: You won't get alt recipes for things you can't make yet

[sharp sentinel]

#screenshots message

Hm. Surely this is a coal plant dip, right?

[fast tendon]

Sorry I borrowed some power

[honest void]

I see. So if I want the aluminum recipes, I'll have to scan all the map's drives until I find the right ones

[stark solar]

Heimdall: Yeah, but you also might luck out

[fast tendon]

Do you know the technique about holding hard drives?

[honest void]

I don't think so?

[fast tendon]

If you get alts you don't want you just let them sit in the MAM

[stark solar]

Make sure you have the tech prereqs

[fast tendon]

They won't show up again

[honest void]

Oh yes I'm currently doing that for all that aren't aluminum related

[leaden turret]

that would require a fair bit of moderation workload

[fast tendon]

Ah good

Are you looking to be SLOPPY?

[honest void]

Yes and pure ingots too

[stark solar]

The key insight is the pool of possible alt recipes is diminished when a HD you have is offering you a choice. So if you don't pick either and just leave it, future HDs will have fewer things to choose from and are more likely to get you specific things you want.

[fast tendon]

Mhm

[timid mesa]

Took me 20 hard drive for those 2 + rescan

[stark solar]

You'll never have two uncashed HDs offering you overlapping possibilities.

So do not cash in HDs immediately!

[fast tendon]

I had a screenshot with the two worst alts in the game (biocoal and charcoal)

[honest void]

I forgot about rescan actually! Thanks for reminding me that

I currently still have 20 drives to scan, I'll be there for a while xD

[timid mesa]

Yup

[stark solar]

(I actually find biocoal and charcoal useful)

[fast tendon]

#screenshots message

[honest void]

If I hold all the HD and rescan all of them I should be able to get the two I want hopefully

[south sinew]

can you have a blueprint that autoconnects conveyor lifts vertically?

[stark solar]

Heimdall: Sure. Just don't cash in early and you'll do better than you otherwise would

[honest void]

In the end when we have scanned all the map's HD, do we have all the recipes?

[timid mesa]

Yeah and over in HD

There is more HD than recipe

[hard ivy]

yes. and there's like 5 more drives than recipes

[fast tendon]

Sometimes you get inventory slots

[honest void]

Oh okay, they're for MAM research I'm guessing

[timid mesa]

I think you can buy them later for 100 tickets

[fast tendon]

And that, but also you can buy them yes

[south sinew]

yeah, you can get a couple bonuses like inventory slots, and you can spend them in MAM research

[stark solar]

There are 4 or 5 MAM research slots I think that need a HD

[fast tendon]

All the alt fuels need them

[stark solar]

And rocket fuel is so awesome that you can ride it to endgame if you want.

[timid mesa]

What is the best use of somersloop energy vs duplication?

I feel like duplicate is broken compare to energy

[honest void]

I'm currently trying to setup aluminum to get rocket fuel

[stark solar]

sweetcookie: I always keep a container->constructor->container in my main base, slooped, for flexible 1-unit conversion, like slugs, or in two steps corpses to DNA capsules.

[honest void]

Oh wait it has nothing to do with aluminum

[sharp sentinel]

I wish they'd add the music from the 1.0 trailer to the Boombox. I'd listen to it on perma-repeat.

[stark solar]

You need aluminium to unlock rocket fuel ; there are none of those aluminium gas containers in the world in crashes

[timid mesa]

I never made turbo fuel factory before

[fast tendon]

You need the fluid containers but otherwise nah

[timid mesa]

I usually go coal oil then nuclear

[fast tendon]

Nuclear feels like a hassle to me

Yes I would rather build 8965322 fuel gens

[stark solar]

Heimdall: When you're setting it all up, remember that rocket fuel is a gas, so you can make your array of rocket fuel burning power plants vertical without worrying about pumping it up

[honest void]

Turbofuel is used for rocket fuel for the jetpack I guess?

[timid mesa]

I mean the factory does take some place

[honest void]

That's nice to know, thanks

[fast tendon]

Unless you get an alternative yes

There's an alt for fuel to rocket fuel

[honest void]

Oh, then turbo fuel becomes kinda useless?

[stark solar]

Nitro Rocket Fuel alt-recipe is great

[fast tendon]

Ehh, i suppose

[hard ivy]

Always has been

[fast tendon]

Ionized fuel is a bit of a joke

[south sinew]

you probably need to use a bit of Turbofuel production to consume the compacted coal byproduct of rocket fuel production

[stark solar]

CoffeeStain really needs to fix ionized fuel

[hard ivy]

More than a bit

[fast tendon]

Power shards for slightly better rocket fuel

[stark solar]

It's a net power loss

[south sinew]

synthetic power shard is not cheap so IMO one shard for just 16 fuel is not super appealing

[hard ivy]

It needs to have a burn rate of 1-1.5/min, not 3

[stark solar]

Puppy: Not just unappealing; it's literally a loss.

[fast tendon]

I was hoping ion fuel in a jetpack would launch me to the stratosphere

[dense violet]

anything you automate is free, not sure why it's 'expensive'

[stark solar]

Cobalt: The resouce cost, plus the fact that you get less power out of it than you put in

[south sinew]

yeah, the power cost, construction cost of those facilities, extra complexity, and the resource cost per shard and then you just don't get that much out of each shard

[dense violet]

?? you get to over clock as much as you like

[south sinew]

not if you're using it for ionised fuel

[hard ivy]

You haven't done the math, have you?

[south sinew]

don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing against synthetic power shard if you want power shards for actually building with

[stark solar]

Over or underclock, you still put more energy into converting it into ionized fuel than you get out of burning the ionized fuel in the plant over rocket fuel

[south sinew]

I'm arguing against it for use in making ionised fuel

[reef basin]

no, since batteries are not chargeable

[reef basin]

making a thing that gives you permanent bonus and can't be made any other way (except found), what math is there to do?

[bitter lodge]

what is a good HMF alt recipe ._.?

[reef basin]

any that you like

[hard ivy]

heavy encased frame

[hard ivy]

nah, with underclocking you can be net positive. but with everything at 100%, you lose at least 75 MW on the conversion for every GW you could've gotten from the rocket fuel.

to be net 0 on the conversion, everything (or at least the power hungry machines) need to be underclocked to about 50%

[bitter lodge]

omg ya.

comparing it to the default, so much better

[arctic fable]

@void gorge Satisfactory on Console (PS5) - Q3 possible? must apply for vacation early😬

[bitter lodge]

just gotta get it now

[reef basin]

well that's for sinking shards, not for power

[sharp sentinel]

Troubleshooting the big rail network I made, and it's unreal how many 1 foot gaps I somehow made.

[reef basin]

it's even more unreal when you realise game measures in meters 😛

[fast tendon]

Measure in meters and use American spellings? FICSIT must be Canadian

[leaden turret]

NASA uses metric

[sharp sentinel]

There's actually a setting to swap from metric to imperial. I haven't bothered with it.

[leaden turret]

space is metric 😛

[stark solar]

Space is parsec

[leaden turret]

google says parsec is metric

[stark solar]

KYO: Does slooping ionized fuel make it not net-power-negative?

Not sure it'd help, but I haven't done the maths on that

[oblique aspen]

Until you use some space contractor that disagrees and your thing burns up

[hard ivy]

the last step is made in refineries, so yes; they're cheap to sloop

[stark solar]

KYO: Yes, but does it actually rescue ionized fuel from net-power-negativity or not?

[fast tendon]

I think just should be able to sloop packagers and make containers out of thin air

[stark solar]

Sorry, I shouldn't be asking other people; I should just go do the maths myself.

[hard ivy]

without sloops it's just barely net negative, so with double the output, it should be positive

[stark solar]

Interesting. I still can't imagine this is the intent for Ionized Fuel though.

Hoping they rebalance it.

[hard ivy]

1200/min Ionized takes 33 GW to make (from rocket fuel), and burns for 100 GW. 67 GW net.

It takes 1200 rocket to make, which can be burned 72 GW

So you lose 5 GW

with double the output, you're 200 GW gross, and still costs about 33 GW, so 167 net

[bitter lodge]

you are good luck charm, the first hard drive I researched gave me the recipe :>

[fast tendon]

I would hope nuclear power is looked at too because going all the way to Ficsonium is barely worth it, I often just turn the waste into Plutonium rods and sink them

[leaden turret]

dachte: wondering if you know how to use the discord reply feature

[stark solar]

Signpost: I know how, but I'm old enough to have used IRC and prefer to just type rather than click or fiddle with menus.

[sharp sentinel]

Amusingly enough, on PC you can hover over a message and it's right there. Barely any clicking involved.

[stark solar]

Cthulhu: Sure, but with this I don't touch the mouse, I just type.

[shy mulch]

But that takes 24 sloops. Use those sloops to make 2 alien power augmenters instead and add that into your comparison

[bitter lodge]

you could type the @ symbol then name?

[leaden turret]

shift-tab

[stark solar]

I am not interested in changing my habits on this matter.

[sharp sentinel]

I can't imagine not keeping my hand on my mouse.

[leaden turret]

place mouse on ground.

use foot.

[green fiber]

I like being chaotic and just shouting into the room and expect the right person to feel adressed

[hard ivy]

then you get +20% instead of double?

[leaden turret]

"hey pipe manual dude: [random pipe question]"

[shy mulch]

+20% of your entire production

[hard ivy]

yes, obviously. so it depends on the rest of your production

[stark solar]

I chat on slack, on IRC, occasionally on discord, on other places. I don't want to need to use it differently based on what window I'm typing in

[leaden turret]

pretty sure shift tab works across platforms

[stark solar]

IRC is very old school

[vagrant oar]

hey nerds drop me a blueprint for all the things required to progress

[vagrant oar]

IRCs are cool

[green fiber]

i will now instead steal all your blueprints

They are mine

You cant have em back

[stark solar]

Oof there are few things like investigating poor speed from one of your early factories and finding you still have a mark 1 belt in a few places

[void gorge]

We could def mod it a bit better

We are def reading every ticket, replying to em all ain't realistic

[hard ivy]

could add tags like github. fixed/won't fix/in progress/maybe, etc

[stark solar]

Mikael: Maybe just keep an eye on people who are always very negative and gently nudge them to cut it out

[void gorge]

Why gently?

:]

[stark solar]

I used to be a mod for an MMO; better to nudge people and ideally get them to stick around rather than apply a banhammer

Or risk them storming off.

[bitter lodge]

curious question, when you guys build factories. do you try to keep them all on the same veritical level, or do you go uppies?

[stark solar]

Azana: I've done both; both are viable. Really just an organisational question

Azana: In relatively small factories, it can be pretty cool to have each duplicated machine (same recipe, same components) stacked vertically so you can use belt elevators to feed them all in a very tidy way

[bitter lodge]

yaaaaa

I am making a factory for HMF alone. 9/min

[stark solar]

In larger factories I didn't do that, and tended to stick all 1-input machines on a 1-input floor, 2-input machines on a 2-input floor, 3-4 on a 3-4 input floor with logistics floors in between

[bitter lodge]

so I was thinking of doing more uppies this time around

[stark solar]

But my design there would not mesh well with sticking duplicate machines all above each other.

Lots of viable designs

[bitter lodge]

I am more so thinking pretty designs as well

but I keep having the intention of tearing these factories down sooner rather than later

cause lack of higher logistics, and miners.

[stark solar]

It can help if you know you want to keep the frame of a factory but would replace its guts. Or build more factories rather than make them bigger.

OTOH, it can be fun to tear stuff down and replace it too.

[bitter lodge]

Im entirely tearing these down

because its gonna be a massive upsizing

[stark solar]

I hope they add a hotkey to get into the DD upload area before they release on console; scrolling to get there is one of the most painful parts of playing with controller right now. Once you have enough stuff in there that scrolling takes 40 seconds, I mean

[cyan garnet]

SF is a 3d game. Being able to build vertical is very much one of the more flexible things you can do. I like using floors to go up in “tiers” of production. Smelters on floor one, constructors on floor two, etc

[stark solar]

bones: Kinda like what I described above. Cool to hear of others doing it.

There are a few instances where a 3-4 piece part leads to a 2-piece part, but not many

Kinda sad when it's time to tear down the last primitive factory (the kind you build early in the game with no floors, just machines on the ground with crazy belts between).

[bitter lodge]

ya same!

I like the way it looks but I want to built like a super massive factory way later down the road where I got like 100s of each machine on each floor :>

[stark solar]

Azana: Where you building?

My main base tends to be somewhere around (2645, -1575) - I like that area. Every game so far I've gravitated towards there.

[bitter lodge]

uhhhh

ima screenshot

building over that water spot cause I did oil production of rubber and plastic there, my computers as well.

[sharp sentinel]

I am progressing way slower than I have before insofar as elevator phases, but I've managed to setup so much more stuff and cut out so much handcrafting that I was doing in previous saves.

[stark solar]

(540, -2000) is another good spot for a main base, although it's a hike to get there from any of the starter zones.

It'd actually be cute to expand the choice of starter areas with areas FIXIT does not recommend, like the swamp.

[sweet linden]

where can i find that dmo ore??

[cyan garnet]

I don’t really have a “main base” - my hub is still at my spawn/starter location in northern forest. Space elevator is down on the river delta. Portal network hub is at the waterfall underneath crater lakes

[hard ivy]

dmo?

[sweet linden]

this thing

[cyan garnet]

You can’t post screenshots here

[sweet linden]

that sucks

[cyan garnet]

Make a thread #1038092680493801533

[sweet linden]

this violet ore thingy

[hard ivy]

SAM? or Quartz?

[sweet linden]

for the alien technology

SAM

[hard ivy]

there's 2 dozen or so nodes on the map

mostly in inconvenient places

like caves or mountains

[sharp sentinel]

#screenshots message

IMHO, this is the best place to setup a first base for rapid progression. I never do, but I always think it would be.

[stark solar]

Blue crater is a solid base location.

[cyan garnet]

Do you want a hint on where to look? What biome are you in?

[honest void]

Is there a way to automate biomass production?

[stark solar]

No.

[cyan garnet]

No. Get to phase 2 and coal power

[sweet linden]

i found the interactive map on google

[hard ivy]

kinda. wood/leaves/remains still need to be collected manually. but after that, it can be automated

[honest void]

Power isn't the problem, I'm on tier 8 and want to automate filters for the hazmat suit

[stark solar]

But you should be looking to outgrow biomass fairly early in the game. Eventually biomass will be just what you toss down to open crash sites or do some quick one-time work.

Heimdall: Ah, look into the alt recipes for filters

[cyan garnet]

Oh, fabric? Get the polymer fabric alt, in the MAM

[honest void]

Oh okay, perfect thanks

[stark solar]

It is a joyous occasion when you've automated both kinds of filters into a DD and never really need to think about poison gas or radiation again

As great as when you get the rollerblade things, or the parachute

[untold ember]

is there any way to get rollup doors to....roll up?

[broken thorn]

Thanks, I love these super compact blueprints

Makes my life way easier

I placed 360 fuel generators within a small area 8x24 or smth foundations

All overclocked

[stark solar]

Vertically stacked, or just literally overlapping each other?

[broken thorn]

Vertically stacked

Each blueprint has 2 rows of 30 overclocked generators stacked on top of each other overclocked

Let me try to find it

[rapid wren]

it's crazy how much coal phase 5 need

[stark solar]

CapeDil: I don't need a copy, was just curious.

[broken thorn]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/blueprints/index/details/id/8707/name/Ultracompact+Generator+Block+for+600%2Fmin+Rocket+Fuel+(36GW)

[rapid wren]

without the 8 sloops i would have needed 1440 coal per min...

[mortal ginkgo]

is that alot?

fully clocked mk3 miner would give 1200

[stark solar]

1440 coal can be annoying to get depending on what stage of the game you're in

[mortal ginkgo]

D:

[stark solar]

I don't think the alt recipe is more efficient, but I always go with Nitro Rocket Fuel because it's easier to manage than the other ways to get there.

Weird; do storage containers transport goods from one end to the other instantly? I think they're faster than belts.

[vestal mica]

they are also mk infinity

[jade glade]

I have a problem with trucks. They should work well, I planned their refuel and everything, but sometimes they just randomly run out of fuel. The only thing I can think of is that some vehicle has been refueled a moment earlier, which could caused a short shortage of fuel, but it still shoudnt be an issue I have like 3 trucks max

[vestal mica]

too bad you can't hook them up directly to each other

[reef basin]

"efficient" always depends on what do you define as "efficient" 🙂

[sterile blade]

Lifehacks that Ficsit don't want you to know:

[stark solar]

It'd be pretty horrible to build enough to span the map, but I guess a chain of them linked minimally with the best belts you have would be faster than the pure belt solution

krumps: As a dinosaur, is stomping on things the best part of your day indeed?

[vestal mica]

well, the initial item getting to the end would be faster but that's rarely important the throughput would still be belt throughput right

[mortal ginkgo]

Trucks shouldn't request a stack of fuel unless they are going from one end of the map to another with coal.

[vestal mica]

this one little lady i stomp on like 3 times a week

[naive mesa]

Hi im new to satisfactory and i want somone to have fun with and teach me to a little

[mortal ginkgo]

#1201555265942724758

[sterile blade]

Do items (ideally) go from A to B faster using belts or long range transport?
I'm thinking drones can beat belts, but I'm unsure about trains given their docking and loading/unloading times...

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758
though generally I'd suggest playing on your own first

[stark solar]

Liam: I wrote a little guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/189bm7cFJh2cZW2dJ6YBJx6lnI1tuHINnY_7Ng9ElIUI/

[jade glade]

why? I dont use coal but regular fuel. How can I fix it?

[naive mesa]

i have like 15 hous on the game

hours

[reef basin]

yeah, and the game does a good job of teaching you 🙂 and you learn on your own, rather than have someone else's point of view forced upon you by following tutorials and/or videos

[mortal ginkgo]

why..? I dont know what are you asking why for. Trucks dont ask much fuel. So make sure at least one truck station they arrive have fuel

[jade glade]

its almost guaranteed, there is only one case in which they could get fuel shortage(if other truck docks right before them), but they use ~10 fuel per trip so it still wouldnt be an issue

[viral tendon]

I recently unlocked logistics mk 5 and conveyors mk 5 are life savers, now i can fully overclock miners on pure nods

[hard ivy]

put a container before the fuel input

[jade glade]

okay thanks

[hard ivy]

if that doesn't fix it, there's probably another issue. a container should top up the fuel at full belt speed

if the container doesn't fill up. your fuel production is too slow

[undone yarrow]

Random desire: the ability to swap the hub bio gens to little greenhouses so biomass for jump pads, chainsaw fuel and jetpack fuel can be properly automated as well as inhalers.

The fewest items required would mycelia and Paleberries

[mortal ginkgo]

Ficsit is here to exploit. Not play Stardew Valley