satisfactory

[craggy mica]

Im trying to feed the thirst of the coal generators

[fluid sapphire]

Mk1 pipe has capacity of 300 m3/s

[craggy mica]

So it can only bring 300m3/s at once?

[fluid sapphire]

A single pipe, yes

[craggy mica]

I have 13 coal gens

[fluid sapphire]

Crunch the numbers, how much water do they need in total, divide by 300

[craggy mica]

The thing is i have only one lane but the ones near the end is not receiving water, so should i have more extractors or more pipes

[fluid sapphire]

Well, 13 generators require 585 m3 water

If you feed half of that on either end, you should be ok

[open tree]

+/- if theres a OC on it

[fluid sapphire]

Well, yes, I am assuming they are working at 100% since they did not specify

[craggy mica]

Wait does power slugs respawn

[white dawn]

They're not supposed to, no. It's not unheard of that the game glitches out slightly and doesn't "remember" that you've harvested one, which could result in a respawn, though that's pretty rare

In the past, various map updates have caused slugs to respawn too, though I believe they've fixed that up now. (Also map updates are far less likely nowadays)

You can get infinite slugs by ||taming lizard doggos||, though there's manual work involved there

And very late in the game you can fully automate power shard production

[fluid sapphire]

There was a patch at one point which had the side effect of resetting all slugs, sloops and spheres

[white dawn]

Yeah, during EA that wasn't uncommon at all; they just apparently didn't end up getting a fix for it in time for 1.0, so a post-1.0 update ended up triggering it. :D

Theoretically fixed up now for future updates, though

[rare thunder]

how do i open the camera mode

[celest lichen]

p

[keen marsh]

Does anybody have a very quick method to getting tickets?

[white dawn]

I recommend the AWESOME Sink.

[celest lichen]

how far into the game are you

[white dawn]

Though really: just sink literally everything you produce

Have something going into storage? Set up a Smart Splitter in front of it and send its overflow to a Sink

Once your storage fills up, 100% of that production starts producing coupons for you

[keen marsh]

I have that but storage is taking years to fill up

[keen marsh]

mid steel

[celest lichen]

either get priority spliitters asap or unlock somersloop productivity early to quadruple animal remains

[white dawn]

It'll fill eventually. :) Can always beef up your production if you want it to fill faster

[celest lichen]

some creash sites have the materials you need for unlocking the latter early, requires a bit of exploration tho

[white dawn]

Could rig up some splitters/mergers to, like, always sink 25% of your production or something, if you want. But I always just wait for storage to fill up

[keen marsh]

the current things im producing dont give many points

[white dawn]

Maybe not, but it all adds up

[open tree]

1pt/minute is > 0 pt/min

[white dawn]

And remember that if you have this set up for literally everything you produce, it's gonna start snowballing sooner or later

And then all the time that you're building factories, or out exploring, or doing whatever, you've got your entire production chain making coupons for you

If you do want to specifically look for high-point-value things to sink, of course, the wiki has the complete point list

!wikisearch awesome+sink

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=awesome+sink

[white dawn]

But I'd still recommend not bothering to specifically set up stuff to sink. Just sink literally everything; you'll be drowning in coupons before too long

[hard ivy]

Yeah, you need a dedicated sink factory only if you want the golden nut in less than 1k hours

[open tree]

are the elevators capped at 196m?

(200m to the roof)

[hard ivy]

Unfortunately

[open tree]

so unlike ladders, you cant just build a second set directly on top to link?

ugh. my floors were slightly misaligned between two different build sections. now i have to rebuild EVERYTHING to get teh elevator to link right.

[fiery garden]

you can build another elevator on top but the total length after stacking them has a limit

[primal haven]

can you just stagger elevators and keep going up?

[open tree]

ive been planning on a rebuild/clean up for an main/everything factory anyway. just havent had motivation lmao

[fiery garden]

yeah but that's just making more elevators. it's not really the same

[keen hawk]

No one warned me setting up aluminium production was a full time job

I need this mk3 miner asap 💔

[primal haven]

I think people use SCIM for that, but I ended up just dismantling it all by hand and sinking it all in my first save

[open tree]

it took me 4+ play sessions to set up aluminum. 1 to find it, 1 to start the foundations, 1 to set up all the fabrication equipment, and 1 to bring hte coal to the facility and export everything to main base

im not happy with it, but its functional.

[keen hawk]

I have somersloop and 250% overclock on my mk2

[open tree]

i planned for that and i have my waste water recirculating.

[keen hawk]

Managed to find both sloppy solution and pure alum ingots at least

Now i need to set up dimensional depot and go spelunk for more sulfur

[white dawn]

There were some bugs like that in the past, but I'd thought those were taken care of some time ago

(which isn't to say there can't be new bugs, of course)

[open tree]

sink the overflow?

[dawn frost]

don't know whose idea at CS it was to make it possible to bunnyhop at basically unlimited speeds but i want to kiss them this makes me so happy

[open tree]

each floor stop needs electirc?!

[hard ivy]

Just one

[open tree]

oh thank god.

[hard ivy]

The rest will get powered so you don't need poles between floors

[rare thunder]

why do train stations have to be so big bruh

[fiery garden]

this is an old bug that they accidentally fixed and then deliberately reimplemented

[dawn frost]

humongous W

[fiery garden]

from the makers of goat simulator

[hard ivy]

Because trains are big

[rare thunder]

idk if this is a bug but if i cant build a station somewhere if i lock it with H now i can

[hard ivy]

Same with a lot of other stuff. Prolly a bug

[rare thunder]

yeah but i usually dont need to unload on both sides

[open tree]

so glad i remembered i could make blueprints for floors so i can make 25 at a time instead of 10

i only have mk2 blueprinter.

[fiery garden]

new game+

[open tree]

too tall?

[gaunt gyro]

I really wish there was a train station condition to "shut off" requests when the station is full. As it stands I have trains where input and output are both backed up and it's going back and forth doing nothing lol

I guess I could set the import station to wait a really long time or until the car is empty, but if I ever send another train there it'll get stuck waiting lol

[hard ivy]

Set it to only depart when empty/full

[open tree]

can i have an elevator floor stop face more than one direction at a time?

ADA-compliant though

[fiery garden]

you could probly just turn it sideways so you can access the same door from both sides

[open tree]

i was hoping i could use the elevator as a "vestibule" / "airlock"

[fiery garden]

u-jelly on the ceiling maybe?

[rare thunder]

DEVS
ADD VERTICAL NUDGE FOR RAILS AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[open tree]

Page Up/Dwn?

[rare thunder]

ye

[hard ivy]

There isn't already?

[fiery garden]

i dont think rails are nudgeable

[rare thunder]

nop

[gaunt gyro]

Yeah I thought that too, but I guess the "downside" there is I can only really send one train to that station. If another one tries to go there while one is waiting to unload it'd back up the track

[open tree]

sad. same with the conveyors and pipes

[rare thunder]

diddy ahh rails 💔

[hard ivy]

If the previous train is still unloading, you don't need a second train to also unload the same stuff?

Just add a waiting bay so it doesn't cause deadlocks

[gaunt gyro]

Yeah I just mean thte second train wouldn't know the first one is still unloading

[azure cape]

hi guys! i just have a question about planning factories. Im working on a steel factory rn and am a little lost on how to plan how many resources ill need. Like how do you guys figure out how many constructors for each final product you want or need? do you just base it off of the nodes nearby?

[hard ivy]

It'll just queue behind it and wait until it's unloaded

[open tree]

you could, but you can bring the resources from farther away too if needed.

[elder apex]

well, that is kinda the point of the mk1 blueprint designer, to blueprint things into a small space. Not sure how you can complain about something not fitting into a small space when you don't want it to fit into a small space to begin with

[hard ivy]

I estimate how much I'll need and build that

[azure cape]

okay

[glossy sundial]

can those bean-giraffes be killed?

are they just unreasonably tanky?

[fathom shuttle]

I’m gonna cry

Hoverpacks are so amazing

[fathom shuttle]

Yea

They don’t drop anything unfortunately

[hard ivy]

Yes. But they have like 200 HP

And they respawn

[open tree]

couple of shatter rebars works. or hit them a bunch with the xenoblade

[fathom shuttle]

I remember beating them up for a good minute before they died

[glossy sundial]

i'm still earlygame so i can't kill them ig

[fathom shuttle]

You can it just takes a long time

Theyre pretty annoying when building, and they get stuck often

[glossy sundial]

maybe i should speedrun for jetpack

[fathom shuttle]

Do you have blade runners yet

[glossy sundial]

no

[fiery garden]

when they get in the way i just slap them once to make them run away. theyre not worth my time

[hard ivy]

If you do, get Liquid Biofuel too

[glossy sundial]

should i just automate everything?

[fiery garden]

yes

[hard ivy]

Almost everything is used for building so yes

[fathom shuttle]

Try to find the lizard doggo cave it has blade runners you can get, unless you have then unlocked in that case craft them

[fiery garden]

each time you unlock a new part, build at least 1 machine connected to a storage container. you will appreciate having some of them on hand when you need to build or unlock new stuff

[fathom shuttle]

Biofuel is a life saver. It’s so easy to make a bunch of too, just gather some wood and leaves then sloop them into 6k solid biofuel then forget about jetpack fuel

You can also set up a dimensional depot for the biofuel

[mortal ginkgo]

you can turn monsters to biofuel as well, hardly takes time

1 corpse can give 100 biomass

[fiery garden]

i had a storage container full of alien protein at one point lmao

[fathom shuttle]

1 animal remain gives you 6k solid biofuel lol

[open tree]

how many sloops did that take?

[fathom shuttle]

I’m building up a storage container full of dna capsules too

[fiery garden]

i planned to use it to fuel a big truck network but i had so much biofuel from leaves and wood that i just turned it all into those research capsules for the sink

[mortal ginkgo]

I assume so if you sloop it all yep

[fathom shuttle]

4 at each step

[hard ivy]

1 remains can give you 533 PLBF if every step is slooped

[tribal arch]

I have loads of desyncs + crashes + disconnects + inability to change path / general position lags in tubes since the latest updates. Where can I report this?

[fiery garden]

ppl talk about speed running to hoverpack or blueprinter. i speed run to xeno basher

keeps your save file small too

[fathom shuttle]

Tbh I wouldn’t fight animals without a jetpack and rifle

[hard ivy]

the basic tier ones are easy with just a basher and runners

[sweet patio]

Do you guys actually search somersloop and other thing in map and use without cheating? I didn't even do once after 1.0 came

[fathom shuttle]

I need the achievements first

[sweet patio]

Oh ok

Acceptable

[mortal ginkgo]

I like looking for them because map is hand crafted. I like seeing the sceneries but this is my first time so maybe someone who played for 69k+ hours not going for them and I get that

[fathom shuttle]

Plus it’s kind of unnecessary to cheat since you have like 4k powershards naturally and you can make a lot of them late game

[azure cape]

okay yall i got another question, how do i manage to split my steel beams into 18/min for encased beams? i figured i would need 3 steel beam constructors because the gcf of 15 and 18 is 3 but idk if thats how that works

[fathom shuttle]

For Mercer spheres you have too many, sloops too unless you plan on using 20 APA

[hard ivy]

why would you cheat that

cheating sloops at least makes sense

[fiery garden]

only cheat i accept is loading blueprints from another save

[fathom shuttle]

Houston we have a problem

[mortal ginkgo]

make a bigger factory then lol

[fathom shuttle]

I forgot the encased industrial beams at the chest

[hard ivy]

I got 2 while building a nuke plant

literally no waiting

[sweet patio]

I started this new series without cheat, takes a long time to just pass phase 2,lol

[red linden]

is it possible to change game rules after I already started playing or do I need a new save?

[worldly stump]

make even a bigger factory then

[rare thunder]

i really feel like trains need a buff they take up a ton of room theyre insanely tiresome to build and theyre barely carry better than a belt

[hard ivy]

you can turn on AGS from the load menu any time

[bright anchor]

are there and tutorials for the game? Please don't say just build stuff T_T

[red linden]

gotcha

[worldly stump]

then you are playing the wrong game man

[fiery garden]

i've never messed with game rules but im pretty sure you can. but if you turn them back to default after, the save will still be marked as having used custom game rules

[rare thunder]

why not build stuff tho

[red linden]

yep yep, I get that vash

[worldly stump]

satisfactory literally is meant for making giant factories and stuff, along the exploration stuff that helps you

[hard ivy]

you can't turn off AGS without loading a previous file if at all

[rare thunder]

satisfactory is worse factorio the only reason to play it instead is architecture tbh

[mortal ginkgo]

Tier 0 stuff (aka beginning of the game) is the tutorial. Other Milestone Tasks are there for you to learn and do things in a slow manner.

[bright anchor]

I don't like being so clueless- I wanna get to the calculation stuff + that long monster thingy just always gets between my machines

[red linden]

I might just duplicate the save folder, use one for AGS, the og for non-ags

[fiery garden]

but you can have AGS on with everything set to default so it's the same experience as having AGS off but it's technically still on

[worldly stump]

I got bored o factorio in the first hour so idk

[bright anchor]

And graphics. Some don't like the 2D

[rare thunder]

as long as youre producing what you need for the next phase youre playing it right

[rare thunder]

filtered

[red linden]

both satisfactory and factorio have their ups and downs

[bright anchor]

hm?

[mortal ginkgo]

I could play Factorio if it had more technological look on it (like DSP).

[rare thunder]

cant think of a factorio down

[mortal ginkgo]

But "not using verticality" just feels meh to me.

I don't think I can handle belt sphaget

[hard ivy]

finite resources, enemies. I hate both

[rare thunder]

resources are infinite and you can turn off enemies

[hard ivy]

and spoilage

[rare thunder]

skill issue 😭

[bright anchor]

Even if it takes a large area and takes ages? + how do I automate the fuel-

[red linden]

"cant think of factorio down" says a man who will change the default settings to own the haturz

[rare thunder]

i really like the enemies

theyre another thing to sink resouces into and the combat is fun

• they scale

[mortal ginkgo]

I wish game had more than "I detect you I attack you in bulk yolo" guys gameplay but at that point game wouldn't be a pure factory game I guess.

[open tree]

is there a way to make a wall section cut the corner and be 45deg off the foundation?

[rare thunder]

if youre still at biofuel youll unlock an alternative soon

[fresh wharf]

Hello, how do I check satisfactory screenshots?

[bright anchor]

Oh alr

[rare thunder]

a large area is part of it but you can build floors too

[fresh wharf]

Thanks

[rare thunder]

you either use a large area or wait a long time

and in factory games you should usually scale up

does the game have round corners

too lazy to check

[rare thunder]

not for floors i mean 3d

im gonna start a new world, wondering which starting area to pick

[white dawn]

Can't you unlock turbofuel basically at the exact same time as regular Fuel?

Oh, need packaging, I suppose, which is a bit later

[rancid hearth]

How do you dump excess water produced by factories ? Bottle it up and sink ?

[hard ivy]

Put it back in

[fiery garden]

use it to make something else

[mortal ginkgo]

curious, cant we just yolo for packaging? I am not that deep into the game yet but I kinda dont wanna use the "fuel" in common

[white dawn]

I always use it as part of the process which created it in the first place. Though instead of literally merging the "fresh" and "recycled" pipes, I use a separate bank of machines for each, underclocked where appropriate

[fathom shuttle]

#screenshots how should I organize this? It’s a train station for my bauxite

[white dawn]

Not sure what you mean, but you'll get to that stuff eventually. :)

[solar aspen]

if one manufacturer makes uranium fuel rod 0.4 per min, that means that he can fuel 2 power plants that need 0.2 ranium fuel rod per min?

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, the first fuel is named "fuel" no?

than comes turbo fuel

[fiery garden]

the first fuel is leaves lol

[mortal ginkgo]

brotherman...

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/codex/items/fuel

[white dawn]

Yep, "Fuel" is the name of a substance you can make from oil. :)

[rancid hearth]

If I do that, won't I have the risk to have too much water in my loop and thus won't be able to evacuate it anymore ?

[mortal ginkgo]

Ya, I was wondering if I could just yolo to Turbofuel since it asks only compacted coal

[white dawn]

That's why I use separate banks of machines -- so long as the numbers match up, you should never have problems

[fiery garden]

yes, this is why i dont recommend it for new players. you should instead use the water byproduct to make something different or use it in a separate pipe manifold for other machines

[white dawn]

2 of the 3 Turbofuel recipes require Fuel as an ingredient. One recipe does let you use HOR instead, skipping the fuel step

[fathom shuttle]

What do I press for infinite nudges ? I forgot

[hard ivy]

Except turbo heavy fuel is a shit recipe lol

[mortal ginkgo]

very cool, thanks!

[white dawn]

For instance, this is part of a small vanilla-recipe aluminum setup. 2x Refineries taking fresh water, 1x using only recycled: #math-and-meta message

[fiery garden]

wet concrete is good for consuming lots of water that you need to get rid of

[white dawn]

You do need to get the clocking right so that the machines taking recycled liquid are using exactly as much as being produced, but so long as the numbers are right, you're golden

The only real caveat is that I'd recommend flooding the "recycled" pipe with liquid before starting the system up, so that it starts off at 100% efficiency

(then, I recommend pre-flooding pipes in general)

[fathom shuttle]

Yea but how do I get more nudging

[wise junco]

hewwo

[fathom shuttle]

Yea

Is this the max nudge I can’t get?

[wise junco]

infinite nudge is now part of the base game in 1.1

[fathom shuttle]

Oh and my blueprints won’t auto connect because the railroad tracks too short

Isn’t that great

[fathom shuttle]

What do I press

[hard ivy]

H

[wise junco]

just nudge as you normally would - or like KYO said H to freeze hologram if you didn't know that part

[hard ivy]

The devs should spend the time fixing them instead

[fathom shuttle]

I get it, but how do I get the infinite nudging thing

[hard ivy]

Arrow keys and pg up/down

[hard ivy]

Vanilla nudge doesn't have distance limits anymore. It's infinite nudge

[white dawn]

Yeah, "fixing" fluid behavior would really mean "completely rewriting fluid behavior"

I agree that the user experience with fluids is suboptimal, but at least once you know how to work with them they become essentially problem-free

[hard ivy]

They just need to add exponential decay to sloshing and most issues are fixed imo

[mortal ginkgo]

fluid behavior might be too scuffed to fix at this point.

[white dawn]

I feel like "just" is doing an awful lot of heavy lifting there

[mortal ginkgo]

I agree, sloshing is just.. not need to happen 100% of the time?

[hard ivy]

Idk how they're programmed so 🤷‍♂️

[lethal ocean]

Is the Turbofuel or Turbo heavy fuel recipe better? I think Turbofuel is better..

[white dawn]

I don't know either, but I don't think that there's, like, a "slosh" metric they can just tweak

[wise junco]

how would you say the experience is suboptimal? maybe I'm in the minority, but never really struggled much with fluids except in more complicated situations and even then

[mortal ginkgo]

turbo heavy fuel seems to be meh but lets you skip a step so space + power gain?

[white dawn]

It's a physics simulation of some sort, and the current fluid behavior is the result of how that simulation works

[hard ivy]

Regular fuel is better imo, default turbofuel is fine, turbo heavy sucks ass

[white dawn]

Tweak one thing and you could end up breaking a lot of currently-working systems, which is one reason why it didn't get an overhaul for 1.0

[fathom shuttle]

How do I get more accurate nudging with the direction?

[celest lichen]

Pulling the factorio 2.0 move

[white dawn]

And it's complex enough, and folks have so many unusual piping layouts out there, that honestly IMO they'd tweak that stuff at their own peril

[fathom shuttle]

I neee my railroad tracks to turn like 15 degrees

[celest lichen]

Keep ctrl pressed while nudging

[hard ivy]

Hold Ctrl or alt iirc

[mortal ginkgo]

the main issue with them is if your factory demands 600/min fluid and you ARE providing 600/min, it supposed to work 100% of the time. but sloshing is not explained, sometimes rarely happens, some says its even sometimes framerate dependant too.

[white dawn]

Yeah, it'd really have to be a 2.0 kind of version change, IMO, for them to really touch it

1.0 would've been the time to overhaul it, if they'd wanted to, but I think they didn't really get to grips with the root causes of common user complaints until it was already far too late

[celest lichen]

Yeah infinite and instant throughout, automatically balances inputs and outputs

[white dawn]

You'd want a fluid overhaul to go through a lot of Experimental burn-in before rolling out to everyone

[primal haven]

I thought sloshing wasnt an issue if your pipes are full

[fathom shuttle]

Ctrl doesn’t do anything, just snaps and alt changes my hot bar

[wise junco]

I think maybe I've been incredibly lucky in that I've not had sloshing issues to the extent that they've been noticeable

[mortal ginkgo]

I did not know why my coal gens (last and first) did not get enough water. And it seems it was because of long pipes and sloshing.

I added pumps to prevent backflow (I have no valves yet) and it magically worked.

Game doesn't tell if the problem is sloshing or not.

[white dawn]

Nah, sloshing can happen even then; that's mostly what looped manifolds help to overcome

[celest lichen]

The only limitation is like how far a pipe can extend without a pump, which is funny now because the bottleneck when megabasing oil is pumps

[white dawn]

Sloshing is in large part due to the fact that machines don't actually consume per-minute flows of anything. They instead consume whole chunks at once. So you've got an inherent "shuddering" effect to where fluid needs to be delivered

Yeah, it'd be nasty

[hard ivy]

nah, that'd mean you could never get 600/min but you can

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont think at this point it is worth "fixing". Just have 595/min setup and you are golden.

[hard ivy]

sloshing happens when fluid reflects off a dead end

[white dawn]

As I say, I think they could've gotten away with it for 1.0, but they'd've needed to have started work on it a long time before

[mortal ginkgo]

there are many fixes to have continuous 600/min but it just.. looks meh

[mortal ginkgo]

I assume the code is scuffed. It works but it does so barely.

[white dawn]

I mean, I am not CSS, but I can't imagine it also can't happen when a sudden void opens up directly "behind"

[hard ivy]

I never had issues with 600/min alu water pipes and sloppy takes 10m3 per cycle

[white dawn]

I'd honestly disagree. I think the code's working fine, it's just that the simulation is sort of too complex for the amount of user feedback you get. The impression that I get is that it's actually a pretty elegant system. Like it's pretty awesome that something like hydraulic shock ends up happening. CSS didn't set out to make a fluid system which could experience hydraulic shock, but they got one that could.

[white dawn]

Right, I too have had plenty of working 600/min fluid systems. I'm actually a bit of a fan of fluids in the game.

[mortal ginkgo]

Could be. I mean, I understand that everything could go wrong if I use 4 corner pipes everywhere.

Still, more control on pipes would work wonders.

[white dawn]

But in a lot of circumstances it's the looped manifold which allows the sloshing effects to Not Matter

[white dawn]

User feedback's the main problem, IMO. You spend a big chunk of the game with pipe systems which tend to be pretty forgiving of how you build them, but then as the flow rate increases, the stuff that used to work for you doesn't always, and it's difficult to know what's going on in there

Fortunately at least there is a healthy amount of community knowledge, and it's generally possible to fix up pipes so that they work as expected

After succumbing to The Best Practices™ on my own pipe builds, I've basically never experienced flow problems again

It does mean my piping tends to be a bit boring and uniform, but c'est la vie. :D

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah exactly what I mean brother. as I said, I had no idea sloshing was a thing when 2 of my coal gens didnt get enough water, only to find out that, long pipes can cause that and I needed to block backflow via pumps.

[shrewd oriole]

how do the hypertube branches even work beacause it only send me in 1 direction

[mortal ginkgo]

sometimes it looks like they are connected but it is bugged. delete the hyper tube segment and redo them

[white dawn]

Hit E as you approach, to switch lanes, I think

[shrewd oriole]

there all connected

[shrewd oriole]

thanks alot thats working

[white dawn]

It's a shame they didn't just use directional keys like with train intersections, but I think you can arrange the intersections to go up/down instead? Might have introduced some ambiguity depending on arrangement

(I still haven't had a chance to actually play 1.1, so I'm not too familiar with the new stuff)

[hard ivy]

I wish they used dir keys because then it'd work with boosters
hitting the 0.1s time window is impossible

[shrewd oriole]

I thought u had to press a and d for the branch but it id only e

[white dawn]

Yeah, I think most folks would've preferred directional keys

[mortal ginkgo]

I swear that "Press E to change direction" does not pop up at very first time you want to use the system.

I surely remember not seeing that, wondering what to do to change direction

[hard ivy]

alt??

[open tree]

why do ceiling lights NOT have a second wire point?

[wise junco]

honestly, it's a valid argument

i don't like the way the wires look when you daisy-chain them

[open tree]

yeah i wanted to link ceiling lights into one run of lights.

[wise junco]

you can

[open tree]

how?

[wise junco]

ceiling lights will take 2 wires

but it's just the same contact point

[open tree]

yeah i didnt want a wire crossing the bar of light. to get to the next light

[mortal ginkgo]

how about powerlinking them from above?

[wise junco]

@mortal ginkgo that's genius

[open tree]

clipping it into the ceiling?

[wise junco]

yeah. i think that's a good option

i used to be so against clipping ANYTHING... until i saw how neat it can make things

[mortal ginkgo]

1m foundation + power thingy + 1m foundation = link to light = profit

you can use a straight beam to put a smol version of that power thingies, vertical nudge it below with CTRL and you wont ever see it between

bro my wires all come from inside the walls like horror movies kek

[wise junco]

yeah, wires are my big clippies nowadays

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont see them because I power my factory from below, from logistic floors.

[primal haven]

im a fan of painted beam wire runners

you can use the connectors to help disguise the ends of the power nubs too

[wise junco]

I've been doing a lot of that with steel beams

[mortal ginkgo]

I am not a fan of this games powering system. We got dimentional storages but no power transferring foundations.

[primal haven]

I dont want to have my machines tied to foundations

If i want to put a machine on something else then how would that work if we used powered foundations instead?

[mortal ginkgo]

what else you are putting them on?

[white dawn]

To be fair, the presence of powered foundations wouldn't necessarily mean that the current powering options go away

Could already be a mod which has them, of course

[mortal ginkgo]

This. I am not asking for power poles to be removed and such.

[fathom shuttle]

Rail road has been built boys

I need to set up the station now

[mortal ginkgo]

I would ask for an option to not use them because they look meh.

[primal haven]

i have machines on scaffolding pretty often for example, but concrete beams and all sorts of stuff

[last jungle]

nice, i very recently got the milestone but ill explore it later

[wise junco]

powered architecture in general could be interesting

[white dawn]

Powered architecture plus eventual return of rain == fried Pioneer

[mortal ginkgo]

or have "tesla poles or pointy thingies" that give power as an AoE.

[last jungle]

oil floats in water

[mortal ginkgo]

I have yet to see someone using pole mk3, other than Kibitz. but then Kibitz is Kibitz. So it makes sense. 😛

[last jungle]

1. soak yourself in oil

2. wait for it to rain

3. achieve flight

[fathom shuttle]

You’ll probably need it for aluminum

[mortal ginkgo]

dilluted fuel lets go?

[primal haven]

i could possibly see a power pole or nubby adding power to the square its attached to

or allow us to actually run wires through walls

and floors/ceilings

[white dawn]

Running wires through walls is something we can already do; got the double-sided wall socket

A similar thing for floors/ceilings would indeed be nice

(though you can roll your own for those via blueprints, at least)

[primal haven]

no I mean along them not through them, sorry

like circuitry

[fathom shuttle]

So a station only serves 1 train?

[hard ivy]

1 at a time

[lime ermine]

I need 256 refineries just for nuclear pasta copper 😭

[white dawn]

I suspect that we're unlikely to see that kind of thing land in the vanilla game, fwiw -- I expect mods will be your answer to those kinds of FRs

Though you can always suggest stuff at the Questions site

IMO the current Satisfactory powering methods are pretty linked to the visual aesthetic of the game; I suspect CSS doesn't want to mess with that much

[primal haven]

yeah its likely not practical to add, but still if we could just paint wires on the ground and walls and then attach machines to them, would be much cleaner to build with

[white dawn]

They'd had conversations in the past about allowing daisy-chaining of machines and such and ended up rejecting it. I think the current powering systems are what they basically want

[fathom shuttle]

I have 2 , one goes to drop off the bauxite, and pick it up from the mine and the second one will be for reanimated Sam and other things. How should I set up the freight stations?

[crimson ridge]

Hello all! i would love if someone could look at my build regarding oil and power. my pipes are not going over 10 meters from the extractor, but they are all empty and my build doesnt work. #newb

[white dawn]

I always just think of it as one more interesting problem to solve, assuming I'm working on a factory where I care about aesthetics

Which is maybe 20% of the time. :P

[primal haven]

yeah the wires are tricky for sure

what would building without problems be though?

[white dawn]

What I still want is wires which can be customized via the customizer

[crimson ridge]

i have no clue what im doing wrong

[white dawn]

Working on complex lighting systems with multiple light control systems makes it difficult to keep the various lines straight sometimes. :P

Would be nice to be able to paint the cables for easier identification.

[cyan garnet]

I use them exclusively once I have HSCs automated, since they are not used for much else buildgun-wise. I like using them for their height more than anything else

[white dawn]

Maybe require some plastic so they're coated. :)

[hard ivy]

do not mix different items in one platform, so this sounds like a job for 2 stations

[cyan garnet]

Start a thread in #1038092680493801533 with screenshots of your issue

[lime ermine]

Make a post in #1038092680493801533 with some photos

[crimson ridge]

will do so! thank you! im new inhere 🙂

[fathom shuttle]

Ok so I have the station built, the freight stations are built after the train station right

1 for each cart

[cyan garnet]

Freight stations attach to the flat side of the station

Rounded side of the station needs to point “away” such that the train is pulling into it

[fathom shuttle]

Oh I see

[cyan garnet]

——— [] [] [)

For a train heading left to right

[fathom shuttle]

How many freight platforms do I need for a train pulling 4 cars?

[white dawn]

Four, if you want all four cars to be loaded/unloaded

[abstract heron]

@unborn gyro i on summer break no factory for me for a while to HOT

[fathom shuttle]

#screenshots

[fathom shuttle]

I fixed it so that all output is on the same direction

Yea I’ll remove them when I go back

Anyway the train set is correct right?

[open tree]

ugh i need more hard drives. i need steel screws and wet concrete

[swift goblet]

I need a message!

[fathom shuttle]

LMAOOOO bro

[hard ivy]

steel screws? ew

[fathom shuttle]

The train goes 250km/h on the way down 💀 💀

[zinc heron]

i want to start a new save

but ive never had one with any other people

wrong chat mb

[north iron]

Is there a modding discord or channel?

Because im looking for a mod that can apply coatings to all buildings, like you can change their color

[hard ivy]

yes, link in #welcome

[fathom shuttle]

265km/h

This is amazing

[fossil coral]

So when people go out exploring do you just dump your whole inventory except for your weapons and food? I'm at the end of tier 2 but feel my inventory pretty restrictive

[zinc heron]

you can use your vehicles storage space too

[fossil coral]

And also are some things only found in certain biomes? Looking for MAM things

[fossil coral]

No vehicle yet! Not even a rebar gun, soon on that one though

[zinc heron]

thats what i do atleast. i keep my more sophisticated mats in there and the stuff i can find naturally i just do that otw so im not carrying more

[zinc heron]

okay then yea maybe store some stuff back home is what i did. me personally i like not having anything in my inventory i dont need right at that moment so i make my exploration trips short but efficient and unload when i get back

[open pollen]

Some of the MAM research gives more inventory and tool belt slots. So that is good to work towards

[white dawn]

Mostly, though it's very helpful to also carry around some concrete and iron to make yourself some makeshift climbing aids

[zinc heron]

agreed

[white dawn]

Foundations, ramps, ladders, catwalks, etc

[fathom shuttle]

Yea the trip will be really fast this way

I’m smashing them at top speed lol

What’s the max inventory slots of a cart?

32 ok

[simple echo]

Is there a way to hotswap equipment? Like quickly swap hover pack for jetpack? Is there a mod for that?

[fathom shuttle]

Unfortunately not

[simple echo]

Eh

[elder apex]

there is a mod that lets you assign hotkeys to specific equipment items IIRC

[simple echo]

Link?

[elder apex]

i don't know off the top of my head, maybe ask in the modding discord or just search for it on ficsit.app

[open tree]

iron just takes up so much res to make them

[hard ivy]

don't make screws at all and you'll need even less

[open tree]

i need it for the reinforced plate?

[hard ivy]

stitched plate

[open tree]

wiki stitched+plate

dammit

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch reinforced+iron+plate

[fossil ice]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=reinforced+iron+plate

[fathom shuttle]

I do the same thing in the other station right?

[open tree]

havent run across that one yet. i skipped the bolted iron plate though

[solar aspen]

if 1 power plants makes 10 per min uranium waste, then how can i know how much it makes when i overclooked it?

[white dawn]

It works the same as any other input/output. If you overclock it to 200%, it'll generate 20/min waste

[open tree]

if you max over clock it it will make 25/min

#screenshots message how did you get it so condensed/compact?

[tawny oracle]

Noob here, cant wrap my head around splitting pipes. If i have a singular pipe coming from below, going upwards, how can I connect this but also split it left and right?

[fathom shuttle]

Vertical junctions

[tawny oracle]

is it a awesome shop thing 🤦

[fathom shuttle]

No

[white dawn]

If you have a pipe going up, you can select the usual pipe junction, and if you mouseover the vertical pipe, it'll be a vertical junction

You can also build a wall and attach a new vertical junction to the side of the wall

[tawny oracle]

Oh, my god

[fathom shuttle]

When you’re placing the junctions onto the pipe use your scroll wheel

[tawny oracle]

I didnt realise I could just mouse wheel to spin it

[fathom shuttle]

Yea

[white dawn]

That too. :)

[tawny oracle]

Embarassing. lol.

Thank you though!

[white dawn]

Nah, there's a lot of UX which isn't obvious at first, and the game can be a bit overwhelming. We've all been there, no need to feel embarrassed. :)

[open tree]

Lights dont go through glass floors? WTF?

[white dawn]

What, you expect this glass to be transparent?

[open tree]

...... well that would be ideal yes.

[fathom shuttle]

You’ll need path tracing for that

[open tree]

thats a mod?

[green fiber]

no

[fathom shuttle]

No

[green fiber]

the issue isnt path tracing
the issue is that glass isnt set to be transparent for the light buildings

[fossil coral]

Making sure I have my math right here, one 60/min iron node to 2 iron ingot smelters to 5 cast screw constructors?

[green fiber]

basically, the lights you can build have a distance check and get stopped by the glass floor

[fathom shuttle]

I guess someone can make an ultra lumen mod that makes your game run at 5fps

[green fiber]

the devs just need to fix / change that some day

[green fiber]

5 cast screw is too much by a little bit but it would work i guess

5 need 62.5/min

you have 60/min

[fossil coral]

Ah 12.5 oops

Close enough for now

[green fiber]

you can underclock the last one

in the end you get 240/min screws

[fossil coral]

Setting up my starter iron copper and concrete actual base instead of my temporary thing , having fun

[fathom shuttle]

I need someone to help me set up the train station

[trim vine]

compacted coal

good to know!

[trim vine]

I can help, but what have you done yourself thus far?

[fathom shuttle]

I’m done with everything, now I just need to set up the train settings

I’m currently at the station where I’ll pick up the bauxite

[trim vine]

So you need help with the train schedule, not the station itself?

[rare thunder]

i wish i could use bombs instead of dismantling it would be faster

[fathom shuttle]

Yes

[trim vine]

ok, and as far as setting said schedule, done in the timetable tab, what have you tried?

[ivory mulch]

chat do we like plastic or rubber more?

[rare thunder]

latex

[trim vine]

we like themm both equally

[green fiber]

Polymer Resin

[ivory mulch]

resin makes me shake with anger

[hard ivy]

fuel

[green fiber]

the weak should fear the strong

[fathom shuttle]

So I’ve set the station where the train picks up bauxite to freight wagon is fully loaded, and loading only bauxite, I assume I do the same thing for the train where the bauxite is dropped off but I set it to only unload bauxite

[trim vine]

usually in most systems you can balance both outputs equally, to get an equal number of plastic and rubber

[trim vine]

You got it

[ivory mulch]

i see

[trim vine]

once thats done, lemme know how it goes, and if any problems arise, lets talk through them!

[tawny oracle]

Maybe another one for you. Ive set up a single 8 Coal generator, and 16 set up, yet my maximum wattage is only 900? Am i missing something?

[hard ivy]

if you only have bauxite on the train, you don't need to set to only unload bauxite. It'll unload everything (i.e. the bauxite) without filters

[fathom shuttle]

Does the “wait for second(s)” mean the train will leave after the timer runs out regardless of whether it’s full or not

[trim vine]

I think he meant its only bauxite on the car, i could be wrong

[trim vine]

yes, and how it should be

[fathom shuttle]

How long should I set the timer for

[hard ivy]

if the condition is OR

[trim vine]

cause it will pull out, load what it got, and keep it moving

[trim vine]

default (I think 15) is fine

and like KYO said, it is 15 sec OR

[fathom shuttle]

Ok I set it to and so they train doesn’t leave early

[trim vine]

how many cars for what flavor node of bauxite?

[hard ivy]

if you want it to depart when empty/full, yeah you need that AND wait 0 seconds

[fathom shuttle]

4 cars, 4 pure node at 480/min. but I’ll upgrade everything to 780/min

[hard ivy]

also, for depart when empty/full, the wagons need to be balanced or the train will be delayed

[fathom shuttle]

I set up a manifold

So I already have that wrong

[trim vine]

ok, for an mk3 miner on a normal (600 item per minute) 3 car minimum, being evenly split into all 3 and being evenly merged at the other end, with ISC buffers at each freight station

[trim vine]

For a pure node at 780 (I dont assume mk6 belts for now)

4 cars depending on the length of the drive, maybe 5, split evenly

[hard ivy]

if you're only moving one belt total, a manifold is fine. but for more than one belt, it's not

[fathom shuttle]

Oh okay

[trim vine]

3 on a 780 node can work if the trip is shorter

[foggy kayak]

is there an easy way to place things underneath a shelf?

[trim vine]

drop a splitter and it evenly goes into 3 cars

a splitter into 2 more splitters for 4 cars, ez pz, and remember, INDUSTRIAL STORAGE BUFFERS on all inputs and outputs from the train station

[fathom shuttle]

Mk2 miner, so I can do 600/min max for now

[trim vine]

If you have the tech for the mk3 miner, and lack resources, I would reocmmend using some tickets to buy the materials to drop a couple of MK3 miners, bauxite is one of them set ups I hate touching after it gets going

[fathom shuttle]

Mk3 miners? Can’t buy that, I’ll need to get some super computers first

Need aluminum for that

But I think my set up only need some balancing and small redesign to adjust for mk5/6 full speed

[trim vine]

Use coupons to buy out some turbo motors and super computers, is what I meant

[fathom shuttle]

Ok what the hell

It says next stop is unreachable

[trim vine]

you free for a call?

[fathom shuttle]

Yea sure

Send me your steam id

[trim vine]

calling you on discord

may need to accept the chat request

[tawny oracle]

Does anyone know why my capacity is 900MW, but I have 24 coal generators? yet theyre all connected

[lime ermine]

Are they all working?

[west jackal]

900 is 12, it sounds like half of them are offline. Do they have enough coal/water? (and connected properly)

[mortal ginkgo]

a Coal Gen will pretend to work and waste coal and water if it is connected to a pole. Make sure that pole is actually connected to main grid

[west jackal]

Is there a way to remove the warning about loading a modded save without mods?

All i had was a zoop mod and i dont want it anymore, it annoyed me more than it helped

[tawny oracle]

And youre both absolutley correct, 1 missing wire. Damn

[west jackal]

you love to see that 🙂

Easiest fix, lol

[tawny oracle]

Yeah, lowkey spent the past 15 mins trya fix it lol

Back to basics

[west jackal]

so why does the explorer feel so bad now? In U8 it was amazing, but now it feels kinda sucky.. always spinning out, and it feels like it has a huge turbo lag

[mortal ginkgo]

didnt play U8 but what people reports is things changed for the worse with Unreal 5 upgrade

[main spire]

built a outpost ontop of a resource well (water)

[quaint flax]

do you guys think 27x16 enough for iron stuff?

or too much

[west jackal]

i dont know if its the unreal 5 engine or not, although if that changed the physics of the vehicle it could be.. when did the engine change?

[mortal ginkgo]

I think between U8 and 1.0? Dont trust me on that

[west jackal]

I mean that would make sense lol

i remember driving trucks filled with crude oil before they added liquids, they had the same physics. but now its different

[reef basin]

How much iron do you need for that "stuff"?

[lime ermine]

What stuff and what is 27x16? The floor space? The amount of ore?

[quaint flax]

area and 480/m iron

[lime ermine]

What are you trying to make

[quaint flax]

trying to automate basic things
iron rod/plate
reinforced iron plate
screws
modular frame
rotor
smart plating

70h in still didn't get %100 efficent makers

[main spire]

gave the foundation deck of my outpost lights with warmth options (0 - .9 saturation)

[reef basin]

Depends on recipes, density of build, clock speed, etc. I'd recommend bulding factory first and then encasing it into a building

[quaint flax]

Thank you

[hard ivy]

you can roughly estimate the area by first calculating how many machines you need and of which type for your target production, then calculate how much area they take up, and then multiply that by 2. That's approximately how much floor area you'll need.

[bitter lodge]

satisfactory calculator

I actually just did a factory for all this at 100%

[hard ivy]

actually the absolute worst calculator of all

[rapid wren]

how to join steam friends server?

on my epic client i can just enable cross play, but he does not have that option

his options are single/IP/epic/steam

[main spire]

yall know of ways to dispose of nuclear waste automatically?

[rapid wren]

tried pasting the session ID using all options.

[bitter lodge]

oh-

[hard ivy]

turn it into the next tier of rod

[bitter lodge]

what is a better option?

[hard ivy]

satisfactory tools or satisfactory modeler depending how manual/automatic you want your calculator to be

[bitter lodge]

which one is more automatic?

[hard ivy]

Tools

[bitter lodge]

I am newish to the game, so like still learning things

[west jackal]

use greeny's tool if you want, however you wont stay at 100% till you get smart splitter for sink

also 100% isnt super important

i mean, ideally you have it. but its not the end of the world if you dont

[bitter lodge]

so is there also a better map than the satisfactory calculator website?

[quaint flax]

What'!s his tool? Satisfactory calculator site or?

[hard ivy]

nah, their map is fine. only the calculator is terrible

[west jackal]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[dire laurel]

Heyyy i am building with coal gens and stuff and have more coal that i even need but can i have to much splitter?

[west jackal]

imo his is far superior to the calculator site

[true mulch]

satisfactory-calculator has the best (and possibly only?) map, but the production planner isn't great

[west jackal]

to much splitter? can you explain?

[dire laurel]

i have 24 coal gens and 12 splitter

with mk 4

[bitter lodge]

It worked pretty good for outlining my first factory?

Though I haven't tried tools or anything else. So I can't really compare it

[west jackal]

i mean thats an odd way of doing it, i would need to see it. but whats the issue?

[dire laurel]

you can see it

[west jackal]

try tools, it is so much nicer

[bitter lodge]

I will for my steel set up

[hard ivy]

it breaks down a bit when using alts. and there are some chains it straight up can't calculate

[bitter lodge]

But currently for steel I only got 120 coal and 120 iron...so like. Not really needing to plan anything

[true mulch]

it doesn't optimize the setup, whereas Tools go for lowest resource usage and can decide between multiple alt recipes (SCIM just forcibly uses the one you enable)

[west jackal]

also it cant handle multiple input/outputs

[dire laurel]

can you look in our chat Dylan? :D

[true mulch]

it works okay up until about tier 4

try to calculate something like fuel rods and it'll explode

[west jackal]

Tyron, i dont join serveres i get Dmed

[bitter lodge]

Good thing I am only tier 3 then

[west jackal]

thats a easy way to lose my account

[dire laurel]

then i call you prv

[winged saffron]

i cant figure out at all why my game wont launch :(

[west jackal]

why not just send a screenshot?

[bitter lodge]

Verify integral files?

[dire laurel]

cuz than you can see

[winged saffron]

i just wanna play the new update...

[main spire]

also for some reason i can't use ammo variants for the rebar gun and rifle

[winged saffron]

did that

[dire laurel]

and prv call is way faster

[true mulch]

make a #1038092680493801533 post with details and post what your setup is (CPU/GPU)

[winged saffron]

three times

[quaint flax]

do u guys think 6/m rotor is fine or nah

[main spire]

only the regular ammo

[winged saffron]

where could i find my specs

[west jackal]

i dont want to call, so if you cant just send a screenshot then maybe someone else can help tyron

[dire laurel]

i am in a prv call you can joi

[bitter lodge]

For your first make of them, ya

[dire laurel]

okay

[true mulch]

a) ctrl+shift+esc, expand, in the 2nd tab
b) run "dxdiag" from the start menu

[dire laurel]

wait

[bitter lodge]

Considering max belt speed is 120 at mk2.

Can't really import lots of resources super early

[quaint flax]

i mean 75h now still dont have anything automated bored of spaghetti conveyors and want to make something looks like an actual factory

[true mulch]

totally. as soon as you get to motors, make a new set of rotors specifically for use in motors, instead of leeching off that (which is a good overall strategy)

[bitter lodge]

Well. I would first decide how much iron you want to throw at this thing, and if you have any alt recipes that can help

[winged saffron]

woah didnt know there was a bind for task manager
is it in the performance section?

[bitter lodge]

Throwing 360ish and I make 6/min. But only save 4. Use 2 for smart plates

[true mulch]

whatever the 2nd tab is (I don't have English Windows)

[winged saffron]

👍

[quaint flax]

overall system producing
16/m iron plate
16/m iron rod
6/m modular frame
6/m reinforec iron plate
20/m screw
6/m rotor
6/m smart plating

i believe that's fine for start

[bitter lodge]

How much iron are you using?

[quaint flax]

480/m

[bitter lodge]

Huh

That seems low-

[sacred herald]

hey i want to play satisfactory but not alone

are there people that have servers or such

[west jackal]

join the club

[fossil ice]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout #1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[sacred herald]

what club

[bitter lodge]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/production/index/json/{"Desc_IronRod_C"%3A"30"%2C"Desc_IronScrew_C"%3A"40"%2C"Desc_IronPlate_C"%3A"40"%2C"Desc_IronPlateReinforced_C"%3A"10"%2C"Desc_ModularFrame_C"%3A"2"%2C"Desc_Rotor_C"%3A"4"%2C"Desc_SpaceElevatorPart_1_C"%3A"2"%2C"input"%3A{"Desc_OreIron_C"%3A"360"}}

[quaint flax]

maybe less plate,rod,screw should do the job

[west jackal]

its a saying...

[bitter lodge]

The cal there is my iron factory. Input and output

[west jackal]

i would love to play with others, but the nature of the game makes it difficult to have servers, and if you arent on a server then you can only play when the host is available

[true mulch]

not bad at all, you can just expand if you'll feel like you're low on something

[quaint flax]

got it then

[sacred herald]

same bro same

[quaint flax]

Again asking should i use tools site or calculator site?

[bitter lodge]

Tools

[quaint flax]

aren't 2 doing the same job?

[cyan garnet]

calculator for the map, tools for the planner

[sacred herald]

lookin for group

wheres that ping

[true mulch]

@sacred herald #satisfactory message

[winged saffron]

ok i posted it, do i just wait now?

[sacred herald]

thanks was lookin for this

[dire laurel]

where should i send you the pics?

[west jackal]

i told you already, tools

[quaint flax]

just to make sure

[west jackal]

satisfactorytools.com

[true mulch]

yep

[granite egret]

Does it matter where to build space elevator?
Does it require some advanced planning? Can it be rebuilt?

[quaint flax]

another question is belts being longer or shorter making any difference?

[bitter lodge]

length doesn't matter

[true mulch]

you can relocate it freely without losing any progress

[pseudo holly]

length matters

[bitter lodge]

just what mk they are

[quaint flax]

😭 i need 1 answer cuh

[pseudo holly]

Joke

[quaint flax]

alr

[dire laurel]

i sendet you the pics

[quaint flax]

tytyty

[granite egret]

Thank you!

[west jackal]

do hypertube cannons work with the new hypertube splits?

or should i build the old junctions i designed

[stone python]

they work great

[west jackal]

fr? bet

[sharp sentinel]

How do I get a saved blueprint to go into a category? I made a new one, but it won't go in.

[primal haven]

yeah you can make circular ones easier now too

[hard ivy]

go into the blueprint menu in the build gun, edit, drag the blueprint into a category, save

[west jackal]

make a subcategory in the new category

you cant put a blueprint into a category unless it has a subcategory

[sharp sentinel]

Ah, that was it! Thank you.

[west jackal]

😄

[north widget]

i wanna ask how many super computers do you guys try to make a minute

[true mulch]

ballpark of single digits per minute

[north widget]

alright so im not doing to bad

i was thinking how on earth am i gonna get 10 of these things a minute

[west jackal]

eh, i think my last was like 3 per minute

[stone python]

i made a mega factory doing 20. Never needed all of them

[true mulch]

plan for what you need now/for building not for the future

[west jackal]

but that was before sam

[stone python]

great for tickets though LOL

[hard ivy]

15/min for my own use

[north widget]

holy

[true mulch]

if another factory ends up needing supercomputers, just make supercomputers in the exact amount you need

[west jackal]

trust, 5 is the most youll ever need per minute

[north widget]

anyone know a spot to make assembly director systems

[true mulch]

for storage/building even 3/min is plenty, it'll just pile up in storage

[sharp sentinel]

Storage? You mean poor people dimensional depots?

[true mulch]

sorry I'm old

[hard ivy]

the storage before the DD

[true mulch]

back in the day, we had central storage

[stone python]

ok granpa, back to your room.

[sharp sentinel]

I pondered with doing that, but decided to implement a SINK for excess so I could maintain perpetual production.

[hard ivy]

I didn't. I hypertubed between factories

[sharp sentinel]

I did briefly.

[west jackal]

ik.. im still getting used to DD

[hard ivy]

those are not mutually exclusive?

[west jackal]

i remember having a central storage hub that had every item up to SC

[sharp sentinel]

They are when you're lazy.

Can I make a railway double back on it's own tracks?

[hard ivy]

yes

[sharp sentinel]

Awesome, going to experiment with that. I don't want to construct a total loop.

[hard ivy]

fyi, it only works well if there's only one train. as soon as you introduce signals and a second, third train, the throughput becomes terrible

[sacred herald]

if i send a game file to someone can we start a server 💔

[sharp sentinel]

It's alright, I intend to only be moving plastic and rubber to my core factories in Grassy Plains from Blue Crater. The terrain is so doofy that I didn't want to commit to a larger train line. I'll instead come from Rocky Desert later on with a more complete ordeal.

I may, if I continue enjoying this, do it just for the challenge. But it'd be precarious because of how I constucted the initial stop.

[true mulch]

use #1201555265942724758, the whole point of the channel is that you don't post elsewhere

[wise junco]

howdy yall

[peak wasp]

And it was glorious to behold

[sharp sentinel]

My EA save was only 35 hours. I think I hit like, phase 2.

[desert kindle]

I have finished my 10 modular frames / min factory

[smoky forge]

if i get inventory slots choice at a hard drive scan, should i take it?

(im somewhat at endgame inventory)

[fathom shuttle]

It depends do you need any alternate recipes

[hard ivy]

if it's more useful than the other choice, maybe

but DDs make inventory kinda obsolete

[smoky forge]

i have like 10 hard drives ready to redeem

[fathom shuttle]

What’s the max you can have?

[hard ivy]

78

[fathom shuttle]

I’d say save up

They’re clutch when you need recipes

[hard ivy]

though it's supposed to be 81 (that's what it was before 1.0)

[fathom shuttle]

That kinda sucks

[smoky forge]

cant send picture gona do that in #math-and-meta

[fathom shuttle]

All I need now is the pure aluminum ingot recipe

[smoky forge]

ye thats what im doing

i dont know tho which ones i already need

[cursive jolt]

Any updates on console release?

[hard ivy]

respect for not taking cast screws lol

[smoky forge]

is it good?

[hard ivy]

at this point in the game? no

it's only mildly useful before steel and that's about it

[smoky forge]

mh ok

[hard ivy]

that's why I never take it

[smoky forge]

any other good ones i got

?

[sour ledge]

y'know, i left the game alone for a few months and came back after 1.1 came out to start anew

i just reached bauxite, and i've got this uh... water recycling junction thing? memorized to prioritize recycled water

i don't even know how it works, but apparently aluminum traumatized me so bad that months later this bizarre looking construct is still emblazoned into my memory

[north widget]

alright guy

[smoky forge]

lmao

[north widget]

i got a question should i boringly wait 12 minutes for my pod to come back for hazmat suit orrr get right into nuke power

[sour ledge]

depends how many inhalers you're carrying around

[north widget]

50

+5

[smoky forge]

suit

[north widget]

hmmm alright this is my first time ever doing nuke power im 450 hours played all together

any tips?

[carmine bear]

are there any websites or apps like satisfactory modeler that are better? :p

[white dawn]

I'm not sure of any other planning software which specifically does what Modeller does, but my usual solver of choice is https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[quaint flax]

Should i use slower belt's that connects to smelters when building manifolds?

[carmine bear]

aw. oki. ill try it out.

[white dawn]

So long as the belt you're using can carry the throughput of the material it needs to, it'll work fine

I tend to mostly just use whatever my highest tier belt is, in any situation, but if you want to use the minimum possible belt, that's generally fine

[quaint flax]

alr

[carmine bear]

i just realized, if you put a higher belt to carry, say, ores to a smelter, and the minimum belt to carry them from the belt to the smelter, that might solve the issue with having to wait for the items to fill the inventory space.

that didnt make sense... did it?

XD

[white dawn]

Heh, I understood what you meant. Could be!

[carmine bear]

lol

[white dawn]

Wouldn't be too hard to run some timing tests, though in the end it's probably not worth the bother. :P

[carmine bear]

fr LOL. i was gonna test it, then i was like "ehhh...."

[pseudo holly]

I completed the game... its peak

87 hours in about a week and a half

[north widget]

87 hours how many things did you put into storage boxes straight to a somerslooped manuefacturer

[glossy sundial]

how long did each stage take you?

[west jackal]

can i remove the "save has been previously loaded with mods" without restarting?

[pseudo holly]

i actually only did that for phase 3

[west jackal]

im fine messing around with the save file to do this

[north widget]

dang you were locked in

guys anyone have tips on a nuculear power like is there a really good alt recipe i should use

[pseudo holly]

after phase 1 my phases were about equal length, probably phase 3 took the longest

[west jackal]

that doesnt sound right guardtown, unless you took a really long time on phase 2

wait are you comparing phase 1 2 and 3?

you phrased it weirdly if that is all you mean

[pseudo holly]

2, 3, 4 and 5 took around the same amount of time each (but if i had to choose which one was the longest, phase 3)

phase 1 was quicker i think

[west jackal]

phase 3 4 5 take so much longer? unless you are talking about tiers

[lost wagon]

just noticed half foundations doesn't perfectly align with full foundations, now it will haunt me

[pseudo holly]

i mean i got new modes of transport, blueprints, better conveyor belts and miners, more shards and sloops and also dimensional depot

even though the later phases are more complicated i also had better building tools and assistances

[west jackal]

i suppose, but i feel like phase 3 is like 150-200h

if you automate and not just rush it

(im not saying anything bad about you, just commenting on my own experience)

[pseudo holly]

i also literally did everything the fastest way possible in my playthrough, my base is completely indecipherable to anyone but me

[lost wagon]

the factory must grow until I have everything possible automated

[pseudo holly]

i am very tempted to try and get like 2 quadrillion ficsit points per minute

[carmine musk]

is that even possible?!

[west jackal]

just sink everything lol

[carmine musk]

so it is possible?

[west jackal]

oh, i dont know

ive only gotten to million/min

[carmine musk]

anyones got a savefile that i can use to try and learn how the game works.

[west jackal]

?

like what

[carmine musk]

idk like someones end game or mid game world idk i just want to learn how the machines and stuff work, how i should set up

[strong wind]

Any word about the console port btw I been out of the loop for a bit

[lost wagon]

how you set up machines depends on what recipes are you using to begin with

alternate recipes you have to unlock

[red linden]

you are unlikely to learn anything from endgame factories because you will not understand the network without building it yourself or having a description of each production chain on hand

[carmine musk]

i have like 130 hours on the game but i dont really know where im headed to, i just wanna see how others do it you know

[red linden]

ah thought you were on my level lol

[lost wagon]

satisfactory modeler helps with setting up productions chains, it actually also help with understanding it

it basically makes the machines a flowchart

[carmine musk]

oh whats that i need it

[west jackal]

i will say use satisfactorytools.com its very helpful for setting up production early on

[sand glacier]

Satisfactory production planner is better

[lost wagon]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3187030/Satisfactory_Modeler/

[west jackal]

dont use the production planner, use the tool made by greeny

[carmine musk]

does it track my ingame progress?

[lost wagon]

if you're talking about the Satisfactory Calculator planner, it's dogshit

[sand glacier]

Production planner is better

[west jackal]

im not

im talking about the better one

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[lost wagon]

both works, modeler is full manual and you can have all production lines neatly in their own "folders"

[west jackal]

the one that is on the same site as the map is terrible

[lost wagon]

tools is for planning things you're already going to build

[lost wagon]

yea, that's the calculator one

[west jackal]

how many hmf do i need :/

they take a lot more iron than i expected lol

[hard ivy]

more than 0 that's for sure

the specifics depend on you

[west jackal]

is 4/min good early?

[hard ivy]

use alts and they'll literally be less than half price

[west jackal]

yeah i need to get alts

[ivory condor]

Greenys tools remains the best for sure

[zenith pecan]

Sorry about the slow response, I forgot about the old compact coal recipe, I'm using the nitro rocket.

[ivory condor]

I tried the other production planners and wasn't impressed, its overall just bad compared to what greenys tool can do

[hard ivy]

default:
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=3DRuNbSxOt2Vq6F2K4qG
with alts I'd use:
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Th3H93EL2iXnQ8fnx7C8

[lost wagon]

production planner is just wrong, either badly made or at some point the amount of resouces changed and it didn't update the tool

you can try to make the same production line in both and the planner will ask for almost the double amount of machines

[hard ivy]

cause it's stupid and doesn't optimize for resources

it just uses the recipes you selected at random

[west jackal]

brother that is 1100 iron per minute lol

[hard ivy]

2.5 times less than the default costs for the same amount of HMF.

[north widget]

hey guys just sent a picture in screen shots please let me know if thats all i need for nucular power

[west jackal]

yeah i suppose, that is just so many

[ivory condor]

Yeah there is alot that's just wrong/bad about it, apu use greenys tool, it remains the best🙂

[hard ivy]

output is up to you obvsly

[ripe anvil]

What does modeler do that I can't just do with draw.io instead

[lost wagon]

just try it and find out? it's free

[primal haven]

mostly math and database lookup

[lost wagon]

tfw I use 2 conveyor lift and a conveyor wall hole to achieve the same thing one belt could just because it looks cooler

there is no half wall mod?

[lime ermine]

Guys I might be screwed my fixonium plant apparently needs over 8000 raw Sam a minute I don't think there's that much on the map

[hard ivy]

There's 10k

[lime ermine]

Oh good

[hard ivy]

10200 to be exact

[lime ermine]

Thought I was stuck for a second

[hard ivy]

There are always sloops

[lime ermine]

Oh yeah

[wispy tinsel]

being able to nudge blue prints that auto connect makes world train networks so easy

[primal haven]

yeah it helps to make sure things connect to the right spots too, big fan

[north widget]

hey guys i wanna ask

how much uranium fuel rods should i be making

like per minute

[winter ruin]

Depends how much power you want to make

18/min will get you 225GW excluding burning plutonium and other tier 9 stuff

[hard ivy]

1 urod/min gives you 12.5 GW when burned

[lime ermine]

I just realized I need enough water for over 300 nuclear power plants time to build I guess

[winter ruin]

How the hell are you fueling that many reactors?

[lime ermine]

That's all the reactors for uranium, plutonium, and ficsonium

[timid rune]

250% OC'ed?

[lime ermine]

No OC

[winter ruin]

Oh, I haven't gotten to fisconium yet so that makes sense

[timid rune]

No OC can get you 400+ stations easily with all the uranium on the map

50.4/min is the theoretical max uranium fuel rods you can make with alts IIRC

[lime ermine]

I think I'm making about 30 uranium rods a minute

[winter ruin]

How?

Im using all but 1 uranium node and I can only make 18/min

[timid rune]

Alts

[winter ruin]

what

[timid rune]

Infused Uranium Cell + Uranium Fuel Unit

[winter ruin]

Oh

[timid rune]

#screenshots message

[winter ruin]

ok thanks

Im not re doing this whole factory so guess im living with 225GW for this save

[timid rune]

yeah that's plenty

I am at the stage of just messing around

[winter ruin]

already quit for 4.5 months once because of it

Main limiter is the amount of concrete being uploaded because there is alot of wall and roof to be built and I keep running out

#screenshots

To the left of where I took that screenshot is all the reactors

[lost wagon]

need to invest in some customization for walls so I don't have to see this atrocity of misaligned lines

[winter ruin]

If a world is to big, can autosaves cause a crash?

[lost wagon]

now I need to find more matthew mercer balls for storage

[true mulch]

They shouldn't. But larger factories will take noticeably longer to save

[winter ruin]

It crashes almost every time when autosaving

[trim vine]

didnt have the sulfur for nitro sadly

[winter ruin]

Save is so big it managed to crash satisfactory calculator lol

[trim vine]

turn off the showing of buildings and foundations on upload, I had similar problems

[winter ruin]

It managed to load but is now running at 1 frame per sometime

somewhat usable

[graceful plinth]

Im gonna lose my shit, can someone please help me fix my trains? I spend too many hours

[trim vine]

you free for a call?

[graceful plinth]

yes please

[trim vine]

incoming dm/call

[minor vale]

So ada will complain if I kill the large weird leg creature, and lizard doggos

but she won't complain if I kill any of the weird crow sounding birds.

[primal haven]

thats because birds arent real

[shrewd oriole]

how do i like kill the large spiders coz i always die when they come for me

[minor vale]

I just use lots of explosives and good movement.

bladerunners and slide jumping make you near impossible to hit if you're good enough

[shrewd oriole]

all i got is blade runners and that like sword thing

[minor vale]

go get explosives
And the rebar gun

[shrewd oriole]

and they always leap on me from like a mile away

thanks tho

[dense violet]

sounds like you need to research better gear
jump packs, bombs, better guns

[shrewd raven]

I might be late to the party but I’ve finally found a way to be 2x as fast as blade runners without any gear

[shrewd oriole]

im tier 5 rn

so like i dont got much

[minor vale]

is it slide jumping?

[minor vale]

you can get the rebar gun before steel, and the nobolisk explosive only requires sulphur, coal and steel.
both are MAM researches.

[dense violet]

I'm pretty sure you can get the jet pack + fancy guns and bombs at tier 5

[shrewd raven]

Yea but idk if it’s a bug as in the way I’m doing it because it’s NOT normal

[primal haven]

if you just have the big sword, you are going to take damage most likely so id recommend just killing it as fast as possible and then healing

[minor vale]

they made the speed cap for slide jumping much much higher
or removed it
Not sure yet.

[dense violet]

tier 5 is easy peasy murder gear

[shrewd raven]

Basically just hold down space and occasionally tap C and you get some insane speed like we are talking train level

[minor vale]

in 1.1 I should say

[shrewd raven]

But it’s not normal slide jumping I need to specify

[minor vale]

yea it is
you just have to time it well so you barely touch the ground.

[shrewd raven]

I mean

[primal haven]

i think you still get a boost even if you miss it slightly

[shrewd raven]

Like in the context of chat YES it is normal but compared to the old idk I didn’t read the change notes it could just be that way from now on

[primal haven]

its just chaining crouch jumps though

[shrewd raven]

But I’m talking like I got across the grasslands in like 5 seconds solid

[primal haven]

the top speed is faster in 1.1 if thats what you are wondering

[minor vale]

it also applies to bladerunners too.

[shrewd oriole]

also how do you make hypertubes faster (excluding making them go down)

[shrewd raven]

Cant go as fast with blanderunners since u jump more

[primal haven]

add extra entrances

[dense violet]

chain entrances

[minor vale]

have you seen a hypertube cannon?

[shrewd raven]

A LOT of entrances

[shrewd oriole]

yes i just wana know if theres anything else i can do apart from entrances

[primal haven]

each one multiplies your speed by a percent, if you add them periodically you can speed up over time, or chain them really close for a ton of speed quick

just gravity

[shrewd raven]

Like I once made a literal Time Machine with a buddy he went in and my boy evaporated

And he was still alive just going THAT fast

[primal haven]

lol its so much fun watching people get launched

can you trick wildlife into one?

[shrewd raven]

Also the new ADA messages surprised me since I haven’t been on in like a solid half year and I still haven’t beaten the game yet I started a new world yesterday

Don’t think so

It’s not even launching them it’s just putting them in an everlasting loop until you remove an entrance when they want out

I killed a bean earlier and ADA hits me with the “why would you inflict such violence on that poor creature” I swear that bean stared crying while it fell backwards

But it was for the coal factory so it was for a good cause

[minor vale]

we would not have to kill beans if they did not decide walking ontop of my factory was it's habitat.

[shrewd raven]

Fr but the human spiders still FREAK me out

What is the lore behind them tho? Apparently it’s smthn to do with people anyways

[viral tendon]

#screenshots message Was it worth it

[cyan garnet]

Reanimated SAM constructors are a good use of sloops. A single constructor at full overclock w a single sloop can consume 300 SAM and produces 150 RSAM

[minor vale]

I sloop slugs, biomass and alien remains

[viral tendon]

That's 14 pure sam sources with full overclock

[viral tendon]

Btw it's ALL, literally whole thing is powered by one miner mk 2 with 2 power shards

That is kinda insane how low smelters need

This amount of rotors was just for ultra reinforced plates

[neon hollow]

Just downloaded like 171 blueprints to start building a mega road and railway

Also anyone know how to vertical nudge I’m doing pg up but it’s still only moving it forward

[dense violet]

ah, so you're building someone elses factory

[neon hollow]

Nah I just like they road

I gotta tweak it a little so I can add power towers on the side tho

[viral tendon]

@fluid sapphire I have alt screws but it's coal + iron, i'm not doing ts 💔

[neon hollow]

I’m holding ctrl while nudging how do I vertical nudge😭😭

[hard ivy]

Pg up/down